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Good morning, millennials.
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Welcome back to the toast and Happy Friday. First Friday in the new studio. I don't know how long, like, we're gonna have to do shows before I stop remarking on the new studio at the beginning of every single episode until.
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Milestones stop being reached. Like, next week, it'll be the first February episode in the new studio.
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And by the way, it's gonna be a while, because I cannot wait for my first period.
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Oh, my gosh.
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On this couch in this very feminine space. I feel like it's gonna be really hard.
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Very feminine.
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A thousand. I. Literally, the studio kind of looks like the inside of a vagina. Like, if you were to, like, you know, like, some TV shows, they're, like your vagina on the inside, and they, like, would make it look like this. Very, like, you know, like a fruit. Right. Literally us.
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Literally us. That is so beautiful. We are so feminine. I do look forward to that milestone for you and, like, how this chair really accommodates a woman on her period, on her time. And I guess when, like, goes against what I believe, two paths diverge.
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Are you on your period? She may or may not be on her period.
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Just, like, I would love to contribute to this conversation, but, like, it goes against my belief, so.
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Okay. So, by the way, we would never pressure anybody to go against their beliefs on this chair.
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Right. But I'm just saying, like, it may or may not have already been done and confirmed that it's a pleasant experience.
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And speaking of unpleasant experiences, yesterday was my official moving day. I know you guys are like, trudy, you've been moving out of your old studio for a month, and I have. But yesterday, like, I officially brought, like, all my old crap to this new pargy place, which is making me sad.
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You took it out of the closet there to put it in the closet here to never see it again. Except for if we ever make a toast museum and we need all of these old merch pieces. And that is why Zach has a whole closet full of my old merch.
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Exactly. And I can't lie.
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When I do it, I'll do it for toast museum.
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I did absolutely nothing in the move. Like, I didn't even meet the movers. Like, they were literally in and out. So easy. Of course. We are a Roadway integrated brand. It's like, my fourth move with Roadway. They really were so party. But upon walking into the studio today, I was like, oh, all the old stuff, Like, I don't want it. I only want my new stuff, you know?
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Yeah. But sometimes I was just Kind of.
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Like I was accosted by like my old life. I'm like, get out of here.
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Yeah. But it's. Think about the herstory.
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No. And I've just had, like a pit in my stomach about this day for like the last couple of weeks. Cause it's like years and years of all of our stuff acquiring in that studio. And, you know, it was our studio. And then I was left to sort of do the move by myself. And thankfully I wasn't by myself and I wasn't stressed out thanks to Roadway.
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Thank you, Roadway, for being there for my sister. And I feel like people, everyone knows Roadway like it's the go to moving company. But let's me not forget, they moved me across the country too. So if you're in any part of the country and you need to move, call up your boy codes. And girls, I'm so glad.
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I'm so glad you brought that up. I have a code.
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Oh, thank you.
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The toast 10. The toast 1 0. You get 10% off local moves and 5% off long distance moves. Moving can be stressful, but with Roadway, it doesn't have to be.
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Love that for us and I love that for you. Just a little integration. Vertical integration. Jack Donaghy would be proud.
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You have big plans for the weekend? It's Friday. It's like, kind of. Because I've been doing so much, I haven't even been able to acknowledge that it's Friday. I'm just. I'm just busy, you know.
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So my big plans for the weekend started like two nights ago when the flu has hit our household. And that's what I'll be doing this weekend is bearing down with the flu and getting through. So, yeah, any plans I might have had, which thankfully I didn't really have any, like, we'll just be home, chilling, relaxing, recovering, cozy. Recovering, God willing. So that's what I've been up to that, like, since we wrapped yesterday. I've just been in Flandia. I've actually watched a lot of tv if anybody wants like a Paw Patrol recap.
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Oh, that kind of tv.
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Or Spidey and his amazing friends recap or a Bevin recap.
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I actually don't want a Spidey and his amazing friends recap. I can't stress that enough. And it's really sad. And I think maybe this is something you can probably relate to on a deeper level, is like, you love to see your kids enjoying things, right? And so, like, when all the kids in our family became obsessed with Spidey, I'm like, oh, that's so cute. What a nice hobby. Spidey's a good role model, even though him and his friends, like, are never supervised and they're literally six years old. Um, and the way I've come to fucking hate that group of kids because you have the books every. If music's playing in your house, it's the album and now the TV show. Like, I. I really can't stress how I want to kill Peter Parker and his annoying loser friends. Ghost Spider and what's the other one?
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Same spin. Miles Morales.
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The only one in the characters that I don't despise is Tracy.
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Tracy.
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Because Tracy who, like, exists. He's like a tarantula that lives at the webquarters.
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He's their robot. He's like, you know, spider. He's a spider. Yeah, he's a spider shaped robot.
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Oh, wait, he's a terrace spider. Oh, man, am I dumb. Yeah, he, like. He's kind of like the tech guy. He's like the one who's like, you're in.
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Yeah, he's like.
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They're like, tracy, help us out of here.
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He's Merlin from Kingsman. When they get older, they'll get that reference.
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He's the. He's Riley from National Treasure. I just rewatched National Treasure over the weekend, me and Ben, and it's Ben's favorite movie. And for some reason, anything Ben likes, I automatically is like, okay, that sucks. Like, feel.
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Sorry, I just.
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Yeah, I just assume everything Ben's obsessed with, like, is a piece of shit. Are your overhead lights on?
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No.
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Oh, okay. Okay. Sorry. You scared me. Okay. Sorry. Sorry. Tech. Tech department reared her ugly head. Sorry. So when National Treasure was on cable and I was like, let's watch it, I was honestly, like, in the mood to scroll on my phone anyway. So I was like, sure. Yeah. It was, you know, an opportunity for me to be agreeable. Let me tell you, I was absolutely dazzled by this film. So much so I was so mad that we watched it on cable instead of, like, starting it from the beginning on Disney. Because then the next night, we watched National Treasure 2 on Disney. Like, no commercials.
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No commercials. And cable takes out bits and bobs. Yeah, they cut it.
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Let me tell you, that film is amazing. And one, you're actually learning stuff. You know, you are learning a lot about American history. It is stacked cast. I mean, the leading lady. Do you know who it is?
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No.
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What's her name?
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Claire Danes.
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Now I'm feeling like maybe it's not her who? I thought it was the girly who was married to Joshua Jackson Krueger. Is it not? Actually, I feel like it's not. Is it. Is she a national treasure, or is it, like, seriously a lookalike? No, it's her. It's her.
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Okay.
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Yeah. Okay, I think I got that.
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She's great. She's great.
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Jon Voight plays his dad.
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He's great.
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And then Angelina's dad. And then in the first movie, the big villain who, like, they're fighting against for the Declaration of Independence. Ned Stark.
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Not Ned Stark being the villain. No.
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It is stacked. It is stacked, and it's so good. It stands the test of time. Family friendly. Like, if you have a kid who's, like, into history, like, I'm telling you, we are collectively sleeping on the National Treasure.
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I feel like the country is not sleeping on it. I feel good knowing that. Like, I feel like it's up there as a national treasure 100 and no.
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I think when we remark on it culturally, we, like, make fun of, like, I'm gonna steal the Declaration of Independence. And we make fun of, like, Nicholas.
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Cage, a part of our DNA as a people. And Nicholas Cage, like, he never has to work again because he was National Treasure. Like, I feel like he gets his flowers.
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When we finished the second movie, we were like, okay, let's do the third and come to find three Claudia.
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If somebody movie.
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Okay, there isn't. And there was, like, drama around it, too. I, like, was doing a brief, like, research and development mission on Google, and they were, like, gonna make it, and then nobody wants to do it, and then they were gonna make it into a TV series. It was a kind of turn. It was cursed. So I feel like there was bad interpersonal relationships on the set of National Treasure, and that gives me a pit.
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You know what you should watch if you want more National Treasure vibes. I didn't watch the movie, but I read the book, and I think the movie, like, is Harry Potter level of adaptation. The Da Vinci Code. It's, like France's national treasure, but it's like, art.
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Oh, you know what? That's actually a good recommendation.
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I think that's what you should watch.
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My goal this weekend is to watch the Brutalist. I don't know how, like, if anybody. Like, I don't obviously support pirating, but if any of our listeners are, like, sad members who get a screener. But, you know, SAG members are, like, really, really strict about that. Like, we texted Josh. We were like, hey, like, do you happen to have One of those.
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Hey, Tasha.
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I get approved SAG approved screeners because we just watched the episode of Curb where Larry's screeners get stolen and pirated on the Internet, and he literally goes to prison. So I was reminded that, like, actors get back in the day. In the Larry David episode, it was DVDs, but today they get a link. And we were like, hey, Josh, how's it going?
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How's the fam?
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Like, he's already an Oppenheimer. He definitely gets screeners. He literally did not even answer us. That's how seriously he takes it. You know, he would do anything for men, but not that well.
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Maybe he also knew, like, you would tell this story on the toast. Like, I watched a brutalist because Josh Peck sent me his sat.
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No, by the way, if he had given it to me, I would never have said how I got it. Of course.
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Yeah. But if people were looking into it, it's a pretty clear connection. It's a straight path to Josh Peck.
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Well, but maybe I would have lied and said, like, I went to the movies, like, a little lie like that just to protect Josh's, like, identity.
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I agree.
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Yeah. Well, to be clear for any of the Hollywood bigwigs listening, like, Josh totally respects the SAG system. He didn't even answer his best friend, his brother. And I still haven't seen the brutalist, so.
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So you'll watch the Da Vinci Code. It was nominated for movie of the year 15 years ago, and I believe it. That's classic us.
