The Free Toast with Suzy Weiss: Friday, May 30th, 2025

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Podcast Summary: The Toast with Jackie & Claudia Oshry

Episode: The Free Toast with Suzy Weiss
Release Date: May 30, 2025
Hosts: Jackie Schimmel & Claudia Oshry
Guest: Susie Weiss, Culture Critic for Free Press

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1. Welcoming Susie Weiss

The episode kicks off with Jackie Schimmel warmly welcoming Susie Weiss, a respected culture critic from the Free Press, highlighting their familial connection through Bari Weiss, Susie's sister. [00:05]

Jackie Schimmel: "It's like Parent Trap. It's like, halle, we're sisters."

2. Inside the Free Press

Susie delves into her role at Free Press, emphasizing its foundation as a family-run entity. She shares anecdotes about the vibrant office culture, including humorous moments like tickling sessions orchestrated by Barry Weiss.

Susie Weiss: "We're literally parallel, but so different because like we're... But it's all the same."

3. Navigating Pop Culture and Media

The conversation shifts to Susie's expertise in pop culture, where she discusses trends such as wellness drops on TikTok and the evolving landscape of internet culture. Jackie praises Susie's insightful writing, particularly her recent essay on Ozempic.

Jackie Schimmel: "I was actually, like, sending quotes to Claudia because it was also... You're a very funny writer."

4. Health & Wellness: The Ozempic Discussion

A significant portion of the episode focuses on the weight-loss drug Ozempic. Susie articulates its impact, likening its potential to the birth control pill in granting women autonomy over their bodies.

Susie Weiss: "I think it's gonna be like Tylenol, where it's like, ah, I feel a little bigger."

Jackie Schimmel: "It's like, go up the mountain if you want, but there's like a car right there if you want to get in it."

5. Celebrity Sports Encounters

The hosts transition to discussing recent Knicks games, highlighting the electrifying atmosphere following their latest victory. They also delve into the public displays of affection by celebrities like Kylie Jenner and Timothy, pondering the sustainability of such relationships.

Jackie Schimmel: "I'm starting to feel like Kylie's a good luck charm for the Knicks."

6. Restaurant Culture and Trends

Susie and Jackie explore the evolving restaurant scene, critiquing the rise of QR menus and ghost kitchens post-COVID. They reminisce about traditional dining experiences and express nostalgia for the tactile joy of restaurant visits.

Susie Weiss: "It just cannot be improved upon."

7. Pop Culture Commentary: Anthony Bourdain and Sydney Sweeney

Susie shares her provocative take on Anthony Bourdain's legacy, sparking a discussion on how his influence is perceived in modern media. They also discuss Sydney Sweeney's collaboration with Dr. Squatch, humorously debating the authenticity of the "bathwater bliss" soap.

Susie Weiss: "It's a lot. Some things maybe are good for longevity, but... I don't like all these things that are like, that's so true."

8. Controversial Celebrity Moments

A heated segment covers Victoria Beckham's alleged spotlight-stealing moment at Brooklyn and Nicola's wedding, with sources claiming Marc Anthony's ill-timed praise disrupted the event. The hosts debate the implications of such actions on personal relationships and public personas.

Susie Weiss: "She's like, I could have Marc Anthony."

9. Release of the Chrisleys from Prison

The episode touches on Julie Chrisley's release from prison, with Susie commenting on her transformed appearance and newfound freedom. They muse over the public's reaction and the potential impact on her public image.

Suzy Weiss: "To get out of the slammer, I wouldn't care what my hair looked like."

10. Queenie and Weenie of the Week

In a lighthearted finale, Jackie and Susie nominate their "Queenie" and "Weenie" of the week. Jackie honors Claudia's recent motherhood, while Susie praises Hailey Bieber's resilience amidst public scrutiny.

Jackie Schimmel: "Claudia has had an incredible Queenie like week giving birth, new motherhood."

Susie Weiss: "My queenie is Hailey. ... She is just really good at being a celebrity and she's really good at giving the people what they do."

11. Closing Remarks

The episode concludes with the hosts expressing mutual appreciation for Susie's insights and promoting her work with Free Press. They encourage listeners to engage with their content and look forward to future collaborations.

Jackie Schimmel: "This is the crossover of the century for three free thinkers everywhere."

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Notable Quotes:

• Jackie Schimmel [01:38]: "I have so many questions about the behind the scenes of Common Sense Free Press."

• Susie Weiss [06:29]: "It's sort of what people liked about old media. Curiosity, independence, questioning."

• Susie Weiss [11:13]: "It's like, you're just giving me words. Sometimes it's adjectives. Sometimes it's like, juicy."

• Jackie Schimmel [22:25]: "What happened to Bruno's teeth?"

• Susie Weiss [43:09]: "We're healing."

This episode offers a rich blend of media insights, pop culture analysis, personal anecdotes, and candid conversations about health and celebrity dynamics. Susie Weiss's expertise complements the hosts' engaging style, providing listeners with a comprehensive and entertaining discussion.

Transcript

[Susie Weiss]

Good morning, girlies.

[Jackie Schimmel]

It's the Toast. It's Jackson Claude, and we're your host. It's your favorite show, the Fast 5 things you need to know. We'll start your day off Swirly. It's the Toast. They sound amazing. Welcome back to the Toast. Happy Fridays. I am joined by a new toast guest who I'm so excited to chat to. As they say on Love island, it is Susie Weiss from the Free Press. Welcome, Susie.

[Susie Weiss]

I'm buzzing.

[Jackie Schimmel]

I'm buzzing for so many reasons. We've never met before.

[Susie Weiss]

No.

[Jackie Schimmel]

But I've been reading your stuff for so long. So you work for the Free Press, which was started by your sister? One of my sisters. One of your sisters. So I have been reading Free Press, and I've been following Barry since she left the New York Times. I'm a Common Sense OG Stan.

[Susie Weiss]

Oh, wow. That's like if you're a.

[Jackie Schimmel]

It's like if you're a brother. I have so many questions about the behind the scenes of Common Sense Free Press. But then I read, like, everything that comes my way. And, of course, the pop culture stuff is, like, my fave.

[Susie Weiss]

Yeah.

[Jackie Schimmel]

And you are the culture reporter for the Free Press.

[Susie Weiss]

I'm the culture critic, I guess. Yes. Film, tv, what's going on in the Zeitgeist?

[Jackie Schimmel]

So I read your stuff all the time.

[Susie Weiss]

This is like Parent Trap. It's like, halle, we're sisters. Annie, we're twins. We are. I didn't.

[Jackie Schimmel]

We have so much in common. So I read your stuff all the time. And it wasn't until Barry reached out to Claudia and I about you doing the toast this week that I realized that you guys are sisters.

[Susie Weiss]

Stage mommy, right?

[Jackie Schimmel]

Susie Weiss and Bari Weiss are sisters. It's shocking stuff that I never put together.

[Susie Weiss]

Well, it's like the Hadid have a new sister as of this week. Did you see that?

[Jackie Schimmel]

But we don't talk about them.

[Susie Weiss]

Okay.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Yeah, like, no, thanks, Number five.

[Susie Weiss]

I don't know.

[Jackie Schimmel]

I don't know who they are. So you have been working at the Free Press for how long?

[Susie Weiss]

Since it started. We started it together.

[Jackie Schimmel]

What were you doing when Barry was at the New York Times and when.

[Susie Weiss]

She left New York Post?

[Jackie Schimmel]

Paper of record paper. Some may say I'm a Post girl. Oh, you are Page Six girl, too.

[Susie Weiss]

Oh, it's so good. You know what they say about Page Six? You don't want it on Page Six.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Don't do.

[Susie Weiss]

Do it.

[Jackie Schimmel]

I know, but, you know, Page Six loves to eclipse that from our show. Thank you to the Team of Page.

[Susie Weiss]

Oh yeah, I saw them with barstool kfc.

[Jackie Schimmel]

So we have to make news today. What can you tell me?

[Susie Weiss]

You had like real like multimedia heavy hitters on. I was watching Lexi. What? And I was like, how long? Recovery face transplant. Like, I was like, this is horrible. It's like people podcasted for like 15 years.

[Jackie Schimmel]

No, I know, but you come from like a part of the media world, right though you are very pop culture, well versed. So I thought you would be such a perfect guest co host for like actual talking out the stories conversation and just my personal interests. Like I want to get to know you. Like how old are you?

[Susie Weiss]

29.

[Jackie Schimmel]

And where do you rank in the Weiss sisters? There's four Weiss sisters.

[Susie Weiss]

Four Weiss girls for four Ashari's.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Yeah.

[Susie Weiss]

I'm the Margot.

[Jackie Schimmel]

I'm four. You're the satchel. You're number four. What number is Barry?

[Susie Weiss]

What do you think?

[Jackie Schimmel]

The oldest. Classic. So what are your other two sisters? Are you two number two? What kind of energy do I give off one?

[Susie Weiss]

I think you're such a one because you're kind of. You're all business. Are you? Bossy ones are bossy.

[Jackie Schimmel]

I'm not bossy actually, but I am a bit control.

[Susie Weiss]

You just know how you like things.

[Jackie Schimmel]

I'm just like, I'm sitting in the corner seething about what's going wrong. But I will not boss people around and tell them about it.

[Susie Weiss]

Okay, So I don't. I feel like one like oldest and youngest.

[Jackie Schimmel]

You.

[Susie Weiss]

You know it when you see it. Middles, they say black sheep, they say peacekeeper.

[Jackie Schimmel]

So like there's really a peacekeeper, but.

[Susie Weiss]

There'S like no like true middle type. Like, you know an oldest when you see her.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Especially when you're not like dead middle. Like a number two out of three when you're two. Like Claudia and I are the middle children, but we don't suffer from middle child syndrome. Because when you have an even number that sort of evens itself out.

[Susie Weiss]

And single, I think having all girls, I'm very pro single sex. Half all girls are all boys. It's inappropriate really to mix.

[Jackie Schimmel]

I agree. Like, what do you do on the hotel? It's inappropriate to go on vacation. Like, what do people do with their mixed gender children in a hotel room? Do you get separate rooms? I actually probably not. But like, that's you.

[Susie Weiss]

Mixers. Mixers at night. By the way, Ruby, such a good name.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Yes. Claudia's baby.

[Susie Weiss]

It's so Ruben.

[Jackie Schimmel]

It's Ruben. He's. That's his Legal name, but like totally. Ruby is the name.

[Susie Weiss]

But I was just like on the way here, I was like, rube tube.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Oh my God, I'm having delicious definitions. Yes.

[Susie Weiss]

Having so much strawberry rhubarb pie for the summer.

[Jackie Schimmel]

There's so much this kid lore with Ruby.

[Susie Weiss]

How is she feeling?

[Jackie Schimmel]

She's doing great. She's still Claudia, you know.

[Susie Weiss]

Perfect. You got nervous.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Well, yeah. And also like it can be really stressful and you don't getting any sleep and like you're just sort of like on the edge and like you can lose your mind in the early days. And like she's doing so great and she has a really good like cadence. Her and Ben, like they're crushing it. I don't want to jinx anything, but they're crushing it. And she's happy and she's well and all is well.

[Susie Weiss]

Wow.

[Jackie Schimmel]

I'm not done talking about you. Okay, so what does sisters two and three do?

[Susie Weiss]

Sisters two and three not in the media biz.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Okay. Which is so funny because these are the questions that people ask me when they just like are getting to know me.

[Susie Weiss]

Yeah.

[Jackie Schimmel]

I'm like, oh, that's interesting that that's what you care about, but okay. But now I'm like, yeah, yeah.

[Susie Weiss]

Are they close? Who's close?

[Jackie Schimmel]

And it's like how you and Susie wind up. And do they also have four letter first names?

[Susie Weiss]

Yeah, no one has a five, but we're all E's.

[Jackie Schimmel]

We're all Z. Barry.

[Susie Weiss]

Well, I'm Suzanne. Suzanne, Barry, Casey, Molly, Susie.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Barry, Casey, Molly, Susie. Where'd you guys grow up?

[Susie Weiss]

Pittsburgh.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Didn't know that either.

[Susie Weiss]

I know. Great time.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Do people.

[Susie Weiss]

Yeah. I don't know. I love being one of four girls. I'm curious because we also work with.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Our siblings and I'm obsessed.

[Susie Weiss]

I'm obsessed with it. But like a startup family business is its own beast.

[Jackie Schimmel]

We're literally parallel, but so different because like we're. But it's all the same.

[Susie Weiss]

I should be in your guys business because.

[Jackie Schimmel]

And I should be working with Barry.

[Susie Weiss]

You honestly, you should be working with Barry because Barry will be like, well, what do you think of the Iran deal? And I'm like, but what do you think of the sugar bear hair deal? Should James Charles have accepted it? And we're like, no, there's like no middle ground there. But we make it work. And my sister in law is also Barry's wife.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Your sister in law? Oh, Nelly. Nellie. And she also works.

[Susie Weiss]

She's a co founder of the Free Press.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Yes, yes.

[Susie Weiss]

And she does the TGIF newsletter. It's amazing.

[Jackie Schimmel]

It just came through this morning. It's great stuff. So if you're not a subscriber to the Free Press, definitely go and do that. Like, it's. It's. What do they say? It's like a cringy thing that they say in media, but it actually applies well, it's like a disruptor.

[Susie Weiss]

No.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Oh, also that. But it's like you get your cereal with your broccoli. Like, it's like both the healthy. Like the meaty stuff that you need with a sprinkle, like sugar on top.

