You Try Bein' a TV Recapper For A Day: Monday, March 10th, 2025

Summary

Podcast Summary: The Toast – "You Try Bein' a TV Recapper For A Day: Monday, March 10th, 2025"

In the March 10, 2025 episode of The Toast, hosts Jackie and Claudia Oshry delve into a variety of topics ranging from personal updates to their candid takes on popular television shows. Skipping over the advertisement segments, the episode is segmented into several key discussions, each enriched with insightful commentary and humorous exchanges between the sisters.

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Personal Updates and Pregnancy Experiences

Claudia begins by sharing her recent battle with illness during pregnancy, humorously attributing her sickness to her husband Ben, which leads to playful banter between the hosts.

Claudia Oshry [02:19]:
"But not like he made it seem like I told him to shut up in regards to Friday's episode."

Jackie empathetically responds to Claudia's struggles, highlighting the challenges of pregnancy and the importance of support.

Jackie Oshry [03:03]:
"Own up to that. And annoying himself the weenie of the week for doing."

Claudia further elaborates on her newfound appreciation for pregnancy essentials, such as the pregnancy pillow, sharing her initial skepticism and eventual embrace of its benefits.

Claudia Oshry [05:35]:
"It was so wrong. I don't know why it took me so long to get one. Like, all the pregnant girls were like, just get it."

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Television Show Recaps and Critiques

Desperate Housewives and Love is Blind

The sisters transition into discussing their favorite TV shows, notably Desperate Housewives and Love is Blind. They express mixed feelings, with Claudia critiquing the final season of Desperate Housewives for losing her interest due to convoluted storylines and questionable character decisions.

Claudia Oshry [11:01]:
"I'm at the final season of Desperate Housewives and it's really bad."

Jackie shares her continued interest in Love is Blind, albeit expressing frustration with the show's reunion episode for its perceived lack of authenticity and excessive drama.

Jackie Oshry [12:45]:
"I really wish that they had worked out, but Meg totally had his back."

Claudia vehemently criticizes the reunion, lamenting the disingenuous interactions and lack of genuine closure for the couples involved.

Claudia Oshry [58:40]:
"I hate every single one of these people. Yeah, I hate every single one of these people."

White Lotus

Both hosts touch upon White Lotus, with Claudia finding little to engage with beyond specific character developments, while Jackie appreciates certain performances and character arcs.

Claudia Oshry [76:56]:
"Nothing happened. I was so bored."

Jackie Oshry [77:35]:
"My favorite character. And... now I've learned more about him as, like, a person in real life."

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Celebrity News and Recurring Rumors

Luke Combs on Mental Health

A significant portion of the episode is dedicated to discussing Luke Combs' revelation about his battle with a rare form of obsessive-compulsive disorder (OCD). The sisters commend his openness and emphasize the importance of mental health awareness.

Jackie Oshry [38:26]:
"He explained the tedious and debilitating condition."

Claudia underscores the rarity of male country stars discussing mental health, praising Combs for his courage.

Claudia Oshry [39:56]:
"So, that was no different. We don't report on... So I love these little windows into Luki."

Olivia Culpo's Pregnancy Announcement

Towards the episode's end, Olivia Culpo's pregnancy is announced, eliciting celebratory responses from the hosts. They reflect on Olivia's journey and express heartfelt congratulations.

Claudia Oshry [53:19]:
"I need you to go see this."

Jackie Oshry [54:03]:
"So happy for her. I like her so much."

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Final Thoughts and TV Recap Challenges

As the episode winds down, Jackie and Claudia reflect on the complexities of being TV recappers, especially when faced with shows that don't meet their expectations. They humorously acknowledge the difficulty of condensing extensive TV content into their fast-paced format, highlighting the frustrations of engaging with shows that lack compelling narratives or authentic character development.

Jackie Oshry [84:17]:
"I watched over two hours of content for eight minutes of interesting. That's why it's hard to do what we do."

Claudia concurs, expressing her disdain for certain TV seasons while appreciating specific moments that stood out.

Claudia Oshry [83:58]:
"They did a good job of making the trailer look like it was going to be interesting. Oh, my God. Biggest waste of my time."

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Conclusion

Throughout the episode, Jackie and Claudia Oshry offer a blend of personal anecdotes, critical TV analysis, and commentary on celebrity news, all delivered with their trademark humor and sisterly chemistry. Their candid discussions provide listeners with entertaining insights, whether they're fans of the shows being discussed or tuning in for the hosts' relatable perspectives.

Notable Quotes:

• Claudia Oshry [05:35]:
  "I just want to get out of the way by using the pastime pillow. I'm so dumb."

• Jackie Oshry [12:45]:
  "I wish them a lifetime of happiness."

• Claudia Oshry [58:40]:
  "I hate every single one of these people."

• Jackie Oshry [38:26]:
  "He explained the tedious and debilitating condition."

This episode of The Toast encapsulates the dynamic interplay between Jackie and Claudia Oshry as they navigate through personal stories and their takes on the ever-evolving landscape of television and celebrity culture.

Transcript

[Claudia Oshry]

Good morning, girlies. It's the Toast. It's Jackson Claude and we're your host. It's your favorite show, the Fast 5 things you need to know. We'll start your day off Swirly. It's the Toast.

[Jackie Oshry]

They sound amazing.

[Claudia Oshry]

Welcome back to. Oh, man. Not my hands.

[Jackie Oshry]

They're just hands.

[Claudia Oshry]

Welcome back to the Toast. Happy Monday. Oh, my God, the bitch is back. Yeah, that's right. School's in session. Ms. Trunchable has returned. Everybody back to 4 minute and 30 second ad breaks. Back to basics, bitch. Okay.

[Jackie Oshry]

It's so true. Back to the embargo of with love, Megan. Back to standard ad reads that are in 15 minutes.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah, sorry about that, guys. I left school for one day and the substitute teachers took over. And nice to know what goes on behind the scenes without me. And it's nice to know, like, how integral I am to getting this show up and off the ground. The kids were wild and out. I was first of all editing the episode. So I'm watching you two slander my. My rules and my good name. Everybody's like, and then I posted, oh, we need more Ben. We love.

[Jackie Oshry]

I mean, that's just par for the course. Whenever there's a guest co host, it's like, he should do it every day. Well, then one of us is out of the job.

[Claudia Oshry]

What are you saying?

[Jackie Oshry]

Like, that's just impossible. But I'm glad you guys like the episode. We had a lot of fun. I hadn't podcasted with one Delicious in a while, so we had a lot to catch up on. And there were a lot of good, like, topics for us to chat on, especially because food has really been in the news and he is kind of the voice you want to hear from when talking about food.

[Claudia Oshry]

I do want to clarify just, like, one thing my husband said, which, you know, your husband goes on a podcast and talks, and you only have one clarification. I think he did a very good job. I never said he couldn't talk about the frames. It's not like I was sick Friday morning, I'm like, I need you to fill in for me. Don't talk about the frames. That's not at all what happened. When we were building this set. Ben was obviously, like, coming with me, and I was showing him pictures of the progress, and he was like, do you feel like the frames are a little. And he started to say stuff and I'm like, shut up. Shut up. That's when I told him he couldn't say anything about the.

[Jackie Oshry]

His publicist told him not to comment on it. It's that his wife told him to shut up.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah. But not like he made it seem like I told him to shut up in regards to Friday's episode.

[Jackie Oshry]

Got it.

[Claudia Oshry]

No, no.

[Jackie Oshry]

Okay. Thank you for.

[Claudia Oshry]

He's working off of old information.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah. Thank you for that. No, it was a jolly good time. I also feel like, selfishly, he wanted no frames because that way he could use the studio more and it not be so girly. Like, he could use it for good. Guys, if there were no frames, we just look like any old podcast studio. That's the point.

[Claudia Oshry]

Right? That's what. That kind of sets us apart.

[Jackie Oshry]

That's why we have our frames in which to frame ourselves and frame the narrative.

[Claudia Oshry]

We need to reframe the energy we do.

[Jackie Oshry]

So I feel like he was coming from a selfish place of making it more gender neutral.

[Claudia Oshry]

I could definitely see that being the reality. Speaking of selfish, he got me sick. I wasn't here on Friday, you guys. I'm back. I'm so much better.

[Jackie Oshry]

Own up to that. And annoying himself the weenie of the week for doing.

[Claudia Oshry]

I saw. That was very sweet. And let me tell you, because, like, when he went off to work, I was so mad. Like, I. You know, I hate.

[Jackie Oshry]

Like, he did it on purpose to you, sir.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah, yeah. Because I first. Nobody likes being sick, but, oh, my God, this is my first time being sick pregnant. Like, I. If you would have told me, like, the biggest physical pain I would have from being like flu, like, with the. With pregnancy would be the pain in my knees. Like, you feel it differently. Like, it was so crazy. It was really, really bad. So when he went off, I was so mad. I'm like, he didn't take the cough seriously. He didn't leave the marital bed. And then I'm editing the episode and I'm like, oh, I wonder who his queenie was. Because I told him to prepare one and it was, like, so sweet.

[Jackie Oshry]

So it was. He phoned it in.

[Claudia Oshry]

It was strategic. It was strategic. I'm like, I am a warrior. Yes.

[Jackie Oshry]

He was the weenie for getting you sick, which at least he copped you. How are you feeling, by the way?

[Claudia Oshry]

So much better. It's one of those days where, first of all, it's 60 degrees outside. I'm feeling the birds are to the Lord.

[Jackie Oshry]

The turns aren't hurting.

[Claudia Oshry]

Actually, my knee still does hurt from when I collapse in the bathroom. In the bed. In the bed bathroom encounter. But, yeah, I am feeling. I still can't really breathe out of one of my nostrils, but I'm not. I'm choosing not to reflect on that. I'm feeling so joyful, so positive, so.

[Jackie Oshry]

Grateful for my soul that you can breathe out of, you know?

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah, yeah. Oh, and I know, like, I'm about to say something that everybody's gonna be like, yeah, Turdi, we've been telling you forever. But, you know, I come to things late, and I thought I was past this. I really thought I was. I thought I was past, like, my stubbornness and, like, not believing things are good. Like, on Friday night, Friday day, I just sort of a. Thursday, Friday day, I. Something arrived from Amazon.

[Jackie Oshry]

Spring summer joggers.

[Claudia Oshry]

Thursday, Friday day, I just decided. I don't know why I've been so. I'll tell you, just. It's kind of like the big spoiler. Okay. I don't know why I've been, like, so against a traditional pregnancy pillow. I think I blame Olivia Ashray, if I'm being honest, because when I was at your house, I was like, maybe I need a pregnancy pillow. Olivia was like, oh, I have one. Use mine. I'm like, oh, great. When of the worst night's sleep of my life. I don't know where she got this enormous thing. And I was like, pregnancy pills are a myth and everybody overhypes it. So then a couple of weeks ago, I was like, you know, let me try out. I got, like, a fancy 60 weighted body pillow, and it was fine. And then, like, it got worse and worse, and now I don't even sleep with it. So you know what? Let me just get some from China and, like, see, like, what the OG pregnancy pillow is all about.

[Jackie Oshry]

You know, like, Amazon number one bestseller pregnancy.

[Claudia Oshry]

Amazon number one bestseller. Like, came straight from China. Like, smelled horrible. Okay. I threw it in the wash. I am coming off of three of the best night sleeps of my life. Like, pregnancy pillows are amazing. I was so wrong. I don't know why it took me so long to get one. Like, all the pregnant girls were like, just get it.

[Jackie Oshry]

Like, no, it doesn't make you any less of a woman to have. I know. Like, it doesn't.

[Claudia Oshry]

Do you know? You know what it is? My own sweeper. Like, O.C. i got in the way.

[Jackie Oshry]

I don't think to have.

[Claudia Oshry]

And I don't want it. Like, it's ugly in my room when I make my bed, my bed doesn't look beautiful. Beautiful anymore. This. It's green. Like, it's big and green. And so I was like, you know what? I'm not taking on the burden of this pregnancy pillow. I'm so dumb. I'm always in my own way.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah, I feel like that's gonna continue well to happen just in general, but also, like, to trend, even your attitude towards, like, stuff for the baby where you're like, I don't want over consumption.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah.

