Two Tampons, One Girl: Friday, January 10th, 2025

Summary

Podcast Summary: The Toast Episode: Two Tampons, One Girl
Hosts: Jackie & Claudia Oshry
Release Date: January 10, 2025

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Introduction and Weekly Overview

Claudia:
“It was a meaty one, a chewy one, and we made it through. And that's fantastic.” [01:09]

Jackie:
“It's probably the weakest, meatiest week of the year.” [00:36]

Claudia and Jackie kick off the episode by reflecting on the tumultuous first full week of 2025, particularly highlighting significant events and their impacts. They discuss the heady mix of cultural, personal, and global happenings that made the week both challenging and eventful.

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California Wildfires and Celebrity Impact

Claudia:
“The difference a week makes... everyone's concerned with the fires.” [01:28]

The hosts delve into the devastating California wildfires that have not only wreaked havoc on the general population but have also significantly affected celebrities. They discuss how celebrities like Spencer Pratt and Kelly Ripa are sharing their experiences on social media, highlighting the destruction and personal losses they've endured.

Jackie:
“Sending the utmost love and just everything to everybody who is either evacuated, hunkering down, has already, you know, experienced loss.” [02:57]

Claudia and Jackie express deep empathy for those affected, emphasizing the emotional and physical toll of the fires. They touch upon the rise in arson-related incidents and looting, portraying a grim picture of societal breakdown amidst the natural disaster.

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Personal Anecdote: Wearing Contacts

Jackie:
“My husband Ben... was like, seeing, like, blurry. He had literally forgotten to take out a whole pair and then woke up and put in a second pair.” [04:46]

Jackie shares a humorous yet concerning story about her husband Ben’s struggles with contact lenses, highlighting the challenges of adopting new habits later in life. Their banter underscores the importance of responsibility and proper maintenance when using contact lenses.

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Personal Anecdote: Two Tampons, One Girl

Jackie:
“Let me tell you about the time I took out two tampons of my vagina.” [10:03]

In a candid and lighthearted segment, Jackie recounts an embarrassing moment involving the accidental insertion of two tampons. This story serves as a segue into a broader discussion about menstrual health and the misconceptions surrounding tampon usage.

Claudia:
“It's so unsafe and that people aren't doing it intentionally.” [10:58]

Claudia emphasizes the dangers of such mistakes, advocating for better education and awareness regarding menstrual products to prevent similar incidents.

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Celebrity News: Zach Bryan's Instagram Rant

Jackie:
“So, he posted on his Instagram, and he's since gone private because I went to go look at it. I was like, am I blocked?” [28:37]

Claudia and Jackie discuss Zach Bryan's recent explosive Instagram rant following his split, where he lashes out at internet trolls and addresses rumors surrounding his personal life. They analyze his response as uncharacteristic for someone of his celebrity status, pondering its impact on his public image.

Claudia:
“People are using that sound to just like show random animals in people's front yards.” [27:59]

They also touch upon the broader online reactions and the viral nature of such personal outbursts, debating whether Zach’s actions are a sign of vulnerability or a misstep in handling public relations.

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Southern Charm Recap

Claudia:
“Madison Lacroix revealed that her husband Brett found a tumor on his kidney after having thyroid cancer.” [52:22]

The hosts provide a heartfelt recap of the latest developments in "Southern Charm," focusing on Madison Lacroix's emotional revelation about her husband's health struggles. They commend her resilience and grace in sharing such personal news with the audience.

Jackie:
“She is such a queen. She's literally one of the greatest people on reality TV.” [55:14]

Claudia and Jackie reflect on Madison's journey, highlighting the challenges faced by reality TV stars in balancing public life with private hardships. They express solidarity and support for her ongoing battle with her husband's health issues.

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Queenie and Weenie of the Week

Claudia:
“My Queenie of the Week... was Nikki Glaser crushing it at the Golden Globes.” [57:31]

In their signature segment, Claudia awards Nikki Glaser as the "Queenie of the Week" for her outstanding presence and performance at the Golden Globes. Conversely, Jackie nominates Allison Holker as the "Weenie of the Week" for actions they deem questionable, adding a playful yet critical layer to their weekly roundup.

Jackie:
“I forgot that that was this week... but the way she made me feel like that is valuable.” [63:37]

This segment underscores their unique take on weekly events, blending humor with commentary to engage listeners in a lighthearted evaluation of public figures’ actions.

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Conclusion

Claudia:
“We deliver the Fast5 stories you need to know every Monday through Friday.” [63:37]

Jackie and Claudia wrap up the episode by encouraging listeners to subscribe and leave reviews, reinforcing their commitment to providing timely and entertaining content. They express gratitude towards their audience and tease upcoming segments, keeping the door open for future engagement.

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Notable Quotes

• Claudia: “It's just like humanity at its worst, at its absolute worst.” [27:28]
• Jackie: “She's just like a queen. Like, everyone who knows her, like, loves her.” [51:59]
• Claudia: “So if it wasn't, oh, you wouldn't catch me here.” [34:06]

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Final Thoughts

In this episode of The Toast, Jackie and Claudia Oshry navigate through a spectrum of topics ranging from personal anecdotes to pressing celebrity news. Their candid discussions about the California wildfires' impact on both the general populace and celebrities provide a poignant backdrop to lighter, more humorous segments like the tampon story. The episode also delves into the complexities of managing public relations in the age of social media, exemplified by Zach Bryan's Instagram rant. Through their blend of empathy, humor, and critical commentary, Jackie and Claudia offer listeners a comprehensive and engaging overview of the week's significant events.

Transcript

[Claudia]

Good morning, millennials.

[Jackie]

Welcome back to the toast and Happy Friday.

[Claudia]

I've got it, Claude. Happy Friday to you.

[Jackie]

It doesn't hit in the way that the original does.

[Claudia]

I know, but at least we can sing. At least we can be joyous, because it's the end of senior year.

[Jackie]

It's graduation day, your Independence Day. Whoa. Like, seriously. First full week of 2025 in the bag. Congrats to all the grads.

[Claudia]

It's so true. It's probably the weakest, meatiest week of the year.

[Jackie]

It's wiki wiki feat.

[Claudia]

Like, it's the weakest week. It's the weakest week. It's so weak.

[Jackie]

Oh, I'm like, the word you're looking for is the weakest. But no, you're saying no, it's W.

[Claudia]

E, E K Y. It's so.

[Jackie]

So Wikipedia. I hate people who say Wikipedia. It's like, it's Wikipedia. Or like, wiki feet. Wiki feet. Are you okay?

[Claudia]

No, but this week was super weak, you know?

[Jackie]

But you're saying something entirely different. You're not saying W, I k, I.

[Claudia]

No, I'm saying it was very much a week. It was a meaty one, a chewy one, and we made it through. And that's. That's fantastic.

[Jackie]

Yeah, it was a lot, A lot going on, I think, in the world and everyone's lives and culture. Like, it was kind of a big week.

[Claudia]

It was. I was just thinking that as I was doing the stories today, because the stories have kind of petered out by Friday, which they often do, but mostly because, like, especially in Hollywood, like, everyone is concerned with the fires, and it's just like, wow, this week started with such a bang and what a turn it took.

[Jackie]

No, I know. I was thinking the same thing. I was taking a look at this week at a glance, because I was trying to choose my queenie and weenie of the week, and I was like, oh, my God, that was Monday. No.

[Claudia]

And what's so crazy is the Golden Globes were on Sunday. Like, everyone in that room is now in a different evacuated or have lost their home. So it just really. The difference a week makes, I have.

[Jackie]

Now ended up on the side of TikTok of people, like, returning to the sites of their houses that are completely burned down. And it's like, literally so crazy. But they're sharing things that survived, like, things that are, like, really well made. So Spencer Pratt shared that his all clad, like, Dutch oven completely intact. Like, it's like the only thing he was able to pull out of his house. This girl, she's going viral. Remember when that girl's car exploded and her.

[Claudia]

And her. Stanley.

[Jackie]

This girl's the Lainey Wilson ex Stanley. Collab is, like, the only thing from her house that was completely untouched and totally fine.

[Claudia]

That is so crazy.

[Jackie]

And the video went viral. Now everybody's like, remember, Stanley gave that girl a car. They're gonna give this girl a house. For sure.

[Claudia]

Yeah, for sure. Well, hopefully, like, things start to get better. They haven't yet, but hopefully the weekend brings some good news. Some change in winds. Yeah, a miracle. What they need is a miracle. They need, like, from up high, rain or wind change. Like, because it's just. It's so big.

[Jackie]

It's so big. Sending the utmost love and just everything to everybody who is either evacuated, hunkering down, has already, you know, experienced loss. It's just a really. It's a tough week. And so. And I know we have a lot of listeners in that area, so I hope you guys are doing okay.