[Susie Weiss]

Yeah. I would say it's. It's what you need to know. It's sort of what people liked about old media. Curiosity, independence, questioning. Questioning. Kind of covering a really wide breadth of stories. But it's voicey. It doesn't pretend the Internet doesn't exist. We have a lot of great writers and new columnists now, and it's so much fun.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Yeah.

[Susie Weiss]

The fp.com.

[Jackie Schimmel]

The fp.com, also. Kat Rosenfeld is a columnist, right?

[Susie Weiss]

Oh, she's brilliant.

[Jackie Schimmel]

And she's a writer. She writes books. Yeah. Because I read one of her books.

[Susie Weiss]

Yes.

[Jackie Schimmel]

And then I was like, is this the same person? Yeah. I'm gonna get all the behind the scenes tea about the Free Press. Like, what's the office culture like?

[Susie Weiss]

The office was. Oh, my God. Well, it's. Because it's a family business. Like, the other week I go, barry, please stop tickling me at work. And like our editorial system was like, oh, God. Like, we were on this huge zoom meeting once because we also do these big debates. We did. Was the sexual revolution a mistake? Like all these kind of like big events and.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Which is what we're here to discuss today.

[Susie Weiss]

Yeah, exactly.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Kidding. Just kidding. Don't be your pants. It's gonna be okay.

[Susie Weiss]

And we're in this big zoom, and it's like these kind of meaty producers and it' really serious and cameramen. And Barry goes, okay, you should get there Thursday, Suze. It's fine. If you get there Friday. Don't forget your undies. Like a 20 person meeting.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Would you have forgotten your undies?

[Susie Weiss]

Yeah, like, she does need to tell me, so I can't really get mad.

[Jackie Schimmel]

That's really funny because Claudia and I work together, but it's really. We have a very small team. Like, we're very bare bones. So it's not like we're have a rest of like an office culture and like, where we have to be like, Buttoned up in certain scenarios and then unbuttoned in others. But that's a funny dynamic.

[Susie Weiss]

Yeah, because we're, like, talking about work or business or, you know, hiring someone. Then it's like, dad is so annoying. Like, oh, my God. And then we're like, we're kids again. You know what I mean? And, like, we have our own language. Like, you and Claudia have our own. Your own language. It's fun.

[Jackie Schimmel]

What were you doing at the New York Post when you worked there?

[Susie Weiss]

I was doing features. So culture. Culture coverage.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Like, it was a lot of, like.

[Susie Weiss]

Internet culture, dating, mating, relating losers, jackasses, assholes. Like that. Trends. I covered. Like, people only eating meat. I covered. Remember those Ray Wellness drops that were on TikTok that girls were obsessed with?

[Jackie Schimmel]

TikTok.

[Susie Weiss]

Oh, okay. They were these, like. They were wellness drops, and really they were just a laxative to make you skinnier. But of course, they were, like, greenwashed to be like, these. These are so good for longevity and immune boosting. And it's like, how do you know they're good for longevity? It's like, you don't know if you're dead yet, you know? Like, I don't like all these things that are like, that's so true. Good for longevity. It's like, well, who's to say, babe? Like, I think you have to wait it out.

[Jackie Schimmel]

So true. Okay, I'll stop making that claim.

[Susie Weiss]

But it's a lot. Some things maybe are good for longevity, but. Yeah, so I was covering all sorts of stuff, and then Barry left. The New York Times called me up and said, do you want to do this? And if Barry called me and said, like, we're starting a floral business or. I don't know if you feel this way about Claudia. Like, we're starting a bakery. Like, are we doing it? It's like, yeah, where's my apron? Like, of course, like, sort of whatever it would have been, I would have been happy to do.

[Jackie Schimmel]

No, I totally agree. Did you always see yourselves eventually working together, considering you were both working in media, or you were just sort of, like, unparalleled?

[Susie Weiss]

She's 12 years older than me, so I was just like, she's doing her own thing. And I'm like, you know, finding someone who lost 80 pounds on leading McDonald's for the new York Post. And then once you do it, and they're like, find someone who lost 100.

[Jackie Schimmel]

You also wrote something about Ozemp, like, weeks ago.

[Susie Weiss]

Yes, I did.

[Jackie Schimmel]

I was actually, like, sending quotes to Claudia because it was also You're a very funny writer, so that's why you're such a great writer. Like, I actually laugh out loud. It was a really good piece. And you were talking about, like, women who are just a couple, like, 10, 15 pounds overweight, who you wouldn't typically be a candidate for, like, a weight loss medication, but it's changed their lives, like, Right. Just like that thing that's always been, like, niggling at them is gone.

[Susie Weiss]

Yes. And it's like, if you can pay a dollar amount. I always think about it, and that's.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Gonna be me one day. I just want everyone to know, like, that will be me.

[Susie Weiss]

Well, I think that will be me.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Using Ozem in a while.

[Susie Weiss]

Oh, Jackie o o o o zemp.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Put me in coach.

[Susie Weiss]

Oh, my God.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Like, when I read that article, I was enjoying it, but I was also extremely jealous because I'm like, this sounds wonderful.

[Susie Weiss]

Well, it's gonna be. It's gonna. It's coming out as a pill in early 2025. And then I think it's almost gonna be like Tylenol, where it's like, ah, I feel a little bigger. Yeah, I feel a little pill. It's a miracle.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Yeah.

[Susie Weiss]

And I think it's sort of similar to the birth control pill that sort of allowed women to act more like men in a way. I get to decide when I have my kid. I get to focus on my career. I get to do all this stuff. I mean, we all know how men lose weight. They eat a little less tortilla chips.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Yeah.

[Susie Weiss]

Three less. And they lose £40. Like, it's unbelievable. A woman. It's just harder to lose weight. And it's just one of those big dividers. And I think we're about. I mean, I kind of went. We're about to see a revolution in this space.

[Jackie Schimmel]

No, I think that you said that in your piece, and it's such a good analogy. Like, it is like the birth control pill. It gives you, like, autonomy over when you're going to lose weight, when you're. Especially as you're having children. And it's like, of course there's a million things to consider. The thought of your body changing is not the greatest feeling, but it's like knowing that at the end of the journey, there's going to be something that will help you feel like yourself again. Like, that kind of takes the pressure off a little bit.

[Susie Weiss]

Or like. Yeah, exactly. Like, go up the mountain if you want, but there's like a car right there if you want to get into it. And it's like, okay, I'm out. Maybe I'll go up the mountain. But if I want to get in the car, I'm going to get in the car.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Yeah, it's.

[Susie Weiss]

Yeah. I think I thought about when I was writing that essay, like, how many millions of Weight Watchers points have been counted in my lifetime. Like, how many have you ever been overweight? I've been at my heaviest. I mean, we're short. How tall are you?

[Jackie Schimmel]

A five one. And I agree. Every pound, it's like, yeah, I was overweight that time. I gained.

[Susie Weiss]

No, it's like, you have one meal and you're like, I need to go to an inpatient center.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Literally. It's like when you're so short. Like, yesterday, I'm overweight, today I'm bmi. Correct. Like, it's the difference of pounds.

[Susie Weiss]

It's unbelievable. I mean, I also got a nose job.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Oh, okay.

[Susie Weiss]

Like, what would have been like, 10 years ago now? And it really works. It's like, you don't think about that thing that really bothered you anymore. And of course, I'd love to be, like, transcendent over my body and one with Mother Gaia and Mother Earth and never give a second thought.

[Jackie Schimmel]

I'll be that way when I'm skinny.

[Susie Weiss]

Yeah. Yeah, exactly. Me too. When the dress fits and I can wear whatever I want and not think about my arms. Yeah. I'm not going to be worried that I'll be one with Mother Earth. Exactly.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Yeah.

[Susie Weiss]

Oh, my God. That's really funny.

[Jackie Schimmel]

So have you ever been overweight or. It's just, like, feeling that way.

[Susie Weiss]

It's really an internal thing. I've never been, like, diabetic or pre. Diabetic.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Yeah.

[Susie Weiss]

I've probably been, like, big for our category.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Yeah.

[Susie Weiss]

Of 5:2, because I think, what are we supposed to be, like, £25?

[Jackie Schimmel]

Like 100. Like, 5:2 is £110.

[Susie Weiss]

Well, I remember. Well, how old was. Remember when Courtney talked about she was like, £90 or something? But, like, she. She looked great.

[Jackie Schimmel]

She looks.

[Susie Weiss]

She always.

[Jackie Schimmel]

And she's also like, she's 5:1. She's super.

[Susie Weiss]

They're all really short.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Yeah. No, it's like, at five foot, you're supposed to be 100 pounds and then it's like five pound pounds per inch after that. It's just not gonna work for me.

[Susie Weiss]

Without Ozempic or wegovia or any of it.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm not, like, brand specific. I'll take whatever I can get my hands on.

[Susie Weiss]

You've Never taken it?

[Jackie Schimmel]

No. It, it came around when I was pregnant with my first. And then, like, my philosophy is like, I, I don't really want to take it until I'm done having kids. If I can help. Yeah, that. Yeah. So that's sort of like, where I'm at. We'll see.

[Susie Weiss]

Yeah. I, I. It's funny, the response to the essay. There was a lot of people who were like, it just. It's not allowed to be this easy. Like, it shouldn't. Like, there's something almost spiritually wrong with getting a quick fix. And it almost felt like people, like, when TV came out to be like, I'll stick with my radio, thanks.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Yeah.

[Susie Weiss]

Sort of, like, angry that they're not going to get. That they had to do the hard thing.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Yeah.

[Susie Weiss]

I don't know. We'll see. There's all these crazy studies coming out. Tim, did you know Tim Dillon? He has this amazing joke because, you know, Ozempic makes you stop gambling. It makes you less prone to shopping addiction. You're less of an addict. It's like, turning everyone into, like, a Norwegian. It's like we're literally all gonna be walking around in like, like, blonde with, like, ski gear on. But if everything is true about this drug, like, it may be a miracle drug. Cut to seven months later. Like, we're all dying on, like, the side of the road. But we'll see.

[Jackie Schimmel]

We'll see. Or it could be the key to longevity.

[Susie Weiss]

Yeah, exactly. The key to, like, the real. What was it? Blue. Blue zone.

[Jackie Schimmel]

What's that? Is that that guy?

[Susie Weiss]

The blue zones were, like, the places in the Mediterranean where if you ate like them, you would live to 100 blue zones where people were. Places where people left to 100. I do think it was debunked.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Oh, God. Where'd you go to college?

[Susie Weiss]

University of Michigan.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Nice.

[Susie Weiss]

Where go blue? Columbia Classic.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Yeah, I probably knew that.

[Susie Weiss]

Yeah.

[Jackie Schimmel]

That's why she's big.

[Susie Weiss]

That's why she is who she is. She's so big mad.

[Jackie Schimmel]

She's big mad. And she should be. Well, I went to Colgate, and I look like a proud Colgate alum today in my maroon. This is Colgate colors, but this is the bar.

[Susie Weiss]

What is the bar?

[Jackie Schimmel]

It's a brand started by an influencer. Bridget. Her handle is at Bridget. I don't know if anyone knows her last name, but she's, like, such a queen. If you don't follow her, you totally should. And these sweatshirts, like, just took over the world. This isn't your first time Seeing one in person. It's authentic.

[Susie Weiss]

Can I touch it?

[Jackie Schimmel]

Yeah, no, that's the sweatshirt. But it's really. Well, I've washed this one a million times. But, like, before you wash them, they're so oversized, like, in the exact way that you wanted oversized sweatshirt to be. And that's why it was a bar revolution.

[Susie Weiss]

Is it bar drinking bar or protein bar?

[Jackie Schimmel]

Neither.

[Susie Weiss]

Or setting the bar.

[Jackie Schimmel]

It's like setting the bar.

[Susie Weiss]

Oh, I love that. Okay, that's really good. I just. Do you know, David, protein bars?

[Jackie Schimmel]

Yes. They're a sponsor. Not today, but.

[Susie Weiss]

Oh, my God, they just raised a huge amount of money.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Go, David. You're welcome, David.

[Susie Weiss]

Might be the queenie, Dave.

[Jackie Schimmel]

It might be.

[Susie Weiss]

Might be the queenie.

[Jackie Schimmel]

We're gonna do queenie. And we need today because it's fried dairies, and that's what we do on Friday, so you've come prepared. And also, another fun fact about you is that you're a swirly. Like, you're a big toaster.

[Susie Weiss]

I'm a big toaster. Jackie, I have to tell you, there were war rooms at the Free Press HQ preparing for this today.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Oh, really?

[Susie Weiss]

Like, like, go pargy. And he dropped, like, the whole thing. And they're like. They're like, drilling me. And I'm like, oh, my God. And everyone in my life is a toaster. So I would do this thing where I'll go up to someone, I'll be like, have you heard of this podcast? Like, the Toast? Like, obviously, I know they heard of it. And they go, oh, my God. I go, I'm hosting this podcast.

[Jackie Schimmel]

I don't know.

[Susie Weiss]

They go, oh, you see the toast? And it's like, the amount of people were like, shout me out, shout me out, shout me out. And it's like, hello, everyone who was at Julie's wedding this weekend. It was such a beautiful wedding. My best friend got married.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Julie's wedding. Where did she get married?

[Susie Weiss]

In Pittsburgh. My best friend's wedding.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Oh, fun.

[Susie Weiss]

Which is a very. Like your sister having a baby. It's this very heavy, fraught, but amazing thing.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Yeah.

[Susie Weiss]

Because you're worried, like, oh, my God, they're gonna evaporate into the ether. But then, oh, my God, they're just. They're here, but they're just kind of better.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Yeah. No, it's like, it's so the same. And now they're not, like, this stressful bitch planning a wedding. They're just like your friend that you have back and who's enjoying her life.

