272. Garry Lineham "Human Garage": Fascia, Stored Trauma, C-Sections & Leann Rimes Release

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Podcast Summary: The Ultimate Human with Gary Brecka

Episode 272: Garry Lineham "Human Garage": Fascia, Stored Trauma, C-Sections & Leann Rimes Release
Release Date: May 26, 2026
Guest: Garry Lineham (Human Garage)
Host: Gary Brecka
Notable Guest Co-host: Dr. Justin Marchegiani

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Overview

This episode takes a deep dive into the world of fascia—the body’s “superhighway”—with Garry Lineham of Human Garage. The conversation centers around how fascia contributes to physical performance, stores trauma, the impact of birth (particularly C-sections) on lifelong health, and practical, accessible approaches for self-healing. Garry shares his unconventional background, his viral work with Leann Rimes, and explains why he gives his methods away for free. The episode is a blend of biohacking, healing philosophy, and personal transformation.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. What Is Fascia? (00:00–15:01, 15:34–23:13)

• Fascia as the Connective Superhighway:
  Garry and the hosts discuss fascia’s all-encompassing presence. It is not only the tissue that binds and surrounds organs, bones, muscles, and nerves, but also organizes metabolite transport, electrical signaling, and trauma storage.
  • Quote [00:00] – Garry Lineham:
    "There's only one thing you can't remove from the human body. Fascia. If you can't remove it, that would indicate that we are it."
• Beyond Structure:
  Fascia is seen as an energy field (about 6 feet around the body), influencing physiology, emotion, and even hormones.

2. Garry’s Backstory: Pain, Prison, and Purpose (02:52–08:26)

• Solitary Confinement and Transformation:
  After tech industry success and subsequent imprisonment (27 months, with 17 months in solitary), Garry meets a neuroscientist cellmate. This real-world, intensive education leads him to an embodied understanding of pain, healing, and the limitations of conventional medicine.
  • Quote [05:02] – Garry:
    "If I could have killed myself, I would have multiple times, but I had no tools. ...I prayed: God, if you help me out of this, I'll spend the rest of my life helping people never, ever, ever have this pain."
• Birth of Human Garage:
  Garry and his wife, Vanilla, begin working on people in their Venice, CA garage, focusing on fascia, attracting celebrities, athletes, and eventually starting a movement.

3. Fascia and Trauma: Storage & Release (13:07–23:13, 26:54–30:46)

• Trauma Is Not 'All in the Head':
  Trauma is stored in the body’s fascia, not just the brain. Garry proposes trauma forms a triangle: incident, emotion, and story. The body holds the unresolved loop.
  • Quote [13:46] – Garry:
    "You can cut everything out of the human body... There's only one thing you can't remove: fascia."
  • Quote [23:13] – Garry:
    "We found that we had to remove the memory of that [trauma] in the body. Think about it as a computer... memory is actually in the body, it's a feeling."
• Self-Release vs. Practitioner Dependency:
  Garry insists on empowering clients to release physical and emotional tension themselves, avoiding dependency on practitioners.

4. Fascial Maneuvers: How and Why? (21:10–23:13, 33:02–36:17, 41:29–42:55)

• What Are Fascial Maneuvers?
  Simple, repeatable movements, often involving counter-rotation or self-hugging, designed to decompress fascia and recalibrate the nervous system.
• Resetting Stress:
  Techniques like the "15-minute stress reset" can lower stress markers and induce euphoria.
  • Quote [33:51] – Garry:
    "It drops 75 to 90% of the stress in the human body."
• Movement-based, not Stretching:
  Fascia release is performed without threatening the joints (unlike deep stretching), thus not triggering the body’s alarm systems.

5. Case Studies and Viral Moments

• Leann Rimes’s Jaw Release (02:06–02:22, 37:08–37:17):
  Garry’s work with singer Leann Rimes garnered three-quarters of a billion views in 10 days, making fascial release a cultural talking point.
• Children, Trauma, and Scoliosis (45:35–47:40):
  Stories include reversing severe trauma-induced dysregulation and correcting scoliosis (up to 22 degrees) in an hour.

6. Birth Trauma & C-Sections (49:24–53:16)

• C-Section Mechanics:
  Birth via C-section disrupts the cranial molding process, which impedes blood flow to the prefrontal cortex and is linked to long-term issues—ADHD, anxiety, hormonal imbalances.
  • Quote [49:45] – Garry:
    "8% are medically necessary. ...But what we've noticed in a C section is the frontal bone... when we do the C section release, that slope automatically changes its architecture...and there's a trauma release."
• Simple Interventions Make Large Shifts:
  Garry describes manipulations that shift cranial bone alignment, resulting in physiological and emotional improvement—sometimes rapidly noticeable.

7. Philosophy: Giving It All Away (35:32–38:06)

• Free Access Model:
  The Human Garage method is almost entirely free; funding comes from donations, some products, and community support. They reach ~1.5 million new practitioners monthly, relying on sharing/word-of-mouth.
  • Quote [35:32] – Garry:
    "95% of everything we have is free. I don't take a salary. I don't own a home. ...What we ask in return is to share it with other people."
• Community Over Commerce:
  Garry’s decision is rooted in personal frustration with medical dependency and the belief that healing belongs to everyone.

8. Daily Integration: Biohacks and Anti-Stress Practice (38:06–42:55)

• Practical Tips:
  Integrate fascial maneuvers daily—even a single 3-minute movement between tasks can lower cumulative stress.
• Supplemental Hacks:
  Hydrogen baths, red/infrared light, grounding, and breathwork are all recommended but not essential to benefit from the method.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Self-empowerment:
  "If you did it at my hand, you're always gonna believe your nervous system that I did it. ...But if you are the one participating... you can go do it all by yourself. You don't need me."
  — Garry Lineham [26:54]

• On Trauma Release:
  "We have to have all three of those involved in removing a trauma: the incident, the emotion, and the story. And when the circle completes, the body seems to be the last one—that’s why everybody’s moving towards embodiment programs."
  — Garry Lineham [23:40]

• On the Community-driven Model:
  "We believe in the principle that the community will support the community. ...That comes back to, you know, naturally, people do want to help people. They just need a way to do it."
  — Garry Lineham [36:17]

• On the Ultimate Human:
  "To be balanced between my thoughts, my emotions, and my actions—because when I'm balanced... I show up in my best form, whether it's physically, emotionally, or perceptually."
  — Garry Lineham [55:35]

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Important Timestamps & Segments

• [00:00] – Definition and philosophy of fascia
• [02:52] – Garry’s prison story and pain origin
• [08:14] – Human Garage origin story
• [13:07] / [23:13] – How trauma is stored and released from the body
• [21:10] – Fascial maneuvers and performance optimization
• [33:02] – Self-application of fascial maneuvers: stress reset
• [35:32] – Free access model and community philosophy
• [41:29] – Integration with daily routines for anti-stress
• [45:35] – Children, C-sections, and trauma case studies
• [49:24] – Mechanics and implications of C-sections
• [55:35] – What it means to be an ultimate human

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Action Points and Resources

• Try Fascial Reset:
  15-minute stress reset is available free at humangarage.net and their YouTube channel.
• Join the Community:
  The Human Garage is open to all, with almost all resources available for free.
• Watch before/after and demo videos:
  Especially recommended: Leann Rimes jaw release and scoliosis reversals.
• Learn more:
  Find Human Garage on any social platform—note they were banned from TikTok due to controversial mineral discussions.

