Ep 1063 | Jase Bungles Date Night at ‘The Chosen’ Premiere & After Parties with Nuns??

Summary

Podcast Summary: Unashamed with the Robertson Family
Episode: Ep 1063 | Jase Bungles Date Night at ‘The Chosen’ Premiere & After Parties with Nuns??
Release Date: March 26, 2025
Host/Author: Tread Lively

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Introduction

In Episode 1063 of "Unashamed with the Robertson Family," hosts Phil Robertson, Jase Robertson, and Zach Dasher delve into a series of amusing and insightful anecdotes centered around a recent date night gone awry. The episode intertwines personal stories with deep theological discussions inspired by the premiere of the popular Christian series, "The Chosen." Listeners are treated to a blend of humor, faith, and reflections on biblical narratives, all set against the backdrop of West Monroe, Louisiana.

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Main Story: Jase's Eventful Date Night

Setting the Scene

The episode kicks off with Jase recounting an unexpected encounter at the Atlanta airport, where Zach Dasher sits behind him and attempts to record the situation with his phone. This initial mishap sets the tone for the evening's unfolding events.

Phil's Embarrassing Premiere Experience

Phil narrates his attempt to enjoy a date night with his wife at the season five premiere of "The Chosen" in Dallas. Despite meticulous planning, unforeseen challenges emerge:

• Missing Credentials and Miscommunication
  Phil (03:08): "I decided to confess in this story my personal problems here... Without the team, you just can't do it."

  Without the support of their usual team, Phil and Missy Robertson find themselves without proper credentials, leading to confusion and embarrassment at the premiere.

• Encounter with Cast and Crew
  Phil (05:25): "So we get up there, take a picture. Good to see you. I didn't know you all were going to be here."

  Their lack of credentials initially prevents them from accessing the event smoothly. However, after a serendipitous moment where someone recognizes Phil, they manage to enter but still face hurdles accessing their seats.

Unexpected After Party with Nuns

Phil describes the after-party experience as uniquely surprising:

• Meeting Nuns at the After Party
  Phil (20:08): "The first group of people... was a nun. And they got invited... a change the water to wine party."

  The after-party, unlike typical Hollywood gatherings, features nuns, adding an unexpected twist to the evening.

• Friendship and Recognition
  Phil (21:25): "She had watched our show. I wonder what her first impression was."

  The interaction with the nun who is a fan of "Duck Dynasty" showcases the unexpected connections that can form even in mixed gatherings.

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Theological Discussions: Insights Inspired by 'The Chosen'

Exploring Biblical Narratives

The conversation shifts to a deep analysis of "The Chosen," particularly focusing on themes from John 4 and Luke 10:

• Good Samaritan and Breaking Cultural Barriers
  Phil (27:00): "Which is why they had an after party at the hotel... bringing people together."

  The hosts discuss how "The Chosen" portrays Jesus breaking cultural and societal barriers, emphasizing inclusivity and forgiveness.

• Kingdom of God in Action
  Phil (53:39): "Each encounter, every conversation... introducing where the king reigns."

  They delve into the concept of the Kingdom of God as an active, inclusive realm where Jesus' spirit unites diverse individuals.

Connecting Personal Experiences with Scripture

Phil and Zach draw parallels between their personal lives and biblical stories:

• Building Wellspring Road
  Jase (46:39): "We have to be Christ here... naming the road Wellspring."

  Reflecting on an incident where a spring was discovered during the construction of their home, the Robertson family connects this event to their mission of being spiritual "wellspring" in their community.

• Application of Luke 10 and John 4
  Phil (35:23): "He was introducing the Kingdom in action... Jesus wants to bring all people together."

  The discussion highlights how modern life and personal challenges can mirror biblical lessons, reinforcing the episode's central theme of unity and spiritual fulfillment.

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Personal Reflections and Ministry Insights

Harnessing the Power of Faith in Daily Life

The Robertson family shares how their faith guides their actions and responses to life's unpredictabilities:

• Embracing the Harvest
  Zach (54:40): "The harvest is plentiful... the problem's always on the worker side."

  Emphasizing the abundance of opportunities to spread the Gospel, Zach underscores the importance of being receptive and spirit-led in ministry efforts.

• Seeking First the Kingdom
  Phil (55:07): "Seek first his kingdom... where the king reigns."

  Phil reinforces the biblical principle of prioritizing God's kingdom in all endeavors, drawing a clear line between material concerns and spiritual missions.

Integrating Faith with Daily Challenges

Through anecdotes like digging a well post-storm, the hosts illustrate practical applications of faith:

• Responding to Crisis with Faith
  Jase (43:17): "I dug a well... it's like the setting here in John 4."

  Linking the physical act of securing water with spiritual sustenance, they highlight the continuous need for both physical and spiritual replenishment.

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Conclusion: Embracing Unashamed Faith

In this episode, "Unashamed with the Robertson Family" masterfully blends humor, personal stories, and theological insights to convey a powerful message of faith and inclusivity. The Robertson family's unashamed stance in sharing the Gospel is evident through their candid recounting of an embarrassing yet enlightening experience at "The Chosen" premiere. By drawing deep connections between their lives and biblical narratives, they inspire listeners to seek God's kingdom, embrace unity, and live out their faith authentically in every aspect of life.

Notable Quotes:

• Phil Robertson (01:01): "I am unashamed. What about you?"
• Phil Robertson (03:45): "You can't function as a normal human being without the team."
• Phil Robertson (05:25): "Good to see you. I didn't know you all were going to be here."
• Phil Robertson (20:08): "The first group of people... was a nun."
• Phil Robertson (53:39): "Each encounter, every conversation... introducing where the king reigns."
• Phil Robertson (55:07): "Seek first his kingdom... where the king reigns."

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This detailed summary encapsulates the key points, discussions, insights, and conclusions from Episode 1063 of "Unashamed with the Robertson Family," providing a comprehensive overview for those who haven't listened to the episode.

Transcript

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[Jase Robertson]

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[Phil Robertson]

I am unashamed. What about you?

[Jase Robertson]

Welcome back to Unashamed Podcast. So Jason, I'm in the Atlanta airport last night and this person rudely sits down behind me, shakes all the chairs and I kind of look over my shoulder and it's Zach.

[Zach Dasher]

I gave him like a zerp. You know what a zerp is? You like take your two fingers and you like get them in the side like the rib cage. And it used to used to be.

[Jase Robertson]

In my fat side, but now that I'm losing all this weight there was now he actually got and I've got.

