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Our bodies are miraculous. It's amazing what they can overcome and how it can heal itself. But that will run out. You will end up sick. You will end up miserable.
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Is it amazing how myopic and out of touch we've gotten with our own bodies? Because it signals to you. We often think that the things that we're allergic to are the ones that immediately flare up our nose or make our eyes water. But the truth is, you know, a lot of these things after we eat them. You get the bloating, the weight gain, the water retention. Those are signs that your body doesn't like what you're eating.
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And there's a reason why so many countries out there don't accept our food because it doesn't fit their criteria.
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You know what's interesting is the simplicity in food is where the magic is. And I think we over complicate food.
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I do believe that there's an energy to knowing and loving your food. I love cooking and I use good ingredients and I put love into it. And I do think that makes a difference.
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And I think fundamentally, most Americans want to be healthy, but truly just don't know where to start.
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It starts with caring about your food. Know what's in food as well. Learn how to garden. Learn how to love your food.
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What are some of the fundamental changes that you would love to see in our nutritional and healthcare guidance?
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I'm so grateful for modern medicine. I'm grateful for acute medicine. But I really think that health in general should be ultimate human.
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Hey, guys, welcome back to the Ultimate Human podcast. I'm your host, human biologist Gary Brecke, where we go down the road of everything anti aging, biohacking, longevity, and everything in between. And today, here from the White House, we have a very special guest on. I'm really excited to run this with you. It is Danica Patrick, former race car driver turned health advocate and part of this Maha movement. Blessed to be on board with you during this movement. I'm really excited to get into this.
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You're doing such great things. We were just rambling for 15 minutes.
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Yeah, we had an off podcast podcast talking about authenticity and the power of authenticity.
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I mean, I told you I've used the, you know, the statistic or study that you've shared that authenticity is 4,000 times stronger than love as a frequency. That is incredible. Like, that's just. This is, you know, what you're doing is making a big difference and those kinds of scientific things, because that's the thing. Like, we were also talking about the ineffable in a way. And the feelings and intuition. Yeah. You know, you're starting to put science to the things that are, you know, a little more mysterious or. Yeah.
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You know, I think we've always had sort of a. A fear of the unknown or how we dissuade the things that we can't prove. Things like faith and intuition and frequency and. And if you don't believe in the universal law of attraction, for example, which I didn't for years. Right. I thought it was just a bunch of, like, whoa, whoa. Nonsense. You know, it's like, yeah, go smoke some more weed, dude. But when you start to really break down the science of it. I actually was reading. This is way off topic, but a scientific journal on frequency. It's a physics journal, and there's a law in physics called constructive interference, and it says if two frequencies of equal wavelength meet, the size of the frequency doubles. And what it means is you can get energy from conversation. You can get energy from other people. They can also suck energy.
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Oh, this is welcome. What guides my life. I mean, I sucky bus, if you will. I mean, there are so many people here. And so I was making some jokes before about. I'm. I work very closely with Gabrielle Lyon, and she's my daughter.
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I love Gabrielle.
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Very good friend of mine.
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Shout out.
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And so she couldn't make it, so she's sending Don Layman here in her place, and she's like, look after Don. Introduce him to everybody. You know, help him, like, get in there to be able to make a difference and. And help out with some of the guidelines and whatnot. And. And. And Don said, well, I'm an introvert. And I was like, well, good. Me too. We can just. We just camp out in the corner and talk about wine and good restaurants in Chicago.
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Now you have, like, podcasts.
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I know, but I was like. And anyway, the point is, is that the wrong conversation drains me very quickly, and I have so much less tolerance for it now. But the right ones do energize me. I would call myself an introvert because I always get energy alone as a defining factor. But I absolutely. I have no doubt that these interviews that I have lined up here before we do this beautiful signing this afternoon, will give me energy because it's all stuff that's, like, so passion for. Such a passion for me, and I've lived it. Right. Like, you have, too. That's kind of what leads you down these beautiful, passionate routes, is that they're part of your life and you've needed them.
