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Lyle
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Caller Sapphire / Caller Fran
Hi. How are ya? I'm eating carrots. I apologize.
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Lyle
You're eating carrots?
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Caller Sapphire / Caller Fran
Yeah, I'm just snacking. Sorry about that.
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Lyle
That's okay. It's okay. You can do whatever you want. You know, there's no rules.
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Caller Sapphire / Caller Fran
Okay. I did not expect. Oh my gosh, my heart. I did not expect to like there my Heart is beating fast. I didn't expect to actually get through.
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Lyle
What is your name? I'm gonna call you Carrot. Oh, Sapphire. Okay, we'll go.
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Caller Sapphire / Caller Fran
Sapphire. Yeah.
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Lyle
Sapphire. Oh, crap. What was I gonna say? Sapphire? Have we ever spoken before, Sapphire?
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Caller Sapphire / Caller Fran
No, this is my first time.
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Lyle
Well, what's up, dude? How's life?
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Caller Sapphire / Caller Fran
Okay. Life is real funny right now, I'm not gonna lie. Yeah, no. So for a little while now, I've been staying at a shelter. And so I've just been there and doing their program and saving money and everything. And I. Yeah, I. I guess I'm struggling to figure out what exactly it is that I even want out of life anymore. The last few years have been, like, ridiculous, and I feel like they kind of took away my motivation to, like, do anything at all. But every day I wake up, I go to work, I do my job, which it's actually really funny because my job is providing clothes, shoes, school supplies, etc, to kids in the school district that are in the same situation as me. So it's actually funny because I've actually helped some of the people that I like that I live in that place with. So that's pretty cool. But also funny.
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Lyle
How old are you?
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Caller Sapphire / Caller Fran
I'm gonna be 30 at the end of the year.
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Lyle
Okay.
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Caller Sapphire / Caller Fran
Yeah.
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Lyle
And no, I guess I was wondering if you were, like, in school. Like, what school level is this? Like, high school? College? Middle school?
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Caller Sapphire / Caller Fran
I'm sorry, could you repeat that question?
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Lyle
Oh, sorry. What, like, level of school is this that you're working at?
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Caller Sapphire / Caller Fran
Oh, like K through 12 district. And, you know.
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Lyle
Okay, cool, cool, cool. Oh, you're helping. Okay, I'm sorry. Okay, okay, sorry. I'm an idiot. Okay, no, now I understand. I'm like, no, I'm dumb. I'm like. I'm like, is this lady in middle school and she's helping out and she's like, oh, it's ironic because I'm seeing the people I go to middle school with. I don't know why my brain went out. No, you're helping people who went to the same middle school, high school that you went to that were in a similar situation as you. Okay, I understand now.
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Caller Sapphire / Caller Fran
No, I'm helping, like, any kid in the entire school district. It's a big school district. And then there's about 9,000 kids that identify as homeless in the district. And that includes living in hotels, motels, shared housing due to, like, financial difficulty and things like that. Living in a car, living in a shelter. So that is kind of what that encompasses. So that's it. Anyway, sorry. I, I don't even know. I guess I just called because I, I, I just wanted to just say hi. I don't know. This is cool.
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Lyle
So how long did you say you've been living at the shelter for?
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Caller Sapphire / Caller Fran
Oh, so. And I keep saying things are funny, and they're not actually funny. I just say that. I guess it's been like a year. It's been a while. It's been a while. But I've been saving, so that's good.
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Lyle
How is life at the shelter?
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Caller Sapphire / Caller Fran
Okay. I'm very grateful. I want to just say that right off the bat. Super duper grateful. It's one. First of all, it's the best one around. They are a Christian organization, so they do mandate that you go to their church for the first at least 90 days, and then you can start branching out and finding your own church. But they do require that you go to church three times a week, so. And you have to go to theirs at least once. And so that's Sunday morning, Sunday evening, and Wednesday evening. And when I first got there, it was very funny because. I'm sorry, I need to stop saying things are funny when they're really not. When I got there, the first sermon that I was, you know, I attended, the pastor said that we were all there because our sins brought us there. And, you know, he preaches some really interesting things. You know, mostly just talks about himself. So that's interesting. And there are a lot of rules that you have to follow, and there's not a lot of freedom. And I do understand it. I really do. But I also think that some of the people who work there aren't as compassionate as you would expect one in this field to be. And there's a lot of, like, you can tell there's people who kind of look down on you or who thinks that you don't, you know, you couldn't possibly know any better than they do about, like, because you're in a, because you're in a certain situation, you know, they kind of assume that you don't really know what you're doing, as opposed to, like, things just happened. And yeah, sometimes maybe it is that you don't know what you're doing, but they can't make that assumption and apply it to everyone. I think that's unfair. But really, you know, three meals a day, I get to share just a room with just one person. Yes, there's curfews and stuff like that, but there's, like, they have activities. They do require you to attend those activities, and sometimes you don't really feel like it. But who am I to not go to something if they're providing a roof over my head, they're helping me save. I don't have to pay rent. I get three meals a day. You know what I mean? So really. And we have, like, a case manager, a biblical case manager, they call them. And my experience so far has been pretty good. Not everybody's had the same experience, but you just got to follow the rules, I guess.
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Lyle
So this is like a private shelter?
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Caller Sapphire / Caller Fran
Yes. So it's completely funded by private donations.
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Lyle
Interesting. I've never heard of that before. I know about, like. I mean, I know about, like, the whole thing of, like, you know, Christian missionaries, like, you know, helping the less fortunate and doing all that stuff. But I've never. It's interesting. I've never heard of, like, a thing where it's like, oh, you have to like. I always kind of. I guess when I've seen it out in the wild and whatnot. It's been like a, you know, hey, the church is doing, like a feed the homeless thing. But I've never seen it be like, okay, you have to go to church.
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Caller Sapphire / Caller Fran
Yeah, no, they. They make you. You could get written up if you don't go. You could get written up if you're late. You can get written up if your shoes are peeking out from under the bed. There's inspections, like, pretty frequently about, like, for room inspections. And there's, like, a list of things you have to do to, like, maintain, like, cleanliness. You do have chores that you're assigned for. On my floor, it changes every month, and I have one chore on. Oh, gosh. Oh, my God. Why can't. I think right now, One short on Monday and then another tour and then two more chores on Thursday. And it's just so that we maintain our living space.
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Lyle
What are the sort of rules for the inspection?
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Caller Sapphire / Caller Fran
Okay. Make sure that when you leave for the day, you don't leave anything on. No lights on. Like, you know, like, basic things, right? No lights on. Make sure that your AC in the room that you turn off the. There's, like, this setting called constant fan. Make sure that's off. Make sure that it's at 70 or they're going to lock it and make it to where you can't set it any lower than 70, which is torture because it gets really hot in there and there's no ventilation. Um, it's really. It's. It's an old building, so there's that and then make sure that you like vacuum, make sure you take out your trash, make sure you wipe things down, make sure it's not dusty, make sure you make your bed. Like it just needs to look presentable for like if a donor wants to tour and kind of like see who like what they're going to be donating to. You know what I mean? So that's kind of what, what, what that's for. That's basically it. And there's. So they, they have the women and children shelter, they call it the family home. And then they also have the men's center, which is a hotel that was converted to like a shelter for men. And their rules are more strict. They have to go to church every day. They don't get their, they get their phone taken away for their first 90 days or something. And then when they do get it back, they can only have it at certain hours. And it's like all this stuff. Oh, and here's the thing I don't like. Let me explain. There is this program, I'm not going to say the name of it because I feel like that gives away too much, like more than I've already given away. But basically if you get there and you don't have a job or you have a job, they don't particularly think is gainful. Like if you don't have gainful employment. So let's say that you're working at a gas station. They don't like that. What they make you do is their program. They call it a program that's supposedly meant to help you and everything, but the way it works is you go and you work in either their kitchen. So like the people that serve us food most of the time are people who stay there like that. They prepare the food and they service food. They're people who live there. So you do that. You can't opt out of that. Right. If you don't have gainful employment, you can't opt out. Or you work in their in house child care center or you can even work at their like bargain store or whatever. So there's that. But so this program, they, you have to do this program and they, they only give you a stipend. They call it a stipend and it's $25 every two weeks. So there's actually. Yeah, so there's definitely things that can be improved because I'm glad I came in with gainful employment because I, I wouldn't have lasted there if I had to. So you, if you need to pay things like A storage. You're out of luck. And then they kind of make you prioritize them and what they want over, like. Like, even I have a friend who was told explicitly, if you get an. If you get an interview offer for the day that we have our meeting, and it, like, inter. It interferes with our meeting, tell them, like, call them and reschedule. And I'm like, but this woman is homeless with children, and she needs a job. And if somebody's calling her for an interview, that's priority. But they don't see it that way, so they're very funny like that Sapphire.
