Trout and BSC Host The Toast: Friday, November 7th, 2025

Summary

The Toast – Trout and BSC Host The Toast: Friday, November 7, 2025

Host: Dear Media
Guests/Hosts for Today: Olivia & Ben (in lieu of Jackie & Claudia Oshry)
Date: November 7, 2025

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Episode Overview

On this special installment of The Toast, regular hosts Jackie and Claudia Oshry step out for the first time ever, handing the reins to Olivia and Ben (aka “Trout” and BSC). Broadcasting live from sunny Florida, Olivia and Ben bring their unique chemistry, banter, and food-obsessed energy for a lively episode that feels like a cozy, hilarious family brunch. Expect sharp critiques of meals, deep-dives into viral news, hot takes on everything from holiday food innovation to wild parenting choices, and the famously humble “Queenie & Weenie” segment to cap things off.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. A Historic Hosting Moment

• [00:30–02:00] Both Jackie & Claudia are out, a first for The Toast. Olivia and Ben, excited by the opportunity, discuss the significance with a mix of awe and humor.
  • “Is this the first time they've ever not done the toast?” — Olivia, [01:41]
  • “Totally rare, rare occasion. I'm just gonna hawk everything I have.” — Ben, [01:55]

2. Recounting a Memorable Family Dinner

• [02:14–04:50] The pair reminisce about Jackie's recent birthday celebration and the catered meal, quickly segueing into a spirited food critique.
  • Debated whether the chicken was dry, proper use of sauces, and the need for feedback in home cooking.
  • “No, I would have cooked the meal. Happily, I would have cooked. I'm not gonna lie, Olivia. I would have cooked the meal better.” — Ben, [02:33]
  • “...if you eat the chicken with the mashed potatoes and put a little dressing from the sal, take a bite all together, then you don't have, like, just a piece of dry chicken.” — Olivia, [03:51]
• Ben and Olivia are pro-feedback cooks, happy to give and receive constructive criticism.

3. Food Talk, Condiment Wars, and the Lazy Susan

• [04:50–07:14] Ben and Olivia get hilariously granular about food—critiquing schnitzel thickness and swooning over vegetable sides. They also debate the proper use of dips, and Ben shares his DIY burger sauce recipe.
  • “This man took vegetables and made them fattening. And let me tell you, there's nothing I love more than a fattening vegetable.” — Ben, [05:23]
  • “No hummus, no Tina, no nothing.” — Ben, on lack of sauces, [06:48]
  • Ben’s “world famous burger sauce”: mayonnaise, yellow mustard, ketchup, sriracha, sesame oil [07:38]
• Banter about Jackie's outrageously large lazy Susan table accessory.

4. Screen Time Confessions

• [09:17–11:13] On the topic of phone addiction, Olivia and Ben compare shockingly high screen times (7-9+ hours/day), discussing how phone use and TV overlap have become routine.

5. Travel Mishaps & ‘Karen’ Instincts

• [11:34–13:25] Ben shares a story involving a bottle of salad dressing falling onto his neck during a flight and the subsequent family debates on writing complaint letters (“You and my mom love a letter.” — Ben, [11:22])

6. Physical Ailments and On-Air Dynamics

• [13:27–14:14] Olivia and Ben discuss their preferred camera angles and physical quirks (“I only can look left...and I really can only look right.” — Ben & Olivia, [13:57])

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FAST FIVE STORIES

1. Kraft Releases Apple Pie Flavored Mac & Cheese

[19:46–24:52]

• Kraft’s new Thanksgiving-themed macaroni & cheese is apple pie flavored, available exclusively at Walmart.
  • “That is one of the most revolting things I’ve ever heard in my whole life.” — Ben, [20:15]
  • Discussion of marketing gimmicks, viral stunts, and the power of food collabs.
  • Marketing insight: Gimmicky food launches (with “American Pie” actor Jason Biggs in a spot) generate buzz, whether or not the product is actually good.
  • Both hosts fantasize about superior Thanksgiving mac and cheese collaborations and agree that savory elements would be more appealing.

2. Charles Barkley Goes Commando

[26:54–36:14]

• Charles Barkley admits to burning all his underwear 30 years ago and always going commando (revealed by Peyton Manning on the “Manningcast”).
  • “You can’t be a fat man and not wear underwear...at least once a year, you are going to let some shit out.” — Ben, [29:34]
  • Extends into stories about awkward wardrobe malfunctions and a family tale of being breastfed until age eight (“My grandfather was breastfed till he was 8. He lived to 93.” — Ben, [31:19])
• Friends, shame, and body comfort, plus a side-quest into family names and tradition.

3. The Louvre: Password “Louvre”

[42:34–47:41]

• Shocking security failure at The Louvre: the surveillance password was literally “Louvre.” Thieves managed to steal $100 million in jewels in minutes.
  • “You’re lying. You’re lying.” — Ben, on hearing the password story, [42:46]
  • Discussion about inside jobs, art theft, and why you should never steal art (too traceable), but jewelry is another matter.
  • Olivia suggests a documentary about found stolen art, tying it back to their earlier morality/tech debate.

4. Nara & Lucky Blue Smith’s Family Skims Campaign

[51:14–58:21]

• Nara and Lucky Blue Smith (model/influencer couple) and their children star in the SKIMS holiday campaign.
  • The couple’s kids’ unique names are a big point of fascination: “Rumble Honey,” “Whimsy Lou,” “Slim Easy,” and “Fonny Golden.”
  • “You’re telling me he can apply for a job with the name Slim Easy?” — Ben, [53:30]
  • Deliberation over unique names, family culture, and the impulse to “name for meaning”—plus an aside about Ben narrowly escaping being named “Blue.”

5. Viral Push Present: 11 Pounds of French Butter

[60:05–64:45]

• A man gifts his wife 11 pounds of premium French butter as her push present, since she's obsessed with butter and bakes sourdough.
  • “What do you do with 11 pounds of butter? Do you freeze it?” — Ben, [61:14]
  • Ben and Olivia discuss making homemade butter, keeping sourdough starters alive, and their “deep cut” food routines (Olivia: “Your sourdough journey is seriously going to be unique to you and the environment in which you live.” [64:45])

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “This man took vegetables and made them fattening. And let me tell you, there’s nothing I love more than a fattening vegetable.” — Ben, [05:23]
• “My moist turkey. I know that some people take issue with the word moist, but I don’t know how else you would describe a moist turkey.” — Ben, [26:16]
• “The Louvre surveillance system password was reportedly ‘Louvre’.” — Olivia, [42:34]
• “You can’t run out of anything. You have leftovers, no problem. Put them in [the fridge].” — Ben, [68:55]

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Other Engaging Segments

Cooking Philosophies & Family Rituals

• The importance of feedback in food, cooking for family, and making dinner soulful and special. Both preach generous portions, variety, attention to detail, and “elevating the basics.” [65:48–67:49]

Tech & AI Fears, Scam Stories

• Conversation on phone scams, elder vulnerability, and the paradox of advanced-yet-archaic technology (“Why do I have to go to the DMV ever?” — Ben, [41:48])

Queenie & Weenie of the Week

[69:20–72:12]

• Queenie: Jackie & Claudia for their work, community, and as “unbelievable moms.”
• Weenie: Ben chooses the Tesla (for confusing tech design), Olivia chooses the “dumb aspects of society,” like the Louvre’s password scandal.

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Timestamps for Key Segments

| Timestamp | Topic/Highlight | |--------------|-------------------------------------------------------------| | 00:30–02:00 | Intro & historic hosting switch | | 02:14–04:50 | Memorable dinner, food critique | | 04:50–07:14 | Food talk, dips, and giant Lazy Susans | | 09:17–11:13 | Screen time confessions | | 11:34–13:25 | Flying mishaps, family ‘Karen’ energy | | 19:46–24:52 | Kraft Apple Pie Mac & Cheese | | 26:54–36:14 | Charles Barkley goes commando, family stories | | 42:34–47:41 | Louvre heist, easy passwords, art heist banter | | 51:14–58:21 | Nara & Lucky Blue Smith SKIMS campaign, baby name debate | | 60:05–64:45 | Viral French butter push present, sourdough deep-diving | | 65:48–67:49 | Culinary philosophies, dinner routines | | 69:20–72:12 | Queenie & Weenie of the week |

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Closing Notes

• Tone: Playfully combative, frank, self-deprecating, and food-obsessed, with candid asides and friendly bickering.
• Best for: Fans who crave the vibe of a family kitchen, detailed food chat, and tangential storytelling with a side of pop culture.

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Listen to The Toast

Available weekdays. Jackie & Claudia return next episode—unless, as today proved, Olivia & Ben are needed to keep things deliciously real.

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“Have a great day. Love ya.” — Ben, [73:07]

Transcript

[Jackie]

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[Olivia]

It's Jackson Claude, and we're your host.

[Jackie]

It's your biggest, favorite show. The Fast 5 things you need to know. We'll start your day off Swirly.

[Olivia]

It's the Toast.

[Jackie]

I sound amazing.

[Ben]

Good morning, Millennials, and welcome back to the Toast. It's Friday. That feels like a Tuesday. That feels like a Wednesday, and we are here in studio. My name is Claudia.

[Olivia]

By the way. We didn't practice our Good morning, Millennials, but I thought we did a pretty good job.

[Ben]

Good morning, Millennials.

[Olivia]

Like, I held the good, like, one second longer than you.

[Ben]

You just held the good.

[Olivia]

A Good morning, Millennials.

[Ben]

That was beautiful, Liv.

[Olivia]

Thank you. By the way, I heard your wicked run the other day.

[Ben]

You liked that? My.

[Olivia]

I don't know if I liked it.

[Ben]

What's it called?

[Olivia]

A run.

[Ben]

A run.

[Olivia]

Yeah.

[Ben]

Yeah. Which is, like.

[Olivia]

It wasn't really about the noises that came out of your mouth, more about, like, the eyes bulging out of your head.

[Ben]

The fact that that's a term like a run. Like, no, the runs are, like, when you have, like, way too much cheese and you have to stop on the side of the road.

[Olivia]

That's what it means for you.

[Ben]

That's a moonstruck moment. That's a. A moonstruck moment.

[Olivia]

Well, we are so happy to be here today in lieu of our girlies, Jackson, Claude.

[Ben]

And for people who are listening and they're like, what the hell is going on here? Neither Jackie nor Claudia are here.

[Olivia]

Is this the first time they've ever not done the toast?

[Jackie]

Yeah.

[Ben]

Yeah. I was thinking that it's the first time that both of them have not done the toast, which makes sense because.

[Olivia]

It'S their show, but also, that's actually amazing for them, like.

[Ben]

No, it is. It is. Absolutely.

[Olivia]

Must be, like, episode, like, 500, you.

[Ben]

Know, this is a very, very special day. No, totally rare, rare occasion. I'm just gonna hawk everything I have.

[Olivia]

Oh, my God. I can't wait to see what you're gonna bring, Spritz.

[Ben]

Good. Guys, we're just gonna load up.

[Olivia]

It's already all here.

[Ben]

We're gonna load it up. No, but this is gonna be a wonderful, special episode. Live from Florida. It's so gorgeous out.

[Olivia]

So gorgeous.

[Ben]

So beautiful. Last time we celebrated Jackie's birthday, it.

[Olivia]

Was so beautiful, right? Yeah. It was such a nice night.

[Ben]

Like, really the best night.

[Olivia]

I would love to. And by the way, I think people actually thought that either you or I cooked the meal.

[Ben]

Well, no, for whatever reason, I wasn't asked to cook the meal.

[Olivia]

No, because you wanted to be, like, an enjoyable participant.

[Ben]

No, no, I would have cooked the meal. Happily, I would have cooked. I'm not gonna lie, Olivia. I would have cooked the meal better.

