The Sexual Regression Revolution: Thursday, February 20th, 2025

Summary

Podcast Summary: The Toast – "The Sexual Regression Revolution" | February 20, 2025

Hosts: Jackie & Claudia Oshry
Release Date: February 20, 2025

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1. Opening Remarks and Personal Life Updates

Claudia Oshry opens the episode reflecting on the persistent rumors surrounding her personal life, expressing the challenges of living under public scrutiny despite appearances of glamour.

Claudia Oshry [00:12]: "It's so hard to live this life. I know people look at me and they say, oh, my God. Glamorous celebrity. She has everything. And, like, you don't know the toll it takes these rumors swirling about me."

2. Clarifying Rumors and Relationship Dynamics

The sisters address specific rumors, including Claudia's alleged cosmetic procedures and pregnancy. Jackie defends Claudia's transparency, emphasizing their open relationship and dismissing unfounded speculations.

Jackie Oshry [01:34]: "People who thought that of you obviously don't know you. First of all, you're pregnant."

Claudia also shares insights into their current living arrangements, highlighting a shift from staying at Jackie's house to opting for hotel accommodations for peace and restoration.

Claudia Oshry [07:30]: "Being at a hotel has been so amazing. ... I just want to set the record straight for our listeners. Don't ever expect to see me at Jackie's house ever again unless the hotel is booked."

3. Social Media Presence and Celebrity Interactions

The discussion moves to their experiences with social media, particularly Twitter. Jackie recounts deleting her Twitter account in solidarity when Miley Cyrus did the same, showcasing their intentional engagement with platforms to stay connected with fellow celebrities.

Jackie Oshry [03:16]: "I deleted my Twitter... It was just like, oh, my God, co chairs."

4. Impact of Global Events: The Beavis Family Hostage Situation

Transitioning to more serious topics, Claudia and Jackie delve into the tragic fate of the Beavis family, who were taken hostage and later confirmed to have been returned as deceased. They critique the lack of celebrity activism and public response to such humanitarian crises.

Claudia Oshry [18:04]: "It's a big part of social media culture and celebrity culture to take on causes and become advocates for different human rights... experiencing complete radio silence in a matter like this is so devastating."

Jackie Oshry [21:05]: "They should have been returned immediately, day one and there wasn't anything. ... The world failed them."

5. The Sexual Regression Revolution: A Critical Examination

The core theme of the episode revolves around the concept of a "Sexual Regression Revolution." Claudia and Jackie engage in a candid discussion about modern societal shifts concerning sexuality, autonomy, and the portrayal of women in media.

Claudia Oshry [49:43]: "I think that this is disgusting. ... Why on earth would someone do that?"

Jackie Oshry [50:33]: "Sleeping with a thousand randos, is that the best? ... You can become a high-end prostitute."

6. Celebrity Culture and Social Media Activism

The hosts critique the superficiality of social media activism, pointing out the disparity between public declarations and genuine advocacy, especially in the wake of tragedies like the Beavis family incident.

Claudia Oshry [19:10]: "It's about taking a scientific approach to really a disease that affects millions of Americans... they're really taking care of things."

Jackie Oshry [19:59]: "Like you don't just need to post something to say that, you know, hey, like mark me safe... it's not about just saying something because what you've seen is so wrong."

7. Controversial Figures and Their Influence

Claudia and Jackie discuss controversial internet personalities like Bonnie Blue, evaluating the impact of their actions on societal norms and the boundaries of the sexual revolution.

Claudia Oshry [49:03]: "She's an only fans creator... she's a sex worker creator, but recently shot to fame because she does these challenges..."

Jackie Oshry [50:16]: "She's doing a lot of stuff that's really shameful... This is beyond the pale."

8. Reality TV Reflections: Summer House Recap

Wrapping up, the sisters provide a recap of the latest "Summer House" episodes, sharing their opinions on cast dynamics, relationship developments, and overall show quality. They express a desire for more meaningful interactions and less superficial plotlines.

Claudia Oshry [75:45]: "She was really hurt by this New York Times article... It's an unfortunate truth."

Jackie Oshry [83:17]: "I like the steak dinner. I like watching them cook. I like seeing who cleans... It's so a pleasure."

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Notable Quotes with Timestamps

• Claudia Oshry [00:25]: "Claudia had a procedure done. Now I feel like we're all forgetting that I'm pregnant..."

• Jackie Oshry [08:38]: "We always forget our mic flags again today."

• Claudia Oshry [14:00]: "We're not doing anything wrong. If we're like making stuff up, like that's real, like that's gossip. We don't do that."

• Jackie Oshry [31:04]: "So without further ado, here are the fast five stories that you need to know."

• Claudia Oshry [50:33]: "I'm ready for big tobacco to start sponsoring the toast. Like, that's kind of money I need to live."

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Conclusion

In this episode of "The Toast," Jackie and Claudia Oshry navigate a blend of personal revelations, critical societal observations, and light-hearted banter. They balance discussing severe global issues with candid debates on modern sexual norms and the influence of social media on activism and celebrity culture. The hosts maintain their signature humorous dynamic while delving into topics that reflect both their personal lives and broader societal trends.

Transcript

[Claudia Oshry]

Good morning, millennials, and welcome back to the toast. Happy Thursday.

[Jackie Oshry]

Happy Thursdays. This week is just not like other weeks. Of course it was a shirt week.

[Claudia Oshry]

I mean, it is like other weeks in a lot of ways, because, like, the rumors about me are insane yet again. It's so hard to live this life. I know people look at me and they say, oh, my God. Glamorous celebrity. She has everything. And, like, you don't know the toll it takes these rumors swirling about me.

[Jackie Oshry]

What are the rumors starting?

[Claudia Oshry]

Well, you know, it's funny, right? As life can be. A couple of days ago, I got on this show, and I. I was very honest with the audience. I said, I'm not really feeling myself. I've taken a turn. Looks wise. I'm gonna put on these sunglasses in this new studio to just protect myself. And I said that quite clearly. And then I did the same thing the next day, which was yesterday. And I also said quite clearly.

[Jackie Oshry]

Clearly, you say it in a very.

[Claudia Oshry]

Queer fashion, in an extremely queer kind of way, that this is what I was doing, and this is why I was doing it. Did that stop the rumors swirling about me? No.

[Jackie Oshry]

What are the rumors?

[Claudia Oshry]

Claudia had a procedure done. Now I feel like we're all forgetting that I'm pregnant, which pretty much bars, unfortunately, and sometimes rude.

[Jackie Oshry]

Why are you not thinking of me and remembering things that I tell you?

[Claudia Oshry]

Is my experience not important to you? Is it not valid? Also rumors. I got Lasik. I don't wear glasses. So there's just a lot of inconsistency in the rumors. And it's really upsetting me because now today, I'm forced to not wear my glasses to prove, like, I'm still the same ugly. And it's funny. It's funny that you guys thought that I would get a procedure and it wouldn't be liposuction. Like, if I was getting that.

[Jackie Oshry]

You guys thought that you would get a procedure and not vlogging for the Patreon 1000%.

[Claudia Oshry]

So I have my glasses right here.

[Jackie Oshry]

People who thought that of you obviously don't know you. First of all, you're pregnant.

[Claudia Oshry]

First of all, it's kind of the biggest of all.

[Jackie Oshry]

And second of all, you're an open book, especially when it comes to, like that. Like, if you had something done, what do they think? Like, blank bluff or something? Oh, my gosh, you'd be shouting it from the rooftops. How interesting.

[Claudia Oshry]

I would love to have a bluff right now. Like, so do you think you'll have.

[Jackie Oshry]

A bluff in your life?

[Claudia Oshry]

Actually, of all, like, the issues I like, I look in the mirror and, you know, bluff was. So I'm sure if I sat and looked at my bluff, I could come up with a reason to get the surgery. But it's certainly not on my top 20.

[Jackie Oshry]

Not even close. I totally agree.

[Claudia Oshry]

First would be liposuction.

[Jackie Oshry]

Sometimes I see something, I'm like, oh, I need that.

[Claudia Oshry]

First would be breast lift and reduction.

[Jackie Oshry]

Okay.

[Claudia Oshry]

Which nobody is speculating, which is. That's hurtful, right? That nobody thinks I got a breast lifter rejection first. Second would be liposuction.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah. Liposuction's like a little nothing burger, though.

[Claudia Oshry]

That's like Botox outpatient.

[Jackie Oshry]

It is. It's just a little suction.

[Claudia Oshry]

So I'm gonna put these glasses back on.

[Jackie Oshry]

Okay.

[Claudia Oshry]

Because again, I haven't blown out my hair in a few days. I'm carrying a little holiday weight, a little baby weight as well, and I just don't feel good.

[Jackie Oshry]

Turdy alone.

[Claudia Oshry]

And I also feel like the glasses have been, like, giving me, like, an extra little spice, you know?

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah. Because you have this.

[Claudia Oshry]

Especially this pair.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah.

[Claudia Oshry]

This pair is.

[Jackie Oshry]

You love your Aussie pair.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah, Sharon, love. So, just wanted to clear up what I was going through.

[Jackie Oshry]

Well, the rumors are true. I deleted my Twitter.

[Claudia Oshry]

That's what I've been saying, by the way.

[Jackie Oshry]

I mean, the rumors are true.

[Claudia Oshry]

Me, when I decided to, like, take two days off TikTok releasing a song.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah, those were the days.

[Claudia Oshry]

Where were you? Like, I know everybody remembers where they were when they heard, like, major life news, like, we killed Osama.

[Jackie Oshry]

Where were you when Miley deleted her Twitter?

[Claudia Oshry]

When you heard that Miley deleted her Twitter.

[Jackie Oshry]

Oh, I actually don't remember, but I do remember that I deleted mine. Like, when Miley.

[Claudia Oshry]

In solidarity.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah, when Miley got a Twitter, I got a Twitter. Because I was like, that's how I can keep up with Miley as opposed to just, like, going to just jared.comilley Cyrus. Like, I can follow her on Twitter. So I joined Twitter to follow along with Miley, and then the rumors were true. She deleted her Twitter. So I'm like, what am I doing here? And I deleted mine. And. And then later in life, I made another Twitter.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah.

[Jackie Oshry]

But my first. I don't even remember the days. It was just like, a Miley fan account.

[Claudia Oshry]

That was how Twitter took off. Remember? It was like Ashton Kutcher joined Twitter, and it was like, well, if you want to keep up with Ashton. And who didn't?

[Jackie Oshry]

Back in the day, there was a Lot to keep up with Miley. Like, she was taking matters into her own hands.

[Claudia Oshry]

The Miley and Mandy show.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah. Like, sharing things going on in her life that we would never see on just Jared. So I had to join Twitter.

[Claudia Oshry]

We do have to kind of give a shout out to Jared in that moment, because he was there for us before. All these other social media platforms were.

[Jackie Oshry]

Like, posting carousels of, like, the same variant of the same picture, but, like, she moved her leg a little bit.

[Claudia Oshry]

Somebody else was there for us, too. But I will not speak his name.

[Jackie Oshry]

Oh, yeah, yeah. Baltimore erasure.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Jackie Oshry]

Even though that was. Which is really crazy, that was a.

[Claudia Oshry]

Really big part of our consumption of celebrity culture growing up. I'm sure you guys know what we're talking about. We will not see this person's name.

[Jackie Oshry]

Shall not be named, which is just so crazy.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah.

[Jackie Oshry]

And now he, like, goes online, talks about bullying, and it's like, he goes.

[Claudia Oshry]

Online, talks about bullying, and then he bullies us.

[Jackie Oshry]

I literally believe everyone.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah, yeah. No, and it's like, I can't even go there.

[Jackie Oshry]

No. I can't even.

[Claudia Oshry]

Justice for Misha Barton.

[Jackie Oshry]

Justice for everyone.

[Claudia Oshry]

Or as he called her, mushy Fart one.

[Jackie Oshry]

Right.

[Claudia Oshry]

Just as for everyone. So true.

[Jackie Oshry]

So I'm glad that you cleared up those rumors about Claude Self.

[Claudia Oshry]

It's just, you know, you see so many rumors about yourself when you're as big of celebrities as we are, and you want to respond to every single one of them, right? No, but this one in particular was so flawed in its potential. Like, I wish I could be getting procedures right now. I wish that's the phase of my life that I was currently in.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah, well, the rumors are also true that my car can park itself.

[Claudia Oshry]

Guys, I watched Jackie today. I literally got here early, parked in the same exact place, and I was like, let me find this bitch.