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Lyle
How'd you find this place?
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Caller Sapphire / Caller Fran
So when I was living with a family member and some other people that were staying there, long story short, I. Okay, okay. There was like, drug use in the house, and I was not okay with that. My stuff was being stolen and sold so that these people could go and buy drugs. And, like, it was real crazy. It was a mess. There were animals that weren't really being taken care of, and, like, I had to, like, pitch in for those things. And it was. It was crazy. And then when the part. The moment where I said, I have to leave besides being kicked out, every time I asked a question, like, how much do we owe the landlord or whatever the case may be? And they didn't like questions. So, like, every time I asked a question, they were like, I don't want you here. You gotta leave. It doesn't work that way. You can't just ask me how much we owe the landlord. And it's like, okay, whatever. So the day that I decided I needed to leave that place was when somebody in that house just did something really violent to. Not to me, but in front of me that resulted in. I just don't want to say it because it's really, you know, like, this person can really get in trouble. But they did something really intense, really violent. So they did that. And then they. Thank you. They. They actually did that in front of two kids that stayed there. And it was. And then they told me their kids, actually. And then they told me that, well, my kids have already seen enough. Like, you need to leave. And so when they were out of. Out of the state for some work things, they actually left the car and they said I could use it. And so I was out sick from my. My job with COVID and flu at the same time. And then I basically took the car and started going around to. I called 2, 11 looking for resources, and they kind of gave me a few. And so I went to the first one and they said, oh, well, we can't really help you, but go check out this place down the street. So when I went in, they had me fill out an application because they go by applications and there's a waiting list of hundreds. So they had me fill out an application and the person who's my case manager today, she is the one who accepted it. And then they called me for an interview. And like, I did this in secret from, you know, my family member that I was staying with. And I. And I went and did there did an interview because you have to do an interview with like, like a panel interview type thing with different case managers and stuff. So I did that and. And they told me that I was accepted and that I needed to move in that Saturday. And then I did. And when I tell you, I remember when I first got there, I heard like footsteps down the hall and I was like, laying down. Because I'm like, well, what do I do? They're like, well, you can like, chill. You can do whatever you want. So like, I'm like, well, it'd be really nice to lay down. I'm really tired. So I was laying down and I heard footsteps and I got this like, my heart started pounding because I'm like, oh my God, I'm laying down. You know, so and so is going to be mad at me because I'm not up and doing whatever. And then I was like, oh, wait, I don't have to panic like that anymore. I'm okay. Like, everything's okay. So I have had a lot of peace here, but it's also not been easy not having like, freedom and stuff and not being able to stay overnight anywhere because they're like, well, if you can stay overnight somewhere, then you have somewhere to stay. And it's like, no, it doesn't work that way, actually. It's just, you know, how many, how.
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Lyle
Many other people are in this place with you? Like, not like, like how many other people are like, staying there?
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Caller Sapphire / Caller Fran
Well, I know that there was. There's 89 kids there and many more adults. So I don't know. It's definitely well over a hundred. I know on my floor there's like, how many ladies. It's like 11, 12 ladies on my floor.
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Lyle
This is, this is kind of why I've never heard. I mean, I've. I've. Of course I've heard of like, you know, like government sponsored shelters, but I've never heard of like these like, strict religious.
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Caller Sapphire / Caller Fran
Well, they don't really call themselves a Shelter. They call themselves a residential program or, like a transitional living program, which I think is. Is more suitable because they don't really offer emergency shelter. Not at the women's center. They're more of, like, you apply, they accept you, and then you do the program, and you have to go to their Bible class, and you have to go to their. What's the other thing? You have to go to a parenting class, even if you don't have. And you don't want kids, but you have to do the class. And if you don't do it, you know, if you get written up three times because you didn't follow the rules, you got back after curfew, et cetera, you know, then you get written up three times, you're out. Yeah.
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Lyle
So. Okay. I mean, let's talk about you, Sapphire. What? So you have this job. You're helping out kids in the school. Is it a paid job?
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Caller Sapphire / Caller Fran
Yeah, no, it is a paid job. So far, I've earned a paying job. I've had.
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Lyle
Great. And you're saving up some money. Great. Do you have. Do you have, like, friends and family?
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Caller Sapphire / Caller Fran
I do have family. Are they reliable? Are they able to help me? Not at this time. My brother is moving to a different country, and he's been struggling, too, lately. He's moving to different. My older brother moving to a different country. My younger brother was recently arrested, not for the first time, but for what is it fleeing or attempting to elude? And that was multiple counts. They had to stop the car with a spike strip. So that's interesting. So he can't help me. He's homeless right now himself, and he refuses to follow anyone's rules, so he declines. You know, my. Like, me telling him, go to the shelter. Like, what are you gonna do? You want to be homeless or go stay at a shelter and have to follow a few rules? You know, I understand it's strict, but, like, what are you gonna do? And he's like, oh, but they won't let me smoke weed there. And I'm like, well, so you'd rather be homeless and smoke weed? Okay, great. My sister is. That's. She's my sister, and I'm just gonna leave it at that. I love. I love them all, but, you know, she's not able to help me. She's got, you know, obligations of her own to take care of, and, you know, so there's that. And these are all, like, I've helped my siblings a lot when I was in a good, you know, place, and I had my own Place for. For five years, you know, in the years leading up to this, I have my own place and everything, so I've helped them, they've stayed with me, they've borrowed my car, et cetera.
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Lyle
Okay.
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Caller Sapphire / Caller Fran
And then I have my parents. Not an option. My mom, different state, my dad out of the country, and he's a jerk, and I don't like him very much, but he is married to a very wealthy woman, so good for him. My. The person who raised me, like, as my stepdad, another state, and he's, you know, remarried now, and he doesn't really care about me anyway. And my grandparents are living in, like, hotel room here, and my grandma's a hoarder, so her house in a different. Like she has a house in a different city, and then she has, like, a hotel room that she privately owns here in this city where I live. And so she's taking care of my great grandma and there's no room there. And like I said, she's a hoarder. It's very. You have to, like, walk sideways to, like, get through that. The place. So I can't really stay with her. So that's it. Sorry. My answers are very long winded.
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Caller Cat
I call.
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Lyle
No, it's okay. So. Okay. Well, I'll say this thing. It's nice, I think. What is. I guess what's good to me about this phone call is that, you know, though you've been there a year, you don't seem to have drank the Kool Aid.
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Caller Sapphire / Caller Fran
What do you mean?
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Lyle
Like, I don't know. It seems as though this is a. Like, I assume you want to leave this place, you're trying to save up and you want to get out of.
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Caller Sapphire / Caller Fran
That's the plan. I've been looking at apartments, actually, lately.
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Lyle
Okay, great. Because this play. I don't know these, and I don't. I'm. I'm making assumptions about things that I don't know. But it seems like the kind of place that I guess wants you to be in some form of, like, submission to them, you know, And I'm sure that a lot of people go through this system and have gone through the things you've gone through and have, you know, been in this place and they find themselves, you know, again, in some form of. Of submission. And I don't know. I guess. I don't know. I guess who they're submitting to. Do you know what kind of. I guess what I'm saying, like, this seems like the kind of place where they want you to, like, join them. And serve their mission and their rules and be their kind of like, you know, submit to whatever their. Their thing is. Am I crazy? Am I talking crazy?
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Caller Sapphire / Caller Fran
Um, I am so sorry. Could you repeat that last part? I'm so.
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Lyle
No, it's okay. I'm. I'm being vague, but, you know, you're. Yeah. You know, I think. I think that it's good that you have a plan to get out of the situation, you know. Sorry, I'm reading the chat of on the Twitch, and a lot of people are saying it sounds like. A lot of people are saying it sounds like a cult. And maybe that got into my head, but this person said this sounds cultist, but this is how all transitional living facilities work.
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Caller Sapphire / Caller Fran
Yeah. Everywhere you go, they're going to have rules and things like that that they expect you to follow when it's actually not my first time being in a situation like this when I was like 10 years ago, I. My things happened with my parents and everything, and my stepdad stole my last bit of money and I didn't know what I was going to do. And we were getting kicked out of this place that we were in because apparently they were not paying rent at all. And so I went to, like, you know, a shelter then, and I was only there for a few months, but. But it's same thing, rules, curfew, don't bring food inside, that kind of thing, you know, like, make sure things are nice and neat when you leave. I know there's always rules and. And I guess I. I guess I don't know if it's clear that, like, while they're like. While, like I have been saying, like, yeah, there's a few things that could change. It doesn't change the fact that I am grateful and that my experience is, despite being a little stressful sometimes, has largely been a really positive one. And so I guess I. I'm hoping that that comes across, though I don't know if it does. And I don't know if the people listening have, like, taken that from what I said.
