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Jackie
Good morning, millennials.
Claudia
Welcome back to the toasted Happy the Her day. That feels like a real Thursday. You know what I'm saying?
Jackie
You know, that's not been my experience.
Claudia
Oh, my God. Just once, like, just a great. Like, for the sake of agreeing, like, nobody cares.
Jackie
My. Excuse me.
Claudia
Like, it's not that deep. Like, yeah, it feels like a Thursday. Oh. Because it is. Like, it's not that deep. Okay.
Jackie
Feels like a Thursday.
Claudia
Yes. I'm so glad you agree.
Jackie
Yeah. I couldn't have said it better myself.
Claudia
You look gorgeous. We're both wearing just kind of like, comfy, cozy energy.
Jackie
Today we're giving Jim.
Claudia
I'm wearing.
Jackie
Sometimes there's nothing cuter than a gray, like, zip up hoodie. I stole this from Olivia and she's not getting it back. Sorry.
Claudia
Gray is tough for me now that I've discovered that I think I'm a winter.
Jackie
Okay.
Claudia
So, like, I don't know, is gray a winter or a spring?
Jackie
Definitely not a spring.
Claudia
It might be an autumn.
Jackie
You should just get your colors done.
Claudia
I know. For the amount that I talk about it.
Jackie
Yeah. I think I have some. An email in my inbox. I need to read it and see if the person's in Florida, because then we should do it while you're here.
Claudia
Patreon. Oh, speaking of Patreon. Probably up today. I started the editing process last night. I vlogged my whole evening last night, which was my book club, which, with my private chef, catered a fair. It was so good, the book club. Like, everyone's talking about it. Everyone said it was, like, one of our best meetings yet. The food was so good, the conversation was so good. It's really a great book club book. Everyone liked the book. Had a lot of very strong critiques of the book. Did you hear about Kitty Cara? Was the name of the book really just kind of like a textbook perfect.
Jackie
Evening and a great book club book, you would say.
Claudia
Yeah, I. I have a. I'm, like, very frustrated. It was the author's first. First, like, debut novel, which is so major. I almost wish she had waited to tell the story. Like, she had a little bit more experience under her belt because she tried to do a little too much. And by the end of the book, it's like she ruined the magic she had created in the middle. And it was on its way to being, like, one of my favorite books ever.
Jackie
Wow.
Claudia
And I, like, was so frustrated with it. Like, I kind of hate it now. It's very confusing. And everybody was feeling the same way.
Jackie
Got it Interesting. What are you guys reading next?
Claudia
We'll find out today.
Jackie
Very cool. Well, redheads, speaking of book clubs, we are reading. Actually, this is kind of exciting. Big redheads news.
Claudia
Oh, my God.
Jackie
Hold your gird your loins. We're reading the Frozen river by Ariel Law Hen, who wrote Code Name Helene.
Claudia
Okay.
Jackie
Which makes this our first time that we're doing an author twice on the Redheads, and she's our.
Claudia
I didn't.
Jackie
I didn't think it would be her, but it's her.
Claudia
Yeah, but, like, who else would it be?
Jackie
Like, it could be, you know, one of the classics. Sally Hepworth.
Claudia
Yeah.
Jackie
Jessica Noel.
Claudia
Yeah, yeah.
Jackie
Christine Hannah.
Claudia
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Jackie
But it's Ariel Lahen, which. I love that for her. I loved Code Name Helene, so I'm really excited for Frozen River. It's a historical fiction book. It's, like, based on a true story, which I love. We haven't done historical fiction at the Redheads in a while, and in my personal life, I've kind of been slipping on my historical fiction.
Claudia
We cut. We caught Jack slipping.
Jackie
Caught me slipping. So I kind of need to get back into the history books, and I think that's a good way to dip my toe into the frozen river.
Claudia
I am so excited to see you in just a mere, you know, two days.
Jackie
Hours, technically, hours.
Claudia
At this point, I'm giddy with excitement. I can't wait to see my family. And it's just. It's the end of the week. I'm seeing my family. It's the Super Bowl. I have my health.
Jackie
No, it's.
Claudia
I.
Jackie
Everything's kind of coming up. Excitement, joyousness, positivity. Fun, fun, fun. I'm gonna leave it at that.
Claudia
I couldn't agree more. So important, like, when you're at, you know, the summit of something. Is that the right use of the word?
Jackie
Is the summit at the top or the way up?
Claudia
Like, it's like you're at the edge of the cliff. Like, you're, like, there.
Jackie
You're there. Okay. So.
Claudia
Okay, I guess maybe. No, maybe that wouldn't.
Jackie
I feel like.
Claudia
All I'm trying to say is, like, I feel like a huge part of, like, maintaining a healthy mindset in life is, like, to acknowledge, like, exciting things coming. And, like, I. In this moment, I just want to be very present, saying, I'm so excited for what's to come for me in the. In the next couple of days.
Jackie
The summit is the highest point.
Claudia
Okay. So I guess I'm, like, about to. To reach the summit, and I'm sitting here, like, taking a moment of gratitude.
Jackie
Yeah. And I think the way to the summit, the on the way to the summit is in some ways better than the summit.
Claudia
I would agree.
Jackie
Because you have what to look forward to. That's really the message of the climb.
Claudia
Yeah.
Jackie
So once again, the climb, it's always relevant.
Claudia
Once again, everything comes back to the climb.
Jackie
Well, that's the truth. I've been in such a Miley renaissance since the Grammys. I've been listening to Endless Summer Vacation because I was like, I want more of this girl, of that energy. What I didn't realize is the song used to be Young, which is one of my favorite songs of last year. We talked about it on the Patreon of 2023. Recap is from that album.
Claudia
Yeah.
Jackie
I thought it was like a new single. She was doing new things, so I'm like, okay, so there are two songs that are kind of, like, life changing for me from that album.
Claudia
Yeah.
Jackie
I need to listen to the whole album. And I. I only got into four songs before I was forced to play Happy Song.
Claudia
Oh. My book club was talking about Happy Song.
Jackie
Is it really life saving for them as well?
Claudia
Some of the mothers in book club, they were familiar with the Happy Song, and then some of the newer mothers hadn't heard of it yet. And this was like kind of the passing of the torch.
Jackie
Yeah. So I feel like there's someone out here there who needs to hear this. If you have a fussy baby, there's a song by Imogen Heap, who is a great talent. She sings Good night and go other bops, but she wrote a song for children called the Happy Song that is, like, melodically and chemically written to cheer up your baby. Give it a try.
Claudia
It's, like, designed to ease the mind.
Jackie
Yeah, give it a try next time. Baby is, like, fussy, and it's not because they're hungry or they're pooped or need a burp or this or that. Like, try the Happy Song. It works for us. Not all the time, but enough of the time.
Claudia
It worked magically. Oh, my God, Jackie. I forgot. I mean, I did tell you this, but I need to talk about. On the podcast. I'm going insanely viral.
Jackie
I heard.
Claudia
Okay. So I was looking through my TikTok drafts, like, just to see, like, things I haven't posted. And I forgot that I had made this TikTok while we were on our family vacation. And I never posted it. It was just this funny moment where we all got up from the Dinner table. And we realized that our sister Margo had eaten her dinner off of the charger, not the actual plate. And it was like this funny, stupid thing. I literally went to bed and I was like, oh, my God, 700,000 views. I woke up this morning. Now. 6.3 million.
Jackie
Claudia, the Universal no deal. Tick tock. Kerfuffle is great for you. No music.
Claudia
Okay. First, for a second, I was like, are you speaking English? The universal no deal Kerfuffle.
Jackie
Like, now it makes sense, though.
Claudia
No, you're totally right. Now the comments are really split. People being like, you are just, like, rich. This is such, like, a privileged first world problem. Even, like, a charger, like, you can literally get, like, at the dollar store for 65 cents. Like, have you ever been to a wedding? And then most people also being like, what is a charger? People, like, don't know what chargers are.
Jackie
I learned about chargers late in life, too.
Claudia
I think a lot of people learn about chargers when they get married.
Jackie
Yeah. When did I learn about chargers? I don't even think it was when I got married because I didn't register for chargers. But I.
Claudia
No, not. Not registered. Oh, like decor at your actual wedding. That's, I think, really when I learned what a charger was.
Jackie
Yeah. So it's like a plate that's just decorative. It's a. It's like a placemat made out of plate.
Claudia
But it's, like, really not made out of plate. It's not food safe.
Jackie
No, but it's. It's very akin to a plate. It's of the plate.
Claudia
Elk. Oh, it looks like a plate. But I'm talking about material wise. Sometimes they're, like, made of wood. They're not really safe to eat off of.
Jackie
No, no. But you could get confused. It looks like a plate. And unless it's. Especially when it's like, whatever.
Claudia
The material was the same shape.
Jackie
The shape. But even the material of the one that she ate off of was a little confusing. Except for the fact that, like, it was a charger.
