The $20 Million Instagram Scammer for Boys! | Too Many Tabs 3.07

Summary

Podcast Summary: "The $20 Million Instagram Scammer for Boys!" | Too Many Tabs 3.07

Podcast Information:

• Title: Too Many Tabs with Pearlmania500
• Hosts: Pearlmania500 (a husband and wife duo)
• Description: The podcast explores the multitude of online research "tabs" the hosts open throughout the week, sharing their findings and journeys. It's designed for a variety of listeners, from those passing time at work to couples on long road trips.
• Episode: The $20 Million Instagram Scammer for Boys! | Too Many Tabs 3.07
• Release Date: February 2, 2025

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Introduction

In episode 3.07 of "Too Many Tabs with Pearlmania500," Pearlmania500 delves deep into the world of multi-level marketing (MLM) scams, focusing specifically on a case involving a notorious figure known as Jeremiah the Bull Evans. The hosts aim to educate listeners about the intricacies of MLMs, how they operate, and the red flags that signal fraudulent schemes.

Understanding MLMs, Pyramid, and Ponzi Schemes

The podcast begins with a foundational discussion distinguishing between MLMs, pyramid schemes, and Ponzi schemes.

• Alex Perlman clarifies the confusion surrounding MLM terminology:

  "A pyramid scheme is a business model which, rather than earning money by sale of legitimate products to a consumer, they mainly earn money by recruiting new members with the promise of payments or services. As the number of members multiply, recruiting quickly becomes increasingly difficult until it's impossible. Therefore, most of the newer recruits do not make profit as such. Pyramid schemes are unsustainable." (10:29)

Pearlmania500 emphasizes that while MLMs may present themselves as legitimate businesses, many operate on unsustainable models that primarily benefit those at the top.

Case Study: Jeremiah the Bull Evans' $20 Million Instagram Scam

The core of the episode revolves around Jeremiah the Bull Evans, an Instagram influencer who orchestrated a massive MLM scam, defrauding over 500 investors.

Social Media Persona and Marketing Tactics

Jeremiah Evans crafted a charismatic online persona, positioning himself as an "Alpha" entrepreneur offering passive income opportunities through investments in automated dropshipping E-commerce stores.

• Mrs. P describes Evans' Instagram strategy:

  "He regularly solicits engagement from his Instagram following by touting his success and encouraging his followers to invest with Alpha." (30:06)

Evans' posts often showcase a lavish lifestyle, complete with luxury cars and high-end accessories, making his offers seem lucrative and trustworthy.

DOJ Press Release Analysis

Delving into legal documents, the hosts examine a Department of Justice (DOJ) press release revealing Evans' fraudulent activities.

• Alex Perlman reads from the warrant:

  "Alpha Influence, LLC is a Utah limited liability company... Jeremiah Joseph Evans... was charged by felony information on January 21, 2025." (43:52)

Evans pled guilty to securities fraud and money laundering, having deceitfully sold investment contracts under the guise of legitimate business operations.

Operation Mechanism: How the Scam Worked

Investment in E-commerce Stores

Evans promised investors passive income by funding automated dropshipping stores managed by his company, Alpha Influence LLC. Investors were required to provide an initial investment of approximately $40,000, with additional lines of credit (ranging from $15,000 to $50,000) for working capital.

• Mrs. P explains the setup:

  "You would pick products to sell on platforms like Amazon, and Alpha would manage all operations, promising consistent monthly returns of 7-10%." (47:00)

However, the reality was starkly different. The majority of the investment funds were funneled directly to Evans and his affiliates rather than being invested in actual E-commerce operations.

Affiliate Structure and Multi-Level Recruitment

Evans employed a multi-level recruitment strategy, where affiliates were incentivized to recruit more investors, creating multiple layers of participants.

• Alex Perlman outlines the funnel:

  "These affiliates were paid substantial commissions for each new investment they secured, perpetuating the cycle until it became unsustainable." (48:38)

This structure ensured that only those at the top profited, while the majority of investors received little to no returns.

Misuse of Funds and Personal Lifestyle

The DOJ documents revealed that Evans and his associates diverted funds to support a lavish lifestyle, including luxury vehicles and extravagant expenditures.

• Mrs. P highlights the misuse:

  "Approximately 25% of the initial investment funds were used by Jeremiah and Mackenzie to fund a lavish lifestyle, including luxury goods valued at approximately $70,000." (79:26)

Additionally, investments were made in other fraudulent ventures, compounding the deceit and exploitation of investors.

Impact on Victims

The scam had a profound financial impact on over 500 victims, with individual losses averaging around $40,000. Many investors believed they were securing a steady passive income, only to find their investments misappropriated.

• Alex Perlman sums up the effect:

  "These individuals were left with significant financial losses, thinking they were part of a legitimate business opportunity." (63:08)

Conclusion and Lessons Learned

The episode concludes with reflections on the importance of vigilance and skepticism when approached with investment opportunities, especially those propagated through social media influencers.

• Mrs. P advises listeners:

  "If anyone ever says that there's little to no risk, walk away. Always do your due diligence before investing." (73:11)

Pearlmania500 underscores the need to protect oneself from such schemes by understanding the mechanics of MLMs and recognizing the warning signs of fraud.

Notable Quotes

• Alex Perlman (10:29):

  "Pyramid schemes are unsustainable."

• Mrs. P (30:06):

  "He regularly solicits engagement from his Instagram following by touting his success and encouraging his followers to invest with Alpha."

• Alex Perlman (43:52):

  "Alpha Influence, LLC is a Utah limited liability company... Jeremiah Joseph Evans... was charged by felony information on January 21, 2025."

• Alex Perlman (48:38):

  "These affiliates were paid substantial commissions for each new investment they secured, perpetuating the cycle until it became unsustainable."

• Mrs. P (73:11):

  "If anyone ever says that there's little to no risk, walk away. Always do your due diligence before investing."

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This episode serves as a cautionary tale about the deceptive nature of certain MLMs and the importance of thorough research and skepticism when confronted with too-good-to-be-true investment opportunities.

Transcript

[Alex Perlman]

This is a podcast about MLMs. That's right. Men loving men.

[Mrs. P]

No, no, no. This is about, like, pyramid scheme MLMs. Like Ponzi schemes.

[Alex Perlman]

Oh, like multi level marketing.

[Mrs. P]

Yes, that's what this episode's about.

[Alex Perlman]

Oh, okay. Because when you say MLM on the Internet.

[Mrs. P]

Yeah, yeah.

[Alex Perlman]

That means something wildly different. Okay, well, once you start getting into, like the AO3 of it all, I.

[Mrs. P]

Don'T know what that is.

[Alex Perlman]

Okay. Like yowie.

[Mrs. P]

I don't know what that is.

[Alex Perlman]

Okay, we. Maybe we'll do a different episode about that. But today we are here on Too Many Tabs, a podcast where a husband and wife duo sit across from each other at a desk. Sometimes one of them does research on a topic, usually the wife, and then the other one reacts, usually the husband.

[Mrs. P]

Yeah, he's good at reacting. And that's what they are, reactionary.

[Alex Perlman]

I'm not a reactionary. I just have reactions to things.

[Mrs. P]

Yeah.

[Alex Perlman]

And people enjoy to listen to them while they also learn alongside learn stuff. You know What? With that, Mrs. P. I think it's time for us to start the show.

[Mrs. P]

Let's go.

[Alex Perlman]

Too many frauds and too many scammers that we wish weren't real. Too many cons and too many spammers. And we're starting to feel like we've got too many tabs open. It's too many tabs. Remember to smile.

[Mrs. P]

I like your T shirt. I just looked into the camera and saw your T shirt looks good.

[Alex Perlman]

Thank you. Thank you to all of our listeners. Thank you guys so much for coming back for another week.

[Mrs. P]

So listening to our Audio Forward podcast.

[Alex Perlman]

Yes, it's.

[Mrs. P]

It is also on YouTube.

[Alex Perlman]

It is. And I want to go ahead and start off by talking about the audio for a minute because I have two announcements that I want to just to touch base on with our listeners because I read the comments. Yeah, I know I often say that I shouldn't, but I do. I get deep into them. I read them, I write them down, I think about them for days on end. First thing, for our Spotify listeners out there, we hear you.

[Mrs. P]

Yes.

[Alex Perlman]

We see you.

[Mrs. P]

We hear that you can't hear us sometimes.

[Alex Perlman]

Yes, it's been. It's actually been an issue. And I want to let you know that that is an issue specifically with Spotify. And this is a podcast wide issue. I've looked into it. We haven't changed anything about how we recorded the show throughout the entire history of it. Spot Spotify itself, though, changed something pretty recently. They added in a thing called audio normalization. One of the things that happens is if you're listening to music like a three minute song and then you listen to a podcast, it's trying to balance your listening experience of the song and the podcast equally. Now you're currently listening to a podcast where a man is quite loud often.

[Mrs. P]

Yeah, that does happen a lot.

[Alex Perlman]

Maybe we laugh about something sometimes. Maybe we tickle each other a little bit.

[Mrs. P]

This is not a tickling podcast.

[Alex Perlman]

Okay. That is called the dollar. But, but what it does is it takes that peak and it, it says that is the maximum and then it shrinks all the lower areas. So when you have somebody who's very loud like myself and somebody who's a little bit quieter like Mrs. And I'm working on that regularly as I'm trying to be louder. Yeah. And I'm, and I'm turning up her mic as much as possible and she starts getting mad at me about it. But that's a Spotify issue. So one thing you can do is you can turn off audio normalization and close out the app and reopen it. That is one option for you. Another option is to use any other podcasting service. And the final option would be to join us on Pearlmania500.net and join the Patreon and then listen directly through the Patreon. Now. Okay, that is not our fault.

[Mrs. P]

Yeah, the next one. The next one is your fault.

[Alex Perlman]

Next one is kind of my fault. I read the comments on YouTube from the last episode where we talked about the death and resurrection of Tick Tock etc. I tried, I did a little experiment. Well, I threw some video game footage.

[Mrs. P]

Governmental of you to do an experiment.

[Alex Perlman]

On the people without their consent. Yeah, I did. It's like, it's I, I, Mark Zuckerberg, I Facebooked it. I did an experiment on y'all. And you didn't like it.

[Mrs. P]

Nope.

[Alex Perlman]

Some of you did, but a lot of you didn't. I understand that one of my views with the YouTube side of things is, as we say, a lot. This is an audio forward podcast where to me, if I'm watching something on YouTube myself, I would like there to be a little bit more of a visual.

[Mrs. P]

He put a video game on the thing like, like they do with Subway.

[Alex Perlman]

Yeah, subway surfers on TikTok or YouTube shorts or one of those.

[Mrs. P]

Exactly.

[Alex Perlman]

And so it was me playing Balatro and it was me walking in Minecraft and people didn't like it and they're like, I am not a Gen Z. And I looked at the analytics and you're not most of you are not Gen Z.

[Mrs. P]

No.

[Alex Perlman]

And so he won't do it again. I won't do it again.

[Mrs. P]

Or if he does, it'll be smaller and he will be bigger.

[Alex Perlman]

I will figure it out. Yeah, we'll play around with it.

[Mrs. P]

But we're just looking for excuses to play Blotro. I just literally is like, but what if I play Blotro for the podcast? I'm like, I don't think that's gonna work. But, you know, maybe some people like it. But I think he was just looking for a reason to play video games instead of, you know, helping around the house.

[Alex Perlman]

Yeah.

[Mrs. P]

Caught. Caught.

[Alex Perlman]

And so to everyone who commented on YouTube and then or liked the comment that said they didn't like it.

[Mrs. P]

Yeah, we hear you.

[Alex Perlman]

Way to make me. Way to make me do more chores.

[Mrs. P]

But don't ever stop commenting because remember the power of the comments because we got the bird video. Yeah, you guys got in the comments and you said, we want bird video. And what do we got? We got a great bird video.

[Alex Perlman]

And now also there's now the Elon video. Elon?

[Mrs. P]

Yep.

[Alex Perlman]

It's 13 minutes of me calling Elon Musk a Nazi. Well, it's up there.

[Mrs. P]

Yeah.

[Alex Perlman]

And, and, yeah, and so. And we'll, and we'll, we'll. We'll talk more about it in the future.

[Mrs. P]

But a lot to get into.

[Alex Perlman]

There's a lot to get into.

[Mrs. P]

I got a big episode today.

[Alex Perlman]

I know you do. We are about to learn a lot about multi level marketing schemes. We're about to learn a lot about men. Yeah, we're about to learn a lot.

[Mrs. P]

Usually not the same. Usually when we're. We're talking about MLMs, we're talking about the girly pops.

[Alex Perlman]

Yeah, no, this is today, baby. This is an ML.

[Mrs. P]

I went down a weird rabbit hole.

[Alex Perlman]

I know, I know. You went upstairs. You're like, I have an idea. And when I came in carrying our child, I was like, where have you been? It's been four hours.

[Mrs. P]

You're like, oh, you'll never believe what I found.

[Alex Perlman]

You're like, so with that, without further ado, hold onto your butts. This is a new episode of Too Many Tabs. Geico's motorcycle expertise gives me the coverage I need. Like 24. 7 claims I'm on cloud nine.

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[Mrs. P]

Okay, Ready?

[Alex Perlman]

I. I don't think I am.

[Mrs. P]

You're absolutely not. Because I am pumped. I had a big coffee and I put cream and sugar in it today. Living like the bourgeoisie today.

[Alex Perlman]

You put cream and sugar in the coffee?

[Mrs. P]

Yeah. I was like, why not?

[Alex Perlman]

I know. It smelled good. All right, so.

[Mrs. P]

So listen.

[Alex Perlman]

Yes.

[Mrs. P]

Here's what happened.

[Alex Perlman]

Okay.

[Mrs. P]

I. I wanted to go back to the classiques.

[Alex Perlman]

Yeah.

[Mrs. P]

Right. So when we first started this podcast, we talked a lot about pyramid schemes. We did MLMs, etc, and I was like, jonesing for that. The nostalgia of some of our older episodes where we looked at that. And the thing is, there's a crisis happening in the MLMS right now.

[Alex Perlman]

Yeah. Why?

[Mrs. P]

Because they're all starting to break down. And I don't want to get into it too much because this could be future episode stuff.

[Alex Perlman]

Okay.

[Mrs. P]

But a lot of the MLMs are starting to break away from the model to go towards affiliate marketing. Right. And everyone's freaking out.

[Alex Perlman]

Right?

[Mrs. P]

Right.

[Alex Perlman]

Okay.

[Mrs. P]

So I was reading about how there's a certain MLM that's really starting to change stuff and people are freaking out. And it was like, it's called Scentsy, and maybe we'll do an episode about Scentsy.

[Alex Perlman]

Okay.

[Mrs. P]

Okay. Scentsy is candle wax. Right. With no wick. And you heat up the scented wax in a special little bowl, and it. And it makes the house smell just like a candle would, but you're just selling the wax without the wicked.

[Alex Perlman]

Okay.

[Mrs. P]

And they have really nice holders and they got all these different scents.

[Alex Perlman]

Wait, I think I've seen these before. This is like the type of thing when you go to, like, one of those, like, Woo Woo shops. They have those. And it's an MLM.

[Mrs. P]

It's an MLM called Sensi.

[Alex Perlman]

Okay. And then not Sense8.

[Mrs. P]

Nope. That's a great TV show.

[Alex Perlman]

Great TV show. Yeah. We really. We never finished.

[Mrs. P]

I know. Well, yes, we did.

[Alex Perlman]

No, we came out for another season. We never went back to finish Sense8.

[Mrs. P]

Oh, is it on Netflix?

[Alex Perlman]

Yeah. We'll never know.

[Mrs. P]

We'll never know.

