Podcast Summary: The Toast — "Tisdale v. Duff: Tuesday, January 6th, 2026"

Hosts: Jackie & Claudia Oshry
Release Date: January 6, 2026
Theme: A highly engaged and spicy post-New Years return episode, covering influencer drama, the Ashley Tisdale ‘mom group’ saga, internet culture, and real listener advice.

Episode Overview

Jackie and Claudia return with energy for the first Tuesday Toast of 2026. The episode’s main current runs through “uncomfortable, hard truths,” particularly as they apply to friendships and online behavior, both in the celebrity sphere and real life. Topics include influencer TikTok drama, the Ashley Tisdale mom-group controversy, the ongoing saga of Tom Brady and Alex Earl rumors, Amanda Seyfried’s online behavior, and their advice column, “Dear Toasters.” Humor, allusions to pop culture, and the candid intimacy of their banter continue to be hallmarks.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Influencer & TikTok Drama

Timestamps: 06:22–16:18

• OnlyFans Drama & Camilla’s Course

  • A prominent OnlyFans creator, Camilla, is quitting to sell $2K–$6K social media courses, sparking backlash from both fellow creators (who dub it exploitative) and the wider internet.
  • Jackie and Claudia ridicule the ethics discourse among sex workers selling “free” advice, ultimately defending Camilla’s ability to pivot and make money, while emphasizing personal responsibility in making expensive online purchases.
  • Quote (A, 09:29): “Anyone who paid $6000 to take a course from a former OnlyFans model on how to win at social media—like, that’s your money and you’re welcome to do with it what you want. And if you’re disgruntled about your purchase, like, I do blame you.”
  • Both hosts agree: Camilla’s decision to leave “the nude world” is praiseworthy, with comparison to a recent book (Margo’s Got Money Troubles) for context on using OnlyFans as a financial tool.

• NYC Influencer Interaction

  • Jackie shares another viral TikTok: a smaller influencer claims a major influencer “mean-girled” her during a chance meeting in New York, then posts an emotional video about it.

  • Both hosts take the influencer’s side, critiquing the complainer’s entitled mindset, the performative victim culture online, and the dangers of public call-outs without specifics.

  • Quote (A, 15:42): “Even if all of those things happened, this person doesn’t owe you anything... you are a stranger—on the street.”

  • Reflection: Modern influencer drama is subtle and deeply online (“fighting looks different these days...they don’t block each other, it’s just like a ghosting.” — B, 17:22)

2. Ashley Tisdale v. Duff: The Celebrity Mom Group Drama

Timestamps: 22:13–36:42

• Background:

  • Ashley Tisdale publishes a blog and then a Cut article about leaving her “toxic mom group” (comprised of Hilary Duff, Mandy Moore, Meghan Trainor, and others), comparing the dynamic to high school cliques and mean girl exclusion.
  • The story goes viral due to the group’s fame and their previously public camaraderie.
  • The group’s silence on the issue, and Ashley’s rep’s subsequent denial that it was about “the group,” only adds fuel to the speculation.

• Hosts’ Take:

  • Jackie and Claudia are skeptical of Ashley’s framing, theorizing that if an entire group phase someone out, the problem likely lies with the ousted member, not the group.
  • They dissect the shifting expectations of adult friendship—cliques are less about malice, more about genuine connection without the burden of obligatory inclusion. They point out that in adulthood, it’s unnecessary to maintain forced friendships for the sake of inclusivity.
  • Quote (A, 29:24): “If I was a part of a group of friends that I found out were not wanting to hang out with me—I…would never. You would just never see me again. I would be humiliated…”
  • The hosts believe the way Ashley publicized the fallout (by writing blog posts and articles) further validates the group’s choice. Claudia surmises that group queen bee status goes to Hilary Duff, with Mandy Moore as second in command.
  • The segment ends lightheartedly as the hosts consider launching their own “celebrity mom group.”

3. Tom Brady & Alex Earl Rumors

Timestamps: 36:35–44:13

• A rumored New Year’s Eve hookup between Tom Brady and influencer Alex Earl is quickly dismissed by TMZ, clarifying it was only “drunk, flirty fun.”
• The hosts debate who would benefit from clarifying the rumors. Jackie suggests Tom would want to safeguard his image ("almost 50-year-old with a 25-year-old"), while Claudia argues Alex would not want to be paired with an “old man.”
• Both agree Alex, as a self-made woman, deserves to “date up” and not confine herself to athletes—a recurring pattern—offering alternatives like Zac Efron and business moguls before drifting into a Greatest Showman critique.