[Jackie Oshry]

Get the things. The things.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah. Yeah, the things. Let the pregnancy pillow be a lesson.

[Jackie Oshry]

Let it be. Will it be no.

[Claudia Oshry]

So that really was helpful in my recovery. I was just, like, sleeping a lot this weekend. Me and this pillow that I have just come to love. To love. I watched so much tv. So much that we're gonna recap. I'm all caught up on White Lotus. I watched a Love is Blind reunion begrudgingly this morning. So much Desperate Housewives were consumed. Like, I didn't get out of bed the whole weekend. It was amazing.

[Jackie Oshry]

Oh, that's so nice. I caught up on White Lotus. We'll recap that. I need you to recap Love is Blind for me because I've given up and now I'm done. Like, I'm out of the rat race. And. Yeah, I'll hear it from you. Plus, our fifth and final story will lead into the TV recap. And I watched a little bit of New Kardashians. Very common. Yeah, you know me. I'm a creature of habit. Like, I'm some. I don't go with the trends. Like, just. We all stopped watching. Like, not me. I'm still here. There was so much Kylie. It was fantastic Kylie. Best part of the episode, I just want to say, was Chloe and Scott interviewing a new assistant for Scott. I was laughing so hard. I could have a whole reality. They should do a show like the Apprentice where they try and find the next best assistant.

[Claudia Oshry]

Did you ever watch hbo, Max's original show, the Big Shot with Bethany?

[Jackie Oshry]

Of course I did. Do you? Was that a rhetorical question? Like, we recapped it ad nauseam.

[Claudia Oshry]

You did?

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah, we talked about it all the time.

[Claudia Oshry]

Well, I watched it with Brian.

[Jackie Oshry]

Watched, like, the first episode, and we talked about that.

[Claudia Oshry]

Okay. I watched it with Brian. We were obsessed with it. It was the dumbest show. Like, Bethenny Frankel was hiring, not an assistant, but, like, something like that. And it was. They made it like an apprentice. Like, they had all these challenges, and it was so stupid. And it was the best show I've ever seen in my life. We need more shows like that, like, casting for, like, dumbass jobs. Like, that would be a great show, actually, Courtney. I mean, Chloe and Scott.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah. Trying to find his next great assistant. It was really, really funny. So that's what I did. And then also shout out to the mamas because daylight savings threw us through a loop, did it not? It threw me through a loop too. Is just like a person who lost an hour of their weekend. Like this weekend we had less weekend than every other weekend. Do you know that?

[Claudia Oshry]

I do know that. And shout out to the mamas like I know with the kids sleep schedule like it's horrible, but shout out to the girls who were recovering from the flu and got a new pregnancy pillow and thought that the pregnancy pillow was like so magical. Cuz I Woke up at 8:30 and I was like, Ben, it's the pillow. We couldn't get over it. I've been waking up at 6am I'm like, we slept till 8:30. You would have thought I slept till noon the way I was acting. It wasn't until a full 24 hours later that I was like, wait, did I sleep till 8:30? I had no idea it was daylight savings.

[Jackie Oshry]

At least you slept till 7:30. If you usually wake up at 6, it's something.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yes.

[Jackie Oshry]

Charlie slept till 8:30 this morning, which is technically 7:30. But then last night I put them down like at the new bedtime. So he actually did get an extra hour of sleep. But it's all very confusing.

[Claudia Oshry]

But last night was the first night, like I didn't have to close my blinds at 4pm yeah, we got to.

[Jackie Oshry]

Play outside after dinner. And I'm hopeful that this year will be the year where we don't change the clocks again. Like this is how it should be all the time. You know, every year there's bipartisan effort to stop.

[Claudia Oshry]

There's lots of talk.

[Jackie Oshry]

This could be the year, Trudy. This could be the last time that I'm so utterly confused. Except of course they're going to take away the one where we get more sleep.

[Claudia Oshry]

I just want to say I saw a clip of the someone asking the President about it and he didn't seem convinced that it was the right move. He said, I'm still thinking about it, like for real.

[Jackie Oshry]

Okay.

[Claudia Oshry]

He said, I've been hearing like conflicting.

[Jackie Oshry]

Let's see how he felt after last night.

[Claudia Oshry]

Right. Maybe he wakes up with like a little bed. Yeah, enough if he feels refreshed or if he feels like this is the.

[Jackie Oshry]

One where you wake up feeling refreshed. It's great for your life and your quality of life. And seasonal depression, like it's good for all of that. But day of is a hard day. The other one is a nice day. But you're in for months of sadness.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah. I can't believe the months of sadness are over. Like, that was really just. It's just a crazy time. We made it. Like, it's so.

[Jackie Oshry]

It's also.

[Claudia Oshry]

It's important to acknowledge the space I had.

[Jackie Oshry]

I really had adjusted to, like, the darkness. We were in a good schedule, a good routine.

[Claudia Oshry]

Like, you let it wash over.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah, it was just like, dinner, bath, bed, because there's no more sunshine and, like.

[Claudia Oshry]

Right.

[Jackie Oshry]

It was fine, you know, and so like, they just give it to us to take it away again.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah. I don't really plan on changing much about my life. I remarked at 5 o'clock that the windows, like, were still bright. And then I put the blinds down. Same, you know, new time, same me.

[Jackie Oshry]

But don't you like to watch the sunset or watch the sky slowly? Wind.

[Claudia Oshry]

I do, actually, but we were watching Desperate Housewives and the glare was starting to bother me, so.

[Jackie Oshry]

Desperate Housewives. Greater than God's gift.

[Claudia Oshry]

I'm at the final season of Desperate Housewives and it's really bad. Like, there is actually. And you're gonna remember this. So, you know, at the end of season seven, all the women bury a body together. And season eight is like the fallout of that. They all have so much guilt. The police are, like, chasing them. They're trying to, like, maneuver. And Susan is obviously the one who can handle it the least. And she's, like, crippling, and she's taking an art class to get through it. And the. The artist teacher is like, paint your deepest dark. And she literally paints the four women in the forest burying a body like it's. It's. It's an actual admission of guilt. And then they. They like, show it at an art show. And the women are like, are you dumb? Like, seriously, are you dumb? The police are literally telling us you. It's like a series of paintings where it's like, what, we killed him with a candlestick? Like, she tells. And then they all start fighting, and they're not even fighting about Susan being so stupid.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah.

[Claudia Oshry]

This is where the show officially lost me under, so.

[Jackie Oshry]

Well, that's good, because you won't be sad when it's over.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah, and I do with it. We have big plans to watch Friday Night Lights. Although Ben wants to start Desperate Housewives over again. You think I like Desperate Housewives?

[Jackie Oshry]

Well, no guys talking about it on the. When he was here, he'll come home.

[Claudia Oshry]

From work, he'll be like dh that's what he calls it. And I'm like. He's like, dh I'm like, no. Like, he is obsessed. He, like, kind of makes me hate it. Do you know what I mean?

[Jackie Oshry]

It's like Ben show. You're watching for him now a thousand percent. When you guys split up into different rooms, which you must do after everything that's happened.

[Claudia Oshry]

Any day now. Yeah.

[Jackie Oshry]

Like, I'm sorry, we all have to separate the two of you.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah.

[Jackie Oshry]

Then in his room, he can watch DH and, like, you can watch fml.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah. Yeah. But we did eventually have to turn it off to watch White Lotus and Love is Blind, so it was fine.

[Jackie Oshry]

White Lotus. Yes. My Sunday evening. I'll never get back.

[Claudia Oshry]

Here's the thing.

[Jackie Oshry]

And I already had one less hour.

[Claudia Oshry]

We'll do an official TV recap.

[Jackie Oshry]

I have one more hour.

[Claudia Oshry]

We're going to do an official TV recap, but as it pertains to. To White Lotus, I'm just gonna say the thing that you're not supposed to say. Right. The show is bad and I am bored. And then people are like, well, you just don't get it. It's character to shut the up. I'm turning on my TV to be entertained. Like, right. If it need. If it has such, like, subtext plot, shut up. It's bad and I'm bored.

[Jackie Oshry]

If I didn't get something, I would say I'm confused. Right. There's nothing not to get there.

[Claudia Oshry]

I'm following.

[Jackie Oshry]

There's not that much dialogue. It's very slow moving. Like, it's not missing me. There's not that much to get. I feel the same way that I felt when I watched season one, which is why I didn't watch season two, where it's like, I'm happy for this show. People really like it. They have a nice concept, the hotels, the funny characters. But everyone makes more of this show than it is. It's not much more than what you see. They act like it's genius. Mike Lotus, whatever his name is. Mike White. Oh, what a genius. It's not genius at all. It's just like people on vacation and everyone just makes such a big deal of it. And that also makes it worse because it doesn't live up to that expectation.

[Claudia Oshry]

That's a very good point. It's just a show, and it's not.

[Jackie Oshry]

It's good compared to the fact that there aren't a lot of good shows and it's a good premise and it's regenerative and. But when you're and when you look back on it, like, when I think of season one, I'm like, oh, that was like, so funny. They're in Hawaii and the pineapple guy and Sydney Sweeney and someone dies in the Duty. Haha. But now I remember what it's like to actually watch it. And those are.

[Claudia Oshry]

Participate.

[Jackie Oshry]

Those are like, really the only things that happened because not a lot happens because they're just like making a meal of this because they're taking themselves so seriously. Like every actor who's like, I got White Lotus, like, it's, it's, it's a cool job because we've made it that way. But like, it's not Game of Thrones. Okay.

[Claudia Oshry]

No. And we need to like, just start treating it like for what it is.

[Jackie Oshry]

Okay.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah. And I really can't with people psychoanalyzing. And my least favorite thing in today's day and age is like, when you don't like something people say you just didn't get it. And it's like, no, no, I can get it and still dislike it. Like, that's how I felt about the bear. Well, you obviously didn't get it. You don't work in food service. And it's like, well, if a show requires me to have a certain job, then the show isn't good, first of all. Second of all, like, I got it. I didn't like the show. It gave me anxiety.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah. No, that's like not a legitimate.

[Claudia Oshry]

I just hate when people say that. Yeah.

[Jackie Oshry]

Except if you don't like this show, it's because you don't get it.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah. And you're dumb and ugly. Money. You'll go back like, and like, shave your back. Okay. You can go shave your back now. Okay.

[Jackie Oshry]

But I do think there are things like that I could watch that I could be like, I don't get it, you know?

[Claudia Oshry]

Yes.

[Jackie Oshry]

And I think if I watch, I'm not too big to say that.

[Claudia Oshry]

I think when I start. When I thought about watching Shogun, it was giving the vibe that I wouldn't get.

[Jackie Oshry]

Just.

[Claudia Oshry]

And that's okay. I can't get everything. But I'm just saying I also sometimes don't like things that I do get.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah. Two things can be true.

[Claudia Oshry]

Letter de Lou I love and hey, you.

[Jackie Oshry]

That's me.

[Claudia Oshry]

So we have a lot to do today because it's a Monday. Just like General Catchings Ups. Love is blind and. Yeah. I don't want to spoil my thoughts.

[Jackie Oshry]

Okay. Let's save them. Without further ado to do. It's Time for the Fast5 stories you need to know you do.

[Claudia Oshry]

I think we should add a little shimmy. When you do the do it again.

[Jackie Oshry]

The Fast 5 stories you need to know you do. Like Ariana Grande showing Julianne up how she dances.

[Claudia Oshry]

It felt strong. Did it look strong?

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah, it looked really.

[Claudia Oshry]

I feel like my shoulders were going one way and my breasts were going another.

[Jackie Oshry]

Like I wasn't watching that closely. But we'll get the.

[Claudia Oshry]

Oh, well, that's rude.

[Jackie Oshry]

We'll get the replay.

[Claudia Oshry]

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[Jackie Oshry]

Thank you Little Turt.

[Claudia Oshry]

You're welcome.

[Jackie Oshry]

Our big Jersey story, another simple favor. So simple favor sequel premiered at south by Southwest this weekend. And honestly, I don't know what it was like on the ground, but it looks like a disaster to me.

