Whoopi Was Robbed: Tuesday, May 12th, 2026

Summary

The Toast

Episode: “Whoopi Was Robbed” – Tuesday, May 12th, 2026

Hosts: Jackie & Claudia Oshry
Date: May 12, 2026

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Episode Overview

In this energetic, signature banter-filled episode, Jackie and Claudia cover the latest pop culture news, dissect the 2026 Sports Illustrated Swimsuit covers (and wish Whoopi Goldberg was among them), discuss TV upfronts, react to the Webby Awards’ five-word speeches, break down a bizarre Benedict Cumberbatch road rage moment, and speculate on upcoming book-to-movie adaptations. As always, the show wraps up with their “Dear Toasters” advice segment, this week focused on relatively light but relatable listener dilemmas.

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Key Discussion Points & Memorable Moments

1. Chatty Catch-Up: Meatballs, Pizza, and Chill Vibes

(00:05–04:55)

• Jackie and Claudia kick off with personal updates about family dinners, easy weeknight meals (meatballs in myriad forms), and “chill energy” routines.
• Discussion of how different world cuisines are just rearrangements of the same ingredients (“A lettuce wrap is just a deconstructed meatball.” — Jackie, 02:15).
• Pizza nights as adults and the enduring excitement of a pizza box:

  “When I see like a stack of boxes, you know, I know shit’s about to go down.” – Claudia, 04:33

2. Jackie’s Hotel ‘Jewel Saga’ Follow-up

(05:04–08:11)

• Jackie updates listeners on her viral hotel vape incident (a “Jewel” found in her child’s crib). After discussing the seriousness (including listener concerns about batteries exploding), she details the hotel’s response: she received a full refund after publicly discussing it on the podcast.
• Jackie advises moms:

  “You’re not underreacting and you should make it a bigger deal.” – Jackie, 06:17

3. Deeper Dives: DTQ (Deer Toasters Questions) and Feedback

(08:45–09:30)

• Claudia reflects on listener feedback about their “Deer Toasters” segment being too dark. Promises to keep things lighter and clarifies the infamous “PNP” acronym.
• Self-aware humor:

  “Actually, common misconception does not stand for pedophile. Like, sorry guys, I forgot to tell you that.” – Claudia, 09:09

4. James Charles GoFundMe Rant Debate

(09:31–14:12; 18:42–14:14)

• The co-hosts dissect James Charles’ recent (and controversial) TikTok rant about being “begged” for GoFundMe donations. They agree he “wanted backlash” and label it a contrived, attention-seeking ploy.
• Both hosts acknowledge one valid point about scamming risks on GoFundMe when you’re an influencer.
• “This is a rookie rookie rant. Yeah, rookie rookie of the year rant.” – Claudia, 14:02

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Fast 5 Stories

1. Sports Illustrated 2026 Covers: ‘Whoopi Was Robbed’

(19:00–26:24)

• SI’s four new covers: Hilary Duff, Alex Earl, Nicole Williams English, Tiffany Haddish.
• Jackie and Claudia debate SI’s current approach:
  • Say it’s trend-following, playing it safe, and uninspired compared to its influential past.
  • Adore Alex Earl’s cover.
• Notable banter on cover aesthetics:

  “Some of the pictures are not good. Like I think they kind of did Hilary Duff dirty. Her neck looks broken.” – Claudia, 20:32
  “Whoopi Goldberg would have been a bold move.” – Jackie, 20:18

• On four covers:

  “Nothing can be iconic when you’re a part of a group. I’m sorry.” – Claudia, 23:48

2. Major TV Upfronts: Cancellations & New Announcements

(26:25–33:15)

• Recap of NBCU, Fox, and Amazon’s upfront B2B events — what’s canceled (Jimmy & Bozie), new shows (Bravo’s "Secrets, Lies, Texas Wives," Peacock’s Madison LeCroy show, Amazon’s “Reality Retreat”), and the ever-expanding “reality stars do challenges” genre.
• Great sarcasm about Amazon’s new reality offerings:

  “It sounds really bad. There’s really no…there’s no hook.” – Jackie, 30:20

3. Kylie Kelce Wins the Webby Award: Five-Word Speech Wonder

(33:16–37:41)

• Kylie's five-word acceptance: “Not me. Us. Go Birds.”
• Claudia recaps the Webby tradition (five-word speeches) and imagines her own Webby acceptance:

  “Thank you. Grab a spoon.” – Claudia, 35:16

• Debating women’s podcast branding:

  “There’s seriously two different types of podcasts out there for women. The first is women supporting women. Go Birds. And the other is we’ve got that swirlitude. Like, that’s just the opposite.” – Claudia, 36:51

4. Benedict Cumberbatch’s Epic Road Rage with Cyclist

(37:45–43:55)

• The hosts riff on Benedict’s “rarely caught” altercation and general celebrity road rage.
• Funny side-tangent on name associations, especially the “ruined” names of history (Benedict/Adolf):

  “Death is the great equalizer. No, it’s road rage. Because even your faves experience rage on the road.” – Claudia, 40:41

5. Book-to-Movie News: Florence Pugh in ‘The Midnight Library’

(48:58–51:35)

• Florence Pugh to star in the adaptation of Matt Haig’s "The Midnight Library."
• Claudia admits the book missed her, Jackie vouches for it as “insightful.”
• Tangent on the same handful of actresses getting every book adaptation: Pugh, Daisy Edgar-Jones, Anne Hathaway, Emma Roberts.
• Classic Claudia:

  “So if you haven’t seen Oppenheimer yet, maybe now you will because I told you there are boobies in it.” – Claudia, 51:25

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Timestamps for Highlighted Segments

• SI Covers, “Whoopi was robbed” discussion: 19:00–26:24
• TV upfronts and reality show fatigue: 26:25–33:15
• Kylie Kelce Webby speech & five word game: 33:16–37:41
• Benedict Cumberbatch road rage & name history bit: 37:45–43:55
• The Midnight Library adaptation/Florence Pugh: 48:58–51:35

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Notable Quotes & Banter

• On the SI covers and modern standards:

  “If I was wanting to, you know, look deeper into this and be annoying, like, body positive influencer, I think these covers really do reflect that, like, the body positivity movement is over.” – Claudia, 24:28

• On podcast categories:

  “There’s seriously two different types of podcasts out there for women. The first is women supporting women. Go Birds. And the other is we’ve got that swirlitude.” – Claudia, 36:51

• On GoFundMe requests:

  “It happens a lot…I would say the majority of GoFundMes are, like, good, honest things, but you just gotta be careful.” – Claudia, 13:41

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Dear Toasters (Advice Segment)

(51:39–62:18)

• Case 1: Spooky “Jenny” flower delivery postpartum – The hosts advise it’s likely a mixup, not infidelity, but agree it feels “ominous.” “Just pocket this information, remember that it was weird, and forget it.” – Jackie, 54:17
• Case 2: Husband bought a "diamond" band on Amazon, hid it in real jeweler’s box – Both hosts say honesty is essential; the deception is the real problem.
• Case 3: Husband lied about quitting vaping – They lament adult lying in relationships:

  “It’s never the crime, it’s always the cover-up.” – Claudia, 60:24
  “Your word is everything. It’s all you have.” – Jackie, 61:08

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Tone & Style

The episode displays Jackie and Claudia’s signature blend of quick-witted, irreverent humor, pop culture authority, and sisterly back-and-forth. They frequently riff on each other’s opinions with sharp asides, real-world analogies, and playful disagreement, all laced with meta-commentary on how their content shifts in response to audience feedback.

