The Surreal Housewives of Beverly Hill: Wednesday, November 20th, 2024

Summary

The Toast Episode Summary: "The Surreal Housewives of Beverly Hill" Hosts: Jackie & Claudia Oshry | Release Date: November 20, 2024

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Introduction

The episode kicks off with Jackie and Claudia Oshry engaging in their signature playful banter, setting a lighthearted tone for the discussions to follow. They attempt a "heart hand" gesture, symbolizing their deep connection and camaraderie.

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Real Housewives of Beverly Hills Season Premiere Review

Timestamp: 00:50 – 02:24

Jackie and Claudia delve into the season premiere of The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills. Jackie mentions taking a break last season to watch it with fresh eyes, avoiding any preconceived biases:

Jackie Oshry (02:16): "I didn't watch at all last season. So I came in with, like, kind of a refresh."

They discuss standout moments, including Dorit and Lala Kent's appearances, noting the excitement around potential plot twists:

Claudia Oshry (01:19): "And Dorit was there, and I was like, is tonight the night?"

Both hosts express their favoritism towards housewives Street and Erica, with Jackie surprisingly sharing her first-time dislike for Kyle Richards:

Jackie Oshry (02:21): "And, like, kind of for the first time ever in my Housewives career, like, hating Kyle."

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Personal Stories and Q&A

Timestamp: 02:24 – 05:45

Jackie opens up about her pregnancy journey, addressing aversions to certain foods and places—specifically mentioning her discomfort with kosher grocers:

Jackie Oshry (04:00): "Gilmore Girls. Something I've really, sadly been having an aversion to is the kosher grocer."

Claudia joins in to discuss household challenges, sharing her own experiences with Home Depot mishaps:

Claudia Oshry (10:00): "I went to Home Depot and that was major."

The duo uses this section to connect with their listeners through personal anecdotes and shared experiences.

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Celebrity News: Pete Davidson and The Bachelor Update

Timestamp: 20:38 – 21:13

Claudia provides an update on Pete Davidson's relationship rumors with Maria from The Bachelor. Clarifying misinformation, she states:

Claudia Oshry (20:43): "She said, never dated Pete. False rumor."

Jackie adds insight into Pete's social media strategies, supporting the validity of Claudia's update:

Jackie Oshry (21:13): "I believe it. Like, I believe it too."

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One Direction Members Reunite at Liam Payne's Funeral

Timestamp: 21:13 – 23:30

In a poignant segment, Jackie and Claudia discuss the emotional reunion of the former One Direction members—Harry, Zayn, Niall, and Louis—at Liam Payne's funeral:

Jackie Oshry (21:27): "The One Direction members emotionally reunited at Liam Payne's funeral in the UK."

They reflect on the public's reaction and the cultural implications of celebrity funerals being highly publicized:

Claudia Oshry (22:16): "I feel like it's just something, like, I will never get on board with."

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Wicked Musical Casting News

Timestamp: 26:15 – 32:42

The hosts provide an update on the casting for the Wicked musical adaptation. Initially, Lady Gaga as Elphaba and Shawn Mendes as Fiyero were considered, but the project eventually moved forward with Jonathan Bailey and Cynthia Erivo under director John M. Chu:

Claudia Oshry (26:32): "Wicked nearly had a different director and stars. It nearly starred Lady Gaga as Elphaba and Shawn Mendes as Bach."

Jackie critiques the initial casting choices, favoring the theater-trained actors selected for the production:

Jackie Oshry (26:54): "I think the integrity of the entire play, I feel, remained intact."

They also touch on other notable auditionees like Amanda Seyfried and Renee Rapp, expressing regret over their absence in the final casting.

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Love News: Jay Cutler's Engagement

Timestamp: 34:34 – 35:21

Jackie and Claudia share the latest on Jay Cutler's engagement to Samantha Robertson, two years post-divorce:

Claudia Oshry (34:37): "Jay Cutler is engaged to Samantha Robertson two years after his divorce."

They discuss the timeline discrepancies and the public's reaction to the news:

Jackie Oshry (35:07): "Multiple sources close to the couple have told People magazine that the two of them have taken the next step in their relationship."

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Aviation Food News: Delta and Shake Shack Partnership

Timestamp: 38:08 – 42:32

The hosts critique Delta Airlines' new partnership with Shake Shack, offering burgers exclusively in first class on flights departing Boston over 900 miles:

Claudia Oshry (38:08): "Delta flights will be serving Shake Shack burgers in first class."

They express skepticism about the true luxury of this offering, considering existing Shake Shack locations in terminals:

Jackie Oshry (38:30): "Let me buy a fifteen hundred dollar ticket for a $4 hamburger."

The discussion highlights broader consumer dissatisfaction with airline services and perceived value.

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Real Housewives of Beverly Hills: Sutton Strack's Claim

Timestamp: 47:29 – 71:58

In the final segment, Jackie and Claudia delve into allegations made by Sutton Strack regarding Kyle Richards' attempted hookup with Kevin Costner in Aspen:

Claudia Oshry (47:33): "Sutton Strack is claiming that Kyle Richards tried to hook up with Kevin Costner in Aspen."

They dissect the dynamics between Dorit, Kyle, and other cast members, addressing ongoing marital issues and personal transformations:

Jackie Oshry (52:06): "And Dorit was like, you aren't willing to work on it. Think of all the shit I've put up with."

The discussion extends to the show's portrayal of friendships, power dynamics, and the personal growth of the participants.

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Conclusion

Jackie and Claudia wrap up the episode with plans to adjust their show segments, ensuring better alignment with their content schedule. They invite listeners to engage with their exclusive content on Patreon and tease upcoming episodes that promise to delve deeper into The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills storylines.

Claudia Oshry (71:56): "Maybe we'll even put in four to make it worse. We'll say, we'll see what the cards have in store."

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Notable Quotes:

• Jackie Oshry (02:21): "And, like, kind of for the first time ever in my Housewives career, like, hating Kyle."
• Claudia Oshry (21:13): "She's friends with his sister. Case closed."
• Jackie Oshry (26:54): "I think the integrity of the entire play, I feel, remained intact."
• Claudia Oshry (38:08): "Delta flights will be serving Shake Shack burgers in first class."
• Jackie Oshry (52:06): "And Dorit was like, you aren't willing to work on it. Think of all the shit I've put up with."

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This comprehensive summary encapsulates the key discussions, insights, and conclusions drawn by Jackie and Claudia Oshry in their episode focusing on The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills and various celebrity and cultural updates.

Transcript

[Claudia Oshry]

Good morning, millennials.

[Jackie Oshry]

Welcome back to the toast and happy hump day. Don't forget to hum someone you love. And speaking of people that I just have so much love for hard hands.

[Claudia Oshry]

Let's try it. Let's give it a shot.

[Jackie Oshry]

You and I are true soul mates. We will make a heart hand perfectly okay.

[Claudia Oshry]

But let's. Let's both align, like, around our shoulder.

[Jackie Oshry]

We can't cheat.

[Claudia Oshry]

Okay. Okay. I'm okay. We'll see what happens.

[Jackie Oshry]

I don't think I did it.

[Claudia Oshry]

One day we will get it, and that will be the end of the toast. Like, yeah.

[Jackie Oshry]

And there will be.

[Claudia Oshry]

Circle is complete.

[Jackie Oshry]

There will be a prompt. That's so wild. I'm gonna be like, if we get it Today, after like, 100 years, I'll be like, I'm shaving my head. And then that's the day we get it.

[Claudia Oshry]

It's like one of those boards. Zero days since a successful heart hand, like, every time we try it.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah, I guess. Okay, so it's Wednesday. It's hump day. It's a gargy party day. Jackson cleared, you know, in the studio getting lit. We have a big show today. Jackie and I on the ones and twos both watched the season premiere of the Real Housewives of Beverly Hills.

[Claudia Oshry]

That was just what I needed last night. It was like 7:45. I was sat ready for bed, thanks, daylight savings. And I wanted something to watch. And then I saw Dorit and Lala. I saw Lala Kent actually shout out to. Lala posted. She was on watch what happens live. And Dorit was there, and I was like, is tonight the night?

[Jackie Oshry]

I also found out that Beverly Hills was premiering. Like, what happened to commercials? Like, I literally found out because jury posted like, a picture and the caption was hashtag robe, hashtag tonight, or whatever. I was like, wait, what?

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah, so that was exciting. And then I also watched Watch what happens live.

[Jackie Oshry]

Random to have Lala on. No, I'm not complaining. I'm just. I thought that was, like, a weird.

[Claudia Oshry]

It was random. It was so amazing to see her. She looks unbelievable.

[Jackie Oshry]

So does Dorit. I'm loving, bro. Reit Brunette Dorit I.

[Claudia Oshry]

And also Brala. She was brunette last night.

[Jackie Oshry]

I also have taken a full season break from Beverly Hills. I didn't watch at all last season. So I came in with, like, kind of a refresh. I feel like every season I come in with, like, my biases from last season. I really came in very fresh, like, really hating new people and liking new people because I felt completely unburdened by what has been. So it was a refreshing take, and I don't feel like I missed much last season.

[Claudia Oshry]

No. Okay. I'm excited to hear who you're vibing with.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah. I think you'll be surprised.

[Claudia Oshry]

Like, for me, it's street and Erica.

[Jackie Oshry]

For me, it's street and Erica, too. And, like, kind of for the first time ever in my Housewives career, like, hating Kyle.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yes. Kyle's going through a lot. We'll. We'll talk about it. We have our fifth and final stories about housewives, and then we're gonna get into the recap. And then we have Dear Toasters. So, as La Tarte said, there's a lot to do today, and I just.

[Jackie Oshry]

Know after this episode, I'm going to feel so much louder. Like, oh, I saw such an interesting TikTok right before I started an interesting TikTok. So. And it was this girl being like, I need to get this message to Jackson Clird. And it was. And people make, like, tag me in those all the time. And it's like, I didn't really need to see the message, you know, like this one, like, brand new information. So it's about why John Mayer might have been at the Sabrina Carpenter show. Because it's weird. Okay. And this information might help. So you know who else was at the show? Danielle Fishel. She's the actress who plays Topanga from Boy Meets World. And she was on Girl Meets World, the spinoff that Sabrina.

[Claudia Oshry]

Sabrina got her start on. Girl Meets World.

