The Hardest Working Man in Hollywood with Justin Sylvester: Tuesday, November 18th, 2025

Summary

The Toast: "The Hardest Working Man in Hollywood with Justin Sylvester"

Date: November 18, 2025
Hosts: Jackie & Claudia Oshry
Guest: Justin Sylvester (TV host, podcaster, formerly “The Lady Sitter”)

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Episode Overview

This lively, celebrity-driven episode features Justin Sylvester, known as “the hardest working man in Hollywood,” in a candid and wide-ranging conversation. Jackie and Claudia delve into Justin’s career journey, TV industry gossip, balancing hustle with nightlife, and his insider take on evolving entertainment trends. Topics span his stint at "The Today Show," the fate of "Daily Pop," pop culture’s changing landscape, navigating fame and privacy, as well as current events like the Wicked premiere, Met Gala, and more. The episode also covers heartfelt advice in the “Dear Toasters” segment and closes with personal reflections and recurring comedic banter.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Justin’s Career Trajectory and the “Lady Sitter” Legacy

[00:03-01:14]

• Claudia introduces Justin as “the artist formerly known as the Lady Sitter.”
• Discussion of how “Lady Sitter” became synonymous with Justin; even AI search engines attribute the phrase to him.
• Tease of a possible show revival:
  Justin: “We’re working on a show about it right now.” [00:37]

2. Filling in at "The Today Show" and Industry Insider Thoughts

[01:26-02:48]

• Claudia posits Justin as the clear frontrunner for Hoda's replacement:
  “You’re the hardest working man in Hollywood... They still haven’t announced you as the official cohost.” [01:27–02:05]
• Justin explains why NBC is rotating big-name guest hosts and reflects on what the network seeks in morning personalities.
• Justin on diversity and bringing a fresh perspective:
  “I’m also single and younger and gay and in the streets. They need that.” [03:33]

3. Making a Mark with "Daily Pop" & the Evolution of Entertainment TV

[04:54–07:52]

• Nostalgic memories of “Daily Pop” and its cancellation due to executive turnover despite strong appeal.
• Thoughts on early-morning TV and keeping shows relatable:
  “Being interesting on TV is living your life and bringing something to the table.” [08:30]
• A missed opportunity: Daily Pop could have thrived as a digital/streaming show.

4. Showbiz Grind: Early Mornings, Social Life, and Staying “Interesting”

[07:52–09:21]

• Justin balances late-night socializing with early TV obligations:
  “Fuck that... you have not gotten out of your house, you haven’t had a dinner past 7:30...” [08:30]
• Advice from Jeff Lewis (via Justin) about reality stars:
  “When housewives quit their day job, it ruins them.” [09:21]

5. Real Housewives Longevity, Rotation, and Kyle Richards

[10:30–11:59]

• Justin proposes a presidency-like rotation for Housewives:
  “Every three years, someone siphons out and someone new comes in...” [10:44]
• Reflects on close friend Kyle Richards’ 15-year run and her difficulty stepping away.

6. Red Carpet Reporting: Names vs. Professionals

[13:22–15:59]

• Critique of networks casting celebrities as red carpet hosts rather than seasoned pros:
  “When you get said name, you need to put someone next to said name who knows how to do the job.” [13:59]
• The value of industry-insider knowledge and “hype man” dynamics.

7. On Being the Next Giuliana Rancic & Generational Shifts

[16:19–17:47]

• Claudia: “You really are this generation’s Giuliana Rancic...Is it as fun as everyone thinks?” [16:19]
• Justin: The money and glamour have changed, but personality now reigns:
  “Opinion and personality was our bread and butter...but I’m jealous as can be because they were the glory days.” [17:17]

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[Featured Topic] Wicked Movie Premiere & Insights

[24:28–25:43]

• Justin describes his interviews with Ariana Grande and Cynthia Erivo at the Wicked premiere.
• Movie review:
  “It’s a little darker, it’s a little deeper. It really is a good movie...I love the second one.” [24:59]
• Talks about his personal connection to the cast and details about seeing the movie twice.

8. Fame, Relationships, and the Need for Privacy

[26:05–27:56]

• Justin reveals he’s been in a relationship for over a year, but doesn’t share it online:
  “If you have a hot man with a job who’s over six’ one...don’t fucking tell anyone.” [26:20]
• Discussion on generational shifts in attitudes toward monogamy and privacy.
• Claudia: “Would you say you live to work or work to live?”
  Justin: “I think I live to work.” [27:59]

9. Met Gala, Amazon, and Ethics of Wealth

[32:01–37:00]

• Conversation about upcoming Met Gala, the Bezos sponsorship, and celebrity activism.
• Justin on public outrage over billionaires:
  “As long as I’m still ordering Sensodyne on fucking Amazon and it’s coming that day, I can’t be mad.” [34:24]
• Lauren Sanchez’s Hollywood role and public perception compared to Meghan Markle.

10. Meghan Markle, PR, and Celebrity Strategy

[38:06–40:42]

• How Meghan navigates celebrity (and what she could learn from a “good gay friend”):
  “She just needs exposure therapy...” [38:25]
  “The only way out is through it.” [39:58]
• Critiques Prince Harry for inadequately preparing Meghan for royal life:
  “That’s your fucking job. Go protect your wife.” [39:16]

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On balancing work and nightlife:
  “Being interesting on TV is living your life...Get the fuck out.”
  — Justin [08:30]

• On red carpet reporting:
  “Every rapper in history, there has always been a hype man.”
  — Justin [14:07]

• On celebrity privacy in relationships:
  “People magazine is going to have to cut his head off for the wedding picture.”
  — Justin [26:37]

• On celebrity public opinion & billionaires:
  “I can't have outrage about somebody whose product I still actively use.” — Justin [34:38]

• On Housewives and work-life:
  “When housewives quit their day job, they become so dependent on the show that it kind of ruins it.“
  — Justin [10:04]

• On staying fresh:
  “You need to be in charge of where and how you live.”
  — Justin advising a Dear Toaster [65:40]

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Timestamps for Important Segments

| Segment | Topic | Timestamps | |-------------------|------------------------------------------|----------------| | Introduction | Justin Sylvester, “Lady Sitter” | 00:03–01:14 | | Today Show Talk | NBC, Hoda replacement speculation | 01:26–03:42 | | Daily Pop | Career highs, digital TV | 04:54–07:52 | | Hustle vs. Nightlife | Living an interesting life | 08:26–09:21 | | Housewives & Jobs | Housewives rotation, Kyle Richards | 10:30–12:17 | | Red Carpet | Industry, celeb hosts vs. pros | 13:22–15:59 | | Wicked Premiere | Movie review, interviewing stars | 24:28–25:43 | | Love & Privacy | Relationships, social media boundaries | 26:05–27:56 | | Met Gala/Bezos | Billionaires, ethics, celeb activism | 32:01–37:00 | | Meghan Markle | Celebrity strategy, public scrutiny | 38:06–40:42 | | Cher, SNL & Pop | SNL, Cher’s career, celebrity docs | 42:33–48:21 | | Dear Toasters | Advice, relationships, life changes | 63:18–72:19 |

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Dear Toasters: Advice Segment Highlights

[63:18–72:19]

• Dilemma: Move for husband’s lucrative job despite being far from wife’s family?
  Advice:
  Justin: “Let go, honey...You lose, have you seen the news? 15x the money, take the lifestyle.” [64:11]
  Claudia: “You're doing this for him, so you say, ‘Let me be the one to choose the house and the neighborhood.’” [66:04]

• Dilemma: Surprise Venmo after a friend’s birthday dinner
  Justin: “I'm not mad at the Venmo—if the conversation happens upfront.” [67:19]

• Dilemma: Husband not sharing baby news or inviting friends to baby shower
  Justin: “Straight men are weird. Doesn't mean he doesn't care.” [69:36]

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Episode Tone & Takeaway

• Language & Feel: Unfiltered, witty, and affectionate, the tone shifts between showbiz gossip, career wisdom, and advice with inside jokes and candid, lively humor.
• For New Listeners: You'll gain a strong sense of Justin's personality, his place in Hollywood media, and how relationships and hustle shape his and the hosts’ lives. Expect hot takes on pop culture, heartfelt career stories, and honest advice.

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Connect with Justin

• Instagram: @JustinASylvester
• Podcast: The Yesterdays with Blakely Thornton (new episodes every Tuesday)

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Transcript

[A]

Good morning, girlies. It's the Toast. It's Jackson Claude, and we're your host. It's your favorite show, the best five things you need to know. We'll start your day off Swirly. It's the Toast. They sound amazing. Welcome back to the Toast and happy Tuesday. I'm ready to be sat on because my next co host is the artist formerly known the Lady Sitter. It's Justin Sylvester. Hello.

[B]

I'm gonna bring that back.

[A]

You better.

[B]

I'm bringing that back. We were working on a show about it right now.

[A]

Are you? Yeah, the Lady Sitter. Like, if you weren't there for the lady Sitter era, you guys were missing out so hard you were sitting on ladies. Myself being one of them.

[B]

Crazy, right? We met on a ladysitter excursion.

[A]

We did.

[B]

We literally met with a bunch of bougie white women.