[Alex Perlman]

Yeah.

[Mrs. P]

And so all there's. They're changing rules in Scentsy, and I was reading all about it because I'm like, oh, my gosh, the gals are in a panic.

[Alex Perlman]

Yeah.

[Mrs. P]

And there's a weird crossover because the Scentsy gals are also a lot of Disney adults because Scentsy makes a lot of Disney stuff. And so I was deep in the Internet.

[Alex Perlman]

Right, gotcha. And can I throw a quick aside.

[Mrs. P]

Yes.

[Alex Perlman]

Just to our listeners out there, to everybody who's new to the podcast.

[Mrs. P]

Yeah.

[Alex Perlman]

We have no hatred of Disney adults. No, like what you like, love.

[Mrs. P]

Oh, I'm not yucking anybody's yum you ever.

[Alex Perlman]

And, like, that's the thing is if you make it your whole thing. Yeah. I'm not going to hang out with you. But that's about it. That's about it.

[Mrs. P]

I wouldn't go to. Maybe I would go to Disney with you. They do that thing where they dress up as a character but, like, subtly.

[Alex Perlman]

Oh, yeah, yeah. No, I know all about.

[Mrs. P]

That's very funny.

[Alex Perlman]

That is very.

[Mrs. P]

It's like cosplay light. I mean, also, you're breaking rules. I'm in.

[Alex Perlman]

Yeah, but not really break. They're skirting rules.

[Mrs. P]

Yeah, they're breaking the rules.

[Alex Perlman]

No, no, they're skirting rules with their skirts.

[Mrs. P]

So, anyway, I was reading about all this Scentsy stuff and I found a post about a different MLM situation. And I was like, wait, the Department of Justice is involved? Let me pull up some records. Because you know your girl likes to get on the DOJ website.

[Alex Perlman]

I know. You do. Well, while it exists.

[Mrs. P]

Well, it exists.

[Alex Perlman]

You know what I mean?

[Mrs. P]

I was like, look at me.

[Alex Perlman]

Yeah, yeah.

[Mrs. P]

Freedom of information act. Popping off.

[Alex Perlman]

Yeah.

[Mrs. P]

So real quick.

[Alex Perlman]

While they still listen to them.

[Mrs. P]

So I found something. But real quick, I did want to go over with everybody what an MLM is. A pyramid scheme.

[Alex Perlman]

Okay.

[Mrs. P]

So I went and I got the dictionary definition right. A pyramid scheme is a business model which, rather than earning money by sale of legitimate products to a consumer, they mainly earn money by recruiting new members with the promise of payments or services. As the number of members multiply, recruiting quickly becomes increasingly difficult until it's impossible. Therefore, most of the newer recruits do not make profit as such. Pyramid schemes are unsustainable. Okay.

[Alex Perlman]

100%.

[Mrs. P]

So we're. We're saying we're selling wax, but we're actually just trying to get more people into our downline.

[Alex Perlman]

Yeah.

[Mrs. P]

Because we're making money off the people below us, not off of selling the wax.

[Alex Perlman]

So, for instance, if I am running a pyramid scheme, which I'm not saying I am, but if I was, I would go and Find two of my friends.

[Mrs. P]

Yeah.

[Alex Perlman]

And I would say, hey, guys, you can make a lot of money if you sell pink postcards.

[Mrs. P]

Yeah.

[Alex Perlman]

Right.

[Mrs. P]

Yep.

[Alex Perlman]

And. But. But for you to sell these pink postcards, you need to buy all of my pink postcards.

[Mrs. P]

That way you have all of them at your house to sell them.

[Alex Perlman]

Yeah. And that way you'll have stock. And. Because these are gonna sell fast.

[Mrs. P]

Fast.

[Alex Perlman]

And so then both my friends buy them, and then they realize, oh, I need to. How. The best way for them to sell pink postcards is to convince somebody else that they're going to make a lot of money selling.

[Mrs. P]

So they get two people, and then.

[Alex Perlman]

It just keeps spreading and spreading until eventually everyone has pink postcards and they're worth nothing.

[Mrs. P]

And nobody needs to buy them because everybody's already got them.

[Alex Perlman]

There you go.

[Mrs. P]

Okay, now, Ponzi scheme. Slightly different.

[Alex Perlman]

Okay.

[Mrs. P]

Not too different.

[Alex Perlman]

Slightly different, because we did it. We did an episode of Charles Ponzi. I was going to shout it out.

[Mrs. P]

I did an entire episode all about Charles Ponzi. It might be one of our better episodes of all time. I really liked it. I had a good time.

[Alex Perlman]

It was a really, really good episode. And. And it has a very good thumbnail on YouTube.

[Mrs. P]

Yeah, he's really into making the thumbnails, y'all. So a Ponzi scheme.

[Alex Perlman]

No, because a lot goes into it.

[Mrs. P]

Okay.

[Alex Perlman]

There's a lot of thought process that goes into a YouTube thumbnail. All right, I know, I know, and I know. Listen to our listeners out there who listen on the audio. We love you. You're the best. I love you so much. The YouTube people, they need a lot to click on it.

[Mrs. P]

Yeah.

[Alex Perlman]

There's a debate. Do they want to click on my face? Do I just throw up something else and maybe get them interested and trick them into it? Half of YouTube is just tricking people into clicking on stuff.

[Mrs. P]

I don't know why you don't just screenshot Mr. Beast pictures and then just put your own face on top.

[Alex Perlman]

No, because then you get. Then you're going to get dumb kids. That's the thing, is a lot of those people who.

[Mrs. P]

And then you're going to have to put the video games.

[Alex Perlman]

And then I have to put the video games in it, and then I won't. We can listen. We can't do that.

[Mrs. P]

So Ponzi scheme, okay, is a form of fraud that lures investors and pays profits to earlier investors with funds from the recent investors.

[Alex Perlman]

Got it. Okay. So the. Okay, so the difference is, in a pyramid scheme, you're selling the stock that no one else can buy. You're selling the inventory, inventory to the next line of suckers.

[Mrs. P]

Yeah.

[Alex Perlman]

In a Ponzi scheme, you're getting investment that you're using to pay off the previous investors.

[Mrs. P]

Exactly.

[Alex Perlman]

Got it. Do we all. Everybody, we all understand.

[Mrs. P]

We got it.

[Alex Perlman]

Okay. If you understand that, give us five stars on Apple podcasts, five stars on Spotify.

[Mrs. P]

You're gonna love this. Call to action.

[Alex Perlman]

Listen, y'all. We have.

[Mrs. P]

He's very feisty.

[Alex Perlman]

I'm. I drank two Red Bulls.

[Mrs. P]

You had two Red Bulls? I thought you only had one.

[Alex Perlman]

I had two Red Bulls.

[Mrs. P]

What are you doing?

[Alex Perlman]

I'm doing a podcast, okay. About men loving men.

[Mrs. P]

That note. That's not what this is.

[Alex Perlman]

Mlm. Mlm.

[Mrs. P]

Well, okay, so here's what happened.

[Alex Perlman]

Okay.

[Mrs. P]

I was looking up the sensi. And then I found this DOJ stuff and I started looking into this person who the government's pressing charges against. And I said, who is this person?

[Alex Perlman]

Okay.

[Mrs. P]

And I put who is this person? Into Google and the YouTube video popped up.

[Alex Perlman]

Okay.

[Mrs. P]

And I have sent you the link. I want you to open it and I want you to live react to this YouTube video that answers the question, who is Jeremiah the Bull Evans?

[Alex Perlman]

Okay. All right. So here's how I'm going to do this.

[Mrs. P]

All right?

[Alex Perlman]

I now have the video up. It's on split screen. Again. This is an audio forward podcast.

[Mrs. P]

So he's going to explain it because we understand you're listening.

[Alex Perlman]

Yeah. And so I'm going to describe this to y'all and I'm just letting you know. Right. Who is Jeremiah the Bull Evans? The opening shot. The opening still.

[Mrs. P]

Yeah.

[Alex Perlman]

Is a man's hand on what I'm assuming is a very expensive steering wheel for a sports car.

[Mrs. P]

Yeah. Is it like a Ferrari? I don't know expensive cars.

[Alex Perlman]

Yeah. I don't know expensive cars off the top of my head either, but like.

[Mrs. P]

A Bugatti or something.

[Alex Perlman]

Yeah, whatever. Who knows? I've never been.

[Mrs. P]

I got a Nissan from 2012.

[Alex Perlman]

You're welcome.

[Mrs. P]

Have a. What's it.

[Alex Perlman]

It's from 2015. Okay. And yeah, power windows would have been more. That's why I didn't pay for them.

[Mrs. P]

No, I was thinking the rear view mirror doesn't have.

[Alex Perlman]

And also the passenger side doesn't have an armrest.

[Mrs. P]

Yeah, it's got. Okay, so maybe I don't know what a Bugatti looks like. Okay.

[Alex Perlman]

All right. Ready? Ready. I'm going to hit play.

[Mrs. P]

Okay.

[Alex Perlman]

You guys, we're just getting Started. I've got something that I believe in. I want to share it with you. Okay. I have to pause already.

[Mrs. P]

Pause immediately.

[Alex Perlman]

Just so you guys know, for those of you listening at home.

[Mrs. P]

Yeah.

[Alex Perlman]

Everything that happened was just a series of what I can only describe as the most 2022 boy images you've ever in your entire life.

[Mrs. P]

Big, big watch camera panning up his arm to show his cool bull tattoo.

[Alex Perlman]

Yeah. And his. His sleeve bull tattoo.

[Mrs. P]

His Nike high tops.

[Alex Perlman]

Yep. A black T shirt. He's wearing black T shirt and skinny jeans. Yeah. Also, it has. It's very backlit with. Most people would in the future use gamer lights, but this is, again, that very 2022 Alpha, bro, look at me swag type of stuff.

[Mrs. P]

Yeah.

[Alex Perlman]

And then now there was a curtain that is rising. And on the curtain, there is a. An image. A picture of a bull.

[Mrs. P]

Yep.

[Alex Perlman]

And then I believe. Is that the lambda symbol?

[Mrs. P]

I. It's something.

[Alex Perlman]

I think this is supposed to be, like, Spartan. This is supposed to be, like one of those spartan, but it's in the.

[Mrs. P]

Shape of an A for alpha.

[Alex Perlman]

Yeah. I think that is. Is it supposed to be alpha? Is that the Greek letter for alpha? I need to look it up. Oh, no.

[Mrs. P]

Oh, no.

[Alex Perlman]

He's Greek letter.

[Mrs. P]

So, yeah, there's like. It's not laser lights, but it's. There's a lot of smoke. I'm saying.

[Alex Perlman]

No, he's a idiot. That's not an alpha. That's a lambda.

[Mrs. P]

Okay.

[Alex Perlman]

That's a lambda because it's It. And then it has, like, Greek. I think it's supposed to be like a Greek shield.

[Mrs. P]

Yeah.

[Alex Perlman]

He's trying to do 300.

[Mrs. P]

Yeah, exactly.

[Alex Perlman]

Okay. All right, let's keep going.

[Mrs. P]

Okay. Garage door opening. Fancy sports.

[Alex Perlman]

It's a. It's a fancy sports car. That's all you need to know. It's fancy sports car.

[Mrs. P]

Which Smoke machine. Smoke machine.

[Alex Perlman]

Okay. Jeremiah. He stood out to me really quickly from. From my perspective. Jeremiah is three words. It would say passionate. Okay. Okay, hold on. All right.

[Mrs. P]

That pause. Right.

[Alex Perlman]

I had to pause right here.

[Mrs. P]

Pause is so good. You're never getting through this.

[Alex Perlman]

I'm never. This video is only 3 minutes and 9 seconds. We have already been introduced. We have already been introduced to a stranger.

[Mrs. P]

Yeah.

[Alex Perlman]

Who is already telling us about Jeremiah. He's the coolest Jeremiah is. So far, we've only seen walk.

[Mrs. P]

Yep.

[Alex Perlman]

And currently he's walking towards the camera. There's so much B roll already. Having done minor editing now for my own YouTube podcast. YouTube videos.

[Mrs. P]

Yeah.

[Alex Perlman]

This editor is Is dying inside. This editor is dead inside. And the cameraman, I'm assuming this is Jeremiah, is walking towards the screen and he's throwing uppercuts while wearing a big puffy jacket.

[Mrs. P]

He's leaving a private jet.

[Alex Perlman]

Yeah.

[Mrs. P]

With two sports cars and a blonde woman against one of them.

[Alex Perlman]

Yeah. Okay, I'm going to turn it down a little bit. We're going to hit play again. I would say friendship, and I would say entrepreneur. When you actually meet Jeremiah, please never.

[Mrs. P]

Describe me as friendship and entrepreneur.

[Alex Perlman]

Okay. Yeah, they said, I will describe him as friendship. I'll describe him as entrepreneur. They also were on a. He looks like he was on a podcast called Money is show.

[Mrs. P]

Yeah.

[Alex Perlman]

Which I don't think is a real podcast. I'm not going to Google that.

[Mrs. P]

Going to Google it.

[Alex Perlman]

But also a lot of the things that I'm seeing in this. And then he was going like the local news. Here he is wearing a cowboy hat and he has the worst. I want to say faux hawk.

[Mrs. P]

Yeah, it's a faux hawk. Yeah, it's a faux hawk mullet situation.

[Alex Perlman]

Yeah. The dude is like the nicest guy on the planet. The dude is like the nicest guy on the.

[Mrs. P]

I need you to tell me that up front. Tell me that he's the nicest guy.

[Alex Perlman]

We're 33 seconds.

[Mrs. P]

Well, now I know Friendship and apparently.

[Alex Perlman]

Sorry, wait. I just look back at the screen. Apparently everyone's on fire. What's happening?

[Mrs. P]

No, they got firecrackers. They're playing at dinner. Worst restaurant table of your life. Oh, my God. Look at those dreadlocks. Okay, Right now. Go ahead, explain.

[Alex Perlman]

Okay, so I guess he's giving some sort of presentation. It is clearly in a hotel.

[Mrs. P]

Yeah.

[Alex Perlman]

A convention is a convention. Okay, it's. It's definitely a hotel meeting room. And people are sitting at hotel tables and hotel chairs that say reserved. And a bunch of people are standing up, but the two people that are focused in the middle are white people with dreadlocks with their hair and the dirtiest buns you've ever seen. And they are surrounded like, nobody in this room makes sense.

[Mrs. P]

Yeah.

[Alex Perlman]

At all. And again, there's a giant lambda in the corner on the screen, and they're all applauding him.

[Mrs. P]

Yeah.

[Alex Perlman]

After he just said something and he.

[Mrs. P]

Just walked out on stage. Smoke machine again.

[Alex Perlman]

Yes. Because whatever.

[Mrs. P]

Smoke machine.

[Alex Perlman]

Whatever he's selling.

[Mrs. P]

This guy bought a smoke machine and he's bringing it with him.

[Alex Perlman]

Yeah, he's.

[Mrs. P]

Okay.

[Alex Perlman]

It's an investment.

[Mrs. P]

He's tax write off.

[Alex Perlman]

He's, you know, give him 10, 15 years of seasoning, dude, he'll probably end up at Trillionaire. It's easy to think flashy cars, all the stuff like, oh, dude, this dude's probably a jerk. Okay? He's just smok. This dude's probably a jerk. He's literally wearing a cowboy hat, smoking a cheap cigar.

[Mrs. P]

He's wearing a beige cowboy hat with a beige Cubano shirt with a gold chain, a diamondy Rolex.

[Alex Perlman]

And he hasn't shaved.

[Mrs. P]

And he hasn't shaved. And he's got the.

[Alex Perlman]

And he's smoking and he's wearing Oakley's.