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Summary

This lively installment delivers a thorough pop culture roundup with cheeky takes on Sports Illustrated's shifts, reality TV oversaturation, and viral influencer snafus, with a sprinkling of showbiz and personal-life advice. Full of memorable quotes and relatable “Dear Toasters” moments—and marked by the hosts’ commitment to keeping things light and honest—it’s a breezy yet insightful listen for anyone wanting the inside scoop on what everyone will be talking about this week.

Transcript

[A]

Good morning, girlies. It's the Toast. It's Jackson Claude, and we're your host. It's your favorite show, the best five things you need to know.

[B]

We'll start your day off Swirly.

[A]

It's the Toast. They sound amazing.

[B]

Welcome back to the Toast. Happy Tuesday. Actually, it feels more like Tuesday because it's kind of the breaking news that Sports Illustrated has finally chosen someone chosen for some few. Yeah.

[A]

The covers came out this morning. Of course, we'll get into it in the stories. I just.

[B]

Our predictions were.

[A]

Goldberg is on the COVID of Sports.

[B]

Whoopi Goldberger is your 2026 Sports Illustrated

[A]

rookie of the model, rookie of the year. I know that they were scrambling, and I know they're going to work it out for next year, but I'm excited to discuss the covers, which we will

[B]

do in the first story.

[A]

Which we will do in the first story.

[B]

Hey, Jax, how you doing?

[A]

Beyond the covers, how are we doing? I'm doing good, you know, great. Great Tuesday. Starting off on a good foot. What did I do yesterday? I had a fun day. Oh, I was cooking for them kids. We had all the kids over, made some meatballs.

[B]

I had a meatball in a minute.

[A]

Yeah. No, and I, I, I took a break, and now I'm making them, like, once a week again. So good. Such an easy weeknight dinner.

[B]

The thing with meatballs is, like, once you have them, you kind of get into, like, a toxic cycle where you have them like, a couple of times, like a week, and then you hate them, so you stop eating them. And then, like, a month goes by and you're like, wait, why don't I make meatballs anymore? And just thus continues the vicious cycle.

[A]

But what I like about the meatballs that we make is they could really be, like, dressed up or down for any occasion. You could go Italian. You could go, like, Thai, you know, Thai. You could go a little, like, Asian fusion.

[B]

Just personally, like, I like my meatballs Italian. Like, that's.

[A]

But you love Melinda's.

[B]

I do love Melinda's Thai chili seasoning. Not in my meatballs. In my lettuce wraps. In my Thai chicken lettuce wraps.

[A]

Yes, But a lettuce wrap is just a deconstructed meatball.

[B]

Well, so that's also a part of growing up is realizing, like, eight different meals are just made the exact same way, but, like, in different forms.

[A]

So, like, ground meat in different onion in different garlic trees. Like the ques. The cheese quesadilla is the grilled cheese of the South, I guess.

[B]

It is. Except that like grilled cheese. I'm sorry, Anyone who puts even a tomato in their grilled cheese is crazy. Like a grilled cheese with $8 worth of Yarlsberg is perfect. Right. So it's like, it's like better when you add veggies. Meat. Like it's not just cheese, but I'm.

[A]

Are we gonna have cheese and dough this way or that way today?

[B]

Yeah. Are we gonna have ground meat and onions this way or that way? Like meatballs Bolognese. Like you could literally do chicken lettuce wraps. Like tacos. Meat. Like it's all the same ingredients but like different seasonings.

[A]

Yeah, but it's also, it's. It's very like, you know, worldly experience. Where are we going to dine this evening? Around the world.

[B]

Last evening I dined at Zabars.

[A]

What? You had Zabars for dinner?

[B]

Yeah, you know, I picked up. So I was being so. I've actually been like, so chill lately. Very grab a slice energy. Okay. Like when we were in our trip, which I have to update you guys on in a minute. When we were on our trip, we were playing billiards and Ben was like, this is so grab a slice. It was like so like just spending the afternoon playing billiards. And then last night we just like went to the park and it was like four or five o'. Clock. So we're like, oh, should we pick up. We picked up some like pre made stuff from Zabars. Like some, you know, stuff. And it was, it was so chill. It was very gravisized.

[A]

Oh, that's nice. I've been chill as well. Like I feel like last week I was a little too chill. Like, I think we forgot to eat. No, we ordered in like probably like three. I usually like to order like once, maybe twice. And by ordering like either pick something up. But like now on Tuesdays, like we order pizza with like the.

[B]

That's so chill.

[A]

And like we'll go to the park or something like with like the Shapiro kids. And it like, it just was sort of born of necessity, but it's very chill and it's very fun.

[B]

There's something so special about pizza when you're a kid, I guess because it really marks like a celebration. You're not. You're eating pizza like a birthday party or like a gathering, like pizza. And you know what? As an adult, I want to say

[A]

it's just as special, like, and the box of pizza.

[B]

When I see like a stack of boxes, like, you know, I know Shit's about to go the.

[A]

You know, it's on in popping.

[B]

Like, what is it about pizza that's, like, so joyous? Celebratory.

[A]

So joyous. Yeah.

[B]

I don't know if it's the shape. Like, it's just beautiful.

[A]

Yeah. So I think that we're gonna have a pizza night tonight.

[B]

I need a pizza afternoon. I need a slice of pizza. When I was pregnant, I was always treating myself to a slice of pizza. I don't know why I stopped doing that.

[A]

Do it. Treat yourself, Turtle. Yeah, grab a slice.

[B]

I did want to update everyone about my Jewel saga from yesterday, because I now feel confident that I was very much underreacting. And I. There were things that could have gone wrong with this jewel that I didn't even think of until I told the story. And then people in the comments were like, yeah, and jewels are known for just, like, randomly exploding facts. I didn't even think of the fact that, like, Ruby could have found it and, like, started chewing on it.

[A]

Like, I. I wasn't, like, broken off a piece of it. It's a choking habit, so it was so much worse. It was under the mattress.

[B]

Thank God. I, of course, heard from the facility. Now it's wrong that I only heard from them because I have a podcast. You know what I mean? What about the mothers with jewels in their cribs who don't have a podcast? Like, it's wrong, but you're doing it for them. Yes. And full transparency. I did get my entire trip comped, which is not even what I wanted. I really thought that they had made it right, maybe comping, like, one night or, like, a free massage at the spa. Now they ended up spending more money and get them getting their name dragged through the mud because they couldn't have just been generous or just, like, done the right thing. So just full transparency. I did get a full refund. And let this be your sign to all the mamas out there. Like, you're not underreacting and you should make it a bigger deal. But then you hate to be like, oh, you're only giving me a $250 credit? Because it's like, well, that's not why I'm mad. Like, you know what I mean? Like, no, I don't seem like you're only getting mad so you get a credit.

[A]

No, no, no. I. I just. I don't feel like that feels that way. I don't.

[B]

Yeah. Somebody said, like, if you've ever set up a pack and play too, you would know that you Need a vape teenager. A teenager who has no idea how to set up a pack and play. Like, obviously he was stressed puffing on that jewel.

[A]

Okay. And they can, like, do a little less and just drop the pack and play at your room. And the parents know how to set it up.

[B]

And I actually think that that should be, like, a hotel policy in general.

[A]

Yeah. Like, I. You should have set up your hands. Touching.

[B]

Yeah. I was actually shocked when it arrived fully assembled. I was quite thrilled, I'm not gonna lie.

[A]

Yeah. I don't know. I guess if it didn't arrive assembled, we'd be like, oh, my gosh. Or sometimes they extend a crib and it's like, who's gonna put this crib together?

[B]

This crib for me?

[A]

It's not gonna be me. Plus, they know how their things work. Every pack and play as quirk. So they made it right.

[B]

They made it right. We're all good. We're. We're. We're fine.