[A]

Do you know that when you Google lady Sitter? Because I actually did this morning to. I was going to do a clue. You know, I've been doing these, like, clues for who my guess is, and I ended up doing something about the Today show, which I want to talk to you about in a second. But I was going to do something about the Ladysitter and Google Gemini says the lady sitter is a phrase coined by Justin A. Sylvester.

[B]

Bro, give it to me.

[A]

They did.

[B]

Someone give it to me.

[A]

I love that you're wearing your Alphabet green. So am I. New Merch drops tomorrow, 10am that's cute. You're coming straight off the Wicked premiere. Yeah, straight off of the Today Show. We talk about you so much on the toast. I don't know if you know how much we talk about you. One, because we love you.

[B]

I love you guys, too.

[A]

You're the hardest working man in Hollywood. Like, for real, bitch. And it seems like something is. Something's bothering me. Let me say that. It seemed very obvious to me, but I'm smarter than most people. So when Hoda said, I'm leaving this show, my. My thought that minute was like, okay, Justin Sylvester's time now. NBC said we're gonna do guests and schmests and whatever. I don't think anybody expected this guest thing, Jenna. And for now, almost a year. Yeah, you've come on. I mean, since Jenna and Friends, how many times have you filled in for Hoda?

[B]

Oh, I think five times.

[A]

Right. Like, you're clearly a front runner, Hoda. Actually, Andy asked Hoda on Watch what happens live, who do you want it to be? And she said, you. Like, she gave you her approval she passed the baton. And they still haven't announced you as the official co host. They still are doing Jenna and Friends, like, please give us an update. The toasters, like, we are dying. It's. It's your job to lose.

[B]

Like, you know, it's so interesting, you know, when I look at that show, a. I want it, and it would be a great gig for me, and I see everything that you're seeing, and I saw when Hoda said it. But from a producer standpoint, I'm also looking at it and being like, wow, she's getting Scarlett Johansson, Olivia Munn. Like, Michelle Obama. Like, of course.

[A]

Never mind. But Michelle Obama's not gonna show up at 6am every day. You are.

[B]

I will. But it's so interesting and amazing to see how many people really wanna live out that fantasy week here or three days here. So I think for them, they're going to see, like, how long this could.

[A]

Go and how many. They're still getting a list talent.

[B]

Yeah. Yeah. You know, it's. It's crazy. I don't know if I might be too spicy for the Today show.

[A]

No way. You're literally perfect for it. You are perfect for it. Like, your former life as the ladysitter literally led you to this moment.

[B]

Oh, 1,000%.

[A]

It's so you.

[B]

1,000%. But I think if you look at, like, today's show talent, they're safe, they're wholesome. They are.

[A]

You are, by the way.

[B]

No, I am. But I'm also single and younger and gay and in the streets, they need that. And I think I bring something very different.

[A]

Absolutely.

[B]

You know, I often look at Gayle and I think to myself, even though Gayle's older, Gail's out in the streets.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Gayle's at parties. Gayle knows people.

[A]

She was at that Kris Jenner party.

[B]

She was at Kris Jenner party. She went to space.

[A]

Oh, right.

[B]

She was at the Bezos wedding.

[A]

Correct.

[B]

Oprah's now her plus one.

[A]

So true.

[B]

Gayle is out there. Gayle's making connections. People want to sit with Gayle. It's like, you know, it's all coming up Gayle. It's all coming up Gayle. And at some point, Gayle's going to be like, I'm done.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You know, so I just am hoping that NBC gives me the space to be culturally that person.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Because we don't really have, like. And I say this, like, very lightly, like, you know, when people say, I fuck with you, you know, everyone fucks with Gayle.

[A]

Yeah. It's true. She's universally loved, which in this climate is so hard.

[B]

So hard. So goddamn hard. But I don't know, maybe it's this round, maybe it's in five years, but it's. Something is brewing, and I feel it.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And my little Scorpio spidey senses tell me, like, if it's not this, it's gonna be something else.

[A]

Yeah, of course. No, you've always, like. Everything you've done has been amazing. When we, like, I think we thought, like, for a minute, like, Daily Pop was. It was gonna be. It was. It. And when that ended, we were like, wait, wait. And it was so just, like, a stepping stone for you. Daily Pop was everything.

[B]

Bitch, I want that show back.

[A]

Those were the days. Like, I don't know why E couldn't sustain it, because the show itself was brilliant. When it was you, Morgan and Carissa, like, it was perfection. And it was what people like me, the people who listen to the show. It's what we love. It's what we need. It's talking seriously about, not serious things like it. I don't know how they dropped the ball on that.

[B]

You know what it is, I think, for a company like E, and I say this respectfully, because I have learned. I've been there for 10 years. I think when. When you are brought in by one executive and then another executive wants to come in, they want to put their shows on air. They want to put their people on air, and what they do is they kind of kick your show to side. And that show really did its thing. Although we went through three executive changes, five years on air every morning was. I mean, it was lit.

[A]

No, it was iconic.

[B]

It was so good.

[A]

Career highlight for me was being a guest on that show. It was huge.

[B]

We had the best sign.

[A]

Oh, we did. And it was so skinny.

[B]

And it's. Oh, you were snatched.

[A]

One pound, half a pound.

[B]

Snatch.

[A]

Snatch.

[B]

And by the way, people still come up to me today and they're like, oh, my God, Daily Pop. Right?

[A]

And it's.

[B]

It's interesting because now everyone is looking for shows that can be on. On.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You know, digital.

[A]

Yep. Which was Daily Pop. Daily should have been. Maybe it was a little early for its time because it should have been the official, like, Daily show of Peacock.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Oh, my God.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

That would have been.

[A]

And then you wouldn't have been, like, confined by, like, the cable things. You could curse. No commercial breaks. Like you would have.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Honestly, bring back Daily Pop on Peacock. Free idea. Free.

[B]

They really should A thousand. They really should, you know, it's so crazy. I bet you Morgan Stewart, I would give that bitch a. At a. She would do it and she would just come back. She would do it swinging. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 100%.

[A]

If it was on Peacock and it was like premium. She would do it.

[B]

She would do it. She would totally do it.

[A]

And I think Chris, who would too.

[B]

I think she would too, because they.

[A]

Had bopped people in and out. But you, Chris and Morgan for a while were like the three.

[B]

Yeah. Until they started having kids.

[A]

Right.

[B]

And then it was maternity leave central.

[A]

Literally.

[B]

Literally. Maternity leave central.

[A]

Yes. But that really was like, the three of you was really. It was magic.

[B]

It really was magic. And you know, the funny thing about that show is everyone laughs because our first call was at 5am oh wow. 5:30. I would get up and do the 5am call to make sure the show was intact. Then all the girls would get on calls at 6 o'. Clock. They would get the show rundown and then I would get back on a call at 6:30 to talk about what they didn't like and what they did like. So every day for five years we went 3:65. We took barely any days off. I was on those phone calls making sure like people like us enjoyed the show.

[A]

Now what's so funny about you is like, for the most part, you do a lot of TV and most of it occurs very early in the morning.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And some of my favorite memories and so much of the things that we do together is like, we go out, we cocktail, we party. And I love your commitment to not letting your early mornings ruin your late nights. Fuck that. And when you watch, when somebody watches you on tv, they would never know that you were out the night before. Like, how do you balance? Because most people wake up at like 7 for their jobs. You've had a full day by 7am today show, Daily Pop. That's all like 4 or 5am how do you balance a good, well maintained social life which occurs at night.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

With hustling in your career so early on in the mornings.

[B]

First and foremost, you got to live your life like that's what it's all about. And being interesting on TV doesn't mean going to bed at 7:30 and, you know, making sure you're up early. Like being interesting on TV is living your life and bringing something to the table. And that's why I feel like when I listen to podcasters or I watch people on Social, I'm like, you have not gotten out of your House, you haven't had a dinner past 7:30 in a very long time. Like, get the fuck out.

[A]

I feel like you're speaking directly to me, but, like, I am still freshly postpartum. I love a dinner after 7.

[B]

No, it's okay.

[A]

I know what you mean. But I think some people feel like they have to be, like, 100% committed to the job for it to succeed and for it to take off. And that means going to bed at seven. But if you're trying to be interesting and you're trying to, like, you know, share what you've got going on, you gotta. You've gotta have something going on.

[B]

I literally just had this aha moment. Jeff Lewis and I were having this conversation, and he said it at BravoCon too. He said, when housewives quit their day job, it ruins them.

[A]

Oh, well, absolutely. And then it also puts them in a really tough spot financially because they rely so much on this thing that could be taken away from them at any minute.

[B]

And also, when you don't have a day job, you have nothing to come to the table with. You know what I mean? Like, imagine we watch Vicky scream at employees at Coto Insurance answering those white phones like it was 1987 and she worked at MCI with one man. Like, that's what it was all about, you know.

[A]

True. The landline.

[B]

The landline. And, you know, he said this, and it made total fucking sense. When these housewives quit their day jobs, they only. They become so dependent on the show that it kind of ruins it.

[A]

Absolutely. And they're not just, like, giving. What I find most interesting about Housewives is like learning just how, you know, the other half lives. Like seeing the lives of these very famous, very wealthy, very interesting women. And so when the show becomes their whole life, they stop becoming interesting to me. Honestly.

[B]

No. 100%. I also think. And Bravo's gonna kill me for this. I think Housewives should be like a presidential run. Wow.

[A]

Okay. Elaborate.

