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Good morning, millennials.
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Welcome back to the toast and happy Tuesday. The first Tuesday in 2025.
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Is it. Are you sure about that? Like, well, it's this January 7th.
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Could. Could be. Actually, I feel like it is. It is. What?
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The first Tuesday in 2020.
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Thank you for cutting off what was otherwise a brilliant intro. Hey, Jax.
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We had to fact check. We had to. We had to give a community note.
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We did. That's kind of like. That's kind of like what makes us special and different is the lack.
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I know, but we. We hide that later in the episode. Right out the gate.
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Not only is today the first Tuesday in 2025, it's the first year toasters in 2025. And the DTQ, the dear toasters community, will not be silenced. And we're starting off 2025 with that message. We're putting that forward.
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Yes. Bring us your ails.
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Give us your tired. You're hungry.
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I was gonna say that. Bring us your tired. You're poor.
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But, like, what's it from?
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The Statue of Liberty.
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Classic. Oh, you know, Ben and I were just having this discussion. As native. As a native New Yorker. Neither of us have ever been to the Statue of Liberty. Should we do, like, a day trip? Vlog it for Patreon?
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Do not come. I don't think you would like it. I think if you want to visit landmarks, that's, like, a really fun thing to do. But the Statue of Liberty, like, she's a seafaring woman.
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Yeah.
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And she is not on land.
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Ben had made a good point. Like, we probably will have to do those things in the next couple of years. God willing. You know, with our growing family. Like, why do it twice?
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Hundred percent. And it will be, like, really fun when you do it with your family, like, seeing it through their eyes.
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Yeah.
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And if you go now, you're gonna be like this old thing.
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That's why, like, Ben, sometimes it's like, should we go to Disney? I've heard it's really fun. You can drink. And I'm like, no.
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Just like, wait a couple years. No.
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What if we didn't?
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I feel like I've got some dizz in me.
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Soon.
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I haven't planned anything, but I was.
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Actually thinking when the next time you're gonna go to Disney is.
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I should go in the next few months. Tis the season for the Diz.
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Why? Because it's like, cool weather and it's not terrible, like, Chubra weather.
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And it's not like high traffic holiday time. Like, things are more quiet here. Like before Spring break. We went at this time last year, and it was Pargie.
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That just reminded me of something, like, you know, there's so much about pregnancy that reminds me of my former fat life. Like, there's just. I'm sorry. I know. Like, when you get pregnant, you're not getting fat. You're building a human. Of course. But I would be remiss if I didn't notice the similarities. And one of them is I now, like, I get chub rub again. That was something I sort of, like, evolved past.
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You left behind.
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Yeah. And no, we're back, and I've been, like, putting and, like, even, like, chafing between my breasts. Like, lots of different issues. I have a feeling I'm gonna lose the ability to cross my legs soon, which is something I just got back with those epics, so that's upsetting.
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I'm sorry.
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Yeah, just, like, that's a good update about me. Spread them.
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Spread.
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I will be spreading them on the show in the coming months, and I don't want to hear a word about it.
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No, that's fine. Listen. As a podcast, you know.
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Yeah.
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Always available as a podcast. If you don't like what you see.
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Anywhere podcasts can be found. Imagine not liking what you say.
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Hit it. Hit it with the art. The thing is, I don't check every day.
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I checked yesterday. We didn't.
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But I know when we do it, like, the comments are gonna go crazy. So I'm just waiting for that moment.
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Today's a very special day.
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It is. Because every day on this beautiful planet is a special one.
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And.
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And because of what you're doing.
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Yes. We're actually recording today's episode early. So if you're seeing this a little bit earlier, it's one of the things we can thank my coccydinia for. So today I have finally decided to take control of my body and my future and seek out some help with my coccydinia. Now I'm limited in my healing options because I'm pregnant. And when I found. When I got my diagnosis, at first I couldn't share it with you guys, but I did know I was pregnant. I had, like, just found out a week before, so I couldn't really do anything. This is a feature physiocist. Physiatrist. F. I'm not sure.
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Physiologist?
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No. No, I hadn't heard it. Like, phys. Physiatrist? No. Physicist? Oh, no, no, no, no, no. Whatever. Something with your body who specializes in pregnant women. Your body, your body. So I don't know if there's going to be anything she's going to help me be able to help me with. This might just have to be something I sit tight with until pregnancy ends.
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But, like, you'll be sitting tight.
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Oh, will I? But just know, like, while you're enjoying this episode, I'm taking control of my body and my future. Can you say the same?
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I actually, personally can. I don't want to, like, rub anything in, but as you guys know, I've been suffering from sciatica for years. I remember feeling the feeling, like, right after I had Charlie and I started to do a little digging, and one of the notes said, like, magnesium can help. I've started taking magnesium at night. You guys, I'm cured. So not entirely. Like, getting up from the makeup chair this morning hurt a little bit, but, like, compared to where I was, like, I. I'm having no issues.
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And so now when we go back to the conversation of whose condition was worse, the fact that yours was, like, easily treatable with a vitamin. We are not the same.
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We don't know that yours isn't.
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Oh, and I do have sciatica. And over winter break, I actually got locked in, like, a sciatica position. I could not get up off a chair. It was actually really scary. I thought I was going to call an ambulance. So I know what sciatica is like, and I know what bad sciatica is like. And let me tell you, she doesn't have a thing on coccydonia.
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That's not what the commenter said.
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I think it is.
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No, they said, well, the commenters can be really painful. But all I just wanted to share. If you're suffering from what I had been describing all this time, a pinched nerve in the cheek running down the leg. Couldn't put your shoes on. Magnesium.
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The commenters also said they didn't hear a difference in my laugh, and they're wrong.
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So that's hurtful.
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I know.
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And yesterday they're out to get us.
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Last night before bed. I don't know what compelled me. Oh, because it snowed yesterday and it reminded me of something. Every now and then, I realize there's something about me that Ben doesn't know, like a little tidbit from childhood, and I share it with him. And last night, I realized there's, like, this thing that I had to call Margo. I feel like you don't even know about it either. It snowed yesterday, and it reminded me of this thing me and Margot used to do. When we were kids and I was telling Ben about it and I was wheezing so hard, I had the craziest laugh. Like, how anybody could say my laugh isn't different.
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Like, they don't know charity. They haven't been here long enough.
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It's giving death. Like, you obviously don't know me.
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What do you used to do when it snowed?
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So, you know, growing up, me and Margo shared a room. You and Olivia had your own rooms. And me and Mark. So me and Margot definitely have, like, our own history or our own herstory. Excuse me.
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You do. You do.
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And like many kids our age, like, we were obsessed with snow days. And, like, we used to, like, literally, like, beg for them. And like, actually, like, when I was telling about the story last night, I was so embarrassed. Like, I couldn't even get it out. And then I had to call Margo because I, like, it's, like, about, like, this song that we made up, and she was singing it. Like, we were actually crying on the phone. Okay. So Margo and I, like, when we, you know, like, you would see on the news, like, there was a lot of anticipation. Like, it might snow tomorrow. Yeah.
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Yeah.
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And so we wouldn't know if school was canceled yet. We were gonna, like, wake up and find out, and we would just sort of, like, try and put out Manifest. Yeah. Put out positive energy. And we thought that, like, if we made up this song and we sang it and did this, like, special dance, that it would in turn create a snow day. Now, obviously, that as a concept, like, isn't embarrassing or weird, but when I tell you what the song was, like, you will die. Do you know what I'm talking about? No. You have no idea what this is.
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Sing it.
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I actually can't sing it without, like, turning purple. I was. Jackie.
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I was like, honestly, I'll look away. Maybe closer.
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I need to give you a little bit of a background because you're going to be like, why does it sound like that? You're not going to get the song the first time you hear it? Okay.
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Oh, okay. It's a couple listens before. It's.
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As of the second and third time, you're going to be like, okay, it's a bop. I don't know. It was kind of prolific of us because we were super young. We were basically trying to, like, channel, like, the weather gods in, like, a sort of tribal, like, sense. Like. So when you hear the song, it's very, like, African rain dance. Like, I don't know where we picked this Up. Like maybe. Maybe we copied it from a movie or a TV show. But I'm pretty sure it's original and it's not English. It's just sounds like. I actually. I'm so embarrassed. Margot is going to kill me. I called Margo. She thought someone died. I was laughing so hard. I was, like, crying. Okay, so it goes like this. And I need you to actually look away.
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I'm looking away. I'm going to drink my. Actually, I won't drink my coffee. I could choke.
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And imagine me and Margo, we put all of our pillows in a circle and we would, like, do this dance where, like, we would go right arm, left arm, right arm, left arm. Like, very tribal, very, like. I don't know exactly what we were. Like, very Aztec almost. I'm not sure. I mean, I'm sure this is offensive, but it's what we were. Like, we were literally six years old. And I don't know what reminded me of it. I haven't thought of it in so long. And I was telling Ben this story in bed. And, like, I actually was crying. Like, it's, like, so embarrassing. Oh, my God. And I couldn't remember, like, the actual sounds we were making. So I had to call Margo.