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At times, you know what's amazing is the rooms of the people that I'm in, people like yourselves. Some of the most, you know, I just sat and talked to Dr. Oz. Just some of the most passionate, purpose, mission driven people. And it is so palpable when you meet them. You see it in their eyes, you feel it in their energy. And there's an energy around here and around this Maha movement that I can't really explain. I call it the Holy Spirit. I just call it a palpable energy from a unified vision. And you can absolutely sense it.
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And it's, well, it's a collective, I mean, so like there's a lot of talk too about the frequency of the planet elevating once it reach reaches like a critical point. Or there's like the hundredth monkey theory where it's like once the hundredth monkey in a group believes the state knows a certain thing, it sort of transmits to everyone.
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Wow, I never heard that theory.
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And when you look at it like, here we are in this amazing White House set here and right, we're in the White House. Maha has not been a sanctioned or, it's not a. This is not a White House or a government program. This has been an independent movement that is now sitting right here because it has that passion that you're talking about and authenticity.
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Wow. And what?
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And authenticity.
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Oh, thank you. So I want, I want to run a couple things by you because these are sadly shocking and about the state of, you know, American chronic disease. In America, we know that we sadly are the sickest, fattest, most disease ridden nation in the world. We also are the highest spender on healthcare worldwide. And some of the public policy powerhouses that I've interviewed today and going to interview throughout the rest of the day are so mission driven at changing that. And I noticed that there's a narrative beginning to attack them, calling it pseudoscience, calling them chemophobes, saying that there's a personal agenda. But this report, which is going to be released at 3 o' clock today, I want to just read some things to you and get your thoughts on it. And this, this will be public in just a few hours. Over 1 in 5 children over 6 years old are obese. This is a 270% increase since the 1970s. The US obesity rate is more than double that of the other G7 nations. And 80% of obese teens remain obese through their adulthood. More than 1 in 14s have prediabetes, with rates doubling in just the last two decades alone. What do you think? I mean, as someone who has shifted from being a professional athlete, and that's not to say that you're not still a professional athlete, to being in the health advocacy space, what are some things that we can do from a public policy position, from an educational position, to lift the masses up and bring awareness to the masses and give them some tools that they can arm themselves with?
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That's a great question. And I think it really starts a little fundamental. It starts with caring about your food. It starts with maybe even growing some of your own food. Like, what stops schools from. Look, I think there's a lot of problems with school and the curriculum that exists. I don't use much of it. I'm glad I can read and write and that kind of thing. But so much of it, especially as it goes on, is kind of worthless, I feel like. But gardening wouldn't be right. Understanding food and really understanding nutrition, and that's some guidelines that are going to get redone. Let's hope. Let's hope that Surgeon General Casey means future Surgeon General will come and be push those things forward and you guys will be able to all help organize what that looks like. But for there to be a true understanding. So plug that into the schools, plug that information in, learn how to garden, learn how to love your food. Know what's in food as well. I mean, there's plenty of times that people I would think would know what's in food. They're like, oh, wait, there's no carbohydrates in chicken. I'm like, what? So educating on that stuff would be incredible because you can't expect the mass of these companies to not try and still make money and not try and still sort of push their agendas of what they want. But you can change from at the core of humans, awareness and knowledge, what they're willing to buy and what they're willing to do. So I think that if you buy habit shifts, that will help. I think that then when we get to sort of. I think maybe what some of that's going to be in that bill is just the quality of things, too. Like, you know, the soil and the quality of the seeds and all the different things and things that you add to it, whether there has chemicals in it or not, organic farming, no pesticides, I mean, that then becomes sort of the next phase of making it quality. But. But I do believe that there's an energy to knowing and loving your food. Like, I love cooking and people would say that my food's good And I'm like, it's not all that interesting. It's not always that exciting or complicated. But I use good ingredients and I put love into it. And I do think that makes a difference.
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I absolutely love you.
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If you love your food, you're gonna make good food and it's gonna be better for you. And then you're gonna. Energetically, you're putting that energy into it, and you're putting that energy into your body. So I think that's some of the stuff that could change from a culture standpoint, right? And then the government can just take control of, like, how it's all handled, because, let's face it, not everyone's gonna have a garden. Not everyone's gonna do that. But the stuff that you get in stores, it should be better quality. There should be. It should be a higher integrity to it all. I mean, there's a reason why so many countries out there don't accept our food, won't buy our food because it doesn't fit their criteria or even allow our food.
