“I’M A BREAKDANCER IN MEXICO”

Summary

Episode Summary: “I’M A BREAKDANCER IN MEXICO”

In this captivating episode of Therapy Gecko, hosted by Diego from iHeartPodcasts, listeners are introduced to Ameca, an unlicensed lizard psychologist who reveals himself to be a passionate breakdancer based in Tijuana, Mexico. The episode delves deep into Ameca's life, his involvement in the vibrant breakdancing community, and the personal challenges he faces as a new parent contemplating a significant career shift.

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1. Introduction: Identity and Anonymity (02:40 - 03:36)

The episode begins with a playful exchange where Diego engages with a caller who initially identifies as an Ameca Insurance Representative. The conversation quickly shifts as the caller reveals his real identity and background.

Notable Quote:

Ameca Insurance Representative [03:11]: "Oh, well, the good part of the story that I didn't even tell you is that I'm from Mexico, so it's kind of legal right here."

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2. Life in Tijuana: Beyond the Stereotypes (03:36 - 05:43)

Ameca offers an insightful perspective on Tijuana, countering common misconceptions. He highlights the city's diverse offerings beyond the party scene, emphasizing its good coffee, beaches, and welcoming neighborhoods.

Notable Quote:

Ameca Insurance Representative [03:36]: "There's the beach. There is everything that people don't see. Obviously, there's some bad neighborhoods as everywhere, but I think that there's some nice places, too, that you can just go."

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3. Breaking into Breakdancing: From Sonora to Tijuana (05:43 - 09:42)

Originally from Sonora, Ameca shares his journey into breakdancing. He recounts how his passion ignited at 16 while practicing MMA and how Tijuana became the hub for his dance aspirations. Despite lacking a local mentor, Ameca self-taught through YouTube and became an integral part of Tijuana's breakdancing scene.

Notable Quote:

Ameca Insurance Representative [07:58]: "I just saw it like at 16 when I was just practicing MMA and I was like, you know what, this shit is tight. Like you can use your body to just spin all around and all of that."

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4. The Breakdancing Community in Tijuana (09:42 - 11:50)

Ameca discusses the dynamics of the breakdancing community in Tijuana, noting the decline in events due to the COVID-19 pandemic. He expresses his commitment to revitalizing the scene by promoting various dance styles and organizing open-style events that welcome all forms of dance.

Notable Quote:

Ameca Insurance Representative [10:00]: "I'm part of a community that not just breaking, but I promote dancing because there are no promotions anymore and I do work in it."

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5. Balancing Parenthood and Passion (11:50 - 17:37)

A significant portion of the episode revolves around Ameca's internal conflict about continuing his breakdancing career now that he is a parent to a one-year-old child. He grapples with finding the time to practice and perform while ensuring he dedicates sufficient attention to his family and maintains a stable job in a call center.

Notable Quotes:

Ameca Insurance Representative [12:07]: "I'm parenting right now. My child is barely just one year old. It's been tough, but that dragged me into thinking, really go outside of the box."

Ameca Insurance Representative [15:31]: "I think that, I don't have enough time. But other thing though is that I'm the type of person that they always tell me, well, you can just organize yourself when you can have time. But at least for me, it's like when you're creating a song..."

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6. Diego’s Guidance: Embracing Passion Without Perfection (17:37 - 32:43)

Diego offers Ameca thoughtful advice, encouraging him to continue his passion for breakdancing without the pressure of perfection. He emphasizes the importance of enjoying the process rather than striving for flawless routines. Diego also addresses Ameca’s concerns about his child's attention and the stability of his career.

Notable Quotes:

Diego [17:18]: "If you just enjoy the process of doing it, then just do it."

Diego [20:20]: "If you're down, take some [questions from the chat], but just override the Ray Gun questions, please."

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7. Audience Interaction: Signature Moves and Tijuana’s Best (32:43 - 31:57)

Ameca engages with listeners by answering questions from the chat. He shares his signature move, “Halo to Lotus,” a complex freeze that showcases his unique style. Additionally, he highlights Birria as Tijuana’s best food, particularly praising the Vietnamese fusion variants crafted by local Vietnamese chefs.

Notable Quotes:

Ameca Insurance Representative [22:38]: "If I can use it to dance, I think that I will be a turtle."

Ameca Insurance Representative [29:08]: "There's only one food that can be very, like, very known in Tijuana, which is called birria."

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8. Closing Advice: Embracing Change and Community (32:43 - 32:37)

As the episode concludes, Ameca reflects on the importance of balancing personal ambitions with familial responsibilities. Diego reiterates the value of managing insecurities and encourages listeners to prioritize their well-being while pursuing their passions.

Notable Quote:

Ameca Insurance Representative [32:08]: "If you ever are going to become a parent, just don't let that suck you up. Like it's just part of the process. And you're gonna love your kids."

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Conclusion

“I’M A BREAKDANCER IN MEXICO” offers listeners an intimate glimpse into Ameca’s life as a dedicated breakdancer navigating the complexities of parenthood and career stability in Tijuana. Through heartfelt dialogue and engaging interaction, the episode underscores themes of passion, community, and personal growth, making it a compelling listen for anyone grappling with similar life decisions.

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Notable Quotes Compilation:

• Ameca Insurance Representative [03:36]: "There's the beach. There is everything that people don't see."

• Ameca Insurance Representative [07:58]: "I just saw it like at 16 when I was just practicing MMA and I was like, this shit is tight."

• Ameca Insurance Representative [12:07]: "I'm parenting right now. My child is barely just one year old. It's been tough."

• Diego [17:18]: "If you just enjoy the process of doing it, then just do it."

• Ameca Insurance Representative [29:08]: "There's only one food that can be very known in Tijuana, which is called birria."

• Ameca Insurance Representative [32:08]: "If you ever are going to become a parent, just don't let that suck you up."

Transcript

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[Diego]

Hey, what's up?

[Ameca Insurance Representative]

Hey, what's up? Is this the Geck?

[Diego]

Yes. Who is this?

[Ameca Insurance Representative]

Oh, hi. I wouldn't like to say my name, but in this case I will.

[Diego]

Okay.

[Ameca Insurance Representative]

Diego.

[Diego]

Diego. Okay.

[Ameca Insurance Representative]

Yeah, you could just.

[Diego]

Diego. I don't. You could have just given me a fake name. I don't. I don't need to know your real name.

[Ameca Insurance Representative]

Well, I don't think they will find me either because on social media and stuff I'm not like my real name. So.

[Diego]

Yeah, even if your real name was Diego, we weren't. They weren't going to be able to find you on social media just based off the name. Unless if your Instagram handle would literally just be Diego, which is probably taken by some guy and I only have one name.

[Ameca Insurance Representative]

That's dark. The weirdest part though.

[Diego]

Wait, real quick, can you take me off of speakerphone?

[Ameca Insurance Representative]

Oh, I'm sorry. Yeah, I'm. I have my AirPods on, so let me.

[Diego]

Yeah, can you. Yeah, if you could just take me off of the AirPods and just throw me right up on.

[Ameca Insurance Representative]

Yeah, let me know when. There you go.

[Diego]

Great. So you only have one name?

[Ameca Insurance Representative]

Yes. That's. That's weird. And you know what's the weirdest part? When I found my. I don't want to say soulmate and be all she's. You know, that she only has one name, too.