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Did she fill in the blanks?
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Of course. And I think that, like, oh, my God. I think that, like, of all the things, she thought she was gonna pick up the phone in here. Liz was like, literally, like, she. I could have given her a million guesses. She was never gonna guess this. Like, it. It had been completely erased for my mind. But it was a thing we did four years. Let me tell you, it never worked. Like, we would wake up the next day.
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I was gonna say, what's the success rate?
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Like, maybe once. And we were like, it worked. Oh, my God. I was laughing so hard. Ben was like, are you okay?
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And I was like, that is so funny. I love, like, how our sister Margot was just like, classic, cool New York City influencer. And, like, we will humble her, like, on this show in her life. Like, reminding her that she's just your kid. Sit.
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She's just a member of a tribe.
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She's just someone's little sister.
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No. And it was such a little sister, by the way.
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Sister with a musical. Big sister. Because, you know, it was your idea. Because, you know, that's not a Margot initiated game.
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Oh, my God.
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Like, she's such a good little sister. Like, as we all could see you doing, of course.
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No, no. And she went along with it. And, like, I really I remember, like, convincing her that, like, it had powers, you know? And she was like, okay. Like, she had nothing to lose. Like, I'm sad. And if she woke up the next day and there wasn't a snow day, she. She would have been like, well, maybe if I did the dance, there would have been.
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Maybe if I danced harder, if I sang louder.
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For her life. Oh, God, I actually can't breathe. Like, we were such freaks. We did a lot of, like, weird. Like, we. We did the classic as kids, like, making up dances. We. We were really into gymnastics, but were those kids. Let's not forget our favorite game, pag.
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Popular and geek.
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Nobody wants to be cast as the geek, let me tell you. It's always me or Margo.
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Yeah.
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And we would basically just like, mimic, like, the movies. Mean girls. Like, yeah. Some of us would pretend to be.
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Cheerleaders, and others, we were, like, actresses.
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And the other one would, like, hold a book.
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Like, it's so crazy that we've, like, gone on to be cool, great things just because it was definitely touching her.
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No, I'm crying like, serious freaks. Yeah. Oh, my God. Hysterical. That's like, sibling. Like. You can. You could never explain it. Like, when I'm. When you guys are listening to this, you probably think it sounds so weird, but, like.
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But then I see these memes of, like, people, like, it's a video. And some will be, like, me and my cousin doing a dance so that we could stay up later. And I'm like, oh, my God. That's. We all had the same childhood. So I actually think a lot of people relate. A lot of people were making up dances and, like, doing shit.
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I think making up dances was, like, by far the most normal thing we did. Like, and it was obviously very political because we, like, grew up in a family that really respected the order of birth. And, like, Olivia took that role really seriously.
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We still do.
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We still do. But Olivia, like, at the time, was definitely on a little bit of, like, a power trip. Any activity that was, like, unsupervised, Olivia was in charge, and she knew it. And she wielded it like a knife. Like, she was actually, like, not a just ruler at all.
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Yeah, she was always the coach. She was always the lead choreographer. Did she even have the talent to be those things? Like, it wasn't a meritocracy. No.
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But she had a computer in her bedroom. So, like, when we needed music and stuff like that, she provided the equipment. So. So in addition to being the eldest and her room, like. Like, actually your room Was the biggest. But she, she. She just, like, she had power and she knew it and she ran with it.
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Yeah.
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I'd be like. If I said, like, I wasn't harboring a little bit of resentment.
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Yeah.
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Oh, man. Anytime. We would, like, cook or bake, which was not, like, a lot, but she was always like, head chef.
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Well, that's an issue that you would have because you were always cooking with her, like, watching the Food Network.
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So true. It's amazing. I never got, like, unable to cook a single thing.
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No, no. It's actually trash.
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I spent my childhood cooking. Can you believe that?
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I spent my childhood not.
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I actually spent my childhood watching Law.
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And Order and Food Network. You cannot understate the importance of that network in your lives.
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You know, it's so funny because when we think about. And I wrote about this in my book a lot, I feel like so much of who I am, like, my personality. And the fact that we do this for a living is the fact that we watched a lot of television growing up, and I was, like, one of the only girls that. That I knew, like, in high school who had a TV in my bedroom. And now we're all, like, screen phobic, and we're like, screen, screen, screen. Meanwhile, like, I would not be who I am if it weren't for the television of yore.
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I agree. It's definitely an interesting thing. And I do. I watch so much tv and look at me. And now I choose not to.
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And you're literally, like, a success.
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But I think there's, like, a lot of different things happening. This is how I. First of all, like, when your kids are two, like. No, no, that's not what we were. We weren't two watching TV. No.
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We were young. We were, like, 10. Yeah.
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And, like, but still, it's like we were develop more so than, like, a toddler.
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Yeah, of course.
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So then a baby.
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Are you saying you think you'll, like, right now, people talk, like, when your kids are, like, eight.
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Yes. But then my other issue is that TVs have changed because now they're these, like, huge, big, colorful things. The TV in your room, Claudia, was, like, the size of a computer monitor, like a laptop. And you were so far away, like, you weren't, like, zoned in on it the way that people sit in front of, like, a huge screen these days.
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No, also, like, as kids, we used to get in trouble for sitting too close to the tv. We used to have to, like, back up.
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Yeah. And, like, the tv, the quality just, like, wasn't what it is now, like, the colors and. Which is nice when you're watching Wizard. Wicked.
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Yeah.
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You know, putting it out. Just putting it out for D. No, no. I think about that all the time. Like, even Gary Jannetti, like, he's such a success because he was addicted to television. Yes.
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And that's a theme. And when we read Kiki Palmer's book, it was like she literally saw her life throughout television. Like, no. So many successful people, especially in entertainment, like, were shaped by modern entertainment.
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Yeah. And. But a lot of people probably are also. Couch potatoes.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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For every Kiki Palmer, there's like a leather couch potato. Yeah.
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There's a Larry.
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Yeah. It's so true. I love that.
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I don't know, you know, it's all in flux. Turtleoo.
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We actually have quite a bit to get into today because we have remaining stories, actually, like, just for a regular Tuesday. The stories are very good, Sen Foster and Hugh Jackman, but there are a couple of things that we need to.
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A couple of odds and ends from the globes and then a couple other things we need to discuss. And then dear Toasters, as you said. So I guess we could just, without further ado about the band Aid.
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Yeah.
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Get into the fast five stories that you do need to know.
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I'm doing Sakara and in my box this month I saw they were partnering with Alo Moves for January Today moving.
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Today's episode is also brought to you by agy. And I feel like the theme of today and just like this month is.
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Month, but like I'm doing it in earnest. I just want you guys to know, like, I'm serious about my goals.
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Oh my gosh.
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He was like tweaking. He's obsessed. And there's no and it's such a really easy thing to add into your wellness routine. And there's so many great benefits. It also just like, it's just easy. Like, I think a lot of people get a little out of control with their wellness hacks. And things of that nature. And so this year, if you're looking to have, like, a really good morning stack, I think a lot of people, like, do a couple of key things in the morning to make them feel really good. AG1 is one of them. It's so easy. You pour it in your water, you chug it, you're done. Try AG1 for yourself. It's the perfect time to start a new healthy habit. And that's why we've been partnering with AG1 for so long. And they're offering new subscribers A FREE 76 gift. When you sign up, you'll get a welcome kit, a bottle of D3K2, and five free travel packs in your first box. So make sure to check out drinkag1.com toast to get this offer. That's drinkag1.com toast to start your new year on a healthier note. Actually, Ben and I were watching TV last night. I saw a cable commercial during Jeopardy for AG1. It was like, okay, pop off dog. Mainstream success.
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I have a question for you. It's probably hard because you're pregnant and, like, who. Like, this is not.
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Who cares about. Yeah, no, no.
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Like, do you have any resolutions that you're trying to do? Like, are you trying, like, New Year, new you?
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I am not. I meant to talk about that on yesterday's episode, but it got, like, lost in the flush. I think the last couple of years I've had resolutions that I really stuck to that I'm really proud of. Like, two years ago, I was like, it's the year of yes. I'm going to say yes to life and go to things and take trips and go to the edge of a cliff. Last year, I wanted to quit my vape, and I did. I thought. I actually had one thought this year that I'm not gonna do, but I saw a tick tock that was really compelling. This girl was like. She was in her car and she was talking about how much she loves the toast. But she was like, my kid is just, like, repeating so much stuff and I can't listen to the toast in the car anymore because, like, the swirlies love to drop like a big F bomb. And I was like, ah. Like. Like the video, like, really spoke to me. I was like, shit, that fucking sucks, like, for you and for me.
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And I was, it does stink for us because eventually she misses enough episodes. I know she might not feel caught up. She might drop off.
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So it crossed my mind, like, maybe work on my cussing. But while this is like a show for the swirlies. It's also a comedy show. And, like, I just feel like it's funny. Like, I don't know, I struggle. Because what about.
