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- [00:02]
Jackie Oshry
Good morning, millennials.
- [00:04]
Claudia Oshry
Welcome back to the toast and happy. Oh, what is it, Monday? Okay, okay. Let's just take it for what it.
- [00:11]
Jackie Oshry
Is, you know, let's take stock.
- [00:14]
Claudia Oshry
It's actually a huge Monday. Like arguably one of the biggest of the year.
- [00:20]
Jackie Oshry
It is for a number of reasons. This is a really big week now, of course for most people, including myself, like, election day makes it a major week. I also have other things going on this week that I'm really excited about, including but not limited to my birthday.
- [00:33]
Claudia Oshry
I agree. And I'm so glad you brought that up because through no help of my sister, I have slayed the house down fucking boots on a birthday present for you. Like, my generosity knows no bounds. You are going to like, I don't even have a concern. Stern. Like, you're going to have it and so excited.
- [00:58]
Jackie Oshry
Wow.
- [00:58]
Claudia Oshry
It's gonna be at your house tomorrow. Like, not me coming in a day early. A dollar short and a day early. Okay.
- [01:05]
Jackie Oshry
Wow. I can't wait. I was not expecting to hear that.
- [01:08]
Claudia Oshry
I kept waiting for you to send me like your wish lists and things. Nothing.
- [01:12]
Jackie Oshry
I've been thinking about it. I don't know, like the things that I actually want, they're not like to be a birthday present. Especially considering, like, know the level that you and I are at in terms of how we gift each other. Like, I want to cast iron skillet. That's just like not a birthday present.
- [01:26]
Claudia Oshry
So it's on sexy. It's not glamorous. I'm not getting you a cast iron skillet. Sorry.
- [01:30]
Jackie Oshry
I did see like a 60 piece leg crusade set.
- [01:35]
Claudia Oshry
60?
- [01:37]
Jackie Oshry
It's literally like down to the mugs. Like it's everything. It's like going viral. It's like $5,000.
- [01:42]
Claudia Oshry
Oh my God.
- [01:44]
Jackie Oshry
I don't need like, I don't need all that anyway. It would just be funny.
- [01:47]
Claudia Oshry
Also too expensive might be a hot take. But like I. And I'm really into like Crusade. I don't think I want their aesthetic, like in my mugs.
- [01:57]
Jackie Oshry
Agreed. And like their colors, the colors of like Crusade that I like, they don't make an every thing.
- [02:04]
Claudia Oshry
Right.
- [02:04]
Jackie Oshry
You know, and also right now my Leg Crusade game is so off. I have like three pieces and they're all different colors. Like, it's just a mess. So like, I don't know what to do about that.
- [02:11]
Claudia Oshry
Yeah. And actually, you know, Amazon Live is one of our sponsors today and the like Crusade that I have, I actually like fully stole from Amazon Live set. Like it was just sitting there and I took it home with me. Like, I keep waiting for them to, like, send me a bill. Like, I stole it like a. Like a thief.
- [02:24]
Jackie Oshry
That's a good use of your thievery.
- [02:25]
Claudia Oshry
It's good news of my platform, you know?
- [02:27]
Jackie Oshry
Yeah. Speaking of La Crusade, though, tomorrow's election day, which means speaking of, like, crusade, I'm bringing it home. Turd.
- [02:35]
Claudia Oshry
What are you going to make for election day?
- [02:37]
Jackie Oshry
Election day chili. You guys have to make a chili for election day because you put it in in the morning. You know, I'm actually.
- [02:42]
Claudia Oshry
I love.
- [02:42]
Jackie Oshry
No shade to Lake Crusade. I'm going to use my new crock pot, that 30 Lou got me, so that it will simmer all day, and by the time the results are rolling in, you'll. Your girl's posting up with a chili.
- [02:51]
Claudia Oshry
Okay. But you know that me and Ben used our crock pot to make a chili, and it was disgusting. We literally had to dump it into the Le Creuset to, like, properly cook, and we could eat it for hours.
- [02:59]
Jackie Oshry
That was your beef stew, I thought. Oh, one, that was beef stew. And two, my chili recipe was actually born out of a crock pot. Like, it's meant for the crock pot. So I have to, like, do all my meats in the morning. Like, you know, brown the meat, add the onions, and then it all goes into the crock pot. I'm going to use the one that Turdy got me. And let me just suggest, I've been doing election day chili for, like, three years.
- [03:20]
Claudia Oshry
I love that.
- [03:21]
Jackie Oshry
And it's the perfect thing for the evening of the election when you're just, like, watching TV all night. You want refills?
- [03:27]
Claudia Oshry
Like, no, I love that. Okay. By the way, I'm putting Ben on it. Like, we are making a chili. I.
- [03:32]
Jackie Oshry
It's not just a chili. It's election day chili.
- [03:34]
Claudia Oshry
It doesn't feel like. I know it's election week. It doesn't feel like it is election day tomorrow because, like, I voted, like, over two weeks ago. Like, it's weird to not vote on election day. I don't think I've ever voted early.
- [03:43]
Jackie Oshry
No, I never have. I did vote on Friday. I said and did what I said I was going to do better than that. Even without. Oh, my God.
- [03:51]
Claudia Oshry
Woman of your word. It's like, the most sickening feeling.
- [03:54]
Jackie Oshry
Claudia, this week, for some reason, I have done so many things that I've been meaning to do for about a year, including, like, you guys know, I did. I wallpapered my bathroom. Big reveal coming on my Instagram today once I just, like, tidy up two. I got the den fixed on my car. Did I tell you that?
- [04:10]
Claudia Oshry
Oh, my God. You got the dent fixed on your car. You really are a woman of your word.
- [04:14]
Jackie Oshry
I've had a dent in my car for over a year from pulling out of my own garage.
- [04:18]
Claudia Oshry
I bust the windows out, chica.
- [04:21]
Jackie Oshry
More than that. You know how I've always had that thing stuck on my windshield from when I tried to put a tripod on, and I put on my windshield what's supposed to go on the dashboard, and it's so sticky, and no one could ever get it off. And it's been there for almost two years since I got a car. Got that off.
- [04:36]
Claudia Oshry
Wow. She's cleaning house.
- [04:39]
Jackie Oshry
There was other things, too. I was. I was just in shock by myself.
- [04:42]
Claudia Oshry
No, it's really such a great feeling to say you're going to do something and then, like, actually follow through on it. And that's definitely something I feel like I've worked on in my, like, late 20s.
- [04:50]
Jackie Oshry
You're really good about that. You do not let the grass grow under your feet. And someone who, like, I really admire that quality about is you.
- [04:56]
Claudia Oshry
And.
- [04:57]
Jackie Oshry
And Shannon Ford, like, she really. She inspires me to do the things that I want to do, like, right now.
- [05:04]
Claudia Oshry
Yeah, she's good about that. Actually, she's coming over today because she has, like, a couple of hours to kill before she goes to the airport. So probably, like, be best friends. You know, take pictures, have lunch, do.
- [05:11]
Jackie Oshry
Classes, do, like, best awesomeness.
- [05:13]
Claudia Oshry
Pretty much. Pretty much.
- [05:15]
Jackie Oshry
There was something else that I did that I said I was going to do, and I'm. Oh, I ordered a bunch of, like, stuff, like lounge chairs. I know you always, like, you have no outdoor furniture. I. I don't have. I have outdoor furniture. I don't have loungers. Yes. Like, how am I supposed to catch sun bathing, Right? I don't catch rays, but I know every time my guests come, like, they're looking for loungers. So I ordered them online. They'll be here on Friday. That's exciting. And then I also wanted to get. Tell me if this is weird. I wanted to get, like, an outdoor shed for, like, storage, outdoor toys and stuff. But, like, ordering a shed online, like, okay, I felt really weird. I just, like, felt like, absolutely not.
- [05:51]
Claudia Oshry
You cannot order a shed online. It's giving, like, child trafficking 1,000%. Like, you're literally gonna open up that shed and, like, a couple of kids are gonna run out. Absolutely not.
- [05:59]
Jackie Oshry
I feel like they think I'M looking.
- [06:01]
Claudia Oshry
For a child, you can leave that sort of Internet, like, paper trail. I won't allow it. Also, there's something even beyond the child trafficking. There's something just like categorically false and wrong about ordering a shed. Like, you have to go to one of those shed places. You ever drive past them on the highway? It's like a thousand sheds just chilling outside.
- [06:17]
Jackie Oshry
I think I need to get my shed IRL because it was giving, like weird trafficking vibes.
- [06:22]
Claudia Oshry
Like, where are you going to put it, order?
- [06:25]
Jackie Oshry
I don't know. It depends what it looks like. Because some of them look like a little house, which is really.
- [06:29]
Claudia Oshry
That's very Kardashian. Like they have like dollhouses and.
- [06:31]
Jackie Oshry
Oh, that's like a playhouse. But yeah, it just depends on the vibe. But there are so many outdoor toys that I just, like, love to put in the shed. And then also once I start my gardening, which that is like, high up on my list of things I need to do. Ever since Martha and I told Zach he didn't know what to get me for my birthday and I told him, like, I want a garden. I don't expect to do the whole thing, but, like, get the ball, get the person here to help me corner plan my garden. Like, that's what I want for my present and I'll take it from there, but I need you to start the process.
- [07:01]
Claudia Oshry
So it sounds like we both had incredibly productive weekends because I cleared my entire schedule. Like, seriously did not. I had plans with Shannon and planted Taylor. I did not go to one singular thing and instead I watched. Was it four or five? I'm not sure. Harry Potter movies.
- [07:14]
Jackie Oshry
You watched all of them?
- [07:16]
Claudia Oshry
There's eight and I'm on the. I just finished Goblet of Fire. I think I watched four. They're three hour long. Three hours long each. Like, I seriously worked round the clock on watching Harry Potter films. It's something that Ben has really wanted me to do and I said I would. Like a million years ago when he watched Twilight, like, it was like this equal trade. But of course, I never did it. And I thought, you know, the vibes were so Harry Potter. This weekend it was like chilly in New York. It was the marathon. Like, it was just. I don't know, the vibes were right. And I said I would do it and I did it. And I watched the first four movies and I think, like, a lot of people have been waiting for me to go on this journey and it's a whole world that I'm really unfamiliar with. I never read the books growing up as a kid. I definitely saw Sorcerer's Stone.