[Eddie]

You're.

[Diego]

Get out of here. Like, legally. You legally only have one name.

[Ameca Insurance Representative]

Really? Yes.

[Diego]

And your girlfriend only has one name. How do you legally only have one name?

[Ameca Insurance Representative]

Oh, well, the. The good part of the story that I didn't even tell you that I'm from Mexico, so it's kind of legal right here.

[Diego]

Is that where you're calling me from right now?

[Ameca Insurance Representative]

Oh, yeah, yeah. I'm in Tijuana, just to be more exact.

[Diego]

Ooh, what's. So what's going on, Tijuana? Because sometimes I hear it's awesome, and then sometimes I hear it's crazy.

[Ameca Insurance Representative]

Yes. And I. You know what? L. I knew that you were going to ask about that, and I didn't know how to just. I mean, I'm not gonna go biased just because I live here, but I think that there is a misconception, you know, like, some people is like, yes, like, we should go to Tijuana is just drink alcohol and party and do all of that. But there's the other part that there's, you know, good coffee, there's the beach. There is everything that people don't see. Obviously, there's some bad neighborhoods as everywhere, but I think that there's some nice places, too, that you. You can just go.

[Diego]

I. By the way, just so you know, because you. You claimed that you are biased. And maybe. Maybe on. Maybe on the technical definition of bias, you are, but I don't think you're biased. Like, that's not. You're the person I want to talk to about it. Like. Like, bias would be like a lady who's never been there that read, like, an article or something, AKA my mom.

[Ameca Insurance Representative]

That's true.

[Diego]

But what. What. What part of Tijuana do you live in? Do you live in a nice neighborhood or do you live in, like, a crazy place?

[Ameca Insurance Representative]

Well, I'm going to be 100% honest, and. Well, the truth is that I don't think I was still going to be biased because I had lived in every single part of it. Like, I live in some of the toughest neighborhoods. I live in the. You know, the mediums. I live in a condo. I have lived in a house. I have lived in another bad neighborhood. So, yeah, dude, like, it is just like, where you go to. I think that that's where you're gonna get, like, maybe not Rob, but they're gonna take advantage of you. But it's not very often, to be honest. Like, when I came here, I thought that they were gonna do that to me because. Because I'm not originally from Tijuana. And now, dude, like, the experiences that I. I've been through, they've been very nice to me.

[Diego]

Where are you originally from?

[Ameca Insurance Representative]

I'm originally from Sonora, but it's like an order. Another border, which is called Douglas, Arizona. So I used to live there back in the days.

[Diego]

What do you do for work in. In Tijuana?

[Ameca Insurance Representative]

I do work in a call center as a qa.

[Diego]

Cool.

[Ameca Insurance Representative]

Yeah, pretty normal right here. I'm not gonna lie like you. If you're in a border, it's pretty much like 90 of the times if you speak English, you're gonna work as a call center. I mean, it's not a must. But me, as I don't have a career, which is kind of part of the. Of the context that I gave you on the message. Right. I don't have many studies, but I. I decided just to go that route. This is the one that is going to be giving me, you know, medical coverage and all that. So. Yeah.

[Diego]

What kind of career did you want to pursue?

[Ameca Insurance Representative]

And this is very tough for me because I don't. I don't want to claim myself as a. I don't even know the word. But, like, you have many towns, like multi.

[Diego]

Multi hyphenate aesthetic.

[Ameca Insurance Representative]

Oh, yeah, there you go. That's the word. I. I wouldn't even know know that word. But I used to like to do, you know, sports. I used to like to do art. Like, my drawing was kind of okay. I mean, I really wasn't that good, but I knew about animation. I wanted to go that route. I started dancing. I was kind of good at breaking. But then.

[Diego]

So wait a minute. I just. Just for some context is you texted me and you texted me and you said, I am a break dancer who barely got into parenting. And I'm having a tough decision to take in life. So let's. Let's back up for a second. You're a breakdancer?

[Ameca Insurance Representative]

Yes, I am a B boy. We're known as that. A break boy.

[Diego]

What. Tell me more about how you got into that.

[Ameca Insurance Representative]

Yes, Well, I. I used to know what it. What it was because, well, I was in the border, right. And we used to just get people from the other side just to come here and just do their showcases and all that. I as a kid enjoy it, but I didn't really got into it since I was just trying everything. But just to go straight to the point, I must say that I just saw it like at 16 when I was just practicing MMA and I was like, you know what, this shit is tight. Like you can use your body to just spin all around and all of that. And I just started. However, I didn't have any like person that taught me like in. In my city. And one day I just came to Tijuana to the trip and then I saw that there was a bunch of dudes and. Well again I. I used to look a lot of YouTube videos and all that and I noticed that a lot of people, famous people was here. So then I just decided later when I. I finished my. My university. Well, not finish it, but when I started and then decided to quit, I just came here to Tijuana and I noticed that there was a lot of level like a lot of dove breakers and I stood here.

[Diego]

How long have you been breakdancing for in total?

[Ameca Insurance Representative]

Well, I have two sides. Like when I started dancing, I would say like 17, 17, 16. But when I got into breaking is when I just got here In Tijuana, like 20, 18 I would say.

[Diego]

How old are you now?

[Ameca Insurance Representative]

I'm 30.

[Diego]

Very nice, very nice. What's the scene like in Tijuana? Is it like cool? Are you meeting a lot of people? Are you going to crazy breakdance parties? Like it sounds like a. Sounds like kind of a crazy interesting community to be a part of.

[Ameca Insurance Representative]

It is, it actually is. However, I did came and there were a lot of events and since LA is just right here in the corner, people used to come and just compete and we used to have high level events. But Covid just. Just got, I don't know, rid of all of that. Meaning that both from now and then there haven't been much events and I actually I'm a part of a community that not, not just breaking, but I promote dancing because there is no promotions anymore and I do work in it.

[Diego]

So is break that was breakdancing at one point like kind of like a main career choice for you? Yes, I will say that that sounds awesome though. Like promoting. So you, you kind of did. You were putting on these events?

[Ameca Insurance Representative]

I'm doing like they're called open style, like wherever people just whichever style, I'm sorry, just comes and just do their thing with the music. Because breaking part of the scene Right here. At least in. In Tijuana, it's a. Since there are. There are a few of them, they just don't like to share maybe that much anymore, and they. They just leave us aside. So I said, like, you know what? Why would I just leave everyone aside? Like, little kids want to learn. Maybe not breaking, but they want to learn another thing. I'm just gonna promote dancing. Like, whichever the. The art form it is, I'm just gonna promote it. And one friend of mine just had that ideal and, you know, and I said, you know, what we should do is. And he's like, fuck yeah. Like, they just do it right away.

[Diego]

That's fucking awesome. So you. You alluded to in your text having a tough decision to make. What exactly? And I'm sorry if I haven't gleaned it already, but what. What exactly would you say is this tough decision?

[Ameca Insurance Representative]

Yes. Well, as I said, right, too. I'm parenting right now. My child is barely just one year old. It's been tough, but that dragged me into thinking, really go outside of the box. And I was like, you know what? Maybe this whole thing, even if I'm promoting it or if I'm just breaking, I don't know if this is all I want to do, you know, like, and I'm not saying, like, just do another hobby or do anything else, but just quitting for all and just go to another thing. Like. Like I used to say, right. I used to like animation. Just go for that. But should I just quit or not? I. I was just having that decision, and it doesn't let me sleep. Like, very likely.