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What about extraneous cussing? You know? Because sometimes it's not necessary. Sometimes it is.
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Yeah, but that's just, like, a lot of mental gymnastics to do when I'm, like, trying to be myself and be funny and, like, you know, get to work, get to the office.
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I know, but you're also. You are probably going to want to tone it down when you have a child, so it's better to start now.
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Another.
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Not that I'm. Not that I'm perfect.
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Another thing I was thinking about, because there's definitely, like, an AI program that you can run your audio through that, like, bleep out any curses. Like, what if every day we just release two episodes, like, clean and explicit.
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But then, like, what about the charts? Because then we're splitting. Oh, our listenership. Like, we live for seeing ourselves high on the charts.
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Should offer. Just between you.
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Yeah, that is, you should be able.
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To choose, like, choose the episode. Be like, we'd like to hear this clean or explicit. And they bleep out the. Okay, free idea. Somebody should do that.
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Yeah, I think that's a really good idea.
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You guys have suggestions. Sound off in the comments. Like, it's something I've been thinking about. I just don't know if I'm really capable of stopping cursing. It's who I am.
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So it was like, my resolution. Maybe even the last two years. It's always something that's been top of mind. I've definitely decreased usage, but not eradicated completely.
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Now if it's potentially affecting our business, we have to talk about that.
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And especially as, like, we all grow together, I feel like we grow in tandem with our sisters of the toasters.
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And we work in tandem.
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If they feel like they can't listen to us in this new stage of their lives, like, that's not good.
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I know.
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Something to think about.
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Agreed.
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Definitely. Definitely food for thought.
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Yep.
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I have a lot of resolutions.
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Okay, let's hear them.
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I'm, like, really trying. I'm going so hard on New Year, New Me, and, like, in a. In a real way. Like, first of all, drinking more water. Drinking water in the morning before I have my coffee, I need to stop drinking my coffee. Like, right when I'm rubbing my eyes. Like, I need to drink water first. So so far that's going well. But then I have to pee so bad during the toast. It's like, kind Of I know a good thing. I know, of course, eating healthier. Right now I'm doing Sakara, so that covers me for the week. But then, you know, going forward, more protein, more healthy.
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Yep.
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I do okay with that. I do.
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You do.
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And then also, like, being neater. Like, more purging of things in my house. More cleaning, more scrubbing, like, cleaner spaces. I'm all for, like, more throwing everything in the garbage all the time.
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More sweeper.
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Sweeping. More sweeping. It's true.
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Swiper.
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I started following, like, more creators who like our comfort creators who also do, like, a lot of cleaning. Like, I'm watching them do their laundry.
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And now I want to do.
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Yeah, they're, like, wiping down their counters. I'm buying their cleaning products like that. More of that. More productivity.
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That's a resolution I can get behind.
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And I would also love to. This today is actually great because this is unlocking an extra hour and a half in my day by starting so early. I would love to unlock my mornings with more productivity.
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Yeah. Well, you could be one of those moms who, like, wakes up at 5am and like, goes to the gym before her kids get up.
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The thing is, I couldn't. Okay, but like, maybe getting dinner in a crock pot, like, before the toast. That way in the time I'm usually cooking, I could be doing something else.
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I like that Time management.
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Time management, stuff like that.
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That's big.
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Let's get to the story, shall we? Yes. First up, the biggest news for us of the day. Hugh Jackman and Sutton Foster have stepped out hand in hand for a dinner date in LA with People magazine. So it's important to note that, like, everything about this is scheduled, coordinated, staged, coordinated with People magazine. So, like, they've made the decision. They are coming out publicly. They should have gone to the Golden Globes together. But, like, I won't say anything. They are ready to take on the world.
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So she. They could not have gone to the Golden Globes because she is, like, previewing a new play, Once Upon a Mattress. And so it had two big opening nights, and he was there both nights. So there was a lot of whispers like, oh, what is he doing there? He must be. And now this picture just confirms what we all knew.
A
What is he doing there? Like, we know. I didn't even know he was at her play. I should have known that.
B
The fact that they're older and more mature. Mature, like, makes me think that, like. And while this is definitely, like, coordinated and, like, a planted photo, which makes me cringe it does give me joy that, like, it's a well thought out launch and, like, they are really serious about each other because, you know, they both left their marriages. If they're not serious, they wouldn't have shared. And if they didn't think this relationship was going anywhere, they were going to stay in private until they figured it out. So the fact that they're choosing to share this because it's clearly a, you know, a staged photo makes me think that the relationship's in, like, a really healthy place.
A
Yes. And I feel like maybe the relationship got out before they were ready, but everything that they've done. He left his wife a few years ago. She left her husband maybe six months ago, and, like, now they're coming forward with their relationship. So it's been months of each of them being, like, technically single.
B
Kosher.
A
No, it is kosher. And if we didn't know that they had been dating this whole time, they would have stepped out today, and we'd be like, oh, how beautiful. So I think they are just, like, really trying to do everything by the book. And they are like, what else can they be doing? It's not their fault that they fell in love. They're doing everything right. And instead of being, like, caught out pictures of them, they're like, putting out pictures to the fans, to you and I. Yeah. And they're really trying to be by the book. I love that.
B
And to be clear, while, like, one could poke holes in their timeline, like, people are not, the general reception to this is overwhelmingly positive. I'm sure there's, like, people being like, well, she was spotted here wishing anniversary, whatever. I.
A
No, I think they. They definitely fell in love while one music of them were married.
B
Yeah, well, but they did the Music man together, and that was like.
A
But there's a difference between, like, accidentally falling in love, acting on it, like. And I think that as best as they could handle it, there's not a right way to go about fortunate thing that happens or. And unless it's true love, like, stay where you're at. Okay.
B
And I don't want to get ahead of myself, but it appears as though it's true love.
A
So that's the thing. It's true love. And. And who's not getting behind true love?
B
Now, what are your thoughts on being in a committed relationship with somebody who's in the exact same field as you? And it's a field that's quite competitive. Theater.
A
Yeah. You mean. But also not theater feels like, less risky than, like, Hollywood.
B
Well, yes, Theater is Like, everyone's a little bit more normal and down to.
A
Earth, and you can live, like, a quiet life. Like, you do your shows, you go home. It's very routine.
B
Yeah, I think what I meant more theater and, like, at their level, you know?
A
So I think it just depends on the person.
B
Both. It just feels like they're both doing more plays now.
A
Oftentimes, two big stars can't be together. They want, like, out. There's a million things, competitiveness. But these two, as much as we don't know them, the way that they seem like grounded people.
B
Yeah. Yeah. But do you think it's, like, a little too close for comfort ever?
A
I. I think it would. Yeah. I think it would be for most people.
B
Yeah.
A
But some people feed off of that energy, and they're collaborative, and there's plenty of success relationships in the biz. A handful of them. Not a lot, but some.
B
Oh, you know what? That just reminded me of a great Nikki Glaser joke when she was talking to Nicole Kidman and Keith Urban, and she was just like, I love that you don't stop playing guitar. So Nicole needs to leave the house as much as possible and do 85 films a year. Like, so funny. And we also, like, thank you for doing a long bit on Nicole and Keith. So we got to watch them interact for, like, 15 seconds, and I just. I just love them.
A
Yeah.
B
Just. I don't know who I like more in the relationship. Like, that's how, you know it's a good couple. I actually think I might like Keith Urban more, but that's just because of my tastes also.
A
You know what's funny? I feel like a few months ago, I said on the show that, like, Nicole Kidman, like, needs to do something other than, like, all the roles she's been playing. And so she did Baby Girl, and, like, I'm not gonna see it. I'm kind of like, I missed Nicole Kidman.
B
Yeah. Wait. She definitely decided, like, she made a choice, like, I don't know when to shift a little bit. She was doing a lot of the same. And even she was a perfect couple.
A
And had the same feeling we all had, which was like, I need to get out of my box. And so did something else. But now I don't know if she feels this way, but I'm like, okay, I'm ready for more Nicole Kidman.
B
Yeah. I have not seen Baby Girl, although I ended up on Baby Girl Talk, where different films, like, the more controversial ones from the film, like, people were filming it in theaters, and so I think I saw what I needed to sell. Like, I saw her drinking the milk, you know.
A
I don't know.
B
Would you like for me to tell you? Because it's not what it sounds.
A
Tell you the funniest thing.
B
What?
A
Dana, over winter break, she went to the movies with her in laws and saw Baby Girl.
B
God. Oh my God. Oh my God. That's terrible. I saw this hilarious TikTok of a girl who like over the holidays went to the movies with her parents and they're walking out and she's filming her dad and he's just like this. I don't know if they were from.
A
New York, what did they see?
B
Baby Girl. And he was giving like old Brooklyn. He was like, these people are fucking disgusting. Like, like. Because the premise of the movie is that like Nicole Kidman starts an affair with like this young guy at work. And so I thought it was like a May December type of movie, but it's really not about that. It's like the kid in the film is like freaky and he makes like Nicole do freaky stuff and it's like submit.
