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Unashamed with the Robertson Family
Ep 1058 | Mia Ditches Spring Break to Hang with Dad, Lands a Great Job & Teaches Jase a New Sport
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Phil Robertson
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Phil Robertson
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Jase Robertson
Welcome back to Unashamed. You know, Zach, recently, Jay, Zach, we told him we needed some high profile guests and some big names on the podcast, and he's been doing a good job. He's been finding some amazing people for us to have conversations with. But he has outdone himself today. He has reached deep into the archives to bring out what I consider to be one of our favorite and best guests. And that would be Mia Robertson, your daughter, Jay. So, Mia, welcome to Unashamed. So, me, if I'm not mistaken, you've been on the show once before, is that right?
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Mia Robertson
Because, yeah, I think I've only been on it once.
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Jase Robertson
Yeah. So I remember the way that got set up or you. Your last appearance on Unashamed, I was down at my mailbox and you and your mom were driving by and you just had like a major surgery and we've been praying for you and we've been talking about you a lot. On Unashamed, it was like maybe a couple of weeks after. And so you're in the car and I come over to ask how you're doing and you're there. And so somehow it came up about you being on the podcast at some point to tell us about your experiences. And so I was like, would you like to be on the podcast? And you said, like, uh, yeah, I. I'd like to do that. Well, what about tomorrow? And. And I was like, tomorrow? Okay, yeah, sure. You're always welcome. And so you, you came on and you were still like, you know, had stuff in your mouth. They were struggling, you know, with all of that. And yet you were precious and amazing and Unashamed Nation loves you. So welcome back for the second time.
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Mia Robertson
Yeah, I was ready to get out of the house. I think you get kind of cooped up in there.
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Phil Robertson
Yeah, my bad. Spend a lot of time during those rec. Recoveries.
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Mia Robertson
Yes.
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Phil Robertson
Needing something to do.
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Mia Robertson
Yeah. Not like I don't love spending extra time with you and mom, but I think I needed a change of scenery.
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Phil Robertson
Come on. Hey, fast forward. How many years ago was that when you were on? Was that last year?
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Jase Robertson
Yeah, that was about a year.
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Mia Robertson
Yeah, a year and a half.
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Phil Robertson
Fast forward. And now you're you. You're spending your spring break hanging out with dad?
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Mia Robertson
Oh, yeah.
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Phil Robertson
Because mom left.
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Mia Robertson
Yeah, she left after, like, three days home with us. Yeah, she went to the other kids, but we had fun. We watched LSU baseball and ate some crawfish.
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Phil Robertson
Oh, we did. So, yeah, let's just back up and tell that story. So last night, Mia said, oh, I'm going to be on your podcast tomorrow. Oh, really? And she's like, what are we going to talk about? And then you told me two stories back to back, which I know you didn't think that it related to what we're talking about, but after I gave you a little heads up, you said, oh, wow.
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Mia Robertson
Yeah. And I didn't know how they were going to relate yet, because I told the stories, and he was like, those are so funny. I was like, that's not really funny.
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Phil Robertson
I thought they were funny. Okay, the first one. So she's had an awakening, and I don't want to have my view on this. Cause, like, your first. So what are you, 22 now?
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Mia Robertson
21.
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Phil Robertson
21. But you're fixing to be 22.
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Mia Robertson
I got, like, six more months till I'm 22.
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Phil Robertson
Yeah, but once you get that close, you are 22.
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Mia Robertson
Okay.
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Phil Robertson
Y'all think that I'm forgetting, but when you factor in the time in the womb, which I think should be added to your overall age. Yeah. You would actually be 22.
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Mia Robertson
Yeah, but, I mean, I like being 21. I feel like 22 is really old.
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Phil Robertson
Okay.
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Jase Robertson
Oh, man, that hurts. I mean, I just turned 60 years old, and you're talking about 22 being. Oh, that was very. That was way in the rearview mirror for me.
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Phil Robertson
Hey, I'm trying to champion life here. I'm going into the womb. God created us in our mother's womb. Okay, so. But I would say so for the first. I don't know when this transition happened, but at some point, you started wanting to experience the outdoors with your dad because you fought that the first, let's just say, 20 years of your life. So what. What happened in that transition? I mean, where did this come about?
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Mia Robertson
Honestly, I'm trying to think. I don't even know. I think I was trying to find something else for us to do, to bond.
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Phil Robertson
Yeah.
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Mia Robertson
We only play cards, but I kind of wanted to be outside.
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Phil Robertson
Yeah.
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Mia Robertson
And so then I just wanted to go fishing. I couldn't find you. Mom was like, he's out there fishing. And I just ran up and caught up with you. And then I turned out to be pretty good at it.
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Phil Robertson
You are good at it. Yeah. I mean, a natural. I think the first. I don't know how many fishing trips we went on, two or three that you. We just. It was unbelievable.
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Mia Robertson
We caught 12 in, like 30 minutes or less.
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Phil Robertson
Yeah. And it wasn't fishing. It was just catching. And so. But we finally. She experienced on this trip our first adversity. The other night we went. You had some of your friends there. You had played it all up. We're just gonna go down there and catch them.
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Mia Robertson
Oh, yeah. I'd never been down there and not caught like a dozen.
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Phil Robertson
Yeah.
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Mia Robertson
So I was like, oh, we'll be back in 20 minutes with 10 fish and we'll cook them up.
