The Point Was Not Well Made: Thursday, September 11th, 2025

Summary

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The Toast – Thursday, September 11th, 2025

Hosts: Jackie & Claudia Oshry
Main Theme: A reflective and conversational episode balancing the somber anniversaries and shocking current events with signature banter, trending TV, celebrity news, and commentary on internet culture.

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1. Episode Overview

This episode of The Toast opens with Jackie and Claudia acknowledging the gravity of both the September 11th anniversary (24 years since 9/11) and the shocking recent assassination of Charlie Kirk, before shifting into lighter topics as the show continues. The hosts reflect on national trauma, internet discourse, and generational memory, then pivot with comedic takes on their own set design, pop culture obsessions, trending reality TV, and the week's biggest celebrity stories. The tone alternates from heartfelt to irreverent, true to the “swirly” Toast style.

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2. Key Discussion Points & Insights

I. National Mood: 9/11 Anniversary & Charlie Kirk Tragedy

Timestamps: 00:26–05:20

• Both hosts acknowledge the heaviness of September 11 and remember its impact on their generation.
• Jackie reacts to the assassination of Charlie Kirk, describing him as a "beloved conservative commentator" and lamenting the state of open debate in the country.

  "He was a very prominent and beloved conservative commentator... It just speaks the state of our country that you can't even have open debate." (Jackie, 00:39)

• Claudia comments on the atmosphere in New York:

  "Whenever people talk about 9/11, like that day, the first thing they remark on is the weather... every 9/11 since, it is the most insanely gorgeous day. Not a cloud in the sky." (Claudia, 02:31)

• They reflect on the generational shift—how for many young adults, 9/11 is becoming a historical event rather than a lived memory:

  "There are plenty of people alive who weren't alive for that... for us, it marked such—there was a before and there was an after." (Claudia, 03:05)

II. Lightening Up: Chair Banter & Set Design

Timestamps: 05:20–07:45

• Pivoting awkwardly from somber topics, Claudia discusses her unique way of sitting—with a bolster—and her struggles with “coccydinia” (tailbone pain), contrasted with Jackie's more relaxed style.
• Brief nostalgia about uncomfortable old chairs and appreciation for the current set:

  "No wonder I have coccydinia." (Claudia, 06:38) "Shout out to these chairs... appreciation, I know the frames get all the glory, but, like, the chairs deserve all of the—" (Jackie, 07:31)

III. Pop Culture & TV Recaps

Timestamps: 07:52–15:35

• Claudia rants about The Summer I Turned Pretty, criticizing the main character's transformation and show pacing:

  "I hate this show, and I'm not rooting for anyone… She looks like a clown. She looks like Miranda Sings." (Claudia, 08:45)

• Jackie and Claudia discuss TV tropes, especially the “choosing yourself” narrative:

  "I just want to say, I hate when people choose themselves. Like, you can do both, actually." (Claudia, 09:07)

• They touch on new seasons of Love Is Blind and Perfect Match, and share some light spoilers about the show's contestants.
• Claudia boasts about getting a water machine and the rituals of bread day in their household.

IV. Celebrity News & The Fast 5 Stories

Timestamps: 21:54–63:01

• Story 1: Love Is Dead – Shaun White & Nina Dobrev’s Split (22:11–26:08)

  • Both express genuine surprise and disappointment, analyzing if it’s really over and debating who "gets" Miles Teller in the breakup.

  • "This could be a breakup that maybe pushes them finally down the aisle." (Claudia, 24:09)
    "If you have so much respect, what if you just can hope for in a relationship is loving... Respect." (Jackie, 24:36)

• Tangents on Ben's Sports Idols & Fandom (26:06–29:45)

  • Playful (and slightly chaotic) banter dissecting whose icons (Stanley Tucci, Jack Black, various athletes) rank in Jackie and Ben’s family.

• Story 2: Kylie Kelsey & Taylor Swift/Travis Kelsey Engagement (29:16–41:41)

  • Kylie Kelsey’s deliberate choice not to discuss the engagement publicly prompts deep Toast analysis on public/private boundaries.
  • Jackie critiques Kylie’s analogy:

    "That point was not well made." (Jackie, 34:00)

  • Multiple playbacks and reactions reinforce the feeling that despite good intentions, Kylie’s delivery read awkward and “not perfectly done.”

  • "If I'm Taylor and I'm hearing this, I'm not feeling warm and fuzzy." (Claudia, 35:56)
    "This is how it is. She's like, 'deal with it, everyone.'" (Claudia, 37:12)

  • They debate family dynamics, public roles, and whether it all signals "bad blood" or just personality differences.

• Story 3: Prince Harry & King Charles’ London Reunion (41:42–45:45)

  • Jackie recaps their brief meeting and its context within ongoing royal family strains, noting Harry did not see William. Claudia theorizes about their motivations and Meghan/Harry’s “seasonal” approaches to publicity.

  • "Everything he does is so crazy and everything he doesn't do is so crazy." (Jackie, 44:32)

• Story 4: Victoria Beckham’s Netflix Documentary (52:40–56:20)

  • Both hosts express excitement over Victoria Beckham’s upcoming series, hoping for celebrity cameos and some subtle family drama reveals.

  • "She does have an incredibly intense business that I don't think a lot of people even think of when they think of the whole Beckham ecosystem. She's literally at the helm of like, a couture brand." (Claudia, 55:26)

• Story 5: Brooks Nader & Carlos Alcaraz Dating (57:07–63:01)

  • Speculation over recent tennis-pro romance, relationship seriousness, and Brooks’ “crazy” dynamics—including a wild ex-boyfriend cheating discovery detailed on her reality show.

  • "She said the rumors are true. Dating is such a loose term. But I do know he's the man of the hour." (Jackie, 58:50)
    "Brooks, I just feel like she's on this, like, upward trajectory. This is just one notch in her bedpost." (Claudia, 62:34)

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3. Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• "How did we get here? How do we get out?" (Claudia, 05:12)
• On Kylie Kelsey's statement: "That point was not well made." (Jackie, 34:00)
• "If I'm Taylor and I'm hearing this, I'm not feeling warm and fuzzy…" (Claudia, 35:56)
• "It's giving bad blood. Like, I'm telling you, she seems mad." (Claudia on Kendrick’s tone, 36:57)
• On Brooks Nader’s ex: "You just see the tip at the top, but there's all that there. I just feel like we're just seeing the tip at the top and it’s not a lasting thing." (Jackie, 58:48)

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4. Timestamps for Major Segments

| Topic | Timestamp | |-------------------------------------------------------------|---------------| | 9/11 Reflections & Charlie Kirk news | 00:26–05:20 | | Chair banter / Set Design | 05:20–07:45 | | TV Recaps / The Summer I Turned Pretty | 07:52–11:34 | | Reality TV: Love Is Blind / Perfect Match | 11:36–13:41 | | Claudia's “grown girl” water cooler, bread day | 13:01–14:29 | | Fast 5 News Intro & Sponsors | 21:54–22:10 | | Story 1: Nina Dobrev & Shaun White split | 22:11–26:08 | | Ben's Sports Icons / Random Anecdotes | 26:08–29:45 | | Story 2: Kylie Kelsey & Taylor/Travis Engagement Drama | 29:16–41:41 | | Story 3: Prince Harry & Charles Reunion | 41:42–45:45 | | Story 4: Victoria Beckham Netflix Docu | 52:40–56:20 | | Story 5: Brooks Nader & Carlos Alcaraz, Nader family show | 57:07–63:01 |

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5. Host Tone, Language & Style

• Signature "swirly" vibe: Irreverent, witty, quick-moving between heartfelt and humorous.
• Unfiltered opinions and relatable analogies—often circling around internet discourse, millennial anxieties, and family/fan culture.
• Frequent tangents, inside jokes, and playful self-roasting.
• Willingness to dissect public/private lines, especially in celebrity and influencer culture.

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Summary for New Listeners

In this episode, Jackie & Claudia deliver their mix of social commentary, pop culture debates, and personal banter. The show opens on a somber note, with raw and honest reflections on the 9/11 anniversary and the real-time shock of Charlie Kirk's assassination. From there, the duo oscillate between cultural memory and everyday absurdities—from office chairs to water machines to “loaf updates.”

Their signature Fast 5 segment tackles breakups (Nina Dobrev & Shaun White), internet drama around Kylie Kelsey’s public handling of Taylor Swift and Travis Kelsey’s engagement, royal family tea (Harry & King Charles reunite), anticipation for Victoria Beckham’s docu-series, and the sports/romance gossip about Brooks Nader and tennis star Carlos Alcaraz.