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Lyle
I think the people listening and me are. I probably, I'm going to assume, are just glad to hear that you feel as though you have a path forward that is, you know, your own. I would say.
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Caller Sapphire / Caller Fran
Well, thanks. And thanks to the people listening too, for their positivity.
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Lyle
Well, shit, Sapphire, I appreciate you sharing all of this with us.
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Caller Sapphire / Caller Fran
I appreciate you listening. I don't really have people to talk to, so. Thank you.
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Lyle
Is there any, you know, is there any other kind of aspect of anything at all. Or of any of this or whatever that you. That you wanted to talk about.
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Caller Sapphire / Caller Fran
Um, you know, I guess I wasn't really 100% clear on what I was going to talk about when I got on the phone anyway. So I'm just glad that. I'm just glad that I got to talk to you at all. And I appreciate that you listened.
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Lyle
Rock and roll. Well, thank you, Sapphire. Good luck to you. And you have. Have a good rest of your day.
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Caller Sapphire / Caller Fran
You too. Goodbye.
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Lyle
Bye, Sapphire. That was interesting. I know. I've never heard of like the. But she was right about like, I guess all of. All of these places have rules, you know? I mean. Yeah, I don't know. I've never. I've. I've never heard of like a religious private shelter that like, makes you go to church. I don't know. I feel like I'm probably. There's probably gonna be people in the Spotify comments that are like, this is that. This is the. The Jenkins whatever in Southern Oklahoma. And I'm like, I don't. I'll. I guess I'll figure that out when I read the comments. But I don't even. I don't even give a fuck about any of that shit. I'm just glad that this lady seems to be getting on her feet and doing okay. So that's good. Hello?
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Caller Cat
Oh, my God, you're kidding me.
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Lyle
What's up? What's up?
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Caller Cat
This is Cat. We talked. We talked a while ago.
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Lyle
How long ago did we talk?
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Caller Cat
Just like, let's see, a couple of months, I guess. I'm the one who makes stickers.
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Lyle
You're the one who makes stickers? You'll have to be. Can you give me way more specific?
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Caller Cat
Yeah, sorry, I'm like, just waking up. Okay.
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Caller Sapphire / Caller Fran
Wow. I.
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Lyle
Wait, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. Actually, are you. You're like a coach of some kind, right?
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Caller Cat
Yeah, exactly.
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Lyle
Okay. Yes. All right. I remember exactly who you are.
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Caller Cat
Visiting my mom and my brother. Yeah. And I actually happen to be back in Maryland right now visiting my mom and my brother, so.
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Lyle
Yeah, no, I remember our conversation. I liked our conversation very much. I remember. I don't remember. Like, I know we talked for a long time about just life in general, but. Yeah, I know. I got to ask you. So did you get any coaching client? I know that, I know that. You know, I don't think people come on here to self promote, but I really liked our conversation and so I was super happy to have you promote yourself on there. Did you get any good? Any, Any Feedback or clients or anything from our conversation.
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Caller Cat
Dude, I did. I got two clients from our conversation, as well as a really awesome coffee with somebody else who wants to do, like, more of what I'm doing. So I had, like, a lot of really cool connections based on that episode, actually.
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Lyle
Wait, that's so cool. You met somebody in real life who messaged you from the show.
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Caller Cat
I had multiple people message me from the show and join my coaching program, and I did one on one coaching with two different people who found me because of that episode.
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Lyle
That's so cool. I mean, I don't know. You don't have to get into specifics if these are, like, private things. But, like, what. How did the sessions go?
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Caller Cat
Yeah, awesome. They've actually both, like, moved on from coaching in really awesome ways. So, one, I don't want to get too specific because I haven't actually asked them if I can talk about them. But one decided that based on our focus in coaching, which was focused a lot on, like, mental health and just, like, solidifying your routine as a creative and as a business owner before, like, giving away all of your time to all of these other things, and essentially because of that focus, he decided, you know what? What I really want right now is therapy. So he left coaching to go pursue therapy, which I was like, that's perfect. That's amazing. That's exactly what should happen. And then the other had a really similar story of, like, they came to me saying, okay, I want to do something else with my life, not what I'm doing. And then they left coaching because they had transitioned into doing the thing with their life.
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Lyle
Oh, so what do they end up doing with their life? Or is that. I guess that's too much to add to that.
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Caller Cat
Probably too much. But they landed their dream job, essentially, and it was like a work study gig. So they're studying to pursue their dream job, but because they're studying, they get to work in that field also.
- [30:12]
Lyle
Cool, man. Well, I'm super. Yeah, I know. I remember. I really liked our conversation. We talked a lot about just, like, ADHD crap.
- [30:18]
Caller Cat
Yes, exactly.
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Lyle
Yeah. I'm so happy to hear you asked.
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Caller Cat
Me, like, go ahead. He was like, so when are you gonna call Lyle back? And I was like, oh, I mean, I guess I should, like, make some progress in my life and, like, talk to my mom and, like, do kind of the stuff that you and I had talked about. And it's just. I don't know. I saw the notification that you're going live, and I was like, damn, not Perfect. I was like, I'll call three times. And then on the third time, you picked up.
- [30:42]
Lyle
No, that's. I'm happy to hear that you were. I love. I love when, like, this podcast is like a. I love the. It's like a what? It could have, like, a domino effect, you know, I mean, I remember in the early days when I was, like, a little bit more Twitch and Discord focused, you know, there were people talked about, like, meeting each other in the Twitch chat or in the Discord or, you know, I know that back when we had the Caveman on and he got a lot of, you know, people hitting him up and it was, you know, it's quite. I love. I love shit like that. Like, when people connect with each other, you know, based off of, like, finding each other on the show. It's cool. It's. It's like, I love that this shit, you know, extends beyond me.
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Caller Cat
And I love that you are not just, like, willing, but eager to use your platform in that way. Because I know, like, I know for me, the difference it's made in my life, like, it literally, I'm like, full on my client load. Like, I. I did it. I made the business happen. Because not like to attribute all of it, but like, a big part of it was just getting the name out there from showing up on your episode.
- [31:47]
Lyle
Fuck, yeah. That's awesome. That's great. Well, shit, Cat. Well, let me see here, Let me see here. Is there any other, like, kind of updates that you want to. You want to give us?
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Caller Cat
Oh, my gosh. What's new in my life? Let's see.
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Caller Sapphire / Caller Fran
I don't know. I think.
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Caller Cat
Honestly, I think that's like, as much as I wanted to tell you, it's just. Hey, it worked.
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Caller Sapphire / Caller Fran
We did the thing. Thanks.
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Caller Cat
Thanks for collaborating, making it happen any.
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Lyle
Well, okay, this will be my last question then, I guess. Is there any other stickers down the line that we should know about or any new sticker designs that you could audibly describe to us?
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Caller Sapphire / Caller Fran
You know what?
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Caller Cat
There aren't. And I'm really glad you asked because that's like the self promo that would be my ask is send me your sticker design. I know that I want to draw the demon tiger from K Pop Demon Hunters. I don't know if you've seen it, but I'm obsessed.
- [32:51]
Lyle
Of course it comes up on my. On my Netflix. Like, it's the first thing that comes up on my Netflix.
- [33:00]
Caller Cat
So you haven't watched it yet?
- [33:01]
Lyle
No, I haven't watched it yet, but it just like it throws itself at me. It really wants me to get into it.
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Caller Cat
Well, here's the thing. And I'm gonna give you a glowing recommendation of K Pop Demon Hunters. And I know the hesitation of I'm not gonna watch that because it's a kid's movie, it's a musical, it's animated. You're like, netflix is really pushing this down my throat. I want to ignore it. Here's the thing. And you can't because remember back in the day when Pixar was making all these awesome fucking films and we would like watch like robots fall in love and save the earth?
- [33:37]
Lyle
And you're telling me that. You're telling me that this thing that I saw on my Netflix that I honestly brushed off as a joke, K Pop Demon Hunter is too on the nose. It's like two.
- [33:51]
Caller Cat
Yep.
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Lyle
It's too culturally just on the nose of a thing. I'm like, I, I'm. I. You know, I know. And then I. And you're telling me it's Pixar level quality.
- [34:03]
Caller Cat
I am telling you is like the rebirth of the original Pixar, like life and breath of animation films. But it's from Sony, who produced the Mitchells and the machines and Spider Verse and.
- [34:22]
Lyle
Okay, I like. Oh, okay, all right. So it's of that caliber of thing. I didn't like the Mitchells in the machines, but I like the spider verse.
- [34:29]
Caller Cat
Exactly.
- [34:30]
Lyle
I like the way. Yeah, I like, I like. I like that style. Okay, I'm gonna be super honest with you.