[Jackie Oshry]

Exactly. Sabrina's big Disney breakout show. And I guess her and Danielle Fishel are super close. She was actually a bridesmaid. Danielle Fishel just got married, and Sabrina was a bridesmaid and a groomsman in that wedding was John Mayer. So they're clearly, like, connected, like family friends.

[Claudia Oshry]

Ish.

[Jackie Oshry]

I think that's probably, like, where they met, like, through the Fishels. And, like, maybe Topanga was coming and brought John.

[Claudia Oshry]

Let me tell you, I appreciate the knowledge of this connection. It's definitely good information. However, I still think his presence at the concert. She didn't bring the other groomsmen. She didn't bring her husband. She. He wasn't just going to support his friend's wife.

[Jackie Oshry]

It's true. It's true.

[Claudia Oshry]

Bridesmaid.

[Jackie Oshry]

Oh, my God. I had to. I have to say something, too. I just. I wanted to tell you that.

[Claudia Oshry]

So thank you. No, I'm glad to know it.

[Jackie Oshry]

Something I forgot to mention in the last couple of days when I was saying I'm having Like, aversions to different things, like food, but also, like, institutions, people, places, things. Gilmore Girls. Something I've really, sadly been having an aversion to is the kosher grocer. Like, I couldn't even.

[Claudia Oshry]

There's so many sights and smells.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah. I just. I don't know why. Maybe it's because I spent so much time there, like, right before that. The idea. Oh, my God. I just, like, I couldn't, I couldn't. And my friend Margot was like, cozy groceries today. I'm like, I can't. Like, I literally, I can't. Every time we needed stuff, I would send bed.

[Claudia Oshry]

Too many smells, no can do.

[Jackie Oshry]

Thing is, it's not even smelly actually at all. Even though they have, like a fish market. It was just the sheer concept of it. Like, I just. I can't explain these aversions. Like, and yesterday I actually went. Because I'm like, so sick of not having any real food in my house. All I eat is, like, chips. I'm like, I'm. I need to give some nutrients to this baby. Dr. Fox was like, are you having salmon once a week? I'm like, yeah, lol. I've had salmon twice, like, since I found out I'm pregnant. And it was in.

[Claudia Oshry]

That's a tall task too eat salmon, like.

[Jackie Oshry]

And by the way, the one day I. The one time I ate salmon twice, it was in one day, like, I was obviously feeling, like, fine. I'm like, let me just eat all the salmon. And so I'm like, back. You know, I made chicken meatballs. I was like, I'm really trying to, like, eat well. So I had to take my ass to the kosher grocer. It was totally fine. I was. I don't know what I was afraid of. It was actually quite porgy. So we're back.

[Claudia Oshry]

That's good. Well, speaking of the details of your pregnancy, you and I are sitting down today for Q and A. Like, Jack's on Claude.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah.

[Claudia Oshry]

Diane Jacks and Claude. It's Jackson. Claude, asking all of the questions about your pregnancy, your journey. We're getting questions from the Facebook group so everyone can sort of chime in. And we're going to get a 360 view of Turt and what the last three months have been like, what the last maybe more than three months have been like.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah.

[Claudia Oshry]

What the future looks like.

[Jackie Oshry]

And to be honest, I know this is, like, going to be a crazy thing. I really feel like I haven't talked about it that much. Like, I feel like we've Actually had such a busy week, like, with Kiki Palmer, and, like, I don't know. I actually feel like I haven't. There's so much I have to say.

[Claudia Oshry]

When you look at the questions, there are so many different, like, areas of this we haven't even covered yet. And that's just the thing about it. It's like, yeah, we've talked about it a lot, but there's so much to say. It's the biggest deal in the world.

[Jackie Oshry]

It's the biggest deal.

[Claudia Oshry]

It's the biggest thing you can do as a human being.

[Jackie Oshry]

I'm like, seriously, I walk these streets and I'm like, you guys don't even know what's going on inside my body.

[Claudia Oshry]

Like, superwoman, a super human.

[Jackie Oshry]

I have a message I have to deliver because I just, like, I saw, like, I actually walked through a cloud of, like, cigarette smoke today. And I just. Honestly, I can't believe, like, we're at a place where we're smoking cigarettes. Like, what are you, a thousand? Like, get an electric one. Like, you have to walk out of your building. She was, like, standing on the street and, like, it smelled so bad. Like, it actually almost killed me, let alone the secondhand smoke, you know, maybe.

[Claudia Oshry]

That person was inspired by real houses of Beverly Hills last night because cigarette stock is about to go through the roof. After that scene of Dorit driving through the canyon smoking a cigarette frantically on the day she announced her separation.

[Jackie Oshry]

Any cigarette, you know, connoisseurs know which brand that was. I feel like it was somewhat. She probably gets her cigarettes from Europe. Like, it was very long. It didn't look like any. It wasn't American spirit. Like, it didn't look like anything I'd ever seen before.

[Claudia Oshry]

I would think she's a Marlboro Light girl.

[Jackie Oshry]

She gives such Camel crush energy. Like, I can't. But. But it wasn't a Camel crush. I didn't see her crush it.

[Claudia Oshry]

I'm going to go Marlboro Light, but I feel like you're only going to be seeing and smelling more smoke ever since that scene. Like, I kind of want to have a cigarette now. Just like, in solidarity with Dorit.

[Jackie Oshry]

That's my favorite thing. And I feel like on Vanderpump Rules, they didn't shy away from it as much. Like, especially when they were all younger, they were all chain smoking in the back. A lot of the housewives smoke cigarettes. Like, and you see it once, and it's, like, shocking. But you don't know that they, like, have a habit. Like, I remember when they were in Dubai and the women finally turned for the first time on Lisa Vanderpump, she, like, ran back to her hotel room and sat on the balcony with Ken smoking cigarettes. And, like, she's British. Like, it's not a big deal. I'm sure she smokes all the time, but it was the first time seeing it. I remember being like, what is going on? She's smoking a cigarette. Like, it was. It's so shocking to see your fave smoking cigarettes. So many celebrities smoke cigarettes. Like, you just don't see it.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah. And it's. It's always fun to see.

[Jackie Oshry]

It's so fun to see. It's like. It's just. It's just different, you know, it's like seeing a teacher out of school.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah. And there's like, nothing, like, wrong or illegal about it, but it feels like they're doing something crazy. Especially in this day and age, It's. It's frowned upon.

[Jackie Oshry]

And I also imagine Dorit didn't know that that was going to be included because it was kind of just like B roll. She was driving. She wasn't talking to anyone.

[Claudia Oshry]

Like, she said on Watch what Happens Live, she was being chased by the paparazzi. So I think she was incredibly stressed. And she didn't care that there's, like, a camera in her car. Probably wouldn't be included. I'm going to have my cigarette. I don't care.

[Jackie Oshry]

And she's also Israeli. Like, Israelis love to smoke cigarettes. That's what I always forget about to read. Like, it's.

[Claudia Oshry]

When asked Andy asked her about it on Watch what Happens Live, and she wasn't like, oh, I just, like, had one. Like, I think she just smoked.

[Jackie Oshry]

No. If you have a pack in your car, like, you smoke.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah. No, she wasn't like, oh, my God. That was so crazy.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah. So embarrassed. It was just one time. No. Like, these women like to party. Like, they're smoking cigarettes.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah.

[Jackie Oshry]

I can't remember. I think on shots of sunset. Oh, my God. They always used to smoke cigarettes.

[Claudia Oshry]

They didn't.

[Jackie Oshry]

Like, they couldn't even hide it. They were smoking hookah. It was very cultural, you know? So they were doing cigarettes hookah. Vanderpump rules. They were always chain smoking.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah. Just a fun little additive.

[Jackie Oshry]

But irl, like, I'm not loving. I need people to stop smoking near me. Like, it's seriously disgusting. It can make me throw up.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah. That's rough. I'm sorry.

[Jackie Oshry]

It's rough. And it's also, like, not to make.

[Claudia Oshry]

Everything about Me, but like, secondhand smoke.

[Jackie Oshry]

It's very real.

[Claudia Oshry]

Third hand smoke in that direction.

[Jackie Oshry]

Correct.

[Claudia Oshry]

Well, I'm sorry you're going through that. It seems as though we all roads are, like, leading back to Beverly Hills. So I think we should get into the stories so that we can get into the. That we want to talk about.

[Jackie Oshry]

I guess. Yeah.

[Claudia Oshry]

Anything else that you would like to share with the class?

[Jackie Oshry]

I'm trying to think. Pregnancy brain. Yeah, No, I literally didn't do anything, like, worth sharing yesterday, except going to the kosher grocer and complained the entire day.

[Claudia Oshry]

Oh, I went to Home Depot and that was major.

[Jackie Oshry]

It's.

[Claudia Oshry]

I had a major experience at Home Depot and I like, tried to do all these things for my house. Like, I got, like, new lights for my vanity because there's one that's out. I bought three different kinds just to, like, make sure I got the right one. None of them were the right one. I got these, like, grips for my chairs so that they would stop sliding. They didn't fit. I'm done trying.

[Jackie Oshry]

I so echo your sentiment. I'm so sorry that happened to you. That's literally so real.

[Claudia Oshry]

However, all of that brought me to HomeGoods, where I found the most beautiful plates and bowls that I keep passing in my kitchen because I let them out to dry, I wash them, and they're sparking so much joy. So who cares how many light bulbs I had to buy that didn't work? I've got the plates of my dreams.

[Jackie Oshry]

There are just some household errands that, like, aren't for us. And going to Home Depot is not one of them. I have such a conflicted, complicated relationship with Home Depot because the Home Depots in the city are not stores, they're showrooms. So you, like, walk in, like, I need a faucet. Right. And so they'll show you because it's. You're limited on space. How big is your Home Depot takes up? Like, it was huge.

[Claudia Oshry]

And I was picking out a paint color. There are so many colors. And then they all come in five different, like, matte, sleek, whatever, And I gave the guy my pain, like, a bunch of different sizes and like, they literally, like, plug it in and like, something comes up from the basement.

[Jackie Oshry]

It's.

[Claudia Oshry]

And it's my paint job.

[Jackie Oshry]

It's as big as, like a football field. So we don't space for that in the city. So most Home Depots in the city are just showrooms where they have like, one of everything and then they can order it for you. Like, who the fuck? Like I came here to buy it. Like what order? What is this? Chanel?

