The Last 10 Pounds with Jared Freid: Tuesday, June 10th, 2025

Summary

Podcast Summary: The Toast – "The Last 10 Pounds with Jared Freed"

Release Date: June 10, 2025

Hosts: Jackie Oshry & Claudia Oshry

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1. Introduction and Welcome

The episode opens with Jackie Oshry warmly welcoming listeners back to "The Toast." Jared Freed joins as a co-host after a hiatus of several years. Their friendly banter sets a casual and engaging tone for the episode.

Notable Quote:

• Jared Freed [00:05]: "Good morning, girlies."

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2. Jared Freed's Move to Florida

Jared shares his recent relocation from New York to Delray Beach, Florida, discussing the challenges of adapting to a new environment while maintaining his strong New York identity. He humorously highlights cultural differences and his struggle to fit into the Florida lifestyle.

Notable Quotes:

• Jared Freed [02:01]: "I'm drenched in the New York."
• Jackie Oshry [03:28]: "But I think that New Yorkers, I do think that it's better."

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3. Weight Loss Journey and Ozempic Discussion

A significant portion of the conversation revolves around Jared's pursuit to lose the last 10 pounds. He contemplates using Ozempic, a weight loss medication, expressing concern over how losing these pounds might affect his sense of self and comedic persona.

Notable Quotes:

• Jared Freed [05:17]: "I've been trying to lose £10 my."
• Jackie Oshry [06:05]: "What would you do if you didn't have to think about that?"

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4. Impact of Weight Loss on Identity and Comedy

Jackie and Jared delve into the philosophical aspect of weight loss, pondering whether shedding these final pounds might strip away parts of his identity that contribute to his humor and relatability. They discuss the balance between physical health and personal authenticity.

Notable Quotes:

• Jared Freed [06:33]: "If I lose what makes me me."
• Jackie Oshry [06:49]: "Those 10 pounds have made me who I am."

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5. Dating Experiences and Challenges

Jared opens up about his single life and the complexities of modern dating, especially through apps. He critiques the superficiality and overwhelming options that lead to fleeting connections, sharing his frustrations and experiences in seeking meaningful relationships.

Notable Quotes:

• Jared Freed [10:35]: "I think guys don't really think in terms of timing a lot."
• Jackie Oshry [25:28]: "Let us know if it works out for any of you."

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6. Jared's Stand-up Special

Jared promotes his Netflix stand-up special, "37 and Single," which explores themes of dating, body image, and family relationships. He discusses the creative process behind his material and the personal stories that resonate with his audience.

Notable Quotes:

• Jared Freed [16:20]: "If people want 37 and single... it's on Netflix."
• Jackie Oshry [16:32]: "I just thought talking about your parents was stupid."

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7. Family Influences and Anecdotes

The discussion shifts to Jared's relationship with his parents, highlighting their quirky behaviors and how they provide endless material for his comedy. He shares humorous stories about his mother's meticulousness and his father's influence.

Notable Quotes:

• Jared Freed [14:09]: "My parents are wild animals."
• Jackie Oshry [15:42]: "Michigan is the best word yesterday."

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8. Pop Culture Segment: Justin Baldoni's Lawsuit

Post-advertisements, the hosts transition to current pop culture events, focusing on Justin Baldoni's $400 million countersuit against Blake Lively and Ryan Reynolds. They discuss the implications of the lawsuit's dismissal and its impact on both parties' public images.

Notable Quotes:

• Jackie Oshry [54:43]: "This needs to let it go more than she needs to let it go."
• Jared Freed [56:53]: "They need to have a Meeting actually and be done with this."

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9. Taylor Swift and Travis Kelce’s Wedding Rumors

The conversation shifts to the wedding where Taylor Swift and Travis Kelce were present, sparking rumors about their relationship status. The hosts analyze public perception and media speculation surrounding whether they might be secretly married.

Notable Quotes:

• Jackie Oshry [43:01]: "Do you think Aaron Rodgers is married to Taylor Swift?"
• Jared Freed [45:10]: "I think he's smarter than that."

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10. Love Island Spinoff Announcement

The hosts discuss the announcement of "Love Island Beyond the Villa," a new spinoff series on Peacock. They express excitement over the continuation of Love Island alumni in a different setting, drawing parallels to other reality TV successes.

Notable Quotes:

• Jackie Oshry [72:10]: "Our next story, we're actually gonna skip ahead to our Love Island story."
• Jared Freed [73:34]: "They have people. It's the good and bad of the follower economy."

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11. Friendship and Social Connections

Jared offers advice on cultivating friendships, particularly criticizing the notion of forming friendships solely through dating platforms. He emphasizes the importance of genuine connections and meaningful relationships beyond romantic interests.

Notable Quotes:

• Jared Freed [26:27]: "It doesn't have to be single. One friend. That's your admission into the door."
• Jackie Oshry [26:54]: "I'm in. I want to go to the Jackie O. Friendlock."

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12. Final Remarks and Conclusion

As the episode wraps up, Jackie and Jared reflect on their discussions, expressing a desire to continue exploring these topics in future episodes. They also touch upon Jared's multiple podcast ventures and mutual respect for each other's work.

Notable Quotes:

• Jared Freed [78:45]: "You have to take what I say and just know that like, I'm speaking honestly about my own situation."
• Jackie Oshry [79:46]: "We do cherish that advice. I hope you guys got some good dating tips from Jared."

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Conclusion

In "The Last 10 Pounds with Jared Freed," listeners gain an intimate look into Jared's personal struggles with weight loss, his experiences with modern dating, and the influence of his family on his comedic career. The episode seamlessly weaves personal anecdotes with broader pop culture discussions, offering both humor and heartfelt insight. The conversation underscores the challenges of balancing personal health goals with maintaining one's identity and relationships, all while navigating the complexities of public life and fame.

Overall Notable Quote:

• Jackie Oshry [80:57]: "We've had so many great conversations and we, like, are out of time and I want to get this episode up. But like, thank you."

Transcript

[Jared Freed]

Good morning, girlies.

[Jackie Oshry]

It's the Toast. It's Jackson Claude and we're your host. It's your favorite show. The best five things you need to know. We'll start your day off Swirly. It's the Toast. I sound amazing. Welcome back to the Toast. Happy Tuesday. We are back on the Toast in studio. I'm joined by my co host today, Jared Free. Jared, welcome back to the Toast.

[Jared Freed]

It is great to be here. Thank you so much for having me. It's always a pleasure to see you. To be amongst the toasters who I see on the road every now and again I hear from a toaster, oh, I love that. Yes. They're like, I heard you way back when. And go back on the toast. I get, I get asked, go back on. I'm like, I'm here. The Delray daddy is, is here.

[Jackie Oshry]

So Jared is here today. You have not been on the Toast in years. I can't remember. I remember the last time we co hosted together, probably like five years ago. Yeah, but you are a comedian, podcaster, creator, all of the things that qualify you to sit in this chair today, right?

[Jared Freed]

Well, I, I, I took the test outside and then I passed. I was able to go, hey, guys, a lot of you have been asking, so, yeah, I said it. I said it well. So, no, it is a pleasure to be back. I moved down to the fl. Florida area and I'm like, you've been.

[Jackie Oshry]

Living here like two weeks.

[Jared Freed]

Like, two weeks. And I'm trying to see if it can work. I'm in Del Rey, which I am like, I'm singing the praises of Del. It's weird because I was New York 18 years.

[Jackie Oshry]

You sound so New York and like, everything about you is so New York.

[Jared Freed]

I'm Northeast. Like, I'm from outside of Boston, but, like, I'm like the most Northeast. Like, I realize it when I go on the road. You probably realize it when you go on the road.

[Jackie Oshry]

You're like, yeah, I realize it. Doing this show, like, so many things that I, we say, people will be like, what did she say? Even yesterday, I called a cream Saver a sucking candy. And they're like, a sucking candy. I'm like, what else do you call it?

[Jared Freed]

I mean, that's like literally every grandma from, you know, the Northeast have a soccer. You want a soccer? Take a soccer. Yeah, yeah. No, it is. It's like, again, that's the pleasure of seeing the country is like, oh, my God. There's a whole thing here that I had no idea. I went to San Jose. I put up a video on Tick Tock. I'm like, san Jose? I didn't know San Jose was near San Francisco. I've heard of San Jose my whole life. Yeah, I just was like, California. Like, why would I know? In the same way, why would someone know where Worcester is in New England? Like, I. These are like. And then everyone's like, you don't know where San Jose is? I'm like, no, I'm not from here. I don't know your, your weird Silicon Valley thing, but it's cool to see. And now being here, I'm like, the New York. I'm like, drenched in the New York. Like, yeah, I went to a gym.

[Jackie Oshry]

But it looks like you're trying to cover up with your T shirt.

[Jared Freed]

No, I'm a Florida man.

[Jackie Oshry]

And your Dolphins hat. Like, you jump ship so quick.

[Jared Freed]

Yeah, screw this. I'm a homer. I'm just like, screw that team. I'm on this team now. No, I, I went to the gym. They don't even have lockers. Like, I'm like, well, where do I put my stuff? And they're like, there's a cubby. I'm like, a cubby. I have to like, touch other people's things. Like, get away. I'm going to get. Everything's going to be stolen. They're like, like, I know I'm the weirdo. You know, Like, I think that's something New Yorkers, because we're so loud and annoying, you know, sometimes that brashness comes off as, like, that. We think it's better. No, it's just different. You live like a weirdo in New York.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah, but I think that New Yorkers, I do think that it's better. But that's how they cope, you know, it's.

[Jared Freed]

Well, everyone's coping, right? Everyone is coping. You know how many people? The thing I'll never do is people.

[Jackie Oshry]

Down here, like, we have so much. Like, they tell themselves other things.

[Jared Freed]

Everyone's insecure. Everyone is insecure. Just remember that every start at if you started everyone's insecure. The world makes like, a lot more sense. Like, I have people. I'll be like, yeah, I moved to Delray. And they'll be like, isn't it horrible in New York? I'm like, no, I lived in the West Village. There I was pretty great. I used to go get wasted every night and you know, you know, stumble home, you know, like, it didn't feel unsafe to me. But they have to make sure they're, you know, everyone has to, like, make sure their move was correct.

[Jackie Oshry]

You know, everyone's looking for validation because these are big life choices, and it's nice to hear you made the right one.

[Jared Freed]

Absolutely.

[Jackie Oshry]

And you fear making the wrong one.

[Jared Freed]

Absolutely. This is, like, a very millennial thing, too. Like, we're the first generation to be living online, and, like, we want to make sure the thing we put out 10 years ago wasn't a huge mistake and something everyone else is talking about. You see it a lot in Austin because Austin was like, that first. Like, hey, move here. You have a new life. And all the Austin people are like, isn't it great? Tell me it's great. You're like, chill. It's okay.