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They don't just don't buy it. They don't even allow it to be sold.
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I mean, exactly.
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There are countries like Russia that where it's a felony to grow genetically modified food. So, you know, when you have principles like that around food that don't allow these things to creep into the food supply, or you educate the populace, or you don't allow slick marketing campaigns to sort of wordsmith their way around detrimental ingredients, I think you have the foundation for.
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I think that Secretary Rollins, Brooke Rollins, is gonna do a great job. She was just over in the UK working on a deal with selling our, selling our meat to the United Kingdom, which they'll be happy about that because it's delicious. But also, I mean, I had a conversation with her even about going out to my winery out in Napa because it's organically farmed. And, you know, agriculture is very important and the quality of what it is is very important. So, you know, I think there's definitely things that government can do, but I think from a culture standpoint, it's about understanding what you're eating and loving that food.
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I mean, outside of mastering your craft and your, your career, how, how foundational was nutrition, exercise, sleep, what were some of the things outside of just the, you know, intentional mastery of your craft were really impactful on, on, on your career? Great question. What would you say were some of the non negotiables?
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Non negotiables? I mean, no drinking. I mean, that the, the, the, the the lack of sharpness in the next day after that kind of thing is. Look, I think it has some.
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It could risk your life too behind the wheel.
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Drinking and driving is bad, okay?
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And drinking and driving 200 miles an hour is even worse.
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But even the night before, you know, just. It can cloud your judgment, just make you a little foggy. I think hydration was super important. I wish I'd known then what I know now about hydration. I mean, I.
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Sea salts.
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I mean, I didn't. I like avoided salt in my food just like that being a propaganda that I bought into. And now, I mean, I salt beyond belief and I drink it all day. I mean, I drink elements all day long. It's always, always in my water. So hydrogen filling up. Yay.
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I got, I put them in every, every single.
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I bought these filters to put at the house that you attach. You can put them under the sink or you can attach them to a faucet, but they give you hydrogen water as well as other kinds of water as well. So. So I think that being hydrated is like probably the most important thing. And as far as food goes, you know, eating clean and good, but you want to eat as close as possible. I mean, I had a bus driver, so. And he would be in charge of making food for me before. Only meal he'd make was before the race. And that's just because I was at a driver's meeting. I was busy doing meet and greets and different things. And then I need to basically eat, get changed and go to driver intros. So I didn't have time to make it. So he would, and it would always be just kind of something simple like sweet potatoes or rice and chicken and something like that.
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You know, what's interesting is the simplicity in food is where the magic is. You know, I, I have a chef now too, and my wife loves to cook. And very often like the fewer ingredients you put in, like you take a ribeye, put it in some grass fed butter, throw some Baja gold sea salt on it, maybe some rosemary, like the best thing you ever eat. And I think we overcomplicate food. And you know, the industry is like selling us all these sauces with seed oils and we're putting seed oils on top of saturated fat and combining that with high glycemic carbohydrates and I think fundament. Most Americans want to be healthy and would prefer to eat nutritious food, but truly just don't know where to start.
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100% agree.
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And I think that we didn't run our way here, but we sort of walked our way into this position. But when you start to look at the national security risk of having three quarters of our military age men and women unable to serve in the military due to poor health, or when you look at 74% of our nutritional research being funded by farmer food companies, and I'm not immediately painting them as sinister, I'm just saying that you can't have private industry funding public policy initiatives because there's obviously an agenda. If I funded it, I would try to get my podcast. You know, somehow, you know, it's, it's just you have to take away that.
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Conflict of interest is never conflict of interest. It's never going to work out, you know. And similarly in indycar actually there was a big controversy with the team Penske. They were found to be illegal in qualifying. So they've been put to the back and now they've got huge penalties or. Well, Roger Penske owns a team, he also owns a series and he owns the track. And so you like, look at this and you're like, and I'm not saying that's why, but look, conflict of interest and optics matter, they matter.
