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Host
Hello?
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Autumn
Hi. Hey.
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Host
What's your name?
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Autumn
My name's Autumn.
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Host
Autumn. What's going on, Autumn?
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Autumn
Hi. Hi. So I was just calling because my husband watches you a lot, actually, and he's encouraged me to call you all a couple times just because my life is pretty crazy. His not so much. But when he hears mine, he's like, maybe other people should hear that.
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Host
Interesting. Interesting. Okay, before I actually I want to hear about why your life is crazy, but I. Before we do that, why is your husband's life not crazy? Like, can I. What's his deal?
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Autumn
He's actually, like, a really calm person. His family's really calm people, too. I mean, I'm sure they had trouble in the past and stuff, you know, like, not my business to the extent of, like, you know, what happened before me, but they're definitely not like my family, if I could emphasize that, like, my family. I'll get into it, but they're a lot toned down versus that. They're calm people. They believe in, like, loving their family, things like that. Like, everybody sticks together, us against the world. My family. Wolves.
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Host
Wolves.
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Autumn
If that makes sense. Yeah.
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Host
Yeah. Where. Where. Where do you two grow up? In different places.
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Autumn
We actually grew up down the road from each other, but we didn't know it.
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Host
Oh, really? When did you. And when did you. When did you guys get together?
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Autumn
Probably when I was, like, 23. So I had a. A little bit of a. A world of difference because he went to college, things like that, and his family gave him that room. But my family had me out at 16 because they thought I was old enough to take care of myself.
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Host
And how. How did that work out for you when. When you were 16?
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Autumn
Rough. I. When I was 16, I was married into a family that.
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Host
Whoa.
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Autumn
Really? Into church? Yes. We live in the Appalachian region, and. Oh, yeah, church is a big thing, so they. They married me off because they thought that was what was best for me, and it didn't work out because he was a grown man and I was a child.
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Host
Whoa. So your family married you off when you were like. They weren't like. Like, did they kind of like arranged marriage you.
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Autumn
Legally? You could say no, just because they kind of went across the map of what is in the legalities for our state. But essentially, yes, we had a family down the road. There was a guy probably about 7 years older than me, and they married me off to him. And the court allows it as long as you're 16. And they married me off to him because they thought that he would take care of me, and he was in church, and I had to follow by his rules. So, yeah, I guess. I guess in a sense, yes, you could say it. It is legal, but in another sense, you could say that it shouldn't be.
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Host
And how long were you in. In that for?
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Autumn
TILL I was 18. I was 18. And he knew that. He was a really nice man, and he knew that I didn't want that and he let me go. He was like, I don't think you really wanted to be a part of this. He got me a car, and he gave me some money and was like, here. I knew this wasn't what you wanted in life. And he let me go.
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Host
And where'd you go?
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Autumn
Well, at first, I went back to my family's house, and that was hard. That was definitely hard because my mom didn't take it well, and she was not really religious or anything. I guess more so just wanted us out of her house because she. She really believed that it was my job to take care of everything, and I always had to be the adult. And I didn't care to take on that responsibility until, I guess, until I was old enough to realize that I had other options. And that's when the defiance began. I'd got a full scholarship and stuff, and that was. That was really hard. And she didn't want me to take it. Kind of forced me in that situation. But I came back home. She had got on drugs really bad. And the next thing I knew, probably after about two or three months, the police were beating down her door. And I was still taking care of my siblings at the time, and I'd done that the whole time that I was married off. So the police came at our door, busted it down, and we all had to go outside. And I never experienced anything like that because I was kind of bounced around a lot as a kid until my grandparents died. And then when I moved back home with my mom, you know, it kind of evened out. So I didn't really expect it. She. She, I guess, had a wild spin. So we all had to get escorted outside of the house by the police. And I didn't know what was going on. I was only 18 at the time. My husband, he thought that I could handle what life said to give me, and he knew that I didn't want to be in that situation. I didn't know I was walking back into a situation way worse. But I remember police holding guns and stuff, and I didn't know what was going on. After the whole event, they told us that my mom had called and said nine people were holding her hostage with guns or something like that. It's kind of traumatic. I'm sorry. I get a little trembling talking about it, but there's a reason my husband thought that it would be cool for me to call, so I don't usually talk about this with other people. I promise that, like, I'll get through the story. It just. It might take Me a second.
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Host
Your. Your life is. Sir, you certainly delivered upon the premise that your life is crazy. Absolutely.
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Autumn
Yeah.
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Host
Well, before we go, let me ask you this because you said your husband wanted you to call in. How do you feel telling this story?
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Autumn
Brave.
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Host
Is it a positive? Go ahead.
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Autumn
Oh, I'm so sorry. I never realized that it was a brave story, if that makes sense. Like, I grew up and I, I wanted to be a cop, so I went into that field. I just didn't want kids to experience what I experienced growing up. And there's a lot of backstory, of course, but like, I, I just always wanted to be brave for everybody else and I knew that I was that for my siblings and stuff. I didn't know that I could, I could have that vulnerability, if that makes sense. Like, so when me and my husband talked about it and stuff, he listens to you all, all the time. I, I just didn't know that there'd be people that would listen to it, if that makes sense. Like, you know, you, you tell a crazy story. People don't, people don't always register it. Like, if you tell a story to your friends that know your life, they're like, oh, yeah, I could see that. I, I never realized that there was an outside viewer that, that would hear that and be like, oh my gosh, wow. Like, or that's. That's crazy. Like, that that didn't happen, you know. And so I was always hesitant to always tell my story. But I grew up wanting to be a cop, so that's the field I pursued and was thinking, I can make a change. But life happens and sometimes things happen to you, especially in the area we. That you don't realize, I guess, how your story might be minuscule in comparison and so sharing it don't feel like it's worth it, if that makes sense. But my husband, he'll hear me talk sometimes, especially if you have a few margaritas or anything like that. And he was like, you need to, you need to tell people this. Like, you really, really do. Like, so I guess that encouraged me a lot. Just hearing him talk to me about it and tell me like, hey, you need to maybe open up.
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Host
So, so listen, I mean, if, if you wanna, if you. Do you want to continue, do you want to keep talking about it?
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Autumn
Yeah, sure. Like, I've been keeping up with you for a minute.
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Host
All right, cool.
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Autumn
I'm trying to catch you live.
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Host
So. So. Okay, so. Alright, so. So you're, you're 18, the house gets raided, your mom goes off a Little bit. And what, what happens after that? Where do you go?