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And, yeah, we're just a little behind.
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I don't want it to get, like, lost in the mix that I read the Da Vinci Code. I just want to push that you forth again. You did set that code.
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Kind of scurry past that very interesting fact.
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I did. And much like you and Diemer. Copperhead. Diemer. I. I read it one, because it looked good and two, because I wanted people to know I was reading it. So, of course. Of course it's been two years, but I think we should circle back to that point. And I'm. I'm glad to let you guys know.
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Like, it.
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It's really good. Like, it holds up.
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Speaking of Barbara Kingsolver and the Da Vinci Copperhead on Jeopardy. A couple of days ago, there was a category, like, literary. Like, Pulitzer something like, really? Me and Ben sort of just, like, tuned out. And the first one was, like, looking for the author of Demon Copperhead.
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I forget how to remember her name.
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Of course I could, Jackie. I remember every fact of that book, like, because it was my personality for six months. And I was like, who is Kingsolver?
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Was Ben gooped and gagged?
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Gooped and, like, he hit the floor. He was like, why? How did you know that? I'm like, oh, you see that book on the windowsill? It's literally on my windowsill. I display it because I'm so proud. It's right next to Mike, the situations book. I said, you see that book over there? Pulitzer. Okay, Pulitzer.
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Did it win the Pulitzer, or was it just nominated?
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No, it won. No. Oh, my God.
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No, no, no. I don't know. I'm just asking.
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Demon Copperhead, Pulitzer.
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And then what won the next year? Like, maybe we should do that. Maybe that's the one.
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The fiction. The fiction prize in 2023.
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Okay, what won the fiction Pulitzer in 2024? Maybe that would be, like, a good place to start for a book rec.
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Night Watch by Jane Ann Phillips. A beautifully rendered novel set in West Virginia. Wow, they really love the. What's that region called?
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The Appalachia. The great American novel in the aftermath.
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Of the Civil War.
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Night Watch. It's called. Yeah, Night. Two words. Night Watch.
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Am I speaking English?
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I found it. Sorry, it wasn't coming up on Goodreads. I'll put it on my. Want to read? Sure.
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Then demon copperhead in 2023. Oh, demon copperhead was a tie. Someone else Trust by Hernan Diaz. A riveting novel set in a bygone America that explores family, wealth, and ambition through linked narratives. Rendered. Okay, seriously, that's not even English. I don't know. It's a book.
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Oh, wait. Club. This looks good. Like an unparalleled novel about money, power, intimacy, and perception. Like, aren't we all?
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That does sound good. That's not how they described it on pulitzer.org.
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Just letting you know I'm hitting the.
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Want to read in 2022, a book called the Netanyahu's by Joshua Cohen.
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Oh, how scary.
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I know. 2021, the night watchmen. That's weird.
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Yeah, they obviously are. Have, like, a favoritism.
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I'm just literally scrolling to see if there's a book I do recognize. Yes. 25, 2015, all the light. We cannot see one of, like, the most popular Holocaust books of all time. And then in 2014, the goldfinch. That was made into a movie, right?
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Yes, it was.
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Those are the ones that I recognize going back to the early 2000s. Yeah.
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Okay. Well, thank you for that little literary lesson.
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I did, like, a podcast that talks about surprise wedding. Like these other. Could Never.
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These other could never, in any given episode. Pulitzer, Sports, fashion.
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Do you think the Da Vinci Code went a Pulitzer? Like, have we both read, like, two different. I know you also read Stephen Copperhead.
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But I don't think Da Vinci Code would have won a Pulitzer. I feel like it was too mainstream.
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Yeah. Yeah. I feel like there are commercials for the Da Vinci Code.
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Right. It's like Harry Potter winning the Pulitzer. Which it could have, maybe should have.
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Oh, no. God forbid, like, something popular wins an award.
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Well, that's why, like, Demon Copperhead was popular. Popular.
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You're gonna be popular. Oh, my God. I got the funniest email this morning.
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Oh.
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It was forwarded to me. It was a Dear Toaster submission. I have to read it too. Okay. I know it's, like, not toasters. It's not funny enough for Dear Toasters, and it's, like, personal to me. Oh, hey, Jackson Turd. Longtime listener, first time writer. I love you, but I'm writing in with some real beef. I listened to your glowing review of the movie the Substance. Turd said she'd never seen anything like it, and I took her word for it. Because of this, I decided to watch this on a third date with a guy I really like, and he almost vomited at multiple points throughout the experience. Do I acknowledge the fact that with this potential suitor that. That he cannot protect me in my time of need, or do we just avoid scary movies for the rest of our courtship? P S. Demi deserves to win the award. PSS thanks for warning about the Third Boob. Yeah. It is a very, very graphic film in terms of, like, needles and skin and blood. And I know people do, do have, like, physical reactions to that. But, like, honestly, I feel like this is good for you. Let me reposition. Because she said she really, really liked him.
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No. And it puts you in, like, in a position of power. Like, now he's feeling, like, weak and small and embarrassed and, like, you. You have the upper hand.
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Yeah. And, like, you probably got, like, a little bit of the ick. Not enough to, like, stop liking him. It's not his fault. But, like, you can't even watch a movie without throwing up. Like, what are you, six? So now I feel like you have a little bit, like, of a less of a power imbalance between you and this guy. Like, you're on equal playing fields now.
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Yeah. Your crush has been tempered a little bit, which is good for you. And he's, like, wanting to impress you now, and that's.
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You're welcome.
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Yeah. And that's Just a good thing to know about a potential partner. Like, if they are a queasy, tight. Yeah, it does bring me back to, like, Dana's birth story.
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Dana's birth story, which will live in infamy in my personal mind till the end of time.
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Dana's birth story is on the redheads episode of our October episode. But just like to cut to the chase, her husband fainted in the delivery room, and he decided to look over.
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Behind the curtain of a C section, which they tell you not to do. Literally, your entire body is open.
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Right. Not only did he faint, which is very inconvenient, but, like, he hit his head on the way down and had to go across the street to the other part of the hospital to. To get stitches. So he wasn't even with her for, like, multiple hours after she gave birth.
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Dana said that they had to take him from the hospital to the emergency room, which is on the other side of the street in an ambulance.
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That's insane.
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It is truly one of the craziest birth stories I've ever heard in my life.
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So now that you have this, like, red flag about this boyfriend that you have, this is good. Just, like, make sure when you're giving birth, like, he is not near behind the curtain, the scene.
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Yeah. How are the stories today?
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Random, but good. And I think we'll put a nice button on the week.
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Oh, you know what? I've been targeted with a lot of content. I actually meant to download and send it to you, but I'm so over doing that. I can't. Like, I actually can't stress how over it I am, but a lot. And I feel like it's so unfair when people do this. Like, when we find out something about someone, then you go back and watch all their content through that lens. You're like, well, look, we could have told you.
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And it's Matt James.
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Yes. It's all this old TikTok reels content from Matt James and Rachel. And now knowing what we know about their relationship and just, like, how imbalanced it was, and he was kind of, like, unemotional, maybe, like a little mean. If you watch his content, which was supposed to be, like, at the time, fun and playful, Nobody thought anything at the time. Now, through that lens, it really is like, I hate to be that person. Like, it's really. It's bad. Like, there was this video I saw this morning of him, like, pushing her in the pool, fully clothed, fully dressed. And I. Kind of hard.
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Okay. I didn't.
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In front of his mom. In front of his mom and, like, giggling. It was just like, okay, I'm of.
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Two minds and I haven't watched the video, so maybe if I watch them, I'd have a different opinion, but just, like, on its face. Here's my issue. Yes, sometimes when you have more information, you can go back and look in things in a different lens and it casts a different light on them. However, all of this stuff was posted on social media in the last three years. All of you guys were watching it. Every millions of people saw it, and nobody once said anything. So now it's, like, so concerning to you. Whereas a year ago, he pushed his fully clothed girlfriend into the pool and nobody said for one second, like, hey, that's wrong now. I didn't see the video then, I didn't see it now. So this is not my personal problem. But it's not like, these are, like, super old things, like, everybody's been watching. So now you want to, like, compile something and make it look a certain way. And yes, perhaps it is exactly that way. I'm holding space for that, but I'm also holding space for the fact that this is something that people do. You hadn't not seen these videos and they weren't a red flag to you when you saw them, so. So just consider that you could do that with really anything. You could.
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I know it's hard not to get caught up.
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You could clip this show and find a bunch of moments so true of us bullying each other and saying the girls hate each other.
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Yeah, no, we're, like, always calling each other fat and ugly. We really are.
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Because we. Because we are fat and ugly.
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Well, speak for yourself. I'm just. I'm just fat.
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So I'm just.
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Yeah, no, I know what I mean. But it's hard not to get caught, like, swept up in the narrative, like, of, like, making stuff up.
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As someone who hasn't watched the videos, I'm not swept up in it, but I could also see myself watching the videos and be like, oh, this is bad. I take back what I said. But it just does raise the question of, like, why nobody thought those videos were weird in the last three years. Like, you're the same. You still have eyes. It's on the same platform. Like, he was posting them. It's not like he was caught out like this. So I heard there was, like, videos of him filming her eating, and she's obviously, like, doesn't want to be filmed.
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You know, she's just like, can we eat?
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Where was anyone saying, any of this when it was happening literally three weeks ago. Three weeks ago, he was.
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No, it's. It's a factual point she brings up.
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So I'll leave you with that. Jury's out.
