The Super Bowl Sequel: Tuesday, February 10th, 2026

Summary

The Toast Podcast: "The Super Bowl Sequel" (February 10, 2026)

Hosts: Jackie & Claudia ("Turdy") Oshry
Theme: Super Bowl Recap & Pop Culture Deep Dive

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Episode Overview

This post-Super Bowl episode delivers a lively, witty, and highly relatable breakdown of everything buzzing from the big game to Olympics drama, celebrity sightings, and trending pop culture. Jackie and Claudia (Turdy) blend signature banter with pointed commentary on the game, ads, pop music, and viral stories, creating a fun, conversational recap that feels like catching up with friends.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Super Bowl 2026 Recap: Turdy’s Version

[15:00–18:30, 21:13–22:08]

• General Vibe: Both found this year’s Super Bowl lackluster and underwhelming compared to past years—less overall excitement in the game, halftime, and celeb sightings.

  • "People are already moved on where I think in years past, we've been talking about it for days and days and days." (Turdy, 15:33)
  • "It wasn't the most entertaining by any stretch of the imagination." (Turdy, 01:28)

• Game & Celebrities:

  • Seahawks’ strong defense led to less on-field excitement.
  • Noted an odd lack of compelling celebrity intrigue, with even Kim Kardashian's appearance met with apathy: "I know Kim was there with her man and, like, no one cares." (Turdy, 15:51)

Halftime Show (Bad Bunny & Guests)

[16:09–21:14]

• Bad Bunny’s Performance:

  • Turdy didn’t recognize songs or words but appreciated the "colorful," "positive," "joyful" Latin celebration.
  • "It was just like, celebrating family and love... and I do think that's very, you know, the Latin culture celebrates." (Turdy, 16:37)

• Guest Appearances:

  • Surprise at Alex Earl being featured ("I was shook"), and speculation about whether it truly fit the Miami/Latin theme.
  • Lady Gaga’s performance led to debate:
    • "It should have been a mashup. But it was a mess up." (Turdy, 19:25)
    • Both agree Gaga was amazing but the musical transition was awkward and misdirected.
  • Ricky Martin was a pleasant but not obvious choice; they enjoyed seeing special guests.

• Halftime Trend: Hosts declare readiness for a return of “pop girlies” or a big country crossover in future Super Bowls.

National Anthem & Pregame

[22:08–24:14]

• Claudia admits she "was wrong" about Charlie Puth, who delivered a respectful, moving national anthem:
  • "He had all the elements of it. He also played an instrument live... it was a great night for Charlie Puth." (Turdy, 23:42)
• Coco Jones impressed with her vocals though appeared "really nervous" (Jackie, 24:14).
• Comments on unique elements, such as a Green Day concert before kickoff.

Commercials & Pepsi Zero Sugar

[25:04–30:14]

• The women felt most commercials didn’t stand out—less focus on “making people be quiet” for ad breaks than in years past.
• Rave review for Pepsi Zero Sugar’s commercial and the “Pepsi paradox.”
  • Discussion of breaking free from brand labels: "Don't let the label decide. Let your taste decide." (Turdy, 30:00)
  • Jokes about being "vindicated" for being Pepsi fans before it was cool.
  • The theme thread: admitting when you’re wrong is empowering, as echoed in both the ad and episode.

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2. Pop Culture & Olympics Highlights

Olympics & Figure Skating
[06:08–09:47, 33:26–37:28]

• Both express love for the Olympics, especially Winter events and U.S. figure skaters (shoutouts to Ilia Malinin ["The Quad God"] and the Bates/Gates ice dance couple).
  • "Ilia is like doing men's ice dancing... and it's kind of crazy looking." (Turdy, 07:51)
• They lampoon the mystery of figure skating commentary personalities (Johnny Weir & Tara Lipinski): "Their friendship is so real!" (Turdy, 09:15)
• Ongoing inside joke about “Colton Files” on Peacock—a plea for more reality TV drama access.

Utah Liardom’s Gold Medal
[33:26–37:28]

• Jake Paul’s fiancée wins speed skating gold and breaks an Olympic record; both shower praise on her sacrifice and national pride.
  • “She’s a Michael Phelps of her generation... the pride of her country.” (Turdy, 35:22)
  • Discussion about her influencer content and being beloved in the Netherlands.
• They reflect on the emotional journey, support for her move to Puerto Rico, and hope for future Paul American documentaries.

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3. Fast Five Stories

(Selected pop culture headlines with signature commentary)

The Bachelorette Promo: Taylor Frankie Paul

[37:30–43:37]

• New season showcases Taylor’s personal, less-glam side; promo is critiqued as “low budget."
• Discussion morphs into Mormon representation in pop culture, sparked by a New York Magazine cover featuring "7 Mormon women."
  • Reflection on the rise of Mormon influencers, Salt Lake reality TV, and how seeking "perfection... makes for good TV." (Turdy, 43:26)
  • Comments on church discomfort with “imperfect” portrayals but agree it’s a “net positive” for perception.

Beckham Family Drama/Marc Anthony’s Statement

[44:25–46:13]

• Marc Anthony’s non-statement on the Beckham family feud sparks jokes about reading between the lines—“He said a whole bunch of nothing. But then a little at the end.” (Turdy, 44:55)
• Dive into mother-son dynamic at weddings—defending Victoria Beckham, relying on relatable “boy mama” TikToks.

Kardashians & Lewis Hamilton Rumors

[48:11–51:35]

• Kylie, Kim, and Khloe do the “Titanic Challenge”—speculation about men’s laughter heard (Lewis Hamilton? Timothée Chalamet? Not Rob Kardashian).
  • "Men should never laugh." (Turdy, 49:46)
• Lukewarm response to Kim dating Lewis Hamilton: "It's so not doing it for me." (Turdy, 50:22)
• Discussion pivots to personal Kardashian “ranking” and fans’ changing favorites.

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4. Dear Toasters (Advice Segment)

[53:43–65:34]

Advice Q1: Excluded from family group chat

• Both agree it's likely a seniority thing, not personal. “Let the chats fall where they may.” (Turdy, 58:30)

Quote:
"There are definitely things you should be mad at him for... this is really not one of them." (Turdy, 57:54)

Advice Q2: Postpartum rage vs. justified anger (husband lied about vaping)

• Jackie: “It's not about the vape...” Empathy for hormonal changes and betrayal after childbirth.
• Turdy: Sides with wife, jokes: "Perhaps he's gay. Like, you can't stop sucking on the vape?"

Advice Q3: Husband wants to quit job with no plan

• They say: Don’t risk home stability for freelance dreams without a clear, developed plan.
• Jackie: “You never like quit your full-time job until your side hustle eclipses [it]." (63:17)
• Turdy: “As a man quitting a job and going out on your own is such a big thing... more precautions need to be put into place.” (65:21)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On the Super Bowl's Buzz:
  "People are already moved on where I think in years past we've been talking about it for days and days and days." — Turdy [15:33]

• On the Halftime Show:
  "It should have been a mashup. But it was a mess up." — Turdy [19:25]
  "If you want me to like something, put a gospel choir in there. Like, I will be shaking my titties like, take me to church, mama." — Turdy [23:38]

• On Brand Loyalty & Growth:
  "Don't let the label decide. Let your taste decide." — Turdy [30:00]

• On Kardashians:
  "Men should never laugh." — Turdy [49:46]
  "It's so not doing it for me." (on Kim & Lewis Hamilton) — Turdy [50:22]

• On Relationship Advice:
  "Let the chats fall where they may." — Turdy [58:30]
  "My toxic traditionalist comes out in Dear Toasters. I'm like, sorry, this man is a provider. That's literally his job." — Turdy [62:47]

• On Olympics & Social Media:
  "She is this enormous... I didn't realize. And they had this, like, whole party for her. Did you see her, like, going on stage at this, like, Dutch party? Like, it's been such a fabulous saga of events." — Turdy [35:22]

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Section Timestamps (HH:MM)

• 00:24 – Show open, catching up, episode plan
• 01:48 – Patriarchy & Women’s Health banter
• 06:08 – Olympics and sports highlights
• 15:00 – Super Bowl (game, celebs, halftime debrief)
• 21:13 – Halftime guest critique, Lady Gaga
• 22:08 – Anthems, Charlie Puth, commercials
• 33:26 – Olympics pop culture (Utah Liardom’s gold)
• 37:30 – Bachelorette promo, Mormon pop culture
• 44:25 – Beckham family drama/Marc Anthony
• 48:11 – Kardashians, Lewis Hamilton rumors
• 53:43 – Dear Toasters: advice segment

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Tone & Style

The episode is candid, quick-witted, full of pop references, and self-deprecating. The sisters’ conversational rhythm keeps even cultural critiques playful and relatable, mixing deep-dives with tongue-in-cheek commentary: “Me too. Did I say that?” / “Roll the tape!” / “We need to stop pitting man against woman.”

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Summary Takeaway

For those wanting a punchy but detailed dissection of Super Bowl 2026’s pop culture reverberations, this episode of The Toast nails it. From lackluster football to refreshing perspectives on feminist history, Olympic celebrations, and ever-scorching hot takes on celebrity romance and branding, Jackie and Claudia Oshry ensure listeners are part of the inside joke—whether on Super Bowl Monday or any old Tuesday.

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End of Summary

Transcript

[Turdy]

Good morning, girlies.

[Jackie]

It's the Toast. It's Jackson Claude, and we're your host.

[Turdy]

It's your favorite show, the best five things you need to know. We'll start your day off Swirly. It's the Toast.

[Jackie]

They sound amazing.

[Turdy]

Welcome back to the Toast and Happy Tuesday. That for me, feels like a Monday because, boy, do I have a lot to do today.

[Jackie]

Tuesday.