Throughout, they challenge narratives, call out awkward celebrity moments, and anchor it all in their relatable, pargy tone: “You can’t stop the beat, right?” This episode is both a snapshot of a heavy news cycle and a lesson in bouncing back with humor, hot takes, and unapologetic girl chat.

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To listen for yourself, catch key moments at:

• 00:39: Jackie’s remarks on Charlie Kirk
• 02:31: Claudia’s New York 9/11 weather reflection
• 08:45: Claudia’s scathing Summer I Turned Pretty review
• 24:00: Nina Dobrev & Shaun White analysis
• 34:00: Jackie’s critique of Kylie Kelsey’s analogy
• 41:46: Prince Harry & Charles reunion
• 52:40: Victoria Beckham documentary excitement
• 58:50: Brooks Nader’s tennis romance scoop

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Transcript

[Jackie]

Good morning, girlies. It's the Toast. It's Jackson Claude, and we're your host.

[Claude]

It's your favorite show.

[Jackie]

The best five things you need to know.

[Claude]

We'll start your day off.

[Jackie]

Swirly.

[Claude]

It's the Toast.

[Jackie]

They sound amazing.

[Claude]

Welcome back to the Toast and happy Thursday. Hope everybody's having a party day. I don't know how par g of a day one could have. It is 9 11. And I'm sorry, there's just, like, no good segue into that. Yeah. So I would sign 11.

[Jackie]

Yeah. No, it's a somber day for sure. 24th anniversary of 9 11. Yesterday was such a terrible day. Charlie Kirk was assassinated. It's just been, like, so awful and so heartbreaking and for, like, I don't know if. I don't know if everybody, like, knows who he was, but, like, he was a very prominent and, like, beloved conservative commentator. And it just speaks, like, the state of our country that you can't even have open debate. Because that was really his M.O. was just like, debate. Like, hey, right.

[Claude]

He would go to college campuses. Yeah. He basically held Q&As.

[Jackie]

Like, literally just talking, like, very, like, moderately calmly and like, just a discussion of ideas. And so to watch him, like, get.

[Claude]

Just be shot every broad daylight.

[Jackie]

Saw that video. Like, I think he probably died, like, instantly. And now there's a manhunt underway for the killer. Like, it is just, like, so terror, so tragic. He's a father. He has two small children. He has a wife. Like, it's just a horrible story.

[Claude]

It's such a. It's like the first thing I've experienced like, this in my lifetime. I think, like, it's so crazy. I feel like everyone's talking about it. And what's been so crazy is, like, obviously it's like, the wildest thing, right? Just being shot and shot in broad daylight like that. And like, it's. It's such a televised. Not televised, but, like, filmed event. Like, everyone has a video of it. Like, it's so crazy. But seeing, like, then the discourse unfold online, like, it really is a reminder how, like, the Internet is the most horrible place on the planet. Like, the fact that, like, you can't really even just discuss like, this, like, how sad the event is without being like, well, what about. Well, why don't you shut up? Like, okay, just chill. Like, something awful just happened.

[Jackie]

Yeah.

[Claude]

It was just. And then today I woke up and I was like, oh, my God, it's 9 11. And like, something about 911. Like, if in the City. Like, whenever people talk about 9 11, like that day, the first thing they remark on is the weather.

[Jackie]

Yeah.

[Claude]

They were like, it was the perfect day. And I'm telling you, every 911 since, Jackie, it is the most insanely gorgeous day outside. Not a cloud in the sky.

[Jackie]

It's so eerie.

[Claude]

I feel like it's exactly what the weather was like on that day. So there's just like a weird vibe in the city today. Like, when you walk around, everyone's like, you know, everyone's thinking it and it always like. I feel like we say this every year, but it's such a reminder that there are like plenty of people alive who weren't alive for that. And like, for us, it marked such. I feel like a lot of people, like, it changed their whole lives. Right. Like, there was a before and there was an after.

[Jackie]

Yeah.

[Claude]

And so there are just people, like, with jobs walking around who like, don't even know what we're talking about. And it's so crazy.

[Jackie]

Yeah. Well, they know what we're talking about, but like, to have like, lived it.

[Claude]

Oh, I'm sorry. They know what we're talking about. That's not what I meant. They. They weren't. It's just like an event in history.

[Jackie]

In history. As opposed to like something that you lived through that just like really changed the world.

[Claude]

Like Hiroshima. You know, like, it was crazy back then, but now it's something like in the textbook.

[Jackie]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Claude]

And so the fact that there are people on earth like, who lived it and people who didn't, it's just so weird.

[Jackie]

Yeah. So thinking today of everyone who lost their lives, everyone who gave their lives.

[Claude]

Yeah. Everyone's first responders. You know, actually when I went to the US Open, I was chit chatting with my driver and he was like, oh, I'm a former FDNY firefighter. And you know, he was like a certain age. And I'm like, oh, were you? I was like the first thing I thought, I'm like, were you? You know, at ground zero? And he was like, yeah. I'm like, does everyone ask you that? He's like, literally everyone. He's like, we were part of the cleanup crew. So they weren't there on the day of. They like went down because he was like, South Queens. But it's just like in the heartbeat of the city. Like people who either live here now or were there at the time. It's just like this sort of ever present thing. And once a year, like, everybody takes the time to really remember it and tell Stories of the day. Like, of course, like, the best of us running towards danger. Like, really just, like, there's so many stories. Right. Like, you know, because it's thousands of people, but it's just. It's always a weird day. Like, especially when I. I don't know why I feel like. So I'm always talking about the weather when it comes to 9 11, because it's, like, it was, like, the perfect backdrop for this tragedy. Right. And today, it's just, like, it's the same exact weather.

[Jackie]

Yeah. That's spooky. So, yeah, it's just a. An off day. Not super pargy, I would say. But we are here to bring charge as best as we can, and we'll get there, and the story's actually good, and, like, we'll. We'll swirl around, but, like, we'd be remiss to not just talk about, like, the tone in the air, the feeling in the country, and just, like, the tragic events of the last 24 hours and 24 years ago.

[Claude]

No, and seriously, like, I'm not even saying this as a joke. How did we get here? How do we get out?

[Jackie]

Yeah.

[Claude]

Now I don't know how else to transition, so I'm just gonna talk about something, like, a little silly. Okay.

[Jackie]

Okay.

[Claude]

So we sit in these chairs, right? And I don't know if you know about me. I always put, like, a bolster behind.

[Jackie]

This pillow so I see it sometimes. Yeah.

[Claude]

So I'm, like, pushed forward because my feet don't touch the ground. And you always sit in the chair as, like, God intended.

[Jackie]

Oh, well, thank you. My feet don't touch the ground either.

[Claude]

No, I know. And I always think it's, like, so weird that you choose not to, like, follow me and do, like, the bolster thing.

[Jackie]

No, you look like you're always trying to, like, leave the show, like.

[Claude]

Well, because you look like. Okay, yes, yes. Because of my coccydinia, I have to.

[Jackie]

Patreon, and I think Claudia ended the podcast standing up.

[Claude]

Okay. Obviously you don't have, like, sympathy or understanding of what living with coccydinia is like, but, you know, it's okay as we're used to it.

[Jackie]

No, I. I have sympathy. I have my own aches and pains. And so I really. I'm just looking out for number one here, you know?

[Claude]

So all that to say is I've scooted back because I always look fatter than you, even though I am. But, like, I don't need to look at every day because I'm always more close to the camera. Now I'm backed up, My legs are dangling off. Like. This is such a weird way to say it. I can't believe you sit like this every day.

[Jackie]

It's never bothered me. And I was actually just thinking about our pargie set design and how we really crushed that and how I love these chairs and how I can't believe we used to sit in the chairs that we sat in.

[Claude]

Oh, my God. No wonder I have coccidentia.

[Jackie]

Might as well have been sitting in, like, chairs that you would sit in at a desk at school. Like, just like a chair. No.

[Claude]

And I actually. Like, what compensation. I definitely deserve workers comp. Because my coccydinia is 100 related to being forced to sit in that crazy boucle chair that was so hard and so thin, like, there was no cushion. It was. I just heard workers comp.

[Jackie]

No, it's like, it's a. It's a nice looking chair. And like, when you. When it's in, like, your sitting room and you're just there to, like, sit, but to plop.

[Claude]

It's what the kids call an accent chair.

[Jackie]

Pop down for an hour and a half every day and, like, you know, you're supposed to be comfortable, which will breed great discourse. I can't believe we did it in those chairs for so long. And I'm so grateful to these chairs. I think they're fabulous.

[Claude]

And if our show back then had, like, a negative tenor to it. That's why.

[Jackie]

But it didn't even. Because we're such professionals.

