143. Anthony & Tereza Lolli: The Biohacking Power Couple Who Proved The Medical System Wrong

Summary

Podcast Summary: Episode 143 - Anthony & Tereza Lalli: The Biohacking Power Couple Who Proved The Medical System Wrong

Title: The Ultimate Human with Gary Brecka
Host: Gary Brecka
Guests: Anthony & Tereza Lalli
Release Date: February 25, 2025
Episode: 143

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Introduction: A Transformative Journey Begins

In Episode 143 of "The Ultimate Human," host Gary Brecka welcomes Anthony and Tereza Lalli, a dynamic couple renowned for their groundbreaking work in biohacking and their inspiring documentary, "Biohack Yourself." The episode delves into their personal struggles, transformative journeys, and their mission to revolutionize health and longevity.

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Personal Struggles: Overcoming Adversity

Anthony’s Battle with Obesity: Anthony Lalli shares his harrowing struggle with obesity, recounting how he weighed 315 pounds five years ago. After multiple unsuccessful attempts to lose weight, including a gastric sleeve surgery that resulted in temporary weight loss followed by significant regain, Anthony was resigned to his fate.

• Anthony Lalli ([00:00]): "I had made a decision to kind of die by obesity. So I had tried to lose weight like nine times."

Tereza’s Catalyst for Change: The turning point for the couple was the birth of their son, Legend, who faced severe health challenges, including misdiagnosed autoimmune conditions and sleep apnea. Tereza's frustration with the conventional medical system led her to explore alternative medicine.

• Tereza Lalli ([03:02]): "When Legend had sleep apnea getting worse and worse, that was our clarion call."

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Embarking on the Biohacking Journey

Building Support Systems: With Tereza’s unwavering support, Anthony decided to treat his weight loss journey as a business venture, hiring a transformation coach and committing fully to the process.

• Anthony Lalli ([04:43]): "We decided to really just take it on like I would a business venture."

Creating "Biohack Yourself": Inspired by their own transformation and the biohacking practices of bodybuilding champions, the Lallis created a documentary titled "Biohack Yourself." Their goal was to interview vetted experts and provide actionable solutions rather than just highlighting problems.

• Anthony Lalli ([00:28]): "We created a documentary and we titled it Biohack Yourself."

Gary’s Perspective on Vulnerability: Gary emphasizes the importance of vulnerability during such transformative times, drawing parallels with his own health challenges.

• Gary Brecka ([05:24]): "That's the most vulnerable time in your life when you're at the before stage because you're like, okay, I'm all in. But this could not work."

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Developing the Biohack Yourself Platform

Edutainment Approach: The Lallis aimed to make their documentary both educational and entertaining ("edutaining"), likening it to an Oscars-style event for longevity and biohacking experts.

• Tereza Lalli ([18:43]): "We call it edutaining. So we brought Hollywood to this entire world."

Global Reach and Accessibility: To ensure widespread access to their content, they launched biohackyourself.com, translating it into 51 languages to cater to a global audience. This platform serves as a repository of trusted information, featuring interviews, articles, and a magazine.

• Tereza Lalli ([23:42]): "We created this platform, biohackyourself.com, which is translated into 51 languages for global audiences."

Integrating Family into Biohacking: The couple emphasizes incorporating biohacking into family life, ensuring that their children understand and participate in their health journeys.

• Tereza Lalli ([52:22]): "Biohacking as a family, that's like a lot of families fall apart... but this can be that one thing that anchors your family together."

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Challenges and Breakthroughs in the Medical System

Misdiagnosis and Alternative Solutions: Tereza recounts the prolonged period of misdiagnosis their son endured, highlighting the failures of the conventional medical system. Their persistence led them to alternative treatments that ultimately improved Legend's health dramatically.

• Tereza Lalli ([13:22]): "Six months of herbal detox. The lights went on, so now he's sleeping eight hours. He's communicating. Bright eye. How dark."

Exposing Systemic Flaws: The Lallis critique the medical industry's profit-driven approach, arguing that chronic disease management has become a lucrative sector that perpetuates patient suffering rather than focusing on eradication.

• Gary Brecka ([46:17]): "We have an industry that relies on chronic disease... if the most profitable thing in the life cycle of a human is a sick child, the system is broken."

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Innovative Biohacking Modalities

Mitochondrial Transplant: The couple introduces cutting-edge treatments like mitochondrial transplants, which aim to rejuvenate cellular function and combat aging.

• Tereza Lalli ([48:22]): "Mitochondria transplant. That's a new thing. They're doing experiments with that in Mexico."

Biohacking Eyesight and Vision: Another advanced modality discussed is the biohacking of eyesight, leveraging AI and technology to retrain the brain for better vision and cognitive development.

• Tereza Lalli ([48:22]): "Biohacking your eyesight and biohacking your vision... he uses AI, he uses technology to really retrain your brain so you can actually retrain your brain to see better."

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Impact and Future Vision

Media Influence and Public Policy: The Lallis recognize the power of media in shaping public health narratives. Their documentary and platform aim to provide clear, vetted information to empower individuals to take charge of their health. They also engage with public policy, advocating for medical freedom and transparency.

• Anthony Lalli ([40:29]): "The industry needs an objective, clear cut voice. And that's what we're doing now."

Expanding Their Reach: Looking forward, the couple plans to continue expanding their media presence through their magazine, online platforms, and ongoing documentaries, aiming to educate and inspire a global audience.

• Tereza Lalli ([35:38]): "We have our magazine, biohack Yourself magazine, which is going to stay at the cutting edge of all developments."

Community and Education: Their mission centers on education, ensuring that all content is vetted and accessible. By simplifying complex biohacking concepts, they aim to make this knowledge attainable for the masses.

• Gary Brecka ([25:37]): "We have to get to the masses. That's my mission, is to take the ultra complicated, make it simple and try to feed this to the masses."

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Concluding Thoughts: Defining the Ultimate Human

In the episode's finale, both Anthony and Tereza share their personal definitions of what it means to be an "Ultimate Human."

Tereza’s Perspective: For Tereza, being the ultimate human is about having it all—achieving personal and familial happiness through continuous biohacking and setting evolving goals.

• Tereza Lalli ([53:56]): "Ultimate human to me is having it all... that's being ultimate human at that time. And that's always changing."

Anthony’s Perspective: Anthony defines it as "reverse engineering" his life to ensure that his future self is grateful for the health decisions he makes today.

• Anthony Lally ([54:34]): "For me it's reverse engineering. So what the hundred year old Anthony would thank the 47 year old Anthony for the decisions that I'm making right now."

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Notable Quotes:

• Gary Brecka ([06:27]): "There are still some things... not really looking for the hub."
• Tereza Lalli ([07:46]): "It was unavoidable."
• Anthony Lalli ([15:55]): "We need to create clear transparency from the health organization down."
• Tereza Lalli ([29:14]): "This was just mold toxicity."

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Final Thoughts:

Episode 143 offers a compelling narrative of resilience, innovation, and the pursuit of optimal health. Anthony and Tereza Lalli's journey from personal health crises to becoming influential biohacking advocates exemplifies the potential of combining personal determination with cutting-edge science. Their commitment to educating the masses and transforming the healthcare landscape underscores the essence of what it means to strive toward becoming the "Ultimate Human."

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For more information on Anthony & Tereza Lalli’s work and their "Biohack Yourself" documentary, visit biohackyourself.com.

Transcript

[Anthony Lally]

I had made a decision to kind of die by obesity. So I had tried to lose weight like nine times. Finally, it was through her putting her foot down and saying, look, we love you and we want you to do something about it.

