Ep 1039 | Phil Moves to Town & Just How Many Jase Namesakes Spawned from ‘Duck Dynasty’ Fans?

Summary

Podcast Summary: Ep 1039 | Phil Moves to Town & Just How Many Jase Namesakes Spawned from ‘Duck Dynasty’ Fans?

Unashamed with the Robertson Family
Host/Authors: Phil, Al, Jase, Zach Robertson
Special Guests: Various
Release Date: February 12, 2025
Location: West Monroe, Louisiana

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1. Episode Introduction

The Robertson family welcomes listeners back to another uplifting episode of Unashamed, now recorded in their newly named Studio. The conversation kicks off with playful banter about the studio's name, setting a lighthearted and familial tone for the episode.

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2. Event in Bowling Green, Kentucky

Jase Robertson shares his recent experience attending a significant event in Bowling Green, Kentucky. Initially mistaking Bowling Green for Nashville, Jase recounts how a promotional blurb he did for their podcast led to a swift sell-out of the event, highlighting the powerful influence of the Unashamed Nation community.

[01:10] Jase Robertson: "Two days ago, it was 80 degrees in Louisiana. And I flew to Nashville, and I thought I was doing an event in Nashville, but it was actually in Bowling Green, Kentucky."

Meet and Greet Highlights

Jase narrates heartwarming stories from the meet and greet, including his encounter with Mason, a 13-year-old boy battling a brain tumor. Mason's resilience and unwavering smile deeply moved the Robertsons, prompting Jase to involve him in the show by gifting him a signed duck call.

[05:01] Jase Robertson: "He's a warrior. He's going through all this struggle, and he's got a smile on his face."

Despite a hiccup during the introduction where Mason didn't follow instructions to blow the duck call at a specific time, the moment turned emotional as Phil and Jase prayed with Mason, underscoring the profound impact of their faith-based interactions.

[08:43] Phil Robertson: "He didn't want you to stop. That's... Exactly."

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3. Personal Updates and Family Matters

The episode delves into personal challenges, particularly concerning Phil Robertson's ongoing health issues. Jase discusses Phil’s multiple back procedures and the compounded physical and mental toll they are taking on him. The family emphasizes their reliance on prayer and community support during these trying times.

[37:30] Phil Robertson: "I don't know. Keep visiting us."

Additionally, Jase mentions the support from listeners, including a couple who brought supplies and their son, highlighting the Unashamed Nation’s far-reaching and supportive network.

[39:22] Jase Robertson: "We had quite a bit from the Unashamed Nation to help us."

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4. Cultural Observations: Super Bowl Reflections

The Robertsons engage in a lively discussion about the recent Super Bowl, particularly focusing on the commercials and halftime show. They express mixed feelings about the content, noting a shift away from traditional values.

[28:04] Phil Robertson: "Very good."

They critique the increasing cost and fleeting impact of Super Bowl advertisements while appreciating the heartfelt tributes, such as those supporting breast cancer awareness.

[30:14] Phil Robertson: "I thought, this is terrible. What are we doing? But then when it got to breast cancer... I thought, okay, I forgive you."

The conversation highlights a generational divide in media consumption and the Robertsons' efforts to find and emphasize positivity within changing cultural landscapes.

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5. Faith and Theological Insights

A significant portion of the episode is dedicated to deep theological discussions, particularly revolving around the Book of John and the Ministry of the Spirit. Jase shares profound insights on how human disciples reflect Jesus’s presence on Earth, mirroring divine omnipresence through community and technology.

[45:58] Jase Robertson: "It's like humans that have become Jesus on the earth... the ministry of the Spirit."

Phil adds to this with thoughts on God's plan for multiplication through believers, drawing parallels to their podcast's expanding reach and simultaneous local engagements.

[46:17] Phil Robertson: "It's a multiplication model idea... it's a brilliant plan."

Their discussion underscores the transformative power of faith and the role of believers in manifesting God's presence globally.

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6. Partnerships and Call to Action

Sponsorship: Pure Talk

Zach Dasher introduces their new partner, Pure Talk, America's wireless company committed to supporting veterans and providing affordable, reliable service. He shares personal satisfaction from switching to Pure Talk and encourages listeners to take advantage of a special discount.

[09:01] Zach Dasher: "Pure Talk is America's wireless company whose CEO is a veteran... save over $1,000 a year on their cell phone bill."

Support for Preborn Campaign

Phil and Jase highlight their partnership with Preborn, sharing impactful statistics on how their collaboration has saved thousands of babies and the ongoing need for support in offering life-affirming care.

[20:13] Phil Robertson: "Preborn's network of clinics shines a light into this darkness by offering free services to women considering the future of their baby."

Listeners are encouraged to donate and participate in the mission to protect life and support women in need.

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7. Personal Stories and Listener Impact

The Robertsons share anecdotes demonstrating the profound influence of their podcast, including stories of individuals seeking baptism and families connecting with Christ through their ministry. These narratives illustrate the podcast's role in fostering faith and community among listeners.

[40:26] Jase Robertson: "The kingdom is just amazing. When you see God's people come together."

Phil recounts meeting a young boy named Jace, named after their podcast, symbolizing the widespread and personal reach of their message.

[41:04] Phil Robertson: "He was literally named after you. And then the parents told me they love the show."

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8. Closing Thoughts and Final Reflections

As the episode wraps up, the Robertsons reflect on the importance of intentional conversations about faith. Jase emphasizes the power of identifying as a disciple of Jesus as a means to initiate meaningful discussions about their beliefs, aligning with biblical teachings.

[42:23] Jase Robertson: "I'm a disciple of Jesus, because it immediately then breaks the ice for what that means."

Phil adds a heartening note on seeing faith echoed in influential moments, such as during the Super Bowl interviews where coaches invoked God and Jesus, reinforcing the pervasive presence of faith in unexpected places.

[49:44] Phil Robertson: "Heavily mentioned... God and Jesus."

The episode concludes with a reaffirmation of their commitment to sharing the Gospel, encouraging listeners to continue their journey alongside the Robertson family.