[Susie Weiss]

I know, but it's Hard for me. I don't know what to do during the wedding because there's like, you probably know how to handle this around the.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Bride where it's like, celebrity.

[Susie Weiss]

Celebrity.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Yeah.

[Susie Weiss]

And it's like, I want to be able to talk to my friend, but like, I don't want to say the wrong thing. And I always say the wrong thing. Like at the welcome drinks, we were watching the Knicks game, and then the Knicks lost. And then I turned to my best friend Julia. I go, would have been way better than the Knicks won. And it's like, yeah, but who are.

[Jackie Schimmel]

The Knicks are playing? The Pacers. Where do they hail from?

[Susie Weiss]

Oh, where do the Pacers hail from?

[Jackie Schimmel]

I thought they were from your state. Philly, Pennsylvania. Indiana.

[Susie Weiss]

Indiana. That's what I was gonna say.

[Jackie Schimmel]

This whole time I thought they've been going back and forth like, Philadelphia Pacers, my favorite team. Well, we have some Knicks news. We have some sports news.

[Susie Weiss]

Great.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Which will be great. And let's get into the story, shall we? Without further ado to do. To do. It is time for the Fast 5 stories that you do need to know. But I do need to let you know that today's episode is brought to you by Smart Mouth. Smart Mouth is the only mouthwash scientifically to eliminate and prevent bad breath for 24 hours with just two rinses a day. Par delicious. If you are someone who wants to combat bad breath at every turn.

[Susie Weiss]

Who doesn't?

[Jackie Schimmel]

Well, that's the thing. That's the thing. Smart meth was developed by a dentist, Dr. Cohen, Claudia's dream man. He spent years researching the cause of bad breath, which led to the development of Smart Mouth's patented zinc ion technology. He literally wrote the book on bad breath as the author of the halitosis section in the medical edition of the encyclopedia. This always cracks me up in it. Claudia too, because like she literally needs to give this man a kiss on his mouth. And hopefully yes, but like also, he wrote the book on halitosis.

[Susie Weiss]

He wrote the book.

[Jackie Schimmel]

She is just obsessed with combating bad breath and her and Dr. Cohen together are going to make it happen. Especially once we let you know that Smart Mouth is here. It prevents bad breath 12 times longer than the leading brand. It it had just upgraded their new bottles so now with individual snap top closures, it's easier than ever to open and use. No more assembly needed. Never have bad breath again. Find Smart Mouth at Walgreens, Walmart and Amazon or visit www.smart smartmouth.com toast to snag a special discount on your next smart mouth purchase. That's www.smash a r t m o u t h.com toast, which is t o a s dash t. Don't miss out on 24 hour fresh breath. Your mouth will thank you. Thank you, smart mouth.

[Susie Weiss]

Thank you Dr. Cohen for the important.

[Jackie Schimmel]

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[Susie Weiss]

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[Jackie Schimmel]

The ERA High Rise. The ERA High Rise shorts. These just launched and they're so good. They're high rise fave, lightweight, love, super flattering. Thanks. They've basically replaced every other pair of shorts I own. I can wear them to walk, run errands, exist, you know, playground, bend over. A lot of that as a mom. That's, that's. They're that versatile. Also, Roback just dropped a brand new color called Birdie Blue in the Sydney Squirt. An everyday active dress. I love a squirt. It's still one of my favorites. It's sporty, flattering, has built in shorts with pockets. Yes, please. Also, they have their everyday active dress. So if you need active cute clothes, you're running around, you don't want to be.

[Susie Weiss]

What's it, the turdy blue color? What's they thought? They said Birdie Blue, but they really, really need to rename. Rename it.

[Jackie Schimmel]

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[Susie Weiss]

What happened to Bruno's teeth?

[Jackie Schimmel]

Bruno went in for a routine teeth cleaning because they say that your dog should do that. They have to, like, go put under anesthetic and they're like, if you don't do it, like, you have to do it. Apparently it's like, really bad. He had, like, all this tar. Okay, so just we'll do it once so they'll stop telling us to do it. And then they're like, he has like 14 teeth that are, like, dead and you need to take them out.

[Susie Weiss]

Isn't that all of the tea?

[Jackie Schimmel]

How many? Well, apparently they have 50 something, but they wanted to remove 14 teeth. I'm like, okay, well, what if I don't? And they're like, well, he'll die. You know, they're just making it sound so, like, I had to decide in that moment while he was still under anesthetic. And I'm like, okay. And they're like, and that'll be $6,000. Thanks, Bruno. Thanks, Bruno. But Bruno's doing great, actually, and his teeth are beautiful. But yeah, pet insurance, because you just never know what's going to happen. Our first story, some sports news. Knicks game six last night.

[Susie Weiss]

They won and they won. And you can feel it in the air. It's just electric.

[Jackie Schimmel]

The thing is, I couldn't feel it in the air. Usually I know if they won or didn't win based on, like, when I wake up in the morning, if, like, Ben's offer is, like, posted, like, stories, if he's gone quiet, they've lost, like, yeah. And so I never have to, like, seek out if they've won or not. It just finds me. But this morning I like, had to go to New York Post sports. Like, did they win? And I felt like. And they did. But I feel like no one was making a big deal out of it. Even though it was like a do or Die game.

[Susie Weiss]

Well, yeah, because they lost the last two. So I think they were like, pull this one out.

[Jackie Schimmel]

If they lost this one, they're out.

[Susie Weiss]

But they didn't lose it, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Jackie Schimmel]

So they're back in the game.

[Susie Weiss]

Way more excited. I just saw Ben Stiller tweeting about it. Cause he's like a die hard Knicks fan. Yeah, it was amazing. I love Celebrity Row. I love the outfits.

[Jackie Schimmel]

So the story for us is that Kylie and Timothy went to the game and passionately made out on the sidelines. I saw it from all angles. Like, I seriously love these two. What are your thoughts on them?

[Susie Weiss]

Together forever. But I will add that I always think every couple's together forever. Like, I'm shocked whenever anyone the same way. Like, I'm like, it's done. Like, put a fork in it. It's so good. I think they're an amazing couple. I think he's likely the dad that stepped up. And I'm so happy for her. I think she looks gorgeous.

[Jackie Schimmel]

I agree. She's just a joy to watch. Like, even. She just posted like a makeup video yesterday of her doing her makeup. Like, it's nothing revolutionary. I could watch it on repeat. She's just like, she's so confident. She's so beautiful, happy, like moisturized in her lane. She's just like, I'm obsessed with her. And I was happy to see them again because they'd taken a little break from games, but also they were playing in, I guess, Indiana. And this would have been bad if they lost, but I'm starting to feel like Kylie's a good luck charm for the Knicks. Just saying.

[Susie Weiss]

Do you predict that there's going to be a royal wedding?

[Jackie Schimmel]

No.

[Susie Weiss]

Between them?

[Jackie Schimmel]

No.

[Susie Weiss]

You don't think they're ever gonna get married?

[Jackie Schimmel]

No, I think, like, I don't.

[Susie Weiss]

Yeah, I don't think she's a wedding person.

[Jackie Schimmel]

It's like, just not worth it. And I think sooner they will have a baby. I'm waiting for. I'm on like, baby alert because she wants a lot of kids and this is her guy. Like, I think that they're gonna. But I think she's just having so much fun and she's just like, so snatched. And it's like, it's hard to let that go.

[Susie Weiss]

Oh, my God. You know, I feel for her.

[Jackie Schimmel]

I feel for her that at some point she's gonna have to, like, you know, say goodbye to that for temporarily. So I feel like she's just putting it off, but I do think that's imminent.

[Susie Weiss]

I love these women who. It's like, they're much wealthier than the men. They're with Haley Road Bieber now. It's like, don't count them out.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Yeah.

[Susie Weiss]

Like, who can forget when, like, the Kardashians started going to the Met Gala and it was like, oh, my God, like, there goes the neighborhood a little bit. But now it's like, oh, anyone who's accompanying them is lucky for it.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Yeah.

[Susie Weiss]

And Timothy's such a. Such a dreamboat. So charming.

[Jackie Schimmel]

I didn't. Never thought so before, but now I'm totally on the Timothy bandwagon. Like, I get it. Everyone loves him. And also, he is, like, this great artist, but he also has swagger. Like, he's very cool. I think he's probably a great guy all around.

[Susie Weiss]

I saw a New York Post article about how people are trying to get. Men are trying to get Timothy's body, and he's, like, spawning a different manorexia.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Oh, I don't like that.

[Susie Weiss]

Because he's so, like, kind of thin and gangly.

[Jackie Schimmel]

I don't like that.

[Susie Weiss]

I don't like that. But it's like, let them have a taste for a second.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Yeah. I'm, like, trying to stay skinny. That's so true. But just in terms of, like, what I would want people to look like, like. No, thank. Like, all the skinny guys. No, no, no, no, no.

[Susie Weiss]

Yeah, this, like, Pete Davidson look.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Yeah, Not. Not for me.

[Susie Weiss]

No.

[Jackie Schimmel]

But I do like your perspective on it. Like, let them try.

[Susie Weiss]

Yeah, yeah, let them try for a second.

[Jackie Schimmel]

That them have to exercise willpower and be miserable. Go off.

[Susie Weiss]

My perspective on. Do they have, like, a compound name?

[Jackie Schimmel]

Not one that everyone's using, but you could do Kimothay. Yeah.

[Susie Weiss]

Sounds like Kim, though.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Or Tyler. I love Tyler, but no one's calling them anything. I feel like everybody just is sort of rooting against them except for you and I don't. You know what I mean? Like, why aren't. Why don't they have a couple name?

[Susie Weiss]

Yeah, because I ship them also. They're, like, the only people not falling apart.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Yeah.

[Susie Weiss]

Like, they're presenting a united front. They're in love.

[Jackie Schimmel]

No. And, like, they're saying, so hot and heavy. And they've been this way for two Years, like, they're still making out courtside, even though they probably not shouldn't. But, like, that's just not what you do when you're public. Figure, like, to be so, like. But they just can't keep their hands off each other.

[Susie Weiss]

Oh, my God. They're obsessed with each other.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Yeah. So it's like, imagine what they do in private. I. Jackie cut my pearls.

[Susie Weiss]

Yes.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Yeah.

[Susie Weiss]

What they do in private, I don't know. I mean, I've thought about it, obviously.

[Jackie Schimmel]

But, no, I'm just, like. That's just how I think of it. Like, they literally can't stop kissing. Even though, like, most people, like, act cool in that situation, I think they try their best.

[Susie Weiss]

I always wonder, like, how much time they're spending together, because it's like, they both seem so busy.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Yeah. Well, I think they've really ingrained themselves into each other's lives. Like, I do believe she has a place here in New York. And, like, he works out of here a lot.

[Susie Weiss]

Yeah.

[Jackie Schimmel]

And then he just bought a place in Beverly Hills. His mom told us that.

[Susie Weiss]

Wow.

[Jackie Schimmel]

So I really. I think it's like, if you want to, you will.

[Susie Weiss]

Yeah. If you wanted to, he will. That is really the lesson of that relationship.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Blame things on scheduling issues. But, like, I'm sorry. If you want to be around this person, you will be around them, no question.

[Susie Weiss]

And I also think it's a great example of, like, a different sort of family structure where it's like, you had children with someone, it didn't work out. That doesn't mean your life's over.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Yeah.

[Susie Weiss]

Like, you can have another, like, run at it and still have, like, a sort of, like, youthful, like, sparkly love, which I really. Which I really like for them.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Me, too. Me, too. And I'm happy for the negs. I'm happy for Ben Softer in the Brunson Boy.

[Susie Weiss]

So happy for the. I love also her courtside style.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Oh, yeah.

[Susie Weiss]

It's very, like, very cool. Yes.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Very, very cool with the hat. And it's just like, he.

[Susie Weiss]

He could maybe use a little work. I think he's maybe gone a little overboard.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Yeah. But he's enjoying this new Persona. Like, no one's ever thought he's this cool before. Everyone, like, respects him and, like, knows he's a great actor, but, like, this has given him so much street cred, like, being the face of the Knicks, like, every. He. I don't know. It just happened overnight. But I think he's really enjoying being, like, the Knicks mascot.

[Susie Weiss]

No question. He's the Knicks mascot. And I wish him all the best.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Yeah. And he deserves it. He's put in a lot of work of just being like the nerdy Art who's playing next. Do we know he's doing that Gwyneth Paltrow movie that they were making out in?

[Susie Weiss]

Oh, yeah, the softie movie. She gave really funny quotes about that.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Yeah, I might see that now that I want to support Timothy and I love Gwyneth.

[Susie Weiss]

We love Gwyneth. In this house we stand. We believe science. And we. And we Stan Gwyneth Paltrow, we believe in science. Whatever. Whatever it says. I don't know what it says.

[Jackie Schimmel]

That's so funny. Some more big New York news is that Taylor Swift is breaking cover. Going out for dinner in New York City last night. She went to her go to Italian restaurant Via Corrotto, which isn't like major news, but it is major that she's like, stepping out again. So she's been low key with Travis.

[Susie Weiss]

Yes.

[Jackie Schimmel]

For the last few months since the Super Bowl. He's working on his fitness. He's living down in Florida.

[Susie Weiss]

Does he have long hair now? There's like a crazy haircut. There's flow. There's flow going on. There's flow, sure.

[Jackie Schimmel]

And they have been seen, like, having dinner in Palm beach and stuff, but all very low key. And now she, like, stepped out, did the thing. New York City, all dressed up.

[Susie Weiss]

I love how proudly basic she is.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Yeah.

