The Death and Resurrection of TikTok | Too Many Tabs Podcast 3.06

Summary

Podcast Summary: "The Death and Resurrection of TikTok" | Too Many Tabs Podcast 3.06

Podcast Information:

• Title: Too Many Tabs with Pearlmania500
• Host/Author: Pearlmania500
• Episode: The Death and Resurrection of TikTok | Episode 3.06
• Release Date: January 26, 2025

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Introduction

In Episode 3.06 of Too Many Tabs with Pearlmania500, hosts Pearlmania500 and Mrs. P delve into the tumultuous events surrounding the temporary ban and subsequent resurrection of TikTok in the United States. The episode, titled "The Death and Resurrection of TikTok," extends beyond the platform's immediate fate to explore broader themes about the internet, social media communication, and the evolving landscape of digital interactions.

The Sudden Ban and Immediate Return of TikTok

[00:28] Podcast Host 1 (Pearlmania500): "On January 18, 2025, at 10:30 PM EST, every TikTok user in the U.S. received a push notification stating that TikTok was banned. For 14 hours, users were left in uncertainty, wondering where the TikTok community would migrate—whether to Instagram Reels or YouTube Shorts."

[05:45] Podcast Host 1: "The ban lasted only 14 hours, ending at 12:30 PM EST on January 19th, with TikTok returning to the U.S. This rapid reversal sparked confusion and frustration among users who had invested time and emotional energy into the platform."

Exploring the Impact on Users and Community

The hosts discuss the psychological impact of the ban, likening it to addictive behaviors and the fear of losing access to a beloved community. They share personal anecdotes about their attempts to preserve their TikTok activity before the ban took effect.

[07:28] Podcast Host 2 (Mrs. P): "Scrolling through TikTok during the ban felt like being stuck in a loop, similar to underage drinking—constantly awaiting the next opportunity, not knowing when it would end."

[09:24] Podcast Host 1: "Updates regarding the ban were pervasive, with push notifications and messages claiming the permanence of the shutdown. However, the use of the word 'temporary' instilled a sense of resilience and anticipation for TikTok's return."

Political Maneuvering and Conspiracy Theories

The episode delves into the political underpinnings of the TikTok ban, highlighting President Trump's involvement and the ensuing conspiracy theories that emerged during the platform's downtime.

[18:35] Podcast Host 1: "The executives' primary goal was to save TikTok, knowing that if Joe Biden signed the ban, the platform's fate was sealed. Trump's intervention via a post on Truth Social purportedly influenced Oracle and other data partners to reinstate TikTok, though the exact mechanics remain unclear."

[24:34] Podcast Host 1: "Conspiracy theorists quickly emerged, suggesting that TikTok's servers were switched to Meta during the downtime, leading to rampant speculation about state control and hidden agendas."

The Emergence of the Dead Internet Theory

A significant portion of the discussion revolves around the "Dead Internet Theory," which posits that much of the internet is now dominated by bots rather than genuine human interaction.

[52:42] Podcast Host 1: "The Dead Internet Theory suggests that since 2016 or 2017, the majority of online interactions are orchestrated by bots. The rollout of advanced AI models like ChatGPT has exacerbated this belief, as conversational bots become indistinguishable from human users."

[55:12] Podcast Host 1: "These bots are designed to sow discord and undermine human confidence, creating feedback loops where bots interact with each other to amplify negativity and suppress genuine discourse."

Eulogizing Other Social Media Platforms

In a creative twist, the hosts transition to eulogizing other social media platforms, reflecting on their rise and fall. They touch upon MySpace, Facebook, and Pinterest, discussing how each platform met its demise through various means—be it acquisition, lack of innovation, or government intervention.

MySpace:

• [36:59] Podcast Host 2: "MySpace was once the elite platform due to its high level of customization, requiring users to know basic HTML. Its decline began after being sold to Rupert Murdoch's News Corp, which failed to innovate effectively."

Facebook:

• [43:04] Podcast Host 1: "Originally an invite-only platform exclusive to Ivy League colleges, Facebook expanded rapidly but faced backlash with the Cambridge Analytica scandal in 2017. The misuse of user data for political manipulation led to widespread distrust, prompting the hosts to delete their Facebook accounts."

Pinterest:

• [49:50] Podcast Host 2: "Pinterest once served as a calming repository of beautiful images. However, the integration of AI has degraded user experience, inundating the platform with less desirable content and advertisements."

The Future of Digital Interaction

The hosts express concern over the increasing dominance of AI in online interactions and the potential consequences for genuine human communication. They advocate for a return to more authentic, real-world interactions as a safeguard against the manipulative nature of AI-driven platforms.

[65:08] Podcast Host 1: "As the Dead Internet Theory suggests, the majority of online interactions may not be genuine. To preserve authenticity, it's crucial to prioritize real-world connections and support platforms that foster meaningful engagement."

Conclusion and Shout Outs

The episode concludes with the hosts offering shout-outs to their loyal listeners and encouraging them to engage with their content across various platforms. They emphasize the importance of community support in navigating the complex, ever-evolving digital landscape.

[81:33] Podcast Host 2: "We appreciate all our listeners and invite you to join us at pearlmania500.net or patreon.com/Pearlmania500. Together, we can navigate through the flood of content and maintain genuine connections."

Notable Quotes:

• [00:28] - "For 14 hours, we sat in darkness... Where would the believers and the followers who looked every day at the clock app stand?" — Podcast Host 1
• [18:35] - "The CEO's job is to save the company. Once Joe Biden signed the TikTok ban, we knew this was always going to happen." — Podcast Host 1
• [52:42] - "There has been a theory that we aren't speaking to people. Most of the Internet since about 2016, comment sections and all, are bots." — Podcast Host 1
• [55:12] - "These bots are designed to sow discord... Their existence is literally to break our brains." — Podcast Host 1

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Final Thoughts: "The Death and Resurrection of TikTok" offers a comprehensive exploration of TikTok's fleeting ban, the rise of conspiracy theories surrounding social media, and the broader implications of AI on internet interactions. Through engaging dialogue and personal anecdotes, Pearlmania500 and Mrs. P provide listeners with a thought-provoking analysis of the digital world's current state and its potential future.

Transcript

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[Podcast Host 1]

CT mobile.com on January 18, 2025 at 10:30pm Eastern Standard Time in the United States of America, a push notification was sent to every TikTok user across this great nation. And it said that TikTok was gone. Banned in the United States. And for 14 hours we sat in darkness looking out, where, oh where will we go? Will we go to Instagram reels? Will we go to YouTube shorts? Where would the believers and the followers who looked every day at the clock app and who said such words as unalived? Where would they stand hand in hand as TikTok users? And then 14 hours later, on January 19, 12:30pm Eastern Standard Time in the United States of America, TikTok returned. That's right, in only 14 hours. Didn't need to take 72 hours like a carpenter bitch. Welcome to Too Many Tabs. Today's episode, as you can probably tell, is about TikTok, but it's about a little bit more than that. It's about the Internet as a whole and how we speak to each other and how we communicate through social media apps. And on this podcast, a podcast where a husband and wife duo sit across from each other at a desk, learning about a topic, ingesting that information and then spilling it across each other's chests as they rub it in deep into their bodies. Like two people at 3 o'clock in the morning in front of a refrigerator who thinks that the baby can't hear them. They create a podcast. And that podcast, if is called Too Many Tabs, Too many frauds and Too many scammers that we wish weren't real. Too many cons and too many spammers and we're starting to feel like we've got too many tabs. Open it. Too many Tabs. Remember to smile.

[Podcast Host 2]

Welcome everyone. I Hope you brought a casserole dish.

[Podcast Host 1]

I did.

[Podcast Host 2]

Because we're here for the wake.

[Podcast Host 1]

We're here for the wake.

[Podcast Host 2]

To sit shiva, if you will.

[Podcast Host 1]

We are here because even though TikTok is a zombie and it is still around, it's dead. Yeah, it's dead in ways that we are here to discuss today. And that's what today is about. But before we get started, okay, into all of these different things we have planned to cover today.

[Podcast Host 2]

Sure.

[Podcast Host 1]

We want to cover and let you guys know. Just a couple basic announcements about too many tabs about the Pearl Mania 500 Pearl Main Averse and other things. We have our parasocial Patreon exclusive podcast, the Warm up is up now. And you can always get that by joining us at Pearlmania500.NET and becoming a team lead member. And you can get access to that podcast if you'd like. We also. We also just released an episode of Vibing out with the Food Moron, also known as Vibing out with the Food Idiot. We're in discussions right now of who.

[Podcast Host 2]

Has the correct title's Idiot because his name was Dusk. Said it's easier to rhyme for the song he's writing.

[Podcast Host 1]

I know. For the new theme song, but we're gonna work on that. And that's. That has been up since Friday. And on this week's episode, which we do a monthly on there where you explain how to cook a very basic meal to me. Ye very basic food item. This week we did chicken soup.

[Podcast Host 2]

Yep.

[Podcast Host 1]

Because we all need a little chicken soup for our soul, don't we?

[Podcast Host 2]

We need soup for our families.

[Podcast Host 1]

That too. That too. But that's. That's the big. That's the big announcements for us right now, you know, Always follow. As always follow us across all the different forms of social media. All those fun things. Mrs. P, anything else you want to say?

[Podcast Host 2]

I don't think so. I feel like we were just gonna have a good time today.

[Podcast Host 1]

We are. That's really what this is about. Today's episode is about just kind of having a good time. I don't want you to think of this as a funeral.

[Podcast Host 2]

No.

[Podcast Host 1]

For Tik Tok or for any of these forms of social media. I want you to think of it as the. Hey, you know what? They had a good, full life.

[Podcast Host 2]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host 1]

You know what I mean?

[Podcast Host 2]

They did it while they were here.

[Podcast Host 1]

They did it. They did it. They did it.

[Podcast Host 2]

And then everybody's gonna get a little too drunk.

[Podcast Host 1]

Yep.

[Podcast Host 2]

And Aunt dawn is gonna get into a fight with Tommy again.

[Podcast Host 1]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Podcast Host 2]

Well, It's a real shame. He's addicted to them perks, you know?

[Podcast Host 1]

Yeah. My cousin Becky's gonna get. Get fingered in the bathroom every time. Every time back.

[Podcast Host 2]

It's like there is no place sacred with her.

[Podcast Host 1]

Oh my God. Dud, why are you doing vodka shooters and Nana's funeral?

[Podcast Host 2]

It is 10am Becky.

[Podcast Host 1]

Becky. Who's that guy? What? I've. I've never seen this guy before. Okay, we're gonna let the bit go and we're gonna get started. And so if you are a Patreon member, we're gonna go right into it. If you are not a Patreon member, then you are going to be hearing an ad or seeing it if you're watching us on YouTube. So remember patreon.com promania500 or pearlmania500. Net see you soon.

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[Podcast Host 1]

And we're back.

[Podcast Host 2]

We're back.

[Podcast Host 1]

We're back here.

[Podcast Host 2]

Did you bring the fireball?

[Podcast Host 1]

I did not bring fireball because they told me there wouldn't be an ice.

[Podcast Host 2]

Luge at this one.

[Podcast Host 1]

Nothing like. Let me tell you something.

[Podcast Host 2]

You gotta put money aside for the ice lose.

[Podcast Host 1]

If you get of you guys who don't know those guys didn't party in the early 2000s. You get a big block of ice and you channel. You channel a channel.

[Podcast Host 2]

You make a little sliding board.

[Podcast Host 1]

Make a little sliding board and then you pour the booze down it. You also have to make sure you chisel out a chin plate. A chin rest.

[Podcast Host 2]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host 1]

So you put your mouth in. Ha. And then you watch it come down. Used to do Jaeger ice luges. Yeah, but let's talk about the. The death and resurrection of Tick Tock.

[Podcast Host 2]

So what? Okay. All right. For me, the death of TikTok. We were both sitting side by side on our couch. The TV's on. We're not watching it. No, but we're scrolling because it's like it felt like the last moments, like to try to see the last of the tiktoks because we knew first we heard 8:30, we heard so many different midnight and we were just like, let me just get all these tiktoks in before. I can't TikTok anymore. It was the most junky behavior I have partaked in in well over a decade.

[Podcast Host 1]

Which is crazy because you've. You've seen some junkie behavior.