[A]

And you did say other, like, nice things about the hotel. Yeah. In general, I. That's not like a thing that we subscribe to, like putting, like, a business on blast or whatever. But you were also just talking about the hotel in general in the spa and the divot for the breast. And so, like, we just wanted to know what hotel you were at.

[B]

The divot for the breasts.

[A]

You didn't, like, say it to be like. And you naturally. Carta Mohegan.

[B]

Don't bring Mohegan son into this. They would never. Wait, what?

[A]

I thought you said it's the Mohegan.

[B]

What?

[A]

The name.

[B]

Now you're disparaging more businesses. No, Mohegan sentence in Connecticut of the collection of hotels. I don't want to say it again because, you know, they made it right. That is like, the parent company. Yes.

[A]

Oh, I thought it was Mohegan Sun.

[B]

I haven't ever actually been to Mohegan sun as, like, a born and bred New Englander, by the way. Am I in New England? No.

[A]

No.

[B]

Okay. I said New England over the weekend. I was like, I don't think I'm actually, like, in New England. So Northeast. As a born and bred northeasterner, I've never been to Mohegan sun. And it's sort of like a rite of passage. I think we should go.

[A]

Yeah. I feel like our time passed. We thought, like, there was a time where we should have gone. For sure.

[B]

Yeah. Yeah.

[A]

You know when we used to go to, like, foxtrots.

[B]

Foxwoods.

[A]

Atlantic City.

[B]

Yeah. Yeah. We should have done a Mohegan sun weekend. But they're always having fire concerts.

[A]

Yeah. You know, so if you're out there and you want to go, you should go. It's never too late. Actually, it is too late to go to Mohegan sun for some people.

[B]

For us. Yeah.

[A]

But like, there's no time like the present is what I meant.

[B]

That's beautiful.

[A]

There's no time like the present.

[B]

It is Tuesday, which means we have deer toasters. And I, I took some of the feedback from the dtq, you know, the ever present dtq. It was getting dark just to like scale back a little bit on the darkness. I found them interesting. But I agree, like, that's not what this podcast is about. I'm sorry. I'm sorry for like all the pedophilia and like sex crimes.

[A]

Such a buzzkill.

[B]

A thousand percent. So we've got some light hearted, like, great P job. Like P. John Boyfriend. Yeah, the PNP job. Actually. Common misconception does not stand for pedophile. Like, sorry, guys, I forgot to tell you that.

[A]

I'm glad to hear that because it was getting heavy. Too heavy a load.

[B]

I see you. I hear you. As always. The dtq. I am your vessel and I am your messenger. And I will, I will make it right.

[A]

Good. We actually have so many stories today. I have to sort of like organize them because it's definitely more than five and. And the leftovers from yesterday didn't make the cut for sure.

[B]

What was it? Oh, you know, people really did want to hear your take about that.

[A]

I know. Oh, mine?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Why me specifically?

[B]

Because you're like a smart, fun, interesting person with the podcast. Like, is that okay?

[A]

Yeah, yeah, sure.

[B]

Happy, Happy to oblige.

[A]

My take is like he, he wants to get backlash. Like no person in their right mind.

[B]

Right.

[A]

Goes on a rant like that. That is like textbook. What, influence? What you can say.

[B]

Polarizing. Yeah.

[A]

Like he wants all of this. This is like maybe things were a little quiet on the James Charles Charles front. Do I have to have him on Namesake?

[B]

James Charles James. Oh, Charles. Last names don't count.

[A]

I guess. Like I could have him on namesake if I wanted to.

[B]

You know who we have to have our namesake?

[A]

Who? Charles from younger.

[B]

No, David Usher. You guys, when we were in high school, there was, you know, in every yellow cab there was a taxi TV and it would play like the same four clips. And one of the guys, he's like a local news correspondent who obviously got demoted to the taxi TV segment. His name is David Ushery. U S H E R Y and he was always like hey, in the backseat of the taxi, I'm David Usher. And it was like, is that my brother? Like it was insane.

[A]

We will definitely have what?

[B]

Yeah, I wonder.

[A]

He's the local reporter. He's definitely crushing it.

[B]

I actually think he's risen the ranks quite a bit. And he's like a big local NBC correspondent.

[A]

We're always rooting for him.

[B]

I'm always rooting for David Ashray and

[A]

Shade better in Wah and Sandy Kenyon. Why Sandy Kenyon? Like a toaster.

[B]

Yeah. No, actually I take it back. I love Sandy Kenyon.

[A]

But back to James Charles.

[B]

Danny Kenyon with the Eyewitness News movie minute.

[A]

James Charles like wants this to be happening. So all of it to me seems completely like fake because so for anyone

[B]

who's unfamiliar, he went on a rant on Tick Tock over the weekend just basically like talking about this message he got somebody being like can you donate to my GoFundMe? And it was like a person who didn't follow him.

[A]

Someone who got like laid off from Spirit Airlines abruptly when they went Mahala kaput.

[B]

And he just like did this insane rant on like how like why it's influencers responsibilities to donate to GoFundMes and like you don't even follow me. And it's like Spirit Airlines get your together and go get a job. Like it was the type of thing you think but you don't ever say like ever no.

[A]

And he has been an influencer for

[B]

over for so long.

[A]

He knows that that is like a one way trick ticket to backlash cancellation bill. And I think he wanted a trip there because it is exciting and fun to get on the ride sometimes. And it does like sort all exciting

[B]

and fun but it is an indicator of success. Like people who have real followings get backlash. It's like a signal that you are, you know, have an impact that you have influence. If you're shouting into a void, there's no backlash cuz no one's listening. So it is sort of like a rite of passage.

[A]

I think he was just doing like a gut check. Are people still listening to me?

[B]

Great, great.

[A]

I like, I actually am not going to like opine on what he meant and whether there was merit because he's baiting all of you and not me. What did you think about it?

[B]

I agree a thousand percent. You like what? Why on earth would you say that? I just want to say I do think there's one thing that he said that had merit. Just one. If you are going to send your GoFundMe, which you absolutely should, to influencers. Like, it's a huge opportunity. Like, you should just follow them, like.

[A]

Right.

[B]

Just courtesy, you know, it's just.

[A]

And it also. It helps your chances.

[B]

Absolutely.

[A]

Getting that and getting the. The donation.

[B]

It's not even the donation so much as, like, the platform.

[A]

Well, it helps your chances of, like, the visibility within the platform, but also, like, your influencer might want to do you a solid. Like, if they think that you're a fan of theirs, that would.

[B]

I just want to say there is a lot of. And I don't want to, like, you know, I don't want to get canceled for James Charles's Grimes, but there is a fair amount of scamming that goes on on GoFundMe. So when you are a person with a platform, you do have to be really careful about which ones you post. Yeah, it happens a lot.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I would say the majority of GoFundMes are like, good, honest things, but you just got to be careful.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah. There's a lot of things. You know, the Internet's a crazy place. You don't know this. You're telling me I don't know this account. Did this account make yesterday? Like, you just don't know. So, yeah, just sort of. I don't know. I think just do your best. I think he knew what he was doing. So, like, oh, yeah.

[B]

James Charles, far too seasoned. This is a rookie rookie rant. Yeah, Rookie rookie of the year rant.

[A]

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[A]

Why do people want to hear me talk about James Charles? Because they thought I was going to agree with him.

[B]

Oh, I don't know. I just, like, I thought people wanted to hear you talk about it.

[A]

That's funny. You know, I did. I thought, like, I saw that people wanted us to talk about, but now I'm like, why? They thought I was going to go hard.

[B]

I'm cracking up. No, maybe they thought you were gonna agree with him. For sure.

[A]

For sure. Okay, first up, Sports Illustrated 2026 cover models have been announced. We have four covers. Hillary Duff, Alex Earl, Nicole Williams English, and Tiffany Haddish.