- [34:37]
Caller Cat
On the nose, it's so annoying. It's so, like, culturally. Yeah, I get it. And I was like, it's. I had the same thought and then I just sucked it up and watched it because I got a glowing recommendation from somebody I trust and they are indeed correct. And you just go into it knowing, okay, it's so on the nose. It's going to be fun. It's fun. That's it.
- [34:56]
Lyle
Okay, I'll think. I'll. I'll think about it and probably not do it, but. But even if I won't, somebody listening to this might give it a shot. And that's. And that's worth something.
- [35:08]
Caller Cat
I watched. So I watched K Pop Demon Hunters with my mom and my stepdad last night as our emotional support movie because my nice. A friend of mine had recomm that like she had gone and seen some family and they watched it and I was like, oh, that's perfect. It's nice neutral ground. It's just media. It's good So I watched it with them and then like remembered all over again why I love it so much and watched like two hours on YouTube afterwards to fall asleep of other people talking about K Pop Demon Hunters.
- [35:38]
Lyle
That's the only reason to finish any movie or TV show is so that you can be spoiler spoiler free and go on YouTube and watch other people talk about it.
- [35:47]
Caller Cat
Exactly.
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Lyle
Kat, is there anything else you want to say to the people at the computer before we go?
- [35:53]
Caller Cat
Hang in there everybody.
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Caller Sapphire / Caller Fran
When you set goals and you work toward them, you get there.
- [35:58]
Caller Cat
I promise.
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Lyle
Thanks for calling, Kat.
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Caller Sapphire / Caller Fran
Thanks, Lyle.
- [36:05]
Lyle
That was a nice return call. Yeah, I forget what the name of that episode that we did was, but I do remember her. And again, very cool that I love. I love seeing lines intersect because of this show. You know, the things that you know are beyond me. I think it's cool.
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- [39:06]
Caller Richard / Caller William
Hey, Lyle.
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Lyle
What's up, man? What's your name?
- [39:10]
Caller Richard / Caller William
My name's Richard.
- [39:12]
Lyle
Richard. That's my. Yeah, that's my father's name.
- [39:17]
Caller Richard / Caller William
Oh, it's a fake name. It's a pretty good fake name now.
- [39:19]
Lyle
Oh, okay. Well, you know what? That's also a fake name for my father. I'm not. I'm being serious. That actually is not my father's name.
- [39:27]
Caller Richard / Caller William
Very good.
- [39:27]
Lyle
So it's my fake name for my father and your fake name for yourself.
- [39:32]
Caller Richard / Caller William
Well, Richard, I'll be honest. I was gonna make a joke. I was gonna be like, hey, my name's Richard, but you can call me Dick.
- [39:38]
Lyle
That's not a joke. That's just a statement. That's just an accurate thing.
- [39:42]
Caller Richard / Caller William
Yeah, but the Dick part was supposed to be the joke. I'm sorry.
- [39:45]
Lyle
You don't have a thing to be sorry about, Richard. What's up, man? What do you want to talk about today?
- [39:50]
Caller Richard / Caller William
Hey, I have a very interesting story happened to me about a month ago. I tried Kratom and I took Kratom for about two weeks. Have you ever heard of Kratom?
- [40:00]
Lyle
Yeah, Kratom is like, Kratom's very new. They sell it in. Well, there's Kratom and Kava bars, and I've been to those and I've tried it. I've never, like, bought it at a gas station, but I've tried it at one of the bars and I gotta be honest, I don't get it.
- [40:17]
Caller Richard / Caller William
Well, I'll be honest with you. There's nothing to get. It's a complete waste of time. It's complete ripoff. But it did send me to the hospital for three days.
- [40:25]
Lyle
Oh, okay. Well, then. Then it's definitely something.
- [40:32]
Caller Richard / Caller William
You would think, but it's really 0 out of 10. Would not recommend the experience to anyone else.
- [40:38]
Lyle
What happened? Did you have a heart attack?
- [40:40]
Caller Cat
No.
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Caller Richard / Caller William
So basically I started taking Kratom and took it within the regulated dose, or at least what the package said. And after a while, apparently this caused liver toxicity. And the liver toxicity turned me yellow, made me, you know, vomit immensely. And eventually I was in so much pain, I went to the hospital with the legitimate belief I was going to die.
- [41:09]
Lyle
Oh, man.
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Caller Richard / Caller William
Yeah, it was. It was pretty. Pretty gnarly. I do not recommend Kratom to anyone else.
- [41:18]
Lyle
What were you thinking about when you thought you were going to die?
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Caller Richard / Caller William
So that's actually really interesting. I realized, and I'll be honest, I'm actually in my late 30s and, you know, married. I have a kid on the way. And that's what I was thinking about primarily. But quite frankly, I was thinking about how much time I wasted and how much regret I had up until this point. And it really gave me kind of a new lease on life once I got out of the hospital that I no longer want to live with any further regrets or anything like that. So maybe some good did come out of this.
- [41:55]
Lyle
Wow, you had like a. You had like an lsd. Psychedelic realization, but on Kratom?
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Caller Richard / Caller William
Well, yes, yes. While my liver tried to kill itself, what did you.
- [42:11]
Lyle
Okay, so when you thought you were gonna die and you were thinking about your regrets, what do you regret?
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Caller Richard / Caller William
You know, just all the opportunities that I never took advantage of because I was too afraid to, you know, just what. What you and people call in all the time about just going up to people and saying hi, introducing yourself, really putting yourself out there. Because, you know, I was such. I was so afraid of rejection for so long, I realized there was a lot of missed opportunities, missed experiences, and a lot of stuff I'm probably going to continue to regret because I obviously can't fix the past.
- [42:50]
Lyle
Okay, well, hold on. Let's. Well, let's get into a few things. You also mentioned wasted time, right? What did you waste time doing?
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Caller Richard / Caller William
Pretty much nothing. Whether it was, you know, just getting intoxicated on alcohol or, you know, alone playing video games in my room till, like 2 in the morning. Just a lot of time I felt like it could have been better spent either bettering myself, whether it's, you know, physical exercise, doing something a little more productive, reading books, meeting people, talking to people, all that type of stuff.
- [43:28]
Lyle
Okay, and then what are these opportunities that you. Because here you. You're saying. How old are you? 38.
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Caller Richard / Caller William
38.
- [43:37]
Lyle
And you're saying that you're going to continue to regret these things. What is it that you're continuing to regret moving forward or that you see yourself continuing to regret?
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Caller Richard / Caller William
Well, you know, not introducing myself to certain people or taking advantage of certain opportunities. I don't want to, like, be too specific, but, you know, it's very. It's the classic, you know, hey, should I go up to that girl and talk to her? No way. She might say no. And her friends.
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Lyle
Buddy. Richard, Richard, Richard. You have a wife and a kid. What are you talking about?
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Caller Richard / Caller William
Oh, no, I'm very happy to where I am. But I realized at that time, you know, when I was making those decisions, I was regretting not making those choices to put myself out there.
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Caller Cat
Okay, but.
- [44:24]
Lyle
So here's what. I'm sorry to keep interrupting you, but when you say you like. So. Okay, so I assume, because here's the thing, romantically, I mean, you seem like you're happily married and you have a wife, so romantically, everything worked out. You happy with your wife?
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Caller Richard / Caller William
Absolutely.
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Lyle
Okay, wonderful. You didn't even hesitate. That you're. So. There's no regrets there. And then. So what are you regretful of?
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Caller Richard / Caller William
Just not putting myself out there because of fear of rejection.
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Lyle
Okay, what do you want? What would you. You're not dead. You're not dead. There we go. You're not dead.
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Caller Richard / Caller William
No.
- [45:01]
Lyle
Almost died. You almost died. In a pretty hilarious way.
- [45:05]
Caller Richard / Caller William
Yes. Which, you know, good.
- [45:07]
Lyle
And now you're not dead. And so you want to live life differently. What do you want to do differently?
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Caller Richard / Caller William
You know, I want to. And it's a little. I don't want to say too late to do this, but I do want to put myself out there. I do want to, you know, perhaps talk to people, get involved, do stuff. Not just, you know, go home. Nine to five job, go home, wait until you go to bed, wake up, do it all over again. Hey, the weekend comes, we're just basically wasting time waiting for Monday to come. I want to get up, you know, I want to exercise. I'm going to start to exercise once I'm 100%. I want to read more. So I really want to take life more by the horns, you know?
- [45:50]
Lyle
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't. I. I guess I'm A little bothered by the fact that you're saying that you're going to continue. Like, why are you holding on to this regret?
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Caller Richard / Caller William
It's, you know, it's, it's all, it's fear of missing out, basically, you know, all the stuff that could have happened, which I understand. I'm very happy with my current life.
- [46:12]
Lyle
Yeah.
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Caller Richard / Caller William
It's just, you know, perhaps it's one of those instances where you, you, you're not satisfied kind of what you have and, and you want what you could have had, but I don't know. I'm very satisfied with what I had, but there's still going to be that, that regret.
