The Power of Fresh Undies: Friday, April 11th, 2025

Summary

The Toast Podcast Summary: "The Power of Fresh Undies" (April 11, 2025)

In this lively episode of The Toast, hosts Jackie and Claudia Oshry delve into a variety of engaging topics, blending personal anecdotes with pop culture discussions. Titled "The Power of Fresh Undies," the episode offers listeners a mix of humor, personal insights, and topical commentary. Below is a detailed summary capturing the key points, discussions, notable quotes, and conclusions from the episode.

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1. Reflecting on a Busy Week

Claudia Oshry kicks off the conversation by expressing amazement at how quickly the week flew by, referencing the release of "White Lotus" and their own merchandise launch. Both hosts acknowledge the hectic pace and the hard work they've put in.

• Claudia (00:10): "I have worked hard."
• Jackie (01:33): "It's been a week."

2. Book Club and Lucy Score Discussion

The hosts discuss their upcoming book club selection, lamenting that Jackie hasn’t yet read any of Lucy Score's works. They debate the merits of romance novels that prioritize intimate scenes over plot development.

• Claudia (02:10): "We want a snitch's choice."
• Jackie (02:22): "I have never read Lucy Score."

They highlight the challenge of balancing engaging plots with romantic elements, appreciating Score's ability to blend sweetness with subtle world-building.

3. Pregnancy and the Shift to Pads

Claudia shares her transition from using underwear to pads during pregnancy, influenced by Jackie’s persistent encouragement. She humorously describes the discomfort and awkwardness of wearing pads compared to tampons.

• Claudia (04:07): "It's just like a dick between your legs."
• Jackie (06:00): "That's literally a dick between your legs."

Jackie relates her own experience, stemming from a medical necessity, and praises the feeling of freshness pads provide, likening them to "friendies."

• Jackie (06:56): "Friendies. You love friendies."

4. Acupuncture Adventures

Claudia recounts her recent acupuncture session, noting the unexpected boredom and her struggle to remain mindful without her phone. Jackie suggests bringing nature sounds instead of her usual Taylor Swift playlist to enhance the experience.

• Claudia (07:37): "Nobody told you?"
• Jackie (08:20): "Maybe a playlist."

They humorously discuss the logistics of the appointment, including an accidental delivery of snacks instead of pads, leading to a mix-up that fortunately included the pads she needed.

5. Passover Preparations

As Passover approaches, Jackie and Claudia discuss their preparations, focusing on avoiding bread and other leavened products. They touch upon dietary restrictions and the challenges of adhering to tradition while managing modern lifestyles.

• Claudia (10:05): "How many kids do you want to have?"
• Jackie (10:38): "Guilt is a powerful emotion."

6. Fast 5 Stories: Pop Culture and Personal News

a. Alex and Ashton Earl’s Vogue Turkey Cover

Jackie and Claudia celebrate Alex and Ashton Earl gracing the digital cover of Vogue Turkey. They discuss the authenticity and impact of this milestone, comparing it to American Vogue and expressing excitement for the Earl sisters' growing influence.

• Jackie (26:33): "Are you ready for our next story?"
• Claudia (27:16): "They looked so cute."

b. Eric Dane’s ALS Diagnosis and Euphoria Season Three

The hosts express sadness over Eric Dane’s diagnosis with ALS and his commitment to continuing filming Euphoria despite his condition. They discuss the challenges of ALS and its impact on individuals and their careers.

• Jackie (32:33): "So sad."
• Claudia (32:41): "ALS is like Lou Gehrig's disease."

c. Justin Bieber Quits Drew House

Jackie and Claudia analyze Justin Bieber’s decision to leave his fashion brand, Drew House, following a confrontation with paparazzi. They debate the implications of his actions and the potential signs of his mental state.

• Jackie (36:08): "Who yells at them?"
• Claudia (37:32): "I feel like you can't tell them nothing."

d. Gwyneth Paltrow on Blended Families

The duo discusses Gwyneth Paltrow’s reflections on her blended family and her regrets about not having more children. They commend her openness about the challenges of step-parenting and maintaining family harmony.

• Jackie (42:01): "She did an episode of her podcast."
• Claudia (43:26): "They have it down."

e. Dove Cameron on Armchair Expert

Jackie and Claudia delve into Dove Cameron’s appearance on Armchair Expert, highlighting her candid discussions about her past and her relationship with her late father. They praise her maturity and emotional depth showcased during the interview.

• Jackie (50:46): "She's thoroughly therapies."
• Claudia (51:04): "She's supremely talented."

7. Final Segments: Queenie and Weenie

In their customary wrap-up, Jackie and Claudia award the weekly "Queenie" and "Weenie" titles. Claudia honors the satirical Twitter account "Pooh Crave" for its humorous parody of pop news, while Jackie names "Guy Talk" as the week's weenie for its unseemly behavior.

• Claudia (59:52): "Pooh Crave. They made me chuckle so many times."
• Jackie (63:27): "He culminated the season in a weenie like fashion."

8. Closing Remarks and Passover Wishes

The hosts extend their best wishes to listeners observing Passover, offering humorous and heartfelt advice on navigating dietary restrictions and family dynamics during the holiday.

• Claudia (67:43): "Good luck, everyone."
• Jackie (68:07): "Have some crispy rice. Little sushi."

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Notable Quotes with Timestamps

• Claudia (00:14): "We'll start your day off swirly. It's the Toast."
• Jackie (06:08): "That's literally a dick between your legs."
• Claudia (06:44): "There's no joy in life comparable."
• Jackie (26:33): "Are you ready for our next story?"
• Claudia (32:41): "ALS is like Lou Gehrig's disease."
• Jackie (50:46): "She's thoroughly therapies."
• Claudia (59:52): "Pooh Crave. They made me chuckle so many times."

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Conclusions and Insights

Throughout the episode, Jackie and Claudia blend personal experiences with broader cultural commentary, offering listeners both relatability and entertainment. Their discussion on pregnancy and body-related topics provides candid insights into their lives, while the Fast 5 stories keep the content current and engaging. The final segments reinforce their playful dynamic, leaving listeners with a mix of laughter and thoughtful reflections.

The episode underscores the importance of balancing personal well-being with active participation in cultural and social conversations. By sharing their vulnerabilities and triumphs, Jackie and Claudia foster a sense of community and support among their audience.

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Note: This summary intentionally omits advertisements, sponsor messages, and non-content sections to focus solely on the episode's substantive discussions and narratives.

Transcript

[Claudia Oshry]

Good morning, girlies. It's the Toast.

[Jackie Oshry]

It's Jackson Claude, and we're your host.

[Claudia Oshry]

It's your favorite show.

[Jackie Oshry]

The Fast 5 things you need to know.

[Claudia Oshry]

We'll start your day off swirly. It's the Toast.

[Jackie Oshry]

They sound amazing.

[Claudia Oshry]

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[Jackie Oshry]

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[Claudia Oshry]

Good morning. Happy Friday.

[Jackie Oshry]

Happy Fridays, you guys. We did it. It's very exciting. This one is an earned Friday, don't you find?

[Claudia Oshry]

Yes. I cannot believe that this week was like White Lotus was like a week ago. It was this particular week, you know, exactly. Our merch launch. Like it. I was. Because I was combing through the week to do Queenie and Weenie, and I was like, damn. A lot happened this week. I have worked hard.

[Jackie Oshry]

It's been a week.

[Claudia Oshry]

Correct.

[Jackie Oshry]

I have worked hard, too. Redheads came out. Out yesterday. Finally it's worth.

[Claudia Oshry]

Finally.

[Jackie Oshry]

We're seriously hysterical. I really enjoyed editing it. So take a listen to that. After you listen to this. Whether you read the book or not, it actually doesn't matter because it's a book of short stories.

[Claudia Oshry]

And I was really shook to find out that the redheads chose a Lucy scorebook for next month. Not to spoil it.

[Jackie Oshry]

No, it's not a spoiler. Next month is Margo's choice. And I said, sachi, do your worst. Like, I want classic Satch. I was like, pick whatever, like, romance novel you'd be reading next. It's kind of like what we need. And I know it's what you love to read and don't feel like you have to pick something for the redheads. Like.

[Claudia Oshry]

Like intellectual.

[Jackie Oshry]

We want a snitch's choice. It is Time. Especially after what we read and she provided. I will be reading my first Lucy Score book.

[Claudia Oshry]

Will be your first?

[Jackie Oshry]

My first. I've never read Lucy Score.

[Claudia Oshry]

Wait, you didn't? Things in which we hide from the light. You never read that one. Wait, that's really crazy. That wasn't like, like, such a classic book. Everybody read that book.

[Jackie Oshry]

I missed out on Miss Score. So this will be my first foray into the Scores world.

[Claudia Oshry]

Oh, you're not ready. She's like, really crazy.

[Jackie Oshry]

What's so crazy? Not that I'm gonna read Lucy Square is that we have to talk about.

[Claudia Oshry]

It at a book club.

[Jackie Oshry]

And I feel like it's like, all sex. So, like, what are we going to be talking about?

[Claudia Oshry]

So Lucy's score does a good job of maintaining some level. It's not like the most plot driven. She. There is a story, but sometimes you read, like a romance novel that's seriously. Like, these two people are just talking so that they can have sex. Like, there's no plot whatsoever. And that's where it's like, hard to read romance novels because you're forsaking one for the other. It's like, either it's really good smut or really good plot. It's like, what happened to both? Lucy Squire is definitely up there with doing it. Well, that's exactly the most. Yes. It's not the most compelling book you'll ever read, but, like, it's cute and sweet and she does good world building. She finds, like, random places. I don't know where this one takes place, but she's always, like, taking you to cute little towns.

[Jackie Oshry]

Okay. I love that. And I feel like the redheads community, like, we love a little, like, we need a reprieve 100. And I'm actually really excited to just take a left turn with the sag because nobody does it like the redhead.

[Claudia Oshry]

But then you have to, like, sit and talk about sex with your sister.

[Jackie Oshry]

Right. That's what I'm saying. Will be interesting how we do the book club, you know?

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah. You know what?

[Jackie Oshry]

I'm gonna read books because, by the way, I won't be sitting and talking about sex with my sister.

[Claudia Oshry]

Correct. So.

[Jackie Oshry]

So it'll be interesting.

[Claudia Oshry]

Especially like, your little, little sister.

[Jackie Oshry]

My tiny baby sister. No.

[Claudia Oshry]

Do I look different?

