The Philadelphia Chips: Tuesday, February 11th, 2025

Summary

Podcast Summary: The Toast – "The Philadelphia Chips" (February 11, 2025)

Hosts: Jackie & Claudia Oshry

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1. Overcoming Illness and Embracing New Beginnings

The episode kicks off with Jackie sharing her recent battle with the flu. Despite being under the weather, Jackie received new clothing deliveries, leading to a fresh wardrobe that boosted her spirits.

Jackie [00:15]: "I feel brand new. One, because I'm wearing new clothes. But two, because I'm feeling so much better."

Claudia echoes a sense of gratitude for good health, emphasizing how everyday comforts are often taken for granted.

Claudia [00:46]: "Isn't it just one of those days where you're feeling extreme gratitude for your health?"

2. Claudia's Baking Adventure and New Content Series

Claudia delves into her recent culinary endeavors, admitting her usual struggles with cooking. Motivated by a Patreon request, she took on the challenge of baking muffins, leading to the creation of a new content series titled "Barefoot Conturdi."

Claudia [02:32]: "I'm the Barefoot Contessa. I'm the Barefoot."

The duo humorously discuss the outcomes of Claudia's baking attempts, highlighting both successes and mishaps.

Claudia [03:10]: "But let's say I had 11 muffins. As of this morning, there were three left."

Jackie compliments Claudia’s efforts, while Claudia reflects on her unique approach to content creation, branding herself as a "chaos creator."

Jackie [03:20]: "Olive and Butters."

Claudia [04:30]: "I'm just kind of giving, like, some people are comfort creators. And I realized I'm a chaos creator here."

3. Super Bowl Recap: Eagles vs. Chiefs and Emotional Reactions

A significant portion of the discussion centers around the recent Super Bowl, where the Philadelphia Eagles triumphed over the Kansas City Chiefs. Jackie shares a detailed statement from Jason Kelce, reflecting on the complex emotions tied to the Eagles' victory and his brother Travis's loss.

Jackie [22:10]: "Congratulations to the Philadelphia Eagles, my former teammates and friends, on being Super Bowl Licks champions."

Claudia and Jackie explore the metaphorical "chip" players carry, relating it to personal struggles and professional challenges.

Claudia [14:10]: "We see them at the meetings."

Jackie [15:00]: "When I think of people, I'm going to text you someone's name of, like, the anti chip."

They commend figures like Joan Rivers and Kiki Palmer for embodying the "chip" metaphor, symbolizing resilience and the drive to overcome being overlooked.

Claudia [14:37]: "Somebody had a bigger chip on her shoulder than Joan Rivers."

Jackie [15:03]: "Like, Kelly Clarkson sized chip."

4. Exploring the "Chip": Emotional Burdens and Personal Growth

The hosts delve deeper into the concept of the "chip," discussing how it serves as both a burden and a motivator in their lives.

Jackie [14:21]: "But the chip is so real. What I will also say about the chip is that it propels us towards greatness."

Claudia relates the "chip" to societal perceptions and personal aspirations, highlighting the importance of addressing and overcoming these internal challenges.

Claudia [13:34]: "I feel like we actually have more in common. We're more similar than we are different."

5. Pop Culture Highlights: Sabrina Carpenter and Pete Davidson

The conversation shifts to recent pop culture events, spotlighting Sabrina Carpenter's feature on Vogue and Pete Davidson’s journey in removing his tattoos.

Sabrina Carpenter on Vogue:

Claudia [29:31]: "Sabrina Carpenter is on the cover of Vogue. The photos are very Marilyn Monroe inspired. She's talking about her career."

Jackie discusses Sabrina's song "Skin," pondering how different choices in her musical responses might have altered her public reception.

Claudia [32:16]: "I would love to see an alternate universe, like, what would have happened if the song that Sabrina released in response to all the drama wasn't 'Skin.'"

Pete Davidson's Tattoo Removal:

Claudia [36:02]: "Pete Davidson strips down to his undies for Reformation after his tattoo removal."

Jackie emphasizes the message behind Pete’s decision, encouraging listeners to think twice before getting tattoos due to their long-term implications.

Jackie [39:23]: "Most people have not... A lot of people have a lot of tattoos. No regrets. But it's a hard thing to regret."

6. "Dear Toasters" Advice Segment

In the beloved advice segment, "Dear Toasters," Jackie and Claudia address listener-submitted relationship dilemmas.

First Submission: Navigating Insecurities with a Blind Boyfriend

A listener grapples with her blind boyfriend’s inquiries about her weight, causing her insecurity despite his inability to see.

Claudia [58:58]: "I feel like he might have legitimate reasons for asking. It's like he can't see you, so he just wants to pick you up if..."

Jackie suggests open communication to understand the boyfriend's motives, fostering a supportive dialogue.

Jackie [61:06]: "I think I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt. So I would just ask him, like, why he wants to know."

Second Submission: Coping with a Partner Peeing in the Sink

Another listener expresses discomfort over her husband's habit of urinating in the bathroom sink, seeking validation and solutions.

Claudia [72:45]: "I back the toaster here. Like, he should not be doing this."

Jackie advises setting clear boundaries and possibly implementing practical changes to deter the behavior.

Jackie [69:12]: "I think it's very reasonable to ask and insist that he uses the toilet instead of the sink where you wash your face and brush your teeth."

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7. TV Programming News: The Bachelorette Paused for Summer 2025

In the closing segments, Jackie and Claudia discuss the temporary halt of "The Bachelorette" by ABC, speculating on the implications for the long-running franchise.

Claudia [52:00]: "It's like get a job so I could see like the Golden Bachelorette or the Bachelorette being the first to go."

They compare it to other dating shows, highlighting the evolving landscape of reality TV and audience preferences.

Jackie [55:40]: "Bachelor in Paradise... I don't think it was good enough sometimes, but it's hard."

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Conclusion

Throughout the episode, Jackie and Claudia blend personal anecdotes, pop culture commentary, and listener interactions to create an engaging and relatable narrative. Their discussions on overcoming personal challenges, dissecting cultural phenomena, and providing heartfelt advice resonate with a diverse audience, making "The Toast" a staple for listeners seeking both entertainment and support.

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Notable Quotes:

• Claudia [00:46]: "Isn't it just one of those days where you're feeling extreme gratitude for your health?"
• Jackie [00:15]: "I feel brand new. One, because I'm wearing new clothes. But two, because I'm feeling so much better."
• Claudia [04:30]: "I'm just kind of giving, like, some people are comfort creators. And I realized I'm a chaos creator here."
• Jackie [14:21]: "But the chip is so real. What I will also say about the chip is that it propels us towards greatness."
• Claudia [20:50]: "Jason Kelsey is having a tough time processing the Eagles win with Travis's loss after the super bowl blowout."
• Jackie [22:10]: "Congratulations to the Philadelphia Eagles, my former teammates and friends, on being Super Bowl Licks champions."
• Claudia [36:02]: "Pete Davidson strips down to his undies for Reformation after his tattoo removal."
• Jackie [61:06]: "I think I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt. So I would just ask him, like, why he wants to know."

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This comprehensive summary captures the essence of "The Toast" episode titled "The Philadelphia Chips," highlighting key discussions, insightful commentary, and memorable quotes that define Jackie and Claudia's dynamic storytelling.

Transcript

[A]

Good morning, millennials.

[B]

Welcome back to the toast and happy Tuesday. My girl is back. She's back to black. She's in all black, living in Florida. Hey, Jax, how you doing?

[A]

Hi, Turtleoo. Yes, I'm in all black because I'm wearing a whole new outfit. I feel brand new. One, because I'm wearing new clothes. But two, because I'm feeling so much better. I'm really over the hump of the flu. Like, tomorrow I feel like I'll feel 100. Today I'm like 95. But no complaints concern, considering where I came from. And then while I was sick, some clothing deliveries had arrived. I was finally able to try them on today, and I'm obsessed. This is the bodysuit T shirt I was telling everyone about. And it's everything and more like, no midriff, no problem.

[B]

Isn't it just one of those days where you're feeling extreme gratitude for your health? Like, little things you used to take for granted, just like breathing through your nose.

[A]

I know. I was thinking about that because that's always what you say when you're sick. You're like, I'll never miss.

[B]

No, we really take for granted, like, just feeling decent.

[A]

For me, what I will appreciate is just my ability to do things, like, to get things done, to stand up, to cook, to just, like, have a little bit of strength. Like, I will not take that for granted. And sometimes when I'm feeling, like, good, AKA normal, I'm just like, acknowledge the space. Because you know me, I'm always, like, bogged down by something, migraine, whatever it.

[B]

Is, acknowledge the space.

[A]

So when something's not ailing me, like, it's so pargy and we have to ats.

[B]

Speaking of cooking, just quick segue. I spent all day in the kitchen yesterday making muffins, but mostly making content for the Patreon. Jackie had this fab title for a new series we're going to start calling Barefoot Conturdi. As you guys know, I've actually never successfully cooked something in my life, like, to completion, even if it's edible, which most of the time it's not. It's never right. It's never right.

[A]

It's so crazy. And you'll follow a recipe and you'll give it your all, and, like, something goes so terribly wrong.

[B]

Yeah. So in sort of in my nesting journey. But also, I was just being like, really? Really? I've been craving a chocolate chip muffin for the last couple of days, and I bought all the ingredients and Jackie was like, you should vlog it And I knew that if I vlogged it, I would have to make the muffins. Right. So it was almost like an impetus for me to get the muffins correct. It was so funny. I cooked them for me and Ben. The vlog is up on Patreon. Now, I don't want to spoil how the muffins turned out, so you'll just have to tune in to find out. But all that to say I had one for breakfast this morning.