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Episode Takeaway

Fascia is likely far more influential than most realize, operating as a bridge between physical health, emotional wellbeing, and trauma. Empowerment through self-release techniques—grounded in both anecdotal evidence and rapidly growing community adoption—offers a path away from dependency and toward authentic, daily practice of ultimate health. As Garry Lineham suggests, balance between thought, emotion, and action is at the heart of being an "ultimate human."

Transcript

[Gary L.]

You can cut every tendon, nerve, bone, eyeball. There's only one thing you can't remove from the human body. Fascia. If you can't remove it, that would indicate that we are it.

[Dr. Justin Marchegiani]

I never have viewed the fascia the way that you view it. This connective tissue you view as a super highway for everything from minerals, vitamins, amino acids, nutrients, to the delivery of signals to a place where we actually lock up trauma.

[Gary L.]

So what we're doing with fascial maneuvers is reducing the friction. And when we reduce the friction, all those muscles, tendon, nerves, bones, everything organizes and works better. So that changed my belief system of how to get performance out of the body.

[Dr. Justin Marchegiani]

It does inherently make a lot of sense. That fascia that's connecting everything, which is also a communication system. When it gets stressed that there's some kind of communication pathway that's interrupted there. And I think people can benefit so much.

[Gary L.]

But if you just have minerals and you move your body like fascially, things get better no matter what it is. So, in other words, it's within the reach of everybody.

[Dr. Justin Marchegiani]

For somebody that's watching this, what are some basic things that they could do to address their fascia?

[Gary L.]

Well, what we did for you is you don't start off with a problem. You start off with. Foreign.

[Podcast Host]

Hey, guys, welcome back to the ultimate human podcast. I'm your host, human biologist Gary Breca, where we go down the road of everything anti aging, biohacking, longevity, and everything in between. And today is one of those in between podcasts.

[Dr. Justin Marchegiani]

I don't know if I would put it in the biohacking, longevity, anti aging category. I'm not sure which category to put it in, but it is massively impactful. I have both experienced it and benefited from it. So has my wife, Sage. And also, this is a first in ultimate human podcast history to have someone named Gary on the podcast. So welcome to the podcast.

[Gary L.]

Gary L. You're the original Gary, because you're one r. I'm two R. Gary's.

[Dr. Justin Marchegiani]

Yeah. Okay, so.

[Podcast Host]

But still, first Gary that I've had on the podcast.

[Gary L.]

Yeah, that's. That's interesting.

[Podcast Host]

From a human garage.

[Dr. Justin Marchegiani]

And I think a lot of folks have seen you online. I think the Leanne Rhymes adjustment that you did, the fascial release in her jaw, which also released locked trauma, went unbelievably viral.

[Gary L.]

Crazy.

[Dr. Justin Marchegiani]

Three quarters of a billion views in 10 days. Congratulations for that.

[Podcast Host]

And you know what I love about

[Dr. Justin Marchegiani]

this platform is that I get to think. I mean, I get to sit in front of guests that are trendsetters, some that are way outside of the norm. Like the thinkers, the doers, the. Sometimes they're PhDs or MDs or, or, or researchers that have all of these qualifications. Sometimes they're just somebody that solved a problem in their life.

[Gary L.]

That's me.

[Dr. Justin Marchegiani]

Yeah. And I know you solved a big problem, right? Yeah. Not many people want to ever solve that problem. But, you know, you were, you were in solitary confinement for 17 months. 17 months.

[Gary L.]

27 months. Because I, I encrypted data. Long story short, I encrypted data for the governments and. Well, for everybody. And a lot of government contracts and contacts are using it. And I decided that I didn't like what was happening. So I, I basically said the government spying on you, which everybody kind of knows at this point. And then I.

[Dr. Justin Marchegiani]

We're well aware of that. Yeah.

[Gary L.]

But back then, nobody was. In 2005 and they came in full force. They gave me two indictments, one as a drug dealer, drug dealer. Well, because they were using my encrypted BlackBerries to, to peddle drugs, you know what somebody was. And so they made me a part of that conspiracy. And, and so 17 months in solitary confinement without going into all the details, that's where my life changed. I had been in the tech business. I had built software. Amazing, incredible things that I'd done in my earlier career, like the first, early blockchains, we sold technology to Boeing to do identity and authority. Like the first legally binding signature on the Internet. Voice over IP encrypted technologies on the cutting edge. But my body was getting worse as I was going from previous injuries and I finally just crashed. And when I went to prison, it was, that was the end of it. I'd spent two and a half million dollars, 300 practitioners up to that point. And I was getting worse.

[Dr. Justin Marchegiani]

And then you went into prison and your, your cellmate was a neurologist or a neuroscientist.

[Gary L.]

Yeah. And a chiropractor who became a neurologist.

[Dr. Justin Marchegiani]

Yeah.

[Gary L.]

And what did he do, by the way, at that time? Seems like a good dude and. Sure. And at that time it was called insurance fraud. You weren't allowed to pay for a marketing agency to, to get you a client per head so you could pay a marketing agent, but you can't pay, you know, $500 per lead.

[Dr. Justin Marchegiani]

Okay.

[Gary L.]

And, and everybody was, the government decided to make examples of everybody. And I was at this particularly low point. I was in the most pain I'd ever been in. I was in a 10 out of 10 pain. If I could have killed myself, I would have multiple times, but I had no tools.

[Dr. Justin Marchegiani]

And what was the pain coming from? Is this musculoskeletal pain, muscle emotional pain.

[Gary L.]

I was a bodybuilder, fell under a heav, had a couple car accidents, eight concussions. So it was physical pain, it was emotional pain, it was ptsd. And I was managing it as I was moving along, but now I have no tools. And this is where the journey started, because as long as I could manage it, I could kind of get through, but now I couldn't. I was laying in there in a 10 out of 10 pain. And I'm not a. I definitely wasn't a praying guy, but one day I was crying and I was. And I was. I was literally breaking down. I said, I prayed, I said, God, if you help me out of this, I'll spend the rest of my life helping people never, ever, ever have this pain. And an hour later, my cell door opened crack. And then in comes. And I thought something that's usually not a good sign. Just so you know. Oh, yeah, they're going to do something to you.

[Dr. Justin Marchegiani]

Right.

[Gary L.]

And they stuffed this old guy in and he was a chiropractor who became a neurologist. And he. For the next 14 months, he. First of all, he adjusted me right away. And I had 24 hours a day for 14 months of somebody teaching me and talking to me and talking to me about the body. And I'd learned a lot because I'd already been studying, trying to solve my own issue. But this is what put that pin in. It allowed me to actually take all those things that I learned and put them into some sort of practice.