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It's Friday, which means we also have Queenie and Weenie. And when I tell you I'm so fucking excited for Queenie and Weenie, Mine came to me yesterday and, like, wrote it down. And, you know. And you just, like, know you're about to slay. Like, I was writing it down. Like, that'll show them.
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I just want to say, like, you've really set the bar high for yourself now.
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And just to be clear, you in particular are going to.
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I'm going to what? Laugh.
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Like you're gonna laugh.
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Oh, I'm really excited. So you're saying the bar will be met?
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Yeah, I think I'm gonna be doing the uneven bars pretty much. That's what I think.
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Okay. I look forward to seeing that.
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You should.
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I. I do.
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Good. Because you will.
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Okay. Well, I guess without further ado, to do. Would you say it is time?
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I would. I would for sure.
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For the fact I forgot to move my rodecaster again. So I still don't know. I'm flying blind here.
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You know, by the way, I could tell you I have the timer.
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Yeah. And, you know, I'm just. I'm going by how I feel. I'm trusting my body. I'm listening to my.
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Okay. Sexy podcast.
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When it's time to reposition my legs, it's time for the Fast 5 stories that you need to know.
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Thank you. Slash churt.
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What can I say except you're welcome.
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We did watch Moana as well. And I've got to see that scene. It's fresh as a daisy in my mind.
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That's actually like one of my least favorite scenes in the film.
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What's your favorite scene?
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See the light. Where the sky meets the sea it calls me. That's my favorite scene.
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Baby Moana. She's so cute.
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She's so cute.
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She's so cute. Okay, our first story is some new couple news. NCN Kaia Gerber has wasted no time and she was spotted out with Lewis Pullman, who plays Cal in lessons in chemistry. He's like the crazy mad scientist.
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Oh, he's from Challengers.
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He's from Challengers. If you've watched challenges.
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Is he.
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Is he.
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Sorry, wait.
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To me, he's less chemistry. Yeah.
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Okay, how are we spelling Lewis L.
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E W, I S. And how are we spelling Pullman the way that it sounds?
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Pullman.
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Pull man.
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Oh, I'm sorry. No, that is not from Challengers. Excuse me, I got confused. Challengers is the guy who played Prince Chart Young Prince Charles in the crown.
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Understood. I do feel like Lewis Pullman was also in the crown in some way, but we're getting off track from this.
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Is such like a random guy for her to date.
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Well, she's now spending time with Lewis Pullman. They were spotted hanging out at an L A restaurant on his birthday. Lewis's father, who was also an actor, Bill Pullman was also in attendance.
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So running Bill.
A
So many things in that one sentence. One. He's a Fellow Nepo baby. And I feel like on that level they'll definitely connect. They'll have a lot in common. And to talk about two, she's with him on his birthday. It was his 32nd birthday, so that's kind of serious. And she's met the father. All of this in literally four weeks since they announced their split. But let's we not forget, her and Austin probably broke up in December, if not before that.
B
I googled the dad. I don't know him and I don't think you will either. But he's like a very accomplished sort of character actor. He's done a lot of work for, like, many years on different TV shows. I'm excited for, like, the Kaia Gerber single girl era. This is so unexpected. Like, because even like, her choosing Austin Butler, like, was so obvious. I feel like anytime she's been spotted with someone like Pete Davidson, she goes for the obvious choices, which I kind of hate. Like, I personally find that boring. So her going for like this absolute rando, kind of obsessed. Kind of obsessed. I'll leave it at that.
A
I'm into this as well, mostly because I love Lessons in Chemistry and maybe if he was like a random actor in a similar caliber show that I didn't watch, like, I wouldn't be as jazzed about this. But because I watched Lessons in Chemistry and it's such a good book and such a good show, it was a great show and he plays a really great character. I'm just going to like, assume that he's very similar to his character Calvin. Calvin. And therefore, ergo, I'm going to ship wholeheartedly.
B
So random. But you know what this just reminded me of? I was scrolling tick tock this morning. I actually saw a bit of tea. A bit of it was a clip from Watch what happens live. Austin Kroll was on.
A
So it's a story.
B
Oh.
A
Leading into our fifth, our Southern Charm recap.
B
Because, you know, okay, so I'll shut my big fat mouth. Sorry.
A
You know, I didn't miss Southern Charm.
B
No, she never does. I FaceTimed her. She's like on the couch watching Southern Charm.
A
I'm like, okay, I could be anywhere in the world anytime. And like, if Southern Charm is on, I'm seriously watching with commercials.
B
But you're not gonna be anywhere in the world. Like, you're gonna be home.
A
No, but like, I'm just saying, the constant in my life and all different, like, Southern Charm has been on for a long time. I've lived in many different places. I've been many different people and I'll always watch it is what I'm saying.
B
That's beautiful.
A
It's a constant, really.
B
Back to Kaia Gerber. I. I just can't get over, like the sheer random nature of this pairing. Although I'm not mad at it at all. I agree. If it was like an actor from a show I didn't watch, I would seriously be like clowning on this so hard right now. But he's a p job and I feel like this will be really good for his career. He was an excellent actor in that show. I haven't seen him in anything else since then, so I don't know if it's been like, you know, maybe he lost some of the momentum and this might pick it back up.
A
Actually knowing that now his dad is just a working, successful actor makes me feel like he's got things figured out, like career path wise. Like, he doesn't have to be Austin Butler and no, everybody knows my name. It's like, no, I'm gonna work and I just love the crowd and I'm.
B
Gonna make a living and I don't need to be the most famous person on the planet.
A
Right. He was also in Top Gun. Maverick. Good. Yeah. He was obviously Louis or Bill Lewis.
B
Let me look that right up.
A
I think he's at the beginning of a blossoming career.
B
I would hope so.
A
I really do.
B
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. He's like the nerdy one who takes off his glasses and everybody realizes he's handsome.
A
Yeah.
B
Oh, that's cute. Okay, so you know what?
A
He's on his way and I feel like he's actually the opposite of Austin in the sense of like, Austin was all glitz and glam. Like, the roles, even though he was in like three major pictures, like, the roles weren't there. Lewis is not glitz and glam, but, like, the roles are there. I feel.
B
Yeah. I think what's more insulting than like your ex of many years going on to date someone so polar opposite of you? Like, I think a lot of like girls and guys have a type and they end up dating people who are all kind of like different versions of the same person, whether that's looks wise or personality wise, career wise. So for her to pull like a complete like three point turn and go to this absolute random, like, dude.
A
Yeah.
B
I wonder, like, what does that say about Austin? I could see her and you planted this in my mind. And I will blame you for it forever because it totally changed the way that I looked at Austin Butler because You were like. And you said it when you said it, like you had like insider information. But I think.
A
Tell me what I said and I'll let you know where he got it from.
B
That he's just like a really thirsty social climber. And like part of his relationship with Kaya is that obviously he likes her. What's not to like? But she is, you know, from a Hollywood royalty family and he's like constantly climbing the ladder from like using these women, Vanessa Ann, Kya, like using them to leverage his own career.
A
I, like, I don't know where I got that idea, but I agree with it. And I also feel like I got that idea from you. Like, I feel like we fed off of each other.
B
No, I. You totally brought it up. We have to go find the episode. It's live on the podcast. I had no idea what you were talking about. And ever since then I just see him like that. It was such a good call. I could totally see him being that way. And I feel like how he treated Vanessa Ann is actually.
A
No, I, Yeah, I. Maybe I think it just tracks. Like he was with vanessa and for 10 years and then he what, like, got. I don't even know why they broke up. And then he's like super successful and dating.
B
Dating like the hottest young model because.
A
Like that's the, that's been his trajectory. That's why I think that.
B
Yeah. By the way, I'm not mad at you. I completely agree. So having said that, I can see Kya, like maybe over the course of their relationship, like, kind of like, like she was like starting to get like onto him, you know, and now she just wants to be so different than that because this guy, Lewis Pullman, I don't know him personally, but he just doesn't give thirsty social climber vibes.
A
Yeah.
B
And I like that for Kya. I do.
A
I do as well. Plus, don't forget, she's a nerd.
B
Right? She has a book club.
A
She reads. She actually does, like, read a lot. For real. But she also wants you to know, like, she's not just a model, she is a nerd.
B
What is it with these like 6 foot tall gazelles who are beautiful, born into wealth and fame, who are just like desperate for us to know that they are also nerds like Kendall Jenner. Of course, Kaia Gerber comes to mind. And they're always in every interview. I'm actually. And now they don't say it so much anymore because it's become like a cliche. People used to call it out and it became, like, a whole trend. That's how the whole Internet, not like other girls thing started.
A
Carly boss.
B
Yeah. Like, I'm a nerd. Like, I like computers. And then Kendall's like, no, no. Me and my friends, like, we are nerds. Like, we just love to paint. And Kai is like, on a Saturday night, Like, I'm kind of a nerd. Like, you'll probably catch me, like, cozying up with a good book.
A
I don't know what that is. And even though that is, it's probably true. Like, okay, you're reading like, you're not a nerd.
B
Not only that, you're not. I. I don't find that admirable. Like, if I'm Kaia Gerber, if I'm Kendall Jenner, if I'm Karlie Kloss, if I'm born either, like, so perfect looking or into, like, a perfect family, like, with wealth and fame, like, I'm a lot of things. I'm not becoming a nerd. Like, you couldn't drag me back to nerd dumb. Like, I'm becoming a coke whore. I'm becoming, like, a sexy. I'm doing all of the things that, like, only girls who look like that can get away with. Like, please, there are. Like, we are good. The nerd community is good. Like, go. Do you.
A
Are you a nerd?
B
No.
A
Because you said we are.
