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Welcome to Gospel and Life. While some might think that Christian faith is just a blind leap, a closer look shows us that it requires deep rational thinking. Join us all month as Tim Keller preaches on genuine faith, which requires both a deep conviction of the heart and a sound understanding of the mind.
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Since the children have flesh and blood, he too shared in their humanity so that by his death he might destroy him who holds the power of death, that is the devil, and free those who all their lives were held in slavery by their fear of death. For this reason, he had to be made like his brethren in every way in order that he might become a faithful and merciful high priest. Because he himself suffered when he was tempted, he is able to help those who are being tempted. This is God's word. At Christmas time, it's very natural and normal for churches that believe in the historic Christian faith to stress the fact that Jesus Christ is God come in the flesh. The reason we tend to do that is because we live in a modern world in which the supernatural is still looked at very skeptical. Skeptically. People have a conceit nowadays that the time and space is all that there is. And so it's right and necessary at Christmas to say, look, Jesus Christ is God come in the flesh. But perhaps you could argue that the more important point to stress at Christmas is that Jesus Christ is God come in the flesh. Yes, Jesus is our Emmanuel. He's God with us. But maybe it's just as important to stress that he is God with us. That in Jesus Christ, the holy and transcendent God became really and fully and truly human. See what we read? He shared in our humanity. And I submit to you, the traditional moralistic religion has completely forgotten this whole idea. In fact, I submit to you that if you and I were really understanding the fact that Jesus Christ shares in our humanity, we'd live differently. The meaning of Christmas is that God got blood, that God got flesh and blood. What does that teach us? What does that teach us about God and about life? What does that teach us about God? It teaches us three things about Him. First of all, it teaches us that he has a concern for the physical. Now, I want to get a little theological on you here, but I want you to see the radical implications. God has a concern for the physical. Why is it that it says that God was very upset about death? Jesus came to share our humanity so that death could be destroyed. Now, why is God so upset about death? After all, if you and I believe in Jesus, the Bible says when you die, our souls go to God. So isn't that fine? Why not just leave it at that? But we see at Christmas that God is not only concerned with about the soul, he is concerned about that which is destroying our flesh and blood. This is what's so radical about Christmas. Christmas tells us something about God that no other religion will. Look at. Three major pictures of God in the Bible. The first picture we have is a creation in the very beginning. And in the beginning, you have God with his hands in the dirt. God with his hands in the dust. God shaping it and forming it and perfecting it and breathing the breath of heaven into the dust and getting us. Why? He wants to unite heaven and earth. He wants there to be an integrity between heaven and earth. He wants to be an integrity between the material and the spiritual. And the first time he does that, he gets us human beings in the image of God. This is so radical because when the Bible gave us a picture of God with his hands in the dust, you must remember that no other religion talked about such a thing. In fact, to this day, no other religion talks about such a thing. Because in the East, Eastern philosophy sees matter as unreal and illusion. And Western philosophy, the Greeks, taught that matter was less real, it was bad, it was temporary. And so the Greeks would say, if there is a supreme being, if there is a supreme being, that supreme being had nothing to do with matter. That rather there are layers and hierarchies of lesser spirit beings who created matter and deal with matter because matter is polluted, it's dirty. And salvation is getting away from the reality of matter, which is less real to the true reality of the spirit world. And the east, of course, said that salvation is to lose the illusion that there's a material world. But here is a God with his hands in the mud, his spirit moving across the face of it all. And let's look at a second picture. Incarnation. Creation. Incarnation. When God saw that his physical creation had been marred, he entered it. God becomes flesh and blood. God becomes someone who gets hungry and who tires and who hurts and perspires. Someone who becomes physical. And then look at the