[Claude]

Because you can't stop the beat. Right?

[Jackie]

Exactly. So shout out to these chairs. I just wanted to take a moment of appreciation. I know, like, the frames get all the glory, but, like, the chairs deserve all of the.

[Claude]

The. The frames get all the grit, honestly.

[Jackie]

None of the glory. They're really the face of the show. So they get both. They get, like, all the praise when it's good and all the criticism them when it's bad.

[Claude]

So true. I watched the final episode of the Summer I Turned Pretty, which was actually not the final episode of the Summer I Turned Pretty. I don't know why I just assumed that the 72 minute long 10th episode was gonna be. Or was that the finale? No.

[Jackie]

Why is it so confusing?

[Claude]

Because, like, why wouldn't it be? But it didn't end.

[Jackie]

Like, was it good?

[Claude]

Are. No.

[Jackie]

Jerry and Belly together.

[Claude]

Oh, there's no. There's another one. Okay. There's another one. I just want to say I'm so sick of this show. Belly's like, Living in Paris. And she thinks that, like, you know, she's so classic. Like, I'm just gonna, like, I blew out my life, so I'm gonna go live in Paris and, like, be Emily. Like, she's literally being Emily, and she's still, like, the same dumb. Except she's wearing red lipstick, and she thinks that, like, the red lipstick is, like. And I get what they're doing. Like, the red lipstick is supposed to mark, like, a visual change in belly. She looks like a clown. She looks like. Miranda sings. Like, she's getting her haircut, and she's like, she's chopping her hair off because she's, like, having an existential crisis. So she's telling the lady in the mirror, like, yeah. She's like, are you sure you want to. Yeah, I'm sure. She's wearing this, like, stupid red lipstick. I hate this show, and I'm not rooting for anyone.

[Jackie]

So when does she get back together with Conrad next? I don't know.

[Claude]

I don't know. I'm like, they're just taking too long.

[Jackie]

Them changing the ending for the show where it's like, she chooses herself.

[Claude]

Okay. I just want to say, I hate when people choose themselves. Like, you can do both, actually. You could, like, have a romantic partner and also, like, put yourself first in choosing love.

[Jackie]

You are choosing yourself because.

[Claude]

Well, that's another way of looking at it. But you can also, like, do the hard work. Work on yourself, grow. Become the person you want to be whilst in a relationship. I don't like that, like, TV and movies are always teaching us that those two are mutually exclusive.

[Jackie]

They're literally not so crazy that you could have, like, two potential suitors that you're toggling between for 10 years because they're both so fabulous and both so in love with you. And, like, you're like, no, I think I'm gonna, like, go with neither of them. And then eventually, like, a third perfect candidate for me is going to come along. Is that what you're saying?

[Claude]

Right.

[Jackie]

Like, you get.

[Claude]

You get three great loves in your life. Please. It's such a frustrating show to watch, and, like, I'm not into it anymore. I'm just, like, waiting for them to play the Taylor Swift songs. That's literally it.

[Jackie]

Yeah. Yeah. It sounds really bad. Like, when you.

[Claude]

It is her and her stupid red lipstick. I couldn't get over it. And, like, they do a lot of, like, subtle product placement on the show, and I was just waiting for, like, a Revlon, you know, but it wasn't and if I'm a makeup brand, like.

[Jackie]

I don't want nobody associated claim it. Maybe they saw the footage. Maybe they sponsored it, saw the footage and said, never mind, forget it.

[Claude]

Take control, Z.

[Jackie]

Keep our name out your mouth.

[Claude]

Literally. So that's what I did last night. Just, like, keeping up with our tween demographic because, you know, we're huge with the Gen Z's, and I just want them to, like, yeah, I'm watching the same show as you. I'm young and hip. I might have had a baby, but I'm still extremely cool.

[Jackie]

But they like the show. So just you not liking the show like, it does that give old shows my age?

[Claude]

I will say I think the people critiquing the show are, like, the older.

[Jackie]

People.

[Claude]

I think, but I don't know. I don't know.

[Jackie]

Yeah. What are, what do they say, like, on TikTok, like, when you see people, like, love it, it's like a cultural up everything.

[Claude]

Yeah.

[Jackie]

Yeah. I think you're showing your age, but that's a bridge too far. Like, you can't watch a show for the young people and then also pretend to like it for the young people.

[Claude]

And then start lying like, that's crazy.

[Jackie]

No, that's not what we do here.

[Claude]

I just really loved those books. I was definitely, like, a little too old to be reading them, but I really enjoyed them. And I do think, for the most part, they've adapted the show quite well. But, like, they're really making a meal out of this reunion. And it's like, I, I tuned into the show for three seasons just to see the reunion. Like, what am I gonna get at this point? Less than an episode of them together.

[Jackie]

Maybe they're preparing for Shayla.

[Claude]

Shayla's big return.

[Jackie]

Shayla's big return.

[Claude]

I love that.

[Jackie]

Let me know if it happens.

[Claude]

I will. I'll keep you updated on Shayla's big grand reveal.

[Jackie]

Can't wait.

[Claude]

What's with you?

[Jackie]

Not too much. What did I watch last night? I, I, I'm ready to start something new. I heard, like, Love is Blind. Denver is out.

[Claude]

Is it out? I saw that Netflix just released, like, pictures of the people.

[Jackie]

Oh, okay. You can't go buy those pictures, by the way.

[Claude]

Ready to dive into a new season of Love is Blind? Love is Blind. UK didn't do it for me, but it gave me, like, you know, the appetite for it.

[Jackie]

Like, if I just looked at the pictures from Love is Buying uk and I think a lot of the cont since like, posted their photos they were like, don't look at me. Those pictures are so cruel towards the contestants.

[Claude]

Agreed.

[Jackie]

So I don't want to have any preconceived notions. I won't be looking at the photos. But I'm excited for the season to start. I was actually going to start Perfect Match because, you know, my girl Juliet was on it and Freddie.

[Claude]

Yes. And by the way, I know the outcome of Freddie's time on the show. Do you?

[Jackie]

Based on what? No, I don't. Based on what? You know, should I watch? No. Okay.

[Claude]

He gets together with someone who I know. You know, from a different show.

[Jackie]

Who.

[Claude]

And you. You want me to tell you?

[Jackie]

Yeah, yeah. Now that you said no.

[Claude]

So remember the most previous season of Love is Blind where there was like the love triangle with Ben Platt and that girl Madison.

[Jackie]

Yeah.

[Claude]

Freddie and, like, matched with Madison and they're like, together on the show. Although they announced afterwards that they didn't make it, you know, after the show wrapped.

[Jackie]

Okay, that's good. I guess, like, that would be worse, him being with someone that, like, I don't love for him.

[Claude]

Right.

[Jackie]

But I do need him on more shows.

[Claude]

Oh, I forgot to tell you. Huge update in my life. I got a water machine and you.

[Jackie]

Didn'T forget to tell me.

[Claude]

Oh, sorry, I forgot to tell you on the show.

[Jackie]

Yeah, I. I saw you consuming your water, raving about.

[Claude]

Yeah, like, it's one of those machines that like, just water comes out of. You know, like a water machine.

[Jackie]

Yeah.

[Claude]

I've used it twice already. I'm drinking water today. Slay the house down boots. Just like, I don't know, kind of grown girl health things. Yeah. And once I told Ben, like, it's like I can't even just have something, you know, I told Ben, I'm like, I got a water machine. He's like, we should get one for the house. I'm like, well, we shouldn't cuz it's big and black and ugly. It's fine for the office, but not for my home. He was like, well, I really need it, like for my sourdough.

[Jackie]

So you know what you have, you have a water cooler. Are you going to be having chats?

[Claude]

If only I had like, co workers.

[Jackie]

We would like, chat by the water cooler just. Just to talk to populate them around your water cooler.

[Claude]

Oh, Ben did start his loaf this morning. I have to update everyone.

[Jackie]

I know. He texted me saying it's bread day. I said, keep me updated. You FaceTime me because he had a question. I am very excited for the two of you on your journey.

[Claude]

I mean, I personally feel like I've been lied to. I thought I would have bread for, like, the last week. I've just been, like, watching this smelly, yeasty mason jar on my counter grow mold, and so I'm ready to, like, receive a product.

[Jackie]

Yeah. It will still be, like, another 24 hours, but. Yeah. Yeah, you're getting close.

[Claude]

Maybe today, like, it's coronation day. He was like, it's bread day.

[Jackie]

Great. Every day is bread day.

[Claude]

Monday, Tuesday, bread day.