[Podcast Host 2]

We've engaged in some real junkie behavior. But me sitting in the corner just going, just one more TikTok, just one more.

[Podcast Host 1]

But also, also like, scrub me. Like, is this one? Is this. It was for me, for me it was very much like when I quit smoking, right? And being like, all right, well if I quit, I don't want that to be the last thing. You know what I mean? Like you have to know what the last one. And so it's the same thing with scrolling. The last tiktoks was like I would see when I'd be like, I swear to God, if I scroll and it's broken and I don't get to see anything anymore and it's some garbage like. Like, let me tell you, if it had been a Charli D'Amelio video, I would have been so mad because I don't her in my feed and whenever she does show up, her or some of the other like huge call me Chris. The other 50 million follower level ones, I only ever see them when Tik Tok is messing around with their algorithm. And so I was so nervous that I was going to be seeing Haley Bailey. That was the let them eat cake lady.

[Podcast Host 2]

Cake.

[Podcast Host 1]

Yeah. Call me Chris Charlie D'Amelio. I'm trying to think of some others more of like the two. The 2020 dancing ones.

[Podcast Host 2]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host 1]

You know, who do like good dancing remixes. But while we were sitting there, we got blasted by these updates that would come repeatedly. And the first one that hit because we're all sitting around at 8:30, we were all told, we heard it was 8:30. We got texts from people. I know people who were like working on the back end. I knew people who were like lobbying different members of government and in communication with like TikTok themselves. So I was getting trickle down stuff and I was like, I don't people be like, do you know anything? I was like, I don't think I know anything.

[Podcast Host 2]

No, but.

[Podcast Host 1]

But we kept hearing 8:30 and so I, all of a sudden it was around 8:30, 9:00. We all got this one push notification. Important update from TikTok. We regret that a US law banning TikTok will take effect on January 19th and force us to make our services temporarily unavailable. We're working to restore our service in the United States as soon as possible and we appreciate your support. Please stay tuned.

[Podcast Host 2]

Yeah, and so immediately when I got that push notification, I said it's not going anywhere. Cuz I've read enough legal documents to know that once you put the word temporary in there. Yeah, you mean not forever. And so I was like, oh well, whatever's going to happen, it'll be back. It doesn't matter.

[Podcast Host 1]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host 2]

Cuz they wrote temporarily and you know their legal team had to look at everything 400 times.

[Podcast Host 1]

Yeah. Because they had just lost the Supreme Court case like hard. So I was just like, oh, unanimously hard. Which we talked about on the, the warm up episode we had out. And so we were sitting there like that hit. And I was like, oh, that doesn't feel good. Yeah, that doesn't feel good. And so we were sitting there and then that. You were scrolling. At one point I had finally put it down because I'm like, I can't just be sitting here at this point. It felt like I was, it felt like I was underage drinking again where you're drinking because you don't know when you're going to be able to do it again. Not like. Because once I turned, like I remember when I turned like 23, I think I remember being at a bar and I had half a beer, I drank like half a beer. And then we're like, oh, we're going to go. And I was like, oh, we'll pound that and then we'll go. And I'm like, I don't want to. And I just sat it down. He's like, you can't just leave half. I'm like, yes I can. I paid for the entire beer. I can do whatever I want with it.

[Podcast Host 2]

This is not a shared experience.

[Podcast Host 1]

I know it's not.

[Podcast Host 2]

I never left a soldier behind in my life.

[Podcast Host 1]

Well, you know what? Much like Henry Kissinger, I abandon soldiers everywhere. So I, I was in that feeling. I'm just like, you know what? I'm not gonna be controlled by this.

[Podcast Host 2]

And then, oh my God, you not be controlled by the TikToks.

[Podcast Host 1]

So that lasted for all of 10 minutes because Mrs. P is on her iPad, she's sitting on the Couch next to me and you're scrolling. And then there was one of them hit. And this guy said, I heard it's shutting down at 10:30. Yeah, that's what he said. I heard it shutting down at 10:30. And I looked and I was like, well, what time is it now? I looked and I was like, it's 10:15.

[Podcast Host 2]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host 1]

I was like, well, gotta try it again. And now it felt like I was doing scratch offs.

[Podcast Host 2]

Yep.

[Podcast Host 1]

It felt very much like, hey, Powerball's about to hit a billion.

[Podcast Host 2]

Yep.

[Podcast Host 1]

And I don't buy Powerball. I don't buy Powerball tickets. I don't buy Mega Millions. I'm not one of those people. I'm not into that stuff.

[Podcast Host 2]

Yeah, we don't do the gambling.

[Podcast Host 1]

However, when everybody at my job is buying into the pool, I'll be fucked if I'm not joining the pool. And also I'll be fud if I'm not sneaking off to the side and buying one single on my own. Okay, okay. Because let me tell you something. If. If the lady from Accounts Payable, if we all put in 30 bucks each to be in the fucking Mega Millions, all right, for $1 billion in this office where we all hate our fucking boss. And that one lady from Accounts Payable buys her own ticket and she gets out, Kathy gets out. But the rest of us are stuck. But I'll be fucked. Yeah, I'll be. So I started scrolling 15 minutes, started scrolling, and I saw a. An influencer who I know personally, and he. So many people were on Tick Tock Live.

[Podcast Host 2]

Yeah, everyone was on Tick Tock Live.

[Podcast Host 1]

Everyone. And so I was sitting there and all of a sudden he's like talking. And I paused on him for like, just a second. And also he goes, oh, no. Oh, no. Where. Where'd your face? I can't see your faces on your profiles anymore. Because when you're on TikTok live, it shows you. Like when people are commenting, you can see their. Their profile pictures. I can't see your faces anymore. Some of you are saying, I'm breaking up. Oh, no, it's happening. It's half. Is it going dirt? And it just cut. It just died. And I'm like staring at it. And then all of a sudden I like scroll up one. And then I get this push notification. And it said, quote, a law banning. Sorry, TikTok isn't available right now. A law banning TikTok has been enacted in the United States. Unfortunately, that means you can't use TikTok for now.

[Podcast Host 2]

For now.

[Podcast Host 1]

We are fortunate that President Trump has indicated that he will work with us on a solution to reinstate TikTok once he takes office. Please stay tuned. Exclamation point.

[Podcast Host 2]

Yeah, that's when he was strapping the knee pads on.

[Podcast Host 1]

Yep. So that was when went down to Mar a Lago and he was like, listen, I heard from the guy at the Fyre festival that this is how you get water. I 14 straight hours of throat pump.

[Podcast Host 2]

I got two more TikToks than you because yours went right before mine, and mine was. The last one was this girl saying, like, wow, we all agree that the Heidi and Spencer Heidi's song was going number one everywhere because their house had burned out. So everybody was listening to it. She was like, I understand that that's like the final song of TikTok, but I think that the. The song of Tick Tock was this. And she was playing it, and I don't. I don't know what it's called, but it's like the who. Who. It's like a very. Like, I wish I knew what song it was, but I was listening to it. I was like, oh, my God, that is a song. Like, when I hear. It's like, no, no, no.

[Podcast Host 1]

You came to hum it.

[Podcast Host 2]

I know I can't.

[Podcast Host 1]

Okay.

[Podcast Host 2]

But it's. But I was listening to it and I. My brain was just like, oh, that really is kind of like a song that I hear. And I immediately associate with, like, the, like, the little happy, positive time of Tick Tock, like right after the pandemic when everybody was just Silly Billy in it. Up.

[Podcast Host 1]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host 2]

And it was like, only the nicest tiktoks were of this song.

[Podcast Host 1]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host 2]

Yeah. And I was like, oh, that's a really good. And then as my brain was like, oh, that's really nice. I got the notification and it locked hers and it locked my. And I was like. It made me so sad because I was like, just having such a happy little Tick Tock is so nice.

[Podcast Host 1]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host 2]

Because I. My algorithm wasn't like yours. My algorithm was just showing me all the awesome things that Tick Tocks had done. So, like, I'm in the corner weeping, watching Keith Lee when He was like, 20 years old.

[Podcast Host 1]

Baby.

[Podcast Host 2]

His wife had just given birth, and he's like, cooking her dinner, and they're talking about how much they love food. And I was like. And he's just so young, and I'm like, he changed the lives of hundreds of restaurant owners. He like, incredible what he's done on TikTok. And I'M just like, he's holding his newborn baby and they're like, they're 20 years old or something. And I was just like, oh, my God, TikTok. And so I was just, like, in a whole different mindspace than you, who were just, like, holding your phone, like, oh, no. The death has come. It is upon us.

[Podcast Host 1]

Yeah. But also, I mean, mine was the. The one that was going for me was the. The. The Family Guy thing of. If I have one last thing to tell you.

[Podcast Host 2]

Oh, my God.

[Podcast Host 1]

With a lot of the influencers giving up. Too many secrets.

[Podcast Host 2]

So many.

[Podcast Host 1]

To the point where I'm like, did you guys not know that this was like, this is a kayfabe death? Like, this is like the death of Vince McMahon. Like, this is. It hasn't actually. Oh, my God.

[Podcast Host 2]

I thought you all were pivoting to other platforms, but also, all of these.

[Podcast Host 1]

People are on other platforms.

[Podcast Host 2]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host 1]

Like, there's so many. Like, there's this one girl. I think her name's like, Brooke Monk again, Haley Bailey. All these other different ones who every now and then come into my feeds, but I only know them as Tick Tockers on Instagram or on YouTube shorts or on these other places. I don't see them on TikTok. And I know they're huge on TikTok because I'm not in their demo.

[Podcast Host 2]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host 1]

But, like, I'm like, all of you are diversified. Like, all of you are diversified. Like, I know that this is weird.

[Podcast Host 2]

I didn't actually do any of those workouts. I just got a bbl.

[Podcast Host 1]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host 2]

Crazy.

[Podcast Host 1]

Yeah. Well, I was like, that's an insane. Like, this is.

[Podcast Host 2]

And I was like, I already knew that.

[Podcast Host 1]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host 2]

Weird conversation.

[Podcast Host 1]

Like. Yeah, it's this weird confession that I was like, what? And so it was.

[Podcast Host 2]

And then I. And then you and I were like, let's. Let's talk about the. Talk about the Fed allegations.

[Podcast Host 1]

Oh, yeah, let's talk about that shit. Yeah, that. But that was. It was mine. It's like, I'm flipping it. But the. So then. So anyway, I had that. And then the Adult Swim.

[Podcast Host 2]

What was the Adult Swim?

[Podcast Host 1]

Adult Swim was. There was this one song, and the one thing that Tick tock really did. A lot of that people don't talk about as much in the edits is people taking songs and speeding them up or slowing them down to change the meaning of them. And there's this one song called Running His Way Is Easy but the Leaving Is Hard.

[Podcast Host 2]

Oh, yeah.

[Podcast Host 1]

They speed it up. And that sounds very much like a mid-2000s adult swim bumper.

[Podcast Host 2]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host 1]

Running way is easy, but the living is hard. And so people were making like fake Adult Swim ads for it for a while. So it's like somebody sitting at a desk and then they, they like open the drawer or they close the drawer and it says, as for Adult Swim. So people were doing like different versions of that that were really, really cool. And it was cool that they were bringing that back after like two years or that that was like my like late pandemic trend, I think.

[Podcast Host 2]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host 1]

So it's like, oh, that's cool. So like that was my end of my algorithm before that, like wiped. And so I was sitting there, I was like, okay, cool. So we go through the, the 14 hours.

[Podcast Host 2]

Yeah. Also in that thing. Once I saw that Trump's name was in it, I was like, again coming back. Oh, yeah, definitely coming. I was like, we're out here.

[Podcast Host 1]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host 2]

And then we're getting the best.

[Podcast Host 1]

Well, okay, so. So real quick. I agree with you. I do agree with you.

[Podcast Host 2]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host 1]

But I think that people are missing about how, how that's necessary now.

[Podcast Host 2]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host 1]

Is so the, the move of Tick Tock itself at this point. And by Tick Tock, I mean the executives, their job is to save the company. That's it. If they don't save the company, they don't have a job.

[Podcast Host 2]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host 1]

The end. So their job is to save the company. Once Joe Biden signed the Tick Tock ban, this is always what was going to happen. The second Joseph Robinette Biden signed the Tick Tock the second that happened, this was always going to happen. And I knew it. I didn't know how.