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But what do they get put to the back for? There must have been something illegal.
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Having an illegal part. Yeah.
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Oh, really?
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A legal modification.
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Really? Oh, illegal modification. Okay. So, so, you know, I feel like this, there's a lot of hope and inspiration around this Maha movement within the administration because I certainly feel, and I wonder if you do too, that now our public policy leaders, these mission purpose driven policy leaders really do have the best interests of the American people at heart. And what are some of the fundamental changes that you would love to see that you would be a champion of in our nutritional and healthcare guidance for guidelines, wise guidelines.
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Well, I think the food pyramid is where you start.
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Everything needs to be.
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Everything just needs to be flipped upside down. Exactly. I'm happy to design it. I'd add some red wine in there. But you mean you don't believe that.
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Lucky Charms is more nutritious than grass fed steak?
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I mean, just that I thought, I.
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Mean the, the, the, you know, marshmallows first.
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That was that there was like a scale of like what's the most healthy and not. It wasn't a pyramid. But that when that came out last year, was that last year? I thought it was a joke.
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I thought it was a joke too. When Joe Rogan talked about it and I was like, no, this is legit.
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You have to be kidding me. You have to be you have to be an idiot to believe it.
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Yeah. But you know, sadly, I think very often, you know, it's, the consumer is not educated. I don't mean that they're poorly educated in general. We're not educated in school, in grammar school and we're not really taught how to eat. We're not taught about the fundamental basics of exercise. You know, you ever see the movies from the 50s where they just show recess during like Robert F. Kennedy, you know, his, his administration. It's like play find the fat person. You know, they were out on monkey bars and climbing walls and recess was 90 minutes.
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Oh man. Well, now you've got phones, it's a big problem. And you've got video games and things like that. And so it's, it's, it's, it's a sedentary activity which is not good.
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When, when you were a professional athlete, did you see that other, you know, athletes around you, did you see the ones that were hyper, intentional about their nutrition course, their exercise? And then you see some that were sort of, kind of took it for granted and just let you and.
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Yeah, yeah, I did, of course. Yeah, you saw the difference. And I'm not saying that their performance was necessarily. I mean, there were some great drivers that did not care at all about. They drank their Cokes and did their thing. I just think that there will be a long term payoff. Our bodies are miraculous. You know that better than anybody. It's amazing what they can overcome and how it can heal itself and correct and overcompensate. But that will run out. You will end up sick, you will end up miserable. And you can spend money on your health now or you can do it all later. And so you can go for the quality of life and spend it now and enjoy your food, delicious food, or you can be oblivious about it and go sit in a hospital because that's all you're gonna do because you're sick and you can't move or you need a hip replacement or whatever the consequences of your actions. And I think it's far wiser, obviously to take care of yourself now. Health should really be. I'm so grateful for modern medicine. I'm grateful for acute medicine. I hope that no one gives me like rosemary or lavender after I've been in an accident and have an arm hanging off. I hope they're not going to try and fix me that way.
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Exactly.
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But I really think that health in general should be understood from a cultural shift standpoint. This is a daily discipline. It is a Daily discipline to take care of yourself. And if you need modern medicine, God forbid, it's there for you. But this is not the solution.
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What are some of the non negotiable habits that you've developed either as a professional athlete that carry over into your life now or that you've developed, you know, post, you know, professional career that are sort of non negotiable in your life?
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I mean I'm just gonna be really simple. I could go down a long list of various different things I do. But I think from a simple standpoint, eat your protein and lift weights.
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I love it. I love it. You know I, I heard, you know, Dr. Gabrielle line is like, yeah, she's, I can hear her clapping in the background. I can hear her. We hear you, Gabrielle.
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I mean she's got me into the best shape I've ever been in my life.
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Really.
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43. Best body composition, best, best biology, best everything.
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You know what I think she's done?
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I always knew that was possible because I kind of got champion for a.
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Champion of women lifting weights, which I think was always a man thing.
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And I lift so much weight. Like, I mean I'm doing like weighted pull ups and huge trap bar deadlifts yesterday. And you know, I weigh 105 pounds.