[Dr. Justin Marchegiani]

So you're in there for seven.

[Gary L.]

Well, not 17 months, 27 months total with him. Well, 14 months with him.

[Dr. Justin Marchegiani]

Wow. 24 hours a day, basically seven days a week. You get to be.

[Gary L.]

Yeah, I mean, it's pretty good education.

[Dr. Justin Marchegiani]

Yeah.

[Gary L.]

Because the guy's scared, his life's changing and he has nothing. He just wants to talk. And I'm just listening and listening, watching, understanding. It's. It's a very compressed education.

[Dr. Justin Marchegiani]

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, you get. Well, I mean, I think most education comes from the real world experience. I mean, very little, I think, of what we learn in textbook translates directly into real life. I think you prove that you can follow a set of rules and you can complete assignments on time and you're reliable and you can handle a certain workload, I think. So that kind of sieve is, is, is excellent. And the educate. I'M not knocking the education, but when you emerge, I mean, you get your real world experience in the real world.

[Gary L.]

Yeah, for sure. If you, you take a look at somebody who spent, you know, five years studying about medicine and. But he's never done a surgery. Right. But he knows everything about it. Or you have somebody who's done 10,000 surgeries, but which one do you want to work with? You.

[Dr. Justin Marchegiani]

Right.

[Gary L.]

The old surgeon or the new one? And there's a, you know, just like in your life and what you've done, it's trial and experience, end of one science. Right. And when the need is great enough, we just step in and do it. And if it worked for me, maybe it would work for you. And that was the whole thought process around it.

[Dr. Justin Marchegiani]

Yeah. So you get out and eventually this leads to you starting something called the human garage. Yeah, I love that term, by the way. I think that's really cool. Like, you know, we park a lot of valuable things in our garage. We don't think about parking ourselves in there.

[Gary L.]

Right.

[Dr. Justin Marchegiani]

So I think it's a great name. I don't know what gave the rise to it.

[Gary L.]

Well, we were in Venice, California and my wife Vanilla and myself, we actually started doing therapy in the garage and we moved into an apartment and we. At that time I was still part of a previous clinical practice that I was working with. I was in the garage trying to figure out the solution and we were working on people and we would work on, literally we would work on people from 6am till 10pm at night. We took all the furniture out of a two bedroom apartment and we just started seeing people and what was happening, which you could only do in Venice, California. We had like celebrities like Brandon Roth and Kitty Lotts and DC comic heroes. We had all these athletes and celebrities who had found us because we were experimenting and trying stuff and it worked. And LA is just that vibe. You couldn't do it here.

[Dr. Justin Marchegiani]

I mean, only in LA can you open a practice in your garage, fresh out of prison and be successful.

[Gary L.]

That's exactly.

[Dr. Justin Marchegiani]

I'm like looking at your marketing campaign. Felon fresh out of prison opens practice in his garage.

[Gary L.]

Right.

[Dr. Justin Marchegiani]

I can't see it being flooded with people, but no, it's your. Your trajectory has been amazing. We run in a lot of the same circles. And one of the reasons why I was intent about having you on the podcast is because, first of all, I had never experienced anything directly until today, which was phenomenal. And I'll post the. I'm going to put these videos into the into the podcast notes. And I really encourage you to watch those because I have had a lot of very intelligent, very impactful people sit in that seat right there. But none have been able to make the kind of change that he was able to make anatomically on me in five minutes. I mean, literally fixed a, I mean, decades old flat arch that I had in my foot. 5 year old shoulder rotation issue that I have done. Acupuncture, dry needling, physical therapy, shockwave, pemf, high intensity pemf, red light hyperbarics, I mean, you name it. I have access to all of those tools and all of those practitioners. And you realigning the fascia.

[Gary L.]

Well, actually, I want to step in there for a second.

[Dr. Justin Marchegiani]

Yeah, you actually did it. Yeah, you taught me how to do it.

[Gary L.]

That's the point.

[Dr. Justin Marchegiani]

Yeah.

[Gary L.]

The point was, is that when I was in pain, I no longer wanted to feel helpless. Even in my own clinic, if I would work all day, I would get adjusted three to five times a week by some sort of therapy in my clinic. But there's some days I'd go home at night and I'd be in pain and I have to wait till the next morning. I would literally be thinking about the next morning, waiting for a chiropractor or therapist to come in. I'd have it all planned, slip in the schedule before anybody else and get it. And my mind was obsessed with trying to feel okay and, and I, but I felt guilty and I felt helpless because I had to depend on somebody else. And all that time that you spent with really good people and it's not diminishing their work, it's something that you can do yourself. And if you do that yourself, they can go on to help at higher level issues.

[Dr. Justin Marchegiani]

Right. Well. And so I want to take this conversation back to the fascia because I went to chiropractic college. I graduated from National College of Chiropractic. That's where I got my second degree in biology. I got a four year degree in human biology. I never practiced as a chiropractor, by the way.

[Gary L.]

I didn't know that.

[Dr. Justin Marchegiani]

Yeah, yeah. National College of chiropractic in Lombard, Illinois. Yeah. And great.

[Gary L.]

I went to the school of prison chiropractic.

[Dr. Justin Marchegiani]

Yeah, yeah, I prefer mine, but yeah. But you know what?

[Gary L.]

What?

[Dr. Justin Marchegiani]

They did an extraordinary good job. And national is known for. This was anatomy, you know, physical anatomy, gross anatomy. We had nine hours of cadaver anatomy a week for almost two years. I mean, it was, it was highly, highly, highly focused around the details and, and anatomy. So I have a fundamental understanding of fascia and connective tissue and ligaments, tendons, bones, joints, what, what have you, you know, very strong understanding of, you know, spinal anatomy. I never have viewed the fascia the way that you view it. This connective tissue you view as a super highway for everything from minerals, vitamins, amino acids, nutrients, to the delivery of. Of signals to a place where we actually lock up trauma.

[Gary L.]

Sure.

[Dr. Justin Marchegiani]

I think, I think myself included and probably the vast majority of people watching this podcast think trauma is in your head.

[Gary L.]

Right.

[Dr. Justin Marchegiani]

I'm not saying trauma doesn't exist because that term gets used loosely to say, oh, it's all in your head. And that's a, that's a considered derogatory. I don't mean it that way, but it is somewhere in your brain. Y and therapy or drugs or what have you and IASA trip is, is there to unlock that. But philosophically, you believe that the body also stores trauma in the fascia.

[Gary L.]

Yeah.

[Dr. Justin Marchegiani]

And I'd love for you to maybe even just give us a basic understanding of what fascia is.

[Gary L.]

