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Good morning, girlies.
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It's the toast.
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It's Jackson Claude and we're your host.
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It's your favorite show, the best five things you need to know. We'll start your day off swirly. It's the toast.
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They sound amazing.
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Welcome back to the toast and happy Thursday. Hope everybody's having a great day. Great day.
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Happy Thursday, fam.
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Speaking of great girls.
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Oh, it's me.
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Speaking of great.
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Speaking of greatness.
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I have that sweater.
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Avara.
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Is this nice to have a nice sweater?
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You know, I have two of these because I from Avara. I didn't know that.
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What do you think you're the only one who got gifting from our sponsor?
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No, but like I didn't know that you wear the sweater. Like I love this sweater. You know, it's so interesting.
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I actually wear that sweater all the time on the toes. But I guess you're not like noticing
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me or I just see it. Like I see a white collar sweater and I don't realize like it's the exact same one that we're that simpatico.
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We. Oh my God. I have to yell at you for something.
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What?
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I do. So we took a little date trip yesterday, you, Ben and I for a little secret project. We had a meeting and so of course we'd like a 30 minute drive to the meeting. So before the meeting we had to get snacks and we got a bunch of stuff like turkey sandwiches, croissant, some other stuff. And we ate it all. You were eating it in the backseat. Okay, and we ate it all. We like left it in the bag. Right, Yours. There was a quiche. You know, we left like all the garbage. It was like a big bag with all the stuff and like the garbage.
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Okay, but like not my garbage because I brought mine into the meeting and then.
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Ben, not her garbage. Garbage. What about the quiche?
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But you were seat.
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You were sitting in the back seat and you left the bag of garbage. I got into the car this morning with a bag that had been left overnight in the heat with quiche tuna
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sandwiches of your garbage in your car.
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It was our lunch and you were sitting in the back seat. Where the garbage.
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You guys gave me a tuna sandwich
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when we were leaving the car. It is on you to bring the garbage.
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I didn't even know that was a gar. I didn't know there was anything in there. Sure, you guys went shopping. There was like market goods in there.
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Yes, that was different.
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That was a different bag. Be like less my problem.
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100. We procure the food And. And you left the tuna in my car over.
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There was no tuna. Ben ate the other half of my sandwich.
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Oh, the garbage. Okay, you know what?
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Garbage.
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It was a bit. Right there. I brought it. There was a big thing of garbage.
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I had no.
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All of our food.
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Your food. I don't work our food.
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No, we got the food. It was our food.
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You and Ben got the food I wasn't with.
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For all of us.
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And you gave me my sandwich, and I handled myself.
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You a quiche.
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You gave me my sandwich, and I handled my sandwich.
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It was a group thing. Like, if you want to be now independent, like, out on your own, I would. Not a group thing. We. We all got lunch from the same
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place, and I have to throw away your garbage.
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Our garbage?
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My garbage wasn't in there.
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You were in the back with the garbage, and you left it in the back.
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Your garbage that I didn't even know was garbage because you had, like, canned tuna in there that, like, you bought from the market.
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No, we didn't. No, we didn't. That was a different bag.
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I didn't go through the bags while I was sitting back there.
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Well, when you were leaving the car, like, you take all the trash.
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I didn't know it was trash. You guys went marketing.
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Okay, that was a different bag.
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I know you want to blame this on me, but you just have to concede it's not. I. I handled my business, but, like,
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it's not your business when we all had lunch together. Like, it's our stuff.
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We had lunch together.
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We went to the St. Ambrose market. Or.
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No, me. You guys went without me.
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We bought lunch for all of us while you were shopping. We all bought lunch from the same place. We all ate it together like, it's lunch.
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We didn't eat.
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It's group lunch.
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I ate mine in the meeting.
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Well, she brought the other half of her sandwich.
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I put the other half of the sandwich.
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It was a group meeting.
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My lunch was like.
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You can't. You can't remove yourself from the lunch.
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I handled my lunch.
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You cannot remove yourself from the lunch. It was a group lunch.
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I know you want someone to blame.
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No, I don't want.
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That was.
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I have someone to blame.
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And unfortunately, I guess you can't blame them because he was driving.
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Correct. It's you.
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It's you.
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No, no, it's you, sweetie.
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It's. You literally couldn't be less me.
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You were in the backseat.
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It couldn't be less me.
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100%. Yeah. 100.
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I don't know what's in those bags that you guys threw in the back. It's your car.
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We're all eating lunch.
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I ate my lunch alone.
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Stop removing your lunch from the group lunch.
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I ate my lunch alone.
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It was a group lunch. It was one receipt. Like, we all bought lunch together, and we all, like, ate it together.
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We did not.
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So my car smelled like food this morning. That's what I've been up to.
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Well, I'm sorry that that happened to you because you didn't throw your through your fault.
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Yeah, it's okay.
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Don't worry about it. It's not my fault.
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Don't worry about it. Don't worry about it.
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It's not my fault. I'm not gonna wear that.
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No, it's okay. Don't worry.
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I'm not gonna wear that.
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Don't worry about it. Don't worry about it.
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You should be worried about not knowing how to accept responsibility.
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Worried? I'm not worried. Ben did buy, like, literally, like, canned sardines. We went to, like. It's like a. Like a. A mark.
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It was like.
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I keep calling it St. Ambrose. What is it? Like, I don't know where he went
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because I wasn't there.
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It's. You know, we got lunch for you while, like, you were shopping. You're welcome. First of all.
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No, I know. But I don't know where you went. But we were talking.
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Yes. Yes. Thank you. You do know where we went.
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Okay, Bill.
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Okay. And, like, so we. We bought all the food, and then, like, I'm leaving, like, we're done. And Ben's like, wait, I have to go back in. I'm like, what? And he leaves me in the hot, sweaty car. First of all, I'm dying, like, eating a croissant. He comes out with the biggest shopping bag of, like, they should make a store called Smelly disgusting Foods. And, like, Ben would be the CEO of it. He bought canned sardines, canned tuna, 40 mustard. Like, it was one of those specialty foods.
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There was, like, a jar. What was in that jar? Artichokes. No, it looked like a jar of art.
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I think it was sardines. No, I guess sardines are, like, canned.
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Yeah. No, it was. It looked like a jar of, like, you know, something.
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It was like, all the most disgusting food in the world sold in one store is. And. And they didn't even realize when they. Like, when Ben walked in that they met his mask.
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At least bring that into the house. Oh, okay. What's he gonna make with it?
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I don't even know. What it is.
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You're like, saying he went into the back, brought that.
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That wasn't in the back. That's what I'm saying. Yes, it was.
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I was sitting next to that. Remember, I said it was a brown
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bag, and it was looking for a white bag.
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I saw a bag of food. I was looking for a sweet treat.
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The brown bag was in the front. The white bag was in the back, and the white bag was huge, like, full of garbage.
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I never saw a white bag. I never even saw. I saw two brown bags.
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You need to be a little bit more aware.