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And you look amazing at pretty hard.
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To get, real, real bulky.
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Yeah. As a girl that was one of.
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The main tenth of the testosterone of you guys. You know, like it's pretty hard to get like super bulky. So yeah, I'd say from a simple standpoint those are the two most important things if you prioritize protein. But on my way here today, I flew here, I left the house and I made five eggs for breakfast. That's what I have for breakfast.
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Wow.
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Which is 350 calories. It's wow. 35 grams of protein. 35 grams of protein and 25 grams of fat. Done.
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Yeah. I feel amazing right now. Right. And you actually don't and, and you feel full but you don't feel bloated and drained. You know like a lot of times you put those high glycemic carbohydrates into your gut and you actually feel your mood, your emotional state and your energy goes, just goes right out the window.
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You always know what's good for you and what's not for a long time. I love figuring things out and learning about myself. And I did these blood tests that showed the eggs were highly reactive in my blood. So there was probably seven or eight years. I didn't eat them really. But they never made me feel bad when I did. And I was like, huh? Well, I'm following the science. I'm following the science. And now I eat three to five a day, and I'm the best I've ever been. But yet, on another note, let's say, like, I can eat broccoli and that's fine, but cauliflower seems to make me feel bloated. So, like, your body tells you what it needs, and it's very hard to make. Make a diet out of that. Right. We're all individually unique. So all I'm gonna say is that the best way to know what's meant for you is that again, this is actually parallel to what we talked about before we started, which is what gives you energy. Like people that give you energy versus deplete it. Like, if you eat a food and it gives you energy and helps you feel like your stomach does no discomfort, good for you. If you feel tired or bloated, not good for you. Just make it that simple.
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Isn't it amazing how myopic and out of touch we've gotten with our own bodies? I find that the more intuitive people are more intuitive also about their own bodies. I mean, because it signals to you. We all, we often think that the things that we're allergic to are the ones that immediately flare up our nose or make our eyes water or make give us the snivels. But the truth is, you know, a lot of these things after we eat them, you get the bloating, the weight gain, the water retention, the gas, the, you know, the cramping, the constipation. Those are signs that your body doesn't like what you're eating. And I. I completely agree with you. There's no one dogmatic diet that is.
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Good for everybody, because I tried them all.
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The blue zones proved this too. No dogmatic diet. It wasn't like, hey, everybody that was on keto or paleo or pescatarian or vegan or vegetarian, they lived the longest. No, it was actually the people that ate whole foods that actually were genetically compatible with their biome.
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So simple. We love to complicate things, don't we?
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We sure do.
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We're meaning making machines.
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Yeah. I want to move on to biohacking because, you know, I'm. I'm called a biohacker. I call myself a biohacker. I don't even really truly know what it means, but.
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Well, I mean, Dave Asprey came up with the term.
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Dave Asprey did coin the term. Yeah.
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He was hacking Your biology love Dave. You must know Dave.
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I love Dave.
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I love Dave so much. He's my favorite weirdo. Yeah, I'm a weirdo too.
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My favorite weirdo too.
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But he, you know, he was in tech. He was in tech, he was in computers and he was like fat and out of shape and tried to work out all the time and eat vegan and he couldn't figure out why he couldn't lose weight. And he's like, I need to like hack the body. I need a biohack. That's it. I mean, that's all it means. You're just hacking the body with biology, biological, natural options.
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So there are any biohacks that you use on a regular basis? Red light therapy, cold plunging, sauna.
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Yeah.
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What do you like or love?
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I mean, probably the most normal one I use is red light.
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Okay.
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And I like.
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Huge fan.
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A huge fan. I did it this morning, a panel at my mom and dad's house, which was where I was. I've got everybody read. They're here in D.C. they live in Indianapolis. So I flew in this morning. But they have two panels, one in front and one in back. I gave them. So just stand there and while I'm doing it, because I love to stack. Habit. Stack. Yeah, I atomic habits. I love to buy, I love to stack. I guasha while I'm doing it and do some lymphatic drainage. So those are the two, my two daily favorite things. Red light and lymphatic stuff. So. And what is this like where you like, you know, take like a. Like a crystal of some sort or it could be stainless steel, kind of like a face roller. It's like a face roller, but it's more of a plate. And you drag it and it helps like with drainage of your face. But then I go all the way down the neck to basically to here. Because I mean, it kind of started because when I said that I was not always so healthy. I had breast implants. And they.