[Gary Breca]

That's the most vulnerable time in your life when you're at the before stage because you're like, okay, I'm all in. But this could not work.

[Tereza Lally]

The catalyst of his change was discovering that mini bubble of transformation. So it was no longer weight loss where he was afraid of losing that battle again. It was transformation.

[Anthony Lally]

We had the honor to sit down with the most famous famous bodybuilding champions. It turns out they're all biohacking. And so we said, why don't we create a situation where we can interview the best people in this bubble and also heal ourselves at the same time. So we created a documentary and we titled it Biohack Yourself.

[Gary Breca]

I'm so excited for documentaries like this because I think for the first time we can go around mainstream media and go directly to the consumer.

[Tereza Lally]

It was very important to give solutions to our audience. And I didn't want to watch documentaries about how bad everything is. I just wanted solutions.

[Gary Breca]

We talked little bit about the documentaries. What are you going to serve up to the public in the next few years?

[Tereza Lally]

Can I tell you two things that blew my mind?

[Anthony Lally]

Ultimate Human.

[Gary Breca]

Hey, guys, welcome back to the Ultimate Human podcast. I'm your host, human biologist Gary Breca, where we go down the road of anti aging, longevity, biohacking and everything in between. And today I'm super excited. We were just talking before the podcast about how the tables are turning, learning to go from being interviewed to being the interviewer. And welcome to the podcast. Anthony and Teresa Lally.

[Anthony Lally]

Thank you.

[Tereza Lally]

Thank you for having us.

[Gary Breca]

I'm so excited to have you guys because like we were talking about before the podcast started, I see so many power couples in this industry now really making a move, you know, in an attempt to. To make a difference. I find that most of them have some kind of story right? There's. There was a tipping point, a problem that they solved in their life. And in solving this problem, they've become some of the most impactful people in the world. And I think that you guys fit into that category for sure. First of all, before we even start, I want to say it was an absolute honor and a blessing to be invited, Sage and I to be a part of your shield documentary. She healed. You guys will link that in the show notes below. Just the intention that you put that together with simply amazing So I wonder if you guys might start maybe Anthony first with telling me a little bit about your journey. Like, what brought you here? Why are you a biohacker? Right.

[Anthony Lally]

Well, it started with me being £315 five years ago. So, you know, Tereza has this joke. She was Maha before the word was invented. It was make Anthony healthy again.

[Gary Breca]

Yeah, yeah.

[Anthony Lally]

And. And so she was the RFC you're.

[Gary Breca]

With him at 315 pounds. My goodness.

[Tereza Lally]

Yeah. We met about 13 years ago.

[Gary Breca]

We disappear.

[Tereza Lally]

Yeah. Well, when. When our son Legend was born, that kind of broke the camel's back because he actually had a few autoimmune conditions. He broke out in eczema, and he had a few things. And that's a whole journey that I went on. Right. He was misdiagnosed about nine times with all kinds of conditions. And not only being misdiagnosed, but being given supplementation and medication that would have then made him sicker and more ill. So what happened was the moment they said he has a restless leg syndrome, I was, I'm done with this. Like, I'm going the other route, and I'm gonna see 20 of these other doctors. I had no idea what functional medicine was or alternative medicine was. But to tie it back into his health was when Legend was up every night, four or five times a night, I was up nursing him back to sleep, and I would hear him almost stop breathing. So his sleep apnea was getting worse and worse. And that was really, like. That was our clarion call, right?

[Anthony Lally]

It was a clarion call. Cause I had made a decision to kind of die by OB obesity. So I had tried to lose weight, like, nine times. I even did the gastric sleeve, lost 50 pounds, and then put on 70. But it was worse because now I couldn't absorb food proteins. So I was worse off. My BMI was off the charts. And I just said, look, it's not gonna work, honey. I know you want me to get fit, but this is how I'm designed. But the other opposite end of the pendulum is that my success was growing. So there was no one around me except my loved one, saying, this is not good. It was just a bunch of yes people around me saying, this is great. This is great.

[Gary Breca]

Yeah.

[Anthony Lally]

And so finally it was through her putting her foot down and saying, look, we need you alive because the kids love you. We love you, and we want you to do something about it. And then we decided to really just take it on like I would a business venture. And I said, okay, now I'm in the Business of getting myself in shape. So what would I do if this was a real estate project? I hired an architect. I would hire this. In this case, I hired a transformation coach to live with me.

[Gary Breca]

Wow.

[Anthony Lally]

Yeah.

[Gary Breca]

That's a commitment.

[Anthony Lally]

That was a commitment. And we had kind of been in media and entertainment. I was an executive producer. We do stuff together. She was a singing model and actress. So I'd already been in that world. But for the first time, I stepped in front of the camera, let the guard down, and did a complete transformation documentary that went viral during the pandemic. Yeah.

[Gary Breca]

Yeah. And, you know, that's the most vulnerable time in your life when you're at the before stage because you're like, okay, I'm all in. But this could not work. And I'm basically going to document my failure.

[Anthony Lally]

That's right.

[Gary Breca]

You know, I do the same thing. I have a VIP community that I share information with. And. And lately I've just said, you know, I'm going to be exceedingly transparent and authentic and talk about my own health journeys. Because there are still some things. You know, I recently got metal poisoning from a. From a machine that I thought was structuring my water. It ended up giving me metal toxicity. And so how am I going to get the metals out of my, you know, out of my blood? My daughter's suffering from severe mold and mycotoxin poisoning from a mold infection. And there's just not a lot of good information out here. Just like what you were talking about. Classic diagnoses. Now you have restless leg syndrome, you have hypertension, you have hypothyroid. You know, you have mild depression. Of course you do, because you're £315 and you're suffocating all night. Now you have sleep apnea, and it's just all of these spokes of the wheel, but not really looking for the hub.

[Tereza Lally]

Yeah, right.

[Gary Breca]

And you found the hub.

[Anthony Lally]

Found the hub. That was one hub that I found. And we were able to resolve and mitigate the weight loss situation. And that turned into us really doing a dive into bodybuilding. Because once you learn about transformation, you learn that there's a whole community of people that have completely erased what they look like and they're competing. So we got involved in that. And then she got bit by the bug and wanted to. Because the now, it was the opposite. Now I was the one in charge.

[Gary Breca]

Look. Amazing.

[Tereza Lally]

He kept calling me babe. We're the beauty and the beast. But if somebody dares to call you the beast, send them over. But the Thing is, you said a hub, right? I think the catalyst of his change was discovering that mini bubble of transformation. So it was no longer weight loss, where he was, like, afraid of losing that battle again. It was transformation. It was a new toy. Oh, there's many people that are doing this. There's many people on Instagram talking and commenting on each other. So he's like, that's what I'm going to do. So what we do, the first thing I did was to create a visual image of that. So I photoshopped his head on a very muscular model's body. Really? Yeah, on Google. And I printed it out. I literally put it on the ceiling in the bedroom, in the bathroom, wherever he spends the most amount of time above the tv.

[Anthony Lally]

It was unavoidable.