[Jackie Oshry]

Did you think about moving to Austin? Because that's another place. But the comedy scene, to me, it.

[Jared Freed]

Was a lifestyle choice. I. My parents are, you know, in Boca, the southeast Florida area. You know, my parents are here. I like hanging out with my parents, even though they drive me insane. I kind of, like, am like, my soul is in, like, Is injected whenever I'm around them. Like, they're like, they're. Yeah, it's in the most horrific way. Like, it's like them being, like, offering me their Ozempic, you know, while I'm sitting at dinner.

[Jackie Oshry]

Like, have you ever taken it?

[Jared Freed]

No, Come on. I don't even.

[Jackie Oshry]

What an insulting look like, you have.

[Jared Freed]

No, I. Listen, I think about it every day.

[Jackie Oshry]

But I don't know if I can be offered oic, like, as a person who would be, like, able to take it and say no.

[Jared Freed]

Yeah, well, there's a big difference between taking it and being offered it.

[Jackie Oshry]

Like, oh, I. I taken two sides.

[Jared Freed]

Yeah, but taking. It's different. Do you know what I mean?

[Jackie Oshry]

What do you mean?

[Jared Freed]

Like, if I was like, hey, do you want some gum? What's the first thing you would say? Does my breath stink?

[Jackie Oshry]

Oh, they're calling you fat, right? Oh, okay.

[Jared Freed]

They're saying, I. Here's my fat, fat, fat fuck medicine. You need it. I mean, my mom and dad, they don't stop talking. They both. You know, they're both on it. And listen, I think about it, you know, I wonder, you know, but no.

[Jackie Oshry]

Even last time, when I said, you don't look like you take Ozemik, I didn't mean that you're that.

[Jared Freed]

No, I mean, I'm a big.

[Jackie Oshry]

No, listen, you don't get, like, jacked on Ozempic.

[Jared Freed]

I have. Trying to. I've been trying to lose £10 my.

[Jackie Oshry]

Whole life, so I suppose I get for.

[Jared Freed]

I Know, I know. That's the problem. It's like the X Men. Are you a fan of the. Never saw the. I didn't take you for an X Men.

[Jackie Oshry]

But you can explain the reference.

[Jared Freed]

The X Men reference is they're like, born with X Men traits. Whatever their genetic mutation is, they have a power. But then in every few episodes of X Men, there's like, we can cure it. And it's like, well, take away what's me.

[Jackie Oshry]

Oh, it's true. It's like if you lose those last ten pounds, like, will you still be funny? Like, will you still have those insecurities? Or will you just be like a man living on the beach, like, with your shirt off, not thinking about nothing?

[Jared Freed]

Right. When I lose what makes me me.

[Jackie Oshry]

I. I understand that. And I do think if you'd never had those 10 times, like, you wouldn't be you.

[Jared Freed]

Right.

[Jackie Oshry]

And I feel that way about me thinking about, like, my life, like, those 10 pounds have made me who I am.

[Jared Freed]

Absolutely.

[Jackie Oshry]

But now I'm settled in who I am and I'm ready to part.

[Jared Freed]

I'm ready to go away. From who? Yeah. I've been me for a long time. I'm done with it. You're right. There is a. Like, I do want to try. Then like. Like, all I talk about is what I eat, what I'm going to eat, how much I ate.

[Jackie Oshry]

That's what people. That's what people who go on Ozempic say. Like, the food noise, they call it. Like, that's what you're thinking about. That's what you're talking about. Like, what would you do if you didn't have to think about that? Like, you could cure cancer. Think about the potential. It doesn't mean you wouldn't think about anything. Just imagine what you could accomplish.

[Jared Freed]

Jackie, you're speaking my language. And then when I didn't cure cancer, I would feel bad that I've done nothing with my time.

[Jackie Oshry]

Right.

[Jared Freed]

And now look at what I mean.

[Jackie Oshry]

Now you have this excuse, Right?

[Jared Freed]

The excuse is that last night I needed to have pirates booty until 3:00am yeah. So, yes, this. No, this is why I love this show. This is why I love coming on here. I feel like I relate to you, the audience, in a way that's like, pretty spiritual. Like, I do feel that whenever I'm around a toaster, but I. No, I mean, my parents, I was with them yesterday. They're going. They're going. Yeah, you gotta watch out when you go out in, you know, Florida. Anyone who moves here midlife like they're a loser. Like something went wrong in their life. I'm like, you're talking to a guy who.

[Jackie Oshry]

Down here, I'm like, midlife, right?

[Jared Freed]

I'm yeah, 40, but, you know, this is my midlife crisis. Moving here from New York, I think.

[Jackie Oshry]

And also, you're only here on trial. You said you're staying here a few months, but so far, so far, I love it.

[Jared Freed]

It feels like I'm on vacation. I'm like, when does the vacation end? In reality, it. I mean, I, I. Liz, I'm happy most places. I think I'm pretty easy. Even though I complain about everything.

[Jackie Oshry]

Like, no, but that's like. That makes you happy?

[Jared Freed]

Yeah, it makes me happy to complain. Like, that that's scratching a bug bite, you know, Like, I love scratching a bug bite. But, like, whenever I go on the road, I can see why someone would live in that area. And I think for me, right.

[Jackie Oshry]

Do you look up Zillow every time you go on the road? Like, every city you're in?

[Jared Freed]

Every city I'm in. But also here, like, I'm Zillow in the southeast Florida area. I mean, those emails, that's like the best email I get all day. Like, I'm looking at everything. I. I just, I like it in. The other thing is big city to a small town. Like, Delray has 64,000 people. That's. I went to Penn State. That's State College, Pennsylvania. Like, that's the same size.

[Jackie Oshry]

Wow.

[Jared Freed]

I. I've never had that. So kind of. So, like, as far as, like, dating, I'm single. I do a podcast about dating. You know, it's kind of nice to like, live the life that we've had written into us about. It's kind of like, relate to people who are in a small town and dealing with dating struggles.

[Jackie Oshry]

Like, even right away, I was like a Hallmark movie.

[Jared Freed]

It's truly a Hallmark movie. I'm the Brady, the lawyer woman moving home to her small town. Yeah, you are the lawyer woman. I am. I'm the hotshot lawyer who moved back to Delray. Hopefully some young contractor can sweep me off my feet. It is weird. I mean, like, even, like I said, I've been thinking a lot about this. Like, I, you know, I try to think about my life and, you know, there takes a certain amount of vulnerability to put yourself out there. I've talked about being single, being in a relationship, and then this small town thing we get written in about and I'm like, I actually think what I'm going through. Right now and feeling so good about it. I think anyone living in a big city, like if you did a three month stint somewhere else, it kind of feels like when I got here, like I just downloaded the app, the dating app for the first time in years.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah.

[Jared Freed]

That first moment where you're getting a lot of matches, you're seeing all the new people, there's an excitement, there's a jolt of energy and I'm sure that like the dating apps that goes away, you've seen them all.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah.

[Jared Freed]

You know, and that, that's probably small town stuff too. That's pros and cons. That's life, you know.

[Jackie Oshry]

So you're dating down here.

[Jared Freed]

I've gone on dates, yeah. I've, yeah, I've, I'm, I'm dating everywhere.

[Jackie Oshry]

Are you looking for something serious like in earnest or you're like, if it finds me, it finds me.

[Jared Freed]

I think most men, the problem with dating apps is you can put like looking for long but open to short and I think that's every man's, you know, setting.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah.

[Jared Freed]

Is, you know, the, the lots have been made about the female version of like the Disney princess, the, you know, you know, the Prince Charming, sweep me off my feet. I think there's a male version of that where, where it's like, look at any coming of age movie. It's always like the cool girl who gets it. Oh my God. No one else knows she's awesome but me. That's a male thing.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah.

[Jared Freed]

So I, I, you know, I'm always, I've been, you know, I feel ridiculous. Cuz I do want a long term relationship. I do want to get married, have kids, all those things, you know, like live the toaster lifestyle. But I do, but I'm not. Also my life is good, you know, and I think that's the problem. I, I made a, I make a joke that sounds awful all the time. I'm like the only thing that could ruin my life is a. But that's the same for anyone listening. Male, female genders, gender aside, if you're like, if you're 35, you're making money, you're living well. You got your phone, you got your, your sweatpants, you got your good spot on the couch. The only thing that can really like ruin that whole thing is someone you falling in love and it being the wrong person for you.

[Jackie Oshry]

Right.

[Jared Freed]

And I have that fear that's like my fear of commitment has like evolved.

[Jackie Oshry]

Over the years into like it being someone who's just gonna like kind from your spot and your things.

[Jared Freed]

And that's a way to put it, that stress.

[Jackie Oshry]

Relationships can be stressful.

[Jared Freed]

Right. Like, I like my life, I like my family. I like, I want to bring, you know, again, it's like the cubbyhole. I just want someone to like. And that's not how it works. I understand, like, I sound ridiculous.

[Jackie Oshry]

Could work that way in a not good situation. But they can also add so much value.

[Jared Freed]

You know, that's the point is, is it goes both ways. It could be the most wonderful thing. I know I would be. I, I do believe I. We've had psychics and we've had. What are they called?

[Jackie Oshry]

Medium.

[Jared Freed]

Mediums. Come on the show and, like, do a session with me. Kelly Knight, she's great. She came on the show and did a session with me and, you know, she was like, I think you're at your best form when you, if you found someone. And she's. I do believe that. Like, I think. But until then, I, you know, you kind of. There's a lot of guilt associated. Like, you meet so many nice people and I don't know, I'm just like, I. I don't know how to get to the next thing. And that's, that's the problem. I think for a lot of people, I don't think I'm alone.

[Jackie Oshry]

I understand. What's the longest relationship you've had?

[Jared Freed]

Two and a half years. I would, you know, I've lived with someone. I've, I've had girlfriends. And then, you know, since then it's been like three monther, maybe six monther. And again, the other thing is, like, there's this, what we're doing.

[Jackie Oshry]

Right.

[Jared Freed]

You know, bringing someone into this world.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah.

[Jared Freed]

Is tough. I don't. And I have gone through that. Bringing someone into this world and then out of this world.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah. I, that really wouldn't do it again the same way.

[Jared Freed]

No, it's painful. Yeah, it's. And I feel a lot of guilt. Not, you know, in the way anyone would. Nothing went wrong. Nothing, Nothing extreme.

[Jackie Oshry]

But it was like, yeah, it's just a weird situation. And it's funny because people would be like, you know, don't you keep your private life private? You're like, but no, this is so fun. And like, it's good for my content. It's good for our relationship and we're working together. And like, it's fun to bring someone in.

[Jared Freed]

Right.

[Jackie Oshry]

But there is that, like, downside that's like, oh, now I know why people warn you about this.

