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Renita Hora
You are working on a bunch of your own projects as well, one of which is the Last Waltz. Tell us about it.
Rishi Jaiswal
Yes, I wrote it and I produced it. I hired a wonderful director, Hunter James Cox, who did a wonderful, amazing job with it. It's a film about two parents who have a trans daughter and they used to run a dance studio together and they got together, but then this thing that they have a trans daughter and the dad just can't seem to digest that is the crux of their relationship. And unfortunately, something trag happens to the daughter.
Podcast Narrator
Welcome to the True Fiction Project, a podcast series that explores the origins of fiction. Every week we begin with an interview, nonfiction, followed by a creative piece, fiction inspired by something from the interview. The idea is to demonstrate, of course, that fiction is born out of our life experiences. Now, here's your host, storyteller, author, public speaker, health and wellness expert, Renita Hora.
Renita Hora
Welcome back to the True Fiction Project. I am your host, Rinita Hora. Always looking for the best stories to make this show and entertain audiences. And I have a very special guest today. I'm particularly excited about welcoming to the show Rishi Jaiswal, who I met through our common project, Revolution's Wife. So, hi, Rishi. Welcome to the True Fiction Project.
Rishi Jaiswal
Thank you for having me Excited to be here.
Renita Hora
It is so great to have you on the show and for multiple reasons, of course. And we are gonna talk about your project, the Last Waltz, which is premiering very soon at the LA Shorts Festival. But before that, I would love to talk about Revolution's Wife. This is a project that both of are involved in. I'm directing it, you are acting in it. And I have to say that it was crafted around you. So I'm going to throw this over to you. What led you to Revolution's Wife?
Rishi Jaiswal
I think I had it sent by multiple people to me being like, I think this is good for you. So I didn't come across the listing until it was referred to me. And then as soon as I saw it, I was like, oh, my God, I've always wanted to play a freedom fighter in my life. And then I auditioned for it. You guys, like, it was such a great time meeting you and everything. And yeah, I was just so nervous in the time we didn't hear back because, I don't know, some roles, you just really like one, you feel like it's like, oh, this is aligned with me, you know, how the character thinks, how they function in the world, and you're just so passionate about telling the story. But then, you know, you know, casting is casting. So you waited, but then when you finally got back to me, I was so thrilled and. And on set, I couldn't have had a more magical experience with you directing. It was such wonderful writing and such a compassionate story that I'm so excited for people to see it.
Renita Hora
Rishi, I remember when we were going through the audition process and I know on the actor's side how nerve wracking that can be to sort of wait for that response, but you sent us a poem. Do you remember this?
Rishi Jaiswal
I did, I did. I had recorded it a week before the audition too.
Renita Hora
Tell us about that. Tell our audiences about that. What led you to that, why you sent it?
Rishi Jaiswal
Since I was little, I was born here, but I moved to India when I was 10. And there I really gravitated towards the historical side of education. All the freedom fighter struggles that we had. The Subhash Chandra Bose, the Chandrasekhar Azads, the peaceful, the non peaceful, everything that really, really got into my soul at that time. And then as we went along, when this project came across my desk, I was like, oh, my God, everything I've ever wanted to do in one role. So I've always been very passionate about things like this. I've always been trying to fight for the underdog and when it comes to situations like Gaza, the poem was about Gaza and it was about the atrocities that were going on. And I thought it resonated with the freedom struggle in India so much that I was so passionate about that I could directly transfer it to this character. So I was like, you know, I don't think this is like kosher, but let me just send this poem because it's passionate and they'll see that side of me that I'm so invested in something like this, beyond the lines and the role and stuff. So I was like, let's take a chance. It could go either way.
Renita Hora
I'm so glad you sent it, I really am. Because that passion that rings right through and so much of the time you just don't know what's going to happen. And with this industry and you know, you apply for something, you audition, am I going to get the callback? Am I going to get the audition? You know, those things you just never know because you're right. There's so many people who apply. And even on this side of the camera or the audition room, I should say at that point, you don't know. There are a lot of good actors out there, but like, which one is gonna be the right Fit for Ram. So I'm so glad you did that because it did certainly help us to sort of weed through that process, get to know you better. And I have to say, the entire movie. I think I've mentioned this to you before, but I don't know how seriously you take me. It was really built around you. Are you aware of that?