[Claudia Oshry]

Can I tell you something that's going to make you like Home Depot that I read somewhere once.

[Jackie Oshry]

What?

[Claudia Oshry]

That like once a month, maybe like the first Saturday every month, something like that. They have free classes for kids where they learn like wood shop skills.

[Jackie Oshry]

Oh, that's cute. I thought you were going to say. Yeah, I thought you were going to say like something more charitable like I don't know, like veterans or something.

[Claudia Oshry]

Okay, yeah, that would be nice too. Maybe they have a veterans discount they're giving back to the children.

[Jackie Oshry]

No, it's sweet. It's sweet, it's sweet. I just like, I think you like, I think you like built like you hyped up like what you were going to say too much that I was expecting like they gave a billion dollars to, you know.

[Claudia Oshry]

No, but I feel like, I feel like everyone does that.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah. It's so true also because it's like.

[Claudia Oshry]

A tax write off. So it's like totally selfish. But this they're just giving back to the children and teach them how to build so that maybe one day someone can build a cabinet for me.

[Jackie Oshry]

Right, right. Maybe.

[Claudia Oshry]

Or put together.

[Jackie Oshry]

No, that's beautiful. I'm sorry, I didn't mean to like, you know, clown on.

[Claudia Oshry]

So like if you. Maybe you guys should go. I think like you have to be a certain age, but maybe take your kids. Like that's a really cute thing to do. Yeah, it's out at Home Depot.

[Jackie Oshry]

I don't think home. Home Depot is a place like for. For us. You know what I mean? In terms of like shopping. It's just the fact that you went bought a thousand things and everything on every single one of them was wrong. Like that tracks.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yes, but I had to go to pick out the paint color. No, like, that's not something I could have outsourced to Zach. So I. The returns he can do. I'm not going back there. But I got my paint color and I did what had to be done. And then I treated myself with a jaunt to Home Goods.

[Jackie Oshry]

Not a jaunt.

[Claudia Oshry]

It was a jaunt. And the girlies were out. You could not find parking.

[Jackie Oshry]

Oh my God. Parking is like, it's different in the city. Like especially. I don't really drive in the city. Ben doesn't. You have to parallel park everywhere, which is horrible. Like if you ever need a parking spot in the city, it is going to be a parallel park, which is hard. But like once you master it, like you can do it. Parking in those, like, spaces, like, at a big parking lot where there's, like, two cars between you. Like, I think that's worse. It's. There's so many people watching.

[Claudia Oshry]

When Margot was here, she said she knows how to parallel park, but she does not know how to park in a parking space. I only know how to park in a parking space.

[Jackie Oshry]

The wide turn. Like, it's just. It's so complicated. I find it. And I do have trauma because the one and only time I've ever been in any sort of Fender bender, when you were in the car singing Becky G's the shower, it was me pulling into a regular old parking spot at a key food. Like, that's where my trauma comes from. So I think I would rather parallel park in the city.

[Claudia Oshry]

That is hysterical. I mean, parking is pretty daunting. That's why I actually had a lesson, a solo lesson with my driving instructor after I got my license, where we only did parking. Yeah, we focused on parking for, like, an hour and a half, and I got the gist.

[Jackie Oshry]

And I think now we're at a place where you and I can admit that the reason I got in that Fender better was because you were playing music so loudly, taking Snapchat videos. Right.

[Claudia Oshry]

Well, you're supposed to be able to tune out your surroundings. I'm just like, a plant.

[Jackie Oshry]

I was there in high school or maybe college. Like, I was such a fresh driver. Like, you were just really being manic in the front seat, dancing in the mirror, singing in the shower. Like, really nutty.

[Claudia Oshry]

Can you help me? That song slaps so hard.

[Jackie Oshry]

You ruined that song for me, so thanks.

[Claudia Oshry]

You can't not dance. You can't not Snapchat.

[Jackie Oshry]

And I do often think about the woman that we sideswept being so cool about the whole situation. Like, she had this old school, like, Cadillac. She was loading groceries into her car, and, like, I sideswept her, and I was like, oh, my God, I'm so sorry. And I'd never been an accident before, but I know you have to, like, call the police, right? Like, insurance. And she seriously, like, wiped the side of her car with, like, a rag. And she was like, it's fine.

[Claudia Oshry]

To be honest, that would be me. Like, I don't. Like it's too inconvenient. I'll just take the dent for a year and. And then I'll deal with it.

[Jackie Oshry]

She was so real, and, like, she saved me. I would have gotten in so much trouble. I did end up getting in trouble because our car Had a dent, but, like, if I know.

[Claudia Oshry]

And it was a rental. And then, like, a month later, when we returned it, they were like, there's a dent in this car.

[Jackie Oshry]

And our mom was like, who?

[Claudia Oshry]

And I was.

[Jackie Oshry]

It wasn't even hard. None of the sisters knew how to drive except for me. Like, so I got in so much trouble because she was like, if you would have let me fix it before, it would have been so much cheaper than returning with a debt. And I have to pay, like, the hertz fee.

[Claudia Oshry]

The hertz fee.

[Jackie Oshry]

And honestly, I felt so bad. Like, it was. It was kind of. It plagued me, like, until we returned to the car. It kind of ruined my summer. And all thanks to you and Becky G. So thanks.

[Claudia Oshry]

Well, I'm glad that you have someone to blame it on so that you don't have to accept responsibility.

[Jackie Oshry]

And obviously, Ben wasn't with us or else it would be him.

[Claudia Oshry]

Now. I'm glad that he's joined the picture that, you know, leave space for us to just have a copacetic friendship.

[Jackie Oshry]

So true.

[Claudia Oshry]

Maybe he was texting you that day.

[Jackie Oshry]

Maybe. Okay, I think we could dive in. I agree.

[Claudia Oshry]

Now, without further ado to do, here are the fast five stories that you need to know.

[Jackie Oshry]

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[Claudia Oshry]

Mm.

[Jackie Oshry]

And I know.

[Claudia Oshry]

I know all about good neighbors.

[Jackie Oshry]

I know how close you are with your neighbors. So obviously you can attest to State Farm being there probably better than anyone.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah. No, it's akin to a great neighbor. State Farm is there.

[Jackie Oshry]

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[Claudia Oshry]

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[Claudia Oshry]

Where are they? There.

[Jackie Oshry]

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[Claudia Oshry]

Before we get into the story, it's just an update to a story from yesterday about Pete Davidson and Maria from the Bachelor.

[Jackie Oshry]

She NVM Control Z undo.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah, she said, never dated Pete. False rumor. I'm friends with his sister. Case closed. And then she said his sister said he's not in rehab and he's been sober for months. He's literally home.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah, I think that. Steve. Steve. Oh, my God. Pete Davidson often uses other people's social media to, like, get his messaging out there. And so I think that, like, she was talking to sister, Pete was like, tell her to post. He doesn't really utilize his own social media. And I have memories of, like, other comedians who he's friends with, like, him putting out statements on their social medias. And so, yeah, I actually feel like this is a verified report. Like, I believe it.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah, no, I believe it too. Like, where did this come from? I don't know. A part of me, like, does still want to believe that they went out a little bit, because I feel like they did.

[Jackie Oshry]

They're definitely, like, hooking up behind the sister's back.

[Claudia Oshry]

Sorry, I like ship.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah.

[Claudia Oshry]

Else to say.

[Jackie Oshry]

Our best friend's brother is the one for me. Bfp. Literally. Victoria.

[Claudia Oshry]

It's a classic tale. It's a classic tale of a best friend's brother. Our first story is some sad news. Big celeb news of the day, which is that the One Direction members emotionally reunited at Liam Payne's funeral in the uk. So Liam Payne's funeral was held in the uk, and the former One Direction bandmates were amongst the mourners at his funeral on Wednesday. Harry, Zayn, Niall, and Louis all came together for the first time in nearly nine years to pay their respects to the late singer. They joined Liam's closest friends and family outside of London. And as he was laid to rest one month after his fatal fall, Simon Cowell and his fiance were there as well. The mourners were photographed.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah.

[Claudia Oshry]

Outside looking in.

[Jackie Oshry]

I also saw a video of them in what appears to be a cemetery, like, at the actual gravesite. Now, of course, not to make everything about me, but my first thought was Dennis's funeral. Yeah. Like, it's so wrong. And the UK is even worse. Right? Like, when it comes to. They're notorious, the tabloids, for really always crossing the line. And, like, this is just something, like, I will never get on board with. And, yeah, I was like, oh, cool. Nice to see all the guys together. Like, honestly, I wish I didn't see it. Like, it's so awful.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah.

[Jackie Oshry]

And I feel like the only. Like, I'm trying to think of recently because I remember Matthew Perry's funeral. There was one, like, drone shot of, like, the six cast members walking into the funeral, like, into the church. And honestly, like, as much as I wish they would have left them alone like that, to me, that was fine. Like, okay.

[Claudia Oshry]

Like, that's so crazy, though, to put a drone at a funeral. But then also, this feels crazy because it's like, we're seeing pictures pretty close up of the members, so that means there's, like, paparazzi in their face as they're walking. And I didn't see the video of the gravesite. That's really horrible. But as they're walking, even from the car into the church or wherever it was held, they're being, like, mobbed.

[Jackie Oshry]

It's just. It really indicates a moral depravity in our culture. Like, I'm sorry to just talk about this, but it bothers me so much. And you can tell they were all really aware in the video that I saw. Aware of where this person was standing. They totally saw them physically standing there because they really did all they could to, like, just give their back to the. The camera. Like, you didn't get a lot of face. James Corden was there, too.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah.

[Jackie Oshry]

And his fiance or girlfriend, obviously. Kate.

[Claudia Oshry]

James Corden.

[Jackie Oshry]

No, I'm sorry.

[Claudia Oshry]

I thought it was married and she has an egg allergy.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Balthazar.

[Claudia Oshry]

Liam's girlfriend.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah, yeah.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yes. Sorry.

[Jackie Oshry]

That was, like, a bad way of phrasing it. My bad, my bad.

[Claudia Oshry]

No, it's okay. Maybe it was just a comma that we couldn't see.

[Jackie Oshry]

I think we're all commas that we just couldn't say.

[Claudia Oshry]

I feel like, comma should be, like, a. A word in, like, a verb. A spoken word.

[Jackie Oshry]

Orated.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah.

[Jackie Oshry]

Comma.