[Tereza Lally]

Unavoidable. So it goes into your subconscious, and believe it or not, your subconscious makes your entire life. So all of a sudden, from that image, he finds this transformation coach. Next thing you know, a month later, he's living with us. Next thing you know, my mom moved in with us. So it was his mom, my mom, the two real young babies. As our daughter's acting career at 2 years old is picking up, she's booking national commercials here and there, casting, auditioning, and our son is going through his health battles where I'm going crazy examining the functional medicine world. We had support. So imagine it was the wrong. The most wrong time that he could have ever picked up trying to lose his weight. But the support that we created around us, the hub within the hub, right? The transformation hub was the discovery. Then we created our own insulation hub, and we said, this is what we're doing together. And so my mom was the cook, the person who would put the kids to sleep. His mom was the Swiss army knife. It takes a village. It was amazing.

[Gary Breca]

Yeah. But, you know, I think when everybody is on this journey, it makes it. My wife and I started a functional medicine clinic 10 years ago in a strip mall. We took over a little vitamin shop in a strip mall in Naples, Florida, and we were both on the deck of the same ship. You know, we're both rowing towards the same goal. We had the same passion, the same purpose. I'm not going to say it was all easy, Right? And this probably wasn't a completely easy journey for you guys, too, because anybody that says you can separate work from your private life is lying to you. And as you guys go on this journey, this seems to me, I don't want to put words in your mouth, but inspired your life to go in a different direction.

[Anthony Lally]

Absolutely. Completely transformed our life. And then Teresa started looking into her health, Right?

[Tereza Lally]

Yeah.

[Anthony Lally]

So then she went through her own physical transformation journey from the outside. So we started competing and we competed.

[Tereza Lally]

Together 32 times, eight months straight.

[Anthony Lally]

So I went from being an obese guy who wouldn't even be cast to play the father of my own kids on some commercials that the kids book. They'd have to get a model.

[Tereza Lally]

We would get a lot of.

[Anthony Lally]

She would play the mom. Because she'd be the mom.

[Tereza Lally]

She'd be the mom, two kids and an actor dad.

[Anthony Lally]

Yeah.

[Tereza Lally]

And he'd be the bts.

[Anthony Lally]

I would be the BTS guy. Kind of like what he's doing. That's, that's what I would be doing on set watching some other guy. So anyway, that's gotta send. It was like, you know, it was that and amongst other things. And then what ended up happening was she's like, wait a minute, I have a mom bod. Let's compete. So 32 times around the world we competed. We did a docu series about that. Turns out there's a lot of other couples that struggle with weight and challenges and use exercise to bond. So this kind of solidified our relationship even further because we were thinking about.

[Tereza Lally]

A lot of people are actually afraid to dive into that because they think they need each other's space. And there's all these myths about working out together. Right. But then there's also this hashtag, couples who work out together stay together. Well, for us, that was an incredible journey of strengthening our relationship.

[Anthony Lally]

So out of nowhere, she becomes a two time bikini pro. I become a muscle model, probably.

[Gary Breca]

Wow.

[Anthony Lally]

And then we're like, wow, we made it physically. Turns out her hormones were out of work.

[Tereza Lally]

I went into early menopause for three months.

[Anthony Lally]

Yeah.

[Tereza Lally]

Wow. Because body fat for, for extended amount of time. I didn't know, I wasn't coached. We were being coached for meal plans and getting to that perfect body shape for the competition.

[Gary Breca]

Right.

[Tereza Lally]

But nobody was nutritionally coaching us.

[Gary Breca]

And I think this is something that goes lost on a lot of women. I say it all the time. Intermittent fasting is not a one size fits all. And some of the worst endocrine disasters we've seen in our clinic system were young menstrual women that, that ate in a very narrow feeding window. They had very, very strict diets or very narrow feeding windows. Two hours, four hours, which, you know, all the conventional wisdom says, oh, that's great, you know, one meal a day. But for, for women, it can really jack up your hormones.

[Tereza Lally]

Absolutely.

[Gary Breca]

Especially because of the changes that you have throughout the month, whether you're follicular, ovulation or luteal. You know, you have different, different nutritional needs.

[Anthony Lally]

And we're like different signs, right? So, yeah, we were like, okay, this is not maybe the journey health, bodybuilding, extreme bodybuilding and the kind of diet and exercise we were doing. Then we were asked to do a bodybuilding documentary where we had the honor to sit down with like 32 of the most famous current and past bodybuilding champions. Mr. Olympia, Arnold classic champ, great people. We got a chance to really build a bond with them. Turns out they were like, this is not the way to live. And they're all biohacking, doing things to recover, repair. So there was kind of like little antidotes like that. After talking to all of them, seeing what they're doing now to kind of fix and right their wrongs that they did, and we're like, that's interesting. And then our son, you know, got hit with mold toxicity.

[Tereza Lally]

Our son was already on the healing path. After I saw the 20 functional medicine doctors, I was able to put the pieces together. It was the two copies of MTHFR gene mutation and mold in our H VAC system, which we would have never thought didn't affect us, didn't affect our daughter, but it affected him. And that's actually when I came across your Instagram feed and I showed Anthony. I was like, look, this guy's talking about what I'm talking about. So I'm right. And, yeah. Then finally we chose an herbalist who was super available over text, over, call, at any time. And I said, okay, you're going to give me the protocol that you're going to detox my son with, but I'm going to take your protocol and audit it with the other 20. And if they all agree on that, because this is my. This is my jam. This is my son. His life depends on me and my decision making. Can you believe that?

[Gary Breca]

Yeah.

[Tereza Lally]

So she said, okay, fine. She gave me the protocol. I took it to the 20, and they were so kind to actually review it and say yes. So 10 of them said, go with this woman. So I went with her. Six months of herbal detox. The lights went on, so now he's sleeping eight hours. He's communicating. Bright eye. How dark.

[Gary Breca]

See it this time?

[Tereza Lally]

He was 18 months when we started the detox.

[Gary Breca]

18 months.

[Tereza Lally]

18 months when we started the detox. So when I discovered everything and we were getting misdiagnosed, it was basically from three months all the way to like nine months misery.

[Gary Breca]

And this was mold toxicity.

[Tereza Lally]

This was just mold toxicity.

[Gary Breca]

So he got mold in the first three months of his life?

[Tereza Lally]

Absolutely. I was told I had mold pregnancy, that we were just not informed about that. So therefore, seven days old, he broke out in jaundice. Two months old, he broke out in eczema. Those were telltale signs for me because I come from a country of Armenia and everything is super healthy there. I don't know what eczema is. These things are not meant for us. Right. I'm just thinking like, what is eczema? I don't believe in it. There has to be something internally. So it was just very eye opening to go through that whole experience to meet all these different professionals, all in a tri state area where he had to use some of his political connections and call the mayor and say, hey, I know this naturopath is not seeing anybody. Doors are closed. Can you get us? And this is for our son. So we literally saw some of the best of the best. And when, when, when we put together the pieces of the puzzle, it seems so much simpler than it was. It was so complicated, it was so dark. There was no guidance had.

[Anthony Lally]

We had went with the recommendations that.

[Tereza Lally]

Let'S say Van Gon gave us NYC Langone.

[Gary Breca]

Yeah. Oh my gosh.

[Tereza Lally]

They, they said he has restless leg syndrome and they gave us the iron supplement.

[Gary Breca]

Oh my God.

[Tereza Lally]

Iron mold.

[Gary Breca]

Iron mold would have been, imagine he.

[Tereza Lally]

Would have been completely ill right now.

[Gary Breca]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Tereza Lally]

So, you know, but thanks to your.

[Anthony Lally]

Work and the algorithms that at least it we got a chance to see your work.

[Gary Breca]

Yeah.

[Anthony Lally]

We're like, well, let's second guess this thing. Someone else is really saying thank you. This is not good.

[Tereza Lally]

You came at the right time, at the right time.