[Mrs. P]

Yeah.

[Alex Perlman]

Yeah. Okay.

[Mrs. P]

He's arrogant. He's an a hole.

[Alex Perlman]

One of the nicest people I met. Like, legit. You would think he's arrogant, and he's an a hole. Here's a series of images of him being an arrogant hole.

[Mrs. P]

Yep.

[Alex Perlman]

And then we'll cut back to. Oh, my God.

[Mrs. P]

All right.

[Alex Perlman]

In the background, I can already see part of his speech. It says Alpha Automation. This says Alpha Automation. And again, the symbol is a lambda.

[Mrs. P]

Okay. Do you want to explain to us what the difference between an alpha and a lambda is?

[Alex Perlman]

Sure. It's the difference between A and L in the Alphabet.

[Mrs. P]

Got it.

[Alex Perlman]

The Greek Alphabet, the word. The letter alpha is A. Yep. The letter lambda is L. And B is Beta. Yes.

[Mrs. P]

C is Camden.

[Alex Perlman]

Gamma.

[Mrs. P]

Gamma.

[Alex Perlman]

Yeah. And D is Delta. Like that. Is it like that? Is it that? When they're like, oh, I'm an alpha. I'm a Beta.

[Mrs. P]

Whole personality. The letter A. But he's not using the letter A's.

[Alex Perlman]

Using the letter L. No, he's yelling, I am A. When actually he's like, you're not even on the grade scale.

[Mrs. P]

Yeah.

[Alex Perlman]

You're not even on the grade scale.

[Mrs. P]

He's doing the L sign on his forehead like we're in high school.

[Alex Perlman]

But in reality, he likes. He likes the L because he saw it in the 300 Spartans movie.

[Mrs. P]

Yeah.

[Alex Perlman]

Because they have it on there also Lambda. The reason why I know it's Lambda beyond, like, Greek or Fraternity or any of the other different shit.

[Mrs. P]

Yeah.

[Alex Perlman]

Is because of Revenge of the Nerds.

[Mrs. P]

Okay.

[Alex Perlman]

Their Lambda. Lambda Lambda is their fraternity.

[Mrs. P]

Got it.

[Alex Perlman]

He's not Alpha. Actually mean that.

[Mrs. P]

I look at Jeremiah, dude. That's the American dream.

[Alex Perlman]

That's okay. Okay. Why is he shooting a gun?

[Mrs. P]

Well, to see what happened is that guy just said he's the American dream. And the screen cut to a picture of him in camo gear where his arms are out, but he's wearing gloves and pardon Me. Bulletproof.

[Alex Perlman]

Well, he has to dress. No, he has to dress like he's in the movie Sicario.

[Mrs. P]

Okay.

[Alex Perlman]

This is very much. Or one of those CBS shows. So on Paramount plus especially, they love this look. This is like a Paramount plus show right here. He's in the desert. He's shooting, by the way, we've now been in. I want to count 30 locations.

[Mrs. P]

Yeah.

[Alex Perlman]

And this is a promo video for him. For him as a person. We are 54 seconds in.

[Mrs. P]

Okay.

[Alex Perlman]

Okay.

[Mrs. P]

American, right? The muscles, the fitness.

[Alex Perlman]

He's doing the ropes. He's doing the ropes.

[Mrs. P]

I need to point out this guy is not fit.

[Alex Perlman]

He's not fit. He's big.

[Mrs. P]

He's.

[Alex Perlman]

He's big, but, like, he's what we would call fit.

[Mrs. P]

And muscles.

[Alex Perlman]

It's what we would call country strong. Yeah, he's definitely what we would call country star. Like, maybe he goes to the week. The gym, like, once or twice a week.

[Mrs. P]

Yeah.

[Alex Perlman]

But he's not, like, ripped. It's not. When I look at him, I'm like, oh, I don't want his body.

[Mrs. P]

Wow.

[Alex Perlman]

You know what I'm saying? Like, But I'm saying, like, if this is the selling point.

[Mrs. P]

Yeah. If he's just funny. That they're like, he's so fit. I'm like, well, I don't know about that.

[Alex Perlman]

The money, the businesses, the serving people.

[Mrs. P]

And helping them to have better lives.

[Alex Perlman]

And he really is. Wait, is that what, behind them?

[Mrs. P]

Yeah, that's a floating sneaker.

[Alex Perlman]

Is that a shoe on a spinner?

[Mrs. P]

Yeah, it's spinning shoe, high top.

[Alex Perlman]

I'm gonna go back. I'm gonna go back. The money, the businesses. And he really is this funny down to earth. Just wants to have a conversation. Okay, y'all, he just froze.

[Mrs. P]

There's a firework in his mouth.

[Alex Perlman]

Just has a sparkler in his mouth. They have literally a shoe again. It's one of the most 20, 22 NFT bro rooms you've ever seen. I just want you to think back to crypto bro. Nft. That type of lighting, everything is too clean because it's a rented podcast studio. And behind them was a literal sneaker.

[Mrs. P]

Yeah.

[Alex Perlman]

That's never been worn on a spinner.

[Mrs. P]

On a spinner.

[Alex Perlman]

Okay.

[Mrs. P]

Yeah.

[Alex Perlman]

And I. I really actually like being around Jeremiah. He's just a fun dude. He brings a good energy. This guy's giving out really great, you.

[Mrs. P]

Know, very useful information. I love people with great energy.

[Alex Perlman]

Okay. They just keep showing him in private planes. But the other thing I'm noticing is that so Many of these shots were done in the same day.

[Mrs. P]

Yeah. Same outfit.

[Alex Perlman]

Because. The same outfit because he wears black. Because, you know, he learned that from Steve Jobs.

[Mrs. P]

Yeah.

[Alex Perlman]

You wear the same outfit every day, and it's one less thing you think about.

[Mrs. P]

I mean, I do that, but I don't think that's why he doesn't love what they do.

[Alex Perlman]

You do that because of depression. Yeah, that's because of depression. Yeah. You wear the same outfit every day because of depression.

[Mrs. P]

So I have a baby who just likes to boogers and vomit on everything.

[Alex Perlman]

No, exactly. It's just. It's more images of him. Wait, wait, hold on, hold on. What? Is that who I think it is?

[Mrs. P]

It is.

[Alex Perlman]

Okay, it was. There was more images of him walking onto a private plane, but I muted it for a second.

[Mrs. P]

Don't you dare mute it. The people need to hear.

[Alex Perlman]

Okay, hold on. Around. That are truly convicted in what they believe in, and they want to share.

[Mrs. P]

That with other people. Fortune favor.

[Alex Perlman]

That was Tony Lahren.

[Mrs. P]

That was Tony Lahren.

[Alex Perlman]

That was former Fox News personality.

[Mrs. P]

Yep.

[Alex Perlman]

And Internet Republican.

[Mrs. P]

Yep.

[Alex Perlman]

Tomi Lahren.

[Mrs. P]

Yep.

[Alex Perlman]

With a new nose.

[Mrs. P]

Well, you gotta get it.

[Alex Perlman]

The thing is. The thing is, is Tommy, you can just pay her. That was. That was basically a cameo. Yeah, that was a pain cameo.

[Mrs. P]

Yeah.

[Alex Perlman]

When she sat in a room, like. Yeah, I. Jeremiah is great.

[Mrs. P]

He's the coolest.

[Alex Perlman]

He calls himself the Bull. Yeah. He's just. And now he's in a room where I guess they're dressing like Squid game. I don't know. Let's see.

[Mrs. P]

Oh, that's where they make protein powder.

[Alex Perlman]

Oh, okay. You know, I can just get that from anywhere.

[Mrs. P]

Yeah.

[Alex Perlman]

You know, recently it was found that a bunch of protein powders have lead in them.

[Mrs. P]

Yeah, I did know that. Yeah.

[Alex Perlman]

Yeah, it explains a lot.

[Mrs. P]

Oh, Oopsie daisy.

[Alex Perlman]

Okay. Like, he doesn't hide things. Working with Jeremiah, I like that his hat says Alpha. But then everyone's wearing Lambda has really helped show me where I've been lacking in life and where I. I just am staring through. A lot of people are signing or writing down something. Everyone's wearing shirts. They're learning things again. He's now just hugging. He's giving out. Oh, yeah, this is. This. Wait, what was that? Hold on. I gotta turn this up a little bit. Yeah, let me. Let me get. I want to get this. This volume back because there's so much of this annoying background thing that I know is not going to be fun, but I need to hear. I heard a number Just get said. Let me rewind a little bit. Here we are. I made 4,400k. A little over 400k. In eight months here, I was able to bring in $120,000 check. That was from one week. Prior to that, I was averaging about 50 to 80k a week commissions.

[Mrs. P]

I make a week. It's about 10 grand. I like to. To hit that.

[Alex Perlman]

These are all made up numbers.

[Mrs. P]

Make it up. What? What are you talking about?

[Alex Perlman]

These are all made up numbers.

[Mrs. P]

This is an incredible.

[Alex Perlman]

I will never forget when I accidentally. I thought I was applying for a job and then discovered that it was an MLM scheme. And this is the exact thing they do is they hand out fake awards.

[Mrs. P]

Yep.

[Alex Perlman]

And they tell everybody this person made this many different things. And I'm like, their job is literally, if this person made so much money, then why are they desperately pressuring me to spend $250 to buy a CD ROM to teach me how to sell life insurance? If they made $400,000, then they should be like, all right, take it or leave it. I don't give a shit. I got $400,000. If I made $400,000, I would not work for the rest of the year. Well, so there we go. That's it. Like, that's the number. If you guys wondering what. Oh, where'd Pearl Mania go? He made $400,000 and then he just stopped talking. He just stopped talking. You want me to stop talking forever? 12.5 million.

[Mrs. P]

Never happened.

[Alex Perlman]

$12.5 million made out to me in a secret Swiss bank account that Mrs. P never knows about. I never talk again. Again.

[Mrs. P]

Wow.

[Alex Perlman]

Do you hear me? Rich people grand metric.

[Mrs. P]

Every month. It's completely changed my life. I went from making 20 grand a.

[Alex Perlman]

Year to 20, 40, 60 grand a month.

[Mrs. P]

20, 40, 60. Keep it open.

[Alex Perlman]

But also the. The background music is so menacing.

[Mrs. P]

Yeah, no, that's cool. That's cool music.

[Alex Perlman]

It's not. It's not cool.

[Mrs. P]

It's not menacing. It's cool. It's Alpha.

[Alex Perlman]

But also the mix is terrible.

[Mrs. P]

What do you. This editor knew what they were doing.

[Alex Perlman]

Clearly by working with Jeremiah, by working with Alpha, getting in the proximity of people that have, you know, millions of dollars and creating multi.

[Mrs. P]

Millions of dollars.

[Alex Perlman]

They just keep showing them in different hotels.

[Mrs. P]

Yeah.

[Alex Perlman]

Like, it's just different hotels, but they just pick nicer hotels to film these ones in.

[Mrs. P]

Yeah.

[Alex Perlman]

But every single one of these is just a newer Holiday Inn Express. A newer Holiday Inn Express. And now I'm at the point where I don't have to worry about money. Let's talk money. Let's talk business. This is the first time we've actually heard him say words.

[Mrs. P]

This is Jeremiah speaking.

[Alex Perlman]

Let's talk money. Let's talk business. Let's talk strategy and growing some fucking wealth.

[Mrs. P]

Well, see, it's got real intense.

[Alex Perlman]

Yeah, it's just him walking more.

[Mrs. P]

He's walking in Miami now.

[Alex Perlman]

He's walking by boats. He wasn't. Those weren't his boats.

[Mrs. P]

Nobody was in Miami.

[Alex Perlman]

No, but he was just walking by boats.

[Mrs. P]

I mean, it might have been like Tampa on the.

[Alex Perlman]

No, no, but those are. Those aren't his boats. No, of course those are. Just. But he's walking by boats. I like.

[Mrs. P]

I like. In this scene, you've just frozen on. Every man in this image is wearing a winter coat and she is wearing a bra. Tank top.

[Alex Perlman]

Yes. So, yeah, with fake hair. I can tell that's fake hair.

[Mrs. P]

Wow. You're hanging around me too long.

[Alex Perlman]

No, I can just. I can just see it.

[Mrs. P]

Those are some extensions.

[Alex Perlman]

If I can tell it's fake hair, that's bad.

[Mrs. P]

Great extensions.

[Alex Perlman]

All right, now it's just showing again.

[Mrs. P]

Oh, cool guy.

[Alex Perlman]

It's just more images of him and slow. And people clapping.

[Mrs. P]

Oh, like he's carrying now fashion, Dior, Louis Vuitton podcast mics that.

[Alex Perlman]

We have those mics. Oh, he's showing our exact mic.

[Mrs. P]

Oh, no.

[Alex Perlman]

Because just so you guys know, this. This mic, the shore mic that I have in front of me in the four people with brain rot, they believe that this is a status symbol.

[Mrs. P]

Oh.

[Alex Perlman]

Because they're very. They're expensive. This is like a 400 microphone.

[Mrs. P]

Yeah.

[Alex Perlman]

And so they think.

[Mrs. P]

But we needed it because the comments kept saying that we didn't sound good.

[Alex Perlman]

I know. We literally got it because the people who like to listen to us couldn't understand us. But to a lot of them, they want it. They need to immediately have the most expensive thing.

[Mrs. P]

They just did a whole slow mo shot of the podcast mic.

[Alex Perlman]

It was just of the mic.

[Mrs. P]

Yeah.

[Alex Perlman]

And now they're just showing the room that is rented. And now more people are signing Bullpen. Yeah, sure. Lambda again.

[Mrs. P]

Yeah. So I feel like this video truly expressed who Jeremiah Evans. Jeremiah the Bull Evans is.

[Alex Perlman]

Well, you know. Okay, I know who he is. First, people say he's arrogant, but he's not. He's actually a really good guy. And in his words, we're going to make some fucking money.

[Mrs. P]

Let's talk about.

[Alex Perlman]

Well, let's talk about making some fucking money.

[Mrs. P]

Yeah.

[Alex Perlman]

Yeah. That's that is. That was an experience.

[Mrs. P]

Yeah.

[Alex Perlman]

So.

[Mrs. P]

So now. Now that we know who he is by this YouTube video that he commissioned himself about himself to introduce the world, I wanted to. Quickly, again, in the spirit of finding out who Jeremiah the Bull Evans is, I found his Instagram.

[Alex Perlman]

Oh, okay.

[Mrs. P]

Okay. I just wanted to quick go through it now. It says Jeremiah Evans. First type in his bio. Christ is king, American flag, freedom. Okay, so I think we know where we are.

[Alex Perlman]

Yeah.

[Mrs. P]

Host of the Bull Evans podcast.

[Alex Perlman]

Okay.

[Mrs. P]

There are not a lot of episodes of that. I need you to know. Okay.

[Alex Perlman]

There's not as. So you're telling me that the Bull Evans podcast has less episodes than too many Taps?

[Mrs. P]

Yes, it does.

[Alex Perlman]

It has. It. So it doesn't have anywhere near hundreds of episodes.

[Mrs. P]

No, it doesn't have a backlog of hours. Of hours of hilarious comedy.

[Alex Perlman]

Hundreds of hours of comedy. Content, history and important.

[Mrs. P]

A lot of lore. Inside jokes.

[Alex Perlman]

A lot of deep lore.

[Mrs. P]

Pre potato, post potato. You know what I'm saying?

[Alex Perlman]

You know what? We haven't brought that up in a long time.

[Mrs. P]

Yeah, yeah, we should.

[Alex Perlman]

We should bring it back.

[Mrs. P]

We were talking about potatoes in the warm up.