So fascia, it's interesting because from a biological standpoint, it's a connective tissue. It connects everything. We used to think it was around everything and connecting it, but it actually goes through it. So I'm a problem solver, systems solver. So technology is one of my things. When you want to find a bug in a system, you go to the origin, the creation, the kernel, and then you see how it's used. So if we go to the creation of a human, we start looking at the body a different way. When a baby's born, there's a ball of plasma and there's two nerve clusters. And those two nerve clusters are connected by a string. And no doctor or scientist, anybody can tell you which one until the seventh week. Which one's going to be the small intestine, which one's going to be the. The brain. So it's interesting. And then the heart forms the heart and the small intestine in Chinese medicine are connected. So then the whole muscle skeletal system grows around it. So what is that stuff, that plasma? I consider that to be your fascia. So we're grown in fascia. And then since you've done a lot of dissections, think about this way. You can cut every tendon, nerve, bone, eyeball, everything out. You can cut everything out of the human body. There's only one thing you can't remove from the human body fascia.

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[Dr. Justin Marchegiani]

Now let's get back to the ultimate human podcast. It's too embedded.

[Gary L.]

If you can't remove it, that would indicate that we are it. And then take a flip side. So that's the mechanical side of it, the medical side, the scientific side. But there's a field of energy that, that. That exists around us. We can see it with thermography, we can see it with Karelian photography. We can measure it from space with satellites.

[Dr. Justin Marchegiani]

Wow.

[Gary L.]

So that field of energy is around 6ft. And heart math talks about it. There's. There is a. A field that radiates.

[Dr. Justin Marchegiani]

We just found a pilot in Iran.

[Gary L.]

Yes.

[Dr. Justin Marchegiani]

Based on a technology that could read his heart signature. That's right through the field. Yeah. And the Pentagon was very disappointed that that actually made it out into the

[Gary L.]

public, but, yeah, that's a good example.

[Dr. Justin Marchegiani]

Yeah.

[Gary L.]

So what is the mechanism, how powerful it is when somebody walks in a room and you feel they're angry, like even they walk in, it's like, whoa, and you turn around. What gets your biology to turn around? Something is informing you. It's not an odor or pheromone or a chemical reaction in your body. Something informed you to take an action or you duck all of a sudden when something's thrown at you and you're not even aware it's there. You see, baseball players go like that sometimes and catch something.

[Dr. Justin Marchegiani]

Yes.

[Gary L.]

So there's something that extends past the body, that informs the body, usually in moments of safety. And that I consider that to be the field of the fascia that's informing your nervous system how to act. And I also want to give you another thought. So for me to think about it this way, I had to reorganize the body. I had to take it apart, put it back together another way. So I looked at it and said, well, look at your bones, which are supposed to be our structure. None of the bones in the body touch except for the teeth, the ribcage, and in the ears. Any other bone touches, you're in pain, bone on bone. So if the bones aren't touching, then what is the structure? Because structure has to touch. So take the knee, for example. Here's your knee joint. You got one muscle, crosses it about that big. What holds up the knee? It's not the muscle. The bones don't. They're not touching. Can't be the muscle. The meniscus will tear. So the only two things you're left with is connective tissue and skin. So what if connective tissue was a structure? And if that's a structure, then bones, tendons, nerves, organs exist in that structure.

[Dr. Justin Marchegiani]

Yes.

[Gary L.]

And then we found out in 2017, in the middle of the clinical practice, because we had this belief system, but we didn't know how to talk about it. We found out that the fascia has a brain called an interstitium. That interstitium is millions of times more receptive than our human brain. Tens of millions, hundreds of millions. So this is where it starts to get messy, because it crushes on the current belief system of how our bodies are organized. So I reorganized the body and said, well, what if fascia was the key component? And what if it did everything? And could I prove that? And anecdotally, I'll tell you right now, there's not a lot of science behind what we're doing. It's happening right now because we have somewhere between 50 and 80 million people doing this every day right around the world. And we have millions of doctors that prescribe it every day. Practitioners doctors, chiropractors, massage therapists, even down to emotional therapists. So there has to be something there. And it's working, but we're still learning the language of why it's working. But what we do know is we know that if we compress the fascia and we counter rotate it, which we were doing with you earlier, which was

[Dr. Justin Marchegiani]

incredible, by the way, immediately, I. Again, I'm going to put the videos in the podcast. And I'm not making this up. You know, I wouldn't pay you this compliment if it didn't actually work for me in real time. It corrected my. My posture. I have a torn bicep tendon. I talked about a lot on the podcast and struggled with for a long time. It corrected a arch in. In my foot and corrected my hip. And just walking around afterward, it felt immediately better. My wife said the same thing. Sage.

[Gary L.]

And also extremely energetic.

[Dr. Justin Marchegiani]

Yes. Oh, yeah. Like, I don't want to say euphoric, but clear and wide awake and, and just alert. Like my brain turned on all of a sudden. No question.

[Gary L.]

So this is where this is where we were going. Because originally this, this thought process we used in our clinic was with all these super high elite, like Olympic level athletes like Tyson Gay and Andre Ethier. And now you've got guys like Novak Djokovic and stuff like that using these, this thought process. And still, again, it's still new. We know it works. We're learning why it works. But. But what if the, you know, the current thought of how to make the body perform better is to pour more on, more power, more performance, more. More hormones, more. What if instead of pouring more on, we just reduce the friction?

[Dr. Justin Marchegiani]

Yeah.

[Gary L.]

And so what we're doing with fascial maneuvers is reducing the friction. And when we reduce the friction, all those muscles, tendon, nerves, bones, everything organizes and works better. And so that changed my belief system of how to get performance out of the body.

[Dr. Justin Marchegiani]

Yeah. And the way that you get performance out of the body and see some of these results is, is by realigning it. Like, you know, I. I've done Rolfing, I've done myofascial release, I've done all of these different, you know, modalities to align or release the fascia. And, and very often they've been. They've been successful. I know that when it folds over on itself, it can restrict mobility, and if you lengthen it, you can restore that mobility. I think chiropractors generally do that.

[Gary L.]

Yeah, I mean, they definitely do.

[Dr. Justin Marchegiani]

But what I find really fascinating about your work is that you believe that it is much more than connective tissue, that neural communication is happening through this connective tissue, that hormone regulation, that emotional regulation, and that you can unlock things like stored trauma from the fascia. And I've seen it so many times in, in your videos, and I know so many people that I hold in high regard that have experienced it with you, that I tend to believe it, even though I don't understand the mechanism. Right.

[Gary L.]

And I'm thinking I don't understand it.

[Dr. Justin Marchegiani]

That drives me crazy too, because, you

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know, it's like a human biologist, I, like, I have to know the why. You know, before I got in a

[Dr. Justin Marchegiani]

red light bed, I mean, I read about the cytochrome C oxidase dissociation of mitochondrial nitric oxide. I went deep down the rabbit hole of mitochondrial respiration. But it inherently makes sense to me because I'm familiar with, you know, how my collapse starts, led to a medial knee pain, led to lateral hip pain, led to anterior shoulder pain. Sure, Right. And I understand this biometric chain, and some people might not accept that if my foot collapses, my shoulder hurts. But that's how it works. And this works in the spine too. But to go a layer deeper and say there's. There's more than just structure and stability here. There's communication, there's hormones, there's emotional trauma, there's all kinds of things in this fashion. I wonder if you might just touch on that.