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Phil Robertson
But it didn't happen. Well, we caught. You caught one huge brim, and then I think I caught one crappie. But in a weird way, it actually worked out because I cleaned them and your mom cooked them because I was going the next day on a trip and she took them to fail. So that was very nice. It turned out to be a good deed. So, yeah, we got that going on. So we struck out on the fish. And then she was telling me the stories what happened, because I thought this was interesting. Even though she's kind of had this epiphany where she's experienced in the outdoors with her dad and we've had success. And you really are good at it, because even when she had some of her friends there, I think me and you caught about the same every time. And her friends were lacking, even though all you basically had to do was just get the bait in the water, but you couldn't catch them. It's harder than it looks. So you were telling me yesterday that you went and played pickleball, which I don't even know what that is.
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Mia Robertson
It's like tennis for old people.
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Phil Robertson
Well, not anymore.
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Zach Dasher
Al.
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Phil Robertson
She's 21. Al. She's out there playing.
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Mia Robertson
The people on the other court were all younger than me. So it's a new thing. And I don't know, it's really fun. It's like tennis, but there's a shorter court and you have different paddles. Ping pong, kind of.
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Phil Robertson
Now this is going to be weird and y'all think I'm kidding, but I'm really not. Is a pickle an actual pickle involved, or is it.
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Mia Robertson
No, I don't know where. I don't know where that came from.
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Phil Robertson
So there's no. You don't eat a pickle after the game or whatever.
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Mia Robertson
I actually have no idea where it came from.
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Phil Robertson
That was throwing me off. I guess I could have looked it up, but I would just be embarrassed here.
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Jase Robertson
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Phil Robertson
I do. I own Oracle in my portfolio, so I didn't even realize they own netsuite. So tell us more about it. Al.
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Jase Robertson
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Phil Robertson
Well, I've told y'all before. I saw a man who was a. Let's just say he was a little off, but he was one of our cameramen, which my dad said was a prerequisite to being a cameraman. You had to be weird because every cameraman he met was weird. But he used to be a health food inspector, so whatever degree you get, that clarifies that. But what I learned is the way you get that is you just. You'll try anything. I told this story before on an earlier podcast, but one day we were filming, it was boring. We were in the duck blind. No, ducks were flying. He found a jar of pickles that had fallen through one of the cracks in the duck blind. And the expiration date was like 11 years old. And they didn't look like pickles, like green pickles. They kind of had a brown fuzz over them. They've been in here 11 years. And we're all sitting there, and he's like, huh? And everybody's like, gross. That's terrible. He pops the top. Of course, we're not thinking this guy used to be a food inspector, and he grabs one of those pickles, and it's just slime falling out of it. I kid you not. He just turned and took a huge bite and started chewing it up and swallowed it. And we all had the gag reflex. Everyone started gagging to the point where I couldn't look at another human because I thought, oh, it's right here. It's coming, it's coming. And. But then he assured us that he started talking about the acidic something, something, something. And he's like, perfectly fine to eat, but. And my dad was like, well, how is it? He's like, oh, it's terrible. But it's not. It won't cause any health problems. So he kind of. I can't remember what he said about that, but he did discuss that, but there was an expiration date on it, so I would figure that was deter lawsuits. So anyway, you're playing the pickleball game, and when I said, who won? You. You made an interesting comment. You said, well, it's really hard to say because the wind. And I was. I was curious by that comment. And you were like, whichever side the wind was in your favor. And I guess you mean with the wind or against the wind?
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Mia Robertson
Well, like, when it was really just who could serve? Like, wherever the wind was blowing, if you were on that side, because no matter how hard you hit it on the other side, it would not go over the net because the wind was blowing towards you. So you would lose the serve every time.
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Phil Robertson
Exactly. So whoever had the win in their favor won. So she was like, it really wasn't a competition, so. Well, you know where I went with that? The Holy Spirit is referred to as the wind. So just check this out. If the wind is in your favor via. If you have the Holy Spirit indwelling you, you're gonna win. See what I mean? You're telling me you don't see the connection? But I didn't say that yet. I waited till you told the next story, because Mia. I don't know where she got this from, but she's great at telling stories. You then said that. Tell the next story that you told.
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Mia Robertson
Okay, so we got crawfish the other day.
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Phil Robertson
We did because we struck out on the fish the night before.
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Mia Robertson
We struck out the fish and mom left, and we didn't really want to cook, and our fridge is kind of broken.
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Phil Robertson
It is.
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Mia Robertson
So we got limited room for groceries.
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Phil Robertson
And look, I want to just clarify this. I bought the most expensive industrial refrigerator in the world because I was tired of replacing refrigerators. And I've had this less than a year. And about every couple hours it goes be. It's the most annoying. The alarm is going off because the temperature is rising. So we called a refrigerator mechanic. Yes, there are refrigerator mechanics. And I was. He was inspecting. He got on the phone. It's a big long deal. Interesting fellow. And I said, what. What's the problem? And he's like, well, when you bought this, you know, now, because they're trying to save the planet, they all have this new system, some kind of gas that's supposed to. And it's an ounce of gas that rotates around this little ball, this spin. And speaking of pickleball. And he said, they basically. It just won't work. He said, but it's good for the planet. So I said, so what are you saying? He said, you shouldn't have bought the most expensive one. You need to buy the cheapest refrigerator out there because they're all going to go back. He said, fortunately for you, this happens sooner rather than later, and it's still under warranty. But, I mean, I just could not believe it. So anyway, our refrigerator is kind of on. On the. On the mess.