[Diego]

Interesting. Why? So you're deciding whether or not you want to quit breakdancing and pursue something else?

[Ameca Insurance Representative]

Correct. Yes.

[Diego]

Why did having a kid make you wonder if you should quit and pursue something else? Because you already have. Like, because I guess I was thinking it's like, well, if you had a kid, you're kind of like, oh, should I keep? But you have a solid job for money. And this is, I guess, like, why are you debating if you should drop. Why did having a kid make you debate if you should drop one hobby for another?

[Ameca Insurance Representative]

Right. And I'm not dropping the. All the blame on him. Right, Definitely.

[Diego]

No, no, no, no. I don't. I don't take it as. I don't take it as. But I don't take it as blaming your kid for something. I just take it as a life event. Making you reevaluate your life.

[Ameca Insurance Representative]

Yeah, definitely. Right, Right. I just wanted to say that out loud. Because you know, we, we all have a thought like oh, I had a gable it right. But it is not. It just gave me another point of view that maybe I wasn't just looking at. And why am I asking this is because, you know, like I, I, well breaking in all of the community gave me so much and I think I, I really owe them. I think it's just to be accountable, right? But in the other hand I'm like, know what? I just want to do this. But then if I keep breaking like my kid will need attention, you know. And I didn't, I used to, didn't have a job like this stable, I would say I used to do street shows. I used to do, you know, working at hotels, just dancing and do all of that. Like I used, I didn't had a stable job until I got with my partner. So I am thinking I won't have like enough time now just to, to do my arm form anymore. And I don't think I'm enjoying it that much. But I don't know if it's just because of that, Lyle. I'm very like kind of stressed with my mind. Like why don't you just decide and go for something, you know.

[Diego]

So why is, I guess the idea that you're, you don't have enough time. Is it that you don't have enough time to break dance and so you, and because you want to spend more time with your kid and with your job or is that you're simply just not enjoying break dancing?

[Ameca Insurance Representative]

That's a great question. I think that, that is that I don't have the time. But other thing though is that I'm the type of people that they always tell me, right, well, you can just organize yourself when you can have time. But at least for me, like it's like when you're creating a song, right, like you get this motivation and you're like, oh yeah, I'm gonna write the biggest and best song ever. I, I kind of feel that with breaking. But when it's the moment, like I don't know, my kidman's attention. I need to do this. I need to do this.

[Diego]

You don't wanna, you don't let. You don't wanna. You don't like the half assed things. You only want to do something, you can really do it. Yeah, I feel you.

[Ameca Insurance Representative]

Definitely.

[Eddie]

Yes.

[Diego]

Yeah. Okay. Okay. Well, so your kids one, right?

[Ameca Insurance Representative]

Yes.

[Diego]

Does there exist a universe where like, I mean, fuck is he. So you're, I mean your kid's not even like in School anymore? No, I mean, not. Not fucking and not anymore. But yet. I don't know why I said anymore.

[Ameca Insurance Representative]

Yeah, I wouldn't say yes yet.

[Diego]

He's great. He graduated already. So your kids not even in school yet. So, I mean, yeah, you're at a phase, I guess, of parenthood that demands all of your attention. But I. One could say that in the future it'll demand. It'll of course, demand a lot of attention for a long time. But you could say in the future that I won't demand as much attention. Are you. But. But it has nothing to do with not enjoying breakdancing.

[Ameca Insurance Representative]

No, not at all. I think that when I do it, even the slightest time I have and I find that motivation, I'm like, oh, no, I. I remember now. I used to love to do this.

[Diego]

Okay. I don't think there's a. The whole idea of like, oh, I don't want to do it unless if I can full send it is like, well, it doesn't make a lot of sense. If you just enjoy the process of doing it. If you enjoy the process of doing it, then just do it.

[Ameca Insurance Representative]

Right.

[Diego]

You know, put pressure on yourself for it to be the most amazing break dance routine of all time. You don't, you don't have to do that. You can just enjoy it.

[Ameca Insurance Representative]

You know, that's true. Another thing is that I, I used to say that, well, you know, what if I, I didn't do it, but I did want. Wanted to be a parent. But I also, since I have all, all of these things, like physical things that I can do, I was like, well, I'm. Well, I was 29, right. But, well, 28, kind of 29. But I said, you know what, I don't want to be like at that at 35, at least myself. Right? That's my, my opinion. I don't want to be at that at 35. And then my style, it's like 20 or 17, and want to learn to do all of this. And I. And I cannot even stand or just run anymore. I just, I just want to give that to him. So maybe that's why. Yeah, I'm struggling with that. But at the very end, I, I was just considering quitting it because. Because of that. But yeah.

[Diego]

Well, do you have another. I mean, what other hobbies would you even want to do?

[Ameca Insurance Representative]

I think main one, I've been kind of enjoying doing videos, but I don't want to say the worst. I mean, I don't know many, many English just to say a word, but Just kind of like cinematic kind of looking videos, but for. For a dance, you know?

[Diego]

Hmm. That could be cool. Yeah, that could be cool. I like that idea. Yeah, man. I don't know. I don't that you. You want to make videos. It's like. It's like the skateboarding universe. Like, you're a skateboarder, but you also make skateboarding videos, or you kind of take a step back from the physical toll of the thing and get into, you know, supporting the community in other ways. But look, man, I think if you like doing this and you feel like you can balance doing this when you can, then taking care of your kid and making. Making money at your regular job, I don't think that. I think that, like, the whole pressure of like, oh, I don't want to do it unless if I can be amazing all the time is. I don't know. I don't think that's a compelling reason to not do something that you like to do. I. By the way, also, I'm gonna. I'm. I. I bet the. The chat has some questions for you, so I'm gonna. If you're down, take some.

[Ameca Insurance Representative]

Oh, yes, I. I closed Twitch because I'm on my phone, but yeah, here.

[Diego]

Yeah, you can. You can keep. You can keep Twitch closed. I'm gonna. I'll read the. The questions.

[Ameca Insurance Representative]

Go ahead. Just override the Ray Gun questions, please.

[Diego]

Ray gun?

[Ameca Insurance Representative]

Oh, the. The girl. The meme. You know, the. The girl. That is a meme that is from Australia.

[Diego]

I have no idea what you're talking about.

[Ameca Insurance Representative]

Thank God you don't know about it. The chat will know. Chat will know. Definitely. They will know.

[Diego]

Someone. Someone wants to know what your favorite. I have. No, hold on. I. What. What do you. I'm not gonna ask. Someone wants to know, do you. Do you teach your kid hip hop? I assume because he's one years old, the answer is no. But a breakdancing baby would look pretty funny.

[Ameca Insurance Representative]

I mean, I. I play the music definitely not very loud because, well, he's. He's a kid still, but. But he kind of like, you know, like, knock his head into the. The kind of bounds and I'm like. Like he's doing. Or maybe I'm just like right there thinking that is. It's him doing it, right? But I think that I have. I have teach him, but not. I don't know if he has learned that yet.

[Diego]

Someone wants to know what your favorite beat is. I guess. I don't know how you would even answer that question. Like, would you Would you just kind of like beatbox it to us?

[Ameca Insurance Representative]

My favorite beat. Like, Like a song?