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Lyle
Sure. But I don't know, man. You seem like you have a nice life, right? You got a nice, you have a wife you're really happy with. You have a kid I'm sure you're really happy with. And so, I mean, you want, like, I guess it sounds like you want, like, you know, friends and community and experiences and to do weird, cool, interesting things. And I, I, I don't see any reason why you can't do those things as long as you're not, you know, letting your child starve or whatever. What's. So what, where do you, what do you live?
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Caller Richard / Caller William
I live in a rural part of America.
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Lyle
Okay. That's a little bit tougher.
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Caller Richard / Caller William
It's a little bit tougher. But, you know, that's one of the things you, that would prevent me from going to do something. It's, oh, you know, that's an hour and a half drive from here now. You know, kind of after getting out of the hospital and, you know, I thinking I was going to die for two days, I, that's not that big of a deal. An hour and a half drive to go to an event to meet bunch of, like, that's the type of stuff I'm talking about where I'm much more open to that stuff now.
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Lyle
Good. Cool. I like that. I don't. But I, I just, I'm, I guess in talking to you, the, the thing about, like I'm going to continue to regret the past, I think, is, I mean, I'm, I'm, I was about to say I'm being an armchair therapist, but I, I guess that's the whole thing of the thing. It's like, I mean, it's, why would you do that? It's like a, it doesn't serve you in any way, shape or form to hold that because you could convert it. Right? Because I, and I went on this rant recently and I've been thinking about this in my own life with these things, and I constantly check myself. I'm like, do I have any regrets? And the. I was. Nobody does any. Nobody does everything 100% correct. I went on this fucking rant on the show already, but I'll do it again. Like the, the nobody does any. Nobody lives life 100% correctly. And everything is just error correction and just fucking up. You're in correcting. And so, you know, like, to sit and carry any amount of like, ah, shucks, it could have been different is. Is not a. It's not a good mindset. Right. Instead, it's like, okay, well, I made those decisions that I didn't. You know, I made them with the body and the mind that I had at the time I made them. But look, I, you know, I have a fucking wife and a kid and I have a job and I have a house and I have energy and I'm. I'm 38 and I am. I'm, you know, relatively young. I'm not 74. I'm not going to. I'm not going to die. Let's see what I can do in the future. You know, I think just to hold on to regrets of the past is a really unhelpful thing to do. Unless if it's. I mean, it's already served you in the way that it should, which is directing your future. And it seems like it's already done that.
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Caller Richard / Caller William
Yeah, I like what you're saying about error correction because that's honestly what life is about. You're never. I mean, you only get one shot at it, so you're never going to do it perfectly. So it's all about kind of. Yeah, I guess. And I'm really trying to deal with the concept of letting go of that, you know, fear of missing out, regret, kind of whatever you want to call, just doesn't go away. It's kind of easier said than done. It's just like, this isn't serving me. I'm gonna get rid of it.
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Lyle
Totally. You're. And by the way, you're 100% right. It's absolutely easier said than done. I have hundreds of thousands of. I have so many thoughts and behaviors and emotions constantly, every day that do not serve me in any way, shape or form that I know don't serve me in any way, shape or form that correct is easier said than done. But you know what? But I just don't. Just don't let it get in the way of you doing the shit you want to do, you know?
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Caller Richard / Caller William
Oh, absolutely.
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Lyle
I mean, it'll be a little trickier when you have. I mean, has your. As your. Is your. You have a pregnant wife, right?
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Caller Richard / Caller William
Yes.
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Lyle
Is she. Is she like, hey, what the fuck? What are you doing driving an hour and a half to go to this chess game or.
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Caller Richard / Caller William
No, no, I'm. You know, I'm. She saw kind of my transformation over the past few months after this incident happened. No, she's. She's happy that I'm being a lot more active. I'm not just sitting on the couch, kind of waiting for the weekend to be over so I can do my 9 to 5 crap again.
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Lyle
That's a nice lady. That's great.
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Caller Richard / Caller William
Yeah.
- [51:24]
Lyle
Well, I'm glad that you have a new lease on life. I mean, it sounds like. It sounds like. Sounds like. You have a perfect testimonial. This is the best testimonial I've ever heard for Kratom.
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Caller Richard / Caller William
Yes. I'll tell you this. Never listen to a product that's, you know, being sold to you by a podcast named Cometown.
- [51:44]
Lyle
You heard about. Come. You heard about Kratom from Cometown?
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Caller Richard / Caller William
Yeah, they. They advertise it.
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Lyle
That's really funny. Yeah. I don't know. Well, I don't know. It's funny. Look at, like. I mean, I don't know. Look at the Cometown guys. They're all around your age, and they're all fucking still doing things.
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Caller Richard / Caller William
There's no way they're doing Kratom as well.
- [52:09]
Lyle
No, they're probably not doing Kratom. What's your name again, man?
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Caller Richard / Caller William
Richard.
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Lyle
Richard. Richard. Is there anything else you want to say to the people at the computer before we go or. I don't know if. I don't know if. If you feel like there's anything else you want to say about any of this stuff, I'm happy to keep talking about it, but if not, you know, no worries.
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Caller Richard / Caller William
Oh, no, I just wanted to share my testimonial, Kratom and basically tell everyone, look, be kind to one another. We only got one chance at this, so let's at least not be dicks to each other.
- [52:39]
Lyle
Thank you, Richard. I'll see you around the universe.
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Caller Richard / Caller William
You have a great day, sir.
- [52:48]
Lyle
Well, I think about regret a fair amount. I don't. I don't have. I don't really have any regret. I. Well, I have a few regrets, but I don't let them destroy me. I mainly. I mainly regret any time that I was a dick or that I was. Most of my regrets are about very, like, emotionally charged things. Because anytime I was a dick, there was some, like, emotional quotient to it. I think that's always true. I don't think anyone in their. I don't think anyone's ever a dick in their right mind. You know, you have, like, the higher versions of yourself when you're, you know, like, when you're like, like. Like there's a lot of versions of me. There's me when I'm dressed in fully. I'm fully clothed and I'm like, at a place and I'm on my laptop. That's a very different guy than, you know, me naked in my room, you know, jerking off at 4am Those are different guys, I think. I don't know. Anytime. That's just one example. Or, you know, me when I'm pissed off, that's a different guy. Or me when I'm annoyed or I have low energy, that's a different guy. But when I'm at the. At the. Because I. I'm not like, you know, thinking about your regrets in life is something you do when you're at the higher version of yourself. You're not gonna. You're not like, you know, jerking off or, like, annoyed at someone screaming at you on the subway or whatever and being like, what regrets do I have in my life? You're just emotionally existing, and so this, you know, there's a constant fight between you. You as you emotionally exist, and you as you logically exist, and me as I logically exist. I think I'm. Yeah, that's what I regret. As many times I was a dick. I was worried too much.
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Caller Sapphire / Caller Fran
Hello?
- [55:02]
Lyle
Hey, what's up?
- [55:04]
Caller Sapphire / Caller Fran
That's insane. Hi. I love your podcast all the time when I'm at work, dude.
- [55:09]
Lyle
Hell yeah. What's your name?
- [55:11]
Caller Sapphire / Caller Fran
My name's Fran.
- [55:12]
Lyle
Fran. Okay, I'm going to actually remember your name this time, Fran.
- [55:19]
Caller Sapphire / Caller Fran
It's okay if you don't. I wanted to call you and talk about my job because I love my job so much.
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Lyle
Sure. Wait, have we ever. We've never spoken before, right?
- [55:29]
Caller Sapphire / Caller Fran
Never. No.
- [55:29]
Lyle
Okay. Rock and roll. Hit me. What's. What's. What's your job?
- [55:33]
Caller Sapphire / Caller Fran
So I work at a farm. It's a goat farm. And they do baby goat rentals. Is super fun. And they go to fairs and you can do baby goat snuggling.
- [55:47]
Lyle
You can rent a baby goat?
- [55:50]
Caller Sapphire / Caller Fran
Yes. You can rent a goat for like a night or two. It's really fun.
- [55:59]
Lyle
How much does it cost to rent a goat?
- [56:02]
Caller Sapphire / Caller Fran
It depends on how Many goats you're getting? I think one is like $60, and it depends on how long you're having them.
- [56:10]
Lyle
How much does it cost to rent a goat for one night?
- [56:15]
Caller Sapphire / Caller Fran
For one night? I'm not entirely sure. I kind of. I don't really do the rental part of it. I take care of the farm animals.
- [56:28]
Lyle
Where in the country is this farm located? Not like the exact, but like, you know, general region.
- [56:32]
Caller Sapphire / Caller Fran
I can tell you the exact because the farm I work on actually has a YouTube channel and everything.