[Jackie]

I need to make a loaf. I feel like my loaves that I made last week, they're so good, by the way, but I feel like they're gonna, like, they're about to mold, and then I'm gonna have nothing.

[Claude]

I made a loaf this morning.

[Jackie]

Apargi loaf.

[Claude]

Yeah. Just like my morning loaf.

[Jackie]

Don't be yucky. Don't be yucky.

[Claude]

Why? I don't. I don't have a period because I'm breastfeeding. You know, actually slay. A lot of people don't know. You don't get a period while you're breastfeeding. Part of the reason why I'm doing it.

[Jackie]

Well, not every. Everyone's different. People get their period when they're breastfeeding. Not for real.

[Claude]

Yeah, the doctor said, like, no, you don't.

[Jackie]

No, no. It's not 100 for everyone. Some people get their period back while they're breastfeeding. I know. It's like, you have it.

[Claude]

It's like. No, I don't think that that's true. No, no.

[Jackie]

It literally is true.

[Claude]

Slay the house down. Yeah. Like, no period. So, like, if I can't talk about that bodily function, I'm gonna have to talk about something else. And speaking of bodily functions, Jackie and I recorded a picture of periods. Yes. We did a little update. New mama stuff, pregnancy stuff. With Jackie, checking in with her, checking in with me. It was hilarious. And, yeah, they're not becoming a leader in the space for sure.

[Jackie]

She's so open. She's so vulnerable.

[Claude]

Oh, did you see? Is this a story that Nina Dobrev and Sean might have broken up.

[Jackie]

I did.

[Claude]

See. I just. I just briefly checked my phone during, you know, a little production moment, and. Okay. So I didn't know if you had it for your stories.

[Jackie]

Yeah, I did. I'm up on the trades.

[Claude]

Okay. Okay. Yeah, of course. I don't know why I expected anything else.

[Jackie]

Yeah, well, if you want to get into it, we could get into it.

[Claude]

How are the stories today? There's no there's no segment today. It's just a regular episode of the Toast.

[Jackie]

Sorry, everyone. It was so exciting yesterday. We had our segment. Everyone was.

[Claude]

Imagine you see us getting hate for our segment.

[Jackie]

I saw, like, three people were disgruntled that the segment wasn't, like, juicy enough.

[Claude]

Like, know that they said it was only one submission, not three. Like, you guys. It was an extra. Like, I seriously, dtq, I can't even defend you anymore. Like, please stop coming from my neck.

[Jackie]

And then they were like, in. The submission wasn't even that good. And I didn't.

[Claude]

Like, I thought it was really good.

[Jackie]

No, it was an extra. Like, it was a fun extra.

[Claude]

I believe the words you were looking for are thank you.

[Jackie]

Yeah, like, you're welcome.

[Claude]

My God. Like, I seriously, I. I used to come from a place of, like, understanding with the dtq and now I'm coming from a place of hate. Like, seriously, get off my back.

[Jackie]

Yeah, that was really crazy. But it was only, like, a couple people. It wasn't like the overwhelming response.

[Claude]

Yes.

[Jackie]

Episode, but still, like, come on, guys, do better. Just, like, enjoy the. The bonus. The bonus. Jonas.

[Claude]

Speaking of the bonus. No, I'm kidding. I had nothing to say that. The bonus shown us.

[Jackie]

Oh, okay, cool. Okay, so let's get into the story, shall we? Without further ado, da do da do. It is time for the Fast 5 stories that you do need to know.

[Claude]

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[Jackie]

I gave Magic Spoon to the boys this morning. How kismet.

[Claude]

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[Jackie]

We had the frosted flavor because we finished like the one that's like the colorful fruity one. They loved that. But we finished the box so we opened a new box and they loved it.

[Claude]

Like it's great for kids because like sometimes you just gotta throw a handful of cereal like on their tape on.

[Jackie]

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[Claude]

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[Jackie]

I just got the parties cases from Velvet Caviar and I'm so excited.

[Claude]

But I'm also thinking about getting a new phone, which is going to be really annoying because I have to get new cases, so.

[Jackie]

Yeah, but they stay up on it, you know. Yeah, they do the inside track because, like, they'll have a case for you as soon as you have a new phone.

[Claude]

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[Jackie]

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[Claude]

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[Jackie]

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[Claude]

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[Jackie]

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[Claude]

Today, truly, I mean, every day. Every day, Every day.

[Jackie]

Every day is part J Monday, Monday, Tuesday, Part J. Our first story. Love is dead. Sean White and Nina Bro Dobrev. And their engagement and sports split after five years. So Nina Dobrev and Shaun White have, against all odds, been dating.

[Claude]

It's so true. It was a fun fling that, like.

[Jackie]

We all just, like, we're into worlds coming together. And then they were engaged. Yeah, they got engaged October 2024. So I guess, like, it's been a.

[Claude]

Year or get off the pot.

[Jackie]

They started dating in 2019. And you know what? I'm surprised by this. I feel like they were going to go the distance.

[Claude]

Who gets Miles Teller in the divorce?

[Jackie]

I think she does.

[Claude]

Yeah. Because of her close relationship with Kelly.

[Jackie]

Yeah, I think. But maybe, like, him and Sean will remain friends for a little bit until it becomes unfeasible.

[Claude]

Yeah. This is so interesting because it was like this random thing. They were spotted together and it definitely seemed like a fun night out or whatever, but it turned into this, like, really fun, cute relationship. They were friends with so many celebrities. They were always spotted out. I think for Nina, it was like a great get because, like, for so long, Nina was just like, the girl. And I didn't keep up with Vampire Diaries, but it's actually crazy how famous she is when she. I know she's worked since then, but not in anything meaningful. But she's sort of like the Jennifer Aniston. There was, like a love triangle and she was the injured party and that was, like, always her thing. They were always talking about. I think it was Ian. Right. I don't know.

[Jackie]

And Nikki.

[Claude]

Yeah. Obsessed.

[Jackie]

And they're still together and they, like, live a quiet life. And she has one pair of jeans that she wears every day.

[Claude]

Yeah. She's one of those people. Nikki Reader, like, gave up all her material. Earthly items could never be me. So when she got in this new relationship, I was, like, actually really happy for her because it looked really cute. But also, like, it took her out of this narrative, finally, of being like this loser in the. In the triangle, like the girl who lost. And I really thought they were. I didn't even think about them. I'm like, they're just a couple, you know, they're together forever. I thought they would eventually get married. I didn't even think about them when it came to people, like, who could possibly be breaking up.

[Jackie]

Yeah. It's a Loss for sure.

[Claude]

Huge.

[Jackie]

And I'm not even excited. Like who will they date next? Nothing would be more like exciting than this. Like bridging two different worlds bringing together. They were very social couple. They were always like with other couples. They went through Covid together. I think she gave him a haircut. You know, they've been through a lot.

[Claude]

I do feel like it's possibly not the end. Like this could be a breakup that maybe pushes them finally down the aisle.

[Jackie]

Mm.

[Claude]

I don't know. I'm shocked by this.

[Jackie]

Yeah. I feel like it's the end. The source that they're saying that it was a mutual decision. Wasn't an easy one, but it was made with love and a deep respect for one another.

[Claude]

Sure.

[Jackie]

Wait, so you love each other stay together.

[Claude]

Right. If you have so much respect. What if you just can hope for.

[Jackie]

In a relationship is loving.

[Claude]

Right.

[Jackie]

Respect. Like those are two really good starting out points.

[Claude]

And you know, it's not like scheduling because she's really not that busy as an actress and he is retired.

[Jackie]

Well, I want to say like, do you think maybe she fell in love with her co star from it happened one Summer? Because that's what that movie needs. Agreed.

[Claude]

But no, it would be great for the movie. But now.

[Jackie]

Why now?

[Claude]

Because I think like what she had with Sean was better than that. Do you know what I mean? Like a. Like a.

[Jackie]

You don't think seeing Tyler Ho Chill as the fisherman.

[Claude]

And I think they've started production. So like that would be crazy if they started fudgeing.

[Jackie]

Weathering the storm.

[Claude]

No store.

[Jackie]

What does he call it when he would give her a hug? A charging station.

[Claude]

Oh my God. That's such a niche reference from the book. How do you remember that?

[Jackie]

Cute.

[Claude]

Yeah. Charging station. That is cute.

[Jackie]

Like, how could she not fall for him in his charging station?

[Claude]

Jackie, they haven't started yet.

[Jackie]

Maybe at the table read she got charged up maybe.

[Claude]

I don't think they've table read yet.

[Jackie]

Maybe screen testing.

[Claude]

This is really crazy. Like I do wonder what breaks up a couple like that. Like they don't have real problems.