A
It's like submissive.
B
So he like makes her pretend to be like a cat and she like drinks milk from a bowl and then like has to stand in the corner and like she's literally. She's looking at the wall like she's timeout. Like it was seriously. It was disturbing and I will not be seeing it. But I agree, it points to a seismic shift in Nicole Kidman.
A
You don't want to go see it with your in laws.
B
Nah. Nah. That's really crazy of Dana. She's actually crazy.
A
She had no idea.
B
Well, that's unfortunate. Beyond. Yeah.
A
Yeah. Classic Dana. Seeing if we recorded the residents yesterday. The residents, the redheads we recorded yesterday. The book was actually. I think everyone really liked the book and we're about to ruin it for you. Seriously. Seriously ruined.
B
Love that.
A
Yeah. Are you ready for our next story?
B
If we must move past these two, then.
A
Yeah, I know. We'll. We'll always find a way to bring it back to them. We will keep tabs on them throughout the years that they will spend together.
B
Yeah.
A
Many, many years. Yeah. Our next story is a couple Golden Globes. Odds and ends.
B
Okay.
A
First up is the Demi Moore Kylie Jenner snubbing.
B
Yeah.
A
This video's going viral of Demi going up to the complete unknown table with. That's Timothy's table with Kylie and Elle Fanning. And who's the other girl?
B
I don't know her, but she's so pretty. Yeah.
A
Yeah. And she's, like, talking to the two girls completely, like, ignoring Kylie. Kylie's, like, really excited for her. And then, like, realizes she's being ignored and turns around.
B
Yeah, she's, like, smiling it to me. And she's, like, trying to get her attention and, like, interject in the conversation.
A
And then, like. And then me goes like, you two look so beautiful. And that's when Kylie turns around. And I saw this video going on so many times, and I was like, people, things get taken out of context. Like, stop. Like, she didn't snap her. And then I watched it, like, really closely, and I watched Kylie, and you can see Kylie felt snubbed. And I know that Demi's daughter has also, like, taken to social media to clarify that she did not snub her.
B
But, like, Demi had just won. She was really overwhelmed. Like, she doesn't have anything against Kylie. She probably didn't even, like, notice this girl behind her. She knows Elle Fanning really well. So, like, that's where she was focusing. I don't think it was an intentional stub. And I had the same exact reaction, like, when people were, like, making this video go around. I'm like, everybody just wants to, like, bring Kylie down. Like, classic Kardashian haters. And then I watch it in full. I was like, damn. And could I just say we've all been there, where you're, like, trying to interject in a conversation. Like, literally, the people are not fudgeing, letting you in. So I had a lot of sitting.
A
There smiling, and she's just at those events, she's really, like, Timothy's plus one. I feel like she really doesn't want to detract. And so whether or not to me, like, knew she was. That Kylie was next to her is just, like, Timothy's girlfriend. Like, like, it was. It was a snub. Whether it was intentional or not, I couldn't say. I don't know her. But you could see Kylie felt snubbed and she, like, turns around and picks up her camera. Like, I just know anyone who hurts Kylie, like, hurts me.
B
I know. And things like this don't really happen to the Kardashians because, like, the main girls like Kim, Chloe and Chris, they know everyone. Like, they are movers and shakers, and they could go to the Grammys, they could go to the Oscars, like, and they would know everyone. Like, how. Sort of how the Met Gala became, like, Kardashian fest. Like, they are very popular and well liked amongst celebrities in all different industries, whether it's music or film. But Kylie definitely keeps to herself and, and going to the Golden Globes now for the second year in a row, it's always like a step outside her comfort zone. She very much operates in like sort of the influencery type of space. So I felt really bad for her. And we're just not used to seeing the Kardashians in position like this because every room they enter, like they are always the most well known and even if not well known, kind of popular. They're, they're social people and they know everyone. They invite everyone to their holiday party. Like Chris is, she has her hand in everything.
A
Like Chris has her own. And like each one of them has so many friends that together the whole family is friends with the whole industry.
B
Yeah. But except Kylie. She's really like to herself.
A
Yeah. So I don't know if there was like malicious intent. Like I don't like Kylie Jenner, but like it was, it was a.
B
Let me tell you something. To me, Moore is almost 60 years old. She's not starting drama with Kylie Jenner. Like she was over like she had just won. It was like this huge moment for her. She ran into somebody she knew. I think that it was like completely unintentional. Having said that, painful to watch.
A
Yeah. The. Her daughter, Demi's daughter said hi at everyone but really press nipping this straight in the bed. We bud. We spent New Year with Elle so connecting with her after a win was very organic thing to do. This angel was in total shock and delight and moving throughout a warm room of well wishers. There was not a snub of any sort. Had she seen KJ wanting to congratulate her, she would have fully given her the time and space. Literally just give it all a break.
B
Oh, I'm so sorry. Not to make everything about me, but I do feel like a personal reference would be helpful here. I actually met Demi Moore like somewhat recently. She was asking me 1 million questions about like comedy and podcasting. She was unbelievably nice. It was very disarming. I'm sorry, I totally forgot that like I actually kind of.
A
Where did you meet her?
B
I don't know her. At a birthday party.
A
Turtle Lou. She.
B
I remember me and Ben were like dazzled by her and I wouldn't say like before she her like big box office successes like predates my, my time a little bit. So I'm not super familiar. I never saw like what is she in like Kill Bill? Like what's the thing that like G.I.
A
Jane.
B
Yeah. You know what I mean? So I really wasn't familiar, and I wasn't expecting to be dazzled beyond, like, she had literally no idea what I did for a living. She was so curious, Genuinely, she was like. And as a woman, that's amazing. Like, she was so nice. And she has this, like, little dog that weighs half a pound that she brings everywhere with her. I forgot. She's unbelievably nice to, like, a nobody like me. I'm telling you, she didn't stop Kylie.
A
My go.
B
Not me forgetting my personal reference.
A
So do you think she just didn't know that was Kylie next to her and just thought it was, like, a rando?
B
I think there was, like. Like, she didn't even care to turn around. It couldn't have been anyone. Like, she was so excited about her win, and it's this big night for her, and she ran into this girl that she loves. Like, I just think of all the things happening in front of her. It was too much to even look to the left.
A
Okay.
B
That's what I think. And you know what? I'm trusting my fave.
A
Okay. Love that.
B
Yeah.
A
Also from the Golden Globes, Little Part two is that Kate Beckinsale and Matt Rife were spotted kissing at Netflix's Golden Globes bash.
B
Yes, they were. I saw that before I went to bed last night. I was. I was disturbed.
A
You was disturbed?
B
Let me say something. I don't like Matt Rife, and not for the reasons that, like, everybody does. Like, he made a joke about, like, people on the spectrum, and people found it offensive. Like, a joke is a joke. Like, I actually don't care. I just, like, find him annoying. Like, his face. And so I also don't understand, like, how he rose to fame so quickly. I just, like, none of it makes sense to me. So I'm not, like, championing him, if you know what I mean. Also, he notoriously was not very nice to Brooke Schofield, former toast guest. So I stand with my girl Brook. So I'm just not. I'm not, like, I'm not a champion of his, and so I. I don't like to see him winning, honestly. Like, that's.
A
Yeah, that's a win for him. They also had dated in the past, and then when she started dating Pete Davidson, he, like, told Pete to be careful. So there's, like, weird history. And.
B
And Jackie Brooks Schofield is involved in some capacity. Like, before he really, really blew up. Like, I think she was dating him, and he literally pretended like he didn't know who she was. Like, something really crazy. She's talked about it on a bunch of podcasts. I can't remember if she talked about it on the toes, but I feel like I would remember. So. No, it's like, a weird story. He, like, he gives me really bad vibes.
A
Yeah. People really love him, though. Like, his fans.
B
Oh, okay. Well, that's good.
A
Yeah. So I just feel like it's like you either are one of his fans or, like, you. You really dislike him, or, to me, like, apathetic.
B
Yeah.
A
No thoughts?
B
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I. I happen to really like Kate Beckinsale.
A
You've met her, too?
B
I have met her, too, and she's unbelievably cool. Like, yeah, like, we were at a restaurant. Sorry, I had to tell the story. And she was driving home, and she. We were at Craig's, so, like, you know, there's paparazzi outside. And she was like, do you want to lift home? And I was like, duh. Because my hotel was right by her house. And she was like, okay. And I was like, oh, man. I'm literally gonna be walking out of Craig's, like, with Kate Beckinsale. The paparazzi is gonna go nuts. But she's Kate Beckinsale. She literally had, like, a special exit, like, with an umbrella and in the back and, like, the car. We drove right past paparazzi. Nobody even saw us. I was like, oh, this is great. Thanks. Thanks for the ride.
A
Are you ready for our next story?
B
Yeah.
A
Number three.
B
Yeah.
