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Lyle
Hello?
Rudy
Yeah, hello, Hello.
Lyle
What's your name?
Chente
Rudy.
Rudy
Nice to talk to you. How are you, Rudy?
Lyle
Rudy Giuliani. When did he fuck up your name a little bit? Because for some when you say Rudy, I think Rudy Giuliani and I think the fucking reindeer, Rudolph with the nose. I can't think of any other Rudy or maybe. Or wait, there's a kid named. There's not a real kid, like a cartoon child named Rudy. Do you know who I'm talking about?
Rudy
I don't, but the one I usually get a lot is like from the Rudy movie. Like when I was younger, I would tell people, like, Rudy's my nickname. I like, I, I go by it a lot because it's easier for people to, to pronounce than my actual name. But I would get a. I would get like the movie reference. Like the Rudy football movie. Have you ever seen that one?
Lyle
The Rudy football movie? No. What is that?
Rudy
It's like, it's like a really old school movie. But it's. That's the name of the movie. It's Rudy. It was like really popular, like in the early 2000s, I believe. So that's the name that's the reference. I got a lot from, like, older people. They're like, oh, Rudy, like, from the movie. And I'd be like, yeah, sure. Even though I never really watched it fucking.
Lyle
It just came to me. Rudy is the name of the main character from Chalk Zone.
Rudy
Chalk Zone, Believe it or not, I haven't. I've never seen that show.
Lyle
How old are you?
Rudy
30.
Lyle
Okay, you're in Chalk Zone territory. Did you used to watch Nickelodeon?
Rudy
I did, but I flicked to a lot of, like, SpongeBob. SpongeBob. And, like, Jimmy Neutron.
Lyle
Yeah, he was this guy. He would use chalk to create, you know, what's funny? Chalk Zone. You know what's funny is there's all these old. Like, I'm about to say something so stupid, but I'm just gonna say it and see how it sounds. But there's all these, like, old shows about children creating characters and then talking to them. Like, this guy Rudy from Chalk Zone, he basically enters this world made of chalk, and he created. He creates a little guy, a little blue guy, and he make. And he talks to it. Do you think that's, like, how kids are making, like, chat bots that are like little monsters that they can talk to with AI? Is that similar?
Rudy
I would say, yeah. So something a little similar. I do vaguely remember the show, but I would say. I would say so. I would say so.
Lyle
Yeah. I mean, they're both signs of, like, schizophrenia, in a way.
Chente
Yeah.
Rudy
You know, I was thinking the same thing. Like, it probably contributes more to schizophrenia than it does to, like, the AI Chatbots, but, you know.
Lyle
Yeah. So, yeah, I think it's best to. I think it's best to talk to real people, I guess. Or like, having an imaginary friend. You should have a real imaginary friend.
Rudy
Yeah. Yeah. But then, you know, kids get a little. Little too ahead of themselves. You know, we'll draw, like, the little pictures and then, you know, leads the parents to get concerned. And that's how horror movies start.
Lyle
You know, you texted me and said, I live in America. My girlfriend wants me to move to Japan to be with her. But I feel like it's a huge risk to give up everything and go, I would like some outside advice from the wise gecko man, please, sir. Okay. Okay. Is your girlfriend Japanese or she just wants to move to Japan?
Rudy
No, she is 100 Japanese. She was born there. She's half Japanese and half Spanish. And she wants me to go over there, obviously. Like, I've already mentioned my age. I'm 30 years old. She's 32. She's gonna turn 33 in July. And so I basically already have my life settled here in America. I got a good job. It's union, so I make pretty decent money. Pension, insurance. I bought a house back in 2017, so, like, my payments are pretty well. But I've tried convincing her to come live in America with me, but she doesn't really want to kind of give up her lifestyle, and she kind of wants me to go over there. So I'm kind of, like, conflicted a little bit.
Lyle
You know, it's funny, there's. There's actually a lot of. There's a lot of, like, key differences, but something kind of exactly similar. I won't go into too much detail. Detail about it, but, like, something kind of exactly similar actually also happened to me where I thought I almost moved to Japan for similar reasons. Japan is awesome. Japan is like a great fucking time. Have you been. I assume you've been.
Rudy
I have. I went there for the first time ever last year to visit her. I was there for two weeks, and then this past January, I was actually staying with her for three months. So I got a good little taste of it, which was. Which was nice. Different way of life, obviously. I wasn't really working while I was there. I was more, like, kind of studying a little bit, but very different. Very different from America, but a little difficult to talk to people because I. I'm not fluent in the language. I could barely speak it. So, yeah, very, very different. But I loved it. It was. It was absolutely amazing. It was beautiful.
Lyle
I mean, it's great. Yeah. I've spent, like, four months there. Not, like, concurrently, but, like, over the course of, like, a few years, and it's. It's fucking sweet. The biggest problem with it and one of the big reasons I decided to not move there is because, like. Like, you're totally not supposed to be there. That. That was my feeling is, like, it's. You know, it's not like a. Like. Like what? Like, one of the cool things. Like, one of the cool things about America is that, like, you know, we have, like, diversity. Like, there's no. Like, every. Like, you walk around in, like, a major American city, you see every ethnicity of person, but, like, you know, Tokyo, it's. It's a monoculture. And, like, if you're not, like, a Japanese person, you do really feel it.
Rudy
Yeah, that's. That's one thing that I. Like you said you really do feel it when I was there. Like, obviously, like I said, she's half Spanish, so she's not like she doesn't fully look like a Japanese person. You could tell, like she's mixed with something. But even when we would go to like restaurants and stuff, like they would try talking to us in English because they would see that I was a foreigner and obviously she's not. She doesn't look like fully Japanese. And she would have to like talk to them like, oh, like Japanese is okay, basically.
Lyle
Yeah.
Rudy
And they would like profusely, like apologize, like, oh, I'm so sorry, I'm so sorry. You know, but definitely, yeah, like here in America it's very different. Like nobody really bats an eye at, you know, a foreign person, so to speak. And then over there, obviously, you know, you do stick out like a sore thumb.
Lyle
Yeah, it's. I mean, it's also. It's tough. It's a tough place to be in without speaking the language. Where are you based currently that you don't want to move out of?
Rudy
I'm currently based in Illinois.
Lyle
Yeah, where in Illinois?
Rudy
Towards like the suburbs, towards like the Naperville, Plainfield and like that area out there. I actually was considering going to your show.
Lyle
Oh, okay.
Rudy
Yeah, in a couple months. I think it's like in August, right? Or something like that.