[Diego]

Yeah.

[Ameca Insurance Representative]

I don't know. That's like kind of asking like a. A person. I like movies. Like, what is their best of all time, right? I don't know, bro. I think I'm gonna skip that. But. But there's a ton of them. Like, I. I cannot even just name one, but there. There's a lot of good break beats right there.

[Diego]

Oh, this one. Oh, I like this question. If you could be any animal so that you could dance differently as that animal, what animal would you want to be? The dance as.

[Ameca Insurance Representative]

Kudos to the guy that or whoever is the person that adds. Like, I never had thought of that, to be honest. But if I can use it to dance, I think that I will be a turtle.

[Diego]

I. That is the last animal. I thought that you would say, why A.

[Ameca Insurance Representative]

Why Back forever, bro. Like that. I think that that's the. The biggest advantage of all.

[Diego]

Oh, well, yeah. Oh, yeah. You could just get on your back and. And spin and spin and spin.

[Ameca Insurance Representative]

Yeah, I can just go home inside and just be there all day, all night.

[Diego]

Yeah. But then your problem is, is if you want to get back up, you're.

[Ameca Insurance Representative]

Oh, my God, that's true. They die, right? Oh, no, I. Can I just take my answer away?

[Diego]

Someone said, what's your signature move, if you have one?

[Ameca Insurance Representative]

That's. That's a great question too. Well, just to have a little bit of context for you file, a signature move is like, I really good move that you own. Technically, every. Every single move is invented by this point. But like a move. But I would say that my signature move is doing a halo called. A move called Halo to Lotus. Like when you cross your legs. So yeah, you don't have that. Yes, a halo. And then I cross my legs and. And hold it into a freeze. Like you.

[Diego]

If I. If I Google, if I Google this, will it. Will it show? Like. Like, is that a type of dance? A halo break?

[Ameca Insurance Representative]

You can put like B boy. Like B as in boy, B as in boy. O Y. And then. And then Halo. Maybe it's a picture, but that's.

[Diego]

Do you like. Oh, that looks crazy. Do you like, spin on your head and.

[Ameca Insurance Representative]

Yes, I do.

[Diego]

Oh, my God.

[Ameca Insurance Representative]

And my hands and on my back. You know the package.

[Diego]

Someone wants to know, have you ever had to dance to protect your turf from an opposing dance group like in that movie?

[Ameca Insurance Representative]

Oh, yes, I have. And are you serious?

[Diego]

Are you behind? Serious? Really? You have?

[Ameca Insurance Representative]

Yes.

[Diego]

Okay. Sorry. Help. Please tell that story.

[Ameca Insurance Representative]

No, no, no, no. It's actually, I was just gonna tell you, like, yes, I have. And now thinking about it, it kind of feels like a movie. But when you're there, you feel the adrenaline. Like you, you're just gonna get the whole night getting booed because you lost. Not you lost. Right, but it's like, I don't know, dude. Like, like trailer. No, no, no. Not like trailer. Like beat it. Like that thing with knives they do, but with dancing. So that's how it feels.

[Diego]

Wait, so is it. This is where you had to protect your turf? Like, what does that look like? Like people, like, roll up on you. Like, what does it look like to be protecting your turf in a breakdance battle?

[Ameca Insurance Representative]

Well, actually, it's just like that, like they, they threw some moves at you and you're, you're just like, oh, yeah, well, check this out. And then you keep going until someone just does a whack move. And, well, that technically makes you win the battle, right? Or just like, if you hit a beat on point, well, that makes you win the battle.

[Diego]

And they're like, but who, like, who is the judge of who, who is hitting a beat on point? Like, how is this, like, decided?

[Ameca Insurance Representative]

Right? That's there's two points. Like in a competition, in a battle, there's judges, right? But like, we call it ciphers. Like, there's circles, like, you know, in a party that when, I don't know, maybe Run DMC comes on and everybody goes on, on the circle. Like, that's called a cipher. So if you go 101 against someone, there's no judge, but you start to see, like, maybe if you don't know many moves or anything, but you can feel it, maybe you're like, oh yeah, that dude is owning him.

[Diego]

Okay, so it's just, it's like a, it's a vibe as to who won. Like, you know, whether or not you won. Okay, that, that makes sense. That makes sense. Have you ever, have you lost? What, what does it feel like to.

[Ameca Insurance Representative]

Lose that as, As a B boy, as a, as a break break boy? You need to experience losing quite a lot of times before just winning like everything else, right? But it feels rough. Not going to lie. Like, you sometimes think that you won, and then sometimes they do a bad call and they just let win the other dude. But it happens. I, I just finally understood it like maybe one year and a half ago. I, I, I can endure it now. I'm like, oh yeah, man. It's the moment. Another day, next day, another Person is going to be a champ. So I used to feel it that way now.

[Diego]

So this person said. And this is. I. I'm curious about this. What's the penalty for losing the turf war dance? Do you do. Do they, like, take your turf? Like, what do you have to do? You have to move out? Are you not allowed to go there anymore? What's that look like?

[Ameca Insurance Representative]

No, well, I'm not very familiar with turf. Like, turfing is like another dance. But at least in breaking, when you lose, like when you call someone out and then you lose, like, well, you simply lose. Right. And they can just call you whack. This is usually calling someone out and then losing. It's like when you are, I don't know, good at math, then you're like, well, I'm better than you on math. And then someone comes in. This is better than you. You're like, oh, shit, I'm gonna just shut my mouth. So it's kind of just like that in dance.

[Diego]

Okay, so it's. It's just very embarrassing. But you're. You're not, like, legally.

[Ameca Insurance Representative]

Yes.

[Diego]

Banned from everything. Okay, someone said this. This will be the last question. Somebody said, what's the best food going on in Tijuana?

[Ameca Insurance Representative]

Oh, okay. Well, I'm gonna be honest. There's only one food that can be, like, very. That Tijuana is very known for, which is called birria.

[Diego]

Oh, yeah, sure.

[Ameca Insurance Representative]

That thing is. Oh, you know, it's perfect.

[Diego]

Well, yeah, we have, like, Birria taco stands and all that.

[Ameca Insurance Representative]

Yes, like, they do have the best ones right here, but a personal one. And I'm gonna get this, you know, just because. Saying this, but I think faux right here, because there are. There is a lot of Vietnamese people right here, but legit Vietnamese. It's not like, you know, a Mexican person is just doing them. No, it's just like Vietnamese people doing them. It's pretty nice.

[Diego]

Oh, that's cool. Is there ever. Did they ever do, like, a Vietnamese Mexican fusion, like a banh mi taco or whatever they.

[Ameca Insurance Representative]

I. I haven't tried it, but they did one with. What's it called? With chorizo. I don't know if you're familiar with that. Yeah, it's a kind of meat, but I haven't tried it, to be honest. Even though if I'm from here, I never had my thoughts on, you know, I should try that. Nah, just stick with the beef and shrimp.

[Diego]

Diego. Can people. I know you're trying to stay under the wraps, but, like, do you want to promote your break dancing stuff at all? I'm, I'm, I'm certainly curious, but if you want to stay anonymous, that's cool.

[Ameca Insurance Representative]

I just rather not just because I don't want to be like, you know, just because of this. Well, that went viral. I just want like the community for its own name just to be viral. And then whenever you come to Tijuana, you can be like, oh, it's that, that community, bro.