[Claudia]

Same. We're here for you. I've seen some people be like, the toast not to make about us, but they did.

[Jackie]

No, never.

[Claudia]

So it's just like. It was like, one hour of just, like, joy, calm and joy, and a little bit less anxiety. So that's what we're here to do.

[Jackie]

Yes. And in that spirit and for everyone.

[Claudia]

Everywhere who's having a hard day.

[Jackie]

Yes, of course. Not limited to just one state. Of course people can use the toast, and that's to make everything about us. But speaking of, you know, whatever you were just saying, I have a crazy thing to tell you. I meant to tell you this. So, you know, my husband Ben, love of my life, has recently. He's kind of been known over the years for his glasses, Right? Yeah, he wears glasses. And he was for a while, like, very against getting contacts, mostly because he, like, couldn't hack it. He couldn't figure out how to put them in. His eyes would get irritated. But like, a year ago, he made a commitment. He was like, I don't want to wear glasses all the time. And he made a commitment to learn and just to, like, suffer. And he now wears contacts most days. It's like this big transition he's been through, actually. And I do worry about him sometimes, because wearing contacts is, like, requires a lot of maintenance and a lot of, like, organization. And even the way, like, when we were going to your house, he was just, like, throwing loose contacts. And I'm like, I don't know. I don't have a good feeling. About this, it requires, like, a. A level of maturity and control and organization that I know he doesn't possess. So I was kind of waiting for, like, the first thing to happen. And it's happened yesterday. Ben was, like, really, like, dizzy. He was, like, seeing, like, blurry. He was wearing two pairs of contacts. He had literally forgotten to take out a whole pair and then woke up and put in a second pair.

[Claudia]

It's kind of, like, really crazy.

[Jackie]

And it reminds me of the time I accidentally put in a second tampon.

[Claudia]

That's where my mind went. But I will say this is kind of like. That's really bad and scary. But this is kind of the second contact infraction. Because let's not forget when he left a contact on the stair in my house.

[Jackie]

You think, like, that makes you special. I find three contacts a day. No, by the way, and it's actually crazy. I could tell you if Ben has more multiple contacts in his eyes based on the amount of contacts that I find. The nightstand, the toilet, the shower. I found them. There isn't a place I haven't found them. I found them on a can of soda in my fridge.

[Claudia]

Okay, so is he going to keep going down this path? What about Lasik?

[Jackie]

Well, I had then sat him down and I was like, I hate to be such, like, his mom, you know, not. That's not like a slight towards Ava, like, to be someone's mother. Like, yeah, so I have to teach them a lesson. But, like, he thought the whole, like, double contact thing was funny. And I was like, it's actually not. You could have hurt yourself, first of all. And I just feel like he wasn't taking it seriously enough. I was. I was actually being like, such a lecturer. But who knows? I mean, you could go blind. Like, you can't just be throwing things in your eyes like that. Now, Lasik, I think Ben also really does like wearing his glasses. Especially from, like, a style pov. He wears glasses to our wedding. Like, so I think he likes having the option. He has discussed Lasik. I have fallen down a rabbit hole of Lasik eye surgery conspiracy theories. And for that reason, I have something, like, against Lasik, even though I don't have enough facts. Like, I'm not going to share what I like. I don't know much what's what.

[Claudia]

I've never even heard that there's a anti Lasik movement. What do they say?

[Jackie]

You know, they just. The kind of. The big argument is that the world's leading optometrists all wear glasses. Like, good Enough for thee, but not for me. And.

[Claudia]

Okay, but is there anything more than that?

[Jackie]

Like there is there is there?

[Claudia]

Just tell me what's the.

[Jackie]

I can't remember. Okay. I can't remember.

[Claudia]

Oh, you can't. Oh my God. I thought you like really just didn't want to wade into controversy. I'm like just throw it out there.

[Jackie]

And by the way, I remember our dad growing up got Lasik and it was like the most amazing, best thing that ever happened to him. So I know it like changes people's lives.

[Claudia]

Dana Holdsberg got Lasik and she is a changed woman. But I has changed her life.

[Jackie]

Ended up on like randomly like Multiple times on TikTok. People. People talking about the dark side of Lasik.

[Claudia]

But you can't remember. Exactly.

[Jackie]

I can't. I'm sorry, I can't remember.

[Claudia]

Okay, okay, that's fine. You'll tell me offline.

[Jackie]

So I brought it up. I'm not hiding it from you. I don't have to tell you anything.

[Claudia]

Just look it up when you remember. Okay, When I remember.

[Jackie]

Like that ever happens.

[Claudia]

I'm going to. Can I google it?

[Jackie]

Yeah. Be like what be the conspiracy negative Lasik.

[Claudia]

I'll just search conspiracy.

[Jackie]

Yeah.

[Claudia]

Even though Google won't give me that. I'll have to go to like.

[Jackie]

No, I feel like with the new Google AI. What's it called at the top?

[Claudia]

Oh, Gemini.

[Jackie]

Our friend Jim, she tells me everything I need. Even she's matter how controversial.

[Claudia]

I love that. I hope she doesn't get corrupted.

[Jackie]

No, she is everything. Although she does sometimes spread misinformation.

[Claudia]

Okay, so here are the debunked Lasix myths. So you know that's the real one. Yeah, of course they're quote debunked one physicians would never have Lasik on their own eyes that you said lighting kind of well. I also feel like it's a surgery that if you see it, you can't do it. Like it's really a weird looking surgery.

[Jackie]

No, I don't agree.

[Claudia]

I'm gonna, I'm not gonna go with that one. That one's just like. That's not real. Two contacts are safer than Lasik. Okay, but why is Lasik unsafe? Lasik is significantly increases the risk of glare and halos.

[Jackie]

Yes, yes, yes.

[Claudia]

But that's like. Did you see this? I saw recently. This isn't giving me what I thought it was going to give me. Like I saw recently the root canals can lead to breast cancer.

[Jackie]

Yeah, I said that on the Skinny Confidential.

[Claudia]

Like okay, rotten tooth.

[Jackie]

Yeah. I. Again, like I said, I don't know enough about the Lasik controversy to wade in. But you were the one who wanted to bring Gemini into this. And, like, now we've said it. So to answer your question, originally, like.

[Claudia]

Dry eye is extremely common. I'm sorry.

[Jackie]

These are not, like, why Ben hasn't gotten Lasik. That's a part of it. I don't know. Maybe he should.

[Claudia]

That's a part of it.

[Jackie]

Maybe you should go back to glasses.

[Claudia]

What's the lesson here? Because, like, Ben is always going to be Ben. So what's the lesson? What's the take?

[Jackie]

I tried to instill a lesson in him being, like, he doesn't even have, like, an area where he keeps the contacts. Like, they're just loose. He's just really crazy about it. And it's like, I don't even know. I like. Teenagers wear contacts. So, like, you have to just stay on top of it. And he's so. He's just so relaxed.

[Claudia]

I just feel like contacts are such a habitual thing. It's actually not something that you can add to your life later in life. Like, you either. Like Margo, like, starting contacts when you're eight. And, like, she does it in her. Like, she knows.

[Jackie]

Yeah.

[Claudia]

It's so innate. But for Ben to, like, pick this up at 30, like, it's just. It's not in his muscle memory.

[Jackie]

It's muscle memory.

[Claudia]

I think he should go back to glasses. That's what I'll say.

[Jackie]

Okay, I understand.

[Claudia]

Lasik would not be for him because, like, what then he's going to get fake glasses because he still needs to wear glasses.

[Jackie]

He's the nerd who takes off his glasses and everybody realizes he's handsome. When you. For the first. And for me, the only time I ever put in two tampons. Like, what was your immediate thought or immediate takeaway?

[Claudia]

So I've never done it.

[Jackie]

Oh.

[Claudia]

However, like, it. It. It. The idea haunts me. I'm always like, when back in the day. And I feel like we also need to talk about tampons at some point.

[Jackie]

Please, not right now. Like, you and your free flowing.

[Claudia]

Like, please, not right now. But like, you guys. Everyone in light has reached enlightenment. So the girlies aren't wearing.

[Jackie]

Let me tell you about the time I took out two tampons of my vagina.

[Claudia]

No, but I just want to say, like, when I. And also, I'm someone who changes tampon every time I pee. So, like, there's a lot of tampon changing. It was always like, oh, my God. Did I take out my tampon? Like, you get drunk. Oh, my God. What's going on with my tampon?

[Jackie]

When you are drunk on your period, changing tampons in the middle of the night, that is where things get really tricky. And if you've ever taken a compact mirror, like, literally upper your vagina, like, you know, I was at a campfriend's house the first and only time I had two tampons in, and I was shocked first at, like, the size of my own vagina. I was like, literally, how is that possible? I just.