[Susie Weiss]

It's like I'm going to Via Carota. I'm getting the Cacio e Pepe. I'm having a Negroni, I'm wearing my sweater and I'm leaving. You know what I mean? Like, there's something so amazing, like she doesn't seek out the like, deep cut, cool thing.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Yeah.

[Susie Weiss]

And she's like a queen for that, I think.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Yeah. That she's not going to like. It is nice that she goes to, like, the restaurants that are popular at the moment, like, that everyone wants to go to.

[Susie Weiss]

They weren't. They were popular five years ago.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Oh, yeah. No, but like, what was the other one? Last fall it was like corner store. I don't. I'm not big in the restaurant scene. Are you?

[Susie Weiss]

No, I'm not big in the restaurant scene. I think food culture has gone a little broken and like, broken our brains a little bit. And I think people sort of like treat restaurants like, you gotta try the must have. Everything's must have. It's like their hair's on fire about a taco. And it's like everyone needs to take a deep breath on this one.

[Jackie Schimmel]

You also just wrote something about, like, Anthony Bourdain.

[Susie Weiss]

Girlies, I am getting, like, ravaged online.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Are you getting backlash is.

[Susie Weiss]

Or whatever? Yes, we both. I mean, I was canceled first when I was 17. Now I'm being canceled again.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Like, I'm old hat at this as a cancellation.

[Susie Weiss]

Oh, my God. Canceled queen. But I'm. I'm like. They've gotten much more sophisticated, the trolls. So I'm getting messages like, I know a doctor who could fix that. And I'm like, fix what? Like, it's so mean. It's like. It's like, why are teeth like that? And it's like, oh, no.

[Jackie Schimmel]

But it's so funny because up until today, I didn't even know what you looked like. And I'm a fan, so where are they finding all, like, you're not like, a. Like, I think your Instagram is private.

[Susie Weiss]

My Instagram's private, but it's like, it's my name. People can find it.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Yeah.

[Susie Weiss]

And then we did this. Like, I wrote about Anthony Bourdain and how. I think.

[Jackie Schimmel]

So what was the thesis? Just share with the class.

[Susie Weiss]

The thesis about the Anthony Bourdain take was that, like, perhaps you can, like, have a pizza without having an existential crisis. And, like, even though Anthony Bourdain was really good at what he did, he did not invent being lonely and getting drunk at the same time. And, like, you know, a meal isn't, like, necessarily authentic just because you left to, like, go in a tunnel and army crawl to get there. And I really hit a nerve. I really hit a nerve with this one. I sort of thought. I assumed I would. Cause he's a saint.

[Jackie Schimmel]

He is a saint. But I feel like what you wrote wasn't really a referendum on Andy Bourdain himself, just the way that people talk about and, like, revere him. It was about, like, the. The fanboys and girls, even though it's mostly boys. Not what he did. Because he did cool stuff.

[Susie Weiss]

Yeah, he did his thing. He worked the whole way. He got tattooed on air.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Yeah. He.

[Susie Weiss]

You know, he had drinks with the president. That was like, the whole thing when he went to Vietnam, and it was just like, you know what? Enough. It's like. It's like, get new heroes. I don't know. I mean, it's.

[Jackie Schimmel]

I mean, more so like you're criticizing the people. Like, the way that people engage with him posthumously and how they engage with food.

[Susie Weiss]

I think the bear is to blame for this, too. It's like, you can make a sandwich having a personality disorder. You don't have to, like, like, like freak out. Like, just have a burger, enjoy yourself. I love how Ben Safer eats.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Yeah.

[Susie Weiss]

I think it just. It's. He's having fun. He's cooking food for Claudia. This all came. Cause Stanley Tucci has that new show.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Okay. Yeah. He's the new Anthony Bourdain.

[Susie Weiss]

They say yes, but I think he's sort of like a. A healthier version, maybe a mentally healthier version.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Mentally healthier.

[Susie Weiss]

It's horrible. I know I'm gonna get, like, wrecked again.

[Jackie Schimmel]

And it's like, I don't have any, like, like, stake in this. Like, I'm not. I don't. I'm not super familiar with Anthony. I don't care about. With Tony. I don't care so much, like, about food and food culture. Like, I. I like to cook, and I'm learning and I'm. I do. Like, I'm. I'm not a part of this conversation. So, like, I feel like a totally unbiased sounding board. And what you're saying to me sounds, like, totally innocuous.

[Susie Weiss]

Yeah. No. No shade to him. But I think the legacy combined with the bear, combined with a few other things of sort of like, it's like, are you a rock star or do you work in the back of a kitchen? Like, I don't know. Like, that's just. I'm just noticing things. I'm just noticing. Yeah, but how do we get on this subject?

[Jackie Schimmel]

Well, we were talking about restaurants.

[Susie Weiss]

So, like, restaurants in Via Coroda.

[Jackie Schimmel]

What are your favorite restaurants in the city where they do things in a mentally healthy way?

[Susie Weiss]

Well, it's funny. All. Every. I feel like every time you go to a restaurant you like, I. I'll look at the menu and, like, the more I look at it, the less I understand it. It's like frond. Like, moral guanciale. And I'm like, what is it? Is it pasta? Like, it's like, you're just giving me words. Sometimes it's adjectives. Sometimes it's like, juicy. Like frond. Yeah.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Like leaf.

[Susie Weiss]

And I'm like. I went to this restaurant in. I think it was Bed Stuy called Daphne's last night. Oh, it was really great.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Cute name.

[Susie Weiss]

Yes. And they did like, a tiramisu, but instead of ladyfingers, there was croissant, which I loved, because who likes a ladyfinger? It tastes Dale.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Yeah, totally. Ew.

[Susie Weiss]

But via Carota is great too.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Yeah. I don't know if I'VE ever been to Via Caroto. I'm an uptown girl when I was here, you know, I'm a seraphina girl.

[Susie Weiss]

Oh, love, love.

[Jackie Schimmel]

I'm tried and true.

[Susie Weiss]

That's really. What do you get there?

[Jackie Schimmel]

Little Pen made pomodoro pannella, vodka and margherita pizza and the porta tripo salad. Like, we keep it simple.

[Susie Weiss]

They do. I'm thinking of Sarah Beth's. They do the soft scrambled egg that people do.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Brunch. That's great for brunch.

[Susie Weiss]

Yes.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Yeah, yeah. And that's a classic. That's, like, something that I would like as well.

[Susie Weiss]

You're an order in or a maker. You're a make yourself.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Well, if. What? Like, being in the city last few weeks, I'm literally ordering breakfast, lunch, and dinner. Like, obviously, I'm not cooking here, but at home. Like, when I'm in my own environment, I prefer, like, I. I do prefer not ordering in. I would rather go to a restaurant. I just feel like the way delivery comes, it's just not appetizing.

[Susie Weiss]

Well, now that we're on the subject of restaurants, I have to say, like, the restaurant's the perfect thing. Like, you come in, they seat you, they bring you the menus, you order, like, it cannot be improved upon. And now I feel like you go to restaurants and it's like, have you been with us before? And it's like, no. And it's like, let me tell you how this works. It's a new concept where it's like 14 things off the first page and like, 30 things off the second page. And then here's a buzzer, and you have to get it yourself. You actually have to cook it yourself. And I'm a little bit like, this was a perfect thing. We don't need over my.

[Jackie Schimmel]

I would blame one Covid, you know, because all people did forget QR menus. QR menus.

[Susie Weiss]

Rather not eat.

[Jackie Schimmel]

And also, like, no more room service. Like, or here you could. Your food comes not on a tray, on the silver.

[Susie Weiss]

It's like, one of life's great pleasures.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Yeah. It now comes, like, in a brown bag. And it's actually from down the street. So, like, they just did blame Fauci. And then also, I do think people just want to keep reinventing the wheel. And I also think that they kind of have to. I saw, I don't know, a statistic. I don't know if it was right or wrong that it was, like, pretty much 80 of, like, food. Restaurant business comes from delivery now. So I feel like they want to get people back in the restaurant. Or do they? Maybe delivery is actually cheaper overhead. And then you get, like, ghost kitchens.

[Susie Weiss]

Yeah.

[Jackie Schimmel]

To the ghost kitchen.

[Susie Weiss]

Yeah. Stealth mode.

[Jackie Schimmel]

I love a ghost kitchen. I used to have a favorite one, but I think it closed.

[Susie Weiss]

A favorite ghost kitchen.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Like, one.

[Susie Weiss]

It just felt like home.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Like a place that I always ordered from. And it's like, I like that their focus is delivery. When I'm getting delivery, I want it to be optimized for delivery. Like, you ever order delivery from Nobu? Yucky.

[Susie Weiss]

Yeah, I wouldn't say that.

[Jackie Schimmel]

McDonald's, like, because it's optimized for delivery.

[Susie Weiss]

No question. I mean, pasta, you really can't get delivered, I don't think.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Steamy and sweaty.

[Susie Weiss]

Yeah, exactly.

[Jackie Schimmel]

So I just think that's something you need to solve for.

[Susie Weiss]

Yeah. There is an element of, like, you'll go into a restaurant and they'll be really busy, but no one will be in there. And it's because they're doing delivery orders. And you feel bad for the people working back there because they're serving quadruple the amount of people that they have capacity for. And. Yeah, I think you're right. Covid kind of. It gave an excuse for people to kind of, like, deteriorate the product, but also. Yeah. People wanted to reinvent the wheel. People wanted to have touchless, contactless. I go to a restaurant for contact.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Yeah.

[Susie Weiss]

To be touched.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Right. She's just looking for contact.

[Susie Weiss]

Yeah. I'm just skin hungry over here.

[Jackie Schimmel]

She's. Anthony, we're ding.

[Susie Weiss]

Maybe I. It was projection. It was projection. No, I'm just so lonely.

[Jackie Schimmel]

I'm cracking up. It'll be okay. We stand with Susie.

[Susie Weiss]

Yes, we stand a canceled queen.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Our next story is some interesting news. Excited to get your take because Sydney Sweeney is teaming up with Dr. Squatch to release a bar of soap made from her bath water. So Sydney Sweeney is taking men's bath products to the next level on Thursday, a natural body care line called Dr. Squatch. That's what that is. Revealed that it teamed up with Ms. Sweeney to create a soap made from her bath water. A joint post said, you kept asking about my bath water after the Dr. Squatch ad. So we kept in it, introducing Sydney's Bathwater Bliss, a very real, very limited edition soap made with my actual bath water. Available on June 6 at drswatch.com One.

[Susie Weiss]

Thing about Sydney Sweeney. The girl is getting her bag.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Yeah, she.

[Susie Weiss]

I mean, is she. What's the skincare brand she reps? I Forget.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Oh, I. It's on her Instagram. She's always posting.

[Susie Weiss]

I don't know what it is.

[Jackie Schimmel]

It's laneige.

[Susie Weiss]

Yes.

[Jackie Schimmel]

With the lip mask.

[Susie Weiss]

And I mean, I love her.

[Jackie Schimmel]

You do?

[Susie Weiss]

Yes. I think she's like, all American. I think she's really fun. I think she stays in her lane and just sort of like lets millions of flowers bloom in there. She's not trying to also be a singer. She's not like.

[Jackie Schimmel]

That's true. And she's not like, you know, shaving her head just cause she doesn't like everyone like looking at her. Like, she's like, here, you got. This is what you like. Here's more. Here's my bath water.

[Susie Weiss]

Yeah, exactly. She's in on the joke, though.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Yeah.

[Susie Weiss]

About her. It's not like, hey, take me seriously. My eyes are up here. Like, she's just having fun with it. And I think, like, I kind of want to try the show.

[Jackie Schimmel]

I guess it is for men. I just wonder how much a brand like this has to pay her to like, be so goofy like this. Like, you know, because it's so unserious and like, it is appealing to like, people's like, base instincts. So like, I. I just wonder how they got her to go along with this. And it feels like money would do that.

[Susie Weiss]

Yeah. But like, I don't.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Does Dr. Squatch have that coin?

[Susie Weiss]

Who's Dr. Squatch? I don't know. It's like Dr. Bronner's like, step cousin.

[Jackie Schimmel]

I've never heard of Dr. Squatch. So it's also. Unless, like, she's Dr. Squatch, because the doctor could be a woman.

[Susie Weiss]

She got her PhD. Yeah. Oh, yeah. We forget it. Because a doctor could be a woman. Dr. Squatch is my PCP.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Because you said he is a cousin. Thank you for calling me a.

[Susie Weiss]

Thank you for calling me in internalized. Well, if doctor squat. If a female PhD is creating a. A bar of soap with Sydney Sweeney's bath water, I'll eat it.

[Jackie Schimmel]

But she could also just be like a regular doctor. Not PhD. PhD is like the doctorate.

[Susie Weiss]

Like an MD is PhD.

[Jackie Schimmel]

MD.

[Susie Weiss]

No, those are different.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Right? PhD is like teacher.

[Susie Weiss]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like Dr. Joe Biden.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Right? That's.

[Susie Weiss]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Teacher. What do you think of this, Batsuit? Are you gonna use it?

[Jackie Schimmel]

No. And I feel like once it said, like, it's for men, I feel good about the fact that I don't even have to think about, should I be using this?

[Susie Weiss]

Well, it's like an axe reinvention. Remember? When Axe had, like, that really macho marketing.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Yeah. Well, do you think they actually, like, they said they saved her bathwater, and it's a drop of bathwater in each. Like, do you think that that's even true, like. Or it's just marketing.

[Susie Weiss]

I mean, I don't know what they can get away with in terms of, like, puffery claims around this. I would love.

[Jackie Schimmel]

And in terms of hygiene, you know, not that it's. Not that anything would turn up, but, like, that's like, could they sell soap and it has dirty bath.