Lyle
I've got two. I've got one in Bloomington, I have actually no idea where that is. And then one in Chicago.
Rudy
Oh, okay. Yeah, I was considering, I was considering going, but I don't really have anybody to. To go with, so. Yeah, I gotta find somebody. Yeah, it's. I'll think about it. I'll think about it.
Lyle
But anyway, anyway, anyway, she wants you to move to Tokyo or like some random ass Japanese town in like rural place.
Rudy
So she lives in Shibuya, Tokyo. Like she's probably like a 15 minute walk away from Shibuya Crossing.
Lyle
Oh, that's awesome.
Rudy
Yeah, she's got like a really nice studio apartment. She works really hard. She's like a. She's a Japanese language teacher. So she'll teach like English speaking students, like Japanese and she'll also teach like Japanese people, like English, you know. So she's got, she's got a pretty good setup. She works really hard. She works every single day, you know, doing like administrative work along with her teaching job. So she definitely done pretty well for herself.
Lyle
So how'd you meet this girl?
Rudy
So my job allows me. It's kind of like, it's kind of like seasonal. Ish. Like I have the option to kind of take the winter off. So I never really traveled outside of America and I was going to do a solo trip. And I was kind of looking at different countries. I was really big, you know, anime weed. Not like super big, but, you know, I. I liked anime. So I figured Japan is pretty safe. It's got very convenient train systems and relatively cheap compared to America and a completely different culture. So I was planning to take the winter off between January to April and go and stay in Japan. And I tried learning the language, so I bought a couple, like, study books, but I wasn't really too good at, like, at, you know, studying by myself. So I went on Google. I looked up Japanese, you know, tutors, and it directed me to a prep to, like, a website.
Lyle
Yeah.
Rudy
And basically, like, I searched through a whole bunch of different teachers, and I ended up finding her. And, you know, we kind of got to talking a little bit, and then things just kind of went from there. And that's just kind of how we met. I. She, like, we kind of went half and half on the plane ticket, but she ended up coming over here back in July. That was, like, the first time we met. And then she came over here again in, like, October, and then I went over there in November, and then I went over there again in June.
Lyle
Okay.
Rudy
And then I'm planning to go over there again in September.
Lyle
Okay. So it's been a. So you guys are in a committed relationship?
Rudy
Yeah. Yeah.
Lyle
Okay. And so it's been a back and forth thing over the course of how long?
Rudy
It's been about. It's been about June right now. It's been about a little over a year since we first met. A little like about 11 months since we started dating. We have had, like, our issues every here and there because obviously, like, cultural differences and a little bit of a language barrier. But for the most part, like, you know, we. We try our best to work things out.
Lyle
What have. What have been the issues that you guys have had to work out?
Rudy
Man. Okay. So basically, like, she. She's a freelance worker, so she likes to. She, like. And obviously their culture is a little bit different. So when it comes to going out and, like, meeting different people, like, staying out late and drinking and all those other things, like, she does it pretty consistently. She's very. She connects a lot with, like, a lot of CEOs that are, you know, business owners and things like that, and she teaches them English. And obviously, like, in return, they'll like, like, they'll go out to, like, nice places to eat or, you know, they'll go golfing, things like that. Sometimes she'll also travel to, like, other countries. And she kind of works as like a, a translator of sorts, you know, but in order to kind of maintain these relationships, like, you know, she'll occasionally have to go like, with drinks for them or like for dinners and things like that. So I'm a little.
Lyle
Am I, am I sensing, am I sensing like, oh, you're a little afraid she'll cheat on you
Rudy
a little bit. And it's just very uncomfortable, you know, because obviously they have like a hierarchy over there. So, like, when she goes out, like, she has to pay attention to these people. Right. She has to like, connect with them and, you know, full undivided attention type thing.
Lyle
Okay.
Rudy
So she doesn't really have time to like, be on her phone because it would be seen as rude that you're not, you know, you're not fully attentive. And then like, also when she'll go out to drink and there's like a big group of them, they can't start leaving until like the guy with like the highest hierarchy decides it's like, time to go.
Lyle
Yeah.
Rudy
You know? Yeah. So it's, it's a little bit in part of the cheating thing, but I've kind of like, moved past it. I, I go to an actual therapist and we try to like, talk things through and like, he kind of gives me some tips and, you know, I, I've gotten definitely a lot better, but it still makes me a little bit uncomfortable. So. Yeah, those are kind of the issues that, that we kind of run into.
Lyle
Okay. Okay, interesting. Has. She has. What kind of issues has she had with you?
Rudy
Basically the, that I would, I would ask her, like, hey, like, if you're going out, like, I would just kind of like to know an idea of like, if, when you're coming home. Because there was a few times, like when I was over there for three months, she would tell me, like, oh, yeah, I'd probably be home like around 1 or 2 o'. Clock. So I'd stay up waiting for her and then It'd be like 3 o' clock and she still wouldn't be home. And I'm just kind of like, like, hey, like if, if we're gonna be living together, like, it's kind of something that I'd like to know. Like, so she's very independent and, and when I ask her, like, just for like details and stuff like that, she kind of takes it as controlling. I try not to be, you know, but that's kind of how she, she's takes it a little bit.
Lyle
Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it Sounds like you already worked through these issues and stuff and this is like a retrospective thing. But, you know, my, my feelings about that stuff is like, I don't know my feelings about that stuff and maybe this is, this is how I feel about it is like when you're in a relationship or something like that, I feel like you just kind of like know in your gut if the person you're dating really likes you or not. You know what I mean? And I kind of feel like if you know in your gut that the person you're dating really loves you, like, you can say that for sure. Then you're, then, then you're fine. Then, you know, let him do whatever, you know, not. Let him not like, not. I don't mean let him do whatever, but I mean like if, you know, if you know that they love you, you know that they love you, you know.
Rudy
Yeah. And like, I don't doubt that she loves me and I don't doubt my love towards her. It's just, it comes down to, to me just kind of like learning and accepting this different lifestyle because I'm not used to things like that. Like I work a normal blue collar job, you know, where I clock in, clock out, go home. That's it. Yeah, a little boring to some people, but she, she loves to go out, she loves to socialize with people, she loves to meet new people.
Lyle
And that's not you.
Rudy
She recently, I, I'll go out, I'll meet different people, but I'm more of like introverted. She likes the more philosophical aspect to people, like, oh, what made you, you know, what made you interested in your job? Like, you know, what do you do for a living? Like, what was it like growing up? You know, things like that. And for me it's just kind of like, you know, I'll meet people here and there. But it is what it is, you know, I don't go out necessarily seeking it, but if it happens, it happens.