- [08:00]
Jackie Oshry
Yeah. Who didn't?
- [08:01]
Claudia Oshry
Literally. Who didn't? And, like, some random scenes in other movies felt, like, a little familiar. But I really. I'm basically starting from scratch. And let me tell you, I'm really enjoying the journey, and it's making Ben so happy. So I'm happy for him. I got a little worried because I watched the first movie, and that was the only movie I had, like, truly seen. And. And I really enjoyed it. And it brought me this overwhelming sense of nostalgia. And I wasn't sure if that's why I liked the movie or if, like, the movie was good and, like, this was my sort of beat. Then the second and third movies, like, were, like, bad. Like.
- [08:31]
Jackie Oshry
Like, I really like Twilight.
- [08:32]
Claudia Oshry
Yeah. I really didn't enjoy at all. And I was thinking, oh, maybe, like, this whole universe is not for me. And that's what I'm learning here. Then Goblet of Fire, which we watched last night, like, completely restored my faith in the series. It's the one movie that Robert Pattinson is in now. I won't spoil what happens, but what they do to that boy is just wrong. And that movie really, to me, that's where things change. Like, they obviously had a much bigger budget. They, like, were just doing better things. Like, it was just better. I loved it so much. Tonight we're watching Order of the Phoenix. I think it is.
- [09:02]
Jackie Oshry
Yeah.
- [09:03]
Claudia Oshry
Yeah. I'm just, like, such, like, a fantasy. It's actually really crazy. I was trying to explain this to Ben. It's crazy to really see how influential the film is on other things. Like, please. The Hunger Games. They literally do a mini Hunger Games in Goblet of Fire. Like, it's a complete ripoff. Even. I was thinking of, like, fourth Wing. Like, little things are so clearly. It's really the blueprint. And then, of course, I got curious about, like, I know this movie's huge. The books are huge. I know that they have Harry Potter. Well. But, like, how rich is J.K. rowling?
- [09:30]
Jackie Oshry
Billion.
- [09:30]
Claudia Oshry
I was like, is she a billionaire? Because she would really be the only person who became a billionaire through writing books. Like, that's it. She. And her last updated net worth, which was like, two, maybe three years ago, was $800 million.
- [09:43]
Jackie Oshry
Close.
- [09:44]
Claudia Oshry
Isn't that insane? And especially, like, the first book is the book that has sold the most copies, obviously, because people get into it and whatever. Guess how many copies the first book has sold?
- [09:57]
Jackie Oshry
I don't know. 50 million?
- [09:58]
Claudia Oshry
150.
- [09:59]
Jackie Oshry
Like, it's insane. It's like, that's insane.
- [10:02]
Claudia Oshry
It's just. It's so. It's the craziest thing. So I'm like, new to this whole world, just really learning about all of it now. J.K. rowling. Like, I know people have. Let me get. Let me get your temperature on this. Like, people have said, like, pointed out problematic things in the movie. Always, like, and I haven't gotten there yet, but, like, any character who's like, not white has like a crazy name. Like, she does, like, crazy, like, weird sort of subtle things like that. You can't really pinpoint why it feels weird, but it does. And in the first movie, so Harry finds out he's a wizard and he has to go to Dagon Alley to, like, get all of his wizardy things. He's like, but I don't have any money. And Hagrid's like, all right, let's take you to the bank. And we go to the bank, and the bank is run exclusively by, like, these, like, 4 inch trolls with the biggest noses you've ever seen. Like, they're like, as big as their bodies, like, just in huge ears. And I forget what they're called. Not. Are they called trolls.
- [10:49]
Jackie Oshry
Goblins.
- [10:50]
Claudia Oshry
Goblins. Thank you. Yeah. And my jaw hit the floor. I was like, excuse me. And I guess Ben is kind of watched it as a kid, so his never. He never made that association. And he was like, oh, stop. It's good. It's fine. And then, like, the more he watched it as an adult because this is the first time he's seen in a while, he was like, oh, it's definitely weird.
- [11:10]
Jackie Oshry
Yeah, I. I haven't seen it. I. I saw like you were talking about this, so. And then that, like, there's people that say, like, in fantasy, like, goblins are bankers. I. And I've not, like, in my limited knowledge, like, experienced like a tie between, like, Jews and goblins. But, like, that's just a blind spot for me.
- [11:29]
Claudia Oshry
Yeah. The brief research I did, I obviously wasn't. The only person who had this thought was that it's playing on a trope. Not that J.K. rowling created, just that she's playing into like, this old medieval sort of stereotype of, like, goblins and Jews and banks. Like, I don't know.
- [11:43]
Jackie Oshry
I would have to look more into it. It doesn't sound good on its face. But I, like, I literally don't know anything about fantasy. I've not watched this in my adulthood. So, like, I'm not gonna. I'm not gonna make the call.
- [11:55]
Claudia Oshry
And I know that you are waiting till your boys are grown and you guys can all, like, read the books and watch the mov. And I'm so excited for you because I imagine being, like, a young boy because Ben read the books when he was a kid. Like, him and his dad read them together, and then they, like, watching movies. Like, it means so much to Ben. I imagine it's, like, a fabulous hobby to have as, like, a young teenage boy or a girl, you know?
- [12:13]
Jackie Oshry
Yeah. No, I look forward to it. And it's a Harry Potter movie, of course.
- [12:17]
Claudia Oshry
Of course. It's too much.
- [12:18]
Jackie Oshry
It's too much. So, yeah, that's always, like, been. My plan is to wait until they read the books, and I'll read it with them for the first time.
- [12:25]
Claudia Oshry
And if anybody is even remotely interested in where my current rankings of the first four films are, it goes as such. Sorcerer's Stone, Goblet of Fire. Very close. Like, real, almost a tie, but not quite. The third would be Chamber of Commerce, and the fourth would be Prisoner of Azkaban.
- [12:43]
Jackie Oshry
Chamber of Secrets.
- [12:44]
Claudia Oshry
Yeah. I'm calling it the Chamber of Commerce. Like, it's such a weird name.
- [12:48]
Jackie Oshry
They're all weird. I think Order of the Phoenix is weird. And do you know that in some countries, it's not Sorcerer's Stone, it's Philosopher's Stone.
- [12:54]
Claudia Oshry
That's the name of the book. Oh.
- [12:56]
Jackie Oshry
And they changed it.
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Claudia Oshry
Yeah. Because I went to go, like, I was looking it up, and I saw the book, and it was called Philosopher's Stone Philosophizers. Stone. Yeah. I. I don't know. I can't get into the nitty gritty about, like, things they change from the books to the movies. Like, I'm new here. I'm just. I'm doing my best to keep up.
- [13:14]
Jackie Oshry
Yeah. And it seems like the readers of Harry Potter are very pleased with how the movies turned out. Kind of like Game of Thrones.
- [13:19]
Claudia Oshry
Like, no complaints.
- [13:21]
Jackie Oshry
Yeah. So I think. I think that's a great journey for you.
- [13:24]
Claudia Oshry
Yeah. And I'm also, like, really enjoying learning about the different houses and, like, where you and I would fall. I actually was on Harry Potter.com trying to take a quiz, but they were like, I'm gonna make me sign up and give a credit card just to get my results.
- [13:34]
Jackie Oshry
I think that you are Gryffindor, the really crazy thing.
- [13:39]
Claudia Oshry
And I feel like not enough people talk about this. I forget which movie we figured out in. But, like, Harry is not really a Gryffindor. What is he actually like biologically? More a Slytherin. But when he put the hat on, he was like, please, Griffin. Because his other two friends had gotten in. He was like, please Gryffindor. Please Gryffindor. And like that's the power of Harry. Like he kind of gets what he wants because he's like the most important wizard ever.
- [14:01]
Jackie Oshry
That the hat gave winter break.
- [14:02]
Claudia Oshry
The hat gave him exactly what he wanted.
- [14:05]
Jackie Oshry
Interesting. Well, I'm a Ravenclaw, definitely.
- [14:08]
Claudia Oshry
And I, I believe. Now don't, guys, don't. I'm sorry if I'm spreading misinformation. I believe my favorite character in the films thus far, which was Robert Pattinson, even though he doesn't, he's not in the rest of the movies. I believe he was a Ravenclaw because he was like really popular but really sweet. I loved him. Who's like the nice boy who like everybody liked.
- [14:26]
Jackie Oshry
So what do you think you are?
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Claudia Oshry
I don't know. I don't really also feel like I'm learning a lot about like what differentiates one from the other.
- [14:32]
Jackie Oshry
Except like probably in the book if.
- [14:34]
Claudia Oshry
You'Re a dick, you're a Slytherin. Like that's the vibe.
- [14:37]
Jackie Oshry
My associations are like Gryffindor, like affable Ms. And Mr. Congeniality. Like just.
- [14:44]
Claudia Oshry
That's not mine. Mine is like, because most of the Weasleys are in there and they're. I love the Weasleys. They're just like this really down to earth Hamish, well raised group of kids. Like, yeah, they fight or whatever but like they're just good people. Like yes.
- [14:57]
Jackie Oshry
Yeah.
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Claudia Oshry
Salt of the earth.
- [14:58]
Jackie Oshry
Salter to the earth. Okay, I'll put that in there too. Along with like affable.
- [15:01]
Claudia Oshry
Like, yes.
- [15:02]
Jackie Oshry
Gets along with people. Congenial.
- [15:04]
Claudia Oshry
Yeah.
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Jackie Oshry
Slytherin.
- [15:07]
Claudia Oshry
Arsenal. Nefarious. Nefarious.
- [15:09]
Jackie Oshry
Bad actors and. Or blonde hair.