[Claudia Oshry]

I completely agree. I think it was really like, it was disgusting. I think Blake Lively is a dirty whore. I can't believe she put on a dress and went to work. I think she's a disgrace to women and to humanity, and I think she should die.

[Jackie Oshry]

Oh, well, I was more so talking about the feud rumors between Blake and Anna Kendrick, and I'm talking about the.

[Claudia Oshry]

Response to Blake Lively leaving her house. Like, I know that this is a complex situation. Everybody has their takes the. The lawsuit. But, like, seriously, the woman didn't do anything. She went to work. Yeah.

[Jackie Oshry]

That's ridiculous. That's like.

[Claudia Oshry]

Like, she took her jacket off and they're like, this costume change is so egregious when there are women fighting for their life.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah. No, she took her jacket off. But Anna Kendrick and Blake Lively, the two stars of a Symbol Favor. There had been, like, rumors about them forever, and then the premiere didn't do anything to dispel those rumors. Anna Kendrick has such, like, an quirky sense of humor that it's hard to know when she's, like, being funny or sarcastic. And so she's asked about the Blake stuff, and she kind of is keeping mums the word because what else can she do? It's all very complicated. And I'm sure she wants nothing to do with it, but it also sort of looks like she hates Blake. Paul Feig weighed in and said that.

[Claudia Oshry]

That's also like, I feel like a complication in the whole thing is that one of the very few, like, public allies of Blake Lively is this director, Paul Feig. So he's at the event too. He's speaking on behalf. And so if Anna and Blake, like, really hate each other, there's definitely an imbalance in the workplace because Paul and Blake are thick as thieves.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah. And he, like, people were, you know, chiming in saying Anna hates Blake and is scared of Blake. And he responded to someone saying, you are wrong. So he's maintaining that this is, like, they're good. I don't think they're that good.

[Claudia Oshry]

I don't know. Before Blake was like a, you know, America's most Wanted. There have been, like, theories that this was, like, the most toxic set ever. These two would not even look at each other, refused to do press together. And this was way before anybody had anything bad ever to say about Blake Lively. It's like, if you've been paying attention, there's definitely weirdness in. And the fact that they decided to make a sequel when there was clearly such bad vibes and the movie, like, wasn't even successful. I. I don't understand.

[Jackie Oshry]

No. And if Blake and Paul are so close and they wanted to make a sequel and the two leads, like, don't get along, they could have done it without her. I don't know if it's based on a book that needs both of them, if the book also has a sequel and, you know, not to, like, get. Make Anna Kendrick, like, out of a job, but I know I could also have seen that happening. So the fact that she. Everyone signed back up says, like, yeah. And it sounds like it was, like, a huge blockbuster. It's like, how could it sound like Twilight?

[Claudia Oshry]

Like, oh, you could pass on it easily.

[Jackie Oshry]

Rob will work together.

[Claudia Oshry]

Even though I don't know if Anna Kendrick is, like, getting offered so many roles these days, you know?

[Jackie Oshry]

Ah. Yeah. I don't know. I feel like people really love her. Like.

[Claudia Oshry]

No, I think it's the opposite. I think people really don't.

[Jackie Oshry]

Like, I think she's someone who, like, people have made it their personality to dislike. But, like, when she's in, like, everything she's in is really successful.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah. I mean, Pitch Perfect is one of the best movies of our time.

[Jackie Oshry]

Twilight.

[Claudia Oshry]

Oh, my God. Even though she's, like, such an irrelevant ugly in Twilight.

[Jackie Oshry]

No, I know, but she's actually everything.

[Claudia Oshry]

She's such a jealous wench.

[Jackie Oshry]

She's very successful. I feel like she's a safe cast.

[Claudia Oshry]

I think you make a good point that, like, nobody would have agreed to do this movie if it was as toxic as, like, the rumors have made it up to be. Because it wasn't this movie that demanded a sequel. Like, there was a small following of the niche cult following. But beyond that, it wasn't a movie that really required a second film. So, like, maybe these three loved working together. That's what it sounds like. Yeah.

[Jackie Oshry]

They wanted more.

[Claudia Oshry]

Right. And so I think A lot of people are taking clips from this weekend and really making more of it than it is. Like, there's definitely something there, but I don't think anything is an admission. Like, Anna Kendrick is weird. So when her weird responses to. Also, I'm sure they've been briefed, like, not to speak on Blake Lively. It's like, an ongoing legal matter.

[Jackie Oshry]

They have to be briefed. Nobody wants to. To step into this mess.

[Claudia Oshry]

Correct. So I don't think that these videos and these responses of Anna are, like, that telling.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah. But I just feel like if Anna had her back and Anna loved her and Anna believed, like, like, they would be arm in arm.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah.

[Jackie Oshry]

Cynthia and Ariana. Nothing also between us, if these two.

[Claudia Oshry]

Hated each other as much as we've been led to believe that they did. And now Blake Lively is the most hated woman in America, and they're doing a press tour together. You just know Anna Kendrick, if that was the truth, would be, like, living for it and, like, leaning in and giving the people.

[Jackie Oshry]

So she didn't do that. E interrupt your enemy when they're making a mistake. There's what.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah.

[Jackie Oshry]

What does she need to do more than what's already happening.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah. I don't think that this is, like, the most amazing, copacetic working relationship of all time. I do think maybe some of the rumors have been blown out of proportion a little bit, but there's definitely something there.

[Jackie Oshry]

There's definitely something there. I hope they keep the premieres to a minimum, because this is uncomfortable.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah. It was, like. And I actually felt genuine pain for Blake. Like, she's trying so hard to combat, like, the mean girl. That's, like. That's what I think. One of the biggest, most valid criticisms about her from all this is, like, seeing the way over the years she's, like, interacted with fans and people is just, like, rude and bitchy. So to see her, like, go out into the throngs of fans and being like, oh, my God, hi. Like, pretending she knows who you are. I just know that was really hard for her because it goes against her natural instinct to be, like, a big bitch. And I felt bad for her because it was like, truly eating humble pie. It's like when Regine George put the back brace on, you know?

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah. Yeah. I feel like she doesn't need to do all that. Just be a. Like.

[Claudia Oshry]

No. And, like, the fact that she's being so nice and she's never been this nicely. She's kind of, like, validating the room.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah, exactly. She's like, Let me take a selfie. Like, you don't want to take a selfie.

[Claudia Oshry]

No. And there was, like, this male fan who's clearly, like, a big Blake fan. And, like, I think Blake was, you know, like, the Kardashians. Like, people know their biggest, biggest fans. Like, people who run blogs about them. So she was, like, trying to have a moment with this guy. I'm like, you don't know him. You don't know him. You don't know this man. Stop.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah, the. The, you know, royal walkabout was unnecessary.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah, the royal. Exactly. Like, when the royals, like, walk through and, like, shake hands and kiss babies.

[Jackie Oshry]

The villages. Yeah. But, like, they're the. Like, you could just go from the car to the carpet to the. To the movie. It's fine. Yeah, it's enough from you. I natural.

[Claudia Oshry]

I am also, like. Anyone else getting annoyed with Brendan Slinnar?

[Jackie Oshry]

No, I'm personally not getting annoyed with Brandon Sklenar.

[Claudia Oshry]

Okay. I am. Because, like, at first, he was, like, a Blake Ally, and then he was a Blake hater. And then over the weekend, he wore this, like, pin on the red carpet, which was the same flower pin that Justin Baldoni had previously worn. And, like, he, like, he's kind of playing into, but he's also like, I don't want to be asked about this. And he's actually been a really big part of the story. Like, one of the big interviews that went viral with Blake being, like, a nasty was when she was sitting with Brendan Slinnar, and he, like, rolls his eyes, so I'm like, oh, he hates her. But then he was. Him and Paul Feig were, like, people to start sticking up for her, and now he. I feel like he's playing both sides, and I really want to know what he thinks. He's just, like, I think, living for the attention.

[Jackie Oshry]

I think that Brandon Skinnard, like, would be a classic case of, like, a Hollywood person who literally doesn't give a fuck what the truth is or who's right. But it's gonna just try for his career. Oh, we're with Blake now. I'm with Blake.

[Claudia Oshry]

Oh.

[Jackie Oshry]

Things are trending toward Justin. Subliminal message.

[Claudia Oshry]

I would be really upset if my. If I found out my boyfriend was like that. Like, I love him, but he's starting to piss me off. Like, whose side are you on?

[Jackie Oshry]

But also, he's gonna be in housemaid, right?

[Claudia Oshry]

Yes. That's why I've been doing a lot of press.

[Jackie Oshry]

Right.

[Claudia Oshry]

Oh, you're right.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yes.

[Claudia Oshry]

That's how it's all connected.

[Jackie Oshry]

It helps to be up Blake's butt a little bit.

[Claudia Oshry]

Maybe post Paul Feig. Such, like, a mover and a shaker. I've never even heard of him.

[Jackie Oshry]

Maybe he posted that thing about Blake when he was, like, down to the last two in casting for Housemate just right. So Paul Feig smiled upon him.

[Claudia Oshry]

Did you see the video of Sydney Sweeney and Brendan Slynn are, like, on set of the housemaid, like, being cute, and now everybody's doing what they did with her and Glenn Powell.

[Jackie Oshry]

No, I didn't see that.

[Claudia Oshry]

Well, I need Sydney Sweeney to stop pretending like she's gonna marry that guy. Like, we know you're not.

[Jackie Oshry]

Stop pretending like she's not engaged.

[Claudia Oshry]

No, no, but the thing is. That's what I'm saying. She's not. Like, you're not marrying that guy, you know? Oh, you're not. Like, stop.

[Jackie Oshry]

I feel like she's very much marrying that guy.

[Claudia Oshry]

No, she would have done it already. Like, she's not. And.

[Jackie Oshry]

And that guy is.

[Claudia Oshry]

I get it. Like, she's in this situation. She's in this situation that, like, I get it.

[Jackie Oshry]

You.

[Claudia Oshry]

You can't marry. Like, what are you doing?

[Jackie Oshry]

No. Whoever he is in this world, like, he's holding up obviously, you know who.

[Claudia Oshry]

He reminds me of. And this is going to be like. Actually, you know what? I'm not even gonna say it. Never mind.

[Jackie Oshry]

So she must love him so much. Like, she can't break up with him. She has to marry him because she loves him so much.

[Claudia Oshry]

No, they obviously buried. They buried a body in the woods together.

[Jackie Oshry]

Like Susan Meyer. He's Susan?

[Claudia Oshry]

Yes. And instead of painting it, she's just doing all these bad movies.

[Jackie Oshry]

No, it could be, like, Margot Robbie who, like, is literally the same, and she's married to, like, a normal industry guy who we don't know, and they just. They're having a baby and, like, that. She loves him so much. Yes. She could have been with Leo.

[Claudia Oshry]

Okay, can I say something, like, a little out of turn? Like, I'm gonna say the thing you're not supposed to say that she's old. No. What? I don't even think that Margot Robbie. Yeah, she, like, married a total nobody. She married a total nobody who's actually extremely good looking.

[Jackie Oshry]

Okay. I don't even know who Sydney Sweeney's man is. So let's go. Let's do it. Let's dig in.

[Claudia Oshry]

I would say, like, yes, Margot Robbie's the most beautiful woman in the world, but her man isn't that much uglier.

[Jackie Oshry]

Than her, you know, Jonathan Divino. Does that sound right?

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah, it does.

[Jackie Oshry]

Okay.

[Claudia Oshry]

And I just feel like him and Sydney Sweeney are on different, like, levels physically. I don't know if that's like, so mean to say.

[Jackie Oshry]

He's not bad looking. He's not bad looking, Claudia. He looks nice dressed up. I. I think he's got something. I think he's got swagger. He's 41.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yes.

[Jackie Oshry]

He's much older and he's five nine.

[Claudia Oshry]

I just.

[Jackie Oshry]

I need her to, like, touch about him now.

[Claudia Oshry]

I need her to quit the act. Like, stop.

