The Rumors Are True, I Deleted Olandria: Monday, July 27th, 2026

Summary

The Toast – "The Rumors Are True, I Deleted Olandria"

Hosts: Jackie & Claudia Oshry
Date: July 27, 2026
Episode Overview:
Jackie and Claudia deliver their signature blend of pop culture commentary, reality TV dissection, personal anecdotes, and fast five trending stories. The main theme centers on shifting dynamics in influencer culture, timely celebrity and sports news, and in-depth conversation about recent entertainment happenings—including the fallout of a headline-grabbing, allegedly fake relationship (Nickelandria). The sisters approach each topic with wit, candidness, and plenty of personal flair.

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Episode Breakdown

Opening Catch-Up & Weekend Recap

• (00:56–04:40) Jackie and Claudia begin with upbeat banter, recapping their "fabulous" weekend, which included family time, the beach, and parenting anecdotes.
  • Jackie shares her thoughts on "contact naps" at the beach: "When I tell you it was like one of the most miserable hours of my life… it was just like I wanted to enjoy it, but I didn’t." (03:13)
  • Cute, behind-the-scenes family moments: beachside naps, butterflies hatching, and consideration over baby Halloween costumes.

The Great Butterfly Hatching & Signs from Nature

• (05:04–09:59) The sisters gush over a butterfly hatching project, care tips, and the sense of "spiritual" energy in their summer home.
  • Jackie: "All the butterflies hatched, which I think is kind of amazing because people said… expect a couple of deaths. Every single one hatched." (05:46)
  • Turt (Claudia): Shares a story about a ladybug in her son’s nose, interpreting it as a spiritual sign.
• (08:11–09:59) Discussion of the home’s "clairvoyant essence," bird and bug encounters, and (lightly) joking about paranormal activity.

TV Recaps: "Off Campus"

• (10:45–18:24) In-depth review of the TV show "Off Campus," discussing major plot developments and character arcs.
  • Jackie critiques a pivotal scene: "That was not justice. That didn’t make Hannah happy. That guy is such a disgusting devil." (11:38)
  • Analysis of relationships, sexual content ("it’s not even like a sex show"), and acting performances.
• Debate on what makes a teen heartthrob, with references to Jacob Elordi, Noah Centineo, Regé-Jean Page, and actor career strategies.

Fast Five Stories

1. Emma Roberts’ Surprise Wedding

• (26:46–30:32) Emma Roberts marries Cody John in Idaho; the hosts reflect on her long-term relationships, public image, and status as a millennial icon.
  • Jackie: "She really is... everything she touches, like, turns to gold and she really, like, is that girl for like women our age." (28:23)
  • Discussion of famous "aunties" in pop culture, including Julia Roberts and the Kardashians.

2. Nickelandria Split: Deleting "Olandria"

• (31:01–37:40) Explosive coverage of Nick Van Steenberg’s paywalled breakup statement and the questionable authenticity of his and Alandria’s relationship.
  • Notable Quote: "The rumors are true. I deleted my Alandria." – Nick (32:49)
  • Jackie and Claudia scrutinize the vagueness: "Said nothing. And they've been saying nothing." (36:24)
  • Bold take on influencer relationships and public perceptions: "We wanted better for her than she wants for herself." (33:29)

3. Paige Lorenze vs. Nantucket Store’s "No Influencers" Sign

• (47:55–53:54) Paige speaks out after a Nantucket store posts an anti-influencer sign, prompting a thoughtful defense of influencer culture.
  • Paige (read by Jackie): "Mocking women when they become powerful in a new industry isn’t new... One woman with a loyal audience can successfully launch a business at a scale that once required corporate backing..." (49:29)
  • Claudia adds: "People being obsessed with hating influencers... it’s a female dominated space. It’s the only space where women make more money than men." (50:13)
• Hosts agree Paige’s response is a "slay," calling out sexism and the store’s misstep.

4. Timothée Chalamet’s Mom Supports Kris Jenner

• (59:47–62:24) Noticing Timothée Chalamet’s mother leaving condolences on Kris Jenner’s Instagram post for MJ’s birthday.
  • Jackie: "That’s just the Machatunam nature." (60:45)
  • Light speculation on the closeness of the Jenner-Chalamet families and celebrity marriage trends.

5. LeBron James Signs with 76ers – Major NBA News

• (63:37–68:53) Deep dive into LeBron James’ career move to Philadelphia, implications for the Knicks, and legacy-building.
  • Turt: "I do think, like, one man doesn’t make a team, even LeBron James."
  • Jackie counters: "The point is that he does make a team. That’s what he’s going to prove. It’s very Tom Brady and the Buccaneers." (64:18)
  • Extended riff on GOAT status, sports fandom, and player career arcs.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Butterfly Hatching:
  "We have sugar water for them in there. Zach has been on top of... Yeah, Zach's really been on top... He's been feeding them. And then we will let them go in a couple days. But people who have done this have said that they actually, like, stick around." – Jackie (06:01)
• On Nickelandria Split:
  "The rumors are true. I deleted my Alandria." – Nick (32:49)
  "It’s a sensitive as well as a private subject. Thank you for respecting our privacy. Said nothing. And they've been saying nothing." – Jackie (36:24)
• On Influencer Culture:
  "Mocking women when they become powerful in a new industry isn’t new." – Paige Lorenze (read at 49:29)
  "If you have a store or a business and you have a sign that says no blank about a group of human beings, unless it says, like, no rapists... you're wrong." – Jackie (51:45)
• On LeBron News:
  "I do think, like, one man doesn’t make a team, even LeBron James." – Turt (64:18)
  "The point is that he does make a team. That’s what he’s going to prove. It’s very Tom Brady and the Buccaneers." – Jackie (64:18)

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Timestamps: Important Segments

• [03:13] – Beachside contact nap anecdote
• [05:46] – Butterfly hatching celebration
• [10:45–18:24] – "Off Campus" TV show deep dive
• [26:46] – Emma Roberts wedding news
• [32:49] – Nickelandria breakup revelation
• [49:29] – Paige Lorenze’s statement on "No Influencers" sign
• [59:47] – Timothée Chalamet’s mom & Kris Jenner
• [63:37] – LeBron James to 76ers analysis

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Tone & Language

• Playful, honest, and a bit snarky—but with underlying warmth for their subjects (unless the subject is influencer-bashing).
• Casual, chatty, frequently weaving personal stories into their pop culture takes.
• Culturally savvy, with a finger on the pulse of internet trends and reality TV dynamics.

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In Summary:
Jackie and Claudia Oshry blend real-life motherhood, pop culture obsession, and sharp commentary in this lively episode. Centerpieces include the public unraveling of Nickelandria, the evolving reputation of influencers, and breaking celebrity/sports news. Full of quotable moments, inside references, and critique of both mainstream and niche culture, this episode is a must-listen for anyone invested in the intersection of reality TV, social media, and 21st-century fame.

Transcript

[Jackie]

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[Turt]

Good morning, girlies. It's the Toast.

[Jackie]

It's Jackson Claude and we're your host.

[Turt]

It's your favorite show.

[Jackie]

The Fast 5 things you need to know.

[Turt]

We'll start your day off swirly. It's the Toast.

[Jackie]

They sound amazing.

[Turt]

Welcome back to the Toast and happy Monday. Hope everybody had a fabulous weekend. And speaking of fabulous, that is her simple request. All things fabulous.

[Jackie]

Never bigger, better and best.

[Turt]

You want something inspiring to. Oh, wait, hold on. This light is out.

[Jackie]

Oh, where's her light? Journey Fred?

[Turt]

One of the lights turn a. Fred,

[Jackie]

it's actually my light.

[Turt]

And look who has your back.

[Jackie]

Journey Fred. Okay, we're back.

[Turt]

That was such a perfect intro.

[Jackie]

It was. I thought we could keep going like through the light.

[Turt]

Oh, should we keep this on? Okay, yeah, we're still recording. I need something inspiring to help me get along. I need a little fabulous. Is that so wrong? I've been thinking a lot about that sort of read to filth. You gave Ashley Tisdale that, like anyone could have played Sharpay. And like, she wasn't like, she was just sort of like replaceable. I've been thinking about that a lot.

[Jackie]

And what do you think about this

[Turt]

fun, like, intro to the show. Very bts.

[Jackie]

Very. What do you think about the thesis?

[Turt]

I mean, when I first heard it, I couldn't get really past like the meanness of it. But now that I have that, that has subsided, like.

[Jackie]

Yeah, you like?

[Turt]

And she did always feel like slightly miscast maybe because like if you grew up in the Disney Channel world, you knew her as the like hotel concierge girl. She was like, poor and like frumpy. And London was. London was the fabulous one. And she was sort of like the house Frau with like the fringe bangs. And then we're supposed to believe. And she was so believable. She was so good at that role. Maddie, I think her name was. So then we were supposed to believe that she's like this heiress. It was just like a huge flip.

[Jackie]

Well, like a great actress would have you believing.

[Turt]

But you're saying that we didn't believe.

[Jackie]

We didn't believe. And I, as much as I stand by what I said, like, period. I I didn't want to have to say it twice, you know.

[Turt]

Oh, and me bringing it back up hurtful for you.

[Jackie]

I felt like I needed to say my truth, but, like, I don't really want to drill it in because, as

[Turt]

you said, like, like, because of that aforementioned meanness.

[Jackie]

Yeah, let's move on. The mean spirited nature of the comment.

[Turt]

Let's move on. Welcome back to the toast. Hope everybody had an amazing weekend. We did not to, like, rub it in.

[Jackie]

Yeah. Speaking of fabulous weekends, so much good

[Turt]

food and family and memories and just like being outdoors. Also being indoors.

[Jackie]

So much fresh air, like, so much sea air activities. We felt the sea.

[Turt]

We went to the beach.

[Jackie]

We did go to the beach.

[Turt]

Oh, my God. It was one of those weekends where I was having so much fun. I didn't even post on my Instagram. And then when I went to post on my Instagram, I had nothing eligible to post because it was like, all

[Jackie]

the kids, nothing eligible. We had seaside contact naps.