- [15:12]
Claudia Oshry
Actually just Malfoy has blonde hair. Like it's not, they're not like a crew of blond hair, yellow belly losers. It's literally just him.
- [15:19]
Jackie Oshry
But if you're a Blondini and you don't like, you don't really associate with the house, like you're going Slytherin.
- [15:25]
Claudia Oshry
There actually are not a lot of Blondinis in the house. And I also want to say one more thing because like it obviously takes place in Europe. Like some of most of them have British accents. Obviously the Weasleys are from Ireland and there's different parts of Europe that get involved. Like this guy, Victor Krum, he was.
- [15:38]
Jackie Oshry
From like Is that been really hard for you?
- [15:41]
Claudia Oshry
Yes. He is from something with a B.
- [15:45]
Jackie Oshry
Like Belgium.
- [15:47]
Claudia Oshry
One of those. No, a different one.
- [15:48]
Jackie Oshry
Brussels.
- [15:49]
Claudia Oshry
Keep going.
- [15:51]
Jackie Oshry
Berlin.
- [15:51]
Claudia Oshry
Kind of like Russian Y vibes.
- [15:53]
Jackie Oshry
Belarus.
- [15:54]
Claudia Oshry
No. Whatever they represent, I really thought I sleep. It's clear that, like, it takes place in an alternative universe because they have to, like, you know, travel to the school. But, like, real countries exist and it's like, where are the American? There's not a single American. Do they just go to a different school? Oh, like, is Hogwarts the official school of Europe, of the eu? I keep wondering, like, where are the Americans?
- [16:15]
Jackie Oshry
Does it take place in, like, in modern day?
- [16:17]
Claudia Oshry
Yes.
- [16:18]
Jackie Oshry
Hmm. I don't know. Maybe you'll find some Americans later on maybe.
- [16:22]
Claudia Oshry
That would be cool. Nice. Some representation.
- [16:25]
Jackie Oshry
And then Hufflepuff. It's just like, jolly.
- [16:29]
Claudia Oshry
Yeah, the jolly is the perfect word.
- [16:31]
Jackie Oshry
And then Ravenclaw, from what I understand, is, like, pretty liberal. Yeah, yeah. Independent thinkers like me.
- [16:39]
Claudia Oshry
Classic theorists.
- [16:41]
Jackie Oshry
Okay, so I think I slayed.
- [16:43]
Claudia Oshry
Yeah, I think you slayed. So that's a journey I'm going on. I'll probably be talking about it all week. I've. I've made immense progress. We started Friday night, and I'm ready on the fifth movie. Like, I'll be done by the end of the week.
- [16:51]
Jackie Oshry
Yeah, for sure. I watched the most random shit this weekend. Friday night I said, did what I said I was gonna do. And I watched a bunch of Martha Content. I watched her show, Martha Cooks, and I learned a lot about, you know.
- [17:05]
Claudia Oshry
She has a new show on Roku.
- [17:07]
Jackie Oshry
I don't have Roku.
- [17:08]
Claudia Oshry
You have a Roku up in my bedroom. You could watch it there if you wanted.
- [17:11]
Jackie Oshry
I'll watch. Go watch it there. But there were some good shows on Amazon Prime. She also has a gardening show, but it started at too much of an advanced level. Yeah. So I. I didn't watch that. And then on Saturday night, I watched some of the most recent season of Kardashians.
- [17:24]
Claudia Oshry
That's crazy.
- [17:26]
Jackie Oshry
Isn't that crazy?
- [17:27]
Claudia Oshry
What's going on over there?
- [17:29]
Jackie Oshry
So Courtney had her baby, which I loved, loved, love watching. And then, like, Kim is acting. I just like the show because it's like kind of a comfort, like, you know, mindless show. But there's something missing at the moment, like, from this world. Oh, I turned it off when they went to the Balenciaga show and they were making, like, a big deal about it, and it was like, in Beverly Hills, and they're just, like, talking about Habalenciaga. Is Everything. The shows are always the moment. Like, what are you talking about?
- [17:53]
Claudia Oshry
I don't know.
- [17:54]
Jackie Oshry
Read the room, okay? Even if you want to work with Balenciaga and wear blends, whatever, to dedicate a. Read the fucking room.
- [18:00]
Claudia Oshry
It's.
- [18:00]
Jackie Oshry
Nobody wants to hear about it.
- [18:01]
Claudia Oshry
I was thinking about Balenciaga on my way to work today because I walked past a Balenciaga store was completely empty. And I walked past it a lot. And I actually used to live. My old apartment had a Balenciaga on the corner. And that was during, like, the big scandal. It was really interesting to watch how, like, a store that was always busy, like, literally the only piece where the. The only people were the police who used to stand outside. Like, it was crazy. And I walked past it today and it was still like that. And I thought it was so interesting because there's clearly been some sort of, like, coordinated effort by celebrities in Hollywood to bring it back, right? Like, they have Nicole Kidman, Kim Kardashian, Katy Perry. Like, they've got the girlies showing up. And it's now been like, two years of, like, this sort of strategic attempt. And it's funny how, like, people are really not buying it. Like, I have not seen. Balenciaga is always on sale. I actually just went to Saks and they, like, you know, when you walk into the big. Like the big. The original Saks Fifth Avenue, like, all these huge brands have their own, like, mini stores inside the store. It's like a mall kind of. Balenciaga literally had a table. It was really crazy. Like, it's so interesting how celebrities really do have so much influence and, like, people are not listening to them on this. Like, they are not down to clown with this.
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Jackie Oshry
No, it's really so true. And even when they were doing this segment on Balenciaga, like, at least, like, mention the. You know, I know people, like, are upset, like, and then just explain your position because obviously you feel some type of, like, defensively towards them. And Debna, he. She's like, sitting next to him, like, so just explain that to us instead of pretending like it's not happening because people can't get over it. I can't get over it.
- [19:32]
Claudia Oshry
Yeah. And the weird. The way in which they've come back without even wanting to, like, acknowledge the huge. It's just. It's weird and it's. I think I'm giving. Maybe I didn't give people enough credit. Like, I'm actually. I would have assumed, like, once all the celebrities came back, everybody else would, like, rich people Love celebrities. And they'll start buying it again, and then the rich people buy it, and everybody else buys it. No, it. Every time I walk past. Deserted.
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Jackie Oshry
Yeah. Same for, like, in my department store. Like, every place has a kiosk and, like, Balenciaga is just always on sale sitting there. I did see, like, one bag that, like, looked kind of interesting for, like, a big, like, mom bag, but no, no.
- [20:04]
Claudia Oshry
Yeah. No, that's really lame of them. Like, I feel like. And we've been saying this for a while, the Kardashians, and I think they probably understand it at this point, have reached, like, a weird inflection point in the last couple of years where, like, their relevance, like, they're still relevant, but people don't, I don't know, consume their content in the way that they once did. And they're just sort of like these evergreen celebrities and not so much these, like, cultural. They were, like, polarizing. I don't know. There's just, like, something missing. And I actually think, while it started way before the Balenciaga thing, I think the Balenciaga thing has a lot to do with it. People just find them for a while, like, they've always been, like, not so relatable because they're so wealthy, but, like, their love for one another and their love for family and faith. Like, there have been things about them that have always been deeply relatable, even beyond the fact that they fly private everywhere. Like, there's been things you could see, like the sisterhood, like, we've always seen. And I don't know. I think the Balenciaga thing was, like, a really big part of it.
- [20:55]
Jackie Oshry
Yeah. Because I think when we think about them, and for all of the things that people criticize them about, like, I think one of the biggest, like, core tenants that make them so lovable is, like, their emphasis on family. I mean, that's. That is the show. And, like, it's really, like, what Balenciaga did, like, is so offensive to, like, people who, like, value family. Family and, like, have those same values that, like, we loved them for. So, like, it's because of. It's that.
- [21:20]
Claudia Oshry
Yeah. Yeah. And I just want to. I would love to know why. That, to me, is, like, one of the great wonders of the world. Like, what happened in the elevator with blonde Beyonce and Solange? What? Why are they willing? Well, not they. Honestly, it's really Kim. Like, why is she so willing to die on this hill? And I know that she's a person who values, like, business and money, and I'm sure, they've offered her, but she's a billionaire now, so it would be like, everything is pennies to her. So even if they're offering her $10 million, like, that's really not a lot of money to her. I would love to know, why is it out of this personal responsibility to your friend Demna? Like, I don't know.
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Jackie Oshry
I would love to know if that's your friend. Like, trust your faves and tell us Demna didn't.
- [21:58]
Claudia Oshry
Demna would never.
- [21:59]
Jackie Oshry
I know it looks a certain way, but Demna would never like Dem. But, like, that's the problem is, like, I think Demna would.
- [22:05]
Claudia Oshry
Right, Right.
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Jackie Oshry
But she. And she doesn't even say Demna would never. So, like, we're just left here being like, dem. And you're sitting with Demna, like, okay, I'm out.
- [22:12]
Claudia Oshry
Yeah. Yeah. She's also like, I don't know. I. If I go too deep on the Kardashians, I feel like I've said this, like, a lot of times the last couple of years. Like, it is boring, but, like, it's just so fascinating because when I think about, like, we actually just did a Patreon episode where we were going through our old podcast titles, and, like, literally, there was a year where every single day we woke up, like, excited, like, couldn't breathe until we talked about the Kardashians. Like, they. And I still have that with, like, other things, like, Travis and Taylor. Like, it's not that I've lost that energy. I've just lost that energy for them. And I think a lot of people have, and I think people did, you know, before us. Like, a lot of people, like, got over them. We were, like, always hanging on so tight. I just. I would love a real, like, a real expert on, like, popular culture and celebrity and to do, like, a full, like, what went wrong.
- [22:58]
Jackie Oshry
Yeah. And it's, like, not too late to just, like, change. Also, she's doing her acting. It's all, like, American Horror Story, which I don't watch, and I don't understand, like, the need to, like, conquer seriously every single thing at the expense of, like, your sleep.
- [23:11]
Claudia Oshry
And, like, that's better. That's what Courtney was saying in those last couple of seasons.