[Jared Freed]

Of course, my mom. I Mean, I talk about my mom. My mom will call me and go, everyone's talking about the video. You put up about the trash. What did you put up about the trash? And I put up this video. She goes through the trash. You can't throw anything away.

[Jackie Oshry]

Like, you went through her trash.

[Jared Freed]

No, I threw away something. And she said, don't throw away garbage in the garbage. How insane is that?

[Jackie Oshry]

She doesn't throw stuff away.

[Jared Freed]

She goes through every piece of garbage my whole life. That's why I am a hoarder. She would go through with her hands. Why'd you throw away this tissue? And I'd have to explain the tissue. Can you imagine? I blew my nose and are you sick? Like, it would lead. You're dealing with this detective that's always on the case for nothing. I don't know why I'm being accused. That's my whole life. My mom and my mom. But now my mom's a version of. My mom's never gonna be out of my material until her death. And then I'll have to hear, oh, my God, what are you going to do for your comedy? Like, I'll have someone say that to me. I'll be like, I'll find something. Can I warn my mom? Fucking dead. She's not dead. She's fine. She's more alive than anyone.

[Jackie Oshry]

Happy to hear it.

[Jared Freed]

Yeah. No, my parents are wild animals and, like.

[Jackie Oshry]

And they're still married, so it's like. You have a really good example.

[Jared Freed]

Yeah, well, that's also the scary part, too.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah.

[Jared Freed]

You know, look how hard it is for them. And they're happily married. This is happy.

[Jackie Oshry]

Stop.

[Jared Freed]

I feel like screaming at each other.

[Jackie Oshry]

A lot of people who have, like, parents who are still together, it could really go either way, any situation. But I feel like the bar is also set really high. Regardless of their.

[Jared Freed]

It's.

[Jackie Oshry]

I mean, Michigan.

[Jared Freed]

Michigan is the best word yesterday. My. My mom goes, you're eat. Look at. He's like a pig. And then has barbecue sauce on her face. And I'm like, the pot calling the kettle black. They're, like, made for each other, you know, it's just. Yeah, they're total characters. I mean, I did. I just taped a special, and it's all about going to the beach with my parents.

[Jackie Oshry]

Oh, sweet.

[Jared Freed]

The whole hour is one story about going to the beach with my parents.

[Jackie Oshry]

When does it come out?

[Jared Freed]

I hope we'll see. I hope we sell it to wherever we sell it.

[Jackie Oshry]

Your previous special is on Netflix.

[Jared Freed]

It's on Netflix right now. Thanks. Big Flex.

[Jackie Oshry]

What's it called?

[Jared Freed]

If people want 37 and single. I mean, to get on these topics. 37 and single, it's on Netflix. And the first half is about dating. The second half is about body issues and my family.

[Jackie Oshry]

Oh, classic stuff here at the Toast.

[Jared Freed]

I mean, should. You might like it. Yeah, toasters. So, yeah, I. But the next one, I was started telling the story about going to the beach in Delray with my parents, and it was a two minute story and it just kept growing. Like people were like, what? You know, I was like, I guess I should talk about my dad. I guess I should talk about my mom and turn into this. Our thing that, like, it was like such a pleasure to go on the road and have like, first of all, I, you know, I talk about being Jewish kind of in the way that I talk about being Jewish. Just like, not really, you know, like, I'm. I'm a high holiday Jew who went to summer camp. So like, that's about as Jew as I get.

[Jackie Oshry]

Where'd you go to camp?

[Jared Freed]

Camp Cedar. You went to Vega. I know. So same camp circles. So. So, like, it's funny because Seinfeld never mentions he's Jewish, but it's a Jewish show, right? So it was cool to go on the road and do this show that was like a Jewish story, but then have every background come up to me and go, that's my mom, that's my dad. Oh my God, the boomers. And then Jews come up goes the Jews. Like, hilarious. They would always go up to me and go, does anyone get it? After, like a whole crowd was, we're laughing, we're laughing to people who aren't Jewish. And you'll get it. It's like they were all around you. So it's like. But it's so that was like the greatest pleasure in the world. But like, to talk about them is like, I never want. I thought talking about your parents was stupid. Like, I, I was like, who would care about them? And then they would just do these crazy things and.

[Jackie Oshry]

Do you ever, like, have them on your podcast?

[Jared Freed]

No, they wouldn't be good.

[Jackie Oshry]

It wouldn't translate. Like, you have to sort of decode them.

[Jared Freed]

Right.

[Jackie Oshry]

And make them entertainment.

[Jared Freed]

Absolutely. Like, if I put them in my. My mom would be like, hi. And I'm like, no, this isn't it. This isn't what you do.

[Jackie Oshry]

I understand.

[Jared Freed]

You know what I'm talking about. Like, I'm sure your parents. The same way. Like, you go, you know, all of them. They're all. And It's. It's also that generation, like, they're so confident, the boomers are so cocky and it's. It. They just waltz through life and like millennials were so not cocky. We're like the most self conscious generation.

[Jackie Oshry]

And, you know, then we have something so much better.

[Jared Freed]

No, it goes both ways. I wish I was a little bit more delusional.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah.

[Jared Freed]

I wish I didn't think about every little thing.

[Jackie Oshry]

But maybe it comes with age. Do you find getting older like you are sort of letting go of some of those things or not?

[Jared Freed]

I'm eating. Like I have let go, but I.

[Jackie Oshry]

You're right. But I do.

[Jared Freed]

Where. Yeah, I just don't. I just, I just cry about it more privately.

[Jackie Oshry]

Right. Right.

[Jared Freed]

So. No, I. It is getting older is fine. I. I think that's the, the struggle with dating too. Like, you know, when, you know, with dating stuff and I know we're doing some advice stuff. I'm sure there's.

[Jackie Oshry]

We're doing your toasters, you guys. Dtq, everyone. You'll be okay, dear. Toasters with Jared. And we're gonna do some like, fun dating ones.

[Jared Freed]

If we do some dating ones. I think the.

[Jackie Oshry]

I think I'll look at ones.

[Jared Freed]

Whatever. Whatever the questions are like, you know, I never does. You know, I think a lot of men don't do the math, including this thing of like, well, I have to get, you know, the time has come for me. You know, I think guys don't really think in, in terms of timing a lot.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah. And you don't have to. And that must be. That's nice for you.

[Jared Freed]

Right? There's no pros and cons. And like, there's this whole thing going on with, like, men not having friends. You know, like, it's kind of in the news and the zeitgeist. Yeah.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah.

[Jared Freed]

And it's like. Yeah. Because I don't like, think, like. Like, when I moved here, people were like, do you have any friends there? I'm like, friends. In what world do I have. I have my.

[Jackie Oshry]

The people I've met people in your life.

[Jared Freed]

Right. And I'm like, we'll see each other when we see each other. Like, I didn't like, decide to move to Del Rey based on, like, will I have anyone to have lunch with, but who will I brunch with? Like, it's not. But I do understand, you know, it's different for women. Like, there's.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah.

[Jared Freed]

A difference there.

[Jackie Oshry]

There is a difference there. That is really funny. And it's definitely a question. I get like, how do you. Like, are you guys making friends? Like, and you do want friends in your life, but I guess I can see why.

[Jared Freed]

I don't want any friends.

[Jackie Oshry]

I could see why. For you, it's like, friends, right?

[Jared Freed]

It was like. It is weird because then I had to, like, think, you know, look, I get. I'm not just. I'm not just someone who just lashes out without thinking internally. I do try to get some depth. To me, when I was asked, do I have friends out there? I was like, have I? Do I have friends? Like, I like just generally. And then I'm like, I talk to one friend every other day.

[Jackie Oshry]

That's good. That's a lot of talking to a friend.

[Jared Freed]

Yeah, we talk on the phone all the time.

[Jackie Oshry]

That's good. That's. That's a best friend. You have a best friend?

[Jared Freed]

Yeah, I wouldn't, you know, let's not make it, girl. Yeah, let's not.

[Jackie Oshry]

You got a buddy.

[Jared Freed]

Let ruin my. My street cred here in Delray.

[Jackie Oshry]

But I. Oh, you have a Delray best friend? No, like, from back in the day, I had a.

[Jared Freed]

From college that we talk all the time. But then there's like, my other college friends, my high school friends, I talk to. But, like, the idea that I would make a move based on, like, who you're gonna meet. Right. Like, I didn't go to, like, the Snapchat map and make sure that I.

[Jackie Oshry]

Had people around or, like, Bumble bff.

[Jared Freed]

Right? Oh, my God. That's something that really makes men angry. What if you mention we could be friends to a guy you met on a dating app? I'm telling you from. I'm the guy talking to you. Okay. You know, I'm not. I'm. I'm. I am one of the few straight men out there talking about this stuff because all the other straight men don't know how to talk about it and they're afraid. So I. When I get said. Or we could be friends from a.

[Jackie Oshry]

Girl on a dating app, it hits.

[Jared Freed]

You in the ego. Like, I. It's something I'm not proud of.

[Jackie Oshry]

Would you rather be ghosted?

[Jared Freed]

Absolutely. I don't want to be your friend. We met on a dating app, not anything else. Bumble bff. That's why there's probably no men on there, right?

[Jackie Oshry]

Do they even have a women's section? A men's section?

[Jared Freed]

I would imagine not. I've only heard about it.

[Jackie Oshry]

I've only heard about it, too. And it's, like, a nice idea, like, to make friends.

[Jared Freed]

They Might not even have it anymore.

[Jackie Oshry]

Right.

[Jared Freed]

But.

[Jackie Oshry]

Right.

[Jared Freed]

I'm just saying, like, I. Like, even the mention of maybe we could be. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. It hits me in my ego.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah.

[Jared Freed]

And if it's hitting me and I'm talking out loud about it, there's some guy just, like, you know, raging it. Like, hey, maybe we could be friends. Just ghost or. We are not a romantic connection.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah.

[Jared Freed]

That's okay to say. Hit him. You got to. Guys are like vampires. Put the stake through the heart, chop off the head.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah, I like a ghost. Honestly. Like, unless you were like, seriously, boyfriend, girlfriend, like, a couple days, he's not feeling it. Like, you don't. It's just peter out.

[Jared Freed]

It's so hard these days because, like, I even, like, put this thing on tick tock about, you know, you talk to people. The problem with dating apps is that there's just more. You know, you have more conversations. Like, if there was no, it's. It's. To me, it's the difference between sugar and sweet and low. When you put sugar in your coffee, you're like, is there anything in this? Then you put sweet and low. You're like, this is Russia sweet. That's what a dating app is. You're talking to way more people than you would ever talk to on a weekly basis.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah.

[Jared Freed]

So there's more failure. There's more excitement. There's more, more, more. An extra. So you get in these situations where you have a lot of medium conversations on dating apps, and that almost enrages people more.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah.