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Autumn
So the story gets way crazier. I'm sorry.
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Host
Go ahead, ahead.
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Autumn
So right off the rip, I am baffled. I remember the police escorting us out of the house. Everybody is getting zip tied. I didn't know what was going on. I had no idea. My siblings, they were children at the time. I was 18. But my siblings at the time were not. They were way younger than me. And my stepdad at the time didn't know what was going on either. Turns out my mom had been having a secret affair with our neighbors down the road. I guess they're going on with some polyamorous stuff kind of ordeal. Not that I'm judging or anything, just that's what was occurring. And so we get notified that they're involved and the police are arresting kind of like a couple people. And my stepdad still has no idea what's going on. The cop, though, at the time, we live in a really small country area, was talking to me about it, and he was like, hey, I'm just wanting to let you know what's going on. And he ends up telling me a little bit more than he should have. Whatever. A couple people get arrested. My mom's friends, the one she was engaging the affair with, and they go to jail. My mom doesn't go to jail, surprisingly, even though she's high, and she ends up admitting that it was method. So the next day, whatever, life goes on, she's pretending like nothing happened. And that's kind of a thing with her. Like, it's always been a thing with her, is that when she does these crazy things, she pretends like it didn't happen. And those things had occurred once before, twice before in my childhood when I lived with her before she married me off. And I was kind of numb to it, if that makes sense. Like, she'd always been pretty out there and done crazy things like holding guns to her head and stuff. You know, we live in the South. That's a pretty common thing, having access to those things. But it's not a pretty common thing to have your parent hold a gun to their head or anything like that. So it was kind of traumatic. But, you know, you don't know the definition of traumatic at that point in time. Like, you're like, I mean, maybe I was just so traumatized, I just didn't know. But, like, at 15 years old, seeing my mom hold a gun to her head, I just was like, this is normal, okay? Like, this ain't, like the worst thing I've seen. And so I just went about my day. So to. To me, at 18, this happening. I was like, this is because. Oh, I'm sorry for cussing.
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Host
Say whatever. Say whatever. Oh, you can say whatever you want. Go ahead.
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Autumn
Okay, cool. So I was like, this is bugs for this is happening. But, like, I. I didn't know that it was out of the realms of other people's lives because I still hadn't had friends or anything like that. I had one best friend through high school. Really the new my life. Yeah.
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Host
And when you. When you were so scared. So, okay, so when you were 18, do you. You didn't have any friends up at that point?
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Autumn
Not too many. Like, people. I'd had acquaintances, but I was really scared to make friends.
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Host
Were you. You were. You were like. Were you, like, going to public high school?
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Autumn
Yes. Yes. Yeah.
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Host
Okay. And so what.
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Autumn
Yeah.
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Host
What was it like for you, like, in school? And why were you afraid to make friends?
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Autumn
So when I was younger, I tried to have friends, but I didn't. You know, like how you talk about your life when you're a kid and you tell your friends what's going on? Like, you're like, my family's doing this, my family's doing that.
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Host
Yeah.
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Autumn
Yeah. A lot of them, once they heard what my family was doing, wouldn't let me hang out with their kids anymore. Or the vice versa of if they did hear it, they got so overly concerned that it would scare me because my mom was always. She was. The best way to explain it is, and I hate to compare it to this, but like a dictator, like, if you told anybody what was going on, you basically got punished at the max. Like, like, there was this one time I didn't understand what cheating was, and she was cheating on her husband, and I was going to church at the time. I was a kid. We live in the Bible Belt. I had accidentally told on her for cheating. And when I say accidentally, it truly was an accident. I was 13 years old. My grandparents raised me, so I didn't know no better. Like, my grandparents were really about religion. And my grandpa had asked me if someone's been coming over to our house. And I just told him, yeah, I didn't want to lie because he told me lion was seeing in that moment, 13 years old, you don't really think before you speak or anything like that. And she locked me in the room for three days with no food or anything holy. Yeah, it really scared me. So you kind of learn how to watch your P's and q's of what to do and what not to do. And I didn't know this wasn't normal for the most part. Like, honestly, I. I thought this was how life was until I was way older. Like, I. I had no idea. Like, and that's why my husband's always like, autumn, like, you need to. You need to just maybe talk about it. Like, let it out something. But, like, to me, that. That was how life was. Like, that. That was my in and out. Like, I didn't. I didn't know. Like, I didn't know other kids didn't go through that. So I thought it was normal to talk. Talk about. And then I realized it wasn't. So it made me watch who my friends were. I got scared. Like, who would tell the guidance counselor and if it would get back to my mom and if she'd punish me. And those were always my fears. Like, if she would punish me. Like, I was. I was so scared, and it made me so scared to do anything wrong. Like, I was. I was terrified of it.
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Host
So. Man. All right, so you're 18, and you don't even have, like, much of a network outside of your immediate family at this point to even really give you, as you're saying, much of a reference as to what is normal. Like, I like his. No. You know, even, like, the ability to, like, go over to a friend's house and, like, just. Just get any bit of a fucking idea of, like, what life is like outside of your. Your own, you know, is, like, tough when you're in that. When you're in that situation. So it becomes like, yeah, you start to believe, like, oh, this is just how shit is. Yeah, that makes a lot of sense. When. When you're 18 and the cops come and shit. Where. Where. Where do you go after that? Like, I guess. How did you. Because I know you. You kind of. How old are you now, by the way, if you don't mind me asking?
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Autumn
I'm 27.
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Host
27, okay. All right, so from 18, what's the story of, like. Like, I get. So did the police. They arrested. They arrested your mom, right?
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Autumn
No, actually, we live in such a small town that it turns out that my mom knew the officer knew everything. And, yeah, they were like, hey, what's going on? Ended up the people she was having an affair with had a meth lab. So she. She told on them for having that, and they ended up getting arrested. And I don't know what the technicalities of it were or anything like that, but they lived down the road Where. Where we were, like, at the time. And they were related to my stepdad, and my stepdad told him who knows what I was. I was only 18 at the time. I didn't understand, you know, how connections worked or anything like that. So I don't. I don't know the ins and outs of it, but I knew she didn't get in trouble because she got to stay home and they got arrested, so.
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Host
And then how much. How much longer did you live with her at the house?