[Claudia]

Wait till you have a baby.

[Jackie]

I know. I just thought, like, the inside of my vagina was big enough for one tampon and one tampon only. Like, it wouldn't physically fit. And I guess I'd forgotten to take one out and then put a second one in. And actually, I was at the perfect place because I remember the girl whose house I was at, she was like, oh, it's, like, not a big deal. My mom wears two tampons because she, like, had a bigger vagina from, like, having babies.

[Claudia]

I'm sorry. No, her mom doesn't.

[Jackie]

That's what she had said. And I was like, oh, okay. So it's not like. No, I've. I've damaged myself. That's.

[Claudia]

That's the crazy part about this story.

[Jackie]

I was lied to.

[Claudia]

Not that you. Not, like, whether you were lied to or if this girl's mom is seriously wearing two tampons. They make bigger tampons.

[Jackie]

Yeah, but why would she lie? I feel like, why can't she wear two tampons? No, that's not a thing.

[Claudia]

That's not a thing. That's so dangerous.

[Jackie]

So interesting how that moment, like, informed so much of my, like, vaginal health.

[Claudia]

You think you grow up in charmer, too?

[Jackie]

No, not that you grow up, but, like, some women who, like, you know, have. Whatever. Yeah. They throw in two.

[Claudia]

Okay, maybe I'm misinformed.

[Jackie]

No, maybe you're not. Maybe you're not.

[Claudia]

Craziest thing I've ever heard.

[Jackie]

Well, her. She said her mom did it, and so it just made me feel better in the moment because I, like, felt so irresponsible for letting one sit extra long. Tss.

[Claudia]

Well, I'm glad that she could alleviate, like, an unburden you with that little L, but I'm pretty sure it's so unsafe and that people aren't doing it intentionally.

[Jackie]

Yeah. Actually reminds me of a story a friend of mine told me where she was having sex with someone and they found a tampon.

[Claudia]

Classic. You know, it's a classic friend of mine story.

[Jackie]

Literally. I feel like everybody.

[Claudia]

Everyone has a friend who literally, like getting bugged and they found the tamp.

[Jackie]

Yeah. Yeah. Oh.

[Claudia]

So I guess we'll save. We'll talk about tampons at a later date. It's obviously not top of mind for you right now. No. If you're not having your period, how's that going?

[Jackie]

It's. It's actually not going the way that I thought it would. That's always been something where I'm like, yeah, being pregnant is hard, but, like, one of the few like, like benefits like, to your well being is like, well, you're not getting your period. It hasn't even crossed my mind. What I'm going through is so much harder and worse than a period. Like, my period could never.

[Claudia]

I just had the craziest thought, like, something that I would. Something that I would never say on the show. But like, now that I've said it, I just feel like it's so funny.

[Jackie]

What?

[Claudia]

Now that I've thought it. Like, today I'm dressed like an unused tampon. Head to toe gray. And you're dressed like a used one.

[Jackie]

Okay. I am definitely a dresser. I'm dressed like a used one on day one. Cuz, like, it's giving old blood. And I love this line of.

[Claudia]

You're just like the one that got stuck up.

[Jackie]

Yeah. But let me ask you a question. Your tampons are gray white cotton, you know? Yeah. You're wearing gray, to be clear.

[Claudia]

I know, but like, still, it's giving.

[Jackie]

Tampons a thousand percent. I love, like, describing clothing in reference to different menstrual phases. Like, remember my old period sweater that had like.

[Claudia]

I do.

[Jackie]

Different shades of red? We.

[Claudia]

It's in the basement. Going in the toast museum. Yes.

[Jackie]

Do you have that sweater? No.

[Claudia]

I wish.

[Jackie]

I'm pretty sure. I. And I was just talking about this with Ben yesterday. Like, when I lost all that weight, I was like, I will never be fat again. Like, and everything that was bigger than a size medium legitimately went in the trash to Goodwill or to, like, somebody I know, the way I would kill someone for a piece of that clothing right now. Like, I have just sort of given up. I'm wearing, like, things that don't flatter me, things that don't fit. I'm not buying new clothes. I got so ahead of myself on Ozempic and getting pregnant through a total wrench in there. And I knew I was like, God willing, one Day gonna get pregnant. And I just, like, I was in such control of my body back then. No, I was like, listen, I have control of my health. I work out every day. I will be one of those pregnant women who eats well and works out. Like, and I will just have a bump and I will just get like, you know, a big crew neck. My toast merch will cover me for a few months. Like, that's actually what I thought. Meanwhile, I'm, like, actually fat. I'm not even, like, having my bump is whatever. My body is huge. Like, I'm so the opposite of the type of pregnant woman I thought I was gonna be.

[Claudia]

Well, I suggested to you earlier this week an idea that we would also vlog, but I feel like it's this where we do closet swap, where, like, I make a box of like, 10 things for you.

[Jackie]

Yeah.

[Claudia]

Like, pregnancy items that I think you would like, which I should just do anyway because it sounds like you need it.

[Jackie]

You know, I just, like, hate bringing things into my home.

[Claudia]

Okay, but you need clothes.

[Jackie]

Why this size? Medium fits great.

[Claudia]

Or maybe, like, maybe you could partner with some. Some brands to send you stuff. Like Hatch.

[Jackie]

No, Like, I'm fine.

[Claudia]

Like, they're really generous.

[Jackie]

I'm not bothered by that. I. Look, I think other people might be a little perturbed in the streets, but for me, like, it, you know.

[Claudia]

Oh, okay. That's not the vibe that I was getting. I was hearing, like, complaining.

[Jackie]

It wasn't complaining. I was just remarking on a regret of mine. Like, throwing away all those clothes. Like, I would be in a much better place right now if I had my whole. I was plus size for so many years. I invested in, like, actually good. And then I was like, I'll never need it again. Yeah, spoiler alert. She needed it again.

[Claudia]

I. I don't think that should be a regret of yours. Like, I don't think so.

[Jackie]

Okay, what's your biggest.

[Claudia]

Get yourself a few things. My biggest regret? Well, you know, regrets. We wouldn't be where you are now regrets.

[Jackie]

I've had a few.

[Claudia]

So of course, every regret has led me to my where I am. So, like, I have smaller regrets. You know, like for the color that I registered on my wedding registry for the Dutch oven that I got. Like, I wish I did a different color. Yeah, Small, like, not life changing regrets. Of course. The teen tour, that was a big. That's like my big regret. That wouldn't have changed the trajectory of my life. I just would have had a better summer.

[Jackie]

You never should have been on that teen tour.

[Claudia]

Jack never should have been on everyone.

[Jackie]

Knows Israel based teen tours.

[Claudia]

Just everyone knows about my teen tour regret. I definitely told the story on the Patreon before, but I went on a teen tour one summer and I didn't have a good time and I wish I didn't go.

[Jackie]

You also left early.

[Claudia]

And I did leave early after giving it like a fair shot. And now in hindsight, I can recognize all the reasons why it wasn't for me, like why I shouldn't have gone. But at the time I thought it was a good idea.

[Jackie]

Of course, like, all your friends were going, so it's like, how bad could it be?

[Claudia]

Yeah, it was bad.

[Jackie]

You guys know my biggest regret? It's not getting in that cop car that one time. I. I won't tell my story again.

[Claudia]

Not a life changing regret. Of course, there are so many other things.

[Jackie]

I don't know. I could have pursued a job in the documentary. No, A job in the field. Like, maybe that would have like really tickled my.

[Claudia]

Or.

[Jackie]

Or instead of becoming like a comedy pop culture podcaster, it would have propelled me to like true crime.

[Claudia]

Okay, so it would have changed the course of your life, but I don't think you're interested in changing the course of your life. That's why, like, of course I've made mistakes in my life that I wish I didn't, you know, but they've led me to where I am right now, so I can't regret them too much.

[Jackie]

It's a very healthy outlook.

[Claudia]

That's why my regrets are as far as things I would change are small.

[Jackie]

Okay, that's beautiful.

[Claudia]

I think so. Yeah.

[Jackie]

Well, should the two tampons get to tamponing and do what we came to do here today?

[Claudia]

I think so. I think that we should. We talked enough about periods to last me five years.

[Jackie]

Yeah, well, I'm not gonna be able to talk about my period for quite a bit more time. And I know a lot of people are missing my monthly check ins.

[Claudia]

Right, right. But at least like the pregnant women are getting pregnancy check ins.

[Jackie]

So true. And they feel seen at the toes. We make sure everybody feels like represented and heard.

[Claudia]

We try. We try our best.

[Jackie]

And when I say everybody feels heard.

[Claudia]

It'S just me and you and people akin to us.

[Jackie]

Not even them, just us.

[Claudia]

Well, without further ado to do. To do, here are the fast five stories that you need to know.