[Olivia]

Oh, okay, don't.

[Ben]

I really feel I would have cooked the meal better. But tell people about the meal. No.

[Olivia]

We had such a beautiful night. We, like, had a chef come to the house. We had a beautiful family dinner. It was so delicious, so divine. So just, like, it was such a Hamish night, you know? It was a beautiful night, and it was just, like, so, like, sweet and delicious, and it was so wonderful to together. And, like, honestly, I just do feel, like, a little bit, like, on a cloud today because I'm like, what a lovely night we had last night.

[Ben]

You know, last night was beautiful and, like, the kids were just, like, running around.

[Olivia]

The kids were having the best time.

[Ben]

And they have, like, all of their horses, and they're just like, horse. Like fake horses, not real horses. They're like, yeah, but they're, like, running around the house. And it was just, like, super sweet and so sweet.

[Olivia]

It was beautiful.

[Ben]

And the meal was beautiful.

[Olivia]

Beautiful.

[Ben]

But, Olivia, what didn't you like? I thought the chicken was dry.

[Olivia]

Oh, my God.

[Ben]

How dry was that chicken?

[Olivia]

I thought the chicken was good.

[Ben]

Olivia, as somebody who makes a really moist chicken and a moist turkey, well, it's because you can identify a dry chicken from a moist chicken.

[Olivia]

It's because it just wasn't, like, with the sauce and the veggies that normally, like, we all usually cook it all together. It was sort of, like, standalone.

[Ben]

I think it's important not to lie. I think it's very important. I think it's very important to talk about when food is delicious. Okay.

[Olivia]

I thought it was a delicious meal. I did. I actually really liked the chicken. But, like, if you eat the chicken with the mashed potatoes and put a little dressing from the sal, take a bite all together, then you don't have, like, just a piece of dry chicken.

[Ben]

Totally. But it was dry chicken. You agree? Good. Okay. What about the fish?

[Olivia]

I actually didn't have the fish.

[Ben]

Okay. It was a little bit fishy.

[Olivia]

I Heard that you said that, and. But by the way, that was up for debate, so.

[Ben]

No, it wasn't up for debate. It was up, but now let's discuss the things that were amazing. Okay.

[Olivia]

The mashed potatoes were so unbelievably good. I'm literally still dreaming about them. I want somebody to bring them over to my house tonight so I don't have to make a side.

[Ben]

These were like, Hillstone left.

[Olivia]

And now, by the way, are you gonna come. Are you gonna come on the toaster on Good guys, Monday morning and critique my meal tonight?

[Ben]

No. I would never tell you your meal's gonna be delicious no matter what.

[Olivia]

You would never tell me. Why wouldn't you?

[Ben]

Because you worked so hard.

[Olivia]

No, but I like the feedback. I like to know, like, what people liked and didn't like. Does it have too much salt? Does it have too much pepper?

[Ben]

Normally. I normally love all of your food. I really.

[Olivia]

I love your food, too.

[Ben]

I really do.

[Olivia]

Yeah. But I do. I would like for you to give me feedback where you could say, this isn't my favorite.

[Ben]

Okay, fine.

[Olivia]

Yeah. I can very much accept that. I feel like that's what makes us better cooked.

[Ben]

I'll give you one single critique right now.

[Olivia]

Let's hear it.

[Ben]

I think that sometimes when you make schnitzel, your chicken's too thin.

[Olivia]

I think I would agree with that. It's because I'm baking in the oven and I'm not frying it so it doesn't get the juice from the oil. I do hear that.

[Ben]

So perhaps make it a little bit thicker.

[Olivia]

Yeah. Sometimes I buy it pre cut that way already, you know?

[Ben]

Yeah. No. Oh, you buy the thinnies?

[Olivia]

Buy the thinnies, yeah.

[Ben]

It's their problem. They're making it too thin.

[Olivia]

By the way, that's an incredibly fair piece of feedback. I understand. It's not the way that you cook.

[Ben]

It, it's the way that you're buying it.

[Olivia]

Yeah, I hear that. I hear that.

[Ben]

I buy a thicker piece. Okay. The carrots. Divine.

[Olivia]

Divine all of this. The pita.

[Ben]

This man.

[Olivia]

Olivia, the pita was so great.

[Ben]

This man took vegetables and made them fattening. And let me tell you, there's nothing I love more than a fattening vegetable.

[Olivia]

I mean, totally, Mr. Mayo.

[Ben]

Just so good. Drenched in honey, sugar.

[Olivia]

I thought the meal was so unbelievable. I loved it.

[Ben]

And Jackie has. I've never noticed this. She has the world's. I think this is in the Guinness Book of World Records. The world's largest lazy Susan.

[Olivia]

Yeah, she does.

[Ben]

It it is 6ft.

[Olivia]

It's a really big tall by 6ft.

[Ben]

It is. The table's enormous. But did you know that they made lazy Susans that big?

[Olivia]

I mean, I would imagine that they do in order to, like, fit different sized tables.

[Ben]

I've never seen a lazy Susan that big.

[Olivia]

I mean, how many lazy Susans do you see?

[Ben]

I see smaller lazy Susans. I see a ton.

[Olivia]

Who is a lazy Susan that you don't?

[Ben]

I have a small lazy Susan.

[Olivia]

Oh, you do?

[Ben]

It's small? Yes. It's like.

[Olivia]

It's really cute.

[Ben]

It's like this big. I don't really.

[Olivia]

It's like a plate that's.

[Ben]

It's basically a plate that spins. You're so right. It's maybe not a lazy Susan. It's just a plate.

[Olivia]

No, Susan is, like, part of her table. Do you know what I mean? I feel like it's costing her table huge.

[Ben]

It's huge. Her table's huge, too. It fits, like, 6, 16.

[Olivia]

100%.

[Ben]

The round table. The fit 16.

[Olivia]

Yeah.

[Ben]

Gorgeous.

[Olivia]

Gorgeous. No. Such a great night.

[Ben]

It was. It was a beautiful meal.

[Olivia]

Totally. No, I'm so happy you guys are here. It's been so great. I love it.

[Ben]

Can I do one more critique of the. The food? Last critique. Final critique. Final critique. Warm pita. What are you supposed to dip it in, Olivia?

[Olivia]

Okay. But by the way, what was the pita for? Oh, like, I was putting, like, the chicken with the, like, cucumber and tomato. Like, I was making a pudding.

[Ben]

You were making a pita, and then what were you putting on top of it?

[Olivia]

I don't need sauce.

[Ben]

No hummus, no Tina, no nothing.

[Olivia]

I don't need sauce and dips like you. But I do. I did hear that critique about you tonight, and I just want you to know I'm going from here to the store, and I will have 17,000 dips on my table.

[Ben]

No, I just need a single dip. I need something to moisten the dry chicken.

[Olivia]

But you're always bringing a million condiments from the fridge. Get your ass off.

[Ben]

I feel bad doing that. That's actually. Look, I feel bad doing that when somebody has catered a meal for me. I feel bad asking for ketchup. It's not that nice.

[Olivia]

But. No, I think that that's silly because I think people like to eat food a certain way. Like you. And you love. With, like, your mayo and making your crazy, like, honey mustards and your disgusting disgustingness. If you want feedback, that's right. Feedback to you.

[Ben]

I do.

[Olivia]

And by the way. And you have no problem coming to my house and taking every fucking condiment out of the fridge.

[Ben]

I do.

[Olivia]

And concocting.

[Ben]

I do.

[Olivia]

You should have just done that.

[Ben]

I do the worst.

[Olivia]

By the way, hummus was not requested on the menu, so that's not the chef's fault.

[Ben]

You're so right. You're absolutely right. In case anybody's looking for a great quick sauce, Olivia's talking about my world famous burger sauce. Okay. We're looking at mayonnaise, yellow mustard, ketchup, a drop of sriracha, and just a small hit of sesame oil.

[Olivia]

Olivia, this is sesame oil. I thought that that was. You were.

[Ben]

Brings out that Asian flavor, that sort.

[Olivia]

Of, like, Big Mac sauce vibe with, like, pretty similar gherkins. Like, you love a gherkin.

[Ben]

Sure. Yeah, I love a gherkin. Love a gherkin.

[Olivia]

With a little, like, pickle juice, you know?

[Ben]

Yeah. But I stopped chopping up pickles and putting them in sauces. I feel it's unnecessary. The juice, lovely. But I just feel like I don't need that. The chopped pickles in it thick enough? Yeah. No, I'll put the pickles on. Did you see Joey Kamastas? Speaking of pickles, did you see he just tried a sandwich in France?

[Olivia]

I just want you to know that I just saw that before I walked in here and I was like, oh, my God. Like, I. Watching him take that bite. First of all, you know that I die for Joey. Like, I literally will throw myself in front of a bus for him. I'm obsessed with.

[Ben]

I actually, he is just. He's living in the wrong age. Joey 30 years ago would have been discovered.

[Olivia]

We know him now.

[Ben]

I know, but he needs to be discovered.

[Olivia]

We need him now. We need him.

[Ben]

He needs to be discovered. I know.

[Olivia]

No, also, the thing I love about Joey is just that, like, everything he does is, like, so over the top. Like, unbelievable. Did you see the video that he did? It was like, BTS in his kitchen, like, talking about what he was making, and he was just filming the same thing over and over with, like, six people standing in his kitchen.

[Ben]

Yes. No, he's. He's so hysterical.

[Olivia]

He's so hysterical.

[Ben]

But he. Watch his most recent video. If you guys didn't see it, he's in. In Paris. He's in Paris. And he went to get a ham and cheese baguette.

[Olivia]

Yep.

[Ben]

With beautiful cornichons, some mustard, and my God, this looks like the best fucking sandwich I've ever seen in my life. Ever.

[Olivia]

Ever, by the way. And I Was actually thinking, because one of our stories, like, has a Paris tie in. And while he was taking that bite, I was literally thinking to myself, like, we are definitely going to be talking about Paris today. On the toast.

[Ben]

Yes.

[Olivia]

So it's so funn. You brought that up. Because I thought that, like, I would be bringing that up.

[Ben]

It just means that we're both so insane on our phones. A little bit too much and we don't miss a beat. And actually, my. What's your screen time?

[Olivia]

Oh, I don't know. I don't look like I think we should look.

[Ben]

I want to know what your screen time is. My screen time? Okay, let's see. How do I find screen time? One thing about me, I don't know. If you just search screen time, my screen time is.

[Olivia]

I'll let you go first.

[Ben]

Oof. That can't be true.

[Olivia]

What is it?

[Ben]

I don't know. That can't be true.

[Olivia]

That can't be true. I don't know.

[Ben]

Last week it says that my screen time was nine hours a day.

[Olivia]

Okay. Mine was seven hours and 47 minutes.

[Ben]

That sounds good, but I thought mine used to be.

[Olivia]

And I just want everybody to know that, like, at night, like, I watch so much TV and scroll on my phone for hours. Like, I stay up late. So the fact that, like, my screen time, I thought I was expecting it to be like 10 hours.

[Ben]

I have to put this thing away.

[Olivia]

Yeah, you should do a kidlock on it. Like, you know how people like you get one hour a day on Instagram, you know?

[Ben]

Yeah. Nine out.

[Olivia]

But like, where are you spending your time? Go back to that.

[Ben]

Because I'm not on Instagram that often.

[Olivia]

So you say.

[Ben]

Good question. Where am I?

[Olivia]

See all app and website activity is that show categories? Yeah. Instagram is my most used.

[Ben]

Embarrassing. Social, productivity and finance.

[Olivia]

No, you're in a different place than I am. You got to go to see all app and website activity. Where Grandpa. Right underneath the bar chart. Wow. You're nine hours. Nine and a half hours.