B
I was speaking on behalf of a community that I like. But, no, I don't identify with.
A
Yeah. I don't identify as a nerd. And I've never feel, like, called to.
B
No. And I do feel bad for, like, nerds, because I think the word has become, like, cringe. Yeah.
A
Yeah. Are you ready for our next story? Are you ready for our next story? It's actually a follow up to yesterday's story because Chiara Ferragne is in the news for a.
B
Meant to tell you about this, to bring it up as a story.
A
As we were talking about her business issues yesterday, her Instagram stories must have been expiring where. Where she went in on the fact that she's no longer with Fidez and what happened between them.
B
So we were right to say that, like, there was something going on. And yesterday she literally just told us everything because there's also, like, a. An Italian podcaster slash journalist who has been, like, exposing this, like, doing episodes. I don't know if it's, like, in conjunction with Kiara, but exposing Fedez and what he's done.
A
Yes. So on Wednesday, January 29, she decided to break her silence and open up like never before through her Instagram. In a series of four Instagram stories, she shared what she went through during her seven year marriage with Fedez and admitting that she tolerated, quote, disrespect and justified wrong behavior in the name of love. For months, I chose to stay silent to protect myself and my family from two situations that have deeply affected me. But I can't keep quiet anymore. I spent seven years in a relationship where I loved without limits, loved even when there were so many reasons to walk away. I put up with situations where I would have told any friend, don't do this to yourself. Because to me, love also meant sacrifice. I kept excusing disrespect and justifying the wrong behavior to protect him, to protect our family, to protect our relationship, because I always saw myself as the strong one, the independent one, the one who had to hold it all together. She also admitted that she chose to stay silent to avoid the public fallout that the situation could cause. What shocked people the most was the confirmation that Fedez had been in an extramarital relationship for six of the seven years that they were married.
B
She said, talking to the girl on his wedding day.
A
Yep, he was asking the girl to, like, give him assurance, a reason to leave. Yeah, she said, I felt sick when I realized everything I had lived was a complete lie. But I suffered in silence. I stayed quiet because I wanted to move forward without focusing on the pain I had been through. And because I have two children who will one day hear about everything their parents say about each other. And certain things will hurt them. But deciding together with his friend to make even more details public, probably as revenge for his mistress's unrequited love, was truly a low blow. So apparently he called his mistress just before walking down the aisle with Kiara and asked his mistress to, like, give him any sort of, like, tell him to run away and be with him forever. And she didn't. And so he went through marrying Kiara because also, he didn't know how to kind of like, call it all off. As you said yesterday, like, their marriage and their wedding was the biggest story.
B
Globally, but especially in Italy. Like, they are like a. I'm trying to think of, like, who a comparison. They're kind of like a Ben and Turdy. Like, like Italian royalty. People die for them. He's like this rapper. Obviously we don't know any of his work, but in Italy, he's like a huge. People think he's so hot. They love his music. And she's just like, boss, babe, bitch. Like, I understand like the pressure of being like that perfect couple. But to. There's so many layers to this that are probably so deeply painful for Kiara. Like one obviously that the entirety of your marriage, like to have any sort of infidelity is devastating. But from the time that you got married, like from the day that it's been going on, like that's really devastating. But then also sort of coming to terms with the fact like you're. You got married because of the unrequited nature of that affair. It's like your, your man's mistress didn't even want him.
A
Right. It's not like he chose you, it just. He had nowhere else to go.
B
Right. Like by default. Like that's a terrible feeling, I imagine.
A
Yeah.
B
And what a piece of shit.
A
Piece of shit. I don't. It's. I didn't really know him before just from like the background of Kiara's stories, but their, their whole life seems like a. Seemed like a fairy tale, you know. And it's just, it's that old adage but like it just always rings more and more truth.
B
Yeah.
A
You never know what is going on between two people. So before you like start to envy or compare yourself or think like, oh, we don't look at as in love as they do and like we don't get to do things just don't even. Because you never ever know. Like this is worse than anything than like that you might have thought was off between them. Like literally on his wedding day he's talking to his mistress who he continues to have a six year. They have two kids and he has a girlfriend.
B
It's so corny, but it really is the takeaway here because I'm sure there are people who've watched them and just like were filled with envy for that type of love and life and, and marriage and family and all the nice houses and. And to be honest, like, no, you can. There aren't enough nice houses to keep someone in a marriage like that. Like, for real.
A
Yeah. And I guess she's only speaking out now because he has shared stuff that has like embarrassed her. That's what she said in her post. Because I understand why she. I mean she seems like the tough to the type to just like tough it, tough it out, do it for her kids and then even when they break up to not say anything like for her kids. But this is far. Like they're so far gone in terms of like keeping the veil over.
B
Yeah.
A
Themselves.
B
No. And this is something I personally struggle with and maybe like I'll Understand it more or feel differently. Like, when I'm blessed one day with a child. But, like, I get so mad when people are, like, protecting their. Like, he's the father of my. I don't give a. He's a dick. Like, everybody needs to know in celebrity world.
A
Yeah. Like, I get it. I feel like there. There's different things. Like, there are just people who split up because they're growing apart. They don't get along, they don't respect each other, they can't communicate. And there's slights here and there. And then, like, those people usually don't go and tell every. Every fight that they ever had with their husband because that's just, like, personal people's business. But then there are things that are so egregious that. That are going to come out anyway that it's better for you to live in. Like, it's out there, you know?
B
Yeah.
A
And for you to just be able to, like, move on from it. So I understand if she never wanted to mention it, but I think that, you know, that ship has sailed in terms of, like, keeping the lid on it.
B
Yeah.
A
And when it's just, like, typical irreconcilable differences or whatever. Like, no, we don't need to know. I know you want to know the business, but, like, we can guess. Like, you guys just don't like each other anymore.
B
No. If it's boring, like, sure. But when there's like.
A
I'm sure everyone's like, fights are drama, but it's, like, standard.
B
Yeah. You know, this is just, like, so crazy.
A
Yeah. Yeah.
B
Because I think anybody. But they were, like, two people who were really individually famous. But together as a couple, that's also hard. Like, when you get more attention as a couple, so you want to stay together more, but the relationship's not working out, but you don't want to give up all the opportunity. And there are two people who are, like, definitely both individually really famous, but, like, somebody who lives in a different country. Like, I heard about them so much. As a couple. More as a couple than ever individually.
A
Yeah. They remind me a little bit of Molly Mae and Tommy, except they're even bigger because they came from two different worlds and fused together like a rock star and Italy's number one influencer. Like, bar none, Molly and Tommy came up together, really. So their fans were always the same. But you had, like, these two huge fan bases for Kiara.
B
But it is the perfect comparison.
A
Yeah. Yeah. And then when they break up, except for Molly and Tommy, I think most of the Time it was a fairy tale and that's what she was saying. It's not like they weren't in love. It's not like there was infidelity.
B
It was this big smoke and mirrors.
A
Like the whole time there was just other stuff going on. And I think they will end up back together if. If they're not already, which it seems as though they are. So it's not totally comparable, but yeah, this is really shocking and really sad and she seems so tough. Also, I remember, like, her other relationship before this, which was like long term and serious and he was like her business partner, I think, and he like, totally stole her business. Like, she was like, fighting for years to get her, like, name back. The blonde salad, Kiara. Like in litigation for years, like, every relationship has been a nightmare for this girl.
B
Oh, my God, that's so strange. Yeah, well, it's just important to remember that key takeaway here, like, especially when it comes to, like, Internet stuff. And nothing is what it seems, right?
A
Don't compare yourself to other people. Really?
B
Really. It's true.
A
Yeah.
B
Your life is fab.
A
Yeah.
B
It's yours just the way you are.
A
Are you ready for our next story?
B
Number three?
A
Yeah.
B
Yeah.
A
Because it is some Grammys news. This is our last episode before the Grammys. Woohoo.
B
Oh, right. What are they on Sunday?
A
They are on Sunday. And we have performers and presenters and notably Taylor is presenting at the Grammys. So that has everyone in a tizzy.
B
Which, like, isn't crazy, but it's more so a confirmation of her attendance, which, you know, she does usually go, especially when she's nominated for album of the year. But who knows these days, like, what she's up to with the Super Bowl.
A
Right. But I think she could pop into the Grammys and I think she'll give out Album of the Year because she won last year. That feels right.
B
She can't give it out. She's nominated.
A
What is she nominated for?
B
Give Tortured Poets. Are you okay?
A
I thought she won for Tortured Poets last year. Did she win for album of the year last year for Midnight? Yeah, she.
B
Yes, she's won for Midnight. She won for.
A
But last year she won for Midnight.
B
Was that last year?
A
Yeah, I. Sorry. That's why I'm like, she's wearing her Tortured Poets dress and she won album of the year. I just assume. Oh, my God. So maybe she won't announce.
B
No, she won't announce album of the year.
A
Oh, so she'll just announce, like, Joe Schmo, whatever.
B
Yeah, like probably new artist, maybe to Sabrina.
A
That's Sabrina. The only category she's not nominated for this year.
B
Right. 2024 winner was. Let me just make sure I'm saying this correct. Yeah. Taylor Swift.
A
Yeah. Yeah.
B
That's crazy that she releases, like. Like an album a year now.
A
Yeah. Okay, so this is the year of the stacked. Album of the year, because.
B
Yes.
A
Brat.
B
Short and sweet.
A
Taylor.
B
Tortured poets.
A
Beyonce, Cowboy Carter.
B
Yep.
A
So that will be interesting. And then here are the performers.