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Notable Quotes with Timestamps

• [01:10] Jase Robertson: "Two days ago, it was 80 degrees in Louisiana... it was actually in Bowling Green, Kentucky."
• [05:01] Jase Robertson: "He's a warrior. He's going through all this struggle, and he's got a smile on his face."
• [08:43] Phil Robertson: "He didn't want you to stop. That's... Exactly."
• [20:13] Phil Robertson: "Preborn's network of clinics shines a light into this darkness by offering free services to women considering the future of their baby."
• [42:23] Jase Robertson: "I'm a disciple of Jesus, because it immediately then breaks the ice for what that means."
• [49:44] Phil Robertson: "Heavily mentioned... God and Jesus."

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Conclusion

Episode 1039 of Unashamed with the Robertson Family offers a blend of personal anecdotes, heartfelt faith discussions, cultural critiques, and community updates. Through stories of resilience, theological explorations, and engaging conversations, the Robertsons continue to inspire and uplift their listeners, reinforcing their mission to share the Gospel and foster a strong, faith-driven community.

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Transcript

[Jase Robertson]

I am unashamed. What about you?

[Phil Robertson]

So welcome back to Unashamed. I'm back here in the. What are we calling this? Is this the.

[Zach Dasher]

It's called the Studio.

[Phil Robertson]

The studio. We're in the new and improved Unashamed.

[Zach Dasher]

I guess we haven't named it yet.

[Phil Robertson]

Actually, so I know that's kind of like. Because we had the lair and that's. That's. That was unique to its spot. So we need to think about that.

[Zach Dasher]

Maybe let's call it the upgrade.

[Jase Robertson]

Just call it the Studio with no Name.

[Zach Dasher]

There you go.

[Phil Robertson]

Remember that?

[Zach Dasher]

I would call it that movie series.

[Phil Robertson]

The man with no Name.

[Jase Robertson]

That's where I was.

[Phil Robertson]

It was so good. It was.

[Zach Dasher]

I was thinking of the producer with no Name, the one that Phil would not.

[Phil Robertson]

Oh, yeah, that was. His name actually, was Connor, by the way. He's a good guy, But. So, Jason, I are here. Zach. We are. It's a good thing you're not living in Louisiana this week. It is a miserably. Miserably cold, wet, damp environment. And we're both sick, which is typical this time of year.

[Jase Robertson]

I mean, say I'm sick, Jace.

[Phil Robertson]

It sounds like you.

[Jase Robertson]

Well, here's what happened.

[Phil Robertson]

You're sick. Trust me.

[Jase Robertson]

What had happened was it was 80 degrees in Louisiana.

[Phil Robertson]

That's right. Two days ago.

[Jase Robertson]

And I flew to Nashville, and I thought I was doing an event in Nashville, but it was actually in Bowling Green, Kentucky.

[Phil Robertson]

Yep. Yeah, you told about that. The big men's thing, right?

[Jase Robertson]

Did I tell about that?

[Phil Robertson]

Yeah, you said you were going. You previewed it.

[Jase Robertson]

Oh, yeah. Because they hadn't sold out. So I did a little blurb and thank you, Unashamed Nation. Because they.

[Phil Robertson]

They sold it out.

[Jase Robertson]

Well, they sold out in a matter of minutes once the podcast see the.

[Phil Robertson]

Power of Unashamed Nation, which, what was.

[Jase Robertson]

Funny was then it attracts. When you do that, it attracts the real fans of Unashamed Nation.

[Phil Robertson]

Yeah.

[Jase Robertson]

Which makes for interesting stories when Jace gets to meet them, because we had a little meet and greet that they said was supposed to.

[Phil Robertson]

Because they forget nothing. That was.

[Zach Dasher]

So let me ask you, Jace, how many of the. How. What would you say the percentage of the audience listen to the podcast, if you had to guess?

[Jase Robertson]

Well, half the people were there because they listened to the podcast, so at least 50%. Zach, do the math.

[Zach Dasher]

All right?

[Jase Robertson]

I would say most people there listen to the podcast, but it was one of those events where it's a little awkward because they were doing a fundraiser for a guy who basically challenges men to be men of God. And so they had a dinner and it was swanky. I was the most underdressed person there.

[Phil Robertson]

Yep. I find myself that way at a live event.

[Jase Robertson]

I'm fine with it.

[Phil Robertson]

I am too.

[Jase Robertson]

I'm just kind of like, well, so however, I had. I had one of my honey hole shirts on during the plane ride because. And I told you, you know, in a weird way, I'm kind of a fashion model. So I like it. And the person I'm fashioning for literally used to be a 7 11. It's right down the street here. You know, so I had.

[Phil Robertson]

Because it had Jason's, the new model for 711 type fishing stores.

[Jase Robertson]

Yeah. So I like that because I think it's funny and I like their product. But I have to have the hoodie because my layover in between Atlanta. Once I got to Atlanta, it was a very short time, so I had to put the hoodie on. I didn't run, but I was walking fast, which did draw security. I noticed several security people following me because I had my hoodie on. There's nothing sticking out but the beard. So once again, a victim of facial profiling.

[Phil Robertson]

Because you kind of. It's easy for you to make that crossover with your attire, Jace, from Unity man to Unabomber. You know, it's just. That's the transition that happens when you put the hoodie on.

[Jase Robertson]

Well, and I had the shades on, so it's like this guy looks like he's trying to conceal his identity. And so when confronted with that by a security person, I said, well, I'm in a hurry. But they didn't get it because they didn't know who I was. I thought that was funny. So anyway, we get in this little whatever, whatever you call it, the meet and greet room. The first. Not the first, I'll tell you the story, but the first person there was a 13 year old kid that had a brain tumor. And they had reached out to us and so we reached out to the event and we were like, can we arrange a meeting? Because his story was he discovered us when he was 4 and he was in a hospital bed, which a lot of kids have this happen. And I mean, he has a brain tumor. He's going through one miserable procedure after another.

[Phil Robertson]

Yeah.

[Jase Robertson]

And so when you're a kid in that situation, you want to have a way to have a distraction, break the cycle.

[Phil Robertson]

Right.

[Jase Robertson]

So he started watching our little duck show and he was just real thankful because he. In his words, you know, that really helped him go through the process that so many times.

[Phil Robertson]

From people that have gone through something difficult that the show really helped.

[Jase Robertson]

Yeah. So here he is now, still has the brain tumor because they can't remove it because of where it's at.