[B]

So I have so many thoughts. Like, obviously, as Alex Earl's, like, literally number one fan and as of most recently, like, her inspiration. I love this. I do want to say, and this is zero, zero, like, sight against Alex Earl. Is it such an obvious choice? And I remember like, a year or two ago when they first, like, had her on the digital cover and like, they should have been brave and like, taking a chance on a young influencer then. Because now it's like, well, yeah, obviously, you know.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And I feel like for always, I mean, I have to just forget this idea of sorts illustrated that I have in my head because at one point, like, it was the maker and breaker of things and now they're just like, up with trends. Like, what's cool now when, like, you know, the plus size movement was plus size.

[A]

Hillary Duff is on a tour, so we'll put her on the COVID Even though last she would never been considered because she's, like, not doing press. Like, yeah. It's just so pr.

[B]

I remember when both Zandra and Alex Earl had gotten plucked, I think two years ago, it was such a big deal and it would have been such a risk and like a, like a statement if they had chosen Alex. And I actually remember saying, like, she should be on the COVID And then like, a few months later, they put on the digital cover. So it's like they had to work up to it. And I just feel like they're not taking chances. Like, I. I like moves.

[A]

Like, Whoopi Goldberg would have been a bold move.

[B]

Correct. I have zero, literally zero issue with any of these choices. I'm just like, not inspired. And I actually think some of the pictures are not good. Like, I think they kind of did Hillary Duff dirty. She's like, her neck looks broken.

[A]

Yeah. And it's. Yeah. There's a difference between, like, what looks like, like, high editorial when you look at the covers versus, like, oh, I'M on vacation and I. And I took a picture and we've had that issue in the past.

[B]

Yes. By the way, what you just said is brilliant. Oh, it's because these days with the G7X, like, I could take these pictures.

[A]

Yeah. Like I'm on all these influencers.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I want to say covers wise, I think Alex Earl's cover is unreal.

[B]

Let me look at them all together. I do want to say I didn't know that Tiffany Haddish was rocking a body like that. Do you know what I mean? That's why I like.

[A]

It's always good to, like, learn of a new body.

[B]

Beautiful body. Yeah.

[A]

Like when they did Salma Hayek.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I guess she's the Salma of this year.

[B]

Why are you saying it like that? Like I was gonna let it slide the first time. I really was.

[A]

Salma.

[B]

Salma. Like, why Salma?

[A]

I said Salma.

[B]

Salma Hayek.

[A]

Salma.

[B]

You're putting so much L into it. It's like a light out.

[A]

I like saying it. It's a light L. I like it. Why? Because I like it. Are you looking at the covers?

[B]

Yeah. I just want to say, if you're writing about Sports Illustrated, like who the models are and you're not putting the covers in your articles todayshow.com.

[A]

like, seriously, they must not have the rights or something. You have to go to. I. I only found it on swimsuit.si.com.

[B]

okay. Yeah. Tiffany Haddish's body's insane. Like, I had no idea. Nicole Williams English is giving, like, you know, Sports Illustrated.

[A]

Yeah. To me, I love Nicole Williams English. She's from wag. She's like one of them.

[B]

I don't know her.

[A]

She's like Courtney's best friend. I think she's going to be on the Girls. She's like Olivia, Natalie and Nicole. And she's been in Sports Illustrated. She announced her pregnancy on the Runway of S I Swim. And she's another one for me that feels belated, you know, like now she's just like a classic Sports Illustrated girl and like, give. You should have given her the COVID pregnant five years ago. Like, that would have been interesting.

[B]

It's so funny when I think about trends because I feel like for so many years, like, boobs were everything. Boobs are in, boobs out, boobs out.

[A]

And.

[B]

And now I feel like boobs are not boobs are out and like vaginas

[A]

in, you know, I mean, but what about. But remember the butt?

[B]

Well, yeah, but like super high waisted Bikinis where you can, like, see, like, the.

[A]

I actually feel like.

[B]

I know.

[A]

I feel like boobs are coming back.

[B]

I hope so. Boobs were like, covers are not very booby.

[A]

Boobs are very, like, early 2000s, and then they went away, and then the butt was here for a while. But now I feel like, you know, C cups are coming back.

[B]

I don't know why. Like, Hillary's picture is so weird. Don't you find, like, her position? She looks so, like, in pain.

[A]

I feel like that's how she likes to be, you know, I just want

[B]

to say, like, these are good.

[A]

I love Alex's cover, and if this was the one, it would be. If I had to pick one, I think hers is the best, and I think that it should have been one. And, like, you're never gonna catch me loving a four cover announcement.

[B]

Bring back. And this is.

[A]

I would say it every year. So at this point.

[B]

But I mean, this in the world, like, bring back. Just choosing one.

[A]

Yeah. No, but at this point, like, we have said this. We say this every single year. I feel like working record every single year. It's four covers. I don't think we're ever gonna get one cover ever again. I'm never gonna give up hope, but I'm telling you, I'll never give a damn about what you're doing if there's four of them.

[B]

And if we're never gonna get four covers again, fine. We're never gonna get an iconic cover ever again. Nothing can be iconic when you're a part of a group. I'm sorry, we have not had an iconic. When I think of the last, like, really iconic, I don't know.

[A]

But also, I also like a couple girls on one cover. That's fine with me.

[B]

I could have 50 people on one cover. I just want one cover.

[A]

They did that.

[B]

I'm sorry. None of them were wearing bathing suits. They were all wearing gowns. That was awful.

[A]

That was awful.

[B]

No, they're syncing it up big time. This is so fine. It's. It's completely fine.

[A]

Yeah, it's not, like, exciting or innovative. The big deal that it once was.

[B]

So.

[A]

Okay, let's move on.

[B]

If I was, like, wanting to, you know, look deeper into this and be annoying, like, body positive influence. I think these covers really do also reflect that, like, the body positivity movement, like, is over. Like, that is out according to these covers. Not me. I would never say that. But, like, it's giving, you know, it's

[A]

G much like other things, you know?

[B]

Yeah. Trends come and go. I'm just saying, like, if I. If I wanted to make a statement, I would, but I. I don't want to.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I, like, I can't remember the last time they didn't include, you know, a little something in there.

[A]

Yeah. But I guess, like, they're covering different categories here.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Old, young, mothers, true singers, comedians. Yeah.

[B]

Yeah. It's fine. I feel fine about this. Like, obviously, I love my girl Alex Earl.

[A]

I love Tiffany Haddish. I love Nicole Williams.

[B]

English Hillary Duff Although she and I have a complicated relationship.

[A]

But you've moved past it.

[B]

Absolutely.

[A]

Yeah. But it just. It's just not what it once was. Like, I almost. I almost miss. When we were just getting to speculate over who the COVID was, that was almost more fun than the.

[B]

Of course. Because it's never going to be as good as our guesses.

[A]

I just want to say, like, I do think Alex Earl's cover is really. I mean, it's a real. It's a cover that feels like a real cover.

[B]

Yeah. Not just like a Canon GS7 GS G7X on, like, the beach in the Bahamas.

[A]

Yeah. And if it was given, you know, more of a pride of place treatment, like, it could have been iconic, but now it'll just be forgotten with the rest of these.

[B]

Well, this is just like a huge sleigh for Alex. Of all the COVID she's probably like, the most up and coming technically. Even though she's like, she's come, you know.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

She's here.

[A]

No, honestly, to say, for the other girls, like, to be amongst her ranks. Well, that was fun.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Are you ready for our next story? Major upfronts, like, all happened yesterday.

[B]

I saw that the upfronts were happening.

[A]

NBC, Universal, Fox and Amazon all hosted upfronts yesterday. And we got a lot of new show, canceled show information.