[Zach Dasher]

The camera, my cell phone, and I'm doing like a I try to record the whole thing so I could like surprise him.

[Phil Robertson]

I'm not familiar with yuppie dialogue or phrases that came from a world.

[Jase Robertson]

When you're in an airport, there's a lot of strange people already. So it just kind of fit into.

[Zach Dasher]

I was flying in town, I didn'.

[Jase Robertson]

He was coming here and I didn't even know you were going to be here. So I was shocked.

[Phil Robertson]

While you were like 30 minutes late, you were on east coast time.

[Zach Dasher]

I was on east coast time.

[Jase Robertson]

Yeah. We're sitting there waiting as like. Well, it doesn't do much good for Zach to be in town if he doesn't show up.

[Phil Robertson]

Yeah, yeah, I was embarrassing. So speaking of embarrassing, okay, so I took a little trip, had a date night with my wife few days ago. I'm not sure how long ago it was is one of the most embarrassing things that has ever happened on date.

[Jase Robertson]

Night on Date night.

[Phil Robertson]

Yep. So just think, you plan all this, it's gonna be great.

[Jase Robertson]

And you've had a lot of embarrassing things happen in your life.

[Phil Robertson]

Really.

[Jase Robertson]

You may not realize it, but.

[Phil Robertson]

Yeah, no, I didn't. I mean, look, you gotta have thick skin in life. So we went to the season five premiere of the Chosen, and it was in Dallas. Last year, it was in la, which was very uncomfortable for me.

[Jase Robertson]

Yeah, it's not good.

[Phil Robertson]

So. Not that I don't like la. I just don't want to be there. But we went. We took it for the team. So this year it's in Dallas because I think that's their kind of hub.

[Jase Robertson]

It is now.

[Phil Robertson]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Zach Dasher]

Where they film outside of Dallas, I think. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Phil Robertson]

So here we go. So here. We decided to do something. Look, I'm going to confess in this story my personal problems here. And one of them, I realized, is when you're in a world like we're in, you have people who set up trips. And I've been doing this for years. It's a team. I have a team of people. But what that leads to is then you're no longer able to function as a normal human being without the team. Without the team.

[Jase Robertson]

Y.

[Phil Robertson]

You just can't do it.

[Zach Dasher]

But you became a victim of your own success, I guess.

[Phil Robertson]

Yeah, I mean, it's. I said, this is embarrassing. Yeah, it is literally embarrassing because Missy said, well, I think we'll just drive over. It's just Dallas, because we go there all the time, you know, because in.

[Jase Robertson]

The old days, you would just get in your car and drive Dallas and do something.

[Phil Robertson]

A normal human being in their 50s would be able to pull that off.

[Jase Robertson]

And that's. Most normal people can do that, just so you know.

[Phil Robertson]

I mean, luckily my marriage is in a good place. They just had a. At a marriage seminar yesterday. And I was like, I think we passed this test because everything that could go wrong went wrong. And it was. It was our own fault.

[Jase Robertson]

Yeah, I mean, because you weren't. You didn't have your little guide there to.

[Phil Robertson]

We. We. We took the wrong turns. We. We were supposed to be there. I think the festivities started at like three. So we did the math. Four hours over there, basically. But we were coming in the longer we got delayed and took wrong turns and all that. I mean, you drive on interstate and you get off. Doesn't seem like a hard thing, but it just.

[Jase Robertson]

Well, it doesn't go to Dallas.

[Phil Robertson]

She wanted to go to the hotel first because she didn't want to, because you have to get kind of spiffed up, which I don't.

[Jase Robertson]

Is there a red carpet involved in this?

[Phil Robertson]

Well, it's a teal carpet.

[Jase Robertson]

Deal carpet.

[Phil Robertson]

Yeah. I think the colors of the chosen is like teal because it's like a teal car. So we pulled up the show, according to the Note, started at 7 and so we got there early. 657 is when we pulled in.

[Zach Dasher]

So you missed the red carpet.

[Phil Robertson]

You are the not quite, you know, we got out, people didn't recognize me part. You're supposed to park. We got your tickets on your phone. It was. Got complicated since we'd have anybody doing this. Then we couldn't find the tickets. And finally somebody recognized me along the route to park. And so we just walked in like we own the place. Like outside is where the. The teal carpet was. And the time we get there and they got you kind of like cattle. You go through whatever your status is. You go through a certain corridor, but it's outside all you got fans around, people were recognized, which was good because I kept running into problem because we didn't have the credentials. And we wound up and the cast is taking the last picture on the teal carpet. And Dallas and Amanda, who we're friends with and we support them, they're up there taking the picture. So they're like, well, you know, it's pretty well over now. Did y'all want to take a picture with the cast? And Missy's like, no, we kind of just wanted to take a picture with our friends. And they're like, who are your friends? Like Dallas and Amanda Jenkins. They're like, well, you know, they pretty much run this thing. Yeah, we know. We just want one picture. So the guy, he goes over and I see him whispering in Dallas's ear because there's thousands of people out here. And I was like, this is a key moment here. Because he might just say no.

[Jase Robertson]

If he says no, then you're back to the banishment really.

[Phil Robertson]

Like, should we even. Should we be here? You know? But he looked up and said, okay, yeah, they're in. So that was the key move for what happens next. So we get up there, take a picture. Good to see you. I didn't know you all were going to be here. I mean, they didn't even know we were coming. Yeah, because.

[Jase Robertson]

Because you didn't have a team of people doing all people.

[Phil Robertson]

And, you know, with my parents and everything going on, we were a last minute declaration and that proved to be a problem. So they gave us these Little bracelets. Once we've been legitimized by the director of the show, they're now like, okay, we'll go ahead and give you some credential. You're supposed to be here. So I thought, okay, this is great. So we took the picture. Well, we. We're talking because now we're in the right corridor with the guy directing it and his wife and the cast. But we're moving as one. We're catching up with our friends. So we go into the theater. Well, there's multiple rooms in the theater. And so as we get to the security line, which is like five people, and they're not checking the credentials of the cast and the director because obviously everyone knows who they are. Well, they look at us and they're like, I look for a bracelet. Well, I've lost it.

[Jase Robertson]

Oh, boy.

[Phil Robertson]

In a five minute walk, I lost it.

[Jase Robertson]

A team of people couldn't have helped you with that. That's just stupid.

[Phil Robertson]

And so they said, where's your bracelet? Well, Missy did have hers on because it didn't match her dress.