[Gary Breca]

Thank you so much. That's amazing.

[Anthony Lally]

But you know, still in all it was very confusing because it's just you and then who else?

[Tereza Lally]

Right.

[Anthony Lally]

So there's a lot of info obesity out there. And so we said, why don't we create a situation where we can interview the best and most vetted and accredited people in this bubble that we discovered just like we discovered transformation, just like we discovered bodybuilding. Let's change the algorithm and group everybody together and also heal ourselves at the same time.

[Gary Breca]

Wow.

[Anthony Lally]

So we created a documentary and we titled it Biohack Yourself. Because she's like, I want to biohack myself.

[Gary Breca]

I always wonder what the impetus was for that because, you know, coming from your background, I mean, my father has a saying I think it's the best saying about life, and he's very simple. You just met him, Captain John Bracker. But he says life is what happens to you when you're on your way to doing something else. If you want protein to build lean muscle, but without the caloric impact or need to cut, you need perfect amino. It's pure essential amino acids, the building blocks of proteins in a precise form and ratio that allows for near 100 utilization in building lean muscle and no caloric impact. So we build protein six times as much as whey, but without the excess body fat we normally get during bulking. This is the new era of protein supplementation and it's real. If you want to build lean muscle without having to cut, you need perfect amino. Now let's get back to the ultimate human podcast. And that's what happened to you. Yeah. On your way to doing something else.

[Anthony Lally]

Yeah.

[Gary Breca]

You'd had enough, you made a change and now you're moving this in different direction.

[Anthony Lally]

Yeah.

[Gary Breca]

Tell me about biohack, because first of all, I'm a huge fan. I know a lot about it. I want my audience to about it. I'm going to put links in the show notes below. That's a. It's. It's a must watch. I went to the premiere in, in. In Vegas, but I'm so excited for documentaries like this to start seeing the light of day because I think for the first time in my adult lifetime, we can go around mainstream media and go directly to the consumer. The consumer has the choice to consume whatever media they choose. And a lot of people are consuming educational media so they can better their lives. Yes. So you put together this idea to launch biohack. By the way, this thing is a massive, massive project. I don't think people realize when they say, yeah, I shot a documentary, it wasn't some dude with a camera on his shoulder and an iPhone. I guess it's serious production.

[Anthony Lally]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. We said, let's pull out all the stops. Let's really screen the people by personal referral, invite only. But we said we want to create a documentary that's different than ones than the ones that exist. The ones that exist currently are mainly really talking about what's wrong with the system, how we need to get together and, you know, real. And most of the people you see in those documentaries, you can't do business with, so. Or you have to be a stenographer and wait for the credits to find out what that person's name was. When you call them, they're A celebrity, you can't really. So we said, why don't we create a documentary where we're meeting real people and you can get their backgrounds, you can feel comfortable about who they are and will lead you to find their podcasts, their, their Instagrams, their websites. They actually have products and services. They'll, they'll, they'll share their pain to Passion story. Maybe it's something you can relate with.

[Tereza Lally]

Most of them also have telemedicine and are very available to have clients all over the world. So we actually carefully hand selected the best doctors, best founders, scientists and experts. So the experts would come and talk about overall what's going on and then we go straight into a solution. For us was very important to give solutions to our audience because I was exhausted. I didn't have solutions and I didn't want to watch documentaries about how bad everything is. I just wanted solutions.

[Gary Breca]

I agree.

[Tereza Lally]

So we created this hub, Biohack Yourself, where we interviewed 114 people in the industry.

[Gary Breca]

Wow.

[Tereza Lally]

And not only are our lives have completely changed now from the understanding of everything from A to Z. Right. But also the fact that we made it edutaining. We call it edutaining. So we brought Hollywood to this entire world. During the, during I experienced it, we said, let's make it the Oscars of longevity. Let's put these doctors, these people who are changing lives on the red carpet. So let's change people's algorithm. Instead of watching, you know, Taylor Swift, for example, right. She's not healing lives out there. She's for entertainment. We're for edutainment.

[Anthony Lally]

I love that.

[Tereza Lally]

Where we can actually save lives.

[Gary Breca]

Well, I think, you know, when I look at, we did a project in the Middle east and they had, they hired a bunch of McKinsey consultants and one of the things they did was they did this global analysis of interest, looking at search engine optimization, likes, shares, forwards, views, comments, you know, videos that we're trending. Basically the long and short of it was that if you group these things like biohacking, anti aging and longevity sort of together, whatever you want to call it, Bio optimization, biohacking, it is the fastest growing area of interest in the world. And it starts in very young age demographics, like 16, and goes all the way into the late 70s. I mean, this isn't like sports entertainment, country music, you know, these, these areas that have high levels of, but very narrow interest. This is every spectrum. Yeah, Global in every spectrum. And my opinion is that it was really kind of sparked by the pandemic. I Don't know what your pan. I'd love to hear your.

[Anthony Lally]

Absolutely. I think people resonated with healing at that point because they all felt. I mean, especially with the weight loss documentary that we released during the pandemic, there was a crop of people were like, okay, I'm going to get a grip on my health now. And they wanted to see that it was possible. And so I think when you go into this biohacking journey and your algorithms change, you start recognizing that a lot of these people are trending up. Like you're, you're. Every time I see you, you look younger.

[Gary Breca]

Yeah.

[Anthony Lally]

You know, like, you know, lighting dudes, like, and. And when you really do a deep dive, there's a lot of transparency with all the people we've interviewed and featured in our documentaries. These are real people.

[Gary Breca]

Yeah.

[Anthony Lally]

That have had real success with the protocols and no one's perfect. Things change. And you're always up to date with the latest sciences and the latest studies and, you know, but the impact that it's having. So I think the pandemic itself really opened everyone's eyes to question, okay, this, this is not right.

[Gary Breca]

Yeah, maybe, maybe the elites don't have my best interests at heart. And no matter what side of the aisle you're on, pro anti vaccine doesn't matter. And you realize that everybody knew somebody whose life was permanently changed by. By that pandemic.

[Anthony Lally]

Steve Jobs died from cancer. You have Kate Middleton with all these cats. So the elites don't have the secret.

[Gary Breca]

Right. Right.

[Anthony Lally]

They don't know how to resolve these things. And so those are the things that are scary because Teresa's like, well, what does so and so do? What does this celebrity do? What is that? Well, this celebrity is dying.

[Gary Breca]

Yeah.

[Anthony Lally]

This celebrity is not feeling well. And the ones that are, are seeing people such as yourself.

[Gary Breca]

Right.

[Anthony Lally]

And they're the ones that are completely changing the way they look, the way they feel, the way they perform business. You know, success leaves clues.

[Gary Breca]

Yeah. It really does. So now you, you know, you've put this amazing documentary together and you really have done an incredible job. I don't know who was advising you, but I mean, you hand selected just an unbelievable, I'd say every mentor that I've had personally, Dr. Hyman, Dave Asprey, and so many others. Dr. Amen. You know, these, these folks that you were able to get onto this documentary to share their stories. What has been the byproduct of that? I mean, obviously, shield the next documentary. Yes. How have your lives changed? What, what, what's going on in your lives?

[Anthony Lally]

Well, what happened was the, we started promoting the documentary very early on. The buy in and the collaboration and cooperation from the people we featured. We took a very social media approach. Instagram, Facebook, YouTube X and everyone was sharing the content we create. We produce shorts and reels, little clips from the doc. So people are already, when is it coming out? Is it out already? What's going on? So it was like this huge demand for wanting to know more. So we started creating like a website that was like a news platform to really inform people about who these people are.

