Tiny Violins: Wednesday, January 21st, 2026

Summary

The Toast — “Tiny Violins”

Hosts: Jackie & Claudia Oshry
Date: Wednesday, January 21st, 2026

Episode Overview

In today’s “Tiny Violins” episode, Jackie and Claudia Oshry deliver their signature blend of pop culture gossip, spirited debate, and unfiltered opinions. The main focus is a deep dive into the recent legal drama surrounding Blake Lively, Justin Baldoni, and leaked text messages implicating Taylor Swift and Blake. The sisters also discuss the latest on the Beckham-Peltz family feud, celebrity news (including Margot Robbie & Jacob Elordi’s surprising on-set bond, and Taylor Swift and Travis Kelce wedding rumors), and recap the Razzie nominations. As always, they finish with their “Dear Toasters” advice segment, fielding listeners’ questions on tricky life scenarios.

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Major Discussion Points & Insights

1. Ongoing Beckham-Peltz Family Feud ([01:27]–[05:05])

• The fallout from Brooklyn Beckham’s public airing of family issues is still reverberating.
• Victoria Beckham’s recent Instagram activity—a mix of subtle shade and overt family support—was dissected.
• Nicola Peltz’s ambiguous, no-caption posts and their possible motives were discussed.
• Jackie: “I’m never going to side with the person who airs family laundry.”

Speculative Insight:
A theory (attributed to Susie Weiss) suggests Brooklyn and Nicola may be expecting a child, based on Brooklyn's repeated references to “future children” in the drama. Jackie & Claudia note the timing may have heightened Brooklyn’s protectiveness.

Key quote ([03:35], Claudia):
"He's a young boy, perhaps on the brink of fatherhood for the first time, and that can send you into a really overprotective overdrive."

2. Blake Lively vs. Justin Baldoni Legal Drama & Leaked Texts ([05:05]–[30:17])

The Leaks:

• Unredacted text messages and emails from Blake Lively, Taylor Swift, Ryan Reynolds, Matt Damon, Ben Affleck, and others were revealed as part of ongoing legal proceedings.
• A Taylor Swift text referring to Baldoni “getting out his tiny violin” became a viral focus, with fans speculating about its connection to Taylor’s song “CANCELED.”
• Jackie and Claudia dismiss the theory, noting “tiny violin” is simply Taylor’s term for victim-playing, not proof of the song’s subject.

Key quote ([17:00], Claudia quoting Taylor):
"I think this b*tch knows something is coming because he's gotten out his tiny violin."

Blake’s Outreach:

• Blake reached out to Matt Damon, Ben Affleck, and others for input on her edit of the film, describing Baldoni as “a crazy person” and criticizing his inexperience.
• She lobbied for an executive producer credit, documenting all her efforts in a lengthy, impassioned email to the Producers Guild.

Perception & Fallout:

• Claudia: The public is focusing on how “cringe” Blake comes off, while more serious HR allegations against Baldoni (testimony from Jenny Slate, the actress playing young Blake, and others) are being downplayed.
• Taylor & Blake were “so in it together” in the texts, making their apparent friendship fallout even more notable.
• Jackie: “Blake's crime, once again, is being cringe and weird. But the heart of the matter is actually the creepy allegations about Baldoni.”

Important Legal Detail:

• Whether Blake’s letter to the Producers Guild (detailing her producer-like responsibilities) ends up undermining her own lawsuit, since it supports arguments she was not an employee.

Cultural Commentary:

• They touch on the risks of putting workplace drama in writing, noting unease at private messages being litigated so publicly.

Key quote ([21:33], Claudia):
"It's made me think twice about helping my friend out with her workplace drama. You can't even talk sh*t in peace anymore."

Careers on the Brink:

• Both hosts agree Blake Lively’s reputation is at more risk than Baldoni’s, but Hollywood can be surprisingly forgiving if the right person advocates for a comeback.

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3. Razzie Nominations Recap ([30:23]–[37:19])

• Jackie and Claudia walk through the Golden Raspberry Award nominations for “worst” films and acting performances.
• Major films nominated: "Snow White," "The Electric State," "Hurry Up Tomorrow," with specific callouts for actors like Ben Platt, Ice Cube, and Natalie Portman.
• They critique the Razzies as increasingly irrelevant since nominated films are so obscure, and advocate for the awards to modernize by including streaming content and TV.

Memorable moment ([33:37], Claudia):
"Chrissy Teigen, you can come back for anything, Koji. It's so true... she was everywhere."

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4. Margot Robbie & Jacob Elordi's “Codependency” ([38:44]–[43:35])

• Discuss Margot Robbie’s comments on becoming “codependent” with Jacob Elordi during filming.
• Both hosts are skeptical of actors who normalize intense on-set bonds, considering it inappropriate given their off-set relationships.

Key quote ([40:20], Jackie):
"This is not how co-workers talk about one another. This is such an HR violation. Where's Blake Lively?"

• Debate about actors who take moral stances on on-screen intimacy (George Clooney’s “no more kissing girls” decree).

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5. Taylor Swift & Travis Kelce Wedding Rumors ([50:08]–[54:32])

• The hosts address Page Six reports on Taylor and Travis’s supposed relationship hurdles—including his possible NFL retirement and their wedding plans.
• Both hosts express skepticism, doubting a real breakup, but discuss the transition challenges facing pro athletes.

Key quote ([50:50], Claudia):
"It is a lot of change. Athletes always struggle when they retire. It’s a challenge for even the strongest relationship."

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6. Alex Earle, Tom Brady, and Sports Tangents ([55:05]–[61:46])

• Claudia “predicts” the potential connection between influencer Alex Earle and Tom Brady, joking about her psychic abilities based on an old episode.
• Friendly banter on unexpected football teams in the playoffs and the script-like feel to the NFL this season.

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7. Dear Toasters: Advice Segment ([62:09]–[72:09])

Advice Highlights:

• Toxic Mother-in-Law: A mother-in-law gives her son a “push present” for doing “so much” during childbirth. Both hosts are aghast; husband should diplomatically decline and support his wife.
  • Key quote ([63:58], Jackie): "Babies give you love, but they also give you power, because everyone wants to see the baby."
• Boyfriend Over Money: Listener borrowed cash from boyfriend and forgot to pay back. Boyfriend was upset; Jackie and Claudia call him ungenerous, urging a conversation about reciprocity and generosity in relationships.
• Fiancé Licking Fingers: Fiancé’s gross habit of licking fingers after eating; hosts say it’s reasonable to be repulsed and recommend a firm conversation or even requiring gloves—a humorous “no glove, no love” policy.

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• “I just love spirited debate… although the deeper we get into this, it’s unbelievably tragic.” (Claudia, [01:27])
• On leaked texts:
  "It's such an invasion. It's insane." (Claudia, [21:14])
• On Razzies irrelevance:
  "Not only have I not seen these pictures, I have not heard of them. It’s more fun when they swing at something up for an Oscar." (Jackie, [36:28])
• On Margot Robbie’s codependency:
  "Where are the actors who treat their job like a job and then go home to a loving family?" (Claudia, [40:28])
• Fan service segment:
  "If you have the opportunity to share a film set with Margot Robbie, you're going to make sure you're within 5 to 10 meters at all times." (Jacob Elordi, as quoted by the hosts, [40:01])

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Beckham-Peltz family drama: [01:27]–[05:05]
• Blake Lively vs. Justin Baldoni legal scandal: [05:05]–[30:17]
• Razzies Nominations Recap: [30:23]–[37:19]
• Margot Robbie/Jacob Elordi story: [38:44]–[43:35]
• Taylor Swift & Travis Kelce rumors: [50:08]–[54:32]
• Alex Earle/Tom Brady/Sports banter: [55:05]–[61:46]
• Dear Toasters (Advice): [62:09]–[72:09]

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Episode Summary

This is a classic “The Toast” episode: irreverent, gossipy, and context-rich for internet-centric pop culture. Jackie and Claudia skillfully weave together tabloid updates (with their own hot takes), feminism, a running commentary on how celebrity careers rise and fall, the realities of adult friendships, and the social intricacies of relationships, family, and “toxic” in-laws. The tone is playful, occasionally exasperated, but always grounded in the sisters’ unique chemistry and honesty.

For listeners wanting celebrity context, meme-able sound bites, and candid relationship advice—this episode delivers it all in typically “swirly girly” Toast style.

Transcript

[A]

Good morning, girlies. It's the toast.

[B]

It's Jackson Claude and we're your host.

[A]

It's your favorite show, the best five things you need to know. We'll start your day off swirly. It's the toast.

[B]

They sound amazing.

[A]

Welcome back to the toast and happy Wednesday.

[B]

What a weird week. Not complaining.

[A]

No. Thank you to Martin Luther. Happy Wednesday, Jackie. It's hump day. A very special day of the week here. How you doing?

[B]

I'm doing good. My morning was all far clemmed because last night I like, spilled all over my makeup. I had to wash my makeup brushes. They were like, still a little damp this morning and it was just a clusterfuck. And we're interviewing someone today for tomorrow's episode. Not to like, tease, but there's a.

[A]

Lot at stake visually today.

[B]

There's a lot at stake visually today. And I was like, of course, today when there's a lot at seek visually. My bronzer brush is a little damp.

[A]

You know, like, just a quick fix. Had you called your sister? Turdi, Just run it under the blow dryer. It'll be dry in 10 seconds.

[B]

Oh, true. I was sitting there with my blow dryer, but I had this new little nifty machine, so I just, like, kept running it in the dry cycle. Didn't work, but.

[A]

Yeah, well, if you were to ever just call me, work slowly, your life would be better.

[B]

I couldn't call you because I couldn't talk. Because there was like a sleeping baby. It was just a lot. There was a lot going on.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

So happy to be here. Wednesday tings. The news keeps newsing.