[Jase Robertson]

Oh, gosh.

[Phil Robertson]

So now we don't have our bracelets. But they looked and they're like, well, where?

[Jase Robertson]

You kind of look like an extra, though.

[Phil Robertson]

So where are your credentials? And I said, right here. I pointed to Dallas Jenkins. I'm with him. Oh, okay. But he didn't even know we were coming.

[Jase Robertson]

Yeah.

[Phil Robertson]

So we get in the room and I start having this conversation with Peter from the show.

[Zach Dasher]

Not the real Peter.

[Jase Robertson]

Yeah, he's not really Peter.

[Phil Robertson]

Well, the guy who plays Peter. But in your mind.

[Zach Dasher]

Big distinction.

[Jase Robertson]

In your mind, though, I do this.

[Phil Robertson]

Thing in my speeches where I'm like, close your eyes and picture God. And most people see nothing or a big light or an old man with a gavel.

[Jase Robertson]

Yeah.

[Phil Robertson]

But here, recently, it's been the guy from the Chosen. So in your mind, you know, it. It does something to you because I'm like, I'm talking to Peter here, but Peter, I thought he speaks English on the show because Missy whispered in mirror. I don't think he speaks English because everything I said, he was just bewildered. And Missy said, does he speak English? And Dallas said, I don't think he speaks Jason as a.

[Jase Robertson]

So there's a difference.

[Zach Dasher]

He speaks the Queen's English.

[Phil Robertson]

He basically was asking me, what are you doing here? And I was like, I'm friends with Dallas, you know, he's like, what do you do? I was like, we do a show. We had a show. It's called Duck Dynasty. But he was like, duck. I was like, you know, duck calls. And I was trying to take him through the process, but where's he from?

[Jase Robertson]

Do you know?

[Phil Robertson]

I don't know. But we didn't connect.

[Jase Robertson]

Yeah.

[Phil Robertson]

He was like, yeah, yeah, I'll check that out.

[Jase Robertson]

But he's telling his wife, that night, this weirdo was there with the other guy.

[Phil Robertson]

Well, I'll tell you that story, because what I'm fixing to tell you, everything will make sense. So in this.

[Jase Robertson]

None of this makes.

[Phil Robertson]

In this room, everyone's name is on a seat. So just imagine a movie theater. You go in there, your name is.

[Jase Robertson]

On the seat, but they don't know you're coming.

[Phil Robertson]

Well, obviously not, because we start walking down the aisles, kind of looking for our name, and guess what? That's. The name is not there. So at some point, they're like, we're ready to start. I mean, Dallas is fixed to give a speech. We're still looking. I was like, where's my seat? There's no seat. So the right hand man, the seats right next to Dallas and Amanda, he gets up and realized that we need some help. And he's like, well, let me look at your tickets. Well, we finally found the tickets at this point, and we're already in. And he's like, I hate to tell you this, but you're in the wrong room. Which makes perfect sense. This is the cast and crew. And he's like, but the good news is, I'm going to let you have our seats. Him and his wife.

[Jase Robertson]

Wow.

[Zach Dasher]

What a servant acting like Jesus.

[Phil Robertson]

And so I look at Missy.

[Zach Dasher]

What better place to act like Jesus?

[Phil Robertson]

I look at Missy, and she's gone. Ezekiel 1 For you Bible nerds. Her face was glowing, a red tint.

[Jase Robertson]

She looked at Maddie.

[Phil Robertson]

She was so embarrassed. I mean, she was like, no, we're not sitting in your seat. It's like, we don't have time to go find your. Your theater. It's fine. So they got up, and I saw them later, like, someone brought a chair in for him because his wife had a seat. Yeah, Steve's over here sitting in a chair. I'm sitting at the right hand of the guy putting this on.

[Jase Robertson]

There's got to be a Bible lesson in that, right? So, Jason, our podcast is called Unashamed, but, you know, we could have called it Pure Talk, because that's a good point. We do a lot of talking here on this podcast. Everywhere I go, they say, is Jace ever going to run out of stories? And I'm like, no, he loves Pure Talk.

[Phil Robertson]

I do.

[Jase Robertson]

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[Phil Robertson]

Yeah, you know like when the Bible talks about when you go to a place and you shouldn't go sit down front, don't sit in the places of life.

[Jase Robertson]

It's happened to me before.

[Phil Robertson]

It was just you get ushered to the back.

[Zach Dasher]

That's good for you though. There's the old Francis Schaefer, he who if you've listened to this podcast or the other one that I do, you know, I love Francis Schaefer. So he, but he was an odd looking guy. You know, he had like the back in the 70s, had the big goatee and the scraggly hair and.

[Jase Robertson]

But he was one kind of working our look before.

[Zach Dasher]

Yeah, before it was cool. But he was probably one of the most prolific theologians of, of you know, the late 70s, early 80s. Very well known and very well respected his work. I mean very influential in the church and he comes over here to do an event at a church that also had a homeless ministry. And so when he showed up, they thought he was homeless and so they had a cot. He actually stayed the night on a cot in the homeless shelter and he was the keynote speaker for the event the next day.

[Phil Robertson]

That's Basically what happened to me.

[Zach Dasher]

You know what? He wrote a book after that. I think he wrote a book after that called no Little People. I thought that was pretty good. Pretty good title.

[Phil Robertson]

But you know what was fascinating? Of course, we watched it. Season five, the first two episodes. Fantastic as the story has gotten bigger. So as the production, it was exhausting just watching.

[Zach Dasher]

So where are we at? Where are you at in the story? Where is season Passion Week? I mean, how many seasons are there total?

[Jase Robertson]

I think it's gonna be seven.

[Phil Robertson]

There's gonna be seven.

[Zach Dasher]

So this is the Passion Week. This would be a big one.

[Phil Robertson]

This was, you know, the. At the Supper. The Last Supper is kind of the launching point.

[Jase Robertson]

Yeah.

[Phil Robertson]

And I was like, asking these questions. Of course I shouldn't have been. But I was like, man, how many people did it take? And he's like, well, there was like 13,000 extras. 13,000, that's.

[Zach Dasher]

Wow.

[Phil Robertson]

And you know what I found fascinating? Because, I mean, I'm like, well, it was embarrassing that we're here. Maybe God worked this out, or we're just idiots. Or maybe a combination. Or maybe a combination of both. Because I was. That guy couldn't help but ask these questions. And I was like. Because it was moving right off the bat, there's this huge scene. I'm like, how did you even do that? He said, we actually had to stop because everyone got moved just by the overall scene of what we're doing. He said, everybody. The extras, the cast. He said, even me. And he's like, I couldn't focus on doing this. So I thought it was spectacular, which.