[Alex Perlman]

We were. We did it. Yeah. Yeah.

[Mrs. P]

Okay. Also, it says amateur boxer and Jiu jitsu.

[Alex Perlman]

Okay.

[Mrs. P]

Okay.

[Alex Perlman]

And jiu jitsu.

[Mrs. P]

Yeah. So those are. That's his bio. And then there's a link to his website.

[Alex Perlman]

Yeah.

[Mrs. P]

And I really wanted to just bring up. He hasn't posted anything new in a while. Okay. His Last post was September 26, 2023.

[Alex Perlman]

2023.

[Mrs. P]

2023.

[Alex Perlman]

So it's been a while.

[Mrs. P]

Been a while.

[Alex Perlman]

So it's been going good.

[Mrs. P]

Okay. But I want to read you his post. It's a picture of him in front of a podcast mic. Very important. Hands are crossed.

[Alex Perlman]

Yeah. Let me just hold it up to the camera. There it is.

[Mrs. P]

There it is.

[Alex Perlman]

That almost looks AI.

[Mrs. P]

Yeah, it does come with AI.

[Alex Perlman]

That does look like the way that it's the filters they're using on it.

[Mrs. P]

Yeah.

[Alex Perlman]

But yeah, okay.

[Mrs. P]

Deep fried himself.

[Alex Perlman]

Yeah, he deep fried himself.

[Mrs. P]

Okay. So it says, I have failed more times in my twenties than most will ever dare attempt in their entire life. Space. In times of pain, resilience awakens space. The resilience to hold the line. To become even more grounded and anchored in truth. To dig your fucking heels deeper and deeper until you finally become immovable space. I thank God for my failures and pains. And he has blessed me with these opportunities to prove once again to myself and to the world, my own greatness.

[Alex Perlman]

I have a question yeah, of course. Why do idiots write the longest Instagram captions? Instagram is for pictures. The caption should be no longer than a sentence. Maybe two. I don't know why they write fucking paragraphs. Do people actually read Instagram? I'm being serious. Do people actually read Instagram captions?

[Mrs. P]

No.

[Alex Perlman]

That's what I'm saying. You're scrolling through a feed, and then occasionally you stop on an image like it's there just for SEO purposes. It's for search engine optimization purposes. Because if maybe I'm talking about, I don't know, Godzilla or the X Men, it'll show me to other people who like Godzilla or the X Men. Instagram only shows me Godzilla and the X Men and women shaking ass that I've never asked for. Yeah, well, that's all it does.

[Mrs. P]

It says mail.

[Alex Perlman]

Got you mail.

[Mrs. P]

Okay, so then another post within this top six.

[Alex Perlman]

I want to go back. I want to go back to this caption, though, because you read it to me. I know it read very much as I'm about to lose in family court.

[Mrs. P]

Oh, sketch.

[Alex Perlman]

That felt very much of I'm about to lose in family court, and I'm losing the kids, and I'm going to lose a lot of other stuff. That is. I've read that. I've read that a thousand times on Facebook.

[Mrs. P]

Yeah. Let me see here. Oh, wait, did I make a mistake? He has posted since then. He has that pinned. Oh, that's pinned. That's a crazy pinball.

[Alex Perlman]

That's a wild pin.

[Mrs. P]

Crazy pin.

[Alex Perlman]

But also, why would I listen to you for financial advice if your first thing you're gonna say to me is.

[Mrs. P]

That you make mistakes?

[Alex Perlman]

No, no. I failed more than anyone else in my 20s.

[Mrs. P]

That's presidential.

[Alex Perlman]

Yeah.

[Mrs. P]

So another post. This is a picture. It says, an evil man will burn his own nation to the ground to rule over the ashes. Sun Tzu. And then in his caption, he wrote, the only way globalism can succeed is for America to fall.

[Alex Perlman]

All right. Okay.

[Mrs. P]

Yeah.

[Alex Perlman]

So we're already blaming Jews.

[Mrs. P]

Okay.

[Alex Perlman]

Because that's what that. Just so you guys know, whenever somebody's like, globalism, that has been the dog whistle for that for, like, almost 20 years now. But also, an evil man quoting Sun Tzu is such a bro. I've never had a real job move that I've ever heard. They love to quote Sun Tzu, which is very. Just so you guys know, the Art of War is an interesting book because it was one of the first times somebody wrote down very basic ideas.

[Mrs. P]

Yeah.

[Alex Perlman]

Like Very. The Art of War should be viewed the same way you view warning labels on a ladder.

[Mrs. P]

Yeah.

[Alex Perlman]

Okay. One of. What can I tell you? One of the tenets of the Art of War. Make sure your soldiers are fed. Make sure they have clean weaponry. People didn't think about that before, and so that's why he wrote it down. He was a really good general because he was like, yeah, at the baseline. It's logistics and. And that. That's most of it. That's most of it. And so it's the same thing with like a ladder. Like, when you're looking at an actual ladder, it's like, hey, make sure it's propped up against a wall and not stack of hay. Like, yeah. Nobody ever turns and says, hey, I was reading the side of this ladder and it gave me a really lot of good life advice. Like, make sure you have a stable base.

[Mrs. P]

Yeah. You know, now the only other one that really got me is he made an Instagram reel that is of his own tweets that just make fun of poor people. Oh, yeah. So it's like there are people who have the most opportunity to live in the land of the free, and yet they squander the opportunity placed in front of them. If you live in America and you find yourself to be fat and poor, you have no one to blame but yourself or food subsidies being spent on. Hope is lost. You can take accountability. Accountability. Repent your laziness and work hard. You have the power to change your circumstances.

[Alex Perlman]

Did this really say that work will make you free? Yeah, this, this. He just really. So I feel like also him calling people fat.

[Mrs. P]

I'm saying he's not that in, like.

[Alex Perlman]

He'S not in shape.

[Mrs. P]

In shape.

[Alex Perlman]

Like, he's not. He's big boned.

[Mrs. P]

Yeah.

[Alex Perlman]

You know, I'm saying, like, he's big, but I wouldn't be like, hey, look at that guy. But like, you calling somebody fat is crazy. But I'm just saying that right now it's like him calling somebody fat is crazy.

[Mrs. P]

I feel like we know who he is, so I think we should take a break.

[Alex Perlman]

He's American, skinny.

[Mrs. P]

And we're going to come back and we're going to learn more about why I even fell down this Jeremiah the Bull Evans Internet hole, if you will.

[Alex Perlman]

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[Alex Perlman]

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[Alex Perlman]

Okay, I'm ready to hear all about who Jeremiah the Bull really is.

[Mrs. P]

He's still learning. We're still learning a lot about him. Here's what I'll tell you. He has a website, a website called the Bull Evans. Okay, here's some things that are on it. His book, the Power of Promise.

[Alex Perlman]

The Power of Promise turn in for weekly episodes.

[Mrs. P]

Wait, did he update this website since last? I. I think he updated his website since last time I looked at it, it didn't look like this before.

[Alex Perlman]

Oh, really? He's actually updated it since then?

[Mrs. P]

Yeah. Okay, so we have the seven deadly skills. My 100 free online program to help you successfully launch and scale your online business. Master the seven most deadly online skills that will immediately, immediately take you from beginner to advanced in just seven days.

[Alex Perlman]

Oh, so we're doing seven and sevens?

[Mrs. P]

Yeah, Alpha Body Fuel supplements made to fuel the warrior.

[Alex Perlman]

Okay, book the bull.

[Mrs. P]

Want the Bull to be a guest on your podcast or speak at an upcoming event? Submit your request here. Should we book them?

[Alex Perlman]

I think I'm good.

[Mrs. P]

Okay, I.

[Alex Perlman]

Seeing as in his own promo video, he only said two sentences.

[Mrs. P]

Okay, he might not be a good order.

[Alex Perlman]

Yeah, Orator.

[Mrs. P]

I'm barely good at it.

[Alex Perlman]

You're barely barely functioning a good order. That was. That was the most hoagie mouth you've ever hit me with, orator.

[Mrs. P]

So here's what was on the website. I took a screenshot. Well, I copy pasted off it because I was like, this is the funniest thing on it. He describes himself in his. His bio as a former division one quarterback back and online entrepreneur. He has achieved over 70 million in online sales across seven different industries throughout his career. He has helped over 300 students make their first six figures online with over 15 of them doing over seven figures in online sales.

[Alex Perlman]

Wait, okay, that's just a lot of random ass numbers. Yeah, that's just a lot of random numbers saying the word seven over and over again mixed in.

[Mrs. P]

Yeah, here's the thing. The first thing that I had to look up is a former Division 1 quarterback.

[Alex Perlman]

Yeah.

[Mrs. P]

Lie.

[Alex Perlman]

Really?

[Mrs. P]

He was a quarterback at BYU in 2017, but he never actually played a game.

[Alex Perlman]

Oh, okay. Is Brigham Young. I guess Brigham Young is Division one, but. Oh, Brigham Young, he's Mormon.

[Mrs. P]

Yeah, baby. Welcome to Utah, baby.

[Alex Perlman]

Wait, wait, we got a. We got a Mormon. Oh, baby. Oh, baby.

[Mrs. P]

But also lying on your website that you're like this great quarterback but you never played a game.

[Alex Perlman]

He was, he. Listen, he was a Division 1.

[Mrs. P]

Never played.

[Alex Perlman]

Being on the bench is being part of the team. Being on the bench is being part of the team. Okay.

[Mrs. P]

I mean, that's true. I'm not going to deny that. Okay, But I wouldn't put it as the opening sentence.

[Alex Perlman]

I mean, I would if I was trying to ingratiate people into believing that I have more ability than I actually do.

[Mrs. P]

That's true. So anyway, in 2022, okay, Jeremiah the Bull Evans throws a convention.

[Alex Perlman]

Wait, is this still from his bio?

[Mrs. P]

No, I'm just.

[Alex Perlman]

Can I say something real fast about the bio? Just because we had to write a bio for me.

[Mrs. P]

Yeah.

[Alex Perlman]

And by we, I mean I had to have you write a bio for me because for as much of a narcissistic, messianic complex psycho as I am.

[Mrs. P]

Yeah.

[Alex Perlman]

I feel really crazy writing about myself.

[Mrs. P]

Yeah.

[Alex Perlman]

Like having to sit down. I. I want all y'all listen at home. Try this. Sit down and write your accomplishments out in the third person. Alex Perlman is a 20 year veteran, stand up comedian, podcast hoster, EW, friend to Hunter Biden. You know what I mean?

[Mrs. P]

Like, this is what they're going to use against you in court.

[Alex Perlman]

Fuck it. They're going to use everything against me in court. It don't matter. The funny part is it's going to be a weird reverse. That's what I mean. You know what I mean? Like guys like this that you're, you're. You're listening to the future Secretary of the Treasury. Okay. So be careful. All right.

[Mrs. P]

I should stop now, but I'm not gonna. So in 2022, like the year you were saying this is reeks of 2022.

[Alex Perlman]

It just has something. It's that post pandemic, that post lockdown feel. We're outside. Look at how much money I made on the stock market while all y'all were using your stimmies to survive. What I do, I bought dogecoin. It's just, that's what he. He just exudes that. And also I remember. Oh, the lighting, the lighting feels like when you're watching football promos and they show, like, the. The offensive linemen who are standing in the smoke as it does the slow cam around them. That's what it felt like watching that.

[Mrs. P]

So in 2022, he throws a convention, which was in the video we were watching, remember? But we're like, why are all those people, like, dressed up in suits and writing things down at tables? Okay, guess what he named it.

[Alex Perlman]

Named the convention.

[Mrs. P]

Yeah.

[Alex Perlman]

Dashcon Alpha Con. Alpha Con.

[Mrs. P]

Yeah.

[Alex Perlman]

But his symbol's a lambda. Yeah, I can't get over that. No, it's just. It's, you know, you don't want the. Do you want to know what the Greek letter, the actual, like, shape is for alpha? But it's an uppercase. A. Yeah, it's just an A. You can just put an A on it. No, but it doesn't look Greek enough.

[Mrs. P]

Doesn't look cool enough.

[Alex Perlman]

Okay.

[Mrs. P]

Yeah.

[Alex Perlman]

Okay. Alpha Con. Like that wasn't already taken.

[Mrs. P]

Just Alpha Con is such a terrible.

[Alex Perlman]

This feels. It also feels like something out of.

[Mrs. P]

The Omega falling for an Alpha Con, my friend, baby, they put con in it.

[Alex Perlman]

That is very funny, but also, it sounds like a furry convention.

[Mrs. P]

Oh.

[Alex Perlman]

Like, it feels like we're all alpha wolves.

[Mrs. P]

Oh, no.

[Alex Perlman]

Inside of me are two wolves and later three.

[Geico Voiceover]

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[Mrs. P]

So, okay, I just. We just need to know that he threw a convention.

[Alex Perlman]

Yeah.

[Mrs. P]

I just need you to know that it was just like any other convention. He's speaking. He's teaching people how they are going to become millionaires with him. If they just follow his simple steps and invest with him. He's going to teach them how to become millionaires. Right. He's going to help them. And so people bought tickets and they. They went to Alpha Khan to learn his ways. Because he's super successful. Obviously, we've talked about this and you saw in the video he has a fancy car.

[Alex Perlman]

And you said in that one paragraph, he's made money.

[Mrs. P]

Made money.

[Alex Perlman]

Okay, so teach me.

[Mrs. P]

Let's. But here's the thing. How did I find out about him? The Department of Justice.

[Alex Perlman]

Yeah.

[Mrs. P]

So let me read to you what's posted on the DOJ's website site.

[Alex Perlman]

For now.

[Mrs. P]

Yeah, for now.

[Alex Perlman]

For now.

[Mrs. P]

This is actually the District of Utah, so it might stay.

[Alex Perlman]

Oh, yeah, State. This is Utah. Okay. Okay. Yeah, yeah.

[Mrs. P]

So it says, press release. Alpha influence ringleader admits to defrauding investors of over $20 million.

[Alex Perlman]

20 million. Maybe. You know what? Maybe one of those was his boat. Could have been 20 million. A lot of money.

[Mrs. P]

Could have been one of his boats.

[Alex Perlman]

Oh, wow. Okay.

[Mrs. P]

Alpha investment scheme defrauded more than 500 victims in Utah and elsewhere.

[Alex Perlman]

Wait, I'm doing math. 20 million divided by 500.

[Mrs. P]

Okay.

[Alex Perlman]

Is a lot of money per person.

[Mrs. P]

Yeah.

[Alex Perlman]

Okay. Maybe one person had a lot of money and everybody else was small.

[Mrs. P]

Yeah, maybe, Maybe.

[Alex Perlman]

Okay.

[Mrs. P]

Salt Lake City, Utah. A Utah businessman pleaded guilty today to securities fraud and money laundering after admitting he lied to investors and fraudulently sold investment contracts, which are securities, through his company, Alpha Influence LLC, for Alpha Automated Stores. Jeremiah Joseph Evans, the bull 29 of Utah county was charged by felony information on January 21, 2025.

[Alex Perlman]

So he just. He just pled guilty?

[Mrs. P]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Alex Perlman]

And he just got.

[Mrs. P]

That's why it popped up.

[Alex Perlman]

Oh.

[Mrs. P]

Because I was like, wait a minute, who's this?

[Alex Perlman]

I did the math. 20,000. 20 million divided by 500 is 40,000 a person.

[Mrs. P]

Thank you for doing that math.

[Alex Perlman]

You're welcome.