- [56:38]
Lyle
Oh, okay.
- [56:40]
Caller Sapphire / Caller Fran
So I work on a farm called Steinmetz Family Farm, and it's in Temple, Pennsylvania.
- [56:46]
Lyle
Okay. And now do you do. Do you vet the people who rent these? You could, like, if. So if I have $60, I can take a goat and bring it home with no questions asked. There's. That's all I need. There's. Is there any. Is there a vetting process of any kind of.
- [57:05]
Caller Sapphire / Caller Fran
So obviously, like, the goats have all their shots before they. They get with you. And then my boss will take a picture of your ID and just make sure, like, you know your license plate and make sure, like, you're a safe person.
- [57:21]
Lyle
Can I ask you something? It's just. It's in my mind and it's my fault that it's in my mind, but I gotta ask you this question.
- [57:27]
Caller Sapphire / Caller Fran
Of course.
- [57:28]
Lyle
You think people are fucking these goats?
- [57:31]
Caller Sapphire / Caller Fran
What? No. Absolutely not.
- [57:37]
Lyle
You don't think there's been a single little freaky guy in like, you know, rural Pennsylvania who's like, I have $60 and I'm alone and I. And he try. Wants to fuck a goat? You don't think that's ever happened?
- [57:52]
Caller Sapphire / Caller Fran
No. No. People who rent from us, usually our moms or family, older people. I don't. I don't think that's ever happened.
- [58:05]
Lyle
Okay. Someone else in the Twitch. I don't usually read the Twitch chat, but somebody else in the Twitch chat said I had the exact same thought and now I feel a little less crazy. You've never had like a. You've never had like a. Like a ghoulie looking older gentleman come up and you've never had that?
- [58:23]
Caller Sapphire / Caller Fran
No, but my boss has had people come to the farm and try to buy the goats to eat.
- [58:29]
Lyle
Okay.
- [58:30]
Caller Sapphire / Caller Fran
Yeah, yeah, yeah. My. My boss would never let that happen, though.
- [58:35]
Lyle
Isn't it funny that that's. Is it funny that that's like. That's theoretically worse for the goat? I guess. I don't know.
- [58:46]
Caller Sapphire / Caller Fran
I wouldn't know either. I've actually. That thought has never Crossed my mind there was.
- [58:54]
Lyle
Well, you're. You're a good. You're a good person. That the thought has never crossed your mind. You're a good you. Your brain stays within normal human being limits. I appreciate that about you.
- [59:10]
Caller Sapphire / Caller Fran
I love. I love animals so much. They're my heart and soul.
- [59:18]
Lyle
So what, do people just, like, rent the goats and what do they do with them? They just, like, take them home for a second.
- [59:27]
Caller Sapphire / Caller Fran
Yeah, some people take them home for parties, like birthday parties. Some people just have them for, you know, kids birthdays. Like when the kid is having a birthday and she wants a specific goat, because we go to fairs and we do goat snuggling there. So people will pick a favorite goat, and then for their birthday, they might come to rent that specific goat. So.
- [59:54]
Lyle
And how long have you been working with these goats?
- [59:58]
Caller Sapphire / Caller Fran
I want to say this is my third month.
- [60:01]
Lyle
Oh, so you're very new to the. Very new to the goat industry. This. The goat industry seems like something that. There's a lot of lifers in it.
- [60:11]
Caller Sapphire / Caller Fran
It's. It's hard work. A lot of lifting, a lot of just moving a lot of poop.
- [60:23]
Lyle
And. And how. How old are you, Fran?
- [60:27]
Caller Sapphire / Caller Fran
I'm 18.
- [60:28]
Lyle
Oh, shit. Okay. You just got into. Are. Is this, like your. Your thing? Like, are you. Are you going to go to college or are you going to go into goats?
- [60:42]
Caller Sapphire / Caller Fran
So actually, I'm going to beauty school then, but I'm going to be with the farm for a while. I love my job so much. I really do.
- [60:53]
Lyle
That's very nice. That's very nice. What do you see yourself doing for the future?
- [61:01]
Caller Sapphire / Caller Fran
I want to become an esthetician. So that's like skin care, makeup, stuff like that. I'd love to pursue that and still volunteer on the farm that I work at.
- [61:13]
Lyle
Mm. How did you get involved with this farm? Did you mention that already?
- [61:20]
Caller Sapphire / Caller Fran
No, I did not. But it's actually. It's quite a story. So my family had chickens at our house, and we had six chickens, and one of them got attacked by a hawk. Now I still live with my parents, so my family didn't really want to take the chicken to the vet because it's a chicken and that's a lot of money. So I called the first. The first. Sorry. I called the first petting zoo, basically, that was near me, and I said, can you help me? My chicken is hurt. And that's how I met them.
- [62:04]
Lyle
And. Oh, shit. Was I gonna say, do you ever have. Do you ever have any, like, Farm Rascals? Does Anyone ever, like, cause trouble on the farm?
- [62:20]
Caller Sapphire / Caller Fran
Yes, yes. If you're talking goat wise, yes.
- [62:23]
Lyle
Yeah. Like any, like, foxes or like, tricksters, tricky critters?
- [62:29]
Caller Sapphire / Caller Fran
No, no, no. But the goats can have quite big personalities. There's this goat, Tenley. Tenley is such a pain in the butt. She. She basically jumped on my back and then jumped off my back to get into this stall that we have for grains to eat.
- [62:51]
Lyle
You know, you really, you. It's like you live in a children's book. It's very nice.
- [62:55]
Caller Sapphire / Caller Fran
I love it. I do. I don't have to deal with people always saying things and, like, getting all mad. Old people especially.
- [63:02]
Caller Richard / Caller William
I just.
- [63:06]
Lyle
Well, Fran, let me ask you this. I guess. Is there anything else that you want to talk about or say before we go?
- [63:17]
Caller Sapphire / Caller Fran
Just. It's a pleasure to be on here. I've been wanting to call you since I was 16, so it's amazing.
- [63:25]
Lyle
Well, I'm glad you found a thing that you like doing, and I hope that the goats remain kind to you.
- [63:35]
Caller Sapphire / Caller Fran
Yeah, check out the YouTube channel. It's.
- [63:38]
Lyle
Oh, yeah. What is it? Well, I'm gonna look at it right now. What is it?
- [63:43]
Caller Sapphire / Caller Fran
Steinmet Family Farm.
- [63:46]
Lyle
Steinmet family. Oh, there it is. Sim. Oh, it comes up immediately. Oh, okay. There we go. Hey there. I'm the goat father. Oh, this guy's a real. This guy's a real goat tuber. What's his most popular video?
- [64:01]
Caller Sapphire / Caller Fran
It's the one about hope.
- [64:04]
Lyle
Yes, it's a big fucking bull. Wait, no, that's. Is that a bull? Is that a goat or a bull?
- [64:10]
Caller Sapphire / Caller Fran
It might be the one where he got stabbed in the leg by a bull. My boss is. My boss is quite a personality. His name's Justin. He's. He's great.
- [64:25]
Lyle
My garage is overrun by giant rats. Parentheses, not clickbait. Yeah, I endorse this. I endorse the Steinmetz Family Farms YouTube channel. Fran, is there anything else you want to say to the people at the computer before we go?
- [64:41]
Caller Sapphire / Caller Fran
Rent goats?
- [64:43]
Lyle
Thank you, friend. Have a good rest of your night.
- [64:45]
Caller Sapphire / Caller Fran
You too. Bye. Bye.
- [64:48]
Lyle
Bye, friend. You know, I feel I. Well, okay, here's the thing. I feel a little bad asking if people fucking the goats, but here's the thing is I can't. I really can't not be myself. And it is of. It is of myself to be like, are people fucking the goats? So, yeah, that just happened. That's what I thought when I. That's what occurred in my head when I imagined that, you know, in rural Pennsylvania. Not. There's anything wrong with rural Pennsylvania. But I'm like, you know, it's what is Murphy's Law? What's the thing? Anything that can happen, that's my fault. But she was a nice, sweet, she seemed like a very wholesome person and that's really, that's good. And goats are nice. And I do think you should check out the Steinmetz family farm. They have, they have cool videos.
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Caller Sapphire / Caller Fran
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- [68:28]
Caller Richard / Caller William
Hello.
- [68:28]
Lyle
What's up, man?
- [68:29]
Caller Richard / Caller William
Oh, did I make it through? What's going on, man? How are you?
- [68:33]
Lyle
I'm doing okay, brother. What's, what's your name?
- [68:37]
Caller Richard / Caller William
My name is William.
- [68:39]
Lyle
William?
- [68:40]
Caller Richard / Caller William
Yes, sir.
- [68:41]
Lyle
What's going on, William? How you doing, buddy?