[B]

So upfronts are like B2B events where the networks, like, hosts these huge events for, like, their advertisers and their partners announcing what shows are coming, what shows are leaving. It's like a big programming update, and they often make it, like, a big spectacle. They have a lot of celebrities in attendance, you know, Partners.

[A]

Yeah. To get everyone excited and drum up interest in the coming programming slate. So here's what we have from nbcu. First of all, they played a clip from the summer house reunion. They did. Yeah. Where they were talking about west, like, exclusive relationship. It was like a sidebar conversation, like, with Sierra and Kyle and someone maybe, like, I don't even know. It wasn't part of, like, the actual reunion was, like, hot mic talking about, like, West's relationship just to, like, titillate the viewers.

[B]

Oh, that's exciting.

[A]

Yes. Then we had Jimmy Fallon and Bozie show canceled.

[B]

I was very upset about that, even though I didn't watch it, so I can't.

[A]

When you didn't watch one episode.

[B]

I know, because I just want, like, good things for my girl Bose. That's why I'm upset. I don't care about Jimmy Fallon. Like, he'll be fine, but, like, I wanted that for bows.

[A]

Yeah. Another show, like, that was announced that we were excited about and that has been subsequently canceled. I forget what it was, but I was like, how can I be mad about this? I did not watch it.

[B]

I know. And, like, that's on me for sure. And, like, I should have, like, been using my platform to get everyone to watch it, but. But I didn't, so.

[A]

But. But we didn't then, you know, Vin Diesel was there. Tina Fey.

[B]

Bravo announced a new show, Secrets, Lies, Texas Wives.

[A]

It's giving, like, reality version of Hunting Wives.

[B]

Yeah. It's also clearly, like, a play on the secret lives of Mormon wives.

[A]

Yeah. But I feel like they're trying to, like, capitalize on the Hunting Wives phenomenon.

[B]

Yeah. I found it shocking just because, like. And I feel like we were talking about this with the Hulu Get Real event where Hulu has kind of taken over for Bravo as, like, the leading unscripted, like, destination for unscripted TV shows. So the fact that, like, they have a show coming out that is. I don't know what it's really about, but it seems like a play on secret lives. And more wise, it's kind of a big deal. Like, Bravo's always been, like, setting the trends. Now they're sort of following them.

[A]

Yeah. Also I saw in Peacock, Madison lacroix getting a show, a vertical series about, like. Like, you know, a confessional style show with people in her chair as she, like, does their hair.

[B]

That's cute.

[A]

Yeah, that is cute. There was another one that was like, that. Hold on. I saved it, but I'll have to find it. Yeah, like, a lot of little shows announced. The real Housewives upcoming 20th anniversary special.

[B]

Rhode Island Housewives got picked up for season two, which I don't think shocks anyone.

[A]

No, everyone's talking about that. Where's my Madison? Oh, I didn't save it. Then there was also the Fox up front. Spaywatch ladies were out. Brooks and the girls.

[B]

I saw Brooks, Libby and Shay Mitchell. Is she Mitchell in it yeah. Okay.

[A]

And Hassi Harrison.

[B]

She could go on Namesake.

[A]

She could go on Namesake and then also Amazon up fronts.

[B]

I didn't really see much about that.

[A]

Yeah. There's a new show called Reality Retreat, which is coming on Amazon Prime Video, and It's about, like, 13 reality TV alumni, women who are going on, like, a wellness retreat designed to challenge their identities, relationships, and personal growth. The cast includes Kenya Moore, Margaret Joseph's Kim Zolciak, Christine Quinn, Brittany Cartwright, Tamar Braxton, Caitlin Bristow, Jen Trans, Savannah, Chrisley Hilaria.

[B]

Oh, wow.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Yeah. This is just giving, like, another one of those shows. It doesn't sound that good.

[A]

It sounds really bad. Like, there's really no. There's no hook. What? We're gonna go watch them do a wellness retreat.

[B]

Therapy. I'm all set. I also think that for a while, there was this genre of shows where they were, like, collecting random reality stars, like, making them do challenges, and they were never very good. House of Villains, MTV is the Challenge, and X on the Beach. And then, like, Traders really sort of leveled up that genre of show where it's like, we can't just watch garbage like that anymore. We need more compelling content. So that's why that Mafia show that Hulu announced does sound like it'll be good. There's, like, now this genre. We can't like no more Garbage.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, it sounds like garbage.

[B]

It's. It does.

[A]

Amazon. It's like, their stuff, their take on trying to get in the reality game.

[B]

Like, it's so random.

[A]

Jeff, sit down.

[B]

Seriously.

[A]

And then there's. Oh, apparently, I think Netflix upload insert today, and they're announcing the name of the Earl family show.

[B]

Is it not Earl Girls?

[A]

Is it. Would it be, like, Real Earls? Real Earls. What if my name is.

[B]

I thought it was Earl of Sandwich.

[A]

What did you think it was?

[B]

I thought it was, like, already decided. Earl Girls.

[A]

I didn't know we were, like, waiting for it.

[B]

I'm pretty sure it's the Over Girls. Even though it's kind of hard to say now that I keep saying it.

[A]

I think it should be real Earls.

[B]

I think it should be getting activists with the realis. What do you think?

[A]

Yeah, I think that's good. Or it could be, like, get something. Get real with me. I don't. You know, Earl Girls. But it's also, like, about her family and her parents.

[B]

It's all girls just accept her dad.

[A]

I think he's a mean character, but

[B]

he's like the Earl Girls managers.

[A]

We would have already Known that I think it's going to be something different.

[B]

But what I'm saying is that, like, I did know that. Do you know what I mean?

[A]

Like, yeah, no, but that's from like years ago.

[B]

So, yeah, when she first popped off, there was like a false start where she was trying to get her sister and her stepmom and like all this, you know, different ancillary characters trying to get them off the ground. And they were shopping a show around that I believe was called Earl Girls. And it didn't really, it wasn't the right time. So I think she put on the back burner and then it kind of happened organically where people were like, really into Ashton and then the stepmom. And so now I think it's the right time for the arc Oral Girls

[A]

is the right name, though.

[B]

We'll see.

[A]

It should be Love Thy Earl.

[B]

No, I think it should be Earl Thy Nader.

[A]

I think it should be Keeping up with the Earls.

[B]

Oh, I like that. Living Earl.

[A]

Yeah. So that's a bunch of new programming. There's a bunch of more stuff, but, you know, check it out.

[B]

Cool.

[A]

Should. Should check it out. Next story is one that I'm really excited to share with you because Kylie Kelsey won the Webby Award for Podcast of the Year and she. Wow. She gave a very inspiring five word speech after.

[B]

So the thing about the Webbies that I only recently learned is that when you win an award, you're only allowed to make a speech that's five words.

[A]

Oh, I didn't know that.

[B]

I thought everybody prepares the five words because I remember Jake Shane won one. Remember Kim did nude selfies till I die like a million years ago.

[A]

Oh, funny.

[B]

So people, like, I don't know if you know you're going to win, but every nominee has like an idea of what they're going to say.

[A]

That's a really cute concept. I didn't know. I'm glad for that backstory because I was about to be like, why? Why? What was the speech? So here were Kylie Kelsey's five words for winning Podcast of the Year.

[B]

Not me. Us. Go Birds.

[A]

Women. Women. Supporting women. Go Birds.

[B]

Why women Supporting women? Like Pharrell?

[A]

Why not? Why not? That's crazy.

[B]

That's. Who else was nominated. I also think it's crazy that she won because, like, she didn't have the Podcast of the year, like maybe the year before. Like, she had a big launch, but I think she just has, like regular podcasts like everyone else now, you know?

[A]

Yeah. Okay, so here were the nominees for hang for podcast of the year. How am I ever gonna find this?