[Diego]

I would, I would. I've never been to Tijuana. I really want to go. If you're still putting on these events, fucking please let me know. Or even if you want to send me a DM on Instagram so I can see, see what's going on, because I would. I don't, I don't have plans to go to Tijuana, but it's definitely a place I may end up at some point. I fucking love to go to one of these breakdance events. That sounds awesome.

[Ameca Insurance Representative]

Definitely, dude. As soon as I see that you are heading down here or you haven't planned, definitely will. But if anyone else from right here in the chat just wants to come, definitely. You guys can just see the whole vibe right here in Tijuana. And I'm pretty sure that you're gonna end up having a nice time right here.

[Diego]

Fuck yeah. Well, thanks for sharing all this, Diego. Is there anything else you want to say to the people of the computer before we go?

[Ameca Insurance Representative]

Yes, I think that I would never talk. That I'll just get in one of your calls, but just into the other side. Don't let. If you ever come, if you ever are going to become a parent, just don't let that suck you up. Like it's just part of the process. And you're gonna love your kids. Like when you see them grown, it's. It's a pretty fucking good moment to see.

[Diego]

Hey, thanks so much, Diego. I'll hopefully I'll see you in Tijuana one day.

[Clyde]

Sure.

[Ameca Insurance Representative]

Is it. Goodbye. Thank you. Bye.

[Diego]

Later, dude. Bye. Bye. Oh, that was so nice. That was cool, man. Hell yeah. Oh, I got to. You know, so I just finished doing this big ass tour and I'm kind of like trying to stay put for a significant amount of time. But I got, I'd love to go back to making those. Those. For those. For those of you who just listened to this on podcast. Although actually I guess I've. I've put audio versions of this kind of stuff out there, but I love doing the in person gecko shit. So maybe I'm a little too tired to do it for the time being, but I'm definitely, I want to return to doing that kind of shit. You know, just fucking hit up this guy Diego and be like and do Being a gecko at a Tijuana party breakdance event. This is awesome. Shout out Diego, shout out life. Shout out Tijuana. And God bless. God bless the universe.

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[Diego]

Hello?

[Eddie]

Hello?

[Diego]

Hey, what's up, man? What's. Who. Who are you? What's your name?

[Eddie]

Yo, it's crazy, bro. It's my first time calling you, and you actually answered.

[Diego]

What's up? How you doing?

[Eddie]

What's up? My name's Eddie. Nice to meet you.

[Diego]

Nice to meet you, too, Eddie. What's. What you. What you up to? How's life?

[Eddie]

Not much, man. You know, just graduated high school. I just got into trade school. I mean, I'm trying to. Trying to become H Vac Tech, you know.

[Diego]

Cool. I like that. What. How was high school? Was you. Did you. Did you have a. Are you gonna miss it, or are you excited to be moving? Moving on in the universe?

[Eddie]

Well, you know, sometimes when I scroll through my phone, I. Yeah, I think about the old times, you know? Feels like it was a decade ago, but it was just, like a couple. Couple months ago, you know?

[Diego]

Did you have a lot of friends?

[Eddie]

Yeah, I'm missing for sure. Yeah, I had a couple friends, but, you know. You know how it is when you graduate. You kind of suck talking to him, but. Yeah, I think I only have, like, one actual friend that I talk to, and we hang out, like, when I'm. When I'm not busy.

[Diego]

Do you. Do you like this friend? Are they someone you think you're gonna spend a lot of time with? Like. Like, you still. Do you see yourself still being friends with them a long time from now?

[Eddie]

Yeah, I hope so. I hope so, man, because I try to. I try to hang out with the people that have kind of the same mentality as me, you know, because that's what they tell, you know, you are who you, like, hang out with. That's what they told me since I was little.

[Diego]

So what's. How would you describe this mentality?

[Eddie]

Well, you know, just trying to progress and, you know, keep moving in life however you can. And it's better if it's, like, however you like it to be, you know?

[Diego]

What. In what ways are you trying to progress?

[Eddie]

Well, I have older brothers, like, way older brothers, because my family kind of had me. Like, my mom and dad had me when I. When they were pretty, like, old. Like, they were, like, 35 when they had me. And so I grew up with a lot of role models and stuff like that, so they, like, made me feel sorry. They made me feel like I had a lot to prove because they all have good families and good jobs. So I'm just trying to be like them, you know? You know how it is.

[Diego]

Sure. Yeah. What can I Hear any, like, who's a role model that you had growing up where you're like, I like. I like that guy's life. I want his life.

[Eddie]

My brother. My older brother, his name is Oscar.

[Diego]

Oscar.

[Eddie]

He has. He has three kids and a wife, and he has his own house. He's got a brand new truck. And every day, like, I'm like, damn. I want to be like him. He's like, he's all. He. He always, like, he always has a goal in his head. Like, he's never. He can't be still, you know, he can't be laying down, watching tv. He's got to be doing something every day. That's what I like about him.

[Diego]

Like, what's he do. What's his. What's his, like, job or a business?

[Eddie]

He's a. He's a contractor and he has. He's a supervisor for. For the district. So he's. He's got, like, he may. He. He maintains his schools. Like, he's. He's a paint specialist, so he. He has his own crew running around, like, schools and stuff like that, painting them. And he makes. He makes good money.

[Diego]

That's cool, man. Do you have a good relationship with him? Do you get to see him pretty often? It sounds like he's like, a little.

[Eddie]

Yeah, yeah.

[Diego]

Older than you are.

[Eddie]

We live. Yeah, we live close to each other. Cool. I actually had to live with them a couple, like, maybe two years because my mom passed away from COVID Oh.

[Diego]

I'm sorry to hear that.

[Eddie]

Yeah. She passed away from COVID new year of 2019, when I was. When I was 16. She passed away.

[Diego]

How's your dad doing?

[Eddie]

My dad, he. Well, he's doing fine. You know, he. He's in disability because. Because he has arthritis on his. On his knee, so he pretty much just stays at home and I live with me. With him. It's me, him and my. My other brother. His name is Robert. He's a trucker.

[Diego]

How's Robert?

[Eddie]

Yeah, he pretty much is. He's doing all right. He doesn't tell me a lot. He. He's a. He, like. He likes to hide his feelings with jokes and stuff like that, so it's kind of hard to get. But I know he. He. I know he. He keeps stuff deep down that he doesn't tell me. And. Yeah, pretty much I just try to make his day, you know, when every time he's in town because he's. He's like, pretty much out all week and comes back on the weekends and.

[Diego]

How'S Your dad doing, doing since your mom died? What's he, what's he been up to? Has he been like working through all that? Like, how's, how's he been?

[Eddie]

Yeah, I mean he's been, he's been, I guess you could say he's been working through it, but you know, it gets to him sometimes. But how can I explain this? So my dad, he, he like, he's not a very like, like a responsible person, you know, he likes to, he likes for you to help him out a lot and. Yeah, like, of course, like I have, I help him. He's my dad and all that. But then again, like there's a, there's a point where like you got, you know, step it down a little bit because like if he, like there's points. Sometimes when I come home and he hasn't ate, like he doesn't, he, he hasn't ate no food, he hasn't nothing. Like he just lays down in bed and I know he has the strength to do it. He's not that he's like just his mentality is just all like wrong, you know, like he doesn't try himself, like push himself, like get up from bed every day. When I come back from school and I see him in bed, I'm like, man, you could have at least got up and stretched your legs, you know, walked around a little bit, try to move those old bones. But it's kind of hard to make them because he doesn't like to take criticism. He starts, he'd either cry or he gets mad.