[Jase Robertson]

I have a feeling that's going to happen more as they go forward.

[Zach Dasher]

Does it go through the crucifixion of Jesus or up to the crucifixion, but not the actual.

[Phil Robertson]

I don't know that.

[Jase Robertson]

I never said. But I'm assuming it's going to go all the way there.

[Phil Robertson]

Yeah, I didn't ask that question and. But I know this. That was good. So it comes out in theaters March 28th.

[Jase Robertson]

Yeah. Which is a couple of days from when this. After this comes out.

[Phil Robertson]

Yeah. And eventually, you know, it comes out on Amazon Prime. But I'm telling. You're not going to want to wait for that. I mean, it was fan tastic. So.

[Jase Robertson]

And every time they do one of these, which is a blessing, it winds up being one of the top draws usually that, you know, in all of movies, which is great. I'm just kind of making a statement.

[Phil Robertson]

Well, there's good and then there's that. So it was. It was fantastic. But here's what I noticed. Here was the learning lesson in this. Just the fact that we were where we didn't belong. All of a sudden, from that point on, everybody thought, we must have something to do with this, because it. So they had an after party at the hotel. We were staying at the hotel where the after party happen.

[Jase Robertson]

But you didn't know.

[Phil Robertson]

I mean, I was like, this is the craziest thing. So here we are now we're back at the hotel, and it's like, same people come right in.

[Zach Dasher]

You got upgraded the first class.

[Phil Robertson]

And so then people were like, we really love what y'all did. This. This. This season. Awesome. And I'm looking around behind me. They're. Because I was telling you this. Oh, they're telling me this. At first it's like, look, I had nothing to do with it.

[Zach Dasher]

But then eventually. Eventually you were like, yeah, we worked hard on it.

[Phil Robertson]

At some point I just said, yeah, look, we worked hard. You know, it's a team together.

[Zach Dasher]

Dallas called me and I told him, I said, we got to have more.

[Jase Robertson]

Yeah, like you're a consultant now.

[Phil Robertson]

It's one of the weirdest things that's ever happened in my life. I mean, it was embarrassing, but then it was like, okay, you're. And so then I'm talking to all the writers.

[Jase Robertson]

We so wish Missy were on this episode right now, because she probably has a whole.

[Zach Dasher]

Probably blame you for.

[Jase Robertson]

Yeah, exactly.

[Zach Dasher]

The debacle. Did she say, you should have had your ducks in a rug?

[Phil Robertson]

She blamed us.

[Zach Dasher]

She took responsibility.

[Phil Robertson]

She said, I just. We. Are we this bad? I mean, we. We made fun of Tim Tebow because she gave him some recommendations for his playlist of Worship Music. And he said, yeah, I'll get my guy on that. And she's like, you have a guy who puts the playlist on your playlist. Which is my point. You get into this bizarro world, it's a good problem, but it. It's embarrassing. And, yeah, we were embarrassed, but.

[Zach Dasher]

Do you have a guy?

[Jase Robertson]

No, I don't have a guy. In fact, now after hearing all this, I'm glad I don't have a guy. I'm glad I just do my own thing.

[Zach Dasher]

I did the old fashioned crazy, like, if I want to go somewhere.

[Jase Robertson]

But you have a guy. What are you talking about?

[Zach Dasher]

Who?

[Jase Robertson]

Brad?

[Zach Dasher]

Well, sort of. I mean, he's.

[Jase Robertson]

I mean, he's a guy.

[Zach Dasher]

But I booked my. Like, if I. If I need to go. If I need to drive to Dallas, I can I can figure that out. Yeah.

[Jase Robertson]

I mean, well, this is where you wind up.

[Zach Dasher]

That's what I'm scared of.

[Phil Robertson]

So it worked out. But the after part. Look, the first group of people, when I walked in there was a bunch of nuns. And I was like, I've never been. I've only been to a handful of after parties. I figured, jesus and the Chosen, I'll do it. And it wasn't like the party you think, you know, it was. It was more like a change the water to wine party here, you know, it was. It was good. There was nuns there.

[Zach Dasher]

Yeah.

[Phil Robertson]

And so. Yeah.

[Zach Dasher]

You sent a picture of that.

[Phil Robertson]

I sent a picture because this. The first person who greeted us was a nun. And they got invited. I think they are help. Sponsoring with the. The hallowed thing.

[Zach Dasher]

Yeah. The Halloween.

[Phil Robertson]

Oh, yeah. Because he's big.

[Jase Robertson]

Roomy is big.

[Phil Robertson]

Exactly. I think that's where that came from. So we meet this nun, and she's like, oh, I'm a. I'm a film and tv. What do you call them? They. They like, watch something and say, Critic. Yeah, critic. Yeah. I was like, really?

[Zach Dasher]

He's a critic. Like Cisco. What was it?

[Jase Robertson]

Cisco and Ebert.

[Phil Robertson]

And so Missy said, well, what do you. What do you think about the show Duck Dynasty? And she said, I love that show. She said, those people, you know. And she went on, yeah. Missy said, we are those people. She's like, you're one of those people. I'm not sure I like your tone in that. And she said, well, can I have a picture? I was like, on one condition. And she just snapped her head up. I was like, I want to take a picture with you because I've never been to a party with a nun, so we need to document that. So we traded.

[Jase Robertson]

And she had never been to a party with a Doug Dynasty person.

[Phil Robertson]

Yeah. But she had watched the show and loved it.

[Jase Robertson]

Maybe you just got a good review for the new revival show coming up. You may be paving the way, Willie Manning, to send you out as a publicist now that you've had to do your own media.

[Phil Robertson]

I really love that woman. She was funny. She just. She loved the look. Just bubbly.

[Jase Robertson]

Yeah.

[Phil Robertson]

You know, and she had watched our show. I wonder what, you know, her first impression was. But she agreed to love it. So.

[Jase Robertson]

Ye.

[Phil Robertson]

There you go. You know, you look up one day, you try to drive to Dallas. Next thing you know, you're partying with a bunch of nuns, and you're in a place where you really shouldn't have been, which was embarrassing.

[Zach Dasher]

It could have been in worse places than partying with nuns.

[Jase Robertson]

Yeah. You know, that's where you wound up.