A
Confirmation that Zendaya and Tom Holland are engaged. Details are emerging about the betrothal. So they are engaged? A family source confirmed to People. TMZ was the first to report to the news. According to the outlet, he proposed at one of Zendaya's family homes over the holidays. A source told people that everyone close to them knew an engagement was happening, just not when. The source said that he had been keen to propose to Zendaya for a while. He. They said he's always been crazy about her. He always knew she was the one. They have something very special.
B
They give Paige and Craig, like, the guy just being so obsessed with the girl. Like, it's up to the girl. When the timeline, you know, I think he would have married her years ago. I sort of thought of these two as, like, in a permanent, like, domestic partnership. Very Kurt and Goldie and Kurt.
A
Yeah. I wasn't on, like, ring watch.
B
Me neither.
A
I just felt like. But I guess that's what happens. Like, you either get married or you Break up. Or sometimes you just stay as you are. But, like.
B
Right.
A
Most of the time, it goes one way or the other. So this is really exciting news that we weren't even, like, waiting. Didn't even have on our list. I feel like all these people do, like, predictions for the year. Like, this should have been a prediction.
B
But, yeah, they're just so settled and everybody's so, like, used to them and they're so in love and they're so private that I don't even think about their timeline at all.
A
But then it makes you think about Kylie and Timothy, right?
B
Yeah.
A
Because they're together two years now.
B
Kylie's also never been married, and she.
A
Is, like, a relationship girl. And they will either. Like, maybe they wouldn't get married just because there's so much at stake, but have children together.
B
Yeah.
A
Maybe she wants more kids. If this is her man, like, that's what they're gonna do.
B
That's really crazy.
A
I know. But it feels like, really, I wouldn't even say all this before Zendaya and Tom, because I just feel like they're the two that could be private and date forever. We'll literally never see them on a red carpet together. No reporters ever allowed to ask questions about the other.
B
Yeah. I feel like if they have a big wedding, which I don't even think that they will, like, we'll never even see a photo of it. Not even, like, a Vogue exclusive. Yeah, they're, like, too big for that. I saw a funny tweet that was, like. Because she's such a fashion girly. Like, can you imagine the phone calls like, her and Law Roach must be getting now that everyone knows she's engaged? Like, I know she has her deal, so, like, Louis Vuitton. Right, Right. But she could have any designer in the entire world, like, begging at her feet to make a wedding dress. Like, who would she go with? Even though I feel like they're literally the courthouse. Like, Carrie wearing her and the bride wore a dress by no one.
A
No. I feel like they'll have a wedding. It's not going to be, like, a huge. They're probably overseas.
B
Yeah. Well, the way that small TMZ is reporting that they got engaged was, like, also, like, really sweet, intimate family. Was, like, at Zendaya's family home over the holidays. Really intimate. Like, no drama, no big fireworks. And that's. They're just. They're such the real deal.
A
Yeah.
B
And I know they give us nothing, and I respect that entirely. There's literally that one picture of Them that she's taking like a mirror photo of him and her in his Spider man costume. Like, and they use that for every press article because there's not a single other photo of them. I would love to just see like something, you know, like they give us nothing.
A
I feel like she probably thinks she's not going to do the big wedding because they're like so private, whatever. But like, you do get carried away when this is caught up. She's just a girl, you know, And I still, I don't think that means she's going to have a 300 crazy wedding. But like, you're getting married, so you want a wedding dress. Of course. You want the best, nicest dress made by Christian Dior himself.
B
Right. Even if it's like, you know, a casual dress.
A
Yeah, even if it's for a beachside wedding.
B
I could see them doing that, by the way.
A
And then you get the dress and then you need the wedding to accompany the dress.
B
Well, that's the premise of Sex in the City. Like once you get the venue. And when she said, what does she say to Big? You play poker, right? The dress up the ante. Like, yeah, it's easy to get carried away.
A
But I just want to say, like, that happens. That's real. Because then you have this insane dress and you're like, more people need to see it. It needs to be. It needs to be in this place.
B
She's completely valid for that. The only mistake she made, and it was literally her fatal flaw nail in her coffin, was she so did not read the man she was. She didn't know the guy she was married, marrying at all. Like, because if you did, you would know that this would really be like a turn off to him. And he was visibly getting like more distant, more angry and she just ignored it. I have a fairy dress.
A
Like, grow up, Big Dope energy.
B
Zendaya would never do that.
A
Like, she knows, by the way, Tom Holland would think her happy. Whatever kind of wedding you want, right?
B
He would do it. And that's the difference. Like, Big was like a piece of shit who, like, if Carrie wanted something and it made her so happy, he didn't give a fuck. Like, that didn't move the needle for him at all.
A
Literally the day that he proposed to her, she should have taken him down to the courthouse and married him because, like, she should have known that his.
B
Gun behind his back.
A
No, it's like, oh, you're feeling like marriage today, let's do it today. Because tomorrow, who knows?
B
It's so True. So that was her fatal flaw. Like, you can't. Nobody could get mad at her, of course. And then the library, like, it was so. And it's so New York. And she's so fabulous. It was her first wedding. No matter how old you are, like, it's always exciting. But her problem was she had no idea who she was marrying, or she, like, seriously didn't care.
A
And she also, like, lost the plot completely. Next story number four. Are you ready? Very exciting news for everyone, because shark tanks Kevin O'Leary says that he's nearing a deal to buy TikTok.
B
Okay, I saw this.
A
Shark tanks. Kevin O'Leary has plans to purchase TikTok. During an appearance on the Story with Martha McCollum on Monday, he explained expressed interest in acquiring ownership of the social media platform before it faces a ban in the US on January 19th. So is TikTok going away on January 19th if nothing happens?
B
Okay, I feel like everybody's being really dramatic because what's not being said about January 19th? And President Trump has said, like, he, like, well, he'll help. Like, he doesn't want TikTok out. Like, he's going to figure it out. So everybody's being really dramatic, being like, follow me on Instagram, you're never going to see me again. But also, if it's not going away, let's say, you know, nobody can save it. Right. And everything happens on January 19th. All that means is that it's not going to be available in the App Store anymore. So if you already have it downloaded, the app will still work. Like, it just. It can't grow. But if you have it, you can keep posting on it and engaging with it.
A
Oh, interesting.
B
Yeah.
A
So sure.
B
No, but that's what I heard.
A
That's the vibe. Well, I just want to. I feel like the sale of Tick Tock has literally been in the conversation since 2020, and that there's, like, serious privacy issues with the app and it needs to be under new ownership where, like, those things would be taken care of. And I just want to say, like, I nominate Kevin O'Leary. If Kevin O'Leary buys TikTok, I will join. How about that?
B
So I'm reading because I just wanted to, like, fact check myself.
A
Okay.
B
So Trump has urged the Supreme Court to postpone the impending ban, which is set to take effect on January 19th. You become president when?
A
On the 20th. January 20th. Yeah.
B
Maybe we'll have one day without the talk.
A
That would be like. It'll be like those Lisa Frank memes. The Dolphins are Jumping the rainbows are.
B
Out productivity and mental health through the roof. So the app is going to be removed.
A
Goes up.
B
The app is going to be removed from the App Store. But, like, that's it. The app itself.
A
Okay.
B
Yeah.
A
Okay. Well, then I guess it would, like, be like Uno Reverse when Trump.
B
And the reason why TikTok is upset because it'll. Because the app will now become unavailable to half the country that doesn't already use the app. So if you already use it, you should just download it just in case. Not that the sale and ending the support service quote, this is TikTok statement will cripple the platform in the US and make it unusable. I don't know if that's true, but if it can't grow, I could buy a new phone.
A
If you get a new phone. So eventually it would die off. Interesting. Well, I think Tick Tock needs new ownership and I think Kevin O'Leary would be amazing. What do you think about Kevin?
B
I'm a big Kevin fan. Having said that, I didn't realize he was like, you know, liquid like that. Like, I know he's got a couple billion, but how I see things. Like, doesn't Tick Tock cost, like, billions? Like, more than that?
A
Yeah, well, he would have, like, partners putting together a team, but he also would need the support of Trump to get it through and be able to be the one.
B
Well, I feel like Kevin O'Leary has been, like, kind of political recently. Like, I've seen him on the news a lot. I feel like he's, like, trying to, like, start a new sort of part of his career, like a little bit more. Like a little bit more serious. And this is a kind of a good step. I think he wants, like, get in with the admin.
A
With the admin. Oh, the administration.
B
Yeah.
A
Oh, interesting.
B
And I think this is, like, a step in the right direction. And I'm sure he has a lot of wealthy friends who, like, would be down. It's a good investment. Tick Tock is, like, a very successful business. So if you can get the money to buy it like you should. So I'm sure he has, like, a couple of. Couple of other billionaires who are more quiet, sort of silent angel investors.
A
Yeah. Because people would want to buy it.
B
I mean, if I had the money, I think it's pretty sound investment. People love it. It's like you can't stop the growth.
A
Yeah. Oh, so like, kind of countdown to January 19th. It will be interesting. I didn't realize, like, people have been talking about It. But I kind of checked out because I'm not on the app.