[A]

The news keeps newsing. Kind of a bombshell episode yesterday, of course, you know, a myriad of reflections from people, feedback. Good, bad. I disagree. Team Brooklyn. Team whatever. And I just love spirited debate, I do about nonsensical things. Although, like, the deeper we get into this, it's really not nonsensical. It's unbelievably tragic.

[B]

No, we were talking last night. It's making me sick for Victoria. Like, I'm sick for her.

[A]

Victoria posted three Instagram stories this morning.

[B]

No. And Nicola keeps posting nonsense. Like, no caption. Just like her and a pair of sweatpants. Like race fading.

[A]

Yeah, well, you know, it is a good time for engagement. She posted it's Emma's birthday, Baby Spice. So she posted, happy birthday, Victoria. Yeah, Happy birthday, Baby Spice. And then like an old reel, like a clip from one of their music videos. And then her third was supporting Cruz or Romeo. I forget which one it was. I think he's like a performer and he had a performance sellout. So she posted the poster because she.

[B]

Does support her family members.

[A]

So proud of you at cruise.

[B]

Well, that's giving like what you said is a lie because I support my children.

[A]

Right. It was like a little heavy handed.

[B]

Well, I'm just sick for her. Like, imagine like the person who's like making your life a misery, who you're like feuding, beefing within the public, like is your own child, so you can't even really root against them.

[A]

Right. Of course.

[B]

You know what I mean? Like, you don't want to see someone talking, like, Right. Clowning on your child.

[A]

But then there's also now like AI generated sexually suggestive content about you. I like, posted one and I thought it was funny. And then I saw them getting like progressively more graphic and I was like, wait, this actually isn't funny. So it's like people are making sexually explicit content about your mom and who's faulted it? Is it. It's kind of yours. It's just actually a really complicated.

[B]

I haven't seen anything like, super inappropriate. The ones I've seen so far have been really funny. It's like AI generated videos of the way that Victoria was probably dancing at the wedding. And it's like silly and it's like the break dancer from the Olympics. Like, that's all funny and good.

[A]

Yeah, I saw them like, you know, getting more, you know, suggestive and like tighter clothes.

[B]

Well, that's what he had said, correct?

[A]

The. The.

[B]

What insinuation.

[A]

That's my girl. I was gonna say the impression, but that's not right. The insinuation was. Was made by, by one Brooklyn Beckham Pelts. Excuse me.

[B]

Yeah, so it's honestly sad and like, I know a lot of people are on Brooklyn side and I understand when you like lay. When you look at it, it's like, how could you be toxic, Mother? I'm just like, I'm never going to side with that person who does that.

[A]

That's exactly, exactly my. You know that someone who's airing the family laundry. Barring anything absolutely crazy and disgusting happening, I'm never going to be on your side. And you know, I was chatting with a friend of mine who had a really interesting theory. I want to give credit but like, what's the problem? Okay, like, just in case this theory is true, like, it was from Susie Weiss. She had a good theory because we were like gossiping about it. And I. She's someone whose opinion I respect. She's Also a very family oriented person. So I'm like, what do you make of it? She said, you know, I feel like maybe Nicola could be pregnant.

[B]

I had that thought too, because he mentioned our future children twice.

[A]

And, like, this is such a fiercely protective thing of Brooklyn to do for his wife. You know, it seems like it's been a really bad situation for a long time. But, like, why now? Why this Instagram story?

[B]

Like, what was the boiling point that he had to put his foot down? Like, it's been rather quiet and, you.

[A]

Know, he's a young boy, perhaps on the brink of fatherhood for the first time, and that can send you into, like, a really overprotective overdrive. So that was Susie's thought, which I actually thought was quite poignant. Yeah, there's potential.

[B]

You know, I thought the same when he talked about their future children, that there's, you know, maybe they're thinking about children, but I don't think she's pregnant.

[A]

Yeah. So all that to say, we will of course, continue to be speaking, but.

[B]

I wouldn't speculate on women's pregnancy or a body.

[A]

There's also lots of Justin Baltoni, Blake Lively News. I feel like they've been kind of quiet. Things have been coming out over the last couple of months. Nothing worth reporting on. And I feel like it's just like, for the people who are really obsessed with it. But so much the unredacted Taylor Swift text messages came out, the unredactive Ben Affleck emails, the unredacted group chat between Blake Lively, Ryan Reynolds and Matt Damon and his wife, like, and shout out to the girls on TikTok because Jackie was like, who has time to read all these text messages? I'm like, certainly not me.

[B]

I want to see a screenshot of the text.

[A]

I know, but it's not a court document, right?

[B]

It's like, all transcribed and written out in paragraphs. Like, I need to see the text. That's how I can process texts.

[A]

When I was getting my makeup done this morning, like, the girls on TikTok who are obsessed, they put their own spin on it and they all hate Blake Lively. So I was just trying to be unbiased, listening. When I was doing my makeup, I put the TikTok on and they read me all the text messages, which was so delightful. So I read the ones between Blake and Taylor and they are exactly what you think they are. Like two feminist women like that. How you think Blake and Taylor talk to one another is how they. I'm your khaleesi. You're my dragon. Like, so, like, you could say what you want about the two of them. They are who they are. Like, it's so authentic. Then I read the group text between Lucy and Matt Damon with Blake and Ryan. Then I read this kind of email that Blake wrote to Matt, Ben Affleck. And then also, like, this letter that she wrote to the Producers Guild, which is kind of.

[B]

What did she write to Ben Affleck?

[A]

So at this stage, a lot of the documents that were being. Is this a story? Like, yes.

[B]

Okay, so we get into the story.

[A]

Wait, I watched the first episode of Tell Me Lies.

[B]

Okay, we're going to talk about Tell Me Lies.

[A]

I'm putting in the work, and I just told Ben because what's been holding me back, obviously, is, like, my will to watch it, but also, like, I get into bed here, like, oh, is that my nanit? I'm sorry. The nanit is always on. I'm so sorry. Wait, it's not even on. That's crazy. Hold on. Everyone be quiet. Oh, hi, sweetie. Okay, sorry about that. Nap time. I watched the first episode of Tell Me Lies, and what was holding me back was obviously, like, I really was, like, not in the mood to watch it because it gives me terrible anxiety. But also, like, I'm just kind of stuck with this hanger on her bet. He's like, what are we watching?

[B]

I'm like, where Watch season three of Tell Me Lies.

[A]

So we were, like, scrolling last night trying to watch something, and I'm like, listen, just pay attention. We're watching episode three. Like, season three, episode one. We watched the intro previously on. And there was so much to catch up on. He was so lost.

[B]

I wouldn't expect him to be found. Like, he just has to sort of resign to the fact that he's not gonna get it. And he can scroll on his phone.

[A]

That's exactly what he ended up doing. And then we ended up watching Martha after. For him. I watched one episode.

[B]

That's compromise. That's marriage.

[A]

I'm getting caught up. I'm putting in the work. And I just want to say, like, this show, it gives me such bad anxiety.

[B]

Especially, it gives me too. But in, like, a good way of, like, I feel something. Like, because I'm on the edge of my seat and I'm. I'm in it. I'm enraptured. Whereas, like, we can't get off our phones on other shows. Like, and it's really hard for me to care about, like, fictional TV show. Like, it's just made up shit.

[A]

Yeah. Right.

[B]

So, like, I like that this show immerses me and that I care because all the only other stuff I watch is reality.

[A]

Yes. And so I. I only watched first episode, but I'm putting in the work. We're talking a little bit about Tommy Lies. Anything else you want to chit chat about? A little pre. Pffb.

[B]

I've been reading for the redheads. We're reading this, like, new buzzy book, Wild Dork Shore or whatever miserable book. And I'm like 50% in. And I'm really excited for the episode.

[A]

Because the worse the book, the better the episode.

[B]

I don't think it's a bad book. Everyone loves it. It's Reese's. It's like the Crawdads. And I do feel like it's trying to be crawdads. And I'm just like, you guys, why are you reading this? Like, when you could be reading Confessions of a Shopaholic and you would choose to read this. The Nightingale, you would choose to read something like this.

[A]

You know, when Elle was on the red carpet, actually, somebody asked her about the Nightingale. Someone who's obviously doing good work, I want to say, was Zuri hall being like, what's. What's going on? And she said she's so excited. And it's on. It's on its way, allegedly.

[B]

And they're also being the Hilton sisters. Ellen, Dakota. Yeah. Shout out in a movie about their lives.

[A]

Oh, I love that.

[B]

I wonder which one's coming first. I feel like different projects. I feel like the Hilton one. I've heard more about it.

[A]

That's great. I love that.

[B]

Yeah. We don't know who's playing who, though.

[A]

Well, Dakota's kind of always been the Paris, even though Elle is so having a moment. Also, I think I heard that Elle was older than Dakota, and it just, like, made no sense to me.

[B]

No, she's definitely not.

[A]

I know. That's what I said.

[B]

She's definitely not.

[A]

But okay, who's older? Dakota or Elle Fanning? Needs not said Dakota is older than Elle. So obviously where I heard that was wrong.

[B]

Or you just are recalling improperly, you know, maybe different siblings that you would think one's older.

[A]

Unlikely. Maybe it was about, like, Elizabeth and Mary Kate Olson, you know, for sure. Because one thing about me, like, I know. I know all the players, but the way that Dakota and Elle Fanning, like El Fanning is Elizabeth Olsen. Yeah. Okay. I'm glad you agree.

[B]

Yeah. I don't think that's like Controversial? No, not at all.

[A]

I think it is.

[B]

Yeah. No. People are going to be offended.

[A]

Is it like an insane take?