[Jackie Oshry]

He's a businessman. What if he's really wealthy?

[Claudia Oshry]

So she. I need her to take Brendan Skinner.

[Jackie Oshry]

Really?

[Claudia Oshry]

Maybe. I didn't know. Maybe this guy Jonathan Devino is somebody she could end up with, like, after an illustrious career.

[Jackie Oshry]

Or, like, why does she have to, like, suffer in order to get like. This would be the end.

[Claudia Oshry]

Suffering.

[Jackie Oshry]

Dating Brendan willy nilly over there is suffragist. Some no scruples.

[Claudia Oshry]

She's a suffragette.

[Jackie Oshry]

Team Blake. Team Justin. Willy nilly. Brendan.

[Claudia Oshry]

No, it's like a fun thing. And like, remember when everybody for five minutes was like, is she dating Glen Powell? Like, that was fun.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah, I agree. How many times you're going to do that before you look stupid?

[Claudia Oshry]

A couple of times. And then you settle down with a Jonathan Devino. You don't show up to the party with a Jonathan Devino.

[Jackie Oshry]

I just feel like, so maybe she's mature. Like. Like, why do you. How long does she have to do that stupid thing before she recognizes real.

[Claudia Oshry]

For me, this is where gender roles are, like, extremely important. Like, if a guy gets really famous in Hollywood and stays with like, his little girlfriend, like, obsessed. You are salt of the earth. Love you. Love you. When a woman does it, it's like, ew.

[Jackie Oshry]

I don't know.

[Claudia Oshry]

Like, you don't have a man with a job. I don't know.

[Jackie Oshry]

Not for someone in the industry. I just can't tell you, like, how that so doesn't do it for me.

[Claudia Oshry]

Me, I'm. I'm ready for this relationship.

[Jackie Oshry]

I'm an actor.

[Claudia Oshry]

It's. It's run its course.

[Jackie Oshry]

Okay, well, I support Sydney being scrupled.

[Claudia Oshry]

And I support myself.

[Jackie Oshry]

Okay. I also want to look up Margot Robbie's husband just to.

[Claudia Oshry]

He's cute. His name is like, Sam or something.

[Jackie Oshry]

Tom Ackerley is his name.

[Claudia Oshry]

Oh, he's exactly. Yeah. You know what I mean?

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah. He's got like a super cute face.

[Claudia Oshry]

And they both have, like, that Australian, like, connection. Yeah. She's Australian. Yeah, no, like, that look. That, like, surfer beachy, really cute look.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah. And then also, he's a producer.

[Claudia Oshry]

I think she, like, made him.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah, like on Itanya Barbie.

[Claudia Oshry]

Terminal Barbie.

[Jackie Oshry]

I'm cracking up.

[Claudia Oshry]

That's hilarious.

[Jackie Oshry]

Okay, well, let me know if anyone sees another simple favor. Our next story. Speaking of two people who are so perfectly matched at a Jackson Claire's match.

[Claudia Oshry]

Oh, my God. And tits out for the boys, Kylie.

[Jackie Oshry]

And Timothy can't keep their hands off each other at the Indian Wells tournament. Kylie and Timothy stepped out at the BNP Paribus Indian Wells Open in Indian Wells, California on Sunday. Throughout the match, they were packing on the pda. Her friends were there. It was just, like, a fun outing.

[Claudia Oshry]

I think I saw Kendall. Right?

[Jackie Oshry]

I saw Kendall, but I also saw Victoria. And then I saw what looked like Victoria looking like Kendall. So I wasn't sure look.

[Claudia Oshry]

I thought Kendall had, like, a really short bob.

[Jackie Oshry]

I feel like, oh, there's Kendall. You're right. You're right. Both of them are. Yeah.

[Claudia Oshry]

Victoria looks like a fab outing. Just like a bunch of friends, drinking, watching tennis, like, taking pictures. Kylie looks so unbelievably gorgeous. Like, I can't believe that these two are together. Like, and, you know, she's definitely making me look at him, like, a little bit more favorably. I've never thought he was, like, cute or my type. And, you know, when she shows up on a red carpet and she's, like, looking vava voom and she's with him, it's like, oh, maybe he's not so bad. You know, she brings up the group average. And her just sitting there, like, with her bombshell blowout, her cleavage, which was just, like, so insane. I couldn't help but wonder, like, seriously, what does she see in him? Like, I'm sorry.

[Jackie Oshry]

She is making me reevaluate him. And I like what I see. I like what he brings out in her. Like this.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yes.

[Jackie Oshry]

Confidence, fun. And she should be the most confident person in the world because, like, she's so gorgeous and hysterical and perfect in every way. And you can really see that she feels that way. So I love that for her from him. But now, like, now when he does stuff, I'm like, okay, Timothy, Kylie's boyfriend, let me listen to you. Like, he gave that speech when he won the sad.

[Claudia Oshry]

Thinking more about him in a substantial way. Yeah.

[Jackie Oshry]

Like, I'm not just like, oh, this actor who I have nothing to do with, but, like, the second word speech that he gave. Like, that he's Like a very serious person. He wants greatness and, like, he will and, like, he's just very high achieving and. And I think that's an attractive quality. I think he's like a serious person. I think he's a smart person. The fact that they've been together almost two years and, like, they're still this into each other and, like, touchy feely and happy, like, I wish them a lifetime of happiness.

[Claudia Oshry]

It's true. It has, like, been a long time and they're still very, like, honeymoon phase. I like that he's very family oriented. He brings his whole family everywhere. And, you know, I love me some.

[Jackie Oshry]

Pauline Jalamen and she's very family oriented.

[Claudia Oshry]

Of course, so they probably have that in common. Also, I meant to tell you, speaking of Pauline Chalamet and Mindy Kaling show, I watched Running Point this weekend. You will love it. It is so funny. First of all, not nobody telling me the star of the show is Chet Hanks. Okay? Tom Hanks's turned troubled youth, young son. He is amazing. He is so funny. And that's why, like, only Mindy Kalin could see that in him, you know? Like, I think people don't take him seriously. He plays this, like, you know, star basketball player who has, like, a bad image, and he's always, like, saying the wrong thing and doing the wrong thing. He is so funny that Jackie. The show is so good. Like, it's really.

[Jackie Oshry]

I. I was on Netflix watching, like, something mandatory, and I was like, damn, I want to be watching that.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah, it was so funny. And there's like a whole part where one of the siblings, like, refuses to call Twitter anything but X. And everybody's like, stop. And he's like, I re exed something. It's like, you retweeted and it's literally you.

[Jackie Oshry]

Even though it is called X. Like, we do still say retweeted, of course.

[Claudia Oshry]

And it's so funny. They're trying to get ahead of a scandal. So one of them, like, has a Finster and he's like, no, a lot of times I can debunk stuff with my Finster. So he, like, writes a Finsta tweet that's like, no, I was at this restaurant. It's not true. That didn't happen. And he accidentally sends it from his real Twitter and then deletes it and then puts it on the Finstad and, like, he's exposed. It's like, normani.

[Jackie Oshry]

What is happening?

[Claudia Oshry]

Oh, my God, it's so funny. It's such a good show. Like, I haven't even finished it. I think I'm like four episodes in, but I'm, like, really enjoying myself.

[Jackie Oshry]

That's so funny. I will watch it. I just added it to the content plate. And what's funny is the last three things on the content plate are all Mindy Kaling Sex Lives, Mindy Project, and Running Point.

[Claudia Oshry]

Mindy Kaling Supremacy. It's fabulous. And the soundtrack is really good too.

[Jackie Oshry]

Can't wait. Like, truly can't wait to watch that. Back to Kylie and Timothy.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah.

[Jackie Oshry]

Like, lots of love. Seriously get married and have babies. Like, I'm serious.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah, I think that's kind of the plan.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah.

[Claudia Oshry]

But Pauline just had a baby. You know when your siblings start having babies makes you think, like, yeah, but.

[Jackie Oshry]

Kylie's already a mama, so it's just about, like, what works for her.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah. No, and I think Kylie's, like, down. She's like, once. Once you have kids, like, you're not afraid of it anymore. It's not, like, such a big deal.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah.

[Claudia Oshry]

Timothy, this is like his first four, right. So he might need to be like.

[Jackie Oshry]

He might, like, want an Oscar first, you know, but he can't really achieve.

[Claudia Oshry]

The emotional depth of Oscar winning performances until he experiences fatherhood.

[Jackie Oshry]

I totally agree.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah.

[Jackie Oshry]

But I could also so see him being like, I can't have a child until I've had an Oscar. And then also, if that ever does happen, him realizing, like, what a stupid thing that is to say.

[Claudia Oshry]

And if he doesn't need that to happen, he needs to take on better roles than that piece of Bob Dylan movie. Sorry, I hated that movie.

[Jackie Oshry]

Like, no one was sadder when he lost the Oscar than Kylie.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah, she's like, up ovaries. We'll try again next year.

[Jackie Oshry]

I don't think they'll get married, though, because they each have too much money going on.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah, but that's fine.

[Jackie Oshry]

That's fine.

[Claudia Oshry]

Did you see the video of when it was time for Timothy's award at the Oscars? People were filming, like, him from the stands, and Kylie had actually switched seats with his mother, who was sitting behind them and let the mom and Timothy sit in the front row together. And she sat behind him, and then when he lost, she, like, hugged him from behind and gave him a kiss. And I thought that was really. We're always talking about, you know, the order of importance. Fiance, girlfriend, mother. And she gave Timothy's mom. And that's just her playing the long game because, you know, now the mom definitely really likes her.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah, no, she's Such a queen.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah.

[Jackie Oshry]

So nobody had more fun than them this weekend.

[Claudia Oshry]

It's true.

[Jackie Oshry]

Are you ready for our next story?

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah.

[Jackie Oshry]

Some sad news about one of our faves.

[Claudia Oshry]

Oh.

[Jackie Oshry]

Luke Combs is detailing his debilitating battle with a rare, particularly wicked mental health condition.

[Claudia Oshry]

Wait, what?

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah, I just saw this. This morning, Luke combs appeared on 60 Minutes Australia and detailed his battle with a rare form of ocd. In a recent interview, he shared that he has struggled with purely obsessional obsessive compulsive disorder, also known as pure O, since the age of 12, but recently experienced his worst flare up in years. So he described it. He said it's thoughts essentially that you don't want to have, and then they cause you stress and then you're stressed out, and then the stress causes you to have more of the thoughts and then you don't understand why you're having them and you're trying to get rid of them, but trying to get rid of them makes you have more of them. He explained the tedious and debilitating condition. He said he feels now lucky to be an expert in pro since he has dealt with it for two decades and he knows how to get out of it now. But he said when it hits, man, it can be all consuming. He said that he had a really bad flare up. He said that a really bad flare up can last 45 seconds of every minute for weeks. He also shared that sometimes the intrusive thoughts are also violent. The way to get out of it is like, it doesn't matter what the thoughts even are. You giving any credence to what the thoughts are is, like, irrelevant and only fuels you having more of them.

[Claudia Oshry]

Here's the thing. Luke Holmes doesn't share much. You know, he doesn't do press, he's not a big talker. So when he does, you best listen because you're gonna learn something. And this interview is no different. We don't report on, like, you know, Luke Combs's random interviews ever, because he doesn't, like, sit down and talk for the sake of talking, like a lot of people do in his business. So I love these little windows into Luki and once again, setting the bar, breaking glass ceilings. Like, do you know any male country music stars talking about their mental health? Because I don't.

[Jackie Oshry]

No. It just goes to show, you really never know what someone's going through. And like, I. I wouldn't thought that Luke might be dealing with something.

[Claudia Oshry]

It's like a mental health sufferer.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah. And in such like a serious Way, like, more. More than the average.

[Claudia Oshry]

Correct. So that's my king right there.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah. Thanks for sharing, Luki, and feel better.

[Claudia Oshry]

And congrats. I think he's on, like, a big Australian something, right?

[Jackie Oshry]

Oh, it's always a big Australian something.

[Claudia Oshry]

I feel like 60 Minutes Australia is, like, Loki, always making, like, news. Do you feel that?