[A]

That bodes well.

[B]

Yeah, yeah. And I'm like, kind of loving this new show, the Barefoot.

[A]

Yeah, yeah.

[B]

It kind of sounds like Spanish. Like, I'm barefoot cone Turdy.

[A]

Right. With turdy. But then us real ones know, like, you're not the Barefoot Contessa. I'm the Barefoot.

[B]

It was honestly, like, I thought it was maybe gonna be like a one off vlog, but then Jackie came up with this fabulous series and it's giving quarterly installment.

[A]

It's totally giving series regular.

[B]

People are loving it. Like, they're saying I'm the most amazing chef. Like, I'm literally made for the Food Network. I think BSC should watch his back.

[A]

Do you think he's quaking a little bit? Quake.

[B]

So I made 12 muffins. 12. Now, I have to be honest, I gave one to our dog walker cuz I had so many. So let's say I had. Let's say I had 11.

[A]

Olive and Butters.

[B]

No, no, no, no. They're chocolate. Jackie. I had 11 muffins. Okay. As of this morning, there were three left. And Ben, we tried to do the math last night. It was like, hard because we were like picking at them. Ben ate about, in one day, seven muffins. And this is also a person who actually just started Mounjaro the week before.

[A]

So it's kind of imagine how many would have eaten.

[B]

It was kind of a test of the efficacy of Manjaro, in which it failed.

[A]

Why? You could have eaten all of them.

[B]

He basically did. I what? I don't get any. Like, I had like one and a half and then I had another one this morning. So we have two left.

[A]

So is he more so quaking that you're like coming for his culinary throne or that, like, you're bringing all this talent into the house and he's going to be eating more?

[B]

No, I don't think he really cares more about like even having competition in terms of in the kitchen. Because Ben is going to be a better cook than me till the day I could practice every day for the rest of my Life. I think it's more so about, like, having, like, another culinary creator.

[A]

Just having a lot of food. Oh, you mean the content, the.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[A]

That's kind of what I meant. It's all one.

[B]

Yeah. And I was just kind of thinking because, like, baking muffins is such, like, a comfort creator thing to do.

[A]

Right?

[B]

Like your favorite YouTubers just, like, make muffins. But there was absolutely nothing comforting about my video. Like, it was just. We were on edge. It was really chaotic. So I was kind of giving, like, some people are comfort creators. And I realized I'm a chaos creator here.

[A]

The anti comfort creator. You're like, yeah, influence.

[B]

Yep.

[A]

Chaos creator. I love that. And I feel like you like chaos creation. Like mukbangs.

[B]

I do, I do.

[A]

Are chaos creations.

[B]

Except let me tell you, baking. And it took a long time because I was being really thorough. My back will never recover. Like, I almost pulled up a bar stool to finish cooking. Like, my back was killing me. Not. Not for the faint of heart.

[A]

It's a flaw in the system that you really can't sit while you cook.

[B]

Now I understand, like in my Big Fat Greek Wedding, when she's always, like, sitting at a barstool by the kitchen sink peeling potatoes, especially potatoes, hovering over a kitchen garbage.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

It's back breaking work.

[A]

Yeah. That's one where you could kind of schedule a break, but not even. They should make some sort of contraption, like, because if you're over the stove, like, you cannot sit.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

They should make us something.

[B]

I was also waiting to post the vlog to see, like, people telling me, attorney, you did this wrong. You know, and for the most part, nobody said that. Although there is a conspiracy theory, because I was having a really hard time telling apart, like, which was the flour, which was the salt, which was the sugar. Because I put them all in these stupid, like, aesthetic containers and I didn't label them.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

So I do the flour. Like, the flour is so easy because it's like. But the sugar and the salt, I was like, I don't know. They're really, like, giving such similar energy. And then somebody made the amazing point that I might have actually, instead of sugar, used protein powder. A couple of people. That's like a running theory amongst the community.

[A]

They're protein muffins.

[B]

I know. Because they did taste, like, a little healthy. In which case that I made sugar free muffins.

[A]

But how did you use protein powder, like, in your house? They're in fancy esthetic containers.

[B]

You know, a couple. A couple of Months ago. Like, right. Not right after, but after I found out I was pregnant, before I could tell people, I was, like, feeling, like, doing projects around the house. Like, I was really feeling like I need to make my home. Yeah. And one of the things I did, and this was months ago, was me and Ben went to Bloomingdale's. We bought all new pots and pans, new knives. Like, we really wanted the kitchen to be partially. We cleaned out all the cabinets. And one of the things I did was buy those, you know, Oxo. Oxo containers. And I just put. I don't even remember what I put in there. And I didn't label it. So it's entirely possible I made, like, either salt muffins, protein powder muffins, or sugar muffins. I don't know.

[A]

Salt muffins. Love.

[B]

Yeah. Salt muffins.

[A]

Love. Yes. Salt muffins.

[B]

It's Tuesday. I meant to tell you. You know, we have deer toasters, too.

[A]

I know.

[B]

They're really good. We're kind of wearing, like, complimentary outfits. Not complimentary. What's the word? Like, I should be wearing your outfit and you should be wearing mine.

[A]

Totally. Yours is so me, and this is so you. But Claude, you can see. But these are barrel jeans.

[B]

Oh, my.

[A]

I got barrel jeans. You'll see on my Instagram stories. Check me out later. They're so sickening.

[B]

Barolina Farms.

[A]

I look so awesome.

[B]

Oh, my. You do look great.

[A]

No, you can't even. I don't even need comments because I know you can't really see me and you can't nobody look at the barrel nature of my outfit, but I'm a barrel chest of freedom fighter. Okay?

[B]

Oh, my God. I was actually thinking this morning about Jersey Shore as a concept because Ben weirdly came in and was like, G Unit. And I was like, what are you talking about? Then we just went down a rabbit hole, like, of that band that 50 Cent was a part of. But when I think of G Unit, I think of Unit and I think of that guy from Jersey Shore who, like, was Mike's friend and kept. And, like, Snooki didn't want him to come because he knew Snooki's big, bad secret. Oh. And I feel like, as a culture, we don't talk enough about, like, that conspiracy theory that might get started that him and Snooki slept together while she was with Johnny. Like, he was telling the truth.

[A]

Probably. But that's none of our business.

[B]

100%. 100%. But, like, she was like, we wrote for her, so America wrote for her so hard that, like, we didn't care about the validity of the statement.

[A]

And I don't even remember this time, but you telling it to me now. It's like, I don't care if they did or they didn't. It's not about, like, Mike being a liar. It's about Mike being a shit starter.

[B]

Yeah, no, he would, like, tortured her with it, like, over two years. Would, like, whisper it in her ear and, like, just, like, threatened to release the tapes. There weren't tapes. You know what I mean? And unit was there. Remember? That was like, Mike's friend who, like, really knew the truth. I was just thinking about that this morning. Those are the days.

[A]

Those were the days. But I have just one thing more to say about my barrel pants. Yeah, please bring it back. I actually don't think I look that much different to myself because I always judge, like, how different my outfits are based on Zach's reaction. Like, the one time I wore those jeans and a T shirt, like, he literally dropped to the floor in the kitchen. Like, yeah, he. He, like, literally was like, can I have a hug? Like, he was like, oh, God, he wanted a hug.

[B]

It's giving Steven.

[A]

I was being.

[B]

Sometimes you just walk into your house a different person, and you're no longer Jackie. You're Sarah.

[A]

I'm Stefania.

[B]

Yes, Stefania.

[A]

No, it's. I have this joke with my college friends.

[B]

Oh, wow.

[A]

Whenever I would, like, dress normal like that, like, so I'm wearing jeans and T shirt like that. Call me Jackie Cohen, like, just like a normal girl.

[B]

Oh. And you have to know, like, when Jackie was in college, she like, of course you still use fashion to express yourself, but you were really. You were really, like, into kawaii fashion. Bright colors, like, very out there.

[A]

Yeah, no, every day, big, huge, chunky platforms party. You guys can't even picture it.

[B]

You can't even picture the stuff. Jackie, you should do, like, a little collage on your Instagram story today of some of the crazy, wacky outfits that you used to wear in college. It was a form of self expression and you looked super cute. But so the joke was even funnier because you were such a crazy dresser.

[A]

Like, literally, I would never have worn just, like, jeans and a T shirt.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And if I did, like, I was being Jackie Cohen, so now that's funny.

[B]

I didn't know that you had, like, a little joke with your friends. Wow. Yeah.

[A]

When I posted my jeans in a T shirt the other day, I was like, this is so not a Me outfit. My friend Sam commented. She was like, it's so Jackie Cohen.

[B]

I love that.

[A]

Like, sometimes I just, like, they be, like, be normal. Just, like, be Jackie Cohen.

[B]

I'm like, it's so hard. It's so hard.

[A]

Anyways, my husband walked into the kitchen this morning. I was about to film him because I wanted to, like, get on his. On camera, his reaction, walk right past me. So we're gonna. I'm not. I'm not that changed. I'm still me.

[B]

Oh, okay. Stefania can, like, remain at bay.

[A]

I'm not Stefania.

[B]

Yeah. Oh, my. That's so funny. What was I gonna say? We have Dear Toasters. What are the stories like today?

[A]

They're good. I don't think there's anything like that you haven't heard of yet. But we're gonna discuss a lot of things. A lot of things need to be discussed by this.

[B]

And everyone's loving our super bowl recap. Like, they said. We love it so much. This is the best, most, like, amazing thing we've ever heard.

[A]

Classic.

[B]

Like, it was.

[A]

Yeah, that was fun.

[B]

It was good times yesterday.