[B]

Well, let's get into the stories because as we said, there's a lot to talk about. We're also doing Dear Toasters today, as.

[A]

Promised, the DTQ will be fed. And I would like to thank the Dear Toasters community for like, you know.

[B]

Keeping it in their pants. Yeah. What's the word for like, sitting on their hands? No, no. Like where you like controlling themselves.

[A]

Let me just explain what I'm looking for first. Like, not giving into temptation, where you're like, not withholding, but like willpower. No. What is it like for like a. For lack. For like controlling themselves, but like in a more sophisticated way.

[B]

What you say poure. No.

[A]

All right, whatever. For acting normal. I saw like. I saw like one hate comment from the dtq. For the most part, I feel like the DTQ understood.

[B]

I really think, like, aside from that one person, nobody yesterday was like, what about.

[A]

No, because the bpq greater than the dtq. The Beckham Peltz community.

[B]

Yeah. And the Kyle and Amanda community you wrecked. So now, without further ado, to do to do it is time for the Fast 5 stories that you to do need to know.

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Our first story, Taylor Swift allegedly called Justin Baldoni a with a tiny violin and text to Blake Lively. As legal docs show conversations between Lively and friends. So there's a lot v Baldoni.

[A]

Now the headline that people are running with artists like, well, the song canceled is now confirmed about Blake Lively. And it's like, my God, people are so dense. Like in their text messages they're talking extensively. Taylor was like, this is her best friend. Her best friend's going through this like major thing.

[B]

And what is Taylor going? What is the Blake going through in this moment of texting?

[A]

Okay, so in this moment of texting, it's about this edit. So apparently Justin Baldoni was editing the movie for like months. And Blake like hated him and hated everything that he did in the studio, I guess hated it too, because they were like, blake, you can come up with your own pass. She had 10 or 12 days to edit the entire movie. And they were going to show it to two different focus groups. We know that they did. And Justin's version one. And they're talking about the edit and like where to use Taylor's music. And Taylor is like, well, I'm your ally. And he, you know, he shouldn't use the music. Like they're so in it together until. And I guess some stuff had started to come out in the press because Taylor said, you know, obviously he's like gone into like offensive mode being like a little bitch. Like they are so in the way.

[B]

She said, I think this bitch knows something is coming because he's gotten out his tiny violin.

[A]

And so now everyone's like, well, tiny violin is a lyric in canceled. Did you bring a tiny violin to a knife fight? And it's like. Do you think Taylor was referencing her own personal text messages?

[B]

No, but that's just how she speaks about people who play the victim. Then.

[A]

Yes, that could be anyone. Yeah, I don't think at all this is a confirmation that this song is about.

[B]

No, I agree.

[A]

Because also as far as we know, her and Blake aren't friends anymore. So the song wouldn't make any sense because she says she likes her friends. Canceled.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So I never thought the song was about Blake Lively.

[B]

And to be honest, it would be about Justin Baldoni actually. He's the one with a tiny violin here. But I think that's just like a term she uses when is playing the victim.

[A]

It's a good term.

[B]

It is a good term.

[A]

That's like whatever. That's what all. Everyone's tagging me and I'm like, there's so much more interesting stuff here there to me, there's two things. One that everyone's talking about, which is like just the high level of cringe of Blake Lively in this moment. So she has her edit. She has 10 days to make an edit. So she reaches out to Matt Damon and Blake and Ben Affleck. They started artist equity. They're huge filmmakers. Like they know everything. So she was asking them both individually to watch her version. And there's like this program obviously like people use it's pics. She's like, I'll give you my login. Call me for the one time passcode. So the. The thread between her and the demons was released and they're like, yeah, sure, we'll watch it. She was like, your kids can watch it if they like the book. Just know it talks about domestic violence. Here, I'll give you my code. Here's what's been going on. This filmmaker slash producer slash financer is a crazy person. He's in a cult. He asked. They're talking about how, you know, he called Blake's trainer and asked how much she weighed two weeks after giving birth because he has low bone density and he needs to be in shape to lift her. And so they're just telling Matt and Lucy, and Matt, Lucy are like, wow, this is crazy.

[B]

Oh, also, that's great to know how Blake sees it. Like, just straight up without legal docs, like, what was going on and how she described the situation. That's really helpful.

[A]

And then she sort of wrote similarly to we don't know what. Ben Affleck responded because she just wrote this long, really cringey email like, oh, hope you're doing well. If you got to the end of this email, oh, my God, you're such a good friend. Like, really, like, just exactly what you would think she talks like is how she talks. So she was reaching out to people in her life who she clearly was close with, like, or is close with because she felt comfortable ask them to watch a movie, which I guess maybe Matt Damon and. And Ben Affleck get asked a lot. But it did seem like a big ask. Like, she was like, I'm not sure if you know, like, about this. It's been, like, the nightmare of my life.

[B]

And here, yada, yada, it is a big ask. But if you're friends and this is your specialty, like, I would. If my close friend was launching a podcast, I would listen to the first episode and give you my thoughts.

[A]

It was clear that Blake really wanted her edit to win.

[B]

Right. She was in her arsenal and still lost. Yeah.

[A]

Now that is what everyone's talking about. Although I feel like, of course, like, I do think that things are so slanted when it comes to this, because no one's really also talking about that. In everything that's been released, there's now, like, two other female co stars who did testify that Jesse Baldoni was inappropriate. We know Jenny Slate. And then her text message was released being like, he is the most crazy, intense narcissist. I cannot wait for this project to be over. He is so creepy and weird. And then the actress who plays little Blake said that. That in the scene where she loses her virginity to Atlas, like, the throwback scene. He, like, ended it and said to her, like, that was really hot. Even though it's a scene where, like, she's losing her virginity, like, this homeless kid. Like, it's, like, not a hot scene. Like, it's like, it's like, it's. It's like a deep scene. It's not hot.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Like, it's not meant to be hot.

[B]

Yeah. It's emotional.

[A]

Right. So things are being like, there's so much more things for Blake, and her crime, once again, is being cringe and, like, being weird. I don't find anything that has been released yet to be. Oh, we need to talk about the Producers Guild. Okay, so.

[B]

So who released these text messages? Who did? What does it prove?

[A]

It's unredacted. It's not released. It's not released. It's not public information. Like, the trial is starting.

[B]

But whose side does this prove?

[A]

It depends who you want, whose side you're on and who you want to argue.

[B]

Like, what does this prove?

[A]

I don't know. It's also just the text messages are so personal. I don't 100 see how they're relevant. Like, it just makes you, like, really? And I saw this girl on TikTok, and it's so true. She's like, this is a reminder, like, not to put shit in writing. Like, you think you're just helping your friend out with her work issue and now you're in court.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

It's insane. It's such an invasion. It is.

[B]

It's messed up.

[A]

It's like, not Lucy Damon.

[B]

Like, she was just, like, being a.

[A]

Supportive of a friend.

[B]

I don't want to hear your voice notes. And I feel self conscious when I'm leaving them because I just don't feel like they're at the level of entertainment that a voice note should be at. Like, maybe we should be leaving more voice notes.

[A]

It's definitely made me think twice about, like, helping my friend out with her workplace drama.

[B]

Or maybe we need, like, an app where.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

It's just not like it's just because you can't even talk shit in peace. So not like it's like you're not even doing anything criminal. You just want to talk shit in peace.

[A]

The Producers Guild letter, which is really, like. It's an insane letter again. Like, you can see how she speaks, and she's just like, a really impassioned, cringy, like, feminist. And, like, how she talks is how she talks. So she writes this letter to the Production Guild association, basically being like, here's a list of all the things I've done for this project because it's a cluster and nobody here knows what they're doing. And the writer, producer, director, financier is a first time at all this, and he knows nothing and he's an idiot. And I'm smart. I'm big. You're small. I'm dumb. So she lists out all the things that she writes. This, like, precursor to the list being like, I am impassioned woman owner. And all of this, I think in an attempt to get a, like, an executive producer credit, being like, I've done the work of an executive producer. And so the whole issue is that she is. The first lawsuit is like, her. I think it's title seven, title nine. I forget which one it is. It's an employment lawsuit where she is suing her employer. But this letter is like, she wanted to be a producer, in which case she wouldn't be an employee or she would be, like, an independent contractor. So this. This letter, like, holds a lot of legal weight as to whether her lawsuit will be valid.

[B]

Right. And also, Justin Baldoni, I don't know if this is his legal claim, but at least, like, his public claim is that, like, Blake and Ryan tried to steal the movie from him. And then, you know, get the second one and, like, take this whole thing that was meant to be his. And that letter, even though she's, like, listing out all the things that he did wrong, kind of proves that point that she's trying to take the movie. Whether it's because she thought he was incompetent or because she's just a movie stealer.

[A]

Well, basically evidence. She really thought he was, like, the most incompetent and how it wasn't fair that he's not only financing the film. Film, he is technically the head of the studio producing it. He's the director and the star. He was spread too thin. This was his first time doing most of it on a set this big, and he was just incompetent. Like, there is proof, like, of all these things that are being released which are really bad for Blake, there is proof that I don't believe it was malicious. She really found him to be incompetent.

[B]

Yeah. Not like her and Ryan being like, this movie's gonna be gangbusters. Let's get the next one. Let's push this guy out now.

[A]

Also in the text messages, there's a lot of times she's, like, referencing him and his cult and it's more so his religion, which, like, isn't a good look. I don't know anything about. It's called the Baha' I religion. She calls it a cult many times, especially because, you know, the head of Wayfair is Justin and this guy who's also Baha' I, and he is super wealthy, he's this billionaire, he's financing this lawsuit entirely. So she keeps referencing, you know, his religion as a cult, which is not good. I don't know anything about it, but it's just like, like, you know, that's not good either.