[Jackie]

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[Claudia]

Thank you, Turdy.

[Jackie]

You're welcome.

[Claudia]

Our first story is just a bit of a fire update in the celeb world that also is kind of like leading to new interesting developments. Of course, a lot of celebrities have lost their homes and evacuated and the.

[Jackie]

List is like, growing.

[Claudia]

But now some celebs are like, hunkering down together. One and it's giving like, reconciliation. Question mark.

[Jackie]

First, Peter Facinelli and Jenny Garth.

[Claudia]

Peter. Jenny Garth with her husband, though he's kind of in the way, fled to her ex husband Peter Facinelli's house. Ben Affleck went to jlo's house.

[Jackie]

Oh, my God, he did.

[Claudia]

Harry and Meghan are opening their home to friends to stay with them. And I just, I feel like this is the beginning of. Could be something. This is how things start.

[Jackie]

Like when people lock down together. In Covid. Was it?

[Claudia]

Yeah.

[Jackie]

Cara Delevingne and Ashley Benson. Yeah. Did they lock down together? Is that how they got together?

[Claudia]

Maybe. But it definitely accelerated people's relationships.

[Jackie]

Yes.

[Claudia]

Yeah.

[Jackie]

So that's sweet.

[Claudia]

That is sweet. Very nice of people to open their homes, of course, if they're in a safe place and they have friends who have evacuated. But it's just interesting. A lot of big personalities in a house.

[Jackie]

Yes. Also, I think, like, following Spencer Pratt has been really interesting because they're like really sort of just like nomads right now. They were able, they were like part of the first evacuators, but they were able to pack up a lot of stuff. So they were just like took clothes and Spencer was posting like, I don't even know what I took. Like, this stuff in his suitcase was like, so dumb. But he also shared that he was one of the people who lost fire insurance a couple of months ago. So they're sort of like, screwed.

[Claudia]

Oh, my gosh.

[Jackie]

I know. And they're like, obviously celebrities, but, like, they're, they're not like they have to work.

[Claudia]

Like, right.

[Jackie]

They work.

[Claudia]

They just like sit back and get checks Mailed to them.

[Jackie]

Yeah.

[Claudia]

Wow, that's really scary. That's a really bad place to be in.

[Jackie]

I know. He's been sharing all of it on Tick Tock. And then they went back to the site of their former home, and it was just like, smithereens. Like, it was ashes. It was really crazy.

[Claudia]

Kelly Teller also posted today, like, a picture of their house and what it looks like today. And there's no house.

[Jackie]

That is so sad. And your caption, like, really made me, like, like, want to cry. And she's like, I wish I grabbed my wedding dress. Like, it was just some people were given, like, a little bit of time to evacuate and pack. Like, now that. Because, like, the. The. I almost said fdny. Like, the fire department is, like, kind of staying on top of things. There are certain areas that are giving, like, warnings to evacuate.

[Claudia]

Yeah.

[Jackie]

Pack, but you don't go anywhere. But at the beginning, like, when Spencer and Heidi, they were one of the first people whose houses. I don't know where they live, what.

[Claudia]

Area it is, but probably the Palisades, because that was, like, the first area that was really hit.

[Jackie]

They were sort of given, like, no time.

[Claudia]

Yeah. I saw Paris Hilton posted her. I mean, seriously, like, the number of.

[Jackie]

Celebrities Paris Hilton found out from the news. Like, they were.

[Claudia]

Yeah. She saw.

[Jackie]

Showing a house.

[Claudia]

Right. And she wrote, like, how this home, like, how much it meant to her, how much it means to her family. And it's just, like, it's really devastating. Of course, like, there's regular people whose stories we don't know, but these are also people whose stories that we do know. So that's just it. Just like, it's everyone.

[Jackie]

Late Meester and Adam Brody.

[Claudia]

Yes.

[Jackie]

I think I saw Eugene Levy as well.

[Claudia]

Anthony Hopkins.

[Jackie]

So crazy. This is, like, one of the craziest things in, like, modern history.

[Claudia]

Yeah.

[Jackie]

Because it's like, there's nothing I can even compare it to. Like, there have been other California wildfires, obviously, that have been, like, devastating. Like, the. I feel like the most recent one was. But this is, like, unlike anything I've ever seen in my lifetime.

[Claudia]

Yeah. And I don't know if it's been contained at all yet.

[Jackie]

No. I was seeing even this morning, there are a lot of fires that are at 0% containment still.

[Claudia]

And then, of course, there's the arson, which is now.

[Jackie]

Yes. They arrested someone.

[Claudia]

They arrested someone. I've seen a couple videos now.

[Jackie]

Yes.

[Claudia]

Of people starting little fires everywhere.

[Jackie]

And I was watching the press conference last night of, like, the fire chief and, like, the Mayors of like, these smaller counties. And the fire chief was like, I can't speak on fatalities. The police department has to because we haven't ruled out arson. And if these are fatalities caused by arson, it's like literally murder.

[Claudia]

Yeah.

[Jackie]

So it was really crazy.

[Claudia]

Yeah. Also then the looting, I'm sure you've seen that. Yes. Dozens of people going into evacuated. Hurricane Katrina, stealing from home. So now this is like, this is crime, theft. It is humanity at its worst, at its absolute worst. And I hope that they meet the justice that they so richly deserve. And I hope the police are out in full force like, and getting it done.

[Jackie]

The animals, like, it's so sad. There's so many different, like, levels to this devastation. But like, I've like, there's a tick tock sound going around because this guy was like, the animals in la, like, don't know what to do. They don't know where they are. There was like this bunny, like, who looked lost and he was talking to the bunny. He's like, you're on Pico, whatever. And so people. So people are using that sound to just like show random animals in people's front yards. Like a wolf. Not a wolf. So, like, you know, I don't know what the, like the native California animals are, but, like, they have a lot.

[Claudia]

Of animals, a lot of.

[Jackie]

And a lot of forestation. So, like, there's a lot of animals that live there and they're all like, coming down from coming out of the forest, walking in the street.

[Claudia]

Yeah.

[Jackie]

It's so crazy.

[Claudia]

Yeah. So that's a bit of an update. Hopefully by Monday we'll have some better news.

[Jackie]

Yeah. Like, we'll be at the end of it.

[Claudia]

Yeah.

[Jackie]

It will have been like a week.

[Claudia]

Yeah, hopefully. Hopefully there's like an end in sight.

[Jackie]

Yeah.

[Claudia]

Our next story. Switching gears.

[Jackie]

Yeah.

[Claudia]

Zach Bryan is clapping back at trolls in an explosive Instagram rant after his split. So he's been relatively quiet since everything has gone down. I mean, his name has been like, absolutely ruined.

[Jackie]

Did you see he has a new girly?

[Claudia]

Rightfully so. No, I did not see that.

[Jackie]

It's like real underground, like TikTok, like discovery. She's just like. It's. It's crazy how these people, like, really follow a blueprint. They don't even, like, attempt to change up. It's like a really young girl who's a really big fan of his. And yeah, damn.

[Claudia]

I was actually thinking he probably does because he was cheating on her the whole time.

[Jackie]

Yep.

[Claudia]

There are plenty of girls that wouldn't care, girls. Especially if you're super young and just, like, naive and. And don't understand, like, the dynamics that you could fall into something like that. And then I'm sure he's also super charming, like, when he wants.

[Jackie]

Of course, it's easy to get swept away. He's a rock star.

[Claudia]

Right? Right. So he posted on his Instagram, and he's since gone private because I went to go look at it. I'm like, am I blocked? But no, he's private.

[Jackie]

He didn't block.

[Claudia]

I just want.

[Jackie]

Well, should we make a title? Like, I'm so sick of not being clickbaity Jax blocked by Zach Brian, comma, story time.

[Claudia]

Well, also, I was only on alert because yesterday someone sent me a post.

[Jackie]

Yes.

[Claudia]

And I clicked it and I said. It said, media not found. I was like, you know, they deleted. And they're like, no, you either have them blocked or they blocked you. I've never heard of this account in my whole life. So they had blocked me.

[Jackie]

They had blocked me as well.

[Claudia]

They had blocked the redheads. They had blocked the toast.

[Jackie]

And I, Claude with no job.

[Claudia]

The thing is, it's not a person. It's like an account. I can't even remember the name because I've never heard of them before. So it's not like tea. That I'm not sharing. I genuinely don't know who, but, like, I don't know why this person even knows who I am that they would block the redhead.

[Jackie]

Jackie, you're a star. The redheads are extremely threatening. They're extremely influential.

[Claudia]

Maybe we, like, did a nasty review of their book.

[Jackie]

No, they don't have a book.

[Claudia]

Kidding. I don't even know who this person is. No, it's not a person. It's like.

[Jackie]

It's not a person. It's like an information account.