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And you had them removed?
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Had them removed. And that's when everything finally got better again. Well, it was at least the start of it, but I. So I go literally down below my boobs. And then at the end of doing the gua sha, then I hit the six points, the lymphatic points behind the ear, collarbone, under the armpit, stomach, groin, and behind the knees. And so I just sort of rub and tap. And by the time that's over 10 minutes is done. In front of the red light.
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Yeah, some of these, some of these ancient Ayurvedic practices. You know, Ayurvedic medicine is the oldest form of medicine that we know of. It's even older than Chinese medicine, at least as far as we know. And it was based on observation. And a lot of what these Indian practitioners recognized was you could diagnose illness and disease through the tongue, through the eyes, the skin. And what they did was they, they really started to enhance lymphatic drainage. Exactly what you're talking about. Because the lymph system is static. Right. There's no pressure behind it like the heart, you know, like the veins and arteries. So I love the idea of habit stacking. Maybe you and I are going to trademark the term bio stacking.
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Bio stacking. I love that. I love that.
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Dave, your term's already outdated, buddy.
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We're going to build one. It'll be red light with a little. Maybe we'll, we'll have a little jump, a little tramp on the bottom. Because at the end I jump as well just to like really do the full flush. And yeah, we'll, yeah, we can come up with something, I'm sure. I love to dream up ideas and companies.
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I like that too. I want to take a quick one minute diversion and I want to go back to the, the breast implant illness because it is now being recognized as one of the underlying causes in so many forms of chronic disease and unknown etiologies that are causing autoimmune conditions. And I think what happens is a lot of young women especially get breast implants. And because the symptoms of breast implant illness don't show up for months to years, they don't correlate it back to the breast implant. And I'm not saying by any means that they're all bad and they're all causing disease, but as somebody who has a fairly large female audience, it resonates very much with them because I've had hundreds and hundreds of clients that have seen autoimmune and this strange myriad of symptoms. Everything from brain fog to hormone imbalance to weight gain and water retention to fatigue, to crushing joint pain, to a lot of these, what I would call blanket diagnoses. Irritable bowel syndrome.
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Fibromyalgia, anything.
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Yeah. Chronic fatigue syndrome, anxiety. What really are those?
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Anxiety, Exhaustion.
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What was the, what was the trigger for you when you said, yeah, how.
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Did I kind of identify? Well, I would say that it probably took about three years for me to really start noticing anything. And I, I had gained like five pounds out of nowhere.
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Were you highly athletic during this Time frame?
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Yeah. This is when I, like, just retired, too. And I'm like, that doesn't really make sense because I've kind of been doing all the same stuff. It's like, one thing. If you take away, like, a huge activity every weekend, 40 weeks a year, and go, well, maybe that's it. My hair wasn't doing so healthy. My face was starting to get more puffy, and I'm like, this isn't how my face looks. And I thought to myself, maybe my hormones are off. That was, like, the first thing I thought. But instead, I dug deeper and I tried harder, and I ate different, ate more vegan, ate less at times, worked out more like, you know, all of the things that I would Normally. The lever I'd pull didn't work anymore. And then it was when I was the beginning of 20, 21, and I lost my cycle. And so. And then when I lost my cycle, I was like, all right, this isn't healthy. So I went to the doctor, and they're like, low thyroid. And I was like, that answers everything. Yeah, that was not the answer to it. It was the tip of the iceberg. Right. And so that kind of started the journey. And I spent about a year and a half. And then I'd say it was probably when I watched enough videos on YouTube and caught these sort of people talking about breast implant illness and what happened, how they felt. And then afterwards, and I was like, the things that they were saying just resonated, right?
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You were like, those are my symptoms.