[B]

I've not heard that. I don't know a lot about that religion. I've not heard that it's a cult.

[A]

Right. She's giving it like the Scientology treatment.

[B]

Right. But you know, some people make, you know, a lot people say all religion is a cult.

[A]

Right, Right.

[B]

Is she a religious woman? Is.

[A]

I'm not getting the vibe.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So it's obviously not looking good for Blake, but I feel like the heart of the matter is really being looked over at least by like the girls on Tick Tock who want to have sex with Justin Baldoni. It's like, well, there are now three women on record saying like, he was inappropriate, he was creepy, he said inappropriate things. HR violations, which is like really what the start of this whole thing was.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And that's the little Lily. Jenny Slate and Blake Lively.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And the faux feminist allegations, of course. But it just seems as though Taylor.

[B]

And Blake were like to be a fake feminine.

[A]

We're so in this together.

[B]

Yeah. And why aren't they friends anymore? That's what when she said, I'll always have your back.

[A]

Now the Baldoni stands have sort of surmised that, you know, Taylor found out that Blake was making all this up. No, that's what they think.

[B]

I don't think. I don't think that she's making all that up. I think she. It's how she experienced it. But also like, well, I guess lesson learned. Don't sign on to a project with a first time director, actor, financier, producer. But that was like the board going into it. And she's made many a movie.

[A]

No, and say what you want about Justin Baldoni, like he sought out the project. Like he bought the script. This was his.

[B]

It's not a crime to do it for the first time. It's his first time on earth too.

[A]

Right. It was his project to fuck up. Like he sought out Colleen. He bought the right. Like his studio.

[B]

Also his cut was chosen even after Blake and all of her Khaleesi dragons did the most on their big one on her cut. They still liked his better movie. Did really well. There's nothing wrong with the movie. Not that I saw it.

[A]

I watched it.

[B]

Right.

[A]

But I had some issues with it. But overall, it was a very good movie.

[B]

Audience feedback, like, it was a real movie. He made a movie.

[A]

Absolutely.

[B]

So it's not like he put together some atrocity and we wouldn't see it. Whatever he made is what we saw, and he made a real movie. I don't know why it was so abhorrent to her.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah.

[B]

And hers was worse than that.

[A]

Because allegedly. Yeah.

[B]

Like, no, but they had two focus groups watch the movies, and they chose Justin. So that's as objective as you can get.

[A]

No, it's really crazy that she pulled out, like, every connection she had to edit this film, and she didn't win.

[B]

But you said earlier that, like, the studio also didn't like Justin, so that's why they gave her 10 days.

[A]

In her document, she said that Sony has asked her to come up with another version. Maybe that's her version of events. And she was so angry, and Sony said, sure, put together your own version. We'll test it. Like, knowing it would fly.

[B]

Yeah. Not like Justin's is really bad. Blake, come save us 10 days.

[A]

They're, like, placating to her.

[B]

Blake, save us in 10 days.

[A]

Right, right. Okay. Yeah.

[B]

Now, I don't remember, like, what we're all even fighting for anymore. Like, if Blake wins, what does she get? If Justin wins, what does he get? They've both been really tarnished by this.

[A]

I don't agree. If Blake wins, she gets nothing. If Justin wins, he gets salvation. Like.

[B]

Like, he gets his it.

[A]

To me, it doesn't really matter what the docs say because. Sorry, what the court says, because I do believe people have made up their mind on this, and, like, I do think Blake Lively's career is effectively over because of it.

[B]

But she's around. She's everywhere.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Like a.

[A]

Like a lunatic. Kind of, like, acting like. No, Like, I think she's just ignoring it, moving on with her life. But I don't see her getting another legitimate project for, like, a decade. Honestly, I. Her friendship with Taylor is over. I feel like this whole saga has ruined Blake Lively's career. I don't feel that way about Justin Baldoni.

[B]

Well, she had a bigger career to lose. She had more to lose. And, you know, I think he was doing, like, making his own projects anyway and doing, like, weird little things. He can. He can still do that.

[A]

And like, at the end of the day for him, it was like a rising tides raise all ships. Like, he was this very lesser known. He was in one show and he had a cult following from his podcast. But, like, he was not a household name by any means. He is now.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Whether he likes it, but I don't.

[B]

Know if that's going to translate to movie roles.

[A]

No, I, I think for the most part, people would want to stay away from both of them. Like, who the wants this?

[B]

Yeah. But you'd be surprised what people can come back from. It's so true. If the right person wants to help you, like, you get into the next big movie and it's over, we forget about the thing that. Oh, remember when we used to talk about that all the time?

[A]

Yeah. But we're just like, still talking about.

[B]

It because it's inactive and it's not gonna be over till, Oh, I guess, coming up two months. Wow.

[A]

That year flew, but it's just beginning.

[B]

Yeah. Yeah. But then it will be over. And I'm saying, like, you really would be surprised what people can forget.

[A]

It's true.

[B]

Look at us.

[A]

Look at Colton.

[B]

Yeah. We didn't like, we forget stuff all the time. We're like, remember when that was crazy?

[A]

Yeah. Yeah.

[B]

So I have hope for both of them, and I think they'll need, like, powerful friends, which she has Slash had and he has his friend guy.

[A]

Now if I'm Lucy and Matt Damon and Ben Affleck, like, I'm pissed, but.

[B]

They don't come off badly. They're trying to help their friend.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah. But it's just like, who wants to be dragged into this?

[B]

I don't know. I, I, my. Honestly, if anything, I find them favorable. That's a nice thing to do for a friend.

[A]

Yeah, of course.

[B]

And yeah, it's not, it's not over. Like, you can come back.

[A]

Yeah. But in terms of this saga, like, I do feel like it's over. Like, the Internet has decided, like, Blake is the villain and Justin was her, her victim. And he almost had his life and career ruined by this, this evil witch, and now he's saving himself.

[B]

Well, he does need to say, like, he, he did. If he didn't launch this legal battle, he was done.

[A]

He was done.

[B]

Now it's like, it's just more. They're both done.

[A]

Yeah. Right. It's so true.

[B]

But he was done.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

Yeah. Okay. Ready for our next story? Best story of the year. Razzie Nominations.

[A]

Okay. This is kind of like our Super Bowl.

[B]

This is our super bowl, but Super Bowl. But unfortunately, I really don't know a lot of these projects, so.

[A]

Well, that means they should get razzies.

[B]

Yeah, I guess I didn't, like, watch that much stuff, but Worst picture, the category. We're gonna go through the categories. Category. Biggest one, Worst Picture, the Electric State.

[A]

Never heard of it.

[B]

Hurry up. Tomorrow. Snow White.

[A]

Who's Rachel Zegler winner?

[B]

Star Trek.

[A]

Was that this year? That's insane.

[B]

I. I mean, was it even bad or. It was just like.

[A]

It was like I had the. It ends with us, like, so much drama. It overshadowed the actual movie. People forget about the. It ends with us, actual film. And people definitely don'. Like. But. But I do believe it was terrible. Between, of course, like, the Rachel Zegler gal Gadot. Anti Semitism, but then also, like, the dwarfs or. Yeah, we can say, well, dwarfism. Like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[B]

But that's the name of it.

[A]

Like, that's just the little people, the cgi. Like, it was sort of just terrible. Curse from the start.

[B]

War of the World.

[A]

Mark Platt.

[B]

You know, I do think Snow White might sweep the razzies this year. Mark Platt stopped. Justice for Mark Platt. He tried.

[A]

You just know.

[B]

And you know, it's not his fault he's a hit maker.

[A]

You know, Mark Platt, like, has a lot on his plate. I feel like he goes to bed at night. Yeah. I feel like he goes.

[B]

Victoria.

[A]

Yeah. With like, a lot of cirrus.

[B]

Yeah. From Ben Platt.

[A]

Yeah. His ungrateful son.

[B]

Wench. Yeah. Yeah. Wait, you're gonna give me opportunity to talk about Ben Platt? I'm not gonna miss it.

[A]

Yeah. I didn't think you would.

[B]

Worst actor, Ben Platt. Dave Bautista in the Lost Lands. Ice Cube, War of the Worlds. Scott Eastwood. Alarm. I just feel like that's not fair.

[A]

Just leave Ice Cube and Scott Eastwood out of this.

[B]

Honestly, you could leave Ice Cube in it, but leave Scott Eastwood out of this.

[A]

Oh, my God. Thank you for reminding me about random people. So I'm scrolling Netflix. Last night, before we watched Tell Me Lies, and I ended up. It says, like, Star Search, which I guess is like this old show that's coming back. And I'm looking at. They have this huge banner of the four guests, and I swear to God, it was like looking at a Monet. I'm like, who are these people? And I very quickly realized it is the most random group of people. Okay. And they all look so different. I didn't recognize him. Jelly Roll didn't recognize. Chrissy Teigen did not recognize.

[B]

What are they the judges?

[A]

Sure. Sarah Michelle Gellar with bangs didn't recognize Anthony Anderson. He was the only one I did recognize.

[B]

And what are. They're on Star Search, Jackie.

[A]

I was like, so conf to what I was looking at, and I took a picture. I was like, can you look? Tell me that you recognize any? It was like, the most. It looked like AI generated human beings. Like.

[B]

Well, jelly roll, you know?

[A]

No, but he's, like, new looking.

[B]

Right? But he has the. The tattoos.

[A]

Chrissy Teigen was irrecognizable to me. Same with Sarah Michelle Geller.

[B]

I think Anthony Anderson looks recognized.

[A]

He has lost a lot of weight.

[B]

Yeah. Sarah Michelle geller could be 40 different people.

[A]

Yeah, right.

[B]

Yeah. And they are the judges of Star Search. Anthony Anderson.