[B]

Like four years, for instance. I think that every two or three years, if I were Bravo, I would have eight people on staff. I would have six housewives, you know, in the middle, two friends holding it down. Every three years, someone siphons out and someone new comes in, whether it's a housewife or a friend. And then in another year, the person who went live for a year or two comes back in. And then someone else takes a break, goes and lives for a year. Get a Bob. Meet some new friends.

[A]

Get a Bob.

[B]

Just go get a Bob.

[A]

Get a Bob.

[B]

But not a Nicole Bob. From selling Sunset, Just get a Bob.

[A]

Just a regular Bob.

[B]

Just a regular Bob. That Bob turned her into a whole different person.

[A]

That's so funny. You know what? That's actually a really good call. I mean. And one of your best friends in the whole world is Kyle Richards, who has famously been on the Real Housewives.

[B]

Of Beverly Hills for 15 years.

[A]

15 years.

[B]

15 years.

[A]

She probably could have benefited from a year off every now and then, by the way.

[B]

I think she's tried to take one.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I think she has tried her hardest to be like, I will take a year off. Like, let me leave right now.

[A]

But I think. I think they're afraid of getting off the hamster wheel. Like, worried if they get off, they won't come back.

[B]

I don't think that's it for her. I think what it is for her, and I know this for a fact, she's a child star.

[A]

Right? Right.

[B]

And when she starts something, this was her. This is, though, her way of life for a very long time. You committed to it. And I think, because she started the show from day one. And she's the last og, I think.

[A]

Is she the last. Yeah, her.

[B]

She's the last og.

[A]

Jersey's, like, off air, so.

[B]

Yeah, she's the last og. So she, in her mind, knows that this is her baby and she can't leave it. So that's. I think that's her heart. The rock between the hot rock and a hard place with her.

[A]

I've loved seeing you on Housewives over the years. You've really kind of just been a man about town on lots of shows. Last night, you were literally coming straight from the Wicked premiere, which we're gonna talk about. It's our top story interviewing, you know, everyone, including Ari and Cynthia, even though Cynthia was in her very much muted moment. Do you like doing, like, your job entails so many things, and I feel like you're at your best when you're just sitting like this. Jenna and Fred's kiki. Ing. You're so funny. You've so interesting. Your life is very interesting. I wanna ask you about who you're. But you also are so good at red carpet. And red carpet has gotten kind of criticized over the last couple of years because a lot of networks will just kind of pluck people who aren't reporters, influencers, actors, and just sort of throw them on a red carpet. And it's resulted in so many sort of yikes, but clenching moments. Hugh Grant, what do you make of that conversation?

[B]

Here's my jam. And I'M going to say this because I know a lot of networks. There are people who work inside those networks that listen to this podcast.

[A]

We've gotten the media girlies.

[B]

Yeah. First of all, I understand. I've been in this game for 10 years. Plus, I know you want a name.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I know that you think getting somebody who is a name is going to rock this world, and that's okay. If that's your play, let's do it. However, when you get said name, you just need to put someone next to said name who knows how to do.

[A]

The job, to supplement.

[B]

To supplement.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And by the way, we don't cost as much as said name. Okay. No, no, because it's like.

[A]

You know what I mean? Because it's all about budget.

[B]

It's all about budget. And they're like, oh, we have this name. We have this name. Sometimes you need to let somebody come in and like, it's. If you look at every rapper, Steer the ship, every rapper in history, there has always been a hype man. That hype man keeps that person on beat, keeps that person to know what song's coming on, gets the crowd going so that that person can do their job.

[A]

I love that.

[B]

You always need a hype man. The other thing is, a lot of times these companies get these names and they produce them as if they're host. And when I'm a TV host, if you say, okay, remember this, this, this, you go from here to there. It's a lot of things to remember, but my mind just clicks them in because I've been doing this for. Yeah, I've been in the trenches. You know, some of these names don't know that this person has a dry sense of humor. Some people don't know that this person, like, it's egos.

[A]

It's a lot.

[B]

It's egos. Some stars don't like to talk to other women. We know those people. So I, you know, run, you know, run. Game on there.

[A]

It's like high school.

[B]

It's like high school, but it's also like. It's like cooking. Like, you can't just follow one recipe because everybody has their own different things. And if you don't have somebody who knows that or who's talked to people in the trenches because, you know, I met Kelty on a red carpet, right, 12 years ago, and she leans over and whispers and says, oh, by the way, just FYI, she and her husband are going through a hard thing. So, like, don't mention the husband or the kids, because, like, it's a bad thing right now. And I'm like, I'm back. Thank you so much. But she worked at another network.

[A]

It's a great story. Right? That was when she was at, like, E.T.

[B]

Right? And we passed it down. That's how we've gone through life. Those people, those names, they don't have that passed down information.

[A]

No. You've been hardened. Like, you've done it a million times. You know what's so funny? So Jackie and I always talk about, like, when we were growing up, every bitch. Like, when you ask them what they want it to be, they're like, I want to be the next Julianna Rancic. When I was, like, my first day in college, I was a media major, they go around and it was all women, and they were like, what do you want to be every bitch. Julian Rancic.

[B]

Julian Rancic.

[A]

And you really are this generation's Giuliana Rancic. So I want to ask you for all the girls who wanted to grow up and be the next Giuliana Rancic. You are. Is it as good as fun as everybody thinks it would be?

[B]

No. Giuliana took the money.

[A]

Oh, yeah, she did.

[B]

Giuliana took the last of the E budget and fucking ran. She and Ryan. Carson Daly had a really good run, and he was by himself. And then after Carson Daly, there was this throng of people. Juliana, Ryan Seacrest, Jason Kennedy. Jason Kennedy, Cat Sadler. Like, they were the Victoria's Secret Angels.

[A]

So true.

[B]

Fucking broadcast.

[A]

Yes. Pop culture broadcast. Fun, easy, light broadcast.

[B]

Yes. And it was also in a time Billy Bush. Yes. People had cash, people had money, so they lived a whole different life.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

When we came in, it was like, okay, we're gonna try to do this on a budget and yada, yada, yada.

[A]

Y.

[B]

Everyone's young and listen, the money is not as great, but what I will say that we did that. I think they never really got into. Juliana did a lot. But opinion and personality was our bread and butter, and we did it and made it different in a different kind of way. But I still look at Jason and the Julianas and the Ryan Seacrest and the Carson Daly's, and I'm jealous as can be because they were at the glory days.

[A]

Yeah. It was a golden age of entertainment journalism. A thousand percent.

[B]

You couldn't like Carson Daly, like, you couldn't fuck with anyone else.

[A]

Oh, my God. Those were the days.

[B]

Kurt Loder. Carson Daly knew everyone and everything.

[A]

That's so crazy.

[B]

It's crazy.

[A]

And he's still out here killing it Hosting the Voice. Oh, and shout out to Carson Daly. Was he on the TV show? Love that. Now, Justin, you're here to join me on a very special day. It's Tuesday. We're coming up the heels of the Wicked premiere. We have a lot to talk about. You were actually there interviewing everyone. And it's also Tuesday, which means we do Dear Toasters, our weekly advice segment. You're gonna help me out because the girlies are in need.

[B]

Okay, let's do it.

[A]

Let's dive in. Justin, I have a question for you. Are you ready for the Fast 5 stories?

[B]

Let's do it.

[A]

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[B]

I worked for Universal. This is a Universal movie. So they had no choice, so they gave me one. And I've interviewed them a bunch of times and they know me and we just were like, come on, let's do it. And they did it and it was amazing.

[A]

And what sort of nuggets of information did they give you that you can share with us? And did you see the movie? Did you stay for the actual screening?

[B]

Have you not seen the movie? No, I've seen it twice.

[A]

Wait, is it even out yet?

[B]

No, it's a different bitch.

[A]

Is it?

[B]

It's a whole different beast.

[A]

How long is it?

[B]

It's not as long as the first one, but it's a totally different movie.

[A]

Really. It's a total.

[B]

It's a little darker, it's a little deeper. Yeah, it's kind of sad. It. It really is a good movie.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[B]

And I thought I liked the first one. I love the second one. Really love the second one.

[A]

Like a comet pulled for more bit. I wish I wore pink today. As it passes, you feel like you're more of an Alphabet or more of a Glinda. I feel like everybody thinks they're an alphaba, but when the time comes, everyone's a Glinda, Everyone's.

[B]

Everyone out.

[A]

Okay. So, like, I actually think it's so funny. Jackie and I were having this conversation about, like, our RealPhabas are GL and, like, I'm an Alpha. I'm actually really not.

[B]

Someone told me, and I'm not talking.

[A]

About aesthetics, like, I'm talking about, like, ethics.

[B]

Someone told me the other day, you live in a bubble.

[A]

Glinda.

[B]

You're Glinda.

[A]

Love that.

[B]

I'm like, wait, you're right. It's Glinda.

[A]

So you said, like, it's amazing. The movie.

[B]

Oh, it's incredible. And by the way, I don't see movies twice. That's not my jam.

[A]

When did you see it first?

[B]

I saw it two weeks ago, and then I saw it again at a screening.

[A]

Got it.

[B]

And I was like, I had plans after the screening. I was gonna go, like, to dinner with a friend. And then after, I was like, I think I'm sad.

[A]

Oh, I think I'll go home.