last picture we have in the Bible. Resurrection. Look at the last picture we have of Jesus before he leaves. He sits down with his folks. He sits down with his disciples. At first they're very frightened. And they say, you're a ghost. And he says, give me a fish. Give me something to eat. And he eats it. And he says, can a ghost do that? Do you know what he's saying? He is saying, the future. Redemption. That God has in mind for the universe. The future glory that he's got in mind for us is not one of disembodied consciousness, not one of ethereal, esoteric, disembodied consciousness. No new bodies, new heavens, new earth. In other words, God created matter and spirit and he's going to redeem matter and spirit. Put it another way, let me be as concrete as I can, because that's the whole point of this point, concrete. We will eat and drink in the kingdom of God. We will learn in the kingdom of God. We will love in the kingdom of God. Let me go even further. The Bible tells us we will hug and be hugged in the kingdom of God. Our flesh will be embraced. We'll be pressing flesh in the kingdom of God. We'll build, we'll sing in degrees in realms of power we can't understand right now. But our feet will not float over the streets. Our feet will march in the kingdom of God. Because God is concerned about the physical. He created both the physical and the unphysical, and he will redeem both. Now, what does that mean? It means, God, that if God gets his hands dirty, so should we Christians in a way that no other religion, no other religion gives us the resources of this. I'm not chortling about this. I'm not trying to be superior. I'm trying to show you what you've got. And sometimes the best way to do that is. By way of contrast, Christianity is a fighting religion. God would go to these extremities, the incarnation and the death of Jesus Christ, to deal with death and pain and disease and the marring of his creation. Christians are not to be passive about poverty. Christians are not supposed to be passive about pain, about sickness. Christians aren't supposed to be past about these things. Christianity is a fighting religion. We're the only religion that says the future is matter and spirit in integrity together. That's why William Temple, the Archbishop of Canterbury, at one point said that in this sense, sense, the sense we're talking about, there is no religion as materialistic as Christianity because therefore there's no other religion that can talk about the salvation of the soul and the need to work on the social systems of a city so that it provides food and safe streets and warm homes for people in the same sentence, because God's concerned about him. He has a concern for the physical. He gets his hands dirty. So should we. We've got a fighting religion. Not passive, not, oh, well, everybody's suffering. But the important thing is to pray. The important thing no he entered this world to destroy him who has the power of death, number one. Number two, he not only has a concern for the physical, but he has a knowledge of the sorrowful. You see, the passage says he shared in their humanity. Why? Number one, that he might destroy him who has the power of death. But look, number two, because he himself suffered when he was tempted. He is able to help those who are being tempted, that he might be a faithful and merciful high priest. You know what that means. I suggest to you that most of us do not have the resources we could have as Christians to face life in this world because we functionally deny the real and true and full humanity of Jesus Christ. The Bible tells us that he was completely physical. He was completely and really human, and therefore he suffered. I knew a guy years ago in my former church who was an X ray technician and he worked in a hospital, and he put people up on the table. And I went in to see him because he was in the hospital himself, because I think, if I remember correctly, he had a kidney stone. And when I spoke to him, he is in the hospital, he was in a lot of pain, and he'd just been put on the table by one of his X ray technician colleagues, and he'd just come back to his room. And I said, how's it going? And he said to me, when I get out of here, I'm going to have a radically different bedside manner. I said, why? He says, well, he says, I really never knew what it was like to be on the table myself. I will never be impatient with a client again. I will never treat them like a cipher. I will never treat them like a piece of cattle because I know what it's like. I will never unnecessarily be brusque with them because I've been on the table myself. Ah, I've been changed. I've been on the table. Therefore, I will never treat people on the table the same way. Jesus Christ, we're told, was really human. He suffered. Here's somebody. Here's someone who knows everything.