[Phil Robertson]

Yep.

[Jase Robertson]

And, you know, it's touching because these guys, that. That little boy, he. He never. And I say little, he's 13 and he's bigger than you. I mean, just a huge mountain of a young man and kind of had a mullet and kind of his hairdo looked like mine, you know, so we were having a lot of fun. I was making him laugh about us. Like, man, I feel at home. I mean, because he's, you know, he had redneck tendencies and just a fabulous kid. Had a smile on his face the whole time. So I thought, you know what? I'm gonna make him a part of the show. And so I said, here's. I want to introduce you because you need people praying for you. And never underestimate the power of prayer. And of course, we gathered around him and said a prayer while we were back there. But so this is kind of where it went wrong. I had a great idea because I thought, man, let's give this guy some attention. I mean, he's a warrior. He's going through all this struggle, and he's got a smile on his face. So I said, look, I'm gonna introduce you when I first come out. And when I introduce you, I gave him one of my duck calls off my lanyard and signed it. And I told him to wash it first or whatever, but. And he was real excited getting the duck call. So I said, when I introduce you, I want you to blow the duck haul.

[Phil Robertson]

Yeah.

[Jase Robertson]

I was like, then I'll make some jokes about it. So he's like, okay. I was like. And then what we'll do at the end is like, I'll give you a job to do to be like my assistant. And so wait for further details on that as we go. So, I mean, I thought it was a great plan. Sounds great, right? I mean, we're drawing attention to this kid. What could go wrong? Well, I introduced him, I told his story, and he doesn't blow the duck off. He just kind of is looking with a grin on his face, and I'm like, blow the duck haul. I just, you know. And so then he blew it, which is. He was actually pretty good on a duck call. I said, now here's what you do. At the 35 minute mark from right now, blow it again. And so then I know his time is up, my time is up. So I thought, what could go wrong?

[Phil Robertson]

Oh, boy.

[Jase Robertson]

Well, I do the. I do the speech. And at some point I'm like, never believe it has to. This has to have gone over 35.

[Phil Robertson]

Because you've done this enough now where you kind of. Yeah, you're.

[Jase Robertson]

Has it not been 35 minutes? And he just kind of looked at me with a grin, but he still didn't blow the duck off. So I, I went ahead and quit, got off stage, and my assistant was like, you went 53 minutes. And I thought, well, maybe it was the 35, the 53. And she's like, why would you do that? So she was like chastising me. And I was like, he had one job. I thought he thought he would do it. So then I was like, well, I hope I didn't embarrass him. But then he came up after and I kind of had tears in his eyes and we hugged, you know, And I was like, it truly was, I think, a God orchestrated encounter.

[Phil Robertson]

He didn't want you to stop. That's. Well, that's why I can. Exactly. I know exactly what happened.

[Jase Robertson]

Well, you gave me no explanation. I was like, why didn't you blow the duck call? And he's like, I didn't know what time it was. It was. Well, I thought in our world, I figured everybody redneck.

[Phil Robertson]

He doesn't have a watch.

[Jase Robertson]

He didn't have a watch. So I was like, well, okay.

[Zach Dasher]

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[Jase Robertson]

The second guy I met in the little green room for the meet and greet, he had the shirt on from the honey hole that I had worn in the airport. He had. And look, this was a swanky thing. He had a suit coat, but he.

[Phil Robertson]

Had the shirt under it.

[Jase Robertson]

Under it, and it had the little tag. I was like, dude, this is weird. And he said, why? I was like, I just had that shirt on and I took it off. I put one on that had. Unashamed.

[Phil Robertson]

Yeah.

[Jase Robertson]

I was like, it's kind of weird you're wearing that shirt that I had on. I mean, that's weird. But he was just looking with a grant. And I was like, okay, he must be kind of a weird guy. Well, then the next couple that came, I was like, what are y'all doing here? And they said, we have no idea. We heard you say you were going to be here, and this is our date. And we drove an hour, which I thought was weird, don't you think?

[Phil Robertson]

Oh, it happens to me all the time.

[Zach Dasher]

I was like, well, I'd take chill if I was. If I listened to podcast or something, I'd go listen to somebody speak. Be a good little date night.

[Jase Robertson]

So, anyway, it was fun. I mean, we did the event and I had my son and his wife and three grandkids come.

[Phil Robertson]

Because you were close to Nashville.

[Jase Robertson]

Well, I was like an hour and a half.

[Phil Robertson]

Right.

[Jase Robertson]

I didn't even know they were coming.

[Phil Robertson]

Yeah.

[Jase Robertson]

Which turned into chaos. I mean, they. My grandkids are three and under three of them.

[Phil Robertson]

You have three under three yeah, yeah.

[Jase Robertson]

So, but overall it was the first event. So then that night my, after the event got a little scratchy. And then the next day I woke up and I had zero vocal ability.

[Phil Robertson]

So that's why you were saying you weren't really sick, but you've.

[Jase Robertson]

Well, I felt fine.

[Phil Robertson]

Yeah.

[Jase Robertson]

But now since then I'm like, well, maybe I got some kind of virus, you know, I mean, but it was weird because I literally couldn't make a sound. So then it got weird on the way back because all I could do was basically grunt. I was like, what is that? There's some star in Hollywood that all he does is grunt. He makes millions of dollars. But I don't know who that is. I just heard somebody say that, I don't know. But I could not make an audible sound for 24 hours.

[Phil Robertson]

The old football player, Marshawn Lynch. That's what him. He wouldn't speak, he just grunte. Yeah. Then he wind up doing a bunch of ads because he talked and made millions of dollars, which is really smart.

[Jase Robertson]

There you go. So I did do some of our kind of new stuff in my speech, which just kind of came out about the kingdom. And on I did a thing about conversations, which goes in with the book of John, because I had an interesting conversation on the way there. So a guy is sitting next to me and it's 7:30 in the morning. And when I passed him, because I was sitting by the window, I was like, boy, you got quite the bar going here. Because he had a, I thought was orange juice. And he had a cup of coffee and he had a bottle of water and I was trying not to knock any of it over with my bag. And he said, oh yeah, I got the Holy Trinity. And I thought, what does that mean? And he said, yeah, I got the Holy Trinity. I got some caffeine, I got the alcohol with the screwdriver and I have some water to wash it all down. I thought that's an odd way of using the Holy Trinity.