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Autumn
Probably three days. So after the second day, she had threatened to shoot my brother at the time, who was 12. She had told him that I took you into this world and I'll bring you out. And I remember hearing that just like, I can't with this no more. Like, you know, like, I took care of my siblings all my life. Like, in my head, I was like, these are my kids. It just. It done something to me. And I was like, I can't anymore. So I remember packing at the time, and this probably sounds so silly, but I packed my. I had like a PS3 and a couple other devices and not many things, you know, because I just came back home, I packed it in my car. And I'd got my first job because, like I said, I was married off at 16, and he didn't believe in a woman working or anything. So I'd got a job. I was. I was at my point of, I'm gonna do this. Like, I'm gonna figure it out. So I. I got a job, and I was gonna figure it out. Like, that was my mindset. So I packed all my stuff in my car, I ran off. I slept a couple days in a Walmart parking lot with all my stuff in my car, going to work the next day. And then my best friend from high school, the one singular friend I did have, I was like, hey, do you want a roommate? Like, we'll find a place. And I started looking at the newspaper, and I found a place quickly, and the guy just wanted a $450 down posit. I was like, hey, that's nothing. And we did that. And I went from there and got that.
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Host
And what's going on? How many siblings do you have?
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Autumn
So I have three that I know of, but I don't know my biological dad that well. So when we did a 23 or whatever DNA test, it popped up. The couple I got to meet, two of my dad's children, they said we had many, but I don't. I don't know. And I've never Really met them, but by my mom, I had two that I got to know.
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Host
And so. Okay, so you're living with your friends, you found a $450, you found an apartment you can afford, and you know what's going on. Yeah, I guess so. That must have been really difficult because it's like, what's going on with your siblings at the time? Because it's like, you got. It's hard enough to fucking, like, be able to, like, fend for yourself in that situation. Are you. Are you still at this time, like, keeping contact with your siblings and stuff?
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Autumn
Yeah, I am. So at the time, I was messaging them and stuff, and I had got a hold of my youngest sibling, Kayla. She had told me, like, what was going on, stuff like that, and how hard she was dealing with it. My middle sibling, she had dealt with my mom a lot and was kind of close to my mom. We didn't know about what triangulation was, so we had went to therapy a couple times, each of us, but I went to therapy the most. So we learned about what triangulation was, and it's called. Or basically the epitome of it is hitting your siblings against each other for whatever benefit it is for the parent.
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Host
Whoa.
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Autumn
So at the time they were. My mom was triangulating for a minute. It didn't happen long because she kind of realized that I was. Her financial gain and stuff. But she was like your older sister. She's. She left us. Look what she did. She left us, and she left you all here alone. And so my younger sibling was telling me this, and that kind of distressed me because I was the one that would get them up for the school bus and get them ready for school, get them off the school bus and all that stuff. So I. I didn't really understand what was going on at the time. So, like, you know, it distressed me because I was like, how dare she talk bad about me after all that she did. And I. I didn't know what was going on in reality, but from what I was seeing at that point and at that time was that she was talking awful about me. But that eventually died when she realized that I would be the one that would be taking care of my siblings and stuff. Sorry, just turned my husband.
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Host
Yeah. Was that your husband? Oh. Oh, yeah. Is that your husband saying what's up?
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Autumn
Is it okay if he gives a little shout out?
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Host
Sure, yeah.
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Autumn
He has to go to work, so. I'm sorry. I've been talking while he's been asleep for work.
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Host
Hey, man, I've been listening to your.
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Autumn
Podcast for, like, I want to say like four or five months now, but.
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Host
I've just been binge listening to it.
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Autumn
Work and you're doing good stuff, man.
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Host
Oh, thanks, man. I appreciate it. Appreciate it. Have a. Have a. What do you do? Where are you going?
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Autumn
I work at Walmart.
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Host
Stuff on the shelf. Kick ass. Have a, have a, Have a nice day at work, brother.
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Autumn
All right, thanks, man. You too.
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Host
All right, later, brother.
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Autumn
Thank you. I appreciate that so much. I'm sorry. He just.
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Host
Really good. That's all good. That's all good. So. Yeah, go ahead.
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Autumn
Yeah, they. My mom had kind of, at the moment, they were kids. They. She pitted on against me like I was abandoning them. And I never realized at that point what that, that move was. I. I didn't know, like, I had no idea that that was what was occurring. But months later, she, I guess came around like, oh, you know, she's not that bad. I guess I was wrong. And they reached back out to me and was like, hey, we need help. And so I started sending them money. I didn't know better. I was just worried. So I started sending them money.
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Host
You sent him. You're sending money over to your mom?
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Autumn
Yeah, for the kids.
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Host
And where, and where are you working at this time? Like, how are you making money?
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Autumn
I was working at a factory. It was just a little, tiny, small town factory. Wasn't much at the time. Minimum wage was 725. We made like a dollar more. It was like 825. But I was just, I was just worried. So I was scared, honestly, that my siblings just wouldn't get naive.
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Host
And. Are you. Are you at this time? Like, are. Are you have. Do you have enough to, like, take care of, like, both yourself? Like, do you have enough to take care of yourself and have enough leftover that you're sending to your. To your mom?
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Autumn
Honestly, no. Like, if I'm. If I'm being quite honest, I remember having that conversation and being like, hey, like, I don't. I don't have a lot of money. But in her head, she viewed it as, well, you're working, so you should. So I didn't like, correlate that that was wrong because I was like, this is my family. I. I also became pregnant probably about two months later.
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Host
You got pregnant two months later?
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Autumn
Yeah, like, probably about two months later from sending all that money. The best friend that I had roommated with, I'd kind of formulated a relationship with, but we'd been best friends since eighth grade, so I Thought it was safe. And so we were like, hey, if we're friends and we're living together, we should just date, like. And that was that. So we decided to be together, and then I found out I was pregnant. I know it's a lot. I'm so sorry.
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Host
No, no. If. I mean, if. If you're down to keep telling your life story, I'm. I remain. I remain all ears for as long as you want to keep talking.
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Autumn
Okay, so as long as you're good. I'm good.
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Host
All right, great.
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Autumn
I feel bad.
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Host
No, no, no, no, you don't. You don't have to feel bad. I remain all ears for as long as you want to keep talking.
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Autumn
It's a really long story, so I'm gonna apologize in advance.
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Host
Oh, go ahead.