[A]

Good times.

[B]

No, it's so fun to, like, really all be talking about the same thing.

[A]

Yeah. Now we're all gonna split off into our.

[B]

Into our different. Right.

[A]

But we were all together for a.

[B]

Time, for a moment in time.

[A]

And that's why it's, like, even sadder that the Chiefs stunk, because we all came together for you guys. Like, we were all rooting for your game. Not even. I know people root for Eagles.

[B]

People.

[A]

We were all rooting for the game. They couldn't even get us the game. But whatever, it's fine. I'm.

[B]

Wait. We were getting lots of Eagles hate yesterday, being like, you guys can't even. And I think. What did we say?

[A]

I think because we were making so much of the fact that the Chiefs played so badly that it almost sounded like we were saying the Eagles won because the Chiefs, like, so hard. They wanted us to acknowledge how fantastically the Eagles played and that.

[B]

And did we not. We said, like, it was. And I even said, like, I thought that they were only winning, like, against the Commanders because they were playing like a team of deaf, dumb, and blind. But it turns out, like, they're actually a skilled team. Like, I didn't understand where the hate was.

[A]

I guess, like, even in what you just said, like, there's a backhanded compliment. Turns out, like, no, I'm saying I was wrong. Right. And they just, like, one acknowledgment that the Eagles have been amazing all season, that they've slayed all season and the Chiefs actually keep winning. And then if you really want to go down, what they're saying, it's that the Chiefs, like, one. They've kind of eked out every win this season, like, by the hair of their chinny chin chin. And that this is where it gets crazy. The refs and I cannot speak to this. Like, I. I just got into football. Like, I am. The thing is, I'm not away from criticizing the refs.

[B]

I'm not going to say the entire Chief season was like a hoodwink scam. Like, that's rude. They, like, they literally were almost undefeated. So I'm not saying that, but I'm saying, like, good job to the Eagles. They played better and they won. They were the better team. I said that yesterday and I was like, I'm seeing. Oh, my God. Like, the girls look so dumb about the Eagles. Like, we were on your side and people be like, can't believe they were rooting. I wasn't even rooting for any team in particular. Yeah. I was like, are we watching the same episode of the Toast?

[A]

I know. I think just for them, it's like they were the better team, but it's like the other team was barely a team. So it's like we didn't say enough good things about the Eagles. I think that's how they felt.

[B]

I think, honestly, it's giving chip.

[A]

I think the Eagles have a chip. I think they would admit that it's giving chip.

[B]

Like, seriously, leave me out of your job.

[A]

Go to therapy as those with a chip. Like, I see your chip.

[B]

We see them at the meetings.

[A]

Yeah. Where like, we get chips for how long we've had a chip. Literally, I see your chip. And you know what? It is kind of annoying to hear about. Maybe we'll stop.

[B]

We've been really good about our chip. Do you agree?

[A]

I have. Yeah.

[B]

I feel like we actually haven't even talked about our chip in this new studio.

[A]

Yeah. Like, if you're a new listener, you don't even know what we are talking about.

[B]

And let me just tell you briefly, Jackie. We just have, like, a chip on our shoulder about, like, our whole career. Who doesn't, by the way?

[A]

No, there are people who couldn't possibly.

[B]

Yeah. No, we just feel like we work really hard. We get so much hate and so overlooked.

[A]

Like, we get so overlooked.

[B]

We are constantly being overlooked and we.

[A]

Have a chip about it. And it comes up sometimes.

[B]

Sometimes it also is A chip that comes in the shape of a Kelly. Of Kelly Clarkson. It's a Kelly Clarkson sized chip because she hasn't come on the toast.

[A]

Oh, yeah. Like, and if we were any other people who are like, top podcast so obsessed with Kelly Clarkson, they'd be banging down our door to have her on. Like, it's so weird.

[B]

It's so true. No chip. Okay? Chip.

[A]

The chip is so real. What I will also say about the chip is that it propels us towards greatness. Like, we are constantly fighting against the chip and that is what makes us great. And I feel the same about the Eagles. Like, I think we actually have more in common. We're more similar than we are different.

[B]

And I think some of the people I admire most in this world have, slash, had chips 1,000%. Nobody had a bigger chip on her shoulder than Joan Rivers. Like, nobody was more overlooked. Nobody was more kind of sidelined by the industry. You know who else I feel has a chip? And rightfully so, because she does not even get half the credit she deserves for her talent.

[A]

Who?

[B]

I feel like, you know what I'm gonna say. Come on.

[A]

For her talent.

[B]

Yeah. And she's actually been on this show somewhat recently. She's our queen. We're always saying how she's like, Kiki Palmer definitely has a chip on her shoulder and she. And she should, because the industry and she gets a lot of opportunities, but it's not enough for her level of talent.

[A]

Yep, agreed.

[B]

Like, remember when Tiffany Haddish had this huge moment like she was in a movie and then, like, it literally spiraled her entire career off of this one? Where's that moment for Kiki Palmer? It hasn't happened yet.

[A]

Yeah. Even though, like, at every turn, she's so worthy.

[B]

Correct. So her chip warranted.

[A]

When I think of people, I'm going to text you someone's name of, like, the anti chip. Like, someone.

[B]

No, girl, I know what you're going to say before you even say it.

[A]

Wait, do you?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And this is like. And it's not shade to this person. It's like, we'll never know what it's like in this world.

[B]

Yeah, but I wasn't thinking for.

[A]

You were thinking, okay, text me.

[B]

Because there are people who just like, blow up.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[B]

Whether it's like, online in acting and singing and just like, get, like, their career goes as it should.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

There's no roadblocks. There's no chips. They're just like, yeah, you should host the VMAs. Like, it's it's kind of a chippy industry.

[A]

Yeah, it's.

[B]

But I don't want to go down. No, I don't want to go down.

[A]

Yes. If you're new here. We have a chip, and it informs what we do for good and for bad.

[B]

But mostly, honestly, if you really want to get into the symbolism of the frames, they are representative. Yeah. Of the chips, Jackie. They are physically on our shoulders.

[A]

We should tape a potato chip.

[B]

Yeah. In the bake delay.

[A]

Everyone wants them to be filled. The frames. There you go.

[B]

One hot glue gun.

[A]

Like the banana.

[B]

I hate to cut this short. The pre fast five banner, because, you know, it's the highlight of my day.

[A]

Just cut me off. Yeah.

[B]

But we have a lot to do. We have deer toasters. We have the fast five, and I just wanted to make you aware that we're approaching 20 minutes, so.

[A]

Okay. So I guess. I mean, it's time and you've said it, sister.

[B]

You know, I. I don't want to start drama. Obviously, I.

[A]

You don't.

[B]

I just want. I just wanted you to know. No, I don't want to start drama. I'm not looking for. I'm not in, like, a drama era of my life.

[A]

Yeah, that's good.

[B]

I'm, like, looking for peace.

[A]

I love that. Well, we can get into the fast five stories that you need to know, dear reader.

[B]

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[A]

Yeah.

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Right?

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Yeah. Thank you, Ag Turt.

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[A]

Our first story, Jason Kelsey is having a tough time processing the Eagles win with Travis's loss after the super bowl blowout. So Jason Kelsey has finally put out a statement. Not finally. I mean, yeah, I wasn't waiting. I wasn't waiting. But, yeah, I do wonder how he feels about the win.

[B]

And I guess if you were really paying attention, there was, like, a little bit of drama.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Because their podcast page had put out, like a Congrats Eagles thing.

[A]

Yeah. Put out a Congrats Eagles graphic. And then they took it down. I think people thought they took it down because it was, like, disrespectful to Travis. But then Jason clarified that he asked him to take it down because it was like. And I guess, yeah, it was a lot of pictures of him and different Eagles players. And then there was giving.

[B]

Hey, look at me.

[A]

There was a quote about how, like, so many of the Eagles players feels like family to Jason. And then like, congrats. Eagleston was very, like, Jason centric. And he was like, I didn't win the Super Bowl. Like, it's a weird thing to post.

[B]

I just want to say I think it's weird too. Not even because of the reasons Jason stated. Because your co host lost.

[A]

The other half lost.

[B]

And it's not like Jason played. He didn't. So I think it's weird.

[A]

Yeah, they could have just sat it out. But I also understand why Jason wanted them to take it down. I don't think it had to do with congratulating the Eagles. I think it was also. It was just like, self promotional.

[B]

No, I think his reasons are valid. The reason I personally, as a human being, like, my experience thinking it was weird is because, like, literally, Travis is the co host and the star of the show, and he lost the Super Bowl. The other star, slash, co host, didn't even play.

[A]

But the Eagles are a big part of their.

[B]

No, I get it. I get it. And let me just say, Jason's like a bigger man than me, obviously, in a physical sense, but also because it's really nice that he's so happy for the Eagles, but like, I would be annoyed. Like the year I leave we finally win.

[A]

Like, oh well, that's the most annoying part. But this is what he said. He said Congratulations to the Philadelphia Eagles, my former teammates and friends, on being Super Bowl Licks champions. There were a lot of emotions last night and now that I've collected my thoughts, I'll attempt to share them in the longest tweet ever. The game was odd for me to watch. If I'm being completely honest, I knew it was going to be mixed emotions before, during and after. And I now know what my parents had to deal with two years ago. On the one hand, I wanted what is best for my brother and to see his success. And on the other hand, there are so many people, teammates and coaches in the Philadelphia Eagles organization that I care deeply about, many of whom I owe my success to throughout my career. I'm very proud for Jalen Hurts, Nick Santini and this entire team. They have persevered, greatly answered their critics, amazingly improved themselves, undoubtedly to be the best team this season, etc. Etc. As for my brother, there isn't a person I love or care about more. It has been tough to process these feelings, but of course I feel for him and I'm always rooting for him. But I know he does not need nor want my pity. He is a mass greatness few on this planet could ever dream of, as has his team, and they should feel pride in their accomplishments this season and in the past. I know right now they're still thinking of that last night and the shortcomings in the last game. But in that, in time, that will fade and the greatness they've exhibited as a group will remain as one of the most dominant eras of football ever.

