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Wondery subscribers can listen to Tis the Grinch Holiday Podcast ad free. Join Wondery in the Wondery app or on Apple Podcasts. Wondery. Let me just sharpen up this candy cane to a perfect razor sharp point. Great. Now it's a candy camp. Who is it and what do you want from me?
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Hey, it's Devory Jacobs for the podcast.
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Oh, hey, ah, DeBrie, I'll buzz you up in just a moment, but while you're down there, can you do me a teeny tiny favor? If you say no, the entire interview is gonna be gotcha questions.
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Okay, sure.
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All right, great. If you look around down there, you'll see a bunch of Amazon packages addressed to the OG Mr. G. That's moi. So can you just grab those and carry them on up for me? It's all really important stuff. A cockroach attractant. I got a roadkill scented candle. The big boxes. Those are all the parts I need to build a treadmill desk. I'm getting in shape.
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I mean, exercise is good, but I.
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Don'T know how you expect me to.
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Carry all these things up the mountain.
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Ye, I don't really know either. I also ordered 64 desk paperweights. Total impulse buy. Shouldn't be too heavy.
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Copy that. I will. I will do my best.
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Okay, thanks. You'll be fine. Just remember, live with your back. Okay, See ya. Bye. From Wondry and Dr. Seuss, who both suggested we record scene somewhere else, it's Tis the Grinch Holiday Podcast, broadcasting from Mount Crumpet Studios, where we know all the bats by name. Whoa. Watch it, Greg. And as always, he's joined by his right hand girl and former nemesis, Cindy Lou who.
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Hello, cherished listeners.
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Plus, right over there, his water bowl hasn't been washed since the first Nintendo Switch came out. It's Max the dog. Now, here's your host. It's the Grinch. Hello, pod peeps, G heads, Grinchers, Grinchinistas, Grinchees. It's me, the Grinch, and I have to say, I love this job. You might be thinking, but, Mr. Grinch, it's Christmas. Aren't you supposed to be miserable? Yes, of course I'm miserable. But I kinda like being miserable. It's my equilibrium. Especially when my job just to bark into this microphone about all the things that make me miserable. I mean, do what you love, right? And the cashola will follow. So, yeah, I kind of feel a rant coming on. Hold onto your seats. Keep on your pants. The Grinch is going on one of his rants. Cindy you ever hear the story of the Collier brothers?
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Yes, the Collier Brothers. New York City's original hoarders. Back in the 1930s and 40s, they withdrew from society and lived among their accumulated junk.
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Hmm. 100% right. But it would have been more fun if you didn't know.
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Why are you bringing up those famous hoarders?
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Because that's what everyone becomes at Christmas time. Holiday hoarders. Christmas clutterers. They bring out the old Christmas junk, then they buy more Christmas junk. Then regardless of whether they have a seven bedroom mansion or a studio apartment, they fill their homes with all kinds of clickety clackety brickety brackety, tickety tackity Christmas clutter. The kind that makes me shudder. My rhymes are smooth as butter. Why am I rhyming again? How about the clutter on the floor? Clutter on the wall, Clutter by the chimney, Clutter on it all. A tree so thick with our damage, you swear it's gonna fall? Stop it. Stop. Cut it out. Sheesh. Cindy, can you check in with hovies about my anti rhyming meds, please?
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Oh, not really in the producer's job to script, so.