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Autumn
So that was my best friend. We'd been best friends since eighth grade. So there's a little bit of backstory to that. My. My gallbladder had failed and had attached to my liver, and so everything started shutting down at once. But my mom had said I was faking it when I was in high school, so I was getting sicker and sicker, but his mom was the only one that gave a heck about me. So she was like, hey, something's like. She worked at a hospital, and she's like, something's really wrong with her. But my parents never listened. They were always like, she's faking it. She faking it. She just wants attention. So there's a lot of backstory there too. So when my gallbladder had finally attached to my liver, I passed out at school, and an ambulance was called, and I had to have an emergency surgery. And when that had happened, I guess that kind of brought me and him pretty close. That, you know, our friendship was, like, tight, like, you know, and his parents were close to me and stuff. But, you know, at the time, I. I knew I didn't want a boyfriend or anything like that, so I was like, no, I hadn't at the time. Knew what my parents had in store for me with the whole marriage stuff, and. But life goes on, and he's still my friend throughout all of that. We're friends. We move in together. He had a girlfriend. I had a boyfriend. At the time, we were both adults. I was 18. He was 18. But it just kind of coincided that we worked out. We both went through bad breakups or whatever, and we were like, okay, we'll be together while we were living together, and we ended up having a kid, and we're like, okay, so we'll just make this work. We got married. And you know, where we live, if you're having a baby, you get married. That's just that. So we got married. We had a son with some birth defects and stuff, and it was just really hard. We didn't know what to do. It was. It was scary, really scary. And he's. He's not a bad person or anything. I'm not going to diss him at all. And then we just didn't know what we were doing. We were both kids, and he knew about how my family done me, how they had kind of arranged a marriage and stuff. And his family was really understanding, and they kind of took me under their wing, and they were really good to me. So I felt like I had it made, but I didn't know what battles I had ahead of me. So I'd went through postpartum really bad because I didn't know what I was doing, and I didn't have parents to help me along that journey or anything. And it. It was extra hard because you're having a kid with birth defects, you. You want help, and you don't know what you're doing, and you especially don't know what you're doing with that extra thing added on. But he. He turned out great. Like, he's a wonderful kid. He. He can do everything a normal kid can. He went above and beyond that, like. And so I'm so proud of him. But at the time, I had. I had no clue what I was doing. I was terrified. Like, absolutely scared. Like, I was like, I'm gonna let this kid down. Like, I especially didn't know what I was doing because, like, I. I'd never seen a parent be a good parent. How do I be a good parent to my kid?
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Host
Right, Right, Right.
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Autumn
And if I'm not letting you get a word in, stop me, because.
- [37:08]
Host
No, no, no, no, please. No, please, keep going. Keep going, please.
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Autumn
So it's hard. I went into counseling. I got on some antidepressants and stuff, but I. I was so scared of any kind of medication because of what my family was like that I would refuse it at every curve. I was like, even the antidepressant, like, which is so silly in hindsight, but at the time, you know, you. You really don't know. Like, you truly don't know. So I was like, oh, my gosh, this is drugs. So I was like, this is bad. Freaked out, flushed all my antidepressants down the toilet. Because I was like, I see my mom take pills, like, so I was like, I don't want to be like her. So I, I really didn't know what I was, what I was doing. So that, that took a lot of a mental episodes of figuring out. And I'd had a lot of help with his family along the way because they knew how my family was like, they were like, we know you don't have support, we know you don't have people. And. And to this day I'm still so thankful because if it hadn't been for them, I probably wouldn't made it. Like I probably, like honestly, if I'm telling the truth, wouldn't be here. So I'm, I'm really grateful for them.
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Host
And so when do think when? Yeah, I guess. Yeah.
- [38:59]
Autumn
No, I mean you get better.
- [39:01]
Host
Well, you know, please, I mean, I mean please keep going, tell the story or whatever because I want it because I'm fascinated. I want to hear how you're doing now, but I want to wait because I want to, I want you to. You know, if you have a whole timeline you want to go through, I'm. Yeah, I'm curious. Yeah.
- [39:20]
Autumn
If you got time, I'm here to talk.
- [39:22]
Host
Yeah, we got time. We got time.
- [39:25]
Autumn
So this journey goes on way on. So at that time I was probably 21. I had a 3 year old at that point. Okay, so that's right about where I left off. I'm 27 now, so it's about six years that I got to go. If you're good with listening.
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Host
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Autumn
So I thought I wanted to be a cop and that was what my heart was set on. I was like, hey, I'm going to be a cop. I'm going to do this. I want to make a difference in kids world, in my world. Like, you know, in my head I was like, hey, I'm going to be the thing that saved me when I was a kid. Because trust me along my childhood cops. And I'm not like you know, backing any kind of movement in this by saying it. I'm just meaning honestly like for my perspective. In my timeline I went through a lot of abuse and the only thing that saved me was people showing up and there was really no outside force beyond that. Like I didn't have family that stepped in or anything like that. So I was like, I want to be that. I want, I want to be that. And I thought that I really can make a difference. But it turns out in this area where we live, you can't look, that's just that everybody knows everybody, they let them off. They, like, if somebody's hurting their kids, they. They just turn the other way. You know, if they know them, they're like, hey, I went to high school with them. They just. They just don't care. And I went to that field for a while, couple years, and it was just taking a huge toll on me personally, and I just couldn't take it no more. I was like, I can't. I can't do this. I absolutely cannot do this. I can't watch everything that I went through go on to other people. And so I was like, I have to sit down. I have to. I have to take a breather. So my husband. I eventually moved on from my son's father because just life happens. And me and my son's father had separated. Who wouldn't like, dramatic or anything? We just went on our own paths, and we peacefully delegated. Like, hey, like, we were just friends growing up, and we should have always been friends, and we peacefully done it, you know, and that was the best thing ever, like, to me was, yeah, yeah. You know, you always hear about. Yeah. And so my whole life had been drama, but to me, right. Kind of like a breath of fresh air, you know?
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Host
Yeah. Yeah. I mean. Yeah, that's the vibe I'm getting, too, is like, that's after so much, like, strife in. In your life to have, you know, this event, because it does just, you know, happens of people, like, growing apart and moving on from each other. But to have it happen in a. In a. In a peaceful way, it's like, oh, things can, you know, be chill at least for once, you know, I mean.