Rishi Jaiswal
It means the world. It does mean the world. Like, that means so much to me that you trusted me for this role. It's such a big, important role because of our lead character being Padma and everything the antagonist pushes towards her. I would say he's kind of an antagonist, but a general husband of the time, freedom fighter who's very focused on his mission. And I think that's what the story is about here is like, who gets forgotten in these stories. And the way you told it was. So it's kind of like what they're trying to do with the Odyssey now, where it's like, oh, let's tell this story from a universal perspective. Not just female, but let's equalize it. And that's what you did. And I don't think we get to see that other than Chansi Kirani and things like that in the freedom struggle.
Renita Hora
Right? Absolutely. Well, I was just fascinated by Padma. You're right. She is the lead. She's the protagonist. This is her story. But without a Ram, there is no Padma.
Rishi Jaiswal
Let's be perfectly clear. Opposite Ram. This is not Ram, Sita. This is Ram. Padma.
Renita Hora
Exactly. Exactly. And she became the Padma that, you know, she is. At the end of the film. She has a story arc, very clear story arc. So where she starts out, what she is to where she ends up and who she becomes or is, is becoming is a clear function of Ram. And his attitude towards her, his treatment of her, what he, let's just say, uses her for. If. If I'm gonna put it in those words and no spoilers, we have to leave that in her. Two audiences to watch the film. So for me, as a director, very critical was to find the right Ram. Of course, to find the right Padma. And the universe has a way of just doing things that are beyond us and we plan as best as we can, but we actually had a different Padma initially cast. And for one reason or the other, that didn't work out. And I was kind of devastated in the middle of all of that and really turned to you, and you rescued me. You rescued the movie, but you rescued me.
Rishi Jaiswal
I mean, it was all the work you already did. I was just making suggestions, but at the end of the day, it was like, who knew a war would break out in the middle of our shoot? So, I mean, the way you pulled this production together, I think. And it was pitched at Sundance, right? Like, this project was so. Oh, my God, I can't wait for people to see this. It's gonna be beautiful the way it came together. You're right. The universe has its own way. So I just can't wait for the journey ahead.
Renita Hora
What was funny, and funny is not even the right word, was after that, once we were in production, actually on set, Candace, my co writer and co producer, says to me, she's like, I mean, this is the perfect Padma and Ram. I mean, visually, the way they interact with each other, the chemistry, like, why did we not see this earlier? And I'm like, oh, you had no idea.
Rishi Jaiswal
I knew her also, right? I knew Nosheen.
Renita Hora
Exactly.
Rishi Jaiswal
It's good to go network, meet people.
Renita Hora
What was ironic was that I happened to be at Sundance last year only because I was selected to be part of a pitch showcase to pitch this project. And that was in one of the rooms at Sundance. And then, as luck would have it, or luck or I don't know what, the hands of the universe. I'm walking down that street. It is cold as anything. All I'm doing is complaining about the cold and thinking about why Robert Redford or anyone else. Whose great idea exactly was it to have, you know, a film festival in the middle of frigging winter?
Rishi Jaiswal
They're moving it, correct or no? Are they moving it to la?
Renita Hora
Well, they're moving it to. No, they're moving it to Boulder. It's as bad.
Rishi Jaiswal
Boulder, Colorado.
Renita Hora
And then I run into Nosheen. I just run into her literally on the road while I'm complaining in my head, and she's like, oh. We look at each other and we're like, oh. Oh, hi. Hi. And for a minute, it was awkward because she had actually already auditioned for the role. And in my head, I was like, oh, my gosh, what am I gonna say to her? You know, we ended up spending the afternoon together that day at Sundance and the rest of the day, and we had this conversation, part of which was, how do we actually work on a project together in the future that gets into Sundance? That's so ironic. Now, it's not as if to say we've even applied for this movie to be in Sundance just yet, but the way all of that worked out. And then she becomes Padma eventually.
Rishi Jaiswal
There is a thing to be said that once you put in the work. I call it the invisible hand of the universe that helps you get there. I asked Noshin a long time ago. I was like, so you spend money sometimes to go and invest to these festivals, even sometimes when you don't have a film there, Is it worth it? That's my conservative brain thinking. The only reason she met you is because she put that work in. She took the initiative to go all the way to Sundance and just spent a lunch with the director who she never knew. So, like, when directors audition us and we don't get the role, we don't blame the director. We just go within ourselves and be like, sometimes it's, oh, what could I have done better? Other times you're just like, universe. I tried my best. That's all you can do, you know?