[B]

So first of all, it was giving the vibes. Like, Travis is retiring now.

[A]

Well, the field playing was giving the vibes that the lack of talent.

[B]

Yes. The ball on the floor. Can I say something like safe space.

[A]

Yes. Turdy.

[B]

Even though I'm so not in the mood for, like anybody to backlash me. But whatever. She wanted.

[A]

Peace, right?

[B]

But I have to speak my truth. And that's kind of the line that I'm constantly walking. Speaking your truth and walking in your own life.

[A]

Peace.

[B]

So during the week leading up to the super bowl, when there were all those press conferences and we were making fun of all the questions that he was being asked, like, a lot of the questions that were like normal questions were about his family. What are they gonna wear? What is your mom gonna Do. Is she gonna wear, like, the Eagle split jersey and Travis, like, you guys? Like, no. I'm the only one playing. Like, I am my team. My family's rooting for me. And I thought the questions were, like, really extreme and weird, and I was, like, kind of feeling justice for Travis. But now. And I understand, like, Kylie Kelce is, like, so loyal to Philadelphia. Like, she'll never wear another color ever. Like, I get it. That's your fucking family out on the field. Like, maybe I can't relate because I don't feel that way about any particular sports team, but, like, we're. I just want to say we're bordering on disrespectful. Like, you can have respect for your team, Jason, and respect from your hometown, but, like, your family is, like, out here trying to accomplish something great. And the fact that, like, it's even a question, like, people are doubting who they're rooting for. Like, I don't know. I just. I. I know this is going to sound really crazy. I feel like they could have been a little bit more supportive.

[A]

Maybe that's what he was feeling.

[B]

And Donna, by the way, wore all red. And the question when he. When. When he was asked if his mom's gonna wear the same split jersey, Eagles, Chiefs, he was like, why?

[A]

Like, that's crazy. For Donna, she didn't.

[B]

But I just feel like there was, like, a lot of doubt in people's minds, especially for, like, Jason and Kylie and just, like, the family in general. Like, what are they gonna do? They love the Eagles. It's like, they love the Eagles when Jason was playing there, but he's not.

[A]

I think it's really hard for us to understand.

[B]

I think so, too.

[A]

Like, I think we can't put ourselves in those shoes. I think for Jason, it's like, yes, his brother's on one team rooting for him, but on this other side are people that. Not. They're not his brothers, but, like, very, very close. Like, there is joy in seeing them win. Of course, I think if he could have chosen, he wouldn't say. I don't think he would have answered this question of who. Maybe he did, but it was, of course, be Travis.

[B]

You think I'm not getting that vibe.

[A]

Yes, I think. Did anybody ask Jason who's he rooting for?

[B]

I think if they did, we wouldn't have gotten a straight answer.

[A]

Yeah, but I think, like, the. The correct answer is Travis. However, like, it's a very. You know, the Eagles are right behind because, like, the coaches. Those are people who he wants to see family and, like, the amount of work that goes in to being on the team. This was the only team he ever played for. Like, this is his. It's different than people who, like, bounce around. That part of, like, the brotherhood. We could never understand.

[B]

No, I just. I'm trying to put myself in Travis's spot and, like, I'm mad.

[A]

Yeah. Like, blame it on your family.

[B]

Yeah. I didn't get enough support.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah.

[B]

And I, like, I understand that we'll never understand. And I do. I get what he's saying, but I just feel like the whole time while we. Before we knew who won, like, there's just been this, like, underlying weirdness about, like, who they're going to root for when at the end of the day, like, yeah, we could talk about it, but you're obviously rooting for your family. I didn't feel like they led with that enough. This is a hot take for the day.

[A]

I didn't see. I didn't see that so much, so I can't say. But if that's what was going on, like, yes, of course we're rooting for Travis. Like, yeah, we'll find joy and if the Eagles win because it'll be good for our friends. But of course, we're rooting for uncle Travy. And I can't believe I haven't seen this yet. And it's.

[B]

I'm so glad.

[A]

I'm so glad my Travy made it to the big game. One step closer to Kelsey being my last name.

[B]

Wait, I think I should record Toast Theme song.

[A]

Theme song today. Because that was pretty parge.

[B]

Dial up Curtis the producer. Get him. Get him on the drum.

[A]

Cause if you play like you in Worthy, you can call me Mrs. Taylor Purdy.

[B]

The only thing is that the theme song, it's actually a little out of my range. It was pretty high key, high pitch. Excuse me.

[A]

So Japan for a man who.

[B]

During the Super Bowl, I was actually just, like, humming that song, like, you know, and Ben was like, is that a real song? And I was like, yeah.

[A]

And you played.

[B]

You don't know. Of course.

[A]

And you did you.

[B]

Yeah, for him. I played a prank. No, I didn't even play for him. I was just like. Because I think he was really believing me because I kept coming up with new lyrics.

[A]

Right, right.

[B]

And I stopped at the Purdy one because that would. That he would know it was a joke. I was like, I'm so glad my Travis made it to the big game. He was like, is that A real song. I'm like, what do you mean? Yeah. One step closer to Kelsey being my last name. He was like, no way. And then I kept coming up. If you play like, you ain't worthy. He was like, wow. And so I let it sit for a couple of minutes, and then I told him it was a joke.

[A]

You should have kept going because I.

[B]

Don'T want him walking out into the world like an idiot, you know?

[A]

But you should.

[B]

I could have my fun, but I can't take it.

[A]

Just, like, teased the party line and, like, see saw his reaction. And you, like, if you're gonna tell him eventually, maybe he would figure it.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

But let him think for one second that it was real.

[B]

You can call me Mrs. Mrs. Cherty Purdy.

[A]

I literally need to record something today. My voice, like, get on the horn. I'm gonna get on the horn.

[B]

I recorded. I forgot to share on Friday after the shows.

[A]

It sounded.

[B]

I took Jackie's recording session because she was sick. So I laid down my vocals first, which our producer. Which our producer said was probably better. And I.

[A]

He.

[B]

I did the first take, and he was like, well, we've got it. We'll just do a couple of more for safety. But, like, you kind of crushed it. Turn. That's what he said. So.

[A]

And then we got. That's beautiful.

[B]

Pretty much.

[A]

Damn.

[B]

So we now have a version of just my vocals. We're gonna wait. Obviously we're gonna overlay Jackie's, but I'll hold that version very near and dear to my heart.

[A]

Are you ready for our next story? Speaking of pargy vocals.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Sabrina Carpenter is on the COVID of Vogue.

[B]

This is amazing. Like, this is. To be on the COVID of Vogue is actually such a crazy thing. You know, when you think of all the famous people in the world who haven't been on it, it's like a real special tier. It couldn't be happening at a better time for her. She just snatched up a couple of Grammys. She looked absolutely gorgeous. And I feel like Vogue is always trying to, like, do something, like, edgy and whatever, but they really stuck with her aesthetic. Very on brand, very Marilyn Monroe. Feathery, feminine. It was beautiful. I was shocked. I wasn't expecting this. I. I would have thought that Vogue thought they were, like, it was too soon for Sabrina. You know, they're never on the cutting edge. They're always a little late to the trends.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I was so happy for her. Like, Quinn.

[A]

Yeah. This is major. So the COVID and the COVID story have dropped. The pictures are beautiful. She's on the COVID of the March issue of Vogue. And yeah, the. The photos are very Marilyn Monroe inspired. She's talking about her career. She made mention of Skin. Just want to say.

[B]

What did she say?

[A]

She said that when.

[B]

Do you have a Google alert for Skin by Sabrina Carpenter?

[A]

No, but our. Our Gen Z intern gave me a little heads up.

[B]

That's really big promotion.

[A]

She said that she never planned to release it. Like, it was a song that she wrote to, like, get her feelings out as artists do. And then she did release it, but, like, when she was writing it, it was just meant for her to, like, heal.

[B]

I want to say something about the whole song, and I agree with you. Like, Skin is a good song. It's not. It didn't shake the world up, but it's a good song lyrically, melodically. But I do think the. And I don't. I'm not. I don't have any regrets about how everything shook out for both of the girls. Like, they're really both killing it. But I do wonder, like, how this whole saga would have shaken out if the song that Sabrina released in response to all the drama wasn't Skin. It was All Because I Liked A Boy, which is another song of hers that directly addresses the drama. But it's much more popular than Skin, and it was one of the couple of songs from that previous album that launched her into the short and sweet era that people really liked. It's a really good song and it's very directly addressing. I got death threats Death threats filling up semi trucks Tell me who I am Because I don't have a choice all because I like to BO and all of this for what? When everything went down, we'd already broken up. Like, so good, so direct. And, like, I think it might have. I'm not mad about how anything she got. She just won Grammys. Like, maybe she would have released that song and then gone nowhere. But I do wonder, like, I would love to see an alternate universe, like, what would have happened if she did that. And this one wasn't written yet, but.

[A]

Yeah, I wonder how long after till she got to that place of, like, writing that song and that's how she felt. Because she couldn't, like, not respond for that long. So I don't. I wonder, like, if she wrote them at the same time yet. Then maybe we could.

[B]

If she had it in the arsenal and just chose Skin.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Instead.

