Turdy, BSC and Clarice: Monday, November 24th, 2025

Summary

The Toast – “Turdy, BSC and Clarice: Monday, November 24th, 2025”

Hosts: Claudia Oshry & Ben Soffer (Claudia’s husband, subbing in for Jackie)
Episode Date: November 24, 2025

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Episode Overview

This Monday episode of The Toast is a Thanksgiving special, leaning heavily into family, food, and holiday pop culture. With Jackie on maternity leave, Claudia is joined by her husband Ben Soffer (aka BSC, from The Good Guys podcast). The duo banter about Thanksgiving traditions, the foods they love (and hate), TV and movie marathons, pop culture news, and their signature playful arguments. The “Fast Five” stories cover everything from rumored celebrity weddings to holiday events and viral reality TV news—with the classic irreverent Toast humor and plenty of pop culture hot takes.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Thanksgiving Spirit and Family Traditions

[00:03–03:51]

• The episode opens with Claudia celebrating the “Monday before Thanksgiving” and emphasizing the importance of family during the holidays.
• Ben recounts making an enormous Thanksgiving turkey, sparking playful debate over food waste, leftover creativity, and how their home smelled like turkey for days.
  • Claudia: “I liked it when it was just a turkey. Yeah. But then it was a turkey that became turkey soup, turkey stock, turkey salad, turkey pot pie...” (02:24)
  • Ben: “I made a £20. Gorgeous bird. This bird was moist, yet the skin was crackly… a dream bird.” (01:38)
• Both admit to not actually loving Thanksgiving turkey, preferring other meats or modern “Thanksgiving” twists.

2. Sharing Interests: Movie and TV Marathons

[03:51–10:32]

• Claudia and Ben talk about sharing their favorite franchises; Claudia got Ben to watch Twilight, Ben tried to convert her with Harry Potter (Claudia: “I watched, like, four or five movies… once you’ve seen one you’ve kind of seen them all.” [04:30])
• A first-ever viewing of Pirates of the Caribbean leads to an extended, hilarious breakdown:
  • Claudia was underwhelmed, especially once it got magical: “They’re pirates but also ghosts? That’s really where they lost me.” (06:44)
  • Ben reminisces about listening to the instrumental theme song to “look cool” while playing basketball as a kid.
  • Extended, funny debate about whether it’s pronounced “Pirates of the Caribbean” or “Pirates of the Caribbean.” [08:31]

3. Embracing the Holiday Energy

[10:32–12:29]

• Claudia encourages listeners to really “acknowledge the space that you’re in” and appreciate the holidays as they start.
  • Ben: “Close your eyes and look around.” [11:10] (Claudia: “No, I meant, close your eyes and think!”)
• Quick reflections on gratitude and playful acknowledgements of each other's “beautiful”/“gorgeous” vocabularies.

4. Pop Culture News: The Fast Five Stories

Story 1: Taylor Swift & Travis Kelce’s Rumored Wedding Venue

[20:18–26:54]

• News breaks that Taylor Swift will marry Travis Kelce at her “Holiday House” in Rhode Island, not a local fancy venue as rumored.
  • Claudia details the viral story of a bride being “bought out” of her date by Swift’s team, sparking speculation.
  • Ben: “Taylor dreams of being fully surrounded by flowers… that I actually believe because that’s exactly what their engagement looked like.” [26:36]
• Fun riffing on logistics, celebrity wedding trends (destination weddings vs. home), and the culture of packing star-studded guest lists.

Story 2: Macy’s Thanksgiving Day Parade Lineup

[27:03–29:42]

• A look ahead to the parade: Cynthia Erivo, Busta Rhymes, and others highlighted (but Claudia is mostly excited for Cynthia). Both agree most parades/national events are best watched on TV.
  • Claudia: “If you’re ever watching and wishing you were there, don’t.” (29:27)

Story 3: Ben’s Childhood Mugging & DIY Self-Defense

[32:13–34:57]

• A tangent about being bullied/mugged as a child—Ben shares a story of being mugged by “a six-foot-three girl from the wrong part of town” [32:23].
• Ben’s adult strategies for “not getting mugged” (“fake phone call,” “beeline for a grocery store”) are discussed, with laughter about his “bad ideas” (like a rearview camera hat for city walking).

Story 4: Amanda Bynes & Dan Schneider Rumor Debunked

[35:15–38:54]

• Claudia covers Amanda Bynes’ public denial of viral AI-generated rumors alleging misconduct by Nickelodeon producer Dan Schneider. Both note the growing issue of AI fakes, especially on platforms “for old people, like Facebook.”
  • Short sidebar: Ben tries to explain the Cameo v. OpenAI lawsuit, leading to Claudia googling and clarifying the actual legal issue around the term “Cameo.” (38:03–38:54)

Story 5: Reality TV—Jen Shah’s Prison Release

[45:39–49:48]

• News that Real Housewives of Salt Lake City’s Jen Shah will be out of prison for the holidays.
• Both hosts vehemently criticize Shah’s crimes (targeting the elderly and disabled), comparing her situation to other reality TV stars who went to prison (e.g., Teresa Giudice, the Chrisleys), and express skepticism about Bravo featuring her return.

Bonus: Heinz “Moist Maker” Condiment for Thanksgiving Leftovers (Friends tie-in)

[50:25–54:12]

• Heinz’s new bottled turkey gravy, inspired by “The Moist Maker” (the famous Friends Thanksgiving sandwich).
• Ben and Claudia joke about food innovations and branding, questioning which Friends actor would have been cheapest for a marketing tie-in.

5. Pop Culture Deep Dive: Friends Analysis

[54:12–56:04]

• Short nostalgic discussion about Friends characters (“Why did Joey get the spinoff?”), their own resemblances to characters (Ben claims he’s Chandler, Claudia is Monica; “which I hate because I hate Monica”).

6. Host Banter: Classic Claudia & Ben

Throughout

• Light marital ribbing (“You are so annoying.” [32:07]) and inside jokes (“Close your eyes and look around!”), plus views on “crime etiquette,” friendship (Pete Alonso stories) and failed entrepreneurial ideas.
• Playful call-backs and absurd humor—e.g., the invented code words “BSC and Clarice” becoming episode catchphrases.

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Memorable Quotes & Moments

• Claudia (on turkey leftovers): “It was a turkey that became turkey soup, turkey stock, turkey salad, turkey pot pie.” (02:24)
• Ben (on their turkey): “This bird was moist, yet the skin was crackly… this bird was a dream bird.” (01:38)
• Claudia (on Pirates of the Caribbean): “They’re pirates, but also ghosts. Like, that’s really where they lost me.” (06:44)
• Ben (repeatedly): “Close your eyes and look around.” (11:10, 31:55, 56:11) — running joke
• Ben (on being mugged): “By a girl. Okay? She was 6’3” and like, from the wrong part of town.” (32:23)
• Claudia (on Macy’s Parade): “If you’re ever watching and wishing you were there, don’t.”
• Ben: “You could have gotten Joey [from Friends] for a nickel.” (53:56)
• Claudia: “I am Monica. Which makes sense, because… yeah, I’m like a nut job. And the thing is—I hate Monica. So do I hate myself?” (56:02)

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Notable Timestamps

• 00:03–01:12 – Opening theme, Thanksgiving family theme intro
• 01:28–02:41 – “Weenie of the week” ribbing and recounting turkey leftovers
• 03:53–04:50 – Sharing fandoms: Twilight, Harry Potter, and movie compromises
• 05:52–07:13 – Pirates of the Caribbean first-time watch debrief
• 10:32–12:29 – “Acknowledge the space you’re in”; holiday gratitude moment
• 20:18–26:54 – Taylor Swift/Travis Kelce wedding rumors, pop culture impact
• 27:03–29:42 – Macy’s Thanksgiving Day Parade coverage
• 32:13–32:50 – Ben’s childhood mugging story
• 35:15–38:54 – Amanda Bynes rumor, AI deepfakes, Cameo lawsuit
• 45:39–49:48 – Jen Shah’s prison release, reality TV justice debates
• 50:25–54:12 – The Heinz “Moist Maker” (Friends) bottle bit
• 54:12–56:04 – Friends spinoff analysis; who they are in the Friends cast

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Tone & Style

The episode is fast, irreverent, laden with pop culture references, and peppered with the hosts’ unique marital banter. Claudia’s humor is dry and hyper-aware, Ben is affable and self-deprecating. Listeners get both actual news and playful, sometimes meandering sidebars—making it feel like a very “real life” hangout as much as a podcast.