[Turdy]

Turdi went MIA yesterday. Apologies. Something came up. But I'm here and I'm ready to discuss. I'm ready to show up for my people.

[Jackie]

We are excited to have you. It was such a treat. Having trout treats with trout.

[Turdy]

That should have been like alternative title.

[Jackie]

But we had to put super bowl in the title because it was the big day after the big game. And today's the second big day after the big game because we're gonna get Super Bowl Turdy's version today.

[Turdy]

Yeah, sorry if it's repetitive, but, like, I have a job to do. I think that people would still like to hear my thoughts.

[Jackie]

Yeah, people are still talking about it still in the news cycle, but don't.

[Turdy]

You feel like it has sort of faded quicker than other Super Bowls? This was very like. Like there actually were a couple of big things like bad Bunny and everything. But in terms of, like, buzziness, I feel like everybody quick, like, went home quickly.

[Jackie]

I agree. The game, as I've come to learn, the Seahawks put up a very strong defense wherein not a lot of points could be scored. And when points aren't scored, like, it's not that exciting for, like a pea brain viewer like myself who just wants to see touchdowns.

[Turdy]

People catching.

[Jackie]

Yeah. And points and cheer. You know, it was a good game in terms of football, but it wasn't the funnest game.

[Turdy]

It wasn't the most entertaining by any stretch of the imagination. So today's episode has a lot. We've got Dear Toasters, of course, because it's a Tuesday. We never leave the DTQ hanging. We've got Turdy's version. Celebrity, celebrity super bowl recap. And we've got Jackson Claude just being themselves, which is such a beautiful thing to be able to be authentically represented.

[Jackie]

In modern media, being part of delicious Stephanicious.

[Turdy]

Okay. So I saw something that I've been. I actually was like, I wrote it down because I wanted to talk about on the show and not tell you in person. So we were talking a lot about the patriarchy last week.

[Jackie]

Okay.

[Turdy]

And I saw this kind of beautiful theory on the patriarchy that I feel like we need to discuss. Okay. Patriarchy is sort of, it's sort of this like Darwinistic evolutionary tactic by men. Men are clearly the subpar gender and the only way for them to ensure their survival is to instill these sort of toxic systems like the patriarchy. Because if we didn't live in this like very toxic male dominated system like we would have found we are smarter. We are responsible for like birthing. We would have found a way to do it all without the men and they are ensuring their own survival by installing these toxic systems.

[Jackie]

Let me ask you something. And I'm not saying men are smarter than women or women are smarter than men. I think like we're both have our, our great qualities and we serve different purposes. But if men were so much dumber than women, how could they pull that over on us?

[Turdy]

I don't think that there's so much.

[Jackie]

No, but if they're inferior to women, how could they pull that over on us?

[Turdy]

Their brute strength. That is what they have on us. And like you know, back in the day.

[Jackie]

Inferior.

[Turdy]

Right. Back in medieval times when they like were. Could use that brute streng strength. I think that their physical strength which yes, we all have our, you know, strengths.

[Jackie]

It's so to speak.

[Turdy]

And so men's. Yes, they are stronger than women in a physical.

[Jackie]

So they used their physical superiority to dominate us.

[Turdy]

Yes.

[Jackie]

Intellectually.

[Turdy]

Yep.

[Jackie]

Societally, to keep us down financially.

[Turdy]

Absolutely.

[Jackie]

Very interesting.

[Turdy]

I thought it was a really good take for me.

[Jackie]

I feel like the patriarchy like had its moment and wasn't like necessary like men to go out like up until. Because up until like modern advancements in menstrual health. Like first of all, pads, tampons, like if you didn't have those absorption, how can you go out into the like and sleigh. How can you slay all day?

[Turdy]

It's so true. When was the pad invented?

[Jackie]

And well people could have used like you know, cloth.

[Turdy]

When was the sanitary napkin formally invented?

[Jackie]

But no, I think they, they used cloth, reusable cloth. But I really. 1918, the tampon opened up a lot of doors for women, you know, because if you're like bleeding into a cloth all day, like you don't feel like going and slaying.

[Turdy]

No. And not only do you not feel like it, like you are living, you have a path. Yeah, right.

[Jackie]

And you have cramps. Like you're just not like so good man go.

[Turdy]

But now man go.

[Jackie]

We have Midol, we have, you know, the flow. The flow PMS gummies that I was advertising yesterday. Like we have all of these things that allow us to be out of the house 20 to 31 days a month, for better and for worse.

[Turdy]

It's true.

[Jackie]

So I think it's really the advancements in, in women's health and that's why.

[Turdy]

We should constantly be funding Women's Health Research.

[Jackie]

1,000%.

[Turdy]

I love that. So, so yeah, that was the thing that I saw that I wanted to talk to you about.

[Jackie]

I just not to be like Scott Galloway. I, I, I, I don't want. And not to make it serious when you were making it light hearted, but it's like men aren't so much dumber than women. Like, we have different. Like, I hate to be those men.

[Turdy]

Women hating.

[Jackie]

Yeah, yeah. Who are like, men are dumb.

[Turdy]

Like, I don't, I just want to say I didn't say that they were dumb.

[Jackie]

I think you did.

[Turdy]

They, I didn't.

[Jackie]

They provide value as well. And of course. And I think we feel some type of way because as women we've been put down, you know, so we have, we feel like you have to be like, well, you're ugly and stupid.

[Turdy]

Yeah, I think you're like, projecting. I never said that they were dumb.

[Jackie]

I feel like you, I feel like that's what you led with. I feel like that was your opening remark.

[Turdy]

I would love to just sit back and roll the tape.

[Jackie]

Me too.

[Turdy]

Did I say that?

[Jackie]

Oh, and we have a man here. How did that make you feel? Not good.

[Turdy]

I didn't say it. He agrees. Obviously the men are on my side. Scott Calloway, scared of you. I, Good. It's working. I agree. I'm not one of those, like, man hating women either. And that's not at all what I was saying at all. I was kind of commending them for that slave and evolutionary tactic keeping us down to keep themselves up.

[Jackie]

Okay. So I just think we need to all work together and we need to stop pitting man against woman.

[Turdy]

And I've been saying that, you know. Oh, speaking of men against women, do we have a story about Utah? Of course. Okay. Okay. Okay. So I won't talk.

[Jackie]

Of course.

[Turdy]

I watched so much Olympics this weekend.

[Jackie]

If it wasn't for the super bowl, like, that's the number one story of the day.

[Turdy]

There's so many, like, there were so many sports going on this weekend. Waste Management, like, who cares?

[Jackie]

Waste Management, full swing. Who won?

[Turdy]

I don't know. But that's where Travis was. So that was like, big news.

[Jackie]

But then he was with the chain smokers at Waste Management.

[Turdy]

Chain smokers was Definitely Super Bowl. He has a jet.

[Jackie]

Like, I thought I saw him on the sidelines of the Super Bowl.

[Turdy]

On the sidelines?

[Jackie]

I don't know.

[Turdy]

I think I saw him in the beginning ceremony. Yeah. No, but the Waste Management was like, the day before.

[Jackie]

It's like three days.

[Turdy]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I think he was just sort of doing it all.

[Jackie]

I'm so excited to find out what happened at Waste Management next year on full swing. Yeah.

[Turdy]

Too bad we have to wait.

[Jackie]

Your recap of Waste Management 2026 is coming next in 2027. Yeah.

[Turdy]

So. And then, of course, the Olympics, which have just been bringing me so much joy. Even though it' not the Summer Olympics, which are just so much better, they still have a lot of merit. I think a lot of people don't even watch the Winter Olympics. I watch all. And yes, summer is better, but winter has a lot going on. I forget, you know, of course, the Utah of it all, figure skating, which is in such a joy. I love that couple.

[Jackie]

I like that guy. Do you see his gold?

[Turdy]

Of course I know that guy.

[Jackie]

And it's funny because, like, he gets so he's the quad God. Like, the quad God.

[Turdy]

Yeah. His name is like, Iliam Milano.

[Jackie]

Yeah. And I was watching his performance. He's obviously very talented. And then, like, halfway through, I don't know why, he just decides to like, put his whole Ilia OC into it and just like, became insane. And he's like throwing extra tricks, like doing more swivels than they said that he was about to do. Like, he just popped off and he won gold.

[Turdy]

So what I'm learning watching the Olympics is like, figure skating is just not this sort of one size fits all. And I know figure skating from Ice Princess, of course, and Triple Axel, you know, and her using geometry.

[Jackie]

Jumping shrimp. Right.

[Turdy]

Her using geometry to figure out how to jump. Perfectly brilliant. But there's so many other elements. And it's like most of the things that I'm watching are not even like, triple axel. It's like ice dancing. There's freestyle. So Ilia is like doing like men's ice dancing. And it's like kind of crazy looking. Same with the Bates and Gates. Like last night, that couple who everybody loves, who's married, they did their ice dancing routine to a Lenny Kravitz mix. Oh, my God, it was amazing. And they got so robbed in their score. And so, like, his tricks, like the quad guy, like, he's not doing your typical ice princess like tricks.

[Jackie]

Yeah. No, he's, like, making up.

[Turdy]

Yeah.

[Jackie]

Ilya's own tricks.

[Turdy]

And I'm living for. It's crazy how differently I think of Johnny Weir and Tara Lipinski in the Trader's Mansion versus, you know, the Milano Cortina. Okay.

[Jackie]

Because Milano Cortina.

[Turdy]

In Milano Cortina, they are slaying. You see her TJ Maxx commercial? No. Tara did this, like, fabulous commercial. To me, they're, like, so unimpressive in Traders that I'm like, who are these people? I feel like I'm really learning about them as athletes, as people in their.

[Jackie]

Commentary is the point they crush.