[Tereza Lally]

Well, we felt the need because a lot of the companies we've interviewed, let's say 10 months prior, they're now coming up with new products and there's things that are changing and advancing on daily. So we said we need to create this platform, biohackyourself.com, which is translated into 51 languages for global audiences to really be on the front lines. One joke we always have, right? I was talking to my cousin in Armenia and she was like, oh yeah? Well, JLO and Ben Affleck broke up again. I was like, wow, like the power of news that translates into third world countries is so powerful. So what if we do that for health? Why is there such an uneven level of information about biohacking and longevity in third world countries and even in the States, like it really matters which society you live in, which bubble you live in and the information is so vastly unfair. So for us it was very important to bring that level up because that rises the consciousness. With the right consciousness, we make right choices as humanity.

[Gary Breca]

That's so amazing because I think too that there are. And when I built my ultimate human platform, I purposely didn't want to do this, but there are a lot of ultra woke biohackers that are out there just speaking to other ultra woke biohackers. And I don't have a problem with that. I mean very smart people, people that I would consider to be mentors, but they're speaking in a way that, you know, look how intelligent I am, look how much I know. And it's, it's to, you know, impress or impact their peer group. But we have to get to the masses. That's my mission, is to take the ultra complicated, make it simple and try to feed this to the masses. Because you go out to, you know, middle America and they don't know what, they don't even know what a cold punch is. They're a cold methylene blue. I mean nad. I mean, you Know, and by the time you know what NAD and methylene blue are, you're. You're 80 of the way there just by the fact that you even know what those are.

[Anthony Lally]

Mitochondria.

[Tereza Lally]

ATP.

[Gary Breca]

Yeah. If you know what mitochondria is, you're in the top 2%.

[Tereza Lally]

Right. When we watch those podcasts, it's like watching a ping pong championship. You don't understand. It's fast. It's back and forth. Right. So our main mission was to bring the most incredible experts and really, really dissect the information. And we brought our children on board.

[Gary Breca]

Your kids are amazing.

[Tereza Lally]

Thank you. Yeah, I mean, imagine a 6 and an 8 year old interviewing Dr. Daniel Amen about brain health.

[Gary Breca]

They interviewed me.

[Tereza Lally]

They interviewed you. You guys had no choice but to simplify everything and make it so intimidating. So that's how we got into public. Because they feel relatable.

[Gary Breca]

Yeah.

[Tereza Lally]

You know, we're just regular.

[Gary Breca]

My money, by the way, is on your son. If I can buy stock in him, I, I feel like he's one of those stocks that you're like, if I could have bought Bitcoin at 3 cents. Because you always. When I walked into the house in, in Vegas, it was so funny. He's, he's perfectly, you know, dressed. He's got the cutest suit on, brand new shoes, and he's. Remember, it had those, like, lily pads that you would walk around with the water around it. And he wanted to put his foot in the water so bad. And your cameraman was like, don't put your foot in the water. Don't touch the water. Don't touch the water. And he put his foot over, put it, and he put it on the side. And then as soon as the cameraman didn't look, he tapped his foot in the water. That's the kid I want. I'm putting my money on.

[Tereza Lally]

He's amazing. But imagine that's the kid who would have been misdiagnosed, mis. Supplemented, mismedicated, and gone out of the world.

[Anthony Lally]

Yeah.

[Tereza Lally]

Without the light. Without that energetic light. Can you imagine how many kids are being treated like this and how unfair that is?

[Gary Breca]

You know, I'm all about optimizing performance, and lately I've been using the ion weighted vest during my workouts, and it's been a game changer. It isn't your average weighted vest. It's designed to fit like a second skin, activating your core, improving blood flow, and even helping you with recovery while you train. What I love most is that the weight is perfectly distributed. It doesn't pull on your shoulders or throw off your alignment. Whether I'm doing strength training or cardio or just taking a walk, I'm burning more calories, building muscle, and pushing my endurance even further. If you're serious about leveling up your training and unlocking your full potential, check out the Ion weighted [e-mail] that's a I O-N-COM and you can use code ultimate for 10% off and start training smarter today. Now let's get back to the ultimate human podcast. And you know what it is. I, you know, I believe so much more in what God gave us than what man makes us. And by that I mean the greatest pharmacy ever, you know, created is, is right here. Right? I mean, and this has the ability to heal itself, the power that this has over this. I think medicine very often treats these as separate entities. All right, you can't be sick here and healthy here, and you can't be sick here and healthy here. They're connected. And what's, what's really amazing to me is when I see the best longevity anti aging biohacking treatment options, really what they're doing is almost full circle, coming back and empowering the body. Look, PRP is platelet rich plasma. You know, using your own platelets to create healing. And how do we, how do we light our own immune system up to turn it on pathogens? How do we activate our detoxification pathways? And, and I get a lot of that from this documentary. It's a documentary not about lotions and potions and tricks. It's a documentary about empowering yourself to take your own healthcare journey into your own hands for you and your family. Which is kind of ironically what you guys did to get to where you launched the biohacking documentary.

[Tereza Lally]

And that help is that really no matter where you are in your health journey, there is healing solutions. We've heard some of the incredible healing paint to purpose stories that, you know, they were sicker as a child, and now at 60, they're thriving with vitality. So just listening to those stories and bringing that to the audience, the hope is incredible, right?

[Gary Breca]

Yeah.

[Anthony Lally]

I mean, you know, we didn't go in this blind. We're very skeptical. You know, we're from New York originally, so New Yorks are skeptical about everything.

[Gary Breca]

Yeah, yeah.

[Anthony Lally]

And so we went in there with an open mind, but also asked the questions and really by referral only. You mentioned there was a, you know, we had our own version of peer review, so anytime we casted someone, we went through the board and said, what do you guys think? Do you want to be in a documentary with this person? What do you think about them? And we turned down like a good portion of people that really didn't fit the bill to be involved in this because the other people are just like, I don't really believe in what they're saying. So if it's coming from that peer group, we respected it.

[Gary Breca]

Yeah, yeah. Well, now you have this amazing platform, this launching pad, by the way. You built a true media channel. I really want to commend you guys on that. It's not just a docu series that you're, you've created or a documentary, like an actual informative, curated repository where people can go and get trusted information from people that have been vetted. So I would encourage everybody to check the show notes below and go check out their, their platform. But now that you're, you've been bitten by this bug, which clearly you both have, you know, where does this go? What's the vision look like for you guys? Because now I, you know, I just, just went to, you know, we were featured on your shield documentary and then we went to the MAHA Ball. Massive presence at the Maha Ball, which was amazing, by the way, the energy at that place. I mean, when Bobby Kennedy gets confirmed, which is today, by the way.

[Anthony Lally]

Today that's happening.

[Tereza Lally]

We were actually watching on the drive.

[Anthony Lally]

Yeah, we were watching. Well, they're trying to beat him up on, you know, as normal as usual. They're trying to beat him up in the confirmation.

[Tereza Lally]

Praying. We've been praying.

[Anthony Lally]

We're really now health pressure. And so really the industry needs an objective, clear cut voice. And that's what we're doing now. And so it was an honor to be asked to produce that ball for Bobby and Dell. Dell participated in SHIELD and he FaceTimed Bobby and said, right now I'm at this biohack yourself premiere. And Bobby and the team said, we need that kind of energy at the Maha Ball because these people are on the front lines. These people are the voices of Maha. These are the moms, these are the practitioners. And so we had, you know, our reporters are actually health advocates. They're practitioners, respected people with their own platforms, their own voices. So they know when they're asking questions, when they're interviewing them. They're not just some journalists with.