Claudia
Yeah. So I'm just, like, kind of going majorly viral. Like all these, you know, like, like, buzzfeed type, like, accounts. Be like, we'd love to share your video. Please submit content and consent and approval here. Like, no. You think you're taking away my views? Eat my ass.
Jackie
You don't think it's gonna, like, help? Raise your rising tide, radish. Raise your shide.
Claudia
Do you think I should do it? No, no, no. I want all the clicks.
Jackie
You want all the clicks, but you don't. Like, you might need the distribution to get more clicks.
Claudia
We don't. We'll get there. Maybe I'll sign a distribution deal later on, but right now I'm just, like, kind of enjoying my moment.
Jackie
For sure. But don't. Oh, don't overplay your hand.
Claudia
So true.
Jackie
And you only have, like, minutes left before the world.
Claudia
Should I set it out?
Jackie
What was the publications? Anything legit?
Claudia
Yeah, like Lad Bible, you know, like all those big Facebook page type.
Jackie
Yeah, that's really how you get your name out there.
Claudia
Should I do it?
Jackie
I think Lad Bible you could do.
Claudia
I don't know, maybe. Yeah, like, maybe then we could do, like, I don't know, the Toast UK tour or something.
Jackie
I think it should be publication dependent. Not just like, all publications can have the video, but, like, worthy ones.
Claudia
Yeah, Yeah. I feel like Barstool Sports is, like, about to knock on my door. Like, they love to.
Jackie
Would you let them? But that's how you go viral.
Claudia
Because then, Jackie, what have they said about Israel? That's my litmus test. No, like, if one. If one Annie Lennox wanted to repost my video, you know what I would say? Turny says no. That's what I would say.
Jackie
No, Barstool is marked safe. Dave is good.
Claudia
Yeah, yeah, I would. I would give it to Barstool. I'll have to check what Lad Bible's been saying about the war in Israel.
Jackie
When barstool, like, then distributed, then so many more people see it. And that's how you end up on gma, Today's show.
Claudia
Oh, my God. By the way, what if I have to postpone my trip to see you because they want me on the Today Show.
Jackie
But what if. What if they want Margot? You're.
Claudia
That's interesting.
Jackie
You're not in the video.
Claudia
I sound like Madison Beer. But, like, I'm supposed to be in the video.
Jackie
It's.
Claudia
No, I am in the video.
Jackie
You just can't see me, the star. So.
Claudia
By the way, so is Shapiro. He's like, in the reflection of the window, like, cracking up at Margot.
Jackie
What if they want Margot and Shapiro on gma?
Claudia
Oh, then I won't sign over any rights and everybody can stay less famous.
Jackie
When I think about examples that are akin to what you're experiencing, it's the person on camera who Hoda wants to talk to, of course, not the sister who posted it. Unless sometimes the person could bring their sister and maybe she would bring you.
Claudia
Maybe she would bring me. Maybe I just won't forward the email that I get from The Today show producers asking to be connected with my sister.
Jackie
Also, you and Marco look alike. You could impersonate her.
Claudia
So true.
Jackie
Okay, you're gonna steal the shine.
Claudia
Yeah. Or maybe I'll just let this thing die. You know, no one else. If I can't get famous, no one else can.
Jackie
Not Rising tides raise all shines for the sisters. No, no, not since you're distant from your family.
Claudia
Yeah. Oh, and that's the other element. Like I am Aaron Rodgers. So no. Yeah, cut it. That's around.
Jackie
You don't even have her email.
Claudia
Exactly. I couldn't forward it to her if I wanted to.
Jackie
Sorry, Yoda.
Claudia
We, by the way, have an amazing show today.
Jackie
Yeah.
Claudia
Because we have the stories and. And tell me about them. How are they like them?
Jackie
There's a couple that feel like that just tickled my fancy. You know what I mean? And not because they're about Royal Caribbean or the Royal Family. I think it's just, like, things that say royal.
Claudia
No, don't say that.
Jackie
I'm gonna look into this. And then there's also the obvious. You know, what you've maybe seen in the headlines.
Claudia
I don't know what I've seen in the headlines, but what I do know is that with our new schedule today, we also have Dear Toasters. We have some very interesting sort of different ones. You know, I love different. We have a write in about stand up comedy.
Jackie
We have a story about stand up comedy.
Claudia
Wait, also, this next thing has nothing to do with stand up comedy. I just remember that I wanted to say it. So guess who I spoke to yesterday.
Jackie
Thanks.
Claudia
Well, I did. Yes. But that's not what I was gonna say. I spoke to my trainer, Hillary. She listens to the toast and she's gonna. She's gonna get us into 5K shape. She has, like, a whole plan. She found us a running coach. Like, we're done. We're good. We're done, we're done.
Jackie
That's.
Claudia
I. I'll be. I'll be able to, like, trade in person, but she's gonna make a plan, like, for all of us. Okay.
Jackie
Make a plan. Stay alert. Bring a snack.
Claudia
Yeah. Stop, drop and roll.
Jackie
Love that. Okay, great. Yeah. Also, I think what I've surmised is that maybe the 5k doesn't have a location because they're, like, not serious about it. And I think, like, maybe we took it really seriously.
Claudia
Oh, my God. Not me getting a running coach. And this whole thing's a joke.
Jackie
That's what I was, like, getting from the comments. Like, no, by the way, I think they just, like, say stuff.
Claudia
There. Oh, my God.
Jackie
They just, like, say stuff, and they're not kind of, like, doing it.
Claudia
There's no 5K. Oh, my God. Jackie. We named our episode title about the 5k, and there isn't even a 5k.
Jackie
I don't know that there isn't a 5k. But.
Claudia
Oh, no, Jackie. I was talking about it at my book club. I was like. I was like, I think Joe Rogan's gonna come. Jackie, there is no 5K. There's no 5K. There ever was a 5K. And that's why we weren't invited. And that's why.
Jackie
Yeah, that's why he can't tell us the location.
Claudia
Jackie, There is no 5K.
Jackie
No, not confirmed, but it's kind of the. The vibe I'm sensing.
Claudia
But I got a running coach.
Jackie
Maybe we do a toast. 5K?
Claudia
No. Like, I would never choose to do it, you know?
Jackie
Yeah. How do you.
Claudia
And I was only doing it. I was only doing it for, like, the thirsty element that I get to meet other more famous, successful people that, like, who could prop me up and give me attention and, like, followers and stuff. Like, let's be real. I don't run a 5k for fun.
Jackie
Yeah.
Claudia
I had a goal in mind.
Jackie
Charity.
Claudia
No, sorry. Like, I'll just donate. I'll write a check.
Jackie
Awareness.
Claudia
I'll post on Instagram.
Jackie
So we'll. We'll stay tuned. I mean, you never know. They could decide to take us seriously, but I'm just feeling like.
Claudia
And by the way, wait, wait, no. Now that I'm thinking about it, like, Bert never answered my dm. Like, after he. Like, I was like, oh. Like, we never connected. Like, it was just the story.
Jackie
There was nothing to connect over because.
Claudia
There'S no five guys. Cool, cool, cool. Yeah, there is no 5K. Okay. Cool, cool. That's so awesome me.
Jackie
Thanks.
Claudia
And, like, this was just, like, this little joke on their podcast that, like, and they didn't even mean to. But, like, an unintended consequence of this, like, funny joke from their podcast was, like, these two enormous losers showing how desperate and thirsty they are.
Jackie
But I just want to say this all started because Jelly Roll said he was running a 5K.
Claudia
Oh, I forgot Jelly Roll was going to be there.
Jackie
Yeah. And so People magazine was fooled, too, because that's where I saw it. But they are fools, so I don't know why I'm looping myself in with them.
Claudia
I like how, like, we're. Yeah, yeah, we're not fools. We didn't fall for it.
Jackie
You just can't believe everything you read on the Internet.
Claudia
I guess it's just so crazy when you, like, find out a piece of information that, like, just rejiggers the way you look at the world, you know.
Jackie
And it, like, and it all makes sense.
Claudia
I have, like. And why I really relate to this one particular Taylor Swift lyric. Like, in this moment, I've never been a natural. All I do is try, try, try. Like, I. I am genuinely, like, at my core, like a desperate person. Like, I don't. I don't really have any need to be. Like, I have a very full life. I'm very successful, thank God, Knock wood. Like, and this desperation, like, this deeply uncool thing about me I can't sort of shake. And now I've just been exposed by, like, for. For who I truly am.
Jackie
Maybe exposing it and showing it to the light is a way to kill it. You know, sunlight kills, right?
Claudia
I'm kind of like, Edward.
Jackie
You're Edward.
Claudia
Wow. Okay, so that sort of shook the foundation on which I walk.
Jackie
Yeah, but you should still train for the 5K with your running coach.
Claudia
I don't know about that.
Jackie
Let's get into the stories because as Charity stated, we have a lot to do today and best not waste time. Best to make haste. Without further ado, here are the fast five stories that you need to know.