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Aware of the garbage in your surroundings. Like, your surroundings aware of the garbage in your car.
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Huge white bag.
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You're telling me Ben went into the back seat, got the things that he brought from the market.
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The market bag was up in the front with me.
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No, no, no, it wasn't. Because, remember, I got into the back seat, and I said, is there a sweet treat in here? I'm like, oh, no, I don't want, like, yellow belly tuna.
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The brown bag, I believe I brought it in. Like, it was with my purse in the front seat.
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And what was it? What was the food in the back?
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Garbage?
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No, no, no. But I saw the cans of tuna. Remember? I said, no. I was like, what's this? Yellow belly tuna. He got, like, belly tuna. And I saw the cans of artichokes.
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The cans of artichokes made its way,
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so someone brought those in and willfully ignored the other bags. I rest my case.
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Backseat responsibility. Anyways, today's episode is gonna be, like, you know, quick and easy.
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Okay.
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I don't have a lot to add. Didn't really do much yesterday. Didn't play Maj was like being a businesswoman. We had a photo shoot, which was, like, devastating, obviously.
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Well, we did a lot yesterday. No, we had a photo shoot. We took a meeting. We got contentious lunch.
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Apparently, even though I loved it wasn't contentious.
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I loved my sandwich. I slid it with Ben. I brought it to the meeting. Everyone was laughing.
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I, like, walked into a meeting with the tuna sandwich, like. Like not even in her purse, like, holding it, like.
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I know, because I. Well, because you gave it to me in the car, but I could not eat in the back seat of the car, so I. And this sandwich looked amazing. So I brought it in. And, you know, I could have used a chip with my meal. And thankfully, when we walked into the meeting, they had a little basket of snacks, so I was able to prepare my sandwich with a plantain chip.
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And then also, when we walked into the meeting, I sat down in my chair, and I didn't realize that the chair had wheels. And I just sort of, like, rolled backwards a little bit into a plant. Like a big potted plant.
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It was huge.
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And the potted plant, like, literally fell over onto the ground. It was deeply humiliating. Like, just walking in, I just. I kept think, like, laughing to myself, thinking about what we looked like as
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a group walking in with our sandwich
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and stealing the free snack.
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All of us sitting down, not even high, just like, oh, you have chips. Good. I was looking for a chip.
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Thank Claudia.
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Knocked out in the furniture.
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Humiliating.
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Like, we don't even, like, say hi. We just, like, bumble in.
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Yeah. Seriously funny stuff.
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Really, really funny.
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But then we also had a photo shoot yesterday, which, like, was upsetting.
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Oh, it's okay. It's like, I know.
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Like, I feel like try being an influencer for a day. Like, having to, like, have all these body image issues and then, like, consistently photographed paparazzi, like, it's exhausting. I told Jackie, like, next time we launch merch, like, we. We're generating AI images of us in the merch. Like, I can't take it anymore.
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I want to Photoshop these pictures so hard that, like, we go viral for how hard we like this Photoshop job.
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Let's do it.
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I think that we will. No, the goal was to get, like, one suitable photo of each item.
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Doesn't matter if it's you or me.
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Yeah, yeah. Just one. And I think we achieved that. Yes.
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Yes. And it's like, that's what we have to do as business women. But, like, it's exhausting.
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It is exhausting. It's not just, like, body image issues, which, like, we all have. It's like, childbearing, of course.
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You know what I mean?
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It's like, we're trying to do these major things, and then we also have to do a photo shoot. Like, seriously, stop.
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No, it's. It's not our fault.
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No. So, like, maybe just the grace are
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on hold when you guys just, like, give grace in the comments. Okay.
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Yeah. No, the pictures are going to be amazing, but it's the process of getting there.
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Yeah.
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You know what I mean?
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And, like, I wonder if regular models, Regular. I mean, real models, like, do they sweat? Like, I feel like anytime I'm on set of a photo shoot, like, changing clothes, like, running around, like, I'm always getting, like, so hot and, like, sweaty. And I just can't really imagine, like, real models getting sweaty because they're, like, they're so Skinny.
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Like, I think they move at a slow, slower pace. I feel like shoots usually take all day credit to us. We did our shoot in under an hour. Like, we shot all of our items in under an hour. Most people, you know, they like to
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dilly dally, extend the day.
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They're paid by the hour.
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We are not hourly. No, we are not hourly.
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We're salaried.
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Love that.
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No, no, that's like the opposite of that.
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No, I know, but it rhymes.
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Yeah, we're salaried. So we. So we moved swiftly.
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I love being salaried. Like, I just think that, like, salaries are amazing.
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Yeah.
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Hope everybody gets the salary that they want. I'm sending salary desk to everyone here today.
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Yeah.
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Just love, like, when I see my salary come in, I'm like, yes. Yeah. Don't you find more salaries? Yes, more salaries in 20, 26. Salary, like, always puts a smile on my face.
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Yeah.
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Like, look at us. We're like, we're giddy. Like, salary, salary. Not to be confused with celery, which does not put a smile on my face.
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No, Never. Fine.
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It's not.
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Celery's fine.
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It's not.
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It's a nice little crunch.
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What did you call it? What is it? Celery and carrots.
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The French word n place?
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No, micropo. What is it?
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Micropo, like the aromatics.
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Like.
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Yeah. When you do that in the pot, that's micropo.
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But that doesn't sound familiar. But you know what I'm talking about.
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Yeah, No, I think it's micropox. Like, they're micropox. Like M I C R E P O I X. Very liqueur, damble mise in place is when you prep your ingredients ahead of cooking in little bowls. Like you're on a cooking show.
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That's so Rachel. Right.
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It's so important to me.
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Someplace meet some place has a place.
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Like if you meet some place early in the day and then like you cook at dinner time, it's a breeze.
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Absolutely.
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Life's a breeze.
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Life's a breeze when you have a salary.
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Yeah. But then you have to have a photo shoot.
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Did you feel like there's like a weird vibe in the air?
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It's very hot here. Oh, yeah. Raining.
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Do you remember when we were the Hampton two summers ago and we were like acting so crazy, so we thought the house had mold.
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That house 100 had mold. In retrospect actually can't convince me otherwise.
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I agree.
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I.
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We did buy an at home mold
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test, but, like, it takes weeks. We didn't do it, but it. A hundred percent.
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But it was affecting our state of mind. Yeah, that's a little moldy today.
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That's what mold does. And I do feel like kids were getting sick.
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Totally.
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We were only there for a month.
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That's enough to leave a lasting impact.
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No, it's just. It's hot in here. It's raining outside. Oh, yeah.
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What's up?
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It's, like, overcast.
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What's that about?
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I don't know. But it was hard because it was like, I need my sunglasses on. But now it's, like, really dark.
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So, like, the. The sunglasses and, like, the rain. You know when it's, like, gray out and it's, like, so bright, but there's no sun to be had? What is that?