[Claudia Oshry]

I agree.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah, they are some people also. And I'm looping myself in. Like, don't know how to talk. Like, in terms of how to pace your sentences and, like, when to pause and. And con. Like, punctuation is verbal. It's a part of your mannerisms and, you know, intonation. And some people, myself included, like, just skip right by it. I just swallow little sentences.

[Claudia Oshry]

We've even started saying, like, period, to let you know.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yes. Do I think do with comma, next what we did with period.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah, I think it would be really helpful. But I also think, as more people do, like, talk to text, like, maybe the next generation will be speaking like that, because you have to let them know when you're doing a comma, question mark.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah. And, yeah, it's true. Like, the way I send. Sometimes I'll be sending someone a voice memo, and I think that I'm doing dictation, so I'll be like, how are you doing? Question mark?

[Claudia Oshry]

The way my voice memos are so Formal, because it's hard for me to toggle between talk to text and voice memo. So I'm like, very slow, like. And then I remember which one I'm doing. Like, I. I try to, like, inject a little personality.

[Jackie Oshry]

Totally. He.

[Claudia Oshry]

Anyways. Sad. Sad.

[Jackie Oshry]

So sad. And you know what? Things like this always remind me, like, how in our culture, like, most of the funerals I've ever been to in Judaism, it's like, mandatory that you bury the person the day after they died. Now, of course, like, extenuating circumstances, maybe you can get an extra day. But it's so crazy to me that, like, you know, when were we talking? When did he pass away?

[Claudia Oshry]

This is a month ago.

[Jackie Oshry]

Right. Like, it's so different than what I'm accustomed to. I, like, had almost forgotten that we hadn't had a funeral yet.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah.

[Jackie Oshry]

So that's just like a weird thing for me. Again, not to make everything about me. Sorry.

[Claudia Oshry]

Right. No, it's different.

[Jackie Oshry]

It's different. And I just, like, this was like, a reminder of that.

[Claudia Oshry]

Right. Are you ready for our next story? It's some fun almost casting news.

[Jackie Oshry]

I love fun almost casting news.

[Claudia Oshry]

Second, and it's actually very pertinent to the situation. So Wicked nearly had a different director and stars. It nearly starred Lady Gaga as Elphaba and Shawn Mendes as Bach.

[Jackie Oshry]

So I don't like that.

[Claudia Oshry]

And the director was going to be Stephen Daldry, who did the crown. So at one point he was tapped to do the project and he was. Had Lady Gaga in mind to play Elphaba, and Shawn Mendes would play Bach, who eventually is played by Jonathan Bailey.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah.

[Claudia Oshry]

But then this whole concept fell through and then John M. Chu took over and that's.

[Jackie Oshry]

So I do not like the vision you just described. Mostly because I think. And I think Ari's the perfect one to do it. Like, I like that everybody in this adaptation is like a classically trained Broadway singer. Like, Jonathan Bailey has a huge background in theater. Cynthia Rivio obviously does. Like, it's a musical. It's from the theater. It's a theater, a play adaptation. Like, while I love Lady Gaga and Sean Mendez, like, they are pop stars by trade. And yes, Lady Gaga has a lot of acting experience, but, like, I don't know. I don't think. I don't think I'm more against Shawn Mendes being in this. Like, I don't even know. I don't think he's ever even acted, period. Then I am Lady Gaga. She's like a chameleon and she can do anything. But I think, like, a sprinkle of Ariana Grande, who's, like, an actual pop star, is perfect for Glinda. But the integrity of the entire play, I feel, remained intact, given the fact, like, even Ethan Slater, like, everyone they tapped, was from the theater world.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah. Also, I haven't listened to the whole soundtrack, but it seems like they're really sticking to the notes of the original songs where, like, Lady Gaga does not know how to do that.

[Jackie Oshry]

She's such an individual.

[Claudia Oshry]

She can't even do the Star Spangled Banner without, like, putting her Lady Gaga spin on it, which we love. But for this, I want to hear the songs as they were written and not, like, her version of it just yet.

[Jackie Oshry]

I also. What I thought you were going to make is a story is they had recently released people who had auditioned for Wicked, and I saw some names on there that I was really surprised by. Amanda Seyfried went out for Glinda. I always forget that she sings that because I never saw Mamma Mia.

[Claudia Oshry]

Oh, I. I forgot. I didn't know that she sang. I didn't forget. I never knew that.

[Jackie Oshry]

You're gonna love this and you're gonna, like, you're gonna be sad at what you missed because I believe she made it pretty far as Glinda Dove Cameron.

[Claudia Oshry]

Oh, she would have been amazing.

[Jackie Oshry]

Renee Rapp had also auditioned for Glinda. She shared that on Watch what Happens Live, although I don't think that would have been the right role for her.

[Claudia Oshry]

Agreed. And even though Dove Cameron would have been amazing, I wouldn't change, like, a hair on Ari's head. I think she's perfect for it. I was watching an interview of hers from, like, years ago. I'm sure you've seen it's, like, making the rounds where she's talking about, like, her dream role is to do Wicked on Broadway, movie, whatever. Her dream was to be Alphabet. And she has talked about how when the auditions came around, she was ready for either character. She was knew she was going to be asked to do both, and she wound up getting Glinda. But, like, this has been Ari's dream. Like, for. This is the month of dreams realized. Like, just like us having Kiki on the toast. Like, right. Needed to be in Wicked.

[Jackie Oshry]

Do you know who went out for Fiero?

[Claudia Oshry]

Fiero. Who?

[Jackie Oshry]

Both Nick and Joe Jonas.

[Claudia Oshry]

That's really crazy.

[Jackie Oshry]

I want to say. I actually think Nick would have done a good job because, like, Fiero is, like, kind of annoying and, like, show off, which is so Nick.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah. If you auditioned and you, like, made it kind of far, but you didn't get the part. Like, would you want people to know that you, like, didn't get it?

[Jackie Oshry]

It's a really good question. Yeah. Because I feel like even the most successful people have, like, failed auditions and they become, like, famous stories. It doesn't mean that you're not talented. It really just means, like, you weren't right for the role. Yeah.

[Claudia Oshry]

And also, sometimes it's like the timing doesn't work out. Lady Gaga went on to do the Joker 2 instead of this. That's what she did with her past.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah.

[Claudia Oshry]

Years.

[Jackie Oshry]

This article is also interesting there because it's. There is a lot of information about who tried out for a lot of roles, but there's very limited information on who tried out for Elphaba. Maybe John Chu, like, knew it was going to be Cynthia Erivo. But it is alleged that Lea Michele did try out. She would have been great.

[Claudia Oshry]

She would have been amazing.

[Jackie Oshry]

She probably did try out another. And these are. These are unverified, the Alphabet ones. Ariana DeBose. Angela Bassett did the thing. Anna Kendrick. No.

[Claudia Oshry]

She's really talented and, like, so great for so many things. But she doesn't have, like. She's not what I associate with Elphaba.

[Jackie Oshry]

And you're gonna love this one because in your adaptation, it would have been Glinda as Dove, Cameron and Elphaba as Jesse.

[Claudia Oshry]

Jesse J. Yeah. Jessie J would have been amazing.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah. So I love, like, almost because you really. And I haven't seen the movie yet, but I imagine it's perfect. Like, I'm. Some reviews have come in. There's.

[Claudia Oshry]

It looks perfect.

[Jackie Oshry]

They didn't do anything controversial. They didn't change. Like, it looks like exactly what you want it to be. So I'm imagining I'm just gonna, like, operate under the assumption that it's a great movie and that I'm gonna love it. So I. I love almost casting news, but I am not mad about anyone they cast. Honestly, I think Jonathan Bailey was perfect. I love. We didn't even talk about how Jeff Goldblum is Oz. I think that's great. He has such a recognizable, like, powerful, booming voice. Like, I have seriously no complaints. I think they actually crushed it. And I always think that, like, casting is bad. Like, I always have notes.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah. Also, we haven't seen it yet.

[Jackie Oshry]

Oh, of course, of course. But like I said, I'm operating under these.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah.

[Jackie Oshry]

I can't believe there's going to be a second one next year. I will be fatigued. By that, I'm just putting it out there.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah. Unless it's so amazing. All you would want is more like, I would like a Greatest Showman sequel. Imagine that was coming out the year after I saw Greatest Showman.

[Jackie Oshry]

Imagine that.

[Claudia Oshry]

Hugh Jackman should have been in it. I'd like to see him up there shaking that thing.

[Jackie Oshry]

Who would he have been? I feel like the only age appropriate role is Oz. There was actually a Wicked theme category on Jeopardy. Two nights ago.

[Claudia Oshry]

And how did you fare?

[Jackie Oshry]

I got all but one right. When One. The one that I didn't get right was like, not even a hard. Like a big money one. It was just a dumb question.

[Claudia Oshry]

Was it, which hat should you wear to the party tonight?

[Jackie Oshry]

Yes, that's exactly what it was. No, it was like, what type of we want? It was John Chu. He delivered the thing and he was like, when I want to be this movie, I wanted, you know, people to feel like they've entered the Emerald City, giving them this type of movie experience.

[Claudia Oshry]

Wizard of Oz.

[Jackie Oshry]

No, it's like, I guess a type of movie immersive. I never even heard of that.

[Claudia Oshry]

Oh, that's just an adjective. Yeah.

[Jackie Oshry]

It was a bad question.

[Claudia Oshry]

Also, it could have been like, it wanted to be a movie that felt like a real movie.

[Jackie Oshry]

The other ones that I would have.

[Claudia Oshry]

Been a correct answer.

[Jackie Oshry]

Aria. What are Glinda's like, first words to Elphaba? Two words. You're green.

[Claudia Oshry]

You knew that.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah, I did.

[Claudia Oshry]

It's in the trailer.

[Jackie Oshry]

It's in the trailer. It was a good category. I liked it, actually. I feel like Jeopardy. Has been, like, really tailored towards me because me and Ben watch every night and, like, we count. I usually get like four, maybe five. Right. Last night I got 20. Right. Because there was a category for Billboard Music Awards where they were like, talking about people and then they showed a clip of them. So they're like, who's this? And it was Mariah Carey, the Jonas Brothers. Like, I was like, is this supposed to be hard?

[Claudia Oshry]

I feel like Jeopardy. Sort of losing it standing.

[Jackie Oshry]

And then another category was also the.