[Gary L.]

Sure, let's, let's go to the trauma angle for a bit. So what is trauma? When, when I started in clinical practice, people would, I'd say there's trauma. And they go, I didn't go to war, I wasn't.

[Dr. Justin Marchegiani]

Yeah, a lot of people say that too. I wasn't abused as a child. I don't remember anything. I grew up in a, you know, I didn't have an alcoholic parent or abusive parent. You know, that's, I think what we think trauma is, right?

[Gary L.]

And in today's world, well, except for our kids, our kids are like, I got trauma from you saying, oh yeah, yeah, triggered.

[Dr. Justin Marchegiani]

Now, Gen Z, you're screwed. Yeah, you guys are soft. I'm just so, just kidding. I got four of them, so I better be careful.

[Gary L.]

So the, the, the idea of, of trauma from my point of view, and I'll just share what I found to be true for myself is that you have an incident, something that happens, physical, emotional, perceptual. We know it doesn't really matter at this point. That can create a trauma stored in our system. So we got an incident, we got an emotion. That's about it. Anger, fear, shame, guilt, sadness, something. And then we have a story that we talk about it, we tell ourselves. So think about it as a triangle. And currently in removing trauma, we go to a therapist to tell a story, try to tell a new story. And I do. But then all of a sudden I get somebody triggers my emotions and boof. I'm back to the old story. Or I go do emotional reset, yell and scream and punch things, and I feel really good. But then also my body's in pain and my hormones go up. My brain then start to tell a story again. So what we found is that we had to remove the memory of that in the body. So think about words that we use phonetically, like to remember, right? So we memory think of the body as a computer and the brain not as a computer. The brain is a processor. It runs programs, and if it can't figure out the program, it just keeps running. That's the circular thoughts. That's not an intelligent action. That's an unintelligent Action. It keeps trying to. Trying to figure it out, even if it can't forever and ever and ever. So then if the body is a computer, think about the word remember. If you were from a biological standpoint, you dismember something, you'd be cutting the body in pieces. If you're to remember, you're pulling the pieces back together and then perceiving them or looking at them. So I believe the memory is actually in the body. It's a feeling, and it's associated with a feeling. And then we tell ourselves a story about that feeling, because somewhere along the line, that can change. And this is what happens when somebody has trauma. Like they were abused. I was sexually abused by parents. And somewhere around 53, I had an emotion come up while I was doing fascia work. And then I literally was able to tell myself a new story and a pattern that was in my system I didn't even know was there, just changed. It was like my life changed. And we found that we have to have all three of those involved in removing a trauma. And what is a trauma? Again, it's really just an incident that's stressful that I can't resolve. The circle doesn't complete. And when the circle completes, the body seems to be the last one. That's why everybody's moving towards embodiment programs, right?

[Dr. Justin Marchegiani]

Yeah, very true. And. And where did you gain this fundamental understanding on how to train people to release that themselves? Because again, what I. What I'll give you credit for is you. You didn't put me in these positions. You had me put myself in these positions, and I. And I released it myself.

[Gary L.]

There's a couple things about that. So be. Be a practitioner who's worked on tens and tens of thousands of people. What I know that if I. If your. If your body gets the relief from a movement that's a chemical release in your body, like relief, you're going to get serotonin, oxytocin, dopamine's gonna.

[Dr. Justin Marchegiani]

I got it. Yeah.

[Gary L.]

Now, if you did it at my hand, you're always gonna believe your nervous system that I did it right. You're always gonna seek and crave my hand to do it, which is very, very addictive. And it also creates a dependency between a practitioner and a patient. But if you are the one participating in it and I'm just assisting you, it changes the relationship in our nervous system. It seems to. That we have some hand in doing it. We're a part of it. It's like teaching somebody. I don't do it for them. I help them. I get them to do it or help them. So it's like teaching your body or your nervous system how to move through that and then the belief is there. And if that belief is there, then you can go do it all by yourself. You don't need me.

[Dr. Justin Marchegiani]

And what I will say is I've had plenty of adjustments too. And, and this was not like having a, a, a cervical spin maneuver or a low back, you know, spin maneuver or even like a traction kind of adjustment. There was no cracking, There was no, there was zero pain. It actually felt kind of good, you know, that kind of stretching pain that, that actually has a little bit of pain, but it's got like the good kind of pain. Like, you know, when you're stretched out and then when you stop, you feel better.

[Gary L.]

Exactly.

[Dr. Justin Marchegiani]

That's what I would like in it too. Pain never went above a 2. Yeah, but the relief was a 10. Yeah, which, which I found, you know, fairly gentle intervention for a pretty demonstrative outcome.

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[Gary L.]

So in mechanics, in performance, the least amount of input for the greatest result. And that's like I look at things from System point of view. I'm very practical, driven, like an engineering mind. I didn't, I'm not an engineer by trade, but it doesn't mean I don't have the mind that works like that. That the least amount of input for the highest gain is what the body wants because the body wants to participate. And if I do too much, the body just goes, okay, you got it, I'm going to go over and do something else.

[Dr. Justin Marchegiani]

Yeah. So along this, this journey you, I mean I know that this has been a, a learning curve for you because you didn't step out and gain this knowledge. What was the thing that surprised you the most? What was that like Perry Mason moment? Well, tada moment.

[Gary L.]

They, it came out when we were in clinic. We were, we were trying to, I was trying to figure out how to help myself. I was like literally in the shower one night in pain after working on people all day long, you know, 15 people a day. I'm not feeling good. I'm in the power and I'm, I'm heads down, have my hands behind me. It's our movement called anti gravity today. And I was trying to stretch out an area of my back and at that moment I was down in the shower and the water's trickling down on me and I had like a psychedelic cathartic memory that wasn't really a memory, it was more like a witnessing of something. And I can't really explain it other than that moment is where I knew that the answer to my issue was not through the hands of somebody else, it was through my own hands. And that was the wake up. And then it turned into a couple movements that we would give to people or pro athletes to help them. We found that if we could counter rotate because you noticed we're doing this counter rotation, counter rotation seemed to do this. And again, we didn't know why. And I have a belief about it today and I'll tell you everything I'm telling you right now, I have a belief about and I have a story about it. But I'm completely okay if everything I say to you today is bullshit.

[Podcast Host]

I hope not.

[Gary L.]

Because in five to every year I'm learning more every day. So in five years we're going to look back at that and go, man, that was stupid. But it allows us to have a conversation about it. And so what it feels like is happening is that counter rotated. Hugging yourself is actually a fetal position. And it looks like a fetal position. And it seems that cells have memory. We have a lot of science to Say that. And it seems like when we're in that position, they know how to reorganize themselves. That's what it seems like.

[Dr. Justin Marchegiani]

Yeah. So you have these different positions. For somebody that's watching this, maybe they think this is. Sounds hokey. But for somebody that's watching this, what are some basic things that they could do to address their fascia or. Or even address tight spots on their body? Because everybody watching has something. Knee, hip, shoulder, rotator cuff, low back, cervical something.