[Turt]

We did have seaside contact naps. And I don't really get contact naps that much these days. So, like, when I get them, I try to really enjoy them. And when I tell you it was like one of the most miserable hours of my life, I was in this most uncomfortable chair at the beach. Ben kept disappearing. I didn't have my phone because it was Shabbat. And you guys know I've been, like, turning my phone off for Shabbat. A contact nap without a Shabbat. I mean, a contact nap without a phone. And Jackie's over there with her little baby who's, like, so light and sleeping so good. And she has her phone and she's just fitting perfectly in that chair. This chair just did not align with my coccydynia. So I have this enormous child.

[Jackie]

It was a wooden rocking chair, which was, like, amazing because we were able to rock sleep. But then we're stuck in these wooden chairs. Hard.

[Turt]

Not a cushion. Ben's gone. I'm so thirsty. I don't have a phone. I can't communicate with anyone to get me.

[Jackie]

And it's like I'm texting on your behalf. But Ben doesn't have a phone.

[Turt]

Correct.

[Jackie]

Zach's like, on the beach with the kids. I was like, one has a phone.

[Turt]

I was literally trying to flag down randoms to be like, can you bring me a bottle of water? I was dying. Ruby is so heavy. I haven't contact napped in so long. Like, let me tell you, it was not magical. Like, my arm was broken, my leg Was, like, sore. It was just like, I wanted to enjoy it, but I didn't.

[Jackie]

It's the idea of the thing and,

[Turt]

you know, like a beachside contact nap. And the pictures we took, like, so cute. What you don't see in those pictures is a woman. Suff.

[Jackie]

Yeah. But we'll look back with rose colored glasses and we'll remember the time we

[Turt]

both took a beachside contact nap.

[Jackie]

We did. That's like a dream. If you told us. I know again, we're gonna sit in rocking chairs by the sea and the babies are gonna sleep on us, we'd say that's the dream.

[Turt]

Also, huge news from the weekend is that we have landed on a costume for the babies for Halloween. Which, like, I was worried about, but it sort of is so obvious.

[Jackie]

Actually, talk to me offline. I have an idea.

[Turt]

What? So you don't want me to say the costume?

[Jackie]

No.

[Turt]

Okay.

[Jackie]

1,000%. Yeah. So let's just sit that there. The other huge news for the weekend, I love, love. The other huge news for the weekend that I thought you were gonna say is the butterflies.

[Turt]

Oh, I was not gonna say that.

[Jackie]

The butterflies hatch, you guys.

[Turt]

So what you're saying is it's butterfly season. I'm finding my wings. Good time for leaving behind the old me.

[Jackie]

Headed for, I don't know, the rest of it. Lavender fields.

[Turt]

I heard one of them died.

[Jackie]

No.

[Turt]

And then came back to life.

[Jackie]

It's just a lazy one. All the butterflies hatch, which I think is, like, kind of amazing because people said like. And the man expects a couple. Expect a couple of deaths.

[Turt]

Deaths.

[Jackie]

Yeah. Every single one hatch. They're in there fluttering the.

[Turt]

We have to have, like, a full ceremony when we release them.

[Jackie]

Of course, we will all make speeches. The manual says I keep them for five days because you should give them sugar water. And they don't know this world yet. So we are just, like, sort of

[Turt]

birthing them, nurturing them.

[Jackie]

We have sugar water for them in there. Zach has been on top of.

[Turt]

Yeah, Zach's really been on top.

[Jackie]

He's been feeding them. And then we will let them go in a couple days. But people who have done this have said that they actually, like, stick around. They stick around the area even more like, immediate. They will. They won't leave. Like, one person said, my child had a butterfly on their nose. Isn't that so cute?

[Turt]

Speaking of butterfly on nose, do you guys want to hear the craziest thing? You weren't even there for this. We're all playing in the kitchen.

[Jackie]

Speaking of butterfly on notes. Yeah. Right.

[Turt]

Is that a good transition to what I'm about to say? We're all playing in the kitchen. And you know me, I'm. I'm on the couch, Ruby's on the floor. I monitor from the couch. And yeah, there's a couch in our kitchen in this room. And let me just tell you, when I have my forever home, we're putting

[Jackie]

a couch in the kitchen.

[Turt]

Yeah, I love that, by the way. It's like a little love seat I'm always sitting on. It's really like, it's for two, but one.

[Jackie]

One and a half.

[Turt]

And Ruby's playing and he looks over at me, he's got this like black thing coming out of his nose. And I'm like, what the hell is that? Looked like like maybe like an old crusty bloody booger.

[Jackie]

Classic.

[Turt]

So I go get a tissue, I wipe it and I look, it's a ladybug. And I just feel like that means something. Right.

[Jackie]

Did you make a wish?

[Turt]

I wasn't sure if it was crawling up or crawling out. I really hope it was crawling up. Of course.

[Jackie]

I think it was crawling up.

[Turt]

You think? Right?

[Jackie]

Yeah, yeah. Did you make a wish?

[Turt]

I didn't make a wish. I just felt that like in that moment someone was speaking to me and message received. Unclear from who or what, but I feel like there was a message being sent. Ladybugs are like, totally like, if you're into like. Yeah, ladybugs are up there with butterflies too.

[Jackie]

Yeah, they carry spirits.

[Turt]

I think Teresa Caputo, like, is into butterflies.

[Jackie]

Well, our home is like very, you know, paranormal, I would say. Remember the birds and the bugs. It might be because our pool filter is broken, but it does feel very spiritual. There are.

[Turt]

I actually totally agree there. It's like a clairvoyant essence to the home that we've rented.

[Jackie]

The birds fly really low around the pool. There's a lot of bugs, dragonflies. And now people have said like. And the pool guy has said, it's cuz the filter's broken. The pool guy, it just feels more magical than that. And it was also the day that the skies were ashy, smoky. And so I think the birds were confused.

[Turt]

But I have to tell you, you weren't in the backyard the other day. It happened again. We were talking about it, but someone was like, don't tell Jackie because you were getting like really freaked out. The birds were circling. Why do. And I was like googling it. Nobody had a clear. I've seen it sometimes where birds like gather and circle Sometimes there's like a dead deer.

[Jackie]

Yes, yes, yes.

[Turt]

But there was nothing. They were all just like sort of hovering around. Yeah, I'm telling you. You're right. Like paranormal activity.

[Jackie]

Yeah, for sure.

[Turt]

Yeah.

[Jackie]

So the butterflies can add to that. They came to the right place.

[Turt]

A thousand percent. They know.

[Jackie]

Are you feeling more comfortable? Are you gonna call PETA on me for having butterflies like pets?

[Turt]

It does. Like again, the nature of purchasing like human lives on Amazon is not human. Not human, but like lives on Amazon. Yeah, I. The thing is, I saw Blackfish and once you've seen Blackfish, the documentary, it unfortunately changes you as a person. And if you don't want to like walk through this world just feeling so sad for animals, I really wouldn't recommend seeing it. I wouldn't. Because while it was amazing, like it did ruin a lot of things for me. SeaWorld most specifically. But just like a lot of things. Like I can't even go to the zoo anymore without asking, like, is this like a conservatory?

[Jackie]

Like, yeah. Right.

[Turt]

So I just. Yeah. Butterflies are people too.

[Jackie]

Yeah, but they're living a wonderful life.

[Turt]

Like, I don't know, they're like living in a tiny like, well, hamper. Literally in a hamper.

[Jackie]

It's just like how a baby sleeps in a crib and it's fit for their size. To them, that's a palace.

[Turt]

Whatever. I'm over it. Cuz it's like bringing the kids so much joy and we're like learning about,

[Jackie]

you know, and they're happy. They have sugar water and apparently they don't even want to leave us cuz they have Stockholm syndrome.

[Turt]

Allegedly. That's remains to me.

[Jackie]

Let's see what happens. So far we've had an amazing experience. Cuz also people said when they come out of their cocoons, there's a lot of like red liquid, like blood. So like put a towel down, which I did, and it's been minimal. Blood, squeaky clean. Everyone lived like. I'm sorry. I think we're an amazing habitat. I think we're an amazing habitat.

[Turt]

Oh, you think the clairvoyant energy creates like a really positive womb, like experience.

[Jackie]

No, I meant more so. I think we're like amazing caretakers to these butterflies.

[Turt]

You're saying we a lot when it's literally just Zach.

[Jackie]

Well, I check in on them when I watch you. Did you see my story yesterday? I was filming them.

[Turt]

You only you would literally use them for content. You have.

[Jackie]

No, you don't give them water, you

[Turt]

don't give them sunshine. You literally do nothing. Zach does it all. And you're literally like, a toxic mommy blogger. Okay, Ruby, Frankie. You are Ruby. Frankie.

[Jackie]

Okay, I keep putting the towel down because someone keeps.

[Turt]

Yes, you're obsessed with the towel.

[Jackie]

Like, because I'm, like, scared that it's

[Turt]

of course, a rental.

[Jackie]

Of course, the rental.

[Turt]

One thing about us, like, we're getting our deposit back.

[Jackie]

Yeah, except what'd you do? Not me.

[Turt]

Who?

[Jackie]

Romeo.

[Turt]

Oh, yes, I know. Romeo had a little accident this morning, but we cleaned it right up.

[Jackie]

Yeah, we did.

[Turt]

We come with that red spray. The. The pet spray and Folex. It's gone. Don't even look for it.

[Jackie]

Don't. I actually couldn't find it also. But I was going to say, speaking of being in a rental, I'm watching more off campus and I just want to update you guys on my thoughts because I'm so locked in. This show is very serious.

[Turt]

I know.

[Jackie]

It's very deep.

[Turt]

I told you, Thanksgiving takes a turn.

[Jackie]

No, not even Thanksgiving. Delaney. That from St. Andrews.

[Turt]

Oh, I was like, wait, what did I miss? I know. Wait, which part did you get to.

[Jackie]

So he just, like, spoiler alert. Even though everyone watches. Two months ago, got suspended four games. And wasn't that the best scene ever? And, no, it made me sick. Okay.

[Turt]

I loved that scene when he, like, figured it out in the moment, dropped the stick and just beat the shit out of him. No, except I had one issue.

[Jackie]

That was not justice.

[Turt]

Why, because he's your ass beat?

[Jackie]

Yeah, but that's what Delaney wanted to throw him. Win the game.