[Ben]

It's just last week.

[Olivia]

Just last week.

[Ben]

I don't know what that was.

[Olivia]

What were you doing last week?

[Ben]

I don't know.

[Olivia]

Yeah. And then when you do most.

[Ben]

Most uses Instagram.

[Olivia]

Yeah.

[Ben]

Instagram messages zoom. Oh, I take zooms from my phone. That's not fair.

[Olivia]

That I honestly. That's not fair.

[Ben]

I have three hours of zooms a day. Okay, that's not fair.

[Olivia]

But while you're on the zoom, you're also scrolling on your phone because you're.

[Ben]

On your phone now. I'm active on zoom. Otherwise, why am I taking a zoom?

[Olivia]

Why are you taking a zoom from your phone?

[Ben]

Because my computer sometimes isn't on. Focused, Fully charged also.

[Olivia]

Totally. I mean, you're always dead.

[Ben]

Also, the. The WI fi in the clubhouse was. Was down, Liv.

[Olivia]

Was it down? Who should I take it up with?

[Ben]

I don't know. If somebody's gonna take it up with somebody, it's gonna be you.

[Olivia]

It's gonna be me.

[Ben]

You're gonna write a letter. You and my mom love a letter.

[Olivia]

You know what? I. I don't love a letter, actually. I love to just, like, storm the Bastille. Like, I show up and I'm like, hello. Did you know?

[Ben]

Got it. You know, my mom loves a letter. I complained to her about, well, you.

[Olivia]

Know, chatgpt could write you a gorgeous letter these days. So, honestly, that's like, a great idea.

[Ben]

That's a lawyer. A full blown lawyer. You can literally write, like, write this in legalese and they will do it. But I told. I actually haven't told this story. I will tell it.

[Olivia]

Let's hear it.

[Ben]

Tell it on the toes. On our way to Florida, I took my seat, and all of a sudden, we're about to take off, and I feel like I was shot in the neck. Literally shot in the neck. I'm like, what the fuck was that? A huge bottle of Newman's own salad dressing dropped out from the overhead bin and hit me right in the neck. Like, hit me straight. It could only happen straight in the neck. And I look the woman to my left. She's like, oh, my God, I'm so sorry.

[Olivia]

Are you?

[Ben]

I couldn't bring Claudia. Couldn't bring her San Pellegrino. She couldn't bring her Pellegrino. But she has a 16 ounce bottle of salad dressing.

[Olivia]

Yeah.

[Ben]

How could she sneak it through tsa? Also, how cheap are you? How cheap are you? Why Publix. Go to Publix and get your dressing. Stop weaponizing your dressing on a plane. She tried to kill me, this woman. But. So the reason I brought that up is my mom. I told my mom this story. She's like, ben, you absolutely need to write a letter to the airline. They're gonna give you a free flight. I'm like, mom, I'm not writing a letter. It's over. It's not happening. Why would I want this to happen?

[Olivia]

The thing is, I love. I love Ava's, like, desire for justice for you. And that is why she's just like an A plus human being. However, why would the airline give you a flight for something that, like, a random passenger did?

[Ben]

Because my mom said that they could get in a lot of trouble for allowing the 16 ounces of liquid through, and they can only have three.

[Olivia]

Right.

[Ben]

I think that said it's hearsay, Liv.

[Olivia]

Right.

[Ben]

But you didn't have a big red mark on me. I did have a bruise.

[Olivia]

I did.

[Ben]

I did have a bruise. Yeah. It's gone. Thank God. I thought I was gonna have to go to, like, Dr. Dubrow or something, like, get some plastic surgery, but no, it's gone. It went away really quickly, but really, I was worried that I wouldn't have a functioning right turn, but I prevailed.

[Olivia]

You just don't have a functioning left turn.

[Ben]

I prevailed.

[Olivia]

Ben and I, you know, we are, like, so devastated that Claudia's not here today, but it was supposed to be Claudia and me doing the toast, so. But Claudia and I have the same side. So I was like, last night, as I was thinking, I'm like, wow. Like, I really don't want to be sitting there. Like, my body doesn't turn that way, you know? And then when we sat down today, you said, you know, you have actually the same ailments.

[Ben]

I think we're both like Zoolander. It's just actually, now that I'm. Yeah. No, I have the same exact thing as you. Oh, no.

[Olivia]

Uncomfortable like that.

[Ben]

I don't like looking right. No, this is perfect.

[Olivia]

Oh, you're happy. You're good.

[Ben]

I only can look left. Wow.

[Olivia]

And I really can only look right.

[Ben]

I can't look right. Even though I'm looking right, I can't look right. I can't look right. No, you can.

[Olivia]

It's just, like, it's not comfortable.

[Ben]

It's very uncomfortable.

[Olivia]

It's uncomfortable for me to sit like this. I don't know. There's just something about it. I just feel like. Like I don't like it.

[Ben]

It's very uncomfortable.

[Olivia]

So, anyways, this is great for me.

[Ben]

This is great. This is great. Should we get into the fast five stories that people need to know before they take a bite out of their morning crunch toast?

[Olivia]

You just wanted to do that so badly.

[Ben]

What are our stories? Do we have anything good?

[Olivia]

We have. Are so good. Really so good. I literally can't wait to tell you all about them.

[Jackie]

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[Olivia]

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[Olivia]

Okay, first story. This one I feel like you'll have a lot of perspectives on. Kraft releases Apple Pie Flavored Mac and Cheese meant for Thanksgiving. Oh my God. I was like, is he burping? Like, what the fudge is he doing? It's a Walmart exclusive and it has cinnamon, brown sugar and molasses to the bright orange cheesy sauce. Wow, that is some fucking sub headline. Kraft has a new savory sweet side for your Thanksgiving spread. Probably will not be at our Thanksgiving spread, but we'll talk about that.

[Ben]

That's one of the most revolting things I've ever heard in my whole life.

[Olivia]

Well, the macaroni and cheese brand revealed its limited time apple pie flavor on November 3rd. It's a Walmart exclusive and it adds cinnamon, brown sugar, molasses, et cetera. They took. It's very interesting. The article literally repurposed the first paragraph as the sub headline. Is that like journalistic integrity? Like, get creative here. Kraft's brand new flavors were motivated by merging the two popular Turkey day dishes, Macaroni and cheese and apple pie. Even though they should be eaten separately and not together, just like other Kraft Mac and Cheese iterations. Fans just have to Cook the noodles in boiling water, drain, add butter and milk before pouring in the cheese mixture and mixing. And the box pasta is sold exclusively at Walmart for $1.50.

[Ben]

Yeah, because it's marketing. It's disgusting. Okay. This is disgusting. They literally did this.

[Olivia]

It does sound disgusting. But do you think if you tried it, you would be like, wow, it's not that bad?

[Ben]

No, I think I would say that it's disgusting. And what really bothers me, and I love Kraft. I mean, we did our. We did our claws and pickle collab with Kraft. They're all in on the collab.

[Olivia]

They're so good at collabs.

[Ben]

So good at collabs. But I think somebody in marketing has realized that if it's a big crazy idea, we're gonna talk about it. Like, we're literally talking about it now.

[Olivia]

Well, they've done a lot of collab.

[Ben]

Cause it sounds disgusting. You know what I mean? Like, if they made something with it.

[Olivia]

I'm talking about it. Because it sounds disgusting.

[Ben]

Yes.

[Olivia]

Oh, okay. Well, because here's another thing I want to add to the marketing point, which is, and we are marketers, so like, we could have a marketing discussion.

[Ben]

We can, we can.

[Olivia]

But Kraft tapped apple pie expert Jason Biggs for the surprising flavor as the apple pie alum starred in a 15 second spot about the Kraft's new flavor.

[Ben]

What do you mean, apple pie? Jason Biggs, he's an actor. I've never heard that he has any.

[Olivia]

He was in American Pie.

[Ben]

Right, Great.

[Olivia]

But he.

[Ben]

That doesn't make him an apple pie connoisseur.

[Olivia]

Well, the journalistic integrity of this article, I won't share where it's from is obviously part of the problem in perpetuating this lie about Jason Biggs.

[Ben]

I don't even. I don't even understand. This makes it even worse. This makes the whole thing even worse. That said, I'm trying to think of.

[Olivia]

Like, what's definitely very gimmicky, but they have done a. Kraft has done a lot of collabs recently that like, they did DJ Mustard and the Mustard. Like, they. Some of them, I think hit. I think, others, maybe not so much.

[Ben]

It's the cheapest form of viral marketing. That's what it is.

[Olivia]

But maybe, maybe it's really been working for them.

[Ben]

No, no, it has. That's what I'm saying. But like, we're. Our culture rewards these gimmicky products because we're so excited to take a picture of them and try them. And then all of a sudden Kraft sees Oh, they're gonna talk about it on the toast for free? Yeah, they're gonna talk about it on the toast for free. Because it's viral and gimmicky.

[Olivia]

Well, I would like to say something. I think that they should send it to us. I think we should try it.

[Ben]

Sure.

[Olivia]

I think we should give it a fair shot.

[Ben]

Great. And then we're. Give them more free media. Like, this is what they want.

[Olivia]

Yeah, totally. No, I'm happy for them. It's a good idea for that regard.

[Ben]

It's a great idea. What do you think would have been a good Thanksgiving inspired Mac and cheese blend?

[Olivia]

Like, if you were something more savory?

[Ben]

Like, if you were tasked with making a great sounding Mac and cheese collab with Kraft, what would you have done.

[Olivia]

Similar to what you made the other day? Like a butternut squash or, like, something. Maybe add a vegetable and, like, partner with local farmers. Like, I don't know, like, do something that's, like, give back to the community and, like, good for kids and. Do you know what I mean? Like, apple pie is, like, for the end of the meal, and Mac and cheese is for the middle of the meal. And I just don't think those two things should be brought together. I do think that a lot of people do, like, like, sort of a savory, sweet vibe during the meal. I'm like. I'm like, if I'm eating savory, like, I want savory all together, and then, like, sweets at the end, you know.

[Ben]

I can do savory and sweet. Like, I really like schnitzel with Mike's hot honey. Like, that vibe.

[Olivia]

Or like, the mashed potato. Not mashed potatoes. Sweet potatoes with the marshmallows on top. That's, like, so Jewish, you know?

[Ben]

Delicious. Fantastic. Or maybe a sweet kuggle.

[Olivia]

Right.

[Ben]

I can't think of the. The consistency of a Kraft Mac and Cheese where it's that, like, thick, you know, it's coming in a powder. That can't possibly be good.

[Olivia]

Well, that's why I was saying, like, if you added a vegetable or, like, a fruit powder and that powder didn't feel so radioactive.

[Ben]

Oof. I'm out. I mean, Claudia, I'm out on fruit and vegetable powder. I'm out. I can't do that. Better not. No, I can't.

[Olivia]

What? You could do the flaming orange powder.

[Ben]

No, I can't do any of it. It's just. I'm actually. I'm turned off. I'm done. I think I'm done with them.

[Olivia]

I think I'M gonna go to Walmart and get it for you.

[Ben]

Okay. It might taste good. Maybe. It tastes like nothing.

[Olivia]

It probably tastes like just like sweet kugel. Honestly, with the brown sugar and molasses, it probably doesn't taste like cheesy Mac and cheese.

[Ben]

Did they say it tastes like turkey?

[Olivia]

No. Why would they say Mac and cheese meets apple pie? How on earth would that taste like turkey?

[Ben]

Mac and cheese meets apple pie? It probably tastes like sweet cocoa. It's probably delicious. What an arc. What an arc.

[Olivia]

What an arc. A hundred percent. By the way, I am. Is Thanksgiving like your favorite day of the year?