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Okay, fine. Max, could you scamper down to whovies and pick up a per script for a brother? You don't need my health card. It's on file. Anyway, back to my rant. I mean, completely reasonable grievance with Christmas time clutter. It's completely out of control. Do you think at the very first Christmas, someone in the manger, like, made a proclamation in honor of the newborn king? We must cover every inch of every available service with decorations. It's Christmas. Let's put up a wreath. And how about red and white flowers on every table? Maybe a huge red candle here, a styrofoam snowman there, a Rudolph stuffed animal on the couch. And ooh, I see some open shelf. Perfect seat for an elf. And let's add dancing Santas, nutcrackers and holly. And why not some more candles? Because it's Christmas, by golly. Ah, yuck. Max. Rhyming pills, Hoovy ass. Anticipate my needs. Never ever enough Christmas clutter. What's this? An open spot in a doorway where no decoration is? Well, let's hang mistletoe. A plant whose sole purpose is to make people uncomfortable when they're near it. And how about those wackos who install entire working Christmas villages in their homes? With a church and a town hall and train tracks and a Chipotle and an EV charging station and a hobby lobby with working Choo choos with steam coming out of them and little townspeople and snow covered mountains. What is happening? Then there's the ultimate clutter upperware. The centerpiece of junk, the Christmas tree. Hey, how about we make the inside the outside by having an actual pine tree take up most of our living room? Cause we love nature, but you never know that by the way they forget to water it. Cover every single pine needle with more clutter. Light and tantal and garland and ornaments. Ornaments, ornaments, ornaments, ornaments, ornaments, ornaments. By the way, anything can pass as a Christmas ornament. Now, they used to just be delicate shiny balls or icicles, but now it's like, merry Christmas. Here's an ornament. It's a miniature scale model of the palace at Versailles. Hang this on your tree. Just weird. Giant bulky things are being passed off as ornaments now. Got your little ornament from the other side of the pond. It's a stainless steel replica of a double decker bus. No, thank you. Why are you trying to torture my tree? Which is already slowly dying? Then when you're done cluttering up the inside of the house, they go for the outside. Yeah. Time to Clark Griswold the house until every inch of it, including the roof, has wreaths and lights and candy canes and a Santa and a sled and an inflatable reindeer. Do people all of a sudden come down with amnesia this time of year? Oh, I keep forgetting what season it is. I should probably place Christmas decorations every six inches so I never have to look in any direction without seeing Christmas. You're all a bunch of hoarding Christmas colliers and you're nuts. You been cringed?
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That was a pretty heated rant there, Mr. Grinch. I'm curious how you're going to bring it back around. I mean, this is a holiday podcast.
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Oh, stop. People love it when I go ballistic on Christmas. It's my brand, babe. And don't worry, Cindy. I'll rope the softies back in with some fantastic ideas for holiday gifts in the Grinch's first ever holiday gift guide.
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Of course you will.
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All of these gifts, I assure you, were personally curated by me and my impeccable taste. Our first gift is a nice one, because Christmas is a time of setting differences aside and sharing holiday cheer with those we may not be getting along with. So if you're so moved to let bygones be bygones with a mortal enemy this holiday season, might I suggest this gift from Elegant Offerings? They've really done it this year. I'm holding it in My hand. Cindy, you see that? Isn't it beautifully wrapped? Yes.
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That burgundy wrapping and what a beautiful white bow. Wait, is that satin?
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It's all satin. Yes. I'm unwrapping the bow, removing the satin, and then, ooh, a very nice mahogany box. And then you remove the lid. And inside the lovely velvet lined box, you guessed it, a beautiful pile of red and green reindeer poop. Now that's a Christmas surprise. It's Elegant Offering's own version of the Yuletide log. Hold for uproarious laughter. Now this could be an ornament. Isn't that great, Cindy?
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It's a very elegant offering.
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I'll be sure to leave one on your front steps. Oh, that reminds me, turn your ring camera off tonight.
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Please don't.