[Jackie Oshry]

Yes.

[Claudia Oshry]

Why?

[Jackie Oshry]

You're wearing a paddle.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yes. Oh, my God. You seriously are, like, so crazy the way, you know my brain. Jackie sent me a gift yesterday. She's been telling me, like, I gotta get on the sanitary napkin game. Like, she's actually been telling Me that since before I got pregnant, she's like, you know, all about bleeding out as opposed to using tampons.

[Jackie Oshry]

One in periods. We. And when. You guys aren't ready for that conversation.

[Claudia Oshry]

No, we are not. We are using tampons, Please.

[Jackie Oshry]

And true enlightenment is realizing that tampons stink.

[Claudia Oshry]

But Jackie talks about them a lot in pregnancy, and she's, like, been kind of begging me, especially because I've been complaining about how, like, underwear and pregnancy is disposable at this point. It's so annoying to have to change so many times a day. Jackie was like, get a pad, get a pad, get a pad. And I was just explaining, like, when I think of pads, I think of, like, my first period and, you know, and, like, the big, thick wings. Like, the big, thick. Like, literally, they look like, like, old cell phones. Like, they're homemade type ones. And Jackie's like, you have to, you know, deconstruct everything you think you know about, because they've made enormous strides. There are really thin ones and whatever. And I was like, which one? She was like, you know what? I'll send you, like, an instacart. Like, I'll get them on target or whatever, and I'll send them to your house. I was like, great. I had forgotten that we had that conversation. And this big bag of snacks shows up at my house, and my. My building's always delivering, like, the wrong things to the wrong people. I'm like, we got someone's Target delivery. And I opened it up. I'm, like, so crazy that this person who ordered snacks, like, has the same exact taste in snacks is me. Baked Lays, Baked Ruffle, Sour Cream, and Cheddar Bagel Bites Kit Kat. Like, so me. Like, that's so crazy. And I was literally about to put it back outside, and then I saw the pads. I'm like, wait, this is for me. This is my plate, literally. And Jackie was just being, like, so sweet. It was her way of, like, coercing me into really believing the. The. The magic of pads. So I'm wearing a pad today. I've only been wearing it for, like, an hour. It's uncomfortable. Like, it's just like, this little. It's like a dick between your legs. Like, I feel like a man. Like, it's just this big thing. No, tampons are. Oh, tampons I never know I'm wearing.

[Jackie Oshry]

That's literally a dick between your legs.

[Claudia Oshry]

Okay. No, that tampon is like a dick in your vagina. Yeah, but a pad is like, a dick hanging between Your legs.

[Jackie Oshry]

Well, let me know how it goes. Today. I asked Claudia to do it for a day and block it.

[Claudia Oshry]

She's. We're not doing that.

[Jackie Oshry]

Oh, my God. It was a joke.

[Claudia Oshry]

Like, no, but I said what I will do. What I will do is when I'm done with it, I will peel it off and stick it to the frame.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah. Because it's nice to have, like, a fresh nether region every time you go to the bathroom or every two. Like, you know how it is when you're pregnant. There's a lot going on. And, like, it's. You don't even. It's not. It shouldn't be a concern of yours. And I actually fell into that lifestyle. Necessity was the mother of invention because of my circlage surgery. And I was on progesterone, which, if you've been vaginal, progesterone, like, you know, So I started wearing pads. And then even when I didn't need anymore, I was like, I like, this feels like a fresh pair of undies. Friendies. You love friendies.

[Claudia Oshry]

I do love. Like, there's actually no greater joy in life than, like, either feeling gross or being out all day. You take a shower, and you put on a friendy. Like, a fresh undie. Especially if it's like a granny panty. There's. There's no joy in life comparable. I agree.

[Jackie Oshry]

I think you're gonna like the diaper phase of things, too.

[Claudia Oshry]

I'll keep you posted. You guys know I will.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah. But keep me posted. Thank you for trying something new, even if you don't like it. Like, I appreciate you listening to your.

[Claudia Oshry]

Big sister and being open.

[Jackie Oshry]

Finally.

[Claudia Oshry]

Finally.

[Jackie Oshry]

So let's see how it goes. But you look beautiful with your pad on.

[Claudia Oshry]

Thank you so much.

[Jackie Oshry]

Your eyes.

[Claudia Oshry]

I think you might. You might be seeing the pad bringing out my eyes or. I did do something also really crazy yesterday that might have shifted the way that I look.

[Jackie Oshry]

Share.

[Claudia Oshry]

I went to acupuncture. Yeah.

[Jackie Oshry]

And was it everything everyone says?

[Claudia Oshry]

No. Like, nobody told you? Like, to prepare for being so bored.

[Jackie Oshry]

I should have said Van's copy of the Redheads.

[Claudia Oshry]

Totally. And people were like. So I. I posted an Instagram story from acupuncture. Just being like, I'm so bored. And everyone was like, you have to put your phone away. Like, it completely defeats the purpose. Like, part of the treatment is, like, the mindfulness and, like, really committing to just, like, opening up your body to receive the moxibustion or whatever. So I'm, like, thinking, now I wasted my time you know, and I have two appointments next week, so I will go in, like, more mindful. You lot of people listen to podcasts. They read. So I'll come a little bit more prepared.

[Jackie Oshry]

Maybe a playlist.

[Claudia Oshry]

Well, she was like, can I put on music for you? And I was like, yeah. And I was gonna say, like, Taylor Swift. She was like, nature sounds okay. And I was like, oh, yeah, that's perfect.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah. Maybe not Taylor Swift, but I'm sure we could think of an artist.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah, No, I need to bring my AirPods. I brought my phone into.

[Jackie Oshry]

You need Lewis Capaldi.

[Claudia Oshry]

I just did something. It was like 45 minutes.

[Jackie Oshry]

We'll turn your baby.

[Claudia Oshry]

We better. We literally better. Me and my $200 an hour acupuncture. Like, the. If this baby doesn't turn, he's going to owe me money. The amount of money I'm spending on, like, this nonsense, it better fudgeing work.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah, it's all the money you're saving on a crib.

[Claudia Oshry]

No, literally, Jackie, the baby is going to come out and I'm going to have an iPad. Like, would you like to tip 10, 15, 20%?

[Jackie Oshry]

Whoa, Jers, that's a wrong attitude.

[Claudia Oshry]

No, I know, I know. I'm actually, like, having, like, different. I'm on a roller coaster of emotions when it comes to the breach.

[Jackie Oshry]

Baby, you're lying.

[Claudia Oshry]

No, when it comes to this topic in particular. Like, some days I'm like, so beat down about it. Like, last night I was so upset. And then today I'm like, you know what? Whatever will be, will be.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah, Trust that.

[Claudia Oshry]

And whatever it will be, will be.

[Jackie Oshry]

And you have a lot of time still. And it happens in a second, right? In an instant, right?

[Claudia Oshry]

No, it doesn't, actually. So I keep asking people. No one's been able to give me a straight answer. Like, when your baby flips, does he literally do a somersault and it's over? Will I feel it? So the acupuncturist said, and it was the best explanation that I've heard so far, so I choose to believe her. She's like, it's very gradual, so any movements are good. Like, he's not like that mobile. He can't do a full flip. Like, you're slowly turning and, like, making the belly. Yeah. So any movement is good. And he was moving a lot during acupuncture. So she said, babies really like acupuncture. And she'd lie about that either. So I'm like a believer. I'm not super skeptic.

[Jackie Oshry]

Okay, Keep Us posted.

[Claudia Oshry]

So that's something that happened yesterday. Something that happened. Today is our last day to eat bread. I wanted to remind you because, you know, a lot of the stacks that you gave me were humates. I have to just, like, house them today.

[Jackie Oshry]

What about the chips?

[Claudia Oshry]

They're potato. Yeah, but like the Kit Kats.

[Jackie Oshry]

Wafer.

[Claudia Oshry]

Wafer rats, and technically the popcorn. Popcorn.

[Jackie Oshry]

I would eat pop. I'm not strict about Passover. Like, maybe I should be more ashamed, but I don't know why. Like, a lot of times, like, I feel guilt about, you know, certain things in Judaism, and that compels me to follow it, no matter, you know, like, even if I don't want to.

[Claudia Oshry]

Guilt is a powerful emotion.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah. Yeah. And I'm very driven by guilt and Passover. First, I'll, you know, I'm not going to eat a bread. That's rude.

[Claudia Oshry]

You're not particularly moved by it?

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah, I. I'm not super strict with it. I would 100 eat popcorn. Maybe not on the first day.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah, right. Of course the rules change with each day that passes.

[Jackie Oshry]

It's true. But, you know, and I also have those matzas that I'm eyeing in my cupboard, so I'm actually not dreading Passover.

[Claudia Oshry]

But just make sure to, like, go hard today in the paint.

[Jackie Oshry]

That's true. I should have made a pargy loaf. I don't know why, because Passover, I knew it was this week. I was like, oh, you know, put the starter away. I threw away my starter because I have, like, discard in the fridge.

[Claudia Oshry]

No.

[Jackie Oshry]

And I should have made one more pargie loaf, but I guess it takes me, like, a few days to eat it, so I would have had to, like, throw. Throw away a lot of loaf.

[Claudia Oshry]

No, today is, like, this week in particular. And today is the day, like, we're going hard.

[Jackie Oshry]

Okay, that's a good point. To go out to dinner tonight, but not in a hamate sort of way. I was gonna get steak, which I could do anytime.

[Claudia Oshry]

You should think about things. Yeah.

[Jackie Oshry]

Maybe pivot to an Italian restaurant.

[Claudia Oshry]

It's also Coachella weekend.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yay.

[Claudia Oshry]

I actually am really looking forward to being a content consumer. I don't know if, you know, like, Alex, Earl and her sister took a private jet and they're, like, staying in this insane mansion. I don't know if it's a brand partnership yet. It's a good question. She's pretty good about uploading her TikTok to reels, but, you know, the algorithm will serve you in a few days. Make sure. If you're looking for things to watch this weekend, like, check her out. I'm having the best time. I need her to post more content. Her and her sister are like, seriously my favorite content creators right now, and they're just, like, crushing it. So, like, yeah, take that, private jet.

[Jackie Oshry]

Have you decided who's the Jackson, who's the Claude yet?

[Claudia Oshry]

No. I was watching their vlog this morning, actually, and I'm sure we have it as a story that they're on the COVID of Folks Turkey. So digital. Okay. I'm totally getting. I was watching story, so if you want, I'm trying to get their personalities from the vlog behind the scenes.