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Mia Robertson
So we got crawfish just because we didn't want to buy groceries.
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Phil Robertson
Yeah.
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Mia Robertson
And we got eight pounds of crawfish, and we got potatoes and corn, and I don't really eat it. I don't. I like it, but with, like, my mouth, it's just not. I can't really bite into a piece of corn.
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Phil Robertson
Yeah. So you only got the crawfish?
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Mia Robertson
I only eat the crawfish.
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Phil Robertson
Yeah.
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Mia Robertson
And we were powering through. It kind of felt like a little bit like we weren't just eating crawfish. It felt like I was, I don't know, like, training for the military. A little bit like, we were really.
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Phil Robertson
You got a tacit.
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Zach Dasher
You got to finish.
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Mia Robertson
Yes. We were like, oh, we're really full. We. We were like, no, this was like 66 doll. We have to eat all.
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Phil Robertson
That's another point. Look, crawfish. Al, when we had the crawfish farm, that was. I mean, we made pretty good money. But now eight pounds. So what is that, $66? We had eight pounds? What is that, a pound? Eight bucks a pound.
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Mia Robertson
Which we also got four butters and corn and potatoes, which cost money. So I think it's like $7.
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Phil Robertson
They charge for that. They charge for the extras. We actually ate three cups of those butters.
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Mia Robertson
Yeah, we did. Which I ate probably two and a half of them.
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Phil Robertson
Yeah, you did. I didn't even know that was a thing. Look, you know what's funny? When I woke up the next morning, I thought, I smell butter. And then I. I realized that some of the residue from the beard was lingering.
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Mia Robertson
Oh, yeah.
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Phil Robertson
You know what is funny about that? You talk about a fun memory. So we. We powered through because we got, you know, what was left was about 30 of the smaller ones. And me, I was like, we paid $66 for this. I mean, I was like, I don't. I don't think I can eat it. I mean, I. I was. And we were at the wall. But we did eat everyone.
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Mia Robertson
Yeah, we ate everyone. And the little ones. I think this is what caused my later problem. They were so spicy, because I think. I don't know why. The little ones were just so much more spicy. But when I was going to bed that night, my fingers were burning, and I already took a shower.
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Jase Robertson
Yeah.
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Phil Robertson
We both immediately took a shower. Because the crawfish are messy.
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Mia Robertson
Yeah. It's on my shirt. Like, you're just. I told dad.
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Zach Dasher
You went all in.
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Mia Robertson
I told Dad. I was like, I could never. This is the most, like, unladylike I ever feel.
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Phil Robertson
Yeah.
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Mia Robertson
Because I'm like, I could never go. That's, like, the worst first date story. I think, like, if you're going to eat crawfish on your first date, there's no way a woman would enjoy that because it's just. You make. It makes us look so bad. Because I always leave smelling. I put my hair up, and it's just. It's not good. So I took a shower with cold water at the end because my fingers were burning so bad.
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Phil Robertson
Yeah.
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Mia Robertson
And I take a Benadryl. I'm like, I'm freaking out. There's nothing. I cannot see anything wrong with my fingers, but I'm like. I think, like, they're on fire. So I'm looking it up. Like, why is my finger burning? Like, the skin of my fingers are gonna fall off. And I look like, if crawfish could have that effect, that it said yes because of the spices. So I. Until, like, my Benadryl kicked in. I was literally, like, in pain, like, curled up in a ball. But dad said that story about fire.
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Phil Robertson
Oh yeah.
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Mia Robertson
Is like relating to the spirit.
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Jase Robertson
No.
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Phil Robertson
Okay, we're going back to John the Baptist. Remember he said, I baptize you with water or in water. But the one coming after me, he will baptize you with fire. The spirit and fire.
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Jase Robertson
Remember Al? Yeah.
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Phil Robertson
I was like, look, what are the odds though? She came in and told me two stories. I went and played pickleball. Who won? Doesn't matter because whoever had the wind in their favor won. The second one was my. The story she just told, my fingers were on fire. And I thought, what are we going to talk about? We're going to talk about wind and fire as spirit and dwell people. Don't you think that's cool?
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Mia Robertson
I think that's pretty cool.
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Jase Robertson
So Jace, what would you say is probably what is the biggest inspiration that has come to you from persecuted Christians? Whether it was our forefathers way back in the biblical days or even what's going on today?
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Phil Robertson
I think we're not just people who believe Jesus is real, but you see proof of that by people willing to give up their lives rather than deny Jesus is who he says he is.
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Jase Robertson
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Phil Robertson
But here's the good thing. Since mom was away, your mom, my wife, we did that right in the middle of the kitchen because usually that's frowned upon with your mom. She's like, let's go take that outside. Let's so. But it was a pretty good cleanup. And then we both had to go take a shower, you know, I mean, it's like you go to your own separate rooms. Yeah, it is an ordeal. But we paid $66 for that adventure, which was embarrassing. Here's the funny part, man, when you was telling that story. Do you know, I don't know if you know this? The second date that I took your mom on, we're dating, I had to go pick up crawfish bait. Cause that's when we had our crawfish farm. And it was three, like, trash cans, think of. They were metal cans with lids on them of fish heads that have been put out of the fish market. And it was summertime. And so when I got out, you know how those movies, they have the fly sound, you know? And so I told her. I was like, well, I hate we got to do this, but I got to get this crawfish bait. I said, whatever you do, do not take the lid off of that can. Because she was curious what was in there. I was like, if you do that, not only is the date going to be over, you would have actually never been here, man. If she would have popped the lid on the buffalo heads, because that would have been a deal breaker. But I was surprised that she got on the other end because they were, I would say, 75 pounds. And so she helped me get crawfish bait on our second date. I took that as a good sign.