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Moving on. I should remind you all that I've kind of blown up a bit recently. You know, the pod being a massive hit and all. So I am happy to announce that I am launching my very own line of official Grinch licensed certified grinchified products. Just in time, I might add, for the holidays. Hey, watch that. Do I have my own line of wellness gummies? Like a Kardashian? Of course I do. And they are a wonderful stocking stuffer. They're called Grinchummies and they're orange and green and yes, they do smell and taste like salmon that's been left in a glove compartment. But that ripe aroma is how you know you're getting a whole week's supply of vitamin Z. Vitamin Z? Yep. That's short for Zippa Zappa Kappa Mantipantium. A very rare chemical compound that only exists here on Mount Crumpet that an astounding one out of every ten nutritionists recommends, I'm told. Moving on, this next one. Oh, I love this. All the baked celebs endorse various green powders that you put in smoothies that make you poo. So why not the Grinch? Right? I gotta get in on that. Get the gift of grinch greens. It's 3,000 calories. Yum. Has 1 gram of protein, over 600 grams of microplasm and tastes like sadness. Oh, and don't worry, it's not green because of vegetables. But your fitness minded friends don't have to know that. And yes, I am one step ahead of you people asking if I have my own fragrance. Of course I do. I partnered with Whoville's premier perfume company, Smell palace, to make the perfect scent for everyday wear. Woo. That is narsty. I love it. Listeners, do you smell that it's so rancid it can seep through your speakers. Max, play the commercial. A fragrance should evoke emotion. It should evoke nostalgia. It should evoke that feeling right after you threw up in your mouth a little bit this holiday season. Wow. Your special someone with J' Adore Garbage, a new fragrance by Green, I mean La Grange. Is it time to take the trash out? No, it's time to spray the trash on an odor so pungent you legally cannot wear it on a plane. For when you want to smell like the inside of a beached whale. J' Adore Garbage. With each inhale, lose a year of your life for the one you adore. Give the gift of Jador Garbage. Hey there, Grinch fans. If you and the family are enjoying the show, I have the perfect recommendation for you. After you've listened to every episode of Tis the Grinch Holiday Podcast. Obviously, it's a podcast called the Cinnamon Bear A Holiday Adventure. The magical Cinnamon Bear, played by the one and only Alan Cumming, helps little Jimmy and Judy on a quest to find their stolen tree topping star. Along the way, they'll encounter some bizarre characters, including Mr. Presto, the magician, voiced by John Goodman, and Santa Claus himself played by Ryan Reynolds. A little bit of humor mixed with a star studded cast. Did we mention Rachel Dratch too? And you've got a deliciously rich and rewarding holiday experience. Listen to the Cinnamon Bear A Holiday Adventure only on Audible. And Grinch listeners can get audible for only 99 cents a month for the first three months. For a limited time, save over 90% on the best selection of audiobooks plus podcasts like the Cinnamon Bear. Just visit the Audible website and look for the limited time offer banner Happy Holidays. You're a mean one, Mr. Grinch. You really are a heel. You're as cuddly as a cactus. You're as charming as an eel. Mr. Grinch, you're a bad banana with a greasy black peel. My guest tonight is a Canadian sensation, so she'll have no problem at all freezing her buns off up here on Mount Crumpet. She's a triple threat. She wrote, directed and starred in FX's reservation dogs. Stop it, Max. No barking. No, I said put the sleigh down. Jeez, you say dogs and suddenly he's auditioning for Westminster. Now she's starring in Amazon's brand new Christmas movie, oh, what fun. Which sounds to me like anything but. Please welcome Devery Jacobs. Hey, how you doing?
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Hey, Mr. Grinch. Thanks for having me.
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You know what? Make yourself at home. Mount Crumpet is a lot like Canada. It's cold, you're surrounded by wild animals, and when I put the antlers on Max, he kind of looks like a little moose. You feel like you're in Canada up here. Anything I can do to make it feel more homey?
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I mean, you got the temperature, right? That I'll say.
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Yeah, the temperature and the sparsely populated zone.
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Yeah.
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The other thing about Canada is that there's a lot of French speakers up there, so in case you're in Quebec, you got to go Bonjour High. Bonjour High.
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It's very true. I mean, I'm from Caughnawaga, Mohawk territory, and so I guess this would be traditional Grinch territory.
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Yes, this is the Grinch area, and I don't know think it's really incorporated. I don't really know what the surveyor from the city would call this.
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I guess it would be the traditional territory of the who's from Whoville Nation that we are working out of from today here on Mount Crumpet.
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I love the sound of that. As long as I can keep my keep out signs up, I'm happy with whatever we want to call it over here.
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I'm just glad that I made it past the keep out signs and you've invited me up here.
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Oh, yes. Well, I want to talk to you about Christmas because, well, I'm required to legally. Normally, the day after Christmas is my favorite day of the year because it means Christmas is over. But as a Canadian, a lot of people celebrate something called Boxing Day. How does that work?