[B]

I don't think I could go.

[A]

Wait, Speaking of dinner with a friend. Was it a dinner with a friend who's a man and a boyfriend?

[B]

No. But I did bring him to the screening.

[A]

So you are seeing someone?

[B]

I've been with him for a year and two months.

[A]

And you don't share him online?

[B]

I do not share him online.

[A]

Talk me through your decision.

[B]

I think gay men are pretty wild.

[A]

Interesting.

[B]

If you have a hot man with a job who's over six' one.

[A]

Don't tell anyone.

[B]

Don't fucking tell anyone. At this point, I'm just like, I don't trust any bitch out there. You know what I mean? Like, the amount of times I have slid in people's DMs in my 20s who have.

[A]

Not respecting boundaries.

[B]

Not respecting boundaries. And I'm sorry. And I know that's my karma probably coming back for me, but I am never showing you this, man. People magazine is going to have to cut his head off for the wedding picture. For the wedding photo.

[A]

Do you feel like, like, the gay community is worse about that than the straight community when it comes to.

[B]

No, no, no, no, no.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

No, no, no, no. I think that they're equal opportunists.

[A]

Yeah, I agree. Because, you know, a young, hot thing, a little, little girl, she can.

[B]

Oh, my God. We hear about it all the time. Hello, Jezebel. I don't know what it is. I think this, like, Twitter only fans.

[A]

I think this generation, for sure, like, respects monogamy, like, way less. It used to be such a big Deal.

[B]

It used to be such a big deal.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

But I also think that people, it's. It's like, such a weird thing because everyone's like, when are you gonna show your man? When are you gonna show your man? I'm like, I don't. I don't really know. I might be like Dolly Parton.

[A]

Right? Never.

[B]

Never.

[A]

What does your man make of your job?

[B]

He loves it. He's super supportive. He does not. He's in the hotel business.

[A]

Okay. So totally different.

[B]

100% different. He just thinks it's interesting that I hustle like this.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Whereas he goes to work and comes home. And comes home.

[A]

Yeah. That's actually such an interesting, like, parallel between people who like, work to live and people who live to work. Yeah, that's really interesting. Would you say you live to work or you work to live?

[B]

I think I live to work.

[A]

I think you do too.

[B]

I live to work. And I hate to say that because I hate being this broke.

[A]

Right, right.

[B]

Because I just want to chill. I know, but I feel like I'm 39. I've accepted it. I've gone to therapy about turning 39.

[A]

You have literally done so much at 39.

[B]

But I feel like I want that one thing that I can sit on for, like, 15 years. Okay.

[A]

You were literally just saying that, like, in your job, like, I feel like your age and entering your 40s will only benefit you. A network would be, like, more comfortable giving the job of hoda to a 40 year old than a 30 year old.

[B]

No, I think you're absolutely correct.

[A]

So you should start telling people you're 40. Like, if you want that job, maybe.

[B]

I should post, like, Happy 40th Bobby and his. Because he has a daughter.

[A]

Yeah. Oh, no way.

[B]

So I'm like, oh, I'm a stepmom.

[A]

Oh, my God. We need to talk about you being a stepmom. Kind of a dream.

[B]

Am I? I was a step mom. I know. And the kid's so good.

[A]

Oh, my God. Wait. That's so cute.

[B]

She's blonde and adorable.

[A]

Do you want to have kids?

[B]

You know, I said I didn't have kids by 42 if I didn't beat someone who was, like, ready to do it by 42. I was gonna do it by myself, but honestly, I'm kind of fulfilled.

[A]

Yeah. Like, that's kind of perfect.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Wait, Slap.

[B]

I know, right?

[A]

You interviewed everybody else from Wicked too, right? I saw you with Jonathan Bailey, Jeff Goldblum, Michelle Jon M. Chu. Tell me. Tell me what you think. And did you see Ethan Slater?

[B]

I saw Ethan Slater.

[A]

With Ari or without?

[B]

Without.

[A]

What do you make of that?

[B]

I kind of love him.

[A]

You do?

[B]

I kind of love the sensitive Broadway type kind of dude.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Who's like a real actor, who's like.

[A]

Unexpected choice.

[B]

Unexpected choice. Like, every time I see him, I'm more and more impressed and attracted to him.

[A]

That's extremely interesting. I maybe could get on board if I could get past the circumstances of them coming together. You know what I mean? The timeline was a little. Little curious, by the way.

[B]

I think everything happens for a reason at this point. And like, you know what? If you're doing your thing and I'm doing my thing, I feel the same way about Justin Trudeau and Katy Perry.

[A]

Okay. So I actually like them.

[B]

I love it. Yeah. Okay. I'm here for it.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

However, if I was that Canadian wife.

[A]

Oh, of course.

[B]

I would be on a rocket ship to LA to talk about it.

[A]

Well, you've actually seen in person the Ari, Cynthia, them interacting in person. I think the Internet has a lot to say about the closeness, the protectiveness, the kind of weird nature of a lot of their interactions. But you've seen it in person.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

What do you make of it? Does it come off as weird in person?

[B]

Let me tell you what. What if you had any doubts that these two people are as close as they are.

[A]

Right.

[B]

Google Ariana fan, Singapore.

[A]

Oh, yeah, of course. We talked about it last week.

[B]

The way Cynthia Arivo, in a vintage John Galliano gown, steps in front of Ariana Grande without second guessing one thing.

[A]

Forgetting that she too, is a huge famous entity.

[B]

And a Polly Pocket.

[A]

Oh, yeah. Seriously. Skinny as a needle.

[B]

So when she sees this person coming, she looks up, puts herself in between Ariana and by the way, there are seven security guards around them. She could have been like, I'm not gonna fuck this dress up. The way she pulled a Solange in the elevator on this man. That's when you know these people are close. Because if they were not close, she would have took her dress, moved over to the left.

[A]

Right. And let her.

[B]

This is not my mess.

[A]

That's so true.

[B]

This is somebody else's job.

[A]

No, it's very. I feel it's genuine.

[B]

It's genuine.

[A]

I just think it's a little like much. But who am I?

[B]

It's genuine.

[A]

Who am I to say?

[B]

Yeah, but sometimes I'm like, it might be much, but for them, it's like, it's working. It works.

[A]

So true.

[B]

You also don't forget Ariana is a Global superstar, right? Most global superstars don't like to leave the house because they can't.

[A]

Especially global superstars who have been through sort of the trauma that Ari has been through.

[B]

Yes. So when you are with someone who has probably expressed to you that, oh, my God, this is so traumatic for me, you know, I've been through this thing in the UK and I don't know, it's so scary. Yes. I'm holding onto my costar for Dear Life because you guys don't realize that she is in Flight or Fight, and it's hard for her to be here.

[A]

Right.

[B]

So I'm gonna have my hand on this person, on her finger. On her finger at all times.

[A]

At all times.

[B]

I'm gonna hold space for no one but her.

[A]

Now another big New York event, the Met Gala. They've released their theme.

[B]

I love it.

[A]

And the exhibit. And everyone's talking about it, but not the theme. So on Monday, the Met revealed that the theme for its spring exhibition and then the Star Studded fundraiser, is costume art, said to examine the centrality of the dressed body. So the show will pair approximately 200 garments and accessories with 200 artwork spanning from the Western prehistory, yada, yada. Now, in the announcement, everybody was like, freaking. Cause if you go down, it shows Lauren and Jeff Bezos as the sponsors. So I think it's safe to say we will be seeing them at the Met Gala. Everyone now thinks that this is some sort of explanation for Lauren's wedding Vogue cover, of course. And people are freaking, you know, because they say, like, celebrities are so, you know, holier than thou. Will they all attend an event by the Bezos, who are like, these billionaires, and we're supposed to, like, hate all the billionaires and it's consumerism, yada, yada.

[B]

They're all going.

[A]

They're all going. Do you think we will see people using their outfits to make a statement, like, against the Bezos, even though, like, it seems like the Bezos are in, like, they've been accepted in ways other billionaires have not. And that's all Lauren.

[B]

This is the most interesting conversation I have. Have a podcast called the Yesterdays, and my podcast host, Blakely Thornton, who I love, hates them.

[A]

Really? For what reason?

[B]

I think he doesn't like them for the. For the usual.

[A]

But the ethical. Like a lot of people, if you take a look at Amazon, the digital footprint, the billionaire, ethical billionaires, I don't like to go down that rab rabbit hole. I prefer to just be jealous of billionaires.

[B]

Here's my jam. As long as I'm still ordering Sensodyne on fucking Amazon.

[A]

And it's coming that day.

[B]

And it's coming that day.

[A]

That's exactly what I said to Jackie. Amazon has improved my life and on a daily basis, continues to benefit me. Seriously, I can't be mad.

[B]

I can't be mad at people like that. I can't have outrage about somebody whose product I still actively use.

[A]

Agreed.

[B]

Target, on the other hand. Agreed. I can have outrage about. Agreed. Because I don't want to walk in there anymore. Agreed.

[A]

Agreed.

[B]

I'm done agreeing. So when it comes to the Bezos, like, you really have to sit back and examine why you are upset. Lauren Sanchez did something that we would all do. If Jeff Bezos had put his hand on my shoulder when he was single and I was single, guess what? I would have had a $25 million wedding in Venice, too.