[Ben]

That's interesting, Liv. Thanksgiving is solid.

[Olivia]

Yeah.

[Ben]

I think you make a really great turkey.

[Olivia]

I'm making the turkey this year. Do you know that I've already pre purchased my turkey? It's coming from a farm in New Jersey.

[Ben]

That is excellent work by you.

[Olivia]

Yeah, yeah. It's pasture raised, kosher. I like, went all out.

[Ben]

What I will say is that the problem with most Thanksgiving meals is that the host doesn't know how to make a great turkey.

[Olivia]

Interesting.

[Ben]

And you do. So for far too long, I have said I hate roast turkey. I do prefer smoked turkey. My dream Thanksgiving meal is literally two pounds of smoked turkey. Okay. Thinly sliced, by the way, I have a smoker.

[Olivia]

Should we get a turkey breast and smoke a breast?

[Ben]

That sounds very interesting. Smoked breast, but we should do it. I think you should just get a slicer. If we can have like thinly spicy.

[Olivia]

It's really about the cut. I actually think. I agree. The other thing that I've always wanted to do, which, like, I have zero plans to do this year, but to deep fry a turkey, like in the yard, you know?

[Ben]

Yeah. Harjoon does that.

[Olivia]

Does he?

[Ben]

My friend? Yeah. They put literally like a big ass turkey in a fryer and they do the whole thing.

[Olivia]

It's just.

[Ben]

I don't know, Liv.

[Olivia]

What? What don't you know?

[Ben]

I don't know. It's just. I guess you could hold in moisture that way. That's good.

[Olivia]

Yeah. And like crispy skin. Even though I'm not like super skin person.

[Ben]

But you really have perfected the turkey. I wouldn't touch your recipe.

[Olivia]

Yeah.

[Ben]

My moist turkey.

[Olivia]

Yeah.

[Ben]

I know that some people take issue with the word moist, but I don't know how else you would describe a moist turkey.

[Olivia]

No, that's worse.

[Ben]

Wet is worse, right? Is wet worse?

[Olivia]

No, moist and juicy.

[Ben]

Juicy. Juicy is probably the right word.

[Olivia]

Yeah. Juicy is also kind of a weird word.

[Ben]

They all can be weird if you have a sick, perverted mind.

[Olivia]

Really? The way your mouth says it. Jushi.

[Ben]

Yeah. You threw in the Jew there. You really went hard Jew in the juicy.

[Olivia]

It's not my fault. Those are the letters.

[Ben]

Interesting.

[Olivia]

We should just start spelling ju. J, U, I.

[Ben]

Okay. That's your jui.

[Olivia]

We're so French.

[Ben]

Like Joey. Like Joey. We got another story.

[Olivia]

Yeah, we got another story. Ready?

[Ben]

What are we doing?

[Olivia]

The second story is dun dun, dun dun. This one is so for you.

[Ben]

Tell me.

[Olivia]

When I saw it, I was like, we have to talk about this. Just because I. I'm not even gonna speak. I just want to hear what you have to say. Charles Barkley admits he burned all of his underwear about 30 years ago and is always going commando. I realized that underwear was not a necessity, the NBA legend admitted on Monday Night Football on Nov. 3. Wow. November 3rd was a big thing.

[Ben]

Monday Night Football. He does Monday Night Football now.

[Olivia]

Okay, well, we'll get into the details because it says that Charles Barkley hung up his jersey in 2000. But read another article of clothing years sooner. You guys like seriously, this publication needs just like chatgpt, right? No.

[Ben]

Who is it?

[Olivia]

People magazine.

[Ben]

Oh, all right, whatever.

[Olivia]

The basketball analyst and commentator. 62. Did you know he was 62?

[Ben]

No. He looks great for 62.

[Olivia]

He does sidestep football talk amid the Arizona Cardinals late 17 point lead over the Dallas Cowboys. So sad during Monday Night Football to answer a hard hitting question posed by Peyton Manning during the broadcast. Is it true you burned all of your underwear almost 20 years ago and haven't worn any since? Who told Peyton Manning to ask him that? We have so much to discuss. The two time super bowl winner asked the NBA hall of Famer on Manning cast opposite his brother eli Manning on November 3rd. Without hesitation, Barkley answered the football brothers directly. Even corrected them on their timeline, sharing context behind his decision and whether there was truth behind the lore. Yeah, I realized that underwear was not a necessity, replied the 11 time NBA All Star. It was a big fire too, Peyton. I'm always going commando. I burned all my underwear about 30 years ago and like I said, it was a big fire.

[Ben]

Oh my.

[Olivia]

Barkley added. So I'm always going to commando. I'm always going commando for the rest of my life. The longtime New York Giants star then surprised the retired NBA star with a very fitting present. Wow, it's like the biggest pair of undies. Oh my God. Chuck, I actually got you a gift to commemorate you being on our first ever Manning cast. Eli told Barkley. Wait, we have to put the picture of these ginormous undies with the Manning brothers faces on them.

[Ben]

Oh, my God.

[Olivia]

Oh, my God. We're gonna get the picture up here because. Holy fucking shit. He said, I was planning to mail it to you, but I'm sorry I didn't know the story about you wearing underwear before having made these. Oh, please. Totally did. Anyways. What the fuck?

[Ben]

Yeah. Okay, so there's so many things here. First of all, and this is no shade. I love Charles Barkley. He's hysterical. Okay? He only recently started doing those RO ads because he started to lose like a ton of weight from glps.

[Olivia]

Yeah.

[Ben]

He's been a large man and I can see that as like a morbidly obese man. Like 99% of my life.

[Olivia]

Right.

[Ben]

Even, like now at like one of my skinniest, I'm still like, technically, my BMI is way too high.

[Olivia]

Yeah, but BMI is like, not real.

[Ben]

Whatever. I don't believe in it. He. You can't be a fat man and not wear underwear. Like, he.

[Olivia]

I don't think you can be a human being and not wear underwear, period.

[Ben]

But it's different. Like, if you're like a skinny person, you're eating really clean, like, there's like a solid chance that you're not shitting your pants during the day. Like, when you're a fat person, at least once a year, you are going to let some shit out.

[Olivia]

Okay? Forget about the rub.

[Ben]

You're gonna shark. No, you're gonna shark into your jeans.

[Olivia]

Literally. Like, your legs and your pants. And like, those are your private parts. You should keep them sacred. Like, it's just wrong.

[Ben]

It's super uncomfortable. Anybody that wears. First of all, there are different articles of clothing that could work commando and not commando. I certainly hope he was never wearing jeans. Okay? He can't wear.

[Olivia]

He's never wearing underwear, period. Of course he's not wearing underwear with jeans.

[Ben]

But I hope that he doesn't wear jeans, I'm saying, at all.

[Olivia]

I'm sure at some point over the last 20 plus years, he has worn a pair of jeans. Now I haven't, but maybe he has.

[Ben]

He wearing jeans with no underwear.

[Olivia]

Imagine wearing no underwear. I'm saying imagine wearing no underwear.

[Ben]

As a man, you go to the urinal and you zip down your zipper for the jeans. Okay? I don't pee. Talk about the urinal and then you pee. And then you pee. My dad loves to tell a story about how when he was eight years old, he went to the urinal and his Uncle Bumi helped him pull back up his zipper and clipped his nuts right in the zipper. And ever since he's told me, beware of the zipper. Charles Barkley. When he was at that urinal, Olivia, I promise you, he clipped his nuts.

[Olivia]

I do not think that your dad gave up permission for you to tell that story on toast.

[Ben]

He did. He did.

[Olivia]

He did. Oh, my God.

[Ben]

Uncle Bummy lives on. Lives on forever.

[Olivia]

How do you spell Bummy?

[Ben]

B U, M, M, Y. Bumy. Maybe I, E. I actually don't know his real name. Uncle Bummy.

[Olivia]

We need to find out his real name. That is some name.

[Ben]

Yes. Another fun fact, which I've told all these stories on. Good Guys. Another fun fact about Bruce. My grandfather was breastfed till he was 8. You know that, Liv. You know that, Liv. Breastfed till he was 8.

[Olivia]

How long did he live?

[Ben]

He lived to 93. 93.

[Olivia]

Maybe there's a correlation.

[Ben]

100%. I mean, for sure.

[Olivia]

Yeah, that's pretty wild. Was there a reason? Was he like the oldest and then all these other kids came and like they just like kept needing to all be breastfed or.

[Ben]

No, I think that, like, that's an excellent question. I haven't dug deep. I always just heard story and I was like, that's disgusting. Honestly, like that was what I heard.

[Olivia]

It was just like also a different time. Like, I think those things, things were way more normalized. Now when you hear it today, it's like, that's weird. But like, is it?

[Ben]

I don't know if it's weird. Yeah, I think it's a little bit weird having an 8 year old with teeth walk up to a breast and take it, you know, like, that's like a little strange, right?

[Olivia]

But what about in the comfort of your own home where you're like, not thinking about and this is just the way that the child's being fed?

[Ben]

I guess so. It's much cheaper. My God, the amount of money you save on groceries, if not really, why, if they're only being breastfed.

[Olivia]

They're not only being breastfed.

[Ben]

Yeah, that's true. You're right. You're right.

[Olivia]

It's supplemental eating.

[Ben]

Supplemental.

[Olivia]

It's like, okay, what you're saving like on a carton of milk every other week.

[Ben]

No, it's supplemental. You're right, you're right, you're right. Back to Charles Barkley. Yeah. So Charles, not Ben's family history. So Charles Barkley commando. Yeah, it's.

[Olivia]

Do you think he says some of these things just for like, like somebody put him up to this with the whole undies, like, gift whatnot.

[Ben]

It's so funny. Like, he doesn't mind being the butt of the joke.

[Olivia]

Yeah.

[Ben]

And like, yes. I absolutely think that he told somebody this story. He was in on the story. But he is amazing. He's lost so much weight with Ro. I don't know if you've seen that.

[Olivia]

No, I haven't seen it.

[Ben]

But he's like the face of Ro. He's the face of Ro.

[Olivia]

No, Serena Williams is. But maybe he's the male face.

[Ben]

She's a face.

[Olivia]

He's a face. Yeah, yeah. Understood.

[Ben]

He is killing it. He's lost a ton of weight. GLPs are killing it for him.

[Olivia]

Yeah.

[Ben]

I mean, I love a glp.

[Olivia]

Yeah. Don't we all?

[Ben]

Absolutely. Fantastic. But he looks great and. Yeah. You know, I don't know when he started doing football. He's an NBA player.

[Olivia]

I think maybe he was just a guest on the Manning brothers show.

[Ben]

Yeah.

[Olivia]

Which is why, like, he's a sports related person. Oh, my God, I'm so sorry. That is so inappropriate of me.

[Ben]

That's okay.

[Olivia]

Just say what?

[Ben]

Just say what? Just like what?

[Olivia]

Oh, just finish my thought. Yeah. Oh, yeah. I just think he was a guest on their show, not that he was a commentator on Monday Night Football.

[Ben]

Yes.

[Olivia]

Do you know anything about the Manning cast? Like the Amazon, whatever. Is it Amazon?

[Ben]

Monday Night Football? I have no idea. All that I know is that they produced my new favorite show, Chad Powers. Have you seen Chad Powers?

[Olivia]

No. Should I?

[Ben]

Oh, my God, you love it.

[Olivia]

Really? Would I? What is it about?

[Ben]

It is Mrs. Doubtfire meets football. That's what it is.

[Olivia]

It's a comedy.

[Ben]

Yes. It's a disgraced football player who was.

[Olivia]

Did you watch Stick?

[Ben]

No.

[Olivia]

Okay. That's a disgraced golf player, Owen Wilson on Apple tv. So if you like that, you would like that.