Claudia
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Jackie
Thank you. Our first story, a little comedy drama. Pete Davidson ditches a Radio City warmup gig for Matt Rife at the last minute. So Matt Rife is performing a three night stand at Radio City Music Hall.
Claudia
Okay. On my way here, I pass like a billboard to those billboards that get like, put on construction sites. Yeah. And it was like, congrats, Matt Rife. Six sold out shows. So two shows a night for three nights. I was. That's huge.
Jackie
Yeah. And Pete Davidson had agreed to open for him. Warm up the crowd. But wait, they're. They're friends.
Claudia
Okay.
Jackie
According to Radio City insiders, he backed out just two hours before showtime. Backstage sources at the Rockefeller center institution say that Matt R's team had to scramble to find a backup and eventually got someone lined up with a matter of within a matter of minutes before the, the curtain went up. According to a social media post from the show, John Campanelli ended up filling in for Davidson.
Claudia
Yeah, I mean, I don't think, like, finding someone new would have been a problem. Like any comic would be honored to, to do it. But if they sold the tickets, being like with special guest Pete Davidson, you know, it's kind of a letdown.
Jackie
Oh, did that. I don't know if they sold.
Claudia
I don't know. I don't know.
Jackie
But I'm sure he was like really excited. It's his big night. The crowd would be so hyped for Pete. His friend is coming through for him and, and then for two hours before for Pete to cancel. That's a little.
Claudia
I also think it's like crazy that, that Matt Rife got Pete Davidson to do something for him. Like, I don't know why I Think that's crazy.
Jackie
I feel like Pete Davidson, I would have said, like, has good friends and is a good friend because he's always, like, they're always showing up for him. I feel like he has good friendships, but this isn't what a friend does. And of course, like, because Matt rife is kind of rife with scandal right now, your first thought is, like, is he disassociating from Matt? But I don't think that's what it is. I'm sure just something comics don't do that.
Claudia
Comics aren't losers who are like, oh, there's a little bit of, like, backlash on TikTok. I should stay away. Like, comics don't give a fuck. I don't think it has to do with that either. I also think, yes, Pete has, like, a lot of friends, but I also think that's, like, the nature of, like, comedy. Like, everybody just, like, supports one another.
Jackie
You need your friends in that business. Or shall I say in this business?
Claudia
Oh, right.
Jackie
In our business, our business as comedians.
Claudia
Who run 5Ks, who are top of.
Jackie
The charts comedians, we need friends. Luckily, Turdi and I have each other. That's why we don't know anyone else.
Claudia
We. No, we have Burton Tom until further notice.
Jackie
And you have tanks.
Claudia
I. I will always have tanks.
Jackie
We actually have a lot of friends. Not in the comedy space, but in the influencer space. Like, we're friendly influencers.
Claudia
A lot of. Because you want to know what it is like, most comedy podcasters come from the comedy world. We are comedy podcasters who weirdly came from the influencer world.
Jackie
Yeah.
Claudia
So we're just different in that way. And that's why we're not like other shows and we're probably better than everyone else, if I had to guess.
Jackie
Yeah, sounds right. Speaking of comedy news, something that wasn't a story but I find to be newsworthy is Shane Gillis hosting. Oh, my God. And I've been meaning to talk about it.
Claudia
I'm so glad you brought that up, because I saw it and I sent it to you and I was shook because for anyone who doesn't understand why it's a big deal. The first time I had ever heard of Shane Gillis was many years ago when he was announced as one of the new SNL cast members. And obviously, for any comic, that's, like the job of the century, and it's like, the biggest deal. Then they had announced that he was the one of the new cast members. Of course, you know, the Internet did their thing, found some old clips of him saying some unsavory things on a podcast, specifically using a slur. And he was immediately, you know, the offer was withdrawn. And I think for, like, any comic who, you know, gets to snl, I don't know if there's anything worse. Like, I don't like. I think what happened to Shane Gillis is, like, so many people's worst nightmare.
Jackie
Yeah, it was.
Claudia
It was to reach the summit. To reach the summit and then fall.
Jackie
Down, have it taken away.
Claudia
And what was so interesting about what happened to Shane Gillis is that he kind of took, you know, this lemon and made it into lemonade, and his career really blew up after that. He just, like, pounded the pavement. Podcast, podcast, podcast. He put his. He produced his own comedy special, put it out for free on YouTube. It blew up. So much so that the next time he recorded a special, Netflix bought it. And it was like, the number one special a few months ago. It was really popular.
Jackie
Yeah.
Claudia
And he kind of made himself someone who's, like, a little too famous to even be a cast member on snl. He's kind of someone who's, you know, the guest host on snl and they did it, which I think is so crazy. Like, I don't know. If I was Shane Gillis, would I be, like, butt hurt and, like, bitter and not accept. I don't know.
Jackie
Not for host to come back in that way. Like, if they had asked him to be a cast member now, I'm sure he would be like, oh, you can go yourself.
Claudia
No. And he wakes, makes. He has a huge podcast. He's, like, below us sometimes. But. But, yeah, yeah, he's makes.
Jackie
But I. A lot of money doing that podcast before he even got the first job. Like, everything that he's doing now is what he was doing before the first SNL job, and that's why he got the job. And then he was taken away from him, and then he's continued to just, like, do Shane, do his podcast, do his comedy. And as we say, the cream rises. And now he will be hosting us. And now, which is completely full circle, a really crazy thing.
Claudia
And I absolutely have to watch his monologue just to see how this is, like, to me, this is historic. Like, yeah, I. I need to see how they're gonna address it. Like, and they're. They're going to.
Jackie
I mean, how could they not? It's really the elephant in the room.
Claudia
But also so interesting.
Jackie
I think that when he was. If you watch his special, and I've seen a lot of clips, I think I watched the special, but I also see clips. He does like an insanely funny and good Trump impression. And I think that's why he was book to begin with for that impression. Because if you think of who they've had play him in the last few years after Alec Baldwin or even maybe Alec Baldwin included, it's like not great.
Claudia
And the guy who they currently have for Trump isn't a cast member, he just is the Trump guy. He comes in to do drugs.
Jackie
He's like not even a good one.
Claudia
Agreed. So I'm sure they'll utilize that.
Jackie
I think they'll have him do that impression, but I think that's why he initially got the job. It would make sense because when you audition for snl, you like audition with impressions.
Claudia
Yeah. No, and when I read Keenan's book, not to always, you know, be bringing up Keenan, it is very impressions based. Yeah, it's like very. It's like old school, like sketch comedy. It's not.
Jackie
You have to like do characters.
Claudia
A lot of people who I think try out for snl, maybe even get honest and I like, aren't like stand up comics. They do this sort of like improv. They're from like those improv groups. So Shingelis is very much like a multi talented comic because he does the impressions, but he also writes like, like really good stand up. I'm fascinated by this. And of course people are like up in arms on the Internet being like, you know, he's not. Sorry. But I think this is like such an interesting life cycle of a cancellation and we haven't seen it before. This, to me, this is sets a precedent and I'm beyond interested. I also just think it's like kind of crazy, like to have let him go. Like SNL was making a statement. Yeah, like they were, they were. Which was very uncommon. The comedy world, like, they don't do that, you know, so it was very sort of out of character and bizarre. But of course, like when the mob comes, like, you just buckle. Like that's what people do. So the fact that they did cancel was such like a strong move and booking him is like a strong move in the total opposite direction. I. I find it very confusing.
Jackie
Yeah, we'll see how it plays out and what sort of message they're going to send and what they're going to say about it.
Claudia
I'm like, I will be tuning in, maybe perhaps even live. Yeah, that's how interesting I am.
Jackie
The Musical guest is 21 Savage. Great, great. February 24th. See you there.
Claudia
Oh, it's not this weekend.
Jackie
No.
Claudia
Who on God's green diddly daily earth knows where I'm gonna be on February 24th?
Jackie
What is this weekend? Let's see.
Claudia
I don't think there is.
Jackie
Oh, because it's also the Super Bowl.
Claudia
Yeah.
Jackie
There is none.
Claudia
And they just kind of make up their own schedule. I kind of love, like, and respect that, you know?
Jackie
Yeah. Like, maybe we'll do a show, maybe we won't. Maybe it'll be a rewind.
Claudia
Yeah.
Jackie
Maybe not.
Claudia
They're just, like, always keeping us on our toes.
Jackie
Yeah.
Claudia
Yeah.
Jackie
Because we're just waiting with bated breath. Are you ready for our next story?
Claudia
Yes.
Jackie
Some really lovely news. 40 megastars have come together for one magnificent image on British Vogue, as they say a farewell to Edward Enifil, the editor in chief of British Vogue.
Claudia
So who I didn't even know was leaving.
Jackie
He's leaving. The COVID of his final magazine is 40 huge stars, one class picture. They all.
Claudia
And they're like, his girlies, like, they're not random.
Jackie
They all had, like, been on the COVID at one point in his career. They all signify, like, the past, the present, and the future for him. They all came to New York on the same day for a photo shoot. And these are some of, like, the biggest stars ever. It's a really.