[Turt]

Well, yes.

[Jackie]

He loses the game. Loses four games. Now he's gonna be. Now they lost one of their games.

[Turt]

Yeah.

[Jackie]

It lost Hannah. That was not justice. And that didn't make Hannah happy. And I just. That made me so mad. And that guy is such a disgusting devil. Yeah, Devil.

[Turt]

So I only had one issue with the scene, like, the whole show. I thought Garag Graham was, like, so hot. I loved him. Like, everything he did, I was like, yes. Like, that's my king right there. But when he's in slow motion getting escorted off the ice and she's standing by the, like, locker room gate, like, girl, why are you standing there, first of all?

[Jackie]

And, yeah, I was thinking, like, that just stand that long.

[Turt]

That just gave me the ick, too. Like, I didn't like that. Like, the way he was walking and then she saw him. I just. Like, that was the one seat of the whole show. Like, I actually really didn't. Like, just that one tiny thing.

[Jackie]

I really. I mean, of Course made me feel things, but that was not justice. That's not how I wanted to go down now, of course, like, and I was wondering, is she going to tell him before the game? That could throw him before the game. And it's also, like, not just about the game.

[Turt]

No, of course.

[Jackie]

But like I said, I almost wish, like, she would have told him so he could have, like, not react. Of course. He could have prepared. He could have taken it out on him in, like, a way that sanctioned. Because they can beat each other up, I guess, as long as you're holding your stick. Yeah, right.

[Turt]

No, but he, like, totally, like, loves off.

[Jackie]

Literally, like, he could have held his stick and beat him up with the stick.

[Turt]

Yeah.

[Jackie]

So that was frustrating. But the show is, like, very gripping. It's not even, like a sex show. I feel like it was totally not mismarketed.

[Turt]

There's, like, three sex scenes, and even,

[Jackie]

like, Dean and Allie, who are obviously the nude members of the cast when they have their sex scenes. Like, it's not a porno. You actually don't, like, see private parts,

[Turt]

a lot of genitalia.

[Jackie]

And then they, like, they threw in the locker room penises, you know, for TikTok and whatnot.

[Turt]

And, like, to be equal, because we saw boobs, like, so we have to see penises.

[Jackie]

But I'm just. I'm very gripped. And I do now, like, love Garrett and Hannah.

[Turt]

That scene, parking lot, was devastating.

[Jackie]

I'm sick that they're not together. But I know earlier in my recaps, I said, I don't love them the way I love Ellen Miles. I love them now. I really do. And I'm sick they're not together. Oh, my God. And, like, when they wrote the character of her mother, they just decided to make the best woman ever.

[Turt]

Oh, my God. I got, like, really choked up during that scene. A lot of people made fun. There was, like, a phone. Yeah. There were a lot of, like, memes, like, why was she wearing the helmet? Like, the helmet. And, like, people made all these graphics because, like, she wears the helmet the whole scene, and it's, like, kind of big. So people just started, like, recreating the scene, but, like, they had AI make the helmet, like, two times bigger.

[Jackie]

I thought that was so.

[Turt]

Yes, exactly. Was so well written. Yeah. They hired an angel to play her

[Jackie]

mother, and then they hired an angel to write for her.

[Turt]

I. I got really choked up. Like, it was just, like, you realize this girl has, like, the weight of the world on her shoulders, like, for what?

[Jackie]

Yeah.

[Turt]

And, yeah, I agree I'm so that scene was, like, really beautiful.

[Jackie]

No. And just always like, her mom is just we. When she's on the FaceTime. Like, she. They just decided to write, like, it

[Turt]

was really like a love letter to mothers.

[Jackie]

Like, the most wonderful character.

[Turt]

I totally agree.

[Jackie]

So we met her.

[Turt]

How many more episodes do you have?

[Jackie]

I have no idea.

[Turt]

Okay.

[Jackie]

I need my. My gang to get back together. Also, Joanna Maxwell.

[Turt]

Oh, yeah, the actor.

[Jackie]

Like, giving the worst advice. Like, I don't know if we were meant to, like, in that moment be like, yeah, the advice is good, but it just shows how much Ali actually likes Dean, that she's not, like, going to move on so quickly and have meaningless sex. But I'm like, if you're watching that scene, like, just know that that's the worst advice.

[Turt]

It's true.

[Jackie]

Like, to go and have meaningless sex for. Because you're in college should. And just, like, just to get. Just to prove that you're not hung up on this next guy that you're seeing after your boyfriend. Like, no. You've been over your boyfriend for a really long time. You've been ready for something new. Sure. You also don't can't be alone. But you know what? Plenty of girls can't.

[Turt]

And you know what? We're fine. We are fine.

[Jackie]

Claudia can't be alone.

[Turt]

I cannot be alone.

[Jackie]

It's true. You've never been alone.

[Turt]

And I, like, never want to be.

[Jackie]

Right.

[Turt]

It is like my big. My biggest fear is being alone.

[Jackie]

And you're very high functioning. Kind of only like, unless, like, Ben's golfing.

[Turt]

Yeah, I'm really high functioning for most things. Things.

[Jackie]

Yeah.

[Turt]

Except, like, I can't get, like, any meals. Like, if Ben's golfing all day. Like, I just snack all day. Like, I don't make meals.

[Jackie]

Okay, that's fine.

[Turt]

Yeah.

[Jackie]

Plenty of people snack all day and they don't have a good reason.

[Turt]

Yeah, right, Right.

[Jackie]

Personal chef.

[Turt]

I also snack all day, like, when he's there, but I also have meals. Yeah, yeah, I'm pretty high functioning. I agree.

[Jackie]

So, like, it's not the worst thing. And so you found your perfect person a week after you broke up with. Not even 48 hours right after you broke up with your boyfriend. Like, you can't plan things.

[Turt]

Man plans.

[Jackie]

God laughs. So, like, she's so hard on herself. Like, just let yourself be with Dean. I just thought that was the wor. Worst advice. And I was just wondering, like, when the writers wrote that, is it, like, let's give her great advice and she doesn't take it or, like, let's make this the worst person ever.

[Turt]

Yeah. I don't remember if that Joanna character was in the book. Like, so inconsequential and, like, so random,

[Jackie]

but it was, like, fun. That hockey player. The who's Joanna's brother who drove home.

[Turt]

Yeah.

[Jackie]

Like, I like him too.

[Turt]

Me too.

[Jackie]

He's like a bridge.

[Turt]

Is he gay? Like, are we supposed to believe that he's gay?

[Jackie]

His sister just is in the theater. Okay.

[Turt]

Okay.

[Jackie]

Oh, right.

[Turt]

And he just, like, knows theater because of that.

[Jackie]

Oh, yeah. And, like, so he's like, a nice bridge between, like, Ally and hockey. And I like the role that he serves.

[Turt]

Yeah. Well, I'm so glad you're loving it.

[Jackie]

I'm really loving it. And I guess I wish I watched it when everyone did so that, like, people would care about what I have to say now. But I'm sorry, I'm here now. Listen, I'll try not to do it again.

[Turt]

It's not about the journey, it's about the destination.

[Jackie]

For so long, we were like, Wijaki. Like, it was Jackie now, like, what about this would you think I wouldn't?

[Turt]

Like, That's a good question. I think that is not that sexual. But I don't know why. We just, like, because it's. The book is very porny, so we just consider it, like, a porny show. Even though it's, like, literally not compared

[Jackie]

to, like, some of the sensitized now.

[Turt]

Yeah. But I do think that, like, when things are overtly and really unnecessarily graphic in terms of, like, nudity and sexuality, that is a turn off for you. But I guess in hindsight, like, this book has a reputation for being porny, but it's really not. As a TV show, there's not a lot of porn. It is, like, a little silly, you know, Fake boyfriend. Like, that was your first.

[Jackie]

Yes. But we moved on. It's a little unserious rather quickly and, like, literally just threw Justin Guarini in the garbage after using him.

[Turt]

Yellow. Yellow.

[Jackie]

You know what I hadn't gotten to? When you said, have you gotten to Yellow Haze? I just assumed that was, like, one of his songs. I hadn't gotten to it, and now I know it's a bad song. Yeah, it was. But it's like, it's not bad. It's just not good.

[Turt]

It's Justin's and it's.

[Jackie]

He was right to say, like, you don't like it because you didn't write it and you don't know what it means because you didn't write it and you don't share. But, like, I like it and I'm proud of it.

[Turt]

Now that you, like, understand Garrett Graham, like, what do you think is next for him in terms. Because the next season, like, he's in, but he's not a star. He is going to be, you know, huge. But, like, what would be the right next gig for him?

[Jackie]

I think he should do, like, more heartthrob stuff and like, not.

[Turt]

He should lean in.

[Jackie]

He doesn't need to switch lanes, like, so quickly. But it's hard to, like, once you get the biggest show of the year, like, to find the next big thing.

[Turt]

100.

[Jackie]

He needs a good agent. He does need a good agent and a manager.

[Turt]

He is dating his girlfriend, like, the same girlfriend since before he was famous. She's a writer. Not on this show. Just like a TV writer. And they were both like, up and comers and they're stuck together.

[Jackie]

That's good. Yeah, that's good. He needs to stay grounded. Like you could.

[Turt]

Absolutely, absolutely.

[Jackie]

With your head getting so big.

[Turt]

Yeah.

[Jackie]

I'm just like, I'm really like, remember when Jacob Elordi.

[Turt]

And obviously everything worked out for Jacob Elordi, so I'm not criticizing his choices, but, like, when he was in the kissing booth, he was like this teen heartthrob and he sort of ran from that. He never did another movie like that again. Whereas, like, Noah Centennial really leaned into that, like, young adult heartthrob almost too much.

[Jackie]

But he never did a dead end. Yeah, correct. And so it also reminds me of, like, Reg a John. Like, you had this one show that was. Was huge. You were the star the next season. Like, you could be on, but you're not going to be the star. So what are you going to do next?

[Turt]

Yeah, but Garag Graham is confirmed filming. Ray Jean left the building.

[Jackie]

Right, right, right. No, but. But this show isn't going to be, like, he should stay on out of respect and, like, because why not literally.

[Turt]

But he needs to line something up, though. I'm very curious, like, what his strategy is.