[Phil Robertson]

Yeah. So what's funny is after it was all over, you know, I sent Dallas a nice little. That was fantastic. You know, I was like, man, I got a good podcast story. You know, and he's like, what story are you talking about? He never realized that it was all a mix up. No, I shouldn't. I mean, he never even thought, I wonder why they put the duck guy. I'm sure somewhere in a meeting right now of the chosen. They're like, who let the duck in the cast and crew enter sanctuary?

[Jase Robertson]

But, you know, he. Dallas came on our podcast the first season, like when they were just promoted. It just. It had just happened.

[Zach Dasher]

Yeah.

[Jase Robertson]

The first time he came on. So he probably knows Jason.

[Phil Robertson]

We're come a long way.

[Jase Robertson]

Yeah, we're probably. We're good promoters of his show, which is amazing. And I love this Hallow thing that all the advertising. Wahlberg's on there. Chris Pratt now. I like that people are recognized. Hollywood stars are talking about prayer and God. I mean, that's a. That's a major positive for me. So I love what they're doing. I think it's awesome.

[Phil Robertson]

Well, it made me think, just them showing kind of the recap and. And I guess the future episodes. But my wife's favorite episode is season two, episode one. We actually watched it last night because, you know, I had watched it a couple times. She's watched it dozens.

[Jase Robertson]

Yeah.

[Phil Robertson]

And of course she cried at the end. I mean, just. I was like, babe, I thought you've seen this like three dozen times. She's like, oh, I cry every time. But it's fascinating from where we're studying in the Book of John, because. And what I like about their show is they follow the Bible, but they make it about Jesus. I mean, it's called the Chosen. So you're getting Jesus from the perspective.

[Jase Robertson]

Of the people around him.

[Phil Robertson]

Yeah.

[Jase Robertson]

Of the 12, which I've always thought was a fascinating concept.

[Phil Robertson]

Yeah. And like we do in any kind of. When you read this stuff, is that.

[Jase Robertson]

Not what we do? We're trying to look at Jesus through our lens of being in the 21st century. I mean, that's what we do.

[Zach Dasher]

So.

[Jase Robertson]

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[Phil Robertson]

I have no idea what you're talking about.

[Jase Robertson]

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[Phil Robertson]

So season two, episode one. The reason I wanted to bring it up is because what they did was it starts off with John. It's like at a future date. And they come at the date of Jesus has died, been buried and raised, and he's gone. And now John's kind of interviewing all the followers because obviously he's fixed to write a letter about it or write a book about it. And so it starts there, but then when it gets to the scene, it starts off with John and what they call Big James on there. They're plowing a field and they're. They're thinking, oh, we're the. We're the special one. You know, Jesus has chosen this. This special moment. Now, this is not in the Bible, but the story that they told kind of links what happens in John 4. And turns out, of course, if you haven't seen season two, I'm not spoiling it. You should have watched that years ago. But catch up. What, what they did, they took a couple of stories and brought them together.

[Jase Robertson]

Yeah.

[Phil Robertson]

Which is they were actually plowing that field for the guy who owned the field, who was one of the guys who attacked the guy that. It's the Story of the Good Samaritan in Luke 10. And so one of the guys who attacked the. Who was walking down the road. I have to go over there and.

[Zach Dasher]

Look in Luke 10.

[Phil Robertson]

Yeah, Luke 10. All right. In Luke 10, 25. Yeah. Let me just read you this story. So, I mean, I have a point. When you get here, it's like, oh, that's good. On one occasion, an expert in the law stood up to test Jesus. And he asked, what must I do to inherit eternal life, which a lot of the Book of John has been about. What is written in the law? He replied, how do you read it? He answered, love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your strength, with all your soul, with all your mind, and love your neighbor as yourself. You've answered correctly, do this and you'll live. But he wanted to justify himself, so he asked Jesus, well, who is my neighbor? In reply. So he tells this story. A man was going down from Jerusalem to Jericho when he fell into the hands of robbers. They stripped him of his clothes, beat him and went away, leaving him half dead. A priest happened to be going down the same road, and when he saw the man, he. He passed by on the other side. So too a Levite, when he came to the place and saw him pass by on the other side. But a Samaritan, as he traveled, came where the man was, and he saw him. He took pity on him. He went to him and bandaged his wound, pouring on oil and wine. Then he put the man on his own donkey, took him to an inn, took care of him. The next day he took out two silver coins and gave them to the innkeeper. Look after him, he said, and when I return, I will reimburse you for any extra expense you may have. Which of these do you think was a neighbor to the man who fell into the hands of robbers? The expert in the law replied, the one who had mercy on him. Jesus said, go and do likewise. So from the Chosen's perspective, they took one of the guys, either the priest, the Levite, or whatever, and that's where this guy lived. He had beaten this guy and lived to tell about it. But somewhere in there had developed some kind of leg injury, and he barely could walk. He didn't have any money. And so Jesus went there. And the whole reason John and James were doing the tilling and all was a garden so he could support himself. And so it's cool that you think, well, why are they doing this? Because he was showing his disciples, because the Jews and the Samaritans didn't get along. We learned that in John 4, Samaritan woman. They're all like, wait a minute, this guy, he's a thug. Well, in the episode he basically confesses his sins to Jesus and is like, I was one of the guys that beat this up. Now I'm suffering the consequences of that. So he winds up healing the guy. And meanwhile you have the other story of the Samaritan Woman who's out there being the spokesman for Jesus. So he was basically showing them, look, I came here to bring all people together, which it's really moving. And when you get to the end of the episode where John starts writing, he goes back to the. In the beginning, you know, was the word. The word was with God. I mean, it's a fantastic episode. But the main theme of it was their time take on breaking down these walls that divide us, whether culturally or where you're from, the hatred between us. You know, Jesus came for everybody.

[Jase Robertson]

So I thought it was the same setup, Zach, as the. The movie, the Apostle Paul. The guy that directed our movie. Right. Andrew. It used with that where Paul is being interviewed by Luke.

[Zach Dasher]

Yep.

[Jase Robertson]

You know, to be able to write acts and the same thing where you're looking back and seeing the. As you come forward. Which is just a great filmmaking.

[Zach Dasher]

Andrew loves to do that.

[Jase Robertson]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's very powerful way to do it.

[Zach Dasher]

We're actually doing another film with Andrew.

[Jase Robertson]

Are you ready to announce anything?

[Zach Dasher]

Yeah, well, it's prep. The press has been released. But you know, Randy Travis, the country music singer. We're doing his story.