[Phil Robertson]

That might be Bizarro Trinity. Yeah.

[Jase Robertson]

So I said, well, what do you do? And he said, well, I'm a sports agen agent for the nil, you know, in the college world. Because that's all just exploded.

[Phil Robertson]

Oh yeah, it's big money there.

[Jase Robertson]

But like, while he's telling me what he he's doing, he's getting him another screwdriver. I mean, he put that thing down. I thought that's kind of early to be knocking back whatever.

[Phil Robertson]

Well, that's why he needed the other 2/3 of his equation.

[Jase Robertson]

So then the more he talked and he was, you know, using some, some four letter words in the descriptions of. And I thought I need to have a conversation. And so it's like. But time was racing because he was a talker because that's what he is. He's an agent, he's making the sale. So then when he just asked me, he said, well, what do you do? And I just thought I'm cutting to the chase right here. I said, I'm a disciple of Jesus.

[Phil Robertson]

You know, so they call you. Cut to the chase, Jace.

[Jase Robertson]

It was like sound effect head because he said, what do you do? And it was like when I said a disciple of Jesus, I said, now, you know, to make money, I've, you know, build duck calls. I'm an entertainer. And I brought up our little duck show and he's like, you're one of those people. And I was like, yeah. Who would look like this without some reason? And so I, you know, I started talking about Jesus because I said, what do you do? And I'm saying, I got that from Jesus. I just thought this, what if this is a God architected encounter?

[Phil Robertson]

Yeah.

[Jase Robertson]

And what's so weird is, is that after I got through with my speech the never heard another four letter word. And at the end it was so funny when he got up because it was only a 37 minute flight. He's like, and, and God bless you and all that that y'all do in that. God bless him. It was kind of a weird and I don't know, it may have been because he had done had about four screwdrivers, but I thought, you know, it changed the whole conversation and narrative and I thought you never know, just that one encounter where that will go.

[Phil Robertson]

Yeah. Because it may, it's, it's a little uncomfortable for them to continue down a trail when you kind of introduce that.

[Jase Robertson]

So I made a point though. When I got to the Book of John, I said every, I said most encounters with Jesus starts with a conversation. And you really see that in the Book of John you have these portraits once we leave chapter one of these just everyday conversations that came up.

[Phil Robertson]

Yeah, they make the impact. Jason, you were doing bowling Green. So I was on my way home from the southern layer to come home to preach this weekend. And so we stopped and did a little marriage event. It was just kind of impromptu. A guy I met pastor there at Bethel Baptist in the metropolis of Citronelle, Alabama, which is just north of Mobile. I mean our kind of folks, you know, and so they Had a little marriage event. And there are probably, I don't know, 50 or so couples at this event. Lisa and I shared a little bit about what God's doing through us and our ministry. But that little cool thing they were doing because it was their marriage enrichment event. So they put these little verses on every table. And so you had about six or eight couples around every table. So we were at ours. And they'd put a verse from Song of Solomon. Now I just gotta tell you, if you ever go and read Song of Solomon, it's quite the book to read.

[Jase Robertson]

Because Solomon at least PG 13.

[Phil Robertson]

At least. And so they had all these verses from Song of Solomon. And you were supposed to. Your table was supposed to read the verse and then come up with a pickup line for. From the verse, if you want to your spouse, if you were going to say, hey, let's, you know, here's a pickup line from Song of Song.

[Jase Robertson]

Sounds dangerous.

[Phil Robertson]

It was. And it was very funny because all throughout the night, at different points, they would have someone from the table come up on the mic and tell what their pickup line was from the verse. They'd read the verse, then tell the pickup line. So our guy at our table got a pretty funny one. I can't remember what it his was, but the one I remembered, I wanted to tell you because it was so funny, I laughed so hard. So here's the verse. It's the song of song 17. And this is in the Bible, by the way. So some of you out there say this in the Bible. Yeah. Your navel is a rounded goblet that never lacks blended wine. Your waist is a mound of wheat encircled by lies. That was the verse which is, you know, and so Solomon's describing his, you know, the love of his life in this song of songs. So you had to come up with a pickup line. So these are Alabama, you know, these are our kind of people. And the guy's pickup line was, let's grab some cheap wine and make some biscuits. I laughed so hard because the wheat, you know, it just, it was just funny. It was just. It captured the moment just right. But it was. So they had several of those. It was fun. And yet we got up and shared some of what God does in marriage. And then I had some couples afterwards that really shared some life changing stuff. So it was really good. Zach, we got some really good news from our good friends at Preborn. You know, they've been doing a campaign with us all last year and Unashamed Nation helped save how many babies do you remember what they told us?

[Zach Dasher]

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[Phil Robertson]

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[Zach Dasher]

When y'all were complaining about the weather, I just, I was in Portland, Oregon, and so it was. Yeah, it's like a. It's like a mistake all the time. Just, it's like a. Like someone's got A spray bottle, and they're just spraying you the whole time. So, yeah, we went up there and it was good. We got to go to the Bible project and see what they were doing. I love that ministry. I did tell them about Phil not knowing who Tim Mackey was and who is the whole. Who is Mackie?

[Phil Robertson]

Still. Still one of my favorite gold opens of all time. Who's Mackie?

[Jase Robertson]

Remember, Jason, I think you had put it on some notes that we were going to talk about.

[Phil Robertson]

Yeah, it was in my notes. I was like, jace is going to mention Mackie's outline. We were studying Ephesians, and Mackie's outline was what we were using. And dad, dad, he said, al says here, you know, as he's reading our internal notes, you know.

[Jase Robertson]

But it comes from something that I've heard Phil do a bit on. And I've said the same bit because it always fascinates me, like when preachers get up to preach. Now, I realize you're a preacher, so don't get offended. But here's what I don't understand.

[Phil Robertson]

I'm not easily offended.

[Jase Robertson]

Most preachers that I hear, they get up and they'll have a text and they'll start, but then they'll preach a sermon and they have like 30 quotes from people who wrote books. And I, you know, and that's where Phil gets that. He's like, who. Who is that? Because you feel like, yeah, is this book not big enough for you? Are there not enough references in the Bible to quote? And always. I do. I do think that when someone continues to quote other people's books in sermons, and most of the preachers that do that, they do it on a consistent basis.