[Ben]

I actually heard that I would love Stick because it has like a Ted Lasso feel and I love Ted Lasso.

[Olivia]

Yeah. It's not quite as good as Ted Lasso. I'll be.

[Ben]

But Chad Powers, Olivia, he's a disgraced football player and he wants to come back to football. So he literally. His dad is like a makeup artist in Hollywood and he fully euphugenized his face and he goes and tries out for a college football team, makes it and is like the best. I haven't made it to the end to see if he gets caught. I'm sure he does.

[Olivia]

Are you giving shit away?

[Ben]

No, no, no. Well, yeah. Spoiler alert. Sorry. But no, that's, like, the highest level. Fuck spoiler alerts. Okay?

[Olivia]

It's like you're telling everybody, like, what's it about?

[Ben]

I know, but, like, you wouldn't have watched it anyways.

[Olivia]

Why? You told me to. I wouldn't take care of it.

[Ben]

But I'm saying it's not my job to tell you about a show and then you more about it. Like, I'm talking to you about it. It's too, like, you know, I didn't go into the nitty gritty.

[Olivia]

Sure.

[Ben]

So I'm just supposed to say, watch Chad Powers and not tell you why?

[Olivia]

No, you said. You said euphodyniah meets disgraced or defunct football player.

[Ben]

Yes.

[Olivia]

Maybe you just left. I didn't tell you anything about stick.

[Ben]

He's disgraced.

[Olivia]

I just said, like, yeah, disgraced golfer.

[Ben]

You didn't tell me enough about sticks for me to love it. And you then told me that it wasn't enough. Like, Ted Lasso, and I love Ted Lasso. Well, I need a little bit more. Tell me more about stick. Sell me.

[Olivia]

Do you actually want me to tell you?

[Ben]

Yeah, tell me. Not, like, too much.

[Olivia]

No, if. Like, if you. If you don't want to hear this.

[Ben]

You should not move too much.

[Olivia]

No. Anyway, so stick, Owen Wilson. I forget the name of his character. He was, like, at the prime of his life in golf and basically, like, has a menti b and, like, totally flops. And, like, we meet him at this point in his life where he's, like, getting a divorce, selling his house. He has absolutely nothing. And he finds this kid who is a complete golf prodigy and, like, literally, like, sells his whole life to take him on the road and be his coach so that he can get back into golf and be like that.

[Ben]

Oh, that's nice.

[Olivia]

But it's very comedic done. It's not like, see, by the way.

[Ben]

You told me enough to get me in. Not too much to spoil it.

[Olivia]

No, I didn't say.

[Ben]

That was a wonderful entree into the show.

[Olivia]

Thank you.

[Ben]

And it's similar to The Happy Gilmore 2. I guess he doesn't end up playing, but, like, Happy Gilmore 2, by the way.

[Olivia]

Yeah, I watched it, but I can't remember what.

[Ben]

Olivia. It was such a bad movie.

[Olivia]

It was so bad.

[Ben]

The first 45 minutes were so good.

[Olivia]

Well, it was just about who was in it. Like, that was the whole point of the show, you know, or movie, I.

[Ben]

Should say, were so good. And then of the. The rest, it was no good. But, yeah, I don't know how we got here Charles Barkley.

[Olivia]

Yeah, Charles Barkley. We got into sports.

[Ben]

We did. Oh, yeah, yeah.

[Olivia]

Would you consider Good Guys a sports podcast?

[Ben]

No, not at all.

[Olivia]

Not at all, not at all. Does Josh like sports?

[Ben]

No. No. I mean, he's actually a big LA Kings fan. He kind of likes hockey and his father in law played for the jets for 10 years, so he's like sports adjacent. Ken O'. Brien.

[Olivia]

Yeah. Didn't know that.

[Ben]

But that's QB.

[Olivia]

Love to know that.

[Ben]

But yeah, no, we don't talk about sports at all. And I don't wish that we did.

[Olivia]

No, no. Whatever you're doing is really working.

[Ben]

No, but I'm happy not talking about sports. When you talk about sports, you have to be more topical. You can't talk about sports from two weeks ago. Oh, Jalen Brunson had a great game. They're like, when, Ben, when?

[Olivia]

Right.

[Ben]

So we're just like funny and light and fun and if we release it two weeks later.

[Olivia]

Right. Well, you're doing a lot of interviews with people and like, you have to coordinate schedules and whatnot, so. Yes. Yeah. It has to be every screen.

[Ben]

Correct. We just had a great episode with John Stamos.

[Olivia]

I mean, I saw it everywhere.

[Ben]

Yeah, yeah. I mean, he. He spilled the tea.

[Olivia]

He spilled the tea. You had some great guests on Good Guys.

[Ben]

Yeah, we have.

[Olivia]

I love watching your clips. I do feel like sometimes you talk about me on Good Guys. Like, you're always telling stories.

[Ben]

I definitely. I definitely have.

[Olivia]

Yeah. Yeah. I just like, hear things through the grapevine, you know? That's always how I find out about stuff. Like, people will be in my DMs will. Like, and I'm like, oh, what happened?

[Ben]

That's literally what happens to me all the time on the church. Like, did you hear what they said about you? I'm like, no. And I don't want to know. Stop it.

[Olivia]

Oh, you don't want to know? Nope. Oh, I don't. I go run. I'm like, what today?

[Ben]

Nope, nope. I don't want to know. I don't want to know. I don't want to know anything ever. Tell me nothing. That's so interesting and just like, let me exist in a world where I could live a bubble. I live in a bubble.

[Olivia]

But you're so happy in your bubble, so it works for you.

[Ben]

I'm so happy in my bubble. I'm so ill informed sometimes, like, especially about pop culture, but I own it and it's great.

[Olivia]

You know what? I am incredibly informed and incredibly uninformed. At the same time.

[Ben]

Time, sure.

[Olivia]

You know, I think you're.

[Ben]

I think you're pretty informed.

[Olivia]

No, I know a lot of things, but, like, I don't, like, watch and sit around and, like, watch a lot of Bravo. I used to, back in the day, so I'm, like, aware of, like, the players and whatnot. But, like, I. I don't watch, like, reality tv, really. I'm watching, like, Dark Crime, you know?

[Ben]

Yeah, no, you're. You're scary.

[Olivia]

I'm scary, but you guys gave me a scary recommendation.

[Ben]

Wayward. If you. I think Claudia's already spoken about it, but if. If she hasn't spoken about it, I went looking for.

[Olivia]

Are you sure it's on Netflix?

[Ben]

Yes. Way worse.

[Olivia]

Okay, I have to go back.

[Ben]

It is spooky. It is about a troubled teen facility where they get kidnapped in the middle of the night.

[Olivia]

I saw that. Do you know what? Can I just tell you something that's too dark for me?

[Ben]

It's really fucking dark.

[Olivia]

I don't like that. I actually skipped over that. I know exactly what you're talking about now. Thank you for gleaning some insights from it so I could decide whether or not it's for me. It's not.

[Ben]

So it's. It's for you. It's only spooky like that for, like, two episodes and then it becomes this, like, Eerie Town mystery. I'm telling you.

[Olivia]

Okay, I will take your recommendation. I just like, when I talk about, like, dark. I'm more so talking about, like, murder mystery, whodunit vibes, and, like, forensics and clues. Because, like, I like to investigate. Yeah, that's you. But I do not, like, like, really, like, morally fucked up things, you know?

[Ben]

When. How did you become such a great detective?

[Olivia]

I think I just pay really close attention to a lot of things. Like, I'm very detail oriented.

[Ben]

No, but, you know, but you're also. You're also able to find things that other. Like, we will literally go to Olivia and we're like, find the Social Security number for this security guard. She will find it.

[Olivia]

I can't.

[Ben]

Yes, you can.

[Olivia]

No, no.

[Ben]

You could. You don't think you could.

[Olivia]

No. Not a Social Security.

[Ben]

A credit card number?

[Olivia]

No, probably not. Like, personal information.

[Ben]

Are you a hacker?

[Olivia]

No, I am, like, no. Very basic. I mean, didn't you just hear my phone ring? I can barely use a device.

[Ben]

Yeah, but that could have been, like, somebody calling you, like, to, like, confirm, like, your newest scheme. Like, you're not, like, texting the elderly, like, trying to get Their Social Security numbers. Like, I think that you could do that.

[Olivia]

That I would never. Are you fudging kidding me? No, it's just, like, if you need to, like, know something about someone, like.

[Ben]

Imagine, like, that new crypto scam is you, like, give me your bitcoin number. Do you know how many times my.

[Olivia]

Dad tell you I don't even understand, like, web3 blockchain crypto. Like, I will not partake in it, even though people talk about it being the future, because I genuinely don't understand it. Like, I cannot participate in things that I do not understand.

[Ben]

No. Miss me on it. That said, if my dad calls me one more time asking if something is real, like, dad, you don't. You don't have.

[Olivia]

Everything is fake.

[Ben]

You don't have a Coinbase account.

[Olivia]

Everything is fake.

[Ben]

So how in the world could somebody be trying to send you bitcoin?

[Olivia]

Yeah. No, you don't.

[Ben]

You're not in it.

[Olivia]

Is he getting phished all the time?

[Ben]

All the time. Oh, my God.

[Olivia]

Really? Unfortunately.

[Ben]

Fished all the time. He'll literally get a call from the bank.

[Olivia]

He calls you and doesn't get a call from the bank. You never answer any numbers you don't know?

[Ben]

No, he'll get a call from the bank. We need you to approve this wire. He's like, what wire? They're like, this wire. He's like, oh, sure, dad. They don't call from the bank.

[Olivia]

Has he ever gotten into, like, a bad situation?

[Ben]

I think one time he gave somebody, like, $1,800.

[Olivia]

That's really not good.

[Ben]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, but he's learned. He's learned his lesson, and he no longer falls for it. But I'm telling you, like, the amount.

[Olivia]

I'm feeling sad for him, I want to go track down that $1,800.

[Ben]

No, no, no. This is. By the way, you think just him.

[Olivia]

Anybody over the age.

[Ben]

Anybody over the age of 50 is.

[Olivia]

Susceptible to this 100%.

[Ben]

They're too trusting. And I think it was Sam Altman who said it recently. The fact that banks are still using voice to confirm wires when we live in an age of AI where I could literally take your voice, as scary as it is, and confirm a wire. So dumb.

[Olivia]

So dumb.

[Ben]

So dumb. We're living in a world which is very scary to think about, where we're so advanced and we're so behind all at once. And that's gonna meet.

[Olivia]

We are so advanced, and it's gonna.

[Ben]

Be really, really scary.

[Olivia]

I agree. I totally agree. Can we really scare. I Mean, in a lot of ways. Like, things feel, like, very backwards. Like, why aren't. Like, why does it still take, like, six hours on a flight to go, like, from one side of the country to the other?

[Ben]

Why do I have to go to the DMV ever?

[Olivia]

Well, yeah, I try not to do that.

[Ben]

Why can't I text someone to get a new passport? Like, why can't I take a picture at home and send. Like, it's just.

[Olivia]

Yeah.

[Ben]

There's so many archaic things going on.

[Olivia]

So many, so many.

[Ben]

Yet we're so advanced. Liz. Live.

[Olivia]

I know. We could be more advanced. I think we could. I think that's why people are afraid of AI. But at the same time, like, AI has been around for a while. It wasn't just invented, like, last year. Do you know what I mean? AI's been around for, like, 15 years. I think more of, like, the consumer application is obviously way more of, like, you know, regular human beings using chachi beat to say, like, here's what's in my fridge. What should I make for dinner tonight? You know, having sort of that assistance. But AI as a technology is not new.

[Ben]

No, it's just starting to pick up steam.

[Olivia]

Yeah.

