Podcast Summary: The Toast – With Love Wednesday, March 5th, 2025

Hosted by Claudia Oshry and Jackie Oshry

1. Ruby Frankie Documentary Analysis

Claudia Oshry opens the discussion by expressing her disdain for the "Ruby Frankie" documentary, which delves into the dark saga of Ruby Frankie, a former mommy vlogger whose life spiraled into severe abuse and criminal activities.

• Claudia (00:54): "I met a new woman to hate last night. Her name is Ruby Frankie... I hate this."

The hosts dissect the portrayal of Ruby Frankie, highlighting the evolution from seemingly light abuse on social media to the horrific physical abuse of her youngest children. Claudia criticizes the show for not fully addressing the underlying issues that led to Ruby's descent.

• Claudia (02:28): "It made it seem like... she couldn't have gotten to that place without... every episode is a guest. You and I were like, ugh."

Jackie Oshry questions the impact of the family channel on Ruby’s behavior, suggesting that the platform amplified her abusive tendencies.

• Jackie (01:35): "Well, here's my question. Because she abused her children, right? So why is that, like, a referendum on other people's family channels if, like, this woman is abusive?"

2. Megan’s Cooking Show Critique

Claudia and Jackie shift their focus to Megan’s newly premiered cooking show, "With Love Megan," which has sparked mixed reviews.

Claudia (14:36): "We have started the process of watching, as Claudia said, she watched one episode. I watched four episodes. I've been very excited for this show..."

The hosts critique the lack of structure and personal connection in Megan’s show, pointing out that while some recipes are inspiring, the absence of authentic storytelling and personal anecdotes diminishes its impact.

• Jackie (17:16): "The core issue with this show is that there's no, like, reason for it. Like other shows are Martha Stewart. She is teaching us something. She is an educator."

Claudia suggests that Megan’s tendency to focus on aesthetical elements over substantive content makes the show feel superficial.

• Claudia (19:28): "It's really meant to be, like, part aesthetic. And if you don't look too much into it, like, it's a beautiful woman in a beautiful home doing beautiful things."

3. Jax Taylor’s Admission of Cocaine Addiction

A significant portion of the discussion revolves around Jax Taylor’s recent revelation about his cocaine addiction.

Jackie (38:44): "What's the reason for his divorce. It's the reason for his marital issues. It's the reason, you know, for a lot of different things going wrong in his life."

Jax shares his struggles with addiction on Bravo's "Hot Mic" podcast, highlighting his 83 days of sobriety and the challenges of overcoming substance abuse.

• Jax Taylor (39:25): "This is tough to say. I'm an addict. I have substance issues, primarily with cocaine." (Referenced in discussion)

Claudia expresses sympathy towards Jax, emphasizing the difficulty of his journey and criticizing the lack of support he receives from the public.

• Claudia (40:25): "He was like, doing a lot of Adderall... he apparently didn't give up on it like others did."

4. Gabby Windy’s Secret Marriage

The hosts introduce Gabby Windy, a reality TV star from "The Bachelorette," who recently married her writer and comedian girlfriend, Robbie Hoffman, in a secret Las Vegas ceremony.

• Claudia (43:02): "Gabby and Robbie are forever. She is now a married woman after wedding her writer and comedian girlfriend in a secret ceremony held in January."

Claudia and Jackie celebrate Gabby’s union, noting the authenticity and happiness it brings despite the secrecy surrounding the wedding.

• Claudia (43:32): "They've been dating now for, like, two years, so it's a legit thing."

5. Kristen Cavallari’s Return to Reality TV

Jackie Oshry announces Kristen Cavallari’s new reality series, "Honestly Cavallari: The Tour," which follows her podcast tour.

• Jackie (49:23): "Kristen Cavallari is returning to reality TV with a new E series called Honestly Cavallari the Tour..."

Claudia praises the concept, comparing it to the "SmartLess" podcast, and expresses excitement about Kristen’s return to television.

• Claudia (51:22): "She's had multiple successful reality TV shows. It's her."

6. Real Housewives of Beverly Hills Recap

The discussion shifts to the latest episodes of "Real Housewives of Beverly Hills," which Claudia finds largely unengaging except for moments involving characters like Kathy.

• Claudia (62:05): "Real Housewives of Beverly Hills was probably one of the most pointless episodes of television I've watched."

Jackie adds that Kathy’s antics, such as accidentally walking on the runway, provide some entertainment value amidst an otherwise lackluster episode.

• Jackie (63:27): "She was walking to the back because she obviously thought this was, like, some low budget, loser ass production."

7. Final Thoughts on the Ruby Frankie Documentary

Returning to the "Ruby Frankie" documentary, Claudia provides a detailed breakdown of the family's descent into abuse and Ruby’s manipulation through influence from her business partner, Jody.

• Claudia (66:22): "Ruby Frank and Her business partner, Jody, who both were the abusers, are both serving up to 30 years in prison."

She criticizes the family's naivety and the father's failure to recognize the abuse, highlighting the devastating impact on the children.

• Jackie (73:30): "And the husband isn't in the picture."

Claudia underscores the ongoing custody battles and the uncertain future for the youngest children, advocating for better legal protections.

• Claudia (71:31): "The mom and Jody both went to prison. But what happened to those two kids?"

Concluding Remarks

Claudia and Jackie wrap up the episode by expressing their anticipation for upcoming show recaps, including "Summer House," and encourage listeners to stay tuned for future episodes.

• Claudia (75:43): "That's our show. You guys make sure to come back tomorrow."
• Jackie (75:43): "We've got summer house recap."

Notable Quotes

• Claudia Oshry (00:54): "Ruby Frankie is so awful, and her ugly, bald, fat, stupid husband..."
• Jackie Oshry (17:16): "It's like, can your kid, like, go through a moment by himself?"
• Claudia Oshry (19:28): "It's really meant to be, like, part aesthetic."
• Jackie Oshry (20:11): "A talk show. Yeah. Like, that's actually a good call."
• Claudia Oshry (42:53): "She's trying to make a living while being a mom in Montecito."
• Jackie Oshry (73:30): "Are you ready for our next story?"

This episode of The Toast provided a deep dive into the controversial "Ruby Frankie" documentary, critical analysis of Megan's cooking show, heartfelt discussions on Jax Taylor’s addiction, celebratory news about Gabby Windy’s marriage, and updates on other reality TV personalities. Claudia and Jackie balanced their critiques with empathy and humor, offering listeners a comprehensive overview of current entertainment news.