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah, they do a good job.

[Claudia Oshry]

They do.

[Jackie Oshry]

It's a trusted source.

[Claudia Oshry]

Is there, like, a particular. Is there a particular 60 minute segment that, like, you find yourself, like, referencing all the time? Do you know what I mean? Like, I've seen, like, one and I'm always talking about it.

[Jackie Oshry]

I'll just let you answer.

[Claudia Oshry]

That's a question. It was Tick Tock in China, you know?

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah.

[Claudia Oshry]

About how the kids in China are only getting 20 minutes a day and they're doing math equations on Tick Tock.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah.

[Claudia Oshry]

And they're using it as a. A weapon of mass destruction.

[Jackie Oshry]

Like, I've tried to tell you this so many times, but it's 60 minutes.

[Claudia Oshry]

Like, really laid it out nicely. Yeah.

[Jackie Oshry]

Okay. Does that change things?

[Claudia Oshry]

No. I saw it a couple years ago. I'm just, like, always bringing it up and it's like, I sound smart because I'm like, oh, you know, I saw this segment on 60 minutes and people don't know. It's, like, the only segment I've seen on 60 Minutes.

[Jackie Oshry]

But it's important that when you've seen a segment on 60 Minutes, you let everyone know.

[Claudia Oshry]

Right. Same thing. When you've read, like, one article, you always share that article.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah, I like the six minutes.

[Claudia Oshry]

Oh, yeah, I like that too. We need something that's really, like, the sound department slayed. Yeah, we do need something like that.

[Jackie Oshry]

They ate with that.

[Claudia Oshry]

We do, Jackie. We do. It's summer. Summer. Summer.

[Jackie Oshry]

It's like summer toast. That's kind of cool.

[Claudia Oshry]

I don't like that one. I. It doesn't. It doesn't slap the way the 60 minutes one does.

[Jackie Oshry]

No. But maybe we'll have something one day.

[Claudia Oshry]

Never stop. Like a giant. Never stop reaching for your dreams.

[Jackie Oshry]

Never stop reaching for your auditory dreams.

[Claudia Oshry]

Correct.

[Jackie Oshry]

And expanding your auditory profile. Now that we have.

[Claudia Oshry]

I would. I would never even dream of expanding the auditory file.

[Jackie Oshry]

Like, I do wish that we had, like, little bites in between, like, ad breaks and stuff. Like, when other podcasts have. We really like, it makes no sense because we do it live. But when other podcasts have it, like, oh, this is fancy.

[Claudia Oshry]

I don't know. When other podcasts have, like, so many, like, sounds and productions. I'm like, oh, this is not real.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah. Because you can barely hit 45 minutes, and so you need a minute.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah. And at least with the toast, like, yeah. You hear sirens in the background, Jackie's kids crying. I'm blowing my nose like we're losing Wi Fi every 15 minutes. Like. Like, you can never say we're not real.

[Jackie Oshry]

No. I do feel like other shows enjoy the fact that maybe all of their auditory experiences. Total take up, like, three minutes.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah, no, it definitely cuts down the word count.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah, no, it cuts up.

[Claudia Oshry]

You know what I mean?

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah. Punch beefs up.

[Claudia Oshry]

Correct. Are you just giving adjective? You know when. You know when you would, like, throw in a bunch of adjectives? Like, you'd be like, it's extremely dangerous, but also concerning.

[Jackie Oshry]

You know, maybe it is dangerous, but concerning.

[Claudia Oshry]

I know it was for me. I understand.

[Jackie Oshry]

It's giving adjective.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah, Adjective. Like superfluous adjectives.

[Jackie Oshry]

Understand? Are you ready for our next.

[Claudia Oshry]

She was greedy. And what's, like, a synonym for greedy? I think I meant to say it's giving synonym. Not a tiving adjective.

[Jackie Oshry]

I think, like, on the. Like, unnecessary. Yeah.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah. No, it's like, it was extremely unnecessary and superfluous.

[Jackie Oshry]

And.

[Claudia Oshry]

No, like, those are my two sentences.

[Jackie Oshry]

Two, three.

[Claudia Oshry]

Can we end this conversation like I'm not.

[Jackie Oshry]

You keep having additional thoughts. I keep saying. I keep saying, are you ready, kids?

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah, no, like, just. Just move on. If you. If you got what I was saying, like, you got it. If you did it.

[Jackie Oshry]

The thing is, I. I didn't. No.

[Claudia Oshry]

And the thing is, if you didn't, I understand that as well. I get it.

[Jackie Oshry]

I did understand. Are you ready for our next.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yes.

[Jackie Oshry]

Okay, a little divorce news. Shockingly, Emily Osmond is getting divorced five months after getting married. So Emily Osmond is splitting from her husband, Jack Farina. And while many would expect them to still be in their honeymoon phase, looks like she decided five months was more than enough. The actress filed for divorce on Friday from Farina, better known as the stage name Jack Anthony, citing reconcilable differences. They got married in October. So it's been five months. The list date of separation is December 2024, less than two months after the marriage.

[Claudia Oshry]

Okay, so I feel like not to make everything about young Sheldon. You know, Emily Osmond had, like, a small role on Young Sheldon. Yeah. And as. As the seasons progressed, she became more and more important. And then when they created a spin off, it was George and Mandy. She's Mandy. So I feel like when you get to be the star of a CBS sitcom, like, that's money. That's a killy cuoco money. That is money that nobody in Hollywood makes. And I think she saw the writing on the wall and her filing for separation, like, before George and Mandy came out, I think was one of the wisest things she could have done. She's definitely making so much money, and she's had a career that, like, has kind of been, like, up and down, where I don't think she's made a lot of money, you know, at once. And this is, like, the type of project that, you know, an actress only dreams of.

[Jackie Oshry]

Okay, well, first, it's worth noting that they have prenup, so. And with no children, they'll just, like, walk away from this.

[Claudia Oshry]

No, but a pre. But by the way, even with a prenup, money she made during the marriage is still community property. So that's George and Mandy.

[Jackie Oshry]

No, a prenup would make money made during the marriage. Like, separate. Because what you came in with is separate.

[Claudia Oshry]

I mean, prenup is just, like.

[Jackie Oshry]

Prenups are different for, like. So who knows what they had. But say the finances are taken care of. And also, it's like, like you said, she's been sort of, like, here and there all through her career. She found this man who's, like, been with her through it all. Why would she leave him as soon as she hits it big? I feel like, unless they were having issues and, like, she, like you said, saw the writing on the wall and, like, wanted to leave him before the big check came because she knew they would split up anyway. But I don't think that's the only reason. And I mean, to separate two months after you get married. When she's. She's our age, how would you feel? Like, she's.

[Claudia Oshry]

And they don't have kids together.

[Jackie Oshry]

They don't have kids together, and they were married two months.

[Claudia Oshry]

I feel like she found something out about him or he found out something about her.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah, maybe it's kind of giving.

[Claudia Oshry]

Love is blind. You know, it's actually.

[Jackie Oshry]

It's kind of crazy. I feel like Emily Osmond is, like, a very, like, good head. Like, not like a Hollywood girl who gets, like, married and divorced in two months.

[Claudia Oshry]

Agreed.

[Jackie Oshry]

So I feel like something must have happened, and hopefully nothing too terrible.

[Claudia Oshry]

She has, like, a very, I think, normal life. Given her job, I don't think she's, like, you know, can't go to the grocery store. No.

[Jackie Oshry]

And, like, given that she's been in the industry for so long, she just seems very normal in a good way.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah, I agree. This is really crazy. I feel like we're seeing a lot of young couples in Hollywood getting divorced recently.

[Jackie Oshry]

Who else?

[Claudia Oshry]

I don't know. I just feel like this isn't the first one. I didn't realize you were like, follow up.

[Jackie Oshry]

I just felt like when you say that you have someone, at least one in mind.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yes. You know, actually I was thinking of Halle Bailey. Like, she was with her man, they had a baby and then like a month later broke up.

[Jackie Oshry]

Divorce.

[Claudia Oshry]

I don't know if they were married legally, but they were like a family.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah.

[Claudia Oshry]

MGK and Megan Fox. I was just reminded of them. She's pregnant.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah.

[Claudia Oshry]

And they're broken up.

[Jackie Oshry]

That's like a different thing. And also, they're together a million years and now they're pregnant and not together. And it also reminds me of. I'll always think of Michael Kopeck and the Rip and Vanessa Morgan.

[Claudia Oshry]

It all comes back to Michael Kovak.

[Jackie Oshry]

Right. Because that's a classic case of what?

[Claudia Oshry]

And fun fact, I'm just coming off of, like, an eight episode stint of Desperate Housewives featuring Brian Austin Green.

[Jackie Oshry]

Featuring Michael Kopeck.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yes. And. And Michael Kopeck, of course, Brian. Paula Patton.

[Jackie Oshry]

He's in, he works. You're gonna see him around your shows.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah, yeah. It was just kind of crazy. I feel like Desperate Housewives is its own universe.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah.

[Claudia Oshry]

And when Vanessa Williams comes in as, like, she's already a famous person and she's like, like one of the Housewives of the last three seasons, it's such a delight to see, like, a famous person. But then every now and then with, like, a random role, like, Paula Patton plays this, like, turned girlfriend who shows up rhinos and green. It's like, what are you doing here?

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah.

[Claudia Oshry]

But it was kind of jarring.

[Jackie Oshry]

They could have just been, like, a random actor and then since then, they've become super famous.

[Claudia Oshry]

No, but at the time, Paula Patton was famous and so was Brian Austin.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Are you ready for our fifth and final story that will lead into our TV recap?

[Claudia Oshry]

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[Jackie Oshry]

Oh, it is. I love Primal Kitchen. We were just eating their ketchup last night because it's sweetened with honey.

[Claudia Oshry]

Well, let's talk about real food for a minute, shall we? Are you open?

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah, sure.

[Claudia Oshry]

We all know that we should be eating more real whole foods, but really, who has the time? Especially when it comes to, like, your Condiments. You're gonna make your sauces and like your dressing from scratch. Listen, I'm sorry. Like, let's be reasonable.

[Jackie Oshry]

We're gonna need a cheat.

[Claudia Oshry]

And then you're reading every single label at the grocery store. It's just like, hard to keep out for sketchy ingredients. And that's why we love Primal Kitchen and their condiments. They've nailed the perfect combination. Okay, no, I'm sorry. Like, it's crazy.

[Jackie Oshry]

I don't have to.

[Claudia Oshry]

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[Jackie Oshry]

Thank you Riley and crew. I just got a delivery from Riley and Q Crew with the cutest things, the coziest jamas bathing suits, like perfect things, trips to the cape, like we're ready to go.

[Claudia Oshry]

Climax. Climax.

[Jackie Oshry]

A little breaking news before we get into our fifth and final story that will lead into our TV recap, which is that Olivia Culpo has announced that she's pregnant with the partiest photos you've ever seen.

[Claudia Oshry]

Oh, I don't want to say it. You know what?

[Jackie Oshry]

Like welcome to the club. Like that. She's in your gang now.

[Claudia Oshry]

I don't want to say it. I. I was just bragging last week about my timing, you know, my timing, my timing. And look, another party. Let's just. I had a feeling like she might be. I don't know why. I feel like she got married somewhat recently there.

[Jackie Oshry]

She's oddly very traditional about how annoying that is.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yes. We were talking about it offline. Like when somebody tells you that they're pregnant, you're like, I knew I had a feeling. I'm not saying it to her. I'm saying it to you. So it's different.

[Jackie Oshry]

Oh, is it? Okay. Cool.

[Claudia Oshry]

And I just felt like she would have a baby shortly after getting married. That was like the vibe that I got, you know, God willing. That was an option for her because they are, like, very, you know, religious and somewhat traditional. Her wedding dress, you know, remember, I actually was thinking about her wedding dress scandal the other day. Like, how stupid that people are so jealous and ugly.

[Jackie Oshry]

It's been almost a year since she got married. So, like, now you have, like, hindsight when you, like. And you can, like, really see when.