[Phil Robertson]

But I'll tell you why they do it. It's. And Zach can back me up on this. It's the same thing you learned in. In college that you're supposed to quote sources. And so it's. So it's so ingrained in you, you could just tell a story and it would be just as effective, but it's structured into your education that you got a quote where you heard this, or you're stealing the idea.

[Zach Dasher]

It's like plagiarism. Well, because think about. You read someone's material and if you learn anything from it.

[Phil Robertson]

But to Jason, the Holy Spirit does it. I mean, we really shouldn't have to. I do it, too.

[Jase Robertson]

My point is, do you not have enough material?

[Phil Robertson]

You do.

[Jase Robertson]

Called the Bible.

[Phil Robertson]

You do.

[Jase Robertson]

I mean, I'm. I'm. I'm saying, okay, it's. It's okay to quote somebody every once in a while, but if he doesn't write a book in the Bible, I got him way further down the list.

[Phil Robertson]

But it doesn't mean his story is irrelevant. It's just like Sunday in my sermon, I quoted NT Wright. He's speaking of Mackie. There's another one of our guys. What you got to me does that. Did you meet NT Right?

[Zach Dasher]

Yeah, I didn't get to meet him, but he was. You heard him, he spoke and he. And he was great.

[Phil Robertson]

So I quoted him, but I didn't quote. I quoted a book because he told a fantastic story that illustrated the point I was trying to make days in my sermon. So that's why I did it. But the Bible certainly is big enough to your point.

[Zach Dasher]

Yeah, I think it's kind of an honor thing, and you don't want to steal someone else's material like it's your own. But I will say that if you think about. Truthfully, I think that's kind of funny that I'm saying this. C.S. lewis said. C.S.

[Jase Robertson]

Lewis said, thank you, Zach, for illustrating. To have an Invitation song right now, literally in. I was gonna use some, but Zach's like, we shouldn't steal people's material. I'm like, this is the material.

[Zach Dasher]

And in our quest to be original, basically, like when you quit trying to be original and, like, you actually become original. But I saw. But it's really all gods in the end. I mean, you think about. It's all. We're all borrowing from his revelation. So, I mean, I do think there is some truth to that. And people get really obsessed with wanting to get credit for their work. But I think there is something to be said for. It's all his material in the end. And what we're doing is just taking what he's revealed, trying to explain it the best we know how. You know, as broken as that may be, and if. If someone can take that and expand upon it, great. Yeah, that's. We're all kind of working off someone else's material anyways. All back to who.

[Phil Robertson]

Well, and plus, how do we know that our original thought was not somebody else's original thought somewhere else? And who.

[Jase Robertson]

Who.

[Phil Robertson]

I don't feel it first.

[Jase Robertson]

I don't feel like you necessarily have to do.

[Phil Robertson]

If I hear somebody say something that I say a lot, one is, I'm flattered that they're saying it where they said. And I'm thinking, well, maybe they just thought that up just like I did.

[Jase Robertson]

You know, do you ever do you ever Google something you think you come up that's original?

[Phil Robertson]

Oh, yeah.

[Jase Robertson]

You look at it and say, oh, yeah, somebody's already a thing.

[Phil Robertson]

There are very few truly original ideas. That is true, Jason.

[Jase Robertson]

Exactly. Every once in a while, I'll come up with one, and I'll. Missy, just come up with something no one's ever thought of before. She's like, well, how do you know? I was like, because I looked it up. I didn't. She's like, I'm sure somebody said that somewhere. You just don't realize, probably. But what I thought was, I don't know if you all watched the super bowl, but the commercials seem to have a different vibe to them.

[Phil Robertson]

Yeah. Nice. The whole thing, really.

[Jase Robertson]

Yeah. And I thought it was more positive.

[Phil Robertson]

Yeah.

[Jase Robertson]

Overall. But one of them that caught me was there was a. I think it was a Jeep commercial that they had Harrison Ford.

[Phil Robertson]

Oh, yeah.

[Jase Robertson]

I thought it was a good commercial.

[Phil Robertson]

Very good.

[Jase Robertson]

But he said something in there that got my attention because he was talking about humans, and he's like, there's no owner's manual for humans. And I thought, objection. She was like, I want to hear the commercial. Because she.

[Phil Robertson]

You were objecting during the commercial.

[Jase Robertson]

I said, no, no. I was like, what is the Bible? And of course, she had a really good point. She's like, well, I think the same thing when people say, there's no owner manual for parenting.

[Phil Robertson]

Yeah.

[Jase Robertson]

She's like, objection. Which is the same book that I had, you know, which I do think it is an owner's man for humans.

[Phil Robertson]

It is.

[Jase Robertson]

So even though I thought the commercial was pretty good.

[Zach Dasher]

Yeah.

[Jase Robertson]

Well, I liked them overall. I mean, what's the best commercial? Was obviously. Did y'all watch the show?

[Phil Robertson]

Yep. Yeah.

[Jase Robertson]

What was the best commercial?

[Phil Robertson]

My. Well, my favorite was the WeatherTech commercial because it was hilarious. The ones I always laugh at are the ones of some little business that you've never heard of before. And, you know, they just roll the dice. Like, they. You'll be. It's usually in the second half, which rates are probably cheaper. And it's just some company that's just some random business thing. You're like, what. What was that? That was somebody taking everything they had and. And putting it all out on the table and saying, I'm hoping this will get us some more business.

[Jase Robertson]

I mean, well, 30 seconds cost $8 million.

[Phil Robertson]

I kept looking for the unashamed ad.

[Jase Robertson]

What was crazy was all of a sudden, it was just kind of to go in with your Song of Solomon theme. It was just A brass commercial. Every conceivable.

[Phil Robertson]

Hate to say this, but I didn't miss that one.

[Jase Robertson]

And I thought, this is terrible. What are we doing? But then when it got to.

[Phil Robertson]

It was breast cancer. Yeah.

[Jase Robertson]

Yeah. I thought, okay, I forgive you. Because, you know, their point was. Was a pretty good one, which actually, you're right.