[Gary Breca]

Yeah, beautiful pediatrician there. Yeah, she interviewed my wife and I, I mean it was just, just, it was so, it was so incredibly well done.

[Tereza Lally]

Well, again for us it's to create this Omni media approach where it's really accessible to every level of human beings. So we have our magazine, biohack Yourself magazine, which is going to stay at the cutting edge of all developments and again, bring everybody to the same level of understanding and being able to take charge of your own health. You mentioned the pandemic. Pandemic was an incredible eye opener where people are really taking care of themselves now. Moms across the world, I'm seeing, take responsibility before pregnancy, detoxes, during pregnancy. Really looking at it themselves, not just taking some prenatal. So we have our magazine that's going into national distribution. We have our biohack Yourself media platform, which is online as well as social media. Biohack Yourself Media.

[Gary Breca]

And this is free for people that are caught, right?

[Tereza Lally]

It's free. And now we're doing the news reporting. Right. So we're actually being invited to the White House to have a seat there and really breaking news Health is now at the front seat seat. And everybody is so engaged and so excited. I feel like I'm a girl in the American. The American girl.

[Gary Breca]

I do too.

[Tereza Lally]

Yeah, the store, you know, when you go, all the dolls, all of the little things, that's what health is looking like. It's really exciting times right now. So exciting new era.

[Anthony Lally]

Yeah, very exciting. We're protective about, you know, who we onboard. And that's the main thing now. Once you're enlightened, you're you now you're like, okay, this is the solution now. Who do I work with? Yeah, that's the main thing. And we want to point people in the right direction. Now that you understand, this is the way. Here are the people that we feel are the best. And these are people we're working with because we built deep, solid relationships with all the practitioners, clients, like we're, you know, everyone in the film we love.

[Tereza Lally]

And the change starts with the education for us. That's how it happened. You can't unlearn what you've learned. So then just, just evidently your life goes that way. Your entire family follows you. Your friends, your family. I mean, the effect that you have on the people around you. So that's our goal for the audience. Like the education portion of it is important. Important and vetted information. That's why we have our peer review group. We don't bring snake oil salesmen. We don't bring products that don't work or CEOs that have incredibly horrible reputation in the industry. You know, we vet everybody. We have our allies all over the industry now implanted and another thing that we do, very special, is we combine these bubbles that we've noticed. So biohacking is its own bubble. Right. But then the women's health. Oh, my gosh. While we were filming S.H.I.E.L.D. we interviewed 80 experts. 80 incredible experts.

[Gary Breca]

Wow.

[Tereza Lally]

Women who are still menstruating at 62, women who are just living, vital, thriving. Why tell us the secrets? Because now 80% of women are struggling with autoimmune conditions. We're at the rock bottom. However, when you hit the rock bottom, there's just up to go. So it's almost a perfect cocktail with the new administration, the Maha movement, and our SHIELD documentary to really shine the light on women's health. Then we bring in the biological dentistry world, which has its own.

[Gary Breca]

Oh, my gosh. Dr. Gandhi.

[Anthony Lally]

Gandhi. Oh, my God.

[Tereza Lally]

But, I mean, he's the one that did mine. Yeah, I got it. Tooth. But that's how we discovered him.

[Anthony Lally]

I'm waiting on right here.

[Gary Breca]

My production manager's off camera now, going, I got a tooth from intel, but.

[Tereza Lally]

You get a tooth.

[Gary Breca]

You get tooth.

[Tereza Lally]

But it's fair that biological dentistry world has its own conferences. It's a whole separate division. And every biological dentist we spoke to, they all want to be a part of this biohacking world. So by doing this educational documentary on that, we're bringing it full circle.

[Anthony Lally]

And they're bringing modalities into their practices.

[Tereza Lally]

Yes.

[Gary Breca]

Which is amazing. The same. Yeah, the same modalities that we're using in the biohacking space, they're using to biohack the jaw. I got my root canal taken out.

[Tereza Lally]

Yeah.

[Gary Breca]

He cleaned it with red light. He ozoned into the. Into the socket, and he packed my own platelet. Rich fibrin. You know, the. The thick fibrin from your. Your. Your. Your platelets.

[Tereza Lally]

I love that.

[Gary Breca]

And, I mean, it healed well. I have no pain. Yeah, right. And I had two bad cavitations from two different root canals. And as. Whatever you want to call it, woke as I was. I didn't realize even the connection between, you know, the oral health and this is an oral hygiene. I mean, I'm talking about oral health. Everybody brushes their teeth or, you know, hopefully most of you floss. But this is actually those cavitations that come from childhood. Yeah, from childhood canal and wisdom tooth. And, you know, it's. It really is amazing to me because one of the things that I just felt this calling for when I was in the mortality space was I just had this sense that it was all wrong. And I was like, we Keep trying to convince people that disease and pathology are things that are happening to us, but they're actually happening within us. Right. You know, like if you. Every cancerous cell in the body was at one time a healthy cell, was a healthy lung cell, became metabolically ill, why can't something that was healthy that became ill become healthy again? We, we just make these assumptions like, well, it only goes one way or that all of this myriad of things is going wrong in the same person when really it's usually one thing that causes everything. And I think you guys have done a really good job at, at highlighting that. And I really want to encourage people to, to check out your platform. So now this media platform, you're going to be potentially at the White House. Yeah, I've actually been invited to some of those as well. I think they're. And I talked to Sean Ryan about it this morning too. And I think that they're really interested in having social media platforms.

[Anthony Lally]

Well, they made an announcement yesterday, the new White House press secretary who's the youngest ever.

[Gary Breca]

I love her.

[Anthony Lally]

I'm reserving this front row.

[Gary Breca]

She's a ninja that way.

[Anthony Lally]

I don't care if you're a TikToker, a YouTuber or this that you know, we want to hear you. We understand that the young and so we have young journalists too. We have Hannah, we call her our Megyn Kelly. Like so she also.

[Gary Breca]

I love Megyn Kelly too.

[Anthony Lally]

Yeah, she's the woman that has interviewed you a few times in some of the. And you know, she speaks for her community. She had her own transformational journey. She's there at the documentary filming and she's working with some of the practitioners and so she understands what the young group of a demographic is wanting and needing and can speak to that community.

[Gary Breca]

Hi guys. Gary here. I want to take a few minutes of your time to invite you to my ultimate human VIP community. This is a private community with front row seats to my most advanced health protocols, exclusive monthly Q and A calls, a private podcast where you can ask my guests and me your most pressing questions and my own personal wellness blueprints and everything you need to optimize your health. You'll connect with like minded folks in this community. You'll get firsthand access to cutting edge insights and enjoy special discounts on products that I trust the most. And here's the best part. Membership is just 97 bucks a month, a fraction of the cost my private clients pay for the same deep dive guidance. If you're ready to supercharge your Wellness and skip the guesswork. I'd love for you to join us. Head to theultimatehuman.com VIP that's theultimatehuman.com forward/vip right now to become one of my ultimate human VIPs. This is your fast pass to better health, so don't miss it. Now, let's get back to the ultimate human podcast. Well, I think that, I think the current president, and I don't think anyone would deny this, was elected largely by social media. Right. Going around the media and going right to people and big platforms like Joe Rogan and other ones. And, you know, some of my close friends, the Nelk boys, have been on Air Force One more than most. Most senators.

[Anthony Lally]

Yeah.