Claudia
You know what it's giving?
Jackie
It's giving generic.
Claudia
Yes. 13 going on 30. Like, the graduation prom scene when they all are, like, in the park and there's leaves, and it's, like, the best scene on television history.
Jackie
It is. But those were, like, regular degulars.
Claudia
No. And by the way, I'm sure, like, the vibe on this set was, like, so toxic and, like, rude. They were, like, eating cupcakes in Jenna Rink's version. And there was, like, you know, snow in the air. Well, this one was probably just, like, kind of snow.
Jackie
The story they're telling is, like, it was just such a beautiful, harmonious day of so many. I think it was like a mega factory of getting all the girls ready and styled, and everyone comes with teams. I think there were probably so many people there. They shot it at, like, a warehouse in the city. But the final image is beautiful.
Claudia
I mean, read me some of the names. I mean, I saw it, but Naomi.
Jackie
Campbell, Kaia Gerber, and Cindy Crawford.
Claudia
Oh, I didn't put that together because they weren't seated next to.
Jackie
There are a couple, like, interesting dynamics where it's like, oh, I.
Claudia
Placements.
Jackie
I wonder how these two got along. Cara Delevingne. Miley Cyrus, Victoria Beckham. Oprah, Serena Williams, Anya Taylor Joy, Carly Kloss.
Claudia
There were some like major randoms in there. Jamila Jamil.
Jackie
Jamila Jamil. Ariana debose.
Claudia
Yeah, like really random.
Jackie
Yeah, there were a couple randoms. I'm sure they like, mean something to.
Claudia
Edward and Victoria Beckham.
Jackie
Yeah, I said her. Love her. Sorry. Amber, by the way.
Claudia
Oh, actually just met Amber Valletta. Nice lady and very gorgeous in person. What I wanted to say before I like, had to be annoying and name drop and I forgot what I was gonna say.
Jackie
Shall I continue?
Claudia
You know, British Vogue, like, is so all, all the Vogues, but like British Vogue is really, I feel highlights, like how much, like better American Vogue could be doing. I feel like American Vogue, like never does anything iconic. They're always like getting in trouble these days.
Jackie
Yeah, no, always for something or other. It's like Jo Koy and then Trevor Noah. It's like, it shouldn't be so hard. Here you have someone who shows you how you can do your job.
Claudia
No, and it's literally vogue, like, do better.
Jackie
They act like, oh, we, you know, it's hard to get a great cover and to. It's not the polls, but like British Vogue is always showing it up.
Claudia
I remembered what I was gonna say. Have you been seeing the like pre commercial super bowl commercials for Uber Eats with the Beckhams?
Jackie
Obsessed.
Claudia
I thought it was 10 out of 10, perfectly executed. I loved that they let her wear her Victoria Beckham shirt that she sells. People are mad. It's like a hundred dollars because it's literally like a piece of merch. Obsessed. What did they call her? Not Jennifer.
Jackie
Jessica.
Claudia
Jessica.
Jackie
It's a funny commercial and I'm sure we get more commercial at the Super Bowl.
Claudia
For sure.
Jackie
Yeah. All the super bowl commercials are rolling out slowly.
Claudia
I also know that Edward was like a, a close friend of Taylor Swift. So I'm sure she's busy and she just couldn't make it, but it would have been cool if she was in there.
Jackie
It would have been. It was in December, so she was, she was free. She was free and it was in New York. Do you think anyone got this email and like, didn't Taylor Swift. You think? I could see like someone getting this and not realizing how iconic it was going to be and just kind of being like, oh, they wanted me to do some like celebratory thing for British folk.
Claudia
Right.
Jackie
I can't make it.
Claudia
No, but like Oprah's there, you know.
Jackie
Yeah. But then when you see the picture it's like, if anybody didn't participate, who was invited? Like, you're.
Claudia
You know what? You know who I actually think probably did that? Madison beer. She was supposed to be in the video, but, yeah, I love that reference. I'm sorry. Because, like, that would happen to me.
Jackie
No, what would happen to me is, like, to get an email and, like, not really register the significance of it and be like, oh, I don't really want to do that. And then you see the picture and you're like, I should have done that.
Claudia
Right? Things I should have done. Stop.
Jackie
Things I didn't do that.
Claudia
Right.
Jackie
So. Yeah. Hugh James, Salma Hayek, Linda Evangelista. They had a sleepover the night before. The article said Salma stayed at Linda's place.
Claudia
Oh, not all of the women.
Jackie
No, just these two. But, like, is it.
Claudia
Why are you saying Salma? Selma.
Jackie
Sorry.
Claudia
Wait, who are we talking about? Oh, sorry, I thought you're talking about Selma Blair, too. Sorry, I, like, wasn't listening to you. Salma Hayek and who? Linda Evangelist had a sleepover. That's weird.
Jackie
And isn't Salma Hayek married to that guy?
Claudia
The richest man in the world?
Jackie
Yeah. Like, she stayed at Linda's place in New York. Like, you can't get hotel.
Claudia
Stayed at Linda's dump.
Jackie
Like, that's a little weird.
Claudia
For sure.
Jackie
That's like, Elon, too. He's the richest man in the world, and whenever he travels, he stays at a friend's place.
Claudia
And the way. That just would never, ever be me. Like, not in a million years, literally.
Jackie
Couch surfer. It's so crazy.
Claudia
And the way I travel, I act like I have Elon Musk's finance. Like, imagine if I actually did.
Jackie
Yeah.
Claudia
This would never be me. You know, guys know how I feel about that. Like, rich people cosplaying as poor people. I, you know, marry you with paper rings type of things. Like, no, don't. Yeah, don't.
Jackie
Kate Moss on the COVID with Lottie Moss. Another duo. Yeah. Cute.
Claudia
It was. It was really beautifully done. And it was 1000% giving. Jenna Rink.
Jackie
Yeah. Yeah. And everyone looks great individually and together. Like, it probably took a lot of styling.
Claudia
Yeah.
Jackie
So great execution. Bon voyage, Edward.
Claudia
I didn't even know he was leaving.
Jackie
Yeah. Are you ready for our next story?
Claudia
Yeah.
Jackie
Podcaster Bobby Altoff calls her exchanged husband Corey. Incredible. After he files from. For divorce from her.
Claudia
No, I need. And I know people tune into this podcast to hear us explain stuff. I need someone to explain to me what the hell is going on.
Jackie
Okay, so Bobby I'll talk. For those of you who don't know, she is the one who had that viral podcast interview with Drake. Her show is called.
Claudia
She was the girl who, like, she was like a mom on Tik Tok with, like, decently big platform. She started a podcast and literally it took over the world. People thought she was an industry plant. She had guests like. Like Mark Cuban, Drake. Like, it was so weird. It was so random. It was like overnight, overnight, and then it was gone. And then there were at the time, like, rumors about her husband and rumors about, like, her, like, sleeping with Drake. Like, it was just so crazy. And I was like, okay, whatever. But then now they actually are getting divorced. So now I'm like, wait, what the.
Jackie
Yeah, her podcast is called the really Good Podcast. And months ago, there were rumors that she, like, hooked up with Drake after their viral interview or whatever. She totally denied and she went on BFF's pod. Yeah, that drama with Dave. But now her and her husband are getting divorced. She posted. As most of you have heard, Corey and I have filed for divorce. As sad as I am right now, I'm so thankful for the time I got to be his wife. Our girls are so lucky to have him as a father. And I'm so lucky to be able to co parent with such an incredible father in person.
Claudia
Now I don't know anything. And I'm not saying that she cheated on her man, but if she did, this would be the type of caption you would write. You're really sorry. You know, it's like a really nice capture.
Jackie
Yeah, Like, I up. He's good.
Claudia
Amazing. Perfect man. Perfect husband. Anyone's lucky to have him. Like, all right, calm down.
Jackie
Don't be mad at me, please.
Claudia
Right? Like, sry.
Jackie
Cuz when you write. When you feel this way about someone that, like, you would write these nice things about them, like, you should be married to them.
Claudia
Right? And why aren't you a great man?
Jackie
You're a great parent. Like, okay, so stay married.
Claudia
Totally random. Totally, like, random. Sidebar. So you know Toby Keith, the country singer? He passed away from stomach cancer. So sad. I. And I'm sure he was just, you know, like, really upset about it. But, like, Luke Combs posted on his story, like, rip Toby, just that, like, legend or something. But it was like, it was really short.
Jackie
And what was a picture of?
Claudia
Nothing. Just black.
Jackie
Black. Rip Toby.
Claudia
Yeah, it was all caps, R, capital I, capital P, not. So it was more like Rip Toby, not Rip Toby, which is better.
Jackie
It's still a rip I Know, and.
Claudia
I think, you know, Luke was probably just, like, acting out of grief, and I can't be mad, but, like, I just. I wanted to note that our king. Our king ripped.