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And then, like, I put my sunglasses on. I'm like, okay, well, I'm driving in the dark now.
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Yeah, right.
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Safe. But then I take it off, and I'm like, well, I'm ruining my Botox by squinting so hard.
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So true.
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And so.
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And when you have photo shoots, like, you can't be doing that.
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And then I also, like, struggle with, like, how strong to have my windshields go. Do you change them all the time?
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When I. But yes. But when I was driving here today, it wasn't actively raining, so I didn't have them on.
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Oh, okay. Because I'm looking at other people. I'm like, you guys don't even have your windshields going. I have mine out of four.
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I think it's, like, a flex to, like, have it on a very low or a zero. Being like, I can see, like, rain is whatever. Okay.
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I can't.
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Yeah. I just. I hate that. Even better. Can you turn the windshield wipers on? I think it's, like, a very guy thing to be like, windshield wipers. Like, whatever.
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No, when it's, like, when I'm driving, I turn them up to a four because obviously the rain comes down harder. But then I'm at the stoplight, and it's actually, like, not raining, so I turn them off. I literally am changing my windshield volume every two minutes.
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I think that's, like, a girl thing. You think? I think it's a gendered issue.
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I think I'm just an overthinker. No, no.
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I'm telling you, like, it's a girl thing.
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Maybe if I were distracted, I wouldn't be noticing, like, my windshield's going and there's no rain. Like, I would just not notice.
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I. I hear it, like, when the windshields are going and there's no rain. It's like.
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And then like, if you focus on them too hard, I'm like, it is a. Turn this racket down.
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It's vertigo.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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So that's a struggle.
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Yeah.
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But I made it here. Thank God it did stop raining along the way, which always helps. Like, the rain. Driving in the rain. Less.
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Very dangerous.
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Less than. Like, it's just not. It's not fun.
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What are the stories like today?
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You know, just a lot of topics that we've been covering. Some updates, developing news. Yeah, developing, I would say. I think people will be pleased. It's the hot topics.
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Amen.
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I would say. Like, the things that people want to hear about. But who knows? You guys always complain about everything. Like, too much Summer House.
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Who? There's no such thing.
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What's Copper's bell burden? Like, what's Copper's bell burden? Educate yourself.
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What's Copper's bell burden? Are you even listening to anything we say?
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No, like, they're. They don't care about the book or anything, but, like, oh, I like how
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it's like, before I read the book, everyone loves it. Claudia, you need to read it. Then I read it. Everybody's like, can we stop talking about Copper's Belburton? I can't fucking win with you guys. Like, seriously. You're insane.
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We try to do, like, a different story. Like illiterate, not something like, so fucking brain rot.
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And like, I'm getting trouble.
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But I had fun 1,000%.
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B
And, like, we will always have Copper's all burden. Yeah. Can you say the same?
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A
No. And, like, we're just trying to, like, switch it up sometimes. No.
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B
And we're actually actively trying to, like, broaden our horizons. Like, just become better, more well rounded individuals.
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A
Yeah.
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B
No, get on board.
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A
We. It's good for the show.
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B
I just tell you something. I don't know if you know about this, but, like, people are freaking out. So Kiki Palmer is like, what, Sean Evans? Oh, sorry. Oh, my God. I didn't know if, like, that had, like, left TikTok yet.
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A
I'm. I'm right on top of that. Rose.
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B
Yes. Okay. Yeah.
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A
So I would say the stories are in tune with what's necessary. Sorry.
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B
That's good.
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A
Without further ado, da da do, here are the fast five stories that you do need to know.
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B
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A
Thank you. Code Turt.
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B
You're welcome.
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A
Our first story. Wes Wilson is allegedly not returning to Summer House.
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B
What?
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A
So insiders are saying that he has not been asked back for next season of Summer House after Ciara reportedly made it clear that she would only return if he didn't slay. And producers ultimately chose Ciara over West. Allegedly.
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B
Oh, my God.
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A
Okay.
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B
I didn't know, like, we were making casting decisions yet, so I wasn't even thinking about this.
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A
I feel like we're not.
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B
I just want to say if this is true, let's operate under the assumption that it's true. This is such a slay on Sierra's path because I'm sure part of Sierra didn't even want to return and doesn't need to, but the fact that she has the power to take the one thing that he cares about most in this world away, which, like, is his fame. And she decided to do it. Like, I love that.
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A
Okay. But also there's like a spin off show happening that's filming another, like, Summer House. Some Ozarks. Ozarks. And it's West.
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B
It's Midwestern. Yeah.
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A
It's West's friends. And he's going to be on that a little bit. So, like, he sort of has his next job. Oh, I don't know. Yeah, I don't think she can, like, stop him from being famous. I'm shocked that she wants to go back. Like, what's there for her anymore except to, like, mess with West. But, like, are we still messing with Wes?
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B
No, because that defeats the whole purpose. Like, this person has made it clear time and time again how little he cares or respects you. But you're gonna still spend so much of your time, energy, your career, you're
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A
gonna give your whole summer to this show just to stick to Tim.
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B
I hope not. Or she, like, likes the show and it's like, all good. I don't think she's like, you know, like, we were talking about, like, the Ariana Maddox pipeline. Whereas, like, I think that she's getting a lot of opportunities, but not like retirement stuff. Like, when Ariana was on that road, it was so clear. Like, she has max one season left. Like, it was just not. I feel like Sierra's like, still very much operating at this high level within the Bravo universe. I don't feel like she's exceeded it yet. So I don't think she's at a place yet where she can't, you know, can successfully turn it down and like, has a million opportunities. She definitely has, like a lot going on.
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A
I think after Dancing with the Stars, like, things might change. Like, it hasn't really all started started yet. And I think that really huge for her. But I agree. No, being on the show is never. Sometimes you can like leave and it gives you time back and you can do more, but it's never going to really hold you back. Like, it's just summer and it's prime time. Like, it's just not.
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B
It's not even the summer. It's the weekend.
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A
It's the weekends of the summer. You're on a major television show. Like, great.
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B
Yeah, it's true. It's like a low lift.
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A
Yeah. It's like it's never going to be a bad thing to stay on.
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B
And I do feel like the more senior you are, like, you do get away with like, Lindsay Hubbard barely shows up. Like, for the last couple of seasons. Like, I do think you get a little bit more Runway and like, flexibility in your schedule. Amanda and Kyle were always like missing weekends to like go to wedd and stuff.
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A
And then do you think in terms of like, plotline having Sierra in the house over west and Amanda is more interesting?
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B
No, it's more just like.
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A
And I'm more.
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B
And I'm all for justice. So it's like, yes, justice means Sierra gets the house. But like, terms of shit I want to watch. I want to see those two lunatics. Like, they're insane. They're crazy people and they don't give a fuck.
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A
Like, they're crazy people. Also, people really were shocked that, like, we're actually believing that they didn't sleep together until after the statement.
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B
I just would be hard pressed to believe that they're still lying because that would mean you're some of the dumbest people on the planet. Like, dumber than you.