[Jackie]

You know, I could see him being a little non committal. Like maybe there was never gonna be a wedding maybe.

[Claude]

Right.

[Jackie]

You know, he's kind of dicking her around a little bit. And she was a off get off the pod situation.

[Claude]

Right.

[Jackie]

And so she has to get off the ride.

[Claude]

I weirdly know a lot about Sean White because Ben made me watch his documentary which was very good actually on Netflix. And he. We. He like means a lot to, like, a certain generation of men, my husband included. Like, he's literally Ben's idol. I've actually been thinking a lot about who are Ben's idols? Because Ben has, like, a lot of different personalities. And last night I was actually thinking of who are Ben's idols, And I think this is who Ben's idols are. Jack Black, Stanley Tucci.

[Jackie]

Okay.

[Claude]

I would go as far to say Sean White. Like, he's definitely in there. And then somebody, like, musical.

[Jackie]

What about, like, Kobe? He loves.

[Claude]

No, but who's Ben's favorite basketball player? It was, like, John Wall, who was, like, this. Nick. Yeah. Like, let me. I'm gonna ask Ben. Hold on.

[Jackie]

I feel like it was Kobe. He was really affected by the passing.

[Claude]

He was. But I think all young men were, right?

[Jackie]

No, but I think he's just like, everyone's. All young men, like, their idol, Stanley Tucci.

[Claude]

Really?

[Jackie]

Stanley Tucci?

[Claude]

Yes.

[Jackie]

I feel like between. Between Jack Black and Ina Garten. Like, you have Stanley Tucci covered.

[Claude]

No, I think Ben, like, really respects, like, his masculine approach to, like, the culinary space, honestly.

[Jackie]

Okay.

[Claude]

Jelly Tucci, Jack Black. What about a basketball player who's. I feel like I'm forgetting who's. Well, Jalen Brunson, but, like, that's new.

[Jackie]

That is new. Jalen Brunson didn't raise him.

[Claude]

No. John Wall did.

[Jackie]

Michael Jordan.

[Claude]

John Wall? No. What's the guy's name? John Stark.

[Jackie]

What about John Wall? Like, no, he's not a Jordan guy.

[Claude]

No. Who are, like, the great basketball players?

[Jackie]

Wayne Gretzky.

[Claude]

He plays hockey.

[Jackie]

No, I know, but he's, like, someone who's, like, an iconic sportsman a lot.

[Claude]

Of young men look up to.

[Jackie]

Iconic sportsman of New York.

[Claude]

Is Wayne Gretzky. New York.

[Jackie]

He's a Ranger.

[Claude]

Oh, I didn't know that. I have to think. No, it's John Stark for sure.

[Jackie]

Not John Wall.

[Claude]

Yeah. I got confused. That was a different basketball player.

[Jackie]

Influential.

[Claude]

No. Ben, like, tells the story. And John Stark is also, like. Because he's, like, a very famous. Nick. He moves in a lot of Jewish circles because, like, literally only Knicks fans are, like, young Jewish boys. And I believe John Stark was, like, at Ben's bar mitzvah or something.

[Jackie]

What about Derek Jeter?

[Claude]

Ben wasn't huge into baseball. Like, really? Ben's like, love. He loves basketball.

[Jackie]

Not Mike Piazza.

[Claude]

No, no, I know Mike Piazza is your idol.

[Jackie]

Yeah. What about any football players? Tim Tebow?

[Claude]

No.

[Jackie]

Car. Mark Sanchez.

[Claude]

That's my idol.

[Jackie]

Yeah. Where is he?

[Claude]

He's in my tms, actually. Mark Sanchez, because we spoke about him once on the toast and he messaged me and I just, like, didn't answer because I felt weird.

[Jackie]

So moving on. I can't.

[Claude]

Yeah, right. If I talked about you on the toes, like, do not message me. Do not come. Okay.

[Jackie]

No, please stop.

[Claude]

Did we learn nothing from Tariq? Like, stop it.

[Jackie]

Are you ready for our next story?

[Claude]

Yeah.

[Jackie]

Kylie Kelsey said she's made a very conscious effort not to discuss Taylor Swift and Travis Kelsey's engagement. So Kylie Kelsey hopped on the pod today to address some rumors swirling because I guess she never talked about the engagement on her podcast. Since they've gotten engaged, she didn't congratulate the couple. She must have been getting so much backlash because she felt the need to address it on her podcast today. She said, quote, I have made a very conscious effort to not discuss Taylor and Travis on this podcast because news outlets, tabloids, and AI quite frankly, like to post quotes from whatever I say in reference to them. She said that, like, pretty much like she has a private relationship with them. If she has something to say or congratulate them, like, she just texts them. She doesn't need to say it on the show. She hates when people just like, take what she says, either one out of context or two, like, make a whole meal out of it. And it's like, hey, you know, eyes up here. I'm doing a show.

[Claude]

I totally agree with her sentiment. Like, what she's actually saying is like, no, she doesn't need to make a comment every time something happens to people who are not her. Like, but that's like.

[Jackie]

But also, like, that's not even what. It's not a comment. It's just, it's a woohoo. Like, you know, but it becomes a news story.

[Claude]

Like, I know what she's saying. It's annoying.

[Jackie]

It's the biggest story in the country. You know, it's not like you just like skipped over your brother in law's personal news. Like, the biggest story in country. She does a podcast every week where they like, talk about relevant items.

[Claude]

Like her husband and his podcast, like, talked about it.

[Jackie]

We're literally going out of your way to not talk about it.

[Claude]

And like, I listened to the clip of her talking about it. Like she had a attitude, like she was hostile. I'm sorry. If anything, like, I think more than ever now, and I've always thought like, these two, like, definitely have a good relationship because, like, they both want it to work and like, they're not trying to like, start stuff. But if they were in high school. Like, they would hate each other. Right. They're polar opposite in terms of personality. Taylor is like glittery fun.

[Jackie]

Like, it's funny because in this picture of them side by side, like, they literally could be sisters. They are sisters, but.

[Claude]

Well, they are sisters. They just seem like two totally different personality types who wouldn't be friends. Right, right, exactly. And I've always thought that, like, they're actually not a good match, friendship wise. But there's probably no bad blood and there probably isn't bad blood, but like, I don't know, Kylie's like unnecessarily, like, harsh in her tone because I don't agree disagree with what she's saying at all. Like, it's like, why do I have to make a comment all the time? But like, you do. Like, you do.

[Jackie]

Yeah. And here's like, I feel like if she never said anything, I would have, like, less concern because I understand why she doesn't talk about them. There are a lot of things that you could say as to why, like, she wouldn't talk about them, Donna wouldn't. Like, it's. It's this larger than life sort of thing. You don't want to, like, step in Taylor's world. You don't want to say the wrong thing.

[Claude]

Can I play the clip? I feel like.

[Jackie]

Sure. Could I finish what I was saying?

[Claude]

Oh, sorry. Yeah, sorry. That was so rude. Yeah, sorry. Sorry. You got it.

[Jackie]

And I do think sometimes, like, you can't explain yourself. Like, she would have been better off not explaining herself because it's not reading a hundred percent. Even though they might have a fine relationship and things are fine, but, like, sometimes people will never understand what you're trying to say or understand the full picture. And it's like, not worth explaining yourself because you can only do it halfway.

[Claude]

No. And so she didn't congratulate them because she didn't want it to become a story. But now, like, her addressing the non addressing is becoming the story and it's like, it's negative.

[Jackie]

Yeah. And like, she could always have these reasons in her head for why she doesn't talk about them. And I think there are plenty more than what she just said. But trying to explain it, it's really hard for people to understand.

[Claude]

And this is the explanation. And I just want to say I understand what she's saying. Her tone makes me think, like, she doesn't even believe what she's saying because what she's. What she's saying and how she's saying it are Totally different.

[Kylie Kelsey]

A very conscious effort to not discuss Taylor and Travis on this podcast.

[Jackie]

Is this on 1.5?

[Claude]

I don't know.

[Jackie]

When I listened to it, it sounded like sped up. So I feel like that we need to know that.

[Claude]

Okay.

[Kylie Kelsey]

I have made a very conscious effort to not discuss Taylor and Travis on this podcast because news outlets, tabloids and AI quite frankly like to post only the quotes that they grab from whatever I say in reference to them. And here's that. I. Here's where I think there is a disconnect. People do not realize that you, at home you have your family and in your family you might have a brother in law and they might be dating someone. They might have. You might have a soon to be sister in law, but you have a relationship personally with them that no one else is involved in because it's your relationship. And so I don't need to come out here pause and make.

[Jackie]

I just want to say that point was not well made.