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Jackie Oshry
And when she started watching it, she was, like, early to say. And I'm like, no, she's just ambitious and, like.
- [23:18]
Claudia Oshry
Right.
- [23:19]
Jackie Oshry
And I thought the things that she was trying to do, like, were. I understand wanting to be a lawyer and then also starting skims, which is just, like, an extension of her. But now like, to go acting and, like. And she's doing all of these things, and they're like, if you. If you had to give up one, like, in order to. She's making this huge movie, and they're like, if. If you have to give up one of your projects and, like, think of everything she does. Skims, skin, sky, ventures, lawyer, mother, reality star, reality show influencer, like, a million things, speaker, whatever. And they were like, if you had to give up one thing, like, what. So that you could do this movie, what would it be? And she was like, sleep. I'm sorry, I can't relate to that. I can. So, you know, she already wakes up at 4am to go to the gym. So, like, seriously, you're not gonna sleep? Like, no. For what?
- [23:59]
Claudia Oshry
Courtney saw something that, like, we couldn't see, and we all were like, oh, for Bisson, a jealous wench. And you know what? Like, I completely see what she's talking about. It wasn't so much about greed. It's just, like, this obsession. And that's really what Courtney was saying. Like, this obsession with doing everything and being the most and best to everyone and everything. Like, why, like, you have everything in the world. You have such beautiful family. Like, enjoy it.
- [24:21]
Jackie Oshry
And she was at dinner with, like, the lifers and just saying how, like, every year she just wants to, like, conquer something new that she'd like, you know, a whole new space. That's how she feels going into acting. Like, the same way she did snl. Like, she, like, where she's such a novice and she wants to prove everyone wrong and, like, take this on and, like, it's. She's gonna keep doing like, this with a million other things. And it's like.
- [24:39]
Claudia Oshry
It's exhausting.
- [24:40]
Jackie Oshry
Like, I don't. Like, you could do that with, like, even hobbies.
- [24:43]
Claudia Oshry
Like, yeah, gardening.
- [24:45]
Jackie Oshry
That's what I was thinking. It's like, I actually like that I feel that way in my personal life. Like, I want to, like, learn new things that would, like, benefit.
- [24:51]
Claudia Oshry
That's what Martha says. You should really make it one of your goals to learn something new every day.
- [24:55]
Jackie Oshry
And I feel like in the last few years. I mean, the amount that I've learned in the last few years, like, I wouldn't recognize myself. Like, some of the things that I say. If I. If you had said that sentence to me even a year ago, Pargie loaves. I'd say, what?
- [25:07]
Claudia Oshry
Right, what?
- [25:08]
Jackie Oshry
And I think that's, like, it's a good thing to always be, like, learning new things. But, like, this Is extreme. To what end?
- [25:14]
Claudia Oshry
Yeah. Yeah. So justice for Courtney in that sense.
- [25:19]
Jackie Oshry
Well, she's definitely getting her justice because, like, now the show and it's. There's so much of, like, this prank stuff still, which, you know, that we don't like.
- [25:26]
Claudia Oshry
And, like, oh, my God, the pranks, like, they like. And I loved the Todd Cranes and I loved the Art Vandele. Like, those were two. And they did.
- [25:35]
Jackie Oshry
By the way, it's not even Scott pranking that's the problem.
- [25:37]
Claudia Oshry
They took it too far. Like, they. That they were so well received that they were like, let's make this a continual subplot for the next 10 years. And it's really dumb.
- [25:45]
Jackie Oshry
Yeah. And then Chloe's on the other end where she, like, won't leave her house and, like, just wants to, like, be a mom and be with the kids and, like, loves her routine. And I think that's, like, so nice. And I think that's. A lot of people would probably relate to that. But then they, like, don't actually show us her in her routine. They just have her having conversations with people about how she's going to leave the house and how the routine is important to her and, like, how she likes to make sure lunches. But, like, I'd love to see her make Drew's lunches, like, show us the routine that. That she's so enmeshed in.
- [26:11]
Claudia Oshry
That's funny.
- [26:12]
Jackie Oshry
So that's what I saw, and that's how Jax sees it.
- [26:17]
Claudia Oshry
We have a lot to get into today, so I hate to cut off this riveting conversation, but I feel like.
- [26:22]
Jackie Oshry
We should if we're more in. In service of more riveting conversation in service. So now, without further ado, here are the fast five stories that you need to know.
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Claudia Oshry
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Jackie Oshry
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Jackie Oshry
T. Thank you, Code Turt.
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Claudia Oshry
You're welcome.
- [31:05]
Jackie Oshry
Our first story, some big news from this weekend. Jason Kelsey has found himself in a bit of a scandal.
- [31:12]
Claudia Oshry
Not with me.
- [31:13]
Jackie Oshry
Here are the deets. So Jason Kelsey was at the Penn State Beaver game at Beaver Stadium. He attended the Ohio's Penn State football game on Saturday, November 2nd. As he was walking out of the stadium, people were trailing him, taking videos of him. And. And someone is heard saying, like, taunting him.
- [31:34]
Claudia Oshry
They said it twice.
- [31:35]
Jackie Oshry
Like, they said, hey, Kelsey, how does it feel? Your brother's a f. Slur. F. Slur. Dating Taylor Swift.
- [31:43]
Claudia Oshry
He said it twice.
- [31:45]
Jackie Oshry
And so at first we see a video where he hears that, and then he takes the guy's phone, he smashes it to the ground, and everyone's like, go, Jason Kelsey. You know, stand up for yourself and Taylor and Travis and the queer community, right? Then a few hours later, an alternate angle video emerged of the incident where after he slams the phone on the ground, he says, who's the F word slur now?
- [32:08]
Claudia Oshry
And I want to say I saw a lot of, like, dialogue and rhetoric thrown back and forth. Like, people immediately were like, well, that's not cool. I saw so many gay people, like, tweeting, like, I am okay with this. We give him a pass. Like, I'm so not. And not that I'm like, anyone to, like, give a decree, but, like, my. Like, I was not offended. Like, I literally. I loved the response. Like, this kid was such a weasel. Like, you have to watch his video. He's trailing him, repeating it, like, trying really to get to Jason Kelsey. And I don't know why Jason Kelce, like, forgets that he's famous. I said this at the Aerostorial. He literally walked to the yellow parking lot. Like, he doesn't walk with security. He doesn't act like a famous person. So he's literally, like, walking the streets. Like, he needs to start taking the underground tunnels that other celebrities take because, like, he is so famous. I feel like he doesn't understand, like, his real place in culture. Like, what are you doing? Walking with this rat. Like, why does this rat even have the opportunity to get close to you? This kid's such a loser. I love that Jason Kelsey destroyed his personal property. And you know that this kid will not, like, sue or. Because we don't know his name. Right? Like, he's just at. He has the gift of being anonymous. Like, I don't know what. He hasn't been doxed. He should be like, where is Right?
- [33:14]
Jackie Oshry
If he goes to sue, Jason Kelsey will know his name, his employer, his school will know that he uses language like this, and it won't be good for him. That is a really good point. I did see, like, you know, of course I saw, like, the people, like, back, like, cancel Jason Kelsey fighting hate with hate. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I did also see, probably more than that. I saw people like, no, we'll give this one a pass. No, it's.
- [33:35]
Claudia Oshry
No. And the f slur has, like, a really unique place in gay culture. Like, they embrace it a lot. And of course it gets used as, like, a hateful rhetoric, like that little shit from Penn State. But they actually really, I think, love and embrace the word. And it's become, like, a term of endearment a little bit. So the fact that, like, what for? Mostly I saw, like, people on social media, like, giving an allowance to Jason Kelce. Like, I loved it. Cause I've. Like, he obviously wasn't using it in a hateful way. This guy was such a little shit, he needed to be punched in the face. But obviously Jason Kelsey couldn't do that. So, like, this was the next best thing. I have. I have really no issues. Like, do I think Jason Kelsey is a homophobe? No, I have no issues. I think he was really standing up for Taylor, his family, and the community in general. Like, I don't give a fudge.
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Jackie Oshry
Yeah, I do agree. And also, it's a case of trust your faves. Like, if you think Jason Kelce has, like, bad intent that he use that word in, like, in a hateful way, then. Then you obviously don't think highly of Jason Kelsey. But if you do think highly of Jason Kelsey, you'll give him the benefit of the doubt to say, like, that's not what he meant and he wasn't being hateful towards anyone other than that person.
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Claudia Oshry
You are 100% right that this is another case where we should be trusting our faves.
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Jackie Oshry
Yes. So I will trust in Jason Kelsey's intent.
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Claudia Oshry
I'm assuming that he's going to address this. It became a huge story, like, I'm assuming he's going to address it on his podcast. He'll probably apologize just because he feels like it's the right thing to do and he doesn't want, you know, any sort of, like, stain on his record. But I personally don't think that's necessary.
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Jackie Oshry
Yeah, they'll definitely address it because they seem to address everything that happens, whether they go in deep or just like, oh, yeah, that happened. Yeah, he'll address it. Yeah. Well, it'll be interesting to see what sort of tone he takes, but I think that he'll handle it.
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Claudia Oshry
Yeah, it's handled. But, you know, they're so famous, and because they're like, athletes, they're like this other level of fame. Like, they have their own serial thing with, like, they're really very, like, brand safe. Right. Like, they are like, the Wheaties guys. Like, they're.
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Jackie Oshry
They are, but also. But, like, athletes actually typically aren't.
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Claudia Oshry
I know. So they're in, like, a weird position a little bit where, like, you know, something like this. While I don't think it's had any implication on their business because there hasn't been, like, overwhelming backlash, this isn't something they normally find themselves in because they are, like, on cereal boxes. They're like America's sweethearts, kind of.
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Jackie Oshry
Yeah.
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Claudia Oshry
They have to be a little protective. So I'm sure that he will do, like a kind of a PC, like, just acknowledge.
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Jackie Oshry
He'll make it right.
