The Toast Podcast Summary

Episode: Wokechella: Monday, April 13th, 2026
Hosts: Jackie & Claudia Oshry (Dear Media)
Date: April 13, 2026

Overview

This lively post-Coachella Monday episode of The Toast, fondly dubbed "Toastchella" and "Wokechella," finds Jackie and Claudia recapping the weekend’s biggest entertainment news, pop culture dramas, influencer tea, and a touch of space unity. Their signature candid sisterly banter is on full display, from Coachella recap and festival scandals to messy reality TV developments and even a breaking influencer feud.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Weekend & Personal Catch-Up (00:22–08:16)

• Claudia was busy socializing all weekend, exhausting her social battery after family time (02:42).
• Jackie enjoyed a relaxing, cozy weekend at home with her son Maxi, and finally dined at Claudia's favorite Florida restaurant (03:02–03:33).
• Claudia details her outing with her "celebrity mom group," including trying caviar for the first time (04:11–05:42).
• Entertaining tangent about gout and misconceptions around historical diseases (05:42–06:26).
• Book chat: Jackie discusses starting the much-buzzed memoir "Strangers," and Claudia talks about men authors, specifically James Frey (08:29–10:43).
• Brief reflection on the mysterious and whimsical nature of dreams (12:08–14:04).

2. Coachella 2026 Recap: The “Wokechella” Breakdown (19:04–52:45)

2a. Performance Highlights & Scandals

• Sabrina Carpenter:

  • Claudia gushes about Sabrina as a “greatest performer of our time,” describing her set as dynamic, fresh, and full-on spectacle (19:26–20:31).
  • Discussion of the viral "Zagruta gate"—an audience member performed a North African celebratory chant ("zagruta") during Sabrina’s quiet piano moment. Sabrina called it “yodeling” and stopped the show, leading to accusations of cultural insensitivity (20:51–26:40).
  • Both hosts emphasize it was likely a misunderstanding, dissect Sabrina’s apology (“Could have handled it better. Now I know what a zagruta is… I welcome all cheers and yodels from here on out.” – Sabrina Carpenter, 23:15), and debate the complexities of woke and cancel culture.

• Justin Bieber vs. Sabrina – The Male vs. Female Pop Star Double Standard:

  • Bieber’s lower-energy show (including a 20-minute segment “watching YouTube videos on stage”) is contrasted with Sabrina’s high-effort performance (31:26–35:44).
  • “The level of expectation from the audience… for our male pop stars vs. our female pop stars, the level of critique we give to the women versus the men, it’s actually insane.” – Claude, 32:19

• Other Performances:

  • Teddy Swims praised for bringing out Joe Jonas and Vanessa Carlton; suggestion he should headline (45:43).
  • Carol G mentioned, but noted as under-covered.

2b. Influencer/Brand Drama

• The Starbucks Creator House Blowup (39:33–44:52):

  • Starbucks’ influencer house at Coachella causes major backlash among “wokey” TikTok factions over rumors of Starbucks being “Zionist,” which Claudia debunks (“The entire boycott… is actually based on delusional conspiracy theories…” – Claude, 44:30).
  • Notable creators called out: Audrey Peters, Victoria Paris, Bran, and the Umanskys.
  • Discussion of hypocrisy and the newly fraught landscape of brand deals for politically vocal influencers:
    • “If you are a tiktoker who makes a lot of political posts… your people are going to come for you. And honestly, I stand with them… but the girl who makes videos about Hermès Kellys? Like, are you serious?” – Claude, 41:46

• Influencer FOMO, Brand Activations, and Coachella as a Fashion Event:

  • Claudia and Jackie admit they see Coachella mostly through influencer eyes these days.
  • Brands like Revolve, Camp Poosh, Barbie held events/houses; Jackie ponders what’s actually being sold besides vibes (39:45, 39:54, 39:14).

2c. Fashion & Social Trends from Coachella

• Trends: “Big low rise pants and a bikini top for a shirt.” – Claude, 48:29
• Noted a return to “OG Coachella” bohemian—flowy skirts, Vanessa Hudgens vibes (49:00–49:11).
• Instagram’s influencer landscape has aged; TikTok is the new pipeline for festival content (49:45–50:09).

2d. Celebrity Sightings & Gossip

• Kendall Jenner & Jacob Elordi seen making out (37:47); speculation that this is an uninspired match but amusing.
• Kylie Jenner’s girls’ trip, possible Timothy Chalamet sighting, and Bieber fandom discussed (52:00).

3. Reality TV Tea: Summer House & Bravo Updates (52:45–58:28)

• Amanda Batula responds to backlash over her romance with West Wilson, apologizing to hurt parties and asking for privacy as she resumes daily life (53:48).

  • Claudia and Jackie dissect the “weird” tone of Amanda's statement, speculate on West’s feelings (“He’s in a pickle… he likes being beloved.” – Claude, 55:32), and predict a messy, emotionally taxing reunion.