[Claudia]

Yeah, like Pooper Upper.

[Jackie]

Yeah. You know, like, they, like, spread like that.

[Claudia]

You want to know?

[Jackie]

They spread, like, actual, like, lies.

[Claudia]

Lies. Misinformation.

[Jackie]

Like, especially about, like, Israel. So I guess that's where. Where we lost them.

[Claudia]

Yeah, but it's like, crap that you care about. Yeah.

[Jackie]

Yeah. Crap. You should. You should know.

[Claudia]

But it wasn't. You should know.

[Jackie]

No. Is that an account? Oh, sorry, we're not talking about that. That account.

[Claudia]

No, we're not talking about that account. We don't even know what account we're talking about.

[Jackie]

Yeah, because we can't remember the name because we're blocked.

[Claudia]

Okay, here's what Zach Bryan said. Oh, right when he didn't block me. Said also all you fudgeing weird couch warriors attacking and belittling my friends on the Internet because you're assuming I have a girlfriend, are weird as hell and should be studied for science.

[Jackie]

So I have a girlfriend.

[Claudia]

Everyone wonders why I quit touring and don't want to be attached to music anymore. Meanwhile, you're calling my friends ugly and harassing them. Well, maybe it's his friend girl. And then they called her ugly. I don't know what people on the Internet are doing.

[Jackie]

She was cute. I didn't see people calling her ugly. I think they were like, oh, no, girl, we feel bad for you. Like, let us save you, not get ugly. You know?

[Claudia]

He said, I'm not asking for sympathy, but going for my friends is so low and so messed up. Apparently, I've had four different girlfriends in, like, two weeks. Me, my wife, friends, and me are just laughing and hanging out like we always have.

[Jackie]

The thing is, this is really not the type of behavior somebody at his level of celebrity should be engaging with. Like, their rumors started about big celebrities all the time. Like, this is a person who's playing arenas and stadiums. Like, do you see, like, Bruno Mars commenting on what people say about him? Actually, we've been begging him to comment on the allegations that he's $50 million in DEB. And he finally did the other day. Did you see?

[Claudia]

No.

[Jackie]

He posted, like, something. I think he had a show in Vegas or something. He posted and the caption was, like, paying off my debt. Like, finally. It was like a confirmation that it's not true, but that he knows that we've all been saying.

[Claudia]

Right. But he literally just said it's true.

[Jackie]

No, like, Jackie and then, like, this emoji, you know, I'm just saying, like.

[Claudia]

It could also just be true.

[Jackie]

Oh, can we talk about. I love that song.

[Claudia]

Love that song. You know who loves that song? Kids.

[Jackie]

Yeah, it's giving, like, it's going to be the next happy Pharrell Williams.

[Claudia]

I just want to say, like, I or someone should start a playlist of, like, popular songs that kids also really like so you can, like, listen to, like, real music.

[Jackie]

That sunshine in my pocket got that good song. That's one. Even though that's from a kid's movie, but still.

[Claudia]

You know what else I found that they like? Dynamite by BTS1000slaps.

[Jackie]

I actually think a lot of K pop is, like. Of engineered to be, like, not addictive, but kind of like Josie and the Cats, like, young people friendly.

[Claudia]

No, it's like, it's. It is engineered for People to like it, and so it gets into your brain and. Yeah, yeah.

[Jackie]

And I just love Bruno Mars. I've actually recently started following him on social media. I've always been, like, a fan of his music, and I never followed him on Instagram the other day because Apatow is, like, taking over. He, like, came across my feet. I'm like, you know what? Like it. I'm gonna follow Bruno Mars. Like, I'm crazy, but I'm free, you know, it's been such a joy. And I find that he's, like, so top of mind for me now as, like, a celebrity. And I really love him. I feel like we don't talk about him enough.

[Claudia]

We don't talk about.

[Jackie]

We talk about him more than most people.

[Claudia]

And I feel like people don't even realize I don't follow him, which is weird because I love him so much. And my beloved Bruno is literally named for Bruno Mars. People don't realize that.

[Jackie]

No, they don't.

[Claudia]

It's literally Zach and I's. Zach and I's favorite artist together.

[Jackie]

But he's so famous, so I think I remember being, like, shocked at how many followers he has. Can you check? I believe he has, like, 50 million.

[Claudia]

He's really so 41 million.

[Jackie]

And the Apata is huge for him, too, because Rose is, like, a global artist as well.

[Claudia]

She is. And she's from blackpink, so it all comes full circle for me. My faves. And then he also just had a song with Lady Gaga, another fave.

[Jackie]

Oh, I love that song.

[Claudia]

Like, those are my people.

[Jackie]

Like, it didn't take off that song. I know, in the way that it should have, given the fact that it was two, like, mega, mega stars and neither one of them have released music in a while.

[Claudia]

Yeah, I think it was just because it wasn't as, like, popping as people expected. It was just, like, a nice, beautiful song.

[Jackie]

To you. That's why everybody hates us that's why.

[Claudia]

Everybody hates us that's why everybody hates us they like, so gorgeous and ugly things and positive.

[Jackie]

Well, speaking of ugly, let's go back to Zach. Brian.

[Claudia]

So, yeah, he's just like, he has his Instagram story with, like, a lot of text over it. Like, it's kind of, like a girly way to respond to something. I just want to say, not only.

[Jackie]

Like, is it not, like, the behavior of, like, a man of his age, but it's also not a behavior of, like, someone of his celebrity and stature. It's giving, like, real housewife spiral. And every time he has, like, social media drama with, like, the Taylor Swift tweet. He always ends up, like, releasing statements. And it's like, you are so famous. You are so wealthy. Like, just do your music and, like, go live. Be happy. Get off the Internet. Like, it's losery. Like, and I always find, like, if that were me and I had all this, like, real fame and money, like, you would not catch me getting involved in the sewers that is the Internet anymore. Like, I'm here because I have to. This is my job. But if it wasn't, oh, you wouldn't catch me here.

[Claudia]

Yeah. I feel like for him, the best thing that he can do, especially in this moment when his personal.

[Jackie]

His character is being called into question.

[Claudia]

It'S just like, focus on the music. People really do love his music. His music's not being canceled.

[Jackie]

Just, like, kind of his saving grace. Like, his talent is, like, the one thing we can't deny a musician.

[Claudia]

Like, leave the Instagram story in, like, two Briana chicken fry.

[Jackie]

Leave it to us. We have got it covered.

[Claudia]

Yeah.

[Jackie]

Oh, my God. Ben rolls over in bed this morning, and he had been, like, scrolling on his phone. He's like, are you seeing this Jersey Mike's drama.

[Claudia]

Claudia. I literally was going to ask, like, what's the beef with Jennifer Aiden and Jersey Mike's? I mean, it's reached such a level that I went looking for the video, I'll tell you.

[Jackie]

So I was like, what Jersey Mics? I thought they had, like, a listeria outbreak or something. He was like, this housewife. I'm like, oh, oh, yeah, for sure. It actually is crazy how big it's gotten. Ben had never even heard of the name Jennifer Aiden, and Ben knows Margaret. Like, Ben's not unfamiliar with the housewives. It's gotten to such a level. It was such a crazy thing for her to post. She was in the airport and went to Jersey Mike's and, like, had a negative experience with the customer service. And it's my opinion that she was in the wrong, like, in the. In the argument. But even if she was, even if this person was behind the sandwich counter being, like, a dick, her reaction was so fucking crazy, she starts screaming at other people in line filming the staff, saying, I'm a celebrity. Like, my husband's a medical doctor. Like, but in, like, the nastiest tone that you could possibly. Like, I'm a fucking celebrity. Who the fuck are you? Who the fuck are you? And then filming the poor girl just trying to make fucking sandwiches. Like, it was so disgusting. It was Such a level. It really was such a bad look for housewives, a bad look for celebrities, a bad look for women. Like, it was just horrible. Then Ben had seen it because she went on, like, a radio show or something, was talking about it, like, giving her apology or whatever. She maintains that she was in the right. You know, I think the. The issue was that they were going to make her get back online. It was a long line in the airport. They were gonna make her get back online to order something else. But she was like, I haven't even paid yet. So it was just like an argument about, like, the protocol for the line. And she maintains that she was in the right. She was like, I hadn't paid yet. I wanted another sandwich, yada yada. And she, of course, respects people in service. She. This is what she actually said, right? She said, I grew up working in service. You know, my families are jewelers. That's not the same as working at Jersey Bikes. She said, I have so much respect for first service. I grew up in the service industry. My husband works in the service industry. Your husband's a plastic surgeon. Like, that's the service industry now? No, it was so toned up. She is. I have, like, she is awful. Like, this is actually. You see. You see someone's true character. Like, it was so upsetting. And Ben was like, it can't have been that bad. So I made him go on TikTok and search the video. He was floored. Like, it is one of the most shock. I feel like videos like that go viral all the time. Not of celebrities, but just like, I'm at her rental car and. And whatever. And it was one of the worst I'd seen, honestly. Like, celebrity or non celebrity, it was really just knowing who she is and, like, how she lives. Like, it was so disgusting.