[Jared Freed]

Because they're like, I know they're nice. They've done nothing wrong, but I don't want to go out.

[Jackie Oshry]

It just, like, goes nowhere. And so do you like dating apps? What's your.

[Jared Freed]

I've just deleted them. I'm taking a break. I like. I think they. Sir, I think everything's good, everything's bad.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah.

[Jared Freed]

You know, like, I don't live in a world where I don't believe in you. You know, shouldn't, coulda, woulda, shoulda. It just is. Yeah. Like, dating apps are a tool. That's a hammer. Is a hammer bad? You know what I mean? Like, everyone has met in every way, too. So, like, when someone brings up the grocery store, they're annoying, but they're always going to be right because someone met in the grocery store. When someone brings up the dating app, they're annoying, but someone is met on the dating app. And when someone meets at the restaurant or the wedding or the. That's the Problem with dating, it's like it's quicksand. It's, it's, you know, there's no way to be right. And if you're trying to be right, you're never going to meet anybody.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah, a setup is good. Do you get set up?

[Jared Freed]

I think setup is number one. I'm with you. I set up is number one because. But a thoughtful setup.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yes.

[Jared Freed]

Don't just set up any people.

[Jackie Oshry]

No.

[Jared Freed]

All I ask from a setup is a reason you thought of me. And the reason could be they're fun.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah. Well, you're now on my setup list.

[Jared Freed]

Whoa.

[Jackie Oshry]

It's.

[Jared Freed]

I'm in.

[Jackie Oshry]

The male side is very short.

[Jared Freed]

Tough. It's tough. I always say to women they should hang out with married couples and hang out with the husband because the husband isn't thinking. All you have to do for the husband, in my personal opinion. And I've heard, I know men. I, I, I, I, I'm a man. I, But I've heard men speak. Men don't go, oh, you know, who's single? They never do that. They'll go, you know who's awesome? That's what they say. That's the way they speak about their wives friends. So if you're like, shitty to the wife's, to the husband of your friend, they're gonna, they're not gonna think of you.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah. You want to be like, is this advice for women?

[Jared Freed]

I think this is why it's for women and men.

[Jackie Oshry]

Okay.

[Jared Freed]

I think anyone who's single, the spouse of your friend is your best, is your best asset, and you want them to, it's, you know, like Coke and Pepsi. Why would Coke and Pepsi ever advertise? We all know Coke and Pepsi. They advertise because they want that to be the first thing out of your mouth. Hey, do you want a soda of a Coke? You want a soda of a Pepsi? So same with dating. You have to be the first thing that comes out of the spouse's mouth when they, for the. If and when you're not counting on this person, you don't want to be their burden. Everyone's got their own lives to deal with. But you go to go out for dinner with your friend. If I go out to dinner with you, bring the husband, you know, who's awesome. Jared was awesome. You know, he was a fun time.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah.

[Jared Freed]

I want to be first out of the mouth. And I think that's like, for anyone who's out there and single looking for, like, actionable things, because it's all, you know, look at TikTok dating content. It's all, like, you know, it's all, you know, manifest. No one has any answers. Yeah, I think my answer the spouse. Always the spouse. Also, have a friend luck. You know, like a potluck.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah. And everyone brings a friend.

[Jared Freed]

Doesn't have to be married, doesn't have to be single.

[Jackie Oshry]

Really cute.

[Jared Freed]

Doesn't have to be single. That's a big part of this. Because they think, well, I have no single friend. No. No friend luck. One friend. That's your admission into the door. It doesn't. Because everyone knows 200 people.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah.

[Jared Freed]

This is how people sell life insurance. I'm just giving you a life insurance thing. I used to cold call. This is what they would tell you.

[Jackie Oshry]

Okay.

[Jared Freed]

So I think this is a good way to find, you know, love.

[Jackie Oshry]

I love that. Let us know if it works out for any of you, and you'll be invited to my next friendlock for sure.

[Jared Freed]

I'm in. I'm in. I want to go to the Jackie O. Friendlock. But this is such a pleasure. Thank you again for having me.

[Jackie Oshry]

Of course. Well, we're going to do the fast five stories. I'm going to get your take on the biggest pop culture stories, and then we're going to get into Dear Toasters, and I'll do a little Love island recap. Are you watching Love Island?

[Jared Freed]

So I have started.

[Jackie Oshry]

Okay.

[Jared Freed]

I'm on episode four. It's so much so. I'm new to the world. I think that hurts them.

[Jackie Oshry]

I agree. I'm watching so much and so quickly, like, for my job, not for fun.

[Jared Freed]

Right? It's not.

[Jackie Oshry]

But how many people are watching to do a podcast? Like, 20.

[Jared Freed]

That's the thing. Right? That's the thing. I'm like, who's keeping up with this? And then people are like, oh, I like to rot and watch Love Island. It's like, are you actually rotting? Like, there's. How much time are you on the couch? Like, it made me think of that word rot differently. Like, I'm like, I thought it was like a joke. No, it's like, the first episode, it's an hour and 40 minutes.

[Jackie Oshry]

You're physically rotting, and your brain is literally rotting. This show is so dumb. And I think every season of the show is so unpredictable because they don't know. Like, they cast these people, they record the pilot and then they put it up, and every episode is, like, the night or two days before, and, like, they don't know if the show is good until it's done.

[Jared Freed]

I know.

[Jackie Oshry]

That's the hard part with watching as a viewer. And so, like, I'm watching the season because last season was, like, the biggest thing in pop culture last summer. And I didn't watch last summer because I had watched so many. I watched the prior Love Island US seasons, and I'm like, this is, like, seriously bad and a waste of my time. Of course, the one season I don't watch is a good one. So now I'm like, okay, I'm back.

[Jared Freed]

Right? That's. I mean, it's sad that that's why I'm there. I'm like, I heard it was so great last season. I would love to, like, be in the know of what's going on. I do think they were helped last season because it was one of the NFL players. Brother was on it.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah.

[Jared Freed]

He played for the Giants.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah, the one. Odell Beckham.

[Jared Freed]

Odell Beckham. His brother was on it. I listen, who am I to come into a show that's been established and be like, here's how you should change it? But I'm like, it does need a. Maybe it needs a celebrity factor.

[Jackie Oshry]

It does need a celebrity hook. And I do think a famous younger brother is a great way because that's also from Love island uk, which is so much more successful than us. The one season I watched, which is, like, the big. The best season, season five, Molly May and Tommy Fury, who's the younger brother of Tyson Fury. And so that was, like, a big get for the show that Tommy was on it. He turned out to be, like, such an amazing guy, except for last year, and then he fell in love with Molly, and they've been together since, and they have a baby. And, like, it's just been amazing. And so now we're two for two on famous younger brothers carrying a season.

[Jared Freed]

Right? And I. Because I'm watching this, and it's just. To me, it's like young kids dating. It feels very saved by the bell. Like, it's just like, I don't really relate to them very well. And I'm a big dating show fan. Like, I'm not a reality show hater. Like, I love the Bachelor. I yell at the Bachelor on my Instagram. Like, I. I've kept up with it. Like, the thing about the Bachelor that I really like is the arc of it. Like, and that's what this lacks is there's a beginning, middle, and end. Like, this has seems like we're just treading.

[Jackie Oshry]

We're just, like, sitting around until they throw another wrench into the Villa have you ever, like, gone out with someone from the Bachelor?

[Jared Freed]

No.

[Jackie Oshry]

I feel like in your career, I've.

[Jared Freed]

Met a lot of them, but I've never been on a date with one of. I once tried. I shot my shot once.

[Jackie Oshry]

With whom?

[Jared Freed]

I won't say names, but.

[Jackie Oshry]

Whose season?

[Jared Freed]

Oh, it was one. I can't remember what she was on, but I was like. I basically put it out there. I was like, hey, just. I know you're going through, like, a whole season thing. No, she. She ignored the message, and I was just like, all right, we shot. We shot. That's the thing about. And listen, I speak from experience. When you shoot your shot, it's called shooting your one. S S H O T. Not shots.

[Jackie Oshry]

Do you know Ariel Frankel from the Bachelor?

[Jared Freed]

I know. Yeah.

[Jackie Oshry]

Is that the one?

[Jared Freed]

Yeah. Well.

[Jackie Oshry]

Cause she's Jewish, and she's amazing and gorgeous.

[Jared Freed]

Cause I made fun of her.

[Jackie Oshry]

I'm obsessed with her.

[Jared Freed]

Well, I made fun of her the who season for, you know, the Jewish thing, because I kept talking about how my parents would act like my whole. The whole bit was like, I knew she was Jewish and, like, kind of, like, made fun of that. So then I was like, hey, listen, no, things are, you know, kind of wild right now or whatever, but if you ever want to get a drink and then just not even acknowledged, not even the read receipt, which. I know how that works. You can turn those off on Instagram.

[Jackie Oshry]

Or you just, like, don't open it. You see the person, right?

[Jared Freed]

You just delete right away. Just like. I. Like, she saw these subtle, like, hey. And was like, no, no, I won't even read this. Just let me delete right away.

[Jackie Oshry]

Crack it up. I just want to say of all.

[Jared Freed]

Like, can't believe you guessed it right.

[Jackie Oshry]

Away because, like, she's the one to go, listen.

[Jared Freed]

I was like. She had laughed at a bunch of my jokes, so I was like, okay.

[Jackie Oshry]

At first when you were talking about it, I figured it was someone from back in the day, like, Nick Vile Season, because I feel like, I don't know. That's just who I associate with the Bachelor, and the newer girls are, like, younger and, like, so. But then I was like, who would I set you up with from the Bachelor? Right, Ariel.

[Jared Freed]

Well, I. I mean, a lot of the fans, because I kept making fun of her, you know, her on the show, and a lot of people are like, you know.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah, yeah. Well, she did go out with the other Jew who was. Oh, yeah, I don't know who that is. I don't watch the show anymore.

[Jared Freed]

But he's a nice guy.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah. And they went out like, once just for the Jews and then for us, for the Jewish people. And. And now she's like, it's just a queenie. And she was, like, dating some celebrity.

[Jared Freed]

Okay. Yeah.

[Jackie Oshry]

But anyways, I love that. Let's just like, didn't work.

[Jared Freed]

I guess old Jared wasn't celeb enough. Old. 10 pounds to lose.

[Jackie Oshry]

It was the 10 pounds.

[Jared Freed]

It was the 10 pounds. I think if I had taken Ozempic.

[Jackie Oshry]

But the thing is, if you didn't have those 10 pounds, like, you'd have to, like, just sit with yourself and be like, well, what was it?

[Jared Freed]

Nothing to do. Now I get it.

[Jackie Oshry]

Nothing to blame it on.

[Jared Freed]

Right.

[Jackie Oshry]

So it's good that they're healing.