- [68:43]
Caller Richard / Caller William
I'm doing good, man. I'm doing good. I just wanted to talk about a little, little phenomenon that's been pretty relevant to my own life recently.
- [68:54]
Lyle
Oh, phenom. Phenomous.
- [68:59]
Caller Richard / Caller William
Yes. I don't know if it's technically a phenomenon, but like, why not just call it that, you know?
- [69:06]
Lyle
I agree.
- [69:08]
Caller Richard / Caller William
So pretty much like having a hobby that turns into a job and then you kind of start to hate the hobby. Oh, you know, so that's kind of what I've been wrestling with a little bit.
- [69:23]
Lyle
What's your hobby that you turn into a job?
- [69:26]
Caller Richard / Caller William
So I'm a graphic designer. I went to school for it, did the whole, the whole thing. Now I do it as a 9 to 5 and I'm just like, definitely not as fun anymore.
- [69:38]
Lyle
Yeah.
- [69:39]
Caller Richard / Caller William
You know.
- [69:41]
Lyle
Yeah. I think there's a big. I think that separating what you do from money and what you do for your own personal sense of enjoyment can be good. I mean, even like, I mean, dude, even like, what's his, what's his name? I'm not, I'm not gonna talk about anyone specific because I don't know this, but like, even like famous filmmakers, right? Like they have their little, like, you know, weird little movies they want to make, but they don't make any money.
- [70:11]
Caller Richard / Caller William
Yeah.
- [70:11]
Lyle
But so then they go and they, they sign on to direct like a. Some Marvel movie or some. Right, right.
- [70:18]
Caller Richard / Caller William
And then that funds like their, their passion project for lack of a better.
- [70:22]
Lyle
Yeah, yeah. I mean, if the thing that you're really, really, really, really passionate about is the thing that also makes money, you're very lucky. But it's not always the case. Like even like, you know, cool. Even like if you're doing something cool, you know, even if you're doing like a fucking, like YouTube channel or you're making art or whatever, it's very rare that like the, the exact type of art you want to make, the exact version of the thing you want to do, is also the thing that makes money.
- [70:54]
Caller Richard / Caller William
Right. And then you tend to like, romanticize what it would be like. And then you get there and you're like, this is not. This is not what I pictured, you know, so I'm kind of, kind of in that space and I felt like you could relate to that because I'm sure this started as a hobby for you and now it's grown into something so much more, you know.
- [71:18]
Lyle
Yeah, I mean, I could, you know, I could talk about that, which is that. So, I mean, there's been a lot of as. There's a lot of aspects to what I do and some. Like, there's. There are. There's sort of three categories of the things that I've been doing as the Gecko over the years. Um, there's things that are, you know, purely lucrative. There's things that are. And there's things that are purely lucrative that I am not, like, you know, ecstatic about, I guess. But, you know, it's a good job to have.
- [71:56]
Caller Richard / Caller William
Yeah, totally.
- [71:56]
Lyle
There's things that are fun and lucrative, like, you know, things that make money and are also, you know, really fun and cool and interesting. And then there's things that I am, like, super interested in and love doing. And I'm like, this is the shit, but it does not make any money.
- [72:15]
Caller Richard / Caller William
Yeah.
- [72:15]
Lyle
And in fact, loses money.
- [72:18]
Caller Richard / Caller William
Totally.
- [72:19]
Lyle
So I, you know, I've been doing a lot of different things with the Gecko. Between like the podcasting and the touring and the making these little documentaries and they all fit into different categories. But in my mind, the way I have everything kind of set up is like, okay, I have certain things that are more lucrative that kind of fundamentally the things that I'm really excited about that maybe aren't as lucrative. I'd like to live in a world where the things I'm really, really stoked on are the things that are kind of a self sufficient thing. But I think having kind of what you do to make money and what you do to just be the thing that you like doing. I think it's almost kind of good to make those separate because then it's like, you know, when you. When everything is crumpled up into one ball, it's. It's. You don't really know where your kind of artistic desires begin and end and where the, you know, money stuff begins and ends.
- [73:20]
Caller Richard / Caller William
Right.
- [73:22]
Lyle
So I think if it's okay to have, like, okay, this is my graphic design job that I do. I'm good at this and I'm skilled at it. And so this is what I do to just make a living. And then it allows me to, you know, fund the. The, you know, the crazy furry hentai that I. That I really want to make. That's my.
- [73:46]
Caller Richard / Caller William
Yeah, no, exactly.
- [73:48]
Lyle
Thing. You know, whatever it is. But yeah, I think. I think that's a perfectly legitimate way to. And don't feel bad because there's a real inclination to beat yourself up about it. Is a real.
- [73:58]
Caller Richard / Caller William
That's the thing, too, dude. That it's like. It's like, I feel like I should be super stoked and like, yeah. High on life all the time because I was able to turn a hobby into a job. But it's like, at the end of the day, it's a job and that, like, when I was stoked on it, I was doing it for myself. Whereas now I feel like I'm in service to other people, which is awesome. Like, I'm glad that people find value in what I do, but at the same time, it's like, I don't really want to do this for you, you know?
- [74:29]
Lyle
Yes. And. And if I were you, and this is kind of what I do in a lot of the things in my life that are like, this is just. You can. You can. You can take it. And if. Because right now it kind of sounds like everything's jumbled up into one ball. Right. And it's okay if you take it. It's okay if you take it and you rip it, you in two pieces and you go like, okay, this is. This is my job. This is my work. This is what I do for money. I probably wouldn't do this if I wasn't making money doing it as is like 99.999% of all the jobs that people have across the world.
- [75:02]
Caller Richard / Caller William
Very true.
- [75:04]
Lyle
And then you have this other. And that's fine. That's totally. That's not only legitimate. It's how, again, 99.99999% of the planet operates. And also, you could still, by the way, feel that way, but have pride in what you do.
- [75:24]
Caller Richard / Caller William
Yeah.
- [75:26]
Lyle
And so that's another thing. And then on the other side is you have this little piece of it where it's like, I just want to make. I'm an artist. I am separating myself from this other part that's just making money because I'm trying to kind of preserve the thing that got me to want to do this in the first place. And I'd gladly do this if it didn't pay me money. I'd gladly do this forever just because it's in me and I like doing it. And you can have those two separate parts of your life. I think when you try to combine everything into one, you start entering a lot of, like, cognitive dissonance.
- [76:03]
Caller Richard / Caller William
Yeah, man, it gets blurry for sure. But I've picked up other hobbies and stuff now, too, that I can kind of get that creative. Like, I don't know, creative bubble, like, out there. Like, I've been making beats and stuff just on the side as, like, a passion project sort of a thing, you know, just to, like. Because now the graphic design thing doesn't really fill that void for me.
- [76:27]
Lyle
Right.
- [76:28]
Caller Richard / Caller William
So, like, just trying to pick up other things. Like, I've been skating since I was 10, and I'm 26 now, so, like, skateboarding a lot more, you know, trying to get back into, like, that sort of thing. Hang out with, like, my homies that I was tight with back when I was 15, skating around, you know, so doing stuff like that. But, yeah, man, I don't know. That was just something that's been. Been on my mind, and I felt like you could relate to that in a way, because you have been doing this for. For a while, you know?
- [77:00]
Lyle
Yeah. 100 and yeah, like I said, there's. Yeah, you do kind of. You kind of can beat yourself up a little bit about being like, why does this turn into a job? But everything. Everything becomes. Everything becomes a job, and everything becomes work. And I think you still be grateful, but it's like, for sure, it is what it is. You know, the way you feel is valid. Right.
- [77:26]
Caller Richard / Caller William
And I recognize that I'm, like, in the position I'm in. Like, I'm super blessed, you know, I did what I set out to do. It's just, like, maybe not exactly what I expected it to be, which, you know, that's kind of everything in life.
- [77:38]
Lyle
Here's why. Here's how. Here's the thing about not beating yourself up is, like, don't, like, you're not. Like, do this all from. I urge you to do this all from, like, a place of power. Meaning. Meaning, like, okay, you know what? Like, very logically, like, okay, you know what? I worked really hard to get to this point, and now I'm logically observing my emotions And I'm observing that I'm not actually really fulfilled by this. And so instead of responding to that information by feeling like a piece of shit or quitting or spiraling into, like, self whatever, the best move is to look at this emotion logically and go, okay, what's the solution to this? And the solution to this is, okay, let me build some new aspect of my life that does fulfill me creatively and look at this other aspect as just a job that makes money. And I'm happy that it makes money. And I'll let it make money until it doesn't make money. And then on the other side, I'm just gonna make sure, like, you'll feel better because you're like, okay, I took action on this feeling instead of just spiraling about it. And, yeah, the action will now you have, you know, you have your beats or you have your right fucking side deviantart account or whatever the fuck. That kind of fills you up. So that's. That's kind of how I would. I would think about it. And that's how, you know, that's kind of how I've tried to think about it in my own life.