[Claudia]

No. And it's not dying down like every. It's like Jennifer Aiden, Jersey Mike's like.

[Jackie]

Because her apology was terrible, she keeps making it worse.

[Claudia]

Yeah, no, it's. That's really bad.

[Jackie]

You know who I'm actually speaking of the real houses in New Jersey, I've recently started, like, engaging in content with is Rachel Futa. I liked her when she was on, but she's like a, you know, relatively new housewife, but she is pregnant and so content. Her content is just sort of like, found me. I think I'm like, in her demographic and she's a cutie. I actually like her a lot. I hope they. I don't know what the plan is for Jersey, and I know people didn't like her because, like, she was on Margaret's side. And I think, like, the tree huggers were like Team Teresa over Melissa. But I think Rachel food. It was great. I actually really like her and she has, like, a nice, big house, which is really all I care about.

[Claudia]

Yeah, I like her, too. I wonder what they're gonna do there.

[Jackie]

I know. And it's been a long time. Like, a lot of silence.

[Claudia]

Yeah. Well, are you ready for our next story? Another end of an era.

[Jackie]

Yes. But really quickly, while we're just talking about Bravo, do you see also, Karen Hur did not show up to the Potomac reunion.

[Claudia]

Well, that's story. Oh, but it will be now.

[Jackie]

Okay. I don't know if it made, like, the Fast five fodder, so I just thought it should be mentioned for Friday.

[Claudia]

Yeah. Karen Huger checked into rehab after her DUI conviction and skipped the Potomac Season 9 reunion taping. So real House as a Potomac star. Karen Huger has checked herself into rehab following her DUI conviction in December. Her rep revealed the news Thursday after Bravo released a seating chart for the highly anticipated season nine reunion. The graphic showed where each of the cast members were assigned to sit in relation to each other and the moderator, and she was noticeably missing. So her rep told the Daily Dish that Karen made the important decision to enter a private recovery program so she was unable to attend the reunion taping today. He noted that his client was fully supported in this choice. He said, we stand behind Karen as she embarks on this meaningful journey and are proud of her for taking such a significant step toward her forward in her personal growth.

[Jackie]

Now, I might be biased because, like, I will seriously stand the Grandam till I die. And generally, like a housewife not showing up to a reunion is such an unforgivable thing for me. Like, I never was able to look at Adrian Maloof the same name. Never be able to look at Lisa Vanderpump the same. Even, like, two years ago when Sutton Strack had, like, a cough and left and went to the hospital, like, please. You know, I. I think it's such a weak behavior for the network. She's come back from it, though.

[Claudia]

It's like a. A fire.

[Jackie]

Yes, it is.

[Claudia]

But this, I mean, I didn't watch the season of Potomac, so I can't really say, like, where is she? Hiding from something? No. And I will make excuses for her so forever, proudly. But I feel like, especially with this being the reason for why she's gone, not just she's, like, skipping out, though she could be Skipping out and using this as a reason, I feel like there's a way for her to still be on the show 1000%.

[Jackie]

To me, this is not, like, sort of crossing that line in the sand that not showing up for the reunion generally does. But also, that rule has kind of shifted. They've gotten a little relaxed because think about Mary Cosby. Like, she was probably the person who had the most to answer for. What was that? Like, that second or third season of the Real Housewives of Salt Lake City, and she did not show up, and then she did not return. Like, she was not asked back, but she has since returned. She is being lauded for her performance this season. I don't know if you've seen that she's been. She filmed this, sees this scene, and then also has been, like, keeping everybody abreast on her son. Just sort of opening up to her, like, telling her that he's addicted to drugs. And she had literally no idea. It's like, the most. I watched it, I was crying. Like, it was real. She was so upset. She was, like, trying to, like, not react in a poor way. She just could not believe what she was hearing. Like, talking about cocaine, like, all these drugs that he was doing. And he has since, like. And him coming to her was like, this moment of, like, kind of rock bottom, like, want help? And they're, you know, actively working on it. She gave an update on Watch what Happens Live. But so she's having, like, this amazing season, and she is someone who we forget didn't show up to reunion, which in most cases would have been.

[Claudia]

Yeah, well, then she wasn't on the next season. So. Yes, maybe you could, like. I think Lisa Vanderpump could come back to Beverly Hills now. And it has something to do with whether or not she went to the reunion. But, like, I think it's typically, like, you will not be on the show any longer. Anything can change in the future, though.

[Jackie]

Yeah. So with Karen Huger, I don't feel like this is bad faith. I think it's, like, a very reasonable excuse. Also, the footage that came out of her arrest, like, she was blackout. Like, it was giving alcoholic.

[Claudia]

Yeah.

[Jackie]

You know, where she's saying she's Thomas Jefferson's concubine. Did you see her say that? The video footage, it's actually on par with Luanne's arrest. Like, there's.

[Claudia]

Calling herself the Grandom. Yeah. Because she.

[Jackie]

Of course, there is a camera in the front seat. Like, seriously, it's. It's Real Housewives level production. And then also in the interrogation room, it was really crazy behavior. I actually did not recognize her. And so I could see her actually having an issue, and her taking care of that is of the utmost importance. So whether or not, like, I don't.

[Claudia]

Know, it's like, maybe she went to rehab to get out of the reunion. Maybe. But at least she's, like, now in.

[Jackie]

Rehab, so she needs it.

[Claudia]

So unless she's, like, lying about going to rehab, which I don't think she is for one second, because that would be, like, an absolute, insane, fireable offense. But, like, if she's in rehab, even if she did it to get out of the reunion, like, she's doing a good thing.

[Jackie]

Agreed. I support Karen writes wrongs and Karen. Karen, right. Karen Huger's wrongs and Karen Huger's rights. And I just. I love. And when you've put in as much work as she has to that franchise where, like, so many women phoned it in for so long, Robyn Dixon, she's allowed to take a break.

[Claudia]

Yeah, I agree. And, yeah, we're definitely being hypocritical. And.

[Jackie]

Oh, my God. So The Traitors Season 3 premiered last night, and I don't know if you saw this saga when they announced. It's so funny how that show really covers a wide range of reality tv. So a lot of fans of, like, Survivor, Big Brother come in, and then they're meeting these Bravo people for the first time. And same for the Bravo people. They're meeting all these, like, bachelor people. And this tweet had went viral. When they were announcing the cast, somebody put. Who was unfamiliar with the Housewives, put up a picture of Robin Dixon, and they were like, oh, cannot wait to meet this queen. Like, I just have a feeling she's gonna be, like, the biggest, baddest traitor of all, just based on vibes.

[Claudia]

Okay.

[Jackie]

Oh, my God. The tweet went so viral, everyone was like, you think she can catch a trader? She literally couldn't even catch her husband cheating on her for five years. He was sleeping right next to her. Like, the tweets, Jackie. It was one of the funniest things that ever happened. Like, he was just, like, making a prediction. He could not have been more wrong in his traitor's prediction. And the Bravo fans were like, I'm gonna hold your hand when I say this. She's gonna get out first. Yeah. Like, she is actually not cut out for the traitor's life. She, like, attached herself to Giselle for so many years. Like, she's actually. She's not good at the game and so funny.

[Claudia]

It premiered last night and.

[Jackie]

Oh. And so. No, it just reminded me of that saga. I'm sure she is. I don't know. I don't watch Traitors, but it just premiered and it reminded me because like Dorinda's now making the rounds doing. She's on the season or was she on last season? I can't remember.

[Claudia]

I think she's on this season. The cast was announced a while ago and now it's premiering.

[Jackie]

Yes. Yeah, I hate that.

[Claudia]

Like, yeah, I'm confused.

[Jackie]

I think with like all these reality stars, it's actually really hard to keep things under wraps. Like they have such loose lips. They go on Instagram live, they go on Jeff Lewis.

[Claudia]

They're like missing for three months. So you know they did something.

[Jackie]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Claudia]

So it is tough. Are you ready for our next story?

[Jackie]

What number four? What do you think?

[Claudia]

I don't think you are.

[Jackie]

Okay. Me neither.

[Claudia]

You don't look like you are because.

[Jackie]

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[Claudia]

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[Jackie]

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[Claudia]

Our next story. Hoda copies final Today show broadcast broadcasted and she was joined by a number of stars, including Oprah, Simone Biles, Kermit the Frog, Jamie Lee Curtis, Dwayne Wade, Kristin Shanowitz.