[Jackie]

Yeah.

[Turt]

Because I think Jacob Elordi is like one in a million. Like, he became the biggest actor of his time and that's great. But, like, I don't think that happens to most people.

[Jackie]

No. And it definitely was strategic, you know?

[Turt]

Yeah. Noah Centennial, like, like, it was good until it wasn't.

[Jackie]

Yeah.

[Turt]

But those movies were so popular. Like, Netflix just kept churning out. Remember the way one about tall girls? What about short girls?

[Jackie]

That's her favorite one. And the best part is that Sabrina Carpenter's in it as the short.

[Turt]

As a short friend. Yeah.

[Jackie]

This is like, we could.

[Turt]

We writes like an AI generated movie from our brain. What are the stories today?

[Jackie]

Oh, you know, bits and bobs. Like, nothing major, but, like, a lot of stuff that we like, talking about, you know, like, not breaking news, but, like, we will enjoy ourselves.

[Turt]

Yeah, it.

[Jackie]

I feel like that feels. That feels like how I would describe it. Oh. And then I guess the headline is that I'm wearing a dress on the show.

[Turt]

You know what's so funny? I was just about to bring it up because it looks so great.

[Jackie]

That's the only other thing that's, like, worth mentioning today.

[Turt]

Jackie and I are just sort of like, breaking down over here when it comes to what to wear on the toast. Like, obviously it's summer. We have so many cute, like, outfits. A lot of them are ineligible for the toast because, like, we're on camera, we're in these chairs. Like, I'm sitting cross legged. So, like, a lot of our shorts, a lot of our minis, like, it's just not.

[Jackie]

We don't want to wear, like, shorts or, like, mid dresses on the show because I just don't think I'm gonna like how I look. Like the chair.

[Turt]

You're coochie.

[Jackie]

Move around, right?

[Turt]

Yeah.

[Jackie]

So I literally put on shorts today because I'm sick. I don't want to wear pants again.

[Turt]

I feel like I've worn this outfit three times.

[Jackie]

I keep wearing, like, the same thing, and I just like, I don't want to wear it today. So I put on shorts, and then I'm like, I know I'm not gonna like that, but what if I wore a nap dress? Because it still goes all the way to the floor and, like, it's just a little something different. So I just wanted to, like, see how it goes, you know, put a

[Turt]

little blue in my hair for the Teen Vogue party.

[Jackie]

Is that a tic tac?

[Turt]

It's like a viral interview from Selena Gomez. Like, when she's, like, 11, they asked. She has, like, blue streaks in her hair. She's like, I just wanted to do something different for, like, the Teen Vogue party.

[Jackie]

That's how I feel today.

[Turt]

That's what you say when you're, like, being crazy.

[Jackie]

Okay, I'm being crazy. Plus, I like doing a bunch of stuff after this. And I was like, I don't really want to be wearing, like, pants and a sweater. And let's see how it goes. I actually don't think it's going to be that crazy considering like the dress covers everything.

[Turt]

And as of this morning, like we will have two blankets here tomorrow. And we've decide, or at least I've decided, like I'm going to be wearing my shorts. Cuz I have like a bunch of really cute sets that are shorts and T shirts and I'll be wearing them with a blanket. So if you see me like sweating my ass off cuz I'm under a blanket, don't ask questions.

[Jackie]

And I do also see a lot of comments like, you guys, it's summer. Like aren't you warm in your outfits? And it's like, no. The studio is like temperature. But it's like, it's just not what I want to be putting on in the morning and then like leaving here in. So work with us. Okay? We're like going through a period of growth. Like.

[Turt]

And don't be like, count how many times somebody wore one shirt.

[Jackie]

No, don't be counting.

[Turt]

We're working with limited wardrobe. Like we didn't pack our whole closets. I packed a suitcase.

[Jackie]

Like and I didn't know what were going to be like the things I want to wear every day. We're sort of like butterflies coming out of our cocoons.

[Turt]

That's beautiful.

[Jackie]

So like watch this space or don't like or. Or listen to this space. Yes. Without further ado to do. To do, here are the fast five stories that you do need to know.

[Turt]

And we are so excited because today's episode is brought to you by Spindrift tea, which we are actually both drinking here. I got the peach. So good. We drank spindrift tea.

[Jackie]

I got the lemon.

[Turt]

I love all their drinks. They have a new tea which we'll tell you about today.

[Jackie]

And you know, I love tea in the summer.

[Turt]

I know, in the summer, yes. But also like tea is just such a good option. You know what I mean?

[Jackie]

Yes. Yes it is.

[Turt]

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[Jackie]

They don't. And it's like you want something exciting

[Turt]

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[Jackie]

I have the iced tea lemon.

[Turt]

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[Jackie]

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[Turt]

Always looking for like drinks.

[Jackie]

Yeah, something with a little personality.

[Turt]

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[Jackie]

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[Turt]

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[Jackie]

Our first story. More wedding bells. Emma Roberts.

[Turt]

Oh, my God, this was like such a shock.

[Jackie]

Married actor Cody John in lavish Idaho wedding. So Emma Roberts married her fiance, yes, Cody John, in front of their close friends and family at a romantic ceremony in Sun Valley, Idaho on Saturday. After four years of dating, close friends and family were in attendance for the couple's special day, including of course, her famous auntie Julia Roberts.

[Turt]

Oh, yeah, Julia Roberts. Okay. Like slay mama. Didn't know that you even had a boyfriend, but I feel like we knew

[Jackie]

that she had a boyfriend, but I just didn't know that like, marriage was in her future.

[Turt]

Yeah, I mean, for some of us, like, we are still at the restaurant, of course. Like her and Garrett Headlund might. And like, I feel like Garrett Headland is not famous. Like he was in Country Strong, my favorite movie. I don't think a lot of people say that. Georgia Rule. Georgia Rule, your other favorite movie. And then like never was seen or heard from again. And randomly like dated Emma Roberts for a while. They had a child together. I do believe the relationship was like hella toxic.

[Jackie]

Yeah. Like they hate each other. It's really bad.

[Turt]

It's like a hard co parenting relationship. So I don't ship whatsoever. But like, that was just like a happy time for me.

[Jackie]

Yeah, I'm glad you were having fun because I don't know that they were having much.

[Turt]

Yeah.

[Jackie]

And she seems really happy. And I mean, four years dating someone in Hollywood, that's a long time. And then the commitment of marriage, like, is a big deal.

[Turt]

Yeah. She also had like a very, like, people are obsessed. When people think of Emma Roberts relationships, they're obsessed with her and Evan Peters.

[Jackie]

Right.

[Turt]

The guy from Sleepover.

[Jackie]

Right.

[Turt]

For me, like, that's not my thing. My thing is Garrett Headland, but like, I understand why people are obsessed with them too.

[Jackie]

My thing is Emma Ross Roberts.

[Turt]

She just is that girl.

[Jackie]

Yeah, she really is. Like everything she touches, like, turns to

[Turt]

gold and she really, like, is that girl for like women our age.

[Jackie]

Yes, for women of a certain age.

[Turt]

Yeah. She kind of is, like, means everything to us.

[Jackie]

Yeah. Unfabulous.

[Turt]

Tell me Lies.

[Jackie]

Like, Unfabulous wasn't even like the number one show at the time. She was, you know, in this slug with like a lot of girls like Selena and Miley and like, she actually emerged the most normal, well, successful one.

[Turt]

So I think the way we feel about Emma Roberts is how a lot of people feel about Hillary Dunn. Duff, like, was your fave growing Up. Grew up to be so normal. Continues to, like, put out sleigh work. Younger. And all of her recent projects and her music. I don't, like, have that for Hillary Duff, obviously. I have, like, my own personal issues with her, but that's how I feel about Emma Roberts. Like, she's literally never once let me down, even when I feel that she probably had, like, a. I guess she. I don't know when it was, but she definitely had, like, a Miley Cyrus and her Dead Pets era.

[Jackie]

You know, not dead.

[Guest]

No.

[Jackie]

But maybe like, a bangers era when you're a teenager. Yes. Bangers.

[Turt]

You always have, like, a troubled youth era. She never let me down.

[Jackie]

Yeah. No. And she's, like, so stylish.

[Turt]

Scream queens.

[Jackie]

Then she's, like, funny and she reads. Yeah. And she's just. The whole package.

[Turt]

It's true. So she wore Monique Lulier.

[Jackie]

The whole package. Decided to get married. Like, that's a big deal. Totally makes him the whole package as well.

[Turt]

And I don't know if she's ever been married. Garrett were not.

[Jackie]

No. I didn't really know, like, we were gonna get married. Married. Yeah.

[Turt]

No, me neither. I didn't know this was an option.

[Jackie]

Yeah. I just. Very excited to be engaged and.

[Turt]

Yeah.

[Jackie]

And be partners.

[Turt]

And her and Julia, like, they're classic Nepo peeps. But I never, like. I don't know. I feel like maybe at one time I would have thought that they were, like, on the outs. They, like, don't really interact.

[Jackie]

Yeah. But so it's nice to know it's her auntie.

[Turt]

Right. It's not like her mom.

[Jackie]

Her auntie and I. I didn't realize, like, Julia Roberts is a famous auntie. You know, a role model.

[Turt]

She joins a long line.

[Jackie]

A role model for women like us.

[Turt]

Who else is a famous auntie? The Kardashians are all aunties to one another.

[Jackie]

Yeah. And they're, like. They're proud.

[Turt]

They take it seriously.

[Jackie]

And a lot of people are aunties. I guess Chelsea Handler is an anti.

[Turt]

Absolutely scary one.

[Jackie]

That thing is so funny.

[Turt]

Yeah. Actually, I came across my Instagram again, and I was reading the comments. She was responding to a lot of people.

[Jackie]

Okay.

[Turt]

People had a lot of thoughts on it, but both have gotten more clarity. Well, someone was like, well, I agree with everything you're saying, but, like, why are you sharing this?

[Jackie]

Yeah.

[Turt]

And she said that she had written this up and shared it with a bunch of her friends and, you know, personally shared it. And apparently it went, like, mega viral. That, like, it started, like, you know, being made into graphics and stuff on Instagram and people not attributing it to her. That's why it had her, like, logo in it this time. Remember you were saying it had, like. So she just, like, wanted to, like, get credit for it. I don't know.