[Mrs. P]

According to court documents and administration admissions made at the change. Change of plea hearing from July 2019 to July 22, Evans fraudulently sold investments in E Commerce stores across Alpha Influence llc, a registered Utah corporation. As part of this scheme to defraud, Evans promised investors a secure money in exchange for Alpha investments. Evans fraudulently obtained over $20 million from approximately 530 investors. And as alleged in court documents, Evans lied to investors about how successful his company was and how long it was in operations. Evans sold E Commerce stores to purchasers as a passive investment and promised that the stores would make consistent, predictable monthly returns. Despite knowing this was false, he failed to disclose that the majority of the investment funds went directly to Alpha Influence LLC and were primarily distributed as commissions to those selling the fraudulent investments and himself. Only a small portion sent to the servicer or the investor's stores.

[Alex Perlman]

Got it. So by he was like, I'm gonna sell you this automated store which is drop shipping. Yeah, okay. It's drop shipping.

[Mrs. P]

It's drop shipping.

[Alex Perlman]

Okay. It's drop shipping. All right. I feel good. I feel good about that. Okay. So it's automated dropshipping that he is selling to people who think that they're just going to be getting rich and that this is just going to print money passively. Passively.

[Mrs. P]

I love passive income.

[Alex Perlman]

I haven't heard passive income in a while. Yep, we would hearing a lot of passive income. In 2022, right around the NFT crash, everything was passive income. Get that? Passive income. Yeah, yeah. So there was that. And so he's pushing that. And then these people. I did the math again. 530 divided by 20 million is $37,735.85.

[Mrs. P]

Perfect.

[Alex Perlman]

Per person. Yeah. So he's probably being like ballpark, 40,000, 25,000, depending on each person.

[Mrs. P]

Yep.

[Alex Perlman]

And he's getting this money from them, and then he's giving it directly to his staff, mostly probably to tell them to shut the fuck up.

[Mrs. P]

No, no, no. So here's what's happening. There is a team of people that work for him. There are his affiliates.

[Alex Perlman]

Crime squad.

[Mrs. P]

His crime squad.

[Alex Perlman]

Okay.

[Mrs. P]

And the affiliates go out and they find more guys that want to be alpha marks and they say, hey, if you would like to invest in this business, we will set up an E commerce site for you. And you just have to make this initial investment and then you will passively make money. Right. Now, those guys, the affiliates, they get commissions on every E store they sell.

[Alex Perlman]

Yeah.

[Mrs. P]

So every time an investor gives a chunk of money, the money's not going into the E store. It's going into the pocket of the affiliate and then of course, to the bull.

[Alex Perlman]

Okay.

[Mrs. P]

Jeremiah the Bull Evans got. He gets a chunk.

[Alex Perlman]

Got it.

[Mrs. P]

And the. The E Commerce store really doesn't get any money because it's drop shipping.

[Alex Perlman]

Yeah.

[Mrs. P]

If somebody orders something, there'll be money.

[Alex Perlman]

Okay. So they're basically paying them to set up a squarespace site.

[Mrs. P]

Yeah.

[Alex Perlman]

Okay. Got it. And they're hoping that these people who have $40,000 laying around are not going to notice that they are not getting $40,000 back at the minimum.

[Mrs. P]

Yeah.

[Alex Perlman]

That in fact, they're somehow. This is costing them even more money.

[Mrs. P]

Yeah.

[Alex Perlman]

Okay. This sounds brilliant.

[Mrs. P]

Yeah. This sounds like the smartest business I've ever heard.

[Alex Perlman]

This sounds like there are many levels to this marketing.

[Mrs. P]

There are a lot of levels.

[Alex Perlman]

Can I tell you that one thing doesn't make any sense to me about the passive income from the E Commerce drop shipping store.

[Mrs. P]

Yeah.

[Alex Perlman]

Why would I? At the end of the day, the actual consumer who they feel like they're selling. This, I'm guessing is protein powder.

[Mrs. P]

No, they're selling E Commerce stores.

[Alex Perlman]

No, I know, but the E Commerce store. What's the E Commerce selling?

[Mrs. P]

It's like, whatever. So, like, you just pick. So, like, based on what I was reading, like, if I gave him an investment and I'm like, I want to open an E Commerce store.

[Alex Perlman]

Okay.

[Mrs. P]

You would be like, I'm gonna sell knockoff Lululemon leggings.

[Alex Perlman]

Okay.

[Mrs. P]

Or something else they sell on Amazon. I did. I. It's all on Amazon.

[Alex Perlman]

Yeah, I know. That's. That's. As a. There's Two things I'm stuck on here. Number one, as a consumer, the end user, who I am going to get the money for. That's. That's generating my passive income. Yeah, the end user. Why the fuck would they come to my store? Why would they. Why the fuck would they come to knockoffstore.com? right.

[Mrs. P]

Yeah.

[Alex Perlman]

Number two, the second part that I really can't get over is why wouldn't you, the person with $40,000, just go to Squarespace or just go to Shopify or just go to any of these other places that exist that are only for a certain amount of money, who, if they sponsored us, I would be using a promo code to tell our people about it.

[Mrs. P]

I would love to build a website, but no one will sponsor it.

[Alex Perlman]

No one can tell us. That's why if you go to pearlmania500.net it takes you directly. Directly to our Patreon.

[Mrs. P]

Which you should join.

[Alex Perlman]

Which you should join.

[Mrs. P]

Not a Ponzi scheme. Yeah, it's a great question.

[Alex Perlman]

It just uses Ponzi like language.

[Mrs. P]

You have great questions.

[Alex Perlman]

Yeah.

[Mrs. P]

So here's what I have in front of me, okay?

[Alex Perlman]

A bunch of dumb Mormons who did not ask questions.

[Mrs. P]

Didn't ask any questions. No, you don't stop asking questions. It's not Alpha to ask questions.

[Alex Perlman]

Oh, I got it. Got it.

[Mrs. P]

You have an Alpha leader who's telling you how to be Alpha. You listen or you're a beta.

[Alex Perlman]

No, because you know what? I'm not beta. I'm a bored gay werewolf and I'm about to fight back. Arf. Arf. Arf. This is how it became a furry pocket. See?

[Mrs. P]

Oh, no.

[Alex Perlman]

Oh, no, my ass hatch is open.

[Mrs. P]

Okay, so while I was doing research, I was like. Well, like, you know, like I'm looking through these documents right online, and I found the affidavit for the. The search and seize warrant.

[Alex Perlman]

Oh.

[Mrs. P]

That they used for meta. Okay.

[Alex Perlman]

Okay.

[Mrs. P]

It's important to remember this is all happening on Instagram and Facebook. So the government had to get signed documentation to pull all of that off online through meta. And so I have the affidavit where they got a judge's signature for a warrant to get all this. And I think it's the greatest place to pull this information from.

[Alex Perlman]

Gotcha.

[Mrs. P]

Okay, so let me just scroll down a bit. All right. Let's see the facts of the. They have to. We don't need to read all this. Alpha Influence, LLC is a Utah limited liability company that was registered by the Utah Division of corporations on July 22nd of 2019. Okay. Jeremiah Evans is listed as a member and registered agent for Alpha. Also, Mackenzie Evans was listed as a member of Alpha. I immediately am upset. I need you to know how Mackenzie is spelled.

[Alex Perlman]

Oh, I was about to ask. I don't know if you're watching the video. Everyone just saw me pull my microphone closer. I was, like, sitting back and relaxing a little bit. I was like, I'm just gonna listen. And then you said mackenzie. And I was like, I'm about to get hit with the craziest spelling.

[Mrs. P]

Mackenzie. Are you ready?

[Alex Perlman]

And we. Was that Mackenzie in the video with the bad? Yeah, with the bad.

[Mrs. P]

That's his wife. This is their business.

[Alex Perlman]

God.

[Mrs. P]

Alpha is their business.

[Alex Perlman]

Got it. Oh, my God.

[Mrs. P]

I need you to be ready.

[Alex Perlman]

I went home. Real quick. Yeah, real quick. I would like to describe again to the woman that I saw in the video.

[Mrs. P]

She looks Utah.

[Alex Perlman]

She had hair like ramen noodle and skin like hot dog.

[Mrs. P]

Yeah, Utah. So no offense to people from Utah. I'm really sorry, but there is no.

[Alex Perlman]

No, people who live in Utah know.

[Mrs. P]

Yeah, they know specific way. Some of the gals from Utah.

[Alex Perlman]

Look, listen, okay, we are. I. I have confidence, yeah. That our listeners, our regular viewers, our. Hey, Huns, our team lead, the feds, whatever we called the ten dollar tier. All of them. The Pearl maniacs, the Too Many Tabbers. Listen, all y'all, right now, I'm reaching out my hand to you. I. When we talk shit on people from your state, we are not talking about, you know. You know for a fact that we are talking about mlm. Scumbags. You know for a fact that we are talking about grifton preachers. You know for a fact that we are talking about evil politicians. You know for a fact that we are talking about the Spanish Inquisition, not the people of Spain. Go on, spell mackenzie in the most ludicrous way I've ever heard.

[Mrs. P]

M M, A.

[Alex Perlman]

What? Okay.

[Mrs. P]

A. No, no, I want you to write it down.

[Alex Perlman]

Okay, I'm writing M, A, K. Okay.

[Mrs. P]

I.

[Alex Perlman]

Okay.

[Mrs. P]

N. Okay. S, E, E. McKenzie.

[Alex Perlman]

No, no, that's McKenzie.

[Mrs. P]

MacKenzie.

[Alex Perlman]

That's McKinsey. Okay, that is. That is McKinsey. I ran out of space.

[Mrs. P]

That is McKinsey for the listeners. He wrote it on that pink postcard he was holding up, but he ran out of space. So at MacKenzie, like, goes along, the.

[Alex Perlman]

Board falls off a little bit. Much like. Much like the Mormons are falling off right now. That's Mac and C. That's what she wrote also. First thing, if you're gonna do A Mackenzie. It's M A C K. We at least have to get there. No, we can't go.

[Mrs. P]

M a k McKenzie.

[Alex Perlman]

What do they do to the water out there?

[Mrs. P]

I. There's not enough fluoride. So it's all.

[Alex Perlman]

But they all have beautiful teeth.

[Mrs. P]

It's all. They pay for those.

[Alex Perlman]

Don't ruin it.

[Mrs. P]

Oh, sorry.

[Alex Perlman]

Don't ruin the.

[Mrs. P]

It's because they don't drink coffee. That's why they don't teeth like us. They don't know the joy of three.

[Alex Perlman]

I really can't talk too much because my teeth. I listen sometimes on some of the lighting on some of these videos as I'm going into editing, I'm like, oh, you smoked for 20 years, buddy. Yeah, smoked for 20 years.

[Mrs. P]

They don't smoke or drink coffee.

[Alex Perlman]

That's why they got teeth.

[Mrs. P]

So Alpha is described its purpose on its Utah business entity filing as, quote, online platform used to help launch potential clients, businesses, counseling and advice for new startup business to help. Sure. Ensure success.

[Alex Perlman]

Okay, so they sell courses. Yeah. What a classic story for us. This is just like, what do they do? Sells courses. Got it, got it. So I could sell courses.

[Mrs. P]

Well, you have Canva.

[Alex Perlman]

I know, I know. I was thinking about today. I had a call with a friend of mine who was asking me, like, how to set up a podcast and those things. I talked to him for like an hour and by the time I was like, you know, I could teach people how to do.

[Mrs. P]

And then I was like, that's how it starts.

[Alex Perlman]

That's how it starts.

[Mrs. P]

From about March 2020 through March 2023, Alpha portrayed itself as a wealth building company and an investment firm. Alpha has multiple affiliated entities, including Alpha Automation, Alpha Assets, Alpha Financial, and Alpha's Creed. Neither Alpha nor any Alpha entities has ever recorded a securities registration exemption from registration or notice of filing with the Utah Division of securities or United States securities and Exchange Commission.

[Alex Perlman]

Yep. And that was a big thing, actually. When I worked at the bank, I had to constantly say, I'm not a financial advisor. If people would ask us because I'd be like, oh, we have a certificate of deposit. You know, this account, the savings account gives this much. And they'd be, oh, is that as good as, like the stock market? Like, I'm not a financial advisor. Instantly, I had to be like, yeah. They would be like, if they caught you being like, well, I mean, you could do this or like, maybe you could buy this stock. You would instantly get fired.

[Mrs. P]

Yeah.

[Alex Perlman]

Because they're like, there's laws that say you have to be a registered financial advisor with financial advisement training who can tell people about the risks involved. Also, Alpha Creed.

[Mrs. P]

I knew you were going to get past it.

[Alex Perlman]

I couldn't get past it. He's running a furry website like that is. This man is giffing. Okay, this man.

[Mrs. P]

Also, when as a paralegal, I had to say, I'm not an attorney.

[Alex Perlman]

Thousand times a day, so many different things, where people be like, oh, well.

[Mrs. P]

Should I do this? I'm like, I absolutely can't give legal advice.

[Alex Perlman]

I can't. I'm a. Yeah. No, I'm not.

[Mrs. P]

No, I'm not.

[Alex Perlman]

I'm not an attorney. I'm not a financial advisor. Yeah, and that's.

[Mrs. P]

Look at us, listening to the rules, jerk. Like fucking alpha behavior.

[Alex Perlman]

Like fucking more.

[Mrs. P]

We should be out here.

[Alex Perlman]

I would be Alpha. Let me tell you something. If we stop listening to the rules, you know what I would be?

[Mrs. P]

What?

[Alex Perlman]

Senator. I would be a fucking senator right now. Honestly, let's stop listening to the rules. Y'all meet me in the street at this address, 1800 Mackenzie. Spelled that way. No, that is not me. Hold on. I'm still stuck on Mac and C. Because it's not. It's not. Because if anyone. If you ever saw this world word written in the wild, you would say Mac and C McKenzie. Because this is what happens when you. We stop teaching phonics. That's how you look, Mack.

[Mrs. P]

M, A, K. I know because Ms. Rachel told me.

[Alex Perlman]

I know. But hold on, Mack. M A, K. Done in. We're done. C, S, E, E. That's three syllables. That's not Mackenzie. There's no Z.

[Mrs. P]

Okay, next line from this warrant.

[Alex Perlman]

I forgot even reading a warrant. I'm just mad at her parents.

[Mrs. P]

Jeremiah Evans called himself the Bull and markets his entrepreneurial mentorship podcast book, health supplements and athletic leisure wear. Jeremiah Evans purports to be an Alpha, which is in quotes, which he portrays as, among other things, a successful businessman, period. I need you to know that in the legal world, when you're writing a warrant. This is the sickest burn I've ever read. A lawyer type. Listen to me. Say this again, okay? Jeremiah Evans calls himself the Bull in quotes and markets his entrepreneurial mentorship podcast book, health supplements and athleisure wear, period. Jeremiah Evans purports to be a, quote, alpha, comma, which he portrays as, among other things, a successful businessman, period. This lawyer was like. That sentence goes hard. I want to copy paste this and send this to every attorney I know just so that they will Bark laughing.

[Alex Perlman]

Yeah.

[Mrs. P]

Because that is the meanest thing I've ever read in legalese. He purports himself a successful businessman of athlete athleisure.

[Alex Perlman]

Yeah. He calls himself a bull. He sells sweatpants. He smells leggings.

[Mrs. P]

I can't deal. Jeremiah.

[Alex Perlman]

Gotta watch out. The bull's gonna give you the horns. Want to give you the horns.

[Mrs. P]

Jeremiah Evans is a social media influencer who, as of March 12, 2024, has approximately 434,000 followers on his personal Instagram account. At the Bull Evans, how many have 434,000 on his IG? Yeah. Is that more than you?

[Alex Perlman]

Slightly more.

[Mrs. P]

I need everyone to go follow Permania. 500. Can't have Jeremiah.

[Alex Perlman]

You don't have.

[Mrs. P]

No, look at his. If you can see his face, he's upset. He's upset that Jeremiah.