B
Yeah.
A
And people literally have been saying this for five years. So, like, I know it's Boy who Cried Wolf. They've literally been saying. It's still. Did not spend, like, one. It did not spend one day being banned. So I've moved on with my life. Interesting.
B
We just have another, like, checkpoint coming up that we have to get past. Who knows what's gonna happen January 19th.
A
Right. Okay. I have a lot of, like, little countdowns. Also, Molly May's documentary. January. Right.
B
Right.
A
Meghan Markle's show.
B
Right. We also working on a personal project. January 28th. I don't know if you know about that.
A
I am.
B
Yeah. We're working on a personal project. You obviously don't look at the timeline that was sent to you yesterday.
A
Oh, yes. Oh, sorry. I didn't realize that. I didn't. That's sort of like. It's not a hard day, don't you find?
B
No, I'm actually, like, counting on it being a hard launch.
A
I need to find Megan's date because I just keep alluding to it.
B
And she went on Netflix last night to, like, see if I could watch it, and it wasn't there.
A
It's this week. Hold on. I'm getting to the end of the trailer.
B
Oh, I watched a Maggie documentary on Netflix. I think you would like it.
A
I watched Anna Vici documentary in the past before, and I really liked it. January 15th. Okay. Longer than I thought.
B
For Megan, this one is narrated by Veach, and they have amazing footage. Eventually, obviously, like, at some point, it stops being narrated by him. But Ben is, like, such a big of each and, like, house music fan, so I thought it was, like, a good pop culture thing that we could agree on, and I really enjoyed it, and I learned quite a bit. And honestly, if anybody watches, tell me if you also walked away. Like, this one of my takeaways, which is, like, seriously the most irrelevant part. Like, Chris Martin, like, was a part of the problem. Well, not a part of the problem. That's, like, an overstatement. But they're talking about these different phases of Avicii's life, and there's, like, a huge phase where he's just genuinely unhappy making music that's, like, not good and not, like, from his soul. And he's just saying yes to everything because he's so in demand. He's on tour. He's just. It's classic fame.
A
Yeah.
B
Destroy. And the person they bring in to talk about the time Working with them during. Working with Avicii during that time is Chris Barton. And Chris Barton's, like, talking about how. Oh, Sky Full of Stars. It's amazing. It's amazing. But in the context of the documentary, it's, like, the worst time in Avicii's life. It's like he's putting out, you know, less than stellar music, and it's like Chris Martin's over here being like. It was so fabulous, and he was so busy, and it's like. Well, actually, that was, like, the worst time of Avicii's life. That was right before he, like, sort of crashed out, decided to stop doing live performances, took a ton of time off, and then came back, like, much healthier. So I was like, chris Martin, yikes. I don't know if he knew, like, in the context of the timeline, like, he was gonna be, like, sort of the face of the bad part.
A
Yeah.
B
But then it was really good doc.
A
The doc is saying he was making, like, bad music because he was at a low point, but Sky Full of Stars is, like, one of the biggest songs ever.
B
Yeah. Not bad music, but just, like, not what. And the. The documentary really shows. Like, obviously he really started with, like, house and edm, but, like, this was a person who was so supremely talented at all music. Like, he ended up being, like, just as big of a producer for other people, very, like, Ryan Tedder, than he was as a DJ himself. And so he loved country music and he loved bluegrass. Like, he. He could have written anything. House was just how he, like, fell into music when he was a teenager. And he realized, like, as his career progressed, it wasn't even his passion so much, like DJing and things like that. It was just making music, any type of music that he thought. Like, he worked with Nile Rogers, he worked with country, soul. And during the Chris Martin time, it was just, like, everybody wanted to work with him. So he would just say yes to everyone and, like, bang out a song in a couple of hours. Like, it wasn't meaningful. It wasn't from his soul, you know?
A
Yeah, yeah.
B
And he was really insecure about the fact that he didn't play any instruments, like, super well. So that was something he was actively working on.
A
Interesting. Maybe I will watch it, but I do. I feel like the last time in Avicida came out, like, it was a really, really good one, and I was finished. It's so sad. I've been watching Aaron Rodgers. I was telling you, I watched two episodes so far.
B
Compelling.
A
That a rog. Yeah. He's he's interesting. I like that he's an interesting guy. So the ayahuasca stuff, like, is not really for me, so but it's, it's a necessary part of understanding him. So here we go. But like going on a three day.
B
Ayahuasca trip, we go.
A
It's just like not my favorite sort of stuff to watch.
B
Understood.
A
Are you ready for our fifth and final story?
B
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A
It is.
B
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A
Lips are getting smaller and smaller.
B
So it's available in eight shades. Sweet lavender, which is like a sheer lavender perfect pink, which is a strawberry pink. On point, which is a cherry red. Don't be Chai, which is a soft shimmering nude. Velvet Crush, which is a mid tone nude brown. Kiss the Bride, which is a cool mauve nude. Feelin Spicy, which is a warm reddish brown. Very good for like fall vibes. And voted most popular, which is obviously named after me, which is a fuchsia pink. And so today we're gonna play a little would you rather game all about making bold choices. Just the bold color payoff that you get with Too Faced. Pumping clicks with every click you get vibrant pumping color that lasts. So Jackie would You rather with the theme of the on point shade. Would you rather always have your makeup on point or always have your hair on point?
A
I think makeup.
B
I think so too. Kiss the bride. Which is their shade? Would you rather attend a wedding for a friend that is local or one for a friend that is a destination.
A
Wedding at this today at this junction? Local wedding. Sounds pargy. I love the fun of a wedding. I'm not in a traveling state of mind.
B
In the spirit of make it spicy shade. Would you rather add spicy elements to a chili or a beef stew?
A
A chili.
B
I know a spicy beef stew sounds unique. Would you rather spend a quiet Sunday afternoon sipping chai tea and reading your favorite book or unwind with a hot cup of chai while watching your favorite TV show? So this really just depends on my mood.
A
Yeah, but I'm gonna go book. We're trying to read more this year. Chai tea and book. I love a chai tea. I feel like people don't know that about me.
B
Perfect pink. Would you rather wear the perfect pink flat or the perfect pink heel to dinner with friends? Dinner with friends.
A
Flat.
B
Yeah. Okay. I'm in agreement. Like flat. I'm with my friends. Who am I trying to impress, you know?
A
No, it takes a lot for me to wear a heel these days. Literally only Chisno.
B
Would you rather relax with a lavender scented bubble bath or enjoy a calming lavender face mask?
A
Maybe Bubble bath.
B
Maybe.
A
I'm gonna go bubble bath. What about you?
B
Bath. Obviously. Velvet crush. Would you rather wear a velvet dress or a velvet two piece set on a date night? Obviously they don't know us. We don't do two piece sets.
A
You guys like, I love a set, but in velvet. I guess in velvet. I'm gonna go dress. Actually, I couldn't see that. I couldn't see it working this set. Because then you get like velvet skin. Velvet.
B
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A
The fifth and final story. So Ben and JLO have settled their divorce and no one is paying spousal support. So Ben and jlo, I think we already knew this, but I was shocked once again. Did not have a prenup in this little trist of theirs. But they have settled their divorce like totally amicably. In a nutshell. They each walk away with what they have individually acquired during the marriage, the money Ben earned from his various movie projects is his. And the same goes for JLo, what she earned during their two year marriage. And neither will pay spousal support to one another. What is most notable though is that Ben started his very successful production company, artists equity in 2022 while he was married to Jlo. And he will be keeping all of that, even though she. Technically she could have. Yeah. But she didn't.
B
You're both so individually successful, like, it's. It's fine, you know?
A
Yeah, no, it's fine.
B
But you really just want to get out of the marriage and like put this chapter behind you. Like, you would go, right, but you.
A
Would think that that would happen more often. And like, because it's so amicable, it's like they must have had some sort of like unspoken prenup and they really trusted each other. And no one hurt the other badly enough to want to hurt them back.
B
No. And this is nice to hear. I was just watching a tick tock video. Apparently, like Halle Berry has like one of the worst track records for like spousal support and settlements that she's had to pay. She's been in four relationships, three of them marriages, but the fourth, she has a child with the person, so she pays child support and oh my God, this video was just breaking my heart. I'm surprised she doesn't work more. Like she needs, like, she's literally. She gave so much money in settlements to her ex husband, but what's the point in working alimony if you have.
A
To give it all away?
B
Devastating.
A
The more she works, the more she has to give.
B
My heart was breaking for her in this video. It was like an AI generated video. Do you know Halle Berry's crazy divorce? And I was like, no, I don't. Let's watch. And I agree. I'm shocked that this doesn't happen more within Hollywood where like marriage is sort of like this flimsy thing. Everybody has their own individual businesses, success. Like, yes, some people are way more wealthy than others. But with a marriage like this, a lot of people marry people who are like, of equal value. And so I'm surprised this doesn't happen more, especially if you just want to like not drag it through the courts, not go through mediation, like just by. Sometimes those celebrities marry nobodies, I. E. Harley Berry. Like people who don't even have jobs and then you're in trouble.