[Jackie Oshry]

And how did that.

[Claudia Oshry]

Where they filmed it, and it was good. I feel like I still don't really know. Maybe I'm just. Maybe I don't see myself in either of them. Or you.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah, we'll have to dig deeper. Do you know what I did last night? Something I said I was gonna do on my content plate. Something I watched.

[Claudia Oshry]

Nobody wants us, Paul.

[Jackie Oshry]

American.

[Claudia Oshry]

Oh, my God. Of all the things for you to cross over your list, we didn't need you to watch that.

[Jackie Oshry]

You did Claudia. It's so amazing. Really. I watched two episodes. I think there might be three so far because I know, like, the next one's the gender reveal. Oh, my God. I was crying. I was crying when Nina crying tears. When Nina found out she was pregnant and she's sharing it with Logan. It was.

[Claudia Oshry]

Oh.

[Jackie Oshry]

And then he FaceTimed his mom. Oh, my God. And, like, she has these, like, two sons, and they're such, like, big dope stars, probably at one point, that you would never be a grandma.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah, for sure.

[Jackie Oshry]

Oh, my God. She just, like, was speechless. It was so cute. I like the show so much. It's so real. The first episode is all about pitching the show. It's like, what they filmed. It's all about the show. They have a family meeting, talking about if they should have a reality show. Nina doesn't want to do the show because she wants to get pregnant, and she doesn't want. She wants to be relaxed in her pregnancy.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah.

[Jackie Oshry]

And I also thought it was because she was, like, you know, highbrow and, like, you know, everything she's done is, like, so legit in traditional media and, like, you know.

[Claudia Oshry]

Oh, that's so funny. I don't see her that way. Oh, my God.

[Jackie Oshry]

I so see her that way. Is, like, so a list so cool. Like, untouchable. And she's so not what you would think. She Is like, in the same way. Alexi is like so sweet with a face like that. Like, same with the act. Oh, my God, she's laughing all the time. Everything Logan says, she can't stop laughing. Like, crying, laughing. She's so down to earth. So is Jake's girlfriend now fiance?

[Claudia Oshry]

Yes. She's the speed skater. She's like an Olympic speed skater. Jules something.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yada. It's Jada, but oh, my God.

[Claudia Oshry]

I follow her on social media. I've never heard her name said out loud.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yada, she's great too. And Nina eventually does get on board for the show, but it's really funny. They're very real and their family is just like, so crazy. And like, Nina actor's just in the middle of it. Like, she dated Leo. She like, it's just crazy, I guess.

[Claudia Oshry]

Like she did daily. Oh, that's really crazy.

[Jackie Oshry]

But they're. They're so in love. Same with Jake and Yada. Like, it's so amazing how they talk about each other. The show is so. I love so many aspects of the show because I think they're fascinating and they're so impressive and they, like, make money.

[Claudia Oshry]

They are very interesting and they just like, they're perfect for a reality show.

[Jackie Oshry]

He's just like in the car trading crypto and made $2 million in the car ride. Like, they money. It's really enjoyable.

[Claudia Oshry]

So jealous.

[Jackie Oshry]

However, what's funny is like their bread and butter and the things that they got famous for and like, what they do, their content is so. Not for me.

[Claudia Oshry]

Like, no, not at all.

[Jackie Oshry]

When they're doing like their Paul Brothers thing, like the pranking and like, you know, Logan flies a drone.

[Claudia Oshry]

Do they still do that?

[Jackie Oshry]

Like, a little bit. Because that's who they are as brothers.

[Claudia Oshry]

They're just like, on what I'm saying, like, on what content? Where do they put it?

[Jackie Oshry]

Sometimes they're doing content, but also just on the show. So like, they're at like a lake house and Yada and Jake are on a canoe in the lake and Logan flies a drone over them. Is like swatting at them. And Jake takes an ore and like, like, bashes it into the water. And the drone is still working in the water. They're watching the fish and then a bunch. They also each live with like 20 guys, which is so crazy. Which is so crazy. I don't think Logan does because Nina lives with him.

[Claudia Oshry]

Right.

[Jackie Oshry]

But Jake does because yet and him are still long distance because she's training for the Olympics. All these they get like search and rescue. They're all in the water looking for the drone. Like, it's just like, it's so male humor.

[Claudia Oshry]

Ye. It's very. It's very male focused.

[Jackie Oshry]

So, like, I'm not their target demo, but I really, really like the show. And there's a lot of love, but there's also like, a lot of craziness. Like, the way they have such a love hate relationship.

[Claudia Oshry]

It's really the two of them.

[Jackie Oshry]

The two of them. And I guess in the past, like, when they were in la, it was really.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yes. There was very bad.

[Jackie Oshry]

Alyssa Violet.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yes, exactly.

[Jackie Oshry]

I didn't know about this.

[Claudia Oshry]

I thought it was all, like, staged for YouTube, but it was very real.

[Jackie Oshry]

Like, it started off as that and then it bled into real life because how can you not take offense at these things?

[Claudia Oshry]

Right?

[Jackie Oshry]

And they just, like, hated each other and now they have a really great relationship, but they still really get under each other's skin. Like, Logan, like, just is constantly putting Jake down just because he thinks he's a truth sayer. Like, he's like, I'm not just going to. Like, even on his podcast, he was.

[Claudia Oshry]

Like, kind of like tough love. He.

[Jackie Oshry]

On his podcast, he was joking about Jake fighting Mike Tyson. Like, you know, who are you going to fight? Ex mama. Like, and Jake calls me. He's like, you're delegitimizing the fighter. Like, we need people to watch.

[Claudia Oshry]

Right? You could say that to Jake's face and, like, around friends, but not publicly.

[Jackie Oshry]

So, like, like, they're getting. They're so much better in terms of, like, having a public brotherhood, but they really insult each other and hurt each other's feelings. It's painful to watch.

[Claudia Oshry]

I think that's also brother tings. Like, we're not used to those dynamics because we try to be sensitive to each other's. Like, we're girls insecurities.

[Jackie Oshry]

But, like, we just. We would just never have a fight in the public. Like that.

[Claudia Oshry]

Like, no, that also is like a true. Like, only sociopaths do that.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah. But maybe that's why they're as successful as they are.

[Claudia Oshry]

No, that's. I will never be famous. That's why we'll seriously never be true successful people.

[Jackie Oshry]

But it's really.

[Claudia Oshry]

You're a dirty whore.

[Jackie Oshry]

It's really, really. I'm not going to respond to that. It's really good. I would really recommend it. They're right for a reality show. They're so fascinating and, like, there's just so many. Like, I can't get over Nina. I cannot get over I know.

[Claudia Oshry]

I'm glad that you were able to accomplish something that you set out to do. That's huge. Like.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah. And I'm going to keep watching for their gender reveal. They have a big fight and, like, a fake fight in the backyard, like a WWE match with one's pink and one's blue of, like, two hired wrestlers. And then whoever is going to win, that's the gender.

[Claudia Oshry]

Right. Like, they're so very funny. That's, like, so extravagant.

[Jackie Oshry]

They're so extravagant.

[Claudia Oshry]

They are something that I want to check off my list to do today, especially since it's before Passover. I don't know if you saw that the Kardashians did a collab with crumble cookie.

[Jackie Oshry]

I did.

[Claudia Oshry]

Where, like, crumble has, like, six new cookies. They release every week, like, new flavors. And this week, it's. It's six Kardashian cookies. Kylie, Kendall, Khloe, Kris, Kim, and Kourtney all did their own flavors. I've seen everyone talking about on social media, like, I really want to try it. I keep, like, wanting to try crumbl. I haven't. I've actually had a bite of, like, a crumble cookie, but I've never, like, you know, done the whole experience where you, like, try all six of the week. And I feel like this is my week.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah. It looks a little nauseating.

[Claudia Oshry]

Well, it's very personal cookie flavors. And Courtney's getting a lot of shit for doing a flourless chocolate cake. Like, they also. They do cookies, but some of their cookies are also, like, cakes. They're mini cakes, but I don't know.

[Jackie Oshry]

Chris's is a cake, like, after you're in your sugar coma. From Kylie's sprinkle cookie Frosted topped sprinkle cookie.

[Claudia Oshry]

You know, that that's the one that I want.

[Jackie Oshry]

Oh, my God. That. I'm sure this gives Courtney a heart attack. Like, the dyes in that thing.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah.

[Jackie Oshry]

And, you know, they're not, like, natural flavors. There's. It's Red 40.

[Claudia Oshry]

Correct.

[Jackie Oshry]

There's Red 40 in that box, and Courtney has to spit next to it.

[Claudia Oshry]

The Internet has pretty much declared Kendall's as the best. It's like a chocolate chip chocolate cookie dough.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yummy. Also, I know Chloe did cookies and cream. Everything Chloe does is just, like, good. You know, her house. She did a skillet good. Like, she just has good, normal taste.

[Claudia Oshry]

Agreed. She's a very normal person.

[Jackie Oshry]

Kim did snickerdoodle.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah. Kim's was really basic snickerdoodle. Okay. Chris's was a. I'VE seen it. It's highly contested. It's either people's favorite or least favorite.

[Jackie Oshry]

It's Adam Gotchalk's favorite is it's a.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yellow cake chocolate frosting, which is like a unique combo. Yellow cake chocolate frosting.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah, but. But basic and good.

[Claudia Oshry]

Oh, you know what? Actually, you know what?

[Jackie Oshry]

Like, Courtney couldn't. I'm glad Courtney did the flowerless one that will sit there because it makes the whole thing feel really authentic. Because if you agreed something like not then we just make. Oh, they'll. They're just slapping their name on it.

[Claudia Oshry]

It was like when she worked with Boohoo.

[Jackie Oshry]

Like, she didn't bring the flavor to the box, but brought. She brought the authenticity.

[Claudia Oshry]

The authenticity.

[Jackie Oshry]

And I think the box needs that in addition to everything else.

[Claudia Oshry]

One good thing about my acupuncture is that it's right by a place that serves gray frozen yogurt. Now, I don't want to say the name because it's like a New York institution. And they're also a family owned business and I really like them. I mean, their ice cream is very good. I usually get carob chips when I go to this particular place. I don't know why, but I got sprinkles and I just want to say their sprinkles. It was like literally having ice cream with gravel. I was like crunching so hard it ruined my whole day.