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Mia Robertson
Yeah.
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Phil Robertson
That is knowing. Knowing her like you do now, I.
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Mia Robertson
Could not see that he did it.
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Jase Robertson
Oh. So just. Just hearing that, it took me back to my childhood. I mean, it's like everybody has this traumatic place that you go to. And for me, it's those smells that you're describing. Because when growing up with fish guts and hauling stuff off to the river and smelly cheese they were putting in dad's socks. And just. I mean, it was just. How much more disgusting could a childhood be? And so just hearing that, just, like, I just kind of had post traumatic stress disorder when it comes to smelly fish and smelly things. So that's. That. That takes me back as well. So if I'm not mistaken, Mia, the last time you were on the podcast, you guys had just completed a Mia Moo yearly gathering where people come in from all over the country. And these are folks that. That you guys help and that, you know, make possible for them to have some of the blessings that you had, which is an amazing ministry. And so tell the folks how that's going I know it's a yearly thing that you guys do all the time, as well as a. Think you're doing a newsletter now and just a lot of regular interaction. So give us a little Mia Moo update.
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Mia Robertson
So, actually, we used to do, like, a yearly fundraiser. I think it used to be, like, poker.
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Phil Robertson
Yeah.
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Mia Robertson
Y'all used to have a poker night or something.
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Phil Robertson
Well, yeah, it was. It was all for charity.
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Mia Robertson
You know, for charity.
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Phil Robertson
We figured out that. Mia doing a newsletter.
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Mia Robertson
Yeah, that's what I was gonna say. Like, go ahead. Yeah, we used to do poker, and we used to do other fundraisers, but now the only thing that we do is a monthly newsletter. A newsletter. And that brings in so much money, so we don't really. Which is, like, a good problem to have, but we don't really need to do a bunch of fundraisers anymore because, like, me and has so much money now from people donating.
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Phil Robertson
Yeah.
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Mia Robertson
And so we still do our Miami Fun Day, which is, like, first weekend of October. And so it's March now, so we had that a few months ago. But everyone I've talked to. And I guess you can say this, too, like, that was the best year that we've had, I think.
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Phil Robertson
So.
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Mia Robertson
Like, we had so many people come from my school. We had 12 students come as volunteers. As volunteers, and we did a color run, and each color represented something that they, like, became clothed with on their white shirts, so that whenever they left the BMU Funday weekend, like, they left, it was, like, strength, wisdom, like, things like that that now they, like, could carry with them throughout the rest of the year.
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Phil Robertson
Yeah. Because it's a very tough venture, as you can attest. There's lots of surgeries, lots of pain, and you're just. You feel different. You look different. So, yeah, it was a. It was a huge success. And just to, you know, talk about the newsletter or whatever, I mean, that was Mia's idea, and it's a lot like the Bible. It tells a story, and so you're telling these kids stories, and that's what is powerful about it. These are real people who are going through real struggles, and people hear their stories, and they want to help out in a small way. So it's fantastic. It was a good idea, man.
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Jase Robertson
So, Mia, our perspective of sort of your childhood and really your whole life, as it turns out, is one kind of being on the outside and, you know, knowing that you're going to the hospital. You know, many times different ones of us in the family were there, and we're in the waiting Room and kind of hand holding with your folks and, and you know, just praying for you and stuff like that and then seeing you after it was over. And so our whole perspective of that is now the era of who you are. But I'm really curious what it was like from your perspective. How many surgeries have you. Have you had?
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Mia Robertson
I've had 16.
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Jase Robertson
So that's like. And you're 21 years old. So that's like 16 out of 21 years. You know, you were in some sort of major surgery which is most of your life. And so all of us can't imagine what that was like for you. And so I'm really interested. I don't know if I've ever asked you this off camera own what that was like to grow up to have doctors and nurses and checkups and follow ups and going in for, you know, pre surgery and all the things that you've done your whole life. So what was that like? Was it, did you something you just got used to or you know, you know, how, how did you get through it and then also how has it shaped you into the, the person you are today?
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Mia Robertson
I think I didn't realize how like intense like my childhood was until I got older. And like an example I've always thought is like at Camp Chioka we have prayer night. And I never asked during prayer night, hey, like, I'm having surgery coming up. Like, it just didn't feel. It wasn't really a burden on my heart of like, I'm having this surgery. Like, hey, I need prayers. Like, I've had a hard life. Like that never, that thought never crossed my mind. I never once brought that up. And like now that I'm older, I'm like, I cannot believe. I never thought that that was like a big deal. Like, yeah, oh, hey, I'm about to have surgery and I can't chew food for a year. Please pray for me. It was like, oh, no, just have another surgery. Like going to Dallas every six weeks, like it felt like so normal. And so I would like ask for prayer about something else that's like, was much smaller. Like, oh, like something about school. And so until I had a big surgery my junior year of high school, now that I was older, like, it really affected me.