[Ameca Insurance Representative]

But yeah.

[Eddie]

I'm just trying to pretty much like stay in, in my lane, like trying to progress myself while helping my dad. And I mean, I know I'm not alone, I have a big family, but still, like, I know it mostly falls on me because if like stuff were to get worse, I think I would be the one that would have to end up taking care of him, you.

[Diego]

Know, that's, that's really noble of you. Do you have, you said you have a big family. Who else is helping you out? Is it I, is it Oscar or what's the name of the other one?

[Eddie]

Robert? Oscar.

[Diego]

Are those two, are those two helping you out at all? Or do you have someone out, like an uncle or an aunt helping you out?

[Eddie]

Oh, it's, it's mostly just me and my brother. But my sister in law, my, my brother Oscar's wife, she's like a mom to me pretty much. She calls me every day and she, she, she makes me feel like, like there's still somebody that cares about me sometimes because, you know, I lived with her and we got pretty close. I got pretty, pretty much I got close with all of them. I got close with my nephew and my two nieces. But, yeah, other than that, that's pretty much it, man. Like, I got, I got my dad, I got my family, and I got. Well, relationship wise, I, I'm talking to a girl right now. You know, I like to go to Mexico a lot because I'm from Mexico, Chihuahua, Mexico. And I like to go a lot. I have a lot of family over there, too. I have a big family, man. You name, you name a place, I might have family there, like Oklahoma. Tulsa. I have family in Oklahoma. El Paso. Pretty much in a lot of places, man. Kansas. We, like, spread out. We from Mexico. We say. We came over here. We expanded.

[Diego]

You go to Mexico a lot to visit your family? When's the last time you went?

[Eddie]

Yeah, Summer. Last time I went with summer.

[Diego]

Well. And this girl that you're talking to, she living in Mexico?

[Eddie]

Yeah. Where? It's kind of like a long distance thing, but it's, it's kind of. That thing has been kind of driving me crazy too, man. That was the main reason why I called you. I know you don't really like to do, like, relationship advice, but, but like.

[Diego]

Yeah, we, you know, I, I, I, I, I, I, I like you, Eddie. You got a, you got a real good vibe about you. I'm, I'm happy to talk to you about whatever you want to talk about.

[Eddie]

Oh, thank you so much, man. Yeah. You know what, bro? Every time I fight with her, sometimes I can't sleep. I put you on and I go to sleep. I'm not going to lie.

[Diego]

So, yeah, so you wanted to call it to talk specifically about something that's going on with her. What's, what's, what's up?

[Eddie]

It's because we tend to fight a lot right now. We're not together. We used to be together. We broke up, but we always end up finding our way back to each other in a way. And we end up talking again. Right now. We're talking again. But I'm like. She always makes me feel like what I have to say means nothing because sometimes, like, let's say it's been a couple minutes or like, you know, a couple hours, actually, she doesn't answer. I start to text her too much because, yeah, I guess you could say I, I might have trust issues. I don't know. But she says, like, I don't trust her. And all but, I mean, it's kind of hard to trust somebody, you know, when they're further away. But, I mean, she might not be doing nothing. It might just be me.

[Diego]

Well, let me. Let me. Let me ask you just some. Like, how long have you been dating this girl for? Because you're. You're what, 18?

[Eddie]

I'm 20.

[Diego]

You're 20. How long you guys were dating for?

[Eddie]

We've been dating for, you could say a year now. I've been with her for a little more than a year, but we started dating a year.

[Ameca Insurance Representative]

A year from now, because I know.

[Diego]

You said it's been, like, on and off and stuff, so, like, I guess. When did you guys. How long did you guys meet?

[Eddie]

We. You could say maybe a year and a half ago we met. I still. We met at a party.

[Diego]

But tell me what you mean when you say that she makes you feel like what you have to say doesn't matter.

[Eddie]

Like, every time I express myself, she gets mad, you know, and she says the same thing over and over again. Like, everything you say is just, like, the same. And, like, pretty much every time I try to talk to her, she'll just, like, end up making me feel like I'm the bad guy, you know? And I don't know, maybe. Maybe it might be me or it might be her. I don't know. Then again, it's hard to tell because, you know, it's long distance, but, you know, I like the girl, and if you. Bro. And the crazy thing is she's the only girl I talk to that's not, like, part of my family. I haven't really, like, tried to go out, you know, I just been really focused in school and work.

[Diego]

I guess that. Well, maybe the reason I don't give relationship advice is because it's a kind of a. I don't have my mind made up about a lot of things. About that.

[Eddie]

Yeah.

[Diego]

Sphere. Sphere of life. But my gut tells me a few things, and one of them would be this girl who lives in Mexico. I mean, what's her life like? What's she. What's her universe? Because we know. We know a lot about yours.

[Eddie]

She's going to college right now. She's going. She wants to be a psychologist. And she has her mom, her dad, nice family, you know? Like, she seems real happy, like, with her family. And maybe. Maybe the thing is that makes me feel, like, insecure, you could say, is that I know if something were to happen between us, it would be easier for her to, like, move on and find somebody. Else, you know.

[Diego]

Why do you. Where's that, like, insecurity coming from?

[Eddie]

Maybe with. I don't know, to be honest, man, maybe because I don't feel like, you know, I deserve her. You could say that maybe, right?

[Diego]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Eddie]

So. No, no, I. I know, I know I'm. I know I'm. I know my worth, you know, Like, I know there's not many people out here doing it like me because. Because, you know, there's like. I, I. Well, I went to. Where I went. Where I went to high school. It was a. You could say it was a pretty bad high school. A public high school, Oak Cliff, Texas. And it's. The school's called Kimball, Justin F. Kimball. I'm not sure if you know that school, but. Yeah, I know a couple of my friends that passed away due to choosing the wrong side, like, Like SPM said. What do you say? He said, living. Living your life by the curse. I think something like that. But, yeah, pretty much like most of my. Well, not most of them, but like a couple of them, they passed away due to doing some stuff that they weren't supposed to be doing. And sometimes I feel like that could have been me, you know? But I'm just glad I chose the right, the right, like, right path in life.

[Diego]

Yeah. You should be really proud of yourself about that.

[Eddie]

Yeah. But then again, so I'm not. The another thing that bothers me is that I feel pressured, man. So, like, this, this one time when I went over there to. I was gonna go over there to Mexico, right? I was gonna go visit her. So where I'm from, it's. It's a spot called LA in Mexico. And then she's from Chihuahua. Chihuahua, the city. So it's kind of. It's not that close. But she, she went over there to LA because she has family too, over there. And that's how we met. And the plan was for me to go over there and visit her, but my brother. I was going to go with my brother. And at that time, I didn't have a vehicle and we crashed. We crashed his car. And I told her I'm still gonna go. I'm just not gonna be able to go over there. So maybe you could come over here to, to la, where I'm from, since you have family. And I don't have family over there. Because the plan was my brother was going to take me and see her, like, for like, maybe two days and then come back, but that didn't work out. And I told her I'm gonna be over here. So if you can't come see me, you, you know, pretty much like we're both doing a. Like we're both putting the work to see each other, you know?