Jackie
You wanted to rip him a new one.
Claudia
No, I didn't. Also, should we talk about the backlash?
Jackie
We didn't do Toby Keith.
Claudia
We got a lot of backlash for not choosing Toby Keith as a story. Because, like, we're big country music fans, and Jackie and I have said this repeatedly, and we actually spoke about it offline. Like, I. We. Unless it's like, you know, Queen Elizabeth dying. Like, I really don't, like, like, talking about death as a story. It's, like, not interesting conversation because what else are we gonna say? Like, oh, we're happy someone died?
Jackie
No, like, it's like, we're gonna say rip.
Claudia
Yeah.
Jackie
No, especially when it's not like, a shock. Like, there's some that are stories because it's like, oh, my gosh. But, you know, when it's just like, rest in peace, great talent, legend, and it's not someone that we've really spoken about. There's not that much to say. That's why it wasn't a story. But we have the utmost respect for Toby Keith, and we hope that he. Alan Jackson, we hope that he rests in peace. Legend, icon, of course.
Claudia
Like, red solo cup. I pick you up. Let's have a party.
Jackie
Thanks for clearing that up.
Claudia
It's a. It's not a big conspiracy, you guys. Like, we just didn't choose a story.
Jackie
Yeah. Because it's just. I'm not gonna say what I was gonna say. It would have been a pun. Oh, that wasn't, like. It wasn't intentionally be a pun, but it would sound like a. Oh, you know what I mean?
Claudia
So good you caught it.
Jackie
So good I caught it. Are you ready for our next story?
Claudia
No. I kind of love the name Toby.
Jackie
Four people. Girl or boy?
Claudia
Boy. Okay.
Jackie
Toby.
Claudia
Soffer on. Wait. Kind of love.
Jackie
Cute.
Claudia
It is, right?
Jackie
I feel like Toby's always a kid, like, a grown. No.
Claudia
I also do feel like for a man, like, I don't know if I've ever, like, met, like, a Toby who was in really good shape. Like, Toby is a fat boy's name.
Jackie
Like, 1001 letter away from tubby.
Claudia
Also, because it looked like it sounds and looks like tuba, which is like this huge instrument. That's what I thought.
Jackie
Oh, I think of Tubby.
Claudia
Yeah. Tubby. No, for sure. Maybe it's like a curse of a name. Especially with, like, my jeans and Ben's jeans. Never mind.
Jackie
But maybe he was meant to be a Toby.
Claudia
I don't know. I just kind of like the name. I also like the name Keith, by the way.
Jackie
People with last names that are first names.
Claudia
First elasti.
Jackie
That's not a firsty lasty.
Claudia
Okay. There is a lot of controversy and conversation about what a firsty lasty is. Some people think a firsty lasty is someone who has a first name for a first and last name. Like Toby Keith is a first name a firsty lasty?
Jackie
Because, no, we don't think that.
Claudia
But then other people say that being a first elasti means, like, you're the type of person who. You can't just say Jackie like, it's Jackie Ashra. You have to say the first and last.
Jackie
I'm not the first. No, no.
Claudia
But I was using you as, like, who's an example of a first elasti. Like, honestly, like, Drew Barrymore.
Jackie
Like, no one would say Drew, except her show is like, oh, no, it's the Drew Barrymore show.
Claudia
Right. Because she's the first elastic.
Jackie
Yeah, that's a first elasti.
Claudia
Shouting off in the comments. What do you think of first elasti is? Or have you never heard that phrase before? Is that an Ostray family thing?
Jackie
No, I feel like it's from the clickbooks. It's giving clickbooks.
Claudia
It's giving idiotic clickbook.
Jackie
And so I feel like we can determine what the definition is.
Claudia
It's in writing, in the text, it's in the scripture.
Jackie
We can go to the source.
Claudia
Should we reread the clickbooks?
Jackie
No, I think it would just, like, make us, like, feel really, like, old and be like, what were we reading?
Claudia
Yeah, no wonder. Like, I was such a nasty little child. Like, I was reading the clickbooks. Like, and who did I idolize in the clickbooks? Like, the meanest cunt of all. Of course. She was the best. She was, like, the prettiest, the richest. Like, of course.
Jackie
Stylish, like, trendsetter.
Claudia
Everyone wanted to be at Massey's house. What is Massie doing this weekend? Oh, can we get invited to Massey's bbq?
Jackie
You know, she had her in and out list. She was doing it before 2024.
Claudia
Right. Like, no wonder, like, girls our age, like, we. We grew up, like, watching Mean Girls and reading the Clicks. Like, no wonder we're nasty, nasty women.
Jackie
Gossip Girl, the books, too. That's what we read.
Claudia
Thousand percent.
Jackie
Yeah. Now, are you ready for our next story?
Claudia
What number is it?
Jackie
It's Number four.
Claudia
Yeah.
Jackie
So New York City was blessed with a rare sister sighting on Tuesday. And it wasn't us, me and you? No.
Claudia
Okay.
Jackie
It was the Olsen sisters. Ashley, Mary Kate and Elizabeth stepped out for a sister's night out as photographers captured the trio strolling the streets while braving the chilly weather.
Claudia
Oh, I need to see these photos. I can't believe I always forget that third one's related to that.
Jackie
I know. And I just feel like they must be distant because we don't see them together, but they're not. And they are together. And they literally name their clothing line after her. Elizabeth and James.
Claudia
Oh, my God. By the way, seeing them all together is so crazy because Elizabeth also does that, like, smile.
Jackie
They're twins, literally.
Claudia
Can you tell Mary Kate and Ashley apart?
Jackie
Yes. Can you?
Claudia
No.
Jackie
Also, did you know that Ashley welcomed a baby secretly last year?
Claudia
No.
Jackie
A baby boy named Otto.
Claudia
Wow. Seeing them all three, just, like, being regular girls walking around. And now this article has photos of them, like, together throughout the years.
Jackie
There aren't a lot.
Claudia
It's the craziest thing. Also how the Elizabeth, the youngest one, like, towers over them. She's a giant.
Jackie
She's not a giant. She's probably like, Margot's height. And they're our height.
Claudia
I just, like, love them.
Jackie
Love, like.
Claudia
And they're so sister done is so impressive. I feel like not enough people talk about the row enough as it pertains to Mary Kate and Ashley. People know the row is like this, like, you know, amazing fashion house. But, like, I think a lot of people don't even put together that it's Mary Kate, Ashley.
Jackie
We just need, like, more from them. And I know they don't want to give us anything, but, like, just something, please. A documentary, a memoir. Like, we need you. The culture needs you. I guess they're giving us clothes constantly. Like, constantly.
Claudia
I don't know what I want.
Jackie
The generation and our leaders leading by example with their fashion statements, but we still need more.
Claudia
I don't know if I want a memoir.
Jackie
Really.
Claudia
I don't. Like, I'm trying to think format wise. I mean, if they did do a memoir, first of all, we need a title. Second of all, would it be together, one book? Right.
Jackie
I feel like at their 37 years old, like, they want their own book.
Claudia
Yeah. It's like, so crazy. They're only 37. Wait, is it. Wait, they're 37?
Jackie
Yeah.
Claudia
How on God's green diddly dally earth does that make sense? Like, which part?
Jackie
They're too old or Too young.
Claudia
Too old. Not that they're too old.
Jackie
Like, they were always, like, a couple because older than us.
Claudia
No, no. I feel like when we were, like, watching Full House and stuff, they were, like, younger than us.
Jackie
No, when we were watching, like, their teen movies, they were, like, old.
Claudia
We were the same girls a few years older. No, you're right. You're right. Like, New York Minute. We were, like, in the eighth grade, and they were, like, in high school. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. Okay, that's fair.
Jackie
Yeah. And then.
Claudia
And I love that sister.
Jackie
How old is Elizabeth? Oh, she's 34.
Claudia
And what about James?
Jackie
Brother?
Claudia
Like, what about him? What does he do?
Jackie
I think he does. Brother tings. I think he does. Brother for sale. I think they sold him 25 cents. Brother for sale. He's not a big expense, Jackie.
Claudia
Well, there's a lot of siblings. There's Mary Kate and Ashley and Elizabeth. There is Jake, Courtney, I. Trent, Courtney, Jackie, Jackie. Wait, I don't see James. Oh, Jake. I guess that would be his birth name.
Jackie
Courtney.
Claudia
Who is Courtney? Courtney Taylor Olsen is an American actress. She is popularly known as the half sister of the Olsen sisters, Elizabeth and Mary Kate. Elizabeth is an actress. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Courtney half. Okay, so there's. There's. There's also Trent.
Jackie
Must be another half if he didn't get named on the label. Sorry.
Claudia
Older brother. No, he has played himself in a few of his sister's video series. He's Brother for sale, I guess.
Jackie
Brother for sale. Only 50 cents.
Claudia
What a tangled web that these siblings.
Jackie
And I'm getting images. These parents who had, like, six children, two of them being such successful child stars.