Renita Hora
But it's amazing also how these things work out because I remember when you came for the costume fitting, which was like, even before we were on set, there was all this conversation about your shirt and the color of the shirt. Is it too bright? It was very bright color. And you did this very silly but wonderful dance which you put on your social media, your Instagram story. And I was like, wow, I never knew he was a dancer. That opened my eyes.
Rishi Jaiswal
That's where I started. I started on so youo Think youk Can Dance, Good Morning America shows like that. So that's before acting. It started with dance and I just had to speak, that's all.
Renita Hora
Well, when you're from India, the acting and the dancing is all part of the same.
Rishi Jaiswal
It's in the blood. It's in. My 90 year old grandma will get up and dance. It's in the blood.
Renita Hora
I loved that. In fact. Okay, so it's got me thinking about something else. But we'll, we'll later.
Rishi Jaiswal
This needs to be an hour long.
Renita Hora
Oh, my gosh. Life is too short. Please.
Rishi Jaiswal
I know, I know.
Renita Hora
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Rishi Jaiswal
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Rishi Jaiswal
I'll take you a little bit back. When I moved to India, I was kind of without my parents. I was with another family there that I was staying. My parents were still here. And as an out, like, kind of like, event, I took to dance. Like, Hrithik Roshan was a new thing. So I would watch all his things and just learn all his dance moves. And that's where I was getting attention and love, the love I was missing from home and parents and things because they were here. And once I got into college, I was doing the normal Indian thing. I was an aerospace engineer in second, third. But I was also running the dance team there. And we had a dance team of all freshmen people who was going up against the biggest of the big UC San Diego, ucsc. And we went to Philadelphia. And I remember telling our team, I would walk into rehearsal every day with this finger and be like, we're winning number one. No matter what we're winning. And they'd be like, this guy's crazy. We have a bunch of freshman people, two left feet all over the place. But we did. We won that thing. And that's what got me into dance. So while I was studying aerospace engineering, I was also contracted to be part of Bollywood Step, which was a dance company. And then I moved on to ndm. And from ndm, we got to go on so youo Think youk Can Dance. Good Morning America. Superstars of Dance. Like a bunch of big TV shows. And I was like, oh, this is nice. I get paid to be a part of this. And there's lights on me and people are looking at me, and I get to dance and have fun. Okay, but now I'm in fourth year of engineering. What do I do? And that's where I made this crazy decision to leave and go to the American Academy of Dramatic Arts. I auditioned and I got into that because I do believe in following your fears. Like, that's my number one rule in your life. You have to follow your fears, because then the world is free, right? So once I did that, I went to the American Academy of Dramatic Arts, kept dancing and then, yeah, from there, tv, feature films, commercials, you name it. Theater. I got to be on a Broadway show that traveled the country for a year in Lifetime. Got to be playing an Indian character with a lungi. And, like, it was just a magical experience. Yeah. And then came Renita. While I was in the tour, while I was in my green room, I was like, I need you. I need to audition for this, guys. And we did it in. In the dressing room 30 minutes before I was supposed to be on stage.
Renita Hora
And that was like another hand of the universe because we had just signed on Anoop Kulkarni, who is our director of photography for Revolution's Wife, and he had worked on Life of PI.
Rishi Jaiswal
The movie. The movie. How crazy is that? Synchronicity.
Renita Hora
Exactly. And then right after that, I see your resume, whatever audition application. I was like, life of PI. Okay. Like, what's happening here? You know, so this is interesting. You were more afraid of acting and the acting life than you were of life out of space. That's.
Rishi Jaiswal
Oh, that's very easy. Aerospace is very easy when you can take a book and then just know the information and apply it. Acting free for all, man. Go do what you want with this character is nerve wracking, but it's way more satisfying to me.
Renita Hora
Love the perspective. So you are working on a bunch of your own projects as well, one of which is the Last Waltz and you're acting in it. You have created that project, is that right?
Rishi Jaiswal
Tell us about it. Yes, I wrote it and I produced it. I hired a wonderful director, Hunter James Cox, who did a wonderful, amazing job with it. It's a film about two parents who have a trans daughter and they used to run a dance studio together. And they got together, but then this thing that they have a trans daughter and the dad just can't seem to digest that is the crux of their relationship. And unfortunately, something trag happens to the daughter and we're showing glimpses of their story in this that led to whatever tragic situation they're in. So it's told from the perspective of South Asian parents, which I really wanted to introduce this concept to the South Asian community, through which I'm happy we
Renita Hora
can do that is so important. And that is, I think, another thing that connects you and me a lot, because it's a lot of our original work is perspectives of the South Asian experience. Why this particular story, this particular topic about a trans daughter or a trans child? What was it about this that drew you to it?