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A
I know. And I've already realized, like, you're so dumb, you're extra dumb, you're incredibly dumb. But are you?
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B
Before we got watching a clip of west on his podcast and Sophie, his co host, was like, let's talk about Jesse, like, do you regret lying to Jesse? And Wes was like, I regret the lying. Of the part of this that I regret the most is the lying. Mostly because I have no credibility now. Like, no one's ever going to believe anything I say when, like, I literally have a track record of lying to the faces of people that I love and trust most in this world. So, like, yeah, I don't know why we would believe him, but I would be shocked if they're still lying. That's so dumb.
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A
I know. And this is what I'm always trying to say is, like, don't lie. Because then when you need people to believe you, they won't. And also, like, don't lie because it's, like, morally and wrong, but it's. It's for the next time, you know, it's for when you need to be believed. Like, he has zero credibility. Why would we believe anything that he says? So, yeah, I don't know if I'm naive or I just, like, actually can't believe that someone would be so, like, stupid and lie. Everything is online. People have photos, videos of everything. Like, text messages, receipts. Like, it's.
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B
I.
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A
If they are still lying, I would be shocked.
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B
Yeah, I would, too. So I. I'm gonna believe. And they're also just. Everything they're doing is weird. So, like, yeah, it would be weird that they didn't have sex until two weeks out. Like, they're just freaks.
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A
Agreed. But also, the. The lie that they're telling that they didn't sleep together till after the statement doesn't make their situation any better. It really doesn't. It's just like an.
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B
It actually makes it worse because they blew up their whole lives for someone that they've never actually, like, been intimate with. And, like, you don't know if you really, like. Like, you did all that, took all that risk for what.
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A
But I guess they're saying, like, we are going to be doing this. Sorry, but we're going to do it. Not like we've been doing it, but it's a bit of both, I don't think.
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B
The lie people have no reason to
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A
believe the lie that they're telling doesn't absolve them of anything. I don't feel any sort of way that they slept together after the statement versus before. Like, that doesn't move the needle for me at all. So if that's, like, the big lie, it's a waste of their breath.
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B
Agreed. But they're so obsessed with the timeline. Like, maybe I thought they were so
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A
obsessed with the timeline. Because they feel like the timeline vindicates
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B
them in some way, not having had an official affair.
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A
Yes. And it doesn't. Like, I under. Even if the timeline is as they say it is, it doesn't vindicate them from anything. They've been falling in love for months.
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B
And so west being off the show leaves us with Amanda or.
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A
No, I would think. No. You think Amanda's gonna go into the Lion's End without West, right? No. And if I were Sierra, I would have said without west and Amanda.
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B
Yeah. But this is all just put them
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A
both out of rumors. Yes, this is rumors, and.
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B
Exactly. It's weird. Like, Wes has this podcast. I was just watching a clip where it's like, we're hearing from the source. It has three likes. Like, it's like, it's not making an impact. I don't know why he's this, like, random sports podcast where he goes and talks about the summer house drama. Like, I don't get it.
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A
I feel bad for Sophie Cunningham, his co host.
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B
I mean, I don't. Because I feel like if their show has three listeners now, it would have had one before. So, like.
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A
No, but it's like, she threw in with this guy who just, like, wound up being the worst person to.
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B
Yeah, but let's. Let's say you're starting a podcast with, like, someone you like. You kind of know, and, like, the week before you launch your podcast, like, he's involved in literally, like, the biggest pop culture scandal. People are racing to podcasts for their takes and, you know, interviews. And you've got the guy.
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A
Yeah. It's kind of major, I guess, but I don't know. I just feel like it's a little beneath her, and she's like, I just
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B
keeping her talk about sports.
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A
Yeah.
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B
Like, here I'm asking you about Jesse Solomon.
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A
Jesse Solomon. Protect Jesse Solomon.
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B
Truly. After he apologizes to Lexi Wood. Yeah.
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A
And to us.
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B
No, I don't need it.
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A
No, I need. I need an apology. Like, that we were so gaslit into, like. Like, everyone saying that we were wrong about our take.
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B
We took so much heat for Lexi. Like, it's insane.
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A
I would do it again and again. I don't know how people watch that. And our team house and her team house, and it's the whole house that did it to her.
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B
Everyone, Amanda, Everyone.
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A
Sierra.
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B
All. Everyone.
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A
Wes, the boys. Are you moving too fast? Shut up.
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B
Seriously.
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A
The whole house did it to her.
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B
It's true.
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A
And we.
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B
Not us.
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A
Not us. Also, Kyle Cook is responding to threads about theories about Amanda and West saying that he believes that west hitched his wagon to Amanda after their divorce. So on threads, there was like, so
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B
much is happening on threads.
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A
I know I'm never downloading it, but I hope everyone's having fun over there. It looks interesting. There's a couple.
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B
It does, yeah.
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A
But anyway, someone on threads was like, here's my theory about, like, what happened and what Wes Wilson was doing. He saw that Amanda was, like, having a summer where she was probably going to emerge from. To see the Ariana Maddox victim. Like, everybody loves her because she's going to be, like, the scorned woman rising from the ashes. And so, like, he hitched his wagon to that person, got really close with her, and then sort of, like, fell into this situation. But it was all born of the fact that he was trying to, like, capitalize on what she was going to be doing.
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B
I love.
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A
And then Kyle responded, and Lindsay responded. Lindsay responded, like, nailed it.
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B
Got it.
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A
And Kyle responded, of all the theories, this is what I believe. Just looked back and did a rewatch of my street interview. I discuss this very concept and refer to him trying to be a knight in shining armor and saying that and saying what women want to hear. In part three of Adam Glenn's videos on TikTok, he hitched his wagon to Amanda. And as someone referred to it on Reddit, he white knighted too far.
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B
Okay. Not Kyle reading Reddit. He needs to calm down. So I like the theory. Like, in the base of the theory, just being like, Wes is this, like, desperate, desperate, thirsty loser, like, who will do anything to be famous. I do think the theory gives him, like, a little too much credit in terms of, like, being that strategic. Like, I don't think he's that smart, but I do. Like, not enough people are talking about how, like, why this west thing is so crazy for a million reasons, is because outside of west and his, like, you know, summer house drama, he's, like, always on the Internet being, like, a woman's advocate. I don't know if you've seen that. And it's like, it's always those guys who are, like, the worst sound of, like, just a Maldoni, you know, like Tony Stars. Sorry. But it's always, like, the feminists.
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A
Yeah.
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B
That are, like, like, literally beating women, like, metaphorically. That's also what makes the situation so crazy. And I feel like Kyle kind of said that in, like, a backwards way. I don't know if he meant to, but I don't. I don't like this theory. I just Want to say yes?
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A
No. But I could see. I don't know how they got to the point of, like, falling in love and had an affair, but I could see over the summer where he was like, everyone's going to, like, love and
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B
let me get in good with her.