[Alex Perlman]

You don't have to.

[Mrs. P]

More followers.

[Alex Perlman]

No, listen, there's a lot of people who don't want to use meta products, and I understand that.

[Mrs. P]

I get it. Yeah.

[Alex Perlman]

It is just listen, I only recently broke 400,000 on IG.

[Mrs. P]

Yeah.

[Alex Perlman]

And did I do give it one of these? That I give it a pump? Yeah, the arm pump. Yeah, I did. Did I leave it at that? Yeah. Because again, I still don't give a shit about Instagram, but when I hear about a scumbag like that and I'm like, I want to at least have more than him, there's Jeremiah Evans. How can I be the alpha in this situation?

[Mrs. P]

Jeremiah Evans regularly creates content and posts to Instagram depicting a public Persona of entrepreneurial success to his social media followers and other Instagram users, including regular posts about his success attained through investing with alpha. Many of Jeremiah Evans posts specifically solicit engagement from his Instagram following by touting his success and encouraging his followers to invest with alpha. At no time has Jeremiah Evans been licensed in the securities industry.

[Alex Perlman]

All right, so it's only 29,000 more followers than me.

[Mrs. P]

Okay.

[Alex Perlman]

I just want to be mackenzie Evans. Wait, hold on. Let's go back to this, though, because again, this is another one of those things where I don't want to shame the people who fell for it. No, because there is a lot. When it comes down to.

[Mrs. P]

Wait a minute. There is some shame to be had.

[Alex Perlman]

Okay, we'll get to there.

[Mrs. P]

No, no, let me get to you right now.

[Alex Perlman]

Okay.

[Mrs. P]

All those guys that we saw in that promo video. Yeah, Those were the seller affiliates.

[Alex Perlman]

No, I know that.

[Mrs. P]

They get shamed.

[Alex Perlman]

Yeah, they get shame. I'm saying for the people at. The people in the downline who thought, yeah, you know, you fell for a get rich quick scheme or any of these different things. If we shame people for falling for a scam, then the scammers get away with more.

[Mrs. P]

Exactly.

[Alex Perlman]

Because then people don't want to come forward and say, hey, this guy scammed me.

[Mrs. P]

Yeah.

[Alex Perlman]

And so it's very important that even though these are dickheads who had $440,000 that they could put into an automated dropshipping website, at the end of the day, they are victims.

[Mrs. P]

Yeah.

[Alex Perlman]

Now, could they also be landlords? Yes. And for that, we hate them.

[Mrs. P]

Yes, absolutely.

[Alex Perlman]

We hate them for why do you have extra money laying around? But in some of these cases, I'm sure that they're out of 500, 530 people. One of these people took out a home equity line of credit.

[Mrs. P]

Somebody open a credit card. Somebody did something, somebody saying 21% on.

[Alex Perlman]

This, thinking that, that, that Jeremiah the Bull was going to help them. And it sucks, because this man is, is preying on them on Instagram. He's preying on them in social circles, and he's, he's taunting people by saying, look at me. I have 29,000 followers, more than Permania, therefore, you should listen to me more. And I'm here to tell you, I, I, I'm, I'm trying, guys. I will get to 435, 000 Instagram followers. I will, I will defeat this man. And we will, as a people, we will stand on that mountaintop. We will be there on the mountaintop looking at him and saying, look at this man.

[Mrs. P]

Back to the warrant.

[Alex Perlman]

Okay?

[Mrs. P]

Mackenzie Evans is a Utah licensed cosmetologist and spouse of Jeremiah Evans. Mackenzie Evans is an officer, director, and member of several Alpha entities. And she identifies herself as a business partner for Alpha.

[Alex Perlman]

You know what's funny is actually, as a cosmetologist, she probably actually has more business experience than him.

[Mrs. P]

Yeah.

[Alex Perlman]

By actually having to, like, do cosmetology work as an independent contractor for all these different things. Like, I know many cosmetologists is. I don't want to make fun of them.

[Mrs. P]

No. But I went to cosmetology.

[Alex Perlman]

I know you did.

[Mrs. P]

I was asked to leave you.

[Alex Perlman]

I know. We've been over this many times.

[Mrs. P]

I know. I just think people should know. But I didn't drop out. I was asked to leave.

[Alex Perlman]

It's different, but it's one of those things where it's just so funny that they're going through, like, people wouldn't like if they had known that Mackenzie was a cosmetologist. It's like, yeah, she probably is the one who understood how to work the grift.

[Mrs. P]

Yeah.

[Alex Perlman]

And he is just the face.

[Mrs. P]

Let's see, where would I leave off? Okay. Mackenzie Evans is a social media influencer with approximately 12, 300 followers. I need you to know she has 300 more than me.

[Alex Perlman]

Oh, there we go. I just looked it up. I was like, why'd she pause there?

[Mrs. P]

Why did I look at my phone? Because I wanted to see if it. Because she's. Does that.

[Alex Perlman]

Yes.

[Mrs. P]

I'm a social media influencer that speaks.

[Alex Perlman]

To the misogyny of the world. Because the woman behind the woman who's actually running, the one who's writing all the jokes, the one who's doing all the research, people aren't following. People aren't going to follow. Mrs. Pearl Mania. Mrs. Dot Pearlmania500 on Instagram and on Blue sky.

[Mrs. P]

And on Blue Sky. But I like that now if I get 300 more followers, I will then be a social media influencer, according to this warrant. Yeah, perfect.

[Alex Perlman]

I think, Honestly, I think it's. I think it's just a matter say.

[Mrs. P]

I just say. If you say you are, you are.

[Alex Perlman]

Right. Yeah. It's basically what it comes.

[Mrs. P]

One of those things. Yeah. Created, posted. Oh, she created and posted content depicting herself as, quote, a female Alpha. I just.

[Alex Perlman]

I don't know why you need to be female.

[Mrs. P]

I don't. What.

[Alex Perlman]

You could just be Alpha.

[Mrs. P]

Just be Alpha.

[Alex Perlman]

It's just a letter. It's just a letter of the Alphabet.

[Mrs. P]

She regularly posted on Alphabet about the success of Jeremiah and Alpha. And she engaged with her Instagram followers by showing a life of leisure and luxury and repeatedly encouraged her followers to invest in Alpha. At no time has Mackenzie Evans been licensed in the securities industry.

[Alex Perlman]

Love that. Love that for us.

[Mrs. P]

Let's see here. From about July 2019 through at least July 2022, Jeremiah MacKenzie engaged a team of sales agents to sell Alpha investments in exchange for commissions in an affinity fraud scheme, which is a common scheme where those who have affinity or connections, such as followers of social media accounts like Instagram, are targeted and exploited for fraud schemes.

[Alex Perlman]

Okay, okay.

[Mrs. P]

Now it goes through this warrant, goes through the sale agents. Right. Because they're all listed because they needed access to their Instagrams as well. And so there's this guy Dallin, who we saw. He was one of the ones that had, like, multiple gold chains on.

[Alex Perlman]

Okay.

[Mrs. P]

Yeah, he was. He was paid approximately 2.5 million in commissions through all the people he brought in.

[Alex Perlman]

Oh, wow.

[Mrs. P]

Last sentence of course says at no time was Dallin licensed in the securities industry. So like he shouldn't have been doing this. There's this guy, Cole Brimmel, who was contracted as a top sales agent for Alpha. Cole Brimhall was a social media influencer with 9,000 people following his Instagram profile and he was paid approximately $1.2 million million dollars in commission.

[Alex Perlman]

Okay, hold on, let's go back, let's real fast with the numbers. Pardon me, with that, with the follower numbers. I think basically I'm wondering if it's like anything over like a thousand. Yeah, I think like once you're over a thousand, you're, you're an influencer.

[Mrs. P]

It has to be because if you could have 9,000 followers and then make a million, yeah, them you're influencing.

[Alex Perlman]

Why am I working?

[Mrs. P]

We could really start a scam, but we are not going to because we're what decent human being.

[Alex Perlman]

I hate being a decent. I don't want to do it anymore.

[Mrs. P]

There's also Noel Evans who has two L's in her name. Noel. Oh, she is actually Jeremiah's sister and she was also a top sales agent. She was in the video too. She was the other blonde, the one.

[Alex Perlman]

Who'S making 20, 40, 60.

[Mrs. P]

20, 40, 60, that was. She made approximately 550,000 in commission.

[Alex Perlman]

Oh, so maybe she was making 20.

[Mrs. P]

40, 24,060, you know. So let's see the Alpha investment commencing on about July 2019. They got 530 investors basically over the 12 to 18 months that they're looking through in this warrant. These people are being targeted. They're targeting people on Instagram and the people coming to the conventions. And the buy in of the investment is about $40,000. You are absolutely correct.

[Alex Perlman]

Look at me with the math.

[Mrs. P]

Look at you with the math.

[Alex Perlman]

I did the math. That's why 29 more thousand people should follow me.

[Mrs. P]

Jeremiah Evans came up with the idea to create automated turnkey stores which was offered through the Alpha investment so Alpha can have more stores and investors. So he's creating these quote stores and he lied about how long they've been operating. He's like, oh, we've been doing this for years. The initial investment was around 30k, 35k or 40k. That was the usual buy inside and that would be used to create and open an Amazon automated store for the investor that would be ran and operated exclusively by Alpha. So basically give us the money and then we're going to do everything for you.

[Alex Perlman]

Oh, that's not how business works.

[Mrs. P]

That's that is how business works when you're an Alpha.

[Alex Perlman]

That is not how business works. But also, hear me out. This is crazy. So I knew a guy who ran an Amazon store, and what he did is he actually resold DVDs. His whole thing was like, as streaming. Specifically Harry Potter DVDs. That was number one. And so what he would do is he would go on ebay or Amazon or any other places and he would buy used Harry Potter DVDs for 10 cents, a dollar, whatever, and then he sold them as used on Amazon as a certified Amazon reseller for like seven to ten bucks.

[Mrs. P]

Yeah.

[Alex Perlman]

And that was his whole thing.

[Mrs. P]

Yeah.

[Alex Perlman]

And he made like a hundred thousand dollars a year doing that. But, like, the amount of work he had to do to do that, because he had to buy like whole Lots of DVDs.

[Mrs. P]

Yeah.

[Alex Perlman]

And so. And I mean, like, he had to buy lots of. I mean, like a lot. Actual palette of DVDs, and then be like, well, I hope. And so when J.K. rowling.

[Mrs. P]

17 of them aren't die hard.

[Alex Perlman]

When J.K. rowling.

[Mrs. P]

Oh, no.

[Alex Perlman]

Started turning transphobic and going crazy and the numbers started to drop on that. When I was working at the bank, I'll never forget, I was working as a teller. He came in and he. I need. I remember him walking me like, I just need this bitch to shut up. He's like, I'm gonna miss him.

[Mrs. P]

And Disney are like, shut.

[Alex Perlman]

Warner Brothers. Warner Brothers.

[Mrs. P]

Wait, I thought that the Harry Potter ride was at Disney.

[Alex Perlman]

No, it's at Universal. It's Warner Brothers Universal.

[Mrs. P]

Huh? Okay. So in addition to the initial investment funds, investors must also provide additional lines of credit. A 15k, 30k or 50k to be used by Alpha for working capital in its operation of the Amazon automated stores.

[Alex Perlman]

So they need to. They need you to prove that not only do you have $40,000 cash, but we could rip you off up to 55 to 60,000.

[Mrs. P]

Just a little more.

[Alex Perlman]

So we can rip you off to 20, 40, 60, 2046, 2040, 60.

[Mrs. P]

The return generated through the Alpha investment would be entirely passive because Alpha would exclusively manage, operate, select products, price, resell, and ensure order fulfillment.

[Alex Perlman]

These thought they were being landlords on the Internet.

[Mrs. P]

On the Internet. This is.

[Alex Perlman]

This is like those people who tried to buy the Meta properties.

[Mrs. P]

Yes.

[Alex Perlman]

This is 100% like those guys who are like, yeah, it's going to be a virtual reality blockchain property. It'll be worth 80 million, $80 billion by next year alone. And now it's worth like fucking the People like can't give it away. Yeah, nobody fudgeing wants it.

[Mrs. P]

The original investment principle, decentralized, would be recouped within 12 to 18 months. That was the promise.

[Alex Perlman]

Okay.

[Mrs. P]

Alpha investments would generate, quote, consistent, predictable and monthly returns. The investors could expect to earn passive income of 3 to 7k per month or up to 10k per month, with an average of 7 to 10% return on investment per month. After that, there was little to no risk with the investment because Amazon was one of the largest companies in the world and you didn't have any inventory. So it was because it's drop shipping, it's safer.

[Alex Perlman]

Anytime. If anyone ever tells you this is little to no risk, walk away. Yeah, anytime. Just for anyone out there, if anyone ever says that to you, get up and say thank you for your time and walk away.

[Mrs. P]

Or don't just silently look at them and walk away. That's way funnier. The Alpha had. The Alpha Company LLC had connections with high level Amazon executives. That's a promise they made so you wouldn't have any problems. They had a legal team, Alpha, that would resolve any issues that arose from Amazon and 10% of all. I don't know if I made this clear enough, but these are all the promises that Alpha made to the clients. The final premise is that 10% of all revenue collected from Alpha investment by Alpha through the profit sharing agreements will be donated by Alpha LLC to Operation Underground Railroad to fight child sex trafficking across the globe.

[Alex Perlman]

I need a minute. I need a minute. I need a minute.

[Mrs. P]

Yeah. Should we take a break here?

[Alex Perlman]

Yeah, we should take a break. We should. We gotta take a. Yeah, we're take a break.

[Mrs. P]

We should take a break.

[Alex Perlman]

We'll be right back after this. Geico's motorcycle expertise means I'm covered by.

[Mrs. P]

People who know bikes like I do.

[Alex Perlman]

I'm happy as a clam.

[Geico Voiceover]

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[Alex Perlman]

It just meant that I feel really good about my coverage.

[Geico Voiceover]

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[Mrs. P]

Okay, we're back real quick.

[Alex Perlman]

So him claiming they're gonna give 10% to Operation Underground Railroad is again, very 20, 22.

[Mrs. P]

Yeah.

[Alex Perlman]

Remember, there was that movie where they were like, all these kids. All these kids are being trapped. It was all the QAnon, like float over stuff that they don't talk about anymore now.

[Mrs. P]

No, I can't.

[Alex Perlman]

Because it was a scam. It was all a scam.

[Mrs. P]

Yeah.

[Alex Perlman]

And then all the guys involved that were always like, I'm doing all this different stuff. We're trying to protect the children. Every single one of them ended up being, you know.

[Mrs. P]

You know who was one of those people?

[Alex Perlman]

Who?

[Mrs. P]

Brittany Dawn's husband.

[Alex Perlman]

Oh.

[Mrs. P]

He's one of the people that was like flying across the world to help.

[Alex Perlman]

Yeah.

[Mrs. P]

Trafficking victims. It was. It was all a scam. We should. A whole episode, honestly. But it's like so hard to discuss because there are real victims that they're.

[Alex Perlman]

Extreme exploiting and there are real organizations that actually help people.

[Mrs. P]

Yeah. And that's. That company wasn't one of them.

[Alex Perlman]

Like the national center for Missing and Exploited Children.

[Mrs. P]

Yes.

[Alex Perlman]

Which was. Nearly had all of its funding cut when the new White House just shut off funding at random one day. And they were like, what? What do we have lights?

[Mrs. P]

Okay.

[Alex Perlman]

Okay.

[Mrs. P]

Oh, my God. So, hi. I'm gonna try to get back on track now.

[Alex Perlman]

Okay. Can anyone. Can America.