[Claudia Oshry]

Fact that a vertical can be bought by Wicked.

[Jackie Oshry]

I know a lot of people were impressed by that. Like, that they have done sponsored categories before, and as long as it doesn't affect the integrity of the questions, I think it's fine. I didn't think the questions were amazing.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah.

[Jackie Oshry]

And then they cut to Ken Jennings and he was like, after the category was finished, and he was like, wicked in theaters January. Whatever. It was a little tacky. Can sell out yeah, listen, Ken just does what he gets told. He doesn't want to get in trouble.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah, yeah, no, they're doing fun things. I actually. They should have sponsored an episode of the Toast where they made you dress up as Elphaba. Me dress up as Glinda. And we could, like, sing the whole time. And I could keep asking you to wear this hat to the party tonight.

[Jackie Oshry]

Why would they pay us when we actually do that for free?

[Claudia Oshry]

Like, no, but, like, we could have dressed up.

[Jackie Oshry]

Oh, my God.

[Claudia Oshry]

And you have your green background. I have my pink background. Oh, my God.

[Jackie Oshry]

Wait. We are so wicked coded. I didn't even realize that.

[Claudia Oshry]

So wicked coded. Missed marketing opportunity. Maybe for the sequel.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah, maybe they'll have enough budget for us next year.

[Claudia Oshry]

That would be really cute. Like, now I just want to do it for free. Yeah, but it would be better for your getting paid. So you're not like, sitting here in, like, a big ball gown with green.

[Jackie Oshry]

Paint on my face. Yeah.

[Claudia Oshry]

Are you ready for our next story? A little love news.

[Jackie Oshry]

Who's in love besides me with you?

[Claudia Oshry]

Oh, Ty. Me with you. No. Jay Cutler is engaged to Samantha Robertson two years after his divorce.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yes. It's only been two years. I guess maybe two years since they legally, by the way.

[Claudia Oshry]

No, they split up in 2020. They were the first to crack during the pandemic.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah, but it probably took them two years to legally get divorced.

[Claudia Oshry]

For sure. But they've been apart for four years.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah, no, that's a misleading.

[Claudia Oshry]

Plus, I'm glad we called that out because I would have just accepted that and forgotten.

[Jackie Oshry]

I'm kind of on a fact finding mission these days. It's the Jeopardy's influence on me.

[Claudia Oshry]

Multiple sources close to the couple have told People magazine that the two of them have taken the next step in their relationship. She was seen actually rocking a ring on her finger at the Yellowstone season 5B premiere. So that settles that.

[Jackie Oshry]

Why was she at Yellowstone? Is she in Yellowstone? Who is this person?

[Claudia Oshry]

Oh, so she is a lady. She's a mother of two.

[Jackie Oshry]

She's a lady.

[Claudia Oshry]

Like, she's just, like, a beautiful woman. She was married to an actor before.

[Jackie Oshry]

Mm. She's very pretty.

[Claudia Oshry]

But I think he probably was invited to the. Like, they went to the premiere together and she was wearing a ring on her finger.

[Jackie Oshry]

She's very pretty.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah, she's just a beautiful woman. Amongst other things, I'm sure.

[Jackie Oshry]

Like, nobody lied to her. Yeah.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah.

[Jackie Oshry]

And you're saying she was qualified to own those shoes?

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah. Just like in every picture of her Here she is at the premiere with, like, Bethany and Jay, and she just, like, she just has that. She's got Riz, as I think they say.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yes. She was married to Trace Ayala. He's an actor and close friend of Justin Timberlake, according to People magazine.

[Claudia Oshry]

Interesting.

[Jackie Oshry]

And it seems like they are, you know, co parenting.

[Claudia Oshry]

Well, she shares two daughters.

[Jackie Oshry]

Did he die? No, she said shared a tribute. Oh, yeah. Okay. Sorry, Sorry. Tribute makes it seem like somebody died. Yeah. He's live, and they have kids together. They seem to get along well. That's nice.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah. So they'll have, like, a blended family.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah. I. I like Jay Cutler. I worry for him. You know, he did have that DUI and that we just, like, sort of never heard anything about it.

[Claudia Oshry]

That was literally yesterday, too. Maybe he was celebrating his engagement.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yikes. Yeah, it was definitely, like, gave me pause.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah.

[Jackie Oshry]

Oh, and I did watch that Kristen Cavallari TikTok.

[Claudia Oshry]

How funny.

[Jackie Oshry]

Very funny. And full of tea.

[Claudia Oshry]

Full of tea. So real.

[Jackie Oshry]

So real. She's so pretty. And that neighborhood they were running around like, gotta buy a house there was so nice.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah, go.

[Jackie Oshry]

That's what. That's my favorite part of that TikTok trend is people, like, run outside in their neighborhoods, and it's just, like, nice to see where. Where the other half lives, you know?

[Claudia Oshry]

Totally. Anyways, mazel to J. Yeah, that's. I hope that Samantha and Kristen get along well.

[Jackie Oshry]

And also, do you think Kristen's, like, easy to get along with in that type of situation or. She makes it difficult. I could see her being, like, a little Meredith Blake.

[Claudia Oshry]

I don't think she makes it difficult, but I think she's, like, pretty exacting. And she's also, like, lest we not forget, original. Like, the original cool girl. Like, she doesn't want to hang out with some loser.

[Jackie Oshry]

Wow.

[Claudia Oshry]

If someone can, like. If someone could, like, match her, I think she would be happy to welcome them in.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah. Because they. They do. Their kids are young. Like, they. They are going to be involved in each other's lives. It's not like the kids are off at college and you never have to see the. The new wife. You do.

[Claudia Oshry]

But I think, like, these two have potential for getting along because she seems, I don't know, Samantha Robertson, but she.

[Jackie Oshry]

Seems like a real one based on her Instagram. She get. She gives good vibes, and, you know, that's really half the battle.

[Claudia Oshry]

I mean, it is. Some people can't even do that.

[Jackie Oshry]

So true.

[Claudia Oshry]

Are you ready for it? Are you ready for our fourth story? Which is kind of taking the world by storm.

[Jackie Oshry]

I am.

[Claudia Oshry]

It's some aviation food news.

[Jackie Oshry]

Okay, it's a little misleading.

[Claudia Oshry]

Delta flights will be serving Shake Shack burgers in first class. So asterisk. Delta Airlines has announced a partnership to serve Shake Shack burgers on long haul flights to a lucky moneyed few. That's right. An all beef cheeseburger with Shake Shack special sauce will be available to you as long as you're flying first class.

[Jackie Oshry]

And as long as you're flying one specific route.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah. It will only be available on flights longer than 900 miles departing Boston.

[Jackie Oshry]

Right. Okay, so thanks. Like, this was just kind of like big headline news, and then you, for lack of a better word, you read it and it's a nothing burger, not a Shake Shack burger. Um, so to all Those flying over 900 miles from Boston, Logan Airport, enjoy.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah, no, it could be this star. Something new. But also, it's like, so funny to me how it's like, first class is meant to be luxury, and this is. And we're excited about it. Like, you could also probably pick up a Shake Shack in the airport and bring it to your coach seat.

[Jackie Oshry]

You actually can. At jfk, there's two Shake Shacks in the big Delta terminal, and pretty much everyone boards a flight with a big old bag of Shake Shack. But you do have to arrive, like 30 minutes early. It's the slowest place on the planet. Like, literally one time I got a soda over there, like, it never fucking came.

[Claudia Oshry]

So I get this lets you jump the line and, like, have it served to you on your flight. But, like, I feel like airlines really have pulled one over on us. If, like, we're supposed to think that, like, this is the epitome of luxury.

[Jackie Oshry]

We are being bamboozled into thinking like, that this is cool and luxury, and it's literally not.

[Claudia Oshry]

They just got like, Shake Shack delivery.

[Jackie Oshry]

What they should be doing is, like, partnering with, like, Jean Georges.

[Claudia Oshry]

Right?

[Jackie Oshry]

Like, that's first class. And please, I just want to say, like, I'm not looking for a Jean George meal in first class. Like, I'm more so looking for a Shake Shack, but conceptually this makes no sense.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah, no, it's like, it's not giving what they think it's giving, but I feel like other people are like, oh, my God. Sweet, sick. Like, this is awesome. But I'm just like, you guys just go down the terminal, there's a Shake Shack.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah, let me buy a fifteen hundred dollar ticket for a $4 hamburger. I mean, actually, it's probably in this economy. Not a four dollar hamburger, but you know what I mean?

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah.

[Jackie Oshry]

So. Oh, and you can. It's not special. You can literally get it five minutes before your flight. And I'm sure at the Boston airport, which is why they have this service. I'm sure they have a Shake Shack, because I know they have, by the way.

[Claudia Oshry]

There's better. They're better. So it's fresh.

[Jackie Oshry]

They definitely have. Like, there already is a preexisting Delta Shake Shack Q Lab because it's in the terminals. The Delta terminals. So this is just like the logical next step. But it's literally one route in one city. And it's fast food, like, and fast.

[Claudia Oshry]

Food that anyone on the plane can access right before their flight.

[Jackie Oshry]

But this is truly emblematic of, like, the consumer, the consumer's relationship with the airlines. Like, we beg for scraps and we are so grateful for the shit that they give us. Now, I'm not saying Shake Shack is shit. Like, no, what I'm saying, but it is fast food.

[Claudia Oshry]

No, that we're meant to rejoice over this and that.

[Jackie Oshry]

Look how they've tricked us. Like, we're all like, yay, yay, yay. When, like, seriously, why don't you just treat us like human beings first? Like, keep your hamburger. Why don't you, like, give us three inches for our knees in coach? Like, I'm just. They've really. It's actually a psychological experiment what they've pulled on us.

[Claudia Oshry]

No. And it's so crazy how now when you buy a ticket and you're like, okay, I just want to see. Like, I'm just going from, like, A to B. Like, you buy your ticket, but then you have to, like, pay for your seat. Even if it's.

[Jackie Oshry]

Pay for your seat, pay for your bag, pay for your drink.

[Claudia Oshry]

Even if it's like, in economy, I guess. Unless you want to be like, in the middle seat in the bathroom row, that seat is free. But all the other seats, like, you have to pay for your seat.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah. There's they now. Like, they've literally tricked us. It's like, there's a baseline fare.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah.

[Jackie Oshry]

And then there's the cost of your seat. Like, excuse me. It's really crazy.