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A
Like, let me support the person that everyone's going to love. I feel like people do that in general. If you see someone is in an argument, you support the side. That's right. Because you want to be on the right side. But I do. I could see it having been, like, a little strategic of, like, I'm gonna support, like, this victimized woman.
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B
Yeah.
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A
Yeah. And throughout the season, we never got to see it through that lens because
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B
now we see it through this lens
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A
because, like, in the middle of the summer, we started hating them. But if we had seen when Kyle says to Amanda, fuck you, and then Wes brings his chair and there's our bonus. The way the Internet would have loved that.
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B
It's true.
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A
It's true. Love that. So he was, whether it was intentional or not, like, was playing into that. Playing into that. And he would have been onto something if he hadn't so fucked it up. Yeah.
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B
It's true.
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A
Her too. I will never get over the generational fumble. I will never. Because Sierra, I mean, Amanda was supposed to be the. The Sierra Ariana of this season.
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B
Yeah.
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A
And now it had started and now she's the Sandoval.
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B
It's insane. The fall from grace.
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A
No, it's insane.
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B
It is.
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A
And, like, do you feel like you
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B
would never catch me being so stupid?
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A
Are your feelings for west really stronger than a couple million dollars?
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B
Not even a couple million. Like $10 million. Maybe more.
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A
Are they stronger than that?
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B
They better be. You two have to be magnificent.
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A
They have to be.
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B
That's the only way for this to have ended up.
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A
Okay.
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B
Is we come back in five years and you guys are still together. We come back in 10 years, you guys are still together. Net.
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A
Net. I would say, like, that's the financial loss here.
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B
$10 million.
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A
$10 million over time.
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B
I agree. Not even over time.
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A
The brand deals that she was doing that she's no longer doing the ones she would have done as the season continued to get worse and worse for Kyle and she's. And then the reunion when she has her, like, middle moment. Revenge stress. Throughout the. This summer. Everything, like, throughout, like, this next summer, like, and then plus, probably her Dancing with the Stars, probably her traders. Oh, and is she gonna be on the show anymore? That paycheck ends right.
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B
Right no, it's a she should go
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A
on Traders because we never know what she means.
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B
So true. Even at the reunion, she's just so stoic.
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A
Well, people are saying she looks medicated, and I would agree. Yeah, well, she is medicated. She has shared that. But she looks numbed.
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B
Yeah, like beta blocker, whatever those are. I mean, one thing about me, I have no idea what a beta blocker is.
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A
I don't know what it is either. I always thought it would be like, a Xanax, but it's not.
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B
No, no. Khloe Kardashian, like, was talking about it once, and it's just like. Like, all of your cells. Like, it's just like. It's like a neutralizer.
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A
Could you ask Chat what it is?
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B
Like, I would like not knowing, but.
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A
Yeah, but now that we're, like, servicing it, I don't know what it is. I just want to know.
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B
What's a beta blocker? Question mark. What does it make you feel?
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A
Do we need them?
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B
A beta blocker. It's a type of medication that slows down the effects of adrenaline on your body. So it blocks beta receptors mainly in the heart and blood vessels. Ooh.
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A
So I guess it's like you're having a performance. It's good to take, like, before performance.
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B
So some people describe it as your brain being anxious, but your body not being able to rev up. Possible side effects include fatigue, dizziness, cold hands and feet, exercise intolerance. Oh, I take baby blockers. They're not sedatives and they're not intoxicating. Most people still feel mentally clear.
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A
Okay.
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B
They can be dangerous for people with asthma. So you shouldn't take it if you have asthma.
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A
So they block your beta.
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B
Exactly.
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A
Okay, so yeah, she's probably on, like, a bunch. Like, she's definitely numbed.
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B
Yeah.
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A
As. And people are saying, like, her pupils are dilated. I don't know about all that.
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B
Me neither.
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A
But she's already a medicated individual, and I'm sure she loaded up for this huge, loaded life event. Yeah, that's a huge source of stress, anxiety.
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B
Because a person who's not medicated would need to be medicated.
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A
Like, and so a person who is medicated would probably double up. Like, this is probably like, the most. Most stressful, anxiety inducing thing a human being can experience in this day and age.
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B
Yeah.
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A
Like sitting there for the roast and It's.
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B
It's literally 13 hours.
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A
Oh, my God.
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B
Miserable and, like, in a full, tight dress.
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A
So, like, when people are saying. They're not saying Anything. Like what? Like, what do you want them to like.
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B
I know they're probably just like, butt
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A
punching, waiting for it to genuinely just took meds. They're sitting there like. Like the cardboard cutouts.
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B
No, they do, you know when, like, when like, somebody smokes pot and they, like, get like, anxious so they sit there in silence like, that's what they both look like.
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A
No, they. Their job was to show up. That's.
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B
And they. It's TR the bare minimum. It so TBD if he doesn't return. Although I will say from like, an entertainment perspective, like, not loving that.
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A
Agreed. And I could see, like, Sierra not needing the show anymore.
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B
Yeah.
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A
So especially Dancing with the Stars would be in the fall. She'll be back. Back up and running.
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B
Yeah.
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A
Our next story, a little more reality TV news. Lyousa Love Island USA is asking fans to keep it kind on social media ahead of the season eight premiere.
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B
So love about me is I hate the Love island production team. Like, I think that they're like, the worst people ever. Like, this happened last season. First of all, I don't even know what they're referring to. Like, did something happen or. This is like a precursor.
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A
I feel like it's a precursor because, like, last season, things got out of hand. Who did they get out of hand towards? I don't like, remember. But they had to. They had to. Huda, Was it that? Yeah, but that's for me, it's like, well, you cast a crazy person to go.
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B
Not only did you cast a crazy person, you saved her time and time again. There's like three or four bonfire ceremonies where you sent home lovely people.
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A
Yeah.
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B
Because you wanted to keep this crazy person. So, like, stop giving us crazy and, like, wanting us to and then being mad at how we react.
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A
Mad that we have a reaction to craziness.
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B
Yeah.
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A
Yeah.
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B
They also are just, like, so, like, they are so tuned into, like, their fandom, and their fandom is crazy, and they let the fandom, like, run the show. So I like, I love, love Island. I think that the production is, like, nutty. So what did they say this time and what are they talking about?
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A
I think they're just like, you know, trying to remind everyone because people do get so activated about the show in general. I don't know if they started filming because the premieres June 2, so they probably have, like, the early episodes and maybe, like, things are crazy already and we're gonna, like, hopefully hate someone and want to bully them.
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B
Hopefully.
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A
They posted the Villa runs on good
- [33:16]
B
vibes and so does this the biggest lie ever told? The villa runs on good vibes.
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A
It runs on psych.
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B
Crazy vibes. Yeah.
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A
We love seeing your reactions, opinions, and debates, but everyone deserves to feel safe and respected.
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B
Like, I. Yeah.
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A
This is a space for fun, not negativity. Sure, sure. Literally, sure. Like, you torture people. Like a psychological.