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For Listeners Who Haven’t Tuned In

This episode is a great reflection of The Toast holiday vibe: pop culture breakdowns, relatable family chaos, trending stories, and snarky takes—delivered by a married duo with endless chemistry and no shortage of hot takes on food, TV, and the oddities of modern internet culture. If you want a hilarious yet homey take on Thanksgiving week (with a side of Taylor Swift and Friends lore), this one delivers.

Transcript

[A]

Good morning, girlies. It's the toast. It's Jackson Claude and we're your host. It's your favorite show. The best five things you need to know. We'll start your day off. Swirly. It's the toast. They sound amazing. Welcome back to the toast and happy Monday. Today's a very special Monday because it's the Monday before Thanksgiving. It is the one of two episodes we are releasing this week. Just so you know. Programming update. We are off starting Wednesday for Thanksgiving and I'm joined by someone I'm extremely thankful for. It's my husband. Hello, Ben.

[B]

Hello, darling. I'm incredibly thankful for you as well, all of our beautiful listeners and by our listeners and your listeners.

[A]

Okay, relax.

[B]

Okay. I was literally fixing it. Relax, relax.

[A]

I'm relaxed. I'm so chill.

[B]

Cool. Yeah. So thankful for all of you. So thankful for this life that we have.

[A]

Amen. Amen.

[B]

For God above ground, below God is good in my heart.

[A]

Oh, please. Ben, it's perfect that you're here. One because it's Thanksgiving. The theme of today's, you know, and this week's co hosts, family. Thanksgiving is time for family.

[B]

It is.

[A]

So it's only appropriate that you're here. Also, unbeknownst to me, I'm like promoting the good guys so much. Josh was on Friday. You're here today. But I really kind of did need you here because not only am I sitting down with like award winning podcaster and chef Ben Safer, I'm also sitting down with the weenie of the week from last week.

[B]

You are?

[A]

Do you know you were weenie of the week? Did you watch?

[B]

I did. It was. It was incredibly rude.

[A]

Although not inaccurate.

[B]

No, not inaccurate. Look, I made a Thanksgiving turkey. Now let me tell you, not only did I make a turkey, I made a £20. Gorgeous bird. This bird was moist, yet the skin was crackly. The. This bird was a dream bird. And then because we are no waste.

[A]

I'm like a bird. I want to fly away. I don't know where my soul is. I don't know where my home is but baby, all I read we need for you to be I want to fly away.

[B]

It was so good. And let me tell you, because I don't waste. Okay. By the way, you loved it. I have a video by the way of her saying that she loved it.

[A]

Okay. I liked it when. When it was just a turkey. Yeah. But then it was a turkey that became turkey soup, turkey stock, turkey salad, turkey pot pie.

[B]

Everybody's always asking Ben, what do you.

[A]

Do with the fidge.

[B]

You just throw it away. No, no, I'm resourceful.

[A]

You don't throw it away.

[B]

I'm resourceful. I basically compost.

[A]

You don't. You don't throw it away.

[B]

I have a compost.

[A]

Did you not throw away, like, half a turkey pot pie today?

[B]

No, not at all. I ate it. I ate it. By the way, this is literally the best freaking turkey pot pie. Literally. Ever follow that recipe?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I made a turkey into a turkey stock into a turkey soup into turkey.

[A]

Salad in the house into a turkey pot pie. The house smells.

[B]

It no longer smells. But Romeo did really smell like turkey. Like, that's really when I realized, okay, this has seeped into everything. I picked up Romeo to give him a kiss. I'm like, oh, yeah, turkey.

[A]

Did you experience what I've been experiencing? Yes.

[B]

And here's the thing. I don't like Thanksgiving turkey. I've gone on record saying it's incredibly overrated, which is why I wanted to get it out of the way. Then on Thanksgiving, we can just eat deli turkey.

[A]

Did you hear Josh say that, like, he makes a turkey, but everybody eats steak? Like, that's his ideal Thanksgiving. I never heard of that.

[B]

Is it he makes the turkey?

[A]

No, it's like, at his Thanksgiving dinners, it's like you do the turkey for, like, the festive reasons. Like, there's also steak, and everybody eats.

[B]

You know, it just. It just makes sense.

[A]

I like the roast chicken.

[B]

Modernizing. Modernizing the event.

[A]

Well, today's episode is going to be extremely Thanksgiving. Coated our story are Thanksgiving. We're gonna be talking a lot about food, but I also, like, kind of need to talk about something that happened to us this weekend.

[B]

Yes, yes.

[A]

So, like, Ben and I are always kind of, you know, sharing our interests with one another. I shared my interest with him. That was Twilight. He watched all the movies. And be honest, you adored them.

[B]

I adored them also because you loved them.

[A]

Oh, stop.

[B]

I love that you liked it. You liked it, only you were the same.

[A]

So when I was pregnant, Ben, like, forced me to watch all the Harry Potter movies.

[B]

Like, I want to, like. I want people to guess. Just go, guess what? I'm gonna, like, sing a little bit of it, you know?

[A]

Okay, okay, okay. So when I was pregnant, Ben had been for years begging me. Like, his favorite franchise is Harry Potter, and so he's begging me to watch it.

[B]

My favorite, but a very good one.

[A]

And I watched, like, four or five movies, and I didn't dislike it at all. I didn't need to see all of them. Like, once you've seen one, you've kind of seen them all.

[B]

You saw five.

[A]

I've seen a lot.

[B]

Yeah, you really liked it, by the way. I won't give credit to the fact that you watch 15 hours of Harry Potter. You're like, it was kind of good.

[A]

The first movie was insanely amazing.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

There was, like, one that wasn't my favorite. That was like, the fifth.

[B]

And then you were just over.

[A]

No, just after five. It's like, how many times do I need to watch Harry, like, do the same thing?

[B]

Yeah, no, that's true.

[A]

Actually. The one Harry does this, the one where they're, like, time travelers and they're, like, watching themselves, like, run across that hill. I like that one.

[B]

Yeah. Pretty good.

[A]

And he's always begging me to watch Batman. I refuse to give in to that one.

[B]

So good.

[A]

But he did suggest on Saturday night that we watch. That wasn't great, but keep going. Yeah, that's right. I feel like.

[B]

Am I gonna turn to a mimi again?

[A]

I feel like singing the Pirates. I think you're singing, like, Game of Thrones.

[B]

No, it just sounds similar. By the way, did Game of Thrones.

[A]

It's in a tribulation. It's an interpolation. But wait, I still think he's done you guys. We watched Pirates of the Caribbean, if that's not clear. Oh, I've never seen it.

[B]

It was so good when I was 11. It was so fine last night.

[A]

So I know that it's like, you know, the franchise that launched Orlando Bloom's career. I know it's, like, Johnny Depp's biggest thing. I know people are obsessed with it. Dr. Jack Sparrow, Dr. Captain. And when Ben was trying to convince me to watch it, he, like, I think you'll really like it. He's like, it's like old and British. Like, it's kind of like the crown.

[B]

And I was like, it has elements of the crown.

[A]

I thought it was, like, treasure hunters. So I'm like, wait, it's the crown. And you know what? In the beginning of the movie, before the pirates show up, and it's just like this clearly, like, British territory in the Caribbean. I'm like, you know what? Everybody's wearing, like, wigs and hats. It is kind of like the crown.