[Susie Weiss]

Well, it's like, it's. Yeah. Like selling used underwear or something. It's like when I saw that question about that the other day.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Right.

[Susie Weiss]

For Dear Toasters. How would you advise if I found that out? I'm too old to make complaints at this point. I say whatever you want.

[Jackie Schimmel]

They'll take what you can carry.

[Susie Weiss]

You take what you can carry. There's worse things.

[Jackie Schimmel]

He wants to be close to you.

[Susie Weiss]

Yeah, exactly.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Yeah.

[Susie Weiss]

I mean, it's nice. He can jump in the shower with some Sydney Sweeney bath soap.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Right. Would you rather find Sydney Sweeney bath soap or your own dirty undies?

[Susie Weiss]

My own dirty undies.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Agreed. So this is actually more concerning. This is a good gift, you know, every guy, like, for the guy who. Like, Sydney Sweeney's my help.

[Susie Weiss]

Ass. Yeah. Yeah.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Merry Christmas.

[Susie Weiss]

Yeah, exactly. Exactly. I mean, I love the advertising around it. I think. I also think she's like. Like, she's just so fun to watch. She's mesmerizing. And Euphoria, Season three, When is that coming out?

[Jackie Schimmel]

Filming now. Tbd. Do you watch Euphoria? Of course. Yeah. And also, you're on the culture beat. Like, you kind of have to.

[Susie Weiss]

I think I.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Even though so am I. But I don't.

[Susie Weiss]

I think Sam's brilliant. I think everything he does is brilliant. Yeah.

[Jackie Schimmel]

I really do think Sam girly.

[Susie Weiss]

Absolutely. And I just think.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Not that I like even. You do.

[Susie Weiss]

Yeah. I just. I think the show is really.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Did he also do that show at the Weeknd?

[Susie Weiss]

Yeah, he did the Idol.

[Jackie Schimmel]

And you thought that was brilliant?

[Susie Weiss]

I haven't seen it.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Okay. She's marked safe, Mark.

[Susie Weiss]

Safe from the end. Yeah, exactly. I haven't seen it yet, but I just think he's just really. His dialogue's really good. It just feels really, like, fresh. And I'm so excited to see season three.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Okay. Positivity.

[Susie Weiss]

Yes.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Is there anything you don't like other than Anthony d' Ordain's his legacy. Yeah. It stands the fan base like that's. Always so frustrating when you say something and, like, people run with they cheats. Anthony Bourdain, like, that's not what she. So we just need to, like, make it.

[Susie Weiss]

No.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Anthony Morning's fans and the culture around. Yeah, no, I understand what you're eating too.

[Susie Weiss]

Seriously.

[Jackie Schimmel]

I think I understand what you're saying, but it's frustrating to be misunderstood, don't you find?

[Susie Weiss]

I do. I am misunderstood. You know those, like, pillows they used to have from like.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Yeah, like, little misunderstood.

[Susie Weiss]

Yeah, exactly. I'm like, I'm so goth, cuz I got canceled this week. I need to go to Hot Topic and just like, rage.

[Jackie Schimmel]

It's been a rough one. That's why she had to go to Daphne's.

[Susie Weiss]

Oh, yeah, exactly. No, that. That part was really great. Yeah, exactly. I had to go undercover.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Yeah.

[Susie Weiss]

Here's the thing. I don't like me being misunderstood. No one does. But I think you get to a point where you see people intentionally misreading you, and then you start to kind of wise up and be like, rise above. Yeah. When they go low, we go lower. That's what I always say. So I'm just trying to find a lower take.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Yeah.

[Susie Weiss]

Like, I'm like, you have no idea the bottom that I. That I'm gonna look for and finds worse. Yeah.

[Jackie Schimmel]

You wanna go?

[Susie Weiss]

Hello? Yeah, let's go, baby. I mean, come on. I mean, what did I write about recently that I read? Melinda Gates memoir. Did not like that.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Tldr.

[Susie Weiss]

Complain, complain, complain.

[Jackie Schimmel]

What's the tea?

[Susie Weiss]

It's like, honey, it's like, get a bauble. Get a plane. Get some. Spend some revenge money. I mean, the things. I mean, Linda Gates aside, like, you're married to one of the richest men in the world. I don't think he was particularly easy to be married to. But the book was just all about, like, I had to search for myself. I had to go on, as they say in Real Housewives of Salt Lake City, a healing journey.

[Jackie Schimmel]

A healing journey. You know what? That's the word du jour at the moment.

[Susie Weiss]

Healing journey.

[Jackie Schimmel]

I was just thinking healing period. I was just something like, I was thinking about something. Everyone is healing or everyone's on a journey. Do you watch Secret Lives of Mormon Wives?

[Susie Weiss]

I watched the first. It's funny. My friend. My best friend is here. We were in Florida recently, and I literally, like, forced ark on point to watch the first season. Some of the best television that's ever been made. It was like, before the first commercial break, she had gotten pregnant, lost the Baby gotten pregnant again. That was on the pilot.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Yeah.

[Susie Weiss]

That was unbelievable.

[Jackie Schimmel]

And then by the end of the episode. Arrested.

[Susie Weiss]

Yes, by the end of the. She is something else.

[Jackie Schimmel]

She is. But I will never say a bad word about her. I'm obsessed.

[Susie Weiss]

I just. I just hope mom talk can survive this.

[Jackie Schimmel]

I think that they can because of Taylor, Frankie, Paul. Like, she will rise above what were we just talk. Oh, he so secret lives and more minds. Like, they're all healing and they're all being held accountable. And that's always fun. That's my favorite. Healing is my favorite.

[Susie Weiss]

I love. We love healing. We love longevity, immune boosting.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Yeah. Well, now you're on collagen production. This is classic podcast banter, don't you know?

[Susie Weiss]

Really?

[Jackie Schimmel]

Yeah. Well, not on this podcast, but other podcasts. These are the topics du jour.

[Susie Weiss]

Well, I don't know if you've followed the Ace family drama.

[Jackie Schimmel]

You were telling me a little bit about it. But please, like, please be Claudia today and do a Susie explains it all, because there's a lot of drama happening. There's a lot of scoop going on right now, and that's that Kathy Hilton. Oh, sound. What's the second half? I forget.

[Susie Weiss]

We love Kathy Hilton.

[Jackie Schimmel]

We do.

[Susie Weiss]

We love all the same people.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Yeah. No, that's why I'm waiting for you to say something, like, really actually negative about someone. You're really positive.

[Susie Weiss]

I'm generally really positive. I will say the Ace family drama sucked me in this week, and I could have some negative things to say about Austin McBroom. Basically, the Ace family, they're this YouTube family.

[Jackie Schimmel]

They've been filming a family channel, but.

[Susie Weiss]

Like, the biggest family channel.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Okay.

[Susie Weiss]

This is the one. They have three children. If I could name them, I really should get my University of Michigan degree taken away. L Steel.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Cute.

[Susie Weiss]

And I forget the third one, but they broke up. There's been for years cheating allegations against Austin McBroom. Do you watch YouTube? Are you like a YouTube girl?

[Jackie Schimmel]

No.

[Susie Weiss]

Okay.

[Jackie Schimmel]

I'm like, I only watch the toes. Just kidding. But no, I don't. Do you watch the McBrooms?

[Susie Weiss]

I don't, but I like. I keep abreast.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Okay.

[Susie Weiss]

I go in my situation room and they tell me about it. But the. Basically, they broke up. Catherine has a memoir coming out. Alaia, Katherine has a memoir coming out. Went on call her daddy and sort of let it all out. What was going on with Austin, how he was cheating, how it went down. Austin goes on Snapchat. Looks like she's having the last laugh. I mean, Come on, get someone to have you on their podcast. And he just sort of says that she became addicted to ayahuasca. She was taking it every month. She thought she was the Virgin Mary. And it's sort of this, like, classic. It's almost. I don't wanna say Shakespearean, but it's like she is like, this kind of damsel in distress that she's been betrayed. And she's coming forward about it now that she's on her healing journey. And Austin is saying, well, it actually didn't go down like that. She's crazy. And it's just been so fun to watch.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Are you gonna read her memoir?

[Susie Weiss]

No.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Why?

[Susie Weiss]

I just feel like I'll probably just get the highlights.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Yeah. You read Melinda's.

[Susie Weiss]

I did read Melinda's, yeah. To want to end just to write about it. And I wanted. Here's the thing. I'm not gonna read Catherine's memoir because you get all of the best bits.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Like, on podcasts in the podcast, and.

[Susie Weiss]

The clips on YouTube, because that's what they're called.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Linda's pretty much like Melinda's just closed a close door if you wanna know anything about her.

[Susie Weiss]

So I had to open her book. But then she gave you nothing. It's like, don't tell me that you didn't find out about whatever was going on with Bill and go spend half a million dollars at Bloomingdale's.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Right.

[Susie Weiss]

You know what I mean? Or whatever her thing is.

[Jackie Schimmel]

She didn't say what's going on with Bill.

[Susie Weiss]

Yeah. I mean, he had been unfaithful, but that was sort of known.

[Jackie Schimmel]

But any. Like, is the word epstein in the book?

[Susie Weiss]

The word epstein is. She says. She words it really interesting. She says, like, I had known Bill had stepped outside the marriage, but he had done.

[Jackie Schimmel]

We don't want to miss this. Sorry, Mike.

[Susie Weiss]

He had done something that had, like, betrayed not only our marriage, but my values, is how she put it. And I'm like, give us a little. Come on.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Okay. But that's, like, a pretty cool way to put it.

[Susie Weiss]

Yeah. Like, keep the otters a little bit.

[Jackie Schimmel]

That's something. I don't know. But I guess if you're gonna write a book, like, you've gotta say something.

[Susie Weiss]

Yes, exactly.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Otherwise, just don't write the book. Like, we don't need. You don't need to ever tell us.

[Susie Weiss]

But don't write a book exactly. To, like, help other women who are. It's about, like, transitional moments in life, which I think is a really good subject. Okay. And I Think middle age divorce, like, as like Gen X and boomers start to get divorced. There's so much content around that right now.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Yeah.

[Susie Weiss]

So much divorce content.

[Jackie Schimmel]

You know what? I was thinking the same thing, especially on reality tv, between watching Secret Lives of Mormon Wives and the Valley.

[Susie Weiss]

Yes.

[Jackie Schimmel]

A lot of young couples getting divorced.

[Susie Weiss]

Are there like, starter marriages? Like, they were married for a year. No kids.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Yes, kids.

[Susie Weiss]

That makes it hard.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Yeah, they're. They all have kids, so I guess it's a starter marriage because they're gonna go on to probably marry again. But they all have kids and it's like they are awful to each other.

[Susie Weiss]

Co parenting. That's another big word.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Oh, yeah.

[Susie Weiss]

As we're co parenting.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Yeah. But at least it's like a tangible thing that you absolutely have to do.

[Susie Weiss]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. We're healing on our co parenting journey.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Yeah. But there's no time for a journey because, like, the kids have to be picked up at 3:00. So why don't you get over there?

[Susie Weiss]

Oh, my God. Bethenny Frankel says a lot of really interesting stuff about divorce co parenting because she's really been through the wringer.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Yeah, she was. So, like, when you have kids, like, there is a limit to what you're gonna say. No matter how awful that for most people, no matter how awful that person is, like, that's your child's parent. Like, I would hope that there's a line.

[Susie Weiss]

Well, it's interesting with the Ace family because they got famous exposing the family.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Right. It's like they're right. There are some people who have just been like, well, this pays the bills. And. And it is what it is. And they've just sort of signed that away. And like, even Jackson, Brittany, like, they're not. There's very little that they hold back because at this point, they can't. That's their life, that's their job. It's as if they weren't doing their job. But some people who are just have other jobs, like influencer Pod. Like, even Kristin Cavallari is a good example. She doesn't. I know she probably been through a lot with her husband, but she doesn't talk that negatively about him.

[Susie Weiss]

Yeah, I think, I think it's hard. It's. I think you have to kind of decide at the outset. And I love to watch influencers, like, after they have a kid, like, this parent wants to show the face. This parent doesn't.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Yeah.

[Susie Weiss]

This parent wants to reveal the name. This parent does. Because the kid can't really consent Right.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Did you watch the Paul Brothers show?

[Susie Weiss]

I did.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Did you love it?

[Susie Weiss]

I loved. They are. They're great American entertainers. They talk about that a lot. Yeah, I would. You watched it?

[Jackie Schimmel]

I loved it.

[Susie Weiss]

I loved it.

[Jackie Schimmel]

But they had that conversation, Nina and Logan, about whether or not they would show their kid's face, and she was feeling more private, and he was like, couldn't. Couldn't conceive of taking a photo and not posting it. But I think they're still in a flux. Cause they were basically like. Like, while she's a baby, like, it kind of doesn't matter, but.

[Susie Weiss]

Yeah. Because their face changes so much.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Yeah, but.

[Susie Weiss]

But then once they get older, you're like, well, we already posted her as the baby.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Right. But if you. And if you get comfortable posting, like, when. At what point is it like, okay, well, today she looks too much. Like she's gonna look. Yeah.

[Susie Weiss]

You don't know.

[Jackie Schimmel]

But I think their thinking was, like, eventually, when she's not a baby, they won't post so much. But from what I see, I don't follow them so closely on social media, but they don't really post a lot of. I don't know what they decided, but it's unclear.

[Susie Weiss]

Well, they're just more like brands at this point. Like, when I look at the Paul's feeds, I don't feel like I'm getting an insight into their life so much, as opposed to just what they want me to know about prime and about.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Prime, which is why the show is so great.

[Susie Weiss]

Yes.

[Jackie Schimmel]

They held nothing back on the show.