- [42:39]
Autumn
I won't say it was an easy thing, like, at all. Like, I will not, because, you know, I don't want to discredit anybody that's going through it right now, but it definitely was hard. There was a lot of stuff that had happened, and, you know, I. I hold no resentment. And that's the best feeling to me is like, oh, good. Like, so Adam, out of that, like, I'm like, at least I took something from my childhood and made it useful. Like, you know, I didn't want to be like that. And I became better, like. And so I'm like, okay, good. Good for you. But the process after was not easy because going back home after everything I'd been through growing up.
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Host
Oh, so you went back with your mom?
- [43:31]
Autumn
Yes.
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Host
And you bring. And.
- [43:37]
Autumn
Back to my mom.
- [43:38]
Host
Okay, so. So you. So you. You start. You were living with your sister, and then you went back to your mom.
- [43:44]
Autumn
Yes. So My sister went through a bad divorce when I decided to go through mine, and I've lived with her for a couple months, but my sister was like, I can't, you know, do my stuff anymore, so I have to go. So I was like, oh, my God, I have no other option now. Like, I'm. I'm just getting on my feet. So now what, what do I do? And it ended up with being back at my mom's, which sucked wholeheartedly.
- [44:16]
Host
And at this. At this. At this point. So what's. What's your kind of custody arrangement at this point with. With your. With your ex husband?
- [44:29]
Autumn
Split. Perfect split. So he's like, as long as you're good, I'm good. And we would arrange. So if something was going on, which he knew my family and stuff, he knew how they were, and he was like, if something's going on, you just tell me and we'll make it work, you know, like, if something's going on your way, like, we'll just delay it, whatever. And we dealt with the grandmother a lot more than anything else, like, on his side. So if something was going on, we knew grandma could step in and help.
- [45:14]
Host
So. Yeah. What's it like back at. At that brief stint back at your mom's?
- [45:22]
Autumn
Not good. My sister. I took more so worry for my sister at the time than me, which was just. I couldn't help it. I should have been worrying about my process of my own emotions, but it's just, I. I can't. Like, I can't. Like, I would always just take over for her or whoever I was around at that moment, so I could be dealing with the sky falling. And I was like, what's going on with you? Like, let's help you. Like, whatever.
- [45:59]
Host
Yeah.
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Autumn
Which didn't give me the ability to process what I wanted to process. But at the same time, I was just like, I can't process what I'm dealing with, so I want to process what you're dealing with. And so I guess more so I was worried about her and what she was like. Her and her man ended up working out temporarily, so we went back to her house and we stayed there for a while. And she was good with it. I was good with it, but my mom was just. My mom angry. Didn't want, I guess, us, one of us to succeed or something. That's just her mentality at the time. It would bounce back and forth between. Between me and her. And so we would just kind of talk to each other and trust each other more so than we would. Whatever outsourced help we were getting. I was like, hey, we'll figure it out. And that's when I met my husband. Now I had two jobs. I worked at a gel, and I worked at a liquor store, which is the funniest thing. Thing.
- [47:21]
Host
I know you worked at a. You. You said a. A jail.
- [47:27]
Autumn
Yeah. So I was a CEO, and then by. Not. And then I was a liquor store clerk by day. So a lot of the times I'd have people that I had in jail at night be seeing me the next day.
- [47:47]
Host
The next day at the liquor store, that is. Yeah.
- [47:52]
Autumn
But I was cool with it. Like, you know, like, I've always been like, really just, hey, whatever goes with the flow, you know? But that didn't always work in my favor. So I had two jobs, you know, I wouldn't home a lot anyway, so I was like, you know, like, we'll figure out what goes on at home, on. On my time, you know, if you want. And she was cool with it because she. They always let me figure out their problems, which is my downfall, because that kind of puts a lot on my plate. But at the same time, is also worrisome because I'm also like, I know we didn't have parents that guided us growing up, so I. I can't help but to worry about them until this day. Like, do you all know what you're doing? Like, do y'all need help? You know, but. So at the time, we. We were figuring out she went back home, whatever. I met my husband at my job, my second job, not my first job. We knew each other growing up, but we didn't really know each other. So we were meeting.
- [49:10]
Host
And you met him at the liquor store.
- [49:11]
Autumn
At the liquor store, not the jail. But it was all because of a proposal. So they were buying stuff for the proposal. So I. I'd really never gave him a chance. I was always like, yeah, I'm married at the time before. And then afterward, I was like, I'm divorced, and I don't want to really talk to nobody.
- [49:37]
Host
What? I'm sorry. One sec. What's that? I just want to. So I just. Your current husband comes in, he's buying stuff for a proposal?
- [49:49]
Autumn
Yes, for his brother.
- [49:51]
Host
Oh, okay, okay, okay. I thought he met. I thought he met you. Okay. No, no, no, no. It's totally cool. I was just like, oh, it's about.
- [49:59]
Autumn
To get way more crazy.
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G
Yeah.
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Host
I thought I was about to get right, because I thought I was like, oh, he met you while buying alcohol for a Proposal for his wife.
- [50:07]
Autumn
No, no, no, no, no.
- [50:09]
Host
Okay, all right. Got you, got you.
- [50:14]
Autumn
Never had a serious relationship, like, maybe once, but beyond me. No, it was his brother. But at the time, we. We'd been friends before, working together and stuff, like in the past. But, like, I was always like, no. You know, like, I'm. I'm very, like, consistent with what I feel. And I'm like, if I'm married, I'm like, no. And then, you know, like, things like that. Like, average people stuff.
- [50:46]
Host
So you. You. So you knew of this. So this. I mean, it's so small town. Like, you know, of this guy before he. He comes into the liquor store. Okay, got you. Gotcha.
- [50:57]
Autumn
Yes. He. He spoke to me once or twice. I was like, no, no. I'd shut him down every time. And, you know, and I never felt bad about it until I'd got with him, but I'd always shut him down, like, no, no, no, no, no, no. But this time, I guess he just got lucky because we. I'd been divorced for a minute, and all my friends, like, I. I'm gonna brag on them like, all my friends are so pretty. And he came into my job, and I'm used to all my friends getting all the attention, like, and. And I'm not knocking myself, but, you know, like, I was just really not there, if that makes sense. Like, I'd always be in the background. And he had walked past them, like, talking to him, and he was like, hey, Autumn. And I was like, oh, hey. And then that won me over, like, instantly, like, that. He walked past me, the Malibu Barbies, and went to me.
- [52:05]
Host
Was that, like. So you had kind of this feeling that, like, I guess, of like, oh, like, I. I. You know, you're. You're not usually the one getting. Getting the attention. And finally somebody, you know, pays you some mind.