[Jackie Oshry]

When I turned down the street, I turned right behind you. I, like, saw your car, my husband's car, and I was like, oh, my God, co chairs. So she pulled in the exact spot that she was in yesterday, and there was another spot in front of her, just like yesterday. But Claudia was doing her thing, and I saw my spot from yesterday was open. Like, we literally got to start all over again. It's honestly like Groundhog Day. Because the car that wound up parking in front of you was another Tesla Model Y. Like, yesterday. No, I literally think we're living in a simulation. I've never thought that before until today, when all the same parking spots are open. We get a second Chance Claudia parks in her spot. I drive a little forward, pull. People told me that my car can park itself. I just have to tap the P. So I line up my car. I'm like, donde esta the P?

[Claudia Oshry]

I never would have thought it would have been that simple.

[Jackie Oshry]

I see that it's always had, like, whenever there's a parking space or if I'm in a parking lot, all the spots are lettered P. So I'm like, let me just tap it.

[Claudia Oshry]

Boom.

[Jackie Oshry]

Car starts going ham.

[Claudia Oshry]

Did you take your foot off the gas?

[Jackie Oshry]

My foot was not on the gas. Swerve. And Mervin, this wheel is going crazy. Like, perfect park job.

[Claudia Oshry]

I watched it.

[Jackie Oshry]

I saw there waiting for you. Oh, I was waiting for. Well, you were just taking a while to get your bag. But I was literally standing there like.

[Claudia Oshry]

Excuse me, I just want to clear my name. I was parked. I was taking a long time to get out of the car. Cuz I got you a coffee. So I told my purse and two coffees.

[Jackie Oshry]

Oh my gosh. Well, thank you for coffee. Coffee, girls. Cheers.

[Claudia Oshry]

Cheers to a great day.

[Jackie Oshry]

Cheers to what hopefully will be. What will hopefully be a great episode. Like, we're together in our commuter studio life, which is kind of feeling like the life we were made for.

[Claudia Oshry]

I know. So actually, in addition to the rumors about my botched facelift, a lot of rumors swirling that you and I are on bed terms and I'm not sleeping at your house.

[Jackie Oshry]

That's not what happened.

[Claudia Oshry]

No, it's not. Jackie had.

[Jackie Oshry]

We're on bad terms, but we're doing this.

[Claudia Oshry]

We are on bad terms. And Jackie had other, like, house.

[Jackie Oshry]

And as we told you guys on Tuesday, like, Claudia was adamant that she wasn't coming here this weekend or this week. So I made other plans and I had a full house up until yesterday. So you got a hotel.

[Claudia Oshry]

And let me say, this man plans. God laughs. Because they always come and stay at your house. And it's lovely. I'll never say your house again.

[Jackie Oshry]

This has been really great. And like, this is great for, like, work life balance too.

[Claudia Oshry]

Being at a hotel has been so amazing. And no disrespect, because, you know, I love waking up, like, in your house with your family, but it's so worth it, like, the peace and the restoration that have afforded. Like, and I went to the spa. This hotel. You came and spent the day.

[Jackie Oshry]

We're loving using the amenities. I went into the spa, we went to the beach. Like, I'm loving the Coach Hotel. I'm not a fetch Because I'm loving it, too.

[Claudia Oshry]

So I just want to, like, set the record straight for our listeners. Like, don't ever expect to see me at Jackie's house ever again unless the hotel is booked.

[Jackie Oshry]

And then also with the new studio, the studio revamp, we're only set up for one person. I can't record two people in my studio on video anymore, and I could do audio if you want to sit on the floor. So we have to go. We have to outsource. So, like, things are changing.

[Claudia Oshry]

But we found a beautiful home here.

[Jackie Oshry]

And we found, like, this is just. Necessity is the mother of invention, because we've seriously never been happier.

[Claudia Oshry]

And, you know, and I've never, ever been happier. We're so happy. We are. By the way, we found a new home here. I love this, like, very Tim Dill. This. This podcast studio is so podcast. Do you know what I mean?

[Jackie Oshry]

It's so real ones podcasting. Like, if you're a real one with a podcast, it looks like this. And you know what? We are real ones.

[Claudia Oshry]

We always forget, like, we are huge, both physically, but also in the podcasting space.

[Jackie Oshry]

Now our clips, like, will look like the elk of podcasters.

[Claudia Oshry]

No, we look like the type of clips where the top comment is, like, they should make podcast equipment more expensive.

[Jackie Oshry]

You know, that's what people say, like.

[Claudia Oshry]

When a podcast clip goes viral for saying something really stupid. Like, the top comment is always like, we've got to make podcast microphones more. More inaccessible.

[Jackie Oshry]

Oh, that's funny, because I feel like in this studio, it's, like, very clear these are not our microphones. I feel like people would comment that in our, like, frame situation because, like, we own those things.

[Claudia Oshry]

We forgot our mic flags again today.

[Jackie Oshry]

Rats.

[Claudia Oshry]

You know what? Now that this is our new home, we should leave a copy here.

[Jackie Oshry]

We should. Yeah. I'm gonna leave a lot of stuff here. I've got plans.

[Claudia Oshry]

We're gonna give us a drawer. We're like in that episode of Sex and the City where Carrie gets, like, a quarter of an inch in Big's mirror in the bathroom. Next thing you know, she's got a blow dryer. She's taking up a drawer, and he gives it all back to her. Oh, man, he was so fucking mean.

[Jackie Oshry]

Like, next time that we're here for a bit of a duration, like, we're bringing trinkets for the shelves.

[Claudia Oshry]

We're bringing a suitcase.

[Jackie Oshry]

We're gonna make it our own.

[Claudia Oshry]

I like my suitcase.

[Jackie Oshry]

We are bringing a su. We are full of pleni materials. C Rexy pargy things.

[Claudia Oshry]

We're really like the nightmare girlfriend. We're moving in, we're redecorating.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah. But I think sometimes she adds a nice touch.

[Claudia Oshry]

A woman's face, though.

[Jackie Oshry]

I love what they've done with the place.

[Claudia Oshry]

1000%. We are not complaining. We are not judging. We are so excited to have a lot.

[Jackie Oshry]

We're happy to be a part of, like, the podcasting world, the community.

[Claudia Oshry]

The podcasting community of southern Florida.

[Jackie Oshry]

It's true. And it's a very large queue.

[Claudia Oshry]

I have noticed. It is very large.

[Jackie Oshry]

Booming.

[Claudia Oshry]

We'll fit right in.

[Jackie Oshry]

Booming industry.

[Claudia Oshry]

So, by the way, today's a great show because it's Thursday. Stories are, you know what they are. Life's what you make it. So let's make it rock.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah.

[Claudia Oshry]

But it's also summer house day, so last night's episode of Summerhouse, the second of the season, aired, and I have a lot of thoughts. I know we were trying not to, like, recap it betwixt the two of us off air, and you were like.

[Jackie Oshry]

I had, like, a mean thing to say, so I said that off air.

[Claudia Oshry]

Well, as you, of course, should.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah, I wasn't going to say that on the show, but I just wanted.

[Claudia Oshry]

You to know how I felt. Of course.

[Jackie Oshry]

I would say, like, some mean stuff on the show, but it was, like, category of mean that I'm not saying.

[Claudia Oshry]

I know. And it's just so sad that, like, and because we're sisters, like, we could just say things to each other. Like, other people would never even, like, be too afraid.

[Jackie Oshry]

There's show talk and then there's, like, off show talk.

[Claudia Oshry]

And I just want to say, if you guys could hear off show talk and you never will, like, you would not be able to pull it out of me. You either would fucking hate us or, like, seriously, I think we're so.

[Jackie Oshry]

No, it's even better than show talk. It's like, the real stuff. But then sometimes we're doing off show talk and, like, I don't give a fuck anyone can hear this. Like, you know, if we were at, like, lunch or something, we're having. I was like, I don't care.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah, we were having lunch and we were gossiping and Jackie was being so loud.

[Jackie Oshry]

I'm like, I don't care.

[Claudia Oshry]

Like a pop in place where, like, they were totally toasters.

[Jackie Oshry]

Incredibly toasty.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah. And I was like, could you shut your fucking mouth? Like, please.

[Jackie Oshry]

But I told you, I'll say it to your face.

[Claudia Oshry]

I don't give. She doesn't. She Literally didn't give.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah, but sometimes I'm, like, speaking, like, in.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah, no, by the way. Sometimes you have to talk shit so hard that you actually can't even speak. No, you cannot. Sort of have to, like.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah. Even in, like, my own house, if I'm saying something, I'm like, no, no.

[Claudia Oshry]

You ever say something, like, so vile and atrocious, you have to do, like, a couple of things before you say it. You have to check your phone, flip it up, right? To make sure, like, it's not recording.

[Jackie Oshry]

A voice that's very you like.

[Claudia Oshry]

No, by the way. That's a universal experience, I'm telling you. I just, like, whenever I'm saying something so nasty, I'll take everybody's songs, I'll take Ben's. I'll put it all in, like, the center of the table, flip it up.

[Jackie Oshry]

Saying something really nasty. What I have to do is just, like, say a couple nice things before it.

[Claudia Oshry]

Oh, no. I don't feel the need to qualify my nastiness. When I see something really nasty, I flip up all the flowers.

[Jackie Oshry]

She's an amazing, beautiful girl.

[Claudia Oshry]

I also repeat it in my head first, just to make sure, like, if anybody walked by hearing it, like, is this something I could truly stand by?

[Jackie Oshry]

Right.

[Claudia Oshry]

And that's why I don't leave the house. That's how to leave the house. Because nobody can walk by in my own house.

[Jackie Oshry]

So you think so true.

[Claudia Oshry]

My Alexa. The way my Alexa could destroy me if, you know, there are all. There's a lot of theories. I saw this law. She's always listening, right? That she's listening.

[Jackie Oshry]

Even when she's listening for her name.

[Claudia Oshry]

She says, speaking to her, if you're not speaking, Tersh.

[Jackie Oshry]

I didn't even know I had an Alexa until I was watching one of Shannon's stories.

[Claudia Oshry]

Jeff Bezos doesn't even know that he could ruin my career, like, with the information.

[Jackie Oshry]

He didn't make your career.

[Claudia Oshry]

I think it's time he did, by the way.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah, well, that too, but I just feel like I would say it to your face.

[Claudia Oshry]

Do it. Get the.

[Jackie Oshry]

I didn't even know I had an Alexa until I was watching Shannon stories and she was talking to hers. And mine started going, where's your alexa?

[Claudia Oshry]

You don't know you have.

[Jackie Oshry]

It's under my living room tv. Now, the good news is I don't do. I don't do any interesting conversation in my living room, like, whatsoever. That's not where it goes down.

[Claudia Oshry]

Different rooms in the home require different sort of conversations. And the living room is not.

[Jackie Oshry]

Jeff has nothing.

[Claudia Oshry]

Your living room is also far too open because you have like an open concept home. And it's like people in the kitchen and the dining room could hear you. And it's, it's not private.

[Jackie Oshry]

It's not where it goes down.

[Claudia Oshry]

Where does the worst of it go down for you? That's good.

[Jackie Oshry]

On FaceTime.

[Claudia Oshry]

Mine's the tub. Like it's really private.

[Jackie Oshry]

Oh, that's good.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah.

[Jackie Oshry]

And like you have like the stone walls, they can't get through.

[Claudia Oshry]

It's a little echoey actually. If you're like listening through my vents.

[Jackie Oshry]

It'S like reverberating to your neighbors.

[Claudia Oshry]

Correct.

[Jackie Oshry]

That's funny. But we don't really say anything bad cuz we're like lovely, nice girls and we love everyone.

[Claudia Oshry]

You know, I've actually like never said anything nasty in my life. Yeah.

[Jackie Oshry]

It's just true is the truth.

[Claudia Oshry]

Well that, by the way, I'm glad you brought that up because when talking and gossiping, the truth is a factor here.

[Jackie Oshry]

Like if we're exchanging truth will set you free.

[Claudia Oshry]

If we're exchanging truths.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah.

[Claudia Oshry]

We're not doing anything wrong. If we're like making stuff up, like that's real, like that's gossip. We don't do that. We merely exchange factual information. No.

[Jackie Oshry]

With the sprinkle of opinion, little flair for dramatics. But the opinions are truthful.

[Claudia Oshry]

Correct. And therefore nobody's getting hurt.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah, yeah. No, it's fine. Like it's been fine.

[Claudia Oshry]

These justifications we have to ourselves quarterly that like our talking is fine. It's fine.

[Jackie Oshry]

No. As I get older, I feel much more comfortable. It's actually so true, you know?

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah.

[Jackie Oshry]

I guess that's how old people like, real, like grand. They don't give up. That's why they don't give. They sit and they'll say to your face.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yep.

[Jackie Oshry]

And I, I see how you get there.

[Claudia Oshry]

Oh, I'm. I have like the mindset when it comes to gossip. Of a woman twice my age.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah. And just know, like, it will get.

[Claudia Oshry]

Even stronger because now I'm stronger.

[Jackie Oshry]

And that must be a fun part of growing up. Amongst other things.