[Jared Freed]

Right? Right. I'd be responsible for cancer still being.

[Jackie Oshry]

You'd have to really deal with why Ariel didn't want to crack.

[Jared Freed]

It was my personality. Holy shit. The thing I make a living on.

[Jackie Oshry]

I'm seriously cracking up. Okay, well, we'll talk a little bit more about Love island later in the show because we have a Love island story. And now, without further ado. Da da da do it is time for the Fast 5 stories that you need to know. Today's episode of the toast is brought to you by Taylor Farms, one of my fave sponsors and one of my fave brands for life. Taylor Farms is revolutionizing bag salad, a category that did need to be revolutionized. And Taylor Farms is doing the work and they're doing it excellently because they have bag salads that are ready to eat. They're pre washed, pre chopped, pre, like designed in terms of flavors. So you don't have to be creative. You don't have to get out the salad spinner. That's a huge thing to wash. You don't have to get out your cutting board and your knives and all the ingredients and leave half an onion in the fridge because Taylor Farms is doing the work. So I love Taylor Farm salads. My favorite way to eat them is probably for lunch. 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Like, is it turdback.com no, it is roback.com r h o b a c k dot com I love.

[Jared Freed]

I see that you have page six out. I love a page six headline.

[Jackie Oshry]

Page six is my first stop.

[Jared Freed]

It's the. It's the only stop. Yeah, I just, I love to me the page six fun is trying to figure out who planted the story too. Because these are all PR agents that are kind of like making you Know, sending it over to the Page Six people. So I just love. Where's this coming from? I kind of like, I, I, that's something that always crosses me.

[Jackie Oshry]

And that's a good question to ask, like in general as a history major. So that's something that you always have to consider the source.

[Jared Freed]

Right.

[Jackie Oshry]

You know exactly who stands to gain.

[Jared Freed]

Right, Right. I mean, there's so many stories like that. You're like, wow, this is really glowing for this person. You're like, they must be awesome. You're like, oh, that's their story.

[Jackie Oshry]

Right. Well, our first story's a little update because Travis Kelce and Taylor Swift went to a wedding this weekend of his cousins. I'm sure saw was like very normy behavior.

[Jared Freed]

Okay. And I didn't see, but I. Good for the. What, what a way to. Do you think that would make you happy? You're the normie cousin.

[Jackie Oshry]

I was talking about this because I did the show with Margo yesterday and she was like, don't you think, like, it's a little weird for the bride, like to have Taylor there? She like takes off all the attention.

[Jared Freed]

Taylor's the bride everywhere she goes.

[Jackie Oshry]

Right. But I do feel like you could seriously be like that insecure to be like, I don't want her there because she's going to take the spotlight off of me. Or you can recognize that it's like the coolest thing ever that Taylor Swift was at your wedding. Like, I think there are really two types of girls and I think more people would like, want the cloud of like, Taylor Swift was at my wedding. That's iconic. It's officially the best wedding in our friend group.

[Jared Freed]

Right.

[Jackie Oshry]

Even if it stunk it.

[Jared Freed]

Here's. You're, you're right. Because what we have to acknowledge is that Taylor Swift is a once in a generation star. She's Michael Jackson. You know, she had the largest tour ever. You know, money wise, you know, like that.

[Jackie Oshry]

Did you go to this era?

[Jared Freed]

I didn't go to the eras tour. I respect it.

[Jackie Oshry]

It.

[Jared Freed]

But I didn't go.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah, you have to say that.

[Jared Freed]

I mean, like, no, I'm like, But I'm just saying, like, I. She's categorically like one of the biggest celebrities on the planet ever.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah.

[Jared Freed]

So that I think. What's that? Like Elvis, Elvis, Taylor Swift, Michael Jackson. So it's funny, like, it's. There's a level of celebrity you have to be that every bride would be okay with being like, she couldn't be like to me if it was like, like I'm not to besmirch, but, like, besmirch away. But if it was like, I'm trying to think of who's a singer that I'd be like. If it was like, Gwen Stefani.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah. It's like, just a big to do. And is it worth.

[Jared Freed]

Gwen Stefani might be ever. I think, to. To be a. Because everyone's got to get a picture with Taylor. Taylor knows she's Santa Claus. Everyone's got to sit on her lap and get a picture. So Taylor knows that she's basically going to work. Like the. The bride has to know that everyone's gonna be at the Taylor exhibit at least for a minute during her wedding.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah.

[Jared Freed]

You. It has to make sense for everybody. So I think the. It is just a very interesting plight for that bride that I. I think if the grandma. If everyone at the wedding knows who the person is, then you can't be upset.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah. I think it's more iconic than it is. A detraction.

[Jared Freed]

Yeah. But it's dependent on how big the celebrity is. Like, if. Yeah, like, if Benson Boone came to your wedding, your grandmother would be like, who? Benson. Benson. You know, like, they were like, Benjamin Boone.

[Jackie Oshry]

But I do feel like if Benson Boone came to your wedding, it would be a distraction.

[Jared Freed]

He's flipping.

[Jackie Oshry]

He's, like, small enough of a person that I would make him sick. Like, I would never ask Taylor Swarm. Yeah. I would never ask Taylor to perform. Like, what are you crazy?

[Jared Freed]

Right?

[Jackie Oshry]

But like, I'm sorry, Benson, get to work. Get up.

[Jared Freed]

Right. It's a good point, Benson. But then Benson, what if he's like, this is my Saturday. I want to enjoy the open bar.

[Jackie Oshry]

When you're the bride, like, you are the star. Like, the way anyone would do anything for the. The bride wants Benson to sing. Come on up.

[Jared Freed]

That's. But that's the point where Benson goes, have fun. Thank you for the invite. I'll send a great gift. Like, I think Benson's too small for that reason.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah.

[Jared Freed]

Like, we don't want, you know, if I'm the pride, I don't want Benson Boone dimming my shine.

[Jackie Oshry]

Okay.

[Jared Freed]

I, I. And he's a very divisive person for some reason. Now, like, have you ever seen Tick Tocks where people hate him?

[Jackie Oshry]

No, I'm not on Tick Tock. So I'm just, like, I can understand why people, like, they think he's, like, mass produced.

[Jared Freed]

They think he's like, like, industry plan, basically, the. The artists out there. I think he's great.

[Jackie Oshry]

I think he's great too.

[Jared Freed]

I'm a huge fan.

[Jackie Oshry]

The songs hit like, okay, all these artists, like, complaining, like, you make a good song.

[Jared Freed]

Right? It's a very Gen Z. Like, you get to look like you're an artist and you know things by making fun of Benson Boone and making.

[Jackie Oshry]

Fun of things that are popular. But, like, sometimes things are popular are really bad. Like, and actually, most things, Benson Boone's songs that I've heard are really good.

[Jared Freed]

Whenever I get hate on TikTok, my. The thing you always have to remember when someone's like, this sucks. And I'm like, I have a hundred thousand views on something. The thing that you could always say back to them is like, well, someone loved this so much that it's the only reason you're seeing it. If you think about it like, that's. That's the sad part about algorithms is like, you need. It's fossil fuel. You know, you need someone. You need the hatred of losers to take off. Yeah, they're gas for my car.

[Jackie Oshry]

But that's why it's inherently negative.

[Jared Freed]

Right? That's why you have to go extreme. Everything's the best, everything's the worst. You can't be moderate. And I'm a moderate. I'm a guy who everything is good and bad. I just said that to you with dating, like, it's.

[Jackie Oshry]

You're in the middle.

[Jared Freed]

I'm a big middle loser. That's why Ariel won't get back to me.

[Jackie Oshry]

Well, the story from the wedding is that actually there's a picture going around of the table place for Taylor and Travis, and it says Taylor and Travis Kelce, like, leading some to believe. Are they secretly married? I for sure thought they got engaged that time that they had a party for the end of the hours tour and like, she had blurred out her ring finger and all the pictures and was hiding her. Like she was acting like an engaged person in some pictures, being like, huh? And then literally it's blurry. And then in other pictures being like this, knowing those were the ones she wanted to post.

[Jared Freed]

Right.

[Jackie Oshry]

So I actually would like, like, be open to the idea that they're secretly married.

[Jared Freed]

I can't believe that this is the story is whether or not they're married and not that this was a faux pas by the bride and groom to not put her like her. She's losing her last name.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah.

[Jared Freed]

Like, she's the most recognizable name in all the world. Like, like how many time. It's like when George Clooney started dating the doctor and they're like, the, you know, they started calling. You know, they were like. Like, George Clooney and the Doctor.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah, yeah.

[Jared Freed]

And it's like, people are like, no, she's got a career too.

[Jackie Oshry]

George Clooney's wife.

[Jared Freed]

Right, right. And then they do, like, whatever. Her name's husband now to get back at him that in a thing that he didn't even like.

[Jackie Oshry]

That's powerful, Jared. That's powerful.

[Jared Freed]

We change society. So I. I don't know. I can't believe that's not. The. The headline is like, how do you not have Taylor Swift and Travis Kelce? But if they're married, I don't know.

[Jackie Oshry]

Then they would be Taylor, Travis Kelce.

[Jared Freed]

Or they would be Kelsey Swift. I don't know. I don't know how that would work.

[Jackie Oshry]

I mean, I could see her being traditional in her personal life where it's like, I'll take my husband's name in, like, familial settings. And then, of course, like, I'm not Taylor Travis.

[Jared Freed]

No, but that's a reasonable.

[Jackie Oshry]

Right.

[Jared Freed]

That's just. People aren't reasonable.

[Jackie Oshry]

Do you think they're secretly married based on this?

[Jared Freed]

I think that what I know of Taylor is she is way more in tune with the Internet than most mega celebrities are. She knows the joke, she knows the inside talk, all the bracelets, the friendship bracelets. That's all, like, Internet chatter that she picked up on. I do think she likes this are they, aren't they thing that's going on. I think, like, the only reason to blur your finger is to keep up, keep the, you know, the gas on the fire. I. I am of the belief, as a Taylor fan, I think she. There's no bigger capitalist in our society. Like, I think she loves making money, so I think she will stoke the flames of her own story, even though there's no need to do it anymore. You've won, Taylor.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah. You've made you stay on top.

[Jared Freed]

Right. But, like, I don't know. I guess that's how you stay on top of, like, what's on top, you know?

[Jackie Oshry]

Like, I don't even think it's about money necessarily all the time at the this point. Like, she just has something to prove.

[Jared Freed]

Right. Well, that's the thing. I think that's. It's never about money once you've made that much money. It's making the money.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah.

[Jared Freed]

You know, it's being the top dog, you know? Like, you know, when you go, why do these billionaires keep making rockets? They get off to. Yeah, making the rockets. So I Think Taylor has that in her too. Like, I, like some people, like food, me, alcohol, me, women, me, but not as much as food and alcohol. And some people like making money. Like, if someone gave me $10 million right now, the, the way I would disappear off the face of the earth.