[Mrs. P]

No, not right. Listen, we're working. We're trying right now. You gotta quit it, mister. Okay, so real quick, from. I printed out a few pages from the warrant because I just wanted to show you. So you can show the people watching on YouTube and you can audio describe because it's Audio Forward podcast. Audio Forward podcast some of the screenshots that the government pulled of the Instagram posts that they were making about this alpha business.

[Alex Perlman]

Okay.

[Mrs. P]

Okay. I think you're gonna like the images.

[Alex Perlman]

Okay, let's see.

[Mrs. P]

Paper.

[Alex Perlman]

That's paper.

[Mrs. P]

Double sided, baby.

[Alex Perlman]

First one, it says the average cost of starting a business in the US is $300,000. Or you can invest 40k in a done for you Amazon store and make 3-7k per month passively. And then there's pictures of Amazon Automation.

[Mrs. P]

You've seen these Instagram ads.

[Alex Perlman]

I've never seen these.

[Mrs. P]

Oh, I've seen these. They come up whenever the algorithm.

[Alex Perlman]

Oh, these are stories. These are images of stories up there about automation and other things that they have. And then on the back, there's pictures of the bull.

[Mrs. P]

There he is.

[Alex Perlman]

There's the bull throwing up the horns.

[Mrs. P]

He's like, look at this.

[Alex Perlman]

Why Jeremiah Evans empowers young entrepreneurs through his investment firm. And then we have more pictures of.

[Mrs. P]

Not licensed.

[Alex Perlman]

Jeremiah can't actually. $120,000. It's just him again, Mr. Beast lettering.

[Mrs. P]

Yep.

[Alex Perlman]

While he said they love a Mr. Beast lettering while he's talking. That's definitely. That was definitely cap cut. Because this one is the one where when you say things like millionaire, it shows money with angel wings.

[Mrs. P]

Wow.

[Alex Perlman]

I know my. I know my editing softwares.

[Mrs. P]

Yeah.

[Alex Perlman]

And then, yeah, here's more Rip Cap cut. Yeah. And then there's month five. Store is killing it. And then they have the Bull Evans Alpha Creed. Does your side hustle produce 28k in revenue in 5 months? And then there's just a picture of a chart. Just a picture of a chart. I have no idea what that chart's tied to.

[Mrs. P]

They just typed in chart. Yeah, GPT.

[Alex Perlman]

And they say on this one day you made 8K. But as you move up, there's a lot less.

[Mrs. P]

Listen, okay, so in closing of this episode, he already pleaded guilty. There's gonna be sentencing in April.

[Alex Perlman]

Okay.

[Mrs. P]

Okay.

[Alex Perlman]

So there's no allegedly buttons because, yeah, everything we read here I pulled from court docs. Yeah. I mean, honestly, when it. You know, the only time I could have possibly hit allegedly was talking about MC&C's terrible roots. But we all have eyes, so there's no alleged there.

[Mrs. P]

Also, you're a hairdresser. What's going on? So, I mean, just melt the roots. Anyway, while I was reading the warrant, in there, they have a little line Item Addendum number 44, if you will. They say they. They go in about how he spent the money.

[Alex Perlman]

Oh, okay.

[Mrs. P]

Some of it. Some of it.

[Alex Perlman]

These are my favorite. I love finding out that how the money was spent. Was it spent all completely on podcast microphones?

[Mrs. P]

No, I wish. Oh, my God. My podcast microphone just dropped. Approximately 5.3 million, or about 25% of the initial investment funds were used by Jeremiah and MacKenzie to fund lavish lifestyle. For example, and without limitation, initial investment funds from Alpha accounts were used by Jeremiah McKenzie to purchase the following. So I have a list here.

[Alex Perlman]

Tell me.

[Mrs. P]

And I'm going to go through it. And then here's what happened because again, it's me. I'm like, well, what is this? Because it says a luxury goods valued at approximately $70,000 from gentlemen timepieces out of Dallas, Texas.

[Alex Perlman]

Okay, That's a watches watch.

[Mrs. P]

So. But then here's the thing. I went and I looked up Gentlemen Timepieces. Let me tell you what I found. Okay? Gentlemen Timepieces. I found a link. This is what the link says. Founder of Beverly Hills Gentlemen Timepieces, Consignment store charge with conning victims in a luxury watch Ponzi type scheme from the Internal Revenue Service website.

[Alex Perlman]

Wait, so he's a con man who's buying watches from con men?

[Mrs. P]

Let me read to you from the IRS website. This is alleged because it hasn't been convicted yet. Anthony Farrer, known as Gentleman Timepieces, was arrested by FBI agents on charges of defrauding customers of his luxury watch consignment business. He was charged in a federal criminal complaint of wire fraud, a felony that carries statutory maximum sentence of 20 years in federal prison. Farrer was known as the Timepiece Gentleman, was arrested without incident at a storage facility in Venice. Farrer found the company in Texas in 2017 and opened a location in Beverly Hills in 2022. Farrer used his business to connect purchasers and sellers of high end watches. He would typically collect a watch from an individual and have them sign a consignment agreement. And he would get a commission, typically 5%. This complaint alleges that far or defrauded victims beginning in late 2022 until the summer of 2023, when he promised customers he would sell luxury watches on consignment. Rather than remitting funds back to the customers, less the commission, he kept the proceeds for himself. Farr lived a luxury rent. He lived in a luxury rental property and was known to drive a Lamborghini and a Ducati. He traveled frequently to Las Vegas and engaged in gambling. To date, law enforcement estimates that the victim's losses currently total approximately $3 million.

[Alex Perlman]

In watches in watches.

[Mrs. P]

The investigation is ongoing and law enforcement is in the process of identifying additional victims.

[Alex Perlman]

So he convinced people to send him a watch and said, I will sell your watch for you for a percentage. And then if he sold the watch, he just never gave them any money. Yeah, no, I'm still trying to sell.

[Mrs. P]

But it started in 2022 because he had this business from 2017. Yeah, yeah, but I'm not going to sign. But like gambling, going to Vegas all the time when you're Ducati.

[Alex Perlman]

Yeah, but also, like, that's the other thing that gets me too, is like.

[Mrs. P]

He got Bruno Mars.

[Alex Perlman]

I know, but also it's one of those things that's like, why do you need a Lamborghini? Like, again, they aren't like, they aren't normal cars.

[Mrs. P]

Yeah.

[Alex Perlman]

Like with the baby, somebody even like pointed. Like, if you try to even get me into a Lamborghini right now, I would laugh in your face.

[Mrs. P]

No way.

[Alex Perlman]

Like, it makes no sense.

[Mrs. P]

I got things to live for.

[Alex Perlman]

Oh my God also.

[Mrs. P]

Okay, one of the other things they spent the money on, they spent $320,000 on one mission nutrition, which I looked up. Okay, One mission nutrition.

[Alex Perlman]

This is gonna be like Christian protein shakes.

[Mrs. P]

You're so. Oh my God.

[Alex Perlman]

Am I right?

[Mrs. P]

We've been doing this too long.

[Alex Perlman]

Am I right?

[Mrs. P]

We nailed it. First try. It's a supplement and protein powder company. Their bio line says God, family, country, and it's protein powders and supplements.

[Alex Perlman]

I. Oh my God.

[Mrs. P]

They. They have like. They use the flag logo with one of the stripes. It's like guns or something. You know the one?

[Alex Perlman]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's little crosses instead of.

[Mrs. P]

He invested $320,000 in that.

[Alex Perlman]

And that is also probably a scam.

[Mrs. P]

Allegedly. I couldn't find it.

[Alex Perlman]

I hit the button.

[Mrs. P]

I couldn't find anything. Allegedly.

[Alex Perlman]

But also, it just feels like this is. It feels like he's so deep into scams that he can only see like his algorithm now is scams on scams on scams. So he doesn't even get ads for normal things anymore. Himself. He's been scamming so hard that the scammers are only see other scammers. Like, it's scamception. It's scamception.

[Mrs. P]

He also invested $50,000 in a company called Wags Capital W A G S Which I was like wives and girls, wives and girlfriends.

[Alex Perlman]

Instantly, I was like, wives and girlfriends.

[Mrs. P]

I was like, we're investing in the wives and girlfriends. Which, I mean, in 2020, I would.

[Alex Perlman]

I know, but that was before Taylor.

[Mrs. P]

Before Taylor.

[Alex Perlman]

So who will root for the Philadelphia Eagles? Or we will disown her?

[Mrs. P]

No. Okay, listen.

[Alex Perlman]

The Philadelphia Eagles are going to the Super Bowl. Every listener we talked about on our.

[Mrs. P]

Podcast, the warm up, every pro maniac is an Eagles fan.

[Alex Perlman]

Yeah.

[Mrs. P]

Automatically not accept Chiefs fans. Well, unless you're from.

[Alex Perlman]

If you're from Kansas City or you grew up in your connection, I guess you're fine. But if you're a band. Yeah.

[Mrs. P]

Everybody else Eagles fan. Okay. They invested $50,000 in Wags Capital.

[Alex Perlman]

What is.

[Mrs. P]

I'm like, what the is wax capital? Okay, so WAGS capital is a Utah based food venture company. And the reason I found this out is on their website. They were been charged with federal fraud charges as well. Aaron Wagner, own owner of Wags Capital now faces a felony count of wire fraud. Fired last week in U. S. District court accusing him of misusing $2 million. According to the complaint to defraud private investors and lenders in restaurant business management by Wags Cap Food, the investment firm he helps manage. Specifically, $2 million of the complaint was not used to build hello, Sugar restaurants as intended.

[Alex Perlman]

Hello?

[Mrs. P]

But to help cover the cost of a $8.3 million airplane he bought, the complaint alleges a Ponzi like operation. Wagner and his associates, it charges, would use funds from more recent investors to fund a separate failing project or an earlier group of investors that included himself or his own entities in order to conceal the fact that he had already squandered or diverted the investors money.

[Alex Perlman]

Was that the plane from the video?

[Mrs. P]

It could have been.

[Alex Perlman]

That might be the plane from the video.

[Mrs. P]

Yeah, it could be.

[Alex Perlman]

I know because in the video, when we watched the video at the beginning, he kept showing him in a private plane.

[Mrs. P]

Yeah.

[Alex Perlman]

The plane was not flying.

[Mrs. P]

That could be Aaron Wagner's plane. Yeah, among other accidents.

[Alex Perlman]

Hold on, hold on. Again. Why do you need a plane? Just fly.

[Mrs. P]

American Airlines like the rest of us.

[Alex Perlman]

Spirit, anything. Fuck them. No, these people. These guys deserve to fly. Spirit. Okay. Frontier. I want these Mormon shitheads to take Frontier Airlines out of Philadelphia to Puerto Rico.

[Mrs. P]

That. Okay, baby, We've done it. It's a septibus in the sky.

[Alex Perlman]

They do. The seats do not recline.

[Mrs. P]

It's. It's a. It's a fun ride. Yeah, but it costs, like, $50.

[Alex Perlman]

Yeah, except that they start up charging you every moment as you get closer to, like, how.

[Mrs. P]

How heavy are your shoes?

[Alex Perlman]

Yeah, yeah. It. By the time the upcharges, seems like you're wearing pants.

[Mrs. P]

That was the way on those.

[Alex Perlman]

By the time the upcharges were done, it was the same price as American.

[Mrs. P]

Should have just got an American Airlines. Here's something I want to tell you about Aaron. Okay. Among other activities, Aaron Wagner from. Aaron Wagner from Wags.

[Alex Perlman]

Okay.

[Mrs. P]

Who was running a Ponzi scheme based on investing in restaurants in Utah. Allegedly. Thank you. He also spoke at a convention in 2022.

[Alex Perlman]

Was it alpha Con?

[Mrs. P]

He spoke at Alpha Con in 2022. A gathering. This is. This is a quote from this website. Wagner spoke at a 2022 alpha con, a gathering of a parent, quote, Alpha males, where he spoke of his pursuit of the American dream. During it, he spoke about how he played at the Rose Bowl. I remember walking into the stadium in Pasadena, the Rose Bowl, 114,000 roaring fans. I walk through the tunnel. I stand there, and I'm like, this is exactly what I said I was gonna do. And I remember back when I was cut from the volleyball team in ninth grade, sitting on the stairs with My mom crying, thinking my life was over, and her saying that everything happens for a reason. Now, in another podcast, Aaron Wagner said, quote, I had tears streaming down my face. And every time I think about it, playing the Rose bowl, it's like the same feeling. Right. Because it was just so incredible to know that at that moment I was powerful. And then I could do anything I put my mind to that I wanted. No matter what was against me, the deck stacked against me. I got no money, I got no resources. I come to this country with literally nothing. He's from Canada, and I could make this happen. And at this moment, I knew I could do anything that I ever wanted to do in this life. Let me push my page up on my Google Doc. Wagner has never played in the Rose bowl, as evidenced by checks of the official game roster and discussions with former coaches and teammates. I just. I just thought it was so crazy to bother lying about football. He did play for byu, though. He's from Canada and he went to BYU and he played football, but he was never played in the Rose Bowl.

[Alex Perlman]

Yeah.

[Mrs. P]

And then he admitted that he never played in the Rose Bowl. Why are we lying about football? Alpha guys.

[Alex Perlman]

Because they don't think that any. This is the thing is, like, these scams used to work back in the day for longer.

[Mrs. P]

Yeah.

[Alex Perlman]

Because you could just move three towns over.

[Mrs. P]

Yeah.

[Alex Perlman]

And no one would follow you because they didn't have a horse.

[Mrs. P]

Yeah. And I didn't have access to Reddit.

[Alex Perlman]

Yeah. But also, like, and Google, Department of Justice. Well, all these different things, like, all these different things, like, were not available.

[Mrs. P]

Okay. So also one of the other investments they made was 250 thousand dollars in a real estate investment company called Axia Capital. The CEO of development of that real estate investment company, Aaron Wagner.

[Alex Perlman]

So it's just scams on scams. This is just. We're just stacking scams.

[Mrs. P]

Okay, let's talk about.

[Alex Perlman]

This is a layer cake of shit.

[Mrs. P]

What? Another investment I wanted to talk to you about. They. They.

[Alex Perlman]

Real quick. Real quick.

[Mrs. P]

Okay.

[Alex Perlman]

I just want to touch on this to our listeners out there. I know some of y'all have had this experience where you've been at a place and you've seen really the. Remember the Ed Hardy shirts? Yeah, I remember back in like 2006, 2007, like being at a bar, the Ed Hardy shirt type of bros would show up.

[Mrs. P]

Jersey Shore, baby.

[Alex Perlman]

And. Or that. But they'd have, like in a BMW, they'd have these expensive cars. They'd be like, without there. And they're spending all this money, all this different shit. This is always them. Yeah, it's always this. They're always scamming somebody and they're always right on the verge of losing everything.

[Mrs. P]

Yeah.

[Alex Perlman]

And God damn. God damn. Is it so funny that they're also scamming each other at the same.

[Mrs. P]

It's incredible that these are. These are like frenemies. They're all friends with each other, but enemies. Oh, incredible. Okay. Another. I got a lot of enemies. One of the last investments that was made. Investments, a strong word. Yeah, they. $250,000, which again, what an incredible amount of money to just throw at something. Yeah, they. I don't want to say they don't. They donated. They. They put money, that much money towards a production credit on a docu series for a program called the Nazarene Fund for a movie they were producing called the Hidden War. I bet you can guess what it's about.

[Alex Perlman]

It's about Jesus.

[Mrs. P]

Guess who is the founder of the Nazarene Fund.

[Alex Perlman]

Who's the founder of the Nazarene Fund? Yeah. Is it Wagner?

[Mrs. P]

Glenn Beck.