[B]

Thank you.

[A]

But then once, like, the pirates from the Caribbean show up, like, it's no longer, like, the crown. Let me tell you, it really was not good.

[B]

You really liked it until you.

[A]

No, no. By the way.

[B]

That the pirates never die well.

[A]

So, yeah. I was not, like, loving.

[B]

We have to spoiler no 40 year old movie.

[A]

Well, people on the Internet are always like, you spoiled it. Like, it came out 40 years ago. But okay, now I wasn't really liking the movie at any point, but it was, like, silly and fun and whatever. It was cool to see Kira Knightley being, like, so pretty. And then when, like, the magical realism entered, it's like, they're pirates, but also ghosts. Like, that's really where they lost me. It was just like a little. Oh, and by the way, so confusing. The whole movie, like, did not need.

[B]

To be so confusing back on it. The pirate ghost thing was a bit unnecessary. The Curse of the Black Pearl. Yeah, but Will Turner. Fantastic. Oh, and like, Jack Sparrow. Fantastic.

[A]

Orlando Bloom is, like, ugly in it. I just. I don't know, I wasn't. I wasn't dazzled by it. It was also weird because Keira Knightley's literally 17 when she films this movie. It's, like, so inappropriate. It was just weird. Like, and I don't know, I guess, like, Jack Sparrow is supposed to be this, like.

[B]

Like when you were a kid, hilarious and sick.

[A]

Did you think Jack Sparrow was, like, the circus?

[B]

Yeah. And I literally told you I love that movie so much that I downloaded the theme song.

[A]

So after. After we watch a movie, Ben's like, humming the theme song. I'm like, yeah, it's like, catchy. He's like, no, you don't understand. Like, I had it downloaded on my ipod and, like, I used to listen to it. I'm like, you would listen to an instrumental theme song. I'm like, doing what? He was like, like playing basketball. So I just am like, I had so many questions. I'm like, so you're walking around because Ben grew up in the city. So you're walking around the city?

[B]

No, I was 100% at a gym. I have. I have this, like, memory seared into my brain. I don't know how old I was. I couldn't have been that old. Actually. Maybe I could have. I don't know. I was listening to the instrumental theme song, shooting hoops, headphones in. Everybody probably thought that I was listening to, like, some, like, cool rap thing, like Drake.

[A]

But you're listening to me.

[B]

I'm listening to Pirates of the Caribbean.

[A]

Okay, now here's the other question.

[B]

Are you gonna say Caribbean?

[A]

Pirates of the Caribbean.

[B]

Caribbean.

[A]

Pirates of the Caribbean.

[B]

It's not Caribbean, it's Caribbean.

[A]

Okay, but if you're going on a trip to the Caribbean, I'm going. Or The Caribbean.

[B]

To the Caribbean.

[A]

I'm going to the Caribbean. But Pirates of the Caribbean makes you think. I know.

[B]

It can't be Pirates of the Caribbean. That doesn't. That doesn't work. Pirates.

[A]

What are they on vacation? No, it's wrong.

[B]

No, it's wrong.

[A]

It just was good. Sorry. Like, you lose. It's good. And next up, next up, we have to watch something that I.

[B]

It's. That's literally all I do is watch something that you watch. Next up. That's literally just life. I distinctly remember that. The second Pirates of the Caribbean. Caribbean. Yeah, I remember that. The second Pirates of the Caribbean. Oh, the best one.

[A]

Oh my God, please don't get me started. Like with Harry Potter, you were like, wait, like the next one. It's like true.

[B]

No, but like, trust me, real ones.

[A]

No, it's the next one. It's like, well, if it's always the next one, like, maybe they're just all.

[B]

Not just second. It's like. You love Friends, by the way. I watch so much Friends for you and now you admit that it's not.

[A]

Even a for me. Ben, you liked it too.

[B]

I watch it for you.

[A]

You liked it too.

[B]

All of it.

[A]

You liked it too. And like, it's fun and it's fresh and it's harmless.

[B]

And when you watch like the first episode of Friends, you're like, this sucks. And then you get to like season two and that's where they really find their footing.

[A]

It sucks.

[B]

That's with all great shows.

[A]

It sucks.

[B]

Great movies. Great.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Captain Jack Sparrow.

[A]

I just know, like when you were like a kid, you thought he was like.

[B]

Have you ever noticed that like, I. I wear like a lot of like skull T shirts?

[A]

Oh my God, yes.

[B]

I love pirates.

[A]

Was that like your inspiration, by the way? We had dinner at your parents house over the weekend and your dad was wearing one of your skull shots.

[B]

My favorite thing is that clothing look. We all fluctuate.

[A]

Yeah, you and your dad really share it like a wardrobe. Because he's up, you're down, he's down, you're up.

[B]

So I walked into the house and he's wearing this gorgeous skull John Barbados shirt. I loved it. I haven't seen it in a decade.

[A]

Totally.

[B]

And that was so Jack Sparrows.

[A]

Totally. So you're here to join me today. I will say the stories are extremely Thanksgiving coded. Lots of food, lots of just like Thanksgiving fair. I just think we all need to acknowledge the space that we're in because I feel like always like throughout different times of the Year. We're all always, like, yearning for the holiday season. It's the best time of year. We get time off of work, we're with our family, we eat a lot. You know, holiday cheer, Christmas music. And it's, like, about to begin. Like, it begins now. And I just feel like, begins now in, like, two months, we're gonna be yearning, being like, oh, that was the best. And it won't. It'll be, like, 10 months until we have it again. So just in this moment, everybody, close your eyes. Look around. Acknowledge the space that you're in.

[B]

Close your eyes and look around.

[A]

Thanks.

[B]

This is me.

[A]

No, you totally got me there. Close your eyes, think and acknowledge his space that you're in. Okay. Happy Thanksgiving week to all who celebrate.

[B]

And don't forget to close your eyes and look around.

[A]

Thousand percent. Thousand percent. That one was my bad. Okay. I'll say. Anything else you need to, like, say before we dive in?

[B]

No. Big beautiful week.

[A]

Big, beautiful week. Big, beautiful Bill.

[B]

So thankful to be here.

[A]

I forget if I said this on the toast, but, like, I literally talk like Trump.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And so I found myself all the time being, like, big, beautiful.

[B]

Like, nobody says beautiful more than me.

[A]

Yeah, but you.

[B]

Oh, actually, I say gorgeous.

[A]

You overuse the word beautiful, too.

[B]

It's like, gorgeous.

[A]

You tell me I look beautiful, I'm like. But you also thought, like, the deli meat was beautiful.

[B]

Totally.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Sexualized me.

[A]

You say gorgeous. Yeah.

[B]

Because you're gay. Like, sexualize me.

[A]

You do. But you say gorgeous more than beautiful.

[B]

I say gorgeous more than beautiful. For sure.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

That is how I often describe food. Gorgeous.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And I call you beautiful as well. As well as a nice salami.

[A]

Yeah. You also call your dad beautiful.

[B]

He's beautiful.

[A]

Hi, beautiful. That's literally what you always say when you pick up the phone. Yeah.

[B]

I call beautiful things beautiful.

[A]

You're just a lover of beauty.

[B]

Isn't that just beautiful?

[A]

It's gorgeous.

[B]

It's gorgeous.

[A]

Yeah, it is. Well, Ben, I have a question for you.

[B]

What is it?

[A]

My God, why'd you go quiet?

[B]

You have a question? I have to say. What is it? I know what it is.

[A]

Oh, right. Are you ready?

[B]

Okay.

[A]

What are you gonna do? Like, the thing?

[B]

Why would I.

[A]

Also, I saw you, Joey Master, on your podcast on Friday. Like, you're copying me.

[B]

I think that I had him. No, you definitely had him before me.

[A]

I had him twice.

[B]

I love Joey.

[A]

I know.

[B]

He's great.