[Jackie Oshry]

Right.

[Jared Freed]

Like, I would do stand up. That's it.

[Jackie Oshry]

You'd only hear stand up. For the love of stand up.

[Jared Freed]

I love doing stand up. I, I, I love writing a bit. I love figuring it out. I love the puzzle of it. I love the puzzle of like trying to get more people to my stand up, which is doing podcasts and things like that. But I would just. You would be like Jared's like doing like a, a 20 seat room in the back of a bar in Delray.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah.

[Jared Freed]

And it would just be me doing for the 20 people. Like, I would do that and I'd have my house near the beach and they'd be like, is that Jared? I have big beard. I'd have.

[Jackie Oshry]

So that would be enough for 10 million, would just be enough for you.

[Jared Freed]

I think 10 mil would get from there. I, I don't know, maybe I gotta look up, I gotta do some.

[Jackie Oshry]

Are you high maintenance?

[Jared Freed]

I am until I'm not. Like, I, I, again, I like to complain, but I don't need very much. Like, I, I think, like, but I, I don't know, maybe because I'm a slob, I'm not like, pride, right? I don't know. Like, I, I just. Are you high maintenance? Like, do you.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yes.

[Jared Freed]

You have needed needs?

[Jackie Oshry]

I have needs, but I, I handle my needs. That's why I don't think I'm high maintenance. I don't make it other people's problem. I take it all on. But I have needs.

[Jared Freed]

Like, I remember, you know, if you could fly first class, never private, the rest of your life, that's the only thing you could get. Would you, would you be okay with that?

[Jackie Oshry]

No. I want the potential.

[Jared Freed]

You want the pride? You want the potential?

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah, yeah. Like, I want it.

[Jared Freed]

Yeah, right. I, Once you've flown private. I've done it a couple times. Just the not going, getting there. The, the minute the plane takes off is like, you realize how crazy that is?

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah.

[Jared Freed]

And you're like, I can't not see this again.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah, yeah.

[Jared Freed]

You know, I know I've met a few comics who go private to their gigs and I've talked to them about, I've like asked them, like, how do you be relatable and be. I, I watch one comic, very famous comedian Go up at the Cellar. He told this whole thing about first class. And then he got off stage. He's like, I haven't flown commercial in, like, 30 years. And I was like, that's so funny that he's still doing airplane stuff.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah.

[Jared Freed]

And I. I talked to another comic, and he was like. I was like, you know, he was famous guy. And I go, well, what. I go, you know, what are your fan. They go, we've started talking about it, like, in there publicly. Like, because it's hard to talk about. Like, listen, I don't cry for the plight of the private flyer.

[Jackie Oshry]

Right?

[Jared Freed]

But I. In their world.

[Jackie Oshry]

But it could go. It could go south. Like, it might not hit the way you think.

[Jared Freed]

It's just. You're trying to relate to a big crowd of people, and you have to explain that you fly private.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah.

[Jared Freed]

And they were saying. They were like, it's like having. It's like time travel. And they were like, I get home and sleep in my own bed, and I get all that time back. And I'm like, yeah, that's a good point. I get that. But 10 million wouldn't get me to practice private. That's the problem. No, you need, like, a hundred million to be private forever. This is what people listen for, the relatable humor.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah. No, but this is like, Claudia and I always talk about, like, if we land in the lottery, like, what would we do?

[Jared Freed]

What would you do? Oh, would you do this show still?

[Jackie Oshry]

I. I think, yeah, once a week. I think maybe once a week. But I think in addition to, like, you know, the business element of it, like, I think especially as a mom, like, in different. Different aspects of, like, my life, it's nice to, like, have adult conversation, like, flex my creative muscles, come, like, funny, and, like, stay. Because you can get, like, pregnancy brain, mom fog, like, all of these things. But I do think the show, like, keeps me sharper than I would be if I wasn't, like, forced to talk all the time.

[Jared Freed]

Right.

[Jackie Oshry]

So I. I think, yeah. And we would talk about how life is in the lottery.

[Jared Freed]

Right. The show would probably be like, well, it can go either direction. I would think the show, like, any podcast I would do, if I did once a month, like, would be like, jet fuel.

[Jackie Oshry]

I have, like, 30 stories, five hours long.

[Jared Freed]

Do you know how many women like Arielle Frankel that I had would be dumped by in a month? You know how many stories I would have?

[Jackie Oshry]

Oh, my gosh. Okay, we need to get into our next story, which is another.

[Jared Freed]

How was the wedding?

[Jackie Oshry]

I Think it was great. It looked really nice, and I wish him a lifetime of happiness.

[Jared Freed]

Do you think you'd be okay with being referred to as the normie wedding?

[Jackie Oshry]

Yes, if in the context of Taylor Swift, like, everybody, that's fair. So, like, that's not an insult.

[Jared Freed]

She changes everything. She's the son.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah.

[Jared Freed]

Yeah.

[Jackie Oshry]

Our next story is another. Like, we're just going to fall down the rabbit hole here because Justin Baldoni's $400 million countersuit against Blake Lively and Ryan Reynolds has been dismissed by a judge. This is a major setback for Justin Baldoni as his countersuit against Blake, Ryan, and their publicist, as well as his lawsuit against the New York been tossed out by a judge. The judge granted the motion to dismiss the $400 million lawsuit filed by Baldoni and the Wayfarer parties against Lively and Reynolds, which alleged extortion and defamation, as well as a $250 million defamation lawsuit against the Times. The judge noted, though, that Baldon's legal team can still amend the claims for breach of implied covenant and tortious interference with contract if they choose to, with a deadline of June 23rd. So. So does this end everything? Like, I just never. Is this story over yet?

[Jared Freed]

I don't think it's ever gonna be over.

[Jackie Oshry]

Like, are we still going to trial in March? Yes.

[Jared Freed]

Oh, they are, right? Well, I thought it was all tossed. I thought this was, like, the end.

[Jackie Oshry]

I pray again.

[Jared Freed]

I, I. This is a story that I've talked about, of course, and it started as, oh, this is a fun.

[Jackie Oshry]

So good for content.

[Jared Freed]

Right? Hilarious.

[Jackie Oshry]

Oh, my gosh. Hot takes left, right? Really? No. Like, both of these people are incredibly successful. Like, like, there's no one that you feel so sorry for. So, like, however you want to come out of it, like, there's no, like, wrong thing to say.

[Jared Freed]

I don't. It started as a. I. I don't know. There's so many subjects here that are, like, real subjects that people deal with that are serious subjects. So, like, I. When I chew on the bone of a story, I'm always like, oh, fun story. Like, I. I don't want to be in the world of someone going, you just reminded me of this horrific thing from my life. So when it started as, like, like, Blake Lively is, like, kind of a monster, I was like, fun page six. And then it turned into a harassment story and a lawsuit, and then you go, and I kind of did the Homer Simpson into the Bush thing because.

[Jackie Oshry]

I was like, you went hard against Blake in the beginning.

[Jared Freed]

I didn't go hard. But I was just like, you were.

[Jackie Oshry]

Anti Blake, but that's fine.

[Jared Freed]

Well, I just thought it was funny, cuz Blake was one of those people where that you could see there was like some page six stories of like, Blake was in line at this restaurant. What's the restaurant with the Italian place with the lasagna that's like in circles?

[Jackie Oshry]

Carbone?

[Jared Freed]

No, it's in the West Village. It's on Greenwich Avenue.

[Jackie Oshry]

You're the West Village.

[Jared Freed]

I know. I'm the West Village girly. I. She was like seen at this restaurant, like signing autographs and she ate like a normal person. I was like. And I remember reading this and going, something's off. Like, why is this so glowing to her?

[Jackie Oshry]

But I also feel like I saw a story today, something about how she was shopping and she was rude and it's like the same thing on both sides. Like, I feel like, like, you know, people planting negative stories about her, people planning positive. I literally don't care. I'm sure she's a massive diva. Like, she's one of the biggest stars in the world.

[Jared Freed]

Sure.

[Jackie Oshry]

I don't care. Like, I really don't care. She's like, nicest.

[Jared Freed]

Not caring is like kind of the funnest place to be. Where you go, wow, I guess this person is planting stories this way, this person's planning stories that way. But then when it started getting into subjects where I was like, I'm going to like, back out. Like, and then, then it got fun again. Like going back and forth, forth between horrific and fun.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah.

[Jared Freed]

And I, there's a point where this, we're so far away. And what people try to do when you talk about something like this is they try to, like, they try to morally discredit you. So they say, how could you talk about this subject? Like, and you go, why? I was talking about them saying hi to someone in line at Carbone, you know, Like, I, I, you know, so. And then it just becomes not fun and gross. But I do. Like, I, for me, Justin Baldoni, like, I think they both keep this, this sticks to them in the way that Coke and Pepsi. The first thing out of your mouth, like, what's the first thing you think of with Blake Lively? I heard she's a terror, you know, and then what's the thing you. First thing you think of? Justin Balboni.

[Jackie Oshry]

It's inseparable.

[Jared Freed]

He might be a horrific, you know, flag waving fake feminist. Fake feminist harasser.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Jared Freed]

So they both come out worse. Net negative.

[Jackie Oshry]

They need to have a Meeting actually and be done with this.

[Jared Freed]

Come out with their hands held high in the sky.

[Jackie Oshry]

Everything that we've seen, I think he has more like I feel like she could get over it because like it seems like she tried to steal his movie. It didn't work out but like his whole reputation is like he has Deadpool. They'll be fine. I just got Blake Brown Beauty in the mail. They just sent me PR like the whole kit her hair care line. I don't know why because I jumped ship recently like very publicly. But I will say I've really enjoyed the hair care. So she has her hair. She, they have their movies, they have their family. They'll be fine. Justin Maldoni, his whole name is riding on this suit. So it is a little bit more real for him at this point. But they do need to meet and like drop it because it's so bad for both of them and nothing good is going to come of this. The more and every like people are so tired of talking about it, so tired of hearing about it. Especially now that he's had this loss. I feel like he has other irons in the fire of like how he can get his name back. But, but, and people say defamation is hard to prove so of course this was thrown out.

[Jared Freed]

But I'm telling you he needs that more than she does. I, I, I, and I'm speaking about.

[Jackie Oshry]

This needs to let it go more than she needs to let it go.

[Jared Freed]

No, I think he needs her to hold his hand up in the sky more than she needs. They need to talk about it. She doesn't need to talk about it. He needs to talk about it with her and like have this front facing public thing. I, I'm probably, maybe I'm only saying this because I'm a man. I just like, like I can see I don't think we ever think of him as anything other than that guy from the lawsuit. And I think the it's either he goes and talks with her and is like, hey can we like both and she's nice to him and has and help helps him through that or here's another direction for Justin. Him and Kirk Cameron get together and they create the faith based romcom that everyone is asking for. Like that I think he either goes Kirk Cameron way right, you know, you know, go Moms of America or he gets Blake to help him out.