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Have you been betrayed this year? So is He. Have you been isolated this year? Lonely? So is He. Have you been broke this year? So is He. Have you faced death this year? So has He. He has faced pain and rejection and homelessness and misunderstanding and isolation and grief and loss. And we're told in the Bible, like in Hebrews chapter 5, verse 7, that when he was on earth. What does it say? Hebrews 5, verse 7. During his days on earth, he offered up prayers and petitions with loud cries and tears to the one who could save him from death. And he was heard for his reverent submission. Not a little tear in the eye. Loud cries, tears. God not only came as a human being, but he refused to come as a human being with nerves of steel. Somebody who was always crying, weeping over Jerusalem, weeping over his dead friend Lazarus, sweating blood over his own doom. What does this mean? It means this. If you have in your mind intellectually that Jesus is fully human. But functionally, you really think of him the way the Sunday School books used to picture him, right? Tan, always beautifully tan, glowing, sort of porcelain looking porcelain, you know, his white clothes glistening and always sort of hovering about six feet above the grass. He's been on the table. And he will never treat anybody else on the table in a way that's inappropriate to see. Now, if you really practice this, if you believe this, let me show you what would happen to you. First of all, you would go to him when your life starts to break apart. Over the years, I've been a pastor for almost 20 years. It'll be 20 years next August, I've been realizing. And over the years, one of the most normal things that I found is if. When I noticed somebody who was coming to church, it seems to have stopped coming to church. And if I. If I run into them and I see that they've started drifting away and I ask what's going on? So often the problem is problems, troubles, brokenness. Terrible things are happening to me. And it makes me feel far from God. I don't want to pray. I don't want to go. That's a fun. That's a denial of something. It's a denial of the humanity of Jesus Christ. What do you want in a counselor? First of all, you want somebody who knows what you're going through, right? You don't want somebody who doesn't know what you're going through. In fact, you know, even if you talk to somebody about your problems and they're not hostile or dismissive, but if they just sort of stare at you kind of clueless, it's still. It's an unbearable isolation that it causes. You want somebody who understands, but you also don't want somebody in the same spot that you're in, Right? You don't just want somebody where you are. You want somebody who's moved beyond it. Jesus Christ was on the table, but he's not there anymore. He's risen. He's at the right hand of God. He is the wonderful counselor. You gotta go to him. Well, somebody says, but when I go to God, I try to have prayers answered. And very often my prayers aren't answered. He understands that too. He has suffered in every way as you've suffered. He's been tempted in every way as you've been tempted. He knows what it's like to offer up a prayer and have it turned down. Father, if it's thy will, let this cup pass from me. Don't you see he'll turn. He's turned you down. You say, well, what I don't understand is why is he letting this happen to me? That's the reason why I'm not praying. That's the reason why I'm not coming to church. Why is he letting this happen to me? I don't know. But here's what I do know. For you to be mad at him because you're suffering is to deny the humanity of Jesus Christ. That X ray technician does not say, I no longer will put people on the table. Did he say that? He knows that as painful as it is for a person with a kidney stone to have to move around, it'll be a lot more painful if we don't do something about it. And therefore, what he's promised is, he says, I will never unnecessarily hurt somebody. I will be so gentle. I will be so careful because I've been on the table. There won't be a single needless jostle. There won't be a single needless pain. And all I know, and all we know is that if we're suffering, he's been on the table and there is nothing happening to us needlessly, arbitrarily. And if you deny that, you're denying the humanity of Christ. What you're really saying is you don't understand. He does. That's what Christianity means. That's what Christmas means. He Knows the sorrowful. Okay, lastly, Christmas means he's concerned about the physical. And then secondly, he understands the sorrowful. But lastly, he desires. And I guess since we're trying to keep these in mind, he desires the relational. He desires a relationship. The whole purpose of Christmas is to get near, to have us near him. You know, it says he took our humanity upon himself, that he could be a high priest. A priest is a mediator. A priest is someone who brings us to God. And I'll just make this rather brief, but this is the point. If God simply wanted us to submit to him, if he wanted us as subjects, that would have been easy. He wouldn't have needed the incarnation. A really good light show in the sky. Okay, special effects, thundering voice from the top of the mountain. I mean, that's. It worked in the Old Testament. People were very frightened. They said, okay, you know, if he wanted subjects, you