Claudia
Okay, so the dad, David, and the stepmom. So there are five children. Some step, I believe.
Jackie
Cool.
Claudia
Yeah. This is very, very interesting.
Jackie
Like I said, documentary Memoirs of an Olsen.
Claudia
And when the Olsens got their Hollywood Walk of Fame star, they brought all their siblings. I'm, like, on this Ghetti image search right now. Very interesting.
Jackie
So they had an SNO last night.
Claudia
I love that.
Jackie
I want to know where they went. We need a little.
Claudia
I was gonna say where did inspo. Right. Because where they would go? Like, we would go.
Jackie
That's probably a good place. That's good for sisters and would foster, like, sisterly dialogue, sisterly love, closeness.
Claudia
Love.
Jackie
So we'll have to make a reservation. Our fifth and final story. A little Disney news, because Moana 2 is set at Disney with a surprise 2024 release date. The line where the sky meets the sea is calling Moana. Once again, Disney Announced the sequel to Moana will be released theatrically on November 27th. That's very exciting. The second Moana was originally developed as a TV series, but became a feature film because Bob Iger was impressed with the footage. So Moana, she comes to theaters this November. Also, Moana is getting, like, the live action treatment. So there's just, like, a lot going on in the world of Moana.
Claudia
And let me tell you another part of this story that I find so interesting. I feel like I told you this story. Do you remember? I think it was during COVID when those two girls on TikTok, one of them is like, a pop star, singer, songwriter, the other is, like, this musical composer. They started making all these videos, like, what if Bridgerton was a musical? And they ended up writing a whole album that got, like, millions of streams, that got nominated for a Grammy. And one, it was like this amazing thing that happened on Tik Tok. They have been tapped to write the music for Moana too.
Jackie
Oh, that's so great.
Claudia
Which does mean Lin Manuel Miranda is out of a job, which people are both celebrating, but also being like, but he did slap the first time.
Jackie
Yeah. I feel two ways, because obviously, like, I don't ever want someone to not have a job, but Lin Manuel has many, so let's open up the field to other people. But he, as much as we clown on Lynn, like, he's responsible for so many hits, hit after hit, and, like, how far I'll go and yard. Welcome. I mean, if not, man, well, we wouldn't have yet. Welcome. Except yad.
Claudia
Well, gum, we love to joke, but, like, at the end of the day, like, we always say, the cream rises and that shit. That soundtrack from Moana1, like, was that bitch, like, it was top tier.
Jackie
Lynn is the cream. Question mark, exclamation point.
Claudia
Lynn is cream, period.
Jackie
That's kind of like something for me to wrap my head around. Like, I don't appreciate Lin Manuel in his time.
Claudia
No. And it's because, like, his personality gets in the way of his talent.
Jackie
Yeah. But I feel. Okay, is that even true?
Claudia
Do we even know him?
Jackie
That Lynn is appreciated in his time? Like, everyone is obsessed with him. He gets every job that's remotely Lynn.
Claudia
Like, Lynn is a multi. Multi millionaire. Like, Lynn is Hashtag. Lynn is fine.
Jackie
Yeah. But this is a lot of pressure for those girls, because one a sequel is a lot of pressure. Even if Lynn were doing it, he has to outlin the Lynn.
Claudia
Disney has a very high bar.
Jackie
But, like, if these songs, like, what? Oh, no, I just got confused for a second. But still how far I'll go. Major.
Claudia
Yep. But I, like, I. I follow have followed this, like, these two girls stories just because I thought it was so cool that they won a Grammy. And I feel like they literally could win an Oscar now or like a. A Golden Globe. Like they could be egots and they're just, you know, two girls.
Jackie
Two girls. Abigail Barlow and Emily Bear.
Claudia
Yeah. And they are. They call. They're like a writing duo. Barlow and Bear. It's giving like Pasek and Paul, you.
Jackie
Know.
Claudia
Like, it's giving. Iconic writing duo.
Jackie
Yeah. I'd rather see Pasek and Paul out there shaking that thing.
Claudia
I wouldn't mind it.
Jackie
I. I love me some Pasek and Paul.
Claudia
Me too.
Jackie
Except what's crazy is Pasek and Paul did La La Land. And I don't give a rip about La La Land.
Claudia
I didn't like La La Land.
Jackie
Maybe I should probably, like, watch it again.
Claudia
But I would precise.
Jackie
Still not give a rip. I just don't give a rip.
Claudia
No, I know. And when people think Pascan Paul, they think La Land. We think Pasek and Paul. Greatest showman or Evan Hansen.
Jackie
Yeah.
Claudia
Huh.
Jackie
La La Land. That's like, makes you. I feel like that's like a glitch in my matrix. It's like something I should like that I don't like. There's a couple things.
Claudia
Such a good point. It's such a good point.
Jackie
Yeah. I guess I just can't be pinned down. You can't put me in a box.
Claudia
Well, that's for damn sure.
Jackie
You can't, like, make a movie for me and expect me to like it. You just know.
Claudia
But I am gonna pin you down right now because the girlies need your help. Jackie, it's Dear Toasters time, so sit down and help.
Jackie
I should do so.
Claudia
Dear Toasters is our weekly advice segment where you guys write into us and we'll choose three submissions every week to try and help out the girlies. All the issues. They range from, you know, wedding stuff to work stuff to health stuff to husband stuff, mostly. So feel free to write us in. Dear toasters, gmail.com is the email. Your prompt will remain completely anonymous. If you've written in and we have not read it on air, either your prompt is uninteresting or it was too long. Try and keep it, like, concise, need to know information. You can also head to the Toast podcast dot com. Check it out there. There's a little submission box. Once you scroll down on the website, Also Anonymous. Ready? Yep. Good morning to the wonderful, stunning Turdy and the beautiful wives. Jackie O. I am writing in because I'm having a predicament. My hilarious husband has recently started doing standup comedy and is starting to climb the comedy ladder where we live. When he first started doing comedy, I told him that I didn't want him to joke about me during his sets because I didn't want to feel disrespected. Now he's getting invited to host shows, and when I go to his shows that feature other comics, I've noticed that every single comic but my husband tirelessly joined jokes about their wives, significant others during their sets. Am I being an insecure loser? Should I just let him joke about me to help his comedy career? Turti, have you had this combo with Ben? Help?
Jackie
That's such a great question and an interesting predicament. And I feel like you're being very self aware. But I think the boundary that you said is really nice. And if I were you, I wouldn't reconsider it unless he comes to you and says, like, listen, I have this joke. And having this boundary is like, holding me back a little bit or having him, you approve a joke. I would just, like, wait till he mentions it. But if he's having success not joking about his relationship, I think that's like, really respectable and totally fine.
Claudia
That's so funny. I was gonna say something different. Even though, like, I do agree with you. The thing is, is, like, I do feel like it's most likely limiting his potential because so much of comedy is, like, about your own life. And if obviously you're married, like, a huge part of your life is your.
Jackie
Marriage, and there's so much more to be a better comedian because if everybody's making relationship jokes and like, he has to think outside of that box, like, he might eventually be like, one of a kind in making different kinds of jokes.
Claudia
It's possible. I, I, I guess I wouldn't, you know, say anything unless he says something. Yeah. And it's very sweet that he hasn't. I never ran it by Ben, but I also know there's a line like, I'm not looking to be out here embarrassing my husband. Like, I want to do a show that's, like, relatable and funny and that people can relate to. But also, like, I have a norm. I'm not the type of person who, like, I have respect for my husband. So as long as your partner loves you and has respect for you, they really, they won't say something awful. You know? Yeah, but even in the name of a joke.
Jackie
Yeah. I think that if it's weighing on you, you could ask him and be like, hey, is this kind of holding you back? Do you ever wish that you could make these jokes and you guys could have a conversation about it? You don't even have to like, wait for him to bring it up because maybe, maybe he doesn't bring it up because he knows that you would say no. So I think you should broach the subject and ask him, see how he feels about it. And if this is something he's been feeling like, oh, I have these jokes, like, maybe you guys could start somewhere where like, he just like runs them by you. And not forever, but just to get you comfortable with it. I think that, like, I, I think it's awesome that he's gotten so far while respecting your boundaries, but if you're starting to feel like you're holding him back, then just ask him about it. I think this is nice. Yeah.
Claudia
You both sound like normal, level headed people who can have a conversation, which is amazing.
Jackie
Isn't always the case with your toasters or comedians.
Claudia
Facts. Was that a Bert Kreischer dick? No kidding. Are you ready for our next one?
Jackie
Yeah.
Claudia
Hey, Jackson Turd. This one sounds like a novel. Like a thriller. My maternal grandmother called me yesterday for a very casual conversation. But towards the end, she mentioned that she and my grandfather were going to get their will made later this week. She explained that their cumulative assets total over $4 million and that the inheritance would be split between my younger sibling and I. This was completely unexpected. She told me not to tell anyone besides my boyfriend. I know this will be so awkward when the time comes and my mom finds out. Both she and my dad will be shocked and hurt. She encouraged me to be transparent with my boyfriend. We've been together for over five years, live together, and plan to get engaged within the year. Can I make him promise not to tell anyone? I. I don't really want his family to know. What do I tell? Who do I tell? What do I buy? Do I need a lawyer?