Lyle
You know. It's funny, I've been like thinking about this to myself a lot lately. Is like, I think, I think I'm just talking about like I used to think I wanted to date someone who was like similar to me. And that because you're the way your girlfriend is, you know, it feels like it's like kind of similar to me. And I'm like, I used to think I want, want to date someone who's like, like that, but now I'm kind of thinking like, oh, I think that. And I'm curious what your perspective is on the other end of this, because now I'm kind of like, oh, I think I weirdly might enjoy being with someone who is less like that, just because I get so, like, then. Because then there just becomes, like, two of me, you know, Just in terms of, like, dating somebody who's, like, has the same ish personality as you, do you feel like. Do you feel like that's a good thing? Like. Like, for you? Like, do you feel like you like having somebody who has, like, a kind of, like, complementary personality to yours? Or. Or do you. Do you prefer people who are more similar to you? Like. Like. Like people who are also introverted?
Chente
Um.
Rudy
I would say that I really like somebody that compliments you because, like, if it wasn't for her, like, when I was over there for three months, we had gone to Indonesia together. And, like, if it wasn't for her, I would have never gone. Probably not yet. Obviously, I was still trying to travel by myself, and Japan was, like, my first destination. But, like, she kind of pushed forward and we did that together. And then I kind of. That. Actually, when I was listening to your show a couple of years ago, you had a caller call in that she had gone to a sensory deprivation thing, and when she had came here to America, I had taken her to one of those. So like a more of a peaceful, calm, meditation thing. So I think that, like, finding somebody that compliments you, I. It's something I really like. So it just. It's just taking a little bit of time kind of to adjust to it. And obviously, I'm stepping out of my comfort zone, so it's very. It's very difficult. And I mean. Oh, sorry, go ahead.
Lyle
No, you go ahead. You go ahead.
Chente
Okay.
Rudy
When I was over there, she had introduced me to one of her students. He's a young, really successful business owner, and he had taken me to a really nice steakhouse. He had taken me to, like, a hostess bar where he had met his girlfriend. And he essentially paid for everything. And even though we couldn't really speak, we were kind of like. It was like, a lot of gestures and stuff, like when we were going out to different bars, when we were going out to dinner and stuff like that, because it was me, him and his girlfriend. Like, it was really nice, you know, meeting different people and experiencing, like, a different thing than what I'm used to. So I. I could definitely, like, get used to that. That kind of life. But like I said before, I don't necessarily seek it out either. Like, if it happens, it happens.
Lyle
So let's talk about this. You what? You. Okay, you live in the suburbs of Illinois.
Rudy
Yes.
Lyle
And, and what's going on in the suburbs of Illinois that you do not want to leave,
Rudy
man? It's just I, I'm very, I'm very well set, so to speak. I mean, like I said, I bought a house back in 2017, so my mortgage is. I only owe like 115,000 and I've already paid off like 10 years worth of it. So that means like my mortgage payment, I have like a 4% interest rate and I only pay about $1200 a month. You know, like that's essentially unheard of for a four bedroom, two and a half bathroom. It's a townhouse, you know, with a two.
Lyle
Why do you need. Well, okay, hold up. Pause for a second. Oh, wait. Several, several questions. Several questions.
Rudy
Yeah, go ahead.
Lyle
Okay. You're not married and you don't have kids. Why do you need a four bedroom house?
Rudy
Well, back when I was 20 years old, my mom had essentially gotten a settlement because she ended up getting hurt at work. And at the time we were, we weren't in the best situation where she was, we were living in like, it was me, her and my brother. We were living in a two bedroom apartment. And when she got the settlement money, I had a pretty decent job, I had a good credit score. So we ended. She ended up like gifting me the money and we bought a townhouse. Now if she were to come over here, obviously I'd sell the townhouse, we'd have extra money, and then we can get a place of our own. And then my mom, you know, my brother can kind of go live with my sisters or something. But like right now I got a pretty decent house. Like, I got a really good paying job, really good insurance, and it's. I would love to leave, but like, I would like to stay here for like a couple more years. But she's not really willing to come to America for, for a long time.
Lyle
Your girlfriend sounds like the kind of, you know, it's funny. Yeah. Your girlfriend sounds like the kind of person who would kill herself if she had to live in the suburbs of Illinois. And then you sound like the kind of person that does not just up and move to Japan on a whim.
Rudy
Yeah.
Lyle
So that's kind of where we're.
Rudy
Yeah, that's, that's kind of the issue, man. I mean, what's, like I said, what's
Lyle
this, what's this job?
Rudy
I, I don't want to get too, too personal, but you don't have to get the person.
Lyle
But what's, I mean, what, like, is it just like some office thing?
Rudy
No, no, no, it's. I guess I can kind of mention it without giving out the whole name. It's a. It's a garbage company. It's. Like I said, it's not too far from my house, so it's very convenient. And like I said, it pays pretty well. I work, I do work a lot of overtime. But like I said, one of the benefits of it is that I'm able to travel. I'm able to take the winter off and I can travel for three months every winter, you know, so that's how I had stayed over there.
Lyle
Okay. And this is an in person gig.
Rudy
It is in person. I drive a like class B CDL truck.
Lyle
Also. What's the plan if you move to Japan? Right? Like what can you even get a job? Like, you know, like a visa? Like, have you looked into like. Because there's a ton of shit you have to do.
Rudy
Yeah. So there's a few pathways that her and I have kind of considered. First off, first one was marriage. But because of the issues that we had, we kind of decided to postpone it for a little bit. So the second pathway was essentially me applying for a language school. It's gonna cost around like $10,000 for the year and. But once that language school is done, we would either have to decide whether to get married or I would have to come back to America. I am currently like trying to study to get a software engineering degree. So I could potentially find a like remote job and then obviously go to the language school so I can kind of work as a software engineer as, you know, for a Japanese based company or I mean.
Lyle
Oh, for a Japanese based. I thought you're gonna say for a U.S. company because that would be like a. I mean that's like the cheat code for doing well.
Rudy
Well, yeah, but like, like, yeah, get paid in American currency. But like having the skills to be able to use like the Japanese language and like my English language as well. So. Okay, that's kind of like the secondary plan. So. Okay.
Lyle
Okay. But this, I'm. No, I'm glad we talked about it, but this doesn't sound like a logistical thing. This is like. This is more of an emotional thing. This is more of like a guttural thing.