[Claudia Oshry]

Also fun fact, when we wrapped yesterday's show, the lovely gentleman Ben here, who's been fabulously switching all the cameras, he said, he said it to both of us, but we all know he was talking to me. He said, you guys like singers? Are you like musicians? Because he said you have such a good voice. And I just said that was like an interesting fact. I wanted to share with you.

[Jackie Oshry]

He said, what kind of business you in?

[Claudia Oshry]

What kind of business y'all in? That's seriously such an underrated. Obviously, like, the post Its moment from Romy Michel is like a viral moment. But that particular line, the way that server served it, is so parchy. And it's often overlooked just by the. Like, we invented Post its. And that's great, but what kind of business y'all in?

[Jackie Oshry]

No, and it's so pertinent to the present day because so many people talk like they don't realize it, but the way that they talk about their businesses and their creations and sometimes you just.

[Claudia Oshry]

Want to see someone. What kind of business y'all in? It's true, right? Like you. That happens a lot, actually. What were we just talking about?

[Jackie Oshry]

Love is blind.

[Claudia Oshry]

Love is blind.

[Jackie Oshry]

Oh, that too.

[Claudia Oshry]

The people being like, I work in medical aesthetics. I'm around a lot of Botox. What kind of business y'all in?

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah, like, what do you do? And also, it's like, are you a doctor? That's cool.

[Claudia Oshry]

The other girl who had a doctorate in health administration and works in a hospital and called herself a doctor. What kind of business y'all in? Do you have a doctorate or are you a doctor in a hospital?

[Jackie Oshry]

That guy who's like, I'm around a lot of aesthetics. Like, I have a high bar for beauty. Like, that's what a plastic surgeon says. He's not the doctor. He's not even like the RN who does the bits and bobs.

[Claudia Oshry]

And it makes you. It begs the question, what kind of business y'all are?

[Jackie Oshry]

He kind of just like, walks into the receptionist and, like, drops off the things that they ordered.

[Claudia Oshry]

Correct. He is a courier.

[Jackie Oshry]

So he sees Botox in the waiting room.

[Claudia Oshry]

He's a clerk.

[Jackie Oshry]

Like, it's just something that really only plastic surgeons can say.

[Claudia Oshry]

Having said that, I identify with these people on Love is Blind. Like, who have a difficult time expressing their jobs. Because when I meet new people and they say, what do you do these days? I really. I think I just say I have a podcast.

[Jackie Oshry]

That's what I say. Everyone is so interested.

[Claudia Oshry]

For a while it was like, I'm a comedian. And then it was also like a content creator. Right. I've landed. It's when you have. When you're a multi hyphenate, like, we are, you know, authors, New York Times bestselling. What else are we? Oh, comedians, podcasters, content creators, musicians. It's hard to pick just one. So, like, I hate to say just podcasts, because then It's. It leaves behind all my other accomplishments, but I think for the sake of brevity and, like, lucidity, it's best. Yeah.

[Jackie Oshry]

But also, in this day and age, like, a successful podcaster does do all of those other things. Like, are you a podcaster if you.

[Claudia Oshry]

Don'T have a book?

[Jackie Oshry]

So I think they know that you have, like, multiple businesses. When you say podcasting, and I also have to say, I think I told you this, but the show nobody Wants this has done wonders for this conversation, because whenever I say to people, especially older people, like, oh, I have a podcast, and especially when I say with my sister.

[Claudia Oshry]

With their sister.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah. They're like, like, the show Nobody wants this.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Jackie Oshry]

And I think that they portray it pretty well, except then they think it's like sex. And. And then I say, it's not like that.

[Claudia Oshry]

No.

[Jackie Oshry]

No comedy.

[Claudia Oshry]

I won't even let my sister listen to my episode of Jay Shetty. You think we're talking about sex?

[Jackie Oshry]

No. So it's really done wonders for that. And I just have to thank the Sisters Foster.

[Claudia Oshry]

I have to thank the Sisters Foster for a lot of things.

[Jackie Oshry]

Oh, I do have to thank the Sisters Foster for a lot of things. I guess it's like a good segue into, like, what we absolutely have to talk about today, like, as human beings.

[Claudia Oshry]

And it's just dreadful because this show is supposed to be fun and light, and we're making it so hard.

[Jackie Oshry]

We've made it fun and light up until this point. Even though it's been an awful morning and an awful few days.

[Claudia Oshry]

It's really been a tough 24 hours. There were a lot of rumors in the last couple of days about the fate of the Beavis family, and I tried not to get, like, caught up. There's so many rumors. I've been saying things about them for, like, a year, especially about this particular family. So I'd seen, like, false reports, and I didn't want to, like, believe any of it until it was actually confirmed. And yesterday it was that the four hostages being sent back from Gaza today were going to be in coffins, dead bodies. And three out of four of them were the Bez family.

[Jackie Oshry]

So the mother and the two kids, the bodies are now in Israel for identification. So, like, it'll be triple confirmed soon. But that is who they've said is coming. So, like, now.

[Claudia Oshry]

And of course, there was, like, a whole parade in Gaza of the.

[Jackie Oshry]

Of the bodies, music playing. Everyone came out to cheer. They brought their children. Just like a despicable society.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah. A display of depravity. And like I don't. There actually aren't words.

[Jackie Oshry]

No.

[Claudia Oshry]

To accurately describe like some of those videos and. And actually. And what happened there.

[Jackie Oshry]

They gave the coffins back. They were locked. They gave keys. The keys didn't open them. Like it's the level of psychological terror and warfare. Like these are not human beings with souls. These are awful, horrible people. I think the humanity. The Jewish people are obviously like in mourning today, I think, but for humanity as well. And just talking about the Fosters, they've been very vocal in like just saying the obvious things, which has been really hard for people with no brain cells, I guess.

[Claudia Oshry]

Like people with a platform and like celebrity. It's become just a big part of like social media culture and celebrity culture. Like to take on causes and become advocates for different human rights. A lot of like feminist movements and to really experience complete radio silence in. In a matter like this is so devastating. And that's why the Foster sisters to us are like such role models and such fabulous because they don't give a.

[Jackie Oshry]

Like scrupl what we were saying yesterday. And I feel a lot of different ways about social media activism. Like you don't just need to post something to like say that, you know, hey, like mark me safe, like don't come after me. But like the fact that some people wouldn't want people to know, like, hey, I care about this. Like this bothers me. And then there's also other people where they see this and it's like you don't feel compelled to say something just because what you've seen is so wrong. And it's also the same people who are constantly posting about perceived human rights issues and feminism and all the things that they're worried about. And like this is seriously the worst thing I could possibly think of.

[Claudia Oshry]

I couldn't even think of a mother.

[Jackie Oshry]

And her two children stolen from their home. Not even by the terrorists. The military.

[Claudia Oshry]

Civilians.

[Jackie Oshry]

By civilians who after the terrorists, they came to loot and ravage the village and they found them.

[Claudia Oshry]

Rape.

[Jackie Oshry]

And they found them and they took them alive to Gaza and they're coming back in coffins.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah.

[Jackie Oshry]

And their dad was also taken separately. He came back alive two weeks ago.

[Claudia Oshry]

I can't. Only like I.

[Jackie Oshry]

These are not people that you can live beside. So at a certain. Once this chapter of releases and exchanges closes. Like, it can't go on this way.

[Claudia Oshry]

No. And I. There's. This has been a particular part of the story that so many people have been following because it's such a. I mean every hostage taken is so terrible. But this one in particular I think shook a lot of people. Anyone with a kid, but also like just these beautiful children with a heart. It was really just kind of one of the bigger stories from the saga. And I had actually forgotten, like with all the hoopla in the last couple of days that the father was returned two weeks ago, I just like forgotten that small part of it. And so that's just another huge part of the tragedy. Like, I don't know how someone like that, how you go on.

[Jackie Oshry]

I don't know either. After being starved, tortured, you also just.

[Claudia Oshry]

Went through like one of the worst things a human can go through.

[Jackie Oshry]

Holocaust.

[Claudia Oshry]

You've been through a 500 days of starvation, of torture, of hostage, of kidnapping. And you return to. And your entire family is gone.

[Jackie Oshry]

Your wife, your children. Her parents were killed. They were living in the same kicky boots, their dog.

[Claudia Oshry]

It's, it's, it's all so upsetting, like the story itself. But what makes it even harder to come to terms with is the aftermath and the reactions, the lack of equation, the silence.

[Jackie Oshry]

They should have been returned immediately, day one and there wasn't anything.

[Claudia Oshry]

Well, they never should have been taken.

[Jackie Oshry]

Of course, but just the world failed them. They failed Israel, Jewish people around the world. It's horrible.

[Claudia Oshry]

It is.

[Jackie Oshry]

And, and then these displays, you know, all the innocent civilians coming out, well fed, they get between 2,000 and 3,000 calories. Victims of genocide every single day with their posters that they print and their ceremonies.

[Claudia Oshry]

They're all overweight, even though they've been for two days. No, please. I'm not like pussy around it anymore.

[Jackie Oshry]

It's like it's once this release, it's over. Like, it can't be this way. You can't live with people like this. This experiment of land for peace was a failure. And if they want to live underground, then they don't need a beautiful strip on the sea. I gotta go.

[Claudia Oshry]

A gorgeous tunnel for you.

[Jackie Oshry]

Go live anywhere else. Goodbye.

[Claudia Oshry]

Seriously, the worst possible end to 18 month saga. I don't know.

[Jackie Oshry]

Worst possible end.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah.

[Jackie Oshry]

Now we were doing a good job of like keeping the show light because I felt like, you know, even before, obviously that's what's on everyone's mind today. That's what our mind was on. And then we did our toasty thing and I was feeling a little better, but we had.

[Claudia Oshry]

Now I feel worse.

[Jackie Oshry]

Of course, mention it. Now I feel worse. We are gonna find a way to pivot as we always do and like, let's do that. Let's. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Last night, it's just gonna be like, a hard left turn. And Claudia didn't throw up.

[Claudia Oshry]

Just move on. Like, I didn't throw up in my sleep last night, which was amazing.

[Jackie Oshry]

And I only peed and my car parked itself.

[Claudia Oshry]

Wins are aplenty. Okay. They are abound. I. This particular hotel has probably the best blackout curtain I've ever had in my life.

[Jackie Oshry]

Get the brand. Like, just peep.

[Claudia Oshry]

It's, like, motorized. It's like a whole thing.

[Jackie Oshry]

Get the fabric.

[Claudia Oshry]

Brand about the fabric. It's about the cut.

[Jackie Oshry]

She doesn't want solutions.

[Claudia Oshry]

No, it's been really, really fabulous. Like, I can't stress enough. Like, don't ever. For the next couple of years, don't think that Jackie and I are on bad terms. Like, I'm just never staying at her house again.

[Jackie Oshry]

No, it's. It's.

[Claudia Oshry]

Even though she just redid my bedroom for me. Sorry.

[Jackie Oshry]

It's okay. I use it as, like, a content room.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah, you do make a lot of content in that.

[Jackie Oshry]

I do because it's so party and, like, it's right next to the studio, so it's like my little office.

[Claudia Oshry]

Okay. What kind of business y'all in? You an office?

[Jackie Oshry]

I have an office.

[Claudia Oshry]

You know, I have an office.

[Jackie Oshry]

I work out of home now.

[Claudia Oshry]

I have an office out of the home back in New York. I don't know if you know.

[Jackie Oshry]

Oh, that's true. Oh, I guess you do work out of the home. Oh, yeah, all the time.

[Claudia Oshry]

Oh, I qumute. I'm a qumuter.

[Jackie Oshry]

Commuting. Like, I was listening to such bops this morning. Timber. Teenage dreams.

[Claudia Oshry]

It's going down.

[Jackie Oshry]

Bang, bang. I was having so much fun. It's really important how you like. I know a lot of people come in. It's probably dreadful, but, like, it sets the tone. I feel like there are ways, of course, when you're done listening to the toast, where you can make it fun.

[Claudia Oshry]

I don't want to complain because your husband has been so generous in lending Ben and I his car for the weekend, but his apple carplay.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah. Is. Has. He has the old phone.

[Claudia Oshry]

He has the old phone. So the cord to connect apple carplay is a phone that. So I've been driving in silence.

[Jackie Oshry]

Why don't you turn on 100.7? Why 100?

[Claudia Oshry]

I don't really know how to do that. And because I've been wearing my hair on a slick back claw clip, I've been driving in silence with a claw Clip digging into the.

[Jackie Oshry]

That's so insane.

[Claudia Oshry]

I know how dangerous it is. It's kind of like a miserable commute. Not to make everything about me.

[Jackie Oshry]

Oh, I'm so sorry. But at least you had your coffee. I mean, you can't have a cigarette, so that's sad. One thing about I saw someone in front of me at a red light, like, ashing their cigarette. Bogan, like, got a spare.