[Turdy]

Like, they really did not do a good job of showing us who they are in Traders. I'm doing. I'm putting in my own time and research in. In the Cortina.

[Jackie]

I don't think we were open, you know, even if they showed us, I would say, why are you showing us so much? Except for Tara. Like, she's a cutie.

[Turdy]

But, like, no, no, Jackie, I'm telling you. Like, and their friendship is so real. Like, every time they talk about their.

[Jackie]

Friendship, I'm cracking up.

[Turdy]

Traders, I'm like, okay. They are best friends for life. It's so cute.

[Jackie]

So such a funny tweet that was like, you think they're gonna be able to find figure out Rob's the traitor? They can't even figure out that the two figure skaters are best friends.

[Turdy]

They've known each other for 100 years. It's so true.

[Jackie]

Like, this very niche sport they do broadcasting together, and no one, like, knows their best friend.

[Turdy]

This is also, like, day five of me asking Peacock to release the Colton Files. Like, where is that video of Colton finding out that Rob is the traitor? Because I know he's going to be like, oh, I knew it. Like, no, you fucking.

[Jackie]

No, you fudgeing.

[Turdy]

Didn't I check every day? Like, I'm so excited. I checked last night.

[Jackie]

What's today? Tuesday. They owe it to us.

[Turdy]

It's crazy. And I know that they wait, like, a little bit for spoilers, which I appreciate them, like, looking out for their community. Traitors.

[Jackie]

No, no. Okay.

[Turdy]

Sad. I'm posted in 16 hours. Like, I'm twitching. What were we talking about?

[Jackie]

Oh, the Olympics. Yeah.

[Turdy]

So it's been fabulous. We will talk about Utah's big night last night. Yes. It's a great day.

[Jackie]

Yeah. Lots to do. Should we get into it?

[Turdy]

I guess.

[Jackie]

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[Turdy]

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[Jackie]

Thank you, Turt.

[Turdy]

A pleasure.

[Jackie]

Our first story, super bowl recap, part two, Turdy's version here. Let's get into it. The game, meh. The halftime show, the commercials, the celebrities. What are your thoughts?

[Turdy]

So I did feel like overall the, the, the super. I feel like yes, some Super Bowls are buzzier than others. Of course, Taylor and Travis, like in years past, I think there's been so many cultural elements tied in.

[Jackie]

Also, it depends on the location too.

[Turdy]

Thousand percent. Like Vegas tying into the game, like outside that, it lifts the whole thing up. I just feel like this year was a little lackluster in its overall glamorousness and buzziness. Like I said, I feel like people are already moved on where I think in years past we've been talking about it like for days and days and days and of course there were like big moments that we're going to talk about. But overall, I would say a little underwhelming. Do you agree in terms.

[Jackie]

Yeah. The teams in the game, you know, I think the couple celebrity connections are like cardi B and yeah. And they're like barely together.

[Turdy]

I don't know. Just the celebrities that were there. Like I know Kim was there with her man and like no one cares. Like, yeah, I don't Know, it just felt like a little.

[Jackie]

It's like there's a picture of them kissing and, like. No, everyone thinks it's AI.

[Turdy]

I believe it is AI. So, like, they're right for that, for.

[Jackie]

Saying that, but, like, who knows?

[Turdy]

And if. I hope it's AI, it's such a weird picture.

[Jackie]

Yeah, I agree. But the celebs did all go.

[Turdy]

They did.

[Jackie]

They were in the halftime show. Let's talk about Bad Bunny. What did you think?

[Turdy]

Okay, so didn't understand a word. Didn't know a single song.

[Jackie]

I understand a lot of it. I speak Espanol.

[Turdy]

I. I know you speak Espanol. Those two things with standing. You know what? I really enjoyed it. I thought it was, like, so colorful. And, you know, I think we talk a lot in music about how, like, you know, dark is cool and. And, like, darkness and depression. It's just like, ugh. Like that Billie Eilish aesthetic.

[Jackie]

Yeah.

[Turdy]

And this was just like, celebrating family and love. There was a wedding, and it was like, that little kid. Like, it was very. And I do think that's very, you know, the Latin culture celebrates, like, that's what I'm always saying, you know, food, faith, family. And it was that.

[Jackie]

Do you know what I mean?

[Turdy]

I actually really enjoyed it. And to feed. Like, I really. I wish I knew, like, three songs that would have made it a little bit more fun for me, but as a viewer, I was entertained thoroughly. I liked the set. Like, it was all very. I don't know, like, bright.

[Jackie]

Yeah.

[Turdy]

And that. Like, I'm always looking for positive, joyful things, and that was extremely positive and joyful. I imagine if you knew the music, like, it was amazing. And. No, I thought he did exactly what. What he was supposed to do and.

[Jackie]

What he was hired to do. Yeah.

[Turdy]

Like, it was. It was really.

[Jackie]

It was.

[Turdy]

Oh, and then, like, not Alex Earl being in the casita, Like, I was shook. Not. Not a. Gina Kushner's casita. Okay. I was shook. Like, so the concept of, like, there being other people, like, you know, we always are thinking, like, who's he's gonna bring out? I wasn't thinking he was gonna be in the casita. You know, Jessica Alba, Cardi B. Now, of course, Jessica Alba is of Latin descent. Cardi B. Is our Dominican Queen. So I wasn't expecting Alex Earl, all that to say. But she is Miami. Like, she does really represent Miami. Like, Dave Grutman was there too. He's Jewish. Like, not. But I think they represent Miami really well. And I think Bad Bunny's Very. Like, a lot of his fans and community members come from Miami, so I understood it. I was really shook to see her there, and I thought she did a really good job. It had the potential to be awkward. Like, you're basically just standing there dancing.

[Jackie]

Yeah.

[Turdy]

And if you've ever been to the super bowl, like, if you're in the stadium, like, you actually don't really hear a lot. It's produced for television, so I can't imagine she was hearing the song super well or like the beat super well. Thought she really played it off.

[Jackie]

It looks like a lot of the, like, background characters had ears in.

[Turdy]

Oh, interesting.

[Jackie]

Monitors.

[Turdy]

Yeah.

[Jackie]

Yeah. So maybe that they could hear.

[Turdy]

Interesting. I have, like, kind of a hot take.

[Jackie]

About Lady Gaga.

[Turdy]

Yeah.

[Jackie]

Did you watch the toast yesterday? I don't think that you did.

[Turdy]

I didn't. I'm sorry.

[Jackie]

Because I caught up with stuff. No, no, I don't think that you did. Because it's so funny. Like, what you're saying is exactly what I said.

[Turdy]

Okay.

[Jackie]

So let me say. What they're about to say is. Is also what I said.

[Turdy]

So I don't want to say, like, she ruined it by any. Because whatever.

[Jackie]

Gaga's around and Die with a Smile, the number one song of the year.

[Turdy]

I fucking loved her outfit, too. Like, she showed up, she knew the vibes, and she slayed the house down. Hair, glam, everything. It was such a bad arrangement of the song. I actually liked the music. They were giving it, like, that sort of mariachi Latin.

[Jackie]

But she didn't change mariachi.

[Turdy]

I'm hanging out with you too much. Sorry. Mariachi. They gave it that very Latin flair, which I loved.

[Jackie]

Yeah, it was a great idea.

[Turdy]

It was. And then she started singing just like, the regular old vocals, and I was shook.

[Jackie]

As I said yesterday, it was a mashup that did not mesh.

[Turdy]

Yes, it was. It should have been a mashup. But it was a mess up.

[Jackie]

It was a mess up. It was like that was playing while that was playing. It's like someone turned the music off.

[Turdy]

I'm trying to think of. Because it was also a time recently where maybe this happens a lot, where the performer didn't sing with the guests. They just sort of gave the floor to the guest. It did feel weird and random, and I'm not mad.

[Jackie]

Saying their own song that has nothing to do with the performer.

[Turdy]

Yeah. Like, it was so random.

[Jackie]

And I'm sure Bruno's watching that. Like, where's.

[Turdy]

They definitely invited Bruno.

[Jackie]

What about me?

[Turdy]

Yeah, he was. Somebody said On Twitter, like, so mad. But chained to the basement of the casino that he owes money to.

[Jackie]

I saw that on Twitter.

[Turdy]

I was crazy.

[Jackie]

And the super bowl is not paid, so he can't go.

[Turdy]

Right. Only paid. He only gets out of his cage for paid affairs. So I like Lady Gaga. Like, actually cannot do anything wrong in my. No.

[Jackie]

And she didn't do anything.

[Turdy]

She didn't. She also did the job that she was paid there to do. But, like, the overall direction of her.

[Jackie]

Part felt really random, misdirected. Yeah, I agree.

[Turdy]

And I.

[Jackie]

For effort.

[Turdy]

I love Ricky Martin.

[Jackie]

A for effort. Great idea. Yeah. Bad execution. Still enjoyed. Never gonna complain about Gaga.

[Turdy]

I'm trying to think of what they could have done better. And, like, Lady Gaga sings in German. Like, she sings in. She would have learned a Spanish song. No, no, no.

[Jackie]

I like Die with a Smile Mariachi Edition. I do do it right.

[Turdy]

No, because it also doesn't involve Bad Bunny.

[Jackie]

Like, oh, that's okay.

[Turdy]

They could have sung like a Selena song, you know.

[Jackie]

No. Or they could have done a Lady Gaga song that would mesh better with Mariachi.

[Turdy]

Well, of course.

[Jackie]

Yes. Yes.

[Turdy]

It was just weird. I thought, like, Ricky Martin was a. Not obvious, actually, because I wouldn't have guessed him. But, like, a good person to bring out. I like when people bring people out. I think a lot of times people feel, like, too proud. Like, they have to do it themselves. Like, it's fine. Like, it's good.