[Jackie Oshry]

I feel like sprinkles should be something that you, like, give up.

[Claudia Oshry]

Why? Are they cancerous?

[Jackie Oshry]

No, no, of course. Like, they have dyes in them, which like most things do. I don't know. I just have a negative association. They're just like little sugar pellets. Like, they're just so stupid and they taste like nothing.

[Claudia Oshry]

Oh, you're so wrong for that.

[Jackie Oshry]

I just have I wrong for that. I have beef between what is your.

[Claudia Oshry]

Go to ice cream? Frozen yogurt topping.

[Jackie Oshry]

Oh, like cookies and cream with Oreo will always slap.

[Claudia Oshry]

Oreo is like. Is pretty much. You know what I've been doing a lot of. I love a Heath bar in that vein. I've actually been doing a lot. At 40 carats, they have Reese's cups, like, chopped up. That's delicious. That's like when you're being really fat.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah. And I mean, if you're getting the ice cream, like be fat, you know, it's frozen yogurt.

[Claudia Oshry]

Like, you can actually do it in a healthy way.

[Jackie Oshry]

You could. But why would you.

[Claudia Oshry]

I mean, I wouldn't. I know that there are. I know people who get like banana slices, like are you okay?

[Jackie Oshry]

Sick individuals. And then Reese's Pieces and M M's again, like there should be no M M's on ice cream. I don't agree. I know we disagree, but the texture is wrong.

[Claudia Oshry]

It's. It's not an ideal texture scenario. I will agree give you on that, but once you can get past that, especially if you do mini M M's, it's really a pargy crunchy treat.

[Jackie Oshry]

No, it's like they slide on your teeth.

[Claudia Oshry]

You know what? Don't sleep on most places don't have it. Except Tasty Delight does. Which is why I'm familiar. We need more frozen yogurt places to carry peanut butter chips. They look like chocolate chips, but they're made of peanut butter. They a nice good French vanilla with a peanut butter chip topping is so delicious.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yummy, yummy, yummy, yummy.

[Claudia Oshry]

Check it out. Highly recommend. 40 carats. Doesn't have that. They need to work. They're slipping. We caught them slipping.

[Jackie Oshry]

We got them slipping. Well, now it is time for the Fast 5 stories that you need to know. And I feel as though you need to know them.

[Claudia Oshry]

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[Jackie Oshry]

Thank you, Turd space.

[Claudia Oshry]

I thought you were gonna say turd main. I keep trying to, like, guess what you're gonna say. Like I said domain and you said, like, turd main.

[Jackie Oshry]

You know, I do need a domain for my turd [e-mail] I think. So what am I selling? What kind of business we in?

[Claudia Oshry]

I mean, the cage? Old question. Yeah, only you can answer that.

[Jackie Oshry]

Turd mains.

[Claudia Oshry]

Tired mains. I like that.

[Jackie Oshry]

Maybe it's like, wigs that look like your hair.

[Claudia Oshry]

Oh, I love that. It's actually a good idea. You would love it. You. You would love it.

[Jackie Oshry]

Okay, our first story.

[Claudia Oshry]

Oh, wait, your camera's still working. I know you're having, like, some camera troubles. Like, just I want you to be aware. Okay, cool.

[Jackie Oshry]

Our first story since we dipped into it. Alex and Ashton Earl are all smiles on the COVID of Vogue Turkey on National Siblings Day, which feels like a coincidence. Chargy one.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah. I was shocked when I saw this. Now people on the Internet are so quick to be like, it's Vogue Turkey and it's the digital cover. Where are you? In your mom's basement? Like, eat my ass. Like, I thought this was so cool.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah.

[Claudia Oshry]

You can't get to the COVID of Vogue America without, you know, stepping stones. And this is still huge. They looked so cute. I love that they did it together passing through Turkey. Yeah. I do wonder if it was like, they reached out to Alex and she wanted to have her sister on because it was really shocking that it was the both of them.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah. Like, are the editors at Turkey big fans of the podcast Hot Mess? It's true.

[Claudia Oshry]

I.

[Jackie Oshry]

And do they have to go to Turkey to shoot this? Where?

[Claudia Oshry]

No, I watched the vlog. It was in Miami.

[Jackie Oshry]

Okay. Yeah.

[Claudia Oshry]

And they wanted it to look like Turkey. So they're on this, like, turn railroad.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah.

[Claudia Oshry]

And then she has to get up. She has to get up because the bright line comes.

[Jackie Oshry]

That is not indigenous to Turkey.

[Claudia Oshry]

No. I do often wonder about like, those types of international.

[Jackie Oshry]

Like, Harper's covers.

[Claudia Oshry]

Right. Do you travel? I actually don't think you do if it's a part of, like, the Conde Nast bubble. Like, they have teams here.

[Jackie Oshry]

Wait, I'm cracking up. You really think they wanted it to look like Turkey? Because, like, it is a random sort of.

[Claudia Oshry]

I don't think it didn't look like Turkey, but I've also never been.

[Jackie Oshry]

No, I guess. But, like, the fact that I even thought, oh, was this in Turkey? Like, I think mission accomplished, right?

[Claudia Oshry]

Because it was literally in Florida.

[Jackie Oshry]

But, like, if they. If they're shooting, they didn't want us to think it was Miami because they would have done, like, more iconic beach, not this, like, fence or the park bench.

[Claudia Oshry]

I don't know if they're, like, if Turkey is very fancy, but I actually think it's more, like, gilded. It's actually quite probably a little bit more similar to Miami than we would think.

[Jackie Oshry]

Oh, yeah, there's definitely, like, gilded. It depends, but I feel like there's definitely, like, farmland and countryside.

[Claudia Oshry]

Well, there's farmland and countryside in every country.

[Jackie Oshry]

I'd love to learn more about the topography of Turkey. And even if the girls didn't go, maybe they could tell us what does it mean?

[Claudia Oshry]

Oh, yeah.

[Jackie Oshry]

To be representing Turkey in this way.

[Claudia Oshry]

So I do feel like there's been, like, a visible shift in Alex's content to being, like, much more family focused. Even when she launched her vlog, it was like our Earl family trip to spring break in Universal Studios, and now, like, bringing her sister in on the podcast and then bringing her sister in on the vocab or. And a lot of her vlogs, I feel like that's been an intentional shift, and I think it's a great idea. And now they're kind of doing everything together.

[Jackie Oshry]

Do you think it's in service of the Earl Girls reality show?

[Claudia Oshry]

I think it's in service of they understand they're better off together than, like, it being the Alex show because, you know, you could there. Anyone can be, like, a popular influencer, but when you have, like, that family, it's like the Kardashian thing. Like, it's. It's magic when you have it. And so I think that they're seeing that. And their stepmom has had a lot of success on social media. She has a. A lot of followers on Tick Tock, so they're all sort of doing their own thing. And there is this, like, very organic, authentic interest in their family because they are very wealthy. The stepmom and the dad have this very interesting sort of scandalous story. Everyone's attractive, everyone's good looking. The kids who are like the blended kids, the younger kids are very cute and like, they love Tick Tock and they're always doing crumble cookie reviews. Like, it's. They're kind of made for it. So I think that they're really leaning into it now. And I think also the dad managing her and Ashton as of like last year probably had a lot to do with that too. And maybe that's why they didn't want to be on the podcast anymore. But I've seen. I feel like I'm seeing this shift and I think it's actually really good.

[Jackie Oshry]

I think so too. I love family content.

[Claudia Oshry]

Me too. Do you think you could still be fun and do you think she goes.

[Jackie Oshry]

To the next Paul Brothers?

[Claudia Oshry]

Like, kind of. Yeah. Right. For the swirlies. I could see that.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah. I'm, I'm. I'm down. I like everything that she's doing. These pictures are really beautiful and it just highlights how they like, this should. It wouldn't be right now, but, like, if this were Vogue America, it would be an amazing cover.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah, I guess. Like, I don't think if Vogue America does digital covers, but if they did, like, this would be a great one.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah, I mean, they would never, like, put Alex Earl on at the current junction, but, like, if they did, it would be amazing. Like, sometimes you see, you know, Harper's bizarre Vietnam and you're not like, oh, that should be a Vogue cover. But, like, sometimes we see British Vogue, we're like, that. That just makes American Vogue look bad. I feel like this looks really good for them and I can see them on the COVID of Vogue.

[Claudia Oshry]

I also feel like this doesn't put them completely out of the running. At least Alex to be at the Met Gala.

[Jackie Oshry]

At least the Turkish Met gala.

[Claudia Oshry]

No, but you know what I mean. Like, Vogue Turkey. Every. Like, you can clown on it as much as you want. Not you. I'm saying, like, I see people on the Internet. It is a part of Kanye Nast proper. No, I'm not saying you.

[Jackie Oshry]

I'm saying people are. It's just like, we just have to say, like, Turkey and it's just funny.

[Claudia Oshry]

But it's, it's a foot in the door of Conde Nast. Like, it's very real. Some. There are some, like, unaffiliated Vogues. Like, you can tell, like, they're like, spun out on their own. Vogue Turkey, like, is. Is legit and so I do feel like we will see Alex Earl at the Met Gala. Why wouldn't we? They always dip into very small amounts of influencers and especially TikTok. And she's really that girl. She is.

[Jackie Oshry]

I said that she should be there and she should be there.

[Claudia Oshry]

Her and Nara Smith, I think will be there.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah.

[Claudia Oshry]

Representing the digital swirlies and I feel represented.

[Jackie Oshry]

I love that. Well, congrats to the girlies. The pics are beautiful.

[Claudia Oshry]

So proud.

[Jackie Oshry]

I'm happy for Vogue Turkey.

[Claudia Oshry]

They had a great idea, 1,000%, like, flawless execution. We love to see it start to finish.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah. Are you ready for our next story? Some sad news because Eric Dane has announced that he has been diagnosed with ALS and he's actually going to begin filming Euphoria season three. So Eric Dean is already headed back to work after revealing his ALS diagnosis. He will begin filming season three of Euphoria on Monday, just four days after announcing he has the neurodegenerative disease which causes loss of muscle control over time. He said, I feel fortunate that I'm able to continue working and I'm looking forward to returning to the set of Euphoria next week.