Rishi Jaiswal
If I have to speak personally, I think dance falls in a very yin and yang place. It's a very like, you're both masculine and feminine when you're doing that. And I think that's how we relate to the trans experience. So I could be the most liberal person in the world. I could be most accepting of everyone. But then I was like, what if there's an American born South Asian who this Situation happens in their house. They're very pro everyone. But how do they, while not understanding what their child is going through, support them? And if they don't support them, is that a tragic character? And that's what I wanted to explore. I'm speaking to a mother. I know, but you don't need to understand your children. You just need to support them. We're not raising kids, we raise cattle. We're nurturing a plant. Right? So whatever that plant becomes, you don't know how long its branches will go. Right? You just water the plant as best as you can, toil the soil. Right? That's what the story is about.
Renita Hora
Hope that there's no weed seed underneath because that doesn't take over the garden.
Rishi Jaiswal
You pray and you just look out for the weeds as best you can. But after a certain point, you also. Your hands start. Okay, you're your own adult. You're going to make your own decisions now.
Renita Hora
No, absolutely. And I love that, Rishi, because you're so right. Too often, parents in general, South Asian parents, it's like they need to control everything. They need to control the perfect outcome. I'm working on a comedy story right now which hopefully will go into production next year. And it's very much about that. It's like the obsessive South Asian mother, father, and get off my back, you know, in comedy. So a totally different world, but this is it. And we can't control as parents. We cannot. That's not the reason why we brought these human beings into this universe. So I love that you are exploring that. I love that you are exploring that through the kind of dilemma which feels like such a challenge to a South Asian parent. Shouldn't be. But it feels like that, you know?
Rishi Jaiswal
Absolutely.
Renita Hora
And I love that you're exploring it through dance, which is sort of, let's say, your first love, in a sense. So the Last Waltz is going to premiere fairly soon. Is that right?
Rishi Jaiswal
First week of August at the LA Shorts International Film Festival, which is an Oscar and BAFTA qualifying. So One step closer.
Renita Hora
Yay. So you know that we will be rooting for you, all of us.
Rishi Jaiswal
Oh, my God, that's amazing. I can't wait for you guys to see it.
Renita Hora
Yeah, I can't wait to see. And what is the journey for the movie after that? Is it other festivals?
Rishi Jaiswal
We're gonna find out right now. It's in festivals. So we're gonna do our festival run. And then after that, right now, we just want the story to get to as many people as possible.
Renita Hora
Fantastic. And Is that. Would you say your main project right now that you're focused on?
Rishi Jaiswal
I think that's kind of coming to an end now. The festival run will take over. The next project we're working on is a play I did back in 2019 that I'm bringing back called Radicals, that deals with the Iran war and everything, and it talks about the effect of warfare on civilian populations and how one person's terrorist is another person's radical, is another person's freedom fighter. And showing the same thing from the Americans perspective, as well as the Indian perspective, where I use Kashmir as a backdrop for Gaza and talk about everything that's going on in India. Everything I want to talk about is in this play. And it's an action play. It's super cool. So we applied for this amazing $40,000 grant, the LA NPP grant that we find out in October. And if we get that amazing. If not, we're still going to do it in February. So look out for that.
Renita Hora
My gosh. I mean, it's. It makes perfect sense why we started with Revolution's wife. Just perfect sense now.
Rishi Jaiswal
Perfect sense. Yeah. I love that. Yeah.
Renita Hora
A friend of mine said to me, if you couldn't be the freedom fighter yourself because you weren't born back in the day, then just the very fact that you live to tell their stories makes you a freedom fighter.
Rishi Jaiswal
So that's so beautiful. That's amazing.
Renita Hora
So that's you and me, both of us. Okay. Rishi, this is wonderful. I am very much looking forward to seeing the Last Waltz. So what should we be looking out? What should be on our radar? Where can we find out about the screenings, the showings, that kind of thing?
Rishi Jaiswal
You can follow me on my Instagram. It's the Rishi Jaiswal. And there I will post all about when we get our schedule for the screening. And I hope to see you guys there. All the support means the world.
Renita Hora
Fantastic. Well, we will definitely be rooting for you, as I said, and we will include all of the links and everything in our show notes. So definitely be sure to send us those. And yeah, when there is further news to announce, other showings, whether in LA or elsewhere, please let us know because we'll add those to our show notes so that our audiences are always informed.