[Podcast Host 2]

He just wanted to sign a paper for a Trump win.

[Podcast Host 1]

He. I didn't know how deep it was gonna happen. And so the fact that a lot of people were shocked by this exact move, that actually caught me more off guard because I was like, listen, if you want Trump to do something, you have to pre praise him for doing it and then you have to pretend it was his idea. Trump is the pointy haired boss. Like, he is an idiot, he's a moron, and he is a narcissist. So you have to play into those things. And that's 100% what happened in this moment. And so that was a. We are fortunate that President Trump has indicated that he will work with us. Now. One of the things that has happened, and I've seen a bunch of reporting on this, is that the reason they went dark beyond just this move was that Apple, Oracle and other data partners that they have that are us based. Said that at midnight or whatever timing. They would have to shut off the service anyway. So there is a half play in here of like, they really were going to shut off the service, but they also did a little bit. They added theatrical to it.

[Podcast Host 2]

Yeah. It's a WWE work.

[Podcast Host 1]

Yes. Which is like, hey, I'm gonna kick in the face. Oh, you kicked too hard. Well, now act it up. Yeah, that's really what it is. Becky lynch getting her nose broken. Not planned to have her nose broken, but did she fucking lean into it, Become the man. Yes.

[Podcast Host 2]

Schmeared that blood everywhere. But.

[Podcast Host 1]

But for those of you guys who. Who are, like, still trying to, like, grasp all this, like. Like, it. It did actually get shut down.

[Podcast Host 2]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host 1]

And when it came back 14 hours.

[Podcast Host 2]

Later, 14 hours later. Not enough time. I was definitely gonna have more time.

[Podcast Host 1]

I wish I. I wish they waited.

[Podcast Host 2]

Like I'm saying, I hope. I was hoping to have more time, specifically in our household, not for anybody else.

[Podcast Host 1]

Yeah. Well, yeah. Yeah. Because it was. Because I was in the middle of filming birds.

[Podcast Host 2]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host 1]

I was getting the birds video ready, which is live now on YouTube. A lot of you guys asked for it. A lot of y'all asked for a.

[Podcast Host 2]

Bird tier list on tears.

[Podcast Host 1]

We did it. It's 17 minutes long on the birds. Mrs. P actually sat down and wrote a list of birds for me to rank.

[Podcast Host 2]

And with the help of my dad.

[Podcast Host 1]

With the help of your dad.

[Podcast Host 2]

My dad. And I sat again.

[Podcast Host 1]

I was.

[Podcast Host 2]

I going, now, let me see what kind of birds we want to talk about.

[Podcast Host 1]

Yeah. And I was upstairs working on stuff. And then all of a sudden, people started texting me like, it's back. I can upload. I can do this, I can do that. I was like, what? Because the whole time I'm sitting there, I was like. I was, you know, doing Instagram.

[Podcast Host 2]

No, no, I meant in that I was hoping if it was going to be down.

[Podcast Host 1]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host 2]

And I knew him in my heart that it was coming back. I was hoping for the 72 hours the Jesus going in the tomb to wait to come back out. Because then I thought to myself, self, husband will have much energy. Husband will have nothing to do. I'm going to get the garage cleaned. I'm gonna come up with tasks.

[Podcast Host 1]

We're gonna clean idle hands that no longer swipe up.

[Podcast Host 2]

Yeah. I was like, oh, we're gonna move the air conditioners up to the attic. It's happening.

[Podcast Host 1]

That's never happened.

[Podcast Host 2]

I was like. I was super excited to have 72 hours or so to delegate tasks to someone who didn't have TikTok to keep their brain busy. And then my dreams were crushed.

[Podcast Host 1]

Yeah. And then I started getting texts from so many people.

[Podcast Host 2]

Still messy.

[Podcast Host 1]

Someone actually gave a shout out in the last one. Bistro Huddy. Bistro Huddy texted me and was like, it's back. And I was like, what's up, bud? I gave you a shout out on our podcast. So. Yeah. And so we were texting back and forth and I would start running around, like, and testing stuff. And then it wasn't on the phones immediately. I could get to it on desktop without a vpn. And then it came back on the phones and it said, welcome back. Thanks for your patience and support. As a result of President Trump's efforts, TikTok is back in the United States. You can continue to create, share and discover all the things you love on TikTok. And then you can hit continue. Now, this is what truly broke people's brains, because, number one, it came back on January 19th at 12:30pm Eastern Standard Time for us.

[Podcast Host 2]

Not me. I didn't get it because on my iPad.

[Podcast Host 1]

Your iPad didn't update for a while, but that was almost. That is 23 and a half hours before President Trump was the president, United States of America.

[Podcast Host 2]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host 1]

So almost 24 hours earlier. Now, the reasoning that was given is that Trump put a post out on True Social stating that he intended to ignore the law.

[Podcast Host 2]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host 1]

And that apparently was enough for Oracle and the other ones. And TikTok had said repeatedly that they needed something in writing from the Biden administration stating that they weren't going to enforce the law.

[Podcast Host 2]

Busy writing pardons.

[Podcast Host 1]

He had no time to write for his entire family. And Foushee and millie and the January 6th committee. Every side of the January 6th has been pardoned. Everything, the investigators, the actual people who.

[Podcast Host 2]

Did it, never happened.

[Podcast Host 1]

Never happened.

[Podcast Host 2]

All being gaslit.

[Podcast Host 1]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host 2]

I'm glad Maddie did Fauci, though. Yeah, my boy Fauci.

[Podcast Host 1]

Yeah. And Millie.

[Podcast Host 2]

I was downstairs yelling earlier because the. I saw that Fauci's gonna be at the free library. Like, he has a book tour. And I was like, my boy. My boy needed that so he could go do his book tour. I was like, he. If it wasn't for Dr. Fauci, another 50,000 people would have died during the HIV Crisis in the 80s. He saved so many lives during that. Then I might have just started screaming about Reagan and his bitch wife for a bit.

[Podcast Host 1]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host 2]

And then baby woke up, so. Yeah, but, yeah, but, yeah, no, listen.

[Podcast Host 1]

The CEO of TikTok, Nancy Reagan. Two people who have sucked presidential dick. So the. What?

[Podcast Host 2]

You're gonna get banned.

[Podcast Host 1]

What?

[Podcast Host 2]

You're gonna get banned.

[Podcast Host 1]

What?

[Podcast Host 2]

Anyway, you should hit the allegedly button. We don't know. You're gonna get sued. It was a joke.

[Podcast Host 1]

Oh, that was really quiet. Yeah, I'm not gonna hit it again. But anyway, once Tick Tock came back, though, now. Now the funniest thing happened.

[Podcast Host 2]

What's that?

[Podcast Host 1]

Which is for the first time ever, y'all, anyone who hasn't been deep into Tick Tock, who has been. Who has waded through it. Yeah, y'all. Tick Tock is a place where conspiracy theories.

[Podcast Host 2]

Oh, my God.

[Podcast Host 1]

Boy, can they take off for sure. And boy, can they clap. And they can go quickly, and then they can also die very rapidly as well. But the thing is, is TikTok's greatest adversary has been Mark Zuckerberg. Specifically, it's been Mark Zuckerberg and Meta, who owns Instagram, Facebook, WhatsApp, Oculus, a bunch of Congress people. So that. That's been the biggest foil. So TikTok's off for 14 hours. It's down. It comes back. And when it turned back on, this is the reason why, again, I believe that it was actually shut down. The United States, a lot of services weren't immediately available because when you have a system as massive as TikToks, when you. When you pull the giant lever that says off, you can't just turn everything on at the same time. You have to turn on regular feeds first, then comments, then likes, then data tracking. Then these things. Eventually, lives come back. Eventually, TikTok shop comes back. People were freaking out, though, because they're like, it's different. I can feel it's different, all these different things. And then suddenly the conspiracy hit. Yeah, during the 14 hours it was off. They didn't turn off the servers. They switched the servers to meta. We're on meta servers now.

[Podcast Host 2]

Yep.

[Podcast Host 1]

But that didn't happen. That didn't happen. It just didn't. But it's one of those things where people started to see. They started to grab all these little pieces. Hank Green made a really great video about it. Because there are conspiracy influencers out there.

[Podcast Host 2]

They sure are.

[Podcast Host 1]

Goddamn. There are a lot of them. And what they do is they create a puzzle, but they do that by handing you random pieces of paper. They hand you a group of dates, they hand you a device, they hand you the name of a politician, and they say, don't those look like puzzle pieces? I wonder if they fit Together and then they wait for you to put them together. And whatever you come up with, he's going to agree with. He's gonna say, wow, it's crazy how much you did your research on that and what conclusion you led to. I wonder what else you can find. Here's more puzzle pieces.

[Podcast Host 2]

Yep.

[Podcast Host 1]

And that's what all of these guys do.

[Podcast Host 2]

And that's with that cool background music. Yeah, you got the cool background music.

[Podcast Host 1]

Yeah. This is very specific. Oh, Dune. Dune. Dune. That's the one. That's the one they love to use. And so they use that. And TikTok has never, ever had the conspiracy funnel aimed at themselves before.

[Podcast Host 2]

Yeah. That they are part of the conspiracy.

[Podcast Host 1]

Yeah. That now they are part of. They're like, no, now it's. It's state owned, these things. And then Trump kept talking.

[Podcast Host 2]

Yeah, well, he's never going to know.

[Podcast Host 1]

Never going to. Not. And that's what doubles and triples down into it. Because now Trump is saying that half of TikTok needs to be sold to the United States.

[Podcast Host 2]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host 1]

No one knows what that means.

[Podcast Host 2]

Who knows?

[Podcast Host 1]

Because also, we don't know what he means by half of TikTok.

[Podcast Host 2]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host 1]

Does he mean half of the TikTok US? No, just the lives and just Tik Tok Live. He just wants TikTok.

[Podcast Host 2]

He wants TikTok shop. He wants access to those wigs. Folks.

[Podcast Host 1]

All I want is Froggy on. I want. I saw, I was in the TikTok live, folks. I saw a rooster wearing jeans and I said, we need this. This is American. A rooster wearing Levi jeans. Levi's. Levi jeans. I was. Sorry, Disassociating again. No, but the, the, the seeing the conspiracy happen. Because the other parts that people started to notice is that Facebook has a TikTok account.

[Podcast Host 2]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host 1]

It's had it for a long time. Instagram has a verified TikTok account. It's had it for a long time. People said, I got a push notification that said, oh, you know, add your Facebook contacts to spread. Yeah. That's been there for a long time. What a lot of people. What's happening to a lot of people is most people don't have updates set on their phone or they regularly update their apps.

[Podcast Host 2]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host 1]

And so because that doesn't happen when this change happened, a lot of stuff that was backlogged got pushed through.

[Podcast Host 2]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host 1]

And now that that's happened, they're freaking out. I'm like, I. Y'all, I had so many problems with TikTok for the last two years. There'd be regularly. I would uninstall and reinstall the app just to get. To force it to give me the update. Because I would find out about stuff like the picture carousels. Yeah, I never had those. That's why I never did them. Yeah, there was all these small things. TikTok shop.

[Podcast Host 2]

You weren't able to do TikTok shop forever.

[Podcast Host 1]

It was like a year. It took me a year. It wasn't until the day after the election something finally fixed.

[Podcast Host 2]

They told you they just made it so you couldn't do it. You were blacklisted.

[Podcast Host 1]

I was so mad. I was so mad. No, no, because I was so mad because I was like. It was the day after the election and I'd been wanting to do one for the people who do Inklings. Yeah, I want to do the Ollie the Odd Bird. He's right there on the floor or over there in the back.

[Podcast Host 2]

He's so far away from me.

[Podcast Host 1]

But I wanted to do the Ollie the Odd Bird video. And I knew what would happen. All those people who have been calling me a fed and a government shill and all this shit the day after the election suddenly like, oh, now I can do TikTok shops. I knew what the comments were going to be. Oh, I guess his White House paycheck doesn't fucking clear anymore. So now we look at. He's like. He's like Jason Nash.

[Podcast Host 2]

Oh, Jason Nash. I know. Oh, the man. But listen, do you think that Joe Biden. Never mind. He signed the paperwork to end our jobs. Why would he pay us.