[Jackie]

I like it both ways.

[Turdy]

Yeah.

[Jackie]

I like sometimes on the person when someone. Like when Lady Gaga did it herself, I loved that.

[Turdy]

Like, the weekend should have brought someone out, you know?

[Jackie]

Yeah, it depends.

[Turdy]

Yeah. So I enjoyed it. I know it was like this big. Like, what will it be? And you know what? It was exactly what I think his whole vibe is. And I enjoyed it. I do. Like, I am personally. And this is just like a selfish thing. I'm ready for a pop girly. It has been. We had Rihanna ever since Jay Z took over for Apple Music. He really widened. It used to be, I feel like back to back, like, the pop girlies were holding it down. Even Bruno Mars. So when Jay Z took over, like, he expanded it quite a bit. And just my own selfish. Like, I'm ready for a pop girly or a country. A country star. So if Jay Z's listening, like, that's just what one person Turdy wants. And I would appreciate, you know, that. But beyond that, it was kind of a boring game. It's also my first Super Bowl. Like, being a parent, definitely less fun.

[Jackie]

Yeah, that's what that was the big theme yesterday, like, we were like, oh, the anthem. You mean during bath time?

[Turdy]

Yeah, we had to pause because I was doing bath time. We have to talk about the anthem.

[Jackie]

We have to talk about Charlie Puth. Do you have something to say?

[Turdy]

I was wrong. And it's so funny because, like, some of the hate that I get is like, Turdi never admits that she's wrong mostly when it comes to, like, the Baldoni lively case. And I'm seriously not wrong.

[Jackie]

History, we don't have time for that today.

[Turdy]

History will be on my side. Jackie's like, shut the fuck up. We can't take any more hate.

[Jackie]

No, I'm saying, like, where the clock is running. Yeah, yeah. It's a 20 minute diet.

[Turdy]

Sorry, sorry, sorry.

[Jackie]

Dive into the.

[Turdy]

All that to say, like, I'm always happy to admit when I'm wrong. And I had very low expectations of Charlie Puth and I thought he did such an amazing job paying honor to our country, but to also, like, the greats before him. And he had posted a TikTok about how like, Whitney Houston's version is like.

[Jackie]

The pressure to do the anthem when this one exists.

[Turdy]

And then he also shared that his arrangement, like, did sample her arrangement and he really, like, just tried to do the whole thing with such respect for everyone and everything his. So I saw him being accused of like using auto tune because, like, his voice is so perfect, but that's just his thing. And I feel like it was a great night for Charlie Puth. It was an, like, also a very great night for Taylor Swift because she is right. Like, Charlie Puth should be a bigger artist. It was so impressive for me. If you want me to like something, put a gospel choir in there. Like, I will be shaking my titties like, take me to church, mama. He had all the elements of it. He also played an instrument live, so he is being compared to Chris Stapleton, who recently did it vocally. It's hard enough to focus on the voice, let alone the piano or the whatever in front of you.

[Jackie]

And then some people do too much. They're like, I want to give the anthem my.

[Turdy]

They're trying to prove, like.

[Jackie]

And they, like, are trying to prove that they can sing and. And play. And it's like, just do it good. We don't care what you're having to prove to us.

[Turdy]

He didn't look nervous, his voice didn't shake, but he.

[Jackie]

It felt like he understood the magnitude.

[Turdy]

Yes, that's what I mean. Like, there was so Much respect for everything, everyone and everything in the performance.

[Jackie]

For him, yeah, our founding fathers, it felt like there was respect for the country, for the flag, for the founding.

[Turdy]

Mothers, Whitney Houston, for our troops.

[Jackie]

Yes, everything.

[Turdy]

I had chills.

[Jackie]

He really, he understood the assignment.

[Turdy]

Yeah. I thought Coco Jones was incredible. I could tell she was really nervous. So like, I felt like her voice had a little bit of a tremble to it. In the beginning. I was not familiar with her game, like vocally insane. I never, I don't remember them doing like a concert ever before.

[Jackie]

Green Day.

[Turdy]

Green Day. Ben was doing bath time. So he was like, I don't even.

[Jackie]

We decided to not tell him that it happened.

[Turdy]

I don't think he knows.

[Jackie]

I don't think he, he didn't know that was happening because we, if he knew that he missed it, we'd have to go back and watch it again. And we're like, if he never knew that this happened, like, he wouldn't be upset that he missed it. Yeah, let's just move forward.

[Turdy]

And then they had like all the players like you know, standing around. It was like a little awkward, but it was fun. It was fresh, it was different. What else can I tell you? The commercials, like maybe I'm just like a jaded consumer. Like they did not do it for me in the way that I think in years past I was like, like making people be quiet during the commercials.

[Jackie]

Like, my game is on.

[Turdy]

Yeah, it's very hard to stand out, I think these days. And now people do pre commercials and we saw the fanatics one. That's still the best one, I think I love the Pepsi one.

[Jackie]

Oh yeah, the Pepsi Zero Sugar one.

[Turdy]

Yes. And you know, this super bowl recap is brought to you by Pepsi Zero Sugar. I loved their commercial, first of all. It's nice to feel represented in modern media. And you know, a fun fact about me that a lot of people don't know is I prefer Pepsi. I actually really do. And I think that we get so bogged down by labels in this country, in society. In society. And we're kind of label obsessed.

[Jackie]

And what about the product? What about quality?

[Turdy]

What about taste? And I loved to see a commercial taking that conversation seriously. And I really related to that cola loving bear in the Q mercial sort of working through those feelings. I went through that process. He's a little delayed. I went through that process here ago. I'm like, I had been making Pepsi Zero Sugar and you know the Pepsi brand, I had been making them cool for years. But it was nice to see My personal experience being represented in, on the.

[Jackie]

World stage, on the big screen, you experience the Pepsi paradox for yourself.

[Turdy]

Years ago.

[Jackie]

Years ago, when everything is taken out, labels, brands, and you're looking at and tasting two products, you're going, pepsi Zero Sugar.

[Turdy]

And we've always said that, you know, we've always said quality over, you know, image. And we like, I get it. You know, I've been in a place where I've become obsessed with what people think of me and the world's perception. And much like that bear, when you have that sort of come to life moment, it can be devastating at first. And then you're unstoppable.

[Jackie]

Your world opens up.

[Turdy]

So during the 2025 revival of the Pepsi Challenge, did you guys, you might not know this. 66% of people said that they preferred the taste of Pepsi Zero Sugar over Coca Cola Zero Sugar. Pepsi won 100 of markets in the 2025 Pepsi Challenge. Yes, even Atlanta. Enter the Pepsi paradox. I have chills just talking about it.

[Jackie]

It's.

[Turdy]

It's so shocking. And I am a certified Pepsi girl. And I feel like when people label you, you know, like diet soda, they never say Pepsi no.

[Jackie]

And everyone wants to say like, this one's better, that one's better. But there's nothing more truth telling than a blind taste test.

[Turdy]

I highly recommend, I want everyone to kind of stop and think about, you know, what they think they know about these beverages and give Pepsi Zero Sugar a chance. You're gonna be floored at the taste. And much like the bear, like, I'm not. You don't have to do like a blind taste test and like start. I mean, you can and like film it for TikTok if you want, but like, you don't need to put a blindfold on. Try and leave everything you know about these brands at the door. And I think that's kind of what we're always saying, right? About being open to changing your mind and not doing what you just think the world wants you to do or.

[Jackie]

Say no and not staying on the surface. I'm trying not surface lyrics.

[Turdy]

I'm trying not to get emotional about the commercial, but it's so much deeper than that. Do you know what I mean? I think as you get older, I don't know, I think you care less about these sort of. I'm actually getting choked up. Like labels.

[Jackie]

Call me what you want.

[Turdy]

Yes, I love Pepsi's ear shop.

[Jackie]

I'm a Pepsi Pepsi Zero sugar loving bear. That's who I am.

[Turdy]

If chills just.

[Jackie]

That's why I wear these bears to represent the cola loving bear who prefers Pepsi, zero sugar.

[Turdy]

And it was actually quite emotional to see him go through that journey, don't you think?

[Jackie]

And to be able to admit maybe I've been wrong.

[Turdy]

And that's kind of a theme of today's episode, you know, And I said it just a few minutes ago, like, I am not one too big to admit when I've been wrong.

[Jackie]

And neither was he.

[Turdy]

And it was nice to see that represented on the world's largest stage. It was.

[Jackie]

I think that's a message like literally.

[Turdy]

Everyone could learn from in all aspects of your life. But especially about what we're putting into our bodies.

[Jackie]

Yeah, Especially about tasting. Just because something's. You've done something one way for so long, it's never too late to change.

[Turdy]

And of course I hate to make everything about myself, but I feel as though I must.

[Jackie]

But I think that's the point of a good commercial, is to see yourself in it and make it about yourself.

[Turdy]

I feel vindicated. Of course. I have been ahead of the curve the entire time and I think a lot of people are now coming to this conclusion after seeing it on such a big stage. And it does feel kind of better. I'm better than everyone. Like I had this realization like actually 10 years ago, I want to say, when I was in college and like.

[Jackie]

We could say like Turdi was right, which would sort of balance out. When you said you were wrong earlier, like now you're like, the scales are evened.

[Turdy]

And it's again, not to make everything about myself. It does feel like people are confronting their life choices as a result of this commercial. And I confronted those choices years ago. Yeah, yeah.

[Jackie]

You didn't need this push. Like you're bigger than everyone else. But it's good that other people are now seeing what you've already seen and tasting what you've already tasted.

[Turdy]

Highly recommend you trying Pepsi zero sugar. Do your own mini Pepsi challenge with your loved ones. Have those hard conversations. Have those hard conversations and you will not regret it. Don't let the label decide. Let your taste decide.