[Jackie]

Worse. Yeah.

[Turt]

It was a really weird story.

[Jackie]

It's not like she's like, you know, a burgeoning creator.

[Turt]

Correct. Credit.

[Jackie]

Like, sometimes when things go viral beyond you, like, that's a good thing.

[Turt]

That happens to me sometimes. Yeah, it's happened to us. You know, like, almost all of our viral sounds like are not attributed to us.

[Jackie]

Yeah, but that's good. Like, great, go live on that means

[Turt]

it's like, it's that big.

[Jackie]

That's why we do what we do.

[Turt]

It's true. We don't do it for the credit, you guys.

[Jackie]

Oh, my gosh. No, no.

[Turt]

Oh, Tag us toastpodcast.

[Jackie]

That thing is just so weird.

[Turt]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Jackie]

Well, mazel tov to the. To the John Robertses.

[Turt]

Mazel tov. Do you think she's gonna change her name? Emma. John Roberts.

[Jackie]

Emma Roberts. John. No. Emma Roberts. That's two man's last names.

[Turt]

Yeah, it's true.

[Jackie]

No, no. Emma Roberts. Are you ready for our next story? I am. An update in our leading story of the year, Chelsea Handler Nick Van Steenberg speaks out after Nicolandrea splints.

[Turt]

I'm so glad we're talking about the paywall statement.

[Jackie]

Yes. So Nick of Nickelandria is addressing Nick

[Turt]

of Nickelandria fame is Nick.

[Jackie]

Alandria is addressing his split. Nick in Nickelandria is addressing his split from Alandria. So we reported last week that Nickelandria is done. But neither of them had said anything about the split, except for Alandria saying that she's suing Dumuazima Demoximo. So he posted a statement on his subscribers only TikTok.

[Turt]

Oh, TikTok. I didn't even know you could have subscribers. Only TikTok.

[Jackie]

Apparently you can.

[Turt]

Yeah.

[Jackie]

Okay. And there are people subscribed to Nick Van Stenberg.

[Turt]

Okay.

[Jackie]

He said the rumors are true.

[Turt]

I deleted my Alandria. Title.

[Jackie]

We love see if we can get Nick in the title all.

[Turt]

I love that idea. Yes, the room is sure at deleted alleged.

[Jackie]

I'm sure this podcast is such a

[Turt]

thorn in their side. You know what I mean? Like, we don't let up. We don't let up. And I know because we had posted some clips and, like, people think that we're coming from a hateful place. Like, when I tell you, no. 2 people have been bigger supporters of Alandra since day one. Like, we were in the trenches watching wanting better for her. Like, you all were, like, wanting her and Taylor together. We wanted better for her. We didn't even want Jaylen.

[Jackie]

Yeah.

[Turt]

Right. So it's like, we have been her biggest fans and, like, almost just wanting better for her than she wants for herself.

[Jackie]

Yeah.

[Turt]

So I know a lot of people think we come from a hateful place, but you have no idea, like, how deep in this we are. But, yes, they definitely send our clips back and forth to each other and be like, man. Because the thing is, we have been on to them from the very first.

[Jackie]

Yeah. I feel like a lot of people have, like, their podcast or something who just, like, hate them, you know?

[Turt]

And, yeah, we're not haters at all.

[Jackie]

No. But I feel like that's what they think we are.

[Turt]

Right.

[Jackie]

Maybe Nick, like, and his publicist, like, send our clips around, like, what are we going to do about these two? Right.

[Turt]

You know that New York Times interview that we were talking about being loved out loud? I actually saw another clip from it that did not go viral at the time. That absolutely should have, because bring it up. They were talking about. Well, actually, she was just saying. He didn't even say anything the whole interview. He's just looking at her being like, what are you talking about? She was basically saying that there's they still weren't boyfriend and girlfriend and nobody thought to make that go viral. And we should talk about that. Well, why wouldn't you, a year later, be boyfriend and girlfriend? Oh, because you are fake, right?

[Jackie]

Because you're just exploring the connection.

[Turt]

That's really weird. She just said that out loud. Like, not even, like, a secret. It.

[Jackie]

That's insane.

[Turt]

That's insane. And that's why their statement was so vague. Because you can't break up. Everything's been intentional.

[Jackie]

And it's like, I guess if you go back and look at everything, like, I don't think she has told a lie.

[Turt]

Right. It's just manipulated language.

[Jackie]

You guys just, like, didn't believe her.

[Turt]

Right.

[Jackie]

Even when she. When asked a cup, like, two months ago or a month ago by Cosmo, I think, like, what do you have to say to the people? Fans don't, like, believe it. And she, like, her statement was that of someone who's not in a real relationship.

[Turt]

It's just true.

[Jackie]

It's like, I just don't know why people would care, like, if I'm with him at Coachella or not. Like, I'M just not on the Internet like that.

[Turt]

Yeah. And it's like, you went on Love Island.

[Jackie]

No. And it's like, are you together?

[Turt]

Right. Yes or no? Not that I needed any more proof that this was fake, but, like, Nick putting his big statement behind a paywall,

[Jackie]

like, okay, he said the room. Now we can get back to the statement.

[Turt]

The rumors are true. Yeah. Deleted. Alandria, are you okay?

[Guest]

Oh,

[Jackie]

Whatever. His statement is just not gonna be better.

[Turt]

Of course not.

[Jackie]

The rumors are true. I didn't want to give people false hope, so I want to clear the air. We will continue to love each other always. It's a sensitive as well as a private subject. Thank you for respecting our privacy.

[Turt]

Well, don't get too ahead of yourself thanking us, because we're not going to.

[Jackie]

And also, like, in this statement, there's no, we didn't break up. There's no mention of Alandria. So here's the thing. Two business people. I didn't want to give false hope that we, like, fell out of business

[Turt]

together, like I've been doing for the last year.

[Jackie]

So I want to clear the air. We will continue to love each other always. I would say that about anyone.

[Turt]

A business partner. Yeah. That you, like, worked with for a whole year.

[Jackie]

It's a sensitive as well as a private subject. Thank you for respecting our privacy. Said nothing.

[Turt]

Yeah, said nothing.

[Jackie]

Said nothing. And they've been saying nothing. And it's true. You guys have missed that. Even in the last episodes of Love island, they just kept talking about, like, their connection and their friendship, and people took that as, like, they love each other when that's never what they said.

[Turt]

Yeah, it's like a friendship breakup. That's really more what it is.

[Jackie]

Yeah. And then he wrote in the caption on why he did it. Subscribers only. He said, I wanted to do it on here because you guys are our biggest supporters.

[Turt]

Do what? You're acting like you gave people, like, some great gifts.

[Jackie]

Confirmed.

[Turt]

But, like, it was confirmed. Your reps spoke to people. Like, yeah, I wasn't waiting to see whether this was true or not. Like, it's.

[Jackie]

I guess, like, there were a couple of, like.

[Turt]

Well, like, the true Nickelandria diehards, like, refused. Like, Club Alandria, Club Nickelandria. They refuse to believe that this is true.

[Jackie]

Yeah. I'm still laughing from the tweet I showed you last week that I really thought was true.

[Turt]

Right. But, like. But there are people who do think that.

[Jackie]

Yeah. So confirmed. They've split. But I wonder, like, what will come out Next. Because it's like, it's. It's not good.

[Turt]

It's not.

[Jackie]

And I really didn't see this happening like that for her. Yeah.

[Turt]

Yeah.

[Jackie]

At least while they were together, it's like, okay, well, you're continuing the lies, right?

[Turt]

We can't really say anything. You haven't proved us right. No.

[Jackie]

And it's like, when you have a scheme, it's like, while you're scheming, everything's fine. It's until you're found out.

[Turt]

Right. Consider. Consider you found.

[Jackie]

Consider yourselves found.

[Turt]

Yeah.

[Jackie]

Also, like, a little follow up. Love island news. Melanie and sincere.

[Turt]

I saw. That's really unfortunate because, like, all signs were pointing to her having, like, woken up.

[Jackie]

Yeah.

[Turt]

But she's still sleeping. And personally, like, with the islanders, like, you're no longer my problem. So, like, if you want to be dumb girl, like, I support it, like, go, because I don't have to watch it anymore. You know, at a certain point, I had to watch it. And so I. I needed you to start making good decisions because I was being forced to watch now that I'm not, like, seriously, I don't give a. What you freaks do. Have fun.

[Jackie]

Done. Yeah. Also, I needed them to break up on the show.

[Turt]

Correct.

[Jackie]

If they even broke up the day after they get home. I don't care if they break up next week. I don't care. There are all these brands being like, melanie, if you leave him, we'll give you, you know, tickets for life that should only have applied on the show.

[Turt]

Agreed. Oh, yeah.

[Jackie]

Like, oh, you broke up with your officer boyfriend. I don't care.

[Turt]

Welcome to the club. I do believe those offers are no longer valid.

[Jackie]

Yeah. I just hope that, like, there's not gonna be a big celebration when they do break up, because, like, the test, you failed. You failed the test, failed the course.

[Turt]

Yeah. And again, like, not my. These are no longer my monkeys. This is not my circus.

[Jackie]

Yeah.

[Turt]

I'm. Personally, I'm out. I tried to help you guys at the time. Nobody wanted to listen to me.

[Jackie]

I also don't think there's really anything from the season that she would have seen that was, like, worse than how she felt in the villa. Like, there wasn't, like, a big smoking gun. Like, I feel like movie night packaged it up as bad as you possibly could to the point of, like. Like, beloved. Beloved. Like, they actually edited it not to make it worse, but, like, punch you in the face with it, and it

[Turt]

really did not move the needle at all. So.

[Jackie]

So nothing she watched in the season and she hears all the good stuff that's sincere. She sees the good instances when he saw his confessionals. You know how she. She is the epitome of beauty in class. Of course. So I. I don't think watching the season really changed anything for her. And he's not in the doghouse more so than he was. No, no. She.

[Turt]

She's just gonna have to, like, learn the hard way.

[Jackie]

If anything, she'll see how he struggled between her and Sol and her and Amora.