[Podcast Host 1]

Yeah. To end TikTok.

[Podcast Host 2]

It's crazy.

[Podcast Host 1]

So the other part of it, though, which, again, these people aren't. It's not clicking with them because they're like. No, no, it's all these secret mergers are having secret mergers. Besides the fact the size of these companies are so big and they sign off and all these other things that would have to happen and. Yeah. Do we live in an illegal kleptocracy now where that can happen? Yeah, totally. But not in the first hour. It would. Like, if it was six months from now, I would totally be with you on this. But today there's still. There's still too many wheels within wheels. However, the other thing, though, is why would that happen if Meta changed Instagram specifically to try to pull over people who fell off from TikTok? Why would YouTube change so much to pull over the people that were about to. They were about to lose Tik Tok. Why would all of these apps pivot so hard for Us on this specific date. I need you guys to understand that as a content creator who works specifically in short form video, whose primary area has been TikTok, traditionally, I have been reached out to by every service with the exception of Facebook. Yeah, they know they don't like me and I don't like them. And I'm on it. I'm on it. But we're. We're not friends. But the. All of them have reached out over the last bunch of months and been like, well, you know what? The band coming. Ever since the ban was signed, all of them. YouTube changed to three minutes. The day of the. The day before the ban, on January 18th, Instagram rolled out three minute reels.

[Podcast Host 2]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host 1]

On the YouTube shorts. Had three minute shorts all the time.

[Podcast Host 2]

They were all trying to.

[Podcast Host 1]

All these different things.

[Podcast Host 2]

But the thing is, is they said, oh, we'll make it longer. But they didn't make the app any better.

[Podcast Host 1]

No, they didn't.

[Podcast Host 2]

They didn't make the app. You can't. What's it called? Edit things. Well, no, the captions suck.

[Podcast Host 1]

All those.

[Podcast Host 2]

The comments suck. You can't, like, Duet properly. You can't share videos you like with your friends properly until, like, your feed. It's dumb. And they should have spent the last years making their platform as good as Tick Tock.

[Podcast Host 1]

Yep. And with that, what I hear to tell you is now that Tick Tock is completely under the thumb of the Trump administration. Because it is.

[Podcast Host 2]

It definitely is.

[Podcast Host 1]

I think it is.

[Podcast Host 2]

Wait, no. Of all the conspiracy theories, I think that one thing that is likely true.

[Podcast Host 1]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host 2]

Is that it's state media. Now. It will. Yeah. In a way, it's, it's.

[Podcast Host 1]

No, it's influenced by the state. At the minimum, right now, it's influenced by the state because if something trends that Donald Trump doesn't like, then he can say, well, then I'm not extending the ban.

[Podcast Host 2]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host 1]

Or we're not negotiating. And right now TikTok is worth a trillion dollars to the owners of TikTok and it is worth nothing to Trump.

[Podcast Host 2]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host 1]

And he said that. He's like, if I don't, if I don't approve anything, it's not worth anything.

[Podcast Host 2]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host 1]

He said that into the camera in front of the press. And he knows. And TikTok knows. TikTok changed their algorithm. Like, people like, oh, they went out, they changed their algorithm to show more conservative stuff. No, no, y'all, they didn't do that. They didn't do that this week. They changed their algorithm the day Joe Biden signed the Ban.

[Podcast Host 2]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host 1]

They took. They took left leaning content creators and they put us in one bucket. They took bucket. They took right leaning content creators, they put them in another bucket and they took undecideds and they put them in the same bucket with Charlie Kirk.

[Podcast Host 2]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host 1]

And Charlie Kirk has gone on podcasts and openly said this.

[Podcast Host 2]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host 1]

So like that conspiracy is not a theory. It is what happened and it just.

[Podcast Host 2]

Happened a while ago.

[Podcast Host 1]

Yeah. And all of this, this has been happening across the media and it's just people are starting to catch up to it now. So with that.

[Podcast Host 2]

Okay, listen, we're gonna take a break.

[Podcast Host 1]

Yes. And when we come back, we're gonna.

[Podcast Host 2]

Because it's gonna be more fun than this. Yeah, I feel bummed out now.

[Podcast Host 1]

You feel bummed out now?

[Podcast Host 2]

I feel bummed out now.

[Podcast Host 1]

Well, you know what we're gonna do? We're gonna remember happier times here.

[Podcast Host 2]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host 1]

And we're gonna have some eulogies for other social media apps.

[Podcast Host 2]

Okay. That we also died.

[Podcast Host 1]

That also died, but died for different reasons, but also just to remember about, you know, what it used to be like, but also to remind maybe some tech people out there what you could just steal from the past and rebuild. Okay, we'll be right back after this.

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[Podcast Host 2]

And we're back. We' and it's time for a eulogy. And if there's one person in this room who can give a last minute eulogy.

[Podcast Host 1]

That has happened to me multiple times. I know that has happened me twice.

[Podcast Host 2]

Every time we go to a funeral, they're like, you know what? Can you get up and say some words?

[Podcast Host 1]

Yeah, that hap. We're at one where we're literally, I'm there. And then someone said, can you get up and say some words on behalf of the family? Just thank people for coming, say something nice about the departed and thank the church. And I was like, yeah, sure. And I just, I froze. I was like, you mean like a eulogy? And they're like, yeah, yeah, yeah, on the spot. I had to crush you.

[Podcast Host 2]

Crushed.

[Podcast Host 1]

I made everybody cry and I made them laugh.

[Podcast Host 2]

Cry and laugh. Killed it. Best set of your life.

[Podcast Host 1]

But here's the thing. Mrs. B and I, we are, we're millennials.

[Podcast Host 2]

Older. Millennials.

[Podcast Host 1]

Older, older. We're. We're here. Our bones crack and creak all the time. You know, sometimes we, you know, look at booking trips to Turkey to make ourselves feel young.

[Podcast Host 2]

We do.

[Podcast Host 1]

I do. Okay, I'm looking at this one spot in my hairline some days, babe, and I'm like, I could go to the Turkey and I could stay viral. But anyway, we have lived through a lot of social media sites dying. Yeah, a lot of them.

[Podcast Host 2]

I mean, those died because they were bought. Were bought. Or they stopped being cool. They weren't shut down by the government.

[Podcast Host 1]

No, they weren't shut down by the government's new.

[Podcast Host 2]

It's a different thing.

[Podcast Host 1]

It's a new thing for us. That's a, that's, that's part of the new millennium world.

[Podcast Host 2]

That wouldn't have happened to MySpace.

[Podcast Host 1]

They would not. Actually, weirdly, it kind of did.

[Podcast Host 2]

The government.

[Podcast Host 1]

Not the government, but Rupert Murdoch.

[Podcast Host 2]

Yeah, there it is.

[Podcast Host 1]

So, so let's go down some of these, some of these that we were talking about here. So the first one we want to talk about here is MySpace. And we have listeners who are younger who have never been on MySpace.

[Podcast Host 2]

Well, that. I mean, the MySpace was such a very number one. It felt elite because it was the first of its kind.

[Podcast Host 1]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host 2]

So it felt super cool. And you could customize it in a way that you can't customize most social medias. You can make it very much your own.

[Podcast Host 1]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host 2]

You can make your backgrounds all sparkly. You could add music.

[Podcast Host 1]

And you had to do it using HTML. You actually had to go in and know a little tiny bit. Or copy paste a little tiny bit.

[Podcast Host 2]

You just had to make friends on a messenger that knew how to do it. And so they could send you all the copy to put in there.

[Podcast Host 1]

Yeah. So that way.

[Podcast Host 2]

Code.

[Podcast Host 1]

Yeah. Because, like, you couldn't just be like, oh. So you would customize your landing page is what it was. And so, like, I was like, oh, I want mine red with black letters.

[Podcast Host 2]

Whoa.

[Podcast Host 1]

So I had to know the pantone color for red. Like, I didn't know the number.

[Podcast Host 2]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host 1]

Because there's, like, certain codes and hashtags and all this other different stuff you had to know how to play.

[Podcast Host 2]

If you listen to our episode about Tila Tequila, we'll talk. We talked about how she actually was one of the biggest MySpace stars ever.

[Podcast Host 1]

Tila Tequila and Dane Cook and Jeffree Star. Yep.

[Podcast Host 2]

They all made their name on MySpace.

[Podcast Host 1]

And we have an episode about Jeffree Star.

[Podcast Host 2]

Yeah, it's very early. We have good mics then.

[Podcast Host 1]

Yeah. I get really mad about it some of our very early episodes because I didn't know how, you know, how well the POD would do.

[Podcast Host 2]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host 1]

And we didn't want to do invest until we knew what was happening.

[Podcast Host 2]

Like I said, we're not in the gambling.

[Podcast Host 1]

Yeah, we're not.

[Podcast Host 2]

We're not in the gambling. And so DraftKings can stop sending those emails, please. We're not gonna do it.

[Podcast Host 1]

But the. But, but, yeah, the early MySpace, they had a top eight, which eventually spread to, like a top 30.

[Podcast Host 2]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host 1]

That's when you knew we were going downhill. But people used to fight. When I remember people fighting over the top eight.

[Podcast Host 2]

Yeah. You have to keep your friends the top. And then if you're mad at somebody, you pop them out of the top eight. Put someone else in there. Passive aggressive. Oh, Maybe that's why I didn't do. Didn't like it because I. I'm not a passive aggressive person.

[Podcast Host 1]

I didn't have eight.

[Podcast Host 2]

Oh.

[Podcast Host 1]

I didn't have eight friends that I'd want to put in there.

[Podcast Host 2]

There you go.

[Podcast Host 1]

Which is what Dane Cook was for. Yeah, Dane Cook. Was like, some of you only have six friends.

[Podcast Host 2]

Put Dane Cook up.

[Podcast Host 1]

Put Dane Cook up there.

[Podcast Host 2]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host 1]

You know what I mean? And that, like, literally, like, literally, y'all.

[Podcast Host 2]

I would love this. Find my own MySpace and log into it.

[Podcast Host 1]

You can't, but.

[Podcast Host 2]

Yeah, I can't.

[Podcast Host 1]

Well, you can't because. And let's. And here we go. This is what happened. MySpace got sold to News Corp. Which is owned by Rupert Murdoch.

[Podcast Host 2]

Yep.

[Podcast Host 1]

And he spent a lot. I think he spent like a billion dollars for it.

[Podcast Host 2]

Of course.

[Podcast Host 1]

He spent a ton of money. Tom, who ever was everybody's first friend on MySpace. This is the great thing about MySpace for those. You guys don't know. When you first joined it, you had one friend and his name was Tom and he was the founder of MySpace and there was a picture of him looking over his shoulder, and he was just a nice guy. And then one day, when Tom sold to News Corp, Tom got a billion dollars and he did something that a billionaire has never done before. He off forever.

[Podcast Host 2]

Oh, what a thought.

[Podcast Host 1]

He just off, yo, real quick, shout.

[Podcast Host 2]

Out Tom for just off.

[Podcast Host 1]

He just went away.

[Podcast Host 2]

He was like, the money. Go live a life.

[Podcast Host 1]

He's like, shut the fuck up. I'm going to go to an island.

[Podcast Host 2]

You don't need to try to run the government.

[Podcast Host 1]

No. He's like, do you want to go on a podcast, Tom from MySpace? He's like, why would I ever want to do that?

[Podcast Host 2]

I'm busy in the woods or on.

[Podcast Host 1]

A boat or on an island or fishing something else. Every day is great.

[Podcast Host 2]

I don't need to fly to Austin about Rogan.

[Podcast Host 1]

All of my needs are met yeah, I'll never have a need not met.

[Podcast Host 2]

Damn. Living in the woods like Burt's bees.

[Podcast Host 1]

In a tiny cabin that's what Tom did. And so News Corp bought it and they didn't know what social media was.

[Podcast Host 2]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host 1]

And they tried doing a bunch of different pivots and eventually it got sold off and I think sold off again. And somewhere in there, the wrong server got deleted.

[Podcast Host 2]

Yep.

[Podcast Host 1]

And all of our MySpace Photos, pictures, videos, all of our likes, I love our reposts.

[Podcast Host 2]

I don't think that that hacker group Anonymous is real. Right?