[Claudia Oshry]

I mean, so sad. ALS is like Lou Gehrig's disease for those who don't know. And it's just like, over time, it can take years. Like, your body just completely decomposes and, like, stops working. Use your motor skills, your ability to talk, and it's really hard. Obviously, I follow Brooke on Tick Tock who has als, and she was on our show too. So I feel like I actually know a lot about it from her. And it's great that, like, he's still at the stage where he can continue to work and he should. And honestly, Euphoria being pushed back for as long as it was was probably really annoying for him.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah.

[Claudia Oshry]

Time isn't on his side, but this is so sad.

[Jackie Oshry]

So sad. And I saw he was getting divorced. Rebecca, Gay, hard, who was his wife, but they put their divorce on pause.

[Claudia Oshry]

Oh, have they?

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah.

[Claudia Oshry]

Oh, interesting. I didn't know that he was getting divorced. He's very handsome.

[Jackie Oshry]

He is very handsome.

[Claudia Oshry]

Kind of reminds me a little bit of, like, what Bruce Willis is going through. Like, you could be the most famous person in the world on the top show, but it's like a disease, like, that comes and it just, like, nobody cares that you're famous. Like, it's just. It comes for everyone. What does he have? He has dementia, right?

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah. Really sad.

[Jackie Oshry]

Really sad. So this is very sad news.

[Claudia Oshry]

And people love Eric Dane. Because he's from Grey's Anatomy.

[Jackie Oshry]

So he's like, a Steamy. Is he McCimi and Patrick's McDreamy.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, you're right. And they're both not on the show anymore.

[Jackie Oshry]

I don't know about Patrick, but I. I saw this as former Grey's Anatomy, so.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah, no, I don't think he's.

[Jackie Oshry]

Dreamy's not on.

[Claudia Oshry]

Got it. So he means a lot to a lot of people.

[Jackie Oshry]

Steamy.

[Claudia Oshry]

Steam is not on. But Dreamy made a cameo, like, two years ago. Everyone was talking about it. Do you remember that? It was a dream sequence.

[Jackie Oshry]

It was a dreamy sequence.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yes. A McDreamy sequence.

[Jackie Oshry]

No, I don't remember that. I'm shocked that you.

[Claudia Oshry]

Oh, you don't remember everyone talking about it. I do.

[Jackie Oshry]

No, I'm shocked that you do.

[Claudia Oshry]

Really. It was, like, the biggest thing. It's like, my job.

[Jackie Oshry]

You do not remember what you said about Pig three weeks ago.

[Claudia Oshry]

Because Peppa Pig is inconsequential. That's the point. Because that's the point I'm trying to make is disgusting. Yeah, I said it like that. I felt the intonation, too. Because Peppa Pig is disgusting. No, I do remember. I remember when he made his cameo, it was, like, a really big deal. Yeah, yeah. No, and by the way, I, like, watch the clip yesterday. Like, now it's. I'm remembering everything.

[Jackie Oshry]

And at least you got to experience it, like, as if you weren't the person who said it.

[Claudia Oshry]

Like, a viewer.

[Jackie Oshry]

And you thought that girl was funny.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah, she was a little fat. No kidding. You listen. You're not gonna stop me.

[Jackie Oshry]

I'm not engaging.

[Claudia Oshry]

Okay. Disengage.

[Jackie Oshry]

Disengaging. So Euphoria, season three. Are you gonna watch?

[Claudia Oshry]

I don't know. I think that when it was on, I felt a little old to be watching it now. And now they've taken so much time. I'm 30. Although it is. I believe I read that the next season, they jump forward five years.

[Jackie Oshry]

Okay.

[Claudia Oshry]

Which kind of sucks, because they left us in the craziest cliffhanger. Like, seriously, Rue. Is that her name? Rue? Yeah. Which is Zendaya's character, like, made one of the worst decisions. Like her. Like, it cost her her life. And then you never found out what happened. And now I hear that they're jumping forward five years. So I feel like maybe, like, Rue goes to jail for five years, and now she's getting out. That's just, like, a feeling I have given what happened at the end of season two. So maybe I'm not too old to be watching it. Also, I have to say, if they are skimming, because it's been five years, like, yeah, maybe I'm right on time.

[Jackie Oshry]

Right. Okay.

[Claudia Oshry]

But I'm not, like, counting down the minutes. I'll have to see, like, where I'm at in my life to have a lot of free time.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah.

[Claudia Oshry]

When euphoria comes out, or am I just, like.

[Jackie Oshry]

Is that the vibe that you're looking for?

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah. The show used to give me the worst time anxiety. Oh, my God.

[Jackie Oshry]

You're not gonna be watching shows like that.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah. That contribute, like, poorly to my mental health. Yeah.

[Jackie Oshry]

Are you ready for our next story? Speaking of. Speaking of, Justin Bieber has quit Drew House, his fashion brand, on the heels of a confrontation with the paparazzi. Now Page Six is calling it a bizarre paparazzi meltdown. However, that feels very subjective.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah. When I saw that, I was like, oh, what's he doing? And he was just, like, yelling. And honestly, spitting facts at paparazzi was just, like, a classic celebrity having had enough of the paparazzi for a moment. Moment.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah. But, like, his shirt was half on. And usually when celebrities are yelling at paparazzi, like, they're not headed towards a good place, you know, it's always, like, one step before the haircut.

[Claudia Oshry]

Oh, that's really funny. I actually don't agree with that.

[Jackie Oshry]

Why? Who yells at them? Britney Spears and the umbrella and Kanye and Alec Baldwin and Justin Bieber in, you know, after, like, it's hard with Justin Bieber because I feel like he posts stuff that's, like, seriously so concerning. Right?

[Claudia Oshry]

Like, yes, yes.

[Jackie Oshry]

A friend of mine posted that, like, I would call.

[Claudia Oshry]

I would call them up, and I.

[Jackie Oshry]

Would say, like, you might want to take a look at this.

[Claudia Oshry]

Right.

[Jackie Oshry]

But then he, like, goes on and everything's fine, and him and Haley, and then just yesterday, they're spotted in Palm Springs. They're going to Coachella. Like, everything.

[Claudia Oshry]

I know. I know. I, for one, I'm, like, not worried about Justin Bieber, even though, like, you said, his digital footprint is, you know, a little worrisome. And yes, he did, like, yell at photographers, but honestly, I feel like photographers need to be yelled at, and I didn't find that concerning. No, I feel like I can think of a couple of celebrity encounters where they just have, like, had enough with the paparazzi. Like, Hillary Duff, when she was being, like, literally followed and she had her son, and she was like, you just leave me alone. Like, I don't know. I Feel like that's not an indicator of, like, a. Like a psychosis, you know, But. And again, he looks crazy. I know. I. I just. I. I don't. I feel like he's fine. And I also feel like the Drew House thing has nothing to do with the paparazzi thing. Do you know what I mean?

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah. So he posted on his Instagram, the. He posted a screenshot of Drew House, which was like, this brand that he was his brand. He's always wearing, like, Drew House clothes, smiley face.

[Claudia Oshry]

It's like merch.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah. He said, I just amieber. I'm no longer involved in this brand. Drew House doesn't represent me or my family or life. If you're rocking with me the human Justin Bieber, don't waste your money on Drew House.

[Claudia Oshry]

Well, I think that's important for his fans to know. Like, they might be spending money and it's not his thing anymore, but what happened? Because it was literally his thing.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah. Didn't he invent it?

[Claudia Oshry]

So, yeah.

[Jackie Oshry]

What happens there? I. Yeah. I feel like there are so many red flags, and usually I ignore them, especially when it comes to, like, their relationship. Like.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yep.

[Jackie Oshry]

I'm like, look, you can't tell them nothing. But I don't know why. Like, this. This recent spell, it's been, like, a few weeks, and I'm a little nervous.

[Claudia Oshry]

I know. But it's like nothing ever happens.

[Jackie Oshry]

I know. They're literally once again right now.

[Claudia Oshry]

There's a flare up, right? He's unfollowing her. He's mental health. He's this, he's that. They have a baby. They're fine. Like, I don't know. I'm just not worried about them.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yesterday, walking hand in hand, looking so cute.

[Claudia Oshry]

I think maybe he's, like, just eclectic and weird and famous and rich. Like, I don't know.

[Jackie Oshry]

And, yeah, I don't know.

[Claudia Oshry]

I, like, I care more about Haley, and I think Haley has a really good head on her shoulders. Like, I don't think she, like, parties. I think she's just, like, really grounded in being a wife and a mom and a business owner. And she seems fine to me.

[Jackie Oshry]

So what can a person put up with?

[Claudia Oshry]

No, I know everyone has their limit. Like, it's every week.

[Jackie Oshry]

I'm sure her normal is so different from what anybody else would consider.

[Claudia Oshry]

I mean, it was literally this week we were talking about Francesca Farago getting an email from an agency who's, like, paying to have tick tocks made about Haley Bieber in a negative way in her life.

[Jackie Oshry]

I'M saying, like, her normal with Justin, I'm sure it doesn't look like, you know.

[Claudia Oshry]

Do you feel like they are under a bigger microscope? Do you feel like they're under a bigger microscope? Like, we critique their social media, their outfits, everything, because of, like, the. The Haley drama. Like, because I feel like they're not separate. Yeah, I feel like they're not separate issues. I. Like, we talk about them as a couple more. And yeah, they put up, like, weird things that everybody does.

[Jackie Oshry]

So maybe for others, but really for me, like, I'm seeing these two things as separate.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah. Like, but also so much of it is lies. Like, Right. How many times a year do we. Haley unfollows Justin and it all ends up being fake. No.

[Jackie Oshry]

And, like, the lyrics about, like, the phone calls on the wedding day of Justin and there was a story like.

[Claudia Oshry]

Two weeks ago of a girl who made a tick tock being like, look, Haley Bieber liked my anti Selena video and it went so viral and it was fake. She made it up. Yeah.

[Jackie Oshry]

No, none of that really affects how I see them. Like, and even the lyrics from this new album that came out that make it seem like Justin's in obviously. Like, I think Julia Michaels is ex. Is in love with her.

[Claudia Oshry]

Right.

[Jackie Oshry]

Like, so I don't. Phineas, for me, I can separate the two. And I don't think most people can. But, like, I'm just saying, I think in their relationship right now, I. He just seems like. Like, he's like, worse than ever. But maybe. Maybe he's not. Maybe this is. Maybe that's just him just tin.

[Claudia Oshry]

I don't know. I don't know. Until, like, something actually happens. We're, like, edging. We're always worried about just me. Nobody's fine.