- [52:21]
Autumn
Yeah, because everybody in the small town don't pay attention to the goth girl. They're like, devil worshipper. Stay in your corner.
- [52:29]
Host
But that. But the. But the. The goth. The goth girl vibe was what drew him to you?
- [52:35]
Autumn
Yes. I was like, oh, okay.
- [52:38]
Host
Very nice, very nice.
- [52:39]
Autumn
This will work.
- [52:41]
Host
Very nice, very nice.
- [52:42]
Autumn
And I knew he played, like, music and stuff like that, so I was like, oh, okay. So it's not just like a king or a fish or something like that, you know, like. Like, this might actually be what he's into. So. And so I was like, oh, okay. I guess I'll give this man a chance. Anyway, we hit it off after that, and he was kind of My saving grace. And I'm not trying to, like, you know, fluff it, but he really was, because I had no idea what normal was like. So when I met him, he kind of, like, it threw me by surprise because I was like, why is this man so. Not to me? Like, who are you? What are you doing? Like, he started seeing me, and he was doing so many nice things for me, and I was like, what the. Like, who the do you think you are? Like, you know, just on the defense, Like, I couldn't help it. That's just how it was. Like, you know, like, nobody's nice unless they have an ulterior motive, like, in my head at that moment. And he kind of took me under his wing, and he was like, hey, like, you know, I want you to open up. I want you to share and start. So I started telling him how my life was. I start. And he. He kind of knew who my family was, things like that. Just because we live in the smallest town. And he had no idea, because my mom paints this picture perfect, like, Facebook life. I don't have social media, so I don't know, but from what I understand, picture perfect, whatever. And so I'm telling him, and I'm showing him, like, I have, you know, proof and all that. I'm like, this is what's going on in my life. And he's like, a gas. Like, I can't believe that. Like, and I guess it just blew me away because it's like, what do you mean? Like, you know, I never really dated. I never. I'd had two people in my life, and that was it. That I'd been with my. My whole adulthood of, you know, serious things. And I was like, what do you mean? Like, the same. The same Something you heard. And the more I'd tell him, he'd just be like, what? Like, you're. You're joking. And then he'd see it. Like, he would actually get to see physical proof of it, knowing my family. And it just kind of blew him away because he didn't realize people could really be like that. Like, because he was used to his family being nice and taking them in. And, like, every moment that, like, someone was feeling something, everybody would talk about it. Things like that. He just. He'd never seen anything like that. So he was, like, aghast, I guess.
- [55:56]
Host
And so this is when you were 23. So you. This is about four years ago that you guys.
- [56:07]
Autumn
Yes.
- [56:07]
Host
Not. Not me for the first time, but. But reconnect. But you reconnect?
- [56:11]
Autumn
Yeah, yeah.
- [56:13]
Host
And then. And then how does that relationship flourish? Do you guys move in together? Like, what. What's the. The sort of. The timeline of that?
- [56:25]
Autumn
So at a certain point, we do move in together. We move in and everything's going good and stuff. But he's starting to get to really see how my family is. Like, he's. He's like, oh, my gosh. Like, I didn't. I didn't know. And at the time, my sister had ran off, which this is another side story. She had ran off from that prior relationship and she got into some wild stuff and I guess kind of reenacted my mom a little bit because she got into a bad situation. I'd offered to help her and stuff, but I didn't know what she was doing. So he was, like, seeing it and he was like, no, we can't get involved with it beyond that point. Like, before that, we could offer her somewhere to go, but we didn't know what she was doing at the time, which was some drugs and stuff like that. And he was like, no, we. We can't help her beyond that point because we don't know what she's bringing in. He kind of got to see how everything was going on, that part, which was scary because I never encountered that with my own siblings and stuff. And then my mom would get involved, and my dad was friends with his dad growing up and stuff. So there was always, oh, Autumn stuck up.
- [57:54]
Host
And Autumn, your dad. Your dad was friends with. I'm. I'm sorry if I'm messing this up here, but your dad was friends with your assistant. Stirs your. With your.
- [58:10]
Autumn
Oh, no, no.
- [58:13]
Host
Oh, yeah. Okay. Okay, that's what I thought. That's what I thought. That's what I thought. Okay. Your dad was friends with your current husband's dad growing up.
- [58:20]
Autumn
Yes.
- [58:21]
Host
Okay, that's what I thought.
- [58:22]
Autumn
So we had. We had no idea, though. Like, we knew kinda, but we didn't know, like, how close everybody was. Like, we. We had no idea because I hadn't talked to my parents in years. Like, you know, at this point, like, it's probably a good year before I'd spoke to my mom. So we. We really didn't know the background of that. And none of that stuff was kind of shared, but it turns out they were actually pretty close growing up and stuff like that. Yes. Which is my mom's fifth husband, and she had been. She. Which was her third husband's cousin, which is even more crazy backstory.
- [59:08]
Host
Your mom. Your mom's fifth husband was her third Husband's cousin.
- [59:15]
Autumn
Yes.
- [59:16]
Host
That's a whole thing. That's a whole thing.
- [59:18]
Autumn
Oh, yeah. Like when I tell you it's all crazy, it's all crazy.
- [59:25]
Host
So I don't want to skip too much if you have some stuff to, you know, that you still kind of want to talk about. But I, I, I'm just, I'm very curious. So you're 27 now.
- [59:40]
Autumn
Yes.
- [59:41]
Host
What's. First of all, and I actually probably should have asked you this about an hour ago. Have you talked, have you talked about all this stuff with a real therapist?
- [59:52]
Autumn
Um, so probably a while back. Yes. But I kind of, I kind, it kind of gets old after a while.
- [60:02]
Host
I'm sure because.
- [60:05]
Autumn
We live in a small town, the therapists don't really stay therapist long here, if that makes sense.
- [60:12]
Host
Sure.
- [60:13]
Autumn
So you're having to retail your whole life to someone new in a matter of like eight months?
- [60:19]
Host
No, it's, it's. Well, here's what you can do is now that you've told this story, you can just send any new therapist this podcast and be like, here's some homework. That way you don't have to tell anybody.
- [60:31]
Autumn
There you go.
- [60:32]
Host
Yeah.
- [60:36]
Autumn
Yeah. As surprise. I could like, here's my link.