Rishi Jaiswal
And Revolution's Wife is coming very soon too, so keep a lookout for that. I can't be more excited. Oh, my God.
Renita Hora
Absolutely. Now that we've had this Q and A, we're going to segue into the fiction portion of the podcast, which Is. So that's. The True Fiction Project is the journey of a story from its non fiction roots to its fictional outcome. So we've talked about the backstory of the Last Waltz and so now we'll go into the fiction portion where we will view what like a portion of the movie or the trailer or something like that.
Rishi Jaiswal
Now we can take a look at the trailer real quick and you'll get a glimpse of what the movie looks like and the beautiful cinematography and the music. Yeah.
Renita Hora
Cannot wait. Cannot wait. Thank you Rishi. Thank you so much for being on the True Fiction Project today. And I am dying to see the Last Waltz.
Rishi Jaiswal
Thank you for having me and thank you for choosing me as your actor. It was a pleasure working with you.
Renita Hora
Always a pleasure, Rishi. That is Rishi Jaiswal. He is the lead male actor in Revolution's Wife. Here today on the True Fiction Project talking about his his upcoming short film the Last Waltz. And I am your host, Renita Hora. This is the True Fiction Project. Can you even say her name?
Rishi Jaiswal
Having a baby boy,
Renita Hora
your son cannot be going around this school telling people to call him a girl.
Rishi Jaiswal
If this behavior continues, we'll have to expel your son from the school.
Renita Hora
My daughter actually. What's wrong? Where were you when I needed you?
Rishi Jaiswal
Do you still blame me?
Renita Hora
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Date: July 31, 2026
Host: Reenita Hora
Guest: Rishi Jaiswal
In this episode, host Reenita Hora welcomes actor, writer, and producer Rishi Jaiswal to discuss his new short film, The Last Waltz, premiering at the LA Shorts Festival. The conversation explores the intersection of personal and cultural storytelling, particularly through the lens of the South Asian experience in both non-fiction and fiction. The discussion seamlessly shifts from their collaboration on the film Revolution's Wife to Rishi’s creative motivations, background in dance, and his latest work addressing the narratives of trans children and their families. The episode culminates with a preview of both the non-fiction journey and the fictionalized narrative that The Last Waltz brings to life.
“Some roles, you just really like, you feel like it's like, oh, this is aligned with me... The poem was about Gaza and it was about the atrocities that were going on. And I thought it resonated with the freedom struggle in India so much that I was so passionate about that I could directly transfer it to this character.”
— Rishi Jaiswal [03:26]
“The universe has a way of just doing things that are beyond us and we plan as best as we can…”
— Reenita Hora [06:08]
“That's where I started. I started on So You Think You Can Dance, Good Morning America, shows like that. So that's before acting. It started with dance and I just had to speak, that's all.”
— Rishi Jaiswal [11:02]
“You have to follow your fears, because then the world is free, right?”
— Rishi Jaiswal [13:19]
“It's a film about two parents who have a trans daughter, and they used to run a dance studio together... the dad just can't seem to digest that is the crux of their relationship. And unfortunately, something tragic happens to the daughter.”
— Rishi Jaiswal [15:39]
“You don't need to understand your children. You just need to support them. We're not raising kids, we raise cattle. We're nurturing a plant... That's what the story is about.”
— Rishi Jaiswal [16:42]
“If you couldn't be the freedom fighter yourself... then just the very fact that you live to tell their stories makes you a freedom fighter.”
— Reenita Hora [20:27]
On Universe and Opportunity:
“There is a thing to be said that once you put in the work. I call it the invisible hand of the universe that helps you get there.”
— Rishi Jaiswal [09:52]
On Parental Support:
“You don't need to understand your children. You just need to support them.”
— Rishi Jaiswal [16:42]
On Art and Resistance:
“If you couldn't be the freedom fighter yourself... just the very fact that you live to tell their stories makes you a freedom fighter.”
— Reenita Hora [20:27]
On Dance and Identity:
“It's in the blood. My 90 year old grandma will get up and dance.”
— Rishi Jaiswal [11:17]
The conversation was heartfelt, candid, collaborative, and imbued with the mutual respect and excitement that comes from building stories together. Both Rishi and Reenita highlight the importance of vulnerability, community, and cultural specificity in their creative work, while addressing universal themes such as resistance, acceptance, and the unpredictability of the artistic journey.
“Your son cannot be going around this school telling people to call him a girl. … My daughter, actually.”
— [23:15–23:24]