[Ben]

Yeah. And it's really scary. Do we have another story, by the way?

[Olivia]

We do. We have. We have three more stories, actually. I'm just enjoying speaking to you.

[Ben]

No, me too. I'm. I'm just.

[Olivia]

This is our Paris story. Okay. The Louvre surveillance system password was reportedly Louvre.

[Ben]

You're lying. You're lying. On October 18, security password was Louvre.

[Olivia]

I know. And by the way, who would do that other than you? You know, your password's probably Ben.

[Ben]

No, no, mine are like. Actually, no, I'm not going to say. I'm not going to say it in front of everyone. I was going to say.

[Olivia]

Actually, it's not. I don't know how I figure out people's Social Security numbers and credit card numbers. It's because they share their passwords on the.

[Ben]

Totally. No, that was really. That was literally. I literally almost gave away all.

[Olivia]

No, I would have made them cut it out because I was really serious.

[Ben]

So stupid. What am I. What's wrong with me? I literally, like. No, it's not that. It's.

[Olivia]

You're too trusted.

[Ben]

No, I'm not trusting. I'm just like, I don't know.

[Olivia]

A Louvre employee is revealing one important security detail on October 18th, which is my sweet Levi's birthday, broke into the famous Paris museum and in seven minutes stole more than 100 million in jewels. Since the investigation began, which, let's be honest, the investigation is nowhere. It has been uncovered that the suspects forced entry using power tools to break through the second floor window at the Gallery de Apollon. The Apollo Gallery, which had opened its doors to the public. President and Director of the Louvre, Lawrence De Cars. That's probably saying it wrong. Told the French Senate that the only camera installed outside the Apollo Gallery did not capture footage of the window where the thieves broke in and exited.

[Ben]

Sure, sure. Inside job.

[Olivia]

Set up this specific gallery.

[Ben]

Full inside job. They obviously changed the password to Louv. It wasn't Louv. Okay. It wasn't. They definitely did a strong password like they recommend on apple. Right. The ZW974 that you don't know. Somebody else knows. Somebody went in, changed it to Louvre, disabled the cameras. This was an inside job.

[Olivia]

Or, or, or, or, or the password was Louvre. And it was just like so silly and stupid because they never thought that anybody would ever think about that, let alone attempt to rob. And the people that were responsible for this Apollo Gallery knew exactly where the camera was set up. So they circumvented the camera when they did their robbery.

[Ben]

Inside job.

[Olivia]

Anyways, at the time of the heist, the password for the museum security was Louvre. A museum. A museum employee with knowledge of the system told ABC News on Wednesday, November 5th, 5th, the French outlet Liberation first reported on the password, citing confidential documents. This is seriously insane. And the museum director said he was appalled. Yeah, no, please.

[Ben]

He wasn't very appalled. How much money do you think he made? I mean, inside job.

[Olivia]

Totally inside job. The fact that it is for a specific gallery.

[Ben]

What'd they steal?

[Olivia]

They stole, like, all these Napoleonic, like, crowns and jewels.

[Ben]

Got it. So things that they could completely dismember and sell.

[Olivia]

Well, which they obviously have. The jewels stolen in the heist include a sapphire tiara, a sapphire necklace, a single sapphire earring, a matching emerald necklace and emerald earrings. A tiara, a large brooch. Brooch. Brooch.

[Ben]

Brooch.

[Olivia]

A second brooch, by the way. It's like brooch, of course, but when you're looking at it. B R O O C H. Oh, brooch. Thank you.

[Ben]

Got it.

[Olivia]

Okay.

[Ben]

Thank you.

[Olivia]

Known as the reliquary.

[Jackie]

Brooch.

[Olivia]

I almost said brooch. Again.

[Jackie]

Again.

[Olivia]

The TR was reportedly later found damaged outside the museum because they fucking dropped something on their way out.

[Ben]

Yeah. Okay. So these are smart criminals. Dumb criminals steal art because you can't resell art without it being known that it was stolen.

[Olivia]

Have you ever seen that documentary?

[Ben]

No.

[Olivia]

Okay. I'M fuzzy on the details, but you would love it. Now that we're talking about this, do.

[Ben]

You know the name of it?

[Olivia]

I'm gonna look it up. Basically, this very sort of like, quirky couple in Arizona, they, like, died in their house. And when they went into their house, they had so many, like, crazy antiques. Like, it was. I can't even describe, like, what the house looked like, but inside the house rolled up was one of these, like, very famous paintings, like a Rembrandt or something that was stolen from a museum 20 years ago that had been missing all this time. So the thought process was that this couple, like, were the thieves and they literally, to your point, were just keeping this, like, 20, $30 million painting, maybe even like $100 million painting. Right? Like, rolled up in their house with all these other crazy ass artifacts that they've had. Like, your point is exactly right. People steal. If they steal art, there is nothing.

[Ben]

That you can do, nothing you can do with it. Unless you want to hang it in your house.

[Olivia]

Right. Or sell it on, like, the black market or something.

[Ben]

Somebody's probably gonna find it. No, you can't even sell it on the black market.

[Olivia]

The black market, like, how do you get access? Through AI?

[Ben]

No, definitely not through AI. I think the polar opposite. I think, like, the black market is, like burner phones and, like, you can't trace it. All cash or, like, wired through Switzerland or, like, that's the black market.

[Olivia]

That's it.

[Ben]

I don't think that a black market sale. Unless somebody wanted to buy that painting, hang it in their home. But if it's reported stolen, but then.

[Olivia]

You'Re in your home. Yeah. People are gonna come to your house and be like, hey, thief, what up?

[Ben]

Yeah, you can't steal art. You can steal tiaras. You can take out the stones, you can melt them down. You. Can you melt down a stone? Probably not, no.

[Olivia]

But you could reset it.

[Ben]

Reset it and sell the stone. Yeah, yeah, yeah, totally. I was thinking gold. That's why it's smart to steal gold, right? You melt down the gold.

[Olivia]

Gold is quite expensive these days. Yeah.

[Ben]

Pumping gold. I don't know who's pumping gold. Yeah, somebody's pumping gold.

[Olivia]

Yeah.

[Jackie]

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[Olivia]

We do Pumping gold. Just things you say. Oh, I love this story. Okay. Nara and Lucky Blue Smith pose with three of their kids as their family makes their campaign debut for skims holiday. Did you see the picture?

[Ben]

I don't know who that is.

[Olivia]

Yes you do. She like is that beautiful model food influencer who's like I was feeling like chewing on gum today so I made it from scratch at home.

[Ben]

Oh, maybe I've seen her.

[Olivia]

You've totally seen her. The name sounds like my kids wanted a homemade peanut butter and jelly sandwich. So like she literally took the peanuts from her garden in and like them up like you. So homemade. No, I strive to be like that. Like I'm nowhere near that. But they're like so they're, they're models. But also she is a food influencer. Her stuff is so like calming and therapeutic but at the same time like so unrealistic because she literally does make gum from scratch.

[Ben]

Gum.

[Olivia]

Or like it's like my kids wanted a grilled cheese and but like she's literally making the cheese, you know, like everything is from scratch.

[Ben]

Good for her.

[Olivia]

Yeah. I think they live in Utah. Nara and Lucky Blue Smith's kids are making their Lucky Blue. Lucky Blue. He's a model.

[Ben]

His name is Lucky Blue.

[Olivia]

His name is Lucky Blue.

[Ben]

His real name.

[Olivia]

Well, I mean, do I know what.

[Ben]

His birth name is? Nara and Lucky Blue Smith. Yeah, we've lost the plot.

[Olivia]

Their kids actually have really cute names, too. Oh, let me get there. You'll love this.

[Ben]

Oh, my God.

[Olivia]

On Thursday, November 6th, Jackie O's birthday, the influencer and her model husband, alongside three of their four kids, were announced as the stars for Skim's new holiday campaign. And in the festive photo, the famous couple could be seen cuddling up in the kitchen wearing skims pajamas. In the kitchen, of course. Other snaps show three of Nara and Lucky's kids, their older daughters, Rumble Honey and Whimsy Lou.

[Ben]

Whimsy Lou.

[Olivia]

As well as their son, Whimsy Lou. Free Books, as well as her son, Slim Easy.

[Ben]

No, these are not their names, Liv. These are their fucking making it up. Slim Easy.

[Olivia]

Slim Easy. Wearing matching Christmas theme clothes.

[Ben]

How old are these kids? What happens when they go to school? His name is Slim Easy. I don't know why you're reacting as if it's not crazy. Slim Easy is a name of a boy.

[Olivia]

I just think that people can name their kids whatever they want. Yeah.

[Ben]

If they homeschool them and they never have to interact with the real world.

[Olivia]

Well, everybody has to interact with the real world at some point, even if you want to.

[Ben]

Not if your name is Slim Easy. You're telling me he can apply for a job with the name Slim Easy?

[Olivia]

I just feel like people that are named like Slim Eazy, those are the.

[Ben]

People, are destined for crime.

[Olivia]

Why? Why crime?

[Ben]

Because that's like the name of a gang member. Slim Easy. That's not. No. There's no famous person named Sleep the.

[Olivia]

Baby that wasn't in the campaign. Her name is Fonny Golden. Listen, it's no Ruby Soffer, okay?

[Ben]

I don't even know what to do with these names. I don't even know what to do with these names. I'm appalled.

[Olivia]

I'm surprised you weren't, like, so caught off guard by Rumble Honey.

[Ben]

No, I was, but Slim Easy was real. Rumble Honey's one one name. I think they're Rumble comma Honey.

[Olivia]

No, not comma.

[Ben]

No, I'm saying, like, is it Rumble? Is it Rumble Smith and Honeysmith or Rumble Honeysmith?

[Olivia]

It's Rumble Honeysmith.

[Ben]

Oh, my God.

[Olivia]

It's Rumble, Honeysmith, Slimsy Lou Smith.

[Ben]

People have known this, Lynn.

[Olivia]

Easy Smith.

[Ben]

People have known this.

[Olivia]

Yes.

[Ben]

Got it.

[Olivia]

How?

[Ben]

I'm probably just late. I'm probably just late.

[Olivia]

You probably just didn't know their kids names. It's not outrage. It's creativity. Olivia.

[Ben]

No, like this is. This is not right.

[Olivia]

It's just people are allowed to name their kids whatever they want. They're very creative. Okay, Lucky Blue. What did you expect Lucky Blue's kids names to be?

[Ben]

I can't believe his name is Lucky Blue.

[Olivia]

Can you? His name, by the way.

[Ben]

Sorry, his name is not Lucky Blue. I bet you they all have real names. Okay, what's the. What do you call? I know that we call it Anglo sizing. When you take a Jewish name and you make it a non Jewish name. Like Jon Stewart was originally like John Manischewitz or something.

[Olivia]

Right.

[Ben]

And now he's Jon Stewart.

[Olivia]

Right.

[Ben]

What do you call when you just change your name in Hollywood but you weren't Jewish? Is there a word for that?

[Olivia]

I think it's just called changing your name in Hollywood.

[Ben]

Got it.

[Olivia]

Okay. But I do want to say, what's.

[Ben]

Lucky Blue's real name?

[Olivia]

I just looked it up and it looks like it's Lucky Blue on Wikipedia. There's no other real name, of course.

[Ben]

Because they're burying it. They're smart. Lucky Blue has a real name. It's probably like Dennis or something.

[Olivia]

What is Lucky Blue's Dennis.

[Ben]

Right?

[Olivia]

Dennis Smith, real name.

[Ben]

Dennis Smith is a good name.

[Olivia]

Lucky Blue's real name is Lucky Blue Smith. And he is an American model, actor, and musician who is part of the band Atomics with his sisters, Starley, Piper, America and Daisy. Clementine.