[A]

And so when Bethany was on the podcast last week, she said the most. I haven't been able to stop thinking about it. She had the most poignant thing about Lauren. What?

[B]

I saw it.

[A]

Yeah. About that Meghan Markle.

[B]

Meghan Markle?

[A]

Yeah, Meghan Markle. Lauren Sanchez is Meghan Markle with. No. Like, she married this guy with enormous access, obviously. Different things. You know, Bezos has more of the money. Harry has more of the prestige, and Meghan. There's so many rules with royalty, and there's so many rules that I think Meghan imposes on herself because she wants, you know, she carefully curates what people think about her. Lawrence Hitches doesn't give a flying fuck what anybody thinks about her. She knew what the money could get her. She knew what the access could give to her, and she just doesn't give a fuck. And you know what? It's amazing to see the two parallel paths of these two different women. 100% and where it's gotten them.

[B]

100%.

[A]

Because I feel like people started out really not liking Lauren Sanchez, and now everybody's kind of come around to her. People started out really liking Meghan Markle, and now I feel like her Q score has gone down.

[B]

Oh, 100%. And it's. You know what's crazy is Lauren Santrez is a very nice woman. I've had her three times. Oh, yeah? Yeah.

[A]

Is she, like, a party girl?

[B]

She was.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

She's in the White lady crew. She is like, White Lady.

[A]

She's in the White lady crew. Yeah.

[B]

She's like, one step out of the White lady crew.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Right. So we have, you know, hung out with her. She's always very sweet, always nice. And this was back when she was married to Patrick Weitzel. Oh. Who was the CEO of wme. So Patrick Woel was like a major agent in Hollywood, but she wasn't a nobody before. She wasn't a nobody.

[A]

You might not have heard of her, Me included. That doesn't mean she wasn't like a mover and a shaker.

[B]

Her husband was behind the scenes.

[A]

Got it.

[B]

So when she met Jeff Bezos, who's more front facing. Who's more front facing, you know, she kind of escorted him into this celebrity lifestyle. And when people say, oh, she has an easy life, she definitely has an easy life. But she's working now. Like, this bitch is working.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

She's getting this man out and about, out in front and center. And I just. I don't know. I'm not hating on them outwardly because I feel like everyone's hating on them.

[A]

They're so unoriginal. Like, I'm sorry, you know what? Like, you would do it too. You would do it too.

[B]

Still using Amazon.

[A]

Of course I am. Have you done red carpet at the Met gala where you stand on the stairs?

[B]

No.

[A]

Is that like a goal of yours?

[B]

No.

[A]

It looks really hard.

[B]

I don't want to do it.

[A]

And nobody wants to talk to you. Like, it's really not that type of carpet.

[B]

No, I don't want to.

[A]

Interesting.

[B]

What I would want to do is where Vogue has that top staircase where everybody talks.

[A]

Oh. And it's like a Vogue YouTube where Emma Chamberlain.

[B]

That's what I want to do.

[A]

LA Anthony, you would be excellent.

[B]

That's what I want to do.

[A]

Give him the job.

[B]

Give him the job.

[A]

Whenever Jackie and I are, like, talking about, like, oh, who should do like this? We're always suggesting you because you really are this sort of chameleon. I think you would be excellent.

[B]

I would murder it.

[A]

You would murder it. And I do think that a lot of celebrities know you or recognize your face and feel comfortable talking to you. And that's really what it is at the Met Gal. And that's why Lala Anthony was so good. Good. She's friends with everyone. She was happy to come up and talk to her. They didn't skip her.

[B]

She knows everybody.

[A]

She knows everybody. And then the young people, they all know Emma Chamberlain, so they do a good job actually picking people who might not be traditional.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Hosts. But I would love to see you at the top of the stairs.

[B]

And the Chamberlain girl does a really Good job.

[A]

She does a great job. And you know, she's very tick tocky. That's the game. You got to play it all. You got to play it.

[B]

You got to play it all.

[A]

But I would love to see you.

[B]

Meghan Markle needs a new gay.

[A]

Do you. Oh, wait. But first of all, do you think Meghan Markle would go is going to the Met gal. And I don't know why she hasn't gone. It's very her.

[B]

I think now that we have seen her at the Balenciaga and then at Kris Jenner's, I think this is a preview of what's to come.

[A]

It's only a matter of time.

[B]

I think for her she needs exposure therapy.

[A]

Yeah, she's definitely like petrified.

[B]

Yeah, she's very skittish. By the way, Meghan Markle, I understand why I am with you. I get it, girl. Like being the only black person in the royal family could be. I love it.

[A]

Could not have been fun.

[B]

Yeah. I stood by that a thousand times. I thought maybe you should have stayed two more years. But it's okay.

[A]

So funny. I actually agree only because I think while it probably would have been really hard for her and I didn't want her to go through that. I think if she had stuck it out and made it out on the other side, it would have been this amazing thing to see this like American divorced black woman. I wish. I'm like mad at the potential. And I blame him. I know the toasters can't hear me talk about this anymore, but just so you know, I blame it not working out on Prince Harry. And I think he is the worst person in the world. And I think he didn't protect his wife at all. Not to say that the Royal family was amazing to her.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

But he did not prepare his wife at all. For what? The assumption that his family would just take care of, get her the wardrobe, get her. That's your fucking job. Like, go protect your wife. He just sent her out to go meet the Queen without telling her how to curtsy.

[B]

No, no, please. I just don't think they. They know. I bet you he got out and didn't know how to even make an easy man.

[A]

Yeah. Oh, for sure.

[B]

You know what I mean? Like, how are you gonna set somebody up when you couldn' yourself up your whole goddamn life?

[A]

Right.

[B]

But I think Meghan Markle a needs a gay who's going to be like, listen, bitch, you're going to get some hard times. Like this is going to be hard. Like they are Going to make fun of you for six minutes. It happens to everybody.

[A]

It does.

[B]

Look at JLo. When you get to that echelon, Katy Perry. You just got to go through the rough patch. You got to run through it, get some mud in your hair.

[A]

The only way out is through it.

[B]

Because if you go back, you look.

[A]

Like it makes it so much worse. No, no, no, no.

[B]

If you go back and retreat, you start over from the beginning.

[A]

So true.

[B]

So what I need you to do is realize that people, like, all's fair, people are talking shit about it, but people are watching it.

[A]

Yep.

[B]

Including myself.

[A]

And they're leaning into, like, the jokes.

[B]

And they're leaning into it. You just need to lean into yourself. And I thought she was almost there when she did the Gwyneth Paltrow thing.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I was like, oh, she's doing it. Yes.

[A]

She knows she wasn't.

[B]

And then she retreated back. You just got to run through it. You got to run through it. But I think she'll be in the.

[A]

Main event you do this year.

[B]

I think she'll be with Balenciaga.

[A]

I would love to see her there.

[B]

She's going to do it. I'm still kind of confused on why they ripped the photos down.

[A]

Oh, me too. Me and Bethany were talking about. I talk about it with every person who comes on the show. Like, do you have a theory? Because my running theory is that because, you know, the photos were removed from the carousel. And then Prince Harry and Meghan's team released a statement saying, you know, we didn't sign the consent forms. And then the Kardashians camp said, what are you talking about? There were no consent forms for photos.

[B]

It was a birthday party.

[A]

Right Now, I think they were filming the birthday party for the show. You have to sign a release. Meghan and Harry didn't sign it because they don't want to be on the show, which is totally understandable. And I think they thought that would protect them from images. I think they just, in a shallow sense, did not like the photo. You could see Harry's bald spot. Like, I think it was more of a shallow thing.

[B]

Well, this is the problem again. Yeah, Right.

[A]

Lean in. Just be human.

[B]

Yeah, you're there, bitch.

[A]

Who doesn't have a bald spot?

[B]

Beyonce's there, babe.

[A]

Now start talking neutrophil like, Beyonce was there. You have no excuse.

[B]

You have no excuse. She took the photo.

[A]

And the thing is, Beyonce was at the party. And we only know that because. Not because we saw a photo of her. So Beyonce evaded Paparazzi which means if you wanted to go to the party and not be seen by the public, you could have done that. Because Beyonce did it. Meghan and Harry chose to get out of the car in front of the paparazzi. They wanted to be seen, and they wanted people to know that they were there.

[B]

It's a control thing.

[A]

Yeah. Which of which they are just not doing a good job.

[B]

But I. I keep on going back to this is. She could be that bitch.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

She really could. Like, she could be that. I just want one meeting with her.

[A]

I know.

[B]

I want one weekend. I want one weekend. I'm gonna come to Montecito. We're gonna cook a little bit. We're not gonna. We're gonna get to know each other on Friday. On Saturday, we're gonna rent a room at San Ysidro Ranch and we're gonna talk it out.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And we're gonna get rough.

[A]

Yep.

[B]

And we're gonna get tough.

[A]

It's not gonna be pretty.

[B]

It's not gonna be pretty much. But then on Sunday, we're gonna go back to Harry. We're gonna tell him what we came up with.

[A]

Deep breaths.

[B]

Deep breaths. And we're gonna stay in each other's lives.

[A]

I love that. We're gonna stain each other's lives.

[B]

She needs a gay.