[B]

Okay, whatever. Like, I was just curious. Like, was Amy Poehler not nominated?

[A]

I'm sure she was. Okay. Anyways, Women supporting women. Go birds. Inspiring.

[B]

What would your five word speech be? I got mine.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Thank you. Grab a spoon.

[A]

Mine would be the place looks great. Period.

[B]

Okay, well. Well, I know it always.

[A]

Mine would be, well, the place looks great.

[B]

Perfect. Perfect.

[A]

What? I mean, I could go on fun exercise.

[B]

Yeah, I could go on forever is what I was gonna say. I could also do. There is no 5K

[A]

Bloom where you are planted.

[B]

I got it. Look at us. Lead an ordinary life. Flubbert.

[A]

Be violent in your work.

[B]

That's really good.

[A]

If we won together, maybe we could get like two sets of five and then we could complete the flubber quote.

[B]

Actually, I really have the best one. This is for the swirlies.

[A]

This is for the swirl.

[B]

That's five.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, I've got that swirl. I was just doing that one. We've got that swirl. Swirla tude, exclamation point.

[B]

No, swirlitude is a hyphenate.

[A]

That's really fun. Anyways, Women supporting women. Go birds.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

I thought you would love that.

[B]

I just feel like there's seriously two different types of podcasts out there for women. The first is women supporting women. Go birds. And the other is we've got that swirlitude. Like, that's just the opposite. Like, I would never. And the funny thing is, like, what I've come to learn is, like, I'm actually a woman who supports other women. Like, a lot of people just talk the talk when I actually walk the walk, like, taking all the hate I've taken for Blake Lively. So it's like, funny as, like, like an actual woman who supports other women, you know?

[A]

Yeah. You would just think, like, Kylie would. Would clown on stuff like that.

[B]

Absolutely. I don't really, like, I don't listen to her podcast, so I don't fully understand, like, her ethos, you know, like, what her brand. Because she's like, raw and real.

[A]

And then she says, and sometimes that

[B]

means, like, you're not supporting women if you're raw and real.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah.

[B]

So I'm not sure.

[A]

Well, are you ready for our next story? Which I guess is our fourth story.

[B]

Wait, how?

[A]

How? Because we did Sports Illustrated up and five word Kylie.

[B]

Kelsey forgot about Sports Illustrated. I'm ready.

[A]

So our fourth story is that Benedict Cumberbatch had a heated 10 minute road rage fight with a cyclist.

[B]

Yeah, I saw this video. I Forgot about Benedict Cumberbatch?

[A]

Well, I didn't forget about him. I just don't know him because I don't. I'm not familiar with his work. Like, he's someone who has really missed me, which is funny because you would think that, like, he would be one of my genres, but he's really not.

[B]

I just saw that movie about. It's not about, but, like, the place where the Rose Code took place.

[A]

Oh, Bridge of Spies.

[B]

No, no, that's Tom Hanks.

[A]

The.

[B]

The Rose Code one where they're cracking, like, the Nazis Imitation Game. So he's in that, right?

[A]

Yes. I did not see that, but I read Rose Code.

[B]

Right. I think that was my first time sort of interfacing with Benedict. And he. Let me tell you, I know this is not a surprise, but he's a very good actor.

[A]

Yeah. No, and he's in a lot of stuff, like Sherlock, Dr.

[B]

Strange, and he's like a major hobbit.

[A]

And it's just, like, all things that I happen to not watch.

[B]

Right, right.

[A]

You would think that I would. However, one work of his I've watched

[B]

backwards and forwards is his video with the cyclist. No.

[A]

Is the Grinch. He plays the Grinch.

[B]

I thought you were making a joke. Like a piece of art that he's. That you've seen him in is the video of him and the cyclist.

[A]

To be honest, I didn't really watch the video because, like, to me, Benedict Cumberbatch, like, he's not one of my famous people, you know, he's not my celebrity.

[B]

Yeah. This, like, didn't move anything for me, but I just love to see celebrities, like, acting out of turn. Although I do feel like the headline was misleading. Like, the guy was following him. Like, get away.

[A]

Yeah. It would be, like, I guess for other people the way it would feel for me if, like, Matthew from Downton Abbey was, like, fighting in the street and having a road rage incident.

[B]

Well, now that you like that, I actually think that would be insane.

[A]

Right. So, like, that's what it's like for the Cumberbatchers.

[B]

Yeah. And also, he doesn't go out a lot. Like, he's not a celebrity, like, always getting spotted.

[A]

And he's just, like, a very, like, erudite actor. So who's, like, roles are not Congress with road rage.

[B]

Yeah. He plays, like, often like a nobleman.

[A]

Yeah. Like, not congress, like, fighting in the streets. Yeah.

[B]

It wasn't, like, really fighting. It was, like, a lot of, like, you know, stern finger pointing. But I think the guy was following Him. Celebrities love to ride bikes, like, in major cities. You know, one time I saw Alan coming on a bike.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Before Traders.

[A]

Yeah, yeah. He. He was fighting, I guess. I don't really. I don't know. But like, so I don't have an opinion. I don't know if he was right or wrong. Like, is this an Alec Baldwin situation?

[B]

Oh, oh, oh, no. I don't think that, like, the veil has been lifted and Benedict Cumbratch is actually, like, an evil guy. I think he was driven to this point. And road rage will do that to you. And that's the thing they say, death is the great equalizer. No, it's road rage. Because even your faves experience rage on the road.

[A]

Really? I try and keep it even, Keel. I do. I know, like, you and Ben actually have, like, a serious case of road rage, Jackie.

[B]

I think, like, that's universal.

[A]

No, no, I. I think I would agree with you. Like, there's frustrations out on the road.

[B]

Frustrations for sure.

[A]

But you and Ben suffer, and both of you at a very high level for murder age.

[B]

I don't think that that's true, actually,

[A]

when I drive with you and like, someone's just like. And like, the road is.

[B]

But you're like Driving Miss Daisy with your, like, tiny little three miles an hour.

[A]

No, no. And by the way, I do speed a little, but you.

[B]

I speed a little.

[A]

You get. You have road rage.

[B]

I find me and Benedict Summer Match and Ben Soffer.

[A]

I think you guys offer. Bring that out each other.

[B]

I feel as though when. I can't believe we've been discussing Benedict Cumberratch the entire time. It's crazy that his name is Benedict.

[A]

It's. Yeah, no, it's. It's a big name.

[B]

And don't you find that Mr. Arnold, like, ruined that name? Because now, like, Benedict sort of a verb for trader.

[A]

But it's a beautiful name if you really go by or anything. If you take it down to the studs. It's historic. No, and it's. It. You could go by Ben, you could go by dad.

[B]

But don't you. You could. Don't you feel like Benedict Arnold very much did for the name Benedict, but like Hitler did for the name Adolf? Like, nobody named their kid Adolf after that.

[A]

Well, well, first of all, Benedict Cumberbatch. Not Cumberbatch. Sorry. Benedict Arnold, while a traitor to Americans, is probably a hero to the British.

[B]

Oh, that's true. Because, you know, history is written by the victors.

[A]

Yeah. So, like, he was fighting for the British that's probably. That's their guy. Like, oh, he was in there like a Trojan horse.

[B]

Right, right, right.

[A]

They probably come the line probably associate him with one of the greatest spies. He's there. Eli Cohen, actually.

[B]

So true. I mean, looking at this from such an American perspective.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

But I feel like Adolf, like, even

[A]

to the Germans ruined Germany too.

[B]

Right, right. You know, even like his loyal subjects were not down.

[A]

No, no. Like, so it's not the same.

[B]

And it's not like it's such a beautiful name. Like, I feel like the country probably had like an easy time parting with it because it's kind of uggo.