[Gary L.]

Well, what we did for you is you don't start off with a problem. You start off with something global to decompress the pressure that's in the fascia. So what we've noticed is that pressure impedes performance, whether it's a muscle performance, a nerve performance, any kind of performance. If you have dysregulated pressure in an area, it impedes that performance. Like your elbow swells up, all of a sudden you can't move it. So fascial maneuvers, in the global sense, decompress the body. They seem to move pressure around the body in a way that the body can recalibrate. We have a 15 minute stress reset, and you can go do that in 15 minutes. The first seven to 10 minutes of that 15 minutes, it drops. No matter how you measure it, it drops 75 to 90% of the stress in the human body.

[Dr. Justin Marchegiani]

Wow.

[Gary L.]

And you feel it because you felt it out there?

[Dr. Justin Marchegiani]

I felt it immediately, but I'm not a high stress person. But.

[Gary L.]

But the other version of not having the stress is the euphoria that would.

[Dr. Justin Marchegiani]

That I definitely felt.

[Gary L.]

Yeah. So more alertness when I'm. When I'm not stressed, I have more. I have more alertness, more command of my environment around me. And so what we found is that if we could get somebody, instead of doing a whole practice and learning this and learning all the different possible ways.

[Dr. Justin Marchegiani]

Yeah, the anatomy and everything else.

[Gary L.]

Start off with 15 minutes, do a stress reset. It resets your shoulders, your hips, your back, your spine, your neck. Your whole nervous system gets reset in that first 15 minutes. If that works for you, do it

[Dr. Justin Marchegiani]

again the next day.

[Gary L.]

And if it works for you, do it again and again. And what we found is that when we add just that into everybody's routine, things change very fast. And then if you want to go down a rabbit hole, there's all kinds of resets. Every body part you can imagine, every condition you can imagine. Like with Leanne, we were having her open up her vocal cords so she could sing easier, you know, all the way down to all the way down to, like back when I worked with Tommy Armour. That one that you did earlier, it's called Swinger.

[Dr. Justin Marchegiani]

It looked like I was about to swing a golf club. Yeah.

[Gary L.]

It was invented for me trying to help Tommy Armour the golfer.

[Dr. Justin Marchegiani]

Yeah.

[Gary L.]

And so these are all things where you can go specific if you want, but we recommend that you start off globally and start off something very simple, something that you can repeat the action.

[Dr. Justin Marchegiani]

So these are, by the way, can I put a link to this in the show notes?

[Gary L.]

Sure. Ok.

[Dr. Justin Marchegiani]

So everybody will get this for free and they'll be able to go through this 15 minute.

[Gary L.]

Actually, that's a. That's something that we don't talk about all that often, but 95% of everything we have is free. I don't take a salary.

[Dr. Justin Marchegiani]

I read that about your philosophy.

[Gary L.]

I don't take a salary. I don't own a home. I don't have credit cards. I don't have a driver's license.

[Dr. Justin Marchegiani]

How do you get on an airplane?

[Gary L.]

Oh, I use a passport. Ah. I have a passport and a birth certificate. So what do you need? And for me, I wanted to step outside. And the point about it was, is I found a solution. And we are currently growing by about a million and a half people a month right now that are practicing and it's growing like wildfire. Because what we ask in return for doing it free is to share it with other people. And that's why it's this worldwide phenomena, the growth of it.

[Dr. Justin Marchegiani]

Right.

[Gary L.]

It's because people are helping people. And I think that comes back to, you know, naturally, people do want to help people.

[Dr. Justin Marchegiani]

Yes.

[Gary L.]

They just need a way to do it. And so, yes, almost everything. And what we do is we sell some supplements, we have some guided programs that you can donate. In our programs, most of the guided ones are pay what you feel. Right. Pass. $1. Pass. $250. Pass. $1,000. And the idea is we believe in the, in the principle that the community will support the community. And. And because of that, I believe that's why we also have gotten a lot of good press, because we're doing things that would truly help people.

[Dr. Justin Marchegiani]

Yeah. And when you decided that I'm just going to give this all away through this ripple effect, which I love, because I started platform, it's very hard. I started my media platform with the sole intention of giving without the expectation of receipt.

[Gary L.]

Right.

[Dr. Justin Marchegiani]

And as soon as you package information or go to give something, you immediately have an expectation of receipt.

[Gary L.]

That's been.

[Dr. Justin Marchegiani]

There's always an Issue. Yeah.

[Gary L.]

So today free costs us $500,000 a month. So we have like 70 people. We've got thousands of volunteers all around the world. We've been on a world tour. We did in the last two years since I even saw you, I haven't been home. And we've done 13 countries, 36 cities, 85 events between 510,000 people. And we were out there on this mission just to get it out there. And the reason why it was free is because I spent millions and millions and millions of dollars trying to solve my own issue. And when I could solve it myself, I was just angry at the system that was teaching me that I needed somebody else. So at the time, I'm like, no, I'm gonna make it free to everybody. But we had to learn along the way how to balance that, how to receive as well. And so that's been part of the

[Dr. Justin Marchegiani]

journey, is, yeah, I'm gonna try this 15 minute, the reset. Because what you did for me in five or ten minutes had such a profound impact in a short period of time. It would be astounding is if this was a mechanism to de. Stress the body, to help people go from that sympathetic fight or flight state into that parasympathetic rest and digest state. Because there is clear evidence, very clear evidence, that when you are stuck in that sympathetic state, that fight or flight state, which the vast majority of us spend way too much time, our autonomic nervous system spends too much time in that state. But when you're stuck there, chronic stress, poor sleep, poor diet, you know, overworked, just too much on your plate, too.

[Gary L.]

Too.

[Dr. Justin Marchegiani]

Type A. If you want to say that this has direct impact on our immune system. It has a direct impact on our emotion and our emotional intelligence, meaning how well we're able to regulate how we react to things, other people's actions and our mood amongst a whole host of other things. And, you know, I use breath, work, morning, morning light grounding, you know, in some of the biohacking modalities. But breathwork, sunlight, grounding, those are same thing, daily stables for me.

[Gary L.]

For me. Hydrogen, sun, red light or sunlight?

[Dr. Justin Marchegiani]

Hydrogen. I love that.

[Gary L.]

Hydrogen. Hydrogen bathing.

[Dr. Justin Marchegiani]

Yeah, I have a hydrogen bath in my.

[Gary L.]

Yeah, I carry a machine around me. I travel.

[Dr. Justin Marchegiani]

You do.

[Gary L.]

And red lights. I carry the hydrogen tablets that'll be use every day.

[Dr. Justin Marchegiani]

And that's the inhalation machine that. Right.

[Gary L.]

Yeah. It stops protein folding issues in the body.

[Dr. Justin Marchegiani]

And it's. It's a structured water kind of mist.

[Gary L.]

It is, but it literally reorganizes the proteins inside the cell. So it's way more powerful than, than it looks, what they say.

[Dr. Justin Marchegiani]

Right.

[Gary L.]