[A]

I wonder. I. I don't know. But I like Skin because it wasn't like, the chip. I feel like all because I like the boys more, like, coming, like, from it.

[B]

Serious.

[A]

No, like. Like a victim. Like, everybody eats me.

[B]

All because.

[A]

Whereas skin was, like, like, kind of tough. And I liked that response. Yeah.

[B]

I was getting like, oh, you're jealous of me. You should be.

[A]

You should be. I'm all. I'm like, man. Yeah. Like, I just. I thought it was just, like, a strong response as opposed to. Because I like to. Boy, everybody hates me.

[B]

That's actually a really good point. I didn't realize, but maybe the world would love you. By the way, like, the reason why you love skin is because, like, the message was very, like, not victimy and not, like, steamrolled. Just like, yeah, I stole your man. What are you gonna do about it? And I'm loving every minute like that. And. And now knowing from that other song, when everything went down, we'd already broken up, so she wasn't even with this guy, so she didn't even, like, feel the need to defend him, but she still wanted to lead with, like, yeah, jealous.

[A]

Yeah. So. But I just. I agree with you that maybe the world would have received it better if she came out with, like, yes, people love a victim. Love a victim. So, yeah, actually, I, like, I think that it probably would have played better but for me.

[B]

But everything worked out in the way that it was meant to.

[A]

For a while, Sabrina took, like, a big L strength. And that's the Brexit respect, the bream.

[B]

But until Espresso, like, Sabrina had been, like. She had taken, like, a big L on the situation. Yes, nonsense. But up until that, there was, like, a long period of time where Olivia then went on to, like, yeah, worldwide dust, doing, like, small shows. And she was able to really climb her way out of that, which makes her whole journey even more impressive. And I think that's why we love her so much. We love a phoenix who rises from the ashes, but. But for a brief period in time when we didn't know it was going to go that way, like, it was kind of sad.

[A]

Yeah, I agree. That's why it's so impressive.

[B]

And I'm sorry. Like, I will never stop talking about these two. Everyone's. It's annoying. It's. Bring up Olivia every time you talk about Sabrina. I'm sorry, I can't. Although I do want to say I think this, like, massive success has healed Sabrina. Because we always say, like, if that was me, I'm never forgiving. Sabrina doesn't bring it up. She doesn't talk about it. And they were seen, like, Hugging at the Grammys. I actually think, like, getting all this success and recognition made the whole situation, like, kind of worth it.

[A]

Yes. Worth it. I don't think she's over it. I don't. I think she'll, like, that's her Roman empire and it's not. It's been a few years.

[B]

Like, it's her chip.

[A]

Yeah. 100. And she'll hug her at the Grammys because, like, she doesn't want to. That would look bad. You know, people don't like that. But the north remembers.

[B]

It's so true.

[A]

Like, I'm still here.

[B]

I stay. I'm still at the restaurant, like, desk.

[A]

Collecting on her pinned up hair.

[B]

I would. Her hair is always pinned up.

[A]

Right. That's about.

[B]

I would. You know how they always say, like, you know, if you could be like, I would love to have been a fly on the wall in the Solange elevator. Right. I would love to have an off the record, like, truly open and honest conversation. I would never tell anybody what she said. Just like, for my own personal curiosity with Sabrina Carpenter about that whole saga.

[A]

Okay. But if you could have one open and honest conversation with any celebrity.

[B]

Oh. Oh, yeah. Oh, no. And that's not even like, top five. Actually, it might be top five.

[A]

Yeah, but who's number?

[B]

But I don't know. Do I only get to cover one subject or like their entire career? Taylor.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

I don't even know what I would want to ask Taylor. I would definitely want to ask her about, like, the Karlie Kloss of it all. I would definitely want to ask her. She actually has, like, a lot of mysterious corners of her life.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Because she's not like the type of.

[A]

Celebrity who shares, well, all the friendships too. Haley.

[B]

Yep.

[A]

Kaylee.

[B]

Haley. I want to know what happened with Haley. Haley. Also Zendaya, like, we all forget because Zendaya went on to do, like, massive things. But she was a member of that girl squad for a brief moment.

[A]

Yeah. Kelly. That. We were just saying.

[B]

Kelly Teller. Kelly Teller. Yes. Yes.

[A]

Are you ready for our next story?

[B]

What number? Oh, yeah, sorry.

[A]

Number three. Pete Davidson strips down to his undies for reformation after his tattoo removal.

[B]

So Pete Davis, in bigger news, turny Ashrae, like, finally understands why people find him attractive. Like, I, for the first, for the first time, I'm like, oh, that's a good looking man.

[A]

Yeah. But I feel like now he looks different than when people were finding him attractive. Of course he can't get any girls.

[B]

He looks like he's put on a Little bit of weight, too.

[A]

Yeah, he's in a good way. Hunky Pete Davidson has spent the last several years removing his nearly 200 tattoos. And now he's ready to show off his clean slate just in time for Valentine's Day. He stars in Reformation's latest campaign, showing off his buff bod in boxer briefs. So I guess Reformation has some menswear now. And he is the face I find.

[B]

Like, I think the fact that he did, like, a topless photo shoot to show us his progress and all the change that he's made, I think it's really smart. I don't know why I'm so shocked that it's Reformation. Not only did I not know they did menswear, but, like, I don't. I thought it would have been Calvin Klein, like, for something of Pete's caliber.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I didn't realize Reformation had money like that.

[A]

Honestly, I didn't either. But I guess everyone wears. And I mean, if you think about it, I feel like they operate.

[B]

It's been around forever.

[A]

They look like a small business, but every. They're, like, mass consumed. It's actually probably have, like, low overhead. Because they act small.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

No.

[B]

And, you know, all of their dresses are made from, like, you know, dirty diapers and shirt.

[A]

Taylor wearing the dress to the US Open. Was the budget for Pete Davis true?

[B]

I don't know. Like, if I was Pete, I just would have wanted a little more for my comeback photo shoot. Not that there's anything wrong with Reformation, but it's not like, designer. I think Calvin Klein would have been. And I think he's done Calvin Klein before, so.

[A]

Or skims.

[B]

Or skims.

[A]

You know, I was watching Kardashians and Kim was saying. Talking about her work ethic, how she works so much. She was actually, because she's in therapy now, and so she's, like, thinking about working lesson, questioning why she works so much. And she says, Courtney was right. Like, I didn't need to sort of figure out what was driving me. Yeah, like, what. Why I'm working so much. Like, what drives me, whatever. And she was like, but in the past, like, all I want to do is work. Anybody who tries to tell me to, like, work less, like, get out of my way. And she was like, I mean, that's what happened with. And they bleeped out the name of a cheat. It was Pete, I'm pretty sure, because she was like, that's what happened with Blank. He said, like, why don't you take the week off? Like, why do you Work so much, she said. And that was the beginning of the end.

[B]

Oh, she's so crazy for that. Honestly. Like, that's nuts. And like, she does do too much.

[A]

Like. Like it just. It only really makes sense. Repeat. Like, I don't think that's why she broke up with Kanye.

[B]

Did it also sound like one syllable? Like you could tell based how long the bleep was?

[A]

Yes, it did sound like it's. Yeah, yeah.

[B]

Or it was like a nobody. Like Dave. You know, someone. We don't know Dave. It's always, maybe it was Dave.

[A]

But anyways, I think Pete Davidson looks great. I think this is such a good message for young people. He was on one of the late shows at talking about the process to remove them. He's had over 200 tattoos. Like how he obviously regrets them. And I think people should, when they go to the tattoo salon, should have to watch that interview. Just think, you know, twice.

[B]

There's not. There's nothing wrong with tattoos, but it's a huge commitment.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I think a lot of people get them done on a whim. They regret them. He didn't choose. He didn't keep any. Not even Kim as my lawyer.

[A]

Not the kids names.

[B]

That was really weird, right?

[A]

That was really crazy. And I think most people have not. I actually, I don't know most. A lot of people have a lot of tattoos. No regrets. Love them all. They all deeply mean something. But it's a hard thing to regret. Like, there's. It's very hard to come back from. It's very expensive. It's very painful expensive. And so I. I think thinking twice or three times about it is just a good message. And if you still want to do it, still do it.

[B]

Exactly. Like the first time you have an inkling for a tattoo, make note of it. Don't run to the store. Just jot it down. And then if you keep thinking about it two, three, four times, then you know that you really want it. But if you never think about it again, thank God you didn't get it.

[A]

Yeah, yeah.

[B]

In the words of Kim Kardashian, would you put a bumper sticker on a belt link?

[A]

Is that her quote?

[B]

I don't know if she coined it, but she popularized it in that scene from, like, OG Keeping Up.

[A]

Got it.

[B]

Oh, no, I'm sorry. She said it on Letterman. I think he was asking them if they have tattoos. Do any of them have tattoos? They're not like a tattoo family, except maybe they get like those little ones on their fingers that, like, celebrities love yeah.

[A]

Yeah, for sure. She has, like, on her fingers.

[B]

I could so see who.

[A]

I was gonna say Chloe feels like she might have, but remember, she got.

[B]

Lamar's initials on her finger. I also feel like I could see her having, like, a cross on her ankle.

[A]

Yeah. Or on, like, a wrist. A little wrist action.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

But I could also see her having some from back in the day.

[B]

For sure. For sure.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

People forget, like, Chloe went to prison for a couple of hours. Like, she's. She's a real one.

[A]

Okay, are you ready for our next story?

[B]

Yeah. Do you think Chloe actually did go to prison that day or, like. Like, for the cameras? Because she. They said she got let out the same day because of overcrowding.

[A]

Yeah. I think that that's what happened. I don't think, like, you think she.

[B]

Was in the facility.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

That's really crazy.