wouldn't need Christmas. If he wanted subjects, you wouldn't need Christmas. He wants friends. He wants brothers and sisters. That's what the text says. He wants children. And so he became like us in every way. A priest's job is to get us into the presence of God and to get the presence of God into us. Now, you know, when Moses asked for it, and Moses said, I want Emmanuel. Remember in Exodus 33, I want God with me. I want his presence with me. I want Emmanuel. What did God say? My presence is dynamite, Moses. My presence would crush you. My presence is. I'm a consuming fire to you. I'm a towering inferno of purity and holiness. I would destroy you. And Moses understood that. But now look at when the Bible says he became a baby. There's nothing more accessible than a baby. When you get near a baby, you can't help but nuzzle it. You know, you can't help it. There's nothing more available than a baby. And for God to become a baby is to say, the unbearable beauty of God, the unassailable majesty of God, the consuming holiness of God is available if you believe in Jesus Christ. He came to die to destroy the barrier so that the presence of God that was completely destructive to Moses can actually come into your life. And therefore, you know, in Psalm 63, the Psalmist says, my soul faints, My body desires you. I thirst for you, as in a dry and weary land where there is no water. And what the psalmist is saying is, I don't need God as a hypothesis. He's not saying I need God because I can't understand the universe without a God. He is saying, I have such a primal need for connection with God. It is every bit as primal as my body's need for water. I need to feel his presence. I need to sense his love. I need to be in touch with him. Christmas is about that. Christmas has given us a human being, God, in the form of a human being, so we could relate to him. But God, Christmas has given us a human being who could die, but that barrier could go. And if at Christmas, if today you believe these things and you're living a moral life, but you don't have any sense of his love shed abroad on your heart when you pray, you're missing the meaning of Christmas. That fire now can come into your life and not destroy you, but purge you one of one of Kathy and my dirty little secrets is you know and parents know this. At the end of the Lion King, we cry. I mentioned this once before, but I'm letting everybody know my dirty secret. So it's not a secret. You know why? Because when the Lion King cries, purges the world with fire and renews it because it was broken and ascends on high, we think about the God who's going to come back and do that someday. But whenever you worship in Jesus name, whenever you come to God through Jesus, have you ever noticed sometimes I hope it's already happening today. Sometimes you suddenly say, what's wrong with me? Why have I been so afraid? Why have I been so stupid? Why have I been so discouraged? Why have I been so angry? And you see who he is, and you see who you are, and you see his promises and your heart's melted down and you walk out rejoicing. You know what that is? That's God ascending to the throne and purging your heart with his presence, cleansing it. He can do it now. You know why? Because that presence that was hostile to Moses is now pure light to us. Because Jesus Christ came, took flesh and blood, shed his blood and destroyed death. Christmas means we can serve him. Christmas means we can rely on him. Christmas means we can know him. Let's pray. Our Father, we ask that we would really sense what Christmas is instead of just getting a good feeling. It's about family. Instead of having a nostalgia fest, we pray that we'll see today that the full humanity of Jesus Christ is something that we're not taking seriously. And many of our problems are coming because we're not taking them seriously. Help us to get rid of our fear by beholding God come in the flesh. In Jesus name we pray. Amen.
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Thanks for joining us here on the Gospel and Life podcast. It's our hope that today's teaching challenges you to go deeper into God's word. We invite you to help others discover this podcast by rating and reviewing it. And to find more great gospel centered content by Tim Keller, visit gospelandlife.com Today's sermon was recorded in 1994. The sermons and talks you hear on the Gospel and Life Podcast were preached from 1989 to 2017 while Dr. Keller was senior pastor at Redeemer Presbyterian Church.
Podcast Summary: "God With Us: Through His Presence"
Podcast Information
Introduction
In the episode titled "God With Us: Through His Presence," Tim Keller delves deep into the profound mystery of the incarnation—how God became human in the person of Jesus Christ—and its transformative implications for both believers and the world. Released on April 30, 2025, this sermon explores the intersection of faith and rationality, emphasizing that genuine Christian belief is anchored in both heartfelt conviction and intellectual understanding.
1. The Nature of Christian Faith: Beyond a Blind Leap
Keller begins by addressing a common misconception that Christian faith is merely a blind leap of faith. He asserts that faith requires deep rational thinking and a solid understanding of both the heart and the mind. This theme sets the stage for a comprehensive exploration of the incarnation and its significance.