[A]

Absolutely. Our third story is that Cher is returning to snl. She's gonna be the musical guest in December. And it is the first time in nearly 40 years that she is returning to the SNL stage. The Grammy winner is set to be the musical guest on December 20's episode of the long running NBC sketch show. And they announced on Monday the final host and musical guest for 2025, Ariana Grande, is hosting the episode that Cher. Yeah, that's pretty major.

[B]

Get ready.

[A]

Yeah. You know what I watched last night? The Eddie Murphy documentary.

[B]

Oh, Everyone says it's great.

[A]

Oh, my God. It was so excellent. Like, and Ben is a huge Eddie Murphy fan. I love Shrek. Like, I'm not. I wouldn't like if you said, my. Who's your favorite comedian? I wouldn't name Eddie Murphy now that I know him. And he's so not what you would expect. Like, he, you know. And also, I don't know how old he is, but they were talking about him like he was around in, like, the Judy Garland days. Like, he's old. Like, I was shocked when he was, like, showing the picture. Cause he looks maybe 50. I think he's like 70. He was talking about how, like, the height of his career Was like old Hollywood and everyone was like doing blow. And he really. He says he never smoked, he never did drugs, he never drank. I just. I didn't know him in a personal sense. I didn't expect him to have like such a good head on his shoulders. But he told this whole story about SNL and David Spade. And he didn't go back for years. Cause they made a mean joke about one of his movies that flopped. Which just reminded me. Highly recommend the documentary. I just wanted to tell everyone I.

[B]

Can'T wait to watch it.

[A]

It was excellent.

[B]

I cannot fucking wait.

[A]

But Cher is returning to SN and now. What do you think of it? Will you be tuning in? Do you tune in to.

[B]

First of all, I'm tuning in.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I'm tuning in for Sher and Ariana because they're going to do some skits together.

[A]

Do you think she's going to sing old music? She lowkey releases new music sometimes. Did you ever hear a Christmas song?

[B]

I think she's going to do old music.

[A]

I mean, like, I hope.

[B]

No, she's going to do old music. I think Cher gets the game. Like, when I looked at her on the Victoria Secret Fashion show, she was like, here's my classics Y. She's also dating a nice young, young guy. She's trying to show off.

[A]

Yep, yep, yep.

[B]

So she's gonna be back in that Bob Mackie ass out at 70, 80 doing her damn thing.

[A]

So it's gonna be in December, December 20. Which is the Christmas show.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I hope to God that Cher plays her new Christmas song. Did you ever hear it?

[B]

No. Play it.

[A]

Okay. Let me tell you, it is the best song. It went viral on TikTok when it came out. Me and my sister Margot became dj. Play a Christmas song I wanna feel you dancing all night long it's cold outside out there but it's warm in here and that's the only thing I want this year.

[B]

It's you with it.

[A]

It's like a DJ edm. It is a house song. It's incredible.

[B]

Damn.

[A]

And then I went to Jingle Ball where, weirdly, Cher was performing and she's saying it. Me and Margo were dying. It's the best song.

[B]

You lost your mind.

[A]

I lost my mind. I would love for her. I don't know if she has, like, new music coming out. Because mostly people use SNL as, like a platform to release and promote new music.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

But I would. I want dj play a Christmas song and then, like, believe, you know?

[B]

By the way, I'll take Believe.

[A]

Of course.

[B]

Any way I can get it.

[A]

Did you ever see the documentary Cher and the Loneliest Elephant?

[B]

No.

[A]

Okay, so when I was at.

[B]

How much time do you have?

[A]

Okay, so let me tell you. When I was at Brian Kelly's house, we were, like, spending the weekend together. It was snowing. We got snowed in. We were, like, drinking wine, and we wanted to watch something silly. So we turn on this. I think we wanted to, like, listen, to share or whatever. We search share in Apple tv and Cher and the Loneliest Elephant came up. And it's a documentary. Oh, my God.

[B]

I know this doc. It's about Cher funding this elephant that's released out of. Oh, my God.

[A]

Out of, like, Cambodia or something. So she, like, hears about. I think actually it's Pakistan. She hears about this elephant. There's a zoo that's closing down in Pakistan, and it's one of these, like, horrible zoos, you know, where they don't. And they've just sort of, like, abandoned. There's an elephant there. But the zoo closed down, and there's no plan to get the elephant. They were just gonna leave him there. And Cher heard about it. It was, like, all over social media. We have to save this elephant. So Cher saved the elephant. She got a cargo plane. And the journey is about, like, this really cute veterinarian. You have to get the elephant ready. You can't just put an elephant on a cargo plane for many hours. He's gotta prepare. And he was, like, really malnourished. By the time the documentary ended, me and Brian were hysterically crying. And then they're, like, playing Believe at the very end when he gets to this new rescue thing in Africa. Oh, my God. I highly recommend. I don't even know where you guys could watch it. It was the most random documentary. It was the best thing I've ever seen in my life.

[B]

Have you been to Africa?

[A]

No, I haven't.

[B]

Bitch, you have to go.

[A]

You've done, like, safari.

[B]

I went with Jamie Tish.

[A]

Oh, so you went good?

[B]

I went good. I went great. And we stayed in Kenya for one night.

[A]

Wow.

[B]

And this guy was telling us that these elephants come back. They raise these elephants from babies. They rescue them. They're orphans. They raise them.

[A]

Release them.

[B]

They release them. And then every now and then, like, once a year, they'll recognize us. They'll come back with a baby to show the baby.

[A]

Oh, wait, I'm gonna cry so they.

[B]

Can meet the people.

[A]

Like my foster parents.

[B]

Yes. And then they leave again.

[A]

Oh, that's beautiful.

[B]

And it's like. And they're still tagged so they know who they are. So like, this elephant would go away for like three years and come back with like a cub and be like, hey, I just wanted to show you guys. I would lose my mind.

[A]

That's so sad.

[B]

I would lose my mind.

[A]

Do you ever see also there's a documentary called An Apology to Elephants. Yes. You've seen it?

[B]

I've seen it.

[A]

I mean, I always bring that up. Nobody knows what I'm talking about. Wait. It's literally heartbreaking. Just like how humans have mistreated elephants. This conversation from Cher has taken a turn.

[B]

Let's go back to the Cher.

[A]

Cher, what do you make? They also announced like a couple of other people, but, like, who cares?

[B]

Can't wait.

[A]

Can't wait.

[B]

And also, like, Ariana and Cher are going to sing a song together.

[A]

They have to, at least in a sketch.

[B]

Yeah. And by the way, Ariana is so good on snl.

[A]

She's so. I mean, her vocal abilities, like, people don't, don't give her enough credit because I feel like they know her pop star era now. They know her Glinda era. But like, vocally, she's probably one of the best vocalists. She's up there with Adele.

[B]

I can't wait for you to see Wicked Wicked. Because pop star Ariana comes out a little bit.

[A]

Really?

[B]

And no one stopped it. And it's amazing.

[A]

Oh, wow. You're making me excited.

[B]

I'm telling you. You're going to be like, wait, that wasn't her Glenda voice. That was her black Ariana voice and I'm here for it.

[A]

Yes. Blackiana.

[B]

Blackiana.

[A]

Are you familiar with Blackiana's era?

[B]

Yes.

[A]

That was so funny.

[B]

Focus on me.

[A]

Yes, Focus on me. All right, our fourth story. Kind of sad news affecting some people. You know, Kathy Hilton and Sutton's tracks homes were burglarized while they were at BravoCon. So both Kathy Hilton and Sutton's LA homes were burglized over the weekend while they were attending Bravo Con 2025 in Vegas. The LAPD confirms to page six that burglary reports were completed for two break ins on the blocks where the stars homes are located. A police spokesperson told Page Six that the first burglary was reported around noon Saturday. And the report said that the front door had been left open, but a building search was conducted with negative results. Meanings that the suspects had fled by that point. Maybe like the alarm went off. Strax Dog Walker was the one who called 911 in the afternoon after coming back to a broken window.

[B]

Oh, my God. I need to text Kathy.

[A]

The police spokesperson confirmed that the second break in occurred around midnight. They reported that Rick Hilton was physically in the home at the time of the break in. He called 911 that night saying that there were three burglars. However, we're told that no one was home at the time of either incident. Okay, so it's a little unclear.

[B]

It's a little unclear.

[A]

It's also unclear if anything was taken. I'm sure we'll know more. I'm sure this will be a part of. Hopefully cameras, you know.

[B]

Yeah, I'm texting.

[A]

That's so scary. That happens so much in la, especially with celebrities whose schedules are like somewhat public. So people know when they're not physically. That's like the Bling Ring. They knew when Jesse Timberlake wasn't going to be home.

[B]

Also, like, you have to be really careful. I see a lot of social media and I, I don't follow them, but I see them that do star homes and where they are and what they look like.

[A]

It comes up for me all the time.

[B]

It comes up for me all the time. And I'm like, I don't need to know where Nicki Minaj lives and neither should the public.

[A]

Agreed. And that's like, you know, we live in this great country. Freedom of the press, I think it's called like the Freedom of Information Act. Like, all of this is public record. That always gives me the willies. And I think like, specifically social media influencers don't do a good enough job because, like celebrities, everyone knows where they live. But celebrities have like millions and millions of dollars and they do have like these security things in, in place influencers who are like, have so many people watching them and are so, you know, like not careful about sharing like details about their lives. And they show their fancy cars and their bags. It gives me such a pit.