[Podcast Host 1]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host 2]

I never had any faith in them. People are always, like, robbing on the Internet. Where's Anonymous? Like, they're not coming to guess. Save us. But I do think if Anonymous is real, then they're the ones that deleted the server to save us all from the pictures of how bad our hair was back then.

[Podcast Host 1]

See, no, I don't Think that's true? I think because I've worked in enough companies, did know that people are just lazy.

[Podcast Host 2]

Named Janet Somebody.

[Podcast Host 1]

Yep.

[Podcast Host 2]

Answered a phishing email. She shouldn't have.

[Podcast Host 1]

Yeah. That something happened and then someone or it wasn't labeled, and they're like, oh, yeah, you can throw that one out. The whole stack. And the guy looked at him was like, it was malicious. I guarantee you. It was probably malicious compliance by one of those guys, like a janitor. So he's like, you want me to throw out this whole stack? And they're like, yeah. He's like, the one marked don't throw out. I told you to throw it out, Steve.

[Podcast Host 2]

Yep.

[Podcast Host 1]

So Steve said, all right. And he took it outside and he crushed it.

[Podcast Host 2]

And they're like, sign this paper saying, you want me to do it.

[Podcast Host 1]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host 2]

Because it's not going to be on me. And Steve always covers his ass.

[Podcast Host 1]

Of course he does cover your ass, Cya, baby. That's why you see why a Steve.

[Podcast Host 2]

So MySpace dies.

[Podcast Host 1]

MySpace dies.

[Podcast Host 2]

Okay.

[Podcast Host 1]

And the thing is, is MySpace was replaced by what?

[Podcast Host 2]

Facebook.

[Podcast Host 1]

Facebook it was. And Facebook, for those of you guys.

[Podcast Host 2]

Who don't know, used to be cool.

[Podcast Host 1]

Old Facebook used to be fun. So first when Facebook. A lot people forget this. When Facebook first rolled out, it was invite only.

[Podcast Host 2]

Yep. You had to have a link to get in.

[Podcast Host 1]

You had to be in college. In a college. You had to be in a green lit college, no less. So. Because it was what? Harvard? Not Harvard.

[Podcast Host 2]

I know. I wasn't there for that.

[Podcast Host 1]

No, I'm saying where it was.

[Podcast Host 2]

Number one, wasn't in college.

[Podcast Host 1]

They made it. Stanford.

[Podcast Host 2]

Number two, wasn't really on the Internet.

[Podcast Host 1]

It was Ivy League. Colleges at first were the only ones allowed to join. And then because you had to have an email address that was a dot.edu of a university and it was these specific Ivy League ones. And then, because those people who go to those schools knew other people, other Ivy Leagues. And so that's how it started out. It spread there, and then it spread a little more. MySpace was for everybody. MySpace was like Hot Topic or Spencer's Gifts or one of those things. Facebook. When Facebook first rolled out, it was Abercrombie and Fitch.

[Podcast Host 2]

Oh, I was gonna say if you. I was like, gonna say like, Neiman Marcus.

[Podcast Host 1]

No, it wasn't Neiman Marcus. It was more this, like.

[Podcast Host 2]

Well, because they were judging everybody on how they looked. Because it was a popularity contest.

[Podcast Host 1]

It was. It was 100% a popularity contest.

[Podcast Host 2]

And.

[Podcast Host 1]

But in the same way Abercrombie was, it Was selling you this elite status and normalcy at the same time.

[Podcast Host 2]

Had to work in the back.

[Podcast Host 1]

Yeah. They were on the seats here.

[Podcast Host 2]

The lawsuit said that.

[Podcast Host 1]

And that was what my friend got a settlement for.

[Podcast Host 2]

Nice.

[Podcast Host 1]

He was on the C team and he was only to work late hours and he only did stock. They never let him speak to a customer. And he did not know that he was considered ugly.

[Podcast Host 2]

Check him in the mail.

[Podcast Host 1]

Until the settlement hit.

[Podcast Host 2]

They said, I'm sorry, hey, buddy, it turns out you're just a little ugly.

[Podcast Host 1]

Hey, here's your money. Here's your OGO settlement check. But yeah, it. I want to say Facebook. Once I got on it, I was like, oh, this is pretty neat. And I would use it a lot for comedy and those things. When I was doing stand up really early on, but early Facebook, you could ask. All your friends were on there. But it was a really great way to have group chats and it was a really great way to have Facebook events.

[Podcast Host 2]

Yeah, Facebook events.

[Podcast Host 1]

And spam the fuck out of them. We used to put the exact time, place, address, and every single person who was going to be in the building onto Facebook.

[Podcast Host 2]

Yeah, you can.

[Podcast Host 1]

And it used to be public for anyone to join.

[Podcast Host 2]

Yep.

[Podcast Host 1]

It was. They weren't private. Anyone could end.

[Podcast Host 2]

You'd be like, big party. Kim's house.

[Podcast Host 1]

Yeah. This time mom's away. It would be Mom's away at 123 Main Street.

[Podcast Host 2]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host 1]

7Pm till. Till 3am Underage drinking allowed. That would be the title. That would be the title. And it would be shared.

[Podcast Host 2]

It would just have a picture of a cooler filled with jungle juice.

[Podcast Host 1]

Yeah. And then everyone would get into it. That. That group. That page would live on as a group.

[Podcast Host 2]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host 1]

Because people would then you have to post pictures from the party and then tag everybody who was there. That we, y'all, we were doing crimes and we were creating data trails.

[Podcast Host 2]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host 1]

And we were putting it everywhere. Yeah, everywhere. And then you know what happened around 2014? You know what happened?

[Podcast Host 2]

All of our parents joined.

[Podcast Host 1]

All of our parents were convinced to join Facebook. And they showed up. They're like, what's this thing over here? And before we knew, they said, oh.

[Podcast Host 2]

I'll post my Social Security card.

[Podcast Host 1]

Yep, sure.

[Podcast Host 2]

Why not?

[Podcast Host 1]

One day we all logged in and then suddenly our entire Facebook feed was just people saying, I do not get a facebook dot com. The ability to stake my personal data.

[Podcast Host 2]

Yeah. And it was the most deep fried screenshot because it had been copy pasted so many times, you can't even read the letters.

[Podcast Host 1]

And that Was that when I was like, I don't know, this place kind of sucks, but I was using. The only reason I stayed around for so long on Facebook as long as I did was because I was doing stand up.

[Podcast Host 2]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host 1]

And it wasn't until about 2017, when the Cambridge Analytica scandal broke.

[Podcast Host 2]

I'm sorry, what's that?

[Podcast Host 1]

Cambridge Analytica was a scandal. So Facebook was doing psychological experiments on their users.

[Podcast Host 2]

Oh, What?

[Podcast Host 1]

Yeah, they tried out a bunch of different things as marketing stuff, and then they also had all these crazy data points on everyone. Everyone. And Cambridge Analytica was a political consulting group.

[Podcast Host 2]

Yep.

[Podcast Host 1]

That figured out basically how to hack people's brains on Facebook by using 50 million Facebook users. They got a hold of all of their data, and then we're able to, like, specifically target groups of people in swing states and others across the United States and the world to convince people that the opposite of what they wanted was what they should vote for.

[Podcast Host 2]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host 1]

And never heard of that happening before.

[Podcast Host 2]

Huh? We should ban this app.

[Podcast Host 1]

We should. And between that and a few other things and me finally stepping away from doing stand up, I decided. And you decide. We deleted our Facebook.

[Podcast Host 2]

I think I only made a Facebook when you and I started dating. I don't think I had one before then.

[Podcast Host 1]

You had to have, because that's how you and I. You and I. Actually, our first communication was in Facebook. It was Facebook Messenger.

[Podcast Host 2]

Messenger, yeah.

[Podcast Host 1]

Yeah. I asked you out on a date on Facebook.

[Podcast Host 2]

That's right.

[Podcast Host 1]

In 2012.

[Podcast Host 2]

I get. What. Okay, so I had at least 2012. I guess 2010. Here's the thing. I know. I don't think I had it while I was still, like, out in the world partying and drinking, because even though we're talking about, like, oh, we had party crimes, I was. I was committing enough crimes in my daily life that I knew enough to not put them online for the most part. There's. I'm sure there's some crimes online, but, like, the kind of crimes you just get fines, not the kindest. And so I feel like maybe she.

[Podcast Host 1]

Was stealing parking cones.

[Podcast Host 2]

I was. I still do. I see a parking. Ooh, Is anybody using that? That's mine. Hey, I'm gonna need that later.

[Podcast Host 1]

Law the streets.

[Podcast Host 2]

I'm gonna save a spot. So I feel like it might have been. I know that I was late, because I know that when I signed up and finally created a Facebook page, I went and I had to, like, find all the friends, and it was like, everybody was already there. They had a backlog of information and Then, yeah, you and I just were both like, this is lame. We're out.

[Podcast Host 1]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host 2]

It took us forever to download it. Cause we had to like download all our pictures.

[Podcast Host 1]

Shut it down was forever. But it was. It was leaving that and then leaving Instagram at the same time. And it wasn't until 2022 when we decided to really start focusing on content creation because I got popular on TikTok that we came back and it forced me to make a Facebook so I could make an Instagram account. Account.

[Podcast Host 2]

Yeah. It was like, if you want to have an Instagram, you have to have this.

[Podcast Host 1]

And to many of our listeners who have reached out to me in the last few days, we are very aware that there is a Facebook account with 38,000 followers that is called Pearl Mania 500 that is a huge supporter of RFK Jr that is not me. We're going to figure my account has not been hacked. We knew of the clones who've been posting me and impersonating me on Facebook for some time, but we have not really looked at Facebook as a place really cared too much about. We are going to. It's just been. It was. It was another thing to do.

[Podcast Host 2]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host 1]

Between having to post on tick, it's having to repost on TikTok, YouTube shorts, Instagram Reels, Blue Sky, Tumblr and threads and then cross posting between all the different ones. Then going on to a live to promote and then making sure it was in the Instagram group chat and then coming back over to [e-mail] to making sure that you all are understood. And then it's a lot. It's a lot of moving pieces.

[Podcast Host 2]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host 1]

So we. We picked and choose. Chose what's important to us.

[Podcast Host 2]

And Facebook's not important.

[Podcast Host 1]

It really isn't. But seeing that someone is using my face to promote RFK Jr and colloidal silver Crazy.

[Podcast Host 2]

Doesn't know the lore. The guy doesn't know the lore.

[Podcast Host 1]

Doesn't know the lore. That's which is wild. Which brings us to the last one that we want to eulogize today, which.

[Podcast Host 2]

Was your favorite maybe My Pinterest.

[Podcast Host 1]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host 2]

My baby. My Pinterest. She got murdered by the AI.

[Podcast Host 1]

Yeah. AI Pinterest.

[Podcast Host 2]

Pinterest used to be so fun. Pinterest is like the most. Was the most calming. Like you could just open it up and you just look at pictures of nice things. And my Pinterest is like so old. So it's like, it's. I have deeply built that algorithm for a long time. The pretty cakes, the lovely gardens. A focaccia that looks like a flower. Like, it's wonderful. A cute haircut, a pair of pants I like. That's what it used to be. And now it's just a slop and ads and ads and ads and ads and AI slop. I haven't seen something that's not an AI like garden in a year. So I. It's like, it's so unusable now.

[Podcast Host 1]

Yeah, it's terrible. Yeah, it's absolutely terrible because he used to show me, like, cool things. I'd be, where do you find that? Like, Pinterest. And I want to do this to, like, our kitchen.

[Podcast Host 2]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host 1]

And now you'll show me something. And I'm like. And you're like, right.

[Podcast Host 2]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host 1]

Why does she have six, seven fingers?

[Podcast Host 2]

Why does she.

[Podcast Host 1]

Every single one of them.

[Podcast Host 2]

Why does the kitchen sink have two sinks? And why is there a candle lit in the sink?

[Podcast Host 1]

Also, also. But. But in this. This issue with Pinterest is an issue across all of social media now, and which is going to get worse, especially on meta platforms now that they have gone and completely destroyed it. And it's also going to be an issue for YouTube especially.

[Podcast Host 2]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host 1]

It's such an issue for YouTube and it's being specifically targeted at kids also.

[Podcast Host 2]

Here's the thing. It's like, AI is bad for the environment.