[Gary Breca]

And it just shows that they have a real interest in messaging directly to the people. And one of the reasons why I got on board with this Maha movement is because the excitement surrounding the possibility of being able to affect public policy. That's right. There's only so much your documentary can do, my podcast can do, my. You know, I have two and a half million followers or 2.2 million followers on Instagram. There's 371 million people in the United States. Right. It's hard to make a difference unless you come top down. And I think that for the first time, I'm really very hopeful about this. And just the mere fact that folks like yourselves, have a seat at the table, shows you that there's some intention to bring this to the masses.

[Anthony Lally]

The goal, what we're trying to do is create clear transparency from the health organization down. So right now, if you want to get a driver's license, you understand the protocol, you take the test, you have the five hour class, you take the picture, you take the road test, and then you get your. But if you wanted to advocate to get a product out there or make a change that your insurance company might cover, who do you talk to? Right, rfk. Yes, the Human Health Services. But who are the players? So we're really taking a. We're calling it health Casting. You have sports casting, right? This is the player. This is what they do. This is their job. Same thing here. We feel like now we have a shot to really start over and introduce people. Okay, Dr. Oz, what does he do? And how does that, what, how does that translate to your life?

[Tereza Lally]

Yeah, like, I'm personally humbled that government actually can affect my life, my children's life and my husband's life.

[Gary Breca]

Well, I can. But you're saying in a positive way.

[Tereza Lally]

In a positive way now, in A negative way they affected. Right. So the pandemic opened that up for me where it all became for me specifically to find that good leader and really support them, which is rfk, what he's doing and what he's done. And Del Big Tree. It has been incredible.

[Gary Breca]

Yeah.

[Tereza Lally]

And they've done it when it was dangerous. They've done it no matter what. For 20 years, this man woke up praying.

[Gary Breca]

Yes.

[Tereza Lally]

That. That he be put in a position where he can actually change and make America healthy.

[Gary Breca]

And I think he is too. Hopefully by the end of this podcast, we're gonna hear the.

[Anthony Lally]

Yes.

[Gary Breca]

But you know, I, I think too that when an industry of any sort, or. And I noticed this sometimes with podcast guests that I have doesn't like to be challenged. And that's a red flag for me. You know, when I'm on podcasts or stage talks or interviews, if I say something and you take issue with it, like, you know, I, I'm not a big believer in folic acid, for example. I don't think that we should be fortifying or enriching our food supply. And. But, but I can give you the whole rationale for that. I'm not just dogmatic about it and say, this is how it is. I noticed that when we push on these industries, food pharma, corruption in our, in our nutritional research and some of our public policy institutions, you know, they get very offended and very nasty. One one of the things that I love about RFK's approach is that he says, I'm not anti vaccine. I'm not anti big pharma, I'm not anti pharmaceutical. My life was saved by them. And at some point mine, Mine was too. You know, I, I severed my radio artery. Hadn't been for the docs in the emergency room, I wouldn't be having this podcast. So I'm a big believer in that. But when you just ask simple questions like, hey, have these been put through the same level of rigorous testing as other things have been put through?

[Anthony Lally]

Yeah.

[Gary Breca]

You're asking us to put it into children at a very early stage of life. Can we just see that it's been thoroughly tested?

[Anthony Lally]

Yeah.

[Gary Breca]

That's all. When you start to get pushback on things like that.

[Anthony Lally]

Yeah.

[Gary Breca]

That's when the red flag.

[Anthony Lally]

I look at it like this. Look, I don't care if you smoke a cigarette. That's your business. But the public should know cigarettes are bad for you.

[Gary Breca]

Right.

[Anthony Lally]

That's what he's saying.

[Gary Breca]

Yeah. We're not talking about impending freedoms and saying you can't drink soda, you can't vape, you can't smoke, you can't.

[Anthony Lally]

We just need to know the consequences. And people can make a conscious decision.

[Gary Breca]

Simple. There's something in medicine, you know, called informed consent. And an informed consent is you don't have to, you know, explain it in a way that a patient could conduct a procedure, but you have to explain it in a way that they can weigh the risks. Listen, we're going to put this into your child world. Here's what the evidence says, but in here are the risks. Yeah. Because I find that a lot of things we do in medicine, we are trying to stop a, a basically something that has virtually a zero risk.

[Anthony Lally]

Right.

[Gary Breca]

Like if you look at the, the chances of an infant catching hepatitis B, for example, before they're pubescent to your. Even teenage years, are virtually zero. They have a higher chance of dying in a motor vehicle accident on the way to school. Sure. So everything has a risk. Right. And, and so, but what are you not going to put them, not put them in the car to go to school? So when you explain it to a mother like that, they're like, wait a second, I, I thought this was something that, you know, he, they could get in the kindergarten classroom.

[Anthony Lally]

Yeah.

[Gary Breca]

There's actually no chance.

[Tereza Lally]

In fact, in kindergarten classroom, they had a mandatory class of explaining how HIV is transmitted.

[Gary Breca]

It.

[Anthony Lally]

Yeah. I mean, what.

[Tereza Lally]

The way I look at it, I.

[Gary Breca]

Want to bang this on my head.

[Anthony Lally]

I think the combination of Trump with rfk, you know, Trump is a business person. He understands the mechanics of business and what makes the world go around. And I think that there are companies and industries that are sick profiteers. And I think if you just want to be in the profiteer world, you can make money by providing healthy solutions because there's a bigger market that people will run for healthier options. It's out there. It's evident, right. People, people voted with their dollars. A lot of people voted for Trump because it came with an RFK health movement. And so if you can shift your mindset, look, you're a good business person. It's kind of like taking Pablo Escobar had he not focus on that aspect of. He was a great businessman.

[Gary Breca]

Yeah, yeah.

[Anthony Lally]

You know what I mean?

[Gary Breca]

He could have done a lot of good.

[Anthony Lally]

He could have done a lot more in the legitimate world. So there's legitimate ways that you can profit because there's a huge marketplace.

[Tereza Lally]

I mean, perfect example is Germany. And I hear so many great things about Germany, how they run their healthcare system. Right. Because government doesn't pay for sick care system. So they're the on the front end of homeopathic healing and biohacking discoveries. Have you been in Germany? Yeah.

[Gary Breca]

They don't profit. I mean, they don't privatize profits and socialize the expense like we do here. I mean, we have. We have to understand that we actually have an industry that relies on chronic disease.

[Anthony Lally]

Sure.

[Gary Breca]

And it's hard for people to understand that we've actually built a profit center around chronic disease when really we should try to extinguish chronic disease and it should be the least profit that we make. But it's one of the most profitable industries. So it begs the question, well, if the most profitable thing in the life cycle of a human is a sick child, the system is broken.

[Anthony Lally]

Yes.

[Gary Breca]

And needs to be fixed. So we talked a little bit about the documentaries and where the platform is going. And in a perfect world, what would this platform represent for you guys, my listeners that want to follow you or get involved, get information here? I mean, what are you going to serve up to the public in the next few years?

[Tereza Lally]

Well, biohack yourself is medical freedom is what we call it.

[Gary Breca]

Oh, I love that.

[Tereza Lally]

It's really medical freedom. It's liberation. It's really a platform where you can take charge of your health with some of the most incredibly inexpensive methods and modalities. Some of the natural modalities that we highlight in our documentary. Later on we write about them. We are very, very efficient with pushing the free modalities. And now with biohacking world growing so rapidly, almost every modality is becoming less and less expensive. I mean, there's hyperbaric chambers, high quality, good quality, almost five times less the cost. Right. Than it was like five years ago. So it's becoming more and more affordable and that's going to be the way of life. There's no doubt about it. People just needed an outlet to go to, to really educate themselves. People like you are doing an incredible job. And we're here to aid and join the forces because only together we can heal and make Maha happen. Yeah.