- [35:49]
Claudia Oshry
He'll make it right for that reason. Yeah. Athletes don't give a fuck most of the time. Like, they don't have to. They don't play these stupid Internet games. Like.
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Jackie Oshry
Yeah, but I also feel like there's not a huge contingency of people who hate him, who, no matter what he says, like, won't forget. Like, I think he's mostly loved. And who. I mean, seriously, who hates Jason Kelsey?
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Claudia Oshry
It's so true. He's like a national treasure.
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Jackie Oshry
So. And I think the people who might hate him, like, are irrelevant to his work.
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Claudia Oshry
Like, I just don't know how you don't watch that video. And, like. Like, that kid. Oh, my God, I only wish the worst for him. Like, what are you doing?
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Jackie Oshry
He.
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Claudia Oshry
And you really have to watch it. Like, he says it multiple times. He's so taunting. He was so desperate, like, trying to really provoke a reaction. And the fact that he got his phone broken, like, serious. I can't really put into words how much joy that brings me. Like, it was truly the definition of fuck around and find out, like, get the fuck away from me, you little rat.
- [36:37]
Jackie Oshry
Always a good message.
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Claudia Oshry
Always a good message. And, you know, I know that celebrities are supposed to, like, rise above and, like, be better than the trolls, but, like, I love when they get down and dirty and, like, really give people a taste of their own medicine. This was a gorgeous, gorgeous example.
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Jackie Oshry
I think this was him rising above, though.
- [36:53]
Claudia Oshry
Thousand percent.
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Jackie Oshry
Like, let's redefine what it means to rise above.
- [36:57]
Claudia Oshry
Let's redefine what it means to rise above. I agree.
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Jackie Oshry
Like, why does rise above just, like, mean? Ignore nothing and take it? What about teach this person a lesson and rise.
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Claudia Oshry
Right. Rise and teach and learn and give. Yeah, I agree. I completely agree.
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Jackie Oshry
Like, so it's really nice that he rose above the situation and handled it.
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Claudia Oshry
And taught this boy a lesson. I just, like, what is going through, like, obviously, like, his people who know him, like, his classmates, like, they know that it's him. So his name, like, might get out because he's, like, anonymous to us, but to his small, irrelevant circle, he's not. And so one person, all it takes is one person talking to the Daily Mail, you know?
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Jackie Oshry
Yeah.
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Claudia Oshry
So, because he hasn't, like, he really should feel, like, the full repercussions of, like, the Internet knowing you speak like that. Like, we all know now, and that has implications on your personal life, your work life, your school life. Like, I'm kind of. I'm kind of down.
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Jackie Oshry
Yeah. So if one also, like, recording himself. So it's like, it's not like he thought he was saying it in secret.
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Claudia Oshry
It's so true. But he was going to post it on, like, his private Snapchat with, like, his three friends being like, good one, bro. Good one.
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Jackie Oshry
I can't imagine he's, like, very far in life with a mouth like that.
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Claudia Oshry
Yeah.
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Jackie Oshry
I hate like, that in his heart.
- [38:10]
Claudia Oshry
I just need. I know there's, like, a swifty who, like, takes Econ one on one with him, and I need her to speak to the Daily Mail. We need names. Name them.
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Jackie Oshry
Yeah.
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Claudia Oshry
I fucking hate this kid.
- [38:20]
Jackie Oshry
Yeah, well, we'll see what happens with Jason, but I think he'll be okay.
- [38:24]
Claudia Oshry
I think he'll be okay.
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Jackie Oshry
Are you ready for our next story?
- [38:28]
Claudia Oshry
I am.
- [38:28]
Jackie Oshry
The girlies were out and about at the LACMA Art and Film Gala 2021.
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Claudia Oshry
Because those two events that we never understand always Lack and Laura, those two, like, galas where every famous person goes to, and you have no idea what they're actually attending or raising money for. They happen, like, you know, week back to back. So I guess it's that time of year.
- [38:48]
Jackie Oshry
So this was the LACMA Art and Film Gala, which honored artist Simone Lay and filmmaker Baz Luhrmann.
- [38:56]
Claudia Oshry
And this is the one where they take pictures in front of, like, those lamps, right?
- [38:59]
Jackie Oshry
Yes. At the LA County Museum of Art.
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Claudia Oshry
Lack.
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Jackie Oshry
Which is different from the LA County Museum of Film, which is where they were last week.
- [39:08]
Claudia Oshry
So that was lack of. And this week they're at lacama.
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Jackie Oshry
Yes. And so I think the headline making news was that Kim was there wearing a necklace, a cross necklace that she bought at auction from Princess Diana's estate.
- [39:24]
Claudia Oshry
Right. When she bought the necklace, there was a lot of backlash because they're like, we don't want this trash with Princess Anna. And, like, I didn't give a fudge. Like, she has the money. She bought it. It's free country. Go cry about it. Like, seriously now. I did not like what she was wearing because, I don't know, I feel like it's a dress we've seen her in a million times. Like, tits out for the boys, white shawl. Like, it's just. I don't know, maybe I'm in, like, a little bit of, like, a hater era, but it's like, do something different. Surprise us. Like, we're plaid. I don't know. It was just like, do a flip. You're telling me she hasn't worn this before? I was shocked. Now, I know some of the, you know, Christian swirlies were like, also, can you not take this big cross and put it between your breasts? Like, it was a little. And you know what? I kind of feel that, like, if somebody wore a big Jewish jar and, like, their nipples, like, I would be like. Like, I don't know about that.
- [40:05]
Jackie Oshry
A Jewess, though, because she's actually, like, pretty religious. So if it was, like, a Jewess who was firm in her, but, like.
- [40:12]
Claudia Oshry
A religious Jewess would never wear their tits off.
- [40:14]
Jackie Oshry
Okay. I guess because it's like, there's, like, modesty, but, like, someone who's like, a big Jew. Big Jew wearing a big Jewish jar between her breasts. I actually, like. I would.
- [40:23]
Claudia Oshry
You would like it?
- [40:24]
Jackie Oshry
I don't know that I would like it, but I don't think I would dislike it.
- [40:27]
Claudia Oshry
I don't know. I'm.
- [40:28]
Jackie Oshry
It depends on.
- [40:28]
Claudia Oshry
I'm very protective, and I don't like. And we're just desperate because there is no, like, real Jewish representation anywhere. Like, positively okay here.
- [40:35]
Jackie Oshry
So here. If Gal Gadot was wearing a, like, wearing this dress, and I would love it.
- [40:40]
Claudia Oshry
I would Love it. You're right. Yeah, yeah. Okay.
- [40:41]
Jackie Oshry
And it was like, Princess Diana's Jewish sisters.
- [40:44]
Claudia Oshry
Yeah. We know who's like, a. Like, Elizabeth Taylor. She was okay. Gaga. Don't. At auction, but Elizabeth Taylor's, like, big Jewish star. And then I wore it with, like, a plunging. I would be so happy. Okay, you're right. You're right, you're right, you're right, you're right, you're right.
- [40:56]
Jackie Oshry
So not to say, like, you guys can't be offended, but I'm just saying, like, because you were saying if it was me, but I actually don't think so. That's all I'm saying.
- [41:02]
Claudia Oshry
I. Yeah, I know. You're right. I would not be offended.
- [41:04]
Jackie Oshry
But you guys, if you're one of those desperate. Right.
- [41:07]
Claudia Oshry
I'm so desperate. But the look in general, I was just, like, so underwhelmed by. And it reminded me of, like. What did it remind me of? It was just like, it. It didn't remind me of anything. It was just like, this fatigue. I'm like, you're still doing this?
- [41:26]
Jackie Oshry
Like, yeah, especially. She went to the other one without pants, and now she got this one without a shirt.
- [41:32]
Claudia Oshry
Like, it's so true. It's like, do something different. Like, you have access to every designer clothing stylist. Like, do something crazy, you know?
- [41:41]
Jackie Oshry
Yeah, yeah.
- [41:41]
Claudia Oshry
Well, besides.
- [41:43]
Jackie Oshry
Well, also, at this event, people don't dress crazy. They actually dress, like, incredibly beautifully.
- [41:48]
Claudia Oshry
Yeah.
- [41:48]
Jackie Oshry
And not things that take, you know, an artist's gaze to appreciate. It's just, like, beautiful women in pretty dresses, and I enjoy that. So, like, Blake Lively was there. She looking great.
- [41:59]
Claudia Oshry
Kaia Gerber was there, looking parts definition, licious, partialicious definition.
- [42:05]
Jackie Oshry
Car Delevingne was there, looking beautiful as well. And also, Cardellavine is, like, looks really well, and I'm really happy for her.
- [42:13]
Claudia Oshry
Yeah, we, like, forget. Because she really bounced back very quickly. But there was, like, a brief period where it was clear that she was struggling with something, and she ended up taking time off, going to some sort of facility. And you know what? Ever since, like, she. You're right. She really bounced back. She looks so healthy and so happy, and she looks great. I'm looking at pictures. She really does.
- [42:31]
Jackie Oshry
Laura Dern, how you doing? Laura Dern was there.
- [42:34]
Claudia Oshry
I love Laura Dern. Like, I'm sorry. She's so funny to me. Like, I like her. Yeah. She's like, I'll watch a movie if she's in it.
- [42:43]
Jackie Oshry
You know, She's a really good actress. I like what I said. Really? It Sounds like I dislike her. I don't, like. I'm, like, totally, like, neutral.
- [42:50]
Claudia Oshry
Yeah. And she's just a part of that crew. Like, that Reese Witherspoon Big Little Lies crew.
- [42:55]
Jackie Oshry
Yeah. A lot of, like, random swirlies were at this event. Like, pretty much anyone who's anyone. If you were in town, like, hit up the lacma.
- [43:03]
Claudia Oshry
Yeah. Charlie xcx, Troye Sivan, Andrew Garfield, Ellie Goulding. I love ASA Gonzalez. I feel like she, like, didn't take off in the way that she should have.
- [43:12]
Jackie Oshry
You know she just got married, right?