[A]

Sarah Michelle Geller.

[B]

Yeah. Chrissy Teigen. You can come back for anything, Koji.

[A]

It's so true. Even though I don't know if I would consider, like, this, like, a big, huge comeback. And I do think, like, Chrissy Teigen has successfully been rehabilitated. No, not canceled, because she still gets work. But she's been knocked down, like, yeah, a few pegs. She's not got at the level. She was so famous.

[B]

She was everywhere.

[A]

Every opportunity for a model, a host, a funny person, a talking head. Where's Chrissy Teigen?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

She was making more money than her husband, like, and then, of course, her business cravings was huge. Her line of Target pans cookbooks, like, safely, safely. Razzie.

[B]

Sorry, More works after Jared Leto. Tron the weekend for Hurry up Tomorrow.

[A]

No one is immune. That's what I love about the Razzies. They say that death is a great equalizer. I actually. To be the Razzies. Yeah.

[B]

Worst actress, Ariana Debose. Love Hurts.

[A]

I don't know that project, but I feel as though she's capable of delivering a worse acting performance.

[B]

I agree.

[A]

I've seen that medley.

[B]

Mila Djokovic in the Lost Lands. Natalie Portman, Fountain of Youth. I definitely could see Portman.

[A]

I just want to say I could see Natalie Portman also delivering, like, one.

[B]

Of the worst performances and, like, just taking on the wrong project, riding on the wrong horse because she's, like, so.

[A]

Hollywood, like, classic actress. I could see her having, like, this really insane, like, she went too hard. Sense of, like, self importance. Yeah.

[B]

Rebel Wilson, bride hard.

[A]

Oh, she was robbed. Like, seriously, leave Rebel Wilson alone.

[B]

Oh, really? I feel like she's like, classic Razzie's fodder. But, like, I feel like she takes pride in the fact that she takes on movies that, like, sure could be nominated for resi. Like, okay, Ride hard.

[A]

She doesn't take it serious.

[B]

Title of that movie, Bride Hard.

[A]

I just feel like Rebel Wilson is genuinely, like, a lost individual in this moment. Like, I think that she lost a lot of weight and had, like, lost her sense of self, honestly. I think that happens a lot with, like, actresses. They go. I feel like Melissa McCarthy went through, like, a weird period because you're just, like, cast exclusively as, like, the funny fat friend. And then you become, like, you don't know. And then you want to do serious, like. And I feel like Rebel Wilson, like, seriously, she never found herself after she lost the weight, honestly.

[B]

And Michelle yo. Star Trek. Wow. Taking big swings.

[A]

Honorable mention to Michelle yo. And Wicked also definitely ruined the franchise.

[B]

Like, a worst, I feel like, performance.

[A]

We weren't talking about it in the first film because there was so much hype and, like, excitement. And now that the second film is out, done, and dusted, I do think we need to talk about how Michelle yo, like, borderline ruined a lot of the music and just, like, the movie.

[B]

Did you watch the second movie? No. Me neither.

[A]

Isn't that crazy?

[B]

Wicked two for money. Great joke, Nikki.

[A]

Loser. Great joke.

[B]

Worst remake, ripoff, or sequel. I know what you did last summer. Five Nights at Freddy's, two Smurf, Snow White, and War of the World. What's unfun about the Ragasses this year is that, like, not only have I not seen these pictures, I have not heard of them. Like, I. It's more fun when, like, take a swing at something that's happening for an Oscar.

[A]

Well, yes, but also, I think that they exclusively include, like, traditional film releases, whereas, like, they should be including, like, Netflix movies, Hulu shows. Like. Yeah, it's still a little old school. The Razzies. The Razzies need to evolve.

[B]

They do need to evolve, and I feel like they feel like they don't need to evolve because they're like, you know what? Maybe we'll just, like, fade into oblivion. Like, nobody's waiting. No, no, no.

[A]

We.

[B]

And we need the Razzies to encompass, like, with the Golden Globes. It's one award show that has to do a lot, you know? Yeah.

[A]

Do they not do TV shows?

[B]

Worst podcast.

[A]

Oh, my God. I. I have a few. I need to mention the good guys, of course.

[B]

No, they don't do TV shows.

[A]

No, they need to evolve.

[B]

Yeah. We need more from the Razzies. Nobody watched these movies. I'm. I'm shocked that the Razzies didn't Yeah, but don't go anywhere. Aziz.

[A]

We support you and we love you. Just do better.

[B]

Do you know that that stands for the Golden Raspberry Awards?

[A]

No. Why Raspberry?

[B]

I don't know. The 46th edition. I wonder who's hosting.

[A]

I think it's dream job, but is there an actual ceremony? And I know we have this question every year.

[B]

There is, because I feel like we've reported on who hosts the Razzies. Dream job.

[A]

Dream job.

[B]

Not this year, though. I'm busy.

[A]

You're just a lost boy. Yeah, I know who you are, but you don't know what you. Lost boy. Too busy chasing star.

[B]

You know who sings that? Kelsey Ballerini to her.

[A]

You are such a. Oh, my God. Listen, you.

[B]

Do you want to sing something in your register? Would that make you feel more comfortable?

[A]

I just did. Okay, fine. No. You know what? You're so unworthy of my talents.

[B]

That's not true. I've been your biggest champion. Are you ready?

[A]

Yes. Historically, you've been.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Will you continue to be.

[B]

Remains to be seen. Are you ready for our third story? Yes. Yes. Actors are being weird. Red flag. Margot Robbie says she became codependent with Jacob Alordi while making Weathering Heights.

[A]

And she's like. She should be immune to this sort of, like, cringe, clickbaity type of content.

[B]

So in a new cast interview with Fandango, Margot Robbie reflected on collaborating.

[A]

Okay. Throwback Fandango.

[B]

Fandango. On collaborating with her fellow Australian star, Jacob Elordi.

[A]

Oh, I didn't realize they were both Australian.

[B]

That's cute. I should. She said, I'm so dependent with people I work with, and I love everyone so much. And I'm always that person who's so devastated when a job's over, and I never want it to end. I think I developed that quite quickly with Jacob, too. She then recalled how Jacob hovered nearby as she worked on set. Not unlike lurking Heathcliff.

[A]

Oh, that Heathcliff.

[B]

I don't know if Emerald, the director, told you to do this or you did this, she said, but I remember the first couple days on set, he would just always be in the vicinity where I was, but, like, in a corner watching Kathy. Kathy. I didn't tell him to do that. I actually had to ask him to leave, she said. By the third day of filming, I found myself starting to look around to see where he was. I was really unnerved and unmoored, and I felt quite.

[A]

Oh, like the more unmoored.

[B]

And I felt quite lost, like a kid without Their blanket or something. We have a mutual obsession. He agreed. If you have the opportunity to share a film set with Margot Robbie, you're going to make sure you're within 5 to 10 meters at all times. Watching how she drinks tea, how she eats her food. Dude, she's just like an elite actor.

[A]

And like, genuinely, like, this is where Hollywood really loses.

[B]

But, like, you would never suspect that she has a husband and child talking like this about Jacob. Lordy. And that he has a sometimes girlfriend, Olivia Jade, who he doesn't want to piss off any further than he already has because she's has one foot out the door. Like, this is not how people in relationships talk about other people. Like this, Jackie. Inappropriate.

[A]

This is not how co workers talk about one another. Like the. This is such an HR violation. Where's Blake Lively? Like, this is so weird.

[B]

Let's talk about what happened on the set of Wuthering Heights.

[A]

And I just feel like celebrities and actors are always trying to normalize, like, how weird their job is to us. Whether it's, you know, kissing someone and you're married and they're like, no, it's normal. It's normal. And being like, yeah. I mean, we're always codependent with like, this is fucking weird. And I just like, where are the actors who treat their jobs like jobs, then go home to their loving family and like, talk about how weird it was.

[B]

The guy from Desperate Housewives.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

He's the only one.

[A]

Shout out to whatever your name is. And like, I seriously. And your wife.

[B]

Someone else said, was it George Clooney who just said that he's no longer doing roles where he's kissing? I don't know if I'm giving him way too much credit.

[A]

I don't feel like he said that and I don't feel like he does a lot of kissing.

[B]

Right. But now he's like, not playing the leading man. He's just like, somebody's great.

[A]

Now you're acting like it's your choice. It's like, well, you're not really eligible to kiss anyone anymore.

[B]

George Clooney not kissing in movies anymore. Yes. George Clooney has stated he's done with on screen kissing and romantic leading roles.

[A]

He's been done. Oh.

[B]

Citing his age now in his 60s, and his desire to follow the path of Paul Newman as he embraces older roles. Inspired by conversations with his wife about aging gracefully and focusing on different types of films.

[A]

These are like two separate things. Right. I thought you were saying, like, as a ode to his wife, he Won't be making out anymore. He's not doing what, the Desperate Housewives guy?

[B]

No. And it's like, it's easy to say, I'm not playing the leading man in a romantic movie anymore. When you're no longer being counted. Pass it. Like not eligible in your heyday. Take the stance in your heyday, like now it's like, well, of course you have taking on different sorts of roles. No, but I get what he's saying.

[A]

Like if you wanted to be a lead man in a romantic movie, like he could find that job, but it's really not his job anymore. So like let leave it to others. And he's trying to age greatly. Kind of like Robert De Niro. He hasn't been like a leading romantic man.

[B]

He's like trying to take a moral stance. Like he's doing it for his wife. He's been married.

[A]

Did he say that? It sounded like he did it.

[B]

He said, I'm not kissing girls anymore.

[A]

Anymore? You said girls? Well, I hope you're 100. Why would you be kissing girls?

[B]

I'm going to read you his direct quote. George Clooney says he's no longer, quote, kissing girls in movies.