[Claudia Oshry]

What am I.

[Jackie Oshry]

So what's the fair?

[Claudia Oshry]

What is the fair? You could do fare without seat selection. And then, like, it's just up to.

[Jackie Oshry]

If you do fair without seat selection, you're one of the people who gets bumped off. Like, they have another air. They have another flight attendant who needs a seat. A Jumper seat. Bye. Bump, bump to next Thursday. You'll get home. It's really insane.

[Claudia Oshry]

They. They need to be put in check. Yeah.

[Jackie Oshry]

And we need to stop rejoicing at news like this because, like, they won. Look at us.

[Claudia Oshry]

Not. They didn't win it over the toast, though.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah.

[Claudia Oshry]

And by the way, we're Delta loyalists.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah. And that's mostly because we can't even have Shake Shack because it's on kosher.

[Claudia Oshry]

Right. I didn't see a veg. The veggie burger option.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah. They do have a mushroom burger that people actually really like.

[Claudia Oshry]

I've had it.

[Jackie Oshry]

It didn't seem like it was an option, though.

[Claudia Oshry]

No, it wasn't. All beef, all the time. Thank your local cattle rancher.

[Jackie Oshry]

And you know it's not local. It's totally from Brazil.

[Claudia Oshry]

And you know they're not thanking their rancher.

[Jackie Oshry]

No.

[Claudia Oshry]

Even the Brazilian one.

[Jackie Oshry]

Disgusting.

[Claudia Oshry]

Are you ready for our fifth and final story that will lead into our TV recap?

[Jackie Oshry]

If it's our fifth and final story that will lead into our TV recap that is brought to you by Wayfair. Per chance.

[Claudia Oshry]

Per chance it is. Oh, my gosh. My week is brought to you by Wayfair. I just got a cabinet on Wayfair for my bathroom. So excited about.

[Jackie Oshry]

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[Claudia Oshry]

Yes. Specific specs. I needed it big. I wanted a certain amount of draw space. They had literally every option available to me.

[Jackie Oshry]

It almost feels like customizable how many options they have.

[Claudia Oshry]

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[Jackie Oshry]

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[Claudia Oshry]

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[Jackie Oshry]

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[Claudia Oshry]

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[Jackie Oshry]

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[Claudia Oshry]

Let's do it.

[Jackie Oshry]

Turdy what if we just did it.

[Claudia Oshry]

Let's do the fifth story, which is that Real Housewives of Beverly Hills star Sutton Strack is claiming that Kyle Richards tried to hook up with Kevin Costner in Aspen. So on last night's episode of Rehobo after show, Sutton was on with Garcelle and Jennifer Tilly, who was on last night's episode, and she told this story about how Kyle tried to hook up with Kevin Costner while they were in Aspen. At the same time. She said, kyle and I have this conversation. She was in Aspen and Kevin Costner was there, and she was, like, trying to hook up with Kevin Costner. The trio had been discussing Kyle's rumored romance with country singer Morgan Wade, who has long been the center of romance gossip with Kyle. She said, but you want. Garcelle said, but you want Kevin Costner. And Sutton added, I know. So Sutton said this. That this is what I'm saying. I don't think that Morgan's the end all be all, because Kyle really wants. It's not all about Morgan. There's some Kevin Costner mixed in there.

[Jackie Oshry]

Okay, Fun. Like, the housewives love Kevin Costner, which I totally make sense. Luanna Costner, Kyle Costner, love it. I would I ship him with any of these there.

[Claudia Oshry]

Glenn Powell.

[Jackie Oshry]

It's so true. And I love that they're all, like, consistently chasing after him. So I love that Real Houses of Beverly Hills last night was, like, so refreshing for me. I had taken a break from the show, and I feel good about the fact that I feel like nothing happened last season. Like, I really don't feel like I missed much. And I came in, like, I didn't really have many questions. The only thing is, who is Merce?

[Claudia Oshry]

Oh, Merce. Oh, my God. So he. This is, like, mercy dog? No, he is, like, a legendary choreographer and dancer. Like, huge in the dance community. He was Sutton's, like, mentor when she moved to New York after college. She worked for Mercenarian. Like, that's where she started her career. And even Erica was like, merce is a legend. Like, everybody knows Merce and Merce had passed, and they went to Spain to scatter Merce's ashes. And Sutton brought them with her because she was, like, charged with doing that. And she, like, brought Merce, like, the dinner table and. And in her purse. And Erica was like, mercer's in the purse. Then when she went to scatter his ashes, of course they blew back on all the women. So Merce has just been, like, a big figure. One in his life. And two now on Beverly Hills.

[Jackie Oshry]

Funny. Okay, thank you. I literally thought Merce was a dog because that's so something the housewives would do, like take their dog's ashes.

[Claudia Oshry]

I mean, that's literally what Sonia did. And then it blew back on everyone.

[Jackie Oshry]

Now, I was really shocked when Garcelle put into perspective that now that Dorit is not married, that none of the women in the group are married. And I feel like that's actually a really bad sign for a franchise because it reminds me a lot of the downfall of the Real Housewives of New York. And also very interesting that they premiered Beverly Hills right before New York. Like, they're really desperately trying to offload.

[Claudia Oshry]

Oh, my God. They try desperately. I actually had to leave New York on so I wouldn't miss Watch what happens live because. Watch what happens. I wasn't even on the TV Guide. It said Real Housewives of New York. But then I'm like, looking at Lala's Instagram. They said 10:15. So I left on what Real Housewives of New York. I watched against my will in order to watch Watch what Happens live. So do not count that rating. Nielsen. I didn't want.

[Jackie Oshry]

They are doing everything they can to try and get ratings for Real Housewives of New York. Like, nobody's watching it, and it is. It is large. Like, people hate it. So I just thought that was interesting. But I feel like it's not a good sign for a franchise when none of the women are married. Not that you need to be married to be valid, but I just think that, like, Beverly Hills had always had, like, a good mix of single women, but also really strong institutional marriages. And it just reminds me a lot of New York where, like, one by one, they slowly all got divorced. And then it was this cast of, like, single women just, like, kind of being nuts and drinking too much and not really being good housewives.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah, I agree with that. But I don't think that they're there yet. Especially.

[Jackie Oshry]

No, no, no.

[Claudia Oshry]

Dorit and Kyle are still separated, so, like, it's still ongoing and, like, their marital affairs are storylines. Kathy is married. She's not a full time housewife. But I feel like, yes, it is really crazy because at one point, new.

[Jackie Oshry]

Housewife Bose is married.

[Claudia Oshry]

No, she's widowed.

[Jackie Oshry]

Oh, God. Yeah. Sorry. Oh, my God.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah. So I. I agree. That's really crazy. I guess we'll start with, like, Dorit and pk because we had reported, like, back in the spring when they separated, but I completely forgot. And when she completely forgot, when she told Erica, like, it Was as if I heard it for the first time. And then I was like, oh yeah, you guys.

[Jackie Oshry]

I texted Jackie. I'm like, did we know this information? I completely forgot they made that statement. And then nothing had, like they just radio silent.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah. The way that Dorit is like approaching it, I think she's like obviously being really strong, really like level headed and like stable for her children. But like she's being so matter of fact, I feel like I have no idea what's actually going on.

[Jackie Oshry]

Well, I think it's PK's choice to separate. That was the vibe that I got, which I was shocked by.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah. So it's like he got sober and then realized all of their issues in their marriage. All their issues in the marriage are still there. Like, yes, they were improved by his sobriety, but they're very real and they're very much there. And.

[Jackie Oshry]

And Dorit's like, okay, well, you aren't willing to work on it. Think of all the shit I've put up with. Your dui, your bankruptcy, your gambling debts. Like, she's so real for that. First of all, like, now you see things clearly and you're out. Excuse me. I've been seeing them clearly the whole time and I've stuck by you.

[Claudia Oshry]

Right?

[Jackie Oshry]

No, I agree with her.

[Claudia Oshry]

I agree with her too. Right now there's loving.

[Jackie Oshry]

I don't know if Erica was like this last season, but she's so tempered and she's so. She gives good advice to everyone without taking a side. Like, she's a good friend. She looked amazing.

[Claudia Oshry]

No, she was like this last season. I fell in love with Erica last season, like, and her journey and last season was really about like, her like coming back to herself and she was getting out of the woods on some of this legal stuff. And then that's why I watched bed at all on Blonde because I really just like, I'm so here for her comeback. She is like, the way that she's actually like overly patient with the women now and like overly forgiving when like back in the day, like, you crossed. But I guess you can't stay on the show if you're really going to write off everyone who like didn't completely have your back. No, she's such a pleasure to watch and I'm so happy for her.

[Jackie Oshry]

I agree. She's so mature. It's like a level headedness that we don't often see on any franchise. So I was really. I embrace it. I loved it, but I'm just like having this thing with Kyle. I Feel conflicted, obviously, because. And last night, before the episode was on, they were playing the most recent reunion, part three. And I watched like the last 20 minutes when Andy was really grilling her about Morgan Wade. And she gave us nothing. She was like, on the verge of tears the whole time. She. I don't know. I don't know. We got no nothing. And I feel conflicted because obviously, like, this is somebody who's going through some sort of sexual awakening. And being peppered with questions on reality TV is like, the worst thing for that. Everybody's entitled to their privacy and entitled to come to this on their own terms. But Kyle's the star of a reality show, multiple reality shows. She's, you know, notoriously questioned other people when they were going through things. So it's like she's not being afforded the. She's given the same grace that she's been giving other people, which is. Isn't a lot. And I feel conflicted because I'm like, girl, take your time. It's nobody's business. But also, you were out here shoving Denise Richards out of the closet. Like, I feel like I actually don't feel bad for even though I know I should. And it's just like, she's in the worst type of environment for what she's dealing with. Even, like this conversation she had with Garcelle, she's like, I'm gonna have it with all the ladies, and I'll have it with you first because I feel safe with you. It was clear she had something to say. She couldn't even get it out. Like, what are you talking about?