B
Okay. And then also, do you think Travis is going? Like, the timeline does line up because it is a bye week. It's the Pro bowl, so people who play in the super bowl are not playing a game. Although I imagine you're under rigorous training and practice schedules. I would love to see him.
A
I don't think he's going, and I don't think he should go. I think, like, for the team, like, these two weeks before the super bowl, like, we are drilled in.
B
It's true.
A
And it just, like, sends a bad message.
B
Message.
A
I don't think. And I also. I feel like there have been other times where it's, like, Taylor's big night and Travis should be by her side. And for their first red carpet appearance, I don't think this one is it.
B
What would it be?
A
Watch. And then, I mean, like, not that she. They were ready then, but like, the Eras, tour, movies.
B
Yeah. Like her own project.
A
Yeah. Even last Grammys, it felt more palpable that they could show up together. This just. It's. He's literally playing in the Super Bowl.
B
Yeah.
A
I would actually, like. I would find it weird if he goes.
B
Okay. Okay.
A
And, like, I feel like, because I'm being so adamant about it, he's gonna go.
B
They're gonna go. Yeah.
A
So you're welcome, performers. Billie Eilish Chapel, Roan, Sabrina. Can't wait to see her up there shaking that thing. Charlie xcx. That'll be interesting to see how she stacks up, comparatively.
B
Yeah. Yeah, it will. I don't know why. I just feel like the whole Brat era is, like, now I'm like, a.
A
Conspiracy theorist on Brat.
B
No, not soured. But because I think, like, some of the songs are definitely good, but I feel like it was overhyped, like, in my. Like, not even in my mind. Like, somebody overhyped it to me.
A
Yeah.
B
And I don't even know, like, what kind of performer is she?
A
Well, I saw her perform on snl, and it was really terrible, so I hope she's doing something else cool.
B
Switching it up.
A
Yeah. Stevie Wonder. Classic obsessed Shakira Go off.
B
Oh, baby, when you talk like that.
A
John Legend.
B
Okay.
A
Cynthia Erivo, obsessed.
B
She just thinks that me from Wicked.
A
I don't know. I'm sure I could, like, maybe. Because Wicked maybe is nominated for soundtrack or something.
B
But Grammys doesn't do anything movies like.
A
I know, but they should do sound like movie songs.
B
I feel like Cynthia Erivo could be tapped to do, like, either during the In Memoriam. They always just need someone with a party voice.
A
Yeah.
B
Or if they're gonna do, like, a tribute to somebody who passed away this year.
A
Yeah.
B
They just are always tapping, like, true talents for that.
A
Yeah. Chris Martin and Coldplay.
B
Okay. Janelle Coldplay. Why they say like that? What is he special?
A
Because they just, like, we're showing pictures of each celebrity and so, like, they wanted to show Chris Martin, Janelle Monae.
B
Okay.
A
Benson Boone. Oh, he's good.
B
He is. But I have to say something.
A
What?
B
That song is really good. So if you don't know who Benson Boone is, like, it's totally normal, but you probably do know the song these Beautiful Things that. Yeah, please. And so it's a really good song. And it was, like, having a huge year. Okay, now maybe I take back what I'm gonna say. Never on.
A
Okay. Because you don't stand by it or because you just don't want to go.
B
Well, because someone would say, well, Claudia, you don't feel that way, like, about Shibuzzi. Because if somebody. If you said Shabuzzi was performing at the Grammys this year, I'm like, good, he should have the song of the year. But it's like this Benson character is just everywhere, literally everything. And you have one song. Oh, it's the same way I feel about Dasha, but for some reason, when it's Jabousi, it doesn't bother me.
A
Oh, Dasha.
B
Dasha is. Did you Boots?
A
So I feel like maybe Shaboozi doesn't bother you, because I can confirm, like, he has a whole album full of bops and, like, he is.
B
And by the way, I'm sure that these other people, like, have other, like, songs on their album that I just don't know. And I don't think a lot of people know. Like, I dare one person to name another Dasha song besides Austin. And same for Benson Boone. And I'm sure most people couldn't name another Shabuzzi song, honestly.
A
So Benson Boone going all these places because he has one song doesn't bother me because I feel like I've heard some of his other stuff just like on shuffle and he's just like, really talented and I wish good things for him. Other people who have one song and it's just the one song over and over again, I just don't feel like they have a second act coming up. It's annoying. So I agree with that.
B
So that's how I feel about Benson Boone.
A
But like, Benson Boone is filling the Lewis Capaldi shaped hole.
B
Yeah. In your heart. Do you listen to that Tiktoker Alex Warren? I think his name is carry you home. Yeah. So he is like an OG Hype House member. He was like a part of a couple that was like a tick tocky couple. I think they're married now. And he started releasing music and everyone's like, okay, good luck with your little project. And he has released such amazing music and he's getting so much hype. I think his songs do incredibly well. He just did a they. He released another version of one of his popular songs and Joe Jonas is on it. Like, he's really making waves and he is a very. Not only does he sound like Lewis Capaldi, he looks like him too.
A
Let me tell you. I didn't know any of that backstory about him that he's a TikTok or anything. I listen to his music because it comes up on my Spotify because that's the kind of music I like. And he's up there with Ben Simbun. Like, to me, they're the same person in terms of, like, where they came from, which is just Spotify release.
B
Jackie, did you ever watch the Hype House Netflix show? I think I believe he's a character on it. Him and his girlfriend, shockingly.
A
I know this is going to really surprise everyone. I never watched the Netflix hype House show.
B
Oh, you were missing out. That was so good. But okay, so.
A
But I'm glad you know that. I'm actually glad that I was introduced to him without knowing that because, like, to me, he's just a serious artist.
B
Do you know this song? You knew the house was burning down. I had to get out. That's also the one Joe Jonas hopped on. You will love a Margo. Really put me on Margot started streaming him. I'm like, margot, are you really streaming that Tiktoker guy? She was a Claudia. The music stands out like it stands on its own. No, I was like, okay, he has.
A
Made it to my, like, songs.
B
I can't believe that you, like, know him not even having anything to do with TikTok. That's crazy.
A
Literally, like, five songs A month. Make it to my, like, songs. And I listen to my, like, songs. Songs. Yeah. Headlights. Yeah, that's on my, like, Is there one.
B
Is there one that's called like, the house was Burning down or something?
A
I'll find it. It's not on my, like songs, but maybe I should add it. I will.
B
No, you should add it. It's a really pargy song.
A
It is called Burning Down.
B
That's the one.
A
And Burning down with Joe Jonas. Ooh, which way do I go?
B
Go with the OG first.
A
And then.
B
And then you'll dip your toe into the. The special effects.
A
Okay. Sounds.
B
Oh, did you see Rascal Flats Jonas Brothers Q lab dropped today?
A
I did. I was about to listen to. But I was listening to the new Morgan Wallen song that dropped and then I got distracted. But then this conversation reminded me. Rascal Flats. I just.
B
It's kind of a good season of music right now.
A
Yeah, I know. I'm really excited.
B
I. I have high hopes for this Rascal Flats collab. I haven't listened to it yet, but if it's bad, like, I'll be pissed.
A
I'll just blame the Jonas Brothers. So it's fine.
B
That's actually like a really kind of.
A
Foolproof plan, right, Like.
B
Yep. And it's not Rascals fault.
A
No, if it's great, like, that's for damn sure. Rascal gets the credit. But if it's bad, the drummers brothers.
B
That was a result.
A
Do you want to know more Grammys performers?
B
Oh, I thought we were done. Sorry.
A
Yeah, no, I'll go quickly. Do Chi. Teddy Swims, Jacob Collier, Brad Paisley, Ray. Okay.
B
We could have stopped.
A
Lainey Wilson, Cheryl Crow, St. Vincent, Brittany Howard, Herbie Ham Lot.
B
Great. I'm sure some of them will be, like, doing something together, but that's a lot of performers.
A
Yeah. Yeah. Like, not that many exciting ones, actually.
B
I agree. Yeah. It all comes out in the wash. We're left with, like, Cynthia Rivo, Sabrina.
A
And Sabrina hearts up for Sabrina. Maybe there will be a surprise performer like Beyonce or something. You know, I feel like that could happen.
B
I actually. I wouldn't count on it.
A
Or tailored.
B
I wonder if Beyonce's gonna go.
A
Why wouldn't Taylor perform?
B
She, like, doesn't really. The last time she performed was the Folklore Willow era, which was like, one of her most iconic performances of all time. But she like that. She doesn't. She's. When she's nominated, she's pretty much guaranteed to show up. She usually shows up but not perform.
A
Okay.
B
And I don't think Beyonce will perform either. Only because I think like, odds wise, I don't think she has a high likelihood of taking home a lot of awards this year. Like, I don't think it's her year.
A
I was actually just reading an article about Beyonce and album of the year and like, all the times that she was nominated and didn't win. And in there is like one true snub that she should have won that year.
B
I am Sasha Fierce.
A
The. No, I think was called Beyonce. It was like the self titled album and it was the year that Beck won. And like, I'm sorry, who is back in this world? Like, not to offend everyone, I actually.
B
Remember, like being socially conscious for that year where Beck won over Beyonce and the Internet was so mad and it was like, we'll see in five years, like, if anybody knows who Beck is and we don't. No.
A
And like, I'm sure the Internet was mad. And at the time, like, I'm sure Beck's album, like, was really good. But like those. Beyonce, like, that was a more prevalent album and, and carried on. But then the other time she lost was to Taylor Swift Fearless, which, yep, like, Adele stood the test of time. Adele25 withstood the test of time. And then what was the other one? Or maybe it was just three and.