[A]

No, I think it's a nice name. Think about it.

[B]

Adolf. Oh, no, no, no.

[A]

Benedict.

[B]

You know what I'm saying? Like Benedict they maybe like had a hard time parting with because it's a beautiful name. Adolf. Yuck. Well, yeah, the Adolf looks beautiful.

[A]

I feel like it always does. I feel like there are names similar to Adolf that like could scratch that itch if you really wanted to. To go Adolf, you know, like, like Rudolph. Sure.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

There's also another one. Wait, hold on. I need to CC's children. I just need to

[B]

like Henrik.

[A]

No, it's Rudolph. Rudolph.

[B]

Yeah. It's a good thing, like Stalin went by his last name because Joseph would have been like a tough name to lose.

[A]

We couldn't part with Joseph.

[B]

Yeah. Not him having a biblical name.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Heinrich. I feel like that one's.

[A]

But I do think Adolf was a little bit of a trendy name, you know, because like Joseph.

[B]

1930s energy.

[A]

Because Joseph, like it.

[B]

It's timeless.

[A]

Yeah. It precedes Stalin. There's so much history to the right.

[B]

Adolf was just sort of very much like aged himself.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah. It's very trendy.

[B]

That's beautiful.

[A]

Are you ready for our fifth and final story?

[B]

Rudolph.

[A]

Rudolph. He was the prince of Austria.

[B]

He was also the red nosed reindeer.

[A]

Classic stuff is the fifth and final

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[A]

Our fifth and final story A little book to Movie News did you ever read the Midnight Library?

[B]

No, but I also heard Beach Read is going to theaters, Be Treated is

[A]

going to theaters and the Midnight Library will be a film adaptation starring Florence Pugh. So Midnight Library, which was a Redheads book was the number one New York Times bestselling 2020 novel. It was the biggest book of the year. It was.

[B]

I started it. I didn't like it. It's like, the only person.

[A]

It's a very good book. Maybe it was just, like, not with the vibe you were feeling at the time, but it's.

[B]

Maybe I should get back into it.

[A]

I just don't think it's your vibe. It's like. It's kind of dark, you know, it's not, like, super fun, but it's insightful. And.

[B]

Was she dead?

[A]

I forget. Yes.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

She was on the brink, and she got to, like, well, this isn't like a spoiler, but it's like a magical. She finds herself in a magical library that allows her to explore all the alternate universes of her life that she could have lived, all the different choices that she could have made.

[B]

Right. Right. I didn't care.

[A]

And no, it. It. It's a great book. Florence P. Will be playing Nora Seed, the protagonist, which I think that works for me. Like, she's very book.

[B]

She's quiet. She's been quiet. No.

[A]

Yeah. And she's a good act. Like, she, like, when she's tied to the project, it'll be a legit.

[B]

Yeah. I do feel like when they adapt movies, they are always, like, pulling from the same pool of people. She's new.

[A]

I actually don't think.

[B]

Edgar Jones, Anne Hathaway.

[A]

She was in Little Women, which was also a book. I feel like she's part of the book crew, and I. Maybe there's just, like, a group of women in Hollywood who read, and when they hear that these books are becoming movies, they want to be involved because they know it's a really good story.

[B]

Yeah, maybe.

[A]

Yeah. The readers. Emma Roberts.

[B]

Yeah. Classic stuff.

[A]

Yeah. So it's a good way to get good roles is to read.

[B]

Yeah, it is. And that's a good. She's good. I like her.

[A]

Yeah, she's another one. I actually am not familiar with a lot of her work. Like, just has missed me, but I. I will watch this.

[B]

So she was actually in Oppenheimer. I saw her. I saw her boobs.

[A]

Didn't see it.

[B]

I saw her boobs.

[A]

I didn't see it. I didn't see. Don't worry, darling. I didn't see Little Women.

[B]

But don't you think it's crazy that there were boobs in Oppenheimer? Like, so unnecessary.

[A]

Of course there were boobs in Oppenheimer. Of course.

[B]

Why of course?

[A]

Where Oppenheimer be without boobs. How could you make a movie about the atomic bomb right out some boobies? How could you do it?

[B]

So if you haven't seen Oppenheimer yet, like, maybe now you will because I told you there are boobies in it.

[A]

And that's precisely why now I'll watch it.

[B]

Because why the war was won. It's why the war was won.

[A]

Well, maybe it was a reason.

[B]

Well, fighting the bomb looks great. It always does. Let's dive into Dear Toasters, our weekly advice segment. Every Tuesday, Jackie and I pick three submissions from our community people. Write into us at dear toasters gmail.com or head over to our website the toast podcast.com so you can, you know, hear from us if you're going through any sort of issue at work, at home. Are you ready? Dear Toasters, Light edition.

[A]

Thank you.

[B]

Hey Jackson Turd. It's my first Mother's Day. Oh no, sorry. Like not me actually reading a sentence. I wasn't there. Happy first no. Let's try this again. Dear Jackson Turdy First, Happy Mother's Day to my two favorite podcasters. I gave birth to my son a week ago and we named him after my husband. We are in the newborn haze sitting around talking about what to do for my first Mother's Day when the doorbell rings and flowers arrive. I open the card and it says Happy Mother's Day from your favorite xo, Jenny. Jenny is my sister. Right away I'm confused because the flowers look half dead and the note does not sound like her at all. We'd also just been joking about how people keep bringing flowers for newborn gifts and it's literally the least helpful thing you can bring. So I text her asking if she sent them and she says no. Then she texts my parents to ask if maybe they sent flowers on her behalf and they did not. Later we look again at the delivery slip to figure out who actually sent the mystery flowers, and it turns out they came from my husband's company. The problem is that my husband has no idea who Jenny is. For context, my husband is loyal and present and truly the last person on earth who would be have the energy for a double life. He works himself. He works for himself running a distributor for medical supplies with one employee. He's technically associated with a larger corporate company, but he doesn't have any co workers in the normal sense. There's no office full of people where some random Jenny could be lurking. We also follow each other on Find My iPhone, so there's literally no room for secrets or anything Now I am one week postpartum, holding a newborn and staring at these wilted flowers from someone named Jenny, and I cannot tell if this is a. A mistake. I cannot tell if this is a simple mistake, a weird mix up in the corporate system or something else entirely. So what do you think?

[A]

Okay, so it's very weird and giving spooky and like, oh, gosh, we need to, you know, go on an investigation. We need to do an investigation into your husband. But I'm gonna. Like, what you're saying is true. And I do think there's at a certain point, like, if you have your husband on, like, find my iPhone and like, he's always home saying he works from, like, you know, where he is at every minute of the day. Like, actually, how could he be conducting an affair? Right. And I also want to say, like, you are one week postpartum, and I want us to, like, pocket this information, remember that it was weird, and forget it. Like, you can't make yourself crazy and sick. I think we just need to just give your husband the benefit of the doubt, assume that it was a mistake. Maybe the flora sent it to the wrong. I mean, even though it's Happy First Mother's Day, it's very weird.

[B]

But I. I think the weirder part is that the flowers are dead. That's where it's like.

[A]

It's like, very, like, spooky and ominous.

[B]

Yeah, yeah. Because a florist would never deliver dead flowers.

[A]

Like, yeah, call the florist shop.

[B]

Yeah. If you want to investigate, my first stop would of course be the floral shop as well.

[A]

You should call the floral shop. And also, like, you should let them know they delivered half dead. Like, how could they bring that to your door? But I also, like, you don't need to make yourself crazy about this. Like, if your husband is a line cheating scoundrel and he's having an affair. You know what?

[B]

You'll find out soon enough.