[A]

When I say girls.

[B]

When I turned 60, I had a conversation with my wife. He said, he said the quote is kissing girls. I'll try and find the larger sentence.

[A]

Women is the word he's looking for. Why would George Clooney, the old man, ever be kissing a girl? Call the police. Like, that's weird.

[B]

Okay, here. This is better. Quote, I've been trying to go the route Paul Newman did quote. Okay, well, I'm not kissing a girl anymore.

[A]

Okay, A girl is better. I agree, but it's just a weird choice of words and it makes me give him a little, you know.

[B]

Yeah, little s. When I turned 60, I had a conversation with my wife. I said, look, I can still play basketball with the boys. I play with 25 year old guys. I can still hang. I'm in shape. But in 25 years, I'm 85 years old, old. It doesn't matter how many granola bars you eat. That's a real number. But that's in 25 years.

[A]

This is once again.

[B]

And I just feel like he's trying to be mature, but he's still being like, I could play, I could do it if I wanted to.

[A]

Right? Everybody wants me to do it because I'm so hot and sexy, but I'm not gonna do it.

[B]

Right.

[A]

And also, like, nobody cares, like, not to be mean. Like George Clooney has not really had, like, an impactful film that he starred in in many years.

[B]

Yeah. I just feel like it's easy to turn, like, to say this now when that's not what's coming your way.

[A]

Right. You're not really giving up a lot.

[B]

Yeah. Right. That's what I'm saying. But, yes, it was George Clooney who.

[A]

Said, the great George Clooney.

[B]

Like, if Jacob Elordi said, I'm no longer kissing girls because I'm devoted to my Olivia Jade.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I would say, wow, he's really sacrificing for her.

[A]

Yeah. I just really want Jacob Elordi to say this. I live for you, along for you, Olivia who I've been idolizing the light in your eyes Olivia. I live for you, along for you, Olivia. Don't let me go.

[B]

You know, I think that's how he feels.

[A]

And sometimes I hate my sister Olivia because there are so many amazing songs with the name Olivia in them. Of course, the one I just sang by One Direction, there's also an amazing John Mayer song. Let me just remind myself of what it is. John Mayer Olivia. Yeah.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I'm thinking something like Olivia could keep me through the night. Like, if my name was Olivia and two of those songs existed, the way they would, like, be my every Instagram story. If I had a Raya profile, it would, like, be. It would be the theme of my, like, the theme song of my life. And like, if I was ever on Dancing with the Stars and they had, like, the theme song night, I would be dancing to Olivia by One Direction.

[B]

Considering your name is not Olivia, what is the theme song to your life?

[A]

Life. Jeez, that's such a big question.

[B]

It's such a big question. I don't expect you to have an answer.

[A]

I feel like the Toasters would know better than me.

[B]

I know.

[A]

It's really sound off in the comments. What is the soundtrack of my life?

[B]

What is the theme song of your life? Per theme song night.

[A]

Good morning, girlies. It's the Toast. It's Jackson Dirt and we're your host. It's your favorite show, the vast five things you need to know. We'll start your day off Swirly twirly girly. It's the Toast.

[B]

I sound amazing. Let's get into our next story, shall we?

[A]

Yes, if it's our next story that's brought to you by the Container Store, per chance.

[B]

Yeah.

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[B]

Thank you, Claudia. I was just checking the stories to see that nothing new happened. But did you see Justin Anderson weighed in on Brooklyn and Nicola?

[A]

I did.

[B]

I hadn't seen this yet. He's a trusted source.

[A]

Yes, he is. I feel he's an unbiased just tell it to you it's straight type of guy.

[B]

So he commented on something. He's a celebrity hairstylist.

[A]

He did a Q and A and somebody was like wanting his take. He's like, everybody wants my take.

[B]

Oh. He also commented on someone's Instagram post and said Brooklyn's wife was one of the worst quote celebs I've ever worked with. It's her 100. She's a bad apple. Red flag emoji. Everyone knows how close the Beckham family really is.

[A]

So he said that in his story too. Like, he got booked to, and he said it was the worst experience of his life. And that's kind of the. The. The theme around people who know and work with her. I have heard that for years. And. Yeah. Which maybe, like, when we heard it, she was a young girl, and, like, girls are allowed to grow up and.

[B]

Grow, but it seems like the common denominator.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And Victoria's probably ice. You know, ice queen. She is.

[A]

But she's earned the right to be. And it just seems like Nicola is this, like, spoiled brat.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Nepo, baby.

[B]

I found that to be interesting. Our next story. Rumors are quietly swirling, and I just want to make mention of it, though I don't think that it's true, but that Taylor and Travis have hit some snags in their wedding planning. And some.

[A]

No one's immune.

[B]

Some people are saying they're on the rocks.

[A]

And I just want to say I don't believe it to be true.

[B]

I don't believe it to be true either. But, like, just in case it's true.

[A]

Let'S just talk about how crazy it would be. She, like, seriously, she can't.

[B]

Like, you can't. It's too late to turn.

[A]

It is. They might as well be married already.

[B]

Yeah. So, according to Page Six, Taylor and Travis are reportedly going through their first real test in their relationship as his potential NFL retirement loons amid their wedding planning.

[A]

You know what? It is a lot of change. Athletes always struggle when they retire. It's like your whole identity, your whole life, like, from the time you're six, playing peewee. Whatever. I think it's a challenge for even the strongest of relationships. That combined with clearly a very stressful lawsuit and.

[B]

And wedding.

[A]

Wedding planning, which is no matter how much money you have, is difficult.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

No, I don't think it's true, but I could see why people might.

[B]

Yeah. And that there's a lot of dynamics at play. A source said that Taylor has been more focused on lifting Kelsey's quote, defeated spirits following the Chief's losing season than on making wedding arrangements.

[A]

I could see him, like, moping around the house. Yeah.

[B]

And plus, he has to retire now. He's, like, jobless. However, he's not jobless. Poised for success post retirement. And anyone could possibly be. He's, like, booked and busy. He has, like, dreams of Hollywood. He has his podcast. Like, he's not jobless. Just, like, sitting on the couch, walking.

[A]

Around the house ever.

[B]

Compared to, like, getting up at 5am like, working out three times a day, and, like, being solely, like, dedicated and focused on one thing. It's a lot less.

[A]

I mean, I don't. You. You can still, like, keep that if it's important to you. That routine of, like, crazy. There are people who get Mark Wahlberg wakes up at 4 in the morning to work out three times a day, and he doesn't even have a athletic job. Like, you can maintain that level if you want to.

[B]

Yeah, but I think it's definitely tough on the body. No. And. And the mind. It's a mind to go from being like a professional athlete, top of your game to now. Yes. Being a podcaster, commentator, actor, whatever. Like, but your whole life was one thing. And to go through that transition, like, while wedding planning, like, let's give Travis some grace.

[A]

Yes. And also, I think sometimes, like, it makes it easier if, like, you know, your partner's in the same space as you. Like, you're also winding down. Taylor's not. Like, she's probably. Probably preparing first because she prepares, like, years in advance for some major tour, and her, like, athletic schedule was probably on par with his.

[B]

Yeah, actually, I don't feel like she's preparing for a tour right now.

[A]

I don't know.

[B]

Like, she can do any minute. I think they're building the crib nursery.

[A]

Well, in the documentary, she, like, you know, she starts the rehearsals and the training like, a year in advance.

[B]

But didn't she say recently she is not touring again anytime soon? I feel like she said that.

[A]

I hope so.

[B]

Like, I feel like she left it all at the ERAS tour.

[A]

Good, good. Like, you worked hard. Like, you do deserve five years off. And like, I want you to get married and have kids, and I'm giving you the space. Do that. So keep releasing, like, your 800 albums. I'll buy all of them to support. Like, I need your T shirt that comes in six months. Like, if that's what you need to settle down, do it.

[B]

Yeah. So source says Taylor's trying to put him in a better mood by spending more time with him and not bombarding him with wedding plans. She would want him to focus on the wedding after he makes his career decision because she knows how important that is to him. I think also being up in the air about what to do once you make the decision, you can go forth, prosper, but being in the purgatory of not sure is terrible. What do you think he should do?

[A]

It's tough because he's a part of this, like, dynasty team, but everyone's younger than him. And so, like, Patrick's not thinking about retiring. Patrick's career just started, and a lot of, like, the new guys who I do think make Travis, like, a little redundant in the roster, they're all younger than him. Like, the team will go on to win another super bowl in the next couple of years. Can Travis's body hold out? Like, no. And he's one. Like, he's had an amazing career. Like, let it. He should have.

[B]

Have.

[A]

I know. Coulda, woulda, should have. He should have retired after last year. He made it to the Super Bowl. Losing the super bowl is still an amazing way to retire. It's ideal to go out after a Super bowl win, but not everyone is.

[B]

Tom Brady, and it's even go out after a Super bowl win.

[A]

Well, the first time he did, right, he went out perfectly. He should have just fucking let sleeping jogs lie, right?

[B]

But so, like, they can't actually can't.

[A]

No. Men are sick.

[B]

For someone to go out after winning the super bowl or getting to the super bowl, the argument would be, well, they're at the top of their game, right? Why would they quit now, right? They cannot go out out on top. It is impossible for them.

[A]

So coulda, woulda, should have. He should have retired last year and now, like, to go out, like, this is obviously terrible. So I understand even, like, understand why. Because now it's like, well, obviously losing the super bowl is a much better way to go out than not even making the playoffs. Like, I understand why he's struggling so much, but it's almost like that decision paralysis is the worst part. Just do it. Make a decision. Stay or go. Now I feel like this is a perfect segue into talking about the next story that I absolutely have to talk about.

[B]

Tell me lies.