B
And no, but it's not even so much about the album. It's about the other nominees too.
A
Yeah. Yeah. And like the other two times that she should have won, like, was just stacked categories. This year is also a stacked category. And I don't think Cowboy Carter is even as album of the year worthy as I am Sasha Fierce. Lemonade or Beyonce was.
B
Yeah, I agree. I don't think it's her year. So I. I don't even know if she's confirmed to show up. And I don't think she's gonna perform. She's. I'm not gonna waste my talent on you.
A
But you don't think that they might give her album year because, like Jay Z, like, read them to filth in his speech last year?
B
No, I don't think they would want to, like, indulge that behavior. Also, who is Jay Z in this world in this moment? Like, his social cachet has gone down severely since he was accused. Just accused of allegedly, you know, assaulting a 13 year old. So, like, personally, I don't negotiate with people like that, you know?
A
Yeah, I just feel like, I don't know, I feel like they might want to just finally give it to her and then here she is nominated. Even though this wouldn't be the year.
B
No, it's. There's too many Chapel. Sabrina. There's too many in that category. And for me, it's Sabrina 1000%. I actually had a dream about Sabrina last night. I was listening to Short and sweet in my head and while I slept.
A
More than tortured Poets. For you.
B
No, like tortured Poets.
A
So for you it's Tortured Poets.
B
Yeah. And I actually do think she'll win.
A
Okay, well, we'll see on Sunday and we'll see you on Monday, because I.
B
Didn'T think Midnights was gonna win. And if she didn't, like, I wasn't gonna riot. You know, like, it was a stacked year last year. Like, I. I think that this year, like, is a year I would riot. You know, if you're. If, like, on the scale of rioting, I would riot.
A
Yeah, there would be a riot.
B
Breaking on my heart I try to find it I could go out every night But I'd be lying and that's what we said. Rascal Plots has never made a bad song. So if the collab is bad, like Jackie said, it's the Jonas Brothers fault. Blame Kevin. Well, before we keep going, let me let you know that the rest of today's episode is brought to you by Sono Bello. And it is so hard for me not to say so Nobel, but it's so nobello. So genetics can be beautiful. Maybe you got your mom's eyes, her great skin, but they can also be a nightmare. So some of my friends, I hear them say, oh, I got my mom's belly and love handles. Don't let genetics be the thing that holds you back from getting the body that you deserve. And check out the permanent solutions by Sono Bello. So our friends at Sono Bello are offering you a fabulous deal. It's really the most well known secret with celebrities and influencers. And you are now included in the New Year's savings event. Appointments are limited, so make sure to get on it. Sono Bello doctors are masters in micro laser fat removal. It's a brilliant technique that removes stubborn fat permanently. Wherever your problem areas. Tummy, love handles, thighs, arms. It's gone in one comfortable visit. Eating healthy and working out are great. Keep doing that. But if you do want to lose the more stubborn fat in one visit, check out Sono Bello. I think as women, the older we get, like those areas that we've sort of struggled with our, our entire lives do get much more stubborn. And sometimes you have to just take control of your own demons and make an appointment for Sono Bello. So save big during their New Year's savings event. Schedule your free consultation now@sonobello.com toast that's s o n o b e l l o.com toast sonobello.com t o a-s dash t thank you, Son Nobel for sponsoring today's episode of the Toast.
A
Thank you, Turtle Bellow.
B
You're welcome, Jiro Bello.
A
Okay, our fourth story just got swapped in because new news has emerging. It's not breaking news, but basically Reese Witherspoon was just talking about. She was saying how she lost like a dear Hollywood friend because she made a speech at an awards show that was a bit bawdy. And now this body mean like inappropriate and risque. Risque. And now this person doesn't talk to her anymore. So I was like, like, like without knowing who that is. That is. So it's an uninteresting story what the speech is like. Whatever. So the A list actress who doesn't talk, Teresa Witherspoon anymore, has seemingly been identified, including the speech that she made.
B
Speech. Let me guess, let me guess, let me guess.
A
I don't know how you could guess.
B
Selma Blair.
A
No. And it's kind. And the speech is from a while ago. So like before you're before. Like we were paying attention. Earlier this week, Reese Witherspoon said in an interview that a fellow Hollywood star allegedly ended their friendship after she called out their idea to get laser hair removal while presenting her with an award. For the sake of privacy, Reese refused to name drop the actress during the candid chat. However, after some sleuthing, just Jared has reported that the.
B
Thank you, Jakey. Jared.
A
Thank you, Jared. The mysterious celebrity Reese was referring to was Kate Winslet. So during the 2007 BAFTA La Cunard Britannia awards classic.
B
How did I miss that?
A
Reese. What? Presented Kate Winslet with the prestigious artist of the year award. So Kate had asked her to do the speech to present.
B
Oh, so they were really tight. Like you ask someone you're like low key with to do that right While.
A
Standing in front of an audience to present the star. Reese kicked off her speech by saying, I always wanted to be a European movie star, wear giant sunglasses, elaborate neck scarves, smoke hand rolled cigarettes and have savoir faire and gravitas. Imagine my good fortune when Kate Winslet moved into my neighborhood, rang my doorbell and said, darling Sam is off shooting and I believe our children are the same age. Could they possibly have a playdate and oh, by the way, it's almost 9 o'clock and I've had nothing to drink. Do you have any wine? During her speech, Reese praised Kate Winslet for her fearlessness. However, she also called her out for peeing all over herself in front of Harvey Keitel in Holy Smoke. She further pointed out that she wanted to tell more of their stories, but couldn't because they were too bawdy or taught you or drunken too to tell. Including the time they contemplated laser hair removal. The revelation comes just one day after Rhys called losing a friend for roasting her in a speech while presenting her with award. Reese said, this literally haunts her to this day. She said, so this friend of mine, who I didn't really know that well, but she was a very serious, proper actress, she asked me to give her an award because Reese had never been to that particular award ceremony. She thought it was like a roast. So I got up and I roasted her before pointing out that the tone of the gala was British and elegant. Elegant and classy.
B
Oh, my God. Okay. Because at first I was like, oh, so lame. Of Kate Winslet. And then the more you told the story, I'm like, wait, Reese Witherspoon is the villain in this story? Like, that's really inappropriate. And so the fact that she looks back on it now, like, with the self awareness to be like, no, I was wrong for that. I'm glad she wasn't, like, trying to throw Kate Winslet under the bus. She's throwing herself under the bus. And that's really funny. And I would love for these two to reconnect. I could. Obviously, Rhys knows what she did wrong. She has listened and learned. Oh, my. I just went on such a journey. While I'm listening, I'm like, how am I going to defend Reese? Like, she sounds like a.
A
No. I feel like she. What is this, 15 years on? Has realized, like, she's wrong. It literally gives her a pit. Like, sometimes you just, like, misread a situation. You do the wrong thing. Like people. I feel like that happens in a lot of, like, weddings, you know, if you're asked to give a speech about someone and sometimes people, like, bring up inappropriate speakers stuff and, like, they just, like, misread it. And I know sometimes, like, that stuff kills and there is a line, but it's so hard to know where that line is. So I feel like this is a very actually relatable thing of, like, making a speech for someone and they did not like. And if you didn't have, like, the strongest relationship beforehand, Like, I wouldn't want to be friends.
B
Why bother pursuing. Yeah. I. But I. I do, like, this little window into how these two became friends.
A
Yeah.
B
Like, literally just knocking on your door, being like, we have kids the same age. Like, obviously they knew who each other was, like, on a professional basis, like, to be famous and wealthy, you know?
A
Yeah. But then you have, like, at least with you, if it's. You're talking at your friend's wedding and you up, like, okay, it happened, Right? This.
B
I need to see this speech for sure.
A
Like, see Kate's reaction when she walks up.
B
Yeah. But the thing that she said before, the armpit thing was worse. Peeing herself, Right?
A
Yeah. And just, like, talking about all the drunken antics.
B
Yeah. I would also stop being friends with that person, for what it's worth, like, out of global. On a global stage.
A
I think I would too. Especially if it was a new friend. I'd be like, oh, this person can't be trusted. They obviously have, like, bad instincts. And.
B
Yeah.
A
They don't know, like, what's for the private.
B
Especially, like, when you're a public person. Like, a lot of things probably need to be kept for the private, and you need somebody whose gut instinct, like, knows when to talk and when to shut up.
A
So I'm sure that was, like, a learning moment for Reese. I have no ill will against Reese for this. Like, I. I feel sympathy for her. Sometimes you have to learn a lesson the hard way.
B
Yeah. I agree. And she's a better woman now because of this.
A
Yeah. So funny. I'm glad we figured out who it was.
B
Me too. Because these, like, stories where we're all just, like, endlessly guessing, and there's no way to know who it truly is, like, I find boring. But the James Van Der Beek story that last week we pretty much figured out, and now Kate Winslet, Love.
A
No. And without knowing who the celebrity was and what the speech was, we would have been like, oh, who in Hollywood has a stick up their butt that they didn't like? Reese Witherspoon's speech.
B
Yeah.
A
Our fifth and final story leading into our TV recap is Austin.
B
Yeah.
A
Is Austin Kroll revealing his thoughts on the rumors that Paige is with another guy? So Austin and Patricia were on Watch what Happens Live last night, and they were asked a lot about the breakup. Austin confirmed that Paige has allegedly moved on with another guy. When a caller asked what he thinks about the rumors that she's with this guy, and he said, I don't think that those are rumors. I think that they've been substantiated. He confirmed that Craig knows as such. And he explained, you know, he didn't for a minute, but, yeah, I think he's fully come to terms with that. That that's not a rumor. And then Andy was like, wow, okay. Meanwhile, Paige then commented on an Instagram video of this moment saying, ah, yes, A man I haven't spoken to in six months knows exactly what I'm doing.