[Ben]

Okay, so the parents started this.

[Olivia]

They like unique names.

[Ben]

No, I'm saying Daisy. Lucky Blue's parents started this. Clementine. You know another fun fact?

[Olivia]

Clementine is a very cute name. We love Daisy. Shannon's baby is named Daisy. That's a lovely name.

[Ben]

I'm actually not sure shocked that these are their names now that I'm thinking about it. You know that my parents almost named me Blue and my sister Magenta.

[Jackie]

Right.

[Olivia]

And then they didn't. They just used those letters.

[Ben]

Yeah. Isn't that crazy? I feel like, imagine if my name was Blue.

[Olivia]

Like, I actually think that's very cute.

[Ben]

I would have no career.

[Olivia]

And I feel like actually maybe you'd have a bigger career, Ben.

[Ben]

No, I wouldn't.

[Olivia]

And maybe, maybe your sister would be like Maggie instead of Magenta.

[Ben]

Terrible name. Maggie Yuck. I don't like that at all.

[Olivia]

What names do you like?

[Ben]

Normal names. Names for people that had meaning. I think we just do this in Judaism. I don't know if everybody does this. I love naming for someone special.

[Olivia]

Right. Or if you're.

[Ben]

And nobody's name was Lucky Blue.

[Olivia]

Or if the name means something.

[Jackie]

Yeah.

[Olivia]

You know, I love the meaning of names.

[Ben]

Meaning of names.

[Olivia]

Yeah.

[Ben]

Does he have blue eyes?

[Olivia]

Totally.

[Ben]

If he does, then he changed his name.

[Olivia]

But, you know, all babies.

[Ben]

Because they couldn't have known. That's what I'm saying.

[Olivia]

No, his eyes are incredibly blue, actually.

[Ben]

Oh, so then he changed his name.

[Olivia]

That's him.

[Ben]

Yep. They buried it. They buried his real name over there.

[Olivia]

I mean, I Googled, how do you bury somebody's real name?

[Ben]

I mean, you go to. I forget that guy's name. Felix. He's the one that's SEO. You can bury a name.

[Olivia]

Nobody will get that joke except me.

[Ben]

You can bury a name. No, he's just like an SEO consultant. You can bury anything you want. Okay. You can bury anything you want, including Lucky Blue's real name.

[Olivia]

You cannot fuck up your birth certificate. It is.

[Ben]

It says you can change your name. Legally.

[Olivia]

You can legally change your name.

[Ben]

That's what he did. And then buried it. If his eyes were green, Olivia, and his name was Lucky Blue, I would believe that.

[Olivia]

Why? He could just wear contact.

[Ben]

This is interesting.

[Olivia]

No, no. Or he could just go by Lucky and drop the blue.

[Ben]

Even worse. Lucky. It's the name of a dog.

[Olivia]

Be a lady tonight.

[Ben]

That's the name of a dog. Dog. Lucky.

[Olivia]

I mean, a lot of people use human names for their dogs. Theo.

[Ben]

Yeah. By the way, an amazing name for a distinguished dead gentleman. Like, distinguished dead gentleman. He was great.

[Olivia]

Distinguished, right? So great.

[Ben]

He was a great boy.

[Olivia]

He really was.

[Ben]

Rest in peace. Romeo, though, has really come around.

[Olivia]

I mean, Romeo is so sweet and cute.

[Ben]

No, but he really, like, he is killing it.

[Olivia]

I know, but you know all like. Like when dogs are puppies, like, they're really so, like, rambunctious, you know, 100%.

[Ben]

And he just. Just, like in his formative years.

[Olivia]

I mean, that's no excuse for Ratnolia.

[Ben]

No, no.

[Olivia]

I love Magnolia. I just feel like there's been a lot of slander about Magnolia on this podcast, so I just felt the need to continue it, you know?

[Ben]

Yeah. I will be on the opposite side. I will defend Magnolia. I will defend her.

[Olivia]

Magnolia just has to stop barking. But she's so lovely, you know?

[Ben]

She's a lovely dog. And She's Margo's and they have an intimate relationship. And I think Margo don't watch today's episode. No, you should. Absolutely should. Because I defended your honor. That's all.

[Olivia]

Yeah, no, like, so sweet.

[Ben]

Your honor has been defended, Margot.

[Olivia]

All right, last story. You ready? By the way, I'm having so much fun with you.

[Ben]

Same. It's great. We're great. Easy.

[Olivia]

Totally. Maybe I could be a guest on Good Guys.

[Jackie]

Sure. What?

[Olivia]

We talk about anything you want.

[Ben]

Anything you want.

[Olivia]

No, no, I'm kidding.

[Ben]

We can talk about your garden and how you garden.

[Olivia]

Oh, my God, Totally. You're gonna come see my garden tonight.

[Ben]

I'm super excited. I need to see it. And I need you to teach me how to garden.

[Olivia]

Oh, my God. 100%. Hire a farmer. That's what it is. I know, but you could probably have something like, really cute, like in New York, or like on a terrace or balcony.

[Ben]

My mom is actually an expert gardener.

[Olivia]

Oh, I'm nothing less.

[Ben]

From by an expert gardener, I think she goes Home Depot buys the powder, puts it in soil and waters it. That said, when I go over, maybe.

[Olivia]

I have to keep it alive.

[Ben]

She keeps it alive.

[Olivia]

Yeah.

[Ben]

And when I go over, she's like, man, would you like some fresh cherry tomato?

[Olivia]

You would love it. Also because even tonight you'll see that I have my. What? My herb box, Right? So, like, if you just needed some parsley. We know you love parsley. Some dill, like, so fresh, like, you don't have to run to the store if you forgot something, you know.

[Ben]

Absolutely lovely.

[Olivia]

We literally ate a papaya from my papaya tree that I planted in February two nights ago.

[Ben]

How was it?

[Olivia]

So sweet and delicious.

[Ben]

That's so fun.

[Olivia]

Yeah. So fun. Levi literally ate the entire papaya and it was the size of your head.

[Ben]

No. Living off the land is really.

[Olivia]

It's really so wonderful.

[Ben]

It's really special.

[Olivia]

It really is. I totally agree. Okay, last story, which is I'm seriously obsessed with this. Mom. Mom man goes viral. After ordering 11 pounds of French butter for wife's push present.

[Ben]

I saw this. Wow.

[Olivia]

After welcoming their son James Michael Vitale knew he wanted to gift his wife Madison a push present she'd never forget. The 35 year old Hoboken, New Jersey dad spent some time debating what to get her thinking about the things she loves. And then it hit him. French butter. I've always been obsessed with butter, specifically French butter, and knew I'd enjoy it. Madison tells people exclusively after our honeymoon in France last year, where we Ate a ton of bread and butter and jamon hambon burreh sandwiches like Joey Kamasta. Jamon ham like Joey Kamasta. He knew I'd appreciate it. I've also gotten into making sourdough over the past year. Yeah, you go, girl. So we always have fresh bread at home. He went all out ordering 11 pounds, which is 5 kilos of butter from Straight from Normandy. And it cost only $273.56, plus about $50 for other sandwich ingredients. Amazing gift. The only thing I have to say about this is that I also like hope you got, like, another gift on the side. Do you know what I mean?

[Ben]

What are you gonna do with 11 pounds of butter? Well, first and foremost, Madison, from sister snacking.

[Olivia]

Oh, yes.

[Ben]

Sister snacking friends. And I'm pretty sure that they're fans of the toast. They're gonna be excited that we're doing this.

[Olivia]

Love, love, love, love, love.

[Ben]

And all that I have to say is, what do you do with 11 pounds of butter? Do you freeze it?

[Olivia]

You invite Ben over, You know, you invite Joe, come ask him over.

[Ben]

Ben goes through a little butter. Actually, Ben makes his own butter.

[Olivia]

Butter, like butter lasts a good amount of time in the fridge.

[Ben]

Do you own butter, Liv? I don't. Have you ever?

[Olivia]

No, but I would like to.

[Ben]

This is the easiest.

[Olivia]

It is really easy. I should.

[Ben]

Most unbelievable experience. You buy heavy whipping cream and you fucking turn it on.

[Olivia]

I know. In your know, we're really more of a cream cheese family than we are a butter family, which is the only reason why I haven't. But I think it's amazing.

[Ben]

Do you make your own butter? You put in your herbs. You make an herb butterfly.

[Olivia]

Garlic. Garlic.

[Ben]

Oh, this is fantastic. Fantastic, fantastic. And you put it on your fresh sourdough bread. I went to LA and I forgot about my sourdough starter. It's sitting in the fridge. Do you think it's still good?

[Olivia]

100%. It will be good in the fridge for years.

[Ben]

So it's still. So it's still a lot.

[Olivia]

100%, maybe, like, when you take it out, you just maybe have to feed it twice before you use it. It needs, like, it needs to come back to life a little bit, but leaving it in the fridge is totally normal and fine. Yeah.

[Ben]

Look, I went really.

[Olivia]

I loved your sourdough journey, by the way.

[Ben]

I went really hard into it. I. I loved it. It's a journey that I'm realizing one can only do when they're settled.

[Olivia]

Interesting. Yes. I agree with that.

[Ben]

If you Are moving, which, like, we went from the Hamptons to LA to Florida to like.

[Olivia]

Right, you're on the move.

[Ben]

We're on the move.

[Olivia]

Yeah, I agree with that.

[Ben]

And you need to be in one place really settled to get into a routine of making bread.

[Olivia]

100%.

[Ben]

You're gonna want to make bread every day.

[Olivia]

Right?

[Ben]

And making bread every day requires.

[Olivia]

It's also. It's about the timing. Like, you sort of have to be like. Like not like necessarily sedentary in a place, but like, it sort of has to like, work with your schedule.

[Ben]

Pretty sedentary. I mean, it takes the whole day.

[Olivia]

Yeah, it does. You get. And the more you do it, the sort of like, sort of corner cutting, you learn where you learn how to like, maneuver. Do you really have to go back every hour and stretch and fold four times? I don't always, you know, like happens and guess what? It turns out totally fine.

[Ben]

But you do need to let it rise. You do, like, like that.

[Olivia]

You know what I've been doing, actually, I did this last night right before I go to sleep at like 11pm I mix my dough and instead of like waiting and doing stretch and folds, I actually mix it in the mixer for like five minutes. So it builds up the gluten.

[Ben]

Interesting.

[Olivia]

And then I leave it on the counter till I'm up the next morning, seven, eight o'. Clock. And I put it right in the fridge.

[Ben]

Got it.

[Olivia]

And then I bake it.

[Ben]

You let it rise eight hours overnight.

[Olivia]

Overnight.

[Ben]

That's nice.

[Olivia]

So, like, it's really not that time consuming, you know?

[Ben]

No, that's a really smart way to do it.

[Olivia]

And I mix the.

[Ben]

Bake it at night, rise during the while you sleep.

[Olivia]

Sleep, Yep.

[Ben]

Wake up, put in the fridge, and until it's ready to bake. You could just bake it straight.

[Olivia]

You could. But I find it's. It's a much better like when you bake from cold sometimes. Especially when it's been sitting out like that.

[Ben]

Yeah.

[Olivia]

Because one, it's easier to score and two, it's sort of like I noticed with sourdough, like, what it needs to do is like, it sort of needs to go through different journeys. You know, you can't just be like. And. And I've cooked the same days or baked the same day sourdough, and it's turned out great. But I have like, different method. Like, if I'm doing the overnight, I wouldn't do the same day. I would put in the fridge for a little and then bake. I would bake it Even like three hours and later, you know, like, not. It doesn't have to be like a three day ordeal, but, like, you learn the biggest thing is also, like, what works for you in the temperature of your own home with your things. So, like, for example, Claudia had gotten me this amazing KitchenAid stand mixer, and that's what I use to mix my bread. My bowl is metal and it makes my dough so cold. And I live in Florida where it's hot outside. So, like, my situation is very different than somebody like you, where maybe you don't have a metal bowl and you live in New York and the temperature is like 20 degrees.

