This episode was sparked by several off-mic conversations between Hersh and Leo about creativity, consciousness, reinvention, and what it really means to build something meaningful in a world that feels increasingly artificial. The depth and energy of those exchanges made it clear this needed to be recorded.

Leo Marrs is a writer, creative strategist, and former nightlife entrepreneur turned consciousness explorer. Born in the Alaskan wild, his life has been shaped by extremes, from bear encounters and raw nature to founding America’s first breathwork studio. His work now bridges ancient wisdom and future tech, helping creators navigate modern chaos with clarity, resilience, and creative power.

Leo is currently writing The New Creator: Rise of the Mindful Artist in the New Meaning Economy, a book exploring how we reclaim purpose in a post-labor world where automation rises and meaning becomes the true currency.

In this conversation, Hersh and Leo dive into reinvention, the intersection of spirituality and technology, the emerging meaning economy, and how creators can stay grounded while everything accelerates.

As always on TRUTH TASTES FUNNY, the dialogue moves between sharp insight and real talk, because when truth leads, the funny follows.

Connect with Leo:

https://www.leomarrs.com

https://instagram.com/theleomarrs

Hersh's new book, SELLING THE TRUTH: A ‘Semoir’ with Insights for Life & Business is a semi memoir drawing on his adventures as an Authority Advisor and Standup Comedian. It is part business book, part happiness formula for life, and an amuseful read, whether you’re building a business or burnishing your self-image.

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Take the 60-second Get Off Your Assets Quiz, and find other resources here: https://www.hershrephun.com/selling-the-truth/