[Claudia Oshry]

I think what she was saying is she's like, pretty much like, begging Garcelle to not bring it up. Like, and she was like, quivering and like, she couldn't even get it out. And she's so emotional, but basically, like, she's figuring all of this out. She knows that. That those are the rules. Like, we bring up stuff. But she's like, begging her not to because she hasn't figured out for herself. Like, she has grown children, but like mid grown, where it's like they watch a show and they know, but like, like they're still her babies. So I think she's just like, so scared. But also I felt like last season like Kyle is a different person. Not just because she doesn't drink, because she works out and she hangs out with Morgan Wade. Like, her personality and even the way that she speaks has really changed. And even more so this season where she's like, I don't know, just not that, like, confident. Yeah, Tim. Like, she just used to be head in charge and now it's. It's not like that. So it's kind of, like, sad to see. While also, like, she is discovering herself and she wanted this separation with Mo. I'm sure there's more to the story, but, like, it wasn't like she was begging him to stay. So it is confusing. But also because she is confused.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah. And it's just. It's. It's a frustrating thing to watch because I'm just looking for clarity and she doesn't have that.

[Claudia Oshry]

So I think that's what I got from her conversation with Garcelle is like, please, like, I'm not doing okay. Like, please don't go hard on me. Because that's what garcelle does.

[Jackie Oshry]

And that's why, I guess she's so mad at dorit for bringing up that random text message. Like, that's what they do on these shows. You share a text message. Like, it wasn't that big of a deal, but I guess that's what Kyle was so upset about, and she felt like such. It was such a betrayal.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah. And I also. Even though I watched last season, I still don't know, like, what dorit's real issue is with Kyle. Okay. So she downplayed their friendship in a few, which is so rude, by the way. But of course, like, something must have happened before that for her to downplay. I thought Kyle's beef about bravocon and the shot for your hills and was so, like, she's not right for that.

[Jackie Oshry]

Oh, my God. It was so clearly a joke. And dorit wasn't gonna answer the question. And then Kyle spilled on her. She's like, actually, never mind. The fact that she didn't see that that fake answer she gave about Kathy being first and Kyle being less was clearly because she spilled on her. Everyone in the room knew it was a joke, and it was. Kyle is grasping at straws. And that makes me think that she has really no leg to stand on in this argument with dorit and the friendship that do repainted. She was like, what he's gonna say?

[Claudia Oshry]

It's an. Honestly, when I saw that, it wasn't even like, it's about, who does she like more, Kyle or Kathy? It's like, how are you going to rank him third? Like, that's just. It's just a shady question. And she was able to get out of it by drinking. And then I thought she handled it perfectly.

[Jackie Oshry]

I completely agree. And I think the way Dorit describes their friendship from Dorit's pov, which is like, you know, it's very much like Kyle runs this friendship. And if I do or say anything she doesn't, like, she won't talk to me for months. And I'm just like, I'm done feeling discarded. And I feel like when you get separated, like, you find, like, your voice a little bit and you. And I think she's applying a little bit of what she's going through with PK to Kyle, being like, you kind of treat me like a doormat. And, like, when we came on the show, there was a power dynamic. Right. Like, Cath, Kyle really runs this shit. So maybe we got into a pattern where, like, I was okay with being sort of like your sidekick doormat, and I don't like that anymore. And Kyle and Kathy, Kyle's like, wait, what? But this is how it's worked for us for so many years. But the whole downplaying on Amazon Live, like, that was really rude.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah.

[Jackie Oshry]

I was shocked.

[Claudia Oshry]

And I. So I'm like. With Dorit. But she's, like, coming in with this energy to, like, everything. Not just even Kyle, like, just, like, different. And of course, she's, like, going through a lot, but, like, I. I don't know. I'm. She was just kind of, like, being new energy. Yeah. And I. In some areas, I liked it. In other areas, I'm, like, confused, but I guess. But even when she was talking to Kathy, like, unloading about.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah.

[Claudia Oshry]

She's just very. I don't even know the word. Just, like, matter of fact, like, not emotive. I guess that's how she's getting through. And, like, there's a lot that she's dealing with, but it makes it hard to understand her right now. Even though I will. You know, I will ride for her forever.

[Jackie Oshry]

I really want to talk about this party.

[Claudia Oshry]

Oh, my God. Claudia.

[Jackie Oshry]

I was. First of all, the fact that, like, everyone was making fun of Dorit's outfit. Now, I don't know surrealism. I don't know if it was in theme or not, but I know she looked pretty. Like, the fact that Sutton struck had anything to say about anyone's outfit, like, seriously, jail for you and everyone, you know, you. She looked so stupid. Her dress was, like, ugly with the horns. Like, I don't understand surrealism, but I know what's beautiful, and I know what's not. And I know that Sutton looked not beautiful. Like, it was so stupid. I don't know why everybody kept commenting about dorit's disc. I thought it was actually very chic. Like, okay, I don't know, maybe it wasn't surreal. Sure. I thought she looked pretty. Like, isn't that just the baseline to look pretty? I actually thought Kyle looked amazing.

[Claudia Oshry]

They all looked like clowns. So for one clown to point at another clown and say, you're a clown. It's like, hey, we're all clowns here. The party was, like, so crazy to me. Like, it was so weird, I guess. I don't know, surrealism. I missed that day in art history class, so maybe I'm just uneducated, but it was really weird. And it's, like, kind of is giving, like, one of these, like, weird Hollywood.

[Jackie Oshry]

When Jennifer Tilly showed up in the white chicks dress with the duck around her neck, I was seriously, like, these people are so unseen.

[Claudia Oshry]

And everyone was wearing animals on their head. And, like, it was just. I didn't find it cool. And then that singer singing about her pussy.

[Jackie Oshry]

No. And, like, that singer was seriously, like, such a low budget Erica Jane, like, just ask Eric to perform.

[Claudia Oshry]

I know. And then also, it's like, if someone went to anyone else's party and they had that singer, she would be, like, so nose in the air, snobbish. But because it's Sutton's, it's surrealist.

[Jackie Oshry]

And I have something to say that's really mean, because obviously, like, I don't own a home and I rent my apartment, like, places, but Sutton lives on the side of a highway. They kept doing, like, zoom.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah, I saw there were cars.

[Jackie Oshry]

She lives on the 405.

[Claudia Oshry]

I guess so. But I just figured, like, it's part of the. The mountain of Los Angeles.

[Jackie Oshry]

I. I was just. I. I, like, I just expected more from Sutton.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah. I don't know. These housewife parties, like, always make me a little sad because it's like they're all getting dressed up just to, like, talk to each other. And then they have these, like, people in the background who are, like, just so desperate to be on Bravo. Like, it's just.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yep.

[Claudia Oshry]

And then they're, like, so dressed up. It's just, like, doesn't look fun. It was really nice of Erica to say that something throws a great party because, like, that didn't feel like a great party to me. The food looked good.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah, actually, the food did look good.

[Claudia Oshry]

Really good.

[Jackie Oshry]

They never eat. They saw everybody had a plate. It must have been, like, a late party. Everyone was really hungry. I thought that was funny, too. And the only people who looked normal were Garcelle. And Kathy, because they didn't show up in costume, they just wore dresses. Thank you.

[Claudia Oshry]

Hello. I thought Erica looked great for any theme.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yes, yes. But she always liked Slays the House Down Boots. Now I. I just, like, really love Garcelle. And I feel like in arguments, like, I'm not always on her side. But when they were doing, like, normally, like, if you come on and you have a whole like, solo scene about your job, like, seriously, I don't care. Like, I do not care. But she's so, like, valid in being so proud of herself. And when Erica was like, it was so cool to see that chair, that director's chair that said Garcelle Productions on it. Like, I actually felt like, so proud for her. And I just recently saw Coming to America for the first time. And I know that's how she got her start. And, like, I actually really enjoyed that scene. To be like a woman of a certain age, like, producing films, like, and.

[Claudia Oshry]

We'Re doing more than ever when, like, you've always been told, like, it's over for you.

[Jackie Oshry]

She obviously has found a niche where she, like, created a production company. And, like, she's being contracted by Lifetime to make these. Okay, they're not like Oscar winning movies, but, like, there's a crowd for that and there's money in that. And so if she's just like out here banging out X amount of movies per year for Lifetime, like, that's huge money. She's like a single mom. Like, I actually think she's so impressive and I'm sorry, she's fucking funny. Like, when Kyle was like, not saying Morgan's name, like, are you kidding? In her confessional, she was like, I'll say it, it's Morgan. Like, we've literally talked about her for two years now. Like, what the hell are you talking about?

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah, she's just.

[Jackie Oshry]

She's so real.

[Claudia Oshry]

And Kyle had Morgan on the show last season. They got tattoos together.

[Jackie Oshry]

And she called out like, well, you know, your music video didn't help. Like, sometimes she calls out my faves and I'm like, I need you to stop. But sometimes she's so real. Like, I'm sorry, you can't deny, like, that she is actually such an amazing addition to this show. And, like, she brings a level of like, she's like, are you. Like, these women don't live in the real world and Garcelle does. Like, ourselves works for a living. She's worked for herself for a long time. So she's so, like, non. No nonsense that it's such a refreshing take. Except when she's coming for your faves. You're like, okay, so now.

[Claudia Oshry]

Well, so that's my issue with Garcelle at the moment, is that she's coming for my favorite. And I find it so unwarranted. And she was like, really mean to her last season. It was really. It was really unwarranted. So, like, until that's like, they need.

[Jackie Oshry]

To make it right before you can.

[Claudia Oshry]

Even the like alluding to the robbery. Like, not being authentic was so. But there were so many just like mean things. Everything Dorit says and does and wears. Like, she's just like laughing at her, like in her confessional being like sleeping because Dorit's talking. So like, I don't like that. But I agree at this point, like, Garcelle just says the. The thing that like everybody is thinking and she's actually like moving the show forward because they're all having like these real life squabbles. But she's the one like being like, well, we're on the show. It's Morgan. We're on the show.

[Jackie Oshry]

She came on the show, is a professional.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yes. So that is very helpful of her. But you know what? I had a thought last night. I feel like so often we're like, so and so needs to leave the show. And then a few years later we're like, oh, maybe they should come back. I feel like we need to normalize people leaving and then two years later coming back. Like some people we. We needed a break from. You needed it. But like, I could go for Rinna now. And just because I didn't want her to be back on then, like, doesn't mean I was wrong for that then. Like, I think she was going down a place, but now, like, it would be refreshing and I feel like that's actually something you should do more of. Not like, oh, we fired them, they can't come back. But like, some people need a pause sabbatical and I. We should normalize that.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yes. It's sort of like an age old dilemma that the network has where someone is doing their job so well at being a villain. They become so hated. Her getting booed at BravoCon. So much a demand for her to be fired. And you know what? That next season was horrible. Like there is this sort of necessary evil. And I agree, like a one year, two year break because we need Rinna. Honestly.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah. I would go for lvp. I feel like even every time we say someone should go off the show, eventually it's like oh, well, actually, if they came on right now, that would actually be really interesting. Normalize that. We don't have to reinvent the wheel. You don't have to bring a whole new cast of Rahoni. Bring back some of the oldies, greatest kids.