[A]

I know.

[B]

He said that we should start some sort of a cooking series together.

[A]

Oh, please. You're like, the king of, like, starting series and never ending them, by the way.

[B]

Never ending them or never starting them? Excuse me.

[A]

I wish.

[B]

I'll continue my turkey series then.

[A]

No, no, no.

[B]

I ended it.

[A]

That's not what I'm saying. Remember?

[B]

Absolutely. No problem.

[A]

Like, remember poor Pete Alonso? You made him film your Instagram series.

[B]

Yes. By the way, that was trial and error and it led to a podcast.

[A]

It did. It did. But he's such a good friend.

[B]

He really is. The fact.

[A]

That was, like, insanely nice of him.

[B]

I know. He's the best.

[A]

Totally.

[B]

This one came to my Zoom birthday party.

[A]

Oh, my God. Pete Alonso did come to your Zoom birthday party. During COVID We had, like, exactly what it sounds like. A Zoom.

[B]

He's literally the best friend.

[A]

Like, a Zoom birthday party. And he came.

[B]

Yes, I came to your toast. Anniversary.

[A]

Oh, he's seriously the best guy. Just, like, had to mention. Yeah, we're friends with Pete Alonzo of Mets fame. Ever heard of him? Yeah, yeah. Let me go into my calculator. I need to open up my timer at. Ben, are you ready for the Fast 5 stories?

[B]

You didn't even finish it.

[A]

No, that's what we say now.

[B]

Why are you looking at me like that, defeated?

[A]

Okay, Ben. Okay, you done fine. The best five stories that you need to know are brought to you by me and Ben's favorite new show, All Her Fault.

[B]

We binged it so good.

[A]

We binge it at Jackie's house, like, literally in two nights. Someone is guilty. No one is innocent. At the start of the new original Peacock limited series, All Her Fault, Marissa Irvine arrives to collect her young son Milo from his first playdate with a boy from school. But the woman who answers the door isn't a mother. Marissa recognizes she doesn't have Milo, and she's never heard of him. Every parent's worst nightmare begins as Marissa and her Peter husband, Peter, launch a desperate search for their missing son. New questions lead to deep secrets revealing cracks in the Irvine's seemingly perfect world. Marissa forms a close and unlikely allegiance with a new friend, Jenny Kaminsky, who is also entangled in Milo's disappearance. Together, they hunt for Milo, uncovering buried family secrets. And all they alter the curse. The course that alters alters the course of both of their lives forever. Let me tell you, you will laugh, you will cry. You will be hiding under your blanket. The guardian calls all her fault. Fantastically well done, you. Stars Sarah Snook and Jake Lacy as Marissa and Peter Irvine. Dakota Fanning is in it. She's Jenny Kaminsky and Michael Pena as a detective who will tuck at your heartstrings. He was definitely my like the best part of the show.

[B]

He was great. A son.

[A]

So cute. Clear schedule. You're going to want to binge every episode of the Certified Fresh limited series All Her Faults. Streaming now only on Peacock. I do feel like also this is going to be the show everyone's talking about at their Thanksgiving dinners.

[B]

Totally.

[A]

So you want to be left out. Just watch it. It's also so good. It's called All Her Fault and it's streaming only on Peacock. Today's episode of the Toast is brought to you by Caraway. I oddly feel like a lot of today's sponsors are extremely BSC coded and I did not plan it this way. Of course.

[B]

Ben, you want me to talk about them?

[A]

Makes my kitchen dirty every single day using his favorite caraway products. And I'm gonna say if you're gonna make a kitchen dirty, you got to do it with caraway. So holiday time is obviously a big cooking time. We're making big feasts, we're having people over, we're bringing gifts to their houses if they're coming, if they're the ones hosting. Well, with cozy season here, comfort food is calling everything from caraway. You just need like I'm not even going to point out single products. But like I love their peeler, obviously pots and pans, kitchenware, bakeware, all that stuff. But the things like you don't think about like their peeler is amazing, their cutting boards are fabulous. Super easy. Everything that caraway makes is easy cooking. It's their ceramic naturally slick surface means that minimal oil or butter are required for slide off the pan eggs. Easy cleaning, even somebody who like burns cheese for just fun. They're also well loved. Over a hundred thousand People have rated 5 stars about Caraway Kitchen. Now it's time to try it for yourself. With the season of joy being here, if you're making lots of food, if you're bringing something over their food storage, like everything you need. If whether you're hosting yourself or you're going to someone's house, the holidays are closer than ever. So get their gift or yours this time. Visit carawayhome.com toasters to take advantage of this limited time offer for up to 20 off your next purchase. Again, that's CarawayHome.com toasters to get new kitchenware before the holidays. Caraway. It's non toxic kitchenware and has it made. Oh yeah, that's right. It's Made modern. Real quick. What's your favorite caraway product?

[B]

Honestly, the. All of them. Like, okay, that's the color. It's the color.

[A]

The color. Yeah. We go for a sage green.

[B]

The beautiful green. Yeah. I love their pots and pans.

[A]

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[B]

Literally. My green glasses are Warby.

[A]

I know Ben's a big and I'm like always going to warby with you. Like he's like, sorry, can I go to Warby? Honestly, I feel like Warby people are like kind of culty. Like they're really serious about the brand.

[B]

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[A]

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[B]

That was like. That was like literally like a weird set of ads. Like they're me.

[A]

Yeah, I know. That's what I said. Today's ads are so you.

[B]

All of them. And the ones that I wear, I wear Warby. I take neutral. I use and I watched all her fault.

[A]

I know that actually is really spooky. Maybe it's because we're just so authentic.

[B]

It's possible.

[A]

Definitely. Okay, you ready for our first story? Not Thanksgiving themed but like huge news for annoying people like me. We have found out where Taylor Swift and Travis Kelsey are getting married. Now. I think a lot of people knew it was going to be in Rhode island where her big house is.

[B]

Never would have guessed because there was.

[A]

This like, okay, so I got like a bunch of DMS being like, you know, I'm giving you this exclusive and it was so funny. I Saw, like, literally, it was reported everywhere. But basically this girl claimed that she was getting married at Castle Hill or Ocean, one of those, like, really crazy Rhode island hotels. I think it's where Olivia Culpo got married to Christian McCaffrey. And she said she had her date there in June. And the venue called her and was like, you know, somebody wants this date for the wedding. They're offering to pay for your whole wedding to get the date.

[B]

Holy crap.

[A]

And everyone was like, well, it's obviously Taylor Swift. Oh. Because the date was June 13th, and she's like, Ms. 13. So the story, like, when.

[B]

Pause for a second. That is the dream for the girl. For the girl.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Who had that completely random date.

[A]

Yeah. She just chose a date and, like, Taylor Swift wanted it.

[B]

All of a sudden, Taylor Swift wanted it. So she's paying for her entire wedding.

[A]

Well, it was a rumor. Unclear if it was ever true. It was like this. But so everyone. Everyone was saying that, like, this story. I don't know if the girl ever came forward, but it was like, did you hear about the girl? She got called by the hotel. And I'm now feeling like it might have been true. But I think everybody thought that Taylor was going to get married there. But it's clear. Wants her guests to stay there because she's getting married.

[B]

She was buying at another girl's wedding just so other people.

[A]

So other people wouldn't be there. Because it's according to Page Six, Taylor Swift's Rhode island house, which is right by that hotel, is going to be the venue. Do you know that house? Okay. They picked out a home and called it Holiday House. It's her Rhode island house, which has been the scene of, like, so many iconic pop culture moments. So many pictures like that you would know happened at that house.

[B]

Oh, that, like, beachy house.

[A]

The beach house. It's huge.

[B]

Like, with, like, all those girls.

[A]

Yes, exactly.

[B]

The dillines and the dillines.