[A]

Yeah. But I think the way it went down is what happened, because I don't think they would just, like, lie about how it works.

[B]

Yeah. Yeah.

[A]

And, like, back in the day, those episodes, like, that they were just following them around with cameras that, like, wasn't so produced.

[B]

Highly produced. That's true.

[A]

Our fourth story. Speaking of reality tv, coming to podcasting, Lisa Rinna and Harry Hamlin are starting a podcast called let's Not Talk about the Husband. It will be with Dear Media, and the first episode premieres on February 14, Valentine's Day.

[B]

Pargie, let me just say, you know, I'm, like, kind of like a Lisa Rinna hater. Even though I'm. I'm kind of reformed. I hated her character on the show, but I. I understand that, like, she was a necessary sort of evil, and I do feel like she has all this, like, momentum and fame and, like, public interest that got, like, kind of stifled from leaving the show because we never got another outlet for it. Right. And so I think there's actually. I think this is a fabulous idea, even though, like, I don't know if I'm the target demo for it. People also just love her husband. It's really so crazy. I forget what I was watching. Oh. When we were watching Desperate Housewives, I was explaining to Ben, like, how none of these people were really famous before the show. The show made them all famous, except Nicolette Sheridan was very much like Hollywood royalty. She was married to Harry Hamlin. And it just reminded me that, like, he's literally so Hollywood, and he's also, like, an older gentleman, so he's, like, a little old Hollywood, too, you know?

[A]

Yeah. Also, they've been together for 30 plus years. Like, that is something that gives you a level of expertise that and wisdom that you can share with the world. I also was thinking recently about podcasting at a glance as, as you do.

[B]

When you have a chip.

[A]

When you have a chip. No, because I'm always like watching clips on Instagram. I get like served podcasts I never heard of, like this or that. And like, I was like trying to think like so many people start a podcast. But like, what makes really a good podcast. And like, I think one thing that really makes. Can make someone great amongst other things. But it's like someone who says like hard truths, who said, who has like genuine hot takes. Who like.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Who's like yelling at people almost, you know.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Telling you things you might not want to hear. And like, I think Lisa Rinna, like, has that energy of just being unapologetic and just saying things that might not be popular but are interesting to listen to. Because, like the people with like the lukewarm, just like circling the drain, like, it's, it's hard to stand out that way.

[B]

But I know that's not why podcasts were created, right? They're like this sort of renegade medium, like outside of mainstream. So that's why so many of the most popular podcasts are people with like crazy hot takes. Like Joe Rogan or like, you know, Tucker Carlson's podcast is huge. Like when you're kind of like a fringe, that's what the medium was created for. So if you're like out here just being like, hot dogs aren't sandwiches. Like, that's not why people go to podcasts. Do you know what I mean?

[A]

Like, it's very much a medium for lightning rods. There's ways to have success in other ways, but that is a big vertical. And I think that she is that. And so I think that this could really work.

[B]

Same. Although I do wonder if it's going to be a guest based show because while I think that she could pull great guests, she knows a lot of people. Him too. That's where podcasting becomes weird when like a really talented person, a really interesting person is a host and then is forced to interview other people and more so listen than talk. Um, and I actually don't think Lisa Rinna would be a good interviewer. That's my only right, my only concern. But if it's just them two going back and forth, talking about like different relationship things, parenting, celebrity, working in the industry, like, that's interesting for sure.

[A]

Yeah. So this is what the statement says. After 30 plus years together, some more fabulous than others. We've seen a lot. And we're ready to dish on everything from marriage and family to friendships, business and fame. So it seems like they will be dishing. We're taught whatever we're talking about, you can be sure it will be unfiltered. So tune in, because we're owning it all.

[B]

They should also have their girls on. Their girls are wildly interesting and also are always making waves.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Especially that Amelia. She's, like, in some drama with the Gabriette of it all. Do you know?

[A]

No. That they're twins.

[B]

Well, so that's the thing. Gabrielle, Maddie Healy's fiance, who's, like, this very creative, like, different, you know, Amelia, a couple of years ago, like, started to shift her look from, like, what we knew, very normal looking, all American commercial vibes to very high fashion, slicked back, bleached eyebrows, gap tooth. And she started to create a gap. No, but Gabrielle has a gap. Like, that's the vibe. I'm saying, like unconventional beauty.

[A]

Oh, okay. Okay. But she didn't, like, make it.

[B]

No, she didn't drill a gap in her teeth. My bad. And a lot of people started to pick up on the similarities in there. In her. In the look she ended up created, creating with Gabriette and then a lot of, like, their mannerisms. So it's a kind of an ongoing Internet theory, is the Gabriette versus Amelia of it all. So, like, take it to the podcast, Emelia. Let's hear about it.

[A]

Take it to the podcast. It's always funny when you find someone's, like, inspo. You know?

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Like Kendall Jenner and J.C. marie.

[B]

No, it's kind of like the chicken and the egg. Who came first? Paige, Lorenz or the other girl.

[A]

Totally. Or Megan and the Marc. Ness.

[B]

Meg. No. And the. The bank. The. No, she's not a Martianess. What is she? Her husband is a. A Marquis.

[A]

A Marquis.

[B]

What's a marquee? But she, you know, the marshes or something. Yeah.

[A]

A bath.

[B]

Yeah. Of bath. The bank. Yeah. Who came first? The Martian S or Reagan? Who came first? Pager. Morgz. Who came first? J.C. or Kendall? Who came first? Gabriette or Amelia. That one's pretty well documented.

[A]

Right.

[B]

And it's Gabriel.

[A]

It's a question. I don't think.

[B]

Yeah. And I think for, like, the tennis girls, it was all, like, happening at the same time. So we were like, wait, who came first? But if you go back, I think it's Paige.

[A]

Someone knows.

[B]

Yeah. There. It's well documented.

[A]

Yeah. Just got fine.

[B]

And this is. It's like all of these is someone's Roman Empire. Like, you know, people are, like, obsessed with these, like, random, like, dual lives.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

So for me, like, I don't particularly care. It's more so, like, you know, this is not. This is not my Roman Empire. So I'm just. I'm just. I'm having fun. I'm along for the ride.

[A]

Yeah. So good luck to our dear media sisters and brothers.

[B]

Oh, yes.

[A]

Lisa and Harry.

[B]

I. I think that's really. I think it's fabulous. Honestly. I usually, like, roll my eyes a little bit when people, like, enter the podcasting space who do other things, but maybe it's because I liked the title a lot, but I actually think this is great.

[A]

Yeah. No, I think that they've got the stuff. I think they've got the stuff.

[B]

It's a very particular type of stuff. Just because you're, like, super famous, everybody loves you, doesn't mean you're gonna be a good podcaster. Who had more eyes on her than Meghan Markle.

[A]

Right.

[B]

Was not made for podcasting. It's such a weird niche thing. And even the most popular podcasters are, like, freaks, Randoms you've never heard of. Like.

[A]

Right. And they're not the biggest and even the popular celebrity ones, because there are. It's not the most popular celebrities, like, even the office ladies, like, they're random, most popular celebrities.

[B]

Kim had a podcast. Nobody moved.

[A]

Right.

[B]

A lot of the most famous people in America like star Podcasts. And seriously, the culture remains unchanged.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Makes you think.

[A]

Are you ready for our fifth and final story?

[B]

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[A]

Thank you, turd30.

[B]

What can I say?

[A]

Our fifth and final story is a little TV programming news because the Bachelorette has been paused for summer 2025. Yeah, ABC will be skipping this cycle of the Bachelorette. ABC is pausing its female ed spin off of the Bachelor, which will be a blow for fans of the long running dating show series. The show generally starts production shortly and the last three seasons have aired in July. The series, however, has not been canceled and will likely come back to Disney's own network in the future. It's unlikely to air this year, but insiders have not completely rolled out its return later this year. It's not entirely clear why this decision has been made, but it's not without precedent in the Bachelor universe. Last year, for example, bachelor in paradise didn't air because Golden Bachelorette happened instead. But I don't know. Skipping the Bachelorette seems bigger than skipping a Paradise.

[B]

It does, but also when you think about all the different brands amongst the Bachelor franchise, you have the main Bachelor, the Bachelorette, Bachelor in Paradise, and the Golden Bachelor.

[A]

Now Golden Bachelorette, Right.

[B]

Bachelor and Bachelorette. I do feel like the female led ones are probably the lowest rated because it's more fun to have all the girls fighting over a guy. Like girls bring the drama. Girls make it more interesting. 25 girls and one guy like that. I'd probably rather watch, get to know all these like funny, crazy, quirky girls than 25 guys and one girl like.

[A]

That'S trying be on TV.

[B]

Yeah, it's like get a job so I could see like the Golden Bachelorette or the Bachelorette being the first to go. I don't. I know they're trying to make it seem like this is all good. I don't think this is a good sign for a franchise that in my mind has been, you know, dying for years. Yeah, but to what end?

[A]

Yeah, it's still rated Bachelor.

[B]

No, but I think people really like Bachelor in Paradise. I think it's still decently rated compared to, like, other cable shows, but we compare it to like, what it once was. So it's like a huge flop or a failure. I think it loses money for the network, but they really need to just shake it up. It's like the same format, the same dates, the same thing, like, all the time. When dating shows. Are you hearing about Montoya, Claudia?

[A]

I keep seeing this everywhere. What is it? Okay, what show is it from?

[B]

It's actually. It's a Spanish show, so I don't know.

[A]

That's what I thought. But then I saw a bunch of, like, barstool people talking about it. So I'm like, is this barstool? You know, their reality?

[B]

Yeah, they have, like, reality shows. Oh, my God.