[Anthony Lally]

Yeah. And honestly, we want to really introduce breakout brands similar to what Rolling Stone did. Here's a new artist, here's a new sound. Well, here's a new modality. Here's a new practitioner, here's a new voice, here's a new podcast. So we want to be on the front lines of breaking that kind of news.

[Tereza Lally]

Can I tell you two things that blew my mind? Mitochondria trans transplant. I'm sure you haven't heard about that?

[Gary Breca]

No, I haven't.

[Tereza Lally]

That's a new thing. They're doing experiments with that in Mexico. Mitochondria transplant.

[Gary Breca]

Fecal transplant?

[Tereza Lally]

Yeah, fecal transplant. We heard that was like crazy, mind blowing. Then it's mitochondrial transplant. And now the new thing that we found out is biohacking your eyesight and biohacking your vision. The fact that your eyes are a portion of your brain and the fact that your brain development is dependent on your eyesight and your vision blew our minds. We interviewed somebody incredible and we can't wait to bring him to the forefront and help him open up clinics all over the U.S. wow. Yeah. He uses AI, he uses technology to really retrain your brain so you can actually retrain your brain to see better and then you can retrain your eyesight to get brain development. It's like chicken or the egg, both ways.

[Gary Breca]

That is incredible. You know, I, I, I, I would imagine that this mitochondrial transplant, you know, there's some experiments where they actually took young mice blood from young mice, infused it into older mice and the older mice got younger and the younger mice actually got older by switching their, their plasma was the impetus for Brian Johnson to change plasma with his son.

[Anthony Lally]

Right.

[Gary Breca]

And as controversial as that is, I mean I have no, no issues with it. But I, I, I've got to go down the rabbit hole of this mitochondrial transplant because mitochondria are our, we got 110 trillion of these in our body. We're 10 of our body weights, mitochondria. And my belief and a lot of other in the others in scientific community believe that aging is essentially the progressive decline in mitochondrial function. Right.

[Tereza Lally]

You can bank your mitochondria too.

[Gary Breca]

Well, we're having a great talk.

[Tereza Lally]

We just discovered this one on the.

[Gary Breca]

Ultimate human and teach me something I.

[Tereza Lally]

Didn'T know well, I was just taught about that by someone else on the cast. This is why we go deep. We find the best experts. Cuz they're doing things behind closed doors that you know, the most famous biohackers don't even know. They're, they're excited, but they're doing the work behind closed doors.

[Gary Breca]

It's such a blessing because I wake up every day with this childlike curiosity and I'm so excited to be like, I was excited for this interview. Now I'm even more excited about it because of things like this. Like what better thing to spend your time being curious about and intellectually curious about than just, just how do you live the healthiest happiest longest life.

[Anthony Lally]

It's just, you know, Dr. Mark Gordon, who's in Biohack Yourself, he was just on Joe Rogan for the sixth time. For the sixth time. And he mentioned his appearance in Biohack Yourself. He mentioned myself and Tereza and everything that we're doing. He mentioned the platform. And, you know, we receive phone calls from top, top research institutes and universities who are like, hey, we want our researchers to be contributors to your platform. We want our word out, we want the messaging out. We're the ones in the, in the labor creating the science. And we want to be able to speak to the community now. Whereas before they were kind of like shying away pseudoscience. They're like, no, this is where the eyeballs are. We want to be able to communicate what we're finding, our discoveries. And also the donors and benefactors want that kind of, you know, visibility as well.

[Gary Breca]

Yeah. Because usually the donor is donating because it was something that happened to them or a loved one that dramatically impacted their life. And now they've given millions or tens of millions of dollars, endowments to these projects. Obviously they're doing it to help humanity because they didn't want what happened to their loved one to happen to somebody else.

[Tereza Lally]

I can tell you one thing. Biohacking in this entire world of longevity is not only going to save lives and heal people, but it's going to save a lot of marriages.

[Gary Breca]

Yes.

[Tereza Lally]

Because we've been biohacking together as a family. We understand each other's health, each other's mood or each other's behaviors, and we just dig in, Right? Oh, maybe your thyroid is low. That's why this happened.

[Gary Breca]

Literally, that's why you're an asshole today.

[Tereza Lally]

You know, even our son, Our son understands periods and mood swings and he's only six. And he tells my, his sister, our daughter, love. He's like, love, when you get your period, I'm gonna be more forgiving. And these are conversations we're having.

[Gary Breca]

Oh, my God, that's the best. That's the cutest thing I ever heard.

[Tereza Lally]

So biohacking as a family, right? That's like a lot of families fall apart because they're growing apart into different industries, different careers, different lives. But this can be that one thing that anchors your family together. From kids to spouses, to mother in laws to aunts. I mean, imagine you're having a biohacking Christmas party with your family. Everyone can gather around a good Thanksgiving dinner and a good biohacking dinner.

[Gary Breca]

Yeah. Trust me, you saw my place it's just a giant biohacking. I love it. I was in the sauna till 11 o'clock last night with my son and my, my youngest. My daughter's a nurse, my middle son is a.

[Tereza Lally]

It brings you guys together, right?

[Gary Breca]

Oh, it brings us all together. And then when we, when we meet, we always talk about those kinds of things, like, you know, the food that we're eating, the supplements we're taking, you know, you know, my daughter will be like, look at this, dad. You know, I went to see this patient today and this is what they had in her cabinet. And this is the condition they're suffering from. It's, it's just so awesome to be on this journey with absolutely no more trauma. Bond.

[Anthony Lally]

Health Bond.

[Gary Breca]

Bond.

[Anthony Lally]

Yes, that's really.

[Gary Breca]

Well guys, this is amazing. First of all, and we're gonna take a few minutes and go go into my private VIP community because I told them you were coming on on and I always allow them to ask questions of my guests. So if you're interested in becoming an ultimate human vip, you can click the link in the show notes below and become one of my ultimate human VIPs and you'll get to ask questions directly to our guests. But otherwise I end all my podcasts by asking my guests the same question. So there's no right or wrong answer to this question. But what does it mean to you, each of you, to be an ultimate human?

[Tereza Lally]

Ultimate human to me is having it all. Whatever that means to me. To me, my biohacking starts with my pen and paper. It's been this way for the past 20 years. I start writing, whether it's emotional biohacking that I need to do, it's biological biohacking that I need to do. It's what I write on that paper and what I, I feel, what it is to me at that point in my life to have it all. So if at that time it means having a happy family, happy kids, my kids doing health journalism or whatever, right? That year's goals, that's being ultimate human at that time. And that's always changing, at least for me.

[Anthony Lally]

For me it's reverse engineering. So what the hundred year old Anthony would thank the 47 year old Anthony for the decisions that I'm making right now. That's really what I feel the ultimate human would be. And so there's a movie called Back to the Future. It impacted me because Biff goes back in a time machine, advises his younger self to do all the with the sports Almanac and changes the trajectory of his financial life. I feel like I can see into the future and really make decisions now that will impact me in the future and my sphere of influence around me. My family, obviously, sleep.

[Gary Breca]

That's amazing, man. Well, those are great answers, guys, so stick around. We're going to go into my ultimate human VIP community. And for the rest of you guys, until next time.