[Jackie]

Now, I happen to think, like, when people cry on TV about, like, leaving their jobs or, like, someone's retiring and, like, I don't know, I just think I'm, like, a little sensitive to people crying on tv. I'm like, okay, stop. Especially about, like, their job. All the things that I feel about that, like, do not apply here. Like, for me, Hoda is so different. I can't explain it's like, because I'm a New Yorker. But, like, I love the job that she's done over the last couple of years. It's a hard job. She's so family friendly. She's such a queen. She's, like, friends with so many celebs. Everybody who knows her, like, loves her. I can only imagine what she's really like, like, in person. Because if everybody you meet only, I've never had. Have you ever heard a celebrity who doesn't like Hoda or, like, beef with Hoda?

[Claudia]

No.

[Jackie]

And that's hard, by the way. It's hard to. To avoid any sort of controversy when you meet the biggest celebrities every single day for the last 30 years. Like, yeah, I'm telling you, she's just a queen. Like, I have a good feeling about her. And I think so many people, like, kind of like the Ellen. Right? We're more suspicious. No, that could never happen to Hoda, I'm telling you.

[Claudia]

Yeah. Also, when someone's crying about, like, leaving their job, it's like, okay, stay.

[Jackie]

What have you just stayed? Yeah.

[Claudia]

Obviously she's made a hard choice, and it's a hard choice, and it's bittersweet. So you're allowed to be emotional about that.

[Jackie]

And when you think about, like, what she's experienced, like, lived through at the network, like, the Matt Lauer of it all, like, she's really been there for a lot. And then also, like, cultural moments, cultural events. Like, I think she was, like, literally on air on 9 11, right? Like, the. The amount of things that you just have lived through in a job like, that is so crazy. And everybody loves her. Everybody speaks so highly of her. Like, she's Just a queen. I feel like when we're talking about, like, the depraved world of Hollywood celebrities, it's so important to, like, keep a list of people who are definitely not on that, like, demonic pedophile list. And, like, Hoda is definitely a queen.

[Claudia]

Yeah. And also, you have to think about the people who watch every day and how she's such an important part of their day.

[Jackie]

It's so true.

[Claudia]

Yeah. And like, this, it has been for years, is exciting and bright. Now. ScarJo will be a part of their day for a week.

[Jackie]

Right.

[Claudia]

But let's, you know, just remember the good times. Yeah, the good times roll, my friend.

[Jackie]

Let the good time rolling with the homies.

[Claudia]

Rolling with the homies.

[Jackie]

I feel like they said goodbye to Hoda, like, a lot. I feel like ever since she announced, it's been, like, four months of everyone coming on the show, and I feel.

[Claudia]

Like we have fully processed her departure.

[Jackie]

Yeah. Let it go on for, like, a little too long.

[Claudia]

If you had asked me, I would have said she already left.

[Jackie]

No, the fact that she, like they said in the. At the end of the year, but she did a whole week of work of New Year. Yeah. In January.

[Claudia]

Should have, like, been a 2024 EOY farewell.

[Jackie]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Claudia]

But you're like, okay, now it's over.

[Jackie]

But it's a proper goodbye for a woman of her stature.

[Claudia]

I totally agree.

[Jackie]

And, you know, good luck.

[Claudia]

Goodbye. Farewell. Avita Sin. Adieu.

[Jackie]

Adieu, adieu. No, she's really, like, a television icon, a cultural icon, a New York icon. And thank you for your work, Hoda.

[Claudia]

Wonderful final farewell.

[Jackie]

Yeah. Again, goodbye. That's beautiful. Goodbye. I like that vibrato.

[Claudia]

Okay, our fifth and final story is a story and a little bit of Southern charm recap.

[Jackie]

It's a story.

[Claudia]

It's a story. And a little bit.

[Jackie]

That's really good.

[Claudia]

Of Southern Charm recap. Because last night on Southern Charm, which I watched because I wouldn't miss a week, Madison lacroix revealed that her husband Brett found a tumor on his kidney after having thyroid cancer. So Madison shared on the show last night in a FaceTime call with her mom, where not to, like, take away from the moment, like, Madison was looking insanely gorgeous and beautiful. So it's important that everybody clip of this.

[Jackie]

No, I didn't.

[Claudia]

Oh, my God. She's, like, sitting on her porch swing and, like, this beautiful dress with the American flag, like, waving in the wind behind her, like, on FaceTime with her mom, Tom. And I'm sure she didn't, like, Mean to just be so party. So iconic, and I'm just like, literally, like, jaw hit the floor. She posted, like, her look later on Instagram. Like, shop the look. I'm like, click, click, click. Of course the dress is from Tucker Knuck. Of course.

[Jackie]

That's so Madison lacroix.

[Claudia]

It's so Madison lacroix. But she shared some really sad news because her husband's having all these, like, health issues in the last few months. He had thyroid cancer that they thought that they beat, and then he was still, like, having trouble swallowing that he. They found a tumor on his I kidney. So she's just, like. She said this is the hardest year of her life. Like, she's like, I don't know where. How he is like, today, because we're just watching it unfold on the show. But they also had plans to try and have a child this year that have been, like, completely put on hold. So, like, she's just really going through it. She's such a queen. Like, she's literally one of the greatest people on reality tv. And I feel like she. She gets a lot of praise, but, like, not enough.

[Jackie]

No, she gets, like, niche praise, like, within her community, but globally on a global scale. Like, she should be on Traders on a global scale.

[Claudia]

Like, and also, like, the A Rod of it all. I always forget.

[Jackie]

Me too. Some people don't know that JLO and A Rod broke up, literally, because of Madison Lecrae.

[Claudia]

Right. And last night's episode of Southern Term was also pretty Craig and Paige heavy, which is just a coincidence because she doesn't film that much. Like.

[Jackie]

Right. She's not, like, a problem.

[Claudia]

She didn't like going. And you would think someone who's, like, dating someone who's on a reality show, they would come for the whole season and be a part.

[Jackie]

Right.

[Claudia]

She actually, like, really didn't seem to like it so much, but she happened to, like, be in town. They had a party at their house in their backyard. They're being like, you know, Mr. And Mrs. And it just is all going to show, like, everything that we don't have anymore. Yeah. So that was sad. But of course, the episode is good as ever. They actually have some new good cast members who I'm, like, really excited to get to know. More, like, Sally seems like a queen.

[Jackie]

It's actually really crazy the way Southern charm has been able to maintain it's, like, relevance in the Bravo universe, but also, like, its quality of content. Like, because when you think about the shows that it started with, like, Vanderpump Rules. Literally not even on the air anymore. And they had, like, years and years of, like, drab seasons that we all had to sit through. Like, Southern Charm really hasn't experienced that.

[Claudia]

Yeah, they've definitely had, like, highs and lows, and they brought on people who didn't work out. But right now, they've brought on a few new girls who I think are going to be, like, strong. Just reality TV members. They're very much ingrained into, like, the fabric of their lives. Like, literally, Sally has, like, dated or hooked up with every single person that Taylor has, like, dated.

[Jackie]

Like, a rando who needs to be, like, immersed in the group.

[Claudia]

Yeah. Because, like, she had hooked up with Shep. She dated Taylor's, like, the guy that Taylor's dating right now. She had dated him right before. Like, they literally crossed over. And then her new boyfriend. She apparently has a new boyfriend, dated Taylor.

[Jackie]

Wow.

[Claudia]

Like, it's just so much crossover. So, yeah, it's. It's really good. And I. I actually have a soft spot spot for Taylor. I feel like she doesn't help herself sometimes in the show, but, like, I just. I feel like she was a nice person who's gotten carried away and, like, in this life, and I just want happiness for her. And I feel like that happiness isn't on this show, though. That's how I feel.

[Jackie]

That's really hard to watch with, like, one of your faves when, you know the show is, like, sort of holding them back.

[Claudia]

Holding them back from a happy life, not from success and fame.

[Jackie]

And I feel like that's how Naomi was. Like, the show didn't serve her.

[Claudia]

Yeah.

[Jackie]

Towards the end, but it's hard to.

[Claudia]

Walk away from something like that. You make really good money. You have a lot of opportunities. But, like, I think, like, Olivia is no longer on the show. I think she, like, found love and moved on with her life.

[Jackie]

Good, good, good, good.

[Claudia]

You know?

[Jackie]

Yeah.

[Claudia]

So it's still my fave. And anyways, just, like, praying for Madison's family.

[Jackie]

I love her.

[Claudia]

I love her.

[Jackie]

Well, those were the past five stories, and you definitely needed to know every single one of them. But what you really do need to know is Queenie and Weenie of the week.

[Claudia]

You do. And I just want to say, another loss for burgeoning friendship between Paige and Madison.

[Jackie]

Agreed.

[Claudia]

Because, like, I think that was one of Paige's favorite parts about Charleston was, like, she would get together with Madison. Like, they would always, like, come to the house or double date and, like.