[B]

And by the way, half that shit's fake. But, you know, you set yourself up for that. Like, you know, stop showing the fake shit online because now people are going to think it's real. Like, you can't do that shit. Yeah, people are. After Kim's robbery, I thought people would wake up a little bit. And again, not that it's Kathy and no, no, no, no Sutton's fault.

[A]

There's nothing they could have done. Had to go to bravocon for their jobs. Everybody knew that they would be leaving and like, it's just so crazy how common. I feel like we're always Reporting on a story about like a celeb house being burglarized in la.

[B]

It's so crazy. Shit doesn't happen like this in New York.

[A]

No. By the way, also now, Beverly Hills, it's Kyle who's been burglarized. Kathy Sutton. Literally. It's like sort of a rite of passage, everyone.

[B]

Oh, my God, Erica.

[A]

Was she burglarized?

[B]

Yes. Remember one Tom.

[A]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Insane.

[B]

Insane.

[A]

No. So scary.

[B]

It's so fucking scary. Thank God I'm broke.

[A]

Yeah. Don't steal from us.

[B]

I understand.

[A]

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They both filed wrongful suits against O.J. in 1995 and were awarded more than $33 million. But O.J. simpson's estate only paid a very small portion of the amount that was ordered. And now they're being forced to pay it because months later, Ron Goldman's dad, Fred filed a claim for $58 million with interest for the money that he was owed. And then the money that, the penalties and the interest, and he's finally. I mean, Ron Goldman. Sad. Always makes me cry, especially in that Ryan Murphy recreation.

[B]

It's just the Fact that this man still has to fight for this 31 years later and can't put this to bed because it's disgraceful.

[A]

Yeah. And I feel like he hasn't known peace since his son died. Like, obviously, your son dying is, like, the worst thing that could ever happen to you in the whole world, but it's like, it always comes back. Like, the Ryan Murphy thing, it introduced a whole new generation to this case. People who weren't alive for it, now this. It's also crazy that, like, he was not found guilty, but he got sued for a wrongful death. Like, how can it be both?

[B]

That's where the justice system is so fucked up.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You know, and part of, like, honestly, like, if you. These celebs do this sometimes, too, they'll sue people for a dollar.

[A]

Right.

[B]

Just to make a point. Gwyneth Ski lost a day of skiing. You owe me a dollar.

[A]

Half a day.

[B]

Half a day. You owe me a dollar to make this point. Ron Gomez. Dad didn't really do this for the money. What he did it for was to prove that O.J. had done this. And if he could do it in a civil.

[A]

Right. It's something.

[B]

It's something he would have to say. He lost his suit for a wrongful death.

[A]

Right.

[B]

But when you don't pay it and you think you're above the law for 31 years, you can't close that chapter of your life.

[A]

It's so crazy that O.J. simpson just, like, walks around.

[B]

It's wild. He did.

[A]

So he died, right?

[B]

Yeah, he died.

[A]

But, like, for. He went. Got out of prison for something totally, totally different and was just around for a couple of years, like, golfing. Like, that was the crazy. Making tick tocks.

[B]

Making tick tocks. But also, like, I think O.J. simpson, and I don't say this in defense of him, was a pure narcissist.

[A]

Oh. He was a deeply twisted individual.

[B]

Deeply twisted individual that probably had some cte.

[A]

Oh, for sure.

[B]

That was undiagnosed. That went on top of the narcissism and just thought he would just walk around and play golf in Florida. Shake goes down in Florida.

[A]

That's so true.

[B]

I just got back shickles down in Florida.

[A]

Can I tell you something also from the Eddie Murphy documentary? That made me really laugh. So he was saying when he was a kid, he definitely. He didn't know it at the time, but he had OCD. He would get out of bed, like, five or six times in the night every 10 minutes to make sure the oven was off. And he didn't know at the time. Nobody in his family knew. It was just, like, this thing he had to do because it would be kept up. It kept him up at night. I think the oven's on. Even though 10 minutes before, he just checked to make sure it's off. Then he's sitting around watching, like, the local news. And they did a segment on ocd. And that's how he figured out that that's what he had. And he. He was like. In that moment, I forced myself to stop because I thought it was just, like, this weird, quirky thing that I did, not a mental illness.

[B]

He figured it out.

[A]

He was like, I did not want to be mentally ill. I literally forced myself to stop.

[B]

Holy shit.

[A]

It was such a crazy story. It was a very crazy documentary. And they really could have done without, like, the last 10 minutes. I got so bored. But up until that point, it was perfect. Like, I really. I'm very tough on celebrity documentaries.

[B]

I can't wait to see it.

[A]

I talk about it all the time. Because not every celebrity needs a documentary. Not every celebrity needs multiple documentaries. Demi Lovato, and then sometimes they're just not good. But when they're good, good.

[B]

When they hit. When Charlie Sheen hit.

[A]

Charlie Sheen's was excellent. Gaga, 5' 2. Katy Perry. Part of me that was also part concert. Love that.

[B]

Listen, Charlie Sheen.

[A]

It was amazing.

[B]

I wish I knew him back then.

[A]

I know.

[B]

I wish I had, like, smoked a little something with him.

[A]

Crack. Yeah.

[B]

Just to say, I smoked a little crack with Charlie Sheen back in the cut. He was so raw. Yeah, I read the book. You did? I read the book.

[A]

What is your best celebrity memoir?

[B]

My favorite celebrity memoir.

[A]

Jessica Simpson's was amazing.

[B]

You know whose was really good? Who? Angelica Houston's.

[A]

Really? No, I just. The last one I read was Jessica Simpson.

[B]

The shit Jack Nicholson put her through.

[A]

Oh, my. Actually, I also read Keenan's Thompson. Yeah, it wasn't my favorite, but it was pretty good. They were little nuggets.

[B]

Oh, my God. Jennette McCurdy.

[A]

Oh, of course, bitch. So, by the way, Jennette McCurdy put me on the Kenan Thompson. So I started Jennette McCurdy, and then I started reading, like, a bunch of child stars. I also read Josh Peck's, which was very good. Jeanette McCurdy's. Oh, my. That shit can be up and everything.

[B]

Do not.

[A]

The teeth.

[B]

Listen, listen.

[A]

The teeth falling out in the teeth falling out.

[B]

Do not read Jeanette McCurdy's. Listen to it.

[A]

Oh, I Read it.

[B]

Oh, it's in her voice.

[A]

Oh, wow.

[B]

And it is. Is. I was in Sandrope, I'm not joking to you. At fucking club in the middle of the day with one ear. Dancing with my right ear. Getting a tea with my left ear.

[A]

Oh my God.

[B]

Janette McCurdy had me stuck. I couldn't leave the beach without finishing this chapter.

[A]

Bitch. I was chilling.

[B]

There was a man trying to make out with me right here. And I was fully Jeanette in your ear into the child abuse in here. It's wild, but the way she writes and the way she talks about it is so unbelievable. They're making a TV show about it.

[A]

Yeah, and they should. She's an excellent writer.

[B]

She's an excellent writer and poor girl had her whole life taken from her.

[A]

Jesus Christ. I mean, fucking crazy.

[B]

Fucking wild.

[A]

That was definitely probably the craziest Jessica Simpson. The first half of her memoir is really crazy. She grew up in like deep Bible belt and it's all about that. And usually I don't like when people talk about their childhood. It's like, I don't give a fuck. Tell me about like when you're famous. Oh my God. No, it was crazy.

[B]

I'm doing it.

[A]

Yeah, it was really. It's very long.

[B]

I'm doing it.

[A]

All right. Dear Toasters, our weekly advice segment. The girls write in and we try to help them. If you guys want to write in, email us deartoastersmail.com or head over to our website, thetoastpodcast.com okay. Good morning. My husband has the opportunity to take over his dad's business. This would be about a 15x increase in salary to 7 figures. Plus more flexibility than what my husband currently has. And that's something we both desire for our family. I personally stopped working when I had a baby. I don't know if I always want to be a stay at home mom. But this career change for my husband means I could do whatever I want. The problem is, is that we have to move to his hometown in the south, somewhere I don't see myself living. And it's a 10 hour drive to my family. We always talked about moving closer to family, but I figured it would be my family. I like his family. They can also drive me nuts. He would love to be near his family though. I hate the idea of feeling like we're just repeating my husband's life. He sees no problem with that, of course, because he loved his childhood. Do I need you? Just let go and be thankful for what this would mean. Am I being selfish? EXO and East coast swirly.

[B]

Let go, honey.

[A]

Of course. 15x 15x. And this is not even a question.

[B]

Bitch, you had me at 15.

[A]

Of course. I didn't even listen to anything you.

[B]

Said after I clicked out at 15x.

[A]

No. And by the way, it is nice to be around family. Yes, it would be better if it was yours. But, like, is the opportunity for 15x near your family? No, it's near his family.

[B]

Babe, Sorry. You're going to be fine.

[A]

You lose. Like, sorry.

[B]

Yeah, you lose. Have you seen the news? Have you seen what SNAP benefits are happening right now?

[A]

It's so true.

[B]

15X the money, take the lifestyle, take the. Like, you don't have to ask anybody to do anything. You could fly to see your family with all five. Or you can kids.