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I mean, Boxing Day is really just like Black Friday. It's a big sale from all of the holidays, and people like to go shopping.
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Oh, I was thinking that it was like Boxing Day. Like shadow boxing, but, like real boxing. Like, I thought it was a day where Canadians came together to punch each other in the face a lot.
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I mean, you're more than welcome to spar if you wanted to make it really literal.
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Exactly. You're getting it. I mentioned earlier that you acted, wrote, and directed on Reservation Dogs. I like that show. That's like three jobs at once. I can barely direct Max not to eat Tencel. What was it really like pulling that off?
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It was so much fun, I think, being a part of a show that was so groundbreaking for indigenous folks. It was the very first of its kind where it was entirely directed, written, and starring indigenous folks. And we shot that for three seasons in Tulsa, Oklahoma, of all places. And, yeah, I mean, we got to go to the Emmys last year, and it was something that'll always be near and dear to my heart and is something I'm just so proud to have been a part of.
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Oh, my gosh. That's awesome. Variety ranked your performance on Reservation Dogs among the hundred greatest of the century. Brava. Meanwhile, I delivered a tour de force stealing Christmas. I alienated a whole town, emotionally scarred a child, and even survived a major cardiac incident. Not even a People's Choice nomination. What am I missing? Is it vulnerability? Is it pants?
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I think you gotta flip it around and you need to do a heartfelt drama. I think it would be haunting and devastating.
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Oh, I would love to devastate. That is my favorite verb. You're gonna direct, and then, you know. And then there's a big twist at the end where we find out that Ray finds he's the Grinch. It's me. It was me the whole time. He pulls off the mask.
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High concept. Understood.
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Now you are a special guest on RuPaul's Runway. I haven't been allowed near a Runway since that unfortunate Paris fashion show incident. Let's just say couture and cave stench don't mix. Anyhoo, can I test out a few drag names on you? You tell me if they'd make the cut or if I should sashay away. Cool.
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Okay, let's see. Give it to me.
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All right, Kandi Pain. Your teeth will hurt just watching her work.
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All right, good. I give it a seven.
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Seven. Okay. Sleigh Belle, you like slay? Like slay? It's a slay.
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Southern Belle, sashay away is what I would say.
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Oh, you don't like it? Let me give you the tagline. Oh.
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Oh.
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Sleigh Belle jingles when she walks. Jingles when she talks. Still no.
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Okay, that actually made it better.
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Oh, it did? Oh, we saved it from the trash heap. All right, here's my last one. Yuletide Carol. She's festive, she's fierce, and on Tuesdays, she plays mahjong with your mom. It's Carol.
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I'm not mad at that. I say contestant number one was the frontrunner.
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That one tickled me. I sometimes I just make myself giggle. Now, speaking of your career, you've built a career amplifying indigenous voices through your storytelling. This is something really cool. I mean, my little heart could barely take it. Why is it so important for you to tell these stories when the rest of the world just wants to hear that 10,000 millionth retelling of Rudolph?
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I mean, don't get Me. Wrong. I also love the 10 millionth reviewing of Rudolph. I do it every single year. But that said, I think it's so important to have all voices be heard from. And so many stories from my community haven't even begun to scratch the surface. And being the original peoples of Turtle island, which you wouldn't know of because we're up here in Whoville and on Mount Crumpet, I understand that it's pretty far away. But on Turtle island, we're the original storytellers. So I'm from a very large community of filmmakers.
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Yeah, I'm having a heart. Swell. Oh, help me out, Deborah. I just think about your paintball and your filmmakers want to tell stories. You just want to be heard. I just think that's great. Help me out.
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Are you okay?
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Pat my back.
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Okay.
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Pat my back. I think that did it.
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Did it? I don't know if it's a heart. Swell. Do you need a hug, bro?
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Look at the sign on the wall. No compassion zone.
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Oh, I'm sorry.
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The minute you start talking about that stuff and getting me all empathetic. All right. There's no room in my rib cage for my heart to swell anymore.
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Gotcha. No hugs.