Jackie
This is so weird. Granny's causing drama. Not even the fact that she wants to give it to you guys, which is, you know, her right to do. But that she wants you to tell your boyfriend doesn't want you to tell your mom. Like, why is she playing games this Grammy?
Claudia
Whatever you do, do not tell your boyfriend. Like, sorry, I like to be. We'll get into your mom in a second because that's awkward and like, you'll have to figure out whatever. But, like, literally, don't tell your boyfriend. Like, I think you can, like, keep this close to the best. I don't think you need a lawyer.
Jackie
Yeah. And even if she wants to leave the money to you, why is she telling you now and causing drama between you and your mom? Like, Granny's causing trouble.
Claudia
It would have been better for her to just, like, you know, when the time comes, like, pass away and then, like, mic drop with the. With the reading of the will. Very, you know, very Gossip Girl.
Jackie
But she's like, but putting this thing between you and your mom by one, the inheritance, and two, like, the secret of it. What's Granny up to?
Claudia
Yeah, and also, like, is your mom, like, waiting on this money?
Jackie
Like, yeah, I just. I like to respect yacht elders, and typically, if there's a grandma, like, in a deer toasters, I'm always gonna take Granny's side. But, like, what's Granny got up her sleeve?
Claudia
Yeah. There was kind of no reason for her to drop this bomb. Like, it should have been posthumously.
Jackie
Also, why she's only doing her will now. People have wills, like, throughout their lives.
Claudia
Yeah, Maybe she's rejiggering it because she's, like, having an argument with her daughter.
Jackie
And she's, like, trying to get you on her side by giving you two mil.
Claudia
Right, right, right. Granny's being, Betty, do not tell your boyfriend. Like, I feel like that's the more important conversation.
Jackie
That's.
Claudia
So let it be, like, a nice thing. Once you guys get married, like, then you really can share, but, like, this is private. And boyfriends, I'm sorry, they come and go. By the way, we've been together for five years. Yada, yada.
Jackie
No, the money isn't yours yet. Even so, there's nothing to say. She could blow it all before she goes.
Claudia
She does sound also, like, a little bit like a reckless kind of woman.
Jackie
Reckless?
Claudia
Maybe she changed. Changed her mind.
Jackie
She's giving. Reckless Granny. I wouldn't count this money as your own just yet.
Claudia
It's so true. Maybe just sit quiet and it's nice. I guess the only person you can really talk to is your sister. Yeah, so kind of the sister.
Jackie
I wonder if Granny told her something different. I think Granny's playing games.
Claudia
Or did Granny not even tell the.
Jackie
Other sister it's giving? Like, what's that movie, Knives Out?
Claudia
Yes.
Jackie
Like, everyone thinks they are getting the inheritance.
Claudia
Oh, my God. And Granny wants to see what they all do. Keep it to yourself.
Jackie
Someone's gonna kill Granny. Don't Play this game. I wouldn't get caught up in it.
Claudia
I agree. It's a trap.
Jackie
It's a trap. Go about your life as if granny never told you because you're not getting that money. I'm sorry to tell you.
Claudia
Yeah, it's giving diabolical granny.
Jackie
It's giving diabolical granny.
Claudia
Our third and final deer Toasters is looking for a little bit more of, like, tactical advice. Okay.
Jackie
I love tactical. I like. I think we can actually give this girl a good plan advice. I've heard this actionable. I've heard this marriage tip recently that when, like, your partner is complaining that you should say, do you want comfort or do you want solutions? And I feel like that's what you.
Claudia
Would say to, like, a kid.
Jackie
No, no, it's like when you're complaining about.
Claudia
Wait, I love that.
Jackie
Right? When you're complaining about something, like, do you want me to actually tell you, like, help you or just, like, commiserate with you?
Claudia
Oh, my God. That happened to me the other day. Like, I. Oh, my God. Ben was. Oh, my God.
Jackie
I go straight for solutions. I'm solution oriented, which is why I like this. Dear Toasters, that's why I brought this up. But it's a great question to ask. You want comfort, we want solutions.
Claudia
Oh, my God. Because no, Ben was coming at me with solutions and it felt like an attack. Like, Like I was doing something wrong and that's why I was in this position. And honestly, like, I got so mad at him and I was so wrong and I took my anger out on him because I was angry about something else. Oh, my God, I love that. Can you, like, text that to Ben?
Jackie
Yeah. Oh, yeah. I was thinking, like, I need it. That's so funny. I think Ben and I are really similar.
Claudia
Are we? Yeah. But then Ben definitely, like, takes on in terms of, like, emotions, like, sometimes a little bit more of like the traditionally feminine role. Like. No, it's very emotional.
Jackie
No, I'm not emotional. Like, if any.
Claudia
You're not? Yeah, yeah.
Jackie
I don't know. Anyways, I just thought it was. It was good because also when you just want comfort, you don't want solutions, my friend.
Claudia
No, no. And it's like, stop.
Jackie
And I'm always now. And it also forces a person who's. Who's struggling to be like, what do I want? You know, to.
Claudia
Yeah.
Jackie
Be like, huh. That's a good question. It's good. Marriage tip of the day.
Claudia
So speaking of actionable advice, I am a 30 something mother of two. And since having Children. I feel as if my vocabulary is embarrassing and limited. I find myself struggling for simple words and synonyms in my workplace. I was an advertising and marketing major in college, and my written communication far exceeds my verbal, mostly because I have time to compose my words. I'm worried when I actually meet people for work, they think I am dumb. You both have such a colorful spoken vocabulary. Would you attribute it to being avid readers or something else? Please help. Please be the Share Horowitz to my tie. I hope it's not sporadically.
Jackie
That is such a good question. I just have to say, if I didn't do this podcast every day, that would be me. Like, my. Your brain. It's so easy for your brain to become mush. Like, you're talking baby talk all day. Like, one word, and you're trying to find the simplest word for what you're trying to convey to your child. So it's totally normal and natural. Literally, doing the show, like, forces me to exercise my brain, which I'm grateful for, but I do find it harder these days than it used to be for me to, like, reach for words. What was the word the other day I couldn't find recreationally.
Claudia
Yeah.
Jackie
So this is so real. And I do feel like I have a very colorful vocabulary, but it's because I practice every single day by doing this show. So I don't know if it's enough for you to just listen to shows like this or other shows where there's a lot of colorful language because maybe you can absorb some of it. But reading, of course.
Claudia
Right? No, but she really said, like, she has. It's not so much her, like, knowledge, because she's like, I can write really well. Like, she has the words. She has a hard time bringing them.
Jackie
Brain, mouth.
Claudia
You know, like, connecting your brain to your mouth. And I feel like it kind of sounds like she needs brain camp.
Jackie
Yeah, but what is brain camp in tax. I don't know.
Claudia
What is brain camp? I mean, there are, like, a bunch of apps and games. Like, I play this game. It's a board game. It's called anemia. And anemia. Like, the definition of that word is, like, when you h. When you can't think of, like, you know the word, but you can't say it. It's like the. The brain mouth connection. It's actually a really fun game, but I also think it's actually, like, a challenge that would perhaps put you on the spot. So a board game?
Jackie
Yeah, a board game. Also, I think maybe even just calling a friend having more Adult conversations. Maybe a friend who's like, you're funny, lively friend. And it's just going to be like an upbeat conversation that can help you just, like, exercise your mouth.
Claudia
You can practice. Because when I go back and listen to, like, old episodes of the Toast, my God, I sound so stupid. I say sentences, like, filled with nothing. Like, yeah, totally, and I'm still not great. But I say much more substance in sentences now. Yeah, it's a skill that you have to, like, fine tune. And when you spend so much time talking to children.
Jackie
Of course, of course, it's so natural. But, yeah, trying to find more time for adult conversation. Maybe a word of the day. I've never really stuck to a word of the day, but the few times I've done it, like, I've gotten something out of it. But I don't know really where I get my new words from. We were having this conversation when I did Shannon's podcast. She was asking about my vocabulary. Like, how do I have such a big, vast, colorful vocabulary? And I do not know the answer. Reading definitely helps, but I've had it since before reading.
Claudia
No, but the thing for me is, like, I have to see, interact with a word like, 10 times before I start to even want to know what it means. Like, mercurial is a new word of mine, and it's because it was in Illicit affairs by Taylor Swift. And, like, I was like, okay, that's a word. I just learned that word. Then it started showing up in books a lot and on my Kindle, I would, like, highlight it, look at the definition. It means, like, sort of like unpredictable, mysterious, if you will, and words like that. I learn words, like, so randomly. Like, even one of my favorite words, acrimonious, I learned from friends. So, like, I just pick up words randomly, but it takes a lot for a word to stick with me.