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Phil Robertson
Yeah.
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Mia Robertson
And like it made my like, which I guess, maybe, I guess you would, you would notice. But like my face changes slightly every time I have surgery.
- [28:20]
Phil Robertson
So my doctor says a little more than slightly.
- [28:23]
Mia Robertson
But like after like a year of surgery. Yeah, like my face just looks a little bit Different. We know. Everyone's like, they can still tell that's Mia. Oh, hey, it's Mia. But, yeah, like, slight changes. But the older you get, they say, the harder it is to have, like, major facial surgeries. Because even though it's like, yeah, that's. To my face, it looks just a little bit different, which is really hard on you.
- [28:45]
Phil Robertson
Yeah.
- [28:46]
Mia Robertson
So I didn't realize that until my junior year. I was like, I look different. I sound different. And it was really hard on me.
- [28:53]
Phil Robertson
Yeah. And it's hard. It was hard on the parents. Be For a different reason. It's like, it's a weird. It's hard to explain. It's like everything about your kid, you grow to love. And so when something changes, you feel like you changed everything you loved about the kid, even though, you know, oh, this is for better health and there's some kind of psychological issue there. So probably the most basket case moments of being a part of this, your adventure, was that it's like, I remember the first time you had the surgery and you came, Me and your mom just busted out, mauling. We're like, what happened? Even though it was like, this is great. The doctor was like, what's wrong with you? It went awesome. We were like, what happened to our girl? She's different. So there's some kind of psychological thing. And then I think it happens to the actual person going through the surgery later. And I think that some of that was. Is just. You're now a teenager. You're aware of what people think. It's just so amazing that when they're kids, that's why they handle it the best. There's. Oh, yeah, I got another surgery.
- [30:13]
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Jase Robertson
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Jase Robertson
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Zach Dasher
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- [31:47]
Mia Robertson
Be honest. Like, I always have, like, one breakdown. Like, and dad saw it one time. Dad will lock himself in his room, basically, when I have surgery, because he, like, cannot see me. And it's not like he's, you know, bad dad. It's just, like, it's hard for him to see me, like, suffering. Suffering. Yeah, it is. But I always have one. And it's just because usually, I mean, anybody's like this when they're hungry. Like, you are just at your worst. You're so hungry. And I've. I've eaten the same meal for, like, three weeks, and all I want is, like, a cheeseburger or something.
- [32:22]
Phil Robertson
Yeah.
- [32:22]
Mia Robertson
And I'm just so ready for it to be done. And I remember after that surgery I had two years ago or a year and a half ago, they were like, oh, like three weeks, you know? And then you can eat solid food. I was like, three weeks. This is the best day of my life. Like, it's not like eight or ten. And, like, three weeks go by, and we facetime my doctor, and he's like, yeah, good to go. And then my orthodontist calls me. He's like, no, you need to wait six more weeks. And I was like, okay. So they were kind of going back and forth, and they're like, no, you need to wait. And I just, like, lost it. We were watching some, like, chick flick. Me and my mom were on the couch, and I just lost it because I just wanted to eat, like, a burger so bad.
- [33:03]
Jase Robertson
Yeah.
- [33:04]
Mia Robertson
And dad walked out, and you were talking to mom, and then you, like, saw me, and you were like. And then he Just walked back in.
- [33:10]
Phil Robertson
It was like too much drama. Too much. Too much drama too soon.
- [33:14]
Mia Robertson
Yeah. So it always happens. I just feel like ever since then, ever since my junior year, I've always had, like, one, like, day where I just want to, like, cry.
- [33:23]
Phil Robertson
Yeah.
- [33:24]
Mia Robertson
But then I'll pick myself up together and pick, you know, do good and push through. But, yeah, I feel like that day. I don't know when it's coming, but I always know, like, I'm gonna have one breakdown, so.
- [33:35]
Jase Robertson
Mia, I've just. I've never thought about what you just said before. It struck me as such a. Such a huge thought, is that you have spent so much of your life waiting to be healed. I mean, in other words, you have this procedure, and then it's like weeks or months or whatever they're telling you, and you've got to patiently wait for that to happen, to go back to eat again, to be able to have a conversation again. So most of your life, in essence, has been spent waiting on something, waiting on. Follow up, waiting on the next surgery, waiting on, you know, I mean, I look at my own life. I've had one major surgery, one when I was a kid, but I don't even remember because I was very, very young, but only one that I can recall. And I only had, you know, a couple of weeks to get over that. So I. You know, being an impatient person myself, I haven't had to wait that much. What. I mean, what's that like to. To spend most of your life waiting?
- [34:33]
Mia Robertson
So I feel like. I feel like that's kind of funny because I feel like I'm not a patient person, but I feel like when it comes to, like, serious things, like, I've gotten to be very okay with, like, waiting for things.
- [34:44]
Phil Robertson
Yeah.
- [34:46]
Mia Robertson
But, yeah, I think. I don't know if I have to have another surgery. They've always said, oh, you're done, and then I'll come back and I have to have another one. But I know I don't have to have any major surgeries, which is really nice. So these are just kind of cosmetic surgeries now.
- [35:02]
Phil Robertson
Yeah.
- [35:03]
Mia Robertson
Is like scar tissue and things like that. But.