A
Yeah, no, I actually, I thought this was quite remarkable. It was mediated by Laura Wasser, who's like, the divorce Attorney to the Stars. However, it just seemed like she was also just spotted JLo going to Ben's house, like, hours before this. So everything is, like, really good. Why did they get married and why did they get divorced?
B
I don't know. This remains, like, one of the weirdest sagas. Like how he was engaged to her, married Jennifer Garner, divorce Jennifer Gardner, Mary.
A
Jlo divorced jlo, and now they're all best friends.
B
Yeah. And all their kids seem to, like, really get along and they seem to, like, have really good, like, step parent relationships. Like, even J. Lob, after being split from Ben, was spotted with some of Ben and Jen's kids. Which is weird because, like, you weren't a stepmom to them for that long. Like, you could move on.
A
No, it is extremely quizzling.
B
Yeah. In a good way. Like, this is nice, like, kind of sort of utopic utopian.
A
We're just using, like a bunch of words. I don't even know if quizzling is the right word. I feel like quizzling is not.
B
No, I feel like quizzling. Like, you mean like trader.
A
Collaborator?
B
No, like, you meant like puzzling. Yeah, puzzling.
A
Puzzling the source.
B
Finding the right words these days is just not my strong suit.
A
I know, but at least you have an excuse. Like, I really don't.
B
It's so true.
A
It's incredibly mystifying.
B
I love that.
A
Are you on.
B
Are you on thesaurus.com?
A
Yes. And I find it a bit unfathomable, if I'm being honest. How Bewind. Bewildering. This could all be bewildering.
B
That's a really good word here.
A
Yeah, it's pretty. Jackie.
B
I find it guffawing. I'm being honest.
A
I'm really perplexed.
B
Our show is not over yet because it is Tuesday, which these days means Dear Toasters, our weekly advice segment where you guys write in and we do our best to help you out with what you're going through. I will say, like, at the end of last year, I felt the girlies were going through a lot, but it's also the time of year. And I just want to say, based on the submissions that I read through this morning, like, the girlies are okay. They find themselves in, like, kind of funny. Like, pickles. Like, a lot of these made me chuckle. None of the circumstances are dire, and for that I think it's good we.
A
Needed a break because Dear Toasters takes a lot on us.
B
Not heavy.
A
We carry those loads.
B
So if you ever want to write in, it's Dear Toasters@gmail.com or head over to our website, TheToastPodcast.com. scroll down, there's a little submission box. Both ways are completely anonymous and we'd love to help you out. Hey, swirlies. The craziest thing happened to me. And am I okay? And am I in the wrong? I went out the night before Thanksgiving as usual, blacked out up. A guy who I've liked for a really long time and now is recently single, took me home from the bar by choice. Like, I was fine, and I was absolutely obliterated. I passed out in his bed, then threw up in my sleep. And obviously in his bed, he went nuts. He went off on me. He scream, texted me. I. He ordered an Uber using my Apple wallet. Sent me away by myself. I threw up in the Uber and the next morning he sent me a link to a remote that I threw up on and said, buy it. Am I crazy or is this man nuts? Sincerely, a toaster who had just had the spins and low key still has a crush.
A
Okay, so many things to say. First of all, even if he didn't act so horribly, like we're writing him off because he's a bad person, like, not compassionate whatsoever. Like, when this happens, it's really hard to come back from. So even if you still liked him and he handled it, like, kind of well, like, it's kind of hard for him to see you. You. Sometimes I remember, like, I heard some stories about, like, people like, oh, and they fell in love. Like, never happened. So it's.
B
It's true.
A
But now let's talk about the fact, like, run for your life. This man is a horrible person. Like, when you go to a bar and you bring home someone like, that is drunk, this is not out of the realm of possibility. People get sick.
B
Like, don't blackout Wednesday.
A
That is so crazy. I. Like, I don't even want you to buy the remote. But then, like, he's going to hate you forever. But, like, you need to.
B
Such a dick.
A
You need to hate him back. I hate him, to be clear.
B
Like, you throwing up in his bed and on his shit. Like, it's so annoying for him. Like, I'm sympathetic. Like, so you came to my house and you shit everywhere. Like, but I feel like this reminds me of the book. Do you ever read the Hating Game?
A
No.
B
So they're like these two co workers who hate each other and they're like, on, like, a company trip, and the girl gets really sick. Like, he's like, death story and the guy who, like, she hates is, like, so sweet and compassionate and, like, that's why she falls in love with them. Whatever. And, like, how people treat you when they're sick is, like, a real testament to, like, the type of people they are. And, like, obviously it's not always, you know, beautiful and comfortable when someone's sick. They're vomiting, sharding, whatever. And the fact that this guy's initial reaction was so nasty, like, this is not a compassionate person. This is not the type of person you want to be in a relationship with. So I think the fact that you still like him, like, you need to work that. Like, 1,000 to work on that.
A
And, like, he doesn't like you. He didn't take care of you. And worse than just, like, being, like. And not being, like, sweet about it, that he was mean about it. Like, it's not a nice person. That's not your person. So, like, you need to, like, actually forget him. Starting to get mad.
B
Like, no. Like, mean.
A
Yeah.
B
Yeah.
A
But, like, what? Don't even message him being mad, like, because mad requires, like, you need to, like, forget him.
B
Him ordering an Uber, like, and making you pay for it, like, and putting.
A
You in an Uber so drunk, like, that. Like, sick. And it's. It's just, like, that's bad. That's not a good guy.
B
Agreed. Agreed. And, you know, it's important to find the lesson, right?
A
I know. And I feel like sometimes when you're so close to it and, like, when you're in that stage of your life, like, you don't realize how serious these things are, and you're just like, oh, my God. I was drunk, and it was a, like, crazy thing that happened. But, like, us being, you know, the grannies, like, put you in danger. Look at this situation. Like, that's a bad situation.
B
Agree. And that's a bad guy.
A
I agree.
B
Hey, Swirly's major crisis situation. My boyfriend that's about to move in with me told me he snooped through my iPad and found text messages between me and my girlfriends where we were talking about guys I dated before and around the months that I first matched with my now boyfriend on Hinge. He asked me a ton of questions about it. It was seemingly fine. He said everything was fine and it should be, since we were not in a relationship at the time. But he then disclosed that he found old nudes of mine in my camera roll the next day, and I'm seriously pissed now. If I wanted him to see those photos, I would have sent them to him. I feel Like, a serious boundary has been crossed. While I was willing to forgive the text message snooping, but this seems to be on the verge of unforgivable. Am I overreacting? Help me. P.S. he did apologize and admit it was wrong to do, and he promised that it would never happen again. But how can I trust him now?
A
That's really icky.
B
Yeah. And like a. A man being mad at a girl for anything she did before they were in a relationship is actually psychotic behavior. Like, and I feel like it's a really big red flag.
A
Yeah.
B
Like, other, like, maybe problematic behavior down the line, like controlling or. Or freaky. And I don't like this man.
A
I know. And so, like, and who's two days.
B
In a row, like, chill now.
A
You need to evaluate other stuff about him because, as we always say, like, if this is the one wrong thing he did in a perfect person, everyone has a bad moment. It makes.
B
Of course.
A
But, like, this is just pointing to controlling behavior that someone who's, like, very not trusting and maybe he has a history of someone who was like, like, cheating on him. And so now he looks through her phone because paranoid. But that's his problems. And he can't be in a healthy relationship if he's going to be acting that way. And he's not healthy. So you really need to.
B
I also feel like he was, like, testing you a little bit. Like, you had this seemingly, like, innocuous conversation about, like, you know, old relationship. I don't know enough that they're about to move in together.
A
Right.
B
But it's like, how does the fact that iPad. The. The first conversation you had was about, like, you know, nothing. You didn't do anything wrong. Right. Like, I feel like he was, like, testing you. And the fact that, like, he sort of got away with snooping. He then the next day, like, took it to. He feels like he's kind of, like, advancing in his craziness. And I don't know. I don't know if I want to stick around to see what happens next.
A
Yeah. It does not bode well.
B
Yeah.
A
And like, if you guys are moving in together, say you've been dating, like, some. He's looking back at texts from. And pictures from, like, over a year, over two years. What?
B
Yeah. Agree.
A
It's a crazy person.
B
It's crazy behavior.
A
What led him to do that, like, craziness in his own mind.
B
And I also feel like how you react to the snooping will set the tone for any future snooping. So I would have, like, a strong.
A
Reaction to This I would like, stop the lease. Rip it up.
B
Agreed. And also, I won't live with someone.
A
Who doesn't trust me and violates my privacy.
B
This is a person who like, you're intimate with and like obviously has seen you naked. Like it's still such an invasion of privacy to like go through someone's nudes, even if it's like someone you have sex with every day.
A
Rip up the lease.
B
Agreed. This third and final two toasters, like actually made me chuckle.