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B
And the challenges are literally designed to humiliate people.
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A
So keep it in mind, keep it positive, and remember, this is Love Island.
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B
And why don't you see that statement into a mirror?
- [33:45]
A
It's not Love Island. It's psychological warfare island.
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B
Yeah. And, like, I'm just letting you know, like, I'm not listening to that because I'm gonna engage with the content you put out in whatever way I see fit. Like, I just have. And if you don't want people to have, like, outsized reactions, why don't you keep the crazy people? Huda Mustafa off the television? She's so nuts. You see, she released a song.
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A
I did, I did.
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B
Somebody said, it's Lash Tech music, and I seriously cracked.
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A
What is it?
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B
Lash Tech music?
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A
What, like when you're getting eyes.
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B
Yeah. It's like. It's music that only exists, but, like, at the Lash Tech.
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A
That's funny. Our spa, like, plays, like, instrumental versions of Sabrina Carpenter.
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B
Oh, our nail place.
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A
Yeah.
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B
Yeah. They play, like, really?
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A
Like, what's that genre called? Like, boss nova?
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B
I have no idea.
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A
Bossy nova.
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B
Like generic bossa nova. I've never heard of that.
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A
Bossa nova. Yeah, you have. No, it's like the girl from Ippolita.
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B
What the are you talking about?
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A
Yeah, I know.
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B
You mean Zubi Zoobi Zoo. What's that called?
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A
Bossa nova.
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B
That's a genre of music.
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A
That's. It's.
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B
It's so Lauren Bostic.
- [34:49]
A
Yes, it is. She literally, I think one time she came on this show.
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B
That's why I know the word.
- [34:54]
A
Because I was like, what kind of music do you like? And she's like, bosanova. I'm like, okay, moving.
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B
You can leave.
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A
It's a relaxed style of samba developed.
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B
Yeah. So they do, like, samba. Sambiana Grande, like our nail place.
- [35:06]
A
Zombiana Carpenter.
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B
Yeah. It's like something about you. Zubi feel like a dangerous. Yeah. And that's what Huda's music sounds like. Got it. If Huda Mustafa has zero haters, like, I've seriously passed away. Give my best to Romeo.
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A
Yeah, he'll be fine.
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B
She's all completely. She's all over my, like, tik tok and stuff now because she released a Song. Yeah, she did like an interview being like, yeah, we're releasing an album and everybody's like, okay.
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A
It took a while. Yeah, it's been a whole year.
- [35:34]
B
Well, she was busy abusing her boyfriend and his baby mama.
- [35:38]
A
Yeah.
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B
That's obviously very time consuming.
- [35:40]
A
That is. And then she had Winter Games.
- [35:42]
B
Oh, yeah. I feel like the Winter Games really came and went.
- [35:45]
A
Yeah. Who won?
- [35:46]
B
Was it a competition?
- [35:47]
A
I would think so. If it's games, I'll find out on Potter.
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B
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- [35:55]
A
So the purple team one,
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B
that's great.
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A
Okay, well, la use a couple days. Are you ready?
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B
I'm like, not. It's so much. It's so much scheduling. Like, it's so much infrastructure. But I will do my best.
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A
Yeah.
- [36:15]
B
And like, how do you think we're going to be recapping, like you said this summer, like, every day, once a week.
- [36:20]
A
So the way that we did it last summer when we had guest co hosts, it would really be like every couple days when the co host was watching. I feel like with you and I, maybe at the end of every episode, we'll do. Allow you to recap. If we're watching every night, it'll be really hard to wait till the end of the episode. But, like, we have to because not everyone watches. And like, I want to encourage people to not watch.
- [36:38]
B
I know, but I really enjoyed all the content last summer and there were a couple of people being like, you guys cannot stop talking about anything but Lusa. So this is like just your message. Like, we are going to be recapping. Lusa, if you'd like to join us. Like, it's now's the time.
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A
But I just want to say, like, if it is really bad, and I thought last season was pretty bad. If it's even worse than that.
- [36:55]
B
You thought last season was really bad. I feel like. Like it was really good.
- [36:58]
A
No, it was. And like, the production was so frustrating. Like, sending home Jeremiah, sending home Hannah, just when she has a connection with Pep. Like, it was infuriating. Like, keeping Huda over and over again. So if it's really bad, I'm going to stop watching. Like, I'm like, I have a family and a full life and like, I'm going to give my time back.
- [37:17]
B
It is an insane amount of content to ask people to watch. What is it, six hours a week?
- [37:21]
A
Yeah, well, episodes are like more than an hour. Right. And the way that it's filmed and like, it's so slow.
- [37:26]
B
Yeah.
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A
So, like, I'm just letting you know they have like, to Reach. They have to reach a certain standard in order for me to watch.
- [37:33]
B
It's important to keep your standards high.
- [37:35]
A
Yeah, no, no, I'm just, I'm letting everyone know next as I get to say.
- [37:39]
B
Putting them on notice.
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A
I'm putting them on notice for sure. Are you ready for our next story?
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B
If it's our next story that's brought to you by. What's the password here? Oh, by booking.com. booking. Yeah. So imagine this. You're traveling with three toddlers, two grandparents, a nap sched. That rules it all. Plus, you might need blackout curtains in separate rooms. Or you're a band with a very particular soundproofing need. Or you're a foodie friend group. Or you're booking for a partner who only sleeps on 800 thread count sheets. Well, no matter what type of trip you're booking for, booking.com probably has what you need. They offer a wide array of hotels and vacation rentals across the US you can find exactly what you're booking for. There's something for everyone, even those who are impossible to please. So whether you're booking for yourself, your partner, your picky teens, your sleep light rise, early mom, or your high maintenance group chat, you can find everything that you're booking for. For. So if we can find our perfect day, really anyone can. Because I feel like these days we have so many specifications for what we need from a trip. Like, yes, we need a room that can also be converted into a podcast studio, a couple of rooms that have kitchenettes and like, perhaps like a breast pump. There's just like a lot of things that we need. And booking.com is probably the only place where we.
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A
Thank you, Turdy.
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B
You're welcome.
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A
Our next story, Kiki Palmer romance rumors swirl with Hot Ones host Sean Evans after his crush confession. So Hot Ones host Sean Evans, who hosts Hot Ones, the show everybody loves, went on Kiki Palmer's podcast and the two of them are sparking romance rumors after the two of them flirted throughout out the episode.
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B
It's a really flirty episode. First of all, I ship so hard because first of all, you know that Kiki Palmer is like one of the most like most watched episodes of Hot Ones. She did like before the show really took off. She like really her episode put the show on the map and she was being so funny. So now I think she's the person who's been on the most times. It's like either two or three times and he's just like every time she's on, he like doesn't know what to do with her. He's like really dazzled by her and I feel like kind of shy, but he is like a little weird. So you're like, oh, maybe, but then a couple.
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A
Because we also thought like him and Chloe, right?