- [35:05]
Phil Robertson
Yeah. So that's where I get angry, because some, you know, I'm like, how can you be off in your diagnosis six weeks? You know.
- [35:14]
Mia Robertson
Yeah.
- [35:15]
Phil Robertson
So that's part of the reason, too.
- [35:17]
Zach Dasher
That especially when a cheeseburger's involved, I'd.
- [35:19]
Mia Robertson
Be like, that's what I'm saying. But I will say it wasn't whenever I was born, they told you I was going to have four surgeries.
- [35:25]
Phil Robertson
Yeah, that was the. That was the first meeting we had. They. They looked at her and said, okay, she'll probably have four surgeries, you know, before she quits grow. And so, I mean, was it 16?
- [35:37]
Mia Robertson
16.
- [35:38]
Phil Robertson
They were off by 12. And that's not counting just all the little procedures that she's not calling surgeries, but when. I mean, little procedures. Very uncomfortable that we would kind of probably deem as surgeries if we were involved. But, you know, I was thinking about one of our theme verses for me, Amu is this. Romans 5. And just to show how it's such a long process. And, you know, here the context is suffering for Jesus, but it's kind of the same principle when he says, we've been justified through faith. We have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ, through whom we have gained access by faith into his grace in which we now stand. And we rejoice in the hope of the glory of God. Not only so, but we also rejoice in our sufferings because we know that suffering produces perseverance, perseverance, character. And character, hope. And hope does not disappoint us because God has poured out his love into our hearts by the Holy Spirit he has given us. And I've just seen that process in her life, you know, number one in your faith, because it was bumpy when you were in your later teen years, just dealing with all the differences in your appearance and have another teenager. And teenagers can be mean, just like little kids, but it doesn't really matter when you're a little kid, you're more resilient, you know. And so she, in my opinion, really got grounded in your faith somewhere in that process. And I think it's turned, you know, who you are today. I mean, that process, as bumpy as it was, I think your connection with your maker through Jesus, you know, has really given you a peace. So.
- [37:31]
Mia Robertson
Well, I think I got, like, to practice this when I studied abroad, and I was in Costa Rica and Guatemala and Panama, which are not the safest countries. But a lot of things happened where our power would go out for four days. And we don't have any ac, we don't have any hot water, and I couldn't contact my family. And we were just waiting for these people to, like, fix whatever was wrong. And then I was thinking, like, why would I be stressed about this when there's literally nothing I can do? Like, yes, our food would go bad and we lost money from that. But I was like, I mean, it's okay. Like, it's not the end of the world. And I think all these years of, like, practicing doing that, like, has made me who I am today, where, like, the girls I was with were freaking out about their salmon going bad or freaking out. I'm like, we just. This is a perfect opportunity for us to be unplugged, and we get to stay in our room, and we just. And we just made the most of it. And I feel like that was the Lord, like, equipping me with those, like, virtues to, like, help other people. Because, like, some of the people I was abroad with, they didn't really have those virtues. They didn't have. They never had to wait for anything in their life. And so when you're thrown into a country where, like, not everything's about you, like, you don't get what you get. Like, they just. Sometimes we'd show up for a trip, and the bus driver didn't show up for work that day. And so we were like, all right, so we're just calling people or hitchhiking, and it's kind of what you have to do. And I think that even though it was kind of a sketchy time, like, it really taught me and, like, was able. I was able to practice everything that the Lord has taught me growing up. So I just feel like. Like, leaning in. It just really takes practice.
- [39:17]
Phil Robertson
Yeah.
- [39:18]
Mia Robertson
Like, it's not something you can just do the first time, but I feel like it's made me like, I have a chill personality.
- [39:24]
Zach Dasher
Yeah.
- [39:24]
Mia Robertson
Because you can't predict everything.
- [39:27]
Phil Robertson
Yeah.
- [39:27]
Jase Robertson
So, Mia, you were talking about that the idea of it's not a major surgery, you know, and that's easy to say when it's somebody else. It reminds me, Zach, when you and I met the. For the first time, we met Dr. Ben Carson, and. And we were in a setting, and he was telling a story about how that the first time he was going in to be the HUD secretary, someone said, well, Dr. Carson, I mean, aren't you intimidated by this huge responsibility, and you've got millions of employees and HUD and all this stuff? And he looked at us and he. He winked. Got it. And he said, well, it's not brain surgery. And it was such a good lie, because it was like, are you kidding me? I mean, having to go through this. And, Mia, that's what makes me think of you. When somebody says, well, it's not something major, and you're just like, yeah, well, you know, neither is waiting six weeks on a cheeseburger, but you Know, at the same time, it's what you learn to go through.
- [40:26]
Zach Dasher
So here's a question for you. What is the gospel? The way you answer that question has a lot of significance in how you live your life out. And we would argue, based on the teaching of Jesus in the Book of Mark, that that definition of the gospel should not be separate from the coming of the kingdom based on Jesus's words in Mark. We're talking about this on my new podcast called Not Yet Now. Would love to invite you guys to join. We're going to go through the series, the series on the Book of Mark. We launch every Tuesday and would love to have you guys be a part of it. So go check us out Not yet now podcast with Zach Dasher. You can find us anywhere. Podcasts are heard. The title again is Not yet now with Zach Dasher. Or you can check us out on YouTube as well at Dasherzach. Zacherzach. Hope to see you guys there.