[Turt]

Yeah. And I think, like, when they first get out, it's like, super easy to be happy. Like, everyone loves you and it's just also exciting. But that does die down. And at a certain point, you're just, like, left with the person. And I think that's when, like, he'll get into trouble because he is, like, a philanderer and he is a bad guy and he has access to now all these people. Yeah. So it's only a matter of time. And I. I don't want to be right, but, like, I am.

[Jackie]

And it's not gonna be like, go, Melanie. Like, whenever she does do it, like, you fail the test. Not for me. I mean, the world will probably Internet,

[Turt]

like, love, celebrate a woman getting out of a bad relationship. I do too, of course. But, like, I do also hold space for, like, you know, you making those bad decisions. Arianimatics. Like, yeah, we knew he was bad. You were with him for 10 years, like, fighting for. For him and telling everyone how wrong we were. And it's like, yeah, we turned out to be right. And it's like, I'm so glad you're out of that, of course. But, like, let's hold space for the accountability.

[Jackie]

Yeah. Especially when, like, you get to see

[Turt]

it on a plate out in tv. Yeah.

[Jackie]

Television show. What this person said did when you weren't looking, like, same.

[Turt]

That was like. I mean, it was gonna be like, Amanda's fate, but obviously things changed on a dime for her. But, like, everyone was like, she's free, she's free. I'm like, she's free from self imposed prison. Like, she chose this person. He cheated on her before they got married. They decided to get married. They're fighting all the way up to the wedding. None of this was new information.

[Jackie]

Right.

[Turt]

So it's like, I don't really, like, feel bad for you. Like, oh, no. It's the consequences of your own actions. Okay. Like, sometimes you get in situations that, like, seriously are terrible and you get, like, bamboozled. Yeah. That's just not what happened with like Arianomatics or

[Jackie]

Amanda? Amanda, Yeah.

[Turt]

I don't know if you saw like Wes is like, is like starting stuff.

[Jackie]

He said what you sent, but there wasn't a DNS.

[Turt]

I'm sorry, I. I obviously tried to DNS, but like, can I see it if I don't DNS? Well, let me just tell you. So you know that he hosts a podcast with a WNBA star who like, up until recently I wasn't familiar with.

[Jackie]

Oh, she's like one of the big ones. So.

[Turt]

Yeah, one of the big ones of the wnba.

[Jackie]

Yes.

[Turt]

Her name is Sophie Cunningham.

[Jackie]

Yes.

[Turt]

And like in the last week, she's actually, actually like gone mega viral within the WNBA because she spoke out on the issue of trans athletes and she, you know, said something that most people don't say, which is that like it directly impacts us. I don't think it's fair. And like she keeps getting asked about it.

[Jackie]

Of trans women in women's sports specifically.

[Turt]

She said, she just said her piece and then she keeps getting asked about it. She's like, I said what? I said like she's not backtracking on it. And it went super viral over the weekend. And. And then west, like, this is his podcast host. West made a TikTok just basically being like, you know, this is not a real issue, poses a threat to nobody. And just like, yeah, kind of, you know, like echoing a lot of the popular like woke theory theses on trans

[Jackie]

women that trans women are a threat to. No, like, this is a non issue. It's not like Sophie's saying that.

[Turt]

No, no. Wes was just basically directly contradicting her. Her. I'll play it for you.

[Jackie]

Sharing his thoughts about trans women.

[Turt]

Yeah. And just basically disregarding it. Like, this is not an issue. You're all crying about nothing. Like. Okay, you're ready.

[Guest]

Okay.

[Turt]

Oh, wait, sorry.

[Guest]

Okay. Transgender athletes.

[Jackie]

Wait, start again, start again.

[Guest]

Okay. Transgender athletes in American sports is such a borderline non existent issue that right wingers have convinced a massive portion of people in our country that it. That these people are like a threat to sports in America when like, mathematically that's not the case at all. And by continuing to platform this, politicians, athletes, journalists, news outlets, you're only isolating transgender people even more by making them seem like this giant group of people is a threat to society, a threat to sports, when that's just not proportionately the truth in any capacity. There is like 10 transgender athletes in all of the NCAA. And so I think there are unique questions that can be handled on individual basis, but to allow this to take our attention away from like, housing and health care and wars and all the other. Oh, that's always actual harmful in our country is done.

[Jackie]

Like, we can't have another conversation because of housing and healthcare.

[Turt]

Now it's been very interesting because west has always really been this like a very, like, woke Bravo star. And he's like, always really, like, pushing very like, pro female messaging. And I think that he thinks that that is like sort of a. Not a get out of jail free card, but like just a way to usher goodwill with the Bravo universe. Let me tell you, the comments were eating him up. I did not see one positive comment. And also, it's like, you're obviously directing this at your co host who, like, has a thought and it's like, well, why don't you have the conversation on your podcast? Like, what's with you coming? No, first of all, no one was waiting for you to give your opinion on this.

[Jackie]

But I think he doesn't want to go down with her and he doesn't like, if.

[Turt]

Well, it's like she. I'm sure she didn't want to go down with him, right? And she sat on her podcast listening to him talk about falling in love with Amanda and, you know, did ask the heart have this conversation on the podcast.

[Jackie]

Leave us the out of it conversation on the podcast. But it's really crazy because I think this is a. A topic where like, where wires get crossed, like woke wires. Because it's like a women's issue, right? And you're a man, like, you shouldn't speak. We're talking about in women's sports. It's not really an issue in males, men's sports. So, like, if you're a man, why are you going to tell the woman what she should or should not not feel? That's typically like, in the woke world. Not done.

[Turt]

So here are some of the comments.

[Jackie]

Okay.

[Turt]

This is the top one said by a man who has a long history of not caring about women. It doesn't affect you, but it does affect many young women in their experience. West, just stop. Ah, tag her then. Like, yeah, like, leave us out of it. Women have fought hard like people. There is not one person. I think you're diabolical. I think a lot of people, I think he just thought that, like, it's just a kind of like an easy way to curry favor with Bravo fans, which are mostly women, by just like saying what you think is like a, an approved take. But people were like, not literally nothing he says, first of all, like, this is just proof that, like, nothing he could say, like, is gonna make people like him so funny.

[Jackie]

Because, like, Sophie Cunningham, like, is an actual female. Female athlete. Like, this says she is poised to,

[Turt]

like, have an opinion on it whether you like it or not. Like, she's well within her rights. Who the are you?

[Jackie]

Who the are you? And I don't like throwing your co host under the bus when she stood by you when you're the most hated man in America.

[Turt]

I can't tell if. If this is, like, beef. Yeah. He definitely does not want to be aligned.

[Jackie]

No.

[Turt]

And it's like, well, she probably didn't want to be aligned with you either, but, like, co host. Right. For each other. She's allowed to have an opinion. Like, my God, you're so weak.

[Jackie]

Like, yeah. Yeah.

[Turt]

It was really drama.

[Jackie]

Especially because, like, for a while, to

[Turt]

put it together, like, why people cared. And then I realized that the girl I've been seeing go viral for her statements is the podcast host.

[Jackie]

Got it.

[Turt]

Who was asking him about Amanda. Like, I just. I don't. I don't follow wnba. So, like, I wasn't. I didn't know, like, why I was supposed to care. Now I understand.

[Jackie]

And, like, you can host a podcast with someone and where you're, like, different. I think people like. Like that.

[Turt]

Yeah, of course. It's very interesting.

[Jackie]

It's very interesting.

[Turt]

Yeah. It causes good conversation. Like, you know what? They should have this combo.

[Jackie]

And I didn't see her statements, and I guess I didn't really either, but

[Turt]

it was just very much, like, it's not fair, right?

[Jackie]

No, but if I had seen it, would I then have wondered, like, what does west think about.

[Turt]

If you had seen it and also known that this was West's. Yeah, I don't think. I think I would have thought, like, yeah, I don't know.

[Jackie]

Damn. That's hard for him because I know that he really just, like, wants to be on the right side.

[Turt]

He wants to be, like, beloved of Wokeism. Yeah. But, like, truly.

[Jackie]

But this is just proof the belovedness is out the door.

[Turt]

It's just proof that.

[Jackie]

And now he's really far gone. Now you've sort of turned on someone who had your back and you work with and it's giving, you know, like,

[Turt]

Justin Maldonian and the podcast host. Totally. This is like, to me, the big takeaway is, like.

[Jackie]

And if you never.

[Turt]

You're, like, stunting on your co host, by the way, if you have a different opinion than her, amazing. Like, you actually should talk about on the podcast because I don't know what the hell else you guys talk about

[Jackie]

on your podcast though. What's also so weak of him, it's like, is his opinion. He didn't state an opinion, like, of why it's a good thing. He just said it's not a big deal.

[Turt]

Don't worry about something.

[Jackie]

Let's talk about war. Like, if you have a strong opinion and you have facts and you say, want to explain why everyone's overreacting acting, go ahead. But like, that's not an opinion. That's like a missing. Just trying to like, you know, dismiss what she said.

[Turt]

Yeah.

[Jackie]

And what. And what people think. But that's not an actual rebuttal.

[Turt]

No. But like, maybe they'll do it on the podcast. I don't know if they have, like so much to talk about these days. So, like.

[Jackie]

Sure, sure. I'm sad.

[Turt]

Yeah, right.

[Jackie]

I'm sad. If you guys want to go step in it.

[Turt]

This is a sports podcast.

[Jackie]

Oh, yes, it is. Speaking of women's issues, are you ready for our next story? One of our number three.

[Turt]

Yes.

[Jackie]

So you are ready. Paige Lorenz is getting into some Instagram drama.

[Turt]

I am obsessed with this.

[Jackie]

Yeah. So Paige Lorenz woke up and decided to actually and chose.

[Turt]

She chose truth.

[Jackie]

She did choose Truth, but she didn't start it. So a long time. Nantucket Storing. You know, Nantucket is her island where she has her daring boy. She runs that town, this store in Nantucket called Four Winds Craft Guild, which has been in business since 1948. It sells handcrafted baskets, purses, local artwork and carvings according to their website. So, you know, it's just like, like wares and it's. Yeah, it's like historic storied. On Nantucket. On Nantucket. And they posted an Instagram story of their shop and there's a sign at the top, a very like, nice looking, you know, they took time.