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I sense the authenticity coming off of them. And I was like, it resonated with mine. And I was like. It became like a knowing. I was like, okay, that's it. That's it. And so then I got. Then. Then I got them out. But I'd say at three years, I kind of knew about seven years before I really. Before I. Before I was like, okay, this is what I need to do. So I had them in for seven and a half years.
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You got him in for seven and a half years. And how quickly after the removal did, like, Right.
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As soon as I got home. As soon as I got home, I, Like, I met. Maybe my face is shiny. I'm not sure. But, like, that never happened. I came home, and the first thing, like, I remember once I finally came out of my drug haze from being under anesthesia, I remember just watching tv, and I touched my face, and I was like, oh, my God, I have oil on my face.
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Wow.
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And my scalp was another thing that had been so dry, and my Hair wasn't growing. So anyway, my body started to function again within hours. So then two days later, I posted on Instagram about it, which obviously I never told anyone. I got him in, and I just knew my mom was with me, and I was like, should I do it, Mom? And she was like, you're gonna probably do it anyway. I'm like, you're right, Mom. And so I shared it. And Good Morning America was at my house at the end of the week, six days after I got them out, Good Morning America was at the house with my doctor and I talking about it for morning television. Good for you for being vulnerable about that.
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For women that are watching this, that maybe are just starting to clue into this, that this might be. Is there anywhere they can go to get guidance or information or.
A
I mean, if you just look up breast implant illness, if you just sort of look. I mean, I have stuff that I've kept on my Instagram page about it, but there's a lot of resources out there now. Just, I'd say start Googling and youtubing and you'll see a ton. I shared my story so you can find that YouTube video. But, yeah, all I'd say is that, you know, you talked about the list of symptoms. It's anything. It's basically your own body's personal expression of, I'm not happy.
B
Wow.
A
Right. And everybody's different because we have different pathways, different detox detoxification pathways, different diets, different exercise. So, like, not everyone's is the same. So my personal expression was just how my body expresses discomfort.
B
Yeah. Danica Patrick, thank you so much for coming on the Ultimate Human. I can't believe we're here at the White House. You know, part of this Baha movement is amazing. It's such a blessing to be on the journey with great people and influencers like yourself. So thank you for giving us the time today.
A
Let's talk about that business idea.
B
Yeah. Until next time, that's just science.
Podcast Title: The Ultimate Human with Gary Brecka
Episode: 180. Danica Patrick: Shares Her Health Transformation After Removing Breast Implants
Release Date: July 3, 2025
Guest: Danica Patrick, Former Race Car Driver and Health Advocate
In Episode 180 of The Ultimate Human, host Gary Brecka welcomes former race car driver turned health advocate, Danica Patrick. The episode delves into Danica's personal health transformation, particularly focusing on her decision to remove breast implants and the subsequent positive impact on her well-being.
Gary and Danica discuss the essence of authenticity and its profound impact on personal and collective energy.
Danica: “Authenticity is 4,000 times stronger than love as a frequency. That is incredible.” (02:07)
They explore how authentic living aligns with scientific principles, bridging the gap between intangible concepts like intuition and measurable scientific phenomena.
Gary: “There's a palpable energy from a unified vision. You can absolutely sense it.” (04:45)
This segment emphasizes the importance of genuine interactions and shared visions in fostering a supportive and energetic community.
A critical discussion unfolds about the alarming health statistics in America and the role of public policy in addressing these issues.
Gary: “In America, we know that we sadly are the sickest, fattest, most disease-ridden nation in the world.” (06:05)
Danica highlights the necessity for foundational changes in nutritional education and healthcare guidance.
Danica: “It starts with caring about your food. Know what's in food as well.” (07:42)
They advocate for integrating nutrition education into school curricula, promoting gardening, and fostering a deeper understanding of food quality and ingredients.
Danica shares the non-negotiable health habits that have been pivotal in her athletic and post-athletic life.
Danica: “Non negotiables? I mean, no drinking. I mean, that kind of thing is... drinking and driving is bad, okay?” (11:32)
She emphasizes the importance of hydration and a protein-rich diet.