[Jackie]

That's really beautiful. And a message that I want to take into all aspects of daily life.

[Turdy]

And specifically the fast five, of course.

[Jackie]

And specifically the fast five. Our next story.

[Turdy]

Oh, okay, we're done with. Let me just think one like anything else about this?

[Jackie]

Anything else about the Super Bowl Lickson raid? Oh, we talked about it yesterday. I mean, we can't get a bigger licks rad fan than Olivia Ashrae then Olivia, did you hear her?

[Turdy]

Of course. She's so funny. Did you see the video? It came out today. Him grabbing her tushy. No. Yeah.

[Jackie]

It was just like, where is it?

[Turdy]

It actually wasn't a grab. I want to say it was like a soft caress. It was quite. Where is it?

[Jackie]

Dumois. She's the leading source.

[Turdy]

Shout out to Dumois. I feel like Dumois went through kind of like an. A shake up where people stopped trusting Dumois during COVID It was like the Bible and then there were a couple of. And I just feel like she didn't know what to do with her platform. And now she is the leading news source on Alex Earl and Tom Brady. And I'm like, happy for her to have found her new niche.

[Jackie]

Yeah.

[Turdy]

And personally, she's my go to. Like, I live for it.

[Jackie]

Yeah. I do think I've actually noticed a change in Duma.

[Turdy]

I feel like it's not really, like blind item.

[Jackie]

No. It's more like a media site. I feel like they've hired.

[Turdy]

It's very boots on the ground, like people like this.

[Jackie]

It's like a just Jared he news. Like. Yeah.

[Turdy]

But it's very Internet, which I think.

[Jackie]

Everything'S like, packaged for virality.

[Turdy]

It's kind of brilliant. I think she's slaying even though she's getting hate because she posted the allegedly a photo of Lewis Hamilton and Kim Kardashian kissing. And people are like, please do not post AI generated content. And she can't prove that it is AI. And she can't prove that she posted.

[Jackie]

This photo as AI.

[Turdy]

Oh, she did?

[Jackie]

Yeah, it's in the caption.

[Turdy]

Oh, okay. Well, that's that.

[Jackie]

Yeah.

[Turdy]

So Alex islands Howard. Yeah. He touched her tushy.

[Jackie]

That's really crazy.

[Turdy]

It was crazy.

[Jackie]

I mean, I'm sure they're doing crazier, but, like, that's really wild.

[Turdy]

It was crazy. On the super bowl stage, they did like the hall of fame. Everybody came out of that photo booth with their jackets on and it was just crazy to see him there. It's like, oh, that's Alex Earl's situationship.

[Jackie]

Yeah. They were both on the field.

[Turdy]

That's my girl right there. I just love her. Slay mama.

[Jackie]

You think so now you think they're.

[Turdy]

Yeah, well, they both do live in Miami, so I think that they. Even though she's been like, exclusively in la, I hope she doesn't move.

[Jackie]

Well, she came back for Sally's birthday.

[Turdy]

Yes, of course. I don't think Tom was at the 25 hour affair. I hope not.

[Jackie]

He cannot hang.

[Turdy]

I really hope, though, that she.

[Jackie]

Happy birthday, Sally.

[Turdy]

Happy birthday, Sally. Hope your party was amazing. I know that she has a place in la and for Dancing with the Stars, it was great. And it's good, like, to have a place there because she probably has to go a lot for work. But I really hope she does not, not move to la. I think that would. There aren't a lot of things like she could do right now that would derail her success. And I'm not saying her moving to LA would, but it would. I don't think it would be good. Like, I think what people love about her is that she's just like that girl from Miami, you know, it's such a part of her image. And so he lives in Miami, so I think they've probably hung out between St. Bart's and now. Insane. What the. Do they talk about?

[Jackie]

Maybe, like, as Olivia said, like, being goats.

[Turdy]

Yeah. Goatness. Olivia's so funny.

[Jackie]

Olivia is so funny.

[Turdy]

I'm at a place where I've kind of accepted. When I first saw them in Saint Barts, I was still in the shock phase of. Of the whole thing. Now I'm in like a digesting, like, okay, I see you. Okay, I. I guess this is what we're doing.

[Jackie]

Yeah. I'm still in disbelief. Like, I actually don't believe it, even though allegedly he grabbed her tushy. But I do want to talk about some other goats. If we may switch subjects to the big news of the day. Utah liardom won gold at the Olympics. Jake, Paul's fiance, she broke an Olympic speed record in Milano Cortina yesterday. She came in first place in the women's 1000 meter. Jake posted a video of him, like, Sari crying, like, when she crossed the finish line. Then when she saw that she won and she broke the record. Like, they're so emo.

[Turdy]

The black tear, it was giving Lauren.

[Jackie]

Conrad 100% because she always wears her iconic eye makeup. And she got it together for the podium. Oh, of course.

[Turdy]

No. And like, all good. This was one of, like, my hallmark moments. Like, I've been waiting.

[Jackie]

Yeah.

[Turdy]

When it comes to the Olympics, like, things I want to see was her speed skate. Not only did she win gold, which was her goal, she set a new Olympic record. So it was just like an insane feat. And if you watch Paul American, you know that, like, a part of their story is, like, her personally sacrificing, like, so much, not being with her fiance and training, like, for the sake of this goal. And even if she didn't get it, like, it would have been a valiant effort, but, like, the fact that she did makes it all so worth it.

[Jackie]

And, like, now she can ride off to the. In the sunset with Jake, in peace, move to Puerto Rico and not always be, like, chasing the Olympic dream because she's climbed the mountain, she's reached the summit, and now she can move on.

[Turdy]

I also didn't realize how big of a deal she was in the Netherlands. Like, she's kind of like a Katie Ledecky.

[Jackie]

I'm trying.

[Turdy]

I was trying to think of, like, a similar athlete. She's so beloved. And, like, the announcers on the live broadcast were saying, like, you know, she's 5 million followers. It was giving, like, so chuky. They were like, she has 5 million followers. And then they cut to the broadcast in Dutch and, like, how the commenters were screaming like, she is this, like, a Michael Phelps of her generation. And she's so beloved and the pride of her country. I didn't know that.

[Jackie]

People.

[Turdy]

Speed skating is a huge sport. To me. It's, like, so random. But in the Netherlands, it's like swimming for us or figure skating. So she is this enormous. I didn't realize. And they had this, like, whole party for her. Did you see her, like, going on stage at this, like, Dutch party? Like, it's been such a. A fabulous saga of events. I love her.

[Jackie]

No, I think she's, like, my number one athlete in this Olympics of, like, who I am rooting for.

[Turdy]

Yeah.

[Jackie]

And she won gold. Like, this is amazing. I wonder if she still has more races or this is it.

[Turdy]

I don't know. I saw her at the party and, like, it was giving. It's over. Also her, like, she's just also the best influencer. She's like an Alona Mar type. Different types of content. But, you know, come with me. Here's what. We're meeting at the Olympic Village, and I just live for it.

[Jackie]

Yeah. And so she flew private. She did what she had to do. I completely endorse decision to fly private. Also, they talked about in Paul American how she's had, like, a bit of drama, like, going out on her own as an independent contractor. Like, she left the team that was training her because she wasn't, like, getting what she needed. And so, yeah, she's kind of, like, flying solo, literally. And she flew solo, and I'm fine with that.

[Turdy]

And it's actually amazing that she. It really speaks to her talent.

[Jackie]

And I feel like if she was sitting next to other people on the plane, she wouldn't have been able to win.

[Turdy]

Well, also, I've been watching a lot of speed skating, and it's low key. Insane how they skate completely perpendicular. Like, oh, my God. My back could never. And so, yeah, she needs a big jet to stretch out on. Like she's training half bent over the entire day.

[Jackie]

Yeah.

[Turdy]

Her back must kill her.

[Jackie]

Well, no, because she's doing it right.

[Turdy]

Yeah, it's. It's been a wonderful way to end her, like, athletic career.

[Jackie]

And we need season two of Paul American because we need to see the behind the scenes.

[Turdy]

Of course, he. I saw a camera. Like, they were.

[Jackie]

Well, they film everything. And then he wrote in his caption, like, you'll see it in the documentary. Like, I wouldn't be surprised if he makes a documentary about her.

[Turdy]

Stop. I love her. And I guess she's, like, moving to Puerto Rico. I know. Jake. Paul's, like, packing up her things while she's at the race. Like, stop. I can't.

[Jackie]

It was really beautiful.

[Turdy]

It was. And it's just like. It's so impressive, you know?

[Jackie]

Yeah, it's so impressive.

[Turdy]

Congrats, Utah.

[Jackie]

No. This is so major.

[Turdy]

Of the Neanderthals.

[Jackie]

Of the Neanderthals speed skating team. Our next story. First promo just dropped for Taylor. Taylor, Frankie Paul as the bachelorette wondering if she's worthy of love. So Taylor, Frankie Paul's our next bachelorette. They put out a teaser video set to look what you made me do. She's, like, walking through a hallway in a red dress, like, with all, like, you know, content of her throughout the years on the walls. And then she busts through the glass and she's like, maybe I'll just be myself. And then she's wearing her cozies and her crocs. And that's what we have so far. The season premieres March 22.

[Turdy]

It did bring me back. Like, there was a time when the bachelor promo dropped, and every year it was like, it was a Super bowl. Like, when we.

[Jackie]

And then, like, a dress made out of flowers and then what song they.

[Turdy]

Were going to use. It literally made songs. I remember fifth harmony. That's my girl. Like, any song they chose, like, was.

[Jackie]

The song of the year.

[Turdy]

Their impact at one point just reminded me, this clip, like, of how much has changed, but, like, how big their impact was for, like, my young adult life. It was giving, like, really scripted. It was kind of weird.