[Jackie Oshry]

No. Yeah. And I'll get to a point of, like, oh, okay, well, that was nothing. And it continues to be nothing. So I'm moving on.

[Claudia Oshry]

But you feel like this feels different.

[Jackie Oshry]

I don't know. For the first, I feel like I'm like, are paying more attention right now.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah.

[Jackie Oshry]

I don't know why. Maybe.

[Claudia Oshry]

Okay.

[Jackie Oshry]

I don't know why.

[Claudia Oshry]

Okay.

[Jackie Oshry]

So don't waste your money at Drew House if you're.

[Claudia Oshry]

No.

[Jackie Oshry]

If you rock with Justin Bieber.

[Claudia Oshry]

The human in the physical sense is.

[Jackie Oshry]

The moral of the story.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah.

[Jackie Oshry]

Are you ready for our next story? Number four?

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah.

[Jackie Oshry]

Gwyneth Paltrow admits that she regrets not having more kids.

[Claudia Oshry]

Oh.

[Jackie Oshry]

So Gwyneth Paltrow, who has two children, Apple and Moses, who are 20 and 19, with her ex Husband Chris Martin recently admitted that she wishes she had more children. So she did an episode of her podcast and she said my dad, Bruce Paltrow, used to say the only regret he had in his entire life was not having more kids. And I felt like that for a long time. She said she told listeners that she began to feel more complete as a mother after marrying Brad Falchuk, who shares two kids with his.

[Claudia Oshry]

Oh yeah, she's also a bonus mom.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yes. So now she has like two more kids. She said in an ideal world, the relationship that you have that your kids in works out and your kids never have to experience divorce or blending families or anything like that, but a lot of times that's not the case. She said becoming a step parent has been tricky because it requires a great deal of accountability, vulnerability and understanding your triggers. And nothing quite seems to trigger somebody, especially women like a stepmother.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah.

[Jackie Oshry]

So she seems, she talks about actually like the growing means. Yeah. In the beginning of like having to everyone get together. She said what seems to happen every time is that dad is in the middle. The kids are having a hard time understanding and adjusting. They don't want to let go of the family dynamic they had and the dad is trying, trying to peas and play both sides. She said despite the initial hardships, they've made the blended family work. It started to feel really light and really cohesive. And since then we've had so many moments like that. It keeps deepening. It's such a particular kind of delight to see our four kids in their own relationships and being friends with each other and loving each other.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah. I feel like when it comes to co parenting, like they've got it down. Like, I know obviously it's not perfect and, but, and, and what. You only see what people want you to see. But just based on like her annual tributes to Chris on his birthday and.

[Jackie Oshry]

Father's Day and Dakota and Gwyneth, it.

[Claudia Oshry]

Just, it seems perfect.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah. And it's nice that she's saying like, no, it wasn't perfect and blending families is hard and that it all worked out and it was like nice, like a nice idea that she wished that she had more children. And now she has two more children technically, and she has this big family.

[Claudia Oshry]

She also, I feel like is always talking about her dad. Like she, she's like a classic Nepo baby. Right. Both of her parents are super famous. I feel like her mom is more well known like because she's a front facing actor, Blythe Danner, whereas her dad was like a TV Director or something. But she had. And when she lost her dad, obviously, famously, it was devastating for her. Chris Martin was so upset watching her be so upset. He wrote the song called Yellow. Like Imagine Gwyneth Paltrow is just seriously that bitch. Like, I'm sorry, I fudgeing love this woman. And so to hear her echo the statements of her father who's like such a deeply important figure in her life is nice. And then for her to, yes. To like sort of fix it weirdly is really nice.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah, it is really nice. And I guess you hear people say that like you never regret, you only regret like kids that you don't. You never regret having more.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah.

[Jackie Oshry]

Like a bigger family.

[Claudia Oshry]

How many kids do you want to have? I used to say like I wanted five, but it's like now I actually have to do it five times. Like if there was just like, if you, if we went to the grocery store, right, like, and you just like bought them. I would buy five kids. Yes. Ideally.

[Jackie Oshry]

That's your ideal number.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah. Because I loved being in a big family. Four and like maybe. Yeah, one more.

[Jackie Oshry]

Make it bigger. That's how I feel too. That's actually exactly how I feel. I love four. And then sometimes I'm like, well, more the merrier.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah. Right? Five. Yeah. Like five was always what I wanted.

[Jackie Oshry]

The practicalities, Jackie.

[Claudia Oshry]

So close to the edge, to the brink and haven't even birthed yet.

[Jackie Oshry]

I'll be surprised. I'll be interested to see if you forget a lot of the day to day pains and struggles because that's what the body does. So that by the time like you're ready, like you want to go again, you're ready and you forget like a lot of the misery.

[Claudia Oshry]

It's funny, okay.

[Jackie Oshry]

It's the body's way of survival. Plus you're a forgetful person.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yes. However, and, and I experienced this where like I really for a while had forgotten how bad the first trimester was because like you feel so much better and then you just like move on with your life and you can feel your body like sort of protecting you like a trauma response in forgetting about it. And I literally will let myself forget. I remind myself every night I'm like, we need to remember.

[Jackie Oshry]

The north remembers. But I'm telling like eventually so much more is going to be going on in your life that like at night you're going to forget to remember that bit and like maybe slowly but surely like it will go away and you'll always like know. Yeah, the first trimester is rough. But like, you will forget the ins and outs of it.

[Claudia Oshry]

It is also often a reminder that there are people who don't know that they're pregnant until they give birth. Like these like sort of crazy medical stories. And I'm just like, I'm calling a bluff. There's literally no way.

[Jackie Oshry]

No. It's so crazy.

[Claudia Oshry]

I used to watch that show, I didn't know I was pregnant on tlc where they would like tell these emergency room stories, like dramatizations of like, you know, they thought they had a stomachache and now they're a parent.

[Jackie Oshry]

Like, that's a, that's a concerning, you know, that you could be so aloof to your own life body. First of all, you didn't get your period, period. Second of all, like, you didn't notice a kick of nothing.

[Claudia Oshry]

I mean, for me, a tmj, an ibs, a carpal tunnel, a coccynia, like literally how? A belly, like, literally how.

[Jackie Oshry]

No, that's like serious negligence.

[Claudia Oshry]

Agreed on bodily autonomy.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah, really funny.

[Claudia Oshry]

Well, that's a perfect spot. A segue into Baby List, which is our lead sponsor today. We are big fans of Baby List, the one stop shop for making it easy to at least feel prepared for your first baby. There's a reason it's the Internet's favorite registry. I have a very complicated, you know, relationship with being prepared because so much of our religion and our superstition is like to just not think about it until, you know, we're not putting down roots. It's just whatever. But the type a freak in me, like, I'm in hell. I want to have like a nursery. I want, I want everything already. And so Baby List has actually been such a fabulous app for me. I downloaded it a couple of months ago just to get organized. Like, they make it really easy to like, learn a lot about different products. You can create checklists and obviously you can create registries. But I have found it, like, as somebody who feels overwhelmed by information, I have found it to be most helpful in that sense. Like just getting organized a little bit because there's only so much I can do for a few more weeks.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah, no, it's such a great app to get your mind organized. You don't have to. You still don't have to buy anything, but like, you know exactly what would be coming. You know, that your friends and family don't have to text you and ask you what you want. They have where to go and they can get you exactly what you want. Like, it's seriously so genius. And then once you have that, like, add to Baby List bookmark button on your bookmark bar, like, you're set all of a sudden, like, I'[e-mail] right? AD To Baby List.

[Claudia Oshry]

That's the other thing. It's like, so much information, so many products, like the Doona and the Nuna. Like, how you're supposed to know the difference between the two of them. Baby List really makes it easy every step of the way. And whether you're browsing, saving, purchasing stuff as you're figuring it out, even if you're not buying it right now, it's just such a great resource because it's really important to find products that meet your needs and your lifestyle as your family grows. And so I had used Baby List, like, a million times, buying for other people. So I was familiar. And one of my favorite features is when you buy something, they're like, do you want. I discovered this. They were like, do you want Nikki and Jordan to send you a thank you card? I was like, no, because I'm a nice person.

[Jackie Oshry]

And I'm like, when someone gives birth and then has to sit down, like, and write things. Thank you cards.

[Claudia Oshry]

She gave birth to twins. Okay. I'm like, please do not send me a gift card. A thank you card. It's actually really brilliant. And Ben has been having a lot of fun on Baby List as well. They have, like, a universal registry, so you can add anything from any store. And so Ben is obviously buying, like, not buying, registering for baby golf clubs. He's getting, like, really nuts. But it's fun because it's fun because the universal registry just allows you to literally get whatever you want. Obviously you need, like, the OGs, like, the car seats. Like, we need to be prepared, right?

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah.

[Claudia Oshry]

But we're having fun as well.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah, of course you should. They make it fun.

[Claudia Oshry]

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[Jackie Oshry]

Do it.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah, I think I will.

[Jackie Oshry]

You haven't sent the link, have you?

[Claudia Oshry]

Project. No, I haven't.

[Jackie Oshry]

Secret project.

[Claudia Oshry]

Secret project alert.

[Jackie Oshry]

Well, thank you. Baby List. Such a fast sponsor. I'm so happy to spread the gospel because, like, if you don't know about Baby List, like, it's about to change your life and.

[Claudia Oshry]

No, I feel like everybody knows about Baby List.

[Jackie Oshry]

I didn't know about it until my time came.

[Claudia Oshry]

Oh. I guess, like, I knew about it because I was, like, a little late to the party.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah. And you're always getting gifts for people because you're such a good.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah. I'm so generous. Yeah.

[Jackie Oshry]

Except for yourself.

[Claudia Oshry]

Except for myself, of course.

[Jackie Oshry]

Our fifth and final story, Dove Cameron is making news on Armchair Expert. So Dove Cameron, if you don't know her, she's from Liv and Maddie on Disney Channel. But she's also from descendants 1, 2 and 3. I would recommend. Recommend skipping 3, but don't sleep on descendants 1 and 2.

[Claudia Oshry]

One of our older listeners, she's like one of the most recent it girls to come out of the Disney machine.

[Jackie Oshry]

She's actually the same era as Sabrina Carpenter.

[Claudia Oshry]

Sabrina Carpenter. And Olivia Rodrigo.

[Jackie Oshry]

Olivia was like, a smidge later. Peyton List. Some of these girls, they're Post Miley and Selena.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yes.