[Claudia Oshry]

You look back, it wasn't trendy. It's aging flawlessly, in my opinion.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yes.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah. I love this. I'm so happy for her. I like her so much.

[Jackie Oshry]

I love this. So happy for her. When I watch the Culpo's on tlc, which everyone should watch, like, she expressed how she really wants to be a mother, and I think she was kind of, like, sad that it hadn't happened for her yet. And she, you know, and she has.

[Claudia Oshry]

Endometriosis, so I think she had, like, a lot of issues with her health for a period of time.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah. So I'm just so happy that it's happened for her. And the pictures are so beautiful.

[Claudia Oshry]

I need you to go see this.

[Jackie Oshry]

There's two photos. Seriously, she's so parchy. Two photos, black and white. She has a pretty substantial bump. She was also now spotted by paparazzi, like, with her bum picking up breakfast. And the caption on the photos is, next chapter, motherhood. Like, okay.

[Claudia Oshry]

Beautiful. So cute. She's wearing the platform Uggs that I. I have to tell her no pregnant woman should wear. I roll my ankle in the doctor's office. I wear them too much. And, like, I actually fell the other day wearing them. Thank God I was with Bana. I keep catching myself. So nothing catastrophic has happened, but the platform Uggs and I love them so much, like, are not for pregnant women.

[Jackie Oshry]

That feels right. You should tell her.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah. Yeah. So, you know, sometimes when we talk about her on the toast, she, like, hears about it. She'll send me a message. So, Olivia, stop wearing the platform mugs like, things are seriously dangerous.

[Jackie Oshry]

Sending you so much love and peace and joy during this time.

[Claudia Oshry]

And I hope you're having a daughter so that she can wear your wedding dress one day, because that's how timeless it is. Yeah.

[Jackie Oshry]

Very happy for them. Now for the fifth and final story that will lead into the TV recap, starting with Love is Blind, because news came out at the Love is Blind reunion. That ad from Love is Blind. What city?

[Claudia Oshry]

A couple seasons ago. I forget what city, but you remember her. She was, honestly, awesome. She the worst guy.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah, she. Well, he was trying his best, I.

[Claudia Oshry]

Feel, and it wasn't good enough today.

[Jackie Oshry]

And also she was talking to Matthew.

[Claudia Oshry]

Oh, yes. It was the Chelsea Jimmy season. Oh. That was I think North Carolina.

[Jackie Oshry]

Okay. Ad from Love is by North Carolina is engaged to Ollie Sutherland from Love is Blind uk which not everybody watches.

[Claudia Oshry]

But yeah. Didn't know who this was and if you were as invested over the summer and Love is Blind UK as Jackie and I were for some reason, like, you know, Ollie and I actually am a friend for her. Okay. So Ali. And this is why the UK one was so interesting for a multitude of reasons. But Ali ended up with somebody who was curvy and they really don't throw a lot of Kirby contestants on the show. And that's actually like a. A blind thing. Like it's a physical thing. Everybody they cast is like on the same level for the most part, attractive wise. So it doesn't make it that much of a question. Like his love blind. So it was really interesting what happened with him and Demi and he was definitely a dick and he's definitely really shallow and I don't have high hopes for them as a couple, but. And everything they were like selling at the reunion. It was like, yeah, sure. But I saw his season. Like I know him. Do you know what I mean?

[Jackie Oshry]

I know it was.

[Claudia Oshry]

But I want the best.

[Jackie Oshry]

That was.

[Claudia Oshry]

He was tough.

[Jackie Oshry]

I just want to say if anybody watch Love is Blind mini soda and like Mrs. The love is blind of your go watch because that will also like give context for this and that. It was such a crazy storyline because the whole time it's like he doesn't like her. He doesn't like her, but he's like saying all the right things. I think he was really misleading. Just because he didn't want to look like a dick.

[Claudia Oshry]

No. And so like the minute cameras were down and it's like the day before the wedding, she literally didn't hear from him up until the altar. Like, he was playing such a part. He was a real actor and he did not want to look like he didn't like her because of her looks, even though that's exactly what it was like. And she ended up using the show to go on this like amazing journey of self discovery and like loving herself and like it was beautiful, you know, but it was a really good season. So while I love this cross promo, I don't know if this is a good match. Like, I think he's also really thirsty and I think like him dating someone from the American franchise which is so much more popular. Like, I don't know it gives me pause. Like, I don't want to be so negative.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah, no. But I don't know. There's a lid for every pot. And I also feel like A.D. i feel like A.D. was. I feel like she was happy to now be in a relationship that's, like, love is Blind oriented to be, like, in a reality couple. But I also could see how, like, on a personality level, like, they both could have fun together and, like, why they hit it off. I'm sure all the alums from these shows meet each other. Not everyone gets together and dates for so long to actually get engaged. So I do think that there's something there, and I will support it. Yeah.

[Claudia Oshry]

That's nice of you. I also think AD Dating within the franchise is really good. First, she recently launched a podcast, like, a Love Is Blind recap. Rap type of show, like, post pods or whatever. And so dating someone within the franchise is just, like, good for. For business.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah.

[Claudia Oshry]

Now, I want to talk to you about the reunion.

[Jackie Oshry]

Please do.

[Claudia Oshry]

And I'm just gonna bring up a picture of everybody because I'm, like, so 100 gonna forget.

[Jackie Oshry]

I'm good on our nicknames.

[Claudia Oshry]

You're what?

[Jackie Oshry]

Like, our nicknames really work for me.

[Claudia Oshry]

No, but, like, I will forget certain people. Okay, so let me say this about the Love is Blind reunion. It was absolutely horrible. I hate every single one of these people. Yeah, I hate every single one of these people. The I hate Netflix. I hate Nick. I hate Vanessa. Like, the way all these people wasted my time, like, is not forgivable. And the fact that I spent another hour and a half watching the reunion, and every conversation at the reunion was about something that happened off camera. So literally, what? It's like, these two couples. This is what happened. You're a liar. So they couldn't agree. I don't know what's real and what's not. I don't know who to believe. Like, it was just. So they didn't recap the season. They recapped what happened after the show started airing and in the year since. It was just annoying because they all disagreed on and not on small things. Things like Sarah and Ben were like, we had this conversation. I left the conversation thinking we broke up. I left the conversation thinking we were moving in together in Nashville. Like, how are you so far away? It was so annoying. I'm like, I don't know. I don't even care who. I don't have. I don't have enough care to choose someone to believe.

[Jackie Oshry]

That's crazy.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah. So let me Go couple by couple. The only saving grace of this entire show was shawty and nurse. So Taylor and Danielle, they ended up getting married. And they are. Daniel. Sorry, girls. Same sex couple. No, Taylor and Daniel. They look so happy together. They bought a house in the suburbs. Not problematic. She made a joke about him following her face.

[Jackie Oshry]

I mean, like, what if it turns out that he did that?

[Claudia Oshry]

I was thinking the same thing. I think that even if he did follow her, she wouldn't care now. Like, she. I think she loves having a husband who absolutely worships the ground she walks on. Their families are so close. Like, shortly after the season, his mom was diagnosed with leukemia. And the hospital where she's getting treatment is the hospital where Taylor's brother is an administrator. He lives right by it. The dad was staying with Taylor's brother. Daniel's dad was staying with Taylor's brother. While the, like, the families are so intertwined. They bought a house. They are so happy. He has a tattoo of her. I think it wouldn't even matter now.

[Jackie Oshry]

We just matter. They are the whole time.

[Claudia Oshry]

But, yeah, whatever. Like, seriously, whatever. Like, small price to pay for happiness. I think that these two were meant to find each other in this small town and they couldn't believe that they had it yet. And love is blind was just the means to get them together. Like, they are really. I've all the confidence that they will be together for a while. Like, it was really cute.

[Jackie Oshry]

I love that.

[Claudia Oshry]

And like, she is. He worships her. It's great. Okay, so, like, they're the only unproblematic people. I just can't believe that the whole season was like, every trailer. He's following me on Instagram. It was the big drama of the season. And it's. This was nothing and it wasn't real. And they're the only people who got right.

[Jackie Oshry]

No, the fact that they're the only standing couple when after the pods, like, they were pretty much, like, broken up over. This is really crazy. And every couple was so strong.

[Claudia Oshry]

Next up. I also think one of the. One of the storylines that kept me interested up until the very end was Dave and Lauren and them at the reunion. I actually thought we got a lot of closure on. And she looked great, actually. Really like her. She's really. She's grown on me. And he sat and he was just basically, like, I found out a couple of weeks ago that, like, the guy who was saying all these things, I found out some things about him that really discredited him. And now I feel so stupid. So he spent this whole year, like, still believing his friends and his mom and his sister. And now he's like, no, I found out a couple things, like last month and now I just feel so. And Lauren was just like, it didn't even make her feel better. Like, yeah, it was, it was so little, so late.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah. I feel like he also just didn't even want to answer for like, what, what he did on the show. So he's like, oh, no, you were right. I saw it too late. Sorry.

[Claudia Oshry]

And Vanessa was like, well, what does your sister think about, like, everything? You were so worried the whole time. Your sister, your sister, Your sister, like your girlfriend. Your sister. You want to make out with your sister? Well, what does she think? And he was like, well, the whole reason she was so concerned was that she didn't want me, like, coming off bad and getting a bad edit or whatever. And like, that's exactly what happened. Like, I came off really poorly and I'm getting a lot of hate. So it's kind of like a self fulfilling process.

[Jackie Oshry]

That's what happens when you, like, are too concerned with how you overproduce. You have to just be. And if you're. Sometimes they do make a good person look bad. And that's really unfortunate, but hopefully most of the time we can just see who a person is.

[Claudia Oshry]

Dave then also went on to say that, like, Lauren is the one that got away and he loves her. And Lauren was like, I don't believe you. Like, literally, it's been a year. You didn't reach out to me to like a couple of weeks ago. And that was a theme with a lot of the couples. They did not talk. There was like a fallout after the wedding. They, you know, maybe talked or dated for a few weeks, but then they stopped talking and none of them started talking again until a. I think they knew the reunion was taping. And so a lot of them want to make amends so that they don't look bad and have the person, like, say things that maybe you told them in confidence. Pillow talk.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah. Well, they don't do that anyway.

[Claudia Oshry]

No. And so that was also a recurring theme. It was like the real throwing under the bus of a person that you claim to love, which I found to be like, really disingenuous doing it. So it happened a lot. And let me say this, there's. There's kind of a theme going on with Sarah and Ben, who's boy with the church and girl with the values. And then Virginia and Devin, I told you, they were having conversations about politics and she shared that Devin did not want to have those conversations on the show. On the show. And so they had those conversations offline, and it turned out to be, like, so different from hers, and, like, they really couldn't match. And that's a huge reason why she didn't. But then she said the weekend leading up to the wedding, like, he was acting weird. Like, his mom got a wedding gift from her boss, and it was a check for a thousand dollars. And, like, Devin didn't tell her about it, which is, like, really makes it seem like he's pocketing a thousand dollars. Like, that's meant for both of them. Whereas he was like, no. Like, we didn't know if we were getting married. So, like, I was just holding on to this wedding gift in case we had a wedding or in case we didn't. And I don't know, I felt like, like, at that they were just trying to hurt each other, you know? Like, and it's sad because you said you loved this person. And so with Sarah, I'm like, her values. Her values. Her values. Her values. Her values, Right? And that's. That's a core part of who she is, whether you like it or not. Like, that's who she is.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah.

[Claudia Oshry]

So why would you say yes to this man? Like, that to me, is so disingenuous. Like, you. It matters so much to you. It was the reason you did not want to marry him. And right before he even proposed to you, you said, before you say anything, like, my values, what do you think? He's like, yeah, I'm willing to, like, gruh.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah.

[Claudia Oshry]

And, like, he wasn't on the same page as you, and he didn't give a shit about any of like, you did. So why are we even here?

[Jackie Oshry]

Like, that is so annoying when something that someone says in the pods is the reason why they don't end up together. When it's like, you accepted that, then, like, the time to deal with it was then, if you're gonna say yes to an engagement, like, you are committed to working on it, even if it's not something that's ideal for you, but for it to be the thing that breaks you up, like, before you've even had a chance, like, given this person a chance to change or grow. Like, I just feel like it's bad faith. Like, then it was always a no.