[A]

Yes. She also recently is, like, adding an extension to it. So it's like, one of her favorite houses. It's also one of her least private houses because it's on a public beach. And, like, there are so many pictures of it. So I find it shocking that that's where they're getting married. I'm sure they'll tent it and whatever, and it's going to be sick, but. So they're getting married at the house. It's a $17 million. Well, she bought it for $17 million. I wonder what it's worth now. And apparently that's the Venue. And I'm thinking her people are staying at the hotel. And that's what that story was about. This is the house, by the way, from an aerial view. It's sick.

[B]

That is a beautiful house.

[A]

No, it's insane. And it's in this, like a really exclusive part of Rhode Island. And do you know the song the Last Great American Dynasty? Yes, There goes the last Great American Dynasty. It's about that house. So the person, usually. You should actually listen to it.

[B]

I've heard the song. I just said I'd listen.

[A]

No, but like, listen.

[B]

No, no. So you mean read? Yeah, read, Got it.

[A]

Do you think you could do that?

[B]

Yeah, I'll close my eyes first. Just close your eyes and read.

[A]

You have all the money in the world, Ben. Where are you getting married? Honestly, such a slay. Like, you have all the money in the world, you're getting married at your house because it's nicer than anywhere. You get married.

[B]

Totally slay.

[A]

And you just know she's looking like a. Build it the fuck out.

[B]

That said Beverly Hills Hotel.

[A]

Totally buying it out.

[B]

Like, yeah, full buyout. I feel like not a single person.

[A]

So now it's clear that it's going to be a huge wedding, right? And I feel like there are so many questions around Taylor, like, is she still friends with X? There's so many theories, obviously about Blake Lively, about Kelly Taylor, but even like old friends, like Martha Hunt, like people. And I feel like this will be the definitive thing because it's not a tiny wedding. You could say, like, oh, well, Blake wasn't there, but it was only a 10 person wedding. It's clearly going to be a banger. And Taylor went on Graham Norton and was like, no, no, like, you're all invited. Like, it's going to be huge. She didn't invite. I know. I feel like if you're not there, like, that will be the official decree of whether Taylor's friends with these people, which I'm personally really excited about. I don't know, like I. I don't know what's good. Like, I feel like during the actual weekend, I just feel like I'm gonna be so overwhelmed. I feel like I'm just gonna need you.

[B]

Like, I'll be there.

[A]

No, it's just gonna be insane.

[B]

Go to Rhode Island.

[A]

Oh my God. Like you and everybody else. Even though I have a hard time believing that like, so in advance. Taylor's so crazy about like safety or whatever. Maybe this is not true.

[B]

It must not be true. It can't be true. It can't be. People know now they have so many months to plan. Like I'm talking about getting a boat and going out there with binoculars.

[A]

Right.

[B]

Ten months in advance and it's a public beach.

[A]

You just know that beach is going to be insane.

[B]

Yeah, I don't think.

[A]

Okay, this is what the source told Page Six.

[B]

The source?

[A]

She's planning to create a new garden on site for the wedding. They were initially considering considering tying the knot in Italy, but her house gives them more options for upcoming captual.

[B]

So I guess I've had enough of people getting married in Italy.

[A]

I agree.

[B]

So, like, you know how inconvenient it is for all of your guests. You don't think that they want it? I guess in like Taylor Swift's case, maybe she like charters like a 747 and like takes people there by herself. Like otherwise you're making people target to go to your wedding. Let people pay for their own vacations.

[A]

Well, Susie Weiss was on the podcast last week talking about like abolish the bachelorette party, which is like a mission.

[B]

That she very bad call.

[A]

No, but what she was saying is like, you can't expect people to take more than one flight for your nuptials. Like, if you have a travel wedding, that's fine then you know. But that clip went so viral. Like, don't we're so mad.

[B]

I don't agree with abolish the bachelor party. I do think that you should abolish the bachelor party after the age of 30. And I do think that we should really stop with these destination weddings.

[A]

Well, here, let me just give you more. What the what the insider is telling Page Six. They're allegedly prepared to spend over a million dollars on the landscaping alone, including gardeners, experts and added security to make sure the development stays hidden leading up to the big day. Because with drones like, it's over.

[B]

She reportedly wants million dollars on landscaping.

[A]

She reportedly wants red roses, hydrangeas, orchids and peonies planted on the property months in advance. The insider said she wants the entire celebration to feel like a wave of flowers with arrangements of white, purple and pink orchids, plus blue, white and pink hydrangeas and peonies in pink, white and red tones. I just feel like the person you know when you're lying and like you give too much detail. It's like a red flag. I just feel like now I believe nothing this source is saying.

[B]

Totally.

[A]

The singer also wants to gift all invited girlfriends a bouquet of red eternity roses.

[B]

According to the source, it's a Red Eternity Rose.

[A]

Venus of Fleur. Like the. The roses that laughs.

[B]

Like, like Peter.

[A]

Peter LaFleur Taylor dreams of being fully surrounded by flowers with luck. Well, that I actually believe because that's exactly what their engagement looked like. I just feel like this person looked at the engagement photos and it's just like literally making stuff up. Totally.

[B]

Like it could be true.

[A]

Well, this is just like personally for me. This is my Super Bowl.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And I'm really excited. Let me get a little Thanksgiving news. The Macy's thing. The Macy's Thanksgiving Day Parade.

[B]

Love. Except for when I go the Macy's.

[A]

Okay. We've. Okay. 20, 25. It's like a release. You just snored.

[B]

I don't know what that was. I wasn't even laughing.

[A]

A list of all the performers, the balloons, everything is here. Okay. Over 3 million people gather in New York City to watch a spectacle. And more than 31 million tuned in last year from the comfort of their own homes. It's a time honor tradition with live performances, balloons, etc. Etc. Here is who's going to be there.

[B]

Okay. Tell me.

[A]

Cynthia. Rivo.

[B]

That's amazing.

[A]

He's opening the festivities with the show stopping opening number, which I'm shocked by. I hope she'll be like, use the Rockettes. Meanwhile, Busta Rhymes will be making his Macy's Thanksgiving Broadway debut. Huge. Performing the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles Chocolate Factory float.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Huge. Huge for the kids. Hunter S slash X K Pop Demon Hunters. We're going up. Do you know that song? Other notable acts include Sierra, Mickey Guyton, Christopher Jackson, Jewel, Little John Cole in the Gang. Like, honestly, nobody worth tuning in for except Cynthia Revo. That's a huge get.

[B]

Huge get. And let me tell you, having been there before, it is a made for TV spectacular.

[A]

So we've been twice, right?

[B]

I think we've been once.

[A]

Okay, yeah, we went once. Not me. Getting ahead of myself.

[B]

We went once two years ago.

[A]

No, last year we went once.

[B]

Last year we.

[A]

I was pregnant and I was so sick.

[B]

It was 20 torrential rain and it was downpouring and we had probably like.

[A]

I don't think you could get better seats for the Thanksgiving Day Parade. Like.

[B]

Correct.

[A]

We were right behind Hoda. But the thing. But the thing about the Thanksgiving Day parade is like, it's best experience, like from an aerial view.

[B]

It's best experience from your own couch.

[A]

Yeah. And like, honestly, I was so tired. I was so pregnant. I wasn't even so pregnant. I was like first trimester, like gonna throw up.

[B]

They're just, like, certain things that are better on tv. The Macy's Day parade, the football game.

[A]

The super bowl halftime show, any golf event. Just, like, a fun fact about me is I've been to the Super Bowl.

[B]

You have.

[A]

And it was Justin Timberlake's here, which, like, maybe I'm just a hater, but he had his back towards me the whole time and I couldn't hear because, like, the microphone's, like, literally not plugged into the speaker because it's plugged into the tv. It's made for tv. It's really, like, not a good experience. So if you're ever, like, watching and wishing you were there, like, don't.

[B]

It's really not. And you don't want to go to the ball drop, watch it on tv.

[A]

That's a fun fact about me. I actually prefer to watch most things on tv.