• Real Housewives of Beverly Hills drama:

  • Rachel Zoe’s ex-husband’s new girlfriend Bri Jacoby posts a fiery Instagram story slamming Rachel for allegedly acting jealous and being nasty (64:49–69:17).
  • Quote: “See ya at the bar mitzvah. Oh, that made me sick.” – Jackie, 64:49
  • Hosts side with Rachel on needing space and respect in blended families.

4. Sports Headlines: The Masters (69:19–76:17)

• Rory McIlroy wins the Masters; Claudia admits an irrational dislike for Rory (“He gives off bad vibes. It’s all based on vibes.” – Claude, 73:53).
• Recap of postgame narratives:
  • Rory’s awkward family celebration; drama about access to Augusta; contrast between his public stance on LIV golf and reality.
  • Broader question about who are the “heroes” in sports and how much personal liking (or disliking) of athletes factors in fandom.

5. Fast 5 Final Story: NASA’s Artemis 2 Returns (76:20–81:08)

• Artemis 2 astronauts return after a historic moon mission, receiving a hero’s welcome (76:49–78:34).
• Hosts reflect emotionally on the impact of space achievement as a message of unity for civilization:
  • “When you’re up there, we are one. When we’re down here, it’s like… all this stuff. But when you’re up there, we are one.” – Jackie, 77:21
  • Claudia quotes a female astronaut: “I wasn’t even looking so much at Earth. I was looking at all the blackness around it. All we have is each other.” (78:07)
  • They stress the need for more public focus on science role models and the beauty of the “one human race” viewpoint.

6. Breaking News: Alex Cooper vs. Alex Earl Feud (82:19–88:29)

• In a last-minute segment, the hosts react live to Alex Cooper’s public TikTok call-out of Alex Earl, demanding she state her issues directly:
  • “The passive aggressive reposts and the likes and the commenting on things… you’re gonna need to get specific and just say what you gotta say about me. There’s no NDA. No one is stopping you.” – Alex Cooper, 82:40–83:40
• Jackie and Claudia call Cooper’s approach “masterful” and note it “puts all of the onus on Alex Earl” (84:33–85:10).
• They speculate on the fallout, pressuring Alex Earl to respond with something “really crazy” or risk losing the narrative (86:44–88:16).
• Anticipation for what’s next: “Balls in Alex Earl’s court. And unfortunately for her, she has to take a shot, and she cannot miss.” – Jackie, 88:16

Notable Quotes & Moments (with Timestamps)

• “Letting a man control you is grossly underrated… Now Ben does a lot of things, and I feel like I’m actually doing less. And it’s such a genuine pleasure to be a kept woman…” – Claude, 01:45–02:26
• “Caviar is good. That’s fine.” – Jackie, 05:29
• “It’s the only part of the human experience—it’s like, genuinely… you connect with alternate universes and those who have passed away, all through your dreams.” – Claude, 13:16
• “The level of critique we give to the women versus the men, like, it’s actually insane… Just compared, these two things happening back to back—Friday and Saturday—the difference was so palpable, it was shocking.” – Claude, 32:19
• “Starbucks is a no-go… if you’re like a wokey TikToker and you have Starbucks in your video, the comments will be about it, you know?” – Claude, 40:13
• “If you engage in that sort of cult… if you are a TikToker who makes a lot of political posts, your people are going to come for you… but the girl who makes videos about Hermès Kellys? Are you serious?” – Claude, 41:46
• “See ya at the bar mitzvah. Oh, that made me sick.” – Jackie, 64:49
• “When you’re up there, we are one.” – Jackie, 77:21
• “Balls in Alex Earl’s court. And unfortunately for her, she has to take a shot, and she cannot miss.” – Jackie, 88:16

Additional Timestamps for Key Segments

• Coachella Performance Recap: 19:04–27:02
• Sabrina/Zagruta Controversy: 20:51–27:01
• Influencer Brand House Scandal: 39:33–44:52
• Fashion Trends: 48:27–49:16
• Kendall & Jacob Elordi Sighting: 37:47
• Amanda & West Summer House Drama: 52:45–58:28
• Rachel Zoe/RHOBH Family Drama: 62:55–69:17
• The Masters Recap: 69:19–76:17
• Artemis 2/Moon Launch and Message: 76:20–81:08
• Alex Cooper/Alex Earl Feud: 82:19–88:29

Tone & Style

The episode is classic Toast: sharp, irreverent, self-deprecating, and thoroughly plugged into both influencer culture and Bravo TV. Jackie and Claudia balance pointed cultural commentary with playful sibling ribbing and plenty of empathy for those caught up in the week’s scandals. Their nuanced yet comedic approach to topics like “cancel culture,” influencer hypocrisy, and the search for unity in divisive times keeps the content relatable and lively.

TL;DR

"Wokechella" delivers a whirlwind tour of Coachella 2026 and its ensuing controversies, from Sabrina Carpenter’s cultural blunder to justice for caviar bugles, influencer house drama, the never-ending pop star double standard, and the ripple effects of reality TV betrayals. Jackie and Claudia dissect both viral online beefs and cosmic messages of unity backdropped by the Artemis 2 astronauts’ return. The surprise Alex Cooper vs. Alex Earl showdown ensures the pop culture tea will keep simmering until next time.