[Jackie]

I thought it was giving low budget.

[Turdy]

I thought it was weird. Okay, I need to be a hater.

[Jackie]

And I was glad that it wound up being like the glamorous was. The point of the glam was that it wasn't for her and she shed it off. Because when I was watching her in that dress, I'm like, that dress is wearing her. Like, it wasn't a moment at all. I was like, this is not glamorous. And maybe the point was to be like, yeah, that. Because she's not comfortable. Maybe I'm reading too much into it. But it just felt like low budget and, you know, the whole thing was on a green screen. So she's just like walking around a green screen. And then they added all this shit.

[Turdy]

And I guess they're like playing into a storyline which is her life. It's not a storyline. But like, that, you know, she chooses these terrible people because it's sort of like a projection of how she feels, you know, how she sees herself. And I don't know. It didn't just give me a lot of confidence because I feel like when you go to the Bachelor, like, you should be ready. Like, you should have answered these questions.

[Jackie]

No, I. I'm not feeling a lot of confidence in the actual, like, relationship that will come out of the show. Like, I think it will be really entertaining. I love her. I just want to watch her. But I agree, like, I don't know if she's, like, ready to meet the one.

[Turdy]

Right. All these in. In past, when I think of, like, the girls whose promos, like, stuck with me, it's like, you know, they are so ready for this. They know who they are. They won't accept anything less. And, you know, you're supposed to go on the bachelor journey when that self discovery journey has ended. And it feels like her self discovery journey and her bachelor journey are the same journey.

[Jackie]

And that's never good. They say you shouldn't do that.

[Turdy]

Like, you. You can't love someone until you love yourself.

[Jackie]

You can't find someone until you find. Yeah.

[Turdy]

So not to be like, so deep, but it was a weird one.

[Jackie]

Yeah. And then the promo picture is like her busting out of a Barbie box. And it says, like, if you don't fit the mold, break it with, like, a bunch of, like, things around her.

[Turdy]

Wait, can we talk about. I sent it to you. I forget if it was New York magazine or New Yorker because I actually get them confused. I think it was New York. New York magazine did this cover story. Let me just read it. It was about how, like, Mormons are taking over popular culture. I literally DM'd it to you because I was so shocked. Okay.

[Jackie]

Yeah, yeah.

[Turdy]

So, wow. I DM you a lot. Just give me two seconds.

[Jackie]

A lot of content back and forth.

[Turdy]

Oh, maybe I put it in text or.

[Jackie]

Yeah, yeah, I think it's in our text.

[Turdy]

Okay. So it was New York magazine And it was 1, 2, 3, 4, 7 Mormon women. And it says ding dong. Do you have a moment to talk about how Mormons conquered pop culture? A report from Utah. So on the COVID is Taylor, Frankie Paul, Whitney Leavitt and Jesse Draper from the Real Housewives of Salt Lake City. Mormon Sex Lives, which are of course three Mormon women. And then there's also Whitney Carson representing how so many of the dance pros on Dancing with the Stars train in Utah and are Mormon. Hannah Neely, of course, Ballerina Farm. Heather Gay, Real Housewives of Salt Lake City. And then in the back corner, Rach Parcel, who is a fixture here. We talk about her all the time. She is one of the real OG Mommy Mormon YouTube bloggers. When we think of like mommy Mormon, she is the blueprint. Everybody copies her. She's got the big house, she's got the hundred kids. Like, she's got. She is that girl. Now the weird thing and why I sent it to Jackie is because we've.

[Jackie]

Got Taylor, Frankie Paul front and center.

[Turdy]

And then everyone else sort of like fans out.

[Jackie]

Yeah.

[Turdy]

And it's interesting because a lot of, you know, being a public figure and just like being a woman is, you know, we notice when you look different, the picture of Heather Gay is so recent. It is. You know, she's put. Says she's on a GLP1. Yeah. So it's post her, like sort of glow up.

[Jackie]

It's the present.

[Turdy]

It's a present day. The Whitney Levitt picture is her red hair. So it's like seriously from the last year. Yeah.

[Jackie]

But also it's. It's. She's also been on a journey. It's from yesterday. Yeah, she.

[Turdy]

She lost weight. So it's literally from yesterday. Like the Jesse Draper photo because Jesse Draper is always really public about her plastic surgeries procedures. And she just recently got one done and she looks like very different from it. And this picture of Jesse draper is from 24 hours ago. Like, it's so recent. The picture of Rachel Parcel has to be 15 years old. It's so weird that they did that. It's like so deliberate and like, mean.

[Jackie]

But. But why her?

[Turdy]

I don't know.

[Jackie]

It's so weird. I mean, it's insane.

[Turdy]

She looks 17 in the picture.

[Jackie]

Yeah. I Think it's like, her wedding photo.

[Turdy]

Like, I don't know if it's meant to be shady or whatever or lazy.

[Jackie]

Like, they just, like, looked up Rachel Parcel and didn't, like, even know that, you know, she doesn't really look like that anymore because she's grown.

[Turdy]

And it is like, I got sidelined by the picture they chose for Rachel Parcel, but it is, like, a good call about how, like, Mormons really do right now in pop culture, like, are kind of taking over every major. I didn't even realize, like, how all the Dancing with the Stars people are more Utah Mormons. There is this, like, obsession, like, fixation with Mormon culture. And then, of course, the comments were, like, so interesting to read because half the people were like, like, you know, these people aren't Mormon. Why are we losing a mar. Like, so.

[Jackie]

Well, I just think they're. They're fascinating. They're fascinating. They're beautiful and interesting and. And I think a lot of the things that, like, they value are things that we find entertaining.

[Turdy]

Yeah.

[Jackie]

You know, like beauty and family.

[Turdy]

Right. Like, I think a huge tenant in their religion is, like, seeking perfection, like, always to be, like, doing your best, looking your best family. Like, so that makes for good TV and just good, interesting things to follow.

[Jackie]

And I think it's a. I. I mean, I. I wonder. I'm sure the. The. The church isn't thrilled about it because they would rather see, like, you know, perfect Mormons or whatever. But, like, I think that actually it's a net positive for a Mormon Q score.

[Turdy]

I completely agree. I bet the church, like, is pissed about it, but I feel like it's.

[Jackie]

Especially considering the last big thing was, like, Book of Mormon.

[Turdy]

So that's what I was going to say is that, like, up until, like, the Real Housewives of Salt Lake City and all these shows, like, the only real thing I knew about Mormonism was that Broadway show. I saw it. And it ain't the best for the Mormons. So I imagine that they're thrilled with the.

[Jackie]

The change of tone. Yeah, but I. I don't think they're thrilled.

[Turdy]

No.

[Jackie]

But I do think it is better. It is good for them.

[Turdy]

Yeah, me too.

[Jackie]

Our next story. Oh, Marc Anthony is speaking out about the Beckham family feud. The man at the center of the drama.

[Turdy]

Oh, I didn't see this.

[Jackie]

So Mark Anthony told the Hollywood Reporter he was discussing, you know, the drams, and he said, they're a wonderful, wonderful family. He said, I've known them since before the kids were born. I'm Godfather to Cruise. I'm really close to the family, but I have nothing to say about what happened there. It's extremely unfortunate how it's playing out, but how it's playing out is hardly the truth. He said.

[Turdy]

Okay, so he said a whole bunch of nothing. But then a little at the end.

[Jackie]

He'S at the center of the drama because allegedly he performed at the wedding a very romantic, special song. And he called up the most beautiful woman in the room, Victoria Beckham.

[Turdy]

And apparently, like it was.

[Jackie]

Which makes sort of like him the villain in the story. Unless Victoria told him to do that. It was just him wanting to celebrate his beautiful friend Victoria Beckham.

[Turdy]

Yeah.

[Jackie]

Before Brooklyn and Nicola had their first dance. And apparently Brooklyn and Victoria weren't supposed to have a dance, which is disgusting for boy mamas everywhere.

[Turdy]

Agreed. That was like. I know, like, I see through things through my own lens, but that's definitely where my mind went. Surprise mother, son dance. That means there was no dance to begin with.

[Jackie]

I'm on the side of reels of like, of boy. I don't want to say toxic boy mamas. It's like boy mamas who stand with Victoria Beckham.

[Turdy]

Oh, that's beautiful.

[Jackie]

Yeah. And it's like all of them dancing. The Spice Girls talking about how they're going to dance at their son's wedding.

[Turdy]

Mama, I give. Okay. I didn't see that Marc Anthony had spoken out. I kind of was waiting for him to say something. And while he didn't really get involved, you could read between the lines. And he's saying. He's saying that Nicola. Lying snobs. Yeah.

[Jackie]

Lying brats. Yeah, brats. I'll ship them off to Switzerland.

[Turdy]

Parent Trap.

[Jackie]

Yeah, Parent Trap with, like a side of. It takes two. You know what I mean? Cuz Clarice and Meredith Blake are the same person.

[Turdy]

Nobody talks enough about. It Takes Two. Rest in peace. Kirsty Alley. One of the best movies ever made. Dennis Quaid, who's. No, no, I'm getting confused with Parent Trap. Who's like the hot dad. It feels like Christie Alley, but it.

[Jackie]

Also feels like the dad from Little Giants.

[Turdy]

It takes to IMDb 1995. I need to watch this movie again. Alyssa and Amanda. So, so real.

[Jackie]

Okay, Alyssa and Amanda.

[Turdy]

The cast is Steve Guttenberg. Oh, of course. Steve Guttenberg. He's so fucking classic. Roger Calloway.

[Jackie]

Yeah.

[Turdy]

Ugh, I love this movie. Loki. There was a time where Kirsty Alley was, like, banging out. Look who's talking. That movie with John Travolta about The Babies who Talk. I need to rewatch it because, like, it's the best movie ever made.