[Claudia Oshry]

And by the way, they dated after Sarah and Ben. They dated after the wedding, even though at the wedding, she was like, I don't. And he's like, I don't. Either for now. Like, I think we should still the clip of them. She was like, we'll see. We'll see.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah. She was like, we'll date. And she was like, we'll see.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah, I don't know about that. So I was like, okay, you know what? Like, clean break. But so they still went on to date, and she had this travel nurse contract in Nashville for a couple of months, and they were like, trying to decide what to do. So the day before she left, she said that they had a conversation that was like, you'll meet me in a couple of days. You don't need to bring your car. You'll fly out. We'll keep my car. We'll spend however. She's like. And she's like, stay for two weeks, but you could stay for two months, like, whatever it is. And then when I come back to Minnesota, we'll figure out our life together. And he left that conversation, allegedly saying we had broken up. And so he never came to Nashville. She was like, he ghosted me. I'm like, how? How are we? Seriously? Unless there's a language barrier. Like, it's just so frustrating. We didn't see that conversation. So. So, so much of the reunion was like, he said, she said about things we've never seen. And so, like, I actually stopped caring pretty quickly.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah. But I just want to say, I think the. The person who was, like, committed to her, who then even dated her after she embarrassed him on TV with no cameras there, I don't think he was the one that ghosted her. Just using context clues.

[Claudia Oshry]

I don't know. She did a better job of explaining. Like, she had, like, actual. He was just kept saying, I don't remember, I don't remember, I don't remember, I don't remember. And she was like, well, in the conversation you said X, Y. And she had like, real examples from this conversation. And he was just like, oh, no, I thought we broke up. Like, it was just such a lazy answer. Like, how? How do you think you broke up? She was like, what are you talking about? We decided we were. You were gonna leave your car in Minnesota and my car. Like, she had actual facts, details from the conversation. And. And then she also had witnesses. Cause she's like, Then I had the 12 hour drive to Nashville, and I called Taylor, who's the Daniel's wife, and was talking about it with her. So she has other witnesses to corroborate her story. And he was just like, the whole time, like, I don't remember. I don't Remember?

[Jackie Oshry]

That's so weird. He was so. He's literally been, like, so ride or die for her.

[Claudia Oshry]

So so many things just didn't make sense. I'm like, you guys dated after. She should have never said yes to him. Like, it was just. It was so honestly uninteresting.

[Jackie Oshry]

They liked each other so much, so, like, she should say yes. Him.

[Claudia Oshry]

The final couple from the wedding is Monica and Joey. And they, like, went really sideways, so she said no. And then he also was like, yeah, I'm not 100% there. I think they talked a little bit, dated a little bit after, tried to stay friends. Their problem was that they were never really able to get out of the friend zone. Like, he was very goofy and funny, and she was like, I didn't even. I didn't feel like you liked me. Like. And he was like, I did. But, like, she's like, I had to beg you to, like, touch me. And, like, that's humiliating. And she was, like, really mad. And then there was, like, drama where he was, like, sliding into Madison's dms. All this off camera. And I seriously. He was like, no, I didn't. I ran into you at a bar. So they're talking like, it was a million things we hadn't seen. Yeah, I ran into Madison at a bar. We had this conversation. And Madison was loving. Finally, anytime time, she was a part of a couple different dramas. So whenever the people who were in the couples got the majority of the reunion time. And then there was a second couch with, like, Molly. People who, like, didn't make it out of the pods but still had drama. Meg Mason, Alex, Ben Platt. And so whenever Madison was, like, plucked from the loser couch to, like, talk, she was, like, having her moment. You know, she had, like, screenshots in her titties and she was, like, so, like, living. She was trying to have a moment. I don't know why I do not believe one word that comes out of her mouth.

[Jackie Oshry]

At least we know her to be a liar.

[Claudia Oshry]

She's so sinister. Like, I just. I couldn't stand her. So she got brought into the Monica and Joey drama. She was like, well, you messaged me. And I thought that was really. She loves big words, like manipulative, yada. Oh. One thing I wanted to say that I actually really appreciated Lauren saying was, like, to Dave, I know you're getting, like, a lot of hate. And I've seen, like, you know, people calling you a narcissist and a manipulator and, like. Like, I know what those words mean. Like, you're not that. Like, you're just, like, a dick.

[Jackie Oshry]

But someone, like, didn't like me and, like, wouldn't just tell me that and instead blamed it on me.

[Claudia Oshry]

I really appreciated her saying that because, like, this cast in particular loves big words. And you're a manipulator. You're a narcissist. And she was like, you're not. You're just like, an ass, but you're not a narcissist. And he was like, I really appreciate you saying that. I'm sure he's been getting, like, a lot of hate. Like, just, you know, people. You're an abusing narcissist. You're not. Yeah, right. Like, you're not. I just hate you, but you're not. You weren't the best.

[Jackie Oshry]

And Madison is very like that.

[Claudia Oshry]

She loves big words. And so she had called someone, like, manipulator. She called Mason a manipulator. And everybody started laughing. Do you know Mason? He's, like, the weirdest. Like, he's not a manipulator. And so then they went to the loser couch to talk about, like, the Meg Mason, Alex, Madison drama with a side of Molly. And oh, my God, the way I couldn't care. Like, it was so I'm sorry, like, the breakdown that you guys are looking for, you're not gonna get it for me. Like, all I have to say is hoosers. Like, I can't. I don't trust Madison. I don't believe Madison. She had these, like, receipts that she pulled, printed, and, like, left in her bra and pulled it out. She thought she was having, like, a reality TV viral moment. It was just such a try hard. Her receipts, I'm sorry, proved nothing. She's like, I have proof that you said you hated Mason. And she goes on reading these, like, weird conversations between her and Ben Plaid. And, like, he didn't say that. Like, he. He quite literally didn't. So I just. I just. I could not stand Megan Mason dated on and off for, like, the last year, but they really figured out that they're better as friends. They did a reveal, like, when they met for the first time. They had someone film them. It was really cute. They showed it to us. Like, I really wish that they had worked out, but Meg totally had his back. Like, it was Meg, Mason and Ben Platt, who is Alex all against Madison, like, she couldn't believe. She was like, why is it that when a woman does something that a man does? Jackie, I couldn't fucking take it. Like. Like, she's Seriously awful. I can't stand, like, it was just crazy.

[Jackie Oshry]

What's Ben Platt up to? He must be.

[Claudia Oshry]

He did not say one word. He had three seconds of. Of time and he just used it to sit. But he also. I think they cut him out. There have been some, like, really crazy things said about him on social media. He's like a teacher and had, like, inappropriate relations. Like, really dark stuff. Ben Platt, Mason Alexander. Alex.

[Jackie Oshry]

I'll just.

[Claudia Oshry]

Alex. Yeah.

[Jackie Oshry]

Excuse me.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah. So I think they probably wanted to show as little of him as possible. And they did just that.

[Jackie Oshry]

Okay, I'll have to dig in.

[Claudia Oshry]

So let me make sure I didn't miss anyone.

[Jackie Oshry]

No.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah. Her armpit receipts. Oh. And then they were really wasting time being like the top five moments in Netflix's Love is Blind. You are going to choke when you see. And that was like a good one. But that's not number one. They had Lauren and Cameron Hamilton as their reveal as number two. I'm sorry, that should have been number one. They had the Megan Fox Chelsea moment. That definitely is one. It was so annoying. Like, it was so annoying. And then they had.

[Jackie Oshry]

What's the. What's the name of that guy from season one with Diamond? It was diamond and I don't remember his name. But when they broke up in season one on the honeymoons, like, because.

[Claudia Oshry]

Because he did not share that he was bisexual, which is something you have to share. She just wanted to talk about it. And then he, like, made fun of her wig and left. It was. And through the rain, she made fun of him.

[Jackie Oshry]

Like, go get another dick, boy.

[Claudia Oshry]

That was like, actually one of the craziest.

[Jackie Oshry]

That is the number one moment is the fact that they won't be honest about that. It didn't even make top five. Like, you're not serious about this countdown.

[Claudia Oshry]

Then they had this, like, collage in Minnesota Vikings, like, making like they film themselves, like, like talking to the Love is Blind cast. It was so stupid. And then the craziest thing happened.

[Jackie Oshry]

Okay.

[Claudia Oshry]

Someone who we love, and this is not a slight against him. Alex Warren performed.

[Jackie Oshry]

Oh, wait, I didn't know it was Alex Warren.

[Claudia Oshry]

So Alex Warren, who was. We were talking about him on the show a couple of weeks ago. Former Hype house member turned like Lewis Capaldi singer. He sings like a bunch of songs. You guys definitely know. They were like, for our first time ever, we have a performer. So not only was the performer not in the room with them, it was like a pre recorded video that. That Alex had, like singers and dancers and they were all doing it in the pods. Like, it was so weird. Like, one drummer was in one pod and Alex was in another pod on a completely different stage. It wasn't live. So they. You see the cast, like, dancing. They're watching it on a tv. Like, it was the strangest thing I've ever seen in my life.

[Jackie Oshry]

That's insane.

[Claudia Oshry]

I don't even know how to recap it. Like, it was a cool, like, music video for Al. It was a music video. It was all. It was, like, edited. It was not live.

[Jackie Oshry]

Is it a new song? Had you heard it before?

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah, I had. It's from Tick Tock. It's like Head is Up in the Clouds. You know that one?

[Jackie Oshry]

I don't know. Probably. I'm familiar with him.

[Claudia Oshry]

Whatever. It was like a good performance. No shade. I like that moment for him. Like a huge global stage. But what on earth.

[Jackie Oshry]

That's, like, really crazy.

[Claudia Oshry]

And that was another thing that happened. This whole season was like, the music was so amazing. They were playing Christy Abrams Wrecking Ball. Talk about a less worthy group for this soundtrack. Like, there wasn't a moment this season that I was moved, that I laughed. It was horrible and I'm sorry. They literally gave the worst look into, like, life in the Midwest. I don't think they should ever return to the Midwest because the people were horrible. Everything was horrible. Thank God we got Taylor and Daniel. It was just horrible. And every single person. What I learned from the reunion, every single person turned out to be somebody completely different than they were on the show.

[Jackie Oshry]

Damn.

[Claudia Oshry]

Like, that's so frustrating. Joey, like, the big, you know, golden retriever hat. Like he's messaging Madison. Like, they're all. I don't know if they all made each other look bad or they all just, like, were acting, but it was really annoying to, like, I left hating everyone.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah. I feel like this season loses a lot of credibility because only one couple got together. I feel like you could have, you know, explained away the boring. Like, okay, it's not the greatest, but, like, if true love was found, it was just because these are, like, boring people who want to find love but. But because it wasn't even that. It's like, so what did we all just watch? Well, attempt and I'm sorry.

[Claudia Oshry]

Like, these outfits. Devin. Did you see what Devin was wearing, Jackie? They looked so crazy. Like, that's what I'm saying. The reason why this season was so bad was because this. It was this group of extremely ordinary, extremely uncool, extremely uninteresting, extremely not stylish. Like, they were just dreadful.

[Jackie Oshry]

I know. But, like, dreadful things also are sometimes why it's great. Like, it's just regular people and it has to. You have to be like, like regular to really want this to work. Otherwise you're coming on for the fame. If you know and you're. I. I don't know. It's a delicate balance.

[Claudia Oshry]

And hated every minute, every minute of this season. And I'm literally filing a class action lawsuit against Netflix for my time. I already lost an hour with daylight savings. When I think of. Oh, and you know, my ass. I skipped through that wedding episode so hard. I watched the whole reunion because, like, they did a good job of making the trailer look like it was going to be interesting. Oh, my God. Biggest waste of my time. Like, seriously, I'm so sorry to any if I, like, influenced anybody to watch it because my recaps were so funny.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah.

[Claudia Oshry]

And I'm sorry. That's like kind of the blessing and the curse of being this funny.