- [60:42]
Host
Tldr. And then that would probably work. Yeah. But so I mean, how are you, like, how are you doing now? Where, where at the future. I mean, you're, you're clearly a very, a very smart person. And just from the way that you present yourself and the way you talk, and I know that the way that people present themselves and the way that they talk is, is not, does not tell a full story of, of things. But you know what? You, you, from the way you're presenting yourself to me on this call, despite everything, you turned out pretty, pretty damn well as a human being. How's your life going? How's your life going now at 27? What's up?
- [61:33]
Autumn
Okay, so to be honest, I'm having a hard time finding functionality in a career that is not law enforcement, that that's my personal struggle. So I'm trying to find myself a place, not customer service because I never realized maybe after work in that field, I'm not customer service based. But me and my husband, we are living with his family and we're trying to figure things out. We had moved despite all bad things. My mom had hooked her sinks in probably about a year ago that we should come live with her. And we did for a minute. And then my husband really got to see my reality, like truly got to See my reality of how they were and stuff, and it kind of bit us regardless. But I, you know, a kid wants their parent. That's just natural human instinct. I. I thought she changed because my. My stepdad at the time had promoted the idea that she was better, she wasn't like she was before, etc. We moved back in with her for a little bit and it just was awful. It ended up with me pretty much being their maid and stuff because I just can't help it. That's just my personality. I just aim to please, I guess, is the common reference for that. And my husband would get tired of it at the time. And so we were trying to get our gateway into being able to get our own home and stuff like that because we. We wanted to start our marriage out building. And I guess it didn't really work out that way, but we're doing good beyond that because we got out of their grasp of them constantly keeping us in that circle of cycle, I guess you would say, of abuse, because that's really ultimately what it is. And he realized that before I did.
- [64:07]
Host
And how is your. Your son doing?
- [64:11]
Autumn
Great. Great. Absolutely phenomenal. But he. He shielded from a lot of things. Yes. I hate to paint that picture to him that everything's fine, but I'd rather him have everything spawned and everything's bad and the sky's falling.
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Host
Yeah. I mean, it's. But you know. Yeah. I think to shield him from that. I mean, it's so amazing that you. You grew up in like, such crazy circumstances and now you have this opportunity. You have seized the opportunity to like, you know, do things, you know, better and right for your son. It's pretty cool.
- [64:57]
Autumn
Yeah. That's the, the best legacy I can leave behind is honestly that I did not let him go through an inch of what I went through. And that's the proudest thing I am.
- [65:08]
Host
Yeah.
- [65:09]
Autumn
Is that he's never got to see a day of that life, you know?
- [65:13]
Host
Yeah, yeah, yeah. And is it. Does your husband have any kids or are you two both just like kind of taking care of the one?
- [65:26]
Autumn
Just the one. I would like them in the future. But ultimately that fear lives within of. I just don't want to repeat cycles and I'd rather be on a good fit when we start that than, you know, history and all that, because my son was not really necessarily planned, but he's a blessing beyond that, you know, regardless. But if I can keep it on a good fit of having one planned when it comes to making sure I'm Of a good state of mind. He's of a good state of mind. I'd rather do that. That way I know that my kids will never see a day of the life that I had.
- [66:13]
Host
Mm. And is every. Is everything still cool with your ex husband in terms of, like, sharing custody and whatnot?
- [66:23]
Autumn
Yeah, everything did work out well with that. We did have a couple bumps in the road, but it was mostly outside sources. Like, he. He had moved on for a bit. The ex wife didn't like me, and, you know, like, that's fine. She don't have to. And I'm cool with that. Like, she didn't have to like me. As long as we can coincide together, I'm. I'm cool with that. But she didn't want to coincide, and that ultimately led to separation and all that because she didn't want me in the picture. But eventually that worked out, and, you know, I didn't interfere, like, it's not my business or anything. She just didn't want me in the picture, and that wasn't part of her plan, and it didn't work out in her favor that she couldn't get me out of the picture. And so life went on after that. But.
- [67:22]
Host
So I got. I got two things, I think. One, I. I got a question for you. And then two, if you're down, I. I am looking at the live Twitch chat, and I'll take some questions from them in just a bit if you want. But. Well, let me. Let me ask you this, where you are now. Like, I know that you're kind of trying to. To find something outside of, like, law enforcement or retail. If you could, like, wave a magic wand and your life could be any way that you. You wanted it to be, what would that look like? Curious.
- [68:00]
Autumn
Business. Business. I wish I went into business. I wish I'd went into school for it. I. I never realized how well I am kind of situation. Like, I've been a manager many times before, and I didn't realize I was good at it. I. I'd been a manager a couple times at a call center and Walmart, things like that. I. I'd never realized how good I am at mediating. I mean, I guess that probably comes naturally from my family, but maybe given that that was my role a lot growing up was the mediator. I. I would have picked something in business, like, absolutely, hands down.
- [68:51]
Host
I. I have, I have. I. I have no fucking idea if this is worth anything. But listen, I'll. I'll post this on Spotify and YouTube, and I don't. I don't know if the, the people of Spotify comments and YouTube comments can be helpful to your journey in any sense, but if, if they can, I don't know. I. I don't know if we can get somebody a job via the Therapy Gecko podcast, but if we could, it would be cool. So, you know, I'll post this and, you know, I don't know, maybe, maybe you can connect with somebody in the YouTube comments who could help you. I don't know if that's a pipe dream, but it would, it would be cool if it could happen. You don't have, you don't have, like. So you said you don't have any social media, right?
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Autumn
Yeah, not really. I have Spotify. Have you. Things like that, but kind of just died down from social media after working in the field. I could tell you a crazy story about that, but I, I just kind of got scared after a while. I had a woman that painted my name with her blood on the wall and it kind of scared me.
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Host
You had a woman who painted your name with her blood on the wall?
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Autumn
Yeah, at the jail.
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Host
Yeah. That's. Yeah, that's a lot. That's a lot. Someone in the chat just said, I hate when that happens.
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Autumn
Me too, Pam, me too.
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Host
But, yeah, I. Well, look, you know, I'll post this on YouTube and Spotify. I don't know if somebody can help you, help you out. If they could, that would be cool. But at least, you know, I'm sure there'll be a lot of people in the comments who are, you know, very, very, very supportive of your, of your tale in general. Do you want. Is it okay if I ask some questions from the Twitch chats?
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Autumn
Yeah, absolutely. Go ahead.
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Host
Okay, so Twitch Chat. You can ask some questions real quick. Someone said if you could move out of Appalachia, where would you go?
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Autumn
Maine.