[Claudia Oshry]

Something about being pregnant, like, are pulled.

[Jackie Oshry]

Up by itself right next to it. Right.

[Claudia Oshry]

Something about being pregnant is like, you really. You don't crave it. The days can be really hard and sometimes it would just be nice to top off the day with a little sig, you know?

[Jackie Oshry]

What about a drink?

[Claudia Oshry]

I mean, no, in the beginning of pregnancy, I was like on here and I feel like in the vlog, I was talking about how, you know, I was always really concerned. Not concerned, but it always scared me a little bit that, like, you know, you would be pregnant for 10 months and then like, obviously postpartum, you don't have a drink for like a year. And I'm such a social drinker. I love to go out and have a cocktail. And that was something that really scared me. And then I was like, well, it's actually been amazing. I don't mean the alcohol. I've been missing alcohol, like, a little bit more. Especially at the wedding when we were at the henna. I don't know if I mentioned I went to a multicultural event.

[Jackie Oshry]

And what ethnicity exactly?

[Claudia Oshry]

Well, the bride was Moroccan.

[Jackie Oshry]

Oh, okay.

[Claudia Oshry]

And the groom was Syrian. But funny story, I won't make you. I won't say it again. When I walked into the henna. Exactly. Spoiler alert. When I walked into the henna, it was like on the ocean. I was like, honestly, I could like, would so kill for a cocktail. And then I was on the beach and I was like, with all my friends from high school, and I was like, I could really use a cocktail. I just find myself more and more saying, I could really use a cocktail. Whereas in the beginning I was like, I don't even miss it.

[Jackie Oshry]

That's so funny. I was actually thinking, like, when I'm driving, I get, like, really stressed out. I'm like, I kind of need a drink.

[Claudia Oshry]

Oh, that's funny.

[Jackie Oshry]

Like, while I drive, just to relax.

[Claudia Oshry]

I don't know what we are going to talk about on this show. Like, when you finally just settle into being a driver.

[Jackie Oshry]

Because I don't think I ever will.

[Claudia Oshry]

Because when you're in high school and you get your license like, it's all fun, but eventually it's something where it's like, if your mom asks you to go get eggs, you're like, ugh. No. Whereas in high school, you're like, yeah, I'll go get eggs. Anybody else need anything?

[Jackie Oshry]

Putting down the window, blasting the music, you're just like, ugh.

[Claudia Oshry]

At some point, it loses its novelty and it just becomes, like, a means to an end.

[Jackie Oshry]

So the more I drive, like, especially today, like, my commute was the same. I was on the same street. So it will start to lose its luster. But I do think if you get your license at 16 and then, like, when does it lose its luster?

[Claudia Oshry]

I feel like pretty quickly.

[Jackie Oshry]

I don't know. I'm going on two years now. But everything I do is, like, new. Sometimes I also think, like, this summer. I didn't really drive last summer in the Hamptons at all this summer, like, I planned to. I won't ever stop talking about it.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah. Did you guys know New York? You can't make it right unread. One thing about Jackie, if you get in the car with her, it's like, you kind of have to know. The narration begins, like.

[Jackie Oshry]

Like, if someone. I feel like a lot of people who know me not closely, but, like, acquaintances probably. I'm actually kind of quiet. I don't talk a lot. And especially, like, yeah, I just. And sometimes I'm tired. But also, I'm just not a big talker.

[Claudia Oshry]

When you talk for a living, like, you don't want to talk elsewhere.

[Jackie Oshry]

I know. I. Like, I'm kind of shy. I think you guys know that now about me. Like, I'm shy. I'm very introverted. That's why I've taken to the Internet. But. And so I think some people are like, wait, this girl, like, talks for a living. And she's not talking to me. Like, maybe she doesn't like me. Just get me in the car. Just ask me to drive you somewhere. Just ask me to drive you something.

[Claudia Oshry]

But she's not talking about anything interesting other than what's going on. She is narrating, oh, get out of my lane. I'm like. And sometimes. The last time you drove me was two days ago after the toast. We'd like a lot going on. We had to upload. I'm like, busy on my phone. And you're just like, can you believe that red car? I'm like, no, I wasn't paying attention. I'm busy.

[Jackie Oshry]

Well, okay. Sue me.

[Claudia Oshry]

She's just chatting.

[Jackie Oshry]

Sue me for being Excited. I feel like we should bring back exciting commutes. I know. There's also been a lot of discourse recently about, like, back to office work. And, you know, I typically.

[Claudia Oshry]

I. Jackie doesn't like to.

[Jackie Oshry]

I stopped wading into it after you guys lost your goddamn minds. But, like, very much, like, the world is on my side now. Like, you've seen.

[Claudia Oshry]

I just want to say, if the CEO of JP Morgan ever becomes single, you absolutely need to pursue him as a life partner, because you, nobody, no two people have been more vocal about getting, like, Americans back in the office than you. And you guys take so much for it. You and JP Morgan. CEO. What's his name? Jamie.

[Jackie Oshry]

Jamie Diamond.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah. He's so classic. Like, he's always making. They're like, well. And for some reason, I know he has, like, a really important job, but for some reason, every time he says something, it's the CEO of JP Morgan, and he's always waiting into the room about work conversation, as are you.

[Jackie Oshry]

I. I stopped, like, once. You know, I made my position clear. People didn't like it. I had nothing left to say, so that was it. But now it's back in the conversation. Like, people are going back to work, and I would just encourage you to, like, make it fun. Make the commute fun. Listen to something great. Find a great playlist. Grab a coffee, cigarette, whatever you need. Grab a cigarette, like, on your way to work.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah.

[Jackie Oshry]

And because the thing is, you have to go back to work regardless of me. You have to go back to the office. Right. What do you want to do about it? You want to mope about it or you want to make it exciting? Like you're a teenager again and you just got your first car.

[Claudia Oshry]

I'm ready for big tobacco to start sponsoring the toast. Like, that's kind of money I need to live.

[Jackie Oshry]

I agree. And I feel like they've been barred by the FCC from advertising everywhere. They can't even, like, advertise on their own packages. Yeah, there's, like, surgeon general warnings instead.

[Claudia Oshry]

You will die if you smoke this. And people are still buying it.

[Jackie Oshry]

They love America. They, like, can't even have their branding on their cigarettes. Like, it comes in just a carton. I don't think there's laws in podcasting yet. This is still the Wild West.

[Claudia Oshry]

There definitely is.

[Jackie Oshry]

Like, Philip Morris.

[Claudia Oshry]

We can be bought, and it's for less money than you think.

[Jackie Oshry]

It depends on. For Philip Morris, it's less money than you think. Like, for a smaller brand. I think it's, like, more money than.

[Claudia Oshry]

You think, you know, for like a local owned business, you can't afford us. No kidding. Okay. We actually like Dilly dallied a little too close to the sun.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah, we did. But the good news is, is that, like, there's not wi fi here today. I barely have stories up, so it's just.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah, it's just one of those days.

[Jackie Oshry]

Without further ado, here are the fast five stories that you need to know.

[Claudia Oshry]

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[Jackie Oshry]

He was thinking of one.

[Claudia Oshry]

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[Jackie Oshry]

Thank you, coach.

[Claudia Oshry]

You know it's getting harder to breathe during the ads. Like I understand, you know me, I'm a fast talking swirly. But it's getting harder to breathe period.

[Jackie Oshry]

You did a good job but eventually it will be not feasible. So we'll have to cut it eventually.

[Claudia Oshry]

Like it might have to be your job because I actually can't breathe.

[Jackie Oshry]

Or we'll do like one ad after every story. People will love that.

[Claudia Oshry]

You, you will love it.

[Jackie Oshry]

You will love it. Our first story in like no particular order. The stories are like good but really random today. So just like don't judge. Oh, I was going to, but no, no, I'm telling you.

[Claudia Oshry]

Okay.

[Jackie Oshry]

Cynthia Riva will host the 2025 Tony Oscar. Tony Oscars ceremony. So Cindy Arriva will host the Tony awards this June. This Marks the first time her hosting. She obviously has a background in Broadway and now she will play host at the Tony Awards.

[Claudia Oshry]

That feels right.

[Jackie Oshry]

I feel like she shouldn't have to work this hard.

[Claudia Oshry]

I agree.

[Jackie Oshry]

It's kind of like she's so talented. Like, hosting is for people who like, don't have, like, like conventional talents. Like, you know, like me. Like, and so you make the most of your personality. But, like, when you are this level of singer.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah. Hosting is also not for people who would ever be nominated at this particular event. Like, I'm pretty sure she has been nominated and even won. Tony's like, you, you can sit.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah. I mean, this is like, really great and exciting for the fans. I just like, it's a really. It's hard work.

[Claudia Oshry]

She's had a hard year. She's been like, busy working, traveling, promoting, filming.

[Jackie Oshry]

I do think, like, the Tonys are less cutthroat than the Golden Globes and the Oscars. Mostly because, like, people don't really them and no, like, just straight facts. Like, because we didn't all see every Broadway show. It's like you have to go to Broadway and then you probably see one show even.

[Claudia Oshry]

It's a little niche.

[Jackie Oshry]

Even if you take a trip to Broadway, like, you probably see one show.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah.

[Jackie Oshry]

Or maybe two.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah.

[Jackie Oshry]

And the fact that they're both nominated for Tony's, like, what are the odds? It's very niche. So that's why people aren't as hard about it. I think it's just a small community and they support their own. So I think, like, everyone be nice to Cynthia. But it's like, you gotta. You gotta work really hard. So I just don't know why she would want to do that when she's just so talented.

[Claudia Oshry]

She's also at a level where, like, you don't have to take gigs like this anymore. It's very much like an up and coming kind of thing.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah. Unless, like, she wants to do more hosting, in which case I would. I would say again, like, why?

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah, I don't think she wants to do more hosting. Like, people who are like given roles like Alphabet, like, they don't have. Hosting is something you kind of have to do.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah.

[Claudia Oshry]

Not want.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah. Or it's like if the career is stalled or whatever. But, like, all she has to do is sing and the jobs will come.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah. I feel like at first I was like, oh, this is duh, sure, give it to Cynthia. But why would she want to work this hard?

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah. And hopefully she'll sing during the show. You know, maybe do, like, an opening musical number. Jackman.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah.

[Jackie Oshry]

But again, that's a lot of work.

[Claudia Oshry]

Like, why you think Sutton and he will be there? Maybe, like, I do. Me, too. Because they're like. They're out of Broadway.

[Jackie Oshry]

She's the toast of the town. He's been the toast.

[Claudia Oshry]

They were the toast last year, but they weren't a couple while they were doing the Music man together.

[Jackie Oshry]

They are a sandwich.

[Claudia Oshry]

They are so Broadway.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah. Hear the sounds of marching feet on the avenue I'm taking you to 42nd Street.

[Claudia Oshry]

It's Parchee. Oh. Somebody yesterday sounded off in the comments, as we had requested. What is the antonym of Parji? I don't know if you saw it, but garbage. I thought that was really good. I thought it was really good.

[Jackie Oshry]

I. I'm open. Someone said, Nargi.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yes. Somebody. Me. I said that twice on the show yesterday.

[Jackie Oshry]

And I. I stand by that. It shouldn't rhyme with okay.

[Claudia Oshry]

Oh, and I meant to tell you this offline, but it could be an online conversation as well. The way we've been saying, like, you know, we take a word and we manipulate it. Gorgeous. Gargy. And now we're saying. We're saying it like, Perchy, the Queen's boyfriend, Porchy.

[Jackie Oshry]

I know. That's what. We already had this conversation, like, a few months ago. Remember? We were like. We were having a parge off.

[Claudia Oshry]

Oh, you.

[Jackie Oshry]

And you actually talked about it on the show. You said. You said something so funny when you were like, that loaf is so Queen Elizabeth's little boyfriend.

[Claudia Oshry]

Can I tell you, Parchee, when you are as funny as I am, but you also have, like, such a bad memory. Life is so exciting because you're constantly being reminded of hysterical things you said. No.

[Jackie Oshry]

Or you get to, like, experience it twice yet again. The first time you laugh so hard, Porcie. And the second time, it's hilarious. Literally, we were going back and forth. I think I made a pargie loaf. And so we were saying, this loaf is pargy. Pargy Hardy.

[Claudia Oshry]

Did you make a pargie loaf in the sense that you made a loaf of bread or you took a good poo?

[Jackie Oshry]

In the sense that I made a loaf of bread because we weren't both standing around the toilet bowl talking about it.

[Claudia Oshry]

But wouldn't it have been fun if we were.

[Jackie Oshry]

Maybe next time. And I said, this loaf is like Queen Elizabeth's little boyfriend, Barchi. And you laugh.

[Claudia Oshry]

That's funny. Like, that is a funny joke.