- [43:15]
Claudia Oshry
Oh, yeah. And Anna Kendrick was there in. In what could be one of the ugliest dresses I've ever seen, like, be made.
- [43:20]
Jackie Oshry
I just. I'm shot on a jock. Hold on.
- [43:23]
Claudia Oshry
It's like, vomit green with a bow.
- [43:25]
Jackie Oshry
It is those things.
- [43:27]
Claudia Oshry
Oh, Queen Beyonce's mom was there in.
- [43:28]
Jackie Oshry
A black suit promoting her new book.
- [43:31]
Claudia Oshry
I mean, wouldn't you.
- [43:32]
Jackie Oshry
Yeah.
- [43:33]
Claudia Oshry
Anyways, Rachel Zoe was there. I feel like this may be the first time she stepped out, like, really publicly since she announced her divorce. She looked gorgeous. Oh, I love what she's wearing. Like, a gold gown. Really? Blake Lively's up there for. She also looks great at that other event.
- [43:47]
Jackie Oshry
Lack enough page six on my iPad. Isn't formatted correctly when they do these slideshows. And so everyone is like. You know when you would, like, take a picture and, like, not oriented properly and just bring down the top and you get, like, disproportionate.
- [44:01]
Claudia Oshry
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- [44:02]
Jackie Oshry
So that's what I'm looking at. But still, Kathy Hilton looks beautiful disproportionately.
- [44:06]
Claudia Oshry
That's so funny. Yeah. By the way, it was very well attended in terms of, like, a listers. Like, why? I don't get it.
- [44:13]
Jackie Oshry
I mean, I don't know. It's a fun. Oh, Victoria Tretti, my girl, was there.
- [44:18]
Claudia Oshry
Wait, do we have it as a story that Nina Dobrev got engaged?
- [44:22]
Jackie Oshry
We did it last week.
- [44:23]
Claudia Oshry
We did.
- [44:24]
Jackie Oshry
Yeah.
- [44:25]
Claudia Oshry
Are you sure? With Ben. With Ben, right?
- [44:29]
Jackie Oshry
Yeah. Yeah.
- [44:30]
Claudia Oshry
Okay.
- [44:31]
Jackie Oshry
And the sneakers.
- [44:32]
Claudia Oshry
The cd.
- [44:34]
Jackie Oshry
CD sneakers.
- [44:35]
Claudia Oshry
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Dc.
- [44:37]
Jackie Oshry
Wow.
- [44:38]
Claudia Oshry
Yeah.
- [44:38]
Jackie Oshry
Okay.
- [44:38]
Claudia Oshry
No, by the way, like, it was really hot in here on. On Halloween. I apologize.
- [44:43]
Jackie Oshry
No worries. Are you ready for our next story?
- [44:46]
Claudia Oshry
Yeah, I guess we're moving past the lack of. Okay.
- [44:48]
Jackie Oshry
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't want to fall down a Forbes creator hole.
- [44:51]
Claudia Oshry
Yeah. Okay. You're right. You're right, you're right. We need to, like, pull ourselves out of it.
- [44:55]
Jackie Oshry
We did the highlights, you know.
- [44:56]
Claudia Oshry
Yeah, no, we did our part.
- [44:57]
Jackie Oshry
It's not the Met Gala.
- [44:59]
Claudia Oshry
Yeah.
- [44:59]
Jackie Oshry
Though they try.
- [45:01]
Claudia Oshry
No, it's giving, like an attempt at a west Coast Met Gala. These events. That's such a good call.
- [45:05]
Jackie Oshry
Yeah. Honestly, everyone looks nicer for these.
- [45:08]
Claudia Oshry
Yeah. Because there's no theme where people have to look stupid.
- [45:10]
Jackie Oshry
Yeah. Our next story is actually some surprising news that Teddy Mellencamp has announced, shocked that she is filing for divorce from her husband Edwin, after 13 years of marriage.
- [45:22]
Claudia Oshry
Added to the list of celebrities doing things that are actually shocking to me. Like, I was. I follow her on Instagram, so I just like, opened Instagram and it was right there. I was genuinely surprised.
- [45:29]
Jackie Oshry
Just out of nowhere, she announced in an Instagram post, after a great deal of care and consideration, I've made the difficult decision to file for divorce, not a separation. Even though they've been like, as of two weeks ago, they were like, spotted out. They went to an event, kissing, taking pictures, my priorities, my children. And ensuring that every care is taken with their privacy and well being throughout this new chapter. Making a public statement is not something I wanted to do, but in an effort to protect my family from undue speculation and rumors, I felt being open, honest, and vulnerable was the best past, best path forward.
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Claudia Oshry
I was surprised because, you know, people had a lot to say about Teddy Mellencamp's time on Beverly Hills. They really didn't like her. I didn't have, like, a real issue with her and I actually, she had a really strong marriage. Like, yeah, they also went through a lot. Like, there. They had a baby somewhat recently who had, like, health issues. Teddy herself had health issues. She's had like a million skin cancer scares. Like, I always felt like they actually had a really strong marriage.
- [46:21]
Jackie Oshry
Yeah. This is really surprising. And also Page Six notes, one week ago, they were at a charity gala. Like, taking pictures, kissing on the lips.
- [46:28]
Claudia Oshry
You know, the streets, how to go.
- [46:29]
Jackie Oshry
From that to filed for divorce. It's giving like something happened.
- [46:33]
Claudia Oshry
The streets said that, you know, he stepped out. You know, that's what they said. I have no proof, allegedly, that it's.
- [46:40]
Jackie Oshry
It feels. It's as though it's something like that. Like something happened overnight. Can't get over it. Like, there's no moving past this.
- [46:48]
Claudia Oshry
Yeah. Now it's obviously devastating, of course. And I want to say that since leaving the show, Teddy Mellencamp has. Has really tried hard to stay relevant within the Bravo universe and has done a very good job. She has a very popular podcast, and.
- [47:01]
Jackie Oshry
She probably has one of the most successful Bravo. Bravo Housewife podcast. Like, yeah, I don't even know who would be, like, second safe.
- [47:09]
Claudia Oshry
And, you know, sadly, like, divorce is really good for a podcast. So I'm happy. Like, I know she wants that. Like, not at the expense, obviously, of her family. So I'm just saying, like, very small silver lining for her.
- [47:19]
Jackie Oshry
Yeah. But I think even from her statement, like, I don't think that she's going to share. I don't know.
- [47:25]
Claudia Oshry
I think she will.
- [47:27]
Jackie Oshry
Usually I'm like, it's only a matter of time before. So, like, Brianna, chicken fry. Like, we will know one day soon. And she said she's getting back to recording soon. She had a really restorative week back home.
- [47:35]
Claudia Oshry
Oh, did she? I saw she, like, they didn't record an episode of BFFs. Like, she wasn't ready. Yeah.
- [47:39]
Jackie Oshry
And she was. Like, she was not podcasting. She was taking time off. But then I saw this morning, I saw that she had posted. Like, I'm getting back to podcasting. I'm ready. Like, I feel great going back to the city. Like, let's go.
- [47:48]
Claudia Oshry
Oh, my God. We need the tell all of all. Tell all. Like, I'll be disappointed. I feel like she's really going to. Like, she knows that people are sad, and I feel like she's going to feed us.
- [47:56]
Jackie Oshry
I think she's going to feed us because also, like, and it is a totally different situation. They weren't married and they don't. So, like, I completely understand. My Teddy, like, wouldn't share. Even if she's been, like, wronged. Even if we would all galvanize around Teddy. Like, not at the expense of the way the children see their dad.
- [48:12]
Claudia Oshry
Yeah. You know, that's a thing.
- [48:13]
Jackie Oshry
Of course.
- [48:14]
Claudia Oshry
And I don't have kids, so I don't really understand it. It's something that maybe I'll, like, be, you know, regretting. Like, I'll disagree with myself in five years. Like, I hate that, like, when women don't, like, drag their husbands. And I was just having that.
- [48:28]
Jackie Oshry
Bless you.
- [48:29]
Claudia Oshry
Excuse me. Because you know who I love? Who did it, who didn't give a fuck was Kelly Clarkson. She's like, yeah, as the father of my kids, he's a dick, and you're gonna know about it. Like, I respect people's choices.
- [48:38]
Jackie Oshry
We only know about some Kelly stuff because of the legal things.
- [48:43]
Claudia Oshry
Right.
- [48:43]
Jackie Oshry
I think she didn't.
- [48:44]
Claudia Oshry
He opened the door.
- [48:45]
Jackie Oshry
I don't think she told us anything, actually. Like, we know what we had to know because it's filed and they were fighting.
- [48:50]
Claudia Oshry
No, but in the music.
- [48:53]
Jackie Oshry
Yeah, but no, to say it in the music is different anyway than a sit down tell all. It's different if you say it in the music. It's our. It's.
- [49:01]
Claudia Oshry
No, but I feel like she really wasn't shy about really villainizing him while also acknowledging that they had a beautiful marriage until they didn't. But like, I don't know these wi. And it's always the women, like they protect the father of their children and they did horrible things and like, maybe one day I'll understand it. I don't understand it. Like, seriously, you wrong me. I don't give a fuck who your daddy is. Like, you're done. You know, like, it really bothers me.
- [49:27]
Jackie Oshry
We'll check.
- [49:27]
Claudia Oshry
Maybe, maybe that's just like an immature, like, you know, thought of mine.
- [49:31]
Jackie Oshry
No, I. I do understand why you would feel that way. But I also.
- [49:35]
Claudia Oshry
It's like Kim and Kanye. Like, it's admirable until it's really not.
- [49:38]
Jackie Oshry
No, because I think like, you have to really think, like, what are you dragging him in the public for? Like at the end of the day for yourself. And that's selfish. And I think ultimately it reflects plurally on you. But not in Kel. Not for. I don't consider Kelly Clarkson because like I said, she didn't tell us anything. Just talk to every day and she didn't tell us anything.
- [49:55]
Claudia Oshry
I. I really.
- [49:56]
Jackie Oshry
I.