[Jackie]

Cool.

[Olivia]

Do you know what I mean? Like, everything, or maybe you keep your house a little. Everything is so fluid. So that's why everybody's you. You can obviously take inspiration from a lot of different sourdough folks, but at the same time, your sourdough journey is seriously going to be unique to you and the environment in which you live.

[Ben]

It will. It will. Absolutely.

[Olivia]

Yes.

[Ben]

Well said. What's your favorite thing to cook these days?

[Olivia]

Ooh, what a great question. Honestly, like, I just, I just love dinner time. Like, I just love making dinner for the family. Like, it's seriously my favorite. I love that, like, we, we grew up this way and it's like such an important part of our family, my family, like, just dinner together every night and as many people at the table as possible. So I just love. And my kids see the heart and soul that I pour into the meal. I just love dinner.

[Ben]

Yeah, I do, too.

[Olivia]

Dinner is everything to me, and I.

[Ben]

Love cooking for people. I think we share that.

[Olivia]

I do, too.

[Ben]

It's like, people come in and they're like, can I help? I'm like, get the fuck out of the kitchen.

[Olivia]

No, totally.

[Ben]

I don't want your help.

[Olivia]

100%. I appreciate, appreciate the offer, 100%. Especially because. Especially when you know what you're cooking and you have a certain thing in mind, it's like, then just get out of it. Let me do my thing.

[Ben]

It's also just like, at least for me, I really do take such attention to detail when it comes to everything. Like, even my salads, every single ingredient is chopped the exact same size. I like when my lettuce is stringy as opposed to thick. There's just specifics in the way that I cook, and I want to eat what I Cook.

[Olivia]

Yeah, 100%.

[Ben]

That's why everybody's always like, oh, isn't it a lot cooking? Because during the summer, I'm literally the Private chef for the house.

[Olivia]

Yeah. 100%.

[Ben]

Cook dinner for. Ate every night. I love it. I love it because then I get to eat the meal that I want.

[Olivia]

Right. 100%.

[Ben]

When somebody else cooks, I have to eat their meal.

[Olivia]

Right. No, I totally get that.

[Ben]

So I absolutely love that.

[Olivia]

I do agree with that wholeheartedly.

[Ben]

What do you think is the best thing that I've made?

[Olivia]

I mean, you make a lot of delicious things. I just feel like even the other day you made a salad, and it was just lettuce, tomato red onion, parmesan. And I was like, ooh, Ben, did you put a little lemon juice with salt? You do have an attention to detail. Your food is always very fresh. You make delicious grilled chicken. You make delicious brisket. The only things that I personally don't like that you make are, like, when I see how much mayo you're putting in stuff.

[Ben]

Totally.

[Olivia]

Then I'm just like, this is not for me.

[Ben]

You're not a heavy mayo, heavy.

[Olivia]

You're an amazing rice. Like, you make delicious food, you know?

[Ben]

Thank you.

[Olivia]

It's just always like. And I believe that that is what the fundamentals of a good meal are.

[Ben]

Yeah.

[Olivia]

Protein, starch, veg, salad, you know, and it's like you just make one of each of those every night. And it's like, people, I think, are always so worried about. About, like, composing a dish. Like, yeah. And it's like, cook a piece of chicken, make a sweet potato, steam a broccoli, make a bad salad, and you got yourself, like, people are always like, how do you do these dinners? And, like, I do so many shortcuts, but I, like, really believe in just sort of, like, elevating the basics.

[Ben]

Yeah.

[Olivia]

Where it's like. Yeah. Like, I have no problem. Like, just like, the lettuce is cut already. Do you know what I mean? Throw it in the bowl, make it look nice.

[Ben]

Totally. But do not give me a piece of chicken and a string bean. You need variety at a table.

[Olivia]

Yes.

[Ben]

And you do that always.

[Olivia]

I'm a big.

[Ben]

You need a bunch of things to pull from. And most importantly, the biggest hack is fucking salt and pepper.

[Olivia]

Yeah.

[Ben]

Use salt and pepper.

[Olivia]

Garlic powder, onion powder.

[Ben]

Like, use it on salad, Liv. Like, people don't do that. Salt and pepper on salad with lemon juice. That's what took that salad from a mundane salad to a great salad.

[Olivia]

It was so delicious.

[Ben]

Salt and pepper.

[Olivia]

Like, use it 100%. No, I love that. I do agree. I also think the other thing, too, is, like, people are always like, wow, you cook like, so much food. And it's like. I'm sorry. Like, people are always coming in and out of my house. I have a family to feed. Breakfast, lunch, and dinner. Like, I love. I don't mind having leftovers in my fridge for a day or two. It's amazing having extra grilled chicken in the fridge. It's amazing having sweet potatoes or rice. Like, it's so great. Like, it's almost like inadvertent meal prep. It's like, I. Of course, I make way more food than the people that are sitting at the table. 100%. It's like one. One job. Like, you. You know, what's the phrase? But it's like, build once, run everywhere, like, that sort of thing.

[Ben]

You also have a husband that eats for three, which is great. They're like, there's four people here. No, there's actually seven, which is great.

[Jackie]

So true.

[Ben]

Yeah. So, like. No, that's also. Sorry. Another pet peeve. And then, sadly, we're gonna have to wrap it up.

[Olivia]

No, I know. It's so sad.

[Ben]

I know. It's so fun. But another pet peeve is if I'm coming over to your house and there's eight people, and you made eight pieces of chicken.

[Olivia]

No. Not okay.

[Ben]

That's not okay.

[Olivia]

Of all.

[Ben]

Never run out of anything.

[Olivia]

I agree.

[Ben]

Nothing.

[Olivia]

I agree.

[Ben]

You can't run out of anything.

[Olivia]

Agree.

[Ben]

You have leftovers. No problem. Put them in.

[Olivia]

And by the way, if you're, like, in our house, it's like, it's eight people and then four kids. Like, that's at least 12 pieces of chicken, even if the kids are not eating a full bread. But, like, you have to account for, like, every mouth, especially with protein.

[Ben]

Like, if you're gonna run out of a side. Okay. You can't run out of the main.

[Olivia]

I agree.

[Ben]

You cannot. Totally agree. I should be able to eat as much.

[Olivia]

I'm always actually, like, very much overdoing it. But, like, I. 100. By the way, before we wrap up, we have to do Queenie and Weenie.

[Ben]

Yes. Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. Who. Who is your. Okay, Queenie? And we need the week.

[Olivia]

Yeah.

[Ben]

People that we love? People that we hate or things that we love? Things that we hate.

[Olivia]

Okay, My Queenie, this is, like, such a lame answer, but I'm sorry. It's obviously gonna be Jackie and Claudia. I feel like we have to give them their props. Like, they. They gave us this platform to just, like, spew for the last hour. We've obviously had the best time, but they're just. They're so beautiful, stunning, and smart, and I love them so much. So they will always be my queens. They're my queens. I. Every week, you know?

[Ben]

Yes, they are. They are.

[Olivia]

Would you have the same answer?

[Ben]

I would have the same answer. I think we're gonna share a queenie. I was gonna make it my wife and I think I should also make it Jackie. Totally, totally love that they kill it. And, like, they're.

[Olivia]

And we love them so much, but.

[Ben]

Like, they have, like, such a huge platform and work so hard, but are also such dedicated moms. Totally. Like, people don't get to see that side of them 100%, but they really are unbelievable moms. As are you.

[Olivia]

Yeah. But they also built an amazing community. Like, whenever I, like, meet toasters in the wild, it's always just, like, the best of humankind, 100%, you know, everything they to is just like, no, they're fabulous.

[Ben]

They're so unbelievably sweet. I'll do my weenie.

[Olivia]

Okay?

[Ben]

My weenie is the fucking Tesla. Okay, look, I've already spoken at length about how the Tesla runs out of charge. You guys have heard that. Whatever. I think there's a new setting where I now need to swipe up to go into drive and down to go into reverse.

[Olivia]

Yeah.

[Ben]

And let me tell you, we were fine with buttons. Okay? We were fine with buttons. We were fine with keys. We were fine with keys. I don't want to have to find my magic key card that then goes in a magic place on the side of the Tesla to open it. God forbid I left my wallet somewhere. I can't even turn on my fucking car. All of a sudden, I go to turn on the car. Liv, you can't turn on the car without putting your foot on the brake. You put your foot on the brake, you put a key in a specific place. This is unbelievable.

[Olivia]

I am not a Tesla driver or owner. I'm team Hyundai, so I'm. Button keys. So here. All of that.

[Ben]

Out, out.

[Olivia]

I love that.

[Ben]

And did you see? They just. I mean, this is not really. I mean, it is a story. I'm not commenting if it's a weenie or queenie. Elon Musk got approved for a trillion dollar payout.

[Olivia]

I saw.

[Ben]

Oh, my God. What do you do with a trillion dollars?

[Olivia]

I mean, I don't know.

[Ben]

You buy a country or, like, more.

[Olivia]

Rocket ships and stuff, I guess. How much, like, do those things cost? Like a rocket ship?

[Ben]

I'm not.

[Olivia]

I mean, I'm not like, actually builds.

[Ben]

A maybe like 50 million.

[Olivia]

Community.

[Ben]

Does that sound like Mars? 100 million. 100 million.

[Olivia]

100 million for a rocket ship. I mean, it sounds about right.

[Ben]

I read some statistic that if you made $10,000 a day since the day that Jesus Christ was born, you still wouldn't have as much money as Elon Musk's current net worth.

[Olivia]

Wow.

[Ben]

10 grand a day since Jesus.

[Olivia]

I wanted to. When was Jesus born?

[Ben]

A long time ago, Liv. Don't ask me for specifics. I don't know the answer. Something.

[Olivia]

We're Jewish.

[Ben]

We got. Yeah, yeah.

[Olivia]

Who's my weenie? I don't really know. I mean, I guess it's those motherfuckers that rob the Louvre and. Or the museum employee that made the password Louvre.

[Ben]

Like, totally not.

[Olivia]

Like, just like the. The. Some dumb aspects of society, generally speaking, would be weenie for me. Maybe 100%, you know, like, get it together. It's kind of like what we were saying before. Like, we're so advanced and we're so behind. Get it together. Figure it the fuck out. Like, that mentality is weenieism to me.

[Ben]

Figure it the fuck out, folks. Follow Olivia on social.

[Olivia]

Totally follow Ben on social. He's a celebrity chef.

[Ben]

Follow me on social. Go to spritsociety.com, check out our stuff. Listen to the Good Guys podcast. It's absolutely fantastic.

[Olivia]

It is. It's fantastic.

[Ben]

It's fantastic.

[Olivia]

I'm so proud of you, Ben. You're just so wonderful.

[Ben]

Thank you, darling. You are too. And, folks, this episode has been unbelievable. Give them five stars. Give us five stars. I'm doing the outro. Like, it's Good Guys. Otherwise. What are you, nuts? Listen to us. We're wherever you get your podcast. Watch us on YouTube, share our clips there on Instagram and TikTok. Mondays, Tuesdays, Wednesdays, Thursdays and Fridays, folks. Every day. These women are unbelievable. Every single day. You can listen to the toast. Have a great day. Love ya.

[Olivia]

Bye.

[Ben]

Bye.

[Olivia]

I actually think that that was better than their outro. That was fabulous.

[Ben]

Wow. Tell Claude.

[Olivia]

I will.

[Ben]

Cause we're still live hot m.