[Diego]

Yeah.

[Eddie]

And she ended up telling me that I. I never go through with what I say. And she got mad. She. She did end up come seeing me, but then again, she always uses it against me whenever I don't like, follow through with something. But then again, she doesn't understand that when I'm like that I don't have the luxury, you know, Like, I'm trying to work on myself, trying to get my life right so I can have a life with you, you know? But she just doesn't see that. She just sees the now. Like, she's like, if she. If there's like love and you can do anything and all that, you don't love me. Like, she, she just pretty much makes me feel like shit. You know what I'm trying to say?

[Diego]

Yeah.

[Eddie]

Like.

[Diego]

So Eddie, what. Look, what I was going to say to you is I think especially at 20, was so like young. It's like, I think you should do a little bit of an audit, right. And really think to yourself because you, you want the people who are around you to energize you and make you feel good about yourself and you want to be excited about putting energy into them. And I really feel like you shouldn't settle for anything less than that. And so you really gotta kind of ask yourself if your relationships are making your life better and adding to it or if they're making your life more stressful or more difficult and detracting from it. Especially, you know, you, man, cuz you got a. You know, one of the things I really like about you, talking to you, is that you clearly have a. A real fire in you to make your. To make a good life for yourself. Yeah, it's really. I think that's really cool. I really, I really admire that. I think that's awesome. And I, I think you'll do it because you just have that thing and whatever. Whatever. I. It wouldn't be the worst thing in the world to just see, like focus on that and be focused on yourself and building the, the life that you want. Right?

[Eddie]

Yeah. Maybe I'm just like too focused on the wrong thing, you know? Or maybe. Yeah, maybe I'm also.

[Diego]

And also. And also. And also. Also I. The whole. Because you said a bunch of things, you were like, this person makes me feel like shit. And yeah. Said that you've kind of alluded to this, like, sense of insecurity that you're feeling.

[Eddie]

Yeah.

[Diego]

Which I'm quite familiar with that insecurity. And it's, It'll really make your life worse. And it's a, especially. It's a. That insecurity, you gotta really take that out of your, out of your fucking soul and put it on the counter and look at it and go, where the fuck is this coming from? And how do I deal with it so that I'm happier? You got to figure that out. And I don't, I don't have the answers and how to deal with insecurity. And I, you know, I'm still dealing with a lot of my own insecurity in my life and. But you got it, you gotta, you gotta make these audits because you can't just. Because if you just keep going without thinking about these things and without, you know, like when you, like when you text your girlfriend twice because you think that she's cheating on you or you need, you need from her. You got it.

[Eddie]

Yeah.

[Diego]

You got to understand why you're doing that. Because. And again, I'm telling you this because I've been in a lot of situations like that where, where my insecurity has prompted me to, I think, act in, in ways that I'm like, I don't think that that's what a secure person would do. And so.

[Eddie]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Diego]

So you really want to be very, very fucking intentional and conscious about this so that you're, you're moving forward more positively, you know? Does that make sense?

[Eddie]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, I get it. I get it.

[Diego]

It's like, why are you. It's like, it's like, why are you insecure? Well, you're like, like the thing of, like, I don't deserve her. It's like, well, why do I think I don't deserve her? It's like, well, because I'm looking at my life and I'm like, oh, I. I'm actually lacking these things that I wish I had. And it's like, well, man, you can have them. You can do whatever you want.

[Eddie]

Yeah, you're right.

[Diego]

You're Eddie, right?

[Ameca Insurance Representative]

Yep.

[Diego]

You can do whatever you want, Eddie. You can do whatever you want.

[Eddie]

Yeah, I can. Yeah, I guess you're right.

[Diego]

You're.

[Eddie]

You're right. Phone. Cuz I guess maybe where all that insecurity is coming from is that she, like, you know how she tells me I don't follow through and maybe like, she tells me, I'm like, that makes me feel like I'm not like worth it, you know, and maybe the insecurities coming from that she'll find somebody that she thinks is worth it.

[Diego]

Then let her do that.

[Eddie]

You're right. At the end of the day, if.

[Diego]

That'S what she wants to do. But, but your, your. I don't. I. Yeah, I think, I think handling your own insecurity and dealing with it is like a really important part of life. And for some people it's a, it's a longer journey than others, but it's something to check and not just. It's, it's something that you, I don't think is good to let go unchecked.

[Eddie]

Yeah, yeah, I get you, man, but you're.

[Diego]

I like really, Eddie? I think you've got a good path ahead of you. I, I hope you're not. Don't fucking drive, drive yourself insane taking care of your, your dad and, and dealing with this girl in Mexico. Cuz you. I think you deserve a little, a little effort into yourself, right? Because you got a good vision. You're looking at your brother, you're like, oh, he's got a family, he's got a, a, he's financially self sufficient. And you, you have strong goals. You want a good life for yourself. And you, you seem like you're here to build it and I mix. I'm excited for you, Eddie.

[Eddie]

Yeah, thank you, man. Yeah. I only got three more, three more months to go and I graduate. I already have my certification. I just gotta wait till I graduate though. But everything, everything's looking good.

[Diego]

Is there any, is there anything else you wanted to talk about before we go or anything?

[Eddie]

No, no, man, that's it. Hey, this really helped me, man. I appreciate it.

[Diego]

Okay, good, good, good. I'm really happy to hear that. Good luck, Eddie.

[Eddie]

Appreciate it, man. You have a good one. All right.

[Diego]

Hey, take care.

[Eddie]

Take care.

[Diego]

I liked that. I liked that guy a lot. He was cool. It gets, it, it gets harder and harder to do this show, I think as I, as I continue moving forward because I'm like, I don't. Well, I do, I don't, I don't. I do feel like I know logically the correct answers to some things and that that guy was at a, A, an interesting stage of his life. But then sometimes I'm like, I've got, I'm, I'm crazy. This is boring. I don't, I don't, I don't. I don't like these post call thoughts. We're keeping them in, but let's keep them in and let's, let's. We're gonna keep these post call thoughts in. I thought I. I thought I had something vulnerable and sage to say at the end of this phone call, and I didn't. And so I'm gonna make a fart noise. No, I'm not. I'm not gonna make a fart noise. That sound. That felt weird. Okay, I'm sorry. I drank a lot of mountain. I drank some Mountain Dew, but I feel good. I feel good. I drink some diet Mountain Dew. It's got. I think it's got. How many grams of caffeine does this diet Mountain Dew have? This is not a sponsorship, by the way. I just. I just like Diet Mountain Dew because it's got caffeine. Oh, it's got 91 milligrams. That's a lot. That's like a cup of. There's a cup of coffee. I'm not done with this post call thought. I'm not done with this post call thought. I feel like I still have something left to say. That was one of those phone calls. That was honestly one of those phone calls just now where I was like, I was. I was on a. My personal level. I would. I, I, as a participant in that conversation, was so much less interested in any advice I had to give to that guy. And I was more interested in just looking into the window of his life because he's got an interesting life. I hope it works out. It probably will. I, again, he ranks. He ranks low. The list of callers where I hang up the phone and I'm like, I don't think that's. Things are gonna work out for that person. I rarely think that, though. I'm tr. I'm pretty optimistic because if, if I can't be optimistic for other people, I can't. I don't think I could be off, like, if I, like, if I called, like. Okay, what I meant to say, if I can't be optimistic for other people, I don't think I can be optimistic for myself. You know, like, if I was talking to myself on the phone and then I hung up, hopefully I'd be like, you know, I'm not worried about that guy. I think he's gonna be all right. So I gotta be optimistic for other people I talk to on the phone. If I can't be optimistic for myself when I talk to myself on the phone, does that make sense? This is good. This is good. All right. This is the end of my post call thought right now.