[Jackie Oshry]

Speaking of, I actually really like the new housewife. And I was reading her Wikipedia because she was saying the CEO of Endeavor. I was like, oh, my God. But that was like just the tip of the tail. She worked at Apple Music for many years. Pepsi Co. And she held like, very high C suite level jobs at all these companies. Apple Music, PepsiCo, Netflix, Endeavor. Like, oh, my God. And she's literally retired. And what? She's in her 40s. Like, insane. Like, that's. That's also a housewife we haven't seen before. Like, we usually get, like, rich women with wealthy husbands, but often now we get, like, women who are rich on their own, but never from the corporate space. Like, I've never seen, like, a girl boss and CEO before. I thought, I find her very interesting. I would like to know more about her. And then I was, like, looking into her husband. He was just like, she was the breadwinner. Like, he was like an advertising executive. Like, nothing crazy. So I need to see her house and you see her cars.

[Claudia Oshry]

Like, I think she needs full time.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah.

[Claudia Oshry]

And we'll be seeing that. And that's exciting.

[Jackie Oshry]

And her and Kathy know each other.

[Claudia Oshry]

I Do they? No, she said, I don't think so because she was like, judging Kathy for taking out.

[Jackie Oshry]

But Kathy was like, I know you, boss.

[Claudia Oshry]

I know. But that was a weird moment.

[Jackie Oshry]

It wasn't. That was weird. I feel like everybody tried to make it weird, but I knew what Kathy was saying. Like, yeah, she's known as being like a girl boss and she.

[Claudia Oshry]

Right. No, I think it was weird. There were a lot of weird moments at that party where, like, I. I felt really awkward. Even like Doritos making me feel awkward. I can't. When she walked past the table and, like, stood there, I felt really awkward. It was a really awkward party. Not helped by the big dresses and the hats.

[Jackie Oshry]

Everybody looking so stupid.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah.

[Jackie Oshry]

Was there anything else I wanted to say about Beverly Hills?

[Claudia Oshry]

Beverly Hills?

[Jackie Oshry]

I don't think so. It was, like, a fine episode.

[Claudia Oshry]

I just. I like the franchise. I like the ladies. It doesn't always have to be, like, the crazy for me to watch it is how I feel about Southern charm, too.

[Jackie Oshry]

What I was going to say is because I watched that last reunion, I kind of feel like they. They were a Little hasty in letting go of Crystal Kong Minkoff. I think that, like, well, I found her. I found her annoying.

[Claudia Oshry]

I didn't even realize she wasn't there.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah, I found her annoying. But, like, she is. Was similar to Garcelle in the. In the sense, like, she had no loyalty to anyone. She was like, call out things that made no sense. And on the reunion that I was watching, she was. She was at first seat next to Andy and she was like, calling out Kyle so hard and like, I don't know. I kind of feel like we need that.

[Claudia Oshry]

No, I. I forgot about.

[Jackie Oshry]

And she was really wealthy, and I like that about her.

[Claudia Oshry]

So she's not on the season.

[Jackie Oshry]

No, she was not asked back.

[Claudia Oshry]

I was more so thinking about the other new housewife who didn't even get a fair shake.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah, she also, like, she started a conversation, I don't know if it was on the show or off the show, about, like, you know, trans people in sports, which is just, like a hot button issue. And she, like, wanted to go there.

[Claudia Oshry]

And I. Bravo can't Bravo. It.

[Jackie Oshry]

Bravo wasn't interested in having those sort of complex and dynamic conversations. So they're like, listen, I think it's best if you were just a one season wonder. Did she say something on the show? Because I. I don't know. I didn't watch.

[Claudia Oshry]

No, no, no.

[Jackie Oshry]

All that. Like, I think she was posting about it on her social media.

[Claudia Oshry]

Oh, my gosh. Bravo. Like their panties in a bunch.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah. Like, they can't handle any sort of, like, real controversy like that. So I think that she wasn't a great housewife. Maybe. But the thing is. And what I learned, she never got a fair shot with Eileen Davidson is like, you really need to give someone two years. A fair shake is two years.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah. I wouldn't have, like. And she was married.

[Jackie Oshry]

Maybe it's time to bring Eileen Davidson back. Although I don't think she wants to be on the show.

[Claudia Oshry]

No. And you have to bring, like, rent. You got to bring back the crew.

[Jackie Oshry]

Her girls are not. Are not there.

[Claudia Oshry]

But until we see through this, like, Erica Dorit, Kyle, like, storyline, like, maybe when they need something fresh, they should go back into the archives. I would really like that.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah. Now I want to bring something up that I'm afraid to bring up, but I do feel like we should push your toasters to tomorrow. Like, I agree. I know.

[Claudia Oshry]

I love hindsight. If we're gonna. If we're gonna continue recap.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yes.

[Claudia Oshry]

On Wednesday. Let's move deer toasters Tuesday. So you get it sooner or two or.

[Jackie Oshry]

Oh, yeah, Tuesday. Yeah. Yeah.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yesterday we could have totally done it if we had our guests, but, you know, next Tuesday.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah. So I think this week we will do it tomorrow. We will do it tomorrow. And then I think moving forward, Dear Toaster should be on Tuesdays because I was thinking that last night, if we're going to now do TV recaps of Beverly Hills every Wednesday, then that makes it difficult to do.

[Claudia Oshry]

The cards can't handle such a thing. And makes the upload time longer and. No, it doesn't make sense.

[Jackie Oshry]

I'm scared because we've, like, we've really alienated the Dear Toasters community and we.

[Claudia Oshry]

What's the good news is that to tide you over until literally tomorrow on Patreon, there's a whole episode of Dear toasters right now. 50 minutes, dear toasters Only exclusive. And then when you finish listening to that, after you've listened to today's episode, 30's Q A will be up.

[Jackie Oshry]

I think it's the right choice. And I just didn't want to rush through the the Beverly Hills recap because it was a season premiere and I think it required, like, our full.

[Claudia Oshry]

No, you're speaking fast.

[Jackie Oshry]

Also, who is Jennifer Tilly? I don't know her.

[Claudia Oshry]

We're just supposed to know her. I guess, like, they're acting like she. Just the fact that the opening scene with Sutton and Jennifer talking about a surrealist party, when Sutton said, I'm taking them back to Spain, I was like, why? It's a Jackie episode. Why are we going to Spain?

[Jackie Oshry]

I checked the TV Guide. I thought maybe this was the second episode. Episode. Because it. It sort of opened with this, like, Casualty.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah. It was so weird. I thought they were going to Spain. I didn't realize she was saying she's having a party.

[Jackie Oshry]

Oh, I didn't. I just put together. That's what she was talking about. Well, I was a little disappointed because I'm like, oh, Jennifer must be a new swirly. And Sutton is driving to her house. They pass Kathy's house. I'm like, oh, we got a rich lady in Bel Air. I didn't find her home to be so impressive. Not to be a.

[Claudia Oshry]

But I heard. I read somewhere. I don't even know where. I was reading that. She's, like, very wealthy.

[Jackie Oshry]

Jennifer Tilly.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah. Let's just do a quick Google. Yeah.

[Jackie Oshry]

Like, are we supposed to know who that is?

[Claudia Oshry]

Something about her seems familiar. Like, Lala seemed to know who she was, but maybe she was just. She was like, I love Jennifer, but maybe she was just talking about the one scene that she saw.

[Jackie Oshry]

American Canadian actress and professional poker player. Known for her distinctive breathy voice and comedic comedic timing.

[Claudia Oshry]

She's in a.

[Jackie Oshry]

She was in Liar, Liar.

[Claudia Oshry]

She's in, like, all these Chucky movies.

[Jackie Oshry]

Monsters, Inc. Oh, wait, wait. I'm sorry. I see an old photo of her. I know who she is. She's an actress. Yeah. Classic.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah, she does look familiar. She kind of reminds me of.

[Jackie Oshry]

I know her, but she's also a professional poker player.

[Claudia Oshry]

Maybe that's where the money comes.

[Jackie Oshry]

Maybe. Okay, that's better. Was she on last season?

[Claudia Oshry]

No. Oh, they just, like, jumped to a little bit. Jennifer Tilly.

[Jackie Oshry]

Interesting.

[Claudia Oshry]

Weird.

[Jackie Oshry]

Very strange opening. I love. Kathy's house is beautiful.

[Claudia Oshry]

Oh, my God. When she was sitting there, like, with the IV and the patches and the glam and the rollers, like, she did.

[Jackie Oshry]

Look like a cadaver getting ready for a funeral. Just based on how she was laying and not moving and the ivy and, like, her skin was so pale. I was like, oh, she died. Like, she literally looked like a dead body.

[Claudia Oshry]

No, I feel like that's, like, emblematic of, like, the Whitman of Beverly Hills. Not the show, but, like, the women, where it's like, that is how they come to life.

[Jackie Oshry]

But when Sutton was, like, walking through. Or no, was it Dorit walking through her house? And so we just got, like, a bunch of, like, different visuals of her furniture and shit. I was like, oh, my God, I.

[Claudia Oshry]

Saw, like, a knockoff of her ottomans at Home Goods yesterday.

[Jackie Oshry]

Absolutely gorgeous.

[Claudia Oshry]

Gorgeous.

[Jackie Oshry]

Okay, so that is our show. Tomorrow will be dear Toasters, and it's going to be so good. You guys are gonna be so glad we waited.

[Claudia Oshry]

Maybe we'll even put in four to make it worse. We'll say, we'll see. We'll see what the cards have in store.

[Jackie Oshry]

You guys, thank you so much for listening to the Toast of Money morning show, where we Deliver the Fast5 stories you need to know every Monday through Friday on YouTube. So you're watching us on YouTube. Please subscribe. Give us video thumbs up. We're also available as a podcast. We found Spotify news about how goodly talented we are.

[Claudia Oshry]

Love you. Bye.