- [42:45]
B
Yeah, no, we, we hoped there was nothing there.
- [42:47]
A
But like I feel like a couple times like because he's single and he has on these eligible, beautiful women and
- [42:51]
B
he asks really thoughtful questions and I think a lot of times people end up just feeling very seen by him. So people were like, is there Something there, but nobody ever really was talking about it. And then he went on Chicken Shop, and she was like, have you ever, like, had a crush on any of your guests? And he was like, yes. And she was, like, guessing, and he was, like, giving clues. Like, you know, we shared this guest.
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A
Guest.
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B
And she couldn't figure it out. So he was just like, Kiki Palmer. And we were like, oh. Like, we were. We were on to something. And now she had him on her podcast where they're literally just flirting for an hour. And, like, good luck watching a clip. Like, you're just, like, big dope, like, smiling ear to ear. It's so cute. I think her mom was there, too.
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A
Yeah.
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B
And there's just, like, a lot of really cute moments. Like, I ship so hard. And we know that Kiki Palmer, I don't know a lot about her dating life, but I know, like, her previous partner, who is the father of her child, is, like, the devil. So we want, like, a nice picture. Yeah. I think he's, like, a really, like, nerdy, nice guy.
- [43:43]
A
Yeah. So they are flirting on the episode. There's clearly, like, attraction both ways. It's established on his end. Like, he said he's had a crush on her. He. In the episode, he said that his celebrity crush growing up was Left Eye. And then Kiki said, I played Chili in the TLC Story movie. Close enough. And then he said, absolutely close enough.
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B
Do you think that they're dating?
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A
And, like, no, but, like, okay, I think that. Say they're not dating, but what do I know? This is just how I think about it. Say they're not dating, but then they. It's just always been in the background. Like, every time we see each other. It's really nice. He goes on your podcast. Okay. It's very clear. We're both single. We're both interested. We're having a great time. Like, they are going on a date now. Yeah.
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B
They abs. Even just to, like, give the Internet what they want. Like, we need to see them spotted. But I do think that there's, like, real potential here.
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A
Of course.
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B
Stop. It's seriously so cute. I love Kiki Palmer more than anything in this whole world.
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A
Like, Kiki said, like, shout out to Mr. And Mrs. Evans, like, your parents.
- [44:36]
B
Yes.
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A
And he was like, oh, I thought you were talking about us.
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B
Yes.
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A
I'm dead.
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B
No, it's smooth. Very slick. Very slick. I can't. I also feel like the one thing that's missing from Kiki's Palmer's career, like, is a relationship. I Don't know who her ex was, but he wasn't like, very well known. So, you know, it's just always a good way to, like, you know, rise your star. And I would love this.
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A
They need to go out, like, give it a shot. Let's see what happens. I don't see a reason why not.
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B
Yeah, it's not like they're like, co workers. Like, it would mean ruin a friendship.
- [45:05]
A
Yeah. Like, they've both been on each other's podcasts. Like, so if they never could go on again, no big deal.
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B
Feel seriously cute.
- [45:10]
A
Yeah, I think they're gonna go out.
- [45:12]
B
I think they've already gone out before the episode. I don't know.
- [45:18]
A
Like, maybe the timing in the past just, like, wasn't right. Like, she was in that relationship.
- [45:21]
B
Right. And then she was like a new mom. But I feel like now's everything's like, really settled.
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A
It's time. Yeah. Our next story, some slamo production news. The producer of Secret Lives and Mormon Wives confirmed in an interview to Variety that both Taylor and Dakota are welcome back to Secret Lives of Mormon Wives.
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B
I don't believe you.
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A
He said. I've talked to Taylor and she wants to come back and I want her to come back. He told Variety that he's hopeful she will return to filming the show. He compared her to reality star predecessors Paris Hilton and Kim Kardashian. He said, Taylor, Frankie Paul has that thing like her two predecessors do, where she's just made for this to share her life on camera. She does it like breathing air. She doesn't edit herself. She's really built for. For this type of lane. He said that due to the dual restraining orders from Dakota and Taylor, production won't be able to unable to film them interacting for the foreseeable future. He said, but I'm very hopeful that we'll be shooting with both of them or either of them very soon.
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B
I have no problem with Taylor returning. Like, she's problematic, but it's her show. Like, she can return to her show. I have, like, a really big problem with that weasel returning.
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A
Like, I won't watch and I have a problem, like, on being behalf of her. Of course, you know, because it is
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B
her show on behalf of women.
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A
Yeah.
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B
Like, as if the men of that show, like, did we not learn? Like, they ruined the show.
- [46:38]
A
They added nothing. So it's not like we're missing anything by reducing their time. But it's unfair to her to have him on. He can go build his own thing and agree his own.
- [46:49]
B
This is a Show that's like really built off of her back.
- [46:51]
A
Yeah. And like, if this is her abuser, it's not fair to. Even if they don't have to film together. Like, like, he's always in the dialogue, he's always in the press. Like, he's. When they're doing, you know, shows and other girls are talking about, like, just remove him from the equation, please.
- [47:04]
B
Agreed. I can't.
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A
Especially if we want her to heal. Like, I think everybody who is a fan of the show or works on the show is rooting for her, is disappointed by her. But, like, wants her to heal and like, be the best, be better person that she.
- [47:18]
B
No, we have. We're not discarding her mother.
- [47:20]
A
That she can.
- [47:21]
B
Absolutely.
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A
And if we are. And a production too, like, if we're really invested in like her healing, you should not put on him on the show because it just sets her back. She's incapable of compartmentalizing.
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B
Yeah.
- [47:33]
A
That also makes her a good reality. Like, yeah, we should say compartmentalize better, but also makes her a good reality star. She never thinks, should I not put this on tv? Should I not say this?
- [47:41]
B
Yes. All of that. I agree. But it's also just like, it's ethically wrong. Like, this is a bad person and like, why let's normalize. Like not engaging with bad people.
- [47:49]
A
Yeah. And at a certain point, the. There's no longer entertainment value.
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B
No.
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A
It's all this project. No. But it's been done. Like, there's nothing that could happen between the two of them that I'm sat for. Like, I, I don't care.
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B
Yeah. I don't need to sit down. Conversation run its course.
- [48:04]
A
I don't care if they hook up again and then it fall out again. Like, I'm not interested in that. I don't think anyone is. When we saw like, where it gets to like, I think we closed the door.
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B
Yeah, agreed. But she's welcome back. It's her show. Show.
- [48:17]
A
Of course. That's how I feel. Actually. I'm not saying of course because I think people would say no.
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B
Right.
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A
I personally think that it. She should be back. She wants to come back. Our fifth and final story is sort of some major news and it's part of a new segment that is now being called TPN Toast Passion News.
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B
Okay.
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A
So it's just a subject of things we're passionate about or I or both are passionate about.
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B
Okay.
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A
And that is Susan Boyle's new era.
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B
Okay. So you are passionate about.