[B]

Most things are made for tv.

[A]

Knicks games. Sorry. Made for tv. Made for tv. Bad call made for tv.

[B]

Basketball is actually the definition of something that isn't made for tv. Remember when we went to the NBA All Star game and saw the Killers? I showed my credential and we got thrown out.

[A]

Not only did we see the Thrillers Killers, we saw Fergie perform the national anthem, which I seriously don't talk about enough as, like, a pop culture expert. We were in the room looking at each other, being like, does this sound weird?

[B]

And it did.

[A]

Yeah. And we also got kicked out, but that was Ben's fault. Like, big. No, no. You know, what brand were we there with?

[B]

NBA. And TNT owes me an apology. I was literally just like, an excited.

[A]

No, NBA excited fan.

[B]

I'm sorry that I posted my credential.

[A]

Huge brand deal. I forgot how. We were, like, pretty young. It was our first time, like, going to the NBA All Star game. It was in la. We were so excited. We got these insane credentials. And Ben was just, like, excited. So he took a picture of his credential.

[B]

Excited. I felt like a Beverly Hillbilly. It was like, one of my first times in la in general. I'm like, oh, my God. This is like my big star moment. I tour with the NBA. Lifelong fan.

[A]

It was huge.

[B]

I get to work with the NBA on tnt. The Killers are performing. I get to interview all the players. All this stuff. Oh, my God, I can't wait to show all my followers that I have credentials. It's so cool. Literally, one minute later.

[A]

Deactivated.

[B]

Deactivated. You are now sitting in section 300. How the could you show your credential?

[A]

Yeah, because I got so much trouble. It was an important lesson, though, you know, you can't take a picture of your credentials.

[B]

Who knew? I guess. But, like, I was just too excited. That's at the Killers. How good were they?

[A]

Yeah, we did see the Killers live. They had, like a NBA on tnt. Like, after show.

[B]

Yeah, with the halftime show of what, the NBA All Star Game?

[A]

Yeah, I guess. Yeah, it was. We were outside.

[B]

I don't know. But that was really cool.

[A]

Yeah, it was. And we saw Fergie.

[B]

Oh, by the way, NBA and TNT lost their contract, so. Sucks to suck.

[A]

Oh, so it's not NBA and TNT anymore?

[B]

No, now it's NBC.

[A]

NBA on NBC. Yeah, that's right.

[B]

And that's what they get. Karma. Ten years later, karma.

[A]

Who are you most excited to see at the Macy's Thanksgiving Day Parade? One thing about me, I just want.

[B]

To say I love the area.

[A]

I love the parade.

[B]

The parade is amazing. It's so fun to park.

[A]

I literally wake up early. It reminds me of my childhood.

[B]

Like, I have to wake up early.

[A]

We're up.

[B]

We're.

[A]

Hurry up. Before the parade.

[B]

I'll blow up the floats.

[A]

What?

[B]

I'll blow up the floats. I'll blow up the floor.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

I'll go down and blow them up.

[A]

I'll close my eyes and look around.

[B]

I was gonna say it.

[A]

No, we're. Seriously. I used to, like, have to set an alarm, but now. Yeah, we'll be up for, like, about an hour.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

6. Why are you talking like that? Are you okay?

[B]

So annoying.

[A]

Do you need your water?

[B]

You're so annoying. You are so annoying.

[A]

You are.

[B]

What are you doing?

[A]

I know you are, but what am I? Remember that?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I know you are, but what am I?

[B]

I know you are, but what am I?

[A]

Do you ever get bullied growing up?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Really?

[B]

I was mugged.

[A]

Okay. That's not bullied. I do know you mugged, by the.

[B]

Way, by a girl. Okay. She was 63 and, like, from the wrong part of town. Okay. Like, this one.

[A]

Got mugged for. So they were wearing yamaka. She was like an anti Semitic mugger. And she also was a girl.

[B]

She was 63 and from the wrong part of town.

[A]

Oh, my God. Yeah. I feel like we told the story of you getting mugged in high school. Middle school.

[B]

Middle school. I was 13.

[A]

I think we told it a while ago, but please say it again.

[B]

I was 13. We were leaving our yeshiva. We were wearing our yarmulkes and, like, matching. Like blue and blue. There was a dress code it was like light blue shirts, dark blue pants, just like walking to the movies, just being yourselves. And like this like big ass girl and like, like her two friends approaching like, give me your money.

[A]

And like, you love to see women in male dominated fields.

[B]

And like immediately I was like, okay. And like handed them literally your velcro wallet.

[A]

Like, what'd you give?

[B]

I don't even remember everything. Whatever I had mad, I gave them everything. No, but I was thrilled about. I'm like, take it. Yeah, take it and run. My stupid friend was like, now.

[A]

Oh God. Gotta be a hero. Who was it? Do I know him?

[B]

No, you don't.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

You don't know.

[A]

Yeah, just fun fact about Ben, he's been mugged.

[B]

I've been mugged. And that's how people who listen to the good guys know that I have developed a routine to make sure don't get mugged. One is a fake phone call. Two, if you see. But do you think that people who.

[A]

Are on the phone who can't be, can't get mugged?

[B]

Yes, it. It creates. We actually had recently on the good guys a CIA agent.

[A]

Oh yeah.

[B]

And we spoke to him about this and he said it's a really great tactic because it makes the mugger feel that they're no longer one. Yeah, no, I love no longer as vulnerable.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Because I'm on the phone.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And my thought was always, oh, oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Hi, police. Yeah, I'm on the phone with the cops. So why the fuck up?

[A]

So you just happen to be on the phone how. What are we coincidence that the minute you get mugged you'd happen to be on the phone with the cops?

[B]

No, it's normally like, hi, how are you? Oh, good to see you. Yeah, yeah, I'll see you soon. Yeah. Or beeline for like a grocery store.

[A]

Yeah. Or like a building with a doorman.

[B]

Yeah, that's good.

[A]

Living in New York City. So crazy, you guys.

[B]

It is. Remember I wanted to invent that app where you could see behind you. I loved that idea.

[A]

You mean a camera?

[B]

A little paranoid. Yeah, but it was, it was connected to an app. You like, put something like literally like on the back of like a hat or on your head. There's literally a camera behind you so you can see behind you just in case somebody's coming up to shiv you.

[A]

You've had a lot of bad ideas.

[B]

That one's like pretty decent.

[A]

It's fine.

[B]

The other idea, I shared the other idea with you. You flush the toilet, all of a sudden Febreze.

[A]

Genius. Yeah, I think it actually exists.

[B]

I don't know.

[A]

On like.

[B]

And if any toilet fuckers make it. Okay. And don't credit me. I'm gonna do nothing about it.

[A]

Who wants credit? We want money.

[B]

Totally. I would take credit.

[A]

Are you ready for our next story?

[B]

I am.

[A]

It's about your favorite girl, Amanda Bynes.

[B]

Love her.

[A]

So she has actually addressed the insane rumor that I have heard for years, which is that. No. Which is that the disgraced Nickelodeon producer Dan Schneider impregnated her when she was 13. So she denied the wild rumor. The alum told the Amanda show alum told TMZ that the viral video of her claiming Schneider impregnated her is digitally altered. Oh, I didn't know that. I just thought it was just a crazy thing she was saying amidst some sort of psychotic break. So Bynes, who's now 39, told the outlet that whoever made up the edited clip attempted to make up lies for Clickbait. Oh, that's terrible. I didn't know that. The. A fan account posted the now deleted video which showed a clip of former Nickelodeon star sitting alone at a restaurant. At the bottom of the clip was the text the man. I got pregnant with him at the age of 13. The video then cut to a scene of the Amanda show in which a bikini clad teenage Binds was in a hot tub with Dan Schneider, who was fully clothed. Yeah, I mean, just the fact that this is not true. Thank God. Doesn't mean he's not weird. Like, you will just not convince Creep. Obviously you will not convince me. Even all those things that like, like haven't aged well. Like, why is he in a hot tub with a little girl?