So I believe in, I believe in things that impact us like you do. Environment, water, light, sound, and, and I incorporate those with, with our team daily. Those are just things that, that are just a part of how we live our life today.

[Dr. Justin Marchegiani]

Yeah, I mean I, I, those are what I call passive biohacks. Right. If you upgrade your lighting, your water, your, your mattress, your air filtration, those are things that you do once and then they kind of serve you without taking more time from your day.

[Gary L.]

Yes.

[Dr. Justin Marchegiani]

Everything else that I do, hyperbarics, red light, sauna, those, those all you got to find time in your day to, to fit those.

[Gary L.]

Sure.

[Dr. Justin Marchegiani]

But, but what is amazing, and I talk about this all the time, is nothing makes me feel better than putting on a weighted vest with my wife and going for like a 3 1/2 mile loop in the mountains in my, through this woods and yeah. Over these rocks that my wife and I do in Colorado at about 10,000ft. Every time I get back, I just feel like, I don't know, I've had this spiritual awakening or took a limitless bill.

[Gary L.]

True.

[Dr. Justin Marchegiani]

You know, or just the, the, the lights are just on and I'm in a good mood and I don't feel this impetus to immediately do something. As soon as I land back in Miami, it's like that fire lights again. And you know, it's like the productivity, you know, demand kicks, kicks back in. And I think people can benefit so much by just drawing their attention and making a part of their daily routine. Things that can alleviate that stress and maybe shift them out of that parasympathetic state.

[Gary L.]

Yeah. And you do breath work. So the difference is think about this as intention, breath work, movement all in one simple quick movement. And in order to get people to adopt it, it had to be quick and simple. And you don't have to even do the whole 15 minutes. You do one of the movements like you did the very first one and all of a sudden, whoa, I feel it. So if you only had three minutes and you did that in between your appointments, you would infinitely be better at the end of the day because stress, as you know, is accumulative and our body accumulates the stress. And then over a period of time, that 28 day cycle, what we found is the stress habit cycle is 28 days. And we have a 28 day reset where we take people through online and we get them to do a little bit each day. And on the 28th day, everybody has a cathartic drop because they disrupt that habit cycle, because we get stressed throughout the day, then we go to sleep to remove it. And the body constantly saves the energy for that stress. We didn't give you any energy tablets or anything, but you had more energy after that. That means that what I believe is that we took away restriction in your fascia. Your body says, oh, I need less energy to move, think, walk, talk, breathe. So I'm going to give you that energy back in the form of an enhancement. That's what it appears to be doing.

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[Dr. Justin Marchegiani]

Now let's get back to the ultimate human podcast. Yeah, and, and I think that low level chronic stress is one of the most debilitating things to our cellular biology.

[Gary L.]

Absolutely. Like, so we have all of the people doing everything right. This is a very common thing. I'm, I'm taking all the supplements, eating all the food, doing all the things right.

[Dr. Justin Marchegiani]

Me, I'm one of those.

[Gary L.]

And, but you're going, but you are accelerating your health. And some people are coming up against the wall and say, oh, I'm doing everything right, but I still don't feel good in my body. You know, I measure okay, but I don't feel good. I don't feel emotionally good. Because one of the things you felt is euphoric, felt emotionally different. That, I believe, comes through this method of taking stress out. Because a normal stretch creates a stress spike in the body. And when adrenaline hits, when adrenaline, norepinephrine hit your blood, it takes four hours for that to abate or to go. When you do a fascial maneuver, there's no stretching and the Reason why is stretching of a muscle threatens a joint, so your body goes, whoa, wait a second here. Am I okay? And a maneuver doesn't actually stretch or create a threat to the body, so it relaxes rather than stress spikes and relaxes. And that's why I believe. I mean, we've done lots of our own anecdotal science on this, and at some point we'll publish, but. But that's why I believe it works.

[Dr. Justin Marchegiani]

Yeah. Well, it does inherently make a lot of sense. You know, that, you know, fascia that's connecting everything, which is also a communication system when it gets folded incorrectly or it gets stressed or it gets too tight, that there's some kind of communication pathway that's interrupted there. It's like when I first started learning about the oral cavity and. And I had a biologic dentist map all these routes from the brain into the body. It made perfect sense. Why. Yes, different anomalies in the teeth could affect things in the body, and there's

[Gary L.]

an emotional consequence with each one of those.

[Dr. Justin Marchegiani]

Yeah. So in your journey, what would have been, like, some of the most profound stories? Leann Rimes was the big one.

[Gary L.]

I mean, we. We have a lot of them documented. But I. I love to focus on the children the way I had. I had one. A doctor brought a child to us for our reality TV series called behind the Real that's coming out soon. And we. She had been her. Had. The child had had this extreme sugar regulation issue, and extreme. And there was.

[Dr. Justin Marchegiani]

Couldn't regulate their blood sugar.

[Gary L.]

Yeah. And they were giving him medication that made the kid hairy and. And he looked like a werewolf almost. And. And what happened? He had. There's trauma in the birth. So we had that. As we were talking about the C section. We removed the pressure in the frontal cranial bone through the practitioner version of these fascial maneuvers. And his blood sugar stabilized and has never come back. So things like that. We have a lot of people that have Parkinson's that were shaking and all of a sudden walking better and not shaking anymore. And those are all, like, on videos. But the ones that really turn me are the ones that are the children, because you think about it, they're going into a system where they're told that there's no answers. And, you know, a kid with scoliosis, and you can look on our. On our YouTube, you could see me reversing a scoliosis up to 22 degrees in one hour. Wow. And so we do. We do that live in stream because no one would believe it. If I told you right, so we, so there's things like that that seem unreal, but it's unreal because of the way that we look at the human body. I look at the body differently. I have a different belief system. And these things are all compartments of that. And, and I, but it's the children. You impact a child's life. And I, I think every time, if I had that when I was 13, when I went into physical trauma, then what would my life be like today?

[Dr. Justin Marchegiani]

This is almost like a way that you can micro release trauma on a daily basis so it doesn't become cumulative.

[Gary L.]

That's what happens. That's what we're, that's why, that's why our 28 day reset is so powerful. Because people within the 28 days, they'll come out of that and they'll go. It's like I went on a, like a psychedelic experience, I went to a shaman. But they did it by themselves at home. And we, you know, we, we also want people to hear this, is that if you can't, there are a lot of times we can't get supplements like the ones that I gave you earlier. But if you just have minerals, you have silica, what we found to be deficient in everybody through thousands of hair follicle tests and 102 minerals and you move your body like fascially, things get better no matter what it is. So in other words, it's within the reach of everybody. And if you have the ability to buy more, do more, you can. Like the supplement I gave you earlier?

[Dr. Justin Marchegiani]

Yeah, that felt great.

[Gary L.]

It's unbelievable. And what it does is it takes out inflammation of the fascial tissue specifically

[Dr. Justin Marchegiani]

and what's in it.

[Gary L.]