[Jackie]

Yeah.

[Turdy]

And then I think they came out with, like, three sequels because it was that good. And each sequel was amazing.

[Jackie]

And Clarice sort of got.

[Turdy]

Who's the actress who plays Clarice?

[Jackie]

Jane Sibbet. She got sort of, like, shoehorned into playing, like, me evil stepmother.

[Turdy]

Yeah.

[Jackie]

Because she was also in Au Pair. Remember that movie? Movie.

[Turdy]

Of course I remember Au Pair. That was a crazy movie.

[Jackie]

It was an amazing movie. And it did, I think, really good wonders for the au pair community. Everyone wants an au pair. There's nothing more fabulous than an au pair. Yeah, but it's not what you think.

[Turdy]

No, I know.

[Jackie]

It's like.

[Turdy]

But I'm saying it's an au pair, so.

[Jackie]

It is, but it sounds really fabulous.

[Turdy]

Yeah, no, like, the life of an au pair is actually really dark.

[Jackie]

Really?

[Turdy]

Yeah. You, like, get paid nothing. And a lot of the dads are, like, predatory because it's just, like, an excuse to hire, like, a beautiful young woman.

[Jackie]

Yeah. I don't like.

[Turdy]

And I think I'm gonna get a governess.

[Jackie]

A governess is what you think in Au Paris.

[Turdy]

Correct.

[Jackie]

You need a governess?

[Turdy]

Big time. Will you be my governess?

[Jackie]

I would be an amazing guy.

[Turdy]

You would.

[Jackie]

Dream job.

[Turdy]

Literally live in a castle.

[Jackie]

Are you ready for our fifth and final story? I am. Kim Kardashian appears to be cheered on by Lewis Hamilton as she attempts the Titanic challenge with her sisters Chloe and Kim. So.

[Turdy]

Oh.

[Jackie]

Shockingly, last night, Kylie posted a video of the sisters doing the Titanic challenge.

[Turdy]

Like, did you also think it was a throwback video?

[Jackie]

No, I was more so listening, like, because there were a lot of men, like, laughing in the background. Like, it was, like, giving date night. I was thinking, Timothy's there because Kylie posted it and the sisters were hanging out and, like, men were laughing. I guess it could have been Rob, but, like, that's so not interesting.

[Turdy]

No, I feel like Rob doesn't hang out with them.

[Jackie]

It better not have been Rob. But now they're saying that they think it's Lewis Hamilton, like, hanging with the sisters. But I could also see, like, Lewis and Timothy, like, wanting to hang.

[Turdy]

Oh, definitely. Yeah. I. I really thought. I don't know if there was, like, a filter on the video. It looked like a Snapchat video from the King Kylie era, and she was, like, reposting it.

[Jackie]

Well, the vibes were Snapchat of, like, giggling in the living room.

[Turdy]

Stupid. And, like, Kylie never hangs out with her sister. So I thought for sure she, like, was posting this throwback video from the last time she hung out with her sister.

[Jackie]

Right. Because she doesn't post stuff like this anymore. I was honestly shocked that she posted. It was just, like, so silly.

[Turdy]

And Kim had, like, long. A long ponytail. It was giving, like, the Miami era.

[Jackie]

Yeah.

[Turdy]

Okay. I'm not. Okay.

[Jackie]

But I don't think it was a throwback at all. I think it was. It was, like, last night or the night before. Well, the night before was Super Bowl. So literally, like, maybe it's from the super bowl night.

[Turdy]

Maybe they were, like, all watching. Oh, no. Kim was at the super bowl.

[Jackie]

And. And Chloe and Kylie weren't, but Kendall was.

[Turdy]

I wasn't, like, looking in the background trying to hear voices because I thought. I don't know, it was probably, like, Ray J in the background. Like, I thought it was so old.

[Jackie]

Chris Humphries. No. So there were, like, men chuckling. And I thought it was Timothy because.

[Turdy]

Like, men should never laugh. Like, never broke.

[Jackie]

Should never laugh.

[Turdy]

Sorry.

[Jackie]

Continue. But it seems to be Lewis Hamilton. I don't know why you guys think Lewis. I'm going Timothy. But it could also be both. I don't think it's like, a multiple people hang night.

[Turdy]

I don't think Timothy would find this funny. Like, I couldn't see him laughing at this, you know?

[Jackie]

But if Kylie thought it was funny.

[Turdy]

Yeah.

[Jackie]

And he loves Kylie.

[Turdy]

Yeah.

[Jackie]

And I don't think she would, like, do something that he finds, like, stupid. Yeah.

[Turdy]

They also have been together for five years. Like, I think they think less about, like, should I do this in front of him?

[Jackie]

They're comfortable.

[Turdy]

Yeah.

[Jackie]

Around each other.

[Turdy]

Just a guess.

[Jackie]

Yeah. And really happy the way I, like.

[Turdy]

Actually don't care that Kim's dating Lewis Hamilton. Like, it's so not doing it for me.

[Jackie]

I agree. It's actually doing the opposite for me.

[Turdy]

But I think that's more so like, a reflection of where I'm personally at with Kim, which it's nothing about Louis self.

[Jackie]

Yeah.

[Turdy]

Which is just, like, a real indifference.

[Jackie]

Yeah. I was talking about this with Olivia yesterday when she was asking, like, which one you vibe with the most. And I was just saying, like, Chloe boy. But it also changes. Yeah.

[Turdy]

Sorry, Chris. Like, Chris is eternal.

[Jackie]

But also Kylie.

[Turdy]

Yeah. But Kylie.

[Jackie]

And, like, by the way, when I'm.

[Turdy]

Talking about the show, Courtney, sometimes Courtney.

[Jackie]

Breastfeeding mom, sometimes Kim. Like, there was a period.

[Turdy]

Yes.

[Jackie]

A couple years ago.

[Turdy]

Yes.

[Jackie]

You know, and it's not like she's done something wrong. But like, you just everything flows and it's all good. It's all good vibes, you know? Yeah.

[Turdy]

But to me, like, Chris is who she is and she has been forever. So, like, I'm going Chris.

[Jackie]

But I also could, like, if Kim dated someone like interesting to me right now, it could change every. It could bust the case wide open. It's true. And instead she's not.

[Turdy]

She needs to just do something different and date. Like someone ugly and poor.

[Jackie]

No, no, I sure. But like also a celebrity. Even when she dated Pete Davidson. That was so interesting.

[Turdy]

Yeah.

[Jackie]

Something different. So buzzy.

[Turdy]

Yeah.

[Jackie]

And I'm open. It'll be hard for her though. Even she was dating like Tom Brady, I'd be like, yawn.

[Turdy]

Agreed.

[Jackie]

I'll have to noodle on it.

[Turdy]

Yeah, noodle. Let's do deer toasters. Which is brought to you by Taylor Farm Chop Salad kids.

[Jackie]

Oh, yum.

[Turdy]

You know, we love salad. We are like, we are salad beacons of health. We also are salads. Like, you never know what to expect. We're just kind of like a mix of different things.

[Jackie]

You can like mix it up, put it in a blender.

[Turdy]

But making a salad is so much work. So many dishes. Like, who wants to do that? Not me. And then when it comes to like bag salads, it's a nice idea in theory, but I think a lot of times, like the brands fall flat.

[Jackie]

The execution, it's very difficult for everyone except Taylor Farms.

[Turdy]

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[Jackie]

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[Turdy]

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[Jackie]

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[Turdy]

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[Jackie]

Yeah, sounds about right.

[Turdy]

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[Jackie]

Okay. I don't think this is a big deal. I think there are a lot of permutations of chats, and whichever chat pops off, like, just speaks to the nature of the people in the chat. But, like, there's no reason why that chat should be more vibrant than the chat that you're in. And if you want to be involved in more chat things, then write in the chat you're in and make that the one. Sure.

[Turdy]

I also think it's just, like, simply a seniority thing, like family chats. Like, I don't know how serious people take it, but, like, you really only get added when you're like. And you said that this girlfriend has been with a brother longer than you. So I just feel like maybe your time's not in yet. And, like, it's actually nice that they have a chat with you. But the OG family chat, like, you're not, you haven't sort of been there long enough to be a part of. And your boyfriend not telling you. Like, I, I, I want to say, one, he's a man. He probably didn't like, notice or really care. And two, like, it was probably more in service of your feelings. Why do you need to know about a chat that you're not in in?

[Jackie]

Yeah, I agree. And you are in a chat, right. And there are just, like, a lot normalize having, like, all different combinations of chats without this person, without that.

[Turdy]

Because what's worse than, like, being in a chat that doesn't apply to you?

[Jackie]

Right.

[Turdy]

This is so Kardashians, like, talking about the chats.

[Jackie]

But we have so many chats. And, like, some I think someone could.

[Turdy]

Be like, oh, my God, how am I not in that chat? Well, it's like, it doesn't hurt.

[Jackie]

It doesn't apply to you. It doesn't apply to you. And the one that applies to you, you are in. There is a version that applies to you. Yeah.

[Turdy]

I think you're, like, looking way too much into the chat. I'm trying to think.

[Jackie]

And, like, you guys get married and everything, you will in this chat forever. Like, it's, it's all coming. Like, you don't need to rush this stuff.

[Turdy]

Yeah, I agree. And I certainly wouldn't be mad at your boyfriend. Like, there are definitely things like you should be mad at him for, I'm sure. Like, he didn't take out the garbage, but, like, this is really not one of them.

[Jackie]

No.

[Turdy]

It's so important to pick our battles.