- [49:56]
Claudia Oshry
For. It wouldn't reflect poorly on that person. For me, I would say thank you. Like I wanted to know. And for their kids, people who do bad things, like, deserve to get dragged for it. And like, what? Because you're a dad, like, you're protected from that. And I don't see men doing that for women ever.
- [50:11]
Jackie Oshry
No, I understand Journey. And you raise an interesting point. This counter point that I will consider. Okay, but I, but I do understand and like, and it's not even like about. It's about like putting your kids private life like into the world and it's like that's there and then they go to school. It's like that's their life and everybody knows this garbage. Yeah, you're putting them together.
- [50:34]
Claudia Oshry
I get it.
- [50:36]
Jackie Oshry
So Teddy and Edwin. Oh, Ted win.
- [50:40]
Claudia Oshry
Really shocked. Do you think this at all moves a needle for her coming back to Beverly Hills? Like, I don't.
- [50:46]
Jackie Oshry
I don't. Beverly Hills coming back. Did I make that up?
- [50:52]
Claudia Oshry
I also feel like when you've cemented yourself as like a commentator on a show, like you can't be a cast mate. That's like what Joan Rivers always said, like she Never got invited. She never got a seat at the table because she was always commenting on the table.
- [51:02]
Jackie Oshry
I think she's in a better place now than she was when she was on the show and she should keep doing what she's doing, I think. Yeah, they've got it worked out really nicely.
- [51:09]
Claudia Oshry
Yeah. And Bravo, like, still keeps her in the fold. Like she goes to Bravo Con. They were like the official podcast of Bravo Con there. Iheartradio. Like, she's got a good thing going over there.
- [51:18]
Jackie Oshry
Yeah. Are you ready for our next story?
- [51:20]
Claudia Oshry
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Claudia Oshry
Thank you Jack so much. Nobody doesn't add read like you.
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Jackie Oshry
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Claudia Oshry
She's got passion for passion.
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Jackie Oshry
I've got passion for our brands.
- [56:06]
Claudia Oshry
That's so beautiful.
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Jackie Oshry
Another thing that I have passion about which I, I, I don't know that you do. I think you do. I did think you have passion for this is our next story and that is the long awaited lineup for the Macy's Thanksgiving Day Parade.
- [56:20]
Claudia Oshry
You know what, the Macy's Going to Parade is like a cultural event that I personally have a lot of interest in. I know I'm unique in that this is not the Forbes creator list. I don't think everybody cares as much as I do. But as a New Yorker who also like feels a weird, deep like nostalgic connection to the parade, like growing up, like my favorite memories is waking up with you guys and like laying on the floor of the den and watching. Like, I have such a crazy love for this parade. Like they could Never make me hate it. Now the budget has, like, severely gone down. I know. Nobody cares. They get, like, the most talentless hacks to lip sync. I don't care.
- [56:50]
Jackie Oshry
No, I know. And I do feel like in one's life, like, there are times when the Macy's Day Parade is important to you in times when it's not. And I do feel like until I became a parent, like, it wasn't important to me in the last five to 10 years. However, now as a parent, like, first of all, we're awake. And, like, you're awake or something. It's a long day. Mama's cooking. Like, I gotta get the kids buzzing. And, like, it's actually. Even though the performers that, like, I would love are maybe not there, you know, I don't see, like, Mimi Webb out there shaking that thing.
- [57:19]
Claudia Oshry
But Bluey is there.
- [57:20]
Jackie Oshry
But. But, like, the characters come through and it's really fun for them to see. Like, there's just a lot of really great stuff. So I am having a renaissance with the Macy's Thanksgiving Day Parade. And so this lineup means a lot to me.
- [57:32]
Claudia Oshry
I also meant to tell you, big thing that I did over the weekend is that I bought tickets to see Wicked on Thanksgiving Day weekend. Like, I feel like I thought they were all going to be sold out. I did get a good time and a good location and a good seat, but, like, it was definitely, like, tough.
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Jackie Oshry
Damn.
- [57:44]
Claudia Oshry
Yeah. I'm not messing around.
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Jackie Oshry
Are you going to sing?
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Claudia Oshry
It's going to be hard for me not to, but I really do want to hear, like, the vocals that are being served. So I personally will not be singing. And so much so, I actually might be, like, a little bit of a singing police. Like, if somebody near me is, like, humming or something, I will be asking them to stop. Like, it's annoying.
- [58:01]
Jackie Oshry
I think people are going to sing. No, no, no.
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Claudia Oshry
I know they should, by the way, because they're all doing three. They're doing 3D versions. So, like, there should be three different viewings. Sing along, 3D and regular.
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Jackie Oshry
I think it will also depend, like, what part of the country you live in.
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Claudia Oshry
Yeah. And I just want to say I am seeing the film on the Upper west side, where I feel like a lot of theater kids. It's by. It's by Lincoln Center. Like, I'm screwed.
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Jackie Oshry
Yeah. I think down here, I'll be in the clear.
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Claudia Oshry
I think so, too.
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Jackie Oshry
I don't think there's, like, gonna be a lot of people with, like, a singing voice that they want to shout from. The rooftops. But I do think you're fucked.
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Claudia Oshry
Yeah, no, I'm definitely fucked. I didn't even think about that.
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Jackie Oshry
I should have, like, go out to New Jersey to watch it.
- [58:45]
Claudia Oshry
Yeah. I don't know. Like, what region of the city would I would be safe in?
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Jackie Oshry
Safe? Well, on the one hand, the city's not safe because of the theater kids and, like, the Broadway tie. But on the other hand, like, city people, like, they all. They don't do stuff like that.
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Claudia Oshry
They don't. They don't fuck around.
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Jackie Oshry
So you might be safe, but I don't think so because of the aforementioned Broadway Ties.
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Claudia Oshry
Yeah. And, like, me being so close to Lincoln center, like, you know, that's where they lurk in dark alleys.
- [59:08]
Jackie Oshry
I think you're seriously fucked. Like that theater by me. You know, the one that my husband always wants to go to. Like, no one is singing there.
- [59:14]
Claudia Oshry
So, so true.
- [59:15]
Jackie Oshry
No one is singing Marked safe. Anyways. Macy's Thanksgiving Day Parade. Speaking of Wicked, the telecast will be led by Idina Menzel. Allison Brie.
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Claudia Oshry
I don't know if you saw that.
- [59:29]
Jackie Oshry
She wasn't there.
- [59:30]
Claudia Oshry
Yeah, but, like, others were.
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Jackie Oshry
Chris, you could say, oh, maybe she wasn't there because, like, she has stuff going on, like, Idina things, but she doesn't. Well, she's at the Macy's Thanksgiving Day for eight. So, like, the she. She.
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Claudia Oshry
Although I did see a video of, like, Ariana and Cynthia being, like, sending a video to Adina. Like, we love and miss you. Like, it, like, it appeared good, but it's weird.
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Jackie Oshry
Maybe they're fine with her, but something at Big Wicked is not ringing true to Idina. Maybe Bishop Briggs and T. Pain, who today hosts Savannah Guthrie. Hoda Copy and Al Roker will be on hand to present celebration.
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Claudia Oshry
The last year that Hoda does this. Or is this, like, one of her? Because she still has an NBC contract.
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Jackie Oshry
I think this is outside of the Daily show. And she'll still be on hand for.
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Claudia Oshry
Temple events because honestly, like, there is no today. There is no Thanksgiving Day parade without Hoda. Honestly.
- [60:20]
Jackie Oshry
Yeah. And Al Roker, actually. I feel like for me, I associate him even more.
- [60:24]
Claudia Oshry
I completely forgot to share that I walked past Al Roker the other day in the street and he seemed to be doing well.
- [60:30]
Jackie Oshry
I'm glad. Was he getting ready? Remember when he day.
- [60:32]
Claudia Oshry
Do you remember when he peed live? Like, he didn't know his microphone was on and he was, like, peeing in the middle of. Do you remember that?
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Jackie Oshry
No, I.
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Claudia Oshry
Actually, that's one of my Favorite Al Roker moments. He's. He's a king.
- [60:41]
Jackie Oshry
He is also joining the parade with special appearances are Jimmy Fallon and the Roots, Kylie Cantral, Leah Salaga, Jonathan Bennett, Liza Colin Zayas, Tom Kenny, Gina Claire Mason. And members.
- [60:54]
Claudia Oshry
Are you just making up these names? I've never heard of these people.
- [60:58]
Jackie Oshry
And members of the WNBA champions New York Liberty with their mascot, Ellie the Elephant.
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Claudia Oshry
Okay, so. So when you say lineup, are you talking about, like, for NBC? Like, these are people who are coming through the broadcast?
- [61:14]
Jackie Oshry
No.
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Claudia Oshry
You're kidding. Like, who? I didn't. Nobody. Are any of these people singers? Who's singing?
- [61:20]
Jackie Oshry
I don't know. Beside. I wouldn't know if they are singers. Besides the traditional high flying inflatables, marching bands and parade floats, the NBC telecast will also feature performing casts from Broadway shows like Death Becomes Her, Hell's Kitchen and the Outsiders, as well as the iconic Rockettes, of course.
- [61:37]
Claudia Oshry
Oh, my God, I love the Rockettes. To me, New York at Christmas. What a sight. Like, I fucking love the Rockettes. Whenever I see those bitches doing their thing, like, I'm like, oh, it's Christmas time, bitch.
- [61:49]
Jackie Oshry
Then there's gonna be some new character balloons for. This is exciting. Disney's Minnie Mouse. That's major.
- [61:56]
Claudia Oshry
She's never been.
- [61:57]
Jackie Oshry
She's never been. I guess. Then Extraordinary. Nora and Elf on the Shelf. Okay. Gabby from DreamWorks Animation. I don't know her. Goku from Dragon Ball. Don't know. Spin Master. And Nickelodeon's Marshall and Spider man by Marvel. Which Spidey is having a major moment in my house in this show. Spidey and his amazing Friends. Like, I feel like it's really. People are really getting into it. Go.
- [62:21]
Claudia Oshry
Let's go. Go. Let's go. Go. Let's go. Okay, so.