4. Amanda Seyfried’s Online Behavior

Timestamps: 44:14–49:04

• Amanda Seyfried misunderstood Timothée Chalamet's shout-out to Kylie Jenner during an awards show (thinking it was about a "foundation" as in charity, not makeup).
• Jackie recalls Seyfried's history of odd and aggressive online behavior, including a call-out of Ariel Charnis, and shares she is now "officially on the list" of celebrities she dislikes, finding Seyfried insufferable.
  • Quote (A, 46:34): "I feel like if I met her, we would…she would hate me—and right back. She would hate me. I hate her."
• The hosts compare Seyfried's alter ego “Minjey” to other celebrities' troll accounts (e.g., "Vancity Reynolds").

5. Leighton Meester and Ariana Grande’s Critics Choice Encounter

Timestamps: 54:29–59:39

• Viral red carpet interaction: Ariana Grande visibly fangirls over Leighton Meester. Meester echoes Ari’s “Wow, wow, wow,” leading the internet to speculate on hidden shade.
• Jackie and Claudia agree that too much is being read into the interaction; Leighton isn’t Blair Waldorf, doesn’t lean into her TV persona, and projecting “mean girl” behavior onto the moment is a reach.
• Quote (A, 59:20): “If I had my gavel, I would say officially nothing. Burger. Yeah. No, no time served.”

6. Year of the Crack: Fashion Trend Speculation

Timestamps: 59:51–62:13

• Jackie claims she predicted the “crack is the new cleavage” fashion movement, now corroborated by Vogue.
• Claudia adamantly refuses to participate in showing crack, leading to playful banter on the relative merits of thong-baring celebrity dresses.
• Quote (A, 61:48): “In 2026, let’s keep our private parts private.”

7. Dear Toasters: Advice Segment

Timestamps: 62:17–73:56

• Friend Group Exclusion:
  • Listener’s friends (who she and her husband gave free tickets) went to dinner together without them, then posted as if only their foursome attended the game.
  • Advice: It’s mean, but not jail-worthy—don’t confront, just “take your cue” and don’t invest further in those friendships.
• Potentially Closeted Married Friend ("Spicy Take"):
  • Listener reports her married male friend is increasingly making out with men at parties (without his wife present) and wonders if someone should inform the wife.
  • Jackie offers a nuanced but blunt take: “If you enter into a marriage with someone knowing that you are gay…to bring somebody else into that just to sort of cover up what you’re dealing with…I feel like it’s really wrong.” (67:44)
  • Ultimately, hosts lean towards telling the wife (“Do the thing you would want done to you”), citing the unfairness of living a lie at someone else’s expense.
• Boys & Girls as Friends: Brief tangential discussion on whether men and women can be true best friends outside of marriage (conclusion: usually, no, unless one is gay).
• Thread running through all advice: Female solidarity and self-respect.

Notable Quotes & Moments

• “[Ashley Tisdale] is insufferable…if everyone says you’re dead, like roll over.” (A, 26:28, 28:52)
• “Normalize having a clique and normalize not everybody being best friends…” (B, 27:13)
• On online call-out culture: “The bar for what’s considered a mean girl these days…is so low. A thousand percent projection.” (A, 15:44, 15:57)
• “If you leave a group, it’s not an airport—you don’t need to announce your departure.” (A, 29:24)
• “Crack is beautiful. Crack is actually whack.” (A, 60:35–60:47)

Segment Timestamps

• Opening + Episode Purpose: 00:03–02:14
• TikTok/Influencer Drama: 06:22–16:18
• Ashley Tisdale ‘Mom Group’ Saga: 22:13–36:42
• Tom Brady & Alex Earl: 36:35–44:13
• Amanda Seyfried Online Drama: 44:14–49:04
• Leighton Meester/Ariana Grande: 54:29–59:39
• Year of the Crack/Fashion Commentary: 59:51–62:13
• Dear Toasters (Advice Segment): 62:17–73:56

Tone & Style

Chatty, irreverent, deeply online. The hosts blend pop culture knowledge, real-life anecdotes, and sharp (but not cruel) commentary. They consistently privilege honesty and “girl’s girl” solidarity while weaving in absurd, niche internet humor and relatable rants about modern life.

For Listeners Who Haven’t Tuned In…

This episode is a classic Toast blend of hot takes, witty banter, and incisive analysis of influencer and celebrity culture. If you want a panoramic view of how online drama, cliques, and adult friendships intersect—and crave candid advice on your own drama—you get all that here, wrapped in the show's signature millennial comedy.