[B]

It was weird. It was very strange. But yeah, honestly, it's. This stuff is only going to get worse with AI.

[A]

I know. And I say this all the time on the toast because I'm like an extremely tech savvy person and I'm like very media literate. I'm very Internet literate.

[B]

Tell the difference.

[A]

I am always getting hoodwinked.

[B]

Me too.

[A]

Think of the old like geriatric person who's just like scroll. And it's really bad on Facebook. I feel like, I feel like where AI is the worst are also platforms geared more towards old people because like it's really bad on Facebook. I see so much fake news and Facebook is like for old people. They're really getting like, it's, it's a vulnerable community.

[B]

It's really scary. Did you see the Cameo lawsuit?

[A]

No.

[B]

Where they are cameo the app Cameo.

[A]

The Is getting sued or suing.

[B]

Is suing. I think they actually just won the suit against AI. Against OpenAI. Letting people like you can write in like make Kevin Hart say happy birthday to my friend Clarice. And that's their whole business.

[A]

Clarice?

[B]

Yeah, Clarice.

[A]

Why Clarice?

[B]

I don't know my friend Clarice.

[A]

Is Clarice even a name?

[B]

I think so.

[A]

I don't think it is.

[B]

Okay, can we get to the point?

[A]

No. By the way, not you teaching me something. I didn't know about that Cameo lawsuit. So what were they suing for?

[B]

Like. Like that? It's there a couple of things. One, that's their business model.

[A]

Yeah, but people are allowed to copy your business model.

[B]

Two, they didn't get any of the talents consent.

[A]

Well, yeah, Kevin Hart can sue.

[B]

It's I guess maybe Cameo suit on behalf of all of the people on Cameo.

[A]

Interesting.

[B]

And also protected their own business. I'm actually not sure.

[A]

I feel like you're making this up.

[B]

No, I didn't.

[A]

I'm going to Google Cameo AI lawsuit.

[B]

Let's see. Did I make it up?

[A]

No. They do have a lawsuit against AIC Open AI. A judge has temporarily blocked OpenAI from using the Cameo name.

[B]

So Open people were making actual fake cameo.

[A]

So OpenAI has been sued for trademark infringement over the app Sora. They have a Cameo feature. So the maker of celebrity video platform Cameo sued Open AI in a California court arguing that the cat. It's the same opening that the Cameo feature on Open AI's Sora video generation app violates its trademark. Got it. Because I guess Cameo has celebrities and good for Cameo, because while they didn't invent the word cameo, they kind of gave. They gave it a new meaning. Which means like a celebrity shout out video. Oh, that's interesting.

[B]

Cool, right? That's a free six sixth story.

[A]

Oh, yes.

[B]

When I. Come on.

[A]

Gives her everyone. Do you want to give them a code?

[B]

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[A]

Taxy, BSC and Clarice.

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Is it okay with you if I dive into the rest of today's sponsors, which do feel oddly reflective of you?

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[B]

I feel like it's been a couple of years.

[A]

So. She will be released from the federal prison camp in Bryan, Texas, on December 10th. Salt Lake City housewife who I remember was defrauding. No, she had, like, a company. Like, you know those calls that you get, like, your loan is do, and you don't even have a loan. She was, like, running this major scam on.

[B]

She did one of those.

[A]

Yeah, but it was a scam that targeted the elderly and disabled communities. Really awful. Disabled, yes. She actually. I only just heard this now. I don't know if it's true, but that she, like, stole a hundred thousand dollars in, like, a pension from a World War II veteran who ended up killing himself. Like, I like, it's. We all joke about Jen Shaw. Like, I don't play around. I think she's disgusting. And people are like, get the cameras up. Don't. Like, please don't. If that's really what Bravo's gonna do. Like, that's. I'm sorry. You shouldn't be able to do something so egregious and then continue to be, like, a beloved housewife or all of.

[B]

The money that she makes should go back to that person's family.

[A]

It's not just one person, man. It was like, this insane ring. I know. And, like, I feel like Bravo teeters with, like, you know, crime a lot. There have been a couple House. I've. Teresa Judites went to jail. And I'm curious how they'll handle this, because this is so different, in my opinion, like.

[B]

Like, Teresa Giudice going to jail is very different.

[A]

Well, right. Teresa went to jail because her husband made her, like, sign paperwork. She had no idea what she was doing. And they did steal from the government. Like, sorry, I don't care. Tom Girardi, Erica Jane's husband. Yeah.

[B]

He stole from the government, right?

[A]

No. Big Lawyer. Aaron Brockovich. Did you. Did we watch Aaron Brockovich together? The movie about the drinking water with Julia Roberts?

[B]

Yeah. Oh, yeah, we did.

[A]

He's the lawyer in that. Yeah, he's, like, one of the most famous.

[B]

What's the attorneys?

[A]

Yeah, but it's not like. No, it's. But, like, when you get a settlement, like, what kind of law is that? Like, personal. Personal injury.

[B]

Personal injury.

[A]

Yeah. Like, billions in personal injury. And he, like, literally stole settlement money from people, like, orphans and widows whose families died in, like, a big airline crash. Really bad. And he is, like, still on trial and. But he has Alzheimer's, and he's like.

[B]

He'S not on the show.

[A]

But the thing is, it wasn't her, so there's never been something like this. And I'm actually really curious to see if Bravo with her. I actually think someone asked Andy at Bravo Con, and he, like, was, like, great. No, like, we're not it. And I really hope that that's what they do. I'll be like, actually not to take, like, a moral high ground and be, like, you know, boring, but, like, I'll actually, like, be judgy if they do that. Like, I'm sorry. That's. She's horrible.

[B]

Terrible. I didn't know that.

[A]

So she's been serving time since 2023. That's insane. She went to jail for two years. Not even because it's December. She's getting out, like, almost two years. She considers the timing a gift that she doesn't take for granted because she's going to be home before the holidays. There's a couple paparazzi pictures. I guess there's, like, she's at the same prison as Elizabeth Holmes. The blood lady. Yeah. She's gonna be home for Christmas. Similar. Like. No. Like, genetics, something. Yeah. Everyone's really grateful to the FBI FB Federal Bureau of Prison decision, especially because it means Jen will be able to reunite with her family. Shaw. Coach Shaw, that's her husband, said in a statement. I just, like, seriously, like, I. I just.

[B]

Nasty.

[A]

It's really bad.

[B]

Why, like. And why would she be able to spend time with her family? Like, why wouldn't they do it, like, right after? Like, why are they being so nice?

[A]

Well, yeah, I don't know. She was supposed to be eight years, and then it was six, and then it was three. And I guess now it's literally not Even two.

[B]

Maybe they didn't like have what they thought they had on her.

[A]

You know, it's just crazy. And I know every time we talk about like celebrities who go to jail, I always bring up the Chrisleys because if they hadn't gotten pardoned by the way, they were going to jail for the rest of their lives separately. And they have young kids. Like, they like took out some fraudulent loans from a bank. Like, not good. But they claim that they didn't do it. But even if they did, like they stole from a bank, like, they didn't hurt anyone, which I know it's bad, but like, sorry, crimes are different.

[B]

Crimes are different.

[A]

And they got such a harsh penalty. Now I know it's different states and I know it's different rules, but I always compare them because they were getting like more time than like rapists do in New York. So I'm always comparing to them. And like what Jen Shaw did was way worse. And they served like a couple of years, but they still each had like 14 years left on their partnering.

[B]

Is so interesting.

[A]

I know.

[B]

How does Trump even know the Chrisleys?

[A]

Well, that's why, like, I think Savannah, the daughter who's like a podcaster and reality star became like very vocal and you know, took on her champion and made it to the White House. That happens a lot. And that's why like when Kim champion someone, she got Alice Marie Johnson out of prison, she championed, like having like a high level champion on the outside is huge.