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[Clyde]

Hello, can you hear me?

[Diego]

Yeah, Hi, what's your name?

[Clyde]

Hi, my name is Clyde.

[Diego]

Clyde.

[Clyde]

Sorry. Yeah.

[Diego]

You're, you're, you're a little nervous.

[Clyde]

I'm a little nervous, nervous guy right now.

[Diego]

Well, let me tell you something. This is the, this is my new thing that I say to people who are nervous talking on this is and because I really mean it is that this is. This phone call right now is is one of the least important things you will ever do in your life. You will. You will do at least 300 more important things in your life, hopefully many more than whatever this phone call is about to be. So the stakes.

[Clyde]

True.

[Diego]

The stakes are incredibly low for this.

[Clyde]

It's not, like, objectively important, but it's.

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Kind of cool, you know, it is kind of cool. It's. It's cool to be. It's cool that we're talking, but the stakes are low. There's no. This is not. You're not being graded for this. You're not. This is. You've already. There's no. There's no reason to be. To be nervous.

[Clyde]

True, true, true. How's your day going?

[Diego]

My day's actually going pretty good. I'm back in New York for the first time in, like, a month because I was away. I'm back in my actual studio, office space thing, and I feel. I feel good. I'm very comfortable with where I am at in literally this specific moment talking to you. How was your day?

[Clyde]

Not bad, not bad. My cat. My cat got sick this weekend, so that was. That was a bit stressful. But I took her. I took her to the vet today. She's kind of tweaking right now, looking at the wall, because there's something living in my walls, which is fun, but she's getting better, which is cool, but I gotta shove stuff in her mouth.

[Diego]

It's always fun to. It's always fun to have a cat. Clyde. What's up, man? Would you want. What you want to talk about today?

[Clyde]

Well, what to talk about? Huh? I don't know. I forget. I guess I kind of feel like I'm in. I'm in limbo right now. You know, I've been. I got out of college about a year ago. I'm. I'm in Ohio. Was born in Ohio, raised in Ohio, went to college in Ohio. Now I'm working in Ohio, and I'm kind of just you know, doing enough to pay my bills and get by, but nothing really crazy has been going on.

[Diego]

Do you desire for more crazy things to be going on?

[Clyde]

I want to travel more. Like, I got this. I got. I live with a roommate, and he's traveling, like, all the time. Like, every month. He's like, oh, I'm going to. I'm going to a national park. I'm going to Minnesota. I'm going to Michigan, going to go kayaking in Arizona. And I'm like, well, I want to do that, but I died.

[Diego]

Well, you know, you don't. Is it a financial thing?

[Clyde]

It's a financial thing mostly, you know, you.

[Diego]

So you grew up in Ohio, you went to college in Ohio, and you have a job in Ohio?

[Clyde]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Diego]

Is it. Is it a good job?

[Clyde]

Yeah, it's pretty interesting, actually. I do. I do background investigations for the. The Fed. Mr. Biden.

[Diego]

Do they pay you sufficiently?

[Clyde]

Well, the thing is, it's my first year, and they. They, like, sponsored some stuff, so they're paying me low for the first year, but hopefully I will be getting paid more after this year.

[Diego]

Are you making enough. Are you. Are you making enough that you can save?

[Eddie]

Yeah.

[Clyde]

I'm now at the point. Yes. I recently did some financial magic.

[Diego]

What is your roommate. What's your roommate do for a living?

[Clyde]

He's a server. He just be. He serves really good Italian food. But I think it's like he got, like, his college all paid for.

[Diego]

Okay.

[Clyde]

Mostly. And I did not.

[Diego]

So you have. You have. You have debt and he's not.

[Clyde]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Diego]

Mm. Well, where do you want to go?

[Clyde]

Oh, I want to go to. I really want to go see the Grand Canyon. I really want to see the Grand Canyon. I want to go camping, and I want to kayak in the Grand Canyon. That's. I want to see that great crack so bad.

[Diego]

How much would it cost to go to the Grand Canyon?

[Clyde]

I don't know.

[Diego]

See, that's. That's my. That's what. That's. That's where I'm gonna. That's where I'm gonna stop you.

[Eddie]

You.

[Diego]

Is. Because at Le. You, like, before you say that you can't do this thing, you should at least know how much. You should at least look into it. You know what I mean?

[Clyde]

Yeah.

[Diego]

Like, how are you. Like, how are you going to know whether or not you could afford to do something if you don't even know how much the thing cost to do?

[Clyde]

That's true. That's because you.

[Diego]

Because a lot of these. Because a lot of these things you can look into and realize that it. Sure, it's caught, you're not gonna get there for free, and you will obviously have to save, but it's could be way less than you thought it was. Whereas to just say, oh, it's probably too expensive and I'm never going to be able to go is. Can be kind of defeatist.

[Clyde]

That's true. That's.

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[Clyde]

I think that's just, like, my mindset, I guess, like, growing up with my family, because they were always like. Like, our vacations were like, let's go to Pennsylvania and see grandpa and Grandpa. Grandma and.

[Diego]

Sure.

[Clyde]

Like, the first time I ever got on a plane was, like, when I got this job and they flew me out to, like, go train, like. And I was like, this is so cool. Oh, my God. They give you peanuts and water. This is crazy.

[Diego]

Mm.

[Clyde]

But that's. That's true.

[Diego]

So true. I just. Here's the thing, man, is if you're. You're in Ohio and you want to travel and you've never been out before your know, you have a job, it's a bummer to have student debt. But, like, if I were you, I would just go on the Internet and, like, figure out how much it costs to do these things. And then, like. Like, have you done the math of, like, how much you have to save? And.

[Clyde]

Lately I've been recovering my savings because I. My car, like, died this summer, right? And I've just. I bought a car, like, outright, so my savings just, like, demolished, and I've been trying to build it back up, and then my cat just got sick this weekend, and I just spent, like, man, I think I spent, like, thirteen hundred dollars in two days on her. But it's okay because I love her and she's great. She's pretty cool even though she's got three legs.

[Diego]

Sounds like a nice cat.

[Clyde]

Nah, she's evil, but cool.

[Diego]

Well, look, man. Yeah, that's. That. That's. That's all I would say is just, like. Just do. So do some math on it. If you do some math on it, you'll eventually get to go.

[Clyde]

Hell, yeah. Okay. I think I'll take a look at the great crack.

[Diego]

Is there anything else you want to say to the people of the computer before we go, Clyde?

[Clyde]

Well, I hope everyone has a great day, and I hope everyone had a great Thanksgiving. And I hope everyone has a good further holiday venture.

[Diego]

Good luck, Clyde. I hope. I hope you see the Grand Canyon. I hope you don't fall in. There's a lot of people who fall in.

[Clyde]

Nah, nah, nah. Thank you.

[Diego]

All right. See you, Clyde.

[Clyde]

See you again.

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