[Susie Weiss]

Oh, my God. And the parents.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Yeah.

[Susie Weiss]

It's so wild.

[Jackie Schimmel]

And I think there could be nothing more vulnerable than bringing a television camera crew in with you to do ayahuasca. Like, I can't.

[Susie Weiss]

I didn't see that part.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Oh, yeah. He went to Jake because Jake does it. And he brought the dad. Because when he did Ayahuasca, he had all these breakthroughs, so he thought that his dad would have the same. And then they could, you know, get on the same page, heal in an earnest way. But imagine, like, being on drugs and just, like, who knows what's gonna happen next? And they're just filming you. Like, that's a serious level of, like, comfortability with just being totally open.

[Susie Weiss]

I think, like, the maybe Galaxy Brain take is that they only feel comfortable like that.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Like, Galaxy Brain.

[Susie Weiss]

Like, they're only feeling, like, their best self or able to share. Because, like, there's a lot of beef between Jake and Logan. And I'm like, are they even able to talk about it in private when. Or are they always just like. No, we need to, like, parlay this into a. A bit of content. It really kind of gets you thinking.

[Jackie Schimmel]

That's an interesting point. I wonder what they're like when no cameras are rolling. But we would never know.

[Susie Weiss]

We would never know. They're. How did they talk about it? They're like. It's like Jackass meets Kardashians or something.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Yeah, I guess that's a good way to put it.

[Susie Weiss]

And they live in. They both live in Puerto Rico.

[Jackie Schimmel]

They both live in Puerto Rico. But then, like, Logan has his family home upstate. That's where they were, like, nesting.

[Susie Weiss]

Upstate New York.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Yeah.

[Susie Weiss]

Wow. I didn't know that.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Yeah, it's like a cabin, but a big one, you know, but, like, log native logs, cabin joggers, spring, summer.

[Susie Weiss]

I mean, the really interesting thing about that brotherhood is that Jake holds that the dad abused them, and Logan is like.

[Jackie Schimmel]

He wouldn't use that word.

[Susie Weiss]

He wouldn't use that word.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Yeah.

[Susie Weiss]

And figuring that out.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Yeah.

[Susie Weiss]

On. On television, I think, is tall order.

[Jackie Schimmel]

In addition to, like, the Alyssa Violet of it all. The girl.

[Susie Weiss]

Well, this is actually funny. This is kind of where we started talking about, like, working with siblings in your new media venture.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Right. They're so your digital media venture with our son, Ashre Weiss Coded.

[Susie Weiss]

Yeah. We need a. We need a panel. We need. We need Andy Cohen, and we need all the siblings, The Pauls, the Ashes, the Weisss.

[Jackie Schimmel]

I was gonna say, like, a good podcast would be, like, sibling interviews, but that's actually what. What Kate Hudson and her brother do.

[Susie Weiss]

Oh, really?

[Jackie Schimmel]

They have a podcast called Sibling Revelry, and they interview siblings.

[Susie Weiss]

And Michelle Obama and her brother have a podcast too.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Do they interview siblings?

[Susie Weiss]

They don't interview.

[Jackie Schimmel]

You need a niche.

[Susie Weiss]

Yeah.

[Jackie Schimmel]

You podcast a lot in your daily life, like, because you guys have a podcast. Barry has a podcast.

[Susie Weiss]

Barry has a podcast. I'll, like, host it or I'll, like, pop in very, very occasionally.

[Jackie Schimmel]

You were on a video talking about Haley B. Well, you were talking about something. She came up.

[Susie Weiss]

Oh, I was talking about Justin Bieber and the crash out.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Yeah, and the crash.

[Susie Weiss]

I don't. I really want to do a podcast. No. No one would watch this, so I'm not gonna do it. Do you go on Chatroulette ever?

[Jackie Schimmel]

No.

[Susie Weiss]

You remember it?

[Jackie Schimmel]

Yes.

[Susie Weiss]

I go on Chatroulette all the time still. And I would love to do Chat Roulette, the podcast where I just talk to people on Chatroulette.

[Jackie Schimmel]

That's A pretty good idea.

[Susie Weiss]

Isn't it a fun idea? Yeah, because I think everyone who hosts a podcast is always like, it'd be great if we got, like, regular people, but, like, how do you get them? But the problem is you, like, you don't know what they're gonna say. It might not be that interesting.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Right. So you might have a lot of stuff that ends up on the cutting room floor.

[Susie Weiss]

Right, that's true. I think it would just be, like, a lot.

[Jackie Schimmel]

It would have to be, like, kind of produced.

[Susie Weiss]

Yeah.

[Jackie Schimmel]

But in a fine way. That's fine.

[Susie Weiss]

So if you. If I ever have a podcast, that will be it. But for now, this is like, this is like the biggest, most glam podcast I've ever done.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Well, it's also the biggest, most glam podcast, period.

[Susie Weiss]

Yeah, that's true. It is. It's just so pargalicious. It's so fucking like it.

[Jackie Schimmel]

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[Susie Weiss]

You're so good at that. Oh my God, that was so amazing. Navigating a plant based lifestyle.

[Jackie Schimmel]

I mean it's.

[Susie Weiss]

Who is it?

[Jackie Schimmel]

It's hard to navigate a plant based lifestyle. Do you have any dietary restrictions?

[Susie Weiss]

No.

[Jackie Schimmel]

That's good.

[Susie Weiss]

I really don't. And I'm, I'm writing about the David Protein bar, one of your sponsors. Huge amount of protein in that. Yeah, but I don't get the protein. Like, I feel like once you start poking around internally and like, how many people do I know who are like, I stopped eating gluten, I feel so different. It's like, like I don't want that to happen to me.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Then I don't want to feel so different.

[Susie Weiss]

Well, then I can't eat gluten forever.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Like, oh, that's true. Like you don't want to.

[Susie Weiss]

I'm just going to get comfortable with whatever this is and if I never find out that it's bad, then I.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Feel like for, for at least like the people that I know who have stopped eating gluten, like it's because some, they were feeling wrong before, you know, and they were feel like there was Something was wrong, so then they had to find the source of it. But if you don't feel that way, then you're gluten tolerant.

[Susie Weiss]

Are you gluten intolerant?

[Jackie Schimmel]

No.

[Susie Weiss]

No.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Oh, yeah.

[Susie Weiss]

Sourdough Queen.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Yeah. Yeah. I eat everything.

[Susie Weiss]

Would you consider yourself a girl boss?

[Jackie Schimmel]

I guess, like, you know, dictionary definition, I am a girl boss, but I don't identify as one. You know, totally, like, cult. Like, I don't want to be a part of, like, the Zeitgeist. But yes, I'm a classic case of a girl.

[Susie Weiss]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Aren't we all?

[Susie Weiss]

It's advanced, it's chronic.

[Jackie Schimmel]

It's. Yeah, it is, but it's now. It's just. It stands for something that I don't want to be a part of. Yeah, just like cringiness.

[Susie Weiss]

Yeah, I completely agree.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Yeah.

[Susie Weiss]

Emily Sundberg, the writer who does this amazing culture column called Feed Me, writes about, like, we're kind of in like, Girl Boss 2.0 era, where you have like, I forget her name. She's like a podcast. Like an entrepreneur who has a podcast. It's a lot of, like, panels sitting on panels and you're like, sort of like business suit.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Emma Greed.

[Susie Weiss]

Yes.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Crushed it.

[Susie Weiss]

Crushed it.

[Jackie Schimmel]

What'd she say about her?

[Susie Weiss]

That she's just like the new incarnation. It's like, we're kind of done with, like.

[Jackie Schimmel]

But I just want to say if she's the new incarnation of Girl Boss, like, I'm here for that. I like everything that she says and I like what she does and I don't find it cringe. And she. The real deal. She was also on Shark Tank.

[Susie Weiss]

No way.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Yeah, she was a guest shark and she, like, co owns all those Kardashian brands. And then she's also like a mom of four and she's really doing it.

[Susie Weiss]

She's a genius.

[Jackie Schimmel]

And she, like, when she does some of those panels, I see some of those clips go viral. Like, she's doling out hard truths, like, things that people, like, don't want to hear.

[Susie Weiss]

Like, you can't have it all.

[Jackie Schimmel]

You. You, like, can and you can't. Like, something is going to suffer. It's not just like, lean in, lean in. What if you just leaned in, trying.

[Susie Weiss]

To lean out, Charlie. All the way out.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Totally. I'm too far deep now.

[Susie Weiss]

I'm too. I'm. I've leaned in and I can't get up.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Yeah. It's so true.

[Susie Weiss]

Oh, my God.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Are you seeing anyone single, Single, Ready to mingle?

[Susie Weiss]

I was at My Best friend's wedding this weekend and I was with my other best friend. We kept going around. We thought it was funny. This is probably why we're single because we thought this was funny going. We're just married to our career. We just love our. We love our independent time. You know, I don't want someone else in the house with me. You know, just my. My career's really taken on and it's like, shut up. Who cares? But yeah, cute. Looking for the one.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Okay, well, we'll keep your eyes peeled. We're gonna manifest.

[Susie Weiss]

Yeah, let's manifest. My friend. My friend called me the other day.

[Jackie Schimmel]

She goes, I will keep my eyes peeled. You said you're 28 or 26?

[Susie Weiss]

29.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Oh, so you said neither.

[Susie Weiss]

So perfect. Let's go 26.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Crush it.

[Susie Weiss]

But yeah, if you know anyone, I will think about.

[Jackie Schimmel]

About it.

[Susie Weiss]

Yeah. I only have a few requirements. Funny, Jewish kind, really tall if he stands on his wallet.

[Jackie Schimmel]

But we're also short, so, like, it technically doesn't matter. More candidates. Do you go on the apps?

[Susie Weiss]

I'm not an app, girly.

[Jackie Schimmel]

I think you've got to get on the apps.

[Susie Weiss]

I've done the app. It's not like an I'm too good for it type situation. It's just.

[Jackie Schimmel]

I know some people. It's just like, it's not ideal. It's. And it's like that's.

[Susie Weiss]

I've gone on 10,000 updates. They just don't work for. It's just, it's never that. All the people I've dated, it's dinner parties. Parties.

[Jackie Schimmel]

I feel like you would have a big network.

[Susie Weiss]

I do have a bit. I'm a. I'm a shotgun. I set people up.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Oh, you. You do?

[Susie Weiss]

Yeah.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Oh, we'll have to chat offline.

[Susie Weiss]

Yeah, well, yeah.

[Jackie Schimmel]

No one that you set up, like, would have worked for you.

[Susie Weiss]

No. You don't want to set up someone who you want for yourself.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Well, of course, but you. No one, like ever came across your desk. You're like, I'll take this one. Don't look at it. Yeah, Just file away.

[Susie Weiss]

I'm going to make sure he's not poisonous.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. That never happened.

[Susie Weiss]

No, it's not happened yet.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Okay. How many people have you seen set.

[Susie Weiss]

Up one that like toy. Toy, toy. Like two that I'm confident in.

[Jackie Schimmel]

What? So the one is like new.

[Susie Weiss]

Yes. Yeah. No. No marriages yet.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Okay. But you know, if you get three shit offs, right to heaven. So Susie, like, I think.

[Susie Weiss]

And it's also just really good juju and Karma to set people up. And I think there's, like, also a, like, setting people up in a certain way, which is just like, let them do, like, oh, do you want to meet this person? Do you want to meet that person? Here's the number. Hands off.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Agreed.

[Susie Weiss]

Don't try and do a dinner where you're going to bring everyone together.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Like, here's the number of someone who is single, eligible, and I think you would, like.

[Susie Weiss]

Yeah. And if you don't want to reach out, not my problem. You know what I mean? You just have to have a light. Have you ever set anyone up?

[Jackie Schimmel]

Definitely, Though I can't think of anyone I would love to have set people up. I don't know why I thought I did. Yeah. I've definitely said I'm always like, I have an ear out, you know, But I just don't know that many guys is my problem. Well, my whole life is girls.

[Susie Weiss]

Yeah, it's true.

[Jackie Schimmel]

So that's why I can't, like, really be super helpful to any.

[Susie Weiss]

Where are those guys hiding?

[Jackie Schimmel]

I don't know. But also, I'm just, like, not a girl who ever had, like, guy friends. I don't have brothers like your girls, girl. I'm such a girl's girl. To a fault.

[Susie Weiss]

I know. It's so much more fun, though.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Yeah. Oh, I'm a happy girls girl.

[Susie Weiss]

Yes.

[Jackie Schimmel]

It's very joyful. But I guess. Yeah, I don't have, like, connects, and I don't have, like, great single guy friends. And I went to a college that wasn't, like, super Jewish. So, like, I don't have. Yeah, that's where I would have had even, like. So I just don't have that many.

[Susie Weiss]

I know. I think of you guys as very, like, yeshiva, like, league.

[Jackie Schimmel]

We are so yeshiva league, which is.

[Susie Weiss]

I'm. I was so jealous of the. I went on a gap year and, like, the yeshiva league girls, I was like, they are so mean. They are so, like, cutting. And I love.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Where did you go on a gap year to Israel. And did you go to yeshiva high school?

[Susie Weiss]

No, no, they're secular. Secular public school. I went to Taylor Alderdice High School. Mac Miller went there. Wiz Khalifa went there.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Oh, cute.

[Susie Weiss]

It's like a culturally resident high school.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Got it. I could have seen that.

[Susie Weiss]

Where'd you guys grow up?

[Jackie Schimmel]

In the city. What'd you do in Israel? What sort of program?

[Susie Weiss]

It was just, like, a study. It wasn't really religious, but I figured.

[Jackie Schimmel]

But just like a study abroad.