[Podcast Host 1]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host 2]

And I think that's what upsets me the most. It's like, it's one thing that I'm looking at this and you're like, ruining the thing I used to look at. But then I look at it and it's so terrible. And I'm like, you ruined the environment for this.

[Podcast Host 1]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host 2]

This is what you ruin the environment for.

[Podcast Host 1]

And you know what? When it comes to AI, that leads it to a very specific theory. And that theory we're going to talk about in the next segment.

[Podcast Host 2]

What's that?

[Podcast Host 1]

Because I don't know if you know this, Mrs. P. The entire Internet is dead.

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[Podcast Host 2]

And we're back.

[Podcast Host 1]

We're back. Here we are.

[Podcast Host 2]

And you're gonna explain to me what dead Internet theory is. You've been screaming it for weeks, and I have not asked you to elaborate because I've been busy doing other things.

[Podcast Host 1]

Yeah. And so basically, there is. There has been a theory that's been out for a very long time.

[Podcast Host 2]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host 1]

That we aren't speaking to people.

[Podcast Host 2]

Okay.

[Podcast Host 1]

Ever. That most of the Internet, if not all of the Internet, since about 2016, 2017, comment sections, all those different things, that none of these are real people. That, in fact, these are all bots.

[Podcast Host 2]

Okay. All right.

[Podcast Host 1]

And that belief.

[Podcast Host 2]

I've seen your Instagram comment section. I can believe it.

[Podcast Host 1]

But that. And that belief has actually gotten worse since the rollout of Chat GPT. Specifically because Chat GPT is the first one where there's a language model before the bots might be like, hey, we're going to create a bot that anytime somebody posts, like in 2016, anytime somebody posts, I'm voting for Hillary Clinton, it would. Would reply. You mean Killery Clinton.

[Podcast Host 2]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host 1]

You know what I mean?

[Podcast Host 2]

Like, that's like when you were. I remember when you started trying to explain this to me before was when was it threads or Blue Sky? And every time somebody posted something nice, they got responded to by hate comments.

[Podcast Host 1]

Yes.

[Podcast Host 2]

Because, like, the point is to make people hate the platform and leave.

[Podcast Host 1]

It's also to destroy discourse.

[Podcast Host 2]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host 1]

So. So one thing, you know, this is. We're working on a couple of different things, and this one in particular is. Is a. This is kind of like a term of service that I want all of you guys to keep in mind.

[Podcast Host 2]

Okay.

[Podcast Host 1]

Okay. Everybody out there listening, you know, listening at home, in the car, anything. When you're on the Internet and a stranger is rude to you, block them.

[Podcast Host 2]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host 1]

If they say something you don't like, or they. And especially if they're doing it in a way that's intentional, not like they're like, oh, I like carrots. And they're like, well, I'm more of a pee guy. That's done. That's fine. But if you're like, I like carrots. They're like, oh, oh, you fucking hate peas. Block them. Block that person. Because more than likely that person, especially, as we saw on Blue sky, and a few data scientists that I've been talking to have been pointing this stuff out. They are designed to destroy confidence and any sort of possibility of unity.

[Podcast Host 2]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host 1]

These, they're beyond trolls. Their existence is literally to sow discord. Their existence is literally to break our brains.

[Podcast Host 2]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host 1]

And we've said. I think I've said this before. I don't know if it's on episode. The warm up. But. Or if it was on a specific episode of the pod before you were.

[Podcast Host 2]

Just yelling in the living room.

[Podcast Host 1]

I don't know. This is all comes together, like, so often, but there are different types of bots that do different types of things. And I saw it on Blue sky. But I also know that for a fact that they exist on Twitter.

[Podcast Host 2]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host 1]

And their job is literally to make you, the human user, feel like your opinion is worthless.

[Podcast Host 2]

So you'll not.

[Podcast Host 1]

That you'll stop sharing, that you'll stop talking, that you also will believe that whatever you think is not the majority. So therefore something that might not be in the majority could seem like it has a mandate.

[Podcast Host 2]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host 1]

So I mean, that's just like part of the theory. But the other part of it is that there is not only coordinated bot. That it's not only coordinated bots that are out there, but that the masters of the bots may have lost control.

[Podcast Host 2]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Podcast Host 1]

And so it's bots talking to bots looping back into themselves. Which is how we end up on Facebook with 10,000 comments saying, oh, my God, I love shrimp Jesus.

[Podcast Host 2]

Yeah. Because it's it. While I think some of our grandparents are responding to shrimp Jesus.

[Podcast Host 1]

Yes.

[Podcast Host 2]

I do think that it's just bots responding to shrimp Jesus.

[Podcast Host 1]

For those of you guys who don't know what shrimp Jesus is, please Google it, please. No, you can. You can Google it. But also if you go to the.

[Podcast Host 2]

Wikipedia page, there's actually too many. If you Google it.

[Podcast Host 1]

Yeah. If you go to the Wikipedia page for dead Internet theory, there is a picture of shrimp Jesus.

[Podcast Host 2]

Oh, there he is. Yeah, Jesus.

[Podcast Host 1]

He's there. But basically what you need to know is AI. The AI models that have been running a lot of different. Especially Facebook pages and groups.

[Podcast Host 2]

Yep.

[Podcast Host 1]

That are full of AI models that are posing as actual accounts. What they have been doing is they've created a feedback loop where they know they'll put in a basic thing like, listen, we know that we're aiming for dumb conservatives living in the middle of the country. And what do they love? They love Jesus.

[Podcast Host 2]

Yep.

[Podcast Host 1]

And so over time, a couple of people who are in there also might be posting about like, hey, I just got back from Louisiana. I had a really good time eating crawfish.

[Podcast Host 2]

Mm.

[Podcast Host 1]

All right, now we have two data points. They love Jesus, and they love crawfish.

[Podcast Host 2]

And bubble gum shrimp.

[Podcast Host 1]

And slowly, over time, these things start to get melded together, and so weirder and weirder stuff starts to pour out to the point where now, like, people have very little confidence that anyone we're speaking, unless you specifically know them, and you walk up to them at a bar and they're like, hey, I love your Facebook post the other day.

[Podcast Host 2]

Yeah. No one's ever said that in the last 20 years.

[Podcast Host 1]

No. Yeah, it's last time.

[Podcast Host 2]

So he said, I loved your Facebook post.

[Podcast Host 1]

The last time I heard somebody say that. I've. You know, I love following you on Facebook or any of that different stuff I want to say was about 2015.

[Podcast Host 2]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host 1]

So. Yeah. About 10 years ago. Yeah. Because I used to. That was one thing that used to really annoy me with Facebook, which was when I ran into people I hadn't seen in a while. I had nothing to tell them.

[Podcast Host 2]

Yes.

[Podcast Host 1]

Because they were silently following me.

[Podcast Host 2]

I mean, you and I still get in arguments about stuff like this, over sharing, so that when you sit down to dinner, there's nothing to talk about.

[Podcast Host 1]

What are we gonna fucking talk about? That. And that's why I stopped. I actually. You and I stopped texting each other what was happening at work throughout the day. So we actually had something to talk about when we sat down, because I'd be like, oh, yeah. You know, and so. And so was a real. At work, you're like, I know you texted me. And when you're in on your smoke break. And I'm like, oh, yeah, I forgot. And then you'd be like, yeah, and this fucking idiot didn't fill out the payroll. I'm like, I know you texted me before you drove to that other event. Like, oh. And then we just sat there like, we're just two people now, just staring at our phones. Yeah.

[Podcast Host 2]

So we had to make a conscious effort to not.

[Podcast Host 1]

Yeah. To not talk about that.

[Podcast Host 2]

So. And so that we can have conversations.

[Podcast Host 1]

But that same thing happened to us for Facebook, and especially if you were somebody like Mrs. P and myself, who we don't want to toot our own horn, but we live a more interesting life than most of the people we would run into.

[Podcast Host 2]

Whoa.

[Podcast Host 1]

Who we hadn't seen since high school.

[Podcast Host 2]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host 1]

And so they'd be like, oh, I saw that you were doing stand up. Or I saw that you just got back from this place. Or, oh, yeah, I saw, like, two years ago. And I'm like, did I? And, like, I forget but you forgot.

[Podcast Host 2]

You were on Philly Day earlier.

[Podcast Host 1]

Yeah, I forgot I was on Filter. That was two days ago. I was on a. Fuck. I was on a YouTube live with Philip DeFranco.

[Podcast Host 2]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host 1]

With 25,000 people watching simultaneously. And that same day there was an article about me being the Philadelphia face of Red Note in the news. I completely forgot all this stuff.

[Podcast Host 2]

And that same, same day our son took his first steps.

[Podcast Host 1]

Son took his first steps. And also, also that was around the same time I found out that Fox News made me the face of crying influencers. We didn't even talk about that earlier. I forgot. Yeah.

[Podcast Host 2]

Dead Internet.

[Podcast Host 1]

Dead Internet. Because again, all this things to it.

[Podcast Host 2]

Wait, we have to talk about the Ashley bots.

[Podcast Host 1]

Yes, we're going to. Okay, we're going to talk about right now. So there's a thing that I know, the reason why I don't trust 90. There's a. There's a certain way. And this is for the listeners. This is how you can tell you can spot a bot immediately. Yeah. Number one, go to their page. All right. First thing. And this, listen, this isn't forever. This isn't specifically for everybody. This is a specific bot that I get targeted by a lot in my comments. Yeah. Is. Is the, is the person wearing a bikini in the profile picture? Yeah, more than likely.

[Podcast Host 2]

That's a.

[Podcast Host 1]

But that's a bottle. I have two bots in particular. There's also more, but there's two that. There's this one botnet really enjoys. One is named Ashley Ivy and the other one's named Wendy Ivy. You can type them into TikTok, Ashley Ivy or Wendy Ivy. And there's thousands of them. They all are like, that's Ashley Ivy. And then a string of numbers. Ashley Ivy has the same picture on all of them. And then when you go to her page, there are five photos. Yeah, they're always the same five photos. They're all AI generated. And then she has a link to sign that is an only fans knockoff that is there to steal your identity. Yeah, that's completely what this is. That's what this is.

[Podcast Host 2]

It's called only Franz.

[Podcast Host 1]

Yep.

[Podcast Host 2]

It says pictures of Fran Drescher. And then I paid for it because I was like, I love Fran Dresser.

[Podcast Host 1]

I love Fran Drescher.

[Podcast Host 2]

I was working at a shop. So I gave them on your credit. Your credit card.

[Podcast Host 1]

Yeah, my credit card.

[Podcast Host 2]

Thank you so much.

[Podcast Host 1]

That's fine.

[Podcast Host 2]

Sorry about that.

[Podcast Host 1]

That's fine. Well, I typed in your Social Security number into Facebook. Yeah.

[Podcast Host 2]

Oh my God.

[Podcast Host 1]

Well, because they said. They said that I. If I wanted to get verified on TikTok, I had to type it into Facebook.

[Podcast Host 2]

Oh.

[Podcast Host 1]

That was one of the conspiracies I saw today. Someone got sent a phishing email where the phishers. Because I get them all the time. The people who are sending the scams.

[Podcast Host 2]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host 1]

Forget if they're pretending to be Facebook or if they're pretending to be TikTok, because they're just mass blasting them. So their profile picture on Google or whatever they're using that pops up is the meta symbol. But then they claim their TikTok and they're like, this is proof that Meta bought TikTok. I'm like, no, that's proof that that's a phishing scam. Oh, my God. Don't click that. Does nobody do phishing scam emails anymore?

[Podcast Host 2]

The only thing I got from that was mass blasting.

[Podcast Host 1]

Anyway, what Ashley Bot does is she takes my caption or the AI also reads my subtitles.

[Podcast Host 2]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host 1]

From my. Very funny subtitles.

[Podcast Host 2]

Very funny.

[Podcast Host 1]

From the entire video. And then it replies using a ChatGPT style summary. And you'll also notice these on Twitter and you'll also notice these on Blue sky, and you'll also notice these on Instagram a lot. So if I make a video and I write the caption to be. I really enjoyed the Garfield movie. However, there's a few things I really didn't like about it. Hashtag Garfield. Hashtag Chris Pratt Baddad. If that's what it was, Ashley Ivy will respond, glad you enjoyed the Garfield movie. Too bad about that. But, dad, that's in it. Yeah, like, that's what Ashley Ivy will respond. And don't you hear how that already feels shitty? It already feels gross. This is what that bot does. And what it's doing is this one in particular is trying to grab on and then pull, pull forward. The one negative bot that I found that all it does is post hate towards whatever anybody is saying.