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Lyle
do you want to have kids with this woman? Do you want to, like, build a whole life together? Is that the plan?
Rudy
See, I would love to. I would love to. I, I love her. I definitely want to marry her. But the lifestyle thing, I don't know if she's willing to like, slow her life down right now and kind of settle in, you know, so I'd kind of have to wait for her in a sense.
Lyle
Oh, but that, but I mean, yeah, but you're 30, you know, and she's what, 33?
Rudy
Yeah, she's gonna be 33 this year.
Lyle
Okay.
Rudy
Time's picking, you know what I mean? Like, it's, we're not getting any younger. But at the same time, like, I don't want to rush into, into kids either. Like,
Lyle
dude, that's the tough thing. And this is, and dude, dude, I've had, I, I, I've, I've had this problem. Like, this is the hard thing about this, like, overseas stuff is it's like the toughest thing about it is that everything about it just feels like it's, it feels like it's a very all. I have no if, by the way, because this is like a thing I've like, dealt with. Like, I, I don't actually have an answer for you. I can, I can merely ponder it. I can merely ponder it for you. With you. The toughest thing about this is like the, the, it's scary because it's like a, it's such a all or nothing thing. Like, in order for it to like, these things, they, they, they require these really scary, like, leaps of faith, right? Like, if you were just, like, dating a lady in Illinois, like, who lived in this city, and you lived in the suburbs, and your distance was an hour away. It's like, okay, we can, like, slowly build our relationship and figure out these problems and stuff, but when you got, you know, a lady in Japan, it's like, if we're doing this for doing this, you know, like. Like, if we're getting married, we're getting married. If we're, you know, if I'm moving, I'm, like, it. Like, in order, it's. It's hard to have, like, a relationship like this where it requires big leaps of faith and big moves to do it. But I will. I will say, and. And I. And I. I empathize with you on that. It's really, like, kind of tough and scary. I will say this, though. If you believe in your gut a. That actually, no, if you believe in your gut a. That you love this woman, I mean, that's easy, you know, Love. Love is. Love is. Love is kind of the easiest equation of a relationship, I think, you know, because love is love. Love, love. Love doesn't really take anything you can love. Like, you can love someone. You don't have to be in the same room with them. Like, love is easy. You know, commitment is difficult. Logistics are difficult. Maintaining relationship is difficult. But the question is, okay, do you love her? You know, A. I mean, that's the easy one. And then, B, do you feel in your gut that, like, she's your partner? Like, she's the one you want to do this with? You know, if you feel in your gut, you're like, she's like. When you look like, when you think about her, are you. Like, she's awesome. She's so great. I would. I want her to be the mother of my children. I think she's an amazing person. I think she's so cool. I think she's like, I respect her so much. I admire her so much. I'm, you know, like, all that shit. That's the shit you really want to be, making sure you're in tune with, like, we're aligned on that stuff. Because for every relationship, you have to decide what you're willing to put up with or make work. And so you should ask yourself, like, what your gut is saying to you and what you can give full body. Yes. Like. Like, go, like, ask yourself several questions and figure out which of these questions am I giving a full body yes to? And then which of these questions am I hesitant about? Like, you. Like, you ask. You literally ask Yourself, like the easy one. Do I love her? Full body? Yes, I love her. That's easy. Full body. Do I give a full body? Yes to. She'd be a great mom. Do I have a full body? Yes to. We have similar values. Do I give a full body? Yes to. I deeply admire her, you know. Do I give a full body yes to all of these other things? And then if you can give a full body yes to like, most of that stuff, then everything else, you gotta go. Like, you know, I mean, this. I mean, this house. Who gives. To be. To be frank, who gives a fuck about this house? You know what I mean? Like, it's a fudgeing house. Like, you, like, you can rent it out, you can sell it. Like, who gives a fuck, right? Like, that's not the. This house is kind of a stupid thing to me because it's. It's nothing. It's like a. It's a minor money thing that has like, very logistical, easy to solve solutions if you had deep rel. Even the job. I mean, job is a little different, but like, it. Even the job is like, what. Whatever you can figure out how to find some job. Like, do you have deep relationships, deep connections? Deep, like, do you fucking. Are you absolutely. Full body. Deeply in love with Naperville, Illinois? You know, and you might be. You might. Maybe your parents are there. Maybe. I don't. I don't know. You haven't really. I don't.
Chente
But.
Lyle
But also the fact that I. The fact that, like, when. When I asked you what's going on in the suburbs of Illinois, you didn't bring up, oh, my parents are there and I want to be close with them. Oh, I have such a great friend group in Illinois. I want to be. You brought up this, like, house. It's like, what the is this house? Who gives a. About that? You know that a lot of that's just kind of like material fear shit. But the question. The questions I would really be asking if I was you is like, what are you. What are you in like, full alignment with in terms of like, your relationship with this lady, you know?
Rudy
Well, like a full body. Yes to like, a lot of things about her. I can. I can list many things. One of the things I do have an issue with, like, she takes a lot of naps.
Lyle
No, you can. No, that's. You can work through that, dude. She takes a. Go ahead.
Chente
Yeah,
Rudy
yeah, she takes a lot of naps. So like, sometimes it was really nice when I was over there and I'd be like, hey, like let's go. Let's go for a walk or something. Like, let's go walk the dog. And she'd like, oh, I want to take a nap. And she'd nap for like a couple, like, three, four hours. I was just kind of like, that's kind of our day. Which, which sucks. But like you said, it's. It's whatever, man.
Lyle
Oh, my God, dude. No, that's a thing. That, That's a. That's easy. That's. So let her. To let her take a nap and then go for a walk.
Rudy
Right, Right. Yeah. No, I caught myself a lot of the times where she was like, oh, like, I'm gonna take a nap. And I'm like, okay, I'm gonna go to the gym, you know, something like that. Or like, I'd take her dog for a walk or something like that. Or I'd go for a coffee shop if she wanted to sleep in or, you know. So it's like, I never really found, like, a big issue with that, you know? But when I was like, you know, a few times, I'd be like, hey, like, let's go do this. And she'd be like, no, like, I want to get it. So like I said, very minor thing. But besides that, like, she's. She's very kind, she's very intelligent. She's very hard working.
Lyle
Yeah.
Rudy
She's got such an amazing personality. And like, when I had gotten sick when I was over there, I had like a really bad, like, stomach virus. Like, the whole time, like, she was worried about me. She was, like, trying to help me out, like.