[Claude]

I don't even know what she's saying, honestly, about my sister in law.

[Jackie]

She's saying something. The point was not well made. Which is like it's. It's an impossible task to try and explain yourself. Go on.

[Claude]

It is. And also like you might have a sister in law. Right? But not. But no, I'm saying not all of you are public figures. That's like, it's not a relatable analogy. Yes, I have a sister in law. She is not a public figure. I would never like put her on blast here or talk about like what's going on in her life. She's a private citizen. Like that's. It's not a relatable analogy.

[Jackie]

No, it's not. Because like if your sister in law got engaged, like you say congratulations, nobody's like looking to you for anything else.

[Claude]

Right.

[Jackie]

Point was not well made statements when.

[Kylie Kelsey]

I already talked to them. You see what I'm saying?

[Claude]

No, we know that you talked to them. We didn't think that you didn't congratulate them privately. We just know you didn't congratulate them publicly. So we were like, what's going on?

[Jackie]

We weren't by the way. Pause.

[Claude]

Oh yeah. I didn't even think that.

[Jackie]

I didn't even notice it. And now I'm like noticing stuff.

[Claude]

My.

[Kylie Kelsey]

I don't need you to take my comments and try and dissect it. I think it goes without being said. I am.

[Claude]

Okay. I would agree with her wholeheartedly if she didn't host a podcast. She's like begrudgingly famous.

[Jackie]

Yeah, I get it.

[Claude]

She's like, she's. She's the opposite of. She does not want this life, but she does have a podcast and she is a part of this. So, like, I would agree with what everything she was saying if she wasn't saying it on her own weekly podcast.

[Jackie]

That'S like, not devoid from, like, her relevant topics and. Relevant topics in the world.

[Claude]

She talks about her family, she talks about what's going on in the world. So, like, what's going on in the world with your family is Taylor.

[Jackie]

Yeah.

[Kylie Kelsey]

So incredibly happy for them. We are so excited that they are taking this next step. The girls are so excited to get another aunt. I am so truly happy for them and I feel so happy for them. And I feel so grateful that we get to welcome Taylor into our family in a more official capacity.

[Jackie]

And I just feel like when you have to say, like, I expected that you're happy for them. I'm expecting. The girls are so excited when you have to say just reads wrong.

[Claude]

And I just want to say if I'm Taylor and I'm hearing this, like, I'm not feeling warm and fuzzy, you know, but.

[Jackie]

And that's why it's like. And then Kylie will, like, if she heard this sort of criticism, she would.

[Claude]

Be like, say anything.

[Jackie]

And for me, I'm like, and you should have stayed not saying anything because there's really nothing that you can say that's ever gonna, like, wash away. If people have this sort of like, niggling concern, which I didn't even. I can understand that. They're just like sister in laws.

[Claude]

You ended up saying something and what you said wasn't just congratulations, you know, like, because if you weren't going to say anything, say nothing, stick to that. I love that. I really do.

[Jackie]

Because I, like, know in your heart that you've been there for them and of course you're close and the whole world is crazy.

[Claude]

Right, Right. But the fact that you did end up doing a segment on your podcast about it and it wasn't just like, congrats. Yeah, yeah.

[Kylie Kelsey]

But it's our private relationship, so that's my brother in law Travis and my soon to be sister in law Taylor. And so I don't, I don't need to talk about him all the time. Our relationship is private between us.

[Claude]

It's giving bad blood. Like, I'm telling you, she seems mad.

[Jackie]

Yeah. It's giving, angry. But like, that's also just like her. Her shtick also. You have to real, like, her tone in her podcast is like, you know.

[Claude]

Yelling at very, like, this is how. Not, sorry, not gonna lie. Like, this is how it is.

[Jackie]

She's like, seal at everyone.

[Claude]

Yeah. Literally us.

[Jackie]

Yeah. So it's like when you take it out of context, it like you're like, oh, why is she like talking like this right now? But she talks like that about everything on her podcast. But again, we are taking it out of context like you said we would do. And you just should have, like, had enough confidence in like knowing that, like, you guys have a great relationship. This is how you want to run your show. You don't want to, like, feed the beast.

[Claude]

It's like this huge thing in your brother and sister in law's life and like, you're not gonna address it, which, like, it's okay, whatever. But then you did address it. And so, like, you should have just addressed it when it happened and said, congratulations. But now, like, I don't know if I'm Taylor, maybe, like, they have like a really good, strong relationship. They're best friends, like, nothing can break them. But if I'm Taylor, I'm like, okay. Yeah, it's a little rude.

[Jackie]

Yeah. Not perfectly done, I would say.

[Claude]

And Ben says his sports idols are Kobe, Carmelo Anthony, Amari Stadmire, and Derek Jeter. I just don't feel like he ever.

[Jackie]

I'm two out of four.

[Claude]

I know. I just don't feel like he ever talks about these people. Like, honestly, I feel like he doesn't know what he's like. I'm misunderstanding the word idol.

[Jackie]

No. But I also feel like at the time that they shaped him as a young man. Like, you weren't his wife. So, like, maybe he doesn't talk about them anymore, but, like, maybe they were formative in his life. And I just want to say I'm 50 there.

[Claude]

Yeah, you were.

[Jackie]

And there was no John Stark.

[Claude]

Yeah, like, I feel like John Stark.

[Jackie]

Is from Game of Thrones.

[Claude]

What is basketball players name who I'm thinking of that.

[Jackie]

He's obviously not like a household name.

[Claude]

No, he's not. That's the thing. He's not John Stark.

[Jackie]

Right back. What about John Wall Stark, by the way? You're literally just talking about Game of Thrones John at the Wall Stark snow.

[Claude]

John Starks was a famous and popular shooting guard for the Knicks. I was right.

[Jackie]

So right back. What about John Starks?

[Claude]

What about John Stark? It's funny how, like you think you know your partner, you know?

[Jackie]

Yeah.

[Claude]

Like one of those women on Dateline.

[Jackie]

I wonder. I. I Feel like I could get sacks.

[Claude]

I feel like I could get sacks too. Drake, okay. Drake is definitely one of your husband's idols.

[Jackie]

Roger Stallback, Justin Timberlake, I think Kobe Bryant also, because he had.

[Claude]

Yeah, I think it's maybe like a universal.

[Jackie]

Like that. That's real love.

[Claude]

This is real, real, real, real love. All right, I'll keep you posted on John Stark. Please do John Stark at the wall with a knife.

[Jackie]

I don't know how I can go through the rest of the show without knowing.

[Claude]

Yeah. All set to say. I'm like, I'm just like, I can't lie. I think before this, I thought that. That there was weird blood. I could just see. I think I've said this on this podcast before. Like, I could just see Kylie really not liking Taylor and thinking she's annoying. They're such different.

[Jackie]

I don't think that has to be, like, bad blood, but I think sometimes, like, I think Taylor met Brittany and they were kindred spirits and, like, you feel that they don't have to spend as much time together as they do. They obviously connect and click and, like, sometimes that happens with people and then sometimes you don't have that click. Doesn't mean that you dislike each other or Haiti or that there's bad blood, but it's like, we don't have that, like, connection, which most people don't. It's a.

[Claude]

It's a rare thing to have just right. Like, it's just your sister in law.

[Jackie]

Like, yeah, Yeah. I think that's how their relationship is. Like, nothing negative or anything, but just, like, not this best friend for life.

[Claude]

Yeah. So before this, like, I had a little seed of doubt for sure. I think now some people have that seed because of this very strange podcast conversation. We'll just have to see.

[Jackie]

Yeah, like, will she be a bridesmaid?

[Claude]

And, like, if I guess, because Travis is, like, on the show, but, like, Jason, I feel like, is always down, like, to get in on Taylor lore and, like, ride the wave that is Taylor. Like, it's paid off for him in so many ways, career wise, success wise. It's introduced him to a generation of women who love him for him now, but they only know about him because of Taylor. And I feel like he's just always game and always on board and, like, doesn't care if it's like, well, Taylor and I feel like Kylie's just kind of the opposite. Like, she wants her own thing for.

[Jackie]

Sure, but they're like, they're different in a lot of ways other than just that so, like, I'm not going to say that that means anything. Like, he's a wild man. She's not.

[Claude]

Right.

[Jackie]

She's always sort of like chastising him for like, you know what I mean? They're very different. So.

[Claude]

Yeah.

[Jackie]

That they could be different in this sense too.

[Claude]

Yeah.

[Jackie]

Are you ready for our next story? Speaking of more family drama.

[Claude]

What?

[Jackie]

Prince Harry and King Charles reunited in London for the first time in over a year.

[Claude]

Oh, I didn't even see this.