[Turt]

Very like live left love hand carved.

[Jackie]

Yeah. Not like we wrote on a sign.

[Turt]

No, it's like it's wood engraved.

[Jackie]

It says no influencers.

[Turt]

It did go viral. So before Paige even commented on it, I had seen this like that the store on. On Nantucket was. It was like, you know, putting their foot down on influencer culture. There was a lot of discourse around it. I obviously like rolled my eyes on at it and moved on with my day. And then I saw this morning that Paige Lorenz had left like a really lengthy comment on it.

[Jackie]

This is what she said. If you call your. And mind you like, she's the queen of Nantucket. She opened her own storefront. She is an influencer who is like, you know, making things happen on the island. Absolutely using her influence. So it does feel like if they're. If who are they talking about here? Paige and the like.

[Turt]

Yeah, I could see, like if Paige took this personally and they're talking. Although I don't know if they were really talking about her. But girls like, the more so the culture she brings to the island.

[Jackie]

She said, if you call yourself a feminist but proudly put up a no influencer sign, it's worth asking who you are attempting to delegitimize and why mocking women when they become powerful in a new industry isn't new. It's just a strange message coming from a store that celebrates a craft with such a rich history of women shaping the island and its economy. Economy. For those who don't know, the creator economy is overwhelmingly driven by women. Brands have shifted billions of dollars into creator marketing because it consistently delivers something traditional advertising can't trust. Community and measurable sales. One woman with a loyal audience can successfully launch a business at a scale that would once have required corporate backing and massive advertising budgets. That's a win. This sign isn't.

[Turt]

Oh, my God. Like, I actually could not have said it better myself. And I feel like that's what I'm always saying.

[Jackie]

That is what you're always saying.

[Turt]

Like, people being obsessed with hating influencers. It's like, sure, we could hate any group of people. You could say influencer. Yes, they do do X, Y and Z. But like this obsession with like the word influencer even becoming like having like a derogatory. Well, it's like you would not come up. There would not be that sort of stereotype if there was a new job that a lot of men were doing. They don't say it really about streamers, even though streamers is all men. Like, it's so true. Like the way that we demonize influence our culture, like, so heavily and it's become like so mainstream. So much so that this person probably thought nothing of putting up this sign. It's because it's a female dominated space. It's a space where literally the only space where women make more money than men. Like, it's just absur always saying that. So, like, for her to just like literally such a slay. I wouldn't change one word. It's like that statement, that sign is dumb for a lot of reasons. Because one, it definitely is like a little bit of a nudge to Paige Lorenz, who was, like, one of the premier Nantucket influencers now. And I think that, like, a lot of people come to the island for her, and her store every day has a line around the corner, which is, like, you know, for a small town, it's, like, kind of annoying. You know, locals, even in the Hamptons, they hate when, like, things go viral because it makes it, like, loud and busy in traffic. And Justin. But she's, like, contributing to the local economy, and she, like, I. I could see why she maybe thought this was about her, but even if it's not, it's such a derogatory.

[Jackie]

It's, like, standing up for women, I guess. Like, I can't go to the store. Yeah, no, it's just like, I guess I can't go to the store. I'm an influencer, and I just feel like, in general, I can go to the store. So she's standing up for me.

[Turt]

Yeah.

[Jackie]

So that I could go. But in general, if you have a store or a business and you have a sign that says no blank about a group of human beings, unless it says, like, no risk rapists.

[Turt]

Right.

[Jackie]

You're wrong.

[Guest]

Yeah.

[Jackie]

No.

[Turt]

Unless it says, like, no dogs. Like, no human beings.

[Jackie]

A group of human beings.

[Turt]

It's discrimination. It's crazy to be, like, not allowed to wear because of your job.

[Jackie]

Like, it's discrimination. So unless it says no criminals. Yeah. No influencers.

[Turt]

And what's funny is that, like, before Paige, like, people were really, like, praising this. Like, they thought it was funny. And it's like, yeah, like, influencer culture. And it's like, we need to look inward as to why we think, like, first of all, this is a totally acceptable.

[Jackie]

I can't believe I can't go to store.

[Turt]

I know. And you don't even want to go,

[Jackie]

I'm going to Dairy Boy, especially.

[Turt]

Because what she's saying is that, like, it's craft store, and craft is, like, so feet feminine. And it's like, so, like, so is influencer culture, like, there. I think a lot of girls dreams these days is to, like, grow up and become an influencer. And it's just, like, it's so lame.

[Jackie]

No, and so, like, what's the intention here? Like, you don't want people posting about your store, and you don't want to get business for your store.

[Turt]

I think that it was like, you

[Jackie]

don't want to get your store too busy. You don't want people coming in, like, making. Taking pictures, maybe.

[Turt]

Maybe people that come in a lot and take pictures and don't buy anything.

[Jackie]

Okay. But then they're promoting your store because they're an influencer. So I always could have people say, I went into a store and I didn't buy something, but I took a picture of something cute and I posted

[Turt]

and I'm an influencer.

[Jackie]

And I'm an influencer and I tagged this business. I didn't buy anything, but I might like actually generate some business for you.

[Turt]

Of course.

[Jackie]

But we don't want that. We don't want business unless you're stealing.

[Turt]

There's like literally no bad downside having someone in your store.

[Jackie]

Like, what about no thieves?

[Turt]

Yeah, that would be good. That is so lame.

[Jackie]

Like, unless they have a lot of other signs and like this is out of context where they say like no rapist, no criminals, no thieves, no influence. But then you're grouping us now you know why.

[Turt]

Why are we talking about rapists and influencers?

[Jackie]

Just me. I'm the only one.

[Turt]

It's just so. It's so lame.

[Jackie]

Yeah. And so this is such a, personally, I think a very much a slay from Paige and like an easy kill shot.

[Turt]

Agreed. I loved it.

[Jackie]

Stupid idiots.

[Turt]

Yeah, agreed.

[Jackie]

Women hate hating woman haters. Yeah. And she just comes off like so classy and like. And like she's saving the people of Nantucket. No. And she didn't like from this mean story.

[Turt]

She didn't say anything mean. She just like laid out straight facts.

[Jackie]

It was strange.

[Turt]

Perfect response, not a win.

[Jackie]

And she's just like saving the small local influencers. Obsessed. Like me. Yeah. Are you ready for our fourth story?

[Turt]

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[Jackie]

Thank you retailers nationwide. Turt.

[Turt]

You're welcome.

[Jackie]

Our fourth story Timothy Chalamet's mom shares support for Kris Jenner after the passing of her mother, MJ saw this beautiful statement. So Kris Jenner shared a carousel of images for MJ's 92nd heavenly birthday yesterday. You know, happy birthday to MJ. She said, I love you. It was just like a beautiful tribute of photos. And a comment was left by Nicole

[Turt]

Flenders Timothy and Paulina. Paulette. What's her name?

[Jackie]

Pauline Chalamet. Pauline, Timothy Chalamet's mother, Nicole Flender comment. Commented. So happy I got to know her.

[Turt]

So what you're saying is that Kylie's boyfriend's mom met her grandma and that's

[Jackie]

time with her grandma.

[Turt]

That's.

[Jackie]

And wants us to know it.

[Turt]

That's. I don't think she wants us to know. I don't think she thought anybody would like, see this.

[Jackie]

No. But it's like it was a significant enough, you know, just a casual. I think she thought people would see it, but it was like that's just the Machatunam nature.

[Turt]

That's really crazy. Like meeting your. Your. That's just bringing your mom to meet your girl's grandma. Yeah.

[Jackie]

And it's like. Yeah. I'm sure the families have met and everything, but the fact that, like they're sharing it that she's commenting in support of.

[Turt]

Yeah.

[Jackie]

Like, it's just at another level.

[Turt]

Yeah. This is really crazy.

[Jackie]

Yeah.

[Turt]

When are they getting married? Or maybe they'll just like, skip the whole like formal marriage thing and they're like in a. They're in a partnership. Very curtain, Goldie.

[Jackie]

But I do think maybe she might be like a little influenced by Taylor and be like, well, if Taylor Swift can get married a fellow anyway billionaire.

[Turt]

Right.

[Jackie]

Then why not me?

[Turt]

It's true. I do think, like, becoming a billionaire is obviously amazing and you just assume

[Jackie]

that you can't get married.

[Turt]

I think you think that there are certain things that just you. You can no longer do.

[Jackie]

That's not the case. Yeah. Like with an ironclad prenup. Why not?

[Turt]

Or like who says you have to get legally married? Like you could have a marriage like a ceremony and like, you know, religious,

[Jackie]

but like just not legally like bound.

[Turt]

Yeah. I feel like that's actually like a good call for like celebrity celebrities.

[Jackie]

Yeah, no, we're definitely like trending that way.

[Turt]

Yeah. Even though a lot of celebrities, like. Well, some people do it like, you know, just to like make waves, like make news. They get engaged like random people. It is like a good way to get press.

[Jackie]

Yeah. We'll talk about it.

[Turt]

Of course we'll talk about anything.

[Jackie]

Well, no, it depends on the day and depends on the person knowing, like, what else is going on that day.

[Turt]

Right.

[Jackie]

But if you gave engage during the summer, like, we'll probably.

[Turt]

There's a high likelihood that we have to talk about it.

[Jackie]

We'll probably mention it. Yeah.

[Turt]

This is so crazy. Like, it's just like, that's family.

[Jackie]

That's family.

[Turt]

That's what you and your family.

[Jackie]

And of course, like, Nicole and Chris seem to be tight close, that they comment on each other's things.

[Turt]

Right.

[Jackie]

So it's just a good sign for our faves. It is.

[Turt]

It's been, I mean, what, three years now? More.

[Jackie]

Yeah. Like, next.

[Turt]

Remember that first photo of them? Like, that aerial shot?

[Jackie]

Chalamet was, like, there, but then there was also the. The first, like, tennis match. Match they went to, which was like, a major watershed moment.

[Turt]

Tennis match?

[Jackie]

Yeah. I think it was the US Open together.

[Turt]

They went.

[Jackie]

Yeah. Well, then they went to the US Open again, and they were, like, with friends, and, you know, she was just being her fun, flirty self. But, like, the first photos of them.