[Alex Perlman]

They're making up. Okay, so that. Okay. Glenn Beck, huh? For those y'all who don't know who Glenn Beck is, I envy you. I envy your blessed life. Oh, my God. Glenn Beck is a. He is a right wing conservative commentator and scammer.

[Mrs. P]

Yeah.

[Alex Perlman]

He is constantly scamming people. When Donald. So he was during the Obama administration. He had a show on cnn. Eventually he went, moved over to Fox. He is an adult convert to Mormonism. I know that because I remember someone in my life being like, that's weird to do as an adult. Yeah, like, just weird.

[Mrs. P]

It's like JD Vance becoming an adult Catholic. Yeah.

[Alex Perlman]

Yeah. It's an odd born in.

[Mrs. P]

Or that's it.

[Alex Perlman]

Yeah, kind of. And that's kind of like with Mormonism now. It's like, it's odd to be, to be like tricked into it now. But with Glenn Beck, one of his big things was when Trump first got elected, Glenn Beck started acting like, oh, maybe conservatism. Like maybe we did it wrong because he was like, oh, something. Trump's different now. He's 100% pro Trump.

[Mrs. P]

Trump.

[Alex Perlman]

And because he's always been a Christian nationalist, he's always been like all these different things.

[Mrs. P]

Let me read you the mission statement. No, the Nazarene Fund.

[Alex Perlman]

Yeah.

[Mrs. P]

Is a nonprofit that he started.

[Alex Perlman]

I'm sure it is. I'm sure it's a great place to hide taxes.

[Mrs. P]

Fund mission.

[Alex Perlman]

Yeah.

[Mrs. P]

To liberate the Captive to free the enslaved and rescue, rebuild and restore the lives of Christians and other persecuted religious and ethnic minorities wherever and whenever they are in need.

[Alex Perlman]

Okay, sure. Yeah, sure.

[Mrs. P]

They go to the Middle east and try to save Christians. Allegedly.

[Alex Perlman]

This is a. This is a. This is a Christian victims fund.

[Mrs. P]

Yeah, exactly.

[Alex Perlman]

This is. We. We need to believe that we're being victimized and oppressed as Christians. So we have found. We've created a fund since it doesn't happen to us here in America. Yeah, we've created a fund and then we pretend to go to Syria. Yeah, we ignore all the Christians in Gaza, though. We'll never mention them. No, we'll never mention Christian Palestinians ever. Well, they'll never mention them.

[Mrs. P]

Nope. I didn't see it on their website.

[Alex Perlman]

Okay.

[Mrs. P]

I didn't really go into it. I got really upset at the website. Yeah, yeah, it was gross. But yeah, so it's up.

[Alex Perlman]

But it's up there with the same.

[Mrs. P]

Also. But buying a production credit is crazy.

[Alex Perlman]

No, but it's up there with. With the trafficking. Like. Like the stopping.

[Mrs. P]

No, it's exactly the same.

[Alex Perlman]

I know. I'm saying it's the same thing as this idea of there's this international co. Of. Of traffickers that only you can stop by dressing up like you're in the movie Sicario or that you have to also be Rambo to go over to save Christians that are being persecuted in all of these countries across the Middle East. Like, it's just like there are things that are happening but nowhere near the scale of what they're saying. And their ideas don't work.

[Mrs. P]

Yeah.

[Alex Perlman]

It is just a giant scam that they can use as a tax dodge and that they can then also use to wield as a cudgel when they see a politician that doesn't immediately hop onto their tax dodge because then they can yell, you don't actually care about Christians or you don't actually care about the children or you don't care about any of these other things while they themselves don't give a. About any of this because they're spending all the money on private planes.

[Mrs. P]

Yeah. So they bought that production credit, but then I think the docuseries never happened, so they. They just threw 250 down the drain.

[Alex Perlman]

Crazy quarter million dollars dollars.

[Mrs. P]

And then also they spent 161,000.

[Alex Perlman]

By the way, that's a school. Just real quick. Sorry. I'm just. Sorry. That's like a class. That's like multiple classrooms in a school. Yeah, you could fund multiple classrooms at a school. For children.

[Mrs. P]

But we just gave it to Glenn Beck. He seems like he knows what he's doing.

[Alex Perlman]

Yeah, it's great. Where's a cardigan like a bitch?

[Mrs. P]

Spent 161,000 on personal residence and over $550,000 on luxury vehicles. Okay, that's it. That's the end of my story time.

[Alex Perlman]

Okay.

[Mrs. P]

That's where I leave it. Glenn Beck lies about football. Alpha, omega, beta, other things.

[Alex Perlman]

Lambda lambda. They're skipping lambda.

[Mrs. P]

I did.

[Alex Perlman]

It's right there in the middle of. I used to actually know how to, like, do the Greek Alphabet.

[Mrs. P]

Probably beat it in me.

[Alex Perlman]

Yeah. But it was like I used my Alphabet again. Delta, epsilon phase. I've. Pardon me, but I remember, like, there's like a cadence to it. I could remember, but it's just so funny to me. All these guys, they always end up going Greek. And I'm like, you guys want to be.

[Mrs. P]

You want to pretend, like, kiss some boys.

[Alex Perlman]

Kiss a boy.

[Mrs. P]

Kiss some boys. We said, mlm, baby.

[Alex Perlman]

Yeah. Get the olive oil. Get the olive oil. Get up in there. It's not gay as long as you hold eye contact. That is platonic love. It's only gay if you don't hold eye contact.

[Mrs. P]

What?

[Alex Perlman]

I'm serious.

[Mrs. P]

Okay.

[Alex Perlman]

That's part of, like. That's part of the philosophy. Oh, really? Yeah. No, you had to actually, like, you could have sex, but you have to have eye contact.

[Mrs. P]

Yeah.

[Alex Perlman]

Okay, if. If you're not looking in the eyes, then you're using them.

[Mrs. P]

Yeah. Things you learn on our podcast about MLMs.

[Alex Perlman]

Too many tabs. There's no virgin in extra virgin olive oil.

[Mrs. P]

Everybody have a great week.

[Alex Perlman]

We have to do the shout outs. Oh, right, we're going to the Patreon shout outs.

[Mrs. P]

My brain is fried.

[Alex Perlman]

No, it's fine.

[Mrs. P]

Coffee crashed me. I put sugar in it, and now I'm on the other end.

[Alex Perlman]

Listen, it's a longer episode. We've done a lot. We've covered a lot.

[Mrs. P]

Yeah.

[Alex Perlman]

Okay. And y'all, you've been covered a lot. And we were going to say thank you to our Patreons who have recently joined us, and we're going to sprinkle in some other lore.

[Mrs. P]

And if you want to join our not mlm, not Ponzi scheme, definitely not a down shaped downline.

[Alex Perlman]

Yeah. You can join [e-mail] and you can hear all of the new people who've just joined us, all of their very funny names, and also what to write in the comments right after this. Geico's motorcycle expertise Gives me the coverage I need. Like 24. Seven claims. I'm on cloud nine.

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[Alex Perlman]

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[Alex Perlman]

500 net. Here we are again, Mrs. P. I'm ready. I'm so excited.

[Mrs. P]

Oh, the video's back on the screen.

[Alex Perlman]

Oh, yeah, no, that's.

[Mrs. P]

I'd watch it again.

[Alex Perlman]

No.

[Mrs. P]

So entertaining.

[Alex Perlman]

Because I had to pull up the spreadsheet with all of our new friends. Yeah, because once. Once you join our downline, I consider you a personal friend.

[Mrs. P]

Yeah. No, let's parasocial it up.

[Alex Perlman]

Let's parasocial it up. I.

[Mrs. P]

You know, I think I broke my mic.

[Alex Perlman]

Can I tell you, we worked really hard to make sure people know we're like, I don't have a parasocial with us. And like all different things and try to be. And then I'm, like, looking. I'm like, oh, man. These people have parasocial relationships. They. They live lavish lives. They have planes. Let's go ahead and welcoming some people. Starting out, we have Ellen K. After that, we have the underscore. Real underscore Kim. Underscore Shady.

[Mrs. P]

That's nice.

[Alex Perlman]

The real skim Shady.

[Mrs. P]

That's real Kim Shady.

[Alex Perlman]

The real Kim Shady.

[Mrs. P]

I like that. I know. You're in my specific age group.

[Alex Perlman]

Hey, hon, after that, we have Bianca Maxwell. Hey, hon, after that, we have Nicole.

[Mrs. P]

Hey, Nicole.

[Alex Perlman]

After that, we have Spungar.

[Mrs. P]

Wait, Spungar?

[Alex Perlman]

That's what it says. It says Spungar.

[Mrs. P]

I like that.

[Alex Perlman]

Hey, hon, that's spelled S, P U, N G A, R. I like it. Spun guard spelled a lot better than McKenzie. After that, we have Alyssa G. Hey, hon, after that, we have Dana Marie Ruckert. Hey, hon, after that we have Deneen.

[Mrs. P]

Deneen. It's like Janine with a D. It's.

[Alex Perlman]

Like Janine with a D. I like a Deneen.

[Mrs. P]

Deneen.

[Alex Perlman]

That's good. I like it.

[Mrs. P]

Yeah.

[Alex Perlman]

After that, we have Tammy on.

[Mrs. P]

Hey, Tammy.

[Alex Perlman]

Up next, we have a underscore. Tired, underscore librarian.

[Mrs. P]

I Can't even imagine.

[Alex Perlman]

I can't even. I just want to say we've gotten a lot of messages from people. We talked about it on the warm Up. For all of you who are joining us and hearing your name, you can listen to the warm up, our Para social Patreon exclusive Pearl Maniac podcast.

[Mrs. P]

Damn.

[Alex Perlman]

Where we. We've been going through the messages that we get from people on Patreon. And there's a lot of people who have federal funding for their jobs or have a federal job who are going through a lot right now.

[Mrs. P]

Yeah.

[Alex Perlman]

And. Jesus Christ.

[Mrs. P]

Yeah.

[Alex Perlman]

It's a lot. And so to the librarians out there, to anybody else who just. Just wants to help their community and the country, thank you for your service. Yes, thank you for your service.

[Mrs. P]

We appreciate you.

[Alex Perlman]

Up next, Elizabeth.

[Mrs. P]

What up? Sometimes I gotta get him.

[Alex Perlman]

I gotta get me different. Hey, hon. After that we have Foxy Woxy and Socksies.

[Mrs. P]

Oh, hey. What? Have you been reading books with us?

[Alex Perlman]

Foxy Woxy and Socksies. After that we have secret breakfast toast.

[Mrs. P]

Okay. Hell yeah.

[Alex Perlman]

Hey, hon, after that we have Lovely Lou.

[Mrs. P]

Hey, hon.

[Alex Perlman]

After that we have Lawless. Underscore is underscore. My underscore. Last underscore name.

[Mrs. P]

Nice.

[Alex Perlman]

Wait a second. Lawless is your last name, like Lucy Lawless? Are you from New Zealand? I'm going to assume this is Lucy Lawless. It. I'm gonna. You know what? Don't tell me. I don't want to know.

[Mrs. P]

It's definitely Lucy Lawless.

[Alex Perlman]

I have to assume it's Lucy Lawless.

[Mrs. P]

Absolutely. Lucy Lawless.

[Alex Perlman]

Rosario Dawson follows both of us on Instagram.

[Mrs. P]

So famous.

[Alex Perlman]

Check to make sure she doesn't follow Jeremiah the Bull. I need to have that over. No, I'm good. Because we have Lucy Lawless. Lucy Lawless is my last name. After that we have Snarky Mike.

[Mrs. P]

Hey, Mike.

[Alex Perlman]

Hey. He's snarky. After that we have James G. Hey, hon. After that we have Betty Bismarck.

[Mrs. P]

Hey, Betty. That's pretty.

[Alex Perlman]

What a great name.

[Mrs. P]

Betty Bismarck's a good name.

[Alex Perlman]

That feels like a roller derby name.

[Mrs. P]

Yeah, I love a roller derby.

[Alex Perlman]

Betty coming in with the elbow, it's Betty Bismarck. After that we have Kenneth Weaver.

[Mrs. P]

Hey, hon.

[Alex Perlman]

After that we have Deathly.

[Mrs. P]

Yeah, just deathly. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I get that.

[Alex Perlman]

Yeah. No, I get it.

[Mrs. P]

It's real facts. Big facts.

[Alex Perlman]

After that we have Dakota Mullins. Hey, hon, this next one, boom me with the underscores. You ready for it? I'm underscore. Not underscore. A underscore. Regular underscore. Mom. Underscore. I'm underscore A underscore Middle underscore age. Underscore. Millennial. Underscore mom.

[Mrs. P]

I know that life. Hey, hon.

[Alex Perlman]

Yeah. You're not a regular mom. You're a middle aged millennial.

[Mrs. P]

Yeah, Bones hurt.

[Alex Perlman]

It also sucks because remember when it didn't suck.

[Mrs. P]

Yep.

[Alex Perlman]

That's the part that really hurts, is sometimes I'm looking at the kid and I'm like, oh, buddy.

[Mrs. P]

Yeah, it's okay. We're all. We're all fine. We just gotta keep stretching so we can. In 10 years, I'm gonna be 50.

[Alex Perlman]

Yeah. All right. I just. I just try to lift solely with my lower back.

[Mrs. P]

Yeah, that's right.

[Alex Perlman]

You should keep.

[Mrs. P]

Do that.

[Alex Perlman]

All 32 pounds of them.

[Mrs. P]

Yeah.

[Alex Perlman]

Up next, we have Briley Hull.

[Mrs. P]

Hey, hon.

[Alex Perlman]

After that, we have Melanie Speller.

[Mrs. P]

Hey, hon.

[Alex Perlman]

Lilith Page.

[Mrs. P]

Oh, hey, hon.

[Alex Perlman]

And finally, Natalie Kangas.

[Mrs. P]

Hey, Natalie.

[Alex Perlman]

Hey, how are you? Hey.

[Mrs. P]

Hey to everybody. Thanks for joining.

[Alex Perlman]

That's our people.

[Mrs. P]

I'm excited for you to listen to all of our. Our super awesome Patreon content. Yeah, you gotta listen to all the cooking with the food idiots.

[Alex Perlman]

Yeah, we didn't even talk about how there's a new cooking the food idiot that was out chicken soup for our family.

[Mrs. P]

The comments people are really excited about it.

[Alex Perlman]

And honestly, the best way to join anyone stick around who hasn't joined the Patreons. But thinking about it, it's really just to join our community so you can comment on the show with the fellow tabbers and pearl maniacs.

[Mrs. P]

Yeah, it's a great vibe. Comments, actually a great vibe on our.

[Alex Perlman]

Patreon, one of the few elite comment sections that is out there. So thank you to all of our listeners. So let's give everybody a comment that they can write on either the YouTube or the Patreon. Mrs. P. And I want to say that this is the comment. I want you guys to get down there and to write. I want you to write. It's time. Ready? Grab that bull by the horns. Grab that bull by the horn.

[Mrs. P]

No moment that. I know what you were gonna say, but that is. Yep. Grab the bull by the horns. Write it in the comments, y'all.

[Alex Perlman]

And that's been this week's episode. We'll see you guys next week for a whole new episode of too many tabs, too many frauds, and too many scammers that we wish weren't real. Too many cons and too many spammers that were. We're starting to feel like we've got too many tabs.

[Mrs. P]

Open it.

[Alex Perlman]

Too many tabs. Remember to smile. Geico's motorcycle expertise means I'm covered by.

[Mrs. P]

People who know bikes like I do.

[Alex Perlman]

I'm happy as a clam.

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[Alex Perlman]

It just meant that I feel really good about my coverage.

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[Mrs. P]

Ew.

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