[Phil Robertson]

When we were all watching that in real time, because all my grandkids are there. We went from, like, complaining and where's the remote? To then cheering by the end because it's like, oh, you know, ma'am's got breast cancer. You know, so it was like.

[Jase Robertson]

Well, that's what I thought. I thought, if you want to just really draw people's attention to something, I'll offer you forgiveness on that.

[Phil Robertson]

Yeah.

[Jase Robertson]

So.

[Zach Dasher]

And I saw someone. That someone posted on Instagram. It was a picture of a. Of the halftime show, and I'm Generation X, and it said Gen X. What did it say? Something about how that has never been more confused in their life. I. I, Like, I didn't. I didn't quite get the whole. I feel like the pop culture is, like, leaving me behind. I could.

[Phil Robertson]

Well, my take on it was. It. I didn't understand it at all because it's obviously not my genre of music or whatever, because I. I just couldn't understand it. Like, I couldn't hear the words or get them. But I thought, well, they're not show exposing body part. Some of the halftime shows in the last 10 years have been just lewd. And it wasn't that. So I thought, well, that's good. And, you know, they had the red, white and blue light dancers. And I thought, well, there's a little bit of patriotism. So I took the positives out of it. But I have to admit, I don't get it. It's not my. It obviously wasn't made for me.

[Jase Robertson]

Y'all should follow my lead. I mean, once they went in a different direction for halftime shows, which Missy and I was trying to figure out when that was, but it's been at least a decade.

[Phil Robertson]

About a decade.

[Jase Robertson]

We don't even. We don't even watch it.

[Phil Robertson]

Yes. I mean, when it's time to go.

[Zach Dasher]

I feel like it was muted. The. The Justin Timberlake, Janet Jackson, when he.

[Phil Robertson]

Yeah, that kind of started it.

[Jase Robertson]

Maybe that's when I left the building. But then we muted it, and actually we call one of our kids. I think we just talked the whole time.

[Zach Dasher]

But, I mean, I had a hard time watching the game.

[Phil Robertson]

It was.

[Zach Dasher]

I mean, it was just a strapping I mean, it was.

[Jase Robertson]

Well, we watched it because we. We were kind of rooting for the Eagles, and I really don't know why.

[Phil Robertson]

Well, it's funny because I didn't have a dog in the hunt. But then Lisa and I are going to Kansas City later this week because we're doing an event this weekend near there. And so I found myself pulling for the Eagles because I thought, oh, man, I don't want to have a parade in town while we're there and trying to get around and get to my event.

[Jase Robertson]

Well, that reminded me why I was rooting for the Eagles. Duh. I have an event in Philadelphia this year. And I was like, now you got.

[Phil Robertson]

You got a lead.

[Jase Robertson]

I said, babe, if Philadelphia doesn't win, this, my opening line is going to be, are y'all over it yet? I was like, so I think I'd rather them win. And I. And I told her. I said, I really, Because I'm. I watch football, and I. With. Without commercials and without the halftime show. You know, I watched the Red Zone. I don't like commercials or any kind of outside influence. And. And I met Scott Hanson at the Tebow event, who does the NFL Red Zone. And I love this guy. He's awesome. He loves the Lord. He's a good guy. And so I just told her. I was like, I think Philadelphia. Before the game started, I said, I think Philadelphia is the better team.

[Phil Robertson]

I picked them by 10.

[Jase Robertson]

I think they're going to win.

[Phil Robertson]

I picked them by 10.

[Jase Robertson]

So then we were kind of. We were rooting for them. And. And so now I can't wait to be in Philadelphia. Of course, I saw their. The way they celebrated the win, and I thought, oh, they burned now. Now I realize why I'm called to Philadelphia. Yeah, I need.

[Zach Dasher]

It's a mission field.

[Jase Robertson]

Yeah. Well, I just need to teach them the proper way.

[Phil Robertson]

But when did that. When did. How many years have been since that caught on? Like, okay, we won. We're happy, so let's destroy things.

[Jase Robertson]

I think it has to do with the amount of alcohol that. We're back to the screwdrivers.

[Zach Dasher]

Do you think they were drinking there, Jase?

[Jase Robertson]

Do I think they were drinking there? What gave it away?

[Phil Robertson]

Tearing down stop signs and traffic lights.

[Jase Robertson]

If you look in the backdrop, Zach, there's people falling down without people pushing them. They're just. They're staggering. Falling down.

[Phil Robertson]

It looked like a big wind was.

[Zach Dasher]

Blowing cocktails at the actual Super Bowl. I didn't do the research on. I just read the headline. It said $60 for a cocktail. So you gonna pay for it if you want to get, you know, drunk.

[Jase Robertson]

Well, the super bowl was at New Orleans. All the Philadelphia. I think they were just getting hammered watching it. And then they went to the street.

[Phil Robertson]

Did you notice? I think it was in the pregame. They showed the comparison. So the very first super bowl, the average ticket cost was $12. And this year was $5,850. The average ticket.

[Jase Robertson]

Well, I saw somewhere that in the late 60s, a super ad cost $37,000, which is a lot.

[Phil Robertson]

Yeah.

[Jase Robertson]

And now it's 8 million.

[Phil Robertson]

Yeah, exactly.

[Jase Robertson]

So. And that arrow, they had a chart and that thing has gone straight up.

[Phil Robertson]

Were y'all as shocked as me that no sitting US President had ever been to an actual Super Bowl?

[Jase Robertson]

Surprise.

[Phil Robertson]

I was shocked because I think that's low hanging fruit, like if you're the president.

[Jase Robertson]

And I was really surprised that he got cheered and Taylor Swift got booed.

[Phil Robertson]

I know, it was crazy. It was bizarre.

[Jase Robertson]

Well, what's happening?

[Phil Robertson]

Which kind of talks about that different mood change you were talking about, just kind of general.

[Jase Robertson]

Well, I actually brought up Lauren Daigle.

[Phil Robertson]

Knocked it out of the park. Yeah.

[Zach Dasher]

Had our own Lauren Daigle represent a girl.

[Phil Robertson]

She was awesome.

[Zach Dasher]

Yeah.

[Jase Robertson]

Yeah. And she sings about Jesus.