[Podcast Host 2]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host 1]

If you say you like something, it immediately goes, you're wrong. The one was we watched was the Interior Chinatown. Interior Chinatown. Hulu. It was great movie. A TV show.

[Podcast Host 2]

Really, really great book.

[Podcast Host 1]

Great book. Everything. We're watching it. We watched like the first three episodes. And I was like, you know, blue sky's a little different. I really enjoy it. I like the people there. And it's. It's not as toxic as Twitter.

[Podcast Host 2]

Yep.

[Podcast Host 1]

So I. I skied it. Because that's what they're called. We call it Skeets. So I skeeted. Hey, Watching Interior Chinatown, first three episodes. This is really good. I think I found a new favorite show.

[Podcast Host 2]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host 1]

And then someone replied, that show sucks and you're an idiot for liking it. That's all it says. That show sucks and you're an idiot for liking it. I was like, yo, fuck. Like, what is this? And like, I screenshotted them and I blocked them.

[Podcast Host 2]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host 1]

And I wrote a post about it. And then somebody replied like, oh, that's a bot. I said, what? And then I unblocked it when looked and all it was, its whole feed was whatever you're talking about. Oh, that's stupid and you're dumb.

[Podcast Host 2]

Yep.

[Podcast Host 1]

Over and over again, over and over and over and over and over again. And we're like, why did this exist? And then slowly somebody explained it. It is there to make you not want to talk.

[Podcast Host 2]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host 1]

So that way you'll be quiet, you'll get. Any time you speak, you get beaten down.

[Podcast Host 2]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host 1]

Which is why the only safe comment section on the Internet can be [e-mail].

[Podcast Host 2]

Yeah, I mean, that's not wrong.

[Podcast Host 1]

That's not wrong. We have elite commenters [e-mail] on the Patreon especially. Especially among. Our grandfather didn't. Hey, Huns, Our team leads our downline fed here.

[Podcast Host 2]

Hey, what were we talking about was the new fed tier? The other day we said was so. Oh, was somebody in the federal government listening to our podcast? And I was like, they got to pay fed tier.

[Podcast Host 1]

Oh, no, no, no. Because what we said is we lost our Chinese spy and now it's going to be an FBI. Yeah. If you want to. If you really want to know what we're doing on our phones, you got.

[Podcast Host 2]

To pay fed tier tier.

[Podcast Host 1]

$30 fed tier. Yeah. But the. In general, with like all this different stuff, the Internet at this point, it's gonna get even worse because the thing that people really liked about TikTok was we had pretty good idea that who you were looking at was real. Is a person.

[Podcast Host 2]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host 1]

And even that is now getting wild back with more AI.

[Podcast Host 2]

So what we're saying is. Or what I'm thinking is I can't speak for anybody else but myself. I'm so saying we're going outside.

[Podcast Host 1]

Well, exactly, we're going outside. But also more importantly, touring artists, touring comedians, touring podcasts, all these different things are going to become more. More and more important.

[Podcast Host 2]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host 1]

Because that is going to be your verification. Because I don't know if you guys know this dead Internet theory is coming to podcast.

[Podcast Host 2]

Oh, Yeah, I saw that. Where you can just like, make a Chat GPT podcaster.

[Podcast Host 1]

Yes.

[Podcast Host 2]

They're listening to my voice right now and they're like, is that Jenna Marbles?

[Podcast Host 1]

Yeah, they are. They are, but also at the same time. And it was totally scary. It's an interesting idea. That's the thing, is some of these things were not designed in malice.

[Podcast Host 2]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host 1]

And this one kind of blew my mind because for those of you guys don't know, the backstory I had for myself, I had a job working in data entry at a bank. And they were like, this is a really good job. Like, all these different things. And I was like, yeah. And I was hoping that when I first got the job, like, oh, I could keep that for like, 30 years. And then chat G GPT rolled out and I saw how fast automation was taking over. I was like, this job won't exist in two years.

[Podcast Host 2]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host 1]

And that wasn't the reason why I pivoted towards content creation, but it was one of the things that didn't make me scared to pivot towards content. Like, either way, I don't have a job. Once I heard this podcast thing, I know exactly why it was created. It was created because, hey, let's say we had to read a book like Bored Gay Werewolf, right?

[Podcast Host 2]

You don't have to. You can listen to our podcast episode and I'll explain the entire book to you. And it's super fun. But then you should probably read it too, because it's super fun to read.

[Podcast Host 1]

It too, but also at the same exact time. Why wait for us to read the entire book when now you can type in Give me a summary of Bored Gay Werewolf. That sounds like a husband and wife duo sitting across from each other at a desk explaining to this in pithy ways. And what they did is they trained an AI model on a lot of two and three person podcasts. And you can even hear them get things a little bit wrong, redouble down, dial back all those different things to the point where, like, it was scary.

[Podcast Host 2]

Yeah. It was gross.

[Podcast Host 1]

And it was. It was horrifying. And then when I was listening to, I was like, oh, you morons don't realize you may have just destroyed another industry.

[Podcast Host 2]

They love destroying an industry.

[Podcast Host 1]

But the thing is, is they think they're being helpful because some people only really do learn information this way now.

[Podcast Host 2]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host 1]

Where they're like, hey, it's easier for me to listen to a podcast and go and listen to people go back and forth.

[Podcast Host 2]

So when we were looking at it, I. The One where they was like a textbook chapter of homework.

[Podcast Host 1]

Yeah. They were explaining, like quantum physics. Yeah.

[Podcast Host 2]

They had two people explaining the homework. And I said, oh, my God. Actually, that would have helped me so much in high school.

[Podcast Host 1]

Yes.

[Podcast Host 2]

Oh, that would have been so useful.

[Podcast Host 1]

It's taking difficult topics and making a conversational, which is kind of what we do.

[Podcast Host 2]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host 1]

But also what I do on TikTok. Yeah, but like that.

[Podcast Host 2]

I feel as though maybe you've been targeted by these chat GPT that they've been monitoring you through Stargate that's coming soon.

[Podcast Host 1]

You guys know about the Stargate half trillion dollar AI that's going to build personalized MRNA vaccines to get rid of the cancer, where they get all the.

[Podcast Host 2]

Genetics from, I don't know, 23. So the Internet's dead. We're going outside.

[Podcast Host 1]

Yeah. But this is also one of those things where all. As we talk through the eulogies.

[Podcast Host 2]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host 1]

And we talk through these. All these things, all these little puzzle pieces start to come together and you draw your own conclusion.

[Podcast Host 2]

No, no, no.

[Podcast Host 1]

Our own. Draw your own conclusion. Do your research.

[Podcast Host 2]

No. Oh, my God. This is how we become a tinfoil hat podcast.

[Podcast Host 1]

Oh, yeah. Well, you know, have to become a tinfoil hat podcast. But I start selling hair pills.

[Podcast Host 2]

Oh, hell yeah, dude. Yeah, we're selling hair pills.

[Podcast Host 1]

We're gonna start selling y'all buckets of Mac and cheese.

[Podcast Host 2]

Oh, no. The dry goods for the. That's what he said.

[Podcast Host 1]

Apocalypse. Listen here, patriots, there's an AI data center coming near you and they're going to try to sweep up your kids.

[Podcast Host 2]

So anyway, we're going to sell pickle buckets filled with powdered potatoes.

[Podcast Host 1]

And you know what, Mrs. P, with that, I think this has been an incredible episode.

[Podcast Host 2]

I. What? I feel like we've been everywhere.

[Podcast Host 1]

We have been. This has been a little bit more all over the place than usual, but because we've been in a little bit more all over the place plays as a people.

[Podcast Host 2]

Yeah. In fairness, it wasn't the normal researched episode because it's been the weirdest week so far.

[Podcast Host 1]

So far.

[Podcast Host 2]

So far.

[Podcast Host 1]

So for all of our listeners out there, we are about to do shout outs.

[Podcast Host 2]

Hell yeah.

[Podcast Host 1]

And then we're also going to pepper in some extra lore, as we always do.

[Podcast Host 2]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host 1]

And then we're going to tell you all the secret code word at the end of the episode that we'd love to hear you say down in the comments.

[Podcast Host 2]

I guess I start trying to think.

[Podcast Host 1]

Of it, of the algorithms. So if you are not already a member of our Patreon, Pearlmania500.net is where you can join us or you can follow us across all of social media content there. There's so much hours and hours. I know you think you're like, oh, I've already listened to every episode of your podcast. Well, have you listened to every episode of the Warm Up? Have you listened to every episode of Vibing out with the Food Moron? Or have you seen any of the other special things that we have planned for in the near future? What are those plans?

[Podcast Host 2]

We don't know.

[Podcast Host 1]

We don't even know them.

[Podcast Host 2]

We write them down and then I lose the post its.

[Podcast Host 1]

But that's the reason why? Because we don't trust Google Drive anymore.

[Podcast Host 2]

Why?

[Podcast Host 1]

Because they're using it to train our LMMs.

[Podcast Host 2]

They literally are training other podcasts. They steal my podcast episodes I wrote. Yeah.

[Podcast Host 1]

Also Facebook Openly admits on llama4 that they're using all of everything to train. We're all being replaced slowly. Because if you're not paying for it, you're the commodity. All right, calm down. We'll be right back with our shout.

[Podcast Host 2]

Outs and it'll be way more fun than whatever he just said.

[Podcast Host 1]

Yeah.

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[Podcast Host 2]

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[Podcast Host 1]

So here are our shout outs.

[Podcast Host 2]

I'm ready.

[Podcast Host 1]

Okay. We have a lot this week.

[Podcast Host 2]

Hell yeah.

[Podcast Host 1]

Number one, we have Caro.

[Podcast Host 2]

Hey, Caro. Wait. Like the syrup? Yeah. That's spelled like their syrup.

[Podcast Host 1]

Is that how it's spelled?

[Podcast Host 2]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host 1]

After that we have Angela Ansman.

[Podcast Host 2]

Hey, hon.

[Podcast Host 1]

After that we have Mm.

[Podcast Host 2]

Mm.

[Podcast Host 1]

It just says it's not M and M. It's just mm. Which could Be mother's milk from the boys.

[Podcast Host 2]

I don't know what that is exactly.

[Podcast Host 1]

I don't let you watch the boys or read the comments.

[Podcast Host 2]

Sounds weird when you say you don't let me.

[Podcast Host 1]

Yeah, well, there's certain things it's not.

[Podcast Host 2]

What happened is. What happened is you said, do you watch the boys meet? I said, no, not really interested.

[Podcast Host 1]

And I said, thank God.

[Podcast Host 2]

And then. Yeah, you said. You muttered under your breath. And I said, I don't know what that was about. And I went to the other room to go do whatever I was doing. And then maybe six episodes in, I was like, you were. You were like, oh, new episodes out. I gotta go watch it. I was like, oh, maybe I'll watch with you. And you're like, you know, don't you dare, you know, watch this.

[Podcast Host 1]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host 2]

I said, why am I not allowed to watch this? You're like, because then you'll know what I watch.

[Podcast Host 1]

It's not that. It's that also one of the other things that happens often is that because this happened with, like, the Avengers for a long time. You and I saw the first Avengers movie together.

[Podcast Host 2]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host 1]

After I already just gone out willy nilly and seen all the other movies.

[Podcast Host 2]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host 1]

And so when we saw the first Avengers, you're like, oh, okay, so this is, like our thing. It's when, like, another one of the Marvel movies came out. I had to wait for you. And then that same thing has happened to us with, like, TV shows over the years. And I was like, with the boys, I was like, you're not even going to like this. Yeah, I knew. That's what I mean. Like, you're not allowed to watch it. It's like. But the only thing I've ever told you actually not allowed to watch was John Wick.

[Podcast Host 2]

Yeah. Because of the puppies.

[Podcast Host 1]

Yeah. Because of the dead dog at the beginning.

[Podcast Host 2]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host 1]

It would be too much for you.

[Podcast Host 2]

We would just watch Traitors. That's all we ever watch.

[Podcast Host 1]

Well, now. Yeah. Because we love Alan Cumming, Bob Drag Queen, and all the others.