[Phil Robertson]

Really?

[Zach Dasher]

Yeah. So Andrew's gonna direct it and he's writing the script right now.

[Jase Robertson]

Oh, that's awesome.

[Zach Dasher]

But I loved it. I love the technique though of going back.

[Jase Robertson]

Yeah.

[Zach Dasher]

And then referencing that through which we.

[Jase Robertson]

Did the blind the same way.

[Zach Dasher]

But I think that it's interesting that showing how these cultures are coming together, I mean that's such a big part of the Old Testament that's kind of missed that you don't see until you get to the New Testament. I was thinking Luke 24, on the road to Emmaus, when Jesus had been resurrected. And he sees the disciples, two of the disciples and their just distraught over, you know, what happened. And he's like, hey, what are you guys talking about? And they're like, are you the only guy who does not know what's happened the last three days? And they say this weird thing that's so weird if you don't catch it. But they said that this guy named Jesus essentially was that we'd hoped would be the hope of Israel. But he's dead. He's been dead for three days. But she wasn't dead. But they thought he was dead. But in their mind, he was going to be the hope of Israel. But if you read through the rest of the discourse, what he's telling them is that the Messiah is going to be the Messiah for all the nations, not just Israel. That would be. Everybody would be included in. Samaritans, Gentiles, everybody was going to be included in. And you don't really. You see it in the Old Testament when you go back and read it through the lens of Jesus, but they didn't understand that until he opened their eyes to the Scriptures. So I think it's beautiful. Like, there was a philosopher named Kierkegaard that said we live life forward like we're living it forward, but we interpret it by looking back. Hindsight's 20 20. And so you look at your life, you don't fully understand what's going on and why you. Like when you first got married, for example, I don't know. When I married Jill, I had no clue what I was getting into.

[Phil Robertson]

No. Well, I thought I did.

[Zach Dasher]

You thought you did.

[Phil Robertson]

Yeah.

[Zach Dasher]

Yeah. And then you look back at, I've been married almost 25 years now, and I'm like, I understand it a whole lot more now, looking back on it. And I think that that is also how the scripture is laid out as well, that we live it forward, but we really can't understand it forward. We understand by looking back and you see this beautiful story that just is almost like seamless, and it expands the bigness of what Jesus accomplished. It is about my own personal salvation and my own personal liberation from sin and a hope of eternal life even beyond this world. But there's also a big, huge collective salvation that Christ, he accomplished on the cross.

[Jase Robertson]

Well, plus, you think about the amount of time we're talking about here. So the Samaritan situation that's being referenced here in these two cases, this has been going on in Jesus time frame for 700 in 50 years. I mean, think about. Our country is not even 300 years old. We think man way back in the revolutionary days, well, double that. And that's when this Samaria issue came in. They were hauled off into slavery. When they came back, they were repopulated. They were all this gentile influence. And so they had been disregarded for 750 years.

[Zach Dasher]

Yeah.

[Jase Robertson]

And so when Jesus comes in and start telling these stories, everybody's like, what I mean, like, this has been a long period of time.

[Phil Robertson]

Well, I found it fascinating when I read N.T. wright's commentary on John. Of course, he got into the geography of it. And that's what led me to this Luke 10. Because when he started that story, when he said in reply, a man was going down from Jerusalem to Jericho, well, I didn't realize they did that to avoid going through Samaria.

[Jase Robertson]

Right.

[Phil Robertson]

And so he tells the story. Well, unless you kind of know the geography, you don't get what he's saying. And the Hebrew hero of the story was the Samaritan who came and helped the guy who had been robbed and saved his life.

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[Phil Robertson]

So that's why when you get to John 4, they didn't take the Jerusalem to Jericho. They went through Samaria. And then his disciples were so shocked. What in the world are you doing in the middle of the day talking to a Samaritan woman? Because it says that in John 4 they don't associate. And not only a woman. This woman's got a shady, shady past. Here and you're alone. I mean, he broke so many.

[Jase Robertson]

We talked to all the taboos that he broke.

[Phil Robertson]

Right, exactly. Well, when I read this, I'll go over and read that Luke 10, which I thought was fascinating about how Jesus tells those stories, which is why I was bringing up the chosen. They were making the same illustration. It's like even the guys in the story of Jesus, Jesus's story, he wants them too. You know, there's a love for your neighbor. Who is my neighbor? Well, and that's why, you know, the Pharisees and the scribes who watch, because there are modern day Pharisees who watch the chosen. They're like, well, that story is not in the Bible. But the principle was the same. Not only was he for Samaritans, he was for the people who tried to kill this guy. I mean, he offers forgiveness to everybody, which is why, I don't know, it's really moving to watch. But when I read the first part of Luke 10, you know, that, that story he tells, who is my neighbor, that whole story came from there, which you see John 4, a similar instance where she became basically an evangelist, a missionary, you know, for Jesus. Yeah, you couldn't have worse credentials to, or criteria to bring before the Lord. As far as somebody you would think, oh, here's your missionary, you know, this woman you met at the well. And they really do a good job on the, on the Chosen, of showing her, her character and all. I mean, it's like you're like, oh my goodness, this woman's a piece of work. I mean, that comes across there. But once she went all in for Jesus, there's something you start liking about her. All her quirks all of a sudden seem like, oh, she's a piece of work, you know, in a good way now. But I thought about this Luke 10 and this is going to tie in to where we are in John 4, because even though the king. I was surprised at how few times the kingdom is mentioned in the book of John. I mean, it's mentioned in the gospels a lot. I think it was like 77, especially in Matthew. Yeah, yeah. But he had just said when it is mentioned in John, it's very profound because you Remember in John 3 where it said you can't see it or enter it. He told Nicodemus the kingdom unless you're born again. And then he's like born of the spirit. He was introducing this idea of that. And so then I think John 4, really, with what he's doing there, he's introducing the Kingdom in action. This is what the kingdom is going to look like. And part of this is going to people that you wouldn't have gone to before. So in the same chapter of that story about the Good Samaritan, which I find fascinating, and you read the same commentary I did with NT Wright, he made a big deal about now, you know, when you think about how Samaritan is used, it's a positive thing.

[Jase Robertson]

Right.

[Phil Robertson]

I think about the Samaritan's purse. I don't know if there's other ministries because they focus on that.

[Zach Dasher]

There's a healthcare ministry.

[Jase Robertson]

Yeah.