[Jackie Oshry]

Some of you might have slept on them. And you were wrong for that because look at Sabrina. And I did not sleep on Dove Cameron. And now my hard work is bearing fruit because everyone's seeing what I've seen for so long.

[Claudia Oshry]

She also very famously dates the lead singer of. I call them Main Skin. Apparently, it's like a mana skin or whatever from Euro. Skip from Eurovision. Yeah, that like rock band.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah. And they sing the COVID of that song.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yes.

[Jackie Oshry]

Hold on. I didn't know she dates Main Skin.

[Claudia Oshry]

Okay, I'm not making that up. Right.

[Jackie Oshry]

And she previously dated Thomas Daugherty from the Gossip Girl. Failed.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yes.

[Jackie Oshry]

Tell me lies. The guy Leo, you guys.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yes.

[Jackie Oshry]

She literally invented him. She dated him before because he played the pirate in Descendants.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah. Jeff Cameron's in a relationship. Damiano David, the lead singer of Italian rock band Main Skin.

[Jackie Oshry]

That's really crazy.

[Claudia Oshry]

And they've been together since, you know, 2023.

[Jackie Oshry]

They do the COVID of Begging. Begging. Megan, you.

[Claudia Oshry]

No, no, that's not the Begging song. It's.

[Jackie Oshry]

No, you're lying.

[Claudia Oshry]

Oh, no, wait. Maybe it is. Maybe it is. They went to the Met gala. They went to the Met gala. He's really hot.

[Jackie Oshry]

Did Dev go to the metal? I think she did.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah. I'm saying they went together.

[Jackie Oshry]

Oh, they. I thought you meant main skin.

[Claudia Oshry]

Oh, no, the other members of main skin. Like, we don't know them.

[Jackie Oshry]

She's actually like a long term relationship girly. Because she had two serious relationships. She's actually just talking about them, how they were, like, quite toxic. And she's been through a lot. So she's on Armchair Expert and she's talking about, you know, armchair expert things. And she was sharing how her dad committed suicide when she was 15, when she started on living Maddie. And it was just like a crazy time. And she's going through the details of like being 13, 14 and 15 and like living with her dad who had serious depression or like going to visit him for the summer and just like these really crazy anecdotes. And she's also so well spoken.

[Claudia Oshry]

Well spoken and like mature. She's not like overly emotional. She seems like really like healed.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah. And like thoroughly therapies. And she said that she's like, I'm. I've excavated all of this in therapy, like my personal family history. And like going back, like, at the time she was like 13, 14, and her dad was seriously depressed and she thought that he was mad at her. So she would, like, try even harder and he would just like reject her. But he was like pushing her away because of what he was going through and like, knowing, you know, what his plans were. Well, and that's really sad. Yeah. So I watched a lot of clips from the episode and I've never watched as many clips from Armchair Expert. And I have to say, like, I understand now why Dax Shepard, you get the height, I get the hype. He's extremely. I feel like the term emotionally intelligent is overused. But like, he interjects with like, oh, he was like, you know that. I imagine that would make me feel blank. And it's like, it's like. Yes, exactly. And it's actually like.

[Claudia Oshry]

It's like a conversation.

[Jackie Oshry]

It's a conversation, but it's. It's. He takes it deeper than you would think. And I didn't realize he was like, so muscular.

[Claudia Oshry]

Okay, well, so I meant to tell you this.

[Jackie Oshry]

I thought you looked tall and skinny.

[Claudia Oshry]

Last night I very weirdly, like, I could not find something to watch. Me and Ben started Parenthood. We only watched one episode. And I can't lie, I didn't like it. Ben liked it, but it. Zach Shepard is the star.

[Jackie Oshry]

Okay.

[Claudia Oshry]

So is Lorelai Gilmore, whatever. Lauren Graham and Mae Whitman. And that story we were saying last week, remember that Lorelei Gilmore went on Armchair Expert talking about May Whitman. Now I understand, like, how it's all connected because they're. They're obviously like lifelong friends in the show. And it wasn't like a big secret that she revealed. Like, she obviously had maze permission.

[Jackie Oshry]

They're like, what about maybe Fume K? Was she there?

[Claudia Oshry]

Wait, so is May Whitman maybe Fume K? No, no.

[Jackie Oshry]

May Whitman is Anne.

[Claudia Oshry]

No, she is. Oh, yeah, she's Ann. Yeah.

[Jackie Oshry]

And then maybe few kids is someone else.

[Claudia Oshry]

It's sort of like an unknown. We.

[Jackie Oshry]

Hold on. Let me just.

[Claudia Oshry]

Whatever. All that to say, like, I had never seen Dax Shepard act before. I know him as, like, Kristen Bell's husband and like, a podcaster. So it was very, you know, shocking to see him doing his thing. And yes, he is muscular.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah. No, and he's got Riz, I would say.

[Claudia Oshry]

Oh, were you, like, if it sounds like you were being dazzled by Dax Shepard. Dazzled by the Dax, Dax and Jacks.

[Jackie Oshry]

More so than I would have ever expected because I was like, I just know Armchair Expert exists. I know people love it. I know, like, big celebrities go on, and I had no idea what they do there, I imagine.

[Claudia Oshry]

I've actually also never seen a clip of it. Like, I didn't know what their studio looked like.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah. And he has a co host who also is. Monica just is, like, warm and compassionate.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah. I think that they get a lot of really good guests, obviously, because he's really famous and, like, well connected, but because I think they, like, foster a really lovely environment.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah. And they know how to, like, have conversations and get. Get people to open up without prying.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah.

[Jackie Oshry]

You know, because she was like, I don't know how deep we go on this podcast. And he's like, oh, no, we go deep. So it wasn't even him making her go. Like, she felt like she was going in.

[Claudia Oshry]

She. She felt like she wanted to share.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah. So I think.

[Claudia Oshry]

I think the only person who would disagree with what we're saying is jvn. Jvn, like, has a. Like, a horror story. Like, it's like his Roman Empire is the episode of what's it called, Armchair Expert that JVN was on. But other than that, I think, like, celebrities love it.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah. I don't know exactly what Dove was promoting. Maybe a new album. She makes a lot of music.

[Claudia Oshry]

She did also do. Do a musical performance on, like, a Colbert. I forget which one late night show that I saw pretty recently. So she's probably doing new music. Her music career has not gone off in the way that I think it it needs to. She's extremely talented.

[Jackie Oshry]

She's extremely talented. But, yeah, the. I followed her for a really long time, and, like, I've always. I'll always be a fan of hers. I think she's great and really talented, but I, like, stopped. I've just, like, moved on. But I'm so happy to see her. I feel like she's starting to get her flowers a little bit. I've been seeing her, like, more and more.

[Claudia Oshry]

I feel like she's gonna have a very similar trajectory to Sabrina Carpenter. People slept on Sabrina Carpenter, and she was, like, doing the most for years. Like, after Disney, after contract was up, up, she just kind of couldn't get arrested. And then it was this happy. And then she also had that big scandal with Olivia Rodrigo, which, like, made it worse for her. And then everything sort of aligned and. And people started to take notice. And I think maybe that'll happen with Dove Cameron because she is supremely talented.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah. But, like, the music has to be good. Even when I was, like, a huge fan of hers, like, the music was always just, like, very art. Not what I wanted to hear coming off of Descendants, you know, like.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah, yeah.

[Jackie Oshry]

Very, like, dark and artsy and. And it's just, like, not for the masses. I don't know what she's putting out now, but she has an amazing voice. She's obviously.

[Claudia Oshry]

Actually. The clip I saw of her performing was, like, very dark and artsy.

[Jackie Oshry]

Okay. Dartsy.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah. And now with the main skin boyfriend, that's, like, so his vibe too, right?

[Jackie Oshry]

She's not coming out of that for a while.

[Claudia Oshry]

No. We need her to date.

[Jackie Oshry]

Like, but this is who she is. Like, even the way that she speaks on that. Like, she's not going to be making. No, she's not headed to the One Direction Factory for timeless hits.

[Claudia Oshry]

Well, then we all suffer.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah, but that's. I think she's. She seems happy and.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah, she does well.

[Jackie Oshry]

But I think she's making a lot of waves right now with this podcast, and I'm happy for her. I'm happy for dads as well.

[Claudia Oshry]

Huge moment for podcasts.

[Jackie Oshry]

Finally, after how many years has been doing it, that I finally caught a glimpse.

[Claudia Oshry]

It's actually really crazy that, like, I've never seen a clip of his show. His clips, like, don't go viral.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah. But also, like, his guests are not like our. The swirlies usually.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah, they're super swirly. No, no. Super swirly.

[Jackie Oshry]

And the combos aren't super swirly. I wouldn't even say this combo was super swirly.

[Claudia Oshry]

No. Should we dive into Queenie and Weenie? Our final segment of the week now that we've done the fast five and they were really pargy. Well done.

[Jackie Oshry]

Oh, thank you. Yeah, I. There was like six today. I had to trim him. So I guess you might have to.

[Claudia Oshry]

Wait till next week to find out. What?

[Jackie Oshry]

I don't want to like tease it, but like Jamie King did a podcast.

[Claudia Oshry]

Oh, she did.

[Jackie Oshry]

And guess which one she did. You're never gonna guess. And if I told you keeping up with sports. If I told you which one she did, you might not want to talk about the story. And now you have to tell me, Jana Kramer.

[Claudia Oshry]

Okay, moving on. Our final segment of the week, Queenie and weenie of the week. One of my favorites. Jackie and I love to wrap up the week, take a look at the week at a glance and give out two awards. Queenie of the week and Winnie of the week. They're pretty self explanat. If you act like a queen of this week, you might be queenie of the week. If you act like a big old weenie this week you might be weenie of the week. It's a seven day title. It's not that serious. Let's dive in, shall we?

[Jackie Oshry]

Yes.

[Claudia Oshry]

First up, Queenie. Would you like to go first?

[Jackie Oshry]

My Queenie is the person who was going to be the Queenie of my last week and I said if he is still reigning supreme, he'll be at this. Because we didn't do Queen Anne Meanie last week.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah, we didn't.

[Jackie Oshry]

And that is the coach of the Auburns, Bruce Pearl.

[Claudia Oshry]

Oh, you're a little delayed, but I'll allow it.