Notable Quote:
"While some might think that Christian faith is just a blind leap, a closer look shows us that it requires deep rational thinking." [00:03]
2. The Incarnation: God Sharing in Humanity
Central to Keller’s message is the doctrine of the incarnation—God becoming flesh and blood in the person of Jesus Christ. He emphasizes that Jesus shared in our humanity to address the very real problem of death and suffering. By becoming fully human, Jesus not only demonstrated God’s solidarity with humanity but also empowered Him to defeat death and offer salvation.
Key Points:
Notable Quote:
"In Jesus Christ, the holy and transcendent God became really and fully and truly human." [04:30]
3. God's Concern for the Physical World
Keller highlights the radical nature of the Christian belief that God cares deeply about the physical world. Unlike many Eastern and Western philosophies that devalue material existence, Christianity affirms that both matter and spirit are integral to God’s creation and redemption plan. This perspective underscores God’s intent to redeem not just the soul but the entire creation.
Key Points:
Notable Quote:
"God is concerned about the physical. He created both the physical and the unphysical, and he will redeem both." [08:15]
4. Christianity as a "Fighting" Religion
Keller describes Christianity as an active, fighting religion that seeks to address and alleviate physical suffering and social injustices. He contrasts this with religions that may focus solely on the spiritual or afterlife, emphasizing that Christianity uniquely calls believers to engage with and improve the tangible world.
Key Points:
Notable Quote:
"Christianity is a fighting religion. We're the only religion that says the future is matter and spirit in integrity together." [10:30]
5. The Humanity of Jesus: Understanding Suffering and Compassion
Keller shares personal anecdotes to illustrate how recognizing Jesus’s true humanity can transform interpersonal relationships and personal conduct. By acknowledging that Jesus genuinely experienced pain, rejection, and suffering, believers are inspired to exhibit genuine compassion and empathy in their interactions.
Key Points:
Notable Quote:
"The Bible tells us that he was completely physical. He suffered. Here's somebody... who knows everything." [11:43]
6. The Resurrection: Foundation of Hope and Understanding
The resurrection of Jesus is presented as the cornerstone of Christian hope and the key to comprehending the entirety of the Bible. Keller emphasizes that the resurrection not only signifies victory over death but also shapes the believer’s perspective on life’s challenges.
Key Points:
Notable Quote:
"We know there's no greater hope for you today than the resurrection of Jesus Christ." [11:00]
7. Relational Desire: God’s Invitation to Friendship
Keller articulates that Christmas signifies more than just a theological event; it represents God's desire for a personal and relational connection with humanity. By becoming human, God seeks friendship and fellowship, breaking down the barriers that previously kept Him distant.
Key Points:
Notable Quote:
"Christmas means that God could be a high priest... he wants friends. He wants brothers and sisters." [20:45]
8. Practical Implications: Living Out the Meaning of Christmas
Keller challenges believers to internalize the profound truths of the incarnation and resurrection in their daily lives. This involves moving beyond a superficial understanding of Christmas as a festive season to embracing its deeper significance in shaping one’s actions, relationships, and worldview.
Key Points:
Notable Quote:
"Christmas has given us a human being, God, in the form of a human being, so we could relate to him." [22:10]
Conclusion
In "God With Us: Through His Presence," Tim Keller masterfully unpacks the theological richness of the incarnation, emphasizing that Christianity uniquely affirms God’s profound concern for both the physical and spiritual realms. By sharing in human suffering and resurrecting life, Jesus embodies a faith that is both deeply compassionate and intellectually robust. Keller’s sermon challenges believers to embrace this comprehensive understanding of faith, encouraging an active and empathetic engagement with the world that mirrors the redemptive love of Christ.
Final Notable Quote:
"Christmas means we can serve him. Christmas means we can rely on him. Christmas means we can know him." [23:15]
Additional Resources
For those interested in delving deeper into the themes discussed in this episode, Tim Keller’s book, "Hope in Times of Fear," offers further insights into anchoring one’s life in the resurrection and understanding the true meaning of Easter.
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