- [41:19]
Phil Robertson
Well, every time she comes home, it's so funny. When you walk in, you probably don't realize you do this. It's like when you walk in, it's like somebody pushes a button and it's an hour of one story after another.
- [41:31]
Mia Robertson
But you do that, too.
- [41:33]
Phil Robertson
I do the same thing.
- [41:34]
Jase Robertson
It's not hard for me to understand who the top storyteller is in that. That house. I mean, unashamed Nation can speak to this. Mia, there's no doubt your dad has this unique. We always says because he's named after Sai, but he's got this ability to tell any story and to tell it, you know, in an elongated fashion where it's the worst possible thing that happened. And trust me, Mia, you are a chip off the old block. You know, you're. You're the continuation of the J stories that have no end but that we love.
- [42:08]
Mia Robertson
Especially if I have other people, if there's someone else coming to the house.
- [42:12]
Phil Robertson
Well, I picked the strays off because I'm thinking they're there for a reason. That's why I'm doing it.
- [42:19]
Mia Robertson
I'm talking to them for an hour and a half.
- [42:22]
Phil Robertson
But what am I doing now? Tell them what I'm talking to them about.
- [42:25]
Mia Robertson
You're talking to them about, like, what y'all talk on the podcast? You're talking to them about Jesus.
- [42:29]
Phil Robertson
Exactly.
- [42:29]
Mia Robertson
But I think sometimes I think you're nervous that maybe they don't know about Jesus. Yeah, but everyone I'm bringing, they like the people that were there the other day. I mean, she works for Sadie. And she's like, she's strong. So, I mean, she was. She was good because she was talking. He's making sure, which is good.
- [42:49]
Jase Robertson
Taking those conversions.
- [42:50]
Phil Robertson
I'm just. Ever since you've been a teenager in that bumpy time.
- [42:54]
Mia Robertson
Yeah.
- [42:55]
Phil Robertson
I made a vow and I said, okay, here is the condition by which I'm going to share with your friends. When they come over, I'm like, if they walk through the door, if they walk through that door, I'm going to view them as sent by God. So I just have a conversation. But now I will tell you, most of your friends ask me, like, a biblical question because they. So they.
- [43:23]
Jase Robertson
They.
- [43:23]
Phil Robertson
They're like, what do you think?
- [43:25]
Jase Robertson
So prerequisite. That was the word.
- [43:27]
Phil Robertson
Yeah. Yeah, it's.
- [43:29]
Mia Robertson
But I will. I will say one thing that's kind of fun is my friends taught, like, my college friends are awesome. And like, to me and Layla's friends, and they will say, like, me, you're so much like your dad. Like, we didn't think that you were, like a yapper until we met your dad.
- [43:44]
Jase Robertson
Oh.
- [43:45]
Zach Dasher
And we were like, I like your friends.
- [43:47]
Mia Robertson
Then they're like, y'all are just alike. And I'm not picking on you because they love coming over. And they always talk about, like, your dad is awesome and, like, they love you so much. But they're like, like the fourth or fifth time we've been to the house. They're like, sometimes, like, I know that it's okay if I, like, want to go upstairs.
- [44:03]
Phil Robertson
Yeah.
- [44:03]
Mia Robertson
Like, take a show or something and come back down.
- [44:05]
Phil Robertson
They're not gonna hurt my feelings.
- [44:06]
Mia Robertson
No. But like, the first two times I, like, didn't know. And so they just sit there and I'm like, we'll talk for four hours.
- [44:13]
Phil Robertson
Yeah.
- [44:13]
Mia Robertson
Like, you gotta, like, just be like, okay, good night.
- [44:16]
Phil Robertson
Here's my sign. As long as you're standing there or sitting there, I'm gonna keep. I'm gonna keep pouring it in until I hit a nerve.
- [44:24]
Mia Robertson
Yeah. But most people don't talk as much as we do. And so I do that too. And I don't realize that, like, like, oh, they just are trying not to make me feel bad. Like, they're so tired. But I'll do it too. So I got that from you. And I'm not mad about it. I like that.
- [44:38]
Jase Robertson
But so me, I got a question for you. You know that your dad, that, Zach, that, myself, we all have spent different points in our lives doing full time ministry, working for the church in some fashion, of course. I was the one that hung in there the longest because I'm the most patient out of. Out of us three. But so we all had to have a background work for the church and ministry. And you now have also had that experience. And you. Did you intern? Was it last summer or when was it?
- [45:08]
Mia Robertson
No, I'm still working there right now.
- [45:10]
Jase Robertson
Oh. Oh, so you still are. Yeah, I got it, I got it, I got it. So tell me what that's like. What do. What do you do for the church? I mean, what's. What's your interaction? What's. What's your job consist of?
- [45:20]
Mia Robertson
So I found this church. It's honestly, like, just, like, Whites Ferry Road, which I think is kind of funny, because I don't think I saw myself at a church like, that, like, going to college, especially, like, Church of Christ. I, like, had gone to the super big church, and in Franklin, Tennessee, which I really loved. But I would go in there and I would sit in the service, and no one would talk to me, which is totally fine. I just, like, needed that. As a college student going to church by myself. Sermons were awesome. Worship was awesome, but I would leave, and I had no friends from that church, and so I really prayed about it. And this was the entire freshman year of college, and I was like, I really need a church that, like, kind of just feels like home and feels like a family, even if it's not the best sermon I've ever, ever heard every single Sunday. Like, it's okay. Like, I just need this community. And so I get on Instagram, and the first Instagram story I see is this guy from my school, and he posted. He said, come to Harpeth Hills tonight. I was like, all right. I'm just. I just prayed about it. I'm just gonna show up.