[A]

Oh, no. I thought you were talking about Tom Brady.

[B]

Oh, sh. Yeah.

[A]

So I would like to thank the person who let me know that on July 23, 20. No, excuse me. July 20. July 13, 2023. You know, when I heard that Alex Earl was spotted with Tom Brady, I was like, I feel like I predicted that, but I think that I predict everything. And I think that the world revolves around me. But on July 13, 2023, we were talking about Alex, and I'm cracking up. We spelled her name wrong. That Alex and Earl.

[B]

Alex and Earl and Braxton and Barrios.

[A]

And Hicks were spotted at the sbs, like, the first red carpet appearance. And I remember we had this conversation, and I'm going to play it for you guys, okay?

[B]

Shout out to the toaster who is listening to old episodes and found this.

[A]

I was just being a Hater being like, I, you know, it's so cute. But, like, don't you feel like she could do better? Ready?

[B]

Yep. Turn it up. Oh, God.

[A]

Oh, God.

[B]

Please, please, please.

[A]

Pertinent here.

[B]

Okay, now, they're kind of like both young.

[A]

We're talking about Alex live in Miami.

[B]

Like, what more could you want out of a relationship at this age?

[A]

Yeah, but, like, you know, she rose to stardom. She's in a very unique position where, like, she could be really. Like, she could date Tom Brady if she wanted. Like, let's aim higher.

[B]

But what about love? What if she loves him?

[A]

What about love? Okay, what about love?

[B]

Sometimes you don't consider love. Like, do you think she would love Tom Brady genuinely?

[A]

Yes, I think quite, really, truly. Anyone could you think, what if he's a torturer?

[B]

No.

[A]

What if he's like, the worst personality?

[B]

I'm sure he does, because you don't get tens across the board in life. Like, you don't get to be, like, the best quarterback of all time and also be like, the most interesting dinner party guest that everyone wants.

[A]

We are profound and the most handsome.

[B]

All he cares about is football and his friends and his mom.

[A]

Is that bad? Is that bad? Honestly, I could listen to old episodes, like, for an eternity.

[B]

I just want to say we are two of the money is dazzling, funniest, perceptive, insightful girls I've ever met. Not only did I not predict what I was gonna say next, like, I feel like I'm listening to a stranger tens across the board who talks like that. Dinner party. Yes. I don't like Genius.

[A]

The fact that we have so many haters genuinely blows my mind.

[B]

Oh, my God, how enjoyable. What a great podcast.

[A]

I just want to give credit for that.

[B]

I should listen to old episodes of the Toast so I can have the experience of listening to the show not knowing what we're gonna say.

[A]

I can't because I'm always like, well, I should have said this. That would have been funnier.

[B]

Like, no, I have no notes on that.

[A]

No, that was hysterical.

[B]

Those girls are slay.

[A]

I feel like we're moving away from the more important point, which is that I accurately, like, predicted this.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Such a jealous.

[B]

You're such a to predict that. You predicted that she was gonna rub a back in St. Bart's yeah, well, the story was that was gonna segue into, like, talking about Claudia's great call. Jordan Hudson and Alex Earl hanging out together at college football national championships. We didn't even talk about the national championship. They were such a Big deal here in Florida.

[A]

Yes, they were. Everyone's like, are you going to the game? And I'm like, which one? Hoosiers from Indiana played here for the Miami Canes. College football.

[B]

Miami lost, and it's crazy because the championship was set to be in Miami, and then Miami was in the championship.

[A]

It's kind of how, like, the 49ers should be in the super bowl because the super bowl is in San Francisco.

[B]

But they're not even in the semifinals.

[A]

What?

[B]

Did they make it? Are they in the four?

[A]

It's over.

[B]

They lost. Remember? Harry told you.

[A]

Oh, yeah, But I thought we were just, like, talking about the playoff started.

[B]

Yeah. Now we're down to four teams, and then they're weirdest teams of all time.

[A]

G. That's why I haven't heard about it.

[B]

No one's talk, like, no celebrities. You could have never guessed which teams. Seahawks, Russell. Rams, Patriots. What's the fourth team? Broncos. What?

[A]

No celebrities except, like, the Rams.

[B]

Yeah. What? Everyone's really shocked that the Patriots would be in. And apparently they're playing a team next week whose quarterback has an injury, so they don't have their quarterback. So the Patriots are going to be.

[A]

In the Super Bowl. Okay.

[B]

Everyone's like, oh, my God, Robert Kraft's going back to the super bowl, and.

[A]

I'm happy for him.

[B]

He probably didn't think, like, after.

[A]

Well, Jordan put on her story, a picture of her and Alex Earl at this game, and it led people to believe that perhaps. Perhaps Tom and Alex went to the game together. Because why were they. Why would these two be in a suite together? Their connection is the Patriots. She's dating Bill Belichick.

[B]

Tom Brady. It was a joke that Bill Belichick and Tom Brady are on double dates. I don't.

[A]

Why was it a joke? Like, why would they be in the same.

[B]

Oh, just because it's like a VIP suite.

[A]

This is, like, Alex's town. Even though Alex made a lot of content, she went to a big pregame, like, with her college friends, it looked like. Then I saw her with, like, Miami people like Dave Grutman. So I don't know. Maybe, like, she was. I don't know it on. I can't.

[B]

I think she got there on their own. On her own. I don't think Tom Brady went to the college football championships. And, like, this is her town.

[A]

She runs.

[B]

She got. I think she had the better ticket. She runs this town for the Miami. She has her own scholarship school. Like, yeah. For the Hurricanes in the championship. She could have had Any seat in the stadium and she's got the one next to Jordan. I think Jordan just went up to her and took a picture. Alex looks like she's posing with a fan. Let me say so sweet smile. Go away.

[A]

Nice to meet you.

[B]

Nice to meet you. Have a great day.

[A]

Tom was there.

[B]

Tom was there.

[A]

Wow.

[B]

Are they the next Travis and Kelsey? No.

[A]

Like, this is. While I predicted it, I don't actually, like, want them to be a long term couple. This is just a stepping stone for Alex. So, like, maybe it was a date. This is a perfect date for them.

[B]

I just want to say she looks like she's taking a picture with a fan. I think Jordan just walked up to her from her Sweet.

[A]

Like Jordan Wood.

[B]

Jordan.

[A]

Jordan has a balls of steel.

[B]

Yeah, she really does.

[A]

So that feels right.

[B]

So, yes, this podcast is going to be turning into a sports podcast soon. We've been laying low.

[A]

Yeah, we have.

[B]

Very dormant.

[A]

I didn't realize the 49ers were out.

[B]

Like, you know what made me sad? The Bills are out and I am officially ready for a Bills Super Bowl. Of course I'm biased because of Haley and her blossoming family, but Josh Allen deserves it. I saw a headline. I was watching Zach's show with him, unfortunately, and the headline was like, is Josh Allen wasting his prime years on the Bills?

[A]

Oh, no.

[B]

And I think the Bills fired their head coach after losing their game because I don't think he has what it.

[A]

Takes and you should just blame someone.

[B]

No, I think, like, he's what's holding them back. Because I think everything else about the Bills is really strong.

[A]

Right.

[B]

But they're not making it to the Super Bowl.

[A]

They are kind of cursed. I do believe it was like, the OJ Years that just sort of set them off on the wrong path.

[B]

I don't think so, but I think they're, like, the ultimate underdog.

[A]

Yeah. You know, I'm like, if the NFL is scripted, they're not doing a good job. Like, no offense to all four of these.

[B]

This is a bad script.

[A]

Yeah. Or like somebody went off script.

[B]

Yeah. Like someone scored when they weren't supposed to score. Carried away. They were supposed to throw the game. Because I don't think anybody was, like, prepared for this. So what is it going to be? Like, Seahawks, Broncos, Super Bowl? What is that? That? What is that?

[A]

I don't know. Let's dive into Dear Toasters, our weekly advice segment where Jackie and I try to help out our community. This is sort of our philanthropic efforts. We're giving back.

[B]

If you guys ever want to tax tax deductible?

[A]

Yes, it is. If you guys ever want to hear from us, you're going through something at work with a friend in a relationship, email us dear toasters gmail.com or simply head over to our website, the toast podcast dot com. Scroll down, there's a little submission box. Both methods are totally anonymous. Hey Swirlies. I need some advice on how to handle my mother in law. Just, you know, kind of giving the toxic mother in law theme. I recently just had my first baby and my mother in law has been getting on my last nerve. First she came into the room to meet my baby and went and beelined to my husband, told him how proud she was of him. Right after I just gave birth, my husband told her immediately how proud of me he was, which I thought would shut her up. Last week we saw her and she mentioned to my husband how she got him a push present because he had done so much. She's getting a round of golf for him for himself. I feel like this is so backwards because he didn't even push a baby out. What should I do? Should I say something the next time that this comes up?

[B]

Oh my God, that's so offensive. And as a future toxic mother in law, even I can't defend this behavior.

[A]

But I do want to say it is 100% incumbent on your husband to handle this. Of course not only you have a new baby, had a baby, but also because like it's his crazy mom, he obviously is not going golfing. You just had a baby. Not only did she give him a push present, she gave him like the worst. She gave him.

[B]

Yeah, to take.

[A]

She gave you a job. But like you are now alone with the baby for eight hours. I don't think so. He's not allowed to accept the return.

[B]

The gift and say please spend this money and thought and time and energy on my wife. She just was pregnant for 10 months and pushed out a baby and is broken and can't walk. So for the wife, please, he needs to put his foot down. This ain't your problem.

[A]

Just like.

[B]

But I just want to say as a future toxic mother in law, I imagine, God willing, like when I have a daughter in law who gives me a grandchild woman, like I'm going to love this woman. Like I, I, I did it. Like I know what it takes and you give me a grandchild. Like, like move aside boys.