[Jackie Oshry]

But all in all, it was like less than a month total of tv because we started that week that you were here. And so it was like three weeks. That's good.

[Claudia Oshry]

They. They did too much. I hope they learn from this season. They really need to cut down the wedding episodes. And there were four weddings. Not even a lot. Two hours. Cut down the pods. Like, honestly, if there's so much happening after the season, like, pick up your cameras.

[Jackie Oshry]

And also if producers are producing people and there's say, a love triangle or a square, encourage everyone to get engaged. I want to see all four people from the square and the honeymoon. I want to see each other when by the pool.

[Claudia Oshry]

So much of the pods talking about Meg, Mason, Alex and Madison, and they were not in Honduras.

[Jackie Oshry]

The best dynamics are when people who were between two people see the other person.

[Claudia Oshry]

Barnett and Jessica.

[Jackie Oshry]

Jesse, Jessica.

[Claudia Oshry]

And no, but Jessica wasn't in.

[Jackie Oshry]

Wait, but that lake.

[Claudia Oshry]

The party at the lake. That was a good season.

[Jackie Oshry]

It was an amazing.

[Claudia Oshry]

Oh, that was another moment. That was another moment that was in the top.

[Jackie Oshry]

Exactly.

[Claudia Oshry]

So another moment that was in the top five. Jackie was at the lake party. Oh, no. Before the lake party. Jeremy getting his apple watch left in the car. Remember?

[Jackie Oshry]

Oh, my Laura.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah, she ate him up, up. That was a good. They shouldn't have done that because it really highlighted. There wasn't one noteworthy moment this season that even compares to any of the moments from the top five.

[Jackie Oshry]

That's really what I will say. Like, encourage the triangles and the rhombuses to all come we could partner swap when we get there, but, like, that's what's best. And the fact that, like, there was a square and no one got together. Mason, Madison, Ben.

[Claudia Oshry]

Cut the whole thing. I don't want to watch it.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah. So, okay, now it's time for White Lotus.

[Claudia Oshry]

Jackie and I both had two episodes to catch up on. Like, I don't even know what to say. Nothing happened. I was so bored. I just. The only thing, the only redeeming quality of the show is two things. One, I love that little girl group. Like, I love how they all operate. The conversation about politics was so funny. And then when she sees him, like, talking about her, like, I think that, like, that's actually very real. And Mike White has said, like, no, I was on vacation. I saw these, like, three women, and every time one of them got up, they started talking about the girl who left. Like, it's very real. I actually really like it. And the dad, Thomas Raven. Whatever.

[Jackie Oshry]

My favorite character. And. And also now I've learned more about him as, like, a person in real life. Like, he wore a hostage pin to the birds. Like, this man is amazing.

[Claudia Oshry]

He's Jewish.

[Jackie Oshry]

I love him so much.

[Claudia Oshry]

Lucius Malfoy is Jewish, and he's literally, like, Lucius is like a Nazi. Like, he has white hair. I think he's like. I think there's definitely something Nazi, like, about the Malfoys. Like, that's like. Like, Aryan vibes.

[Jackie Oshry]

I love him. And I. It hurts me to see him going through it.

[Claudia Oshry]

Like, oh, my God, he's such a good actor. I have such a pit every time he comes on stage. I'm, like, anxious for him.

[Jackie Oshry]

I just want things to work out for him. Like, I want him to have his freedom and his money and his house. And, like, it just hurts that, like, the person that I love the most is really suffering and now drug addiction. He picks up a gun.

[Claudia Oshry]

The Laraza pram is so funny. Parker Posey is a real highlight of the show, too. I think they're definitely trying to, like, replicate the Jennifer Coolidge, you know, funny older woman with her, and she's doing a really good job. Everything else, like, my God, is so dreadful. The characters are so stupid. And I liked Guy Tuck, and I wanted him and blackpink Girl to get together.

[Jackie Oshry]

I was rooting for him, but he's an idiot and he shouldn't be in charge of the gate.

[Claudia Oshry]

No. And, like, what happened to the gate? At first I was like, you know what? You were merely a victim. But when you left the gun out and then the gate open to go take your girlfriend back to the dance.

[Jackie Oshry]

No. He's so unfocused. Like, this is a big hotel. Like, you're the la. You're the. The person in charge.

[Claudia Oshry]

The first line of defense. No.

[Jackie Oshry]

And the fact that when she came in, he leaves the gun on the table. It's literally pointing directly at her. That felt, like, ominous, you know?

[Claudia Oshry]

Well, that's how the. Then the whole episode, the whole season opens with a shooting. It's like, that's how the gun gets into the hotel. That's what we're looking at. That gun, I assume it is.

[Jackie Oshry]

I feel like it was a lot of shots in that. That opening scene. And how many bullets was a little gun, Right? I don't know.

[Claudia Oshry]

Like, I don't even know.

[Jackie Oshry]

I know. These are the questions we're supposed to.

[Claudia Oshry]

Be asking the couple with the snakes. I forget their names. Like, they're Morty, Rick, and. Yeah, they're my least favorites. I hate them. Like, I hate everyone.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah. I hope that Saxon and the girl in the pink get together. I ship them.

[Claudia Oshry]

The little brother. And then Gary's girlfriend.

[Jackie Oshry]

And Gary's girlfriend.

[Claudia Oshry]

Oh, got it. Okay.

[Jackie Oshry]

Because, like, she deserves to have, like, a life of fun with someone who's, like, wealthy and will treat her right. Well, he's not wealthy anymore, so she won't stay long, but.

[Claudia Oshry]

Right.

[Jackie Oshry]

What is she doing with Gary?

[Claudia Oshry]

They dropped the AR slur, and that doesn't happen a lot. And it was very powerful. That was funny when he's talking to his lawyers, like, are you. And I was like, oh, you know, you don't hear that word a lot. So when you do it, like, it. It does hit comedically because it's so out of left field. And you're not expecting Thomas Ravenel to.

[Jackie Oshry]

Say, oh, my God. When he was sitting on the. On the deck of the boat having drink after drink, like, looking.

[Claudia Oshry]

Talking about how his dad was the governor.

[Jackie Oshry]

No, no, not in that scene. When he's at the bar next. And then, like, Greg comes over and he's, like. The way he's, like, just sitting there. It's Thomas Ravenel.

[Claudia Oshry]

Well, when he talks about how his grandfather was the governor, I'm like, oh, that's Thomas Ra.

[Jackie Oshry]

He is Thomas Ravenel. And it's crushing. And I loved how.

[Claudia Oshry]

No, me too. He's the best character.

[Jackie Oshry]

Great things for homies, Ravenel.

[Claudia Oshry]

I like to see Belinda, who works at the hotel in Hawaii, like, putting things together.

[Jackie Oshry]

Okay, but why does she keep looking at her robe and Being spooked.

[Claudia Oshry]

Oh, I don't. Oh, Was she looking at her room? I thought she was looking at, like, that part of the. The room.

[Jackie Oshry]

Why does she keep looking at that part of her room and being spooked?

[Claudia Oshry]

I think there's like a spooky vibe coming from there.

[Jackie Oshry]

What?

[Claudia Oshry]

I don't know. Like what? I literally don't know.

[Jackie Oshry]

And how are we supposed to pick up on that?

[Claudia Oshry]

I just want to say I hate this show. Like, I was in so much physical pain watching it. Like, to not pick up my cell phone every 10 seconds was a true test of my face.

[Jackie Oshry]

When you pick up your phone, like, it makes it worse because then you actually have no idea what's going on. So I didn't pick up my phone, but I did pause to pick up my phone. Watching the first episode seriously took me two hours. I think it was an hour long. And then for the second episode, I did it like. Like, turned off the light and curled. Like, I watched it curled up because I'm not on my phone curled up. So I was able to power through better. You have to mentally prepare. Oh, and the daughter. Oh, my gosh. Piper.

[Claudia Oshry]

Piper. Yeah, it's like her, she's worried about, like, her year abroad. I'm like, girl, there will be no year abroad. Like, she's so self centered and, like, the mom's going to withdrawals, the dad's on drugs, going to jail.

[Jackie Oshry]

Like, she really thinks she's better than all of them, but if she wants to spend the year abroad, then her dad could be like, oh, cool, I'll stay with you.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah. Oh, he might be her get out of jack.

[Jackie Oshry]

I think they might be aligned, actually.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah. Yeah, that's a good call.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah.

[Claudia Oshry]

Like, I just don't care about any of these people. Are we missing anyone? It's a three girls. Rick and Morty. The rat lifts.

[Jackie Oshry]

Belinda.

[Claudia Oshry]

Belinda. Then Guy took and for some reason, I don't know one person's name in the show, except guy took.

[Jackie Oshry]

And Lisa wears a pin. A name pin.

[Claudia Oshry]

Wait, when he thought he was getting promoted. And they're like, dude, you literally let in a robber. Like, you're lucky you didn't get fired.

[Jackie Oshry]

No, but the fact that I thought he was getting fired or at least like, demoted to maybe concierge. Like someone whose job it is to just be friendly. He would be amazing at that. And instead they give this guy a gun.

[Claudia Oshry]

Totally. So I hate the show.

[Jackie Oshry]

I like watching it going into town and what's gonna happen with Valentine and his friends. It's not gonna.

[Claudia Oshry]

Oh, I don't know. I don't know. It's weird.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah.

[Claudia Oshry]

And, like, partying with your butler. Like, how desperate are you?

[Jackie Oshry]

No. She's so sad.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah. The Bridget Moynihan. Yeah. Like, your boyfriend doesn't answer you for one day and, like, you're spiraling out in Thailand.

[Jackie Oshry]

Fun.

[Claudia Oshry]

And then they send her to the geriatric pool. That was funny.

[Jackie Oshry]

That was funny. But she's seriously really scary. I feel like she could be the one with the gun.

[Claudia Oshry]

All three of them are really scary. Like, I don't know who I like and who I don't like. I definitely don't like the one who lives in New York.

[Jackie Oshry]

Of course. She's, like, the least. Like, she's the worst. Yeah.

[Claudia Oshry]

Leslie Bibb, like, is unoffensive. Like, she just doesn't really do or say anything.

[Jackie Oshry]

But she is scary too, because she's, like, so buttoned up that you think she's gonna, like, she could crash a burst.

[Claudia Oshry]

Yeah.

[Jackie Oshry]

But I love Leslie Bibb as an actress.

[Claudia Oshry]

Me too. I am having a hard time separating the art from the audience.

[Jackie Oshry]

I'm hard to like her character. Character.

[Claudia Oshry]

And then a Bridget LA girl is.

[Jackie Oshry]

Just dreadful and just so fake.

[Claudia Oshry]

Holier than thou.

[Jackie Oshry]

Yeah. Like, so like this, like, these recaps.

[Claudia Oshry]

Are interesting because the show does a really good job of, like, creating these really developed characters and you learn more about them as time goes on. But in terms of entertaining, like, I'm.

[Jackie Oshry]

Watching a show for things to happen because we. What did. Eight minutes. Talking about, like, the things that happened, happened. But I watched.

[Claudia Oshry]

Right. Eight minutes. I watched two hours.

[Jackie Oshry]

I watched over two hours of content for eight minutes of interesting. That's why it's hard to do what we do. You try being a TV recapper for a day.

[Claudia Oshry]

Try it. I just finished work and it's 5:19.

[Jackie Oshry]

I just write Lotus and it's 11:19.

[Claudia Oshry]

It's literally midnight. Okay, well, we gotta get this episode up and out because everybody needs to know everything.

[Jackie Oshry]

Let him coach.

[Claudia Oshry]

Thank you guys so much for listening to the toast Monday morning show. We deliver the fastest stories in each of every Monday through Friday on YouTube. So you're watching us on YouTube. Please don't forget to subscribe. Leave this video thumbs up. We're also available as a podcast anywhere podcast can be found. So that's Spotify itunes, Stitcher public video. I heard a castbox. All the places we'll be listening to podcasts find us Toastly five star review. But a beautiful about a stunning and of course. About how wickedly talented we are.

[Jackie Oshry]

Of course. Love ya.

[Claudia Oshry]

Bye.