[Jackie Oshry]

But I think things are worse for her right now than for him. I think a lot of, I think most people are on his side.

[Jared Freed]

But I'm just saying like I'm. I'm thinking like, grandma, you know, grandma might know that Blake Lively is tough to deal with. Tough to deal with on set. Is different than like, you created a. An environment of harassment.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah, I don't think that plane was landed.

[Jared Freed]

At least that's the only thing. I don't know him from anything else but this movie.

[Jackie Oshry]

Me neither.

[Jared Freed]

Her. It could be 7,000 other things. Yeah, Hair care. But I agree with the Upper east side.

[Jackie Oshry]

Whatever the people this is like, do or die for. This is all he has. And he was supposed to have the next movie and. And now obviously there can't be a next movie except his character. I didn't read the sequel, but I don't think his character would be in the same.

[Jared Freed]

Oh, next. There's a next movie.

[Jackie Oshry]

That's what this is all about. Like, they want her and Ryan, like, wanted to take the second movie, like, from him. Cuz he had the rights to everything. And so that's what he alleges. And like, that. That that was their motivation behind smearing him. This soul snatcher, like the movie Snatchers. I just.

[Jared Freed]

Like you said, this is so down the rabbit hole that like, like, I don't even know what this is really about, you know, like, but.

[Jackie Oshry]

And then people are like, well, did she just have a crush on him?

[Jared Freed]

It's like, see, this is crazy.

[Jackie Oshry]

And then like, Ryan got mad.

[Jared Freed]

Right? This is like the funniest. Like, that's what's so funny about it is like, you could line 10 people up and ask them about this story, they would have 10 different answers.

[Jackie Oshry]

You know what? Let me just tell you. That's literally what I've been doing the last two weeks, doing the show with different co hosts. Because every single day there's something in the news about it. And like, I try to ignore as much as I can, but I've tried to ignore it. There have been like, the. This case being thrown out, like, is something that if we're following the story, we have to touch on. So I have had this conversation with so many different people. I'm like, we all agree, like, we need a moratorium on this story. Nobody wants to be here. We're not having fun anymore. And it's not good for anyone.

[Jared Freed]

It's not. And it's like, that's why, like, that's why I Homer Simpson this one. Because I was like, there's nowhere I'm gonna get from this story to even have like, a fun bit. Bit? No, like, it's not even a fun bit.

[Jackie Oshry]

Like, it's not enjoyable for any, like. No, no part of it is enjoyable.

[Jared Freed]

Because I got a text from a friend yesterday. The friend I talked to every day. He was my best easy there. I, I, he was like, it's thrown out to me. It was over. Like, I was like. And then we discussed this.

[Jackie Oshry]

What is he? Does he care about pop culture bestie? Like, does he, that's all we talk about. Does he, what does he do for work?

[Jared Freed]

He's not in.

[Jackie Oshry]

He has like a regular job.

[Jared Freed]

Yeah, he's like an account mountain.

[Jackie Oshry]

That's hysterical.

[Jared Freed]

Yeah, this is what we talk about. No, this is like our whole lives is what we've talked about. We love gnawing on the bone of stupid stuff.

[Jackie Oshry]

That is so funny. Well, our next story, I'll be interested to get your thoughts.

[Jared Freed]

Let me just acknowledge to some people that story is like the opposite of stupid. Do you know what I mean? Like, they're like, they see a lot of themselves in it and I can't really control that. Like, I feel bad for that person, but I'm also like, come halfway to me and know that that's not why I'm here. And or I would never do that to make you feel bad, you know?

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah, it's a lot.

[Jared Freed]

It's a lot.

[Jackie Oshry]

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[Jared Freed]

Our modern day philosopher, Aaron Rodgers.

[Jackie Oshry]

Right. And I said he's not going out this way. He will Take he will go to another team. That's like. I watched the Enigma documentary of his. I was like, this is. He literally like broke himself trying to heal his Achilles heel, like to just not play anymore. No, no, no. He signed with the Steelers. I think she has to make a charitable donation now because I won.

[Jared Freed]

Oh, good. Yeah, this is. This is nice.

[Jackie Oshry]

In his photo, I would have backed your bet. You would have?

[Jared Freed]

Yeah.

[Jackie Oshry]

I thought it was a sound bet.

[Jared Freed]

She's absolutely taken.

[Jackie Oshry]

The only way he wouldn't have played anymore is if no one wanted to take him. But I think, you know, there's always the Browns. Like some team will take him just to sell tickets, right?

[Jared Freed]

And he's still better than like, like half the league's quarterbacks. Like, like, like to say he's bad is like not the strongest. Take like he's a. He's one of the top 15 to 20 quarterbacks in the world, right?

[Jackie Oshry]

Like he's not zero. So as long as he's not zero and he wants to play, there'll be a team for him, right? In his photo signing with the Steelers.

[Jared Freed]

He'S also the most insufferable human being I've ever.

[Jackie Oshry]

You're not an Aaron fan.

[Jared Freed]

This guy stinks.

[Jackie Oshry]

Aaron's party.

[Jared Freed]

Aaron's party. I was just in Pittsburgh. I was just did shows in Pittsburgh and Pittsburgh's the biggest football town in the world. No one cares about football more than a Pittsburgh Steelers fan. But they are Steelers fans. They love the culture, hard working grit and they are so not excited.

[Jackie Oshry]

They're not. That's. That's a vibe.

[Jared Freed]

The vibe I got was like, please don't ruin. Don't embarrass our team. It's like it's like your sister marrying a guy that you're like, as long as she's happy.

[Jackie Oshry]

But could you see like his level of like, passion and theirs if they can get on the same page, like them just being like obsessed.

[Jared Freed]

Listen the steel.

[Jackie Oshry]

Like if he starts winning for them and like winning fix everything. He's Steelers proud. And then they have that, like, that zeal.

[Jared Freed]

Winning is the. Is the fix all for anything. Making money and winning are two things that make everyone happy. Smooth everything out. The minute you stop making money, you make a little less the next month. Hey, why are you doing the ad read that way. You know, Aaron Rodgers to me is a narcissist who loves himself more than anyone else on earth. He thinks his opinion is smart and revolutionary. He thinks that going to a quiet room and closing his eyes for A few hours makes him somehow, somehow on a different level than the rest of us. And because he can throw a football and he gets paid $10 million a year, he can believe that. I think that if they're winning, they'll be okay. If they start losing and he starts doing things that make sure Aaron Rodgers looks good, that's what worries Steelers fans the most because they love it to me, to Steelers fans. And I'm, listen, I'm a, I'm a football fan. I've went to Penn State, so I know Steelers folks, fans very well. They just want the team, wave the towel, go team. And, and just be. They want the family to be good.

[Jackie Oshry]

And is he a team player?

[Jared Freed]

I think if you win, you are.

[Jackie Oshry]

But, you know, but even, even if they lose, like, I feel like even with the jets, like, they stung. They was really bad all around, but like, he was like in with them through the losses, like, giving pep talks.

[Jared Freed]

And he also had a coach that got fired in the offensive court, you know, like all. But I'm the coach got fired.

[Jackie Oshry]

Like, it wasn't in the documentary.

[Jared Freed]

Yeah, that might have been left out of the documentary he made about himself.

[Jackie Oshry]

Did he make it?

[Jared Freed]

Yes. He doesn't just do a document. I just think he's like, he is just. I, I, it is that thing of like, if you can throw a football now, I have to like, hear you wax on.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah.

[Jared Freed]

You know, like, no. You know, so I don't know. I, I do think the Steelers, like, I could, I just, I mean, I went on stage every night. The last weekend was like, Aaron Rodgers. And it was just like this, like, okay, I hope it goes well.

[Jackie Oshry]

Stealing themselves. I think it's like a wait and see situation. He'll have to prove himself.

[Jared Freed]

But this is a passionate town that is never wait and say, go Steelers and you go, Aaron Rodgers. What do we think? And they're like, we're just hoping for the best. You know, it's like a, you know, I used to say that about Buffalo. Like, the, the, the Buffalo fans were always like, they treated the Bills like it was their, like, like in a, in and out of rehab younger brother. They're just like, no, no, no, be nice to him. He's gonna be okay. No, we hope for the best. And we just don't speak too loudly around Buffalo Bill. You know, like, same feeling with this Buffalo Bill.

[Jackie Oshry]

Okay, I understand. It will be exciting for the, the NFL storyline, though, like to see if, because if it goes north, great. If it goes south, south, interesting.

[Jared Freed]

If it goes South. It will be interesting. Listen, he's never going to be bigger than the Steelers to Pittsburgh people. So, so no one's going to take his side. I think he knows that. I think in New York, the Jets, there's, there's division already. People know they're a bad franchise.

[Jackie Oshry]

You could blame it on a million things.

[Jared Freed]

Right. But they're like Steelers. It's like salute the flag.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah.

[Jared Freed]

So it, I think he knows that. I think he's smarter than, than that.

[Jackie Oshry]

Well, anyways, the story at hand is on his hand. In the picture, he's wearing a ring on his ring finger. On his married finger. He is, like, with a new girl. And people are wondering if another one, if he's married. It also sort of looks like an aura ring, which you're not supposed to wear on your ring finger, but. And it actually doesn't look like it does.

[Jared Freed]

That looks like a ring.

[Jackie Oshry]

That looks like a ring.

[Jared Freed]

That looks like one of those, like, rubber rings that Midwestern dudes wear with their Vori shorts. At the gym. Gym.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah, at the gym. Like, I'm taking off my wedding ring and I'm putting on my rubber ring.

[Jared Freed]

Right. I very, it's, it's dude who very much, you know, wears Vori and bonobos type of ring.

[Jackie Oshry]

Do you think Aaron Rodgers is married to Taylor Swift?

[Jared Freed]

Mr. And Mrs. Smith Swift? I don't think he's married. But that ring stuff to, like, it's.

[Jackie Oshry]

Like he's literally wearing a wedding ring, Right? He's not married.

[Jared Freed]

I, I, well, maybe sometimes it's like.

[Jackie Oshry]

It'S just, it's what you're looking at.

[Jared Freed]

Like, well, here's the beautiful thing about, like, being Aaron Rodgers is like, it's, you get to always be like, it's about the football. So, like, oh, we're not. I'm. What am I going to talk about? Am I married? Why would you care if I'm married?

[Jackie Oshry]

But he knows.

[Jared Freed]

I do think he knows people care, I think in the way Taylor Swift, like, I'll be fair to Taylor. I think he's one of those people who knows what's being written and said about him. I wouldn't be surprised if he heard me on this podcast.