[Jackie]

Yes, Harry was in London. He's been in London this week and he was spotted arriving at King Charles's London home, Clarence House, around 5:20pm local time Wednesday for a private tea. The pair chatted for just shy of an hour. Page Six is told much longer than the 30 minute meeting they had the last time that the Duke visited his father.

[Claude]

Damn. Like, I know that, like, there's a lot of bad relationships between Harry and the family, but like, him and Charles, like, definitely have one of the worst.

[Jackie]

Well, it has to be a little better than him and William because he did not see William.

[Claude]

True. But he's also like the King of England. So like, you also, as Harry, as like a Brit, a royal member of the family, like, you have to have also like a little bit of respect and visit. I think you, like, you have to visit.

[Jackie]

You have to be right. Yeah.

[Claude]

You don't have to visit William.

[Jackie]

Yeah. I mean, you don't have to visit Charles.

[Claude]

I don't know, like, how are you.

[Jackie]

Gonna come into his kingdom? Like, it's literally like.

[Claude]

Right.

[Jackie]

It's like you, you'll step into my land.

[Claude]

This is like Charles's world and Harry is just sort of living in it.

[Jackie]

Yeah.

[Claude]

Like, and I know that they want for their children a lot of things that the royal family can give them, like titles and royal protection and things like that. So, like, you do sort of have to kiss the ring.

[Jackie]

Yeah. You think Harry is still seeking those things?

[Claude]

Yes, I think it's really important to him and Megan that, like, the things that the royal family can give Archie and Lilibet, that, that they get them or they at least try to.

[Jackie]

Do they not have titles?

[Claude]

I honestly, I don't know and I can't keep up.

[Jackie]

Like, I can't because I also got.

[Claude]

Titles stripped from them and then they use them still for business. Like, there's a lot of confusion. I don't know.

[Jackie]

I can't like speculate because I, like, I don't want to be wrong. I don't want to, like the comments and Then the comments like that. I'm like, oh, so they said they have titles and then those comments are wrong. Everyone's wrong. Nobody knows what's going on. I agree with you.

[Claude]

Now it's interesting because I feel like Harry and Meghan take turns being the public facing person of their relationship. Like, it's definitely been Meghan's hour for the last year or so with the podcast and with the TV show. And before that it was Harry with the world tour and the books. I do feel like Megan's gonna start winding down soon. It's like hibernation, right? Like, she goes into the cave and he comes out. Maybe his big trip to London. Meeting with the king marks a changing of the guard. Season two is out. She's gonna start winding down. Yeah, he's gonna start winding up.

[Jackie]

He was at the Wild Child Awards, which Molly Mae was at, and she posted him.

[Claude]

Oh, I enjoy Megan's public facing era more than I, I really. You guys know I hate Harry. And with Megan, it's fun and it's light and it's unoffensive and, like, we have a good time with, with love. I got the PR package. Like, I, I, I really have an issue with him.

[Jackie]

No, with Megan, it's definitely, like, light and fun and there's a lot of, like, fodder for us. But, like, with Harry, it's tea. Like, it's just so crazy. Everything he does is so crazy and everything he doesn't do is so crazy.

[Claude]

Also true.

[Jackie]

Like, not seeing your brother. Your brother's having a hard year.

[Claude]

Brother. Right. And Kate.

[Jackie]

Right, Right. Like, things are bad enough, like, because people fight all the time, but then, like, big things, tragedies bring you together and you realize, like, the meaning of family and the meaning of life. And like, they're beyond that point. Which makes sense because he wrote a tell all book talking about him and her. That came out probably at a really difficult time, her life. Like, sometimes you cut off your brother just despite your face and, like, that'll do it. Like, that's. Cause I have no issue with William and Kate for not wanting to meet with him.

[Claude]

I just want to issue a correction. John Starks was not at Ben's bar mitzvah. He was in Ben's bar mitzvah video. They, like, made a video.

[Jackie]

He said he was at his bar mitzvah.

[Claude]

I believe I did. So who's not? So who's not listening to who?

[Jackie]

I missed that. That would have been crazy.

[Claude]

Yeah. Who?

[Jackie]

He was in his video. In what capacity?

[Claude]

I'm not sure. And I'm actually, like, I don't really care anymore, you know, kind of over John Sarg at the wall.

[Jackie]

Okay, are you ready for our fourth story?

[Claude]

Oh, my God. No. That was so quick.

[Jackie]

I know. I guess it wasn't like, remember when we talked about Sean White, and that was a while ago.

[Claude]

Sometimes I wish that I could freeze the picture. I'm having too much fun. Jackie, slow it down.

[Jackie]

Okay, I'll slow it down and I'll see if there's anything else. Maybe like a bonus extra story that.

[Claude]

You guys see if any news. Well, I do the ads, see if any news broke or anything. Okay.

[Jackie]

Yeah, that's what. Yeah, I always do when you're doing that.

[Claude]

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[Jackie]

Are you ready for our fourth story now?

[Claude]

Yes.

[Jackie]

Victoria Beckham's Netflix Docu Series Sets October Premiere Date so Victoria Beckham's upcoming Netflix series titled Victoria Beckham has set a premiere date. It is being produced by the production company that did David Beckham's documentary Studio 99. And that's also David Beckham's production company and they do a good job producing production.

[Claude]

They do. My takeaway from the Beckham documentary was like I want more of the Beckham family, obviously it was about him and his career, whatever. But like so many of the takeaways were people just being obsessed with him in Victoria and their life and and she had so many viral moments, drove a Bentley and she has the most fascinating life outside of her relationship with David. The Spice Girls Victoria Beckham Couture she's like literally for a very long period of time was one of the most famous women in the UK and I'm so looking forward to this. Of course I'm hoping they touch a little bit on what's going on with her daughter in law. But I because it's produced by David for David with David, like it's so not happening. But she's so interesting outside of this scandal that she seems to be a part of. So I'll be fine without it. Although it would be nice yeah.

[Jackie]

So it's going to chart the rise and rise of the Spice Girl turned fashion designer and mom of four. And then it will also follow her as she preps for another Fashion Week show. It'll be a three part series dropping on October 9th. But what will be interesting, and I doubt that they'll be there, is if Brooklyn and Nicola will go to the premiere. Because remember, for David, the whole family.

[Claude]

It was a big thing.

[Jackie]

So we will very much signal everything that we already know to be true. If they don't go, it'll also be.

[Claude]

Interesting who they bring in as like, you know, testimonials in a documentary. David had a lot of his, like, former players. I'm assuming a Spice Girl or two will be involved. You know, they're always available.

[Jackie]

Yeah. I wonder who. Maybe Anna Wintour.

[Claude]

Maybe Anna Win.

[Jackie]

Maybe Kim. Like, Kim is a friend of her evil. Longoria is a really good friend of hers.

[Claude]

And who were they saying when they moved to la they became really good friends with? Was it Tom Cruise? Yeah, I don't think he'll be in.

[Jackie]

He's not.

[Claude]

He's not one to be in a.

[Jackie]

Documentary and he would have been in David's.

[Claude]

Yeah, that was an interesting little factoid.

[Jackie]

Yeah, they're good friends.

[Claude]

I feel like they're just gonna give the people what they want because it was so good for them. Like, not that they've ever had an image issue or irrelevance issue, but they've definitely been like low key. Before David's documentary, they were just like, you know, not has been, of course not, but like an older sword, but it injected this new life. People became obsessed with them, their bees, their family, everything. So I really think they're just going to give people more of what want, which is behind the scenes, at home stuff with them, Victoria being her very posh self, talking about the Spice Girl. So I. There's literally. This isn't. There's no reason they, they shouldn't do this.

[Jackie]

No. And personally I'm very excited to watch it. Like, it's the exact sort of content I need right now. Like docu series. I want like, true, but I want serious and I want interesting, not just like nonsense.

[Claude]

And you know, they're both big stars. I don't. I don't know who I could say is like a more famous person in their relationship, but she does have an incredibly impress business that I don't think a lot of people even think of when they think of the whole Beckham ecosystem. She's literally at the Helm of like, a couture brand. Like Chanel. Not really, but, like, it's up there.

[Jackie]

Yeah. No, and it's not been done except by like, Mary Kate and Ashley would be comparable. But, like, the row gets its flowers all the time.

[Claude]

Right, right.

[Jackie]

Very excited.

[Claude]

Yes. I love this. And yeah, the premiere is another interesting. If they do have, like, a big red carpet affair, that'll just confirm. I don't know. I don't know why you're right. We confirmed, like, they were at the vow renewal.

[Jackie]

They're not gonna be there. But, like, because we have, like, this apples to apples comparison of, like, how it went for David's. They're not gonna be there.