[Jackie Oshry]

And you laugh so much in the moment. And then you came on the show. And you told everyone the funny thing that I said so they will remember. The north remembers.

[Claudia Oshry]

That's so nice of me to, like, highlight a funny offline moment of yours.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah.

[Claudia Oshry]

So I just want to say I'm in hell. Oh, no, I'm not. I thought I forgot my Tums.

[Jackie Oshry]

Oh, I'm glad for you.

[Claudia Oshry]

I'm also ready for my sponsorship. Just saying.

[Jackie Oshry]

Okay. Crunch, crunch, crunch. Do you take one or two?

[Claudia Oshry]

One. I feel like you take two in a sitting. Like. Like you take two Advil.

[Jackie Oshry]

I take two in a sitting. The back says, like, one or two, but, like, why not two?

[Claudia Oshry]

Oh, that's very interesting. I've always only taken one. Also in my pregnancy. Like, if I. If I really took a tum every time I was even remotely uncomfortable, I'd have 15 a day.

[Jackie Oshry]

I try to keep only have like five a day.

[Claudia Oshry]

Actually, Dr. Fox, I said, is there such thing as, like, overdosing? He was like, no. And then somebody in my DMs, like, I got a kidney stone when I was pregnant from how many times I took.

[Jackie Oshry]

Read the back. It says how many you should take in 24 hours.

[Claudia Oshry]

Dr. Fox says they're a great source of calcium, but of course, consult your doctor.

[Jackie Oshry]

But you could have, like, calcium overdose. You could overdose on calcium. Very sad.

[Claudia Oshry]

Why is there a section of this label that says inactive ingredients? Like, why would I need to know what's not in here?

[Jackie Oshry]

That's not what it is. That's not what that means. That's not in there.

[Claudia Oshry]

Do not take more than seven tablets in 24 hours. Okay, I'm keeping it under four.

[Jackie Oshry]

And also the fact that it's an odd number means at one point, like, you did take just one.

[Claudia Oshry]

When you take two at a time.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah, Then I can only go to six. And then, like, I get a bonus one.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah, I guess, like right before bed. Like a little top off.

[Jackie Oshry]

No, that's when you need the two. Maybe in the morning a little. Start the day, ease in.

[Claudia Oshry]

Not to rub in, but, you know they leave a chocolate on my pillow at this hotel. You never did that at your house. And it's a caramel chocolate.

[Jackie Oshry]

Like one Valentine's Day, I got you heart chocolate.

[Claudia Oshry]

Oh, you did? Okay, yeah. One. I meant they do it every night at this place.

[Jackie Oshry]

Sure, sure.

[Claudia Oshry]

And it's usually, I think, like, chocolates on your pillow. They give you, like, the worst chocolate. Like, I don't know where they picked this up from. This one was a caramel milk chocolate. It was really gone.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yummo.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah. And now I know why I'm, like, choking on my own vomit in my sleep. Because I'm eating caramel.

[Jackie Oshry]

You have to stop eating, like, after, so you have to have dinner and be done. And it's really hard. That's seriously the hardest part.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah, I'd rather throw up in my sleep, honestly.

[Jackie Oshry]

Okay, then just wait.

[Claudia Oshry]

Go to bed without supper.

[Jackie Oshry]

Just wait. But just wait.

[Claudia Oshry]

Go to bed without supper. Is that an option for me?

[Jackie Oshry]

No supper. And then call it a date.

[Claudia Oshry]

Sorry. Go into bed without two suppers. Okay. It's not an option for me.

[Jackie Oshry]

Our next story, Olivia Munn is recalling a traumatic experience on a movie set and a disrespectful seven figure settlement that she turned down. So Olivia Munn went on Monica Lewinsky's podcast called Reclaiming.

[Claudia Oshry]

Okay, I've heard of none of this.

[Jackie Oshry]

And she shared that while filming a movie, which she did not specify. However, like, people are speculating.

[Claudia Oshry]

She also hasn't done, like, a million movies.

[Jackie Oshry]

And she talks about the time that it was in. So it's like, we can figure it out. DB there's no WI fi.

[Claudia Oshry]

Oh, right.

[Jackie Oshry]

Said that she had a traumatic experience that led her reporting issues to the movie studio. So she said I had to file complaints with the studio, and there's a lot of other things that go along with it. But I got to this place where I was offered a lot of money. Seven figures to accept, I guess their apology, and then taking acknowledgment of it.

[Claudia Oshry]

But seven figures is a minimum $10 million. But it could be 99, right?

[Jackie Oshry]

Minimum 1 million.

[Claudia Oshry]

Oh, my God.

[Jackie Oshry]

Wait, seven figures is a million dollars? So between 1 and 9 million.

[Claudia Oshry]

Oh, that was, like, really embarrassing. Oh, I. I don't know why when you say like, six figures, I think of, like, the six zeros.

[Jackie Oshry]

I understand.

[Claudia Oshry]

You understand how I got to this place. But it's unacceptable either way.

[Jackie Oshry]

It's just like. And it also really changes things because, no, she wasn't offered up to a $99 million.

[Claudia Oshry]

$99 million. Okay. So she was offered because, honestly, what I thought it was between 10 and 99 million. I'm like, like, damn, even I'm not that scruple. Like, take the money.

[Jackie Oshry]

Of course. That's why changing money, it doesn't matter what happens next because you can retire right.

[Claudia Oshry]

Between 1 and 9 is different for somebody at her tax bracket.

[Jackie Oshry]

And I also feel like it's leaning closer to one because I feel like when it's like 5 million, people will say mid seven figures, right?

[Claudia Oshry]

When it's five. Right, right.

[Jackie Oshry]

Or they'll say, high seven figures.

[Claudia Oshry]

You could, like. You can manipulate this type of language to, like, either.

[Jackie Oshry]

People do it all the time. And, like, I'm reading their, like, Business Insider thing. I'm like, how much money? And it's confounding, and it's intentionally, like, confusing. And she didn't want to say. So I'm. I was. When I read this, I'm seeing a million. A cool mil. Just a million.

[Claudia Oshry]

Two or three.

[Jackie Oshry]

She said seven figures to accept, I guess, their apology, them taking acknowledgment and signing an NDA.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yikes.

[Jackie Oshry]

She says she never considered discussing publicly what took place on the set. She just wanted to move on past it all. Still, she did not want to sign the NDA. She noted that these events took place during the resurgence of the MeToo movement, which gained momentum in 2017. So in 2018, she was filming a movie called the Predator. So that's what we can glean this. What happened?

[Claudia Oshry]

Okay.

[Jackie Oshry]

Something happened. She reported it. They wanted her to sign an NDA and take this money to, like, not say anything about it publicly, which she didn't sign it. She didn't say anything, like, until now. But she actually made a really good point. In addition to, you know, all the fire points that she made, which she said that comes into the feistiness and about thinking things through and being so upset and frustrated that this would be the offer. To me, I did not think about negotiating. I did not think about anything besides how disrespectful that was. She said that, like, if she had signed it, she was afraid that they, like, then the studio would leak that she signed an NDA and people would, like, say, oh, you only did it for the money. She was afraid that her voice and speaking up would just reverse any kind of validity to her voice because, like.

[Claudia Oshry]

The fact that these are things you have to think about, like, if you go through something traumatic, take the money.

[Jackie Oshry]

I don't give a. Yeah, well, like, I don't know, a million dollars to Olivia on, like, is that worth.

[Claudia Oshry]

No.

[Jackie Oshry]

Is that worth also kind of the potential of losing your credibility?

[Claudia Oshry]

No.

[Jackie Oshry]

That's how she felt.

[Claudia Oshry]

And once you get a label like that, as a woman in Hollywood, like, they just destroy you with it. So it is powerful. And. And you're right. When I thought it was seven figures, like, 10 to $99 million.

[Jackie Oshry]

Sure. Take my credibility, right?

[Claudia Oshry]

Who cares about credibility? I have a mansion.

[Jackie Oshry]

Like, I'm retired, and I have a.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yacht, but in California you know, with those high taxes. But also I do.

[Jackie Oshry]

Right. This would be less than 500,000 after taxes.

[Claudia Oshry]

Like, she's now married to John Mulaney, who does extremely well financially. You think 1,000%.

[Jackie Oshry]

Like, how much?

[Claudia Oshry]

He tours non stop.

[Jackie Oshry]

Okay.

[Claudia Oshry]

He tours arenas. He has multiple Netflix specials. I'm sure he had, like, a. Like a multi.

[Jackie Oshry]

Like a 20 million dollar three special deal.

[Claudia Oshry]

Correct. He's just kind of the darling of, like, he's. He's an extreme. He's one of the highest paid comedians right now. Okay, so you want. Are you asking for, like, so what's.

[Jackie Oshry]

So what were you gonna say next?

[Claudia Oshry]

Oh, so like, her financial situation now is different, but I think at 28 in 2018, at the time, like, she's out. Not a really, like, successful actress. She's like a successful famous person. Do you know what I mean? So that money actually could have meant more to her than we realized. Because I'm thinking of her now. Like, I know she lives in this, like, beachfront oasis, but she's in a different financial situation now.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah.

[Claudia Oshry]

Than she was in 2018. Because I never even heard of this movie the Predator. Okay. So she's obviously, like, taking roles.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah.

[Claudia Oshry]

For the work. She's like a working actress. Yeah. A million dollars is a lot to a working address. Even if it was minimum a million dollars.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah. So good for her.

[Claudia Oshry]

1,000% scrupled. It's very beyond a chicken fry.

[Jackie Oshry]

Right. But she was offered, like, so much more. That's even crazier.

[Claudia Oshry]

Did you see the bar fight that Zach Ryan got into?

[Jackie Oshry]

I saw that he got into a.

[Claudia Oshry]

Bar fight, which is uninteresting because he's like. So the bar fight type. Like, he has the body of somebody who just fights in bars. But the more interesting thing is that, like, the whole thing was recorded on a pair of those, like, Ray Ban meta AI. Because the guy was like, I don't even know who you are. It's like, well, why are you recording on your Ray Ban glasses? So the whole thing is kind of like, from a visual perspective. You see him at, like, truly a pov.

[Jackie Oshry]

Zach fighting Zach Bryan.

[Claudia Oshry]

And then I think he said, like, you're so gay or something. And everybody's like, you know, Zach Bryan said that? Yeah. He used the G word. And not in a negative way. Correct. Which I don't think there's a positive way to use the G word in a bar fight.

[Jackie Oshry]

No, no, but there's a positive way to use that word. Like, it means happy also, of course, of Course.

[Claudia Oshry]

And like, gay is fabulous. But it wasn't. Zach Ryan was not saying gay is fabulous. Yes.

[Jackie Oshry]

That's really crazy.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah. So not a good day to be Zach Bryan.

[Jackie Oshry]

No. So go. Go Olivia Munn.

[Claudia Oshry]

Go, Olivia, go. And look at you. Have seen women in podcasting making news.

[Jackie Oshry]

Are you ready for our next story? Which is some interesting news that people are talking about that we hadn't spoken about. But there is a woman on the Internet named Bonnie Blue. I think, like separately we've each heard.

[Claudia Oshry]

Of her and she comes up all over my Twitter. I found like, I everything I know about this woman, which is quite a lot I know against my will.

[Jackie Oshry]

Like, I know because she's doing people's podcasts and I get clips. And then recently she did Sophia with an F, which I follow. So I got like a lot of her stuff. But I already knew who she was. And she is famous for sleeping with a thousand men over.

[Claudia Oshry]

She's like an only fans creator. She's like a sex worker creator, but recently shot to fame because she does these challenges first. She did like 100 men in 12 hours. And the most recent one that shook the Internet was she slept with a thousand men in a day. And actually think she went over.

[Jackie Oshry]

She did. She did. 1057. Right? Men in under 24 hours.

[Claudia Oshry]

Overachiever.

[Jackie Oshry]

A couple things. First, there's another girl who does this too. They're like, they're both blonde British girls. Yeah.

[Claudia Oshry]

It's extremely confusing because they each do challenges. Like clickbait challenges. Come with me. Get ready with me. Who's to a thousand guys?

[Jackie Oshry]

I saw the other girl. Cuz I saw her like describing like, her labiaplasty.

[Claudia Oshry]

I think her name. I think her name is Lily. And I just want to say something and I'm going to say the thing that I feel like you're not supposed to say as a woman. Okay. I think that this is disgusting. Like, I know we are support. We're supposed to support, like, embrace the sexual revolution. We've revolutionized a little too close to the sun. I think that this is disgusting. I think this person is disgusting. Like, and I'm sorry, I know I'm supposed to like, support all women. I don't. I don't support this. I think this is disgusting. Like, why on what on earth would come. Besides money. But even at some point, there's not enough money in the world to make you do certain things.