Lyle
Yeah.
Rudy
Offering me to get medicine. A good lady in turn. Yeah. I. When she got sick, in turn, I. I did the same thing. Yeah. So, like, I'm willing to give everything up for her. Okay. It's just like, like you said, it's a scary leap of faith because it's
Lyle
a scary leap of faith thing. But again, the, like, naps. You know what I, Like, I'm talking. I'm talking about, like, real. I'm talking about like, Like, I'm talking about real. I was talking about real. Like, well, like, like, are you real? Real. Real is like, do you both have the same, like, real shit? Is like, are you both physically attracted to each other? If that matters to you?
Rudy
If.
Lyle
Are you both physically attracted to each other? Do you like hanging out with each other? Do you have similar ish ways of looking at the world and problems? Do you have similar ish ways that you want to, like, live a life? They have similar. Ish Timelines for marriage and family. You know, I mean, everything else is like, naps. I mean, you know, whatever. If, like, like, if the big things align and the things that aren't taking you out of Naperville, Illinois, are, like, real, which, then, you know, so I. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not here to tell you what to make your decision about, but, like, if I were in your shoes, and I have been in your shoes, like, but that. Those are the things I'd be thinking about.
Rudy
Yeah. So what is it that you mentioned? So a lot of the times, like, I guess one of the things that I did kind of have an issue with, like, so I like to talk through our problems. Right. So if there's something that bothers me, I typically try to bring it up. Right. And we discuss it and we talk about it. Yeah. But the way she sees things, it would be more of like, well, if it's not a big deal, then just kind of let it go, you know? So that. That's something that we've. We struggled with a little bit because, like, I would try to bring something up and she would take it as an argument and I'd be like, like, I'm just trying to explain what bothered me here. And she was like, well, there's some things that, like, you did that bothered me. She's like, but I didn't bring them up because. Well, yes, you know, it's not.
Lyle
It's not important, dude. Yeah.
Rudy
No.
Lyle
This lady's a genius because you got to pick your. But I also. I really feel like in a relationship you have to pick your battles. I believe that deeply. You know what I mean?
Chente
That's.
Lyle
That's. I side with her on that. I believe in a relationship you must pick your battles, like, every. Like, because there's little things that, like, everyone's going to have, like the naps thing, Right? Like, everyone's gonna have little things that piss each other off about each other. But, like, you should. I think in a relationship you should strategically pick your battles as to what is a big deal for you. Do you know what I mean? That's why I'm on her side with that.
Rudy
Yeah. And I've definitely gotten a lot better at it. Like, if there's something small that would bother me, like, I just kind of like, water off a duck's back, I just kind of, like, let it go. If it's something a little bit bigger, you know, I'll try to bring it up. But besides that, like, we've kind of moved past it. There is a little bit of a language barrier, obviously, when it came to us communicating, like, those issues before. But I've kind of learned to simplify my wording a little bit, and, you know, it kind of make things a little bit easier because obviously, yeah, she knows more English than I know Japanese, so we mainly speak in English. Right. So I kind of have to tone it down a little bit.
Lyle
Right.
Rudy
So when it comes to those things, I have gotten. Definitely gotten a lot better. And. But, like, like I said, the only other thing is just like, her. Her lifestyle that. That she lives, which, you know, it's. Like I said, it's. It's a little difficult for me, but I'm like, I'm trying my best to kind of be okay with it.
Lyle
You know, it's an interesting thing when you're dating someone who English is not their native language is. You have this thing of, like, little nuance. Like, you're more likely, I feel like, to be taken at complete face value in everything that you say. Like, little nuances are not. They don't come across as much and that depending on who you are and, like, kind of the situation, there are pros to that and cons to that.
Rudy
Yeah.
Lyle
You know what I mean? Like, like, for example, if you, like. Like, if you're tired and you say I'm tired, it's pretty. Like, you know, if it's not like, oh, if you say I'm tired in, like, a slightly bitchy way that. That. That, like, that you'll. That she'll interpret it as, like, you're trying to, like, you mean something underneath that, like, it's more likely you'll be taken at face value, and, like, there's something kind of nice about that. But then the flip side of it is, like, when you do want to communicate in. In these, like, nuanced ways, it is. Is a little trickier.
Rudy
Yeah, it's that. That is something that. It took a little bit of adjusting because sometimes she would, like, say things, and the way she would say them would come kind of come off a little harsh, and she was like, oh, like, I didn't. I didn't mean it like that. Yes, for me. For us, like, the way that she would say it was, like, very direct, you know, and I was just kind of, like, taken aback by it.
Lyle
Yeah, of course.
Chente
Yeah, so.
Rudy
So it's just little adjustments here and there.
Lyle
Yeah, yeah, of course. But you get. You kind of get used to that because you. You have to. You have to understand that, like, they're not. So they're not trying to do that. That's just like their understanding of the just. It's just the little nuances are, are I, I. There was this girl I was dating a while ago and she would like, we would text and she would respond to some of my texts and just say like, sure.
Rudy
And okay, do you know.
Lyle
And do you know like, like if you're like with like another American person, like if they just say like sure. It kind of sounds like they're being passive aggressive.
Rudy
Yeah.
Lyle
In a text. Right. And like we met, I, I tried to explain this to her and she felt like bad. She was like, oh, I didn't realize that was like the vibe that I was communic. Like, I feel like I, I like rocked her world with like just the not. She was like, oh, how many people have I been like accidentally being passive aggressive too just because I didn't know the little, the little nuance of like, sure, you know?
Rudy
Yeah. And see like one thing that I do to kind of like help, like we just add like a bunch of little. We, we use line, which is like their main messaging app. We use like a lot of little emojis or whatever they use over there to kind of like soften those nuances so they know like if. So she knows I'm not being like too aggressive and vice versa, you know, so. But yeah, I mean, besides that, like the relationship is. It's, it's going, you know, it's cool, man.
Lyle
It's cool. It's cool. I mean, it's hard. It's hard because yeah, it takes these kinds of things. They, they're like, they really require like full send leaps of faith to make work and that's. It's hard and scary. I tell you know, I get, I, I get you.
Rudy
Yeah. I like, what are some ways that I would, I could use to like cope with the late night outing, so to speak? Because like in a couple months, like, oh, that's actually like she's going. Yeah, like she's going to Costa Rica. It's gonna be her and like one other dude. Which is like, to me that's uncomfortable but. And like I want to trust this. I really do. And I try my best to. Dude, have 100 faith, dude.