[A]

Yes, it's like we are mothers but we're still women.

[B]

So I actually can't, cannot relate to not seeing the woman in the room when you've done that yourself.

[A]

It's so true.

[B]

You really forget that much.

[A]

Yeah. And it's like, while we love our children so much, we're still common sense adults.

[B]

Yeah. I can recognize that. You know, up until the point of having the baby, like in pregnancy, a man can support his wife, you know.

[A]

And you're allowed to be proud of your son. Like a lot of men step up. A lot of men are amazing partners. Partners. You can tell them that in private. Not 45 seconds after the woman gave birth, for sure.

[B]

But like, compared to what? The woman.

[A]

It's absurd.

[B]

It's not even 1%. No, it's not even. And you know that. So I really cannot understand being so silly.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Moment. I really can't.

[A]

I'm sorry that's happened to you. Feel free to just. And that's the great thing about having a baby. Babies give you love, of course, but they also give you power. Because everybody wants to see the baby. So everybody, you know, who's in charge of who gets to see the baby be you. And I feel it's important that you wield that power like a knife. And so if she wants to act that way, that's. That's amazing. You'll never see the baby like it is.

[B]

Your package deal.

[A]

1,000%. Next up. Hi. I have a relationship slash money question. Last week I was going to the farmer's market and I wanted to have some cash on hand. I was at my boyfriend's house. We've been together for three years. He wasn't home, so I grabbed a hundred dollars out of his little drawer and I texted him that I was borrowing some cash. It slipped my mind to Venmo him. And a few days later, he of kind of freaked out on me. He said that when you borrow money from someone, you need to remember to pay them back. I said I was sorry and I sent him the money immediately. But I felt like it was a kind of odd reaction. Like I said, we've been together for three years. We basically live together. I buy groceries. I cook most nights of the week. I've never asked him to pay me for his half. Am I overreacting by feeling weird that he was mad I didn't pay him back immediately, or was I taking advantage of him?

[B]

You were not taking advantage of him. You did nothing wrong, like, in my mind. But people are different about money and people are weird about money. And I guess the idea of like, you know, actually taking cash from him is different than if he paid for you for something, but it's not. But after three years, like, he should be happy that he had the cash to give you to go enjoy your afternoon at the farmer's market. It's very ungenerous of spirit. Now, if you're together for three years, I imagine there's a lot of good in your relationship, but you guys clearly have different philosophies when it comes to money, and that could be a problem down the line.

[A]

Yeah, it can be a problem mostly if you just don't address it. So, like, you're buying groceries and cooking X nights a week, and he's nickel and diming you on some borrowed cash. Well, then it's time for an invoice. Here's three years worth of groceries. My time, of course, my labor hours. I'm very expensive. It doesn't just go one way. Like when you're generous. Right.

[B]

And so at the end of the day, you went to the farmer's market to get ingredients for him for his lazy ass. I like your approach. Communication does seem like the solution.

[A]

It's not like, okay, when I borrow cash from you, I have to venmo you, but when I, you know, do household things, it goes unnoticed. Like, if we're going to be now splitting things, let's split them.

[B]

No. And also, like, you want to take me to town task for not paying back money that borrowed. I want to take you to task for having an issue with me not paying back money that I borrowed. Like, he thinks he's on his high horse because you should pay back money. Well, you should be generous.

[A]

Well, of course.

[B]

With your lady love.

[A]

And so if this is a three year relationship, it does sound like maybe you guys, like, you live together, you're gonna get married, Money is a thing you have to talk about. And clearly you need to teach him.

[B]

Generosity just the way he's teaching you about, you know, paying back.

[A]

And I just want to say there's nothing worse than having to teach a man generosity. Like, yeah, it should be his spirit.

[B]

Well, hopefully he's open. Well, maybe, you know, people have different philosophies around money, so maybe there's a reason why he is the way that he is.

[A]

But you just sound lovely. Like, you go to the farmer's market and you cook for your boyfriend.

[B]

I know.

[A]

And he's like kind of a curmudgeon and he sounds gay. So I would break up with him. I would. Like, I would. I know this is a small thing, but it's pissing me off.

[B]

I Would have a conversation first. I thought that was like a mature. Yeah, you could always break up with him, you know? Know, you could always hit that button first, like, try and get through to him and explain. Like, first of all, you were. You could have been buying yourself a Chanel bag with that hundred dollars. I don't care what you were doing. But at the end of the day, you were buying groceries for commuter home. And if he wants to itemize everything in your life. Yeah, let's do it. Let's do it.

[A]

Right.

[B]

Of course.

[A]

And then you know about the pink tax, right? You know, you have to buy tampons, makeup, and all these things just to survive in the patriarchy, so. And then you also make 70 cents on the dollar, so it sounds like at this point he owes you money.

[B]

Yeah. Get out your checkbook.

[A]

Fifth and final, whatever it is. Hi, guys. I love my fiance, A. P. But every time he eats, he licks his fingers when he's done, like a child. It's loud, it's wet, and it instantly sends a shiver down my spine. I can be sitting there minding my business, and then comes the sucking noises, and suddenly I'm so close to throwing a wad of napkins in his face. I've made jokes to him before, like, how do those fingers taste? And I even flat out mentioned to it while he does does it, but he just laughs it off and keeps on going. Meanwhile, I'm sitting there twitching like I'm in a horror movie every time he takes another bite. Am I being a future naggy bitch wife, or is this actually, like, really gross and annoying?

[B]

How is this? Are you always eating finger food?

[A]

Should I bring it up again? If so, how. Thanks. Love you. Bye. Yeah, it does sound like licking your fingers is something only you do when you're eating with your hands, which is not every percent of the time.

[B]

Like ribs, hamburger, chicken fingers.

[A]

Maybe he eats like a toddler because everything we just mentioned.

[B]

Okay, well, you need to start. Not to make it about you, but, like, you need to start promoting utensil. Us. Yeah. Making meals that use utensils.

[A]

This is where, like, being a wife, like, kind of coincides with being a mother. And it's, like, really annoying when you have to mother your husband and, like, teach them basic hygiene or just basic decorum.

[B]

Even those foods we just mentioned, aside from ribs, hamburger is a clean. You don't lick off a hamburger.

[A]

No, it's just ribs.

[B]

It's just ribs. Chicken fingers are dry. What are you eating? Chicken dust. Like, yeah, yucky, hot Dog bun clean.

[A]

Yeah. What is he eating?

[B]

Like, unless you're eating cheese doodles, though, that's the only time you can lick a finger is when you're eating white cheddar popcorn. Like, a dusty snack.

[A]

Even then, like, fingernails are so disgusting. It's actually really gnarly.

[B]

And is he washing his hands before the meal?

[A]

That's why I love being a mom, because I always have wipes on me now, and I find myself using them for myself. More like, Cheeto dust is really yucky, actually, to lick off because fingers are just gross. Yeah. So I just feel like this is a situation where you need to, like, not be.

[B]

Be.

[A]

He's going to get sick. Like, he's going to get E. Coli. He. Like, this is a situation where you need to not, like, beat around the bus.

[B]

People who lick their fingers.

[A]

Oh, the sound, all of it. Like, I don't know what's grosser. Like, the visual, the, like, the audible sound. It's gross.

[B]

So tell me you can't dine with him.

[A]

Yeah. Tell him that he can have his dinner outside, like, with the pigs. Like, it's just sick. It's really disgusting. Yeah, I hate that. Like, this is a part of the. Of, you know, womanhood. I feel like Scott Galloway, you know, he's all about, like, how men are. Are, like, lost. And it's true. Like, you have to teach them basic human high, like, hygiene, the things that we have to, like, train our men to do. And I feel like I have a pretty good man. Like, and I'm still being like, we have to go brush our teeth. Like, it's just, like, it is a serious issue. I appreciate Scott Galloway, like, actually saving. I don't. He's not, like, referring to, like, this specifically, but just more so, like, generally. It's a real issue, too.

[B]

I'm sorry.

[A]

And I'm sorry. And I feel like we need to. We could be like, well, you could get him a pair of gloves.

[B]

You could make. No, a salad.

[A]

You know what? It's time for a certain talking to call his mother. Like, it's really disgusting, the things we, like, let men get away with. Because you know what? It's hard to get a guy.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And the future of civilization depends on us dealing with this.

[B]

Maybe he could eat with a glove on and then. No, that's what I'm saying.

[A]

That's how we got here.

[B]

End of the meal, he could take it off and like, a doctor.

[A]

This is how we got here. Like, where the bar is in hell.

[B]

I'm just looking for solutions. You know, I'm looking.

[A]

You're looking for short term solutions because first he's licking his fingers, then he's eating his earwax. Like we need to nip this issue in the bud.

[B]

No, but like once he's using the glove, he will get accustomed to not licking his fingers and then that will become habit and over.

[A]

And then hopefully Covid strikes again and we're out of gloves anymore.

[B]

We can remove the gloves. Love.

[A]

I just think like training wheel. I just think you're an enabler.

[B]

I think I'm a peace protector and I want.

[A]

Also known as an enabler, perhaps.

[B]

And I want you to have your peace. And I don't know how to really change a behavior like this. So glove it is. No glove, no love.

[A]

Well, that's. You tell him when he gets into bed. No glove, no love. Thank you to everybody who wrote in. Thank you all for listening to another amazing episode. I can't wait to listen to it into two years and be like, wow, they're really good. Thank you guys so much for listening to the chosen morning show. We deal the fastest stories you need to know for Many Friday on YouTube watching us on YouTube please subscribing this video Thumbs up podcast Podcast A beautiful sounding.

[B]

Love you. Bye.