- [62:26]
Jackie Oshry
Oh, my God. Harry's gonna lose his mind. That's actually, like, really me. I couldn't have asked for a better character to be introduced.
- [62:31]
Claudia Oshry
It's clear I'm, like, not in tune with what the kids are up to. I'd never heard of half those people.
- [62:34]
Jackie Oshry
And I think Marshall is from Paw Patrol. He's the Dalmatian firefighter.
- [62:38]
Claudia Oshry
I know Paw Patrol. I'm happy. That's cool. That's cool. I'm going to watch and like, maybe I'll be eating my words, but, like, this sounds horrible.
- [62:46]
Jackie Oshry
Yeah, it does. But I also think that the big names haven't been confirmed yet. Like, there will be. There will be some country singers. Like, there will be people that we know. And I just think, like, those announcements Will be forthcoming. Okay.
- [62:59]
Claudia Oshry
Yeah. I feel like Megan Maroney is going to do it because she has a new song. It's like I want a cowboy for Christmas or something. Like, that's cute. Yeah.
- [63:05]
Jackie Oshry
She's like. Would be perfect for it.
- [63:07]
Claudia Oshry
Yeah. It's like an interesting level of fame because you have to be willing to, like, you know, ditch your family and friends on Thanksgiving. And most celebrities, like, they. It's not worth it for them.
- [63:15]
Jackie Oshry
Well, yeah, it means that you wouldn't be, like, in your hometown, but if you're local or in the tri state area, like, you get to go to the parade. Your kids get a great seat.
- [63:22]
Claudia Oshry
Andy Cohen always shows up. Literally does 30 seconds of work for NBC so he can get a seat with his kids.
- [63:27]
Jackie Oshry
So cute. And then you go home and have the big. The big day. Turkey Turkalicious.
- [63:34]
Claudia Oshry
Oh, you're not gonna. I was gonna say who's cooking? But you're away.
- [63:37]
Jackie Oshry
I'm away. Yeah. I will not. This will be the first Thanksgiving in two years that I'm not. I guess I only cooked twice, but still, it's like a really big deal.
- [63:44]
Claudia Oshry
Yeah.
- [63:45]
Jackie Oshry
That I'm not cooking. So I can just relax, put my feet up.
- [63:48]
Claudia Oshry
Finally.
- [63:48]
Jackie Oshry
Finally. Are you ready for our fifth and final story?
- [63:51]
Claudia Oshry
I am.
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Jackie Oshry
It's a Martha news. Because I'm in my Martha era and she's like, beefing with her neighbor Ryan Reynolds.
- [63:57]
Claudia Oshry
I absolutely adore this exchange. Like, as if I couldn't love. I'm on a Martha Stewart high. Obviously, anything she does like, I would be gassing up. But this in particular I enjoyed.
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Jackie Oshry
So a lot of things happening. Martha Stewart is saying that her neighbor Ryan Reynolds is actually not funny in real life. She said. On an episode of Built Rewards is November rent free game show with founder and Turdy's friend. Encore.
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Claudia Oshry
She said, I know famous people.
- [64:23]
Jackie Oshry
She said, you want to know something? He's not so funny in real life. No, he's not so funny. He's very serious. She said. And that, like, just got so much news.
- [64:32]
Claudia Oshry
Yeah.
- [64:32]
Jackie Oshry
Then Hugh Jackman chimed in.
- [64:34]
Claudia Oshry
No, Ryan Reynolds chimed in first.
- [64:36]
Jackie Oshry
Yes, yes, yes. Ryan Reynolds chimed in first saying.
- [64:39]
Claudia Oshry
He responded. Somebody tweeted like a quote, like a direct quote of what Martha said.
- [64:43]
Jackie Oshry
And then he said, Ryan Reynolds said, I disagree with her, but I tried that once. The woman is unexpectedly spry. She really closed the gap after a mile or so. I couldn't tell you what this means.
- [64:56]
Claudia Oshry
Me neither. And I feel like he's only proving Martha's point. She literally said he wasn't funny. And he's obviously trying to be funny. And like, I actually don't get it.
- [65:01]
Jackie Oshry
And then Hugh Jackman replied and he's always like sparring with Ryan Reynolds even though they're best friends and they go see Taylor together. But he said, finally someone says it about Ryan not being funny.
- [65:09]
Claudia Oshry
Yeah.
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Jackie Oshry
And obviously he phoned it in because he's like in bed with Sutton and it's like, okay, right, right. He got his like Spidey alert that someone's talking about Ryan Reynolds and he has to join in. But yeah, it's back to Sutton.
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Claudia Oshry
If Hugh Jackman knew. Like, we've actually said it many times. Like, Martha's not the first. So just important to note, I, like, I know Martha Stewart, like, doesn't give a fine fuck what these two have to say. Like, she said what she said, she meant what she said and she's probably right.
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Jackie Oshry
Do you not? I thought she was joking like, that. She was. It was giving like, you know, she has her.
- [65:40]
Claudia Oshry
You know, she's, she's so matter of fact, I think she was seriously being like, everyone says this guy's so funny. Like, I literally live next to him. He's not funny.
- [65:47]
Jackie Oshry
Yeah.
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Claudia Oshry
Did you see that somebody. I don't know who it was, but Martha's like, obviously just like doing a lot of press in this moment. And somebody like went up to her with a microphone, was like, what do you think about the trad wife phenomena? And she was like, oh, I like that girl who lives on the ranch. I like her. Martha's like, I'm not crazy about the term trad wife, but like, I like what that girl does.
- [66:06]
Jackie Oshry
Oh my God. When your collabs collide.
- [66:09]
Claudia Oshry
Yeah, they need to collab.
- [66:10]
Jackie Oshry
They do need to collab.
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Claudia Oshry
She was literally like so matter of fact about it. She was like, I mean, she has this amazing life. These beautiful. She's like an amazing mom. She makes beautiful meals, beautiful cows, beautiful milking. Like it was. She knew a lot.
- [66:23]
Jackie Oshry
Oh, my God, I'm obsessed.
- [66:24]
Claudia Oshry
Yeah.
- [66:24]
Jackie Oshry
Oh my God. Martha needs like a network like mag, which she should have had when, before everything was ripped away from her. Yeah, she needs a network like Magnolia Network sword and like to be cultivating talent. If she likes someone, like, give them a show. Like, we need a balance.
- [66:36]
Claudia Oshry
She's like, later season of her life. Like, she's done working so hard. She worked so hard for so many years and nobody fudgeing care.
- [66:43]
Jackie Oshry
I agree she's not going to do it now, but that's like what we were Robbed of. That's where Martha Stewart Omni Living Omnipresent was going.
- [66:51]
Claudia Oshry
Yeah. Such a bad name. What was that? Omnimedia.
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Jackie Oshry
But it was. She was the first one to do it. So now it would be like Martha Stewart Networks or Martha Stewart Media. But she was coming up with a new name for, like, this concept that no one had.
- [67:04]
Claudia Oshry
New industry.
- [67:05]
Jackie Oshry
Yeah. And she came up with Omni Media. And it wasn't the right word.
- [67:09]
Claudia Oshry
And it is what it is.
- [67:10]
Jackie Oshry
If the stock was like, MSLO mislead.
- [67:13]
Claudia Oshry
And every time they said it, I was like, what?
- [67:15]
Jackie Oshry
Who, dad?
- [67:16]
Claudia Oshry
What the hell is Omnimedia?
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Jackie Oshry
And then also I was watching her cooking show. And one thing she does that, like, I don't love is there's always people in the kitchen with her. And she's like, she has her, like, head of brand, so she's like, teaching to cook. And it's like, martha, just teach me, please. Okay. I don't need to, like, watch Kevin. However, like, Kevin actually makes me laugh a little bit, I hate to admit. But in general, I don't like that. Like, get everyone else, like, just you and me in the kitchen.
- [67:41]
Claudia Oshry
And that's the magic of Martha. And that's what people fell in love with.
- [67:43]
Jackie Oshry
Like, and even their names. Like, he's like the EVP of content at blah, blah, blah. It's like, Claudia, it's like another worst, like, company medium. Like, what this?
- [67:51]
Claudia Oshry
Wait, also, I was looking for your birthday. I was like, as a little extra gift, gonna get you a Martha Stewart book. You know what they're selling for on Amazon?
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Jackie Oshry
300.
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Claudia Oshry
Yeah.
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Jackie Oshry
And you can't buy me a book for 300.
- [68:02]
Claudia Oshry
No. And it wasn't even like an amazing condition. It was like, beat the hell up.
- [68:05]
Jackie Oshry
And people said if I go to the library, they probably have it.
- [68:08]
Claudia Oshry
Can you steal it from the library?
- [68:11]
Jackie Oshry
I could check it out. Yeah. And then, by the way, if I fell in love with it and I was like, this book is changing my life. It's the best thing I've ever read. I would spend 300 on the one from Amazon.
- [68:19]
Claudia Oshry
Okay. By the way, go to the library.
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Jackie Oshry
I'm going to. I'm going to. So all's well that ends well at your local library, where you could also vote. But not today. There's no early voting today. If you haven't voted yet, you vote tomorrow.
- [68:29]
Claudia Oshry
Tomorrow. Don't forget to do that. Swirlies. We'll see you tomorrow.
- [68:32]
Jackie Oshry
And if you're making an election day chili in the crock pot, don't forget to start it early because you're going to need a lot of hours to simmer.
- [68:37]
Claudia Oshry
She's not wrong.
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Jackie Oshry
And that's all we got for you.
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Claudia Oshry
That's our show. You guys, thank you so much for listening to the toast and Monday morning show where we deliver the fastest stories you need to know. Every Monday, the Friday and YouTube's watching us on YouTube. Please don't forget to subscribe because video thumbs up. We're also available to podcast anywhere podcast can be found. So it's Spotify, Tune Stitcher, Public Radio. I already cast box all the places where we listen to podcast. We are.
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Jackie Oshry
Love you.
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Claudia Oshry
Bye.