[Jackie Oshry]

No. And like, honestly, sleeping with a thousand randos, is that the best? If it's about money, is that the best way to get paid, like, you could become like a high end prostitute. You could make more money and sleep with less people and, like, you know, protect that bit of yourself a bit more. And I know we're. Yes, of course we're not supposed to shame, but like, this is really shameful.

[Claudia Oshry]

I agree. I'm having a hard time being like a supportive woman right now.

[Jackie Oshry]

I don't think, I don't think you're expected to be a supportive woman. Like, this is beyond the pale.

[Claudia Oshry]

No.

[Jackie Oshry]

And I think we took it too far because as a society we can't say, like, this is not the greatest thing for women. Then we've completely lost the plot. So I do think it's important that we can say that.

[Claudia Oshry]

Like, I think we took it really too far. You know, at first it was like, we're not calling prostitutes. It's sex worker and it's a beautiful thing. And it was all good. And now I'm just like, should we stop? Like, yeah, we're doing a lot. So I just want to say before we dive into whatever. Oh, she's pregnant, right? That's the story.

[Jackie Oshry]

So the story is that she is apparently pregnant. Now, Maury Povich has waited in and said good luck to Bonnie. Like, I don't want to be a part of this because. Because the question is, like, who's the father when there's a thousand men in 24 hours. And that's not to mention all the other hours of the other days in her personal life.

[Claudia Oshry]

This is her professional life.

[Jackie Oshry]

I can't imagine she would do this challenge when she's ovulating.

[Claudia Oshry]

Okay. I can't imagine she's not on any birth control. The thing is, it's not been confirmed.

[Jackie Oshry]

That she's pre birth control. But like, when you have like a thousand semen counts, it's only 99 effective.

[Claudia Oshry]

So if there's a thousand semens, you.

[Jackie Oshry]

Have like, and if on your day of ovulation, like, you will most likely get pregnant. I have to imagine she didn't do this on ovulation day. This seems like a follicular phase sort of thing.

[Claudia Oshry]

Also, are they ejaculating inside of her?

[Jackie Oshry]

I think so.

[Claudia Oshry]

In order to count, like, yeah, I believe so.

[Jackie Oshry]

Definitely with. I actually, I can't say definitely and I didn't watch and I'm sure if you watch, like, you would know, but probably with a condom.

[Claudia Oshry]

So it's not confirmed that she's actually pregnant. And I do feel like so much.

[Jackie Oshry]

Of her actually, maybe not with a Condom. I do think they all get tested.

[Claudia Oshry]

Not with a condom.

[Jackie Oshry]

I don't know. I. I don't know.

[Claudia Oshry]

I'm just saying it's not confirmed that she's pregnant. And so much love. So much of her career is, like, clickbait. And so I think there's a possibility that this is not true. And if it is true, I'm feeling conflicted because this might be the one thing that could save this girl, you know, like. But I do feel she's too far gone. I don't think there's anything that's gonna, like, bring her back.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah. Especially because when you see clips of her, it doesn't seem like she's lost her mind.

[Claudia Oshry]

No, no. She's extremely sound of mind. She's very proud of herself.

[Jackie Oshry]

She is. Like, she explains, like, her rationale for doing the. Some of the things that she does, like, how she has sex with, like, a father and son and says it's, like, so good for their relationship. How she has sex with, like, college or jail bait. Yeah, they're. They're not minors, but they're very, very young. Like, schoolboys or. That sounds like elementary school, but in Britain, it's like, college, uni, uni. And she says how it's, like, better that they have this experience with her than someone else because she's a safe space. Like, she. Everyone's her without a condom, but they're getting tested. And I. Maybe mental health counseling. She provides.

[Claudia Oshry]

Okay. So I had seen a clip on Twitter.

[Jackie Oshry]

Oh, she's also good for married men who want to have an affair because they're not fault. Like, she's not connecting with them in an emotional way. So, like, here come like. Like, drop your sperm and. And leave.

[Claudia Oshry]

Actually, like, I'm a nice girl. I really can't handle this conversation. I saw a clip of her. She was, like, getting upset. I'm like, oh, my God. Is she finally, like, having remorse for, like, this disgusting life she leads? No, she had, like. Like, it was one of her challenges. Like, 75 guys in 75 minutes or whatever. And she started crying because she felt, like, really upset that, like, some of the guys didn't get enough time with her. I'm like, she's crazy. She likes crazy. I'm sorry. I just. I'm gonna say the thing. Like, I hate this bitch. I think she's disgusting. And, like, the words that you're not supposed to think and use for a woman, Like, I think of her like, she's a slut. I'm sorry. Like, I hate it not even a slut. Like, this is biblical. She's literally, like, a whore. I'm sorry. It's disgusting.

[Jackie Oshry]

It is. You know what? The other lady of plastic.

[Claudia Oshry]

And I don't want to hear it from, like, the women charity. Like, we have to support. We don't actually. So many are not supportive of me. Okay. So I'm not gonna be supportive of the woman who slept with a thousand guys. Okay. And I was pregnant.

[Jackie Oshry]

I understand the labiaplasty girl. And now I remember. I remember how I discovered her, because I saw a clip. She was on a podcast, and I don't remember who the inner. Who she was talking to, but I feel like it was someone, like, conservative.

[Claudia Oshry]

It's Candace Owens. I know what you're talking about. And yes, she was on, like, the full send podcast or one of those podcasts where they brought together this, like, professional.

[Jackie Oshry]

I think it was the way I remembered. I think it was a man, but tell me what happened.

[Claudia Oshry]

And this very conservative woman. It was kind of like a great experiment. They brought, like, these two, and they had them out. And I think Candace was like, jesus will save you. Is your mother okay with this? Let me be your mother. And the woman was like, I'm fine. Get the fuck away from me. Like, it was really fudgeing crazy.

[Jackie Oshry]

Okay. What I saw was. I think it was a man. I think it was. I don't remember who it was.

[Claudia Oshry]

I think she also did an interview that went viral on Piers Morgan.

[Jackie Oshry]

Maybe it was Piers Morgan, but I feel like I would have remembered that it was someone talking to Labiapasti Lily.

[Claudia Oshry]

And at the end, it's, like, so losing in the. In the fame game of being a professional whore.

[Jackie Oshry]

Right. Which is good for her, actually, at the. I think she, you know, stated her claims throughout the interview. And at the end of the interview, the guy was like, I just want you to know that you have choices.

[Claudia Oshry]

And it's Piers Morgan.

[Jackie Oshry]

It's okay. And he gave her, like, a really uplifting speech. I don't know if it affected her whatsoever, but it was nice to hear. He was just like, you are loved. You have choices. You don't have to do this if you are not happy. It was, like, really nice of him.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah. In that clip and also the one with. With Candace Owens that went viral, there was, like, a lot of, like, body language experts tuning in, and they. They did. There was, like, a pretty big group of people who thought that both the interviews really got through to her. She's been kind of quiet ever Since. So maybe. But I think she's been quiet because Bonnie said, hold my beer. I'm going a thousand. Yeah, she's batting a thousand.

[Jackie Oshry]

Should we have Bonnie on here and maybe talk to her?

[Claudia Oshry]

No. Because you want to know what? Like, I will not participate in this.

[Jackie Oshry]

I agree. Like.

[Claudia Oshry]

Like, I think even I feel it's.

[Jackie Oshry]

Really not my problem. Like, I don't know her. She's like, so this is not my place. She's someone. Like, she's just someone else's problem. Like, yeah.

[Claudia Oshry]

She's not even American. Like, it's not even an American problem.

[Jackie Oshry]

It's not America's problem. I'm sure we have our own problems. And we.

[Claudia Oshry]

I'm sure it's our Bonnie who's, like, the American Bonnie.

[Jackie Oshry]

I don't know. Someone's gonna step up to the.

[Claudia Oshry]

I'm actually really glad we don't have one. Like, that comes to mind immediately. I'm sure there are people who do this for a living, but, like. Like, we have a lot of issues in our country, so just, like, leave us out of this one.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah. So that's how I feel. So that's why, like, I wouldn't invite her on the toes, but it's actually cool that she went on Sophia with an apple for Sophia.

[Claudia Oshry]

I actually wouldn't invite her on the toes because I just sat here and called her a. And a slut.

[Jackie Oshry]

I think. I actually think she wouldn't care. I think she'd say thanks. Like, you see me.

[Claudia Oshry]

And at what point, like, it's kind of harks back to what we were saying at the beginning of the show. I'm not saying anything mean. I'm saying truthful whores have sex for money. Like, that's what you do.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah. It's just facts.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah. I wonder how much she gets paid. I feel like it's not enough.

[Claudia Oshry]

I feel so much better having said that. Like, I'm just, like, tired of pretending like, I have to support all women, you know? I don't. I don't know when I pretended, because, you guys know. I don't.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah. I will be shocked if, like, anything about what we just said is controversial. No, I'm telling you, like, it feels very obvious.

[Claudia Oshry]

No, it's, like, all about the sexual revolution. And to be honest, this isn't.

[Jackie Oshry]

I just don't think this is what they meant.

[Claudia Oshry]

No, that's what I mean. We revolutionized far too close to the sun.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah, it's. What's the opposite of revolution Retreat?

[Claudia Oshry]

I don't know. It's just like stop, stop.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah.

[Claudia Oshry]

What's the antonym of revolution?

[Jackie Oshry]

If we had Wi Fi, we could go to thesaurus.com. let's see. Like, like, like regression.

[Claudia Oshry]

Oh yeah, let's regress the sexual regression. I'm, I'm all for it.

[Jackie Oshry]

Source.com. yeah, no Wi Fi. Moving on to our next story.

[Claudia Oshry]

What number?

[Jackie Oshry]

It's not. You're not ready.

[Claudia Oshry]

Oh, oh, I'm not ready. Okay. No, yeah, you're right. Shit. Oh fuck. I'm not, I'm so not ready. Hold on. What number is it? Four.

[Jackie Oshry]

It's number four. But things are about to like get weird from here, so just. Yeah, this is when the Wi Fi crept up.

[Claudia Oshry]

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[Jackie Oshry]

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[Claudia Oshry]

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[Jackie Oshry]

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[Claudia Oshry]

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[Jackie Oshry]

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[Claudia Oshry]

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[Jackie Oshry]

Thank you. Turtle yet.

[Claudia Oshry]

Welcome.

[Jackie Oshry]

Our next story. Delta is offering passengers who were on the plane that crashed in Toronto and flipped over. They're offering passengers $30,000 in exchange for their experience.

[Claudia Oshry]

I have two things to say.

[Jackie Oshry]

They're also saying that the offer is coming with no strings attached.

[Claudia Oshry]

Right.

[Jackie Oshry]

Which is like really big of them.

[Claudia Oshry]

I didn't see anybody say this. Have you ever seen the Denzel Washington movie Flight?

[Jackie Oshry]

No.

[Claudia Oshry]

Where? Okay, so let me tell you, it's actually such a good movie.

[Jackie Oshry]

You've seen it?

[Claudia Oshry]

Yes. Why are you doubting me?

[Jackie Oshry]

I thought you were just gonna tell me, like, the plot and be like.

[Claudia Oshry]

How would I know the plot if I didn't see it? Oh, it's not based on a true story.

[Jackie Oshry]

Okay.

[Claudia Oshry]

That's what makes this whole thing so freaky. So he's kind of this amazing pilot, Denzel Washington. He just has like this small issue of alcoholism. Okay, so the movie starts, he's like.

[Jackie Oshry]

Waking up hungover, stressful.

[Claudia Oshry]

Of course he's waking up hungover. And he takes off on a flight and immediately something goes wrong on the plane. It's not him. But before things go wrong, he's like making himself mimosas, like, sneakily taking those little airplane and being nuts at the same time. The plane malfunctions, having nothing to do with him or his alcoholism. And he ends up.

[Jackie Oshry]

But he's obviously like, just not of sound mind to like, to deal with it.

[Claudia Oshry]

But actually he dealt with it in kind of the most incredible way. Like, he ends up flying the plane upside down, landing upside down. And of like the hundred passengers, I think maybe three people died. One was like a flight attendant who wasn't buckled in. She was helping this kid. So he's a hero. He. He managed to do the impossible and the plane lands upside down. And that's the similarity I wanted to make. But let me just tell you what ends up happening. So they end up doing an investigation and there's like, you know, unaccounted for empty bottles, and they, like, figure it out. It's this whole thing, but it. Because it's like, well, these people did die. But even if he wasn't drunk, he was an amazing pilot. Like, where do we go from here? How do we. What's the moral equivocation? I think he ends up going to jail. Also to say, when I saw this upside down Delta flight, I was like, oh, my God, Denzel, what are you doing here?

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah, so it wasn't an upside down Delta flight. They landed. They, like, crashed. They landed too hard, and it flipped.

[Claudia Oshry]

And the videos have gone viral, of course, of the plane upside down on the tarmac, but then people filming themselves getting out of the upside down plane.