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Well, now you've seen everything that's wrong with me. So we could be best friends from this point on. Listen, and oh, what fun your co star, Michelle Pifer Pfeiffer. I've never known how to say this. How do you say it?
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It's actually Michelle Pfeiffer.
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Well, what's going on with that P? It's front and center. It's capitalized. It's begging for me to say it.
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It's a silent P. All right.
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You know what fun Your co star, Michelle Pfeiffer plays Claire Closter, a mom keeping all the Christmas magic alive for her family until she suddenly goes missing. Don't look at me. I didn't do it. But who did? Come on, spoil it. Spoiler space. Come on, spoil it. Do it on my show. I need the clicks.
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I don't know if you could get the full spoil, but I play the character Donna, who is also a dj, known as DJ Sweatpants. And I am coming to Claire's home for the first time for Christmas, being with her daughter Taylor. I play her daughter Taylor's girlfriend, who finds out that she is not the only girlfriend who has come home for the holidays. That there's actually been 14 more girlfriends every year. And when Claire goes missing, we have to figure out what happened and we have to make sure that everybody's able to get back together for Christmas and for the holidays.
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14 girlfriends just sounds like a disaster waiting to happen.
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Listen, Don is somebody who tries to play it cool and act unbothered, but she has no chill. She is not into the 14 girlfriends.
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Well, who would be chill about a line of exes so long that it goes to the freaking pyramids?
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I don't know if I would recommend.
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Oh, thank you. Well, this has been a lot of fun. Thanks for coming up to the top of mount crumpet and bringing up all of those packages. I mean, I'm sorry, I forgot about how many 45 pound kettlebells I ordered this week.
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Yeah, that was intense. But thanks so much, Nyawakoa, for having me.
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Okay, thanks, devery. See ya. And don't forget. Oh, what fun is playing on prime video. We return now to our countdown to christmas featurette. It's Cindy versus the grinch in dueling holiday events, the whoville tree lighting ceremony and grinch of palooza. Grinch has officially hired his security outfit. A motley crew of zoo animals, wolves and bears. And is that a badger? But what about his big grinchapalooza entrance? Let's see what Mr. Green and mean is cooking up. Okay, party people, I gotta decide on my huge, big, giant grand entrance. Okay. It needs to be subtle yet explosive. Tasteful, yet disturbing. Inspiring, yet disheartening. Okay, Prepare to be wowed. Huge, big, giant grand entrance. Test number one, the XL slingshot. I'm catapulted on stage. The crowd goes wild. Let's try it out, Max. All right, just settling in here now. Go. Back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back. Keep going, keep going. Farther, farther. Okay, good. All right. Feels really tense now. Now when I say go, you just. Holy mother of Santa. We can cross that one off the list. Huge, big, giant grand entrance. Test number two, the human cannon. I have shimmied myself inside an old cannon. Max is going to light it. I'll fly through the crowd, landing right where the mosh pit will be. Double front flip. Land on my feet, everybody at the festival cheers. Max, light her up. Uh, I'm stuck. Uh oh, now it's hot. Oh, hot, hot, hot. It's like I'm sitting on a volcano. My butt is on fire. Max. Okay, I've spent a lot of money I do not have on all these could be entrances, but this is my final huge, big, giant grand entrance. T restaurant. I'm about 10,000ft in the air and we're circling over the grinchapalooza ground. I'm gonna parachute down onto the field. Stunning concertgoers making for the perfect grand entrance. Okay, here we go. Here we, here we. Here we go. You don't think we're a little too high, do you, Mr. No.
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10,000Ft is perfect jumping height, Mr. Fringe.
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Cindy, since when do you fly planes?
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I've had my pilot license for years, Mr. Fringe.
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I'm just putting some extra hours in.
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To help pay for the tree lighting ceremony.
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So I'm indirectly helping pay for your tree lighting ceremony. Uh huh.
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You've been doing it all day. Didn't you notice the cannon was from Cindy Lou Caboom's Cannon Rentals?
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You know I can't read. That cannon didn't work. It nearly cinched my tuckers off. So. So? So I want a refund. And I want my money back for this too.