Danica: “Hydration was super important. I wish I'd known then what I know now about hydration.” (12:21)
Her disciplined approach to health includes precise dietary choices and regular exercise, highlighting the long-term benefits of such habits.
The conversation shifts to the complexities of modern diets and the benefits of simplicity in nutrition.
Gary: “The simplicity in food is where the magic is. And I think we overcomplicate food.” (14:08)
They critique the food industry's role in promoting unhealthy ingredients and the lack of clear nutritional guidance for consumers.
Danica: “If you love your food, you're gonna make good food and it's gonna be better for you.” (09:54)
Both agree that embracing whole, unprocessed foods tailored to individual needs leads to better health outcomes.
Danica introduces her biohacking routines that contribute to her overall health and vitality.
Danica: “Probably the most normal one I use is red light... I also do lymphatic drainage.” (23:21)
She details her use of red light therapy and gua sha techniques to promote lymphatic health and skin vitality.
Gary: “I love the idea of habit stacking. Maybe you and I are going to trademark the term bio stacking.” (25:24)
This segment highlights practical biohacks that listeners can incorporate into their daily routines to enhance their health.
A pivotal part of the episode is Danica’s candid discussion about her struggle with Breast Implant Illness (BII) and the transformative decision to remove her implants.
Danica: “I had them in for seven and a half years. And how quickly after the removal did, like, right...” (25:42)
She recounts the onset of symptoms such as unexpected weight gain, hormonal imbalances, and chronic fatigue that led her to investigate the link between her implants and her health issues.
Gary: “Chronic fatigue syndrome, anxiety. What really are those?” (26:53)
Danica explains how removing her breast implants resulted in immediate improvements in her health, underscoring the importance of listening to one’s body.
Danica: “As soon as I got home,... my body started to function again within hours.” (28:47)
This heartfelt account serves as both an inspiration and a call to awareness for listeners experiencing similar health challenges.
Danica provides guidance for women experiencing symptoms of BII, encouraging them to seek information and support.
Danica: “If you just look up breast implant illness... there's a lot of resources out there now.” (29:55)
She shares her own story on Instagram and encourages others to research and consult medical professionals.
Gary: “Danica, thank you so much for coming on the Ultimate Human.” (30:23)
This section empowers women to take control of their health by educating themselves and reaching out for assistance.
The episode wraps up with reflections on the importance of prioritizing health and the positive changes that come from making informed decisions.
Danica: “Health should really be understood from a cultural shift standpoint. This is a daily discipline.” (18:41)
Gary: “Until next time, that's just science.” (30:50)
Listeners are left with actionable insights and a deeper understanding of how personal choices and systemic changes can significantly impact overall health and longevity.
Danica: “Authenticity is 4,000 times stronger than love as a frequency.” (02:07)
Gary: “In America, we know that we sadly are the sickest, fattest, most disease-ridden nation in the world.” (06:05)
Danica: “It starts with caring about your food. Know what's in food as well.” (07:42)
Danica: “Hydration was super important. I wish I'd known then what I know now about hydration.” (12:21)
Gary: “The simplicity in food is where the magic is. And I think we overcomplicate food.” (14:08)
Danica: “Probably the most normal one I use is red light... I also do lymphatic drainage.” (23:21)
Danica: “As soon as I got home,... my body started to function again within hours.” (28:47)
Danica: “If you just look up breast implant illness... there's a lot of resources out there now.” (29:55)
Holistic Health Approach: Emphasizing the importance of nutrition, hydration, and authentic living as foundational pillars for health and longevity.
Public Policy Impact: Highlighting the need for systemic changes in food education and healthcare policies to combat the rising tide of chronic diseases in America.
Personal Empowerment: Encouraging listeners to listen to their bodies, seek knowledge, and make informed decisions about their health, as exemplified by Danica Patrick’s journey.
Biohacking Benefits: Introducing practical biohacks like red light therapy and lymphatic drainage that can enhance overall well-being.
This episode serves as a comprehensive guide for anyone looking to optimize their health through both personal habits and broader societal changes, all while drawing inspiration from Danica Patrick’s profound transformation.