[B]

It doesn't just happen by accident. Accident, they're knocking down doors.

[A]

No, there are high profile cases that like, you know, sometimes go viral or sometimes like there people have like a celebrity who champions them. It's. It ain't easy to get a pardon, let me tell you that.

[B]

I. I would assume not our fifth.

[A]

And final story was chosen exactly for you. And I just feel like this is only the type of story that gets brought up when you're here. Heinz has debuted a new condiment. It's a leftover comment. It's actually inspired by Friends.

[B]

So the moist maker.

[A]

Okay, so Heinz is giving Thanksgiving leftovers the star treatment. While paying homage to a classic sitcom, the food company released a squeezable bottle of leftover gravy. That is the condiment.

[B]

It's designed in trouble again.

[A]

It's designed to turn the post feast sandwich into a simple crave worthy creation. So the first ever squeezable bottle of Heinz's home style turkey gravy is made for the day after Thanksgiving when leftover turkey, stuffing and cranberry sauce come together in a gravy soaked sandwich famously known on Friends as the moist tomat maker. The moist maker originated on the December 10, 1998 episode called the One with Ross's Sandwich, when David Schwimmer's character had a meltdown after his coworker stole his carefully crafted leftover sandwich from the office refrigerator. The sandwich's signature feature was a middle slice of bread soaked in gravy, keeping the turkey and the stuffing from drying out. It has since become an iconic pop culture reference among fans. And Heinz is now bringing that legendary leftover sandwich to life with a modern twist. You threw my sandwich away. My sandwich. What do you make of this? Gravy in a bottle is tart. Let me say that.

[B]

So first and foremost, we love Kraft Heinz. Okay. Shout out Craft Heinz. We collab with them on pickle Clawson pickles.

[A]

You're gonna say something negative?

[B]

No, no, because I've already. They just did this with the Mac and cheese. That tastes like applesauce or whatever the hell they did last week.

[A]

And shout out. Kraft actually sent us that. It was apple pie, Mac and cheese or something. We didn't eat it.

[B]

Try it. I'm sure it was great. Blah, blah, whatever. Look, they're doing an amazing job on the marketing side. Okay. Two times they've done products that the toast has spoken about.

[A]

Yeah, sometimes because they're so creative with things like this. It's not really about selling bottles. It's about us talking about viral. Like when they did the Van Leeuwen Kraft Mac and cheese ice cream. Yeah. It's like skitschy.

[B]

This sounds. I guess I'll try it. Because I will try just about any kind of sauce once. But the idea of squeezable turkey gravy. Like, what? Is there real turkey in there?

[A]

Okay, but yeah, that's my other thing. Most of Kraft Heinz products are shelf stable.

[B]

This can't be.

[A]

So what is gravy normally made of?

[B]

Turkey. It's like turkey drippings and like.

[A]

What do you mean? Like drippings? Like juice.

[B]

You make a turkey and then everything that falls to the bottom, you can use that to make gravy.

[A]

Yeah, but isn't gravy sometimes creamy?

[B]

Yeah, it's like there's. They, like, they judge it up.

[A]

Yucky.

[B]

So what is this, like, turkey flavored?

[A]

I mean, it must be. I don't know what the ingredients are, but I'm afraid it's also a. Just shout out. It's a collab with Walmart.

[B]

As well.

[A]

It's only [e-mail] yucky. It's made with real turkey broth. You know, delivers a rich, smooth, homemade taste. Perfect for the holiday feast and elevating sandwiches that come out.

[B]

You know what? I'm gonna give it a try because it's made with real turkey broth.

[A]

Well, you can't have it kosher.

[B]

Yeah, I'll break it for you.

[A]

They should absolutely have done some sort of partnership with anyone from Friends. Like, anyone that they could have. They probably paid enough.

[B]

It would have cost them so much money.

[A]

So true. Jennifer Aniston's on every commercial. Like, Craft is the biggest company in the world. Jennifer Aniston's always doing. They could have gotten David Schwimmer. I feel like there was a time where David Schwimmer, like, would not leave his house.

[B]

Who's the cheapest member of Friends?

[A]

Like, who needs the money the most?

[B]

I think Joe.

[A]

Joey. Definitely Joey.

[B]

Yeah, you could have gotten Joey for a nickel.

[A]

You know what's so crazy?

[B]

What?

[A]

That after Friends ended, Joey got a spin off called Joey. Did you know that?

[B]

Nope.

[A]

It was, I think maybe one season. It was, like, not popular, but it's.

[B]

Just so interesting that it made by the same people. Yes.

[A]

And it was like a sitcom. Like, really? Yeah.

[B]

Oh, I didn't know that.

[A]

And it's just so crazy that, like, he got that of all the characters when the show ended, like, that's what they thought people wanted.

[B]

Especially when you watch it back. And the writing for Joey was so unbelievably stupid.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

All of his jokes were so low brow.

[A]

Agreed. And it's crazy that the same person who, like, wrote those jokes also wrote, like, the Ross stuff. Because Ross is, like, a very controversial.

[B]

Ross is a great character.

[A]

Ross is the best character. And Phoebe.

[B]

And Phoebe.

[A]

Yeah. Like the same person who created them.

[B]

But it probably wasn't the same writer.

[A]

But the same creator.

[B]

The same creator? No, the creator created the characters. The writers wrote the jokes, but also then the actors. The actors. Actors, like, also did stuff for themselves.

[A]

Like, created their. Like, actually. And this is the second dinner where I'm talking so much about Matthew Perry's book, but he talks a lot about how, like, committed they all were to, like, creating their characters.

[B]

Chandler was amazing, yet none of them.

[A]

Got a spin off.

[B]

Honestly, all of the characters in that show were amazing except for Joey.

[A]

I totally agree.

[B]

Why? Crap. You probably could have gotten broke between us.

[A]

Rachel was a little annoying.

[B]

You know, I go back and forth. I think that as annoying as Rachel may have been, Monica also was annoying.

[A]

So I want to ask you, which friends character do you think you are and which one do you think I am?

[B]

I definitely am a bit of a Ross.

[A]

You wish.

[B]

No, Chandler. Yeah, I'll take Chandler.

[A]

But the funny thing is is that.

[B]

Like, unfortunately the ad exec that fluctuates weight.

[A]

Like right, I am Monica. Which makes sense because we're. Yeah, you are like, I'm like a nut job. The episode where like, they don't.

[B]

You don't think I'm Ross with like my love of dinosaurs.

[A]

Like, like literally not at all. And I like, I hate. I know the episode where like they refuse to play board games with her because she's so mean. Like you, me and the cleaning. Yeah, no, it's you. And the thing is, I hate Monica. So do I hate myself.

[B]

Wow, that's deep.

[A]

I know.

[B]

That's steep.

[A]

But at least Chandler and Monica end up together. That's us. We're meant to be cg. Now do me a favor.

[B]

Tell me.

[A]

Close your eyes and look around. You made it to the end of the episode.

[B]

Excellent.

[A]

You crushed it.

[B]

This was a fantastic episode. A Thanksgiving fiesta.

[A]

We're coming like sort of nearing the end of Jackie's maternity leave and like just the end of the show for the year. So I feel like you'll probably come on one more time.

[B]

Sure.

[A]

What if you don't?

[B]

If I don't, then Bonui.

[A]

And we'll leave it at that. Thank you so much for listening to the toast and Monday morning show. We deliver the fast five stories that you need to do every Monday through Friday on YouTube. So if you're watching this on YouTube, please feel free to subscribe and give this video a thumbs up or also bells podcasting where podcasts can be found. So it's Spotify itunes Stitch Republic video. I already cast box all the places I've listen to podcast Vanessa Toole five star review about a beautiful but a stunning about how wickedly challenged we are. I'll see you tomorrow for our final episode of the week and if I don't see you then have an amazing Thanksgiving. But I will see you tomorrow. Love you. Bye.