[Jackie Oshry]

Nobody died, which is amazing.

[Claudia Oshry]

Amazing. And we've just kind of been. This is like the last. The, like, third or fourth and a couple of flight things where everybody's like, what's going on? And we're just waiting to find out, like, who's faulted is.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah, exactly. Delta said that they're offering $30,000 to each passenger who was aboard the flight from Minneapolis that crashed and flipped upside down this week while trying to land in Toronto. All 80 people who were on the flight survived after the jet made the rough landing, 21 were taken to hospitals, but they are offering $30,000, no strings attached.

[Claudia Oshry]

Now, there's a lot of theories about whose fault this is, and I just want to say, as somebody who's had the great misfortune of flying in and out of Toronto Pearson a couple of times, it's 1000% that airport's fault. It is the worst airport on the planet.

[Jackie Oshry]

Just saying, in what sense? Like, what about it makes it something where you, like, fall? Like, where you flip over?

[Claudia Oshry]

It's just like the. It's kind of the atmosphere, like, it's such a toxic place. Like, only bad things can happen there. I'm telling you, it's Tarana Pearson's fault.

[Jackie Oshry]

Well, we'll see whose fault it actually is. I think, like, people have been watching the landing saying they landed way too hard. Like, it's a pilot error. We'll find out.

[Claudia Oshry]

Is it a mechanics error? We'll find out.

[Jackie Oshry]

Now. I never really, like, when something so terrible happens. You're just, like, lucky to have your life in a situation like this. Like, what should and could the airline do for you? And it's like, you can't really put a price on it, but if you were to, like, $30,000 seems low.

[Claudia Oshry]

Well, yes. So I saw this. Ben told me. We were, like, talking about it. I'm like, well, I Hope nobody takes it, because first of all, it impacts their ability to sue. They all have to band together. If any of them takes it, like, it's not good. And then I watched this video that the points guy, Brian Kelly, shared, and he was like, actually, they're still allowed to sue. This is just like Delta. I think, like, PR wise, $30,000 to what, like, 100 passengers? Match tax is really nothing to them. But here we are talking about, like, how magnanimous it is.

[Jackie Oshry]

That's literally not what I'm saying.

[Claudia Oshry]

Oh, oh. But that is what people are saying.

[Jackie Oshry]

Really?

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah. Like, no. Like, it's not a contract and it's not a settlement. It's just like, you went through something traumatic here.

[Jackie Oshry]

No, it's like, okay, delayed. Here's 5,000 miles right now. It's like, your flight landed upside down. Here's $30,000.

[Claudia Oshry]

Exactly that. That's exactly what. That's a perfect yes.

[Jackie Oshry]

And that I understand. Like, they're. They're inkling to do something like that. As I said, I hadn't thought about a price, but this just feels low. Like, hey, we almost killed you. Here's 30k.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah.

[Jackie Oshry]

You've had a traumatic experience. You'll probably need, you know, counseling.

[Claudia Oshry]

Is this, like, a negotiation? Like, is this just a flat amount? Is there room for negotiation?

[Jackie Oshry]

I think this is a flat amount. They're saying no strings attached, which is, like, so sweet of them.

[Claudia Oshry]

Beyond.

[Jackie Oshry]

What kind of strings would they attach? Like, oh, you can only spend it at Delta Classic. It's a credit.

[Claudia Oshry]

That's 1,000% what it is. You have to read the fine print. It's $30,000 in the form of a gift card.

[Jackie Oshry]

30,000 miles.

[Claudia Oshry]

Now, if you're going through this, Are you ever flying again? No. Like, now I understand. Like, Travis Barker. Like, there are these celebrities who have these famous stories. Will be Goldberg. She was like, I don't think I am. Because I'm the type of person. I have, like, an inconvenient flight, like, where somebody's rude to me. I'm like, I'm never flying again. It takes very little for me to, like, stop flying. I think flying is, like, one of the most miserable experiences the planet. So if I'm. And I've actually never been in danger on a flight that I know of. So if I'm actually in active danger and everything's like, I'm never getting on a flight again. So, yeah, I'll take 30 GS.

[Jackie Oshry]

You might have PTSD, too.

[Claudia Oshry]

Of course.

[Jackie Oshry]

It's not just Being like, I don't want to do that again.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah, no, it's full. Like, full. Fully traumatizing.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah. So just doesn't seem like enough. I don't know.

[Claudia Oshry]

Are you taking the 30k?

[Jackie Oshry]

I don't know what they could do, but I do think, like, accountability is a good place to start. Like, yeah, get the black box.

[Claudia Oshry]

Well, I love to know whose fault is.

[Jackie Oshry]

Where's the black box from the other plane? Like, I feel like these things are kind of coming, like, falling out of the conversation.

[Claudia Oshry]

Where is Malaysia flight?

[Jackie Oshry]

I love how we all know what.

[Claudia Oshry]

A black box is because of Malaysia flight. Yeah, we all, like, let's. I never heard of black box before.

[Jackie Oshry]

Malaysia flight, of course. But now anytime something happens with a plane, we're like, well, get me the black box. Get me the black box. And I just feel like I need.

[Claudia Oshry]

A movie called Black Box.

[Jackie Oshry]

We're not getting enough black box footage. Intelligence recordings.

[Claudia Oshry]

It's just audio, right?

[Jackie Oshry]

It's like everything.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Jackie Oshry]

That's why, like, it's such a famed thing. It's like every, every. Everything that happened inside the plane. Tell me how it's in the box.

[Claudia Oshry]

Show me to me, please. Send it to me, Rachel.

[Jackie Oshry]

Right. And they have the black box from dc what happened?

[Claudia Oshry]

Release the tapes.

[Jackie Oshry]

I think the helicopter probably had a black box too.

[Claudia Oshry]

Delta Airlines, welcome to your tape.

[Jackie Oshry]

And we need the black box here. That's where you could start. We'll talk 30k later.

[Claudia Oshry]

I just want to say aviation expert Brian Kelly says, like, these people should and could take it. I watched his video.

[Jackie Oshry]

I don't know. I feel like Olivia Munn never settle by me. And if you could, your price is too low.

[Claudia Oshry]

I just want to say you can.

[Jackie Oshry]

You can buy me for 30k.

[Claudia Oshry]

Well, it's all relative, right? Like, and I think that after taxes. Well, after taxes, yeah, they should cover the taxes. Delta, that would be huge. Then I would think about it. But the people on the plane, that's also like, money's relative to, to all different people. So some people maybe use their last 100 bucks to get on this flight. And 30k is like life changing money. Some people are, you know, in a different spot. So it's all, it's all relative.

[Jackie Oshry]

I know. I feel like what I'm saying is.

[Claudia Oshry]

Get more, of course, because Delta can afford it.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah. So we shall see. Our fifth and final story is actually just going to be a summer house recap, if that's okay. Like, the wi fi ran out. The time is running out as well. And there's nothing less to talk about. And we want to talk about Summer House.

[Claudia Oshry]

So I happen to have really enjoyed last night's episode of Summer House. Lindsay Hubbard was making me laugh so much. I love her level of unbothered. I like that she didn't even say hi to Carl. When she did. She was like, hey, Carl. And he had like this big expectation like for this. And she was like, what's up? I'm just cleaning up, you know, you can't stop me from cleaning. I love that level of unbotheredness. And I really wish that was what Ciara was giving last in last night's episode because there were these two awkward.

[Jackie Oshry]

Reunions and if anything, the couple that was engaged like, should have been more feelings. And she's so moved on. It's not even like she's like treating him poorly because she's mad. She's not mad. She's not sad. She's not glad.

[Claudia Oshry]

She don't give a fuck.

[Jackie Oshry]

She doesn't care. And that's the best place to be in.

[Claudia Oshry]

And so with Ciara, she's so clearly still hurt. Hurt and still has feelings. I couldn't believe she even said that thing like, I hate you, but I want you to kiss me. Like. So the reason why she's kind of at a disadvantage is because she's operating from that place and Wes is operating from a place where like, I actually think he doesn't care.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah.

[Claudia Oshry]

And that's just like the worst thing to feel for Sierra. So she's like getting mad and she's like looking like she cares because she does. And so she's looking just sort of like a dog with a bone a little bit. Whereas, like he's just sitting there silently and I do feel like just like.

[Jackie Oshry]

Waiting for it to be over. Like, you know, he's. He knows he has to like take his punishment and like there's going to be conversations about it and he's not responding because he just wants it to be over. And he. There's nothing that he can say that will make it better because if he defends himself or tries to justify what he did, we'll be like, how could you, how could you even defend yourself?

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah.

[Jackie Oshry]

And then if he like admits there to it, even though I don't think that's how he feels, so he can't defend himself. So therefore he is saying nothing, which is infuriating, especially if you're someone like Sierra who still cares. And it's like even though you're fighting, he's talking to you.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah. No, And I just feel like she came at it the wrong way because she insisted on having this conversation about something that was really personal to her. She was obviously really hurt by this New York Times article. Like, and I get it, but she came at it, having this conversation in. In front of everybody and kind of demanded that they have it in front of everybody. Then made fun of his hair. Like, she just, like, didn't handle it well to the point where I was like, well, I agreed with you, but, like, leave him alone. And up until this point, I haven't felt even remotely in defensive. West. I'm like, everything that's coming your way, like, agreed. You deserve it bad. Boo.

[Jackie Oshry]

Boo.

[Claudia Oshry]

Tomato. But I do feel like at this point, it's a couple of months after the reunion, he's probably been, like, sufficiently punished.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah, he's taken. Even though for some reason he's getting all these write ups from, like, major press.

[Claudia Oshry]

Fuck. Is the New York Times interviewing him?

[Jackie Oshry]

I have no idea. But I do feel like we know he was so made fun of. We made fun of him so hard, like, the new season. Like, he's not my favorite at all, but I'm like, tabular. He's here. He's in the house. Like, we have to watch him. So just do whatever you're gonna do.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah.

[Jackie Oshry]

So I agree it was like, overkill a little bit. It was not gonna, like, move forward. And there's nothing that he can do to remedy this situation. Like, this will always be like a.

[Claudia Oshry]

Demerit in his column.

[Jackie Oshry]

In his column. But, like, he's. We are still on the show, so let's have something new to do.

[Claudia Oshry]

Sierra's voice was just, like, shaking the whole time. And, like, she just so clearly really still cares about him while also, like, fighting with him and like, being mean to him about his hair. And so it just. It looks silly. And you don't look like you're winning at all because, like, you so care. And it's. And that's fine. But. But have those conversations. Like, have real conversations. I'm sure if they had had, like, a one on one outside, not in front of everybody, everybody. Like, maybe not at night when there was, like, cocktails around. They could have had, like, a more productive conversation, but both of their conversations were kind of fruitless.

[Jackie Oshry]

But I also think their conversations are going to go nowhere because I don't know what she wants out of him, what he could possibly say. I don't think she will ever feel like she got what she wanted from A conversation with him because. Because what she wants is like him to want her more but she couldn't even take him back because he disrespected her. So there's just like there's no path forward. And like they were friends but they got together so quickly. So like to go back to that friendship like you were, it sounded like long standing history. Even Lindsay and Carl have given up on their long standing friendship.

[Claudia Oshry]

So I don't think that lasts long. I think that like Carl and Lindsay who this episode, like they were very well behaved, ambivalent, like. But I do think it gets contentious at some point which I'm really not looking forward to. I really prefer Lindsay in her unbothered era. Yeah, it's hilarious to me.

[Jackie Oshry]

It really is. And as she should be and she should be peaceful and she should be happy and it seems like she is. So I need the storyline to move on from west and Sierra because there's nothing left there. There just isn't. And I actually understood him when he was like the whole. And he's such a loser for caring like what the fans think about him and that being his like driving force. Can't just like live his life without thinking about how it's gonna play. Like.

[Claudia Oshry]

And see Sarah was giving him good advice. Being like you're up one day, you're down the next. Like stop living your life for these people.

[Jackie Oshry]

Live your life and, and the rest will come and. But I understand like after the reading and like biggest loser on earth, on the planet, weirdly, the New York Times wants to interview him. He has this chance to like defend himself. So like why wouldn't he do that? I agree. I understood what he said when he said that he never thought that the things that he said in that article would like affect would be so bothersome to Sierra. He's just kind of like explaining again what happened.

[Claudia Oshry]

Right. Because what happened was that these two. He broke up with her because he didn't think that that was his person. And so like while that's hurtful to hear, it's honest and it's truthful and it's not mean. It's just nobody wants to hear that.

[Jackie Oshry]

And she was talking a lot about the article and things that he said. And I thought about going to read it.

[Claudia Oshry]

No, I didn't.

[Jackie Oshry]

But I didn't.

[Claudia Oshry]

That's funny. It didn't even cross my mind but.