[Jackie]

And, like, that's someone on her level. Like, like glamorous, wise brain, like, personality, funny. Yeah. It's hard to find someone on your level.

[Claudia]

I'm sure they'll stay friendly, but, like, of course it's going to peter out. She's not in her city every other week and that's a loss for the community.

[Jackie]

Thousand percent. Now, speaking of the community, a way Jackie and I like to give back to the community is our weekly segment, Queenie and Weenie of the Week. Every Friday, we like to wrap up the week, take a look at the week at a glance, and give out an award to somebody who acted like a queenie this week and somebody who acted like a weenie this week. Now, it is a temporary title. It's not meant to be so serious. Like, obviously the people who are starting fires in la, like, they're not Weenies of the Week, like, they're the criminals of the week. And so this is not reserved for them. It's all in good fun. You could be Queenie one week, we need the next. We need one week, we need the next. It's ever happened, but those things are possible now. Jackie, tell me who you chose for Queenie of the Week.

[Claudia]

My Queenie of the Week, lest we not forget, was Nikki Glaser crushing it at the Golden Globes. She had a great week and she deserves all the accolades. And she did a job that is apparently really hard because nobody can fucking do it.

[Jackie]

I also chose Nikki Glaser as my Weenie of the Week. I forgot that that was this week. Excuse me, Queenie. Oh, my God. Freudian slip. I forgot that that was this week. But the way she made me feel like that is valuable. Like I was actually laughing. I just cannot remember a time where I watched something that I thought was genuinely funny. It's like sometimes you're like, ha, ha. But it was so funny. She was. Made me proud as a woman, as a podcaster. Like, she was just. And she looked gorgeous while doing it. And she's like continuing to like, make waves and why not Howard Stern, like, it's been brilliantly done. She is a friend of the toast. You should listen to her on the toast. She was great. And I love her, love her very much.

[Claudia]

Queenie behavior. And on my weenie, like Claudia said, like, typically when someone has like committed a crime or done something illegal or hurt somebod body, like, they're not a weenie. They're just like a terrible person. And this is meant to be more light hearted. And I do think like a weenie who has emerged from this California wildfire situation is David Mirror. We didn't even talk about.

[Jackie]

Oh, my God, that is so funny. I didn't know what you were gonna say.

[Claudia]

Yeah, like, of course, like, they have done, like, really been negligent in their duty. That's not where it's not like, weenie behavior, weedy behavior. Is David Muir wearing a firefighter's jacket to do his broadcast on the California wildfires? And he, like, has it, like, clipped in the back to be, like, cinched. Way cinched pecs to be, like, looking like, I don't know, handsome firefighter.

[Jackie]

So he's like, what happened?

[Claudia]

Playing.

[Jackie]

Okay. What had happened was that, like, David Muir during the election cycle, I think there was a lot of people's introduction to him. So I obviously, like, I know him.

[Claudia]

Because tonight he's like a.

[Jackie]

Well, he's always on before Jeopardy. But, like, he's not. I wouldn't say he was like, so famous as, like, a person and, like, people didn't like, have crushes on him, but he was making. He moderated one of the presidential elections. He had, like, a good year.

[Claudia]

Okay.

[Jackie]

And I think it brought him into popular culture. He existed very much as, like, a big fish in his pond. But I think a lot of people were like, oh, who's this daddy? And there was a lot of complimentary, you know, content about.

[Claudia]

He's a good looking guy.

[Jackie]

Extremely. And he's like, you know, quaffed. He wears, like, he definitely wears makeup. He has, like, his hair slicked back. And I think he liked that attention for sure. Like, who literally, who wouldn't? When your job is, like, so boring and, like, you're probably always getting yelled at by, like, everybody on your side, everybody on the other side. And so I could see how he fell down the slippery slope and ended up with a cinch waist. I could see it's so human of David Mirror.

[Claudia]

And I feel like he would probably say, like, this is what they wanted for me. Like, they wanted, like, the firefighting news.

[Jackie]

He's doing it for the community.

[Claudia]

Yeah. But he wore a fireman's jacket to broadcast in front of the fires, which, like, where did he get that jacket? Amazon.

[Jackie]

It was jacket. It was. No, it was monogrammed. Abc. Like ABC made it for the newscasters.

[Claudia]

Okay, well, I guess they're in a dangerous situation, so maybe you need fire.

[Jackie]

It's protective.

[Claudia]

You need fireproof. But he used clips in the back. And he turns at one point. You can see that he cinched the jacket to make it look like tighter and Buffer.

[Jackie]

And by the way, I read a lot of commentary about it, because this is, like, something fairly common that you do in, like, wardrobe for tv, because, like, people share clothes. You can't have things. Things tailored. They're borrowed. So you will take, like, you know those binder clips that you used to use in, like, high school?

[Claudia]

Yeah.

[Jackie]

You will take it and, like, make something fit.

[Claudia]

Like, or clothes pin clip is like.

[Jackie]

That'S what he was using. And so people are like, well, this isn't a big deal. It's really normal. And, like, while. Actually, I agree, it is, like, a very typical, like, TV wardrobe thing to do. The level of cinching was definitely extreme. No.

[Claudia]

But also, in the midst of firefighting, like, who's worried about how the jacket hugs you? Yeah, no, it was a weenie move, like, very. You hate to see.

[Jackie]

And you know what? If he didn't turn around and show us the pin, I wouldn't have thought much about the level of tightness of his jacket. But now that it's been cinched and I'm looking, I'm like, why is your jacket so tight? It's, like, literally, it's like a protective vest. Like, it doesn't need to, but it's.

[Claudia]

Like something that you throw in to protect yourself while you're out here, like, covering news, fighting fires, helping people, saving lives. And it's like, oh, you cinch the waist.

[Jackie]

Yeah.

[Claudia]

And if we never saw it, we would have never known. We'd be like, damn, he really fills out that jacket.

[Jackie]

Yeah, the daddy over here. Fire daddy.

[Claudia]

That's what he was going for. And he just turned a few too many degrees.

[Jackie]

So embarrassing.

[Claudia]

And it.

[Jackie]

That's a really good one.

[Claudia]

You look like a weenie.

[Jackie]

My weenie is kind of mean.

[Claudia]

Oh, okay.

[Jackie]

But it's Allison Holker, boss. Or Allison Holker, dropped the boss three days later, boss. You know, I hate to be like, you know, this person, but I would be lying if I didn't say, like, you know, the last couple of years of her content and, like, interviews, like, didn't, like, rub me in a weird way, you know, ever. You don't want to say anything mean because, like, it's. You know, everybody does, you know, the grief their own way, but I've always been like, it's kind of thirsty. But you would never say.

[Claudia]

You would never have made her weenie of the week. Like, no.

[Jackie]

But now, like, to have the mother of your deceased husband, like, have to release a statement about you is so weenie. It's so Bad faith. And it, it kind of confirms, I think, what a lot of people's like instinct, gut reactions to some of her choices over the last couple of years. Because I've thought like, but I would never say. But now knowing like her mother in law, brother in law, your husband's ex, friends, like, they, they all think we're. Oh, I agree. Like, we all were like sensing.

[Claudia]

So now we've said it.

[Jackie]

And so now he said it. The releasing of someone's journal entries is so it's such a crazy thing to do. Like, the more you really, truly think about it, especially if this person, it's. It's actually, it's up for debate. If he was dealing with this thing like so many people in his life are saying, actually, like, he wasn't. But even if he was, like, it's just, it's such a, like actually low thing to do.

[Claudia]

I agree.

[Jackie]

So I'm sorry. It's Weenie.

[Claudia]

It's Weenie.

[Jackie]

That's Queenie and Weenie. That is our show. Thank you. I love how you've been writing that in your notebook.

[Claudia]

I have my notebook. So I wrote down Queen Amy and then hopefully I do it every week and then by the end of the year I'll be able to see every single one.

[Jackie]

Oh, I love that do.

[Claudia]

I'm gonna write down yours.

[Jackie]

Yeah.

[Claudia]

Okay.

[Jackie]

We just are writing more things down.

[Claudia]

I love writing things down.

[Jackie]

So my Queenie was Nikki and then my weenie was Allison.

[Claudia]

And then also we're gonna look back and be like, who's Allison?

[Jackie]

Literally. That's our show. You guys, thank you so much for listening to the toast of Monday morning show where we Deliver the Fast5 stories you need to know every Monday through Friday and YouTube. So if you're watching this on YouTube, please feel free to subscribe and give us video a thumbs up. We are also available as podcast anywhere podcast can be found. So it's Spotify, Tune, Central Public Radio, Cast books, all the place. Leave a five star review about how beautiful sounding and wickedly talented we are.

[Claudia]

Love ya. Bye.