[Turt]

Photos. No, I remember the first photo was that Ariel Blurry.

[Jackie]

Like, the first time they, like, went out together, it was.

[Turt]

When were Kylie Jenner and Timothy Chalamet spotted together first.

[Guest]

So

[Turt]

first seen in the same place, Jan. 2023, which was Paris Fashion Week.

[Jackie]

Okay.

[Turt]

Which is like three and a half years. They were first photographed together June 1, 2023.

[Jackie]

Is that the barbecue and the cigarettes?

[Turt]

The photos were grainy, but confirmed they were seeing each other. Yeah.

[Jackie]

Okay. And then they first publicly went out

[Turt]

together, and then September 5th. They're unmistakable. Beyonce's Renaissance Concert. Concert. Oh, yeah. Interesting.

[Jackie]

Very beautiful. Are you ready for our fifth and final story?

[Turt]

I am.

[Jackie]

It's actually some major sports news.

[Guest]

Really?

[Jackie]

Yeah. LeBron is going to the 76ers. Like, oh, my God.

[Turt]

Actually, I can't believe. Because we haven't done a show in so long that we haven't spoken about this, but obviously, like, I'm really into basketball.

[Jackie]

Everyone's talking about it. Our dinner table was talking about it a lot.

[Turt]

Well, first of all, like, I'm talking about it as obviously, like, the world's biggest Knicks fan. Like, how does this affect us? Because, you know, every. Pretty much every year in the playoffs, we have to be the 76.

[Jackie]

We're in the same conference. You can't get to the championships and them get to the championship.

[Turt]

Right. And we're both, like, usually, like. Like, in the last couple years, like, pretty good. So we always end up playing each other. It's like, last three years in a row, we did beat them quite easily this year. This is, like, an obstacle for us. I do think, like, one man doesn't make A team, even LeBron James.

[Jackie]

Point is that he does make a team. I think that's what he's Going to prove it's very Tom Brady and the Buccaneers. I can win a championship anywhere. He's done it before.

[Turt]

But I just want to say he just spent a couple of years at the Lakers, like, making no impact. So maybe, maybe one man doesn't make

[Jackie]

a team, but I feel like he's decided that, like, this is his mission now. I think maybe when he went to the Lakers, he wanted, like, a team and camaraderie and, like, teamwork makes the dream.

[Turt]

I think he went to the Lakers because he said, whoever takes my son can get me also.

[Jackie]

Well, that, too.

[Turt]

And the Lakers were like, all right, we'll take this, Rando. If we get LeBron, it was a good, great trade. Now, we were wondering, is Bronnie, which is the name of his son, which I'm obsessed with, is he also going to the Philadelphia.

[Jackie]

He's not.

[Turt]

He's not. His contract was confirmed, renewed, and the next day, LeBron left. So we got his son a job, which we love. Committed father.

[Jackie]

Yeah.

[Turt]

And now he's off to Philly. I. I think a lot. He's, like, a very polarizing figure in the basketball community. Like, you either, like, love him or hate him. I don't really, like. I don't hate him. I have no problem with him. He's never, like, been. He's never been, like, obviously, Philly, like, it's like, a big rival of New York, so. So, like, being loyal to my husband, like, obviously, like, this kind of sucks for us.

[Jackie]

Yeah. But I think it makes things interesting, and I do think he put out, like, a. A series of statements saying he really thought he was going to retire. Like, he thought his last game was his last game. Over the last few, like, weeks, he had no clue what he was going to do, and he took some time to think, and he was actually able to just, like, do that and, you know, be sort of like a jobless loser for a while.

[Turt]

And I enjoyed it.

[Jackie]

It gave him the clarity, for sure. It's that, like, athletes can't retire. They can't know what to do with them. It made him realize, I still want to sacrifice. I still want to work. I still want to grind. I still want to compete, to win, and to have a chance at the feeling of winning another championship. I believe I can make the Philadelphia 76ers a championship team, and I'm so excited to energize a new fan base and start this incredible journey one last time.

[Turt]

So I feel like he took a look at all the teams, because anyone would have taken Him. And it's not about money. So I think he looked at two

[Jackie]

years, $8 million, when you just made, like, $53 million.

[Turt]

It's not about that. I think he looked at all the teams and said, who has, like, the. Who just needs me? Who has everything else good, but, like, they need me. And he must have, like, run the numbers very, like, Moneyball, Jonah Hill, and, like, figured out where he mathematically fits in. And, like, it was Philly.

[Jackie]

Yeah.

[Turt]

Because, like, they are, like, a decent team, but they're not, like, amazing. And I think that it's just, like, I can't in. In, like, recent, modern times. I cannot remember the last time, like, a historic, legendary player, like, went out in a good way, you know, like, obviously, Tom Brady, atrocious. Maybe they all go like that. We just don't know. But, like, how did Michael Jordan retire? I don't know. I just assume it was good.

[Jackie]

Played some baseball.

[Turt]

Ye. When he went back then to basketball,

[Jackie]

did you see Michael Jordan was having lunch with David and Victoria?

[Turt]

I did see David having lunch with Victor, yeah.

[Jackie]

You know what else I think? I think, like, as much as Lebron, like, is the goat. I think, like, still, I feel like since we were kids, there's always this, like, conversation between, like, guys that are like, LeBron or Michael Jordan.

[Turt]

Well, no, it's like LeBron or Kobe. They say, like, who's the next Michael Jordan? Is it of our time? Was it LeBron or Kobe? And I think it was Kobe. And then also, like, when you do pass away, you just become, like, legendary. Legendary. And so I think it's, like, pretty much decided that it's Kobe.

[Jackie]

I think he wants, like, more legend points. I think he wants. Wants another championship, like, for all this. Would do it in his competition with Michael Jordan.

[Turt]

Yeah.

[Jackie]

And he's not done, I guess, like, he can still play.

[Turt]

Yeah. I think he's, like, really good. I have no problem with it, but you gotta go far.

[Jackie]

And it's like when he went to the heat just to, like, prove to the world that, like, wherever I go, we're winning a championship. That's a great feeling.

[Turt]

It was a sleigh.

[Jackie]

It was a sleigh. And I think he wants to do it again.

[Turt]

And then he went to Cleveland, but

[Jackie]

Cleveland's where he came from.

[Turt]

Oh, right, right, right. So that was just exciting.

[Jackie]

That was a homecoming. Yeah. Like, sorry, I left. Left you guys for, like, Miami, south beach, or, like, hot.

[Turt]

Yeah.

[Jackie]

Hey, how y' all doing? Like, him walking in.

[Turt]

So, like, I. I do want this for him. Like, I would love to see someone just go out in. In a beautiful way, but unfortunately, it just messes, like, with my situation, which is obviously being, like, the world's biggest Knicks fan.

[Jackie]

Yeah. But in order to be the best, you got to beat the best.

[Turt]

True. I could see this. Like, this is Jay. Like, I feel like Jalen could hear this and, like, love it, because now it's like, you're gonna play them along.

[Jackie]

That he's better than.

[Turt]

And he's. That's what this whole thing with Jalen Brunson is. Everyone said he's too short. Everyone said he's too this, he's too that. Nepo. That's what everyone says about him. And then he proved everyone wrong, which is why, like, obviously, the Knicks winning was so great for so many reasons, but that storyline of, like, him proving everyone wrong was so great. And it's like, yeah. David and Goliath.

[Jackie]

Yeah. Yeah. So I think it's good. I think when you're at that level, like, yeah. You want a chance to beat LeBron.

[Turt]

Yeah. Right. He's LeBron until he's not, you know, like, Tom Brady. Like, what's Tom Brady? But then he's like.

[Jackie]

But he's still Tom Brady. Like, six.

[Turt]

Yeah.

[Jackie]

Championships. Like, and history will remember him fondly. Just, you know, the last couple of years been kind to him.

[Turt]

Yeah.

[Jackie]

But, like, we'll move on one day.

[Turt]

So huge news for the Philly community.

[Jackie]

Yeah. I'm sure they're excited.

[Turt]

Oh, yeah.

[Jackie]

That's cool.

[Turt]

I have to chat with Taylor Donahue. I wonder what she thinks about that.

[Jackie]

Yeah.

[Turt]

I think a lot of people, like Dave Point, who's, like, a big Philly. Phil. Oh, no, Boston, whatever. Like, people, like, also hate LeBron. So, like, what do you do when, like, you. If. Because if you're a Philly fan, like, you hate LeBron, like, he's been your op for. Then he's coming to your team.

[Jackie]

Like, oh, I think you.

[Turt]

You just love.

[Jackie]

Yeah.

[Turt]

Okay.

[Jackie]

Okay. Yeah. He chose you.

[Turt]

Yeah. Right. Must feel. Feel good.

[Jackie]

Yeah.

[Turt]

Well, two more months till preseason begins. Like, I'm such a sports fan.

[Jackie]

Are you gonna follow the whole season?

[Turt]

Honestly? Yeah. Like, I had such a good time.

[Jackie]

Do you like basketball more than football?

[Turt]

That's a really good question. I realize now that it's not whether I like a sport better than another sport. It's like, do I give a. It's, like, when I'm watching basketball, that means nothing to me. Like, I'm bored to tears. Like, when I'm Watching my close personal friend Kyle. Jus. Check. Like obviously I'm excited, you know, so it's just about like how I'm personally invested.

[Jackie]

Got it. But also like basketball's always at night, you know, and that's true. It's late.

[Turt]

Yeah, that actually is true. That is very true.

[Jackie]

So I like football.

[Turt]

Football's longer. Like it's a long game thing. Yeah.

[Jackie]

But it's just like I. The visuals, I like the colors better. Like the green field.

[Turt]

But it's like if you ever watch football, it's like three seconds of play and then like timeouts, commercials to the pre. The pre made package. Like of course it's not a lot of actual game watching, but maybe that's what's good. Maybe.

[Jackie]

Okay, well that's your show.

[Turt]

Well, that's your show. I feel like we covered, you know, a lot of different. We covered. Yeah. A lot of sports. That's our show.

[Jackie]

You guys. Thank you so much. Try listening to our show the fastest

[Turt]

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[Jackie]

We will see you tomorrow. Love ya. Bye.