Lyle
It's just, does this dude you, you, you know, like, you, A girl doesn't even have to be your girlfriend for that. Like, you know, when a girl likes you. You know what I mean? Like, you know, you know. Do you know what I mean? Like, you've Lived life. You've been in crushes, really, like, forget about a relationship, forget about a wife, or, like, you just, you know when a girl likes you and when she doesn't like you. And if you know that a girl likes you, that's kind of all I think you need to know. And if you know that, that's.
Rudy
That's.
Lyle
I just feel like that's all you need to know. I don't know. Maybe I have different views about this kind of stuff, but, like, because I'm not. I'm not a particularly jealous person, I don't think. But like it, you know, I don't like it. Like, you. You. I mean, that's all I have to say, man, is like, don't. Because you don't want your. Because if you love someone and you know that they love you and you know that they like you, just, like, kind of. I feel like you should just let that be the thing. And then any other, like, oh, is she cheating on me with this, like, guy that, like, her work sent her to be with? Like, by pure nature of the fact that, like, it's just her and, like, a guy. Like, it's not even, like. Like, we don't even know anything about this guy. Like, it's just some dude from her work. Like, I. I think the fact that you're antsy about just the fact that she is going out to Puerto Rico with another guy just because he's a. Literally, just because he's of the opposite sex is, like, you know, that's a lot. It puts a lot of pressure on her and, you know, and you wouldn't want. And if you were in that position, you wouldn't want her to be feeling like she's, you know, not. Control. Yeah, kind of control. Kind of like, kind of controlled in some way, shape or form.
Rudy
Right.
Lyle
But, you know, like, that's my 2 cents on it.
Rudy
You know, a lot of people have given me advice on my perspective, so it's really. It's really helpful that you kind of put it in perspective of her that she simply. Did you have kind of doing this.
Lyle
Can I ask you something? Did you have a lot. Did you have, like, a ton of your guy friends being like, she's cheating on you?
Rudy
No, no, no. It's. It was just like, for me and my therapist, like, we were just trying to understand. Exactly. Like, because like I said, she's a freelance worker, so a lot of these people that she'll meet, like, she has to go out and meet on her own. So we're just trying to understand, like, the, the cultural aspects of it. And then, like, a lot of it. It just comes down to, like, what I'm used to and what I'm not used to. Like, I, like, in my relationships in the past, like, I would not go out with another woman for work or for fun, you know, just to go drink and have karaoke with out of respect for my partner, you know, so for her to do something like this.
Lyle
Oh, yeah, I know. Yeah, that makes. Yeah. Yes, yes. Yes, that makes sense. Yeah, you would not. Yeah, yes, that makes. I get what you said. Like, yes, in America, like, if, if you had like a female. I totally get what you mean. If you had a female co worker just be like. Or a female boss just be like, hey, let's just you and me get drinks after work and do karaoke together. And you went. Your wife would totally be like, what the. And yes, it's a different. And. But it's a weird. Yeah, there's a weird. There's like a culturally thing there where it's like doing that as like, part of working.
Chente
Right.
Rudy
So that, that's the struggle that I've been trying to overcome is just the, the cultural aspect of different relationships where she sees it as just, these are just my friends and this is like business where I see it as like, you know, in America, you don't necessarily do that. If you come home late from drinking with, like, a person of the opposite sex and you're home at like 3 o' clock in the morning, that's, you know, grounds for questioning. Like, what the. Like, why are you coming home so late? You know, so that's, that's the issue that I've been trying to kind of like work through and overcome. Yeah, obviously, because I don't, I'm not. I try my best, like, to not be controlling because she's her own person, she lives her own life. It's just like trying to overcome myself in these thoughts that I have when she's out, either on trips or, you know, on late night.
Lyle
Well, listen, we'll wrap this up in a second, but I'll just say from where I sit, it's kind of as simple as, like, if you, if you feel really gutturally aligned in, in. If you feel like. If you feel gutturally aligned with this lady in all of the aspects that are, like, actually important, not like the fucking naps or the house or whatever. If you feel like gutter really aligned with all the important aspects, you can kind of work through everything else that's that's kind of how I feel. What's your name again, man? Rudy.
Rudy
Rudy.
Lyle
Rudy Giuliani.
Rudy
Yes, Rudy. Oh, and by the way, I had called your show before. I believe it was three years ago. I called under a different name. It was under Johnny. I had, I was the guy that was like in that Monica dating SIM thing. After our phone call, I kind of, I kind of got my, my together. I end up.
Lyle
Wait, you're the, Wait, you're the guy who was dating, who was dating an AI Chatbot?
Rudy
Somewhat. Yeah, like the Doki. Doki Literal literature club thing.
Lyle
Oh, dude.
Rudy
Yeah.
Lyle
Yes, I remember that. Oh, and you have like a real girlfriend now.
Rudy
Yeah, yeah. Wait, that's right.
Chente
I, I, I, I, I, I, I
Rudy
changed my, the trajectory of my life after that. After that phone call, man, get out of here. Yeah, after that I kind of like, I went to the gym for a little bit. I kind of look like back at our phone call. And then I started planning a solo trip to like Hawaii after, after we talked because I was like, man, like, what am I doing with my life? I kind of have to start doing something differently. And then because of you, I kind of decided to go on that trip. And then it just kind of went from there, dude. So thank you.
Lyle
I'm so, I'm so happy. I mean, I am so delighted to be part of your AI girlfriend to real girlfriend pipeline. That brings me so much joy. That brings me.
Rudy
I'm glad to hear that. Yeah, man, thank you so much, dude.
Lyle
Yeah, I remember. Yeah, that was like 2022. Yeah, I totally remember that. Okay. Damn. Hell yeah. Okay, this is one of the, this is one of those instances where I'm like, this is a great, this is a perfect return caller episode here. Okay, cool, man. Well, let me know what you end up doing. I'm curious. Call me back in three years. Call you back in three years and let me know if you, you're, if you're living the beautiful, the beautiful Japan life. Is there anything else you want to say to the people at the computer before we go?
Rudy
Rudy, could I give her Instagram a shout out? Cuz like she's, she's a teacher, so she kind of relies on like students to like book her classes and stuff. I'd kind of like to help her out a little bit if people can kind of go and like her videos. Are you okay with that or, or not?
Lyle
Well, I mean, I'm, I mean I'm okay with that, but I'm also like, does like, is she cool with like a bunch of random folks. Like, I mean, I guess if she posts videos publicly, then it's fair game. Like, is she cool with that?