B
Right. So at first I was like, oh, this clip is sad. Like, because I actually don't know if Paige has moved on. There was, like, a lot of hoopla around that Eagles game, but she hasn't. It's not official. And there was, like, so many fake rumors about her with Marcello. So, like, seriously, I don't know. Like, I genuinely don't know, but I was just like, okay, maybe she is seeing that guy.
A
Yeah.
B
And. And then Austin being like, yeah, we've kind of, like, come to terms with the fact that, like, it's not a rumor. Like, she's just dating someone, and that's hard. And we're, like, figuring it out. And he was kind of speaking on behalf of Craig, and I was like, oh, sad. And then I was just, like, scrolling the comments on Tick Tock this morning, and I saw Paige at the top. I was like, oh, so is that her saying she's not dating anyone?
A
I think it's just her saying, I'm sure there's, like, a more to this story, whether it was, like, a first date. I feel like also maybe Austin is trying to make it seem like she's has a boyfriend, which she probably doesn't. And I feel like there. There's just always more color that can be added. So, like, him speaking on something about a person that he doesn't talk to.
B
Yeah.
A
And hasn't spoken to. Like, what do you really know?
B
And that's annoying. Like, for Paige, if she hasn't spoken out about her dating life and like, this. Her ex's, like, random friend who she's not friends with, like, talking about. It's like, stop.
A
And who she's always had beef with because of Sierra. And even.
B
Right.
A
Even this season of Southern Charm, Craig and Paige are together, and Craig is having beef with Austin. And every time Paige is there, she's like, telling Craig, like, just cut this guy out. Like, you know, move on with the podcast. Like, obviously they didn't even get along in good times. So for him to be the one speaking on her in bad times, it's like, you don't. What do you know?
B
No, she's right for that.
A
Yeah, I agree with that. And a little bit of Southern charm. Recap. So last night, the boys are reuniting. This season is really centered on Austin and Craig. The girls are fighting, but they have this podcast, Pillows and beer twice a week. And it's, like, based on their friendship, but they are not really friends right now because Craig just kind of wants to, like, sit home and knit and be in his backyard and settle down, like, buddy, where are you at? And it's. It's hard to call it, because now knowing that Paige and Craig have broken up. And I feel like in the season, Craig is making a lot of these decisions because he's in this serious relationship with Paige, and he doesn't go out because, like, he spends his time.
B
They're the right decisions for him in that moment.
A
Right. And now. And. And now I think viewers are quick to say, well, oh, he was doing all that because of Paige, and now that they're broken up, he was wrong. And, like, I don't think he's wrong.
B
For wanting me neither.
A
Be in a more mature phase of his life. Like, the way that the men on Southern Charm live and act.
B
The man.
A
Men.
B
You said man.
A
I think I said men.
B
It was getting woman.
A
I'll have to watch that back.
B
Yeah. Thank God we're recording.
A
Yeah, that's like Cody Simpson performing at.
B
The CMA's, which I'm still waiting for.
A
The way that the men on Southern Charm live and act is not something that should be modeled whatsoever. So Craig wants to break free from that mold in a very serious way. I am so supportive of it. Like, agree. Seriously need to grow up. So I don't think it's fair to just be like, well, now I'm sure Craig's crawling back to his friends. Like, he's allowed to want to live, like, a more serious lifestyle, take his work seriously and whatnot. But Austin is just, you know, casual buddy, looking for his friends, and I just feel like they need to make up. Like, this is stupid. Craig offered to pay him $30,000 to leave the podcast and, like, give it to him.
B
Wait, who? Austin offered Craig or Craig offered Austin? Because getting just to basically, like, buy the rights.
A
Yeah, because it's been hard to, like, do the podcast together when they're not friends and the show is about their friendship. He said, like, Austin always just shows up, like, hungover. Craig does all the, like, work for it Admin. So can you just, like, give it. Okay.
B
It's giving Sophia and Alex, like, yeah, it really is.
A
Except they're guys and like, just the things that just, like, roll off their back. Like, literally once he. One minute they are laughing and the next minute they are fighting and also, like, crying about their hurt feelings. It's. It's shocking. I hope that they work it out, though. Like, I like their. All of their friendships, but they do need to find their new normal. And maybe that does change again now that Craig is single. But still, he does.
B
It sounds like, based on. Also watch what happens live. Like, it sounds like they're, like, close again.
A
Yeah. Which is nice. He'll need his friends now, but I.
B
Don'T want Craig to revert to that.
A
No.
B
That lifestyle.
A
I don't think so. But Austin's now in a serious relationship, so.
B
Good.
A
Yeah. Then the other crazy thing that happened is jt, I've been telling you, like, JT is just a ticking time off on this show.
B
Yeah.
A
And I just also learned that he put out an Instagram story statement saying that he has left the show in post production.
B
Oh, so you know something bad is.
A
Coming because he said they wanted to do more, like, on camera interviews. He said he's filmed already, like, 10 this season and he won't be doing the rest. And he is leaving the show. This season has been, like, really bad for JT Self. Like, he just comes up looking so bad. And like, one thing that he always had, he has this, like, blossoming relationship with Vanita and they're, like, really cute and they go shopping and she texts his mom and they, like, get along.
B
Friendship.
A
Or, like, friendship that is flirtatious. So, like, okay, it looks like it's headed somewhere. And so last night on the episode, she, like, invites him over for dinner, cooks for him. She's about, like, gonna tell him how she feels. She's like, when I like someone, like, I want. I want to tell them how I feel and, like, make it really easy. Easy for them. Like, here's. This is like, here's a branzino. I like you. Like, let's.
B
Let's. So mature.
A
And even last on last week's episode, they had, like, this weird conversation when JT stormed out of the party. And he's like, saying that, like, oh, Vanita, I love you. And, like, it was just like, are you guys about to kiss? That's literally how I felt. Are you guys about to kiss? So then, like, this week, they're about to talk about their feelings, and she, like, says that she likes him, and he says, I'm seeing someone that's Weird. Weird that you would flirt with, like, Vanita and make her feel this way when you're seeing someone. That Vanita. Vanita said that she knew that he was talking to someone, but not that. It was like, in a stage where the door closed. And now it just feels, like, so clear that he was kind of, like, using Vanita. She's on the show. On the show. Who, like, really had a soft spot for him. And I feel like he was flirting with her and just like, being really.
B
Yeah, because I'm sorry. Like, as evolved as we are, like two straight, different gendered people becoming best friends, like, is not normal.
A
Yeah. And they're like new friends too. It's not like they're like brother and sister from growing.
B
So there being, like, romantic undertones is very, like, normal and real. And him pretending, like, what I hate.
A
Yeah. And then it was just. It's also weird for his new relationship because it was like the new. It was like if I was the other girl and he's been talking to me the way that he is and that he's even sitting on my couch having a conversation. And JT is saying, like, I do like, like you and I. I feel the chemistry, but I'm seeing someone. It's like even saying that to someone when you're seeing someone. Like, he's got all around. He's burned bridges with Madison, with Austin, now Craig, Sally Taylor, everyone. So at a certain point, how can he even be on the show? Like, he has no friends left. And it was just like, if more people watch Southern Charm, he would be my weenie of the week. Because it was the moment. It was so. It was so crazy. Like, you really thought they were about to kiss on the couch. And I was like, but you made.
B
Fish head for Vanita.
A
It was. No, I'm happy for her because she's seriously as Dodgy Bullet.
B
Yeah, well, for sure.
A
Anyways, that's what's new in Charles Stan. And I'm telling you, things between Molly and Shep continue to bubble. So.
B
By the way, after you said that last week, a lot of people in the comments and like, on our pages were commenting that they echoed your statement. Like, it's like this obvious thing. You're not the only one who sees it.
A
Right. So they flash back to last week when they were watching Molly's concert on her tuba. One of the cast members, like, said to. Sorry that I can't remember his name. He's always on the show. And, like, he just came. Sorry.
B
He said sorry to this man.
A
He Told Shep that Molly had told him that he has feelings, that she has feelings for Shep, but, like, in a sweet way. And like, she was like, oh, okay. And then this week, things are starting to go south with Shep and his twenties and Bahamas Bahamian model girlfriend because not only did she, like, ghost him for three days, but Patricia, by the way, growing up, is having a newfound appreciation for Patricia. Patricia told Madison that before Sierra started dating Shep, she was hitting up Whitney.
B
Oh. Although I don't really trust any information that comes from Whitney. I think he's the devil.
A
I don't know. But the thing is Whitney and Patricia was like, whitney will kill me that I said this because he. I. Because I told Whitney, you have to tell Shep. And Whitney was like, no, no, no. Like, Whitney actually doesn't want to be in the drama anymore, like, for real. But then Patricia just had to share this. But I think it's becoming clear that Sierra really wanted to be on this show.
B
Yeah.
A
And doesn't really care about Chip.
B
Well, there's always Molly.
A
As one ship is door closes, another one might be coming into port. So we shall see.
B
It's beautiful. Let's do queenie. And we need of the week. A great way to wrap up the week. It's been a fabulous week here, you guys. Jackie and I every Friday like to do a little game that we call weenie of the week and queenie of the week where we give out an award to two different people. Someone who acted like a queenie this week and somebody who acted like a weenie this week. Just know it's all fun and games. You can be Queenie one week, we need the next. It's a seven day title and it's not that serious. So would you like to do Queenie or weenie first?