[Jackie]

Yeah, I agree. And, like, this comes in time. Like, I feel like people in. I don't know how long you've been dating for, but I feel like people just, like, think that they are owed this just by date. Like, no, all of it. First of all, it unfolds organically when you are needed, when they're going on a trip and let's have a chance. Like, these things. You can't just be like, put me in the chat. Like, no. Whenever. When there's a group photo, you want to send it to everyone. Then all of a sudden, we have a chat. Like, let the chips fall where they may.

[Turdy]

Let the chats fall where they may.

[Jackie]

Don't force it. It will happen organically. And then if they continue on this.

[Turdy]

Path, if you, like, force it and they put you in. And then it's like, no one's gonna write in the chat because, like, it's.

[Jackie]

Just awkward and, like, yeah, you're. There are things that just.

[Turdy]

Not for everyone.

[Jackie]

Not for everyone all the time. Like, you will get there, and then soon you'll be in the chat, and they don't stop writing, and they're like, get me out of the chat. So just accept where you are right now.

[Turdy]

This next one felt, like, deeply personal.

[Jackie]

Oh, hello.

[Turdy]

Is this postpartum rage or am I justified? Which could be a whole new segment. I just want to say, because nobody talks about postpartum rage. I actually had a lot of pregnancy rage, too. People talk a lot about, like, the different emotions. Like, a lot of people get, like, very emotional, very sad or whatever. I experienced mostly rage. Fiery, passionate rage about. Mostly directed at bed. I'm a new mom, and I love my husband. I've never. He's never given me a reason to question him. After numerous asks to throw away his vape because we have a daughter now, and swearing that he was done, I caught him on the security camera using one Again, when I confronted him, he completely lied a little too well. And only when I confess that I watched him on the camera did he slowly then start to admit to it, saying that he lied because he knew that I didn't like the vape. Is this shady? Am I being hormonal? Like, what is the proper reaction?

[Jackie]

So to me sitting here having no personal stake in it, this, like, doesn't sound like a huge deal. However, to you, there have been multiple crimes committed here that have to do with your daughter's health, your partner's health, lying, trust, betrayal, all of this while you are in a very fragile state. So I understand for you, dear reader, why you're seeing red. And I'm not going to stop you.

[Turdy]

And I am coming at this as a former vape addict just to perhaps, like, color the situation a little bit. Like, I want to assume that he's trying his best. It's so hard. Might I recommend quit with Jones? I don't think, like, you should reprimand him.

[Jackie]

No, I'm putting myself in her shoes. I'm irate. I just been pregnant for 10 months. I've just given birth. Perhaps I'm breastfeeding. I'm giving everything I have to our child. You can't stop vaping for one minute, and then you would lie to my face? The woman who birthed your. Oh, disgust. Oh, I'm sick. Yeah, I'm sick. It's not about the vape.

[Turdy]

No, I do sympathize the fact that.

[Jackie]

You can't make one small change. When I change any. Everything about myself. My body.

[Turdy]

No, you're right.

[Jackie]

My mind.

[Turdy]

Sorry. Not me. Taking the side of the husband. That's like.

[Jackie]

That's what I mean. When I sit here, I'm like, from the outside, I'm like, oh, he vaped. Whatever. But, like, no, no, no. When I'm in that bed, I'm holding that baby and I see my husband on the camera. Oh, I'm sick.

[Turdy]

And of course, like, it does make me question, like, the obsession with putting this phallic, like, thing in his mouth. Like, perhaps he's gay. Like, you can't stop sucking on the vape. Well, maybe that explains some other things.

[Jackie]

Things I'm mad for you, like.

[Turdy]

Yeah, no, the more Jackie's right, like.

[Jackie]

Like, you're entitled to be enraged. It's not a big deal, though.

[Turdy]

And don't let this steal your joy. No, this is such a joyful time.

[Jackie]

But this is the exact sort of thing that just, like, gets a postpartum woman riled up. Because, like, when we've done what we've done, you really have to do everything. You have no excuse to step out of line. When we've done what we've done.

[Turdy]

Considering what we have done and what.

[Jackie]

We will do and what we are doing and what we.

[Turdy]

We will continue to do. Mind you, there's no excuse. Yeah, and also send him a. Quit with Jones. We have a. We have a code.

[Jackie]

It's not about the V. No.

[Turdy]

Like, now you have to find a solution for him.

[Jackie]

Respect and the refusal to change and improve. Yeah. When I've done what I've done. It's true.

[Turdy]

It's really beautiful. Okay, ready for Our next to third and final, my husband wants to quit his very well paying job. His B boss is very toxic. And my husband is very miserable. The problem is he doesn't really have a backup plan. He wants to freelance. He's confident that he'll make even, even more money than he does now in his field by freelancing and he will have much more freedom and flexibility. He doesn't want to wait to find a backup plan. He's so over it and ready to use our emergency savings in the interim. Also, this is not the first time he's gotten really sick of a job because of a terrible boss. Are corporate bosses usually terrible managers or is my husband the problem? It's very possible. Like, your husband has had multiple toxic bosses. Like, I would like to know how many. Is it like every single one? Because then it's like, yeah, you're the problem. But the thing is, like, I don't really care. Um, one thing about me, like my toxic traditionalist comes out in Dear Toasters. I'm like, I'm sorry, this man is a provider. That's his literally job. And his boss is toxic. What are you, a girl? Like, figure it out. Yeah, I, like, I literally don't care about his happiness. And if he wants to quit and be a freelancer, like, he now needs to spend the next six months to a year building a freelance business. Seeing, like, you can't just like figure it out. Like, I'm sorry, you're a man.

[Jackie]

No, there's like bills to pay while you're figuring.

[Turdy]

Jackie, like, if he had this sort of side hustle that he thought he could take full time, like there was a little bit of infrastructure there. I would say, you know what, maybe he could take a little bit and.

[Jackie]

Like you never like quit your full time job until your side hustle eclipses.

[Turdy]

That's my biggest issue with Shark Tank. They always get mad at people who have like full time jobs. Like, sorry, I have a family to. Yeah, like, I hate that shit. Like toxic entrepreneur culture. No, like you can build your side hustle till it's at a point where you think if you then had, you know, X more hours in the day, you could really create. Crush it like a little bit of a risk, a jump there, having nothing. Like, what are you, like a 17 year old girl?

[Jackie]

Yeah.

[Turdy]

No, no. Sorry. I say, fuck no. I don't even care if he's the toxic one. Maybe he is. Maybe isn't. Sorry, you have to go to work.

[Jackie]

No. Someone who has like an issue with at Every workplace, like, they are the problem.

[Turdy]

But she said only, like, this one and the one before. So, like, maybe. It definitely could be a coincidence. And there are a lot of corporate bosses and managers who are just like, so high on their own supply. Like, there should be a study. It's like, why people come the worst versions of themselves when they get, like, a little bit of power in the corporate office. Like, that's total real. Yeah, that's totally real.

[Jackie]

It is. But you go, you do your thing, you come home, and if you don't like it, work. You have to have a plan B.

[Turdy]

Like, before nights and weekends.

[Jackie]

Ditch plan A.

[Turdy]

Nights and weekends.

[Jackie]

Not cool.

[Turdy]

Not cool. And like, I hate to get to like, the breakup with your boyfriend thing.

[Jackie]

But, like, is it a boyfriend?

[Turdy]

It's a husband. I don't know, like a husband who's not eager to provide.

[Jackie]

Like, it sounds like he thinks he's eager to provide because he's gonna go do. He's not saying, like, someone who's so risky.

[Turdy]

Like, that's to me.

[Jackie]

But this is personal compass to think. Oh, I'll just consult. What if I just consulted?

[Turdy]

It's like, not. Yeah, this is definitely like a personal thing. Like, I'm aware of my own, like, things that I really value are, like, stability. I don't like to take risks, especially when it comes to money. And like, I think a home needs to be like a stable. And if your job is boring and unfulfilling, you're like, that's just too bad. Yeah, but that's, that's. I'm not saying that's the right way to be. That's how I think things should be. So are you this, like, sort of willy nilly freelance, like, flower, hair in the wind type of gal, or do you also sort of value those pillars of stability?

[Jackie]

Yeah.

[Turdy]

And security. Because if that's the case, like, maybe it's not a match.

[Jackie]

I think he needs to establish, like, proof of concept before he can obviously quit his job.

[Turdy]

Like, as. As a man quitting a job. And like, going out on your own is such a big thing. And I think more, more, more precautions need to be put into place.

[Jackie]

Agreed.

[Turdy]

Thank you to everybody who wrote in. That's Dear Toasters, our weekly advice segment. And that is also our show, the super bowl sequel.

[Jackie]

Sequel. I love that.

[Turdy]

Yeah, I just, it literally just came to me.

[Jackie]

Oh, it's so. That's my creative. I love when. In the 11th hour when it just comes to us.

[Turdy]

Because I was thinking, like, what the.

[Jackie]

Are we gonna super bowl Turdy's version turd in the title. You know how we feel about that.

[Turdy]

That I love it. Jackie hates it.

[Jackie]

No, no, I don't hate it.

[Turdy]

No. Jackie hates having her names in the title.

[Jackie]

No. And or when the titles are like so niche because I want to attract a lot of listeners.

[Turdy]

That's beautiful.

[Jackie]

And new people. So I think the super bowl sequel people are like oh I like the Super Bowl.

[Turdy]

Then they are these two morons and they're like okay, this is not what.

[Jackie]

I thought it was.

[Turdy]

I'll try the daily thank you guys so much for listening to the Tesla Monday morning show where you deliver the Fast 5 stories in each and every Monday through Friday on YouTube. So you're watching this on YouTube. Please feel free to subscribe and give us video a thumbs up. We're also available podcasting podcast asking fan so it's Spotify June Citra Public radio I read a cast talks all the places I've listen to podcast fast CV fest review but a beautiful setting and.

[Jackie]

We are love you bye.