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Sorry, Mr. Grinch. No refund.
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What was that? Sorry, can't hear you. See you later. Can't wait to get my money back. Okay. Wow, this is thrilling. We're soaring over the ground. It's gonna work. My face is getting all stretched out from the wind. Ah, this feels insane. My lips are inside out. Oh, oh, wait. A little to the left. A little right. No, no, no, no. I'm Ms. Jackson Wentz and I'm being pulled away from out crumpet and torched down Ted Whoville. I'm over the freeway now. Uh oh, I'm getting close to landing. I think I'm gonna hit that yellow cab. Phew. Good thing that sunroof was open. Driver, top of Mount Crumpet, please.
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No problem, Mr. Grinch.
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Well, you said the you to meant and I was. And now you're how. I wouldn't touch you with a 39 and a half foot pole. And they really make them that long. Go off kings. How about some organ? Yeah, that's nice. Okay, wrap it up. Follow Tis the Grinch Holiday Podcast on the Wondery app, Amazon Music, or wherever you get your podcasts. You can listen to Tis the Grinch Holiday Podcast ad free by joining Wondery plus in the app, Apple Podcasts, or Spotify. Before you go, tell us about yourself by completing a short survey@wondery.com survey. If you have a tip about a story you think we should investigate, please write to us@wondery.com tips.
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Tis the Grinch Holiday Podcast is a production of Wondery and Dr. Seuss Enterprises, starring James Austin Johnson as the Grinch. With Anjuli Kunnapaneni as Cindy Lou who And Anthony Atamanick as the announcer. This episode was written by our lead writer, Dan Cronin and Joe Redlingschafer. Our sound designer is Jamie Cooper. Music supervision by Scott Velasquez. For Frison Sync. Senior producers are Adam Azeroff, Jennifer Klein Walker and Brian Taylor White. Our associate producer is Kim Baekema. Sarah Mathis is our managing producer and Callum Plews is our senior managing producer. Carlos Hernandez is our audio engineer and Adrian Tapia is our studio manager. Executive produced by Susan Brandt for Dr. Seuss Enterprises. Executive producers are Andrew Goldstein and Marsha Louie for Wondering.
Episode 5: Oh. What. Fun! with Devery Jacobs
Date: December 3, 2025
Guests: Devery Jacobs (actor, writer, director known for "Reservation Dogs" and "Oh, What Fun!")
Host: The Grinch (James Austin Johnson)
Sidekick: Cindy Lou Who (Anjuli Kunnapaneni)
In this festive, irreverent installment, the Grinch returns to Mt. Crumpet Studios with trademark snark. With his plan for "Grinch-a-palooza" in full swing, he vents about the excesses of Christmas, debuts a tongue-in-cheek gift guide, and welcomes acclaimed Canadian actor, writer, and director Devery Jacobs—star of Amazon’s new holiday movie “Oh, What Fun!” The episode brims with satirical grousing, sharply witty banter, and moments of genuine warmth, balancing gleeful holiday mockery with celebration of diverse storytelling.
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Grinch preps for his grand “Grinch-a-palooza” entrance with increasingly disastrous schemes:
Cindy Lou Who reveals she’s using Grinch’s money to help fund Whoville’s rival tree lighting, poking at his oblivion and competitive nature.
The episode is packed with sharp, offbeat humor, pop culture satire, and slyly warm moments, thanks to the Grinch’s dry wit and Devery’s charm. The banter is rapid-fire and filled with in-character quips, meta-references, and satirical commentary on holiday culture.
This episode of ‘Tis The Grinch Holiday Podcast expertly blends Christmas mockery with genuine appreciation for storytelling and holiday tradition. The Grinch’s signature grumpiness shines as he lampoons holiday excess, presents absurd gift ideas, and engineers epic entrance fails. Spotlight guest Devery Jacobs brings earnestness and insight about creative empowerment and Indigenous filmmaking, gamely trading jokes and cultural notes with the Grinch. The episode both pokes fun at and honors the spirit of the season—reminding listeners there’s room for both merry mischief and meaningful narratives.