[Zach Dasher]

Yeah, she's the real deal. I went to an event at Angola Prison and she was there with us. And there was about 15 of us that went back into the death row area and. And just kind of met with some of the inmates, prayed with them, really just bring hope, hope behind bars. You know, you think about. I mean, Phil spoke there before. Have one of the greatest lines ever. You can. You can be under lock and key and still be free.

[Phil Robertson]

And yeah, I was.

[Zach Dasher]

Me and Jill had commented, just watching her interact with people, she's such a. A sweet person. Amazing, genuine, loving person. That was pretty. But she did great. I thought she's represented Louisiana very well.

[Jase Robertson]

I agree.

[Zach Dasher]

Harry Connett Jr. Yeah.

[Phil Robertson]

Was he on there? Yeah, I missed.

[Zach Dasher]

Yeah, he did at the end in the pregame show.

[Phil Robertson]

I didn't see all the pregame stuff. I love the tribute stuff they did, like to what had happened in New Orleans. And I just thought that was really well done. Yeah. And it's not, you know, like you think about even in five years, just the idea that we're like saying, man, yay to law enforcement. The first event was just, I thought was very, very popular. I thought the NFL did a nice job with that, you know, because some of the stuff they've done in the past, I'm like, yeah, I thought that was a lot better.

[Zach Dasher]

How is Phil?

[Jase Robertson]

Well, it comes and goes and goes. I mean, I think he had a pretty rough week with. He had another back procedure, which I think this is number six or seven, and seems to get a little harder.

[Phil Robertson]

To come out from under the anesthesia.

[Jase Robertson]

Every time he did. He was. Seem. Seem in a fog for a few days and kind of, you know, doing a little bit bizarre things. But a week later, I mean, yesterday seemed to be doing a little better, but it's like we're losing each time. It's like it's that much harder to come back mentally. I mean, he's kind of got two things working against him physically and then mentally.

[Phil Robertson]

Yep.

[Jase Robertson]

And so they're compounding each other. So we're doing our best to make them comfortable. Yeah, we've gotten. We've gotten them closer to town, you.

[Phil Robertson]

Know, which has been much more helpful for us to take care of them properly.

[Jase Robertson]

Yeah.

[Phil Robertson]

And cook for them and everything.

[Zach Dasher]

That's a big deal.

[Phil Robertson]

Yeah.

[Jase Robertson]

But they seem excited about it. And for the most part, last thing.

[Phil Robertson]

Dad said to me yesterday, Jason, I was leaving and telling him by. He said, well, I don't know. Keep visiting us.

[Jase Robertson]

Yeah.

[Phil Robertson]

And I said, okay, Dad, I will. I promise. When I'm in town, I'll be here every day.

[Jase Robertson]

Yeah. We appreciate your prayers, but that's the goal. Now, I think they both realize that, you know, we're in the passing, the legacy downstage, because there's really no cure for my dad's condition. And we're not underestimating the power of God. He can do anything he wants at any time. Which to go back to that boy I met, and his name is Mason. So for you prayer warriors, if you want to put Mason on your prayer list, I mean, the boy has a brain tumor, and they can't do anything about it. And despite this kid's attitude being great, I mean, I know that's got to be difficult. And so, you know, we don't underestimate the power of God. But where things are now with my dad, I mean, there just seems to be no way to reverse what's going on, so.

[Phil Robertson]

Yeah, and so we appreciate the support because now it's more just us making sure that they're comfortable and taking care of them, too. Zach. I did. I forgot to tell you. I met a couple in. When I was in Citronelle, Alabama, that has met you in jail. They actually brought supplies up to you guys, and they have a. They have a son named Slade who met Bear at camp here at Camp Chioka. And he's coming back this summer. Do you remember them?

[Zach Dasher]

I do.

[Phil Robertson]

They were at this little church I was at way up there in central Alabama. And they said, tell you hello. But I just thought, man, what a small world that I run across this couple who had actually physically come and supported the hurricane relief work in your area.

[Zach Dasher]

Oh, yeah, it was. It was wild how many people we had come up from the. From the Unashamed Nation to help us. I mean, it was a lot. I mean, quite a bit. And one of my favorite stories was a lady who had listened to the podcast wanted to be baptized. I think I've told this story before. I think it's cool, though. She wanted to get baptized. I connected her with a local church and another part of North Carolina. She gets baptized in that church, becomes part of that church. Her and her whole family, they all get. They all come to know Jesus. And. And then they brought an entire group from that church to come serve here for about four days. And I thought, man, the kingdom is just amazing. When you see God's people come together. And one thing happens today that has repercussions, you know, three years later that you never. You never see coming.

[Phil Robertson]

Well, there was a couple there, Jace, that had two. There were two boys there, and I guess there were two different families. They were about 11 and 12. And so the boys were there at the beginning, and then they left, of course, when the marriage event started. But one of them's name was Jace. And he said, this is Jace. I said, hey, Jason. I said, how old are you? And he said, I think he said he was 11. I said, were you named after, like, our Jason? He looked at me, he said, yes, sir. And I said, I'm so sorry. And everybody started laughing, you know, but I mean, he was. He was literally named after you. And then the parents told me they want. Love the show. And so. But I just wonder how many young Jaces are out there running around America.

[Jase Robertson]

I don't know. It's a big responsibility.

[Phil Robertson]

I know. I just hope they turn out well.

[Jase Robertson]

Yeah, me too. Well, that's why I'm talking about Jesus so much. Which in our. Our prep for where we are in John 1, you know, when we left off where it says the next day, John was there again with two of his disciples. That's in verse 35. So when he. He said, you know, he saw Jesus passing by and said, look, the Lamb of God, which we had discussed earlier what that meant. But then these two disciples come up There. And he's like, well, what do you want? But I've been thinking about that a lot, because here we are. You know, when I was in that airplane seat talking to the agent, I basically made that same claim. I was like. He's like, what do you do? Which most in our culture, we always say, what do we do for money? But I've tried to change that. So when people ask me, what do you do? That's my answer. I'm like, I follow Jesus, or I'm a disciple of Jesus, because it immediately then breaks the ice for what that means. Then usually when they hear what they wanted to have answered, which is, what do you do for a living? Which they think is interesting.

[Phil Robertson]

Yeah.

[Jase Robertson]

Oh, you're on tv. Make duck call. These are interesting things, because if you.