Jackie
Yeah.
Claudia
Unless you start using it all the.
Jackie
Time, because then we shit. We word share.
Claudia
Yeah. Nefarious. Of course. Elk Classic.
Jackie
That's a big one.
Claudia
Big Loki.
Jackie
No, but don't feel bad about this. And it'll. It'll come back.
Claudia
It comes and goes.
Jackie
It's hard. It's a. It's a. It's a total life change. And also it's. It's physical and mental. Like, you literally, like, it happens whether or not you do start talking baby talk. Like, and it also happens because you start talking baby talk. So go easy on yourself, girly swirly. Go.
Claudia
That's our show. And tomorrow will be our last one of the week. And then Next week when we are back, Jackie and I will be together podcasting. So you know what I realized? Exciting, fun times.
Jackie
I realized that next week is a short week because it's President's Day on Monday.
Claudia
That's not next week. That's the week after next. President's Day isn't like after the Super Bowl. It's the following week.
Jackie
Sorry.
Claudia
True. And of course, you know, let's give everyone fair warning. We will be taking off President.
Jackie
Of course we respect the presidents.
Claudia
I mean, God bless America. You know, that I love, you know.
Jackie
A stand beside her.
Claudia
Yeah. And guide her through the night with the night from above.
Jackie
Yes.
Claudia
I love that song. They're all bops from also like this land is your land.
Jackie
I love all of those songs of the American elk.
Claudia
The elk. Yeah.
Jackie
The star spangled Banner. Like.
Claudia
Like the Betsy Ross vibes hits.
Jackie
The hits start coming and they don't stop coming.
Claudia
And like, chilling.
Jackie
No. And it's like they were written a couple hundred years ago and they still slay the house down Boots.
Claudia
A song that I put in that category that's like, kind of not. And it's modern and like it has no semblance, but I just consider them all the same type of song is. And I'm proud to be an American wear at least. And no, I'm free.
Jackie
Yeah. The green one slayed the house down boots Also like this land is your land this land is my land that's right. In California all the way to the New York island island from the redwood forest to the gulf stream water this land was made for you and me with that amen did you adieu.
Claudia
Thank you guys so much for listening to the chosen millennium morning show, where we deliver the fastest stories you need to know every Monday, The Friday on YouTube. So if you're watching us on YouTube, please don't subscribe this video thumbs up also availables podcasts all the places we are.
Jackie
I have a new outro and it's the perfect way to end the episode.
Claudia
Okay, where does it go right now?
Jackie
It goes right now. It goes right.
Claudia
What about love you by.
Jackie
I can add it to the end.
Claudia
Okay. How wickedly talented we are.
Jackie
Without further ado, we bid you adieu. Love you. Bye.
Claudia
I love it. Play those dumb boots, boots, boots, boots.
Podcast Summary: The Toast Herstory: The Diabolical Granny
Episode: Toast Herstory: The Diabolical Granny
Host/Authors: Jackie & Claudia Oshry
Original Airdate: February 8th, 2024
Release Date: July 10, 2025
Duration: 65 minutes
Jackie and Claudia kick off the episode with their characteristic banter, discussing personal attire and recent experiences. Claudia shares her excitement about her upcoming trip to see her family during the Super Bowl weekend, highlighting the importance of maintaining a positive mindset by acknowledging exciting upcoming events.
Notable Quote:
Claudia reveals that an unposted TikTok video from a family vacation has unexpectedly gone viral, skyrocketing from 700,000 to over 6.3 million views overnight. The video features a humorous moment where their sister, Margo, mistakenly eats her dinner off a charger instead of a plate.
Notable Quotes:
Claudia discusses the mixed reactions from social media, with some viewers criticizing the video as a "privileged first-world problem" and others unfamiliar with what a charger is. They debate whether Claudia should distribute the video through prominent platforms like Lad Bible or Barstool Sports to gain more traction.
Notable Quote:
Jackie and Claudia discuss the last-minute cancellation of Pete Davidson, who was set to warm up for Matt Rife's three-night stand at Radio City Music Hall. Despite ticket sales potentially being affected, the duo speculates on the reasons behind Pete's abrupt decision, emphasizing the unpredictable nature of friendships within the comedy industry.
Notable Quote:
The hosts explore the recent cover of British Vogue featuring 40 megastars as a tribute to Edward Enifil, the departing editor-in-chief. They highlight the star-studded lineup including Naomi Campbell, Kaia Gerber, Cindy Crawford, and Oprah, noting the blend of past, present, and future icons.
Notable Quotes:
Jackie and Claudia critique the cohesiveness of the star lineup and express intrigue about the behind-the-scenes dynamics during the photoshoot.
The hosts cover the unexpected announcement by podcaster Bobby Altoff, who recently filed for divorce from her husband, Corey. They delve into the public's reaction to the news, especially given Bobby's previously viral interview with Drake and rumors of an affair.
Notable Quotes:
Jackie and Claudia speculate on the authenticity of Bobby's amicable divorce statement and discuss the complexities of public relationships in the influencer and podcasting world.
Jackie and Claudia transition to discussing Disney's announcement of "Moana 2," set to release on November 27th, 2024. They highlight the transition from a planned TV series to a feature film and the involvement of new musical talents Abigail Barlow and Emily Bear, who have gained acclaim for their Grammy-winning work.
Notable Quote:
The duo compares Barlow and Bear to established songwriting duos like Pasek and Paul, expressing excitement and concern over the expectations set for the sequel's soundtrack.
Question 1: Boundaries in Stand-Up Comedy Relationships A listener shares her dilemma about her husband's stand-up career. She initially set boundaries against him making jokes about their relationship but observes that other comedians frequently include such jokes, fearing it might limit his comedic potential.
Jackie's Response [50:27]: "Having this boundary is like holding me back a little bit... I think you should broach the subject and ask him, see how he feels about it."
Claudia's Addition: Claudia agrees but emphasizes understanding and maintaining respect within the relationship, suggesting open communication to navigate the balance between personal boundaries and professional growth.
Question 2: Inheritance Secrets from Granny Another listener reveals that her grandmother disclosed plans to split her $4 million inheritance between her and a sibling, urging her to keep it confidential from her family. The hosts discuss the potential motives behind the grandmother's request and advise maintaining discretion to avoid familial tensions.
Notable Quotes:
Question 3: Vocabulary Struggles Post-Motherhood A listener, a 30-something mother of two, expresses concerns about her limited spoken vocabulary compared to her written communication skills, fearing it might impact her professional interactions.
Jackie's Response [59:40]: "Doing this podcast every day forces me to exercise my brain... Reading, of course."
Claudia's Advice: Claudia suggests engaging in more adult conversations and actively practicing new words to enhance verbal communication skills.
As the episode winds down, Jackie and Claudia tease upcoming episodes, including their continued collaboration and special announcements. They encourage listeners to engage with the podcast through various platforms and submit their own questions for the "Dear Toasters" segment.
Notable Quote:
Navigating Fame and Virality: Claudia's viral TikTok highlights the unpredictable nature of social media success and the importance of strategic content distribution.
Comedy Industry Dynamics: The cancellation of Pete Davidson's gig and discussions about comedy relationships underscore the complexities and high-stakes environment within the comedy scene.
Influence of Media Outlets: The departure of British Vogue's editor-in-chief and the strategic assembly of star-studded covers illustrate the power and influence of major media publications.
Personal Boundaries in Professional Growth: The advice segment emphasizes the need for open communication and maintaining personal boundaries to support loved ones' professional endeavors without compromising personal relationships.
Adapting Communication Skills Post-Parenthood: The challenges faced by the listener regarding vocabulary post-motherhood highlight the impact of life changes on professional communication and the importance of continuous personal development.
Claudia [04:05]: "A huge part of maintaining a healthy mindset in life is to acknowledge exciting things coming."
Claudia [06:18]: "I literally went to bed and I was like, oh, my God, 700,000 views. I woke up this morning. Now, 6.3 million."
Claudia [07:21]: "People being like, you are just, like, rich. This is such, like, a privileged first world problem."
Claudia [20:25]: "Comedians don't give a fuck."
Claudia [33:08]: "I need someone to explain to me what the hell is going on."
Claudia [45:12]: "Lin Manuel is the cream. Period."
Jackie [50:27]: "Having this boundary is like holding me back a little bit... I think you should broach the subject and ask him, see how he feels about it."
Claudia [55:27]: "It's giving diabolical granny."
Jackie [59:40]: "Doing this podcast every day forces me to exercise my brain... Reading, of course."
This episode of The Toast blends personal anecdotes with current events, offering both entertainment and insightful discussions. Jackie and Claudia's chemistry and humor make complex topics relatable, while their advice segments provide practical solutions to listener dilemmas. Whether tackling the unpredictability of viral fame or the nuances of comedy relationships, the hosts deliver a rich and engaging narrative that resonates with both longtime listeners and newcomers alike.