[Susie Weiss]

It was study abroad. It was travel. I Was like one watching Donnie Darko on an ipod touch in the back of a coach bus while people were looking at the Taj Mahal. Like, I was really, like, it was. I'm not really a travel girl.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Me neither.

[Susie Weiss]

I don't care about it.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Yeah, no, it's like I.

[Susie Weiss]

People are disgusted when. When they hear that.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Yeah. I don't like, say it so often, but, like, if you know me, like, I don't travel a lot. I don't have the travel itch.

[Susie Weiss]

I really don' I'll also say like this. This is my. The Louvre. You know what I mean? I don't need to see the Louvre. Like, right here, talking to someone, having my iced coffee, swirling the ice around in midtown. What more do you need out of life? It's like, what am I gonna see out there that's gonna be.

[Jackie Schimmel]

It's gonna be any better than this?

[Susie Weiss]

Than like, exploring the depths of a new person?

[Jackie Schimmel]

Yeah. What was your major in college?

[Susie Weiss]

I studied business and art history.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Oh, interesting. That's a good duo.

[Susie Weiss]

Yeah, it was a good duo. And then I went into writing and girl bossing.

[Jackie Schimmel]

And that gives you actually, like a lot to a lot of good foundation for like, subjects business and art history.

[Susie Weiss]

Art. Yeah.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Looking around, art is a good thing to know.

[Susie Weiss]

Art is a good. I think it's. People are so, like. It's so hard to know what you're looking at. And it's so easy to get embarrassed and not like, feel like you have a valid opinion because you don't know everything about something. And it's such a, like, cloistered world. But that really could be. We could disrupt that. Our art history needs a new media disruption. Oh, gotta find some siblings.

[Jackie Schimmel]

I think so. Well, are you ready for our next story? Speaking of weddings, word has emerged some word on the street about what transpired between Victoria Beckham and Brooklyn and Nicola at the Nicola Brooklyn wedding. This is what sources are saying, that Victoria Beckham stole the spotlight at Brooklyn and Nicola's 2022 wedding. A source close to the Peltz family, so this would be team Nicola, claimed that that Victoria stole the happy couple's special dance during the reception. So Grammy Award winner Marc Anthony took the stage to perform at the wedding. And the story goes that he was supposed to sing a song that would be Brooklyn and Nicholas first dance. Before the song began, Marc Anthony asked Brooklyn to come to the stage and then said, the most beautiful woman in the room tonight. Come on up, Victoria Beckham, which is not what a bride wants to hear. So the Move allegedly left Nicola feeling that Victoria ruined her wedding and she couldn't understand why. Why? A second source who witnessed the moment said everyone then watched Nicola run from the room crying. Nicola felt during the wedding, during the wedding Nicola felt like Victoria did this on purpose when she knew it was a pre planned romantic dance meant for Brooklyn and Nicola. What she couldn't understand was why she would do it. So it was such a jaw dropping moment. The source said that it left the whole room in absolute shock. You could hear a pin drop. It wasn't appropriate. They said so honestly I know this is just sources and stuff but like.

[Susie Weiss]

Like I believe it's too specific.

[Jackie Schimmel]

I cuz also after the wedding like no one wanted to be near each other. There's two sources who are saying like this is what happened and I feel like a weird thing like this is exactly what could derail an otherwise perfect wedding.

[Susie Weiss]

But it wasn't a perfect wedding because weren't all the vendors stealing from them.

[Jackie Schimmel]

And like the party planners they were having issues with that. And also the other beef from the wedding is like Brooklyn Nicola didn't wear a Victoria Beckham dress. I think that sort of just like didn't work out and it just wound up looking bad for both of them. Like why wouldn't you wear. Even though it's not like when I think bridal I think the bride has.

[Susie Weiss]

To wear Victoria Beckham.

[Jackie Schimmel]

It's not like she married son. Right?

[Susie Weiss]

Yeah, exactly.

[Jackie Schimmel]

So that wasn't. That didn't seem so smelly to me but I could see something like this happening and maybe Victoria.

[Susie Weiss]

I don't think Victoria said to Mark Anthony say this. I think Mark Anthony made a bad joke.

[Jackie Schimmel]

I think so too. But I think maybe in light of all the other dynamics that were happening that was. And I'm sure Nicola might have felt some sort of way like Victoria is this larger than life person and like when you're in a room with her like it's. She's kind of the number one girl in the.

[Susie Weiss]

Nicola can hold her own.

[Jackie Schimmel]

She can but like it's your wedding and to feel that way and emotions are already heightened. I could see, I just could see it. It seems feasible. It seems like something that's so innocuous that like no one went out of their way to do anything wrong. But it could totally derail the party.

[Susie Weiss]

Yeah, it's like you're just, you're like like on a knife's edge just ready to fucking go berserk. I feel like at your wedding and.

[Jackie Schimmel]

It'S Just one word from Mark Anthony. One word.

[Susie Weiss]

Oh, and she has plenty she could say back to him.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Yeah.

[Susie Weiss]

But this is all on the heels of the fact that Brooklyn and Nicola were not to be seen at David Beckham's 50th birthday party.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Yes. In London, feud has picked back up. So after the wedding, they were, like, totally separate. They weren't speaking to each other and it was, like, bad. And then they all came back together and they were all supporting each other. Family events. She's in the documentary. Like, everything was good. And then they didn't go to the birthday party and. And now they're not seen together again unless, like, things have happened. So also, Team Brooklyn. Nicola have said that, like, the Beckhams are like, narcissists. Another buzzword.

[Susie Weiss]

Yeah.

[Jackie Schimmel]

And, you know, it's just, like, hard to be around them. And I guess if you think that way about someone, then something like this would really upset you.

[Susie Weiss]

Yeah, that would really upset me. But it's like, it's. It would be so easy for Nicola and Brooklyn to come out on top by being the bigger person and just like, of course, going to the wedding. Of course. Or the. The birthday party, they can, in private, say whatever they want and be like, that was horrible.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Yeah.

[Susie Weiss]

So annoyed. I hate them. But they get to look like it's so much better than kids, essentially, and.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Like, it's so much better for them when they're with the family and, like, there's just, like, it's all good. As opposed to them being like this wayward couple that's, like, out of touch with their family. We had reported a few weeks ago, the sun reported. I don't know if it was true that Brooklyn and Nicola were having dinner with Harry and Meg.

[Susie Weiss]

No way. I mean, similar storylines there.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Yeah. But like, I wouldn't follow that template if I were them. I'd run the other. I'd say, what did they do? Let's do.

[Susie Weiss]

Let's do the opposite. And Nicola's like, should I start a jam business or what? What is it called?

[Jackie Schimmel]

American.

[Susie Weiss]

American Riviera Orchard.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Is that the current name? Yeah.

[Susie Weiss]

No, it's changed. It's changed a bunch of times, but with love. With love from Meghan.

[Jackie Schimmel]

With love.

[Susie Weiss]

As ever.

[Jackie Schimmel]

As ever. Thank you.

[Susie Weiss]

As ever. Yeah. The thing with Brooklyn and Nicola is, was it's like when two dynastic families merge. And I think both of their families sort of have this idea of like, we're the primary family, the number one.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Family in this group, and that's where.

[Susie Weiss]

That'S where issues happen.

[Jackie Schimmel]

And I think if it were another girl who was. Who didn't come from Nicola's background and something at the wedding happened like this, where it's like, again, about the Beckhams, like, she would maybe just be used to it and be like, that's just. You know what? I'm. The family I'm marrying into. They're just gonna constantly make everything about them. And, like, because I'm Cinderella, I'm from, like, nothing, like, small here. And it's Victoria's moment. It's her friend. I could never have Marc Anthony at my wedding.

[Susie Weiss]

She's like, I could have Marc Anthony.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Right.

[Susie Weiss]

Name your price.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Right?

[Susie Weiss]

Yeah.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Like, I would have just paid you to sing the fucking song I wanted you to sing. I didn't need your favor.

[Susie Weiss]

Right, exactly. But it's like, money can't buy you class.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Yeah.

[Susie Weiss]

As. As we learned from Countess Luann.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Yeah.

[Susie Weiss]

I feel bad. I hope they find a way through.

[Jackie Schimmel]

I know, but it's just not good when it gets to this point.

[Susie Weiss]

No.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Like, when I'm talking about it.

[Susie Weiss]

Yeah. But also, it's like Brooklyn never really had an identity outside of being a Beckham. Like, you tried the photography. He tried the chefing. I hear he's trying to be a F1 racer. But he keeps failing his driver's license test. I read that somewhere.

[Jackie Schimmel]

His license to drive.

[Susie Weiss]

Or maybe to drive one of these, like, big, fancy cars.

[Jackie Schimmel]

I can drive. Even barely. I can do it.

[Susie Weiss]

Oh, my God.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Yeah. Our fifth and final story is a little update from yesterday. The Chrisleys have been released from prison, and Julie Chrisley has been spotted for the first time since her prison release. So Joey Comesta was on the toast yesterday, pondering Julie. Julie's. The status of Julie's hair.

[Susie Weiss]

He's fabulous.

[Jackie Schimmel]

He is so great, so fun. And I. I really hadn't given him much thought prior to. Or even afterwards, where he said, like, how is she keeping up with the blonde? And I'm like, I don't know. She probably that even if she went back to her roots, like, it wouldn't. It wouldn't be a big deal. And then a photo emerged of her leaving the facility, and it's kind of a big deal. She looks so different but happy.

[Susie Weiss]

I mean, that's a recession indicator.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Her hair is the least of her problems at the moment. It. Six hours in the chair, and she'll be right as rain.

[Susie Weiss]

I think what we're. We're looking at someone. Her hair looks sort of like, brown, almost auburn. And then the Gray has. Has grown in significantly.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Yeah.

[Susie Weiss]

And it's almost like halfway down. Like an ombre from hell.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Yeah. So it's like if she went in there full blonde, and then she went in full blonde, I'm guessing.

[Susie Weiss]

Oh, oh, oh. If.

[Jackie Schimmel]

If she went in there full blonde, then it started to grow out brown, and then it started to come in gray.

[Susie Weiss]

She weirdly looks, like, fresher. There's something about the.

[Jackie Schimmel]

It's the look of freedom.

[Susie Weiss]

Yes. She's free.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Yeah. She literally, even though I'm sure everyone's clowning on her hair, like, she does not give a f. This is a happy woman.

[Susie Weiss]

Yes. Oh, my God. To get out of the slammer, I wouldn't care what my hair looked like.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Seven years and then in one day, you're home.

[Susie Weiss]

Yeah. It's like, don't worry about the hair, guys. I'm going.

[Jackie Schimmel]

What I'm saying, I wouldn't be surprised if she never dies. Like, everything's changed now.

[Susie Weiss]

I mean, talk about a journey. She's really been on a journey.

[Jackie Schimmel]

She has.

[Susie Weiss]

And I hope she doesn't go back to blonde. I think it's time the Chrisley seen a full rebrand.

[Jackie Schimmel]

That's true. Even if she went to Brown. But there's such a blonde. Like, I don't watch Chrisley stuff, so, like, I'm not so deep in it.

[Susie Weiss]

But, like, it was an early spin off. Chrisley Knows Best.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Yeah.

[Susie Weiss]

Was on Bravo, right?

[Jackie Schimmel]

Yeah.

[Susie Weiss]

And they're really funny family. They're almost like. They're like southern bumpkin Pauls a little bit. Like, they'll just do anything.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Yeah. And then. And people, like, they've been on TV forever. And Joey had also said that they are, like, filming right now. So I guess, like, the status of her hair and. And how she feels about it would be on whatever show they're.

[Susie Weiss]

I hope that's not a major plot point.

[Jackie Schimmel]

I think it might be, given the public's reaction to this photo.

[Susie Weiss]

That's her literally leaving the jail. Do we think.

[Jackie Schimmel]

No, I think no. There's a cereal and milk store right behind her. I think it's like, at some point.

[Susie Weiss]

And she just went to. She just went to get cereal milk.

[Jackie Schimmel]

After she was released from prison. But I think they've been, like, trying to get a picture of her since she got out.

[Susie Weiss]

I'm happy she's free. I don't think the public was made safer by Chris Lee being locked away. I don't think she was, like, a public safety havard.

[Jackie Schimmel]

And you don't think unsafe yeah.

[Susie Weiss]

I'm not, like, getting a deadbolt because the Chrislies are out. You know what I mean? It was insider training, right?

[Jackie Schimmel]

It was tax evasion, bank fraud, and tax evasion.

[Susie Weiss]

Not a good look.

[Jackie Schimmel]

But yeah.

[Susie Weiss]

Who among us?

[Jackie Schimmel]

It's a classic case of reality. Not me. Don't look at me. I would never. I would seriously.

[Susie Weiss]

Oh, my God. That would be such a. Like a reality show with all of the Bravo liberties currently in harshness. Incarcerated.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Or a reality show of former incarcerated reality stars who have to sit down and do their taxes and get fit. Right.

[Susie Weiss]

Well, they're already there because already jail.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Yeah. But like, watching them fill out a 1099. Or maybe it could be educational, like, here is how you do it. Because I think sometimes it's malicious and sometimes I think they just don't know what to do with all this money and they don't know the laws and what you're supposed to do. Do when you start, like, getting all these brand deals and, like, nobody teaches you that.

[Susie Weiss]

Well, that's. Well, that's obviously different, too, from Jen Shaw and what she's been accused of.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Well, yeah.

[Susie Weiss]

Or what she did.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Yes. Because that's not like, some paperwork missing. Yeah, that was nefarious.

[Susie Weiss]

Oh, yeah. You think that Chrisley should be doing, like, financial literacy education.