[A]

I was like, what is this?

[B]

It's okay. It's a. It's Temptation island, which is a US show, but it's Temptation Island, Spain.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

And so a couple of clips from the show. It's just like a reality show where they put a bunch of singles, you know, and actually I think they're couples and it's Temptation island because you, like, you. You watch your partner go into a house and watch them on a TV to see if they're going to cheat on you. Very Casa Amore vibes. And there's this couple, the guy's name is Montoya, and his girlfriend is, like, majorly stepping out. And he's forced to watch it. Like, literally watching her have sex and like, two separate. She had sex with two different people. And he's like, on this, you know, they sit on like a wooden log in the middle of the woods, forced to watch on a tv and he's having a breakdown. Like, he can't. It's very normal reaction, actually, for somebody you love. The clips went so viral and whatever, that's irrelevant. But what I'm saying is, like, when you think about the landscape of dating shows right now, like, Netflix Crushes it. They had, like, Too Hot to Handle Love Is Blind, Love Island. Everybody's sort of stepping their pussies up based off of a concept that the Bachelor created, and they never evolved. Like, it's the same three hour telecast with the same dates, the same concept, the same everything. The biggest thing they ever did was when they did Bachelor in Paradise. And even that compared to like, Love island, it's still. It's old. It's. It's boring.

[A]

Yeah. But I do think Bachelor in Paradise, like, it's a pretty good answer to Love Island. It's not good enough sometimes, but it's hard. You can't really have Bachelor in Paradise without the Bachelor and Bachelorette because, like, you fall in love with these cast members, you want them to have a second chance at love. But that is like having to watch 50 hours of television so that you'll be excited for Bachelor in Paradise. I don't.

[B]

They make it too hard. Their focus on the Bachelor is selling as many commercials as they can. So if you're going to commit to watching an episode, you have to watch three hours plus after the rose. Women tell all, like, they're really exploiting people's time. That's why I personally stopped watching it. I was like, how many hours I have to watch just to see who.

[A]

Will like, it's like fun anymore amidst season episode five for it to be two hours. Like, stop. You know, agree. You want a two hour premiere, a two hour finale, I'll let you have it. Sell your agreed Episode five, you know, a march.

[B]

Yeah. It's just. They really can't compete. Like Netflix. They like Love is Blind. First of all, no commercials. And it's so good. Like, even when it's bad.

[A]

I have a question. Shows like that are on Netflix, that are going straight to Netflix, why do they still do commercial breaks? Like, they fade to black. They fade to black, and then they come back and they play what we just saw.

[B]

I think it's like an. That's actually a good point. I just think it's like a helpful way of like making television. I don't know.

[A]

I think it's like. I think it's so weird. It's like it is. What is this? And. And especially when they repeat the last line of what we just saw. It's like, wait, I'm right here.

[B]

Ten seconds ago, I didn't move. That's actually really true.

[A]

That's when I was watching Kardashians. That's what I was like, this is major Hulu. Why are you putting in blocks for commercial breaks?

[B]

I'm still sitting in the exact same spot I was when I heard I didn't move.

[A]

And I remember what she said five seconds ago.

[B]

Right. They do do that. Maybe it's like just like this trend in editing this top that's taking a while to Shake.

[A]

No one told them, like, we can stop.

[B]

They don't have to do it. Yeah, they do do that. I don't know. That's a good point. So I feel like they can tell us all they want that this is not like a sign, a sign of the times. But I think it is.

[A]

Yeah, I think so, too.

[B]

They just don't want to scare people.

[A]

So those are the fast five stories. I hope you're scared.

[B]

I'm. Wait, why would I be scared?

[A]

Because you said they don't want to scare people, but people are scared.

[B]

Quaking.

[A]

I'm shaking in my boots.

[B]

It's Tuesday, which means it's Dear Toasters, our weekly advice segment where Jackie and I do our best to help the girlies in need. So if you've ever found yourself in a predicament and you've wanted Jackie and I's advice, which is totally understandable, we are geniuses. You can get it. Email us dear toasters gmail.com or just go to our website, the toast podcast dot com. Scroll down. There's a little submission box. Both methods are. They're going to the same place. You have just as good of a chance of getting on the show. And they're both anonymous, so don't worry. Are you ready? Actually, I'm going to give you a little bit of a choice today because I had four submissions that I really, really liked. But I'll do my favorite first. Ready? Dear Jackie and Claudia, I've got this amazing boyfriend. He's literally perfect, except for one tiny detail. He's blind. Now, here's the twist. Because he can't see, he'll sometimes ask me how much I weigh, and it sends my insecurity levels through the roof. Like, how am I supposed to respond to that? On one hand, I want to be honest because, well, honesty is the best policy. But on the other hand, I'm terrified of him judging me even though he can't see me. Do I lie and keep the peace or just tell him no and dodge the question altogether? It's also confusing when your boyfriend can't see you but somehow still manages to see right through you. Am I an awful person for even asking this? Love ya. Bye.

[A]

Oh, that's so tough. I feel like he might have legitimate reasons for asking. It's like he can't see you, so he just, like, wants to pick you up if.

[B]

And hurt his back or something, but.

[A]

It'S actually like he can feel you and he could pick you up. Like, he actually knows what he needs to know. But I don't know. Like, maybe he needs this as an aid just to, like, understand what his girl looks like. I feel like, anything else, like, yeah, you could shave a few pounds off.

[B]

No, here's the thing. Like, I want to help this blind man. Like, I think it's important to help him see. I just want to help him whatever he needs. Like, I'm watching the season where Carlos is blind on Desperate Housewives right now, and, like, the way the community really just gets. You know, they get him a job, and they're always helping him out. Like, it's beautiful. Like, it's being blind. I can't even imagine. It's. It seriously sounds like the hardest thing on the planet. So I want to help this man, but I just feel like he actually doesn't need to know that. Like, you can really, based on feel, touch. Like, you can know what your partner looks like. And, like, literally, why does it matter? I don't know. I. Carlos would never, like, because Gabby was saying, when Carlos is blind, it's also when they're poor and then they have kids. And Gabby, like, you know, she's not her glam self anymore. She puts on weight. She, like, is just kind of. She looks like a mom, you know, not. Not like that. That's bad. But, you know, she's not, like, a glamazon model anymore. And she says that Carlos, like, I'm embarrassed. Like, even though you can't see me, like, I don't love the way that I look anymore. I've put on weight. And. And, like, Carlos would never ask this question. You know what I mean? He loved Gabby so unconditionally. So I just. I just wanted. Not to make the blind man the villain here, but I think it's a weird question.

[A]

Well, I would just ask him, like, why he wants to know, because I'm holding space for, like, it's something that blind people need to know, like, in order to orient themselves. I don't know. I'm giving him, like, the benefit of the doubt. So I would just ask him, like, what purpose does it serve for you to know? Like, I will tell you, but I just would love to understand why that's information that you want.

[B]

I just think based on my limited knowledge of the blind community, which is limited, I feel like they really learn things by touch, not by numbers. Like, I just. I. I think he might have ulterior motives for asking the question.

[A]

Maybe. But remember, he's a perfect angel otherwise. So we're gonna give him the benefit of the doubt.

[B]

Yeah, we are. We are.

[A]

I was just.

[B]

And of course, if you do end up telling him, like, it's minus 15. Yeah, I was gonna say you have at least like a ten pound grace period.

[A]

Fifteen. Max. Okay.

[B]

Max.

[A]

Because you also, like, it's just like when you are on a plane, like, they do need to know for safety purposes. Like, you can. Can't really lie.

[B]

Yeah, I don't know. I don't think he needs to know for safety purposes, but.

[A]

Okay, I don't know. Like, I don't know because I'm just gonna. Yeah, I don't know because he's blind. So I don't want to give him, like, bad information.

[B]

Did you hear me? I'm blind.

[A]

I don't want to give.

[B]

What's it from? It's Will Ferrell.

[A]

No. Is it.

[B]

Is it Anchorman? Did you hear me say that all the time? I have no idea. That's so funny. Oh, my God. I forgot about that. What's it from? Row one. What is that? I've never seen that movie. Star Wars.

[A]

Not from Star Wars.

[B]

It's Will Ferrell. Maybe he's like, he's standing in the ocean saying it.

[A]

He.

[B]

It's Anchorman, too. Increment two. Yeah. He loses his vision and then he makes it everyone's problem. He's like, standing in the ocean. Did you hear me? Blind.

[A]

Like, I'm not really lying to her with, like, the P. John blind guy, you know?

[B]

I know, I know, I know. And this is my dear toaster's toxic trait where, like, I. Oh, I wanted. I. I want to see, like, the partner, especially the man in the relationship, like, is always being the villain or gay. So, yeah, like, I'm projecting here.

[A]

Yeah. Like, I just feel like he might need to know. It's like you wouldn't tell him something is 50ft away if it's 20ft away.

[B]

Right? Like, the person. Like, we're at a cliff. Like, important information.

[A]

Right? So, like, right, Give him the benefit of the doubt.

[B]

All right, next up, we've got a little. Little weird mother behavior. Hey, Jackson Turdy. A text from my boyfriend of one year's mom. She's type that really weird. So she has a boyfriend of one year, and a text popped up on his phone from his mom, and he was sleeping. So she opened it and began scrolling through the messages, which is really crazy. And she found texts looking for trouble. I find. I find texts from her to him talking very intimately about our sex life, things like me coming, how enjoyable it is for a man to see as a woman, climax, me being less experienced than him and so much more. I am so upset and I haven't said anything to him about it yet. I feel so uncomfortable. I fear the next time I see her. I'm not the. I'm not one who talks openly about sex or very freely, but maybe with friends, definitely not with my mom. The whole thing has really given me such a pit. So there's like a lot of layers here. Like, obviously it's the betrayal of, like, something intimate between you two, but also, like, we need to talk about, like, the mental illness that is like, talking about climaxing with your mother. Like, I know. And first of all, it's different when it's a son and his mom. But I think even, like, girls who tell their mom, like, things about sex is less weird, but they don't even go into this much detail. Like, this is really, like, serial killer ass behavior. I. I don't know what I would be like. I feel you. Like, what are you more angry about the betrayal or are we concerned? Like, I'm concerned, actually. That's bothering me more.