Rudy
Yeah, I mean, she's been trying to post like on Instagram more so she can try to get new students. So even if she gets one person or something, like, I, I just want to make sure it's okay with you if it is.
Lyle
I mean, it's okay if she, if she's cool with being like, you know, Well, I guess doxed or whatever,
Rudy
man, I probably should have asked her. I mean, but it is public.
Lyle
You know what? You know what? For the. Let's do, for the sake of the fact that we've given all. Let's not, let's not do it. If it was your Instagram, I'd be like, fine, but because it's hers, let's not do it.
Rudy
Okay, okay, sounds fair. Sounds fair.
Chente
In three years.
Rudy
In three years, if everything goes well, I'll have a talk with her and then I'll call back and, and then I'll shout her out then.
Lyle
Okay. Swag. Thank you, Rudy. Good luck, man. Take care.
Rudy
Thank you so much. You as well, man.
Lyle
Rudy forever.
Rudy
Bye. Rudy forever. Jack forever.
Lyle
That was Rudy. Rudy's a nice guy. Good, good fella. I hope, I hope he figures it out. I don't know. Yeah, a lot of the. Because that was. I don't know. I'm just going to repeat a bunch of. I already said, but yeah, whatever. I don't have any post call thoughts. I would just repeat everything I said. Go watch Chalk Zone. Let me. What's, what year did Chalk Zone come out? Who's got the chalk? Chalk Zone. Rudy's got the chalk. Rudy's got the chalk. Chalk Zone. Dude, his name is Rudy Tabooti. That's the name of the Chalk Zone guy ran for. Wow. It ran for six years. That's a long. That's a good run. Holy. 2002 to 2008. Wow. This. This podcast has been running as long as Chalk Z. How about that? Has it been running as long as Chalkzone? No, it's been running. It has not even been running as long as Chalkzone. That's what we gotta do. We gotta beat Chalkzone. All right.
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Lyle
Hello?
Rudy
Is this the Geckman?
Lyle
Yes, sir. Who is this?
Chente
This is Chinton, man.
Rudy
Hell yeah, Chinton. Chenton. Hell yeah, Chenton.
Lyle
What's up, Chinton?
Chente
Real name's Vicente, but people call me Chente.
Lyle
Chente. Chente, you said. I want to talk about how I cut my dick open.
Chente
Hey, you want to hear a story like that?
Lyle
Yeah. You know, from a guy like you? Absolutely. Please tell me everything.
Rudy
Awesome.
Chente
So this was probably. I. So I'm with my fiance right now. This is like when we sort of first got together. But yeah, I was with my current fiance at the time. And on my dick I started like a get like a little growth, almost like a pimple.
Rudy
She was crazy.
Chente
And it started off small, super tiny, like little pin dot. And just like over like a month or two, it got bigger and bigger to the point where it was a size a little bit bigger than your standard BB gun like pellet. So I got to a point where I had to like, I didn't want to go to the doctor and get that checked out, but every time I. I could feel that thing on my penis and it was like damn near middle shaft right on top
Rudy
so that
Chente
it didn't hurt or anything, but it was cool. But to get it out was a problem. You know, I'm not sure if you ever heard of like the doctor Pimple Popper?
Lyle
Yeah, sure.
Chente
You ever seen any of her videos by chance?
Lyle
I. I haven't. But I assume she doesn't do dicks.
Chente
No, I haven't seen any dicks on there, but that's where I had mine.
Lyle
Oh, so you had to cut open? You had to cut open. So you had a giant pimple on your dick and you had to Cut open the pimple or did you have to like, like, do it? Was it an inside job? You had to go inside of your penis to get the pimple?
Chente
It was. No, no. So it was on the surface of my skin, so it was over. I didn't have to go, like, under, like, under the meat or anything. So basically. So my girl had to make the first incision. She had to make the first cut because I was too much of a.
Lyle
Wait, wait, Your girl, your girlfriend just. It made an incision on your penis?
Chente
Well, yeah. I got a little, like, little knife. Like a little exacto knife because I was getting.
Lyle
Nothing happened.
Rudy
I was tired.
Lyle
Oh, God. You're doing amateur surgery.
Chente
Yeah. For real? Yeah. That's what it was. So I'm over here, butt naked on the shower, like, sitting on the shower tub with my dick in my hand. And. Well, first I was like, all right, well, get me hard that way. It's easier to, like, manipulate. She's just gonna be moving around.
Lyle
Your girlfriend, you have to pay. You have a. You. You're sitting here.
Chente
I love.
Lyle
You're standing. You're standing in the shower and you're. You have a. Your girlfriend has a exacto knife, and she's gonna cut off the pimple on your penis. And you're like. And you're like, hey, can you. Can you get me hard first so you can cut?
Chente
Okay. So two minutes before I get, like. I'm sitting on the shower tub with this knife in my hand, you know, and she comes in and she's like, you start doing it yet? I'm like, no, I'm too much of a pussy. So I was like, get me hard first. And then, you know, let's do this first incision because this is going to be moving around and shit. So I got hard, but as soon as she put blade to dick, fluffed immediately.
Lyle
You know, as one does.
Chente
Yeah, I didn't think. I thought I would be able to handle it, but I guess I'm not into, like, Nightflip.
Lyle
Yeah. I was gonna say there's probably a lot of guys who. That would make them harder, but that's not you.
Chente
You're right. Right, dog? Not me. Not me. So as soon as that happened. But she got the first cut in, dude. And I was like, all right, well, I'm in way too deep. I could see this thing kinda, so I might as well keep going. And then as soon as I started squeezing, I realized she didn't go anywhere near as deep as she tattoos. So I just thought I told her to get the out and just let me finish.
Lyle
How, dude, how big was this pimple?
Chente
So it started off super small, like the size of any like little like pinned up pimple. But it grew up to like damn near the size of a bb, like a little bit bigger. You know, like BB guns.
Lyle
Oh, okay, okay. That's not that big of bb.
Chente
No, it's not that big, but I certainly felt it. Dude, when you're. You can feel that thing. They started bugging me.
Lyle
Okay, so once you sort of popped it or cut it off, like, what happened? Like, did it, did it heal?
Chente
Oh, well, I mean, so at first she made that first incision and I had to keep cutting down, but I got to a point where I got like 50 of it uncovered. And this was like a 30 minute process because I was shaking all scared and blood everywhere. But yeah, I just kept trying to tug it off, but that thing was like super glued to my, my skin. So I just had to like, like bit by bit, just pull it and cut, Pull it and cut.