[Phil Robertson]

But back in this day, when you mentioned the word Samaritan, oh, that was the worst thing on the planet.

[Zach Dasher]

And when you mentioned the word Pharisee, that was a good thing. We interpret that backwards now. Like, that's horrible. But if you were a Pharisee in the day of Jesus, that was a place of prestige and which, by the.

[Jase Robertson]

Way, same time frame, almost 600 years, that had been a positive from Daniel all the way down.

[Zach Dasher]

Yeah. When Jesus says, you Pharisees, you brood of vipers, the brood of vipers is the insult. The Pharisees is the identification of who he's talking to. Now we say you Pharisee and that we associate it with brood of vipers. But think about those days, man.

[Jase Robertson]

That was like just the opposite.

[Zach Dasher]

Those are the gurus, those were the religious.

[Jase Robertson]

You wanted that guy on your team.

[Phil Robertson]

Well, it's like, I think the Sermon on the Mount sent the Pharisees because he says, unless your righteousness surpass those of the. What does he say? The Pharisees and the scribes, the teachers of the law.

[Jase Robertson]

Right.

[Phil Robertson]

So. And you're like, well, what was his point? Because they kind of looked at everything from a legal standpoint. It's like, well, we haven't killed anybody, you know, but then. So Jesus in that Sermon on the Mount is like, yeah, but did you want to. Because it got to the heart.

[Jase Robertson]

Yeah.

[Phil Robertson]

Which is really. Which is what he's after.

[Jase Robertson]

Well, they had written 24 volumes of material on the Sabbath. Not pages, volumes.

[Zach Dasher]

They didn't want to yield their heart. Which I think is the main point of the text in John 4 is. And I just did, actually, I just did this this week. So this is like hits home because, you know, we, when the storm hit North Carolina, we didn't have water for eight weeks. Like it washed out 20 something miles of pipes that brought water into Asheville area. So nobody had water. And we had a swimming pool full of water. But obviously you Couldn't drink it because it was, like, disgusting. But we would go out there every day and we'd fill up five gallon buckets of that water and then we'd use that to flush the toilet. We'd use it to. We'd have to boil it. And it was like. I mean, it was a process. I mean, it was like. But we had to keep going back to the source and go through this whole process of making this water where we could actually live off of it. Well, I decided, like, as soon as I. When the storm was over and everybody was back at it, I said, you know, what's never going to happen to me again?

[Jase Robertson]

Somebody's digging a well.

[Zach Dasher]

I'm digging a well. And so I got a permit, Zach's will. I live in the middle of town. And everybody's like, what are you doing? Like, I mean, like, I'm getting phone calls. What's that big rig I got? I mean, I got a huge rig in my yard. We're digging a well. So I dug a well this week and. And I'm not ever going to be without water again. I'm building a generator too, but they don't catch me. But. But this is like the setting here in John 4, because the girl, the Samaritan woman, she has to go to this place to get water all the time. And you just imagine how exhausting that is to go, fill up and then it gets low, go back, fill up, it gets low throughout the week. It's a continual thing. So the question about where do we worship? Is not disassociated with where she's at. That's right, because what she's saying is, where do we worship is? Where's the spiritual well that I go to get filled up for you guys? It's in Jerusalem at the temple, we Samaritans. Our spiritual well is up there on the mountain. So, Jesus, where is the real spiritual well to get filled up? And so the call here is that he says, if anyone drinks the water that I give him will never be thirsty again. The water I will give him will become. So his progressive language will become in him a well, a spring of water welling up to eternal life. And so I think about that as almost like the big picture of what God's doing in John 4. It is all kinds of people. But even more than that, he's saving all kinds of people. But now worship is going to actually take place in the inner part of your soul, and that will be the source of life. It'll never run Dry. He's got a living human beings now.

[Phil Robertson]

That's why I think it's important that when it says she let. John made a point of saying in verse 28, she left her water jar and went back.

[Jase Robertson]

Yeah.

[Phil Robertson]

You know, because you think all the work, you do it every time. I mean, it's like it's why she.

[Jase Robertson]

Came there, but not really.

[Phil Robertson]

She had found something so much greater. Yeah. That. That temporary thing that you always gripe about was irrelevant, which is the point.

[Zach Dasher]

Of the Book of Hebrews. If you think about the Hebrew writers making the case that you got to keep going back between the holy of holies year after year, the priest has got to atone for the sins of the people year after year. But not with Jesus. One sacrifice for all time.

[Jase Robertson]

You know, it's funny, is the house we lived at before where we are now, when we were building that house, we were the first people. Mac Owen owned the land out there, and we were the first people that built. So there was a road that was built that would lead to other houses. So since we were the first ones, we got to name the road. So we were thinking of all the different names to name it. One day the bulldozer was back there moving around some earth, and he came across a spring. And when he rolled over the top of it, I mean, it looked like a geyser. When I just happened to be watching it when this happened, and, I mean, water shot up like 40ft in the air, you know, And I was like, wow, look at that. And then it hit me, this story. And I thought, I know we're naming the road Wellspring Road. But it wasn't just the water reminded me. But I thought we're here as a spiritual.

[Zach Dasher]

Would you rather named it Oilspring Road?

[Jase Robertson]

Well, if I would have been Texas Tea, you know. But the Beverly Hillbillies came later. We moved in the neighborhood. But when I saw that, I thought, we're the wellspring of life. And so from that point forward, everything about us living in that place was, we have to be Christ here. And so I felt like we were then his missionaries doing what he called us to do by his spirit. And so it's just that same reminder, seeing that. And to this day, it's still Wellspring. We're long gone. We hadn't been there in 15 years, but still wellspring. Rup.

[Phil Robertson]

I wanted to finish my point about the kingdom. So in Luke 10, when it starts, because we've already talked about this, where we got to with this Guy who answered right, by the way, this teacher of the law, when he said, love the Lord your God with all your heart, soul, strength and mind, he actually.

[Jase Robertson]

Condensed it into the Right, right, yeah.

[Phil Robertson]

But Jesus, kind of like he did on the Sermon on the Mount, said, well, you know, well, who's your neighbor? Me. But because then when he heard a Samaritan like, well, wait a minute. Yeah, I mean, that was the point.

[Jase Robertson]

And. And the rich young ruler, I thought about him here too. Remember? He answered, right, exactly, but not really.

[Zach Dasher]

He kept all the commandments.

[Jase Robertson]

He kept all the commandments, but he forgot about the give everything.