A
Okay, finally.
B
Hey girls. Help. I just broke up with a boy I was dating for three months. As I'm breaking up with him, he bursts into tears saying I'm ruining his life. And I come to find out he has delayed his graduation to stay in town with me. He has a frickin engagement ring and put down a down payment on a wedding venue that his whole family gets married at. Like, he's obviously crazy, but I just feel really bad and his family is now blowing up my phone. What do I do?
A
You run. You run so fast, you get on your running sneakers and you start running like the engagement. Who gets engaged? Married three months, you didn't even like him. So he thought all of that was happening with him. Engagement worthy when the energy you were giving him was impending breakup. Run.
B
Don't feel him in.
A
Feel glad that you just had a hunch and broke up with this guy and it turned out he's a crazy person.
B
Bullet dodge. Like sometimes when you break up with somebody after a long time and like their mom calls you, like that's actually. It's weird. It's not inappropriate and depending on the relationship, but seriously, like family members of a guy who you dated for three months calling you, not only is he crazy, he actually comes from a crazy family and crazy stock. You need to actually like thank your lucky stars because like that could have been your family.
A
Yeah, like you walked away from the relationship. Start running.
B
Oh my God. Chuckle. See, I told you the girls are okay. Like they're okay.
A
Yeah, I don't know. The first two like made me sad.
B
Dear toasters, gmail.com, that's the email you can write in. I'm off to get my coccydinia healed, so maybe by the time you see me tomorrow, even though I think today's just like a consultation, I might be a different person.
A
You never know.
B
I might get rid of this pillow.
A
Wow. I got rid of mine. I just didn't bring it back after the break. And even though the pillow was never really helping me, it's just like something squishy to sit on. Always nice.
B
Always nice.
A
It wasn't curing anything.
B
Thank you guys so much for listening to the Trust in Monday morning show. We deliver the fastest series you need to everybody The Friday on YouTube. If you're watching us on YouTube, please feel free to subscribe and give us video. Thumbs up. Rossel Villas podcasts and web podcast be found at Spotify2Sister Popcorn Podcasts. We are.
A
Love ya. Bye. Hit him with the heart, Turdy. One more try. One more try. Do something different. I'm doing something different.
B
Me too.
A
Oh, no. This feels so wrong.
B
Definitely not.
A
Worst ever.
B
Bye.
Podcast Summary: The Toast – "Tick Tock, TikTok: Tuesday, January 7th, 2025"
Episode Information:
In this lively episode of The Toast, Jackie and Claudia Oshry delve into a mix of personal anecdotes, nostalgic reflections, and the latest celebrity news. The hosts maintain their signature banter, balancing humor with insightful commentary, creating an engaging experience for listeners.
Claudia's Journey with Coccydinia: Claudia opens up about her recent diagnosis of coccydinia, a condition affecting her tailbone, exacerbated by her pregnancy. She shares her struggles and the limited healing options available due to her pregnancy, stating:
"Today I have finally decided to take control of my body and my future and seek out some help with my coccydinia." [04:33]
Jackie's Relief from Sciatica: Jackie discusses her long battle with sciatica and her recent improvement after incorporating magnesium into her nightly routine:
"I remember feeling the feeling, like, right after I had Charlie and I started to do a little digging, and one of the notes said, like, magnesium can help. I've started taking magnesium at night. You guys, I'm cured." [05:02]
Claudia acknowledges her ongoing challenges and their impact on her daily life, highlighting the communal nature of their podcast:
"He doesn't have a thing on coccydinia." [05:24]
Creating Snow Days with Margo: Claudia reminisces about her childhood rituals with her sister Margo, where they believed that singing and dancing could influence the weather, particularly to create snow days:
"We would wake up the next day. I was like, what’s the success rate? Like, maybe once. And we thought it worked." [07:23]
Jackie adds her own childhood gaming experiences, emphasizing the universal nature of childhood creativity:
"We were really into gymnastics, but were those kids. Let's not forget our favorite game, pag." [10:46]
Evolution of Television: The hosts discuss how television has evolved from their childhood, noting the shift from small monitors to large, immersive screens and its impact on viewing habits:
"TV in your room was the size of a computer monitor, like a laptop. And you were so far away, like you weren't, like, zoned in on it the way that people sit in front of, like, a huge screen these days." [13:25]
Claudia reflects on the influence of television on their careers and personalities, acknowledging the role of media in shaping modern entertainment:
"How you did, like, tap into stress and mental health through the roof." [14:28]
Jackie and Claudia celebrate the public appearance of Hugh Jackman and Sutton Foster, interpreting their coordinated presence as a sign of a serious and healthy relationship:
"The fact that they're choosing to share this because it's clearly a staged photo makes me think that the relationship's in, like, a really healthy place." [24:06]
The hosts analyze a viral video where Demi Moore appears to ignore Kylie Jenner during a Golden Globes event. They debunk the notion of intentional snubbing, suggesting it was likely an oversight due to the event's chaos:
"Claudia felt snubbed and she, like, turns around and picks up her camera. Like, I just know anyone who hurts Kylie, like, hurts me." [30:04]
Claudia shares a personal encounter with Demi Moore, highlighting Demi’s genuine and kind nature:
"She was so excited about her win, and it's this big night for her, and she ran into this girl that she loves." [33:39]
The episode reveals the engagement news of Zendaya and Tom Holland, sourced from People magazine. The hosts discuss the couple's private nature and speculate on the future of their relationship:
"They are engaged? A family source confirmed to People." [37:15]
Jackie expresses excitement for the couple’s private wedding plans:
"But like, you're getting married, so you want a wedding dress. Of course. You want the best, nicest dress made by Christian Dior himself." [40:05]
Claudia reports on Kevin O’Leary’s interest in purchasing TikTok amidst looming bans in the U.S., discussing the implications for the app's future:
"Shark tanks Kevin O'Leary says that he's nearing a deal to buy TikTok." [41:53]
Both hosts contemplate the ramifications of the acquisition and the potential for TikTok to remain operational under new ownership:
"I nominate Kevin O'Leary. If Kevin O'Leary buys TikTok, I will join." [43:09]
Jackie and Claudia discuss the amicable settlement of Ben Affleck and Jennifer Lopez’s divorce, highlighting how both parties have maintained their individual successes without financial entanglements:
"They each walk away with what they have individually acquired during the marriage... and neither will pay spousal support to one another." [54:05]
Claudia reflects on the rarity of such peaceful divorces in Hollywood:
"This is nice to hear... extremely bewildering." [56:39]
In the final segment, Jackie and Claudia address listener-submitted relationship dilemmas with their characteristic candor and empathy.
Case 1: Dealing with a Drunk Date’s Hostility A listener describes being mistreated after a blackout-induced night with a crush. The hosts unanimously condemn the man’s behavior, emphasizing the importance of self-respect and setting boundaries:
"You need to hate him back. You need to find the lesson." [59:12]
Case 2: Partner Snooping and Privacy Violations Another listener faces a breach of privacy as her boyfriend snoops through her personal messages and photos. Jackie and Claudia label this as a red flag, advising the listener to reassess the relationship’s viability:
"This is psychotic behavior... That's a big red flag." [60:14]
Case 3: Aggressive Breakup Reactions A third listener struggles with an ex-boyfriend’s over-the-top reaction to a breakup. The hosts encourage immediate disengagement and reinforce the importance of personal safety and emotional well-being:
"You need to, like, actually forget him. Starting to get mad." [60:53]
Claudia compiles their collective advice, stressing the necessity of recognizing unhealthy behaviors and taking decisive action to protect oneself.
Claudia on Coccydinia:
"Today I have finally decided to take control of my body and my future and seek out some help with my coccydinia." [04:33]
Jackie on Magnesium and Sciatica:
"I've started taking magnesium at night. You guys, I'm cured." [05:02]
Claudia on Childhood Snow Dances:
"We thought that if we made up this song and we sang it and did this, like, special dance, that it would in turn create a snow day." [07:23]
Discussion on Demi Moore and Kylie Jenner:
"Claudia felt snubbed and she, like, turns around and picks up her camera. Like, I just know anyone who hurts Kylie, like, hurts me." [30:04]
Claudia on Zendaya and Tom Holland Engagement:
"They are engaged? A family source confirmed to People." [37:15]
Jackie on Kevin O’Leary and TikTok:
"I nominate Kevin O'Leary. If Kevin O'Leary buys TikTok, I will join." [43:09]
Claudia on Ben Affleck and Jennifer Lopez Divorce:
"This is nice to hear... extremely bewildering." [56:39]
In this episode of The Toast, Jackie and Claudia Oshry seamlessly blend personal narratives with sharp commentary on celebrity culture and current events. Their authentic conversation, punctuated by humorous exchanges and heartfelt advice, provides both entertainment and relatability. Whether discussing health challenges, nostalgic memories, or navigating the complexities of relationships, the hosts offer a comprehensive and engaging summary of life’s ups and downs, making this episode a must-listen for both loyal fans and newcomers alike.