[Jackie Oshry]

I don't have a New York Times subscription so I just didn't wanna deal with the paywall.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah, but no, the pull quotes Was.

[Jackie Oshry]

That like he said, she's not my person.

[Claudia Oshry]

And that really hurts to hear. But that's a breakup, right? When you don't think that's your person.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Claudia Oshry]

And it's just like. It's kind of like an unfortunate truth. Now I want to talk about Bailey. Have you seen the rumors about Bailey?

[Jackie Oshry]

I sent it to you.

[Claudia Oshry]

Oh. Oh, I had. Oh, I didn't see that. You sent it to me.

[Jackie Oshry]

Unreals.

[Claudia Oshry]

Well, she's kind of like this weird character who, like, was never properly introduced.

[Jackie Oshry]

She's not in the group cast photos.

[Claudia Oshry]

She'S giving friend of. But she's like a full time resident of the home.

[Jackie Oshry]

It. By the way, it's still the first weekend. I feel like we just need to mention that we're getting three episodes of the first weekend. Today is Saturday. They arrived on a Thursday. Last week was Thursday. Today is Saturday and next week is the Saturday party.

[Claudia Oshry]

So.

[Jackie Oshry]

So I'm a little miffed about that.

[Claudia Oshry]

Oh, I didn't even put that together.

[Jackie Oshry]

It's a little annoying.

[Claudia Oshry]

Well, they have to do that because they all go back to the city on the weekdays.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yes. This episode, I enjoyed parts of it because there was like, I like the people, but nothing happened. It was like a little bit of a waste of time.

[Claudia Oshry]

Okay, well, I enjoyed it, but I guess, yeah, nothing happened. So the rumors about Bailey, because there's. There's definitely like a weirdness there. It's like, is she on the show or not? The rumors are that, like, she was very much cast as a full time swirly. We were supposed to get to know her. And the way we're getting to know Lexi. Yeah. Who we will talk about in one minute because I'm obsessed. And I guess at some point she gets confronted by the producers because she's like, selling stories.

[Jackie Oshry]

She, like, comes back to the city every week, talks about the show, talks about the cast members, and tells everyone what's going on in the house and like, spoiling the show. So production confronted her, like, what are. What is you doing? And then she never showed up again.

[Claudia Oshry]

Correct. So I think they're pro. They have probably edited out big chunks of her.

[Jackie Oshry]

Why did they even include that bit about some guys she's seeing in the city? Like, who gives a?

[Claudia Oshry]

I thought the same thing. I'm like, not only. Even if she was a full time cast member, we don't care. But she's not. So I'm like, why? Why are we getting invested in the story?

[Jackie Oshry]

Last week she didn't even have an A Confessional interview. And then this week, she did talking about, like, some guy in the city that she may or may not be seeing when this girl's, like, not even on the show after this weekend. Who gives a. They were just trying to fill air time because they want to make this weekend three episodes, 1000%.

[Claudia Oshry]

Now let's talk about Jesse and Lexi. And so funny, as I watch the episode with Ben, and Ben does not watch his show. He doesn't know, like, who's new, who's old, who's been here before. And he's like, oh, my God. Every time it was Jesse and Wes, he was like, they're the best part of the show. And they're like the ones who actually go out. When they went to the club and got back at 11:29, I'm like, why are we watching these people? Like, and of course, Lindsay's pregnant.

[Jackie Oshry]

But it's like, everyone came back. All the girls came back.

[Claudia Oshry]

So I'm like, this supposed to be, like, young people going out. They're home at 11:30. That's not interesting to me.

[Jackie Oshry]

They literally left the house at 10:30. She said, we went out dancing for one hour.

[Claudia Oshry]

So every time, Jesse and Wes, they're the ones who drink, they're the ones who out. They're the ones who, like, try to get girls. Like, that's the whole point of the show. Ben thought they were so fucking funny. Like, he was loving. He said, Jesse Solomon's Jewish. Right? I'm like, of course. And I was like, really not okay. At the scene where Jesse and Lexi are, like, kind of sharing their truths, their. Their tragedies, their triumphs in life in that bed where they're just. They're not, like, spooning, but they're just.

[Jackie Oshry]

Sort of like, cocooning with one another, talking intimately.

[Claudia Oshry]

She's sharing about this huge loss in her life of her best friend. He's obviously sharing his journey with cancer.

[Jackie Oshry]

And that was her best friend, not her boyfriend.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah, but it was. I thought that. Yeah, it was like giving gbf. No.

[Jackie Oshry]

Oh, gee.

[Claudia Oshry]

I don't know that.

[Jackie Oshry]

It looks like they're all kissy. And I didn't hear. When she spoke about him. I didn't hear.

[Claudia Oshry]

She said friend.

[Jackie Oshry]

Friend. Okay. Okay.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah. And straight people can obviously be friends, but, you know, I, I. I assume gbf, but I don't know. I don't want. I'm not like, I'm. I have no proof of that.

[Jackie Oshry]

Okay.

[Claudia Oshry]

I thought that was so sweet, like, the way they were talking with one another, like, really intimately. And then they started making out. Like, I. I'm worried that it's, like, too fast. And when you. When you, like, make out with someone and then you wake up in the same house as I'm, like, you automatically have the ick. Like, it's just too close for comfort.

[Jackie Oshry]

Not on a makeout. If they had, like, SL together, of.

[Claudia Oshry]

Course, but, like, they're headed that way.

[Jackie Oshry]

I know. And I know, like, you're not supposed to move this quickly in a relationship. And I know that's just, like, a rule because.

[Claudia Oshry]

But it's true love.

[Jackie Oshry]

And I'm trying to, like, under remember, like, why it's bad, but. And how do you even slow down at this point? Like, they're obviously moving too quickly because.

[Claudia Oshry]

They will be fizzled by.

[Jackie Oshry]

It's better to take things slow. But how can they slow down when they just want to be around each other and talk to each other and touch each other and they are.

[Claudia Oshry]

How can you take it slow when you're living together?

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah, it's giving.

[Claudia Oshry]

Ron and Sam. Did you say that about them?

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah, just that two people came into the house and they were attracted to each other. And we're off to the races.

[Claudia Oshry]

And if, you know, Ron and Sam have taught us anything, it's like, this is gonna be the most toxic relationship on the planet.

[Jackie Oshry]

I don't think it's gonna be toxic because they're not toxic people. I just think it's gonna fizzle out so quickly. And, like, you know, maybe it's. Maybe this is why people should take things slow. Because Jesse doesn't have enough time to, like, change his behavior. I feel like sometimes when you're, like, gradually moving towards a relationship, you slowly start talking to other people, you slowly realize, I only wanna spend time with this person. But for him to, like, in two days be a completely different person than he was two days ago and talk to girls differently and go out differently, that doesn't happen. And maybe that's amongst the reasons why going so quickly doesn't work. Even though back in the day it did. But that was before, you know, there were girls in the DMs and Bonnie Blue.

[Claudia Oshry]

Correct. Well, now we're all competing with the Bonnie Blues of the world. I thought that the FaceTime conversation they shared of Craig and Paige and then that interview that Paige shared was a real window and insight into that time. Because this is, like, a few months before they're getting right.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah, it's July, and they broke up in December.

[Claudia Oshry]

So I feel like that was actually a really Honest moment from Paige. And I think that it gave a lot of, like, color as to why this relationship didn't work out. And the fact that she's changed her mind on a lot of things and her life has changed so much, and she didn't foresee herself being this, like, busy and successful and fulfilled by it. And she's not mad at it, and she doesn't want to change it. And so it's like. It's like a small crack that I think maybe if they hadn't been broken up, I wouldn't have thought much of.

[Jackie Oshry]

But now we would have thought, like, oh, she's changed and they're changed. They're gonna grow together. And I feel like even if it was just one of the things that she had mentioned that can, like, destabilize a relationship. Like, her just saying, I'm different than the person I was three years ago. I'm so much busier. So, one, you can't. It's hard to be in a long distance relationship when you're that busy and you can't come for one week and he can't come the next week. Then she also says that she changes her mind about a lot of things that in the beginning of the. And that can also just deteriorate a relationship when you have different ideas of the future. So between everything that she said, it's like, oh, if they weren't together, if they were still together, it would kind of be like a red flag. But people can grow together and change together. Maybe Craig changed his mind on those things too. Like he was saying on Southern Charm to his friends. And the boys were like, okay, sure you did, Greg. Right. But I do think that's what happened in their relationship. And that's why, to me, like, as much as now, they hate each other. Like, nothing went wrong. People just change and you grow apart and you just, like, have different ideas of the future and you break up. And it's sad, but nobody did something wrong.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah, I need more Gabby in this show because we get very little. And what we do get, I really enjoy. Like, because I know she's, like, always up Lindsay's ass. And that, like, is probably her biggest disqualifier when it comes to, like, being a good reality star. But she's saying the thing that, like, we're all thinking being, like, why is Lindsay even here? And why is Carl here? Like, thank you for saying that. It's a good question for a check.

[Jackie Oshry]

Of course, for Lindsay, and especially now, like, who knows what she'll be able to do this summer. Like, now that she has a baby, maybe she can't come to the summer house. Definitely her career is changing. But you're about to have a baby. Like, you're gonna work as much as you possibly can. I understand why Lindsay's there. I don't understand why Carl's there. He really doesn't add much to the show aside from being like, you know, the Lindsay storyline. Go enjoy your life. Like, he. He's a completely different person than he was when he came on the show.

[Claudia Oshry]

My Ben was cracking me up. Ben was like, those steaks are burnt and raw.

[Jackie Oshry]

That's funny. It looked like they were too big. A really nice meal.

[Claudia Oshry]

Not him making the meal for everyone and also cleaning up. It was giving Butler. Like, he's here because he's staff. Nobody cleaned, and he cooked the entire thing.

[Jackie Oshry]

I was like, is anybody gonna thank him? And it turned out to be Lindsay. But I. I think that he, like, could move on, but. But now he has soft bar, and he needs this platform.

[Claudia Oshry]

I know. It's just every time he talks, I feel this overwhelming sense of dread. Like. Like, he is so dreadful. Dreadful. So not entertaining.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah.

[Claudia Oshry]

So therapy talk. So I'm glad Lindsay's leaving. I want to be healed. Like, I just. Please.

[Jackie Oshry]

I want to meet someone. Go meet someone. You don't have to wait till July 4th. You're in New York City. Go meet someone.

[Claudia Oshry]

You're in New York City. Go meet someone. And you're gonna meet someone at this fake party where everybody's, like, required to invite three friends, and they have to stay for two hours and play no music.

[Jackie Oshry]

Three friends that they've been inviting for the last summer years.

[Claudia Oshry]

Right.

[Jackie Oshry]

Okay.

[Claudia Oshry]

Right.

[Jackie Oshry]

You're gonna meet someone.

[Claudia Oshry]

Why?

[Jackie Oshry]

She meets someone next week.

[Claudia Oshry]

What else?

[Jackie Oshry]

That's kind of it.

[Claudia Oshry]

It's actually really crazy how little Kyle and Amanda contribute to the show. Like, we just did a whole recap without even talking about them.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah.

[Claudia Oshry]

Now maybe I'm biased because he is my mortal enemy and I will hate him till the day that I die, but I don't think that's it. Like, no.

[Jackie Oshry]

What did he do?

[Claudia Oshry]

Set up the speakers? He's also giving staff stuff. Like, he's organizing the cars and setting up the speakers.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah. I just. Like, we need to get into the season. We're not there yet. They've been there two days. They made, like, a lot of.

[Claudia Oshry]

Of content.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah. Thankfully. I like all the people, so, like, I'll literally just watch Lexi and Jesse just hugging.

[Claudia Oshry]

No. And the girls are so pretty. And they, like, really get dressed up. Even though they go out for 35 minutes, they put their best foot forward. And it's nice to watch beautiful women doing beautiful things.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah, no, it's a pleasure. And I like the steak dinner. I like watching them cook. I like seeing who cleans. Like, it's so. So it's. It's. I'm enjoying my time. I'm not, like, watching Love is blind. Dreadfully.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah.

[Jackie Oshry]

But, like, as far as, like, plot. Move it along.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah. It's not the most plotty.

[Jackie Oshry]

No, there was not plot.

[Claudia Oshry]

That's our show. Correct.

[Jackie Oshry]

That is our show. We'll see.

[Claudia Oshry]

Let me just start. Let me end the show. How I started.

[Jackie Oshry]

She's getting eyeballs.

[Claudia Oshry]

Thank you guys so much for listening to the Desolina morning show. We do the fastest three things, never mind the Friday night on YouTube. So if you're watching this on YouTube, please feel free to subscribe. And thumbs up. I look so much uglier. Like at Spotify. I should set your public video. I heard a castbox all the places. Find us the toast leaves to review for school about how beautiful, stunning, and smart we are.

[Jackie Oshry]

Love ya. Bye.