[A]

This is like, so weird. And these, like, this is. This relationship will be a part of your life for so long. I wonder what she does for work, though, because I could see a scenario, the mom, Like, I could see a scenario where she is either like a sex therapist, some sort of therapist, maybe even like a gynecolog, something. I do feel like the toaster would have included that a thousand percent mom, like, that being very involved in her son's sex life. And yeah, it's like, not ideal, but it's like, that's just how we are. And like, you don't have to break up with him over it. It's just like a crazy fact about your in laws, your macha tunim sister.

[B]

Okay, so it's literally the episode of Sex in the City where Carrie's dating that writer who prematurely ejaculates. I think he's played by Justin Thoreau. And he comes from, like, this really, like, big family of intellects. And the dad is a professor at Yale or no, Columbia. And the mom is this. I think she's like a sex therapist type of thing. So she knows about the son's premature ejaculation and she, like, wants to talk about it with Carrie. And Carrie's like, no, it's less weird because she is this, like, very like, you know. But I do think the toaster would have written in if there was even a remote pertinence to this woman's. Line of work. Like, let's just say she works in sales. Okay.

[A]

Okay. I don't know. Maybe she has, like, a side hustle of, like, women's health. I think if you can look at it from that angle where it's like, she's interested.

[B]

It's weird.

[A]

Vagina, just. And you're like, in a woo woo family. Listen, Claudia, if she loves him and she wants to make it work, like, some things you just have to accept.

[B]

Well, the. Also, the problem is, is, like, when you go snooping, how to get this stuff brought up? Like, how can you bring it up to him?

[A]

Yeah, because it's not like he's coming to you and being like, my mom says that you should try this.

[B]

Like, how would you know this?

[A]

It's illegally obtained information. It's not admissible.

[B]

That's tough. But also, I'm glad you snooped. Usually, like, snooping, you're gonna find information you don't want. And while, like, you didn't want to know this, this really isn't something that can go on forever. It's really weird. And honestly, this is something that would just, like, give me the ick to a person. Like, I don't care how PGM your boyfriend is. Like, you're talking about orgasming with your mom. Like, ew, you're ugly to me now. You know what I mean?

[A]

I do know what you mean, but I just. I want to help her.

[B]

I know.

[A]

I just want to.

[B]

How are we helping?

[A]

I want to help her think, like, it's not a big deal. Like, he's just from just an open family.

[B]

That's really sweet, but it is a big deal. So let's give her some actual advice. You have to bring it up to him and just say, I don't know if you can just admit to snooping.

[A]

No, but, like, you could say, like, the other night a text popped up in your phone. Like, how you. I don't know.

[B]

Yeah, you'll have to come up with a creative way to bring it up that doesn't make you look crazy because you have to protect your. Your own interests here. But he should absolutely know that you're just not comfortable. Like, you should don't, like, judge and shame him for talking about this with his mom. That's like, a problem for another time. But he does need to actively stop doing that, like, today.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So I would say, listen, I'm not comfortable with that. Like, talk to your friends. Like, literally talk to a therapist. Talk to anyone. Please don't talk to your Mother, really?

[A]

He should. You'd rather him talk to his friends about these?

[B]

No, no, not friends.

[A]

People that you have to, like, go out with.

[B]

And I. I want to know, like, why do you need to talk about your sex life with anyone other than the person you're having sex with? Like, why do you need to keep people abreast as to what's going on in your bedroom when you just have a girlfriend?

[A]

Like.

[B]

Yeah, it's not like you're, you know, seeing a bunch of people. What's going on?

[A]

I think there's more history here that you should find a way for him to open up to you.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I think there's more to this story. Maybe it has to do with him and the past. Relationships.

[B]

Yeah. Or trauma.

[A]

Yeah. I think there. Or what his mom likes to get into in her free time. I think there's more here. So find a way to dig in without it being about the snooping. Maybe just have it.

[B]

That's actually very good advice.

[A]

Maybe just sit down and have a state of the union about your relationship and then take it into your sex life.

[B]

Okay. Our third and final Deer toasters is a Dear Toasters collab with NBW Naggy Wife. Okay. Hey, swirlies. Love you guys. Listening to the toast makes my commute one of the best parts of my day, so thank you. Oh, that was so sweet. I wasn't expecting to get choked up into your toasters. I'm ready to settle a debate with my husband. We've been married for four years, and he has a really disgusting habit. I've convinced him to stop as far as I know, since it gave me a serious ick. Not to mention it was really unsanitary. My husband likes to pee in the bathroom sink. This same sink where we brush our teeth. At least I do. And where I wash my face. The toilet is no more than three or four steps away from the sink. We do not have his or her sinks. It's just one singular bathroom sink. And he insists that all men do it out of convenience. Quote, I told him there's no way that all men do this and that I was going to have to write into deer toasters to settle this once and for all. Is this normal? Have you witnessed your husbands do this?

[A]

Absolutely not. I've never seen this. I've never heard of this.

[B]

I. I have, but. But it's extenuating circumstances. Like, if me and Ben, back in our old apartment, when we had one bathroom, I mean, we both, like, really had to pee. Of course, I get to go first, Ben, like, maybe once or twice peed in the sink. He's gonna kill me for saying that.

[A]

That's not what this is.

[B]

No, no. To do it. To opt for the sink instead of the toilet. No, no. All men don't do that. It's a. It's an emergency thing. I. I think it's. It's not completely unheard of, I have to tell you. Like, that, like, men definitely do this, but I don't think they use the sink as a toilet, like, all the time.

[A]

I think it's very reasonable to ask and insist that he uses the toilet instead of the sink where you wash your face and brush your teeth. And if he can't agree to that, you're not even asking for anything other than for him to move over three inches. Then you put a lock on the door that only you have the key to, and he can go do that in a different sink in a public bathroom, not the kitchen.

[B]

Yeah. No. By the way, you're 100 right in asking him, but, like, I don't. I don't want to indulge him at all, but he isn't wrong. Like, I. I do think people do this because I think in the mind of, like, a really sort of like a small brain man, it's like, it's all going to the same place.

[A]

Yeah. I'm not worried about where it's going. I'm worried about what it's touching on its way. Of course, I wouldn't wash my face in the toilet bowl.

[B]

Facts, facts. Although, like, when I was, like, testing my urine a lot for, like, ovulation or, like, pregnancy tests, and you would, like, put it in a cup. What do you do with the pee?

[A]

Pour it back in the toilet. Yeah.

[B]

I guess that's, like, a much smarter way. I was pouring it down the sink.

[A]

Pour it back in the toilet.

[B]

Yeah. That's yucky.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah. When there's a toilet right there.

[B]

I also want to share something that I did. Like, I need to unburden myself.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

There were a couple of times where, like, I woke up first. And it has to be your first pee in the morning. Right. So where I woke up first thing in the morning and I didn't have a cup, usually I would, like, leave a red solo cup, and I would, like, rinse it and wash it and use it every day, which is, like, probably gross. But either, like, the cup got thrown out, or it wasn't there and I, like, was in. I was, like, literally about to pee, and I couldn't get up off the toilet. I needed something to pee in, so I used, you know, the really big hairspray I have. It's like the red one, big sexy hair.

[A]

And the big red.

[B]

The big black top lid. I use the lid as a cup. I just needed to. I needed to unburden myself. And by the way, I rinsed it and then put it back on my hairspray. I did. I did.

[A]

That's crazy, because who even has the lid on their hairspray to begin with? Like me? Oh, like, who doesn't lose it along the way?

[B]

Oh, what a problem I have caused.

[A]

To lose it too.

[B]

Yeah, no, I'm not. And I'm pretty sure it's the same bottle of hairspray I'm still actively using. So. Parchee.

[A]

Parchee, boom and stem.

[B]

I needed to unburden myself. So maybe that's why I'm a little bit more sympathetic and understanding to this man. But I just, I want to say, like, I back the toaster here. Like, he should not be doing this.

[A]

I back the toaster. And if this is something that men do just because they all do it. If everyone jumped off a bridge, we did it. Like, then all men should stop.

[B]

Right? Right. No, you're not wrong.

[A]

And we wonder why women have all these skin issues.

[B]

Literally, we're washing our faces with urine.

[A]

Meanwhile, the men get to be like, Adam, wash my face. And I feel great. And it's like.

[B]

It's because, like, everything in your life is clean.

[A]

You don't have to pee in the pores.

[B]

So true. You're not. Because you're not washing your face in the toilet.

[A]

Right.

[B]

That's your toaster. Thank you to everyone who wrote in. To the girl who had that crazy story about her man taking new photos of her and her friends and putting.

[A]

In the group chat Tuesday every day.

[B]

Sorry we haven't heard from you. I'm just wanna. No pressure. Like, if you don't never want to write in again, like, you don't have to. I'm sorry that you went through that. We would love to hear from you. Obviously. I just want to let you know, like, I think of you often and I'm wishing you well.

[A]

As am I. Now let's get the heart rate for her. Okay, we're sending. Okay, we're sending you love.

[B]

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[A]

Love you. Bye.