[Phil Robertson]

Just say, you know, I'm a. An attorney, accountant, I mean, like, it's not that those aren't important. We love it. But at the same time, it's like, would you say. I mean, that's a lot of people doing that. But when you say, you know, I made duck cousin. I'm on tv.

[Jase Robertson]

Yeah. I'm an entertainer, people like, oh, well, that's. That's interesting. But I like the fact that they think it's more interesting that I didn't lead with that.

[Phil Robertson]

Yeah.

[Jase Robertson]

I mean, I just was laying down who I am here, and now we can talk about this other stuff, which. What I'm. My point was, when the conversation ended, he didn't end on duck calls or TV or agent. He was like. He was trying to then assert his religious background, which was, may the Lord bless everything.

[Phil Robertson]

I remember something I heard in a, you know, class somewhere, but I was.

[Jase Robertson]

Bringing that up because, you know, I had all these notes on what I was going to do for my speech, which none of that worked. When you get up, it just, like, you tend to go to default setting. And so I never looked at them. But what I wanted to bring up with y'all, what I found interesting is in this little interaction of making the disciples. And I might have read this somewhere, but when you think about why God chose this plan and why John goes through and writes the way he did, because this first chapter is like. It's kind of an overview of the big picture on the plan of God.

[Phil Robertson]

Yeah. It's more than an overview to a letter. It's an overview to everything.

[Jase Robertson]

Yeah. So then, like, as you read this, you're constantly going back to what he introduced. So I've really been looking at it through those glasses. I Guess. And it. And it. You know, what. What really kind of just hit me between the eyes, which I guess I knew this. I'd never thought about it. But think about what Jesus did and why he had to go to the right hand. Now, one, we make the point accurately from Hebrews that he's there on our behalf in God's presence because he's made atonement for our sins. You know, think about Hebrews 1, where it says, after he provided purification for sins, this is 1, 2, 3, he sat down at the right hand of the majesty of heaven. And so I get. That's a part of it. But when you. When you read chapter six, chapter seven, chapter eight of Hebrews, he's. It's kind of deeper there. It's like he's our sacrifice that's living forever. But also another thing is by him doing that and remaining a man, he's bound to one location. So if he then could pour out his spirit and thank Galatians 4, 1 6, where it says, he's given us the spirit of His Son, well, he now could be in multiple places at one time, which would become a ministry of showing humanity heaven and God on the earth.

[Phil Robertson]

Yes.

[Jase Robertson]

So what hit me in that was, you remember in. In second Corinthians, I didn't notice because it made me go back and read 2 Corinthians, chapter 2, all the way through the first part of chapter 6 on how many times he's talking about this ministry. This ministry, this ministry. And it's the. He calls it the ministry of the Spirit.

[Phil Robertson]

Yeah.

[Jase Robertson]

And it's like humans that have become Jesus on the earth. And I thought, what a plan. This is from God's perspective.

[Phil Robertson]

Yeah.

[Jase Robertson]

Have you ever thought about that?

[Phil Robertson]

Yeah. And I love it that you're bringing. It's a multiplication model idea. Because I always say Jesus could have stayed on earth and then beamed himself around the planet to do whatever he wanted to, but in his infinite wisdom, he understood it was better to have us do that. It was like we were just describing on this podcast. I mean, this past weekend, you were in Bowling Green, Kentucky. I'm in Citronelle, Alabama, and Zach is in Portland, Oregon. The three of us do this podcast and we share our Bible study together, and it beams out to a lot of people. But then sometimes we go out and we were in three individual places the same weekend, sharing the same message face to face to people. That's exactly what Christ did through the Holy Spirit. You've got the central message of who God is. But then by giving us the Spirit, now we're able to be literally around the world at the same time. I mean, it was a brilliant plan.

[Jase Robertson]

So. So 2nd Corinthians 3:7 actually uses that phrase. It says if the ministry that brought death, which was engraved in letters on stone because he's talking about Moses and the ten Commandments, it says, came with glory so that the Israelites could not look steadily at the face of Moses because of its glory fading through it, fading though it was. Will not the ministry of the Spirit be ever more glorious? I like that little phrase, the ministry of the Spirit, which then he leads to something that we've read many times where it says, in verse 17 of chapter three, now, the Lord is the Spirit, and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there's freedom. And we who with unveiled faces all reflect the Lord's glory, are being transformed into his likeness with ever increasing glory, which comes from the Lord, who is the Spirit. But it made me think of the big picture of John when he said, in the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God, and then the Word became flesh. Verse 14. But when you go back to creation and you have God and the Holy Spirit hovering over the waters, and then God said, let there be light. See? Oh, then creation is born, and they go through it all, and it's all good. It's all good. It's all good. And then it gets to 26, and it's like, and let us make man in our image. When I started thinking about this, here's Jesus becoming a human as the image of God. Then here's us becoming a new creation who were originally made in the image of God. And what is the image supposed to represent? It's reflecting people who come to you back to the original creator, right? Which I thought, man, this thing is going full circle here. That's what the intent of humans, that was the intent of having humans, is that we then could be used by God to show who he is on the earth to other humans who haven't figured it out yet.

[Phil Robertson]

I love it. And in fact, one last thing before we wrap, because since we've been talking about the super bowl by waiting to the end of the game, which was obviously over, but we just kept watching it because we were just watching the commercials and talking. And I'm so glad I waited to the end, because when it ended and then they were doing the interview with the coach and Jalen Hurts and the winners, obviously God and Jesus were mentioned so many times, like the coach. The coach mentioned him four or five times and even made sure and said the name Jesus with God. It wasn't just, you know, all glory to God, which, which I don't take anything lightly, especially when you've got 120 million people watching. I mean, I'm praising God, their mission, but it was more they felt more emboldened to invoke the name of God and Jesus in those moments. And it kind of jace we talked about earlier about me being a Dodger fan. It kind of expanded my idea. It's really more about teams and who wins to really who's out there fighting the big battle, which is the most important. So I had so much respect for those guys for doing that, and I was super encouraged by that thing, which was good. All right, well, we're out of time. We'll we'll get back to John next time on thanks for listening to the Unashamed podcast. Help us out by leaving a rating and review on Apple Podcast. And don't miss an episode by subscribing on YouTube. And be sure to click the little bell and choose all notifications to watch every episode.