[Jackie Oshry]

Oh, I wouldn't be surprised. But we're really kind to Aaron, so.

[Jared Freed]

I just said he's stank, so.

[Jackie Oshry]

But I think that's, like, that's balanced, you know, Right.

[Jared Freed]

Yin and the yang.

[Jackie Oshry]

What he did to Shailene, I don't know what he did, but Danica, Danica.

[Jared Freed]

Just came out And Olivia.

[Jackie Oshry]

What about Olivia?

[Jared Freed]

What about Danica? Was like. She was pretty damning without. It was like. That was a really hard part of her life.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah.

[Jared Freed]

That, you know, the Aaron Rodgers split.

[Jackie Oshry]

And then his family. There's just.

[Jared Freed]

There's a lot. That's the thing.

[Jackie Oshry]

He is a lot in his way.

[Jared Freed]

When you said he's interesting. He is interesting.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah.

[Jared Freed]

I do think he is interesting by his own design.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah.

[Jared Freed]

Like, I, I.

[Jackie Oshry]

You don't think he's inherently just an interesting person, so, like, things follow him. You think that he.

[Jared Freed]

I think when you make a documentary about yourself where you're the hero, like, you think of yourself a certain way, you think of yourself as the underdog. I was never dra. You know, un. Un recruited. Had to go to Cal. Had to transfer. I know the story gets, you know, has to back up. Rhett Far was taken the draft. Waiting in the draft. Waiting room.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah.

[Jared Freed]

He is writing the story. You know, sometimes I'm literally la.

[Jackie Oshry]

Wrapping it up.

[Jared Freed]

I'm like, right.

[Jackie Oshry]

He was passed over in the job. He's been through so much.

[Jared Freed]

It's like. It's like the our story page on the wedding website. Women write that for themselves. Yeah, they write. Well, at first, I wasn't into him, but then he took me out 7,000 times. You know, like, it's like their own. That's their own version of writing Marvel.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah. You know, that is so funny.

[Jared Freed]

We all love being the underdog. That's, by the way. Like, that is. We love it. No one believes they're the villain. No one believes they're the Hawks and the Mighty Ducks. We're all the Ducks.

[Jackie Oshry]

We're all the Ducks. Right, Our next story, we're actually gonna skip ahead to our Love island story because Love island beyond the Villa trailer and premiere date have been set at Peacock. So Peacock just announced that Love island, last season's Love island, is getting a spinoff show of, like, following them in la. Like, Vanderpump rules style.

[Jared Freed]

Ooh.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah. So the trailer premiered yesterday, and it played after last night's episode of Love Island. Season 6. Islanders will be on Love island beyond the Villa, which will premiere on Sunday, July 13. The series cast includes, like, a bunch of the stars from last season and appearances from other former islanders. It features Ariana as well, that they visit her sandwich shop. Something about her. And, yeah, this is a first of its kind. I think it's an amazing idea.

[Jared Freed]

Well, it's them looking at the valley and going, we can outdo that.

[Jackie Oshry]

No. And it's like, we had this amazing season with this great cast, and it was like, you know, lightning in a bottle. Why does it have to end there? Like, we. Now we have these stars. Why not put them back on tv? And why do we have to wait till someone else picks them up? Like a Vanderpump Rules or a Summer House? Like, why can't we make our own show?

[Jared Freed]

Right. No, this is. I mean, this is the. The streaming wars kind of happening before our eyes again. Like, I bring up the Valley because that's a show where they're like, oh, we'll take all these people and put them in this one. And they're like, well, we have people. It's. It's the good and bad of the follower economy, where it's like, oh, they have a following, so put them on this show. The good part about these guys is they had a successful season.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah.

[Jared Freed]

So there is interest. They are interesting. They are performative in the way we want them to be performative. So this is. I think this comes from a good place of, like, they like them.

[Jackie Oshry]

It's a safer bet to go with people who have a record of being good on reality tv. Even if you seem interesting or even name that we've heard of, like.

[Jared Freed]

Right.

[Jackie Oshry]

We were just talking about this yesterday with Rachel Zoe going on Real Housewives of New York. Like, yes, she's interesting, but don't forget, she had her own show. Like, she can do the job as opposed to other big names who go on Real Housewives who flop.

[Jared Freed]

But.

[Jackie Oshry]

But that's because we. They're untested. You know, they could be good, but they could also not be. Just because they have a name we know doesn't mean much.

[Jared Freed]

Some people get a taste for that, and they realize they don't like it right away. Like, I think it's like, you know, you have something go vi. You never. A lot of this happens a lot on TikTok, which you're not on. But I. I think, you know that, like, someone goes viral for something and then they do it to death.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah.

[Jared Freed]

You know, you can, like, they go. And you can tell that person liked the feeling of going viral. They wanted to make sure they went viral again. So, you know, if they, you know, go viral for, like, hey, I'm gonna bop my head to music from the early 2000s. Oh, that. That works.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah.

[Jared Freed]

So keep on playing the hits.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah.

[Jared Freed]

And they keep going with. With it. If that, you know, if they wanted to be creative, they would do something else that fit their create, you know, creative muscle.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah.

[Jared Freed]

So I. I think is this is a no brainer. Like, if you're Peacock, especially.

[Jackie Oshry]

No, it's a no brainer. But they don't. But people don't do this. You know, no one's ever given the Bachelor. The people who came from a good season of the Bachelor then follow those girls in la like, it's right, you.

[Jared Freed]

Know, Bachelor, the Bachelor universe. To me, that I think they've made too much money to ever. To me, they're the $10 million. We do this once a week. Like, we've already made our money. I don't want to do anymore.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah, no, they're not really acting competitively.

[Jared Freed]

Right. I think for the Bachelor and it's what bothers me because, like, there's so many things where it's like, we're doing this date again. Yeah, we did this date. You could put 10 minutes of thought and brains. One brainstorming session would have an even better date.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah.

[Jared Freed]

And you can tell it wasn't done. So for this, it's like, like, you know, the Bachelor's like, oh, we could have this and this. And then they go, no, they're making money. It's a cash cow. And. But I like that. I think Peacock is like one of those things where they're like, we're fighting for our lives.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah. They're trying the next show even. They do like Real Housewives, Ultimate Girls Trip. They do these like alumni shows. I think they do traders. Like, I think they've really seen the value in like repurposing reality TV stars who have a proven track record.

[Jared Freed]

Right.

[Jackie Oshry]

I think that's like a really, really sound formula.

[Jared Freed]

I mean, look at, you know, like, I'm in and out of Survivor, but, like, I used to be big on Survivor back in the day. Seeing Boston Rob, like, back. I love that so much.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah.

[Jared Freed]

This is a guy who performed. He was amazing on tv. This is what he's meant to do. And then you see him on Traitors. You're like, yes.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah.

[Jared Freed]

Bring back this guy who's like, just good, you know?

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah. You don't. It doesn't have to be so hard.

[Jared Freed]

Right.

[Jackie Oshry]

So that's very exciting. Of course, the one season I didn't watch, so I don't know who any of these people are. And I might watch the show actually looks like really good. And especially if these were my people, like, if these were any of the seasons I watched or like, I don't know, Love Island UK season five. People like, oh, my God, I'd be freaking out. So I understand people are really excited.

[Jared Freed]

Is it them trying to, like, make it in Hollywood?

[Jackie Oshry]

That's like, from what I saw. It's like the couples from the show, like, some of them are still couples. They're like living together, drama amongst friends. I think some of like the. The BFFs, the besties, like, having some infighting. Just. It's like, I don't know what you would call it.

[Jared Freed]

Like a docu series.

[Jackie Oshry]

A docu series.

[Jared Freed]

I think you know who's done this well, underratedly. 90 Day Fiance. 90 Day Fiance has done a really good job of like, hey, we're gonna like, we had this couple bring them into this next show and they have them watching on the couch. They do a good job of keeping the 90 day community, you know, up and running abreast. Yeah.

[Jackie Oshry]

Well, that is all the time that we have for today. I feel so sorry for the Dear Toasters community because you guys are gonna have to be on pause too much. I know. We just had so many great conversations and we, like, are out of time and I want to get this episode up. But like, thank you.

[Jared Freed]

Thank you. This is such a pleasure.

[Jackie Oshry]

This was such a pleasure. And I'm sorry to the dtq. I will make it up to you.

[Jared Freed]

I'll come back and do a question.

[Jackie Oshry]

I do this all this time where like, the episode goes too long. We don't have time for Dear Toasters. And so, like, we push it to the next day or like, sometimes doesn't happen that week. The backlash we get. So I'm ready for it. I understand Lately, Jared, blame me if.

[Jared Freed]

You want some email. I. I answered dating emails on my Monday episode of J Train. I have two podcasts.

[Jackie Oshry]

Right. Well, that's. Tell us everywhere. We can follow you and listen to you. No, no, no.

[Jared Freed]

The J Train podcast is daily. I do Mondays, I take emails. Tuesdays, people write in with their complaints and I complain with them. It's a complaint duet. Wednesdays is chitchat. Wednesday I have a guest. I would love to have you on just chitchat.

[Jackie Oshry]

Little chitchat we have still. There's so much left unsaid.

[Jared Freed]

We have a lot to talk about. Especially I need, you know, I need like Florida reos.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah.

[Jared Freed]

Thursday, I do pop culture Thursday. That's why I like pop seeing Page six and like, you know, I. I just read Page six and I just go off, off the top my of the dome. And then I do the U up podcast with B you up every Wednesday and Friday we talk about dating. We take Modern dating podcasts. We've been doing it for seven years and it's a pleasure to do. And I, you know, I'm like the male. I give you whatever the guy's thinking.

[Jackie Oshry]

That's what we need.

[Jared Freed]

Yeah.

[Jackie Oshry]

And we do cherish that advice. I hope you guys got some good dating tips from Jared. A little male pov.

[Jared Freed]

You have to take what I say and just know that like, I'm speaking honestly about my own situation. I'm not an expert. And I'm giving you basically, if I'm thinking it, I'm within 10% of any guy you're dating because most people are very similar. Similar. You know, like we're all 10 away from each other, how we're feeling, how we're thinking. So whoever you're dealing with isn't a hundred percent away from me.

[Jackie Oshry]

Right.

[Jared Freed]

You know, if you do the math on it, if you're logical. But yeah. So the, the UA podcast has been, it's such a pleasure to do and I love working with batches. So it's, it's great. Yeah. So, and then 37 is single. It's a stand up special you could watch with your parents, you could watch with your friends. I'm sure they'll relate to it.

[Jackie Oshry]

Love that. And you're Jared Freed on Instagram @jaredfreed read. Love that. Well, thank you so much for being here. This was an absolute pleasure and we will see you all tomorrow. Love ya. Bye.