[Jackie Schimmel]

I think a lot of people should be doing financial literacy education out. And I say this, like, earnestly, like, outside of reality stars, even though I think they have it worse because it's just over overnight success and overnight money.

[Susie Weiss]

Everyone's asking you for things.

[Jackie Schimmel]

If you go from having a job where you get a paycheck and they take your money out for taxes and you never have to think about it, to then, like, getting this influx of 1099 W9.

[Susie Weiss]

I would have no idea what to do.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Right.

[Susie Weiss]

I be. That'd be my hair in 10 years. I'd be walking in jail with that hair.

[Jackie Schimmel]

And I'm not saying that's what happened to them, but that does happen.

[Susie Weiss]

Right.

[Jackie Schimmel]

So I just think forever.

[Susie Weiss]

And they're like criminal masterminds over here.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Right. But also for laypeople, if the tax system is fucking confusing, It's.

[Susie Weiss]

I literally just do TurboTax and I just click as fast as I can, just get to the end. I just. I just got a credit card, like last.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Send up a prayer that you don't go to prison. Literally. Yeah.

[Susie Weiss]

I'd rather pay more.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Right. Of course.

[Susie Weiss]

I'm like, just take it. Of course. Just. I'll pay for this to be over.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Of course. No, I'd rather pay more, like, every time. So crazy.

[Susie Weiss]

This is why I need a husband, right? I'm like. I'm like. I'm like, was it worth it?

[Jackie Schimmel]

But you're a business maker.

[Susie Weiss]

It's like, yeah, I get to wear pants. I'm so excited. I get to make my own money. Still have to pay my rent still to figure out how to do these taxes.

[Jackie Schimmel]

But you're a business major. They don't teach you that.

[Susie Weiss]

No, they don't.

[Jackie Schimmel]

What the do they teach you?

[Susie Weiss]

Who knows?

[Jackie Schimmel]

Like, econ, networking. That's a good skill. I don't have that one.

[Susie Weiss]

No. No, me neither.

[Jackie Schimmel]

You're not a schmoozer.

[Susie Weiss]

Well, I'm definitely a schmoozer, but people.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Like strangers just like putting yourself out there, going up to people. Do you love a work event? Happy hour, drinks?

[Susie Weiss]

I like performing, like, with people, but I'm. There's that. There's like a lot of hope online right now of, like, there's like a girl on TikTok who just goes up to random people on the street and it's just like, hey, how are you, like, taking the car out this week? I see. Like, just. I think that's a really good muscle to have and I think anyone should be able to talk to a stranger. But it's not like, what charges my battery.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Right?

[Susie Weiss]

Yeah, I'll say that.

[Jackie Schimmel]

I agree with that. I agree with that. Well, now it is time for Queenie and weenie of the week and you've come prepared. So let's start with Queenie. I. I have two queenies and I'm going to start with my first obvious one to give a shout out to Claudia because she hasn't been had. She has had an incredible Queenie like, week giving birth, new motherhood, and just a transformative week for our clot. And she is exuding Queenie like behavior. So she is my Queenie always. And it's not fair if we, like, do each other for queenie of the week because then we just be Queenie every week. But because she's not here, I feel like I can say she is my Queenie. And then in my now, I don't want to say celebrity Queenie because Claudia is a celebrity, but also Hailey Bieber.

[Susie Weiss]

Hailey wrote Bieber, everyone.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Yeah.

[Susie Weiss]

You counted her out. You thought she was like. I feel like everyone thought she was just like a. I mean, she was already wealthy, she wasn't a gold digger, but sort of like just wanting to be famous had no personality. And it's like, look who got the last laugh.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Yes. Seriously. Even though people are like, you know, she has a million investors and it's 600 million cash and she's got to pay people back. Whatever. She probably nets out to 100 million, 180 million is what they're saying.

[Susie Weiss]

I think that's take home.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Take home.

[Susie Weiss]

I think it's more than that. If she sold the business for a.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Billion dollars, like, if she had a bunch of investors and there's three co.

[Susie Weiss]

Founders, but she didn't invest anywhere close.

[Jackie Schimmel]

To, like, and it's $600 million cash, $200 million stock, $200 million bonuses when they achieve certain benchmarks in the future.

[Susie Weiss]

They're going to achieve the benchmarks.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Yeah.

[Susie Weiss]

I mean, I saw you were talking about it. It's 10% products.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Yeah.

[Susie Weiss]

It's unbelievable what she's done.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Even if it's 180 million or $100 million. Like, that's what she needed if things were getting, like, tight with, like, that's what she needs to live her life. And now I think she can sleep easier.

[Susie Weiss]

Do you think she's going to leave him?

[Jackie Schimmel]

No, I don't.

[Susie Weiss]

She's, she's.

[Jackie Schimmel]

I also think that she loves him. Like, shocking. Yeah. Like, I think that she loves him and I think she loves her life and her family and like, and I think she. Whatever issues, there's obviously issues. He's obviously not at his best right now.

[Susie Weiss]

Right.

[Jackie Schimmel]

But, like, that's what a marriage is, is working through them. I think that's how she sees marriage. I don't know her at all. It's just about.

[Susie Weiss]

Yeah. Well, they're very religious.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Yeah.

[Susie Weiss]

And so I don't think they would.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Like, don't just leave, like, because the going gets tough and he's being weird at the hockey game, even though I think it's so much more than that. But I think she's like, stand by your man. And if it's the rumors are true, she's been wanting to be with him since she's 13. Like, you think she's getting up now? I don't think so.

[Susie Weiss]

No. No, she may. She's probably in it for the long haul. And like, once people have a baby, they want another baby.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Yeah.

[Susie Weiss]

She'll want to give Jack a silver sibling. I love that name.

[Jackie Schimmel]

I love that name. I would use that name. But I'm Jackie.

[Susie Weiss]

Oh, that's true.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Otherwise, like.

[Susie Weiss]

But do people call you Jack?

[Jackie Schimmel]

No, but I couldn't have a son named Jackie.

[Susie Weiss]

No. But then you would just end up calling him Jackie.

[Jackie Schimmel]

It's just the same name.

[Susie Weiss]

It's the same name. It wouldn't be appropriate.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Right.

[Susie Weiss]

Like having a. You can only have boys now.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Well, I'm having another gender reveal. I read. I put on Patreon, but I haven't said it here. Here. I'm pregnant, by the way.

[Susie Weiss]

That I know.

[Jackie Schimmel]

I figured you're swirly, but thank you. Only on Patreon have I said the gender. But I'll say it here now. Exclusive. Boy. Wow. Yeah.

[Susie Weiss]

Wow.

[Jackie Schimmel]

So very exciting.

[Susie Weiss]

That is so excit. So girl. Mom. Forget girl, boss. You're a girl. Mom.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Boy. Mom.

[Susie Weiss]

Boy. Mom. Boy. Mom.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Sorry.

[Susie Weiss]

Yeah. That is. What is it like? I love growing up with all sisters.

[Jackie Schimmel]

It. It was a complete. I never expected this and I just kind of assumed I would always have girls because that's all I know. Like I said, I have no guy friends. Like, I don't know other. My husband never had a man. I've never met a guy. So to have like my first boy, the first having for finding out I was having a boy for my first, that was like the most shocking one. And then immediately, like I became obsessed. And then when I got pregnant again, I really wanted a boy.

[Susie Weiss]

Yes.

[Jackie Schimmel]

So that they could be close. They're close in age. And that they could be brothers. And I just loved having like a same sex sibling. And so for this one, this was the first time I did not have a preference because if it was another boy, like iconic. I'm obsessed.

[Susie Weiss]

Yeah.

[Jackie Schimmel]

But if it was a girl, like so exciting. I finally got like my girl. But I'm so. I'm so thrilled.

[Susie Weiss]

Wow. You have a lot of kids. That's so, so exciting.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Thank you.

[Susie Weiss]

I love that.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Thank you.

[Susie Weiss]

They can't be queenies of the week yet, but do you ever do your kids as queenies?

[Jackie Schimmel]

No, no. It's usually more in the pop culture zygotes. Like. Yeah. What things that we've spoken about on the show. So those are my queenies. Your queenie is Hailey as well?

[Susie Weiss]

My queenie is Hailey. I think she. Yeah, she just really came out on top. Similar to Sydney Sweeney. I think she's just really good at being a celebrity and she's really good at giving the people what they do. She like kind of engages in the drama and like a little bit. I. She did that Vogue video where she.

[Jackie Schimmel]

So funny. Yeah.

[Susie Weiss]

Was the perfume and she was treating like. Oh, the tincture from the witch.

[Jackie Schimmel]

She pulled out a tincture and she was like, I take this every day. My dad like, took me to see a witch in the mountains when I was 12 years old, and she said if I took it every day, I would make a Canadian pop star fall in love with me. Thanks, Dad.

[Susie Weiss]

I didn't see that part. That's really, really funny. Yes. I love the way she's engaging with it.

[Jackie Schimmel]

And her Vogue cover was already queenie behavior. Even though Justin tried to, like, take a big.

[Susie Weiss]

That was.

[Jackie Schimmel]

That was so insane. I was gonna nominate him as my weenie of the week.

[Susie Weiss]

Oh.

[Jackie Schimmel]

For that.

[Susie Weiss]

Okay. For instance, your weenie of the week.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Yeah. And so I think they balance each other out. The Haley and the Justin.

[Susie Weiss]

Yeah. Sometimes your queenie and weenie, it's same story. Married to each other.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Yeah. So it's net neutral. The family's. Okay.

[Susie Weiss]

That's just like, really a theme that's coming up of, like, these successful women and these men who are sort of, like, not really flailing. I would argue a little bit that's what's happening with the Beckhams.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Which one?

[Susie Weiss]

With Nicola and Brooklyn.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Yeah. But it's not like she's any more. It's not like she just, like, achieved success.

[Susie Weiss]

That's true. But honestly, in three years, we're going to be talking about how ELF bought her cosmetic company for a billion dollars.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Nicholas.

[Susie Weiss]

Yes.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Yeah, I'd try. What she's doing.

[Susie Weiss]

She has not unlocked her full potential. Full potential.

[Jackie Schimmel]

I agree.

[Susie Weiss]

That is. Okay. So I don't know how this works. This is my first time here. Do we discuss more about the weenie?

[Jackie Schimmel]

Who's your weenie now?

[Susie Weiss]

I kind of want to say Marc Anthony.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Oh, I love that.

[Susie Weiss]

That is so lame to do at someone's wedding. Even if someone told you it was funny, it's like there's just minefields, I think, a lot in a wedding. And, like, the groom speeches and, like, people think things are funny that they're not. Or like, you see those videos of husbands smashing cake into women's face after they've got gotten like a full beat. And it's like, don't do that.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Yeah.

[Susie Weiss]

Like, it's not about you. And, like, you don't want to cause a bride to run out of the room crying.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Yeah.

[Susie Weiss]

So I think he's my weenie of the week.

[Jackie Schimmel]

That's such a good one. And I agree. Like, I can. Sometimes people could be like, something comes off wrong or they didn't mean it. They. But to say the most beautiful woman in the room and it's not the bride. Like, are you dumb?

[Susie Weiss]

Yeah.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Are you dumb? Maybe he is.

[Susie Weiss]

Maybe he is.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Maybe he's a weenie.

[Susie Weiss]

That is a true. That's true.

[Jackie Schimmel]

When you think, I love that from 23 years late. But it's never too late.

[Susie Weiss]

It's never too late to be the weenie of the week. No one's safe.

[Jackie Schimmel]

No one. No. We're going to dig it up. So thank you so much, Susie. It's been a pleasure getting to know you and co hosting with you and I appreciate it so much. Where can everyone follow? I know you're like, not on Instagram, but where can people follow you and keep up with your work?

[Susie Weiss]

This is so fun. On X. I'm at Snoozy Weiss.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Okay.

[Susie Weiss]

S N O O Z Y. I think underscore W E I S S. But mainly everyone can read my writing. I write a culture column every week. It's at the Free Press, the fp.com. i actually. Dylan, will you throw me that bag?

[Jackie Schimmel]

What do we have? Do I.

[Susie Weiss]

No other one.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Did I get a tote?

[Susie Weiss]

You, my friend. I know. It's my first podcast. I'm out here acting like Oprah. We have a tote. We have hats. I think we have onesies for Ruby or whoever.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Oh, my goodness. Let's see the size.

[Susie Weiss]

Oh, merch.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Charlie sizes.

[Susie Weiss]

Free Thinker in training.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Free Thinker training. Oh, my God. I love it.

[Susie Weiss]

Oh, my God. Thank you. So everyone could go to the fp.com and subscribe and read and join. Become a free presser. Toasters and free pressers. I think there's a lot of synergy.

[Jackie Schimmel]

I think the elk of a free presser, girly. Like, if you like things other than I. The Iran deal that you would like the toast if you want, like something fun and light hearted. And for toasters who want to learn more about the Iran deal, I think they would like the Free Press or.

[Susie Weiss]

They want to learn. Oh, look at that.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Yeah, I think there's definitely. The Venn diagram, I think is like really a circle. No, but it's not a circle. It's not. But it's like perfectly like third. Third, third, you know?

[Susie Weiss]

Yes.

[Jackie Schimmel]

That's what I think.

[Susie Weiss]

And I think there's a little bit for everyone, I think in both of our media properties.

[Jackie Schimmel]

I think so too. I think this is the crossover of the century for three free thinkers everywhere. I love my hat. I literally look so cute. Thank you so much for joining us. This has been a blast. I hope everyone has a great weekend. I will be back on Monday with another Pargie co host and we're gonna have a great time. So enjoy the weekend. I love you. Bye.