[Jackie Oshry]

But he made it to the final two. The other coach who won is also a Jew, but Bruce Pearl has my heart, Brian Pearlman. Yeah, we love more Eagles Brian Pearlman at this show. And no one did anything to me like that was more Queenie, like, because I was ready to, you know, realize that he missed his chance at being Queenie and I know that would haunt him forever. But he is still my Queenie of the week. He lost with. I love that with dignity. I'm glad I wasn't in a bracket because I would have put it all on Bruce and I would have lost it all.

[Claudia Oshry]

My Queenie of the week is a little Twitter account called Pooh Crave. They made me chuckle so many times this week and then because we spoke about them on the toast yesterday, they followed us on Twitter. So now we are officially followed by Pooh Crave. And I don't know a lot of podcasts that can say that. You know, they say like Peabody Award winning we are a Poo Crave approved podcast. And like, what that does. And for anyone who doesn't know, because I feel like people were confused when I posted this clip yesterday. You guys know the Instagram account? Excuse me, the Tick Tock account? My God. Twitter account Pop Crave. It's like the yellow logo they do. Like all breaking pop news they share. You know, when people post a picture from when people die, like, they do all. It's like a TMZ for Gen Z. And then somebody made an a Twitter account that looks just like it. They use the same logo. Their username is not Pop Underscore Crave, but Poo Underscore Crave. But they format their tweets to look exactly like the breaking news. And every now and then you'll get caught because. But they're all satire. They're all parodies, they're all jokes. That's why the Belinda Zion incest scene that I mentioned yesterday night was a joke. But it looked like a real Pop Crave tweet that I was like, oh my God. So it's such a funny concept. It's like harmless and I love it. Jackie and I were also victims of Pooh Crave a couple of weeks ago when we said that Mikey Madison was playing Yoko Ono in the Beatles biopic because it was a Poo crave tweet, not a pop Grave tweet.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah, Pooh Crave has. I'm looking at some of their recent tweets.

[Claudia Oshry]

Oh, yeah. Share them.

[Jackie Oshry]

The Blackpink's Lisa is set to play Rosa Parks in an upcoming HG miniseries.

[Claudia Oshry]

No. And like, the world is so crazy that you often find yourself thinking like, this could be true.

[Jackie Oshry]

I don't know if this is true because another one. This is another one. I don't know if this is true. And they're just like. But Jake Shane predicts bossy bottom summer.

[Claudia Oshry]

That's not real.

[Jackie Oshry]

That's not. Okay, tell me about this one. Kesha's new single Yippee Ki Yay has hit number 29 on the Icelandic.

[Claudia Oshry]

I do unless it's possible, but I'm gonna say no.

[Jackie Oshry]

Atlantic itunes chart landing her biggest come biggest comeback in years.

[Claudia Oshry]

I just want to say Kesha's new song is so good. Have you heard it singing Yippee?

[Jackie Oshry]

I heard a little bit.

[Claudia Oshry]

I just got a brand new guy and T pains in it and it's like a little country Pop. It's very good.

[Jackie Oshry]

Shane Dawson is currently ranting on Instagram live after his loco Taco Bell wouldn't sermon. Serve him Doritos. Losing Locos tacos during breakfast hours.

[Claudia Oshry]

It's seriously so funny. No, I know. They make they format it to look so real.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah.

[Claudia Oshry]

So they brought me a lot of joy this week and many weeks prior and it's time that they get their crown.

[Jackie Oshry]

That is funny. Okay. Who's your. Oh, I'll. I'll do a weenie. Sure. It wasn't a weenie filled week. I will say no.

[Claudia Oshry]

Mine was like something that came to me. Like, I've been like a hater of something and I want to share what I've been hating on.

[Jackie Oshry]

My weenie of the week is guy talk. Weenie like behavior exhibited through and through.

[Claudia Oshry]

He's actually the definition of a weenie.

[Jackie Oshry]

Definition of a weenie. He culminated the season in a weenie like fashion. And yep, he's got to take the.

[Claudia Oshry]

W. I absolutely love that and I wholeheartedly endorse.

[Jackie Oshry]

Thank you.

[Claudia Oshry]

Your. Your candidate. Mine is just. I wanted to talk about this Use weenie as an opportunity to talk about something that I've seen that's really been bothering me on social media. So my winning of the week is a tretch trend that I've seen people do. And it's like, I'm so. I feel like you actually might fall victim to this trend. Oh, what is with everyone making their own bagels? Three ingredient bagels. Excuse me? Like, maybe I'm feeling extra sensitive because it's Passover and, like, I'm feeling extra grateful for bagels.

[Jackie Oshry]

You could eat a cottage cheese bagel during Passover. Yeah.

[Claudia Oshry]

People making their own bagels out of, like, cottage cheese in there. And literally the things that they pull out of the oven look like people's testicles. Like, it's crazy.

[Jackie Oshry]

Like organs.

[Claudia Oshry]

We have to stop making our own bagels. Like, especially if you're making them with Greek yogurt. Like, it's so crazy.

[Jackie Oshry]

It is. I'm so proud to say I have not fallen into this. I've not even been to ingredient bagel Curious. And what I also find weird, I see people doing it who, like, who don't make. Right. Like, they order everything. Like, why is this what you're making? It's not like they're people who, like, always are looking for healthy alternatives, always are eating from scratch. Like, like, oh, what? You know, want a keto bagel. They've been waiting their whole life for this. Like, they're the laziest people, but they'll make a two ingredient bagel.

[Claudia Oshry]

Jackie, I'm so glad you agree with me on this. It's bothering me so much, especially because they couldn't look more disgusting.

[Jackie Oshry]

And what's funny is I actually feel like a little guilty that I haven't done it because I'm like, I. I sometimes eat a bagel and maybe I should have A2 ingredient one. Everyone says they're so good and fluffy eagles are perfect. They're so fluffy. Right?

[Claudia Oshry]

They're the opposite of fluffy.

[Jackie Oshry]

They look like raises. And why is it Bethany Frankel.

[Claudia Oshry]

No. You know who I blame? The first person I saw making their own bagels, like, a year ago. I feel like his name is Bryce Harper and he plays for the Phillies. And Ben was showing me his tick tock, being like, oh, my God, do you know Bryce Harper from the Phillies? Like, he's popping off on tick tock and he made his own bagels. And everybody was like, commenting. And that was the first time I saw it. And then maybe it was because it was the first time. And then I started seeing it everywhere. And now it's just like a thing people are doing. And I'm actually really worried about our sister Olivia because I feel like she's gonna fall victim and, like, try to make it. And I need to talk to her.

[Jackie Oshry]

And tell her she can't pass over because. What's the second ingredient? Flour.

[Claudia Oshry]

People make their own. You could use almond flour. Like, you can make it if you have all your different dietary restrictions. Like, it's seriously, at some point just have a salad. Like it's not a bagel anymore.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah, no, it's really. It is crazy. But the baseball player making it doesn't bother me because, like, that's like an athlete who's like, has diet.

[Claudia Oshry]

Health conscious. I completely agree. I wasn't bothered when I saw it and he was being like, cute and funny. He has like this little tick tock show. Meanwhile, he has like a $400 million contract. Like, he doesn't need to be doing it. So like, like, when I saw it with him, it didn't bother me. Then I started seeing. I'm like, oh, this is a thing we're all doing now. I'm not participating and you all are disgusting. Because I love bagels.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah. I have definitely felt not pressured enough to do it, but a little bit left behind that I don't want to eat a cottage cheese Greek yogurt bagel.

[Claudia Oshry]

Correct.

[Jackie Oshry]

And like, and then, like, try and make it into a bagel shape, which doesn't seem okay.

[Claudia Oshry]

So that is the best part of watching everybody's tutorials is they make this. This cement sticky dough, and they're like, now we're gonna format it into bagels. And they can't even get it off.

[Jackie Oshry]

Dirty fingers in the middle.

[Claudia Oshry]

No, but, Jackie, they can't even get it off their fingers. Like, it's so tacky. And it's so not dough. Like, because it's not. It's literally like mortar.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah.

[Claudia Oshry]

And to watch them be like. Like. And make it into. Look how good that looks. You literally made a rock.

[Jackie Oshry]

No, it literally looks like ass until they put it in the oven, and it, like, somehow rises, and then it.

[Claudia Oshry]

No. And then it comes out, and it looks like an old man's ass.

[Jackie Oshry]

They put everything back about the bagel seasoning and, like, they make it look like a bagel.

[Claudia Oshry]

They think that EBTB is gonna save it, and it ain't.

[Jackie Oshry]

No, it might mask it, but we know what's in there.

[Claudia Oshry]

Correct? Well, I'm glad I got that off my chest. I feel lighter than air.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah. I think it's. It will come to an end soon.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah. Someone's gonna get hurt. I agree, because I'm gonna throw one of their bagels at them. That's our show. What a great week. We are heading into Passover. But. But, you know, thanks to the beautiful Jewish calendar, Jack and I are back here on Monday.

[Jackie Oshry]

No episodes missed, no days off.

[Claudia Oshry]

Even though it is still technically a hog, like, we will be working.

[Jackie Oshry]

We should have taken off Monday because it is, like, whole M08 or 100.

[Claudia Oshry]

No, it's not whole M8. It's Yom Tov.

[Jackie Oshry]

It's Yom Tov. We're working on Yom Tov. Tisk. Tisk.

[Claudia Oshry]

So I'm wishing everyone who's embarking on this journey good luck. It'll be over before we know it, you know?

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah. Have potato chips. Have fresh.

[Claudia Oshry]

Just remember, we have potatoes.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah. And some of us have corn.

[Claudia Oshry]

Right. And depending on where your family hails from, perhaps if you're a little bit more Middle Eastern, you also have rice.

[Jackie Oshry]

I would eat rice and just take. You know, claim it.

[Claudia Oshry]

And. And don't forget about the legumes.

[Jackie Oshry]

But some people have legumes.

[Claudia Oshry]

Oh, that's where you're wrong.

[Jackie Oshry]

But maybe a little crispy rice.

[Claudia Oshry]

So good luck, everyone.

[Jackie Oshry]

Crispy rice, little sushi.

[Claudia Oshry]

I'm so hungry. Thank you so much for listening to the Toast and Landed morning show where we Deliver the Fast5 stories you need to do every Monday through Friday on YouTube. So you're watching so YouTube please feel free to subscribe. Give us video thumbs up your public video. I already cast box with the places we listen to podcast. You had a beautiful setting and talented we are.

[Jackie Oshry]

Love ya. Bye.