- [46:23]
Phil Robertson
Maybe that's the answer.
- [46:24]
Mia Robertson
Maybe that's the answer. And so I show up thinking there's gonna be, like, you know, 50 people in the college, like, six people there, and they're. And they're all friends. So I'm like, oh, hey, y'all. Like, I'm mia. I don't know anyone here. And they're all friends. And we just. We played, like, a game. I was like, okay, this was really fun. And the pastor, like, the college pastor, his wife, she came and talked to me, and we talked for, like, an hour. And I left that place. I was like, even we did. We just played a game because no one showed up tonight. But that was the most I've gotten out of church in, like, a year. Even though we didn't even, like, really talk about, like, anything. And so I kept coming back, and then there was still about 10 people there maybe every single Wednesday night. And it was so good. Like, I just fell in love with this place, started going on Sundays, and I was sitting in there in the a cappella service, and you cannot fit another person in there. There was hundreds of people in there, and they're all just singing acapella songs. And it brought me back. I was like, I really, really love it here. And then when I went and studied abroad, they sent me mail, which it never made it to me because they don't have addresses in Costa Rica. But I was like, they really care about me. And so they asked me to work for them and be the college intern for my junior year. And I didn't really know what that looked like. I thought, I guess I'm leading worship. I don't really know what my job is. And so. And the guy that offered me the job, he didn't even know I did worship or didn't know I played piano or anything. He was like, we wanted you to just be now. Oh, now they need interns because now there's 80 people coming to our college group.
- [48:08]
Jase Robertson
Wow.
- [48:08]
Mia Robertson
And I invited my friends, and now they all come. And now there's, like, underclassmen coming. And basically there's so many new people coming every week that they need people to, like, be a friend of them. And I got that from dad. I can talk with anybody, which is why I love that I got that from you, because that's really what got me this job, is I can talk to somebody that I've never met, and they're my best friend. We're chatting it up. And then my boss figured out I actually sing and play piano. So he was like, oh, okay, well, you can be in charge of that. So now we got 20 people on the worship team that are in college. And I scheduled that, and that got started because Max Dasher was like, you need to comely worship with me, Zach's son. Yeah. And we started doing that for, like, weeks in a row. And we planned not a single song. And we would sit up there and do music for, like, 30 minutes. And it was spontaneous worship, literally from the Holy Spirit. Like, we were singing songs from, like, the 90s that I, like, didn't even know. I knew the words too, but the Lord put it on my heart, and so I just fell in love with it. And now there's so many people there.
- [49:16]
Phil Robertson
That's awesome.
- [49:17]
Mia Robertson
So it's not Like a hard job. But I'm just being a light and just trying to connect people with the right people and make, like, our church a home. And I love it.
- [49:26]
Phil Robertson
Yeah, I love that. You know what hit me when she was talking like that? It's like when you. I mean, we're starting in the Book of John, and we always look at Jesus did all these miracles to show that he was the son of God. But when you look at it from the people's perspective, I mean, I thought about even Nicodemus being a religious leader. And then the next thing, you get a woman who's been married multiple times and is alone, and Jesus had a conversation. And then you think, John 5, there was an invalid who had been born that way for 38 years, it says. And then John 8, remember the woman caught in adultery and John 9, the man born blind? Well, from their perspective, what Jesus did was really change their identity, because for years you were known as the girl with the cleft lip and palate craniofacial. And so I thought about all that. That's a big transition where something wrong with you physically or spiritually from the Book of John. But where that is your identity, I mean, that. That all of a sudden gets changed in Jesus, where it's hard to put into words, but really that's the way God used you. I mean, he changed your identity. Like I said, it was bumpy. And you shared that when you were a teenager, but you found your identity in Christ, and now look at what you're doing. You're being a representative to him. I just think there's a powerful message in there somewhere for everybody.
- [50:58]
Jase Robertson
And when you think about it, really, I mean, and Mia mentioned this earlier, every time she had a surgery, in a sense, from a physical perspective, her identity changed because she looked differently. And that would matter to anybody. But in my opinion, it matters more to young girls and young women. And so the fact that not only did that not derail you, but also helped you to understand, to help other people shows me that your identity in Christ is really the main thing. And so, Mia, you. You seem to have learned that over the course of a lifetime, and now you're able to help other people find that identity. So what a blessing, and what a blessing for us that we got to hear these stories today. Zach, you, once again, you've outdone yourself, bringing on such an amazing guest. And Mia, I just want you to know, anytime you're in town for spring break, for summer breaks, for whatever, you have a warm chair, that is open to you on the Unashamed podcast. We sure are glad to have you on.
- [51:59]
Mia Robertson
Thank you. Thanks for having me on.
- [52:01]
Jase Robertson
Awesome. Well, you're welcome back anytime. That wraps it up for us. We'll see you next time on Unashamed. Thanks for listening to the Unashamed podcast. Help us out by leaving a rating and review on Apple Podcast. And don't miss an episode by subscribing on YouTube. And be sure to click the little bell and choose all notifications to watch every episode out.