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A
Susan Boyle reveals a jaw dropping radical transformation as A new era so starts for the recently reclusive star. So Susan Boyle has wiped her Instagram account and revealed revealed new images of herself after a jaw dropping makeover.
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B
You think it was AI?
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A
No.
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B
Oh really?
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A
I don't think so. Like, so there's a couple.
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B
One of her crossing the street I
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A
thought was in a fur coat with like the very Beatles with the new hair. Like here she just is at the microphone. Why would that be AI?
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B
No, that's not AI.
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A
That there's.
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B
I'm seriously cracking the up.
- [49:12]
A
So she's teaching the drama.
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B
She has Bob.
- [49:16]
A
She sort of looks like Anna Wintour.
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B
Yes, yes.
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A
She has like a very blunt bob, icy sunglasses.
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B
She's wearing a huge sunglasses and fur coat.
- [49:25]
A
But it also says hashtag ad. A new era starts tomorrow.
- [49:28]
B
What?
- [49:29]
A
Like she wiped her Instagram for an ad?
- [49:31]
B
An ad?
- [49:32]
A
An advertisement for what?
- [49:34]
B
But how can it be an ad if you don't tag the advertiser?
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A
Well, I think Susan like does things in her own way.
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B
Yeah, I agree. And I could see her like her fingers slipping.
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A
Or it's like an ad because her record labor is making her post about her new music.
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B
Or like it's an ad because like she thinks it stands for amazing display. One thing about Susan is that you
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A
can't, you cannot in a box. They tried to. When she stepped onto that stage, they thought she was just going to be like a sad woman.
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B
Although I will say I think a lot of the appeal is her sadness and like her homely vibe. Vibe and this sort of like chic fashion forward era for her. I don't know if people will be receptive to it. I think they like her like sort of nightgown.
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A
They want to keep her down.
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B
House Frau Energy.
- [50:20]
A
I think they want to keep her down.
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B
I don't know if I, I would say they want to keep her down. I think they would want to say, like, just be who you are. This doesn't necessarily feel authentic to Susan,
- [50:29]
A
but I think those of us who know and trust Susan, like, you know, she wouldn't do something inauthentic. So if this is who. What she's doing, this is what she's feeling.
- [50:38]
B
She's literally the British Mason Ramsay, don't you find?
- [50:41]
A
Yeah, I check her Instagram. I. She has not posted today. Like the era starts today. But she.
- [50:48]
B
How do you know that?
- [50:49]
A
Because yesterday she posted new era starts tomorrow. Tomorrow. Oh, okay.
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B
I don't know if she said.
- [50:52]
A
And then as of, you know, well,
- [50:54]
B
she's in the uk. What time Is it?
- [50:55]
A
It's further along. Where's the new era?
- [51:00]
B
Oh, no. That's got me worried. Maybe she said. This isn't maybe me. She had, like, a. A crisis of conscience the night before the 11th hour.
- [51:06]
A
Yeah, well, I'm looking forward.
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B
I love TPD, by the way.
- [51:10]
A
TPN.
- [51:11]
B
Whatever.
- [51:12]
A
Yeah, I love TPN.
- [51:13]
B
What else would fall under Passion News? I guess anything having to do with Bell Burden.
- [51:18]
A
No, but actually, that is pretty, like, mainstream. Of course people are talking about it. Anything to do with, like, Charlie Puth and Michaela Narrow. I disagree.
- [51:25]
B
That was worldwide news.
- [51:26]
A
What did. What was the fifth story yesterday? Neil McDonald. The guy from Neil.
- [51:30]
B
Desperate Housewives definitely falls into TP.
- [51:33]
A
Yeah. So, like, I think it's new segment alert. New segment alert on days when there's, like. If there were a more compelling fifth story, I would.
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B
Compelling than Susan Boyle's New era?
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A
Personally, I have no answer for that.
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B
Good.
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A
Those are the past.
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B
You're gonna cut your hair, like, in solidarity.
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A
You know what I was just thinking this morning? Not because of Susan. Sure. I was feeling like I need to cut my hair because I don't have, like, really the time or energy to really, like, style my hair right now and do it.
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B
But.
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A
No, not. Not right now, but, like, maybe in a few months. But I think in a few months, I'll have the time and energy to sty my hair. But, like, right now, I like Bob.
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B
Who remembers Jackie O. Bob era, Bobby O. That was the best.
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A
No, And I'm going to do a Bob again one day.
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B
That day is today. I.
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A
No, it's not today. But I was just, like, thinking, like, what am I gonna do about my hair? Like, what am I gonna do about it?
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B
Sort of like this existential crisis where, like, you know, you, like, realize you can make dinner every night for, like, the rest of your life. Yeah, like, I have to give to have hair.
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A
No, and forever. It's just like an extra.
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B
You take your power back and, you know, buzz your head. Should we do Jackie's Buzz era? Like, Susan has her BOB era? No, but I don't have a problem with my hair. Like, my hair is fine.
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A
Well, I was just thinking about it. I think, you know, in a few months, I'll be able to, like, dedicate more time. Plus, it's, like, falling out, so I'm just, like, not, like, feeling it right now. Like, even if I had someone come and do my hair, like, that takes time.
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B
What about a pixie cut?
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A
I don't feel like you're being Constructive.
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B
I know. I'm just throwing things out there.
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A
Like, what are you not throwing Real, real out there?
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B
Okay, Mohawk. Let me think, let me think.
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A
It was just. It was just a thought I was having. So it's funny that you mentioned.
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B
Like, what about like, pigtails? Like braids?
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A
Please stop.
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B
No.
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A
Okay, please stop. Now this.
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B
I'm just trying to. I'm trying to get creative. Like, how do people wear their hair besides down and up? You know? Like, that's what I'm thinking.
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A
How do people wear their hair besides down and up?
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B
Pigtails.
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A
Down is not working for me right now. And like, up's not really working either.
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B
Okay, sorry. I was trying to be creative. Half up, half down.
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A
I literally told you this week, I don't like pigtails. Even Kelsey couldn't pull them off.
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B
Oh, okay, half up, half down. Okay, what about like one solid braid? Like a.
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A
And the show. End the show?
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B
Like a French braid down the back? Please end the question, please.
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A
Like, how we would wear our hair in camp when we were playing the man in the play. Because it was an all girls camp, so if you were playing a boy, you wore one friend.
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B
You're just kind of insufferable. Like, I'm trying to help. I've thrown out a lot of options. I'm sorry you don't like any of them. Because what you're looking for doesn't exist.
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A
No, you're not being solution. You're not. You're not offering solutions in earnest.
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B
Okay. What are other ways to wear your hair?
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A
What? Like. Yeah, what are other ways to wear your hair?
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B
A wig.
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A
It's not. We're not there.
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B
You're not there yet. Okay. Okay. What about like a. Like a clip in bang?
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A
Okay. Thank you so much for listening to the toes, the millennial morning greatest show
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B
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A
Love ya.
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B
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