It's the third curcuminoid called bisdamoxic curcumin, which appears in nature like an ORAC rating on Curcumin is 9,500 on this product, clinically patented and clinically trialed, it's 500,000. And so what we do is take the active ingredient, bisdamoxic curcumin, we push it back into the supplement. So chemically copy it, put it back into the natural source of it, which is curcumin. So there's no side effect because the body doesn't see it as something different. And it's at 30%. And then we put a little BDNF in there and it instantaneously pops up your brain and your body's ability to perceive like the athletes, like Novak, when he gave to him, he Said I could feel my edges. So my field.

[Dr. Justin Marchegiani]

Right. I want to go back to the C section discussion for a second because we had a really interesting discussion at lunch today before we came on the podcast. And you were talking about some of the reversible detriments of, of C section. You know that 38 of children are born to C section, but only 8% of those are actually in America and

[Gary L.]

some, some countries it's like 50 to 60%.

[Dr. Justin Marchegiani]

Wow. And I, I don't want to, you know, poo poo any obgyns. I mean, a lot, a lot of C sections may be medically necessary, but doing them for scheduling purposes.

[Gary L.]

8%.

[Dr. Justin Marchegiani]

8% are medically necessary.

[Gary L.]

Medically necessary. 38 in the United States, up to 50 and 60% in some countries. So it doesn't really matter why. There's a lot. There's a rabbit hole of why we do them. Placenta. And the value of the placenta, it changes its value and how it's. How it. The. Like there's less, less bacterial overload. It's cleaner when it comes from a C section. Surgically removed it. So the placenta is worth more.

[Dr. Justin Marchegiani]

Right.

[Gary L.]

That's. That's one thing.

[Dr. Justin Marchegiani]

Right.

[Gary L.]

But without going down the rabbit holes of that. There's, there's a. There. We know about things like the microbiome and all these things have been talked about, but the mechanics of it is when the head goes through the birth canal that cones and it naturally, the baby head cones and then settles. That allows the nine cranial bones, the sutures in between. It allows them to sit properly so that they move. Our bones are all supposed to move, like our cranial bones, to respirate. But what we've noticed in a C section is the frontal bone. When you take a look at it from a side, there's a slight slope to it. And when we do the C section release, like on a kid, that slope automatically changes its architecture and they have this euphoric experience. Usually a lot of crying at first, but especially with kids, there's a trauma release and an increase of blood flow to the frontal lobe, which is measurable. And anybody wants to do it, they can. And there's lots of people that are already doing this. There are doctors. So this is what's really important, is that if that body, if that baby doesn't go through the birth canal, the mechanics of it is that adhesion in that cranial suture and then the lack of blood flow which creates or leads to or shows things that we've observed that people that have C sections have higher incidence of adhd. Um, they have anxiety, depression, eating disorders, digestive disorders, hormone regulation.

[Dr. Justin Marchegiani]

And you don't really correlate those back to lack of oxygen in the prefrontal cortex. You correlate them to all sorts of other things. So we end up going down a rabbit hole that doesn't have a solution.

[Gary L.]

Yeah. And if you're. If your cranium's compressed, oxygen has to flow through tissue and it's like anything. If I squeeze your arm, eventually less oxygen goes there. You can see it'll start turning colors.

[Dr. Justin Marchegiani]

Right.

[Gary L.]

Well, if our cranial bones can't move properly, less oxygen is going to move

[Dr. Justin Marchegiani]

through the head even after those sutures in the skull are fused and you can still manipulate them and open space in the prefrontal cortex area.

[Gary L.]

So what we found, I mean, if you go onto our social media and you see the, the hundreds of thousands of before and after photos, you'll see a change in the height of everybody.

[Dr. Justin Marchegiani]

My wife got a half inch taller today.

[Gary L.]

Yeah. Yeah. And. And you could see the change in her face.

[Dr. Justin Marchegiani]

I saw it just by correcting her lord dotic and kyphotic curves, I imagine, but.

[Gary L.]

And it corrected her structural alignment, T symmetry, her face, her. The shape of her forehead changed all of that. So what. The experience of that, what we've noticed experience is increased perception, increased lack of stress going down. Emotions seem to be calmer and more regulated right away. And she noticed that immediately.

[Dr. Justin Marchegiani]

She did, yeah. And I saw the side by side pictures. We'll put sage up there. I always pour sage under the bus. Every podcast. I'm like throwing my wife under the bus.

[Gary L.]

Yeah. Because it's, it's significant. And that happened in 30 minutes.

[Dr. Justin Marchegiani]

Yeah. I'm gonna throw this before and afters on there because I think, I think it's important to, to talk about. So for my audience that wants to find out more about you, where do they find you?

[Gary L.]

I think the best place to start today is if you want to do something, go to our website, humangarage.net or just type in Human garage anywhere. We're on most social platforms. We have almost every social platform we got kicked off. TikTok.

[Dr. Justin Marchegiani]

How did you get ticked off? You pissed off the Chinese?

[Gary L.]

I don't know. We were talking about a certain set of minerals that we found to be deficient that were impacting everybody from chemicals in the sky. Ah, there you go. And we. So it's silica and.

[Dr. Justin Marchegiani]

Oh, yeah.

[Gary L.]

And. And aluminum.

[Dr. Justin Marchegiani]

Yeah, yeah, There's. There's plenty of them up there.

[Gary L.]

So we don't know how we were sharing the solution for it. And they took away 1.7 million people like that, no warning. So. But yeah, any other.

[Dr. Justin Marchegiani]

I've had that happen for Peptides. I've had it happen for quite, quite a number of things. Yeah.

[Gary L.]

Yeah. So they, they can go there. That's a good place to start. And if they're, if they, they want to try it out, of course, most of it's free. Go to our YouTube and try a 15 minute stress reset. Really just go try that out and if it works good for you, do it for three days. And if at three days it works good, do it for seven days. The three day mark and the seven day mark are cathartic in the way that people experience it. Because when you take stress out of your body for a three day perception cycle or a seven day cycle, it resets the nervous system. It seems to do something that permanently gives you a new belief in your own body is the best way to describe it.

[Dr. Justin Marchegiani]

That's great. All right, well, we're about to go into my VIP room because my VIPs are waiting for you. They got a lot of questions for you before you came on the podcast. I let them know you were coming on, so they've got some really introspective questions for you. But I wind down all my podcasts by asking all my guests the same question, and there's no right or wrong answer to this question. But what does it mean to you to be an ultimate human?

[Gary L.]

Ultimate human. It's to be balanced between my thoughts, my emotions and my actions. Because when I'm balanced between my thoughts, my emotion and my actions, I show up in my best form, whether it's physically, emotionally, or perceptually. I show up better as a father. I show up better as a husband. I show up better as a practitioner or helper or teacher. So that's really what being an ultimate human is to me.

[Dr. Justin Marchegiani]

I love that the ultimate human is in. I mean, the human garage is in

[Podcast Host]

the ultimate human today.

[Dr. Justin Marchegiani]

I love it.

[Gary L.]

Guys.

[Dr. Justin Marchegiani]

I hope you enjoyed the podcast. Vips. We're coming for you. And until next time, that's just science.