[Podcast Host 2]

Oh, Bob.

[Podcast Host 1]

So after. After. Mm. By the way, give them. Mm.

[Podcast Host 2]

Hey, hon.

[Podcast Host 1]

After that we have Angelina Del Rio.

[Podcast Host 2]

Hey, Angelina Del Rio.

[Podcast Host 1]

After that we have Glenda Maldonado Bordner.

[Podcast Host 2]

I hope he got that right for you.

[Podcast Host 1]

Hey, I feel like I did Border. After that we have Bootleg Underscore Bleach.

[Podcast Host 2]

Hey, hey. Hey, hon.

[Podcast Host 1]

Hey. That's. That's crazy. That's a crazy name. After that we have Kai Ward.

[Podcast Host 2]

Hey, Kai Ward.

[Podcast Host 1]

After that we have Charlie Underscore. Nz.

[Podcast Host 2]

Oh, maybe that's New Zealand.

[Podcast Host 1]

Might be New Zealand. It might be. Hey, Charlie, if you are in New.

[Podcast Host 2]

Zealand, can we come live with you?

[Podcast Host 1]

Do you want to sponsor a family?

[Podcast Host 2]

Sponsor a family for a dollar a day. That will give you a dollar a day. That will give you a dollar one day.

[Podcast Host 1]

And then you can wash that dollar for us. After that we have Ellie.

[Podcast Host 2]

Hey, hon.

[Podcast Host 1]

All right, this next one, I have Jeanette. I have Jeanette down.

[Podcast Host 2]

Okay.

[Podcast Host 1]

I'm gonna go with Garula.

[Podcast Host 2]

Okay. Hey, Jeanette.

[Podcast Host 1]

Jeanette. Garula.

[Podcast Host 2]

Hey, hon.

[Podcast Host 1]

After that we have Courtney Morse.

[Podcast Host 2]

Hey, Courtney.

[Podcast Host 1]

After that we have Jillian Nichol.

[Podcast Host 2]

Hey, Jillian.

[Podcast Host 1]

All right, this next one, this a lot.

[Podcast Host 2]

Of course.

[Podcast Host 1]

I'm seeing Underscores Deleting Underscore Streaming_ Services._2_ afford_ A Underscore team. Underscore lead Underscore spot. Underscore finally Underscore Raise the minimum wage. Underscore.

[Podcast Host 2]

That's the. I'm talking about. I don't usually see these, but I had checked the Patreon when I was posting whatever the thing for the food. Food Idiot thing.

[Podcast Host 1]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host 2]

And then this popped up. It just came up across my screen and I laughed so hard because I was like, abso. Fucking lutely.

[Podcast Host 1]

Because also, at the beginning of the year, you've been deleting our streaming. You've been like, I'm not paying for this. I'm not paying for this. I'm not paying for this. Because honestly, that's the thing is it keeps going down to, like, I started to realize, like, Paramount plus, like, I don't really watch that. There's other things. I don't really watch that. And I'm like, why am I paying for any of these fucking things? All I ever do is open them and get sad.

[Podcast Host 2]

No, I just opened my phone and our tv. Like, I went through on the end of December when I was coming down from the chickenpox.

[Podcast Host 1]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host 2]

I was starting to feel my brain again and I said, oh, all the subscriptions are going to renew. What? Can I go through and cancel?

[Podcast Host 1]

Yep.

[Podcast Host 2]

And I made. And then. Oh, and then the one auto charged me and I got so mad. I read so many angry emails.

[Podcast Host 1]

And you got it.

[Podcast Host 2]

I got my refund.

[Podcast Host 1]

Got your money back. After that, we have Most Underscore. Excellent Underscore dude.

[Podcast Host 2]

Most Excellent dude.

[Podcast Host 1]

Hey, honestly, the only subscription I've. I will probably have to pry for my cold dead hands is my canvas subscription.

[Podcast Host 2]

Oh, yeah, you. Well, graphic design is your passion.

[Podcast Host 1]

It is my passion. And anyone watching on the YouTube has seen some crazy new thumbnails.

[Podcast Host 2]

Listen, if you don't. If you're not a YouTubey person, just go take a gander at YouTube to see the beautiful artwork that I've been. I've been making Pearlmania 500 has been making on Canva. He takes a lot of time to make those.

[Podcast Host 1]

And I'm getting better.

[Podcast Host 2]

You are getting.

[Podcast Host 1]

And my thumbnails are getting better.

[Podcast Host 2]

The ones for the bird video. Oh, my God, they're so good.

[Podcast Host 1]

If y'all haven't gotten down. Down with the birds yet. After that, we have Cassandra.

[Podcast Host 2]

Hey, hon. Oh.

[Podcast Host 1]

Oh, Cassandra.

[Podcast Host 2]

Hey, I'm sorry that no one listens to you.

[Podcast Host 1]

I'm sorry. Don't worry, Cassandra. I know exactly what. I know exactly what that's like. Okay. I'm sorry that you can have true prophecies and nobody hears you after that. I. I did. I, like, know for a very long time. That was one of the names I was like, if I ever have a daughter, I'm ironically name her that.

[Podcast Host 2]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host 1]

After that, we have Rob Powell.

[Podcast Host 2]

Hey, hon.

[Podcast Host 1]

Rob Powell.

[Podcast Host 2]

Hey, hon.

[Podcast Host 1]

Good, strong name. After that, we have Hot Marta.

[Podcast Host 2]

Hey, Marta.

[Podcast Host 1]

With. With sparkle emojis built in.

[Podcast Host 2]

Hot. Marta is hot. She made sure to bring the sparkles.

[Podcast Host 1]

She brought the sparkles. Like a real girly.

[Podcast Host 2]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host 1]

You know, and honestly, can I tell you real quick, because sometimes I reply to the messages on my desktop, to the Patreon messages. I want to tell y'all when I write. So you get a thing that says, like, smiley face emoji or thumbs up emoji. That's because I don't know how to do them on my computer. If I. If I'm. I don't answer the messages on my phone because oftentimes people will tell us in messages, like, hey, we don't want.

[Podcast Host 2]

Your name Elder millennial and not younger millennial.

[Podcast Host 1]

Well, no, because I want to make sure I'm not going to write them down separately and then mess it up. So I want to make sure that I don't read the messages until days that we're going to record because I'm always nervous because we used to only get messages that were about the names.

[Podcast Host 2]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host 1]

Hey, I really don't want you to say my government name. I really want you to say this other thing. I didn't figure out how to do that. Yeah. So I have. I don't check the messages as regularly anymore because I wanted to make sure when I pull this list to put into an Excel spreadsheet I'm doing at the right time. I'm explaining to listeners. You're nodding at me.

[Podcast Host 2]

I know.

[Podcast Host 1]

After Hot Marta, we have Shales. Hey, hon, I'm gonna go with shells. It's C, H, A, E, L, Z. It might be chaos.

[Podcast Host 2]

Chaos.

[Podcast Host 1]

I feel like it's Chales. After that, we have Brie. Elliot.

[Podcast Host 2]

Hey, Brie. Hey.

[Podcast Host 1]

Okay, this next one.

[Podcast Host 2]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host 1]

Good job. Appeared underscored, flustered.

[Podcast Host 2]

Oh, okay. There it is.

[Podcast Host 1]

Yep.

[Podcast Host 2]

The lore. Hitting the lore.

[Podcast Host 1]

Can I tell you, when I saw this pop up, I was like, oh, yeah, Fox News did call me that two days ago. I already forgot. I had already forgot. For me, it was a Monday.

[Podcast Host 2]

We used to have memories.

[Podcast Host 1]

We used to bun the baby destroyed them, which I've talked about multiple times on stage and maybe in a YouTube comedy special that might be coming out soon. Boy, we're trying. Trying to get that footage.

[Podcast Host 2]

We try to do things. We try.

[Podcast Host 1]

We really try. But when they said Pearl Mania 500, who appeared flustered?

[Podcast Host 2]

Yep.

[Podcast Host 1]

What a pull.

[Podcast Host 2]

I'm gonna put that over, like, I feel like I want to put a magnet.

[Podcast Host 1]

I said fridge. Well, you know, a few people said that they would want that as a shirt.

[Podcast Host 2]

Yeah. Appeared flustered.

[Podcast Host 1]

Appeared flustered. And I'm like, you know what? We're thinking about some merch. We are thinking about merch. After appeared underscored, flustered, we have Michelle Miller.

[Podcast Host 2]

Hey, Michelle Miller. Hey, hon.

[Podcast Host 1]

After that, we have Shelby Hayes.

[Podcast Host 2]

Hey, Shelby.

[Podcast Host 1]

After that, we have Crystal Blomquist.

[Podcast Host 2]

Crystal Blomquist. That is a good character name.

[Podcast Host 1]

That's a great name.

[Podcast Host 2]

That's like a character name.

[Podcast Host 1]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host 2]

You know what I mean?

[Podcast Host 1]

Yeah, that's. She's a character.

[Podcast Host 2]

She's in. She's in a soap opera.

[Podcast Host 1]

Hey, hon, after that, we have Hitty. Hey, hon, it says H I, D, D. I. I go with Hitty, not Heidi.

[Podcast Host 2]

Okay. Okay, I'm with you.

[Podcast Host 1]

After that, we have Mark Domino.

[Podcast Host 2]

Hey, Mark. Was it with a K or C?

[Podcast Host 1]

Mark with a K. Wow. Why?

[Podcast Host 2]

This is a joke from Empire Records.

[Podcast Host 1]

Oh, is it?

[Podcast Host 2]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host 1]

Oh, Mark with Gotcha. You really boomed me there. You got me good on that one. After Mark Domino, we have Ammers.

[Podcast Host 2]

Hey, Amers.

[Podcast Host 1]

Hey, hon, after that, we have torturing Underscore men. Underscore with underscore fairies. Underscore and underscore smut. Underscore as underscore retribution. Underscore for underscore World affairs. Yeah, that sparkles around world affairs.

[Podcast Host 2]

Incredible. Incredible. I appreciate it. I absolutely agree. 10 out of 10, no notes.

[Podcast Host 1]

Yeah. Torturing men with fairies and smut as retribution for world affairs. And finally.

[Podcast Host 2]

No notes.

[Podcast Host 1]

And finally. Okay, Chell Parson.

[Podcast Host 2]

Hey, hun. Hey, Chell. Parsons.

[Podcast Host 1]

Shell, how are you? You having good? Thank you, Kjell, for making it to the end of the episode.

[Podcast Host 2]

We did it. We gotta come up with a word.

[Podcast Host 1]

We do need to come up with a.

[Podcast Host 2]

What did we talk about? We talked about death of TikTok.

[Podcast Host 1]

Death of TikTok. Dead Internet theory. Oh, I got it. I got it. Okay, everybody get in the comments because this is the word I want you guys all to push from here on out.

[Podcast Host 2]

Okay?

[Podcast Host 1]

Okay. These podcast bros, these guys, that everybody, I've said on the warm up, I'm gonna say it here. I'm gonna say it across the world. These podcast bros, Logan Paul, Joe Rogan, right? Theo Vaughn, all of them were at the inauguration. All of them openly, openly pulled for this presidency. And that man is now the president. You know what that means? That means that Joe Rogan is a fed. That means that Theo Vaughn is a paid shill. That means that Logan Paul is a psyop. So let's start at the top and work backwards from there. Ladies and gentlemen, please write in the comment, joe Rogan is a fed. Thank you guys so much for watching this episode.

[Podcast Host 2]

Oh, my God.

[Podcast Host 1]

Like, subscribe, comment, Give us stars across all of the apps, all of our.

[Podcast Host 2]

Content during our content flood this week.

[Podcast Host 1]

This is our content flood. We're trying to hit you guys with a lot.

[Podcast Host 2]

Get in the ark, baby. There's gonna be a flood. Get the animals.

[Podcast Host 1]

And with that.

[Podcast Host 2]

Why did they put the roaches on the boat?

[Podcast Host 1]

Why'd they save the roaches? Why did they save. It's A fair question, Mrs. P. Why did they save the roaches? Too many frauds and too many scammers that we wish weren't real. Too many cons and too many spammers and we're starting to feel like we've got too many tabs. Open it. Too many tabs. Remember to smile.

[Podcast Host 2]

Foreign.

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