When it comes to numbers and metrics, churches sometimes say things like, “Our culture has never talked about numbers; we’re not a business,” and “Numbers are too impersonal.”

This topic seems to create anxiety in church staff members. But what if numbers actually weren’t the enemy? What if you could use metrics and value people simultaneously? What if you could listen to the Holy Spirit and use data to support your vision and mission?

Good managers bring clarity to what the wins are for their team and for their team members. And metrics are tools for clarity.

In this episode, Amy and Sean discuss why there is pushback on using numbers and metrics, how to have a healthy approach to using measurement in ministry contexts and practical tips for introducing healthy practices to your team.

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