A
We will do queenie first, as we always do. I'll go first because yours is so amazing that, like, I don't want to be upended. But my queenie of the week is the obvious queenie in the room with us, which is our new studio.
B
Of course. Of course.
A
Toast. What era is this? Like 4.0.
B
Are we counting the breath?
A
Yeah.
B
Yeah. So the breath and then the pink with the thrones, Then the apartment we were evicted out of, then honestly, then the studio where we were both in it together.
A
And then remote.
B
And then remote. And then this. I'm sorry, I lost count. Was that six or seven?
A
Your finger was at seven.
B
Yeah, I know, but I felt like.
A
You forgot about my thumb. Start again.
B
Breath pink. With the thrones apartment, we got kicked out of studio. We were in together. Studio. We were in remote. This one.
A
Six Toast 6.0.
B
I love that.
A
I love.
B
Mine's actually not dissimilar, but it's a little bit more specific. Obviously, the studio is the queenie of the week, but I think that in the face of such judgment and adversity, our frames have really acted with such queenie, like. With such queenie, like, elegance. Yeah. Everybody. You're ugly. You're ugly. You're ugly. You're making me dizzy. You're making me dizzy. And they have just stood behind us, like, giving us such support, giving us, like, such party vibes. Like. And the thing is, Jackie and I were talking about this last night. Like, we will never, ever remove these frames. Like, you don't understand.
A
Like, you are a symbol of us not being able to be told what to do.
B
Not only that, they're a symbol of our perseverance. People are always telling us, you suck, you suck, and we just stand tall and we do our jobs. These frames people are like, why are the frames empty? Because it's us. We are the frames. This is Jackie, and this is Claudia. And in the face of such judgment, such bigotry, this week against our frames, they have done nothing but stand by our side and stand by. And that's what a queenie does.
A
It's so true. And what I also love about the frames, I was thinking yesterday, is there actually an homage to our first toe studio? Remember those chairs? The gilded chairs?
B
Yep.
A
And there we brought in a touch of our herstory. Like, what, we're just gonna sit in front of, like, this wallpaper and these pot. Like, we look like every other podcast. Like, we need our frames. Like, we are us.
B
Yeah. And the thing is, is, like, talk, talk, talk. They're talk, talk about the frames.
A
They're not going anywhere much, so get used to it.
B
That's what I'm saying. Did I overhype my Queenie?
A
Rattling them off, Keep saying, keep making them famous. Keep. They're not going anywhere.
B
Did I overhype my queenie or.
A
No, no, you didn't. But we actually. I teamed you up really nicely.
B
Yeah, I was worried that maybe you were gonna, like, talk about the frames before I could.
A
No, I wasn't going to talk about the frames because, like, much like the frames, I. I was. I was above it.
B
Yeah, of course.
A
But much like the frame, sometimes I have to get down in the mucks.
B
That's what I've been saying now, weenie. Of the week. My weenie of the week is a man by the name of Dexter Morgan. I think that the Gracie Abrams fandom, writing it, making a petition. I'm always talking about how toxic stand culture can be. And like, this is the perfect example. It's such crazy, truly mentally ill behavior. It's embarrassing. And the fact that it got to Gracie is even more embarrassing. And that's just weenie like behavior. Honestly, the people who created, I don't know their real names, but it was definitely like a group of three people who, like, thought they were, like, really about to slay the people who made that petition.
A
Weenie majorly. Weenie like behavior. My weenie of the week. Very, very innocuous, yet upsetting. And something that has stayed with me is that JoJo swiped left for Raymond on Raya Girl. What are you doing?
B
Seriously, what are you doing?
A
Like, we. You think there has to be more to this story because what, you just really thought the moment had passed? Like, no, this would be the greatest love story ever told.
B
The greatest love story this town had ever seen.
A
So until I get a better reason, that's my weenie.
B
I love that. That's our show. What a great week, Jax. First week in the new studio, as always dusted. I feel like every day we got so much better closer. We're making so much progress every single day with our lighting, with our audio, with our video. I feel like we're at a really good place. I feel like yesterday's episode was the first one we like, actually really nailed.
A
That was the best it ever went.
B
It was the best it ever went. So hopefully this episode just has the same exact trajectory. I want nothing different, please. Thank you guys so much for listening to the toast of millennium morning show where we Deliver the Fast5 stories you need to know every Monday through Friday on YouTube. So if you're watching us on YouTube, please feel free to subscribe and give this video a thumbs up. We're also available as podcasts anywhere podcasts can be found. Sets, Spotify, itunes, Searcher, Public Radio, iHeartradio, Castbox. All the places where we listen to podcasts. Find us a toast. Leave a five star review about how beautiful, stunning, and wickedly talented we are.
A
Honey, we are so close. Go a little over more. We're never. We're always too far apart. Go to, like, almost the edge of your chair.
B
I am.
A
Okay. Love you. Bye.
Podcast Summary: The Toast – "We've Been Framed: Friday, January 31st, 2025"
Hosted by Jackie and Claudia Oshry of Dear Media, "The Toast" episode titled "We've Been Framed" delves into a myriad of topics ranging from personal milestones to the latest in entertainment news. Released on January 31, 2025, this episode offers listeners a blend of candid conversations, insightful commentary, and playful banter.
The episode kicks off with Jackie and Claudia enthusiastically discussing their transition to a new studio. Claudia expresses mixed emotions about relocating their longtime workspace, highlighting both nostalgia and excitement for the future.
Jackie acknowledges the feminine aesthetics of their new environment and reflects on the challenges of leaving behind their old studio, packed with memories and old merchandise.
The hosts share personal anecdotes about the moving process, including their attachment to their previous belongings and their reliance on Roadway Moving Company for a smooth transition.
Jackie and Claudia dive into discussions about current and classic TV shows and movies, offering recommendations and personal opinions.
a. Critique of "Spidey and His Amazing Friends"
Claudia voices her frustration with the children's show, expressing disdain for certain characters and plotlines.
Jackie, on the other hand, appreciates the show’s educational content and likens it to other popular adaptations.
b. "National Treasure" and Its Legacy
The hosts reminisce about the "National Treasure" series, praising its cast and historical elements while lamenting the lack of a third installment.
Claudia shares her excitement about catching up on the films through cable and Disney's platform, emphasizing their timeless appeal.
c. Book Recommendations: "The Da Vinci Code" and "Demon Copperhead"
Jackie recommends "The Da Vinci Code" as a must-read, while Claudia discusses recent Pulitzer-winning books, engaging in a light-hearted debate about their merit.
The episode shifts focus to the personal lives of celebrities, exploring recent news and rumors.
a. Kaia Gerber and Lewis Pullman’s New Relationship
Jackie and Claudia analyze the unexpected pairing of model Kaia Gerber with actor Lewis Pullman, discussing the dynamics and potential implications for their careers.
b. Reese Witherspoon’s Controversial Speech and Fallout with Kate Winslet
A significant portion is dedicated to Reese Witherspoon's revelation about a strained friendship with Kate Winslet, stemming from an inappropriate speech presented at an awards show years prior.
Claudia empathizes with Kaia’s situation and extends sympathy towards Reese, emphasizing the complexities of public relationships.
As the Grammys approach, Jackie and Claudia share their thoughts on nominees, potential performances, and award predictions.
a. Nominations and Favorite Categories
The hosts discuss Taylor Swift’s nominations and speculate on possible winners, weighing in on Beyoncé’s chances amidst past snubs.
b. Performers Lineup and Personal Favorites
They review the list of performers, expressing excitement and skepticism about certain artists' performances.
Claudia highlights emerging artists like Benson Boone and debates the impact of social media fame on musical careers.
c. The Role of Jay-Z and Other Influencers
Discussions touch upon the influence of established artists like Jay-Z and their potential involvement in the ceremony.
Jackie and Claudia navigate the complexities of social media's impact on public figures, discussing how past behaviors are scrutinized through new lenses.
Claudia critiques the selective memory of the public, questioning why certain behaviors were overlooked until new information surfaces.
In their signature segments, Jackie and Claudia award their listeners' submissions for "Queenie" and "Weenie" of the week, fostering a sense of community and humor.
a. Queenie of the Week
Recognizing support amidst challenges, Claudia blesses their new studio space as the "Queenie of the Week," symbolizing their resilience and unity.
b. Weenie of the Week
Claudia highlights online toxic behaviors, naming Dexter Morgan and critiquing misguided fan actions that bring negativity into the community.
Jackie joins in with playful criticism, emphasizing the unproductive nature of certain social media interactions.
As the episode winds down, Jackie and Claudia reflect on their growth since moving to the new studio, expressing optimism about future episodes and ongoing improvements.
Claudia echoes this sentiment, highlighting their successful first episode in the new space and the supportive feedback from their audience.
Notable Quotes:
Claudia ([00:30]): "It literally feels like the inside of a vagina. Like, some TV shows make it look like that. Very, like, a fruit right. Literally us."
Jackie ([00:43]): "We are so feminine. I do look forward to that milestone for you and... how this chair really accommodates a woman on her period."
Claudia ([14:24]): "She did say she really, really liked him."
Jackie ([07:56]): "I think that's what you should watch."
Claudia ([72:45]): "It's such a perfect example. It's such crazy, truly mentally ill behavior."
Conclusion
In "We've Been Framed," Jackie and Claudia Oshry offer listeners an engaging mix of personal stories, entertainment critiques, and candid discussions on celebrity culture. Their dynamic conversation, punctuated with humor and heartfelt insights, makes this episode a compelling listen for fans seeking both depth and levity in their daily media intake.