[Claude]

They're not going to be there. Like, don't hold your breath.

[Jackie]

And that will really signal. Not that there's not been signals.

[Claude]

Right. Also, what happened to Victoria? No. Brooklyn and Nicola's like, renaissance with Selena Gomez. Like, was Nicola on Selena's Bachelorette?

[Jackie]

No.

[Claude]

What happened there? That was like a weird threesome friendship.

[Jackie]

I mean.

[Claude]

I mean, it was the kind of friendship like a couple only has, like a single woman. Like, it was, you know, now that she. Selena, has her own relationship. Like, it was definitely like a weird, like, third wheel thing.

[Jackie]

Yeah. No, it's weird. It's so weird to be so close and then not close. Like, and then. Yeah, it confirms weirdness. Like. Like, there's no way it confirms weirdness.

[Claude]

We'll see if they're. If they're at her wedding.

[Jackie]

Yeah, yeah.

[Claude]

If it's like a big affair, there's definitely weirdness. It's kind of seeming like maybe Nicola and Brooklyn are the problem, but we'll see.

[Jackie]

Well, that's for damn sure. Are you ready for our fifth and final story? Little new couple news. A little sports news, because Brooks Nader is dating tennis pro Carlos Alcaraz after sparking Yannick Sinner rumors.

[Claude]

Okay, so that's what I had heard, that she was dating Sinner. Who's.

[Jackie]

I think I said that because she was like, they're doing press for their show. She was on a radio show with us.

[Claude]

And by the way, someone else told me that too.

[Jackie]

I heard it elsewhere because they were spe. They were saying on the show that, like, the sisters were saying. They were talking about Brooks, like, oh, she's dating someone. Yeah, it's. She's being court. It. You know, in her racket. Like, it was like they were dropping all these clues and the ball's in your court. Love.

[Claude]

Love. Right, Right.

[Jackie]

And people deduce that it was Deuce.

[Claude]

Okay, I'm done.

[Jackie]

People deduce deuced that it was Yannick Sinner, right? But it was actually Carlos Alcaraz who won the US Open. Like, he's the biggest sleigh.

[Claude]

I'm sorry. I know Yannick Sinner is technically the number one ranked player in the world, but in terms of fame, it's Alcaraz. Such a sleigh the house down. And I'm sorry. Like, when it comes to. I feel like we've been talking a lot about, like, tennis wags like Paige Lorenz. Like, we need Brooks in there. Get in there, girl.

[Jackie]

Yeah. I worry, though, that they're not that serious and, like, putting it out there, it's just going to be like a flash in the pan. Like, a lot of times, like, people date for a while under water. Like, think of it like an iceberg. They have all this underwater, and then you just see the tip at the top. But there's all that there. I just feel like we're just seeing the tip at the top and it's like, not a lasting thing.

[Claude]

No, it's going fling. But I'm having fun.

[Jackie]

She said the rumors are true. Dating is such a loose term. But I do know he's the man of the hour.

[Claude]

Where did she say that?

[Jackie]

She's so crazy to enus. She is crazy. And I watched the first two episodes of Love Thy Nater and they're about Gleb because, like, he was meant to be, like, her boyfriend on the show and, like, be in the show. And then in the first episode, like, she catches him really accidentally. Like, like, caught him, like, cheating in such, like, vigorous, voracious way. Like, he left her apartment, and he left her phone at his. At her apartment. And he, like, left to go back on Dance with the Stars tour. And so first she's, like, calling him a million times and he's not picking up. And she, like, is, like, freaking out. She's, like, heartsick. Like, she thinks he's, like, ghosting her. Whatever. Then he finally gets in touch and said, I left my phone in the Uber. I left my phone in the Uber. So the Uber then dropped it off. Dropped it off apartment. Like, Brooks just, like, has this feeling that she should go through it and she gets into it and they don't even tell us the extent of what she found. But it was, like, all about, like, him having, like, threesomes in Joshua Tree. Scheduling upcoming threesomes. Videos of former. What the. Yeah, like, really twisted stuff. And, like, they were feeling so sick. Like, he's live. He was, like, staying in an apartment with her and her three gorgeous sisters. Probably, like, fantasizing about having, like. Yeah, really disgusting. And she is torn up about it. And that's like, glub.

[Claude]

She's so crazy, though, because, like, she was linked to Tom Brady. She's like, so upper echelon. Like, she's dating, like, the. The most eligible guys. But she's also, like, kind of low brow talking to you. Like, yeah, I'm dating them. Like, she's kind of crazy.

[Jackie]

I'm like, dating her Dancing with the Stars partner.

[Claude]

Right. That's low brown.

[Jackie]

It is. And I. I think her sisters were saying. Because they were sus on him, like, from the whole first episode. And I think they were just saying, like, she's never been, like, adored like this before. They called it love bombing. But I just think, like, he just, like, she loved the way their relationship was. But, girl, you could do so much better. And you are.

[Claude]

No, I know. It makes me like, Excuse me. I literally just burped into the microphone. I'm sorry, guys. It makes me confused.

[Jackie]

Yeah, it's confusing. But her and her sisters are really cute. They're like four girls. They have such a cute dynamic. My favorite is Mary Holland because she, like, works in finance and she's.

[Claude]

She's not about this life.

[Jackie]

Yeah. No. And I think she's dating an Earl.

[Claude]

Love that.

[Jackie]

Yeah. And she's just like the one like, that has like the, you know, she's like the straight voice of reason voice. Yeah. Like, and so I really. I. I like getting to know her.

[Claude]

So you think she's probably like, the Turdy?

[Jackie]

For sure. And they're all, like, just so gorgeous. But I also, like, I need more information on them. Like, I feel like they just, like, drop the show. They're like, Brooks, we grew up in Louisiana, and Brooks brought us all to New York and we're here. Sports Illustrated, whatever. I'm like, how did we go from a.

[Claude]

Maybe it's just that, like.

[Jackie]

No, but, like, I just feel like there's so. I have so many questions about, like, the last five, 10 years, you know, and now they're all living in an apartment together in New York, which is, like, great for the show, but it's like, well, is it a nice apartment? It's so nice. How many.

[Claude]

How many bedrooms?

[Jackie]

I don't know. And, like, are you just moving in for, like, two months to film the show? Like. Right. Just. I just want more information. I'm sure, like, there. Maybe there's more in subsequent episodes.

[Claude]

Yeah. Maybe if you watch more than two episodes, you get the information.

[Jackie]

I just, like, wanted to get. I just need more backstory and like, even, like, Brooks's divorce.

[Claude]

Right. And he's dating Naomi or Lindo, and.

[Jackie]

They just kind of, like, skirt over that. Which I understand, because, like.

[Claude]

Right.

[Jackie]

You're not gonna, like, bring him into it. He's pitching tomorrow, and he's kind of like a common person. He's not a celebrity person.

[Claude]

Yeah.

[Jackie]

But I'm gonna need more info.

[Claude]

Yeah, I'm gonna need more info.

[Jackie]

So anyways, mazel tov. Like, to Brooks and Carlos. I hope that it goes a distance.

[Claude]

Yeah, it definitely is giving. Like, he's in New York for the US Open, and, like, this is how he's celebrating. But if they do, I'm down for them to last. But Brooks, I just feel like she's on this, like, upward trajectory. This is just one notch in her bed post.

[Jackie]

Agree. But I also feel like she's, like, a lover and would, like, love to be in a relationship. And. And. But on the other hand, then her and her sisters were saying she has a roster, so I don't know where she's at today.

[Claude]

Me neither. I know where I'm at, and that's. I'm literally minutes from peeing in my pants. So that's how I know it's. Sometimes there's, like, your body tells you that the show is over. Usually. Usually I get hungry.

[Jackie]

Yeah.

[Claude]

Sometimes I have to pee. Sometimes my coccydin is flaring up so bad, it's like, if I go one more minute on this show, I will end up in the hospital sometimes sweating, of course. But I don't know if I told you, some of you guys, nobody's really noticed my little black remote. Sometimes you guys might see, in the last, like, week or two, I've just been, like, clicking my remote.

[Jackie]

I've got a presentation.

[Claude]

Yeah. Literally, I'm giving TED Talk. No, it's actually. It's my standing fan. So the sweating issue is, like, not really a problem for me anymore because I took matters into my own hands.

[Jackie]

Parched.

[Claude]

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[Jackie]

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[Claude]

I need you to. I need you to say leave a message. Like we have to leave it. It's. It's. It's too cute. Do it again.

[Jackie]

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[Claude]

Wait. Now do it again with a lisp.

[Jackie]

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