- [79:20]
Caller Richard / Caller William
Yeah, I mean, that makes total sense. It's just, like, I feel like I got to shift that energy into whatever it is. The. The making beats thing has been a really good creative outlet for me, even though, like, I'm not doing anything with them. But, like, I think it's kind of. It's better that way to keep it kind of like the sacred thing that, like, I'm not necessarily trying to make it bigger, if that makes sense.
- [79:44]
Lyle
Yeah, totally. And also, by the way, the whole thing of, like. The whole thing of, like, trying to make it. You know, I'm wrestling with this a lot. I'm really thinking about this a lot because I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm kind of in this period where I'm like. I'm attempting to make this, like, career evolution diversion. That's not like. And I'm. And I'm starting from scratch a little bit. It almost feels. And I'm, like, reconciling with, like, you know, oh, if I try. If I get in. If I get too in my head about, like, making something a thing, then it just becomes another, like, stress point instead of, like, creation point. And so I, at least in my own kind of practice, I'm just like, okay, let me just do the work. Let me just, like, do the work and not worry that much about truly anything. Except, I mean, I'M I can't help it. I'm naturally like, oh, what if I marketed it like this or did this? And I'm gonna do that shit. But most above, above. Above any of that is just, like, doing the work that makes you. That you. Is doing work that you look back at and are happy with. I made that fucking Tijuana video.
- [81:04]
Caller Richard / Caller William
Yeah, that shit was dope. Yeah.
- [81:06]
Lyle
Okay, cool. I'm glad you liked it. And you know what? I'm also. I think it performed better than I gave it credit for, but it maybe didn't. Like, you know, do. I think I'm just. I'm just kind of being impatient. But I can look at that video and I. When I watch it, I'm like, I think this is really cool. And I made this the way I wanted to make it. And it's the exact. It's like the thing I'll look back at in my life and be like, I'm fucking stoked about this. And I just want to keep doing work where I'm like, okay, as long as I can look back on it, regardless of how many views it gets or if it ends up making money, as long as I can look back on it and be like, I'm happy with how this came out. This feels very me. And this feel, this is very, like, in alignment with myself. Then, you know, then, then. And I mean, that's the only thing. That's the only, I think, real way forward. Because if you get. If something go. If something becomes successful because you compromised it in some way, then you just back with a job again, so.
- [82:10]
Caller Richard / Caller William
Exactly, exactly. I think everything satisfied. Yeah, that's. That's all that really matters. Because also, like, you. If you do something and you're like, you know, compromising, you're going to look back at the thing, not the money, and be like, damn, I wish I did that differently, you know?
- [82:26]
Lyle
Totally, totally. And all this. It can only come. It can only. A lot of this also shit is, like, random and lucky because I see so many people. I mean, you know, I mean, you know, this. There's so many comedians, musicians, podcasters, YouTubers, TikTok, whatever. People who are truly, like, really talented. And for whatever reason, they just don't hit for whatever reason. And it's like, yeah, the sauce involved in, like, hitting or not hitting is very elusive. And so the truly the only thing to do, it's like. It's like the only thing to do or worry about is what's within your control, which is like the actual work itself that you're doing.
- [83:08]
Caller Richard / Caller William
And I try to take myself out of the actual thing and be like, okay, like, take the pressure off, because, like, the pressure, it just makes you, like. I don't know. I feel like no matter how much pressure or stress you put on yourself, everything's gonna, like, work out in a specific way, no matter what you do.
- [83:29]
Lyle
Yeah, you know, I totally. Oh, yeah, totally.
- [83:31]
Caller Richard / Caller William
That's kind of like the mindset that I try to put myself in. Like, it doesn't really matter. Like, don't stress about it, you know, Just get it done. Do the best that you can do at this moment.
- [83:41]
Lyle
Yeah.
- [83:42]
Caller Richard / Caller William
And then once it's out there, it's out there. You just let it happen.
- [83:45]
Lyle
That's what's so annoying about anxiety. That's what's so fucking annoying about anxiety is that it's like, truly, like, I was talking about regret and I regret times I was worried and it's like, that's the main reason I regret times I was worried, because it's like, wow, it didn't do. I mean, sometimes I think anxiety can, like, charge you into action, but a lot of times it also is just, like, doesn't do it.
- [84:14]
Caller Richard / Caller William
It also. It also takes you out of the moment, you know, because you're so worried about, like, how you are perceived or how, like, I don't know. For. In. In my case, like, what are they gonna think of this? Because I do a lot of freelance stuff on the side, like in the music industry, so I'll, like, send some out and be like, damn, they might not like this at all, and I might have made myself look really bad at what I do, but, you know, sometimes you just gotta, like, not care. I don't know.
- [84:47]
Lyle
I used to do the work and kind of try not to focus on anything else.
- [84:52]
Caller Richard / Caller William
Yeah. So.
- [84:56]
Lyle
What did you say? What did you say your name was again?
- [84:59]
Caller Richard / Caller William
William.
- [85:00]
Lyle
William. Yeah. It was nice talking to you about all this stuff, William. I do genuinely think about this shit a lot, so I'm glad that. I'm glad we could have this little call and I could kind of work out these thoughts and we can talk.
- [85:13]
Caller Richard / Caller William
Yeah, no, for sure. I'm glad I got through. I've been. I've been trying for so long, so I'm stoked.
- [85:20]
Lyle
Is there anything else you want to say to the people, the computer, before we go? You can plug yourself too, if you want.
- [85:26]
Caller Richard / Caller William
Could I? Okay, I'll. I'll plug my. My graphic design page on Instagram. It's just W, S D S, G N. It's Pretty much just like my first and last initial design, dsgn.
- [85:42]
Lyle
So I have a lot of DSGN means.
- [85:45]
Caller Richard / Caller William
I mean, in my head, I don't know if that's technically what it means. I just, like, I wanted something short, you know, so.
- [85:51]
Lyle
But, like, I'm sorry, can I point out something hilarious? And I'm. I'm not saying this to be a dick, but 100%, it's very funny to me that in the, like, the. Your Instagram bio is. I just be making something.
- [86:07]
Caller Sapphire / Caller Fran
Stuff.
- [86:09]
Caller Richard / Caller William
Yeah.
- [86:09]
Lyle
And yet. And yet the. The. The. The crux of our call is. Is attempt. Is. Is the both of us talking about attempting to actually embody what that bio is saying of. Just of I make and stuff. Like, I like. Like, we're both trying to, like, live that, but, you know, the anxiety prevents you from just be making stuff.
- [86:37]
Caller Richard / Caller William
It's more of, like, I see that, and I'm like, all right, just make stuff.
- [86:41]
Lyle
Yeah, don't worry about it. No, good. Good. No, it's a good. It's a good. It's a good bio.
- [86:46]
Caller Richard / Caller William
Thanks, man.
- [86:47]
Lyle
I'm gonna. I'm gonna try to live by that. I'm gonna try to live by that, too. I'm gonna. Let's both. Let's both just be making stuff.
- [86:54]
Caller Richard / Caller William
Let's both be making stuff. Hell, yeah.
- [86:57]
Lyle
Beautiful.
- [86:59]
Caller Richard / Caller William
Are you coming to Florida anytime soon on your. Do you have a tour coming up?
- [87:03]
Lyle
Oh, I don't know. I don't. I don't know when I'm gonna tour next. I'm like, I'm. I'm fired up about going to random weird places first. Yeah, I might talk if people want. If people still want to see me. I'll cook something up, but we'll see. We'll see what happens.
- [87:19]
Caller Richard / Caller William
I feel like people always want to see you, bro.
- [87:21]
Lyle
I don't. I don't. I don't know. I don't know, man. I don't know. I mean, we'll. Every. Every year, I'm like, I don't know if. I don't know if people still want to see me do this, but if they do, I'm down. I'll come.
- [87:33]
Caller Richard / Caller William
Hell, yeah.
- [87:35]
Lyle
Rock and roll. Take care, William. Good luck.
- [87:38]
Caller Richard / Caller William
Take care. Thank you so much.
- [87:40]
Lyle
Bye, sir. I liked William. He's a good guy. I do. I do empathize with him on a lot of those points. He's got to do stuff. Well, folks, that was it. That was the podcast. I hope you enjoyed it. I don't have anything else to say, but I think this was a good episode. I enjoyed recording it. Let me know in the comments if you liked it. Let me know in the comments if how you're do how you're doing if you want I read the Spotify comments. I shouldn't read the Spotify comments. I shouldn't read any comments, but I do. And I shouldn't tell people I read them because then they'll say things. They'll they'll be they'll say stuff in them. But I do. I read them anyway. Okay. Thank you for listening to the podcast. Geck. Bless. See you guys around the universe Every.
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