Rudy
I butcher a lot of meat, so
Chente
I knew what to do. But yeah, it was on me. So it was kind of a different change. But yeah, after I cut it out, I should healed up right away closed. I didn't need stitches or nothing. At work I got like. I'm a mechanic. So we have like glue for cuts like that. Not like that, but for cuts in general. So I just super glued that thing, shut it down, cleaned it up, kept it cool for like a week.
Lyle
Wait, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. You, you, you what did you super glue?
Chente
Well, at my job I have like, it's like super glue when you get a cut so you can like glue your wound shut. What, So I just glued the incision? Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know, rid of that.
Rudy
You.
Lyle
You glued your own dick pimple back together?
Chente
Yeah. Well, there's a little hole there because there's a little like cyst in there. After I was done, you know, there's still there. So I just shut it close, kept it clean, no more issues.
Rudy
Mmm.
Lyle
Well, I'm happy to hear that you're doing well now.
Chente
Hell yeah, I'm doing great, man. How are you doing?
Lyle
I'm doing pretty good too, actually. I'm doing all right. I'm doing okay. I'm glad to hear that you're. Do you feel like this had any impact upon your relationship?
Chente
I mean, if it did, it was probably a good one. I think it was one of the better memories with me and my lady.
Lyle
That's Sweet.
Chente
Worst part is though, this is when I was still living with my parents. So I was at my parents house doing this. And my mom, she has like a special wound spray that like, dries out wounds pretty good. And I need some of that stuff too, just to help keep everything clean. As soon as I asked for it, it was an issue, man. She got scared. She's like, what happened? What'd you do? What's the problem? I'm like, dude, seriously, I don't. I don't want to talk about it,
Rudy
but I just need some wound spray.
Lyle
What's your name again?
Chente
My name?
Lyle
Yeah, go ahead, finish your story about your. Your mom.
Chente
But yeah, my name's Chenpe. But yeah, she. She told me.
Rudy
She basically, she wouldn't give me the
Chente
wound spray until I told her what happened. So I gave her the whole spiel and just told her what I told you right now. And then she hits me with, oh, your dad gets those. My dad gets those. What do you mean my dad gets those? And yeah, so it made sense. Everything came to a full circle at the end.
Lyle
So, yeah, you know, that's the. That's. That's the deterministic nature of life hitting you right in the dick. You know what I mean? It really. It's like, that's the deterministic nature of life hitting you in the dick, right? Is you. You can't decide who to whom you are born in this world.
Chente
That's exactly right.
Lyle
You may. You may well be. You may well have a cursed bloodline that forces you to have pimples on your penis occasionally.
Chente
But now one day, I'm gonna have to tell my son, hey, son, you might have a dick. People, I don't know.
Lyle
But where free will kicks in. Where free will kicks in is the free will to choose a wonderful partner who will be there to help you when you need.
Rudy
That's right.
Lyle
To cut the warts off your penis. And how beautiful is that?
Chente
That's why I put a ring on it, man. Gonna marry that girl.
Lyle
What a wholesome story.
Rudy
Chante, what's up, man?
Lyle
Is there anything else you want to say to the people of the computer before we go?
Chente
Nah, man, just love your podcast. Been trying to get on for a while. I think you called me like on Monday or. I think I missed one of your calls. Felt bad about it. But even so, I'm glad to talk to you, man. Life's going good, you know. No longer living at parents house, just by my own crib. I'm doing all right. We Keep trucking.
Lyle
Sweet. Sweet. Thanks for sharing, Chante. I'll see you around the universe, man.
Chente
You have a blessed one.
Lyle
That was gente. Yeah, dude. I think I believe in free will to some degree. There's. I believe in, like. I think life is like 50, 50. I think it's 50, 50. There's so many things in life you just can't control. You can't control the genetics you were born to, where you were born, all that shit. So, you know, that's life. Life is like 50% of it is just. It just gives you bullshit, like a. Like a. Like penis pimples. And the other 50%, you know, it's. It's whatever you do with that, the. The choices you make to help you get through it. I think that's what Vincente was getting at with this. Okay, that's been the Therapy Gecko podcast. Thanks for listening. My name is Lyle. I'm a gecko. I'm a person. And that's it. That's all I have to say. Oh, I guess I have some plugs I can talk about. Please go see my live show. I'm doing live shows. I'm touring the country. You can get tickets@therapygeckotour.com I'm doing shows all over the place. I don't know when this episode is coming out, but I think I'll be in the Pacific Northwest already by the time this is. This comes out. But there's a lot. There's a lot of cities. So if you live Anywhere, go to therapygeckotour.com and check if I'm near you. You can go to patreon.com lyleforever to get ad free episodes. I just uploaded a bonus episode with Oliver Tree. If you guys are familiar with Oliver Tree, I had him on to do an episode, and that episode is exclusively on the Patreon. Patreon.com lyleforever there's bonus episodes ad free podcast, all that stuff. But anyway, those are my little stupid plugs. This was a good episode today. I enjoyed this. Thank you to everyone who called. Thank you to Rudy, thank you to Vincenzo. Making me think about life, that's the secret of the podcast, folks. It's therapy for me. It's helping me talk through the fucking nature of our existence on this planet. All right, I've had too many Diet Cokes today. I'm gonna go calm down somewhere. Goc. Bless you guys. See you around the universe. Therapy kept goes doing it right, teaching
Rudy
you how to live your life.
Lyle
But he's not really an expert.
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Episode date: June 7, 2026
This Therapy Gecko episode dives deep into two entertaining and thought-provoking caller stories. The centerpiece is a heartfelt, dilemma-filled conversation with Rudy, a man facing a crossroads between his established life in suburban Illinois and the risky prospect of moving to Japan for love. Later, the mood pivots to a wild, comedic tale of amateur surgery courtesy of a listener named Chente. Throughout, host Lyle brings his characteristic absurdist humor, genuine curiosity, and unfiltered takes on relationships, trust, culture, and the weird stuff life throws our way.
Chente learns this is apparently hereditary after telling his mom about his unusual surgery.
Lyle pontificates:
Chente sums it up:
Whether you’re wrestling with a potentially life-changing romance or contemplating the chaos of DIY genital surgery, this episode delivers the Therapy Gecko mix: unvarnished insight, surprising life lessons, deep emotional validation, and absurd comedy. At its core, it’s about making leaps of faith, trusting your gut, and finding the humor even in life’s most intimate challenges.