[Phil Robertson]

So that's why I was bringing this up about that episode when Jesus sent out the 70. When he said in Luke 10, it said, after this, the Lord appointed. And some translations say 72 because they took two of the original table of nations and broke them in half. But it'll say or 70. And the reason I'm making a point about this is we're going back to the table of nations. At the Tower of Babel, there were 70 nations listed. I just don't think that's a coincidence that here now, because we all know how that went terribly, you know, and that's why God chose a specific nation.

[Jase Robertson]

By the way, There was also 70 people that wound up escaping Israel to go to Egypt. That started the people there.

[Phil Robertson]

So now granted, you got to be a little bit of a Bible nerd to get this, but that was part of the rebellions in the beginning, that all the nations were divided. That's. And that's why the Jews hate the Samaritans so much. There's a div. Among people that we still see it in modern day America, you know, And I mean, it's just what humans do. We like our little camps, and in some camps we hate other camps of people. And here's Jesus trying to bring everybody together. You get back to the Acts 2, where they all hear the one language from. From a group of men, despite them speaking different languages. Because God is. One of the themes in this whole book is he's making everything that went wrong. Right. It just took a few hundred years to do it. And I think this is a shadow here. But I want to. There's something I had missed here that I think is very powerful. In Luke 10, in Luke 10, watch how this goes. He sends out the 70 others and sent them two by two ahead of him to every town and place where he was about to go. And he told them, the harvest is plentiful, but the workers are Few. And I came here because that's going to say the same thing in John 4. We're fixing to read it.

[Jase Robertson]

He does.

[Phil Robertson]

And so ask the Lord of the harvest, therefore to send out workers into his harvest field. Go, and I'm sending you like lambs among wolves. Do not take a purse, a bag or sandals. And do not greet anyone on the road. When you you enter a house, first say peace to this house. If a man of peace is there, your peace will rest on him. If not, it will return to you. Stay in that house eating and drinking whatever they give you for the workers deserves his wages. Do not move around from house to house. So he's like, send them out as missionaries. When you enter a town and are welcome, eat what is set before you, heal the sick. So he's given them this ability and this power who are there, and tell them, but watch what he told them to tell. The kingdom of God is among you. So then watch when you enter a town and are not welcome, go into its streets and say, even the dust of your town that sticks to our feet, we wipe off against you. Yet be sure of this, the kingdom of God is at hand. I tell you, it will be more bearable in that day for Sodom than for that town. So whether they embrace you or whether they don't, he said, you have the same message, the kingdom has come to you. And so it made me think the reason when he had that conversation with Nicodemus, and then he uses the same phraseology with the Samaritan woman about, you know, the harvest is plentiful. And I mean, basically you see the kingdom in action here, the king, when you think, what is the kingdom? Well, it's where the king reigns. But I've always looked at that as a phrase, but it's literally it's action. And what does the king want to do? Well, he wants to bring all the nations back together because all the nations have people. And I made all the people. And it just made me look at that as more of an action. That Jesus here, he is limited in space because he became flesh. He's one man. He introduces this idea of the spirit coming and that being a prerequisite to entering and seeing the kingdom. So now here we are, fast forward, we go back to that. Acts 2. Jesus pours out his spirit as he's ascending to the right hand of God. And now through his spirit, you have thousands of Jesuses going around. And what would that be called? You're seeing the kingdom being among you, where the king reigns and it just, it made me. It kind of clicked for me. It's like when he's saying the harvest is plentiful. Oh, we need to go out there. Well, no, we just need to let Jesus reign in our heart and do what he does. We do Jesus stuff, which is bringing people together, which is, you know, recognizing people's problems and entering Jesus into that realm. So it kind of made me think. We always think about one on one, Bible studies and all. It's actually three. You're representing the fullness of Christ, which all the deity lives in bodily form and you have his spirit. So it's basically three on one. Every encounter, every conversation you have, but it's not really you. You're introducing where the king reigns. So that was the connection.

[Zach Dasher]

Which is why you think about the. If someone's not receptive, I tell our church this all the time. You don't have to manufacture some type of evangelistic effort. You really don't have to do that. And what will happen if you take that on is you'll spend a lot of time trying to chase people down. I don't really see that. It seems like this phrase, the harvest is never the problem. And I found that to be true as our ministry has been led by the Holy Spirit. But I've never found lacking. People who want to see a different life, people who want to taste the kingdom, I've never seen in my entire life. To the degree that the ministry I'm involved in is spirit led and spirit filled, I've seen the harvest be plentiful. The problem's always on the worker side because I want to contain it. I'd rather not be spirit filled. I'd rather just. I don't want to yield my life, but when I do yield my life, that the harvest comes and I think it's what you were talking about.

[Jase Robertson]

Well, and that seekers will find which is the key. It's like this died. I'm on. The one thing they said that's helped me the most about anything else is they said, don't focus on what you can't eat, focus on what you can eat. And that's a simple little saying. But you know what? It helps me a lot. And it's the same thing when it comes to the idea of helping people. There are people that are looking, there are people that are not. All we're doing is doing what spirit has led us to do. And that's to put, well, that's why.

[Phil Robertson]

Jesus said Matthew 6:33, Seek first his kingdom. Well, you're never going to stop doing that, right? Never. You're always going to seek first the kingdom because you have given your life to the king. So wherever you go, you have his spirit, which is why his disciples came up. And he basically does the same illustration he did with the Samaritan woman. Because they're like, hey, Rabbi, you need to get something to eat. And he's like. Because I know based on what all we've just said, like, you're missing. You're missing the big picture here. And because they were like, what's he doing with this woman? He's like, I have food to eat that you know nothing about. I feel the same way when I do events, because I don't. We don't travel well as Robertsons. And so I don't eat before I speak. But I'm always amazed at how people who put on the event are obsessed with getting me some food. And I'm like, no, I don't. You don't like our food? It becomes like, well, we. Let me take you a box.

[Jase Robertson]

We did this for you.

[Phil Robertson]

But I'm like, what I'm fixing to share is we're not worried about food right now. And it's the same thing. And so he launches into that speech about, my food is to do the will of him who sent me unto.

[Jase Robertson]

Finish his work, which he's also setting the stage. When we get to chapter six. All right, we're out of time. We come back, we'll pick it up there. Thanks for listening to the Unashamed podcast. Help us out by leaving a rating and review on Apple podcast. And don't miss an episode by subscribing on YouTube. And be sure to click the little bell and choose all notifications to watch every episode.