[A]

No. And like, obviously, financial security is so amazing. Right? It's like, really a feeling. You can't put a price on it. And I think also when you have a kid, like, you know, being kept up at night about money is, like the worst feeling in the world. Being kept up about money at night, like, for you and your family, is an even worse feeling, like you just had a baby. I don't think you can actually put a price on the peace of mind having financial security gives you. Sorry. Like, I'm. I'm. I am one thing about me, I am always gonna choose the money.

[B]

Okay, same here. But I'm reading between the lines here, okay. Because she didn't say everything she wanted to say.

[A]

Do you think her husband's gay?

[B]

I don't think her husband's gay. I think she's not very fond of his family.

[A]

Well, of course.

[B]

So let me give you a little tidbit here. If your husband's going to take this job, because I'm reading you like I think I'm reading you because I know women. You need to be in charge of where and how you live.

[A]

Yes, absolutely.

[B]

If your husband says, we're moving to X, Y and Louisiana, Alabama, yada, yada.

[A]

Yada, same block as my family. I don't think so.

[B]

I don't think so. We will be moving 30 minutes away because this is where I feel comfortable and I have enough space.

[A]

That's great advice.

[B]

Everybody else.

[A]

Absolutely.

[B]

So take it one step further and be in charge of finding the home and stand your ground and saying that I need to live here.

[A]

Yeah. And make sure to harp on the fact that, like, you're doing this for him. So you say, babe, like, listen, your dreams are coming true. You're so let me be the one to choose the house and the neighborhood and the school zone and everything. Love that.

[B]

Yeah. And by the way, in the south, let me let you know something. 30 minutes, 25 minutes.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

It's fun.

[A]

Is a lifetime. Yes. Oh, yes. It's land.

[B]

It's in the south, by the way, La.

[A]

Because you're from Louisiana, right?

[B]

Louisiana. 30 minutes in LA. I'm like, I'll think about it. I don't know if I can really make that happen. 30 minutes.

[A]

30 minutes in LA is also like 5 miles, but so much traffic.

[B]

So much traffic.

[A]

30 minutes in, like a landlocked flyover.

[B]

State, like 50 miles.

[A]

Is. Is literally 30 miles.

[B]

It's really crazy. Yeah, it's really crazy. And by the way, they're not coming to your house.

[A]

No. Right. Love that.

[B]

They're not coming to your house.

[A]

Oh, yeah. Buy a small house.

[B]

Yeah, yeah.

[A]

Do not come.

[B]

Do not come. No. Buy a big fucking house. 30 minutes away.

[A]

Love that. All right, next up. Hi, guys. My best friend invited my husband and I to her 30th birthday party. It was a hibachi open. We were told we didn't need to bring anything, but she texted me the next day asking me to pay her $200 to cover dinner expenses. Context, you know, is important. They make a lot of money. I would say millions. I dare. Is this crazy? Absolutely.

[B]

I just had this happen to me.

[A]

Did you?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Where? Give me the circumstances.

[B]

A friend of mine's boyfriend planned a birthday dinner for the friend. For the friend.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

And.

[A]

He.

[B]

We went. It was a very nice dinner. It's very civilized. I bought a nice gift for, like, 200 bucks.

[A]

Nice.

[B]

Because I, in my mind thought, oh, dinner was going to be, you know, picked up. And then the next day we got the Venmo. And by the way, I'm not mad at the Venmo. I think that the presentation. I think. I think the conversation needs to happen.

[A]

I'm a little mad at the Venmo in general. Ben and I. This happened to Ben and I, and I feel like literally was years ago. We talk about it all the time. Because it was the craziest thing ever. Like, if someone, especially, like, if your friend is being showered by their partner, it's on the partner. I'm sorry to figure it out.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And if you are going to make it this sort of, like, potluck community event, you got to let me know at least.

[B]

Also, like, say, drinks are on me.

[A]

Like, are like, let me bring something. Yeah.

[B]

Now I would have loved it if the partner was like, hey, I have a fixed menu. I'm gonna get dinner. But I know y' all are alcoholics, so.

[A]

So bring a bottle.

[B]

Bring a bottle. Or drinks. You guys are.

[A]

You guys have the COVID drinks?

[B]

Yeah. You guys cover drinks or, you know, I have appetizers and four bottles of wine on the table.

[A]

But if you want anything else, please.

[B]

Like, you know what I mean? Like, I think at my big age.

[A]

Well, that's the other thing. At a certain point, maybe when we're all like 16, 17, even college, young 20s, sure. We're all living, you know, on the heels of our ass, we can all change, chip in. Yeah, but everyone's getting married. We're buying houses. Throw your own fucking birthday party. I'm sorry, like, you're 40 or whatever. Not my fucking problem.

[B]

Just do it.

[A]

I have my own bills.

[B]

Just do it.

[A]

Just do it. Nike.

[B]

And I wouldn't have brought a $200 gift knowing that I would have to pay $250.

[A]

Absolutely.

[B]

And I do love my friend.

[A]

Of course. It's not about that. It never is about that. It's just about common courtesy.

[B]

Thank you.

[A]

I'm sorry that happened to you. That sucks. Our third and final submission. Hi. I'm a first time boy, Mom. Due in March. I'm starting to plan my baby shower. My husband and I have kept the news off social media, but we've told friends and family in person for the most part. Except my husband hasn't told any of his friends and he's not planning on inviting them to the baby shower. I know he's excited about the baby, but is it just me or is this weird?

[B]

Straight men are weird.

[A]

I know. That's actually a really important caveat.

[B]

Straight men are weird. There's a straight white man sitting behind this man and he's just nodding and he's just nodding. They're fucking weird. By the way, just so you know, if you didn't force your husband to write down every address for your wedding, you would have not seen anyone on his side. And it's not because he doesn't care. Love you. Or he didn't care. He just doesn't care about that.

[A]

I do think it's weird. I think there could be like a plausible explanation. I think a lot of people are very superstitious. Perhaps. Is your husband Jewish? Jewish people are very superstitious. They don't even like to see. Say it until the baby's born. Like you'll be walking around and there's a religious Pregnant woman. You're not even supposed to be like, oh, how are you feeling? Like, oh.

[B]

Is that why you were so weird about pregnant?

[A]

Yes. Very superstitious. Like, you don't do baby showers, so maybe he's superstitious. I don't know. I don't know. It's weird. Especially if you're having a shower and you're telling people, like, straights are weird. I don't identify the bros. You know, I'm a power bottom.

[B]

Oops. I know. You are a power bot. A dom power bottom.

[A]

Yeah, so.

[B]

Which is, like, unheard of.

[A]

When I was, like, an in college, I had this internship, and there was this really fun gay guy named Jason who, like, we were, like, best friends at the internship, and he basically gave me a quiz, and he was like, tell me about what you're like in your relationship, your personality. And he diagnosed me as a power bottom. And ever since then, I tell every, like, gay person I meet that I'm a power bottom. And they're like, I see it.

[B]

A dom power bottom, though. Add dom in front of that.

[A]

Okay. What's dom?

[B]

Dom is dominant. Dominant?

[A]

Yeah. Okay.

[B]

Very. Like a dominant power bottom. Like, you know, most power bottoms are very, you know, submissive.

[A]

Most bottoms?

[B]

You mean most like, most like, power bottoms. If you're a power bottom, you're only bottoming.

[A]

Okay. Okay. But I thought it also meant, like, you're also like, bossy and in charge.

[B]

No, that's a D power bottom.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

You're a dom power bottom.

[A]

Okay. I love that. I think that should be today's title.

[B]

D power bottom. Now there's an Obama bottom.

[A]

There's a what?

[B]

Obama bottom, meaning the biggest bottoms ever. Okay, so that's Baba dom power bottom.

[A]

And what's the difference?

[B]

You don't want to know, though. Obambo Adams.

[A]

You know what? You're right.

[B]

You don't need to know anything about the oboe bombs.

[A]

What would you say you are?

[B]

I'm a nice, versatile man. Yes.

[A]

Verse queenie.

[B]

I like it here, I like it there. I like it everywhere. Yeah. I'm a classy, versatile man.

[A]

That is so funny.

[B]

I'm ambidextrous.

[A]

I love that. A righty and a lefty. I love that.

[B]

I love you.

[A]

Well, thank you for helping out the girlies in need. Thank you guys for writing in again the toastpodcast.com or dear toastersmail.com to get your submissions read on air. Justin, it is always an absolute pleasure beyond to have you here with us, and today was no exception. Make sure to follow Justin on Instagram the artist formerly known as Lady Sitter. It's Justin A. Sylvester on Instagram on all the platforms to see him doing.

[B]

His thing and follow our podcast the Yesterdays with Blakely Thornton.

[A]

When do you drop episodes?

[B]

Every Tuesday. What's out today?

[A]

Yes.

[B]

Shit's getting real guys.

[A]

Thank you so much for listening to the Toast Atlanta Morning show. We deliver the fast five stories you need to know every Monday through Friday on YouTube. So if you're watching us on YouTube, please feel free to subscribe and give us video a thumbs up. We're also available as a podcast anywhere. Podcast can be found at Spotify, itunes, digital public radio. I already cast box all the places we listen to podcasts. Find us the Toast Sleepy five star review about a beautiful setting. Wickedly talented they are. We will see you tomorrow. Love ya. Bye.

[B]

And if you guys are listening to this on a podcast that really does that, it is not sped up.