[A]

A couple months. You just had a baby a couple months. And I. And I don't think that he is. So why. Why make ourselves crazy for nothing? You know, sometimes, like, if things do just get confused and, like, do you even want to know that this week? Like, talk to me in three months.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

For now, Jackie's right. Like, pocket the information, but, like, definitely spooky.

[A]

Definitely spooky. Spooky for sure. And I don't think he's a lying, cheating scoundrel. I don't.

[B]

Me neither.

[A]

But this isn't the time for that information. Honestly, like, very inconvenient. Truth.

[B]

Agreed. Al Gore said it best. Hey, girlies. You both are smart, beautiful and skinny as hell. Literally can't even see you. I'm cracking up. Anyways, that's how you get your submission read. By the way, just call us skinny. My husband got me a diamond band for my wedding set for mother's Day. Exactly what I asked for. Good job. Except I saw that he purchased the ring on Amazon. Now this would not be a problem if he hadn't. If he had presented it as such, but he literally put my ring in a box from the jeweler that did my engagement ring and my wedding band. So he was clearly trying to pass it off as higher quality. But it's from Amazon. Should I confront him? Should I let it be? It matches my real band from the jeweler. But it kind of makes me sad that he's lying about it from being from Amazon.

[A]

Is it diamonds from Amazon?

[B]

I don't think you can buy diamonds on Amazon.

[A]

You can buy everything. Is it lab grown diamonds on Amazon or is it seriously a 20 ring?

[B]

I think it's a 20 ring that he's trying to pass off as like a two thousand dollar ring.

[A]

He tried? Wow. I just like, wow. I wonder what sort of place he has to be in and that like you guys are in where he couldn't just like be honest with you. Like, I don't like deception. So like, if it's like, why are you the sort of person who's like pretending that these are diamonds when they're not diamonds? Were you supposed, are you supposed to be able to afford diamonds? Are you at that level and where are the diamonds then if you're earning that much, like, or it's known that you wouldn't be able to afford that. So why are you pretending like you can?

[B]

Not to theorize, of course. Like, maybe, you know, he lost a

[A]

job or something or he spent the money on his girlfriend

[B]

or on his boyfriend. Yeah, right, right. It sounds like he has a secret boyfriend and he got the real diamond ring and you got the fake one from Amazon. See, things could be so much worse.

[A]

Yeah, yeah. I don't like deception, you know, especially in a. She said married.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, you gotta bring it up because of the deception. And like I, I'm afraid, obviously I hate to make a mountain out of a molehill. Like maybe this is just iceberg and he's having financial problems like something. So unfortunately, like you have to bring it up. Sorry.

[A]

Yeah, I just, I just don't think. I feel like there should Be secrets. There shouldn't be deception in a marriage. You can't afford a diamond ring. Don't. Don't pretend like you can. It's okay. Like, we don't need a diamond ring. Sounds like you have a band and an engagement ring.

[B]

Sounds like you got quite a few. Sounds like you're a little spoiled.

[A]

You're stacked up like, so there's worse things than not being able to afford that diamond ring. But just be honest. I need honesty. I need to. I need to know the playing field.

[B]

I agree. And maybe, you know, this deception is indicative of a larger issue. A queerness. Something like that.

[A]

Yeah. Gambling. He spent. He gambled away your diamond ring money, right?

[B]

Or. Or he spent it on, you know, gowns because he's a cross dresser. Like, there's a million things. Like, you seriously never know.

[A]

Let me. How about these Mental gymnastics. What if he bought a ring that he liked the design of on Amazon to see if he liked the design, and then he took that to the jeweler and the jeweler made a real version and so. Oh, you saw that he bought a ring like that on Amazon, but it was in the jeweler's box because he bought it for real.

[B]

Yeah. And then you bring it up and you're just like the. Like he went so far out of

[A]

his way to get a sample.

[B]

Right. Bring it up. Yeah. Third and final. Hey, Jackson. Claude. Sorry, Claude. This might be a little triggering considering the recent events that happened to you over Mother's Day, but I need advice. When my husband and I got married, we both agreed to quit vaping for our health. I got pregnant right away, so it was very easy for me to stop. And he said that he did too, but I've suspected that he has not. Back in February, I saw him outside, clearly vaping, and he denied it. This past weekend, we went out of town for a wedding and I found a vape with a half, half empty pod in it at a package full of pods. I didn't bring it up then because I did not want to ruin our weekend, but now I'm not sure how to approach it. I'm pissed about the vaping, but even more pissed about the lying. I also care about his health and I want him to be the healthiest that he can be for our son. How do I talk to him about this without turning it into a fight or feeling like I'm nagging?

[A]

That's really annoying.

[B]

It is. Like, as somebody who successfully quit vaping and not because I was pregnant, like, yeah, it's A little easy to quit vaping. Like, you have, like, literally no choice when you're doing it. Like, to support your wife. Like, you kind of have a choice. Right. But your initial reasoning together for stopping was, like, to be healthy and for your future children and now your current children. So once again, it all leads back to deception. Yeah, but maybe he has, like, such an oral fixation on the vape because he sucks a lot of times.

[A]

Maybe he's, like, also stopped, like, being.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So this is sort of a placeholder. I just, like, I. I'm feeling very unsympathetic towards this man. Like, I don't think. I think, like, yeah, quitting vaping would be a challenge, but it's really not that hard, you know?

[B]

Have you tried being pregnant?

[A]

Like, go to war, you know?

[B]

Yeah, right, right. Get a job vaping. Figure it out. I totally figure it out. Yeah. And also, what's worse than, like, you literally having proof of somebody? Like, I saw you smoking. He's like, no, I wasn't like.

[A]

And then.

[B]

But I see the proof.

[A]

But that also goes back to lies. I don't like lies.

[B]

I know. So it's. It's always. It's never the crime. It's literally always like, if you said,

[A]

I saw you smoking, and then he was like, I know, babe. I'm having such a hard time. Like, it's like, I'm gaining weight. And then I could be sympathetic towards that. I could, of course. A liar. What, I'm stupid?

[B]

You think I'm stupid? Blind? When will people learn that it's never the crime. It's always the COVID Like, both.

[A]

It's all. It is also the crime.

[B]

People are human. Like, okay, you have an addiction, and you fell back into your addiction. Like, how can I be mad? Like, I get it, the lying, when I'm literally watching you. I am watching you smoke, and then I know. Telling me that you're not.

[A]

And then I know you're like. And that's a problem for me. Yeah, that's a problem for me. Because then I can't trust a damn thing you say.

[B]

Abso lutely that's so bad is to

[A]

be a known liar.

[B]

It's actually very true.

[A]

Your word means nothing. Don't do it, you guys. Your word is everything. It's all you have.

[B]

If you don't have your word, like, you have nothing.

[A]

Yeah, my word is important to me.

[B]

And I think that's what makes you, like, quite a nobleman.

[A]

Thank you so much. Like that.

[B]

Correct. Thank you to everybody who wrote in was vulnerable. I'm sorry to tell you that, like, all your husbands are gay. But, like, listen, it's better that you know now.

[A]

Yeah. And just want to say that was such a better. Dear Toaster, it's like, I can.

[B]

Oh, you feel better.

[A]

Oh, my God. I can go enjoy my day. Okay. I am having.

[B]

Maybe. Maybe if there is a dark one, like, I'll always limit it to just one out of the three and I'll make it the.

[A]

Or, like, we could do like, a special edition dark version. Dark version where, like, I can get into the headset. But, like, here we are swirling around. We got that swirlitude.

[B]

And then let's do Dear Toasters after dark on Patreon. I like that.

[A]

Dear Toasters, Special Victims Unit, dtu. Yeah.

[B]

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[A]

Now that chilling. That I can do.

[B]

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[A]

Love ya. Bye.