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Host
Maine?
- [76:22]
Autumn
Where?
- [76:22]
Host
Where In Maine, anywhere.
- [76:25]
Autumn
I love Stephen King. He's one of my favorite authors. And, you know, if anybody really reads any of his books, all of his books are placed somewhere up there. And I think it would just be interesting to kind of go there.
- [76:41]
Host
You ever. You ever thought about writing? Writing a book or something like that?
- [76:46]
Autumn
Kind of. Sometimes when I'm really stressed out, I go on Word document on my PC and just type it all out.
- [76:54]
Host
Hey, hey, be. Be careful, or else you'll end up the Vice President of the United States States. Waka waka. Hold on. Oh, what's your favorite Stephen King novel?
- [77:11]
Autumn
Okay, so Needful Things is up there or the stand. Needful Things are the standmares, though, usually of, like, apocalyptic things. I just can't help it. That's usually my nightmares.
- [77:30]
Host
Somebody said, did you and your siblings work things out after everything that happens?
- [77:38]
Autumn
Yes, actually. My sister, she had lost a baby last year, which had created an open way for me and her to work it out. Because immediately I left my job. My job was like, we're gonna fire you. At the time, I was working in nursing. They were like, we're gonna fire you if you can't come in tonight. I was like, it. Like, family's more important. So I told my husband. I was like, we're going to. You know, I'm. I'm trying not to give away my location, but we're gonna go upstate and we're gonna go see her and watch the baby, you know, with her, because they're pulling off a life support. And we went up there and me and my sister made way and she got better. I had no idea. She'd been working on her recovery and stuff like that. But my youngest sibling. Me and my youngest sibling have always been close. Like, they moved a couple states away, and I'd always been really close to them. Anything they needed, I was there. Just my middle sibling was the one we had a big fallout with. I just, I. I couldn't be a part of what she was going through. And I tried and tried, but I just can't. Like, if it's. It's at that point. But she finally got better. She'd lost the baby, and I was there by her side. I'd made sure. You know, I didn't even care that I'd lost the job. I lost the job to go be with her, make sure that she's okay through that. My mom made it hard, but I was. I was there, and she really made up with me at that moment. And we're still Pretty close now. So, yeah, we all made up.
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Host
This is a question I'm very curious about. Someone said after. After all this, are you still religious or spiritual?
- [79:46]
Autumn
No. I hate to say that. I really do. I mean, there's moments, you know, in my nature where I'll. I'll find myself praying. I. I can't help it. So much instinctual because for those two years that I was married to somebody really religious and stuff, their family really helped me and they were really good people and they. They tried their best to make sure they didn't believe in depression or anything like that, but they tried to be there for me and they taught me a lot of what being a grown up was. So I guess some parts of that are sentiment to me, and there will be moments that I'll catch myself praying, but beyond that, I struggle with that category just because of everything that's happened to me. And not that I'm dissing it or denying it, I don't. I don't want to ever do that because I truly don't know what's beyond those realms and all that, but I'd like to believe that there's something, you know.
- [81:02]
Host
Autumn, thanks a lot for sharing this, for choosing my. My Silly Gecko podcast to share share this story. I mean, you could easily have written your own book or, you know, I mean, you still. You still could. You still could. But, you know, thanks for choosing this show to tell this. The story on this has been incredibly interesting. I'm sure I. I'm sure that I actually even. I kind of peaked a little bit on the Twitch chat and, and saw. Saw a little bit of this. I'm sure that you're not alone in a lot of this situation. And so, you know, you're probably speaking on things that, you know, perhaps other people listen to the show are. Are familiar with. So, you know, I. I appreciate you sharing all of this and your husband for inspiring you to do it. How did it feel to sit and chat for an hour and 15 minutes?
- [82:12]
Autumn
Honestly, if I could say it, it's been good because, you know, you could talk to someone, you know, all day, and that's great, absolutely wonderful. But talking to a stranger and telling your story is just different, if that makes sense. It feels like you're telling something off your chest that you couldn't tell to anybody else, even though you know you could, but it's just kind of like a weight off your shoulders.
- [82:47]
Host
Autumn, is there anything else or any. Anything at all? Any little ass aspect or any little whatever. Anything at all that you want to say to bring us home before we. Before we get out of here.
- [83:04]
Autumn
Sure. If you're going through anything like this, even in my teenage years, I remember thinking like this. You're not here just to survive. You're not. You just. I know in this moment it might feel like you have to survive, but you don't. You just keep pushing and eventually it'll get better. Maybe right now, survival, but eventually it's not survival. You get to live. So don't feel like it's just survival. You get to live at some point.
- [83:35]
Host
Mm. Mm. Congratulations on living your life and, you know, being as prosperous as you are. And thank you again for. For sharing your story with us.
- [83:54]
Autumn
Absolutely. Thank you for listening.
- [83:56]
Host
Of course. Have a good rest of the night, Autumn.
- [84:01]
Autumn
You too. Bye. Bye.
- [84:02]
Host
Bye. Bye. There's a super interesting call. I don't know if I have any post call thoughts. I really don't. Yeah, I kind of feel like that. That spoke for itself. I don't know if I have any. I don't know if I have any. Anything else to add for that. That was cool. I don't. I. It's like, it would be cool if, like, I don't know. I don't know how we can help this person out. Like, if, like, she didn't exact. She didn't. I don't think she mentioned where she lives. Right. Is like, okay. If. Well, I. Look, I don't know if you own. If you own some kind of business in the. In the Southern United States and you want to. I don't know how we would do that. I don't know how logistically we would do this, but if you. If you own some kind of business in the Southern United States or Appalachia and you think you could help this lady in the. Leave a YouTube comment. I don't know if that's logistically the best way to do this, but leave a YouTube comment, and then if she wants, she can make a YouTube account and hop in the YouTube comments. But, yeah, maybe we can do it in the YouTube comments. That would be cool. I don't know. It would be sick to get somebody a job based on the therapy Gecko podcast. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know. I feel like I don't. You. I feel like we don't usually do like this, but I was. I was very touched by this. This woman's story. It was really cool and I really appreciate her sharing. All right, we'll be back. Don't worry. Don't worry guys. We'll be back next episode with a story about someone diarrhea ing at prom or you know, having three testicles or something like that. Thank you all for listening to the the Therapy Gecko podcast show thing and see you all around the universe.
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Autumn
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Autumn
But he's not really an expert.
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