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I am unashamed. What about you?
Zach Dasher
Welcome back to the Unashamed podcast. We. We're. You would never know this audience, but we are a day late in recording.
Jase Robertson
Here we go.
Zach Dasher
Because. Because of Jason. Jason. Travel issues or. Or something. I don't know. We started getting tech Zach in. In the night.
Al Robertson
We didn't get. We didn't get tech. We got phone calls. We got like.
Jase Robertson
I'm like, you know what's weird about this? So I did an event west of Abilene, but I'll probably share that with our guests. Cause it may be I have a similar. I had a similar occurrence because I did this. It was like a jazz concert with young people and they were raising money for that. And you're like, why were you there? Which is what I was asking myself the first 10 minutes I was there. You know, it was literally a jazz concert. So they got all the rich people from around and they were raising money. And then it finally hit me. Oh, I can blow a duck call. I'm musical. And you're like, oh, that's a joke. No, that was it. That was it. And so they wanted me to talk about music and the similarities. Tell a few jokes. Of course it wound up be a Jesus sermon, but. And it was just a secular event. It wasn't like a Christian event. But we, we turned it into one. So.
Zach Dasher
Which is perfect because we've got a country music singer on the podcast today. So that worked out.
Jase Robertson
Yeah. So my daughter in law sends me a text, which is not a common occurrence because my wife was in Nashville. My daughter in law sends me a text that says, are you coming to Nashville for Resurrection Weekend? Well, you know, it just kind of hit me. I hadn't seen my grandkids in a while. My wife is there. I'M like, I thought the event was on Saturday, so I never contemplated going because the event was on Friday. And I thought, why don't I just surprise them? And so because I thought Missy would be coming back Sunday after the resurrection service, which by the way was at my son was leading worship and they had rented out the Ryman Theater in downtown Nashville. And I was like, what am I doing? I got to go to Nashville, you know, support my kids, my son's leading worship. And so I made the change. Nobody. I had to tell one person. So I called Reed because I was like, because I'm going to need a ride here, you know, at some point from the airport and all this kind of stuff.
Zach Dasher
So you're surprised And Missy.
Jase Robertson
Yeah, I'm surprised. And Missy and my daughter in law, Reid's wife and you know, my grandkid. I mean, so I kept the secret. And because Reid was practicing for the worship service, right? And the session, I mean it just every, the timing just all worked out. It was like right about the time my plane was landing, he was going to be just a few minutes away. I was like, I'll just get a Uber and meet you there. Which everything was, was working great. And so we go to his house and I thought Missy would be there, but she wasn't. She was at our, our farm. And so then when she wasn't there, I, because I had a prank in mind, here's what I was going to do. I was like, you go in and say you pitch, you picked up a hitchhiker in the neighborhood and you're going to fix him a meal and just see what they do. And I was like, then I'll come in a minute later and be like, ah, I'm the hitchhiker. So that was the plan.
Zach Dasher
And for a few fleeting seconds until they recognized who it was, they would believe the story.
Jase Robertson
Well, that was my thinking. Yeah, that was my thing. It'll be, ah, it'll be great. You know, we'll take pictures. It'll be good. Well, when Missy wasn't there, Ree was like, well, forget that idea. I was like, yeah, okay, you're right. So now I'm. We're no longer pranking because I just thought, what am I going, you know, prank my daughter in law? I mean it just kind of got weird. So, so I'm getting all my stuff. Well, he goes on in the house. This is actually better than we previously planned. Well, when I walked in, she had. Brighton Reed's wife had like followed him. Well, he didn't she didn't. You got to look at it from her perspective because I thought, the prank's over. But when I came in, she didn't realize someone was with him, obviously, because we had gone to the grocery store. You know, we had to do a bunch of errands because they were feeding a lot of their friends and a lot of the people who sang in the worship that night. Which then I realized I was wrong about when Missy was coming back because she was cooking. She cooked crawfish pies and he did a kind of a prime rib. And I was. So that's why then the problem with surprises is she wasn't coming back till Monday, in which we have podcasts and we had a guest coming on. So I was like, oh, can we move this to Tuesday? So anyway, I walk in and, well, she has her back to me and Reid's kind of grinning because he sees me. And then it hit me, I was like, oh, she doesn't know I'm here yet. So I just walked up and put my arm around her from the back, you know, just put her.
Phil Robertson
Put.
Jase Robertson
Put my arm around her shoulder when she looked at me. I'm going to try to imitate what she did. She went. It scared her so bad.
Al Robertson
So it wasn't like an emotional, like, I'm glad to see you. She was fearful. This is terror.
Zach Dasher
Terror.
Jase Robertson
It was terror to a degree that she started violently shaking even after she realized it was me. Well, then I was like, re was laughing. I was no longer laughing. I thought, are you okay? And she. No, I mean it scared. I was like, well, your husband was right here. I mean, it terrified her. And I apologized the rest of the weekend. And then. So then I was so distraught that we then talked about. She was asking me a lot of biblical questions. For three hours we were waiting for Missy to be there. And I was going to lay down on the couch and then when she came in, I was going to pop up. But we got so enthroned in this conversation because Reed fell asleep on the couch that Missy pulled in without either one of us knowing it. And she just walked in and.
Zach Dasher
And you're sitting there.
Jase Robertson
I'm just sitting there. And she's like, what are you doing here? So it was like, no surprise. So then I was like, no, no surprise happened. All I did basically with the surprise is terrorized my daughter in law. And then Missy was like, what are you doing here? Well, how are you going to do podcasts? You know, it was immediate into the smart person in the Room, which is logistics. So we have a logistical nightmare. So then I bumbled off and started making calls saying, what are the odds we can push this back a little bit? Which then. What's weird is our guest is from Nashville.
Zach Dasher
Yep.
Jase Robertson
I was in Nashville. And then we had to rearrange the whole schedule so we could come down to Louisiana and have a podcast. So that's on y'all. We should.
Al Robertson
Well, I do think we need to get a little Nashville situation set up there.
Jase Robertson
Let's do it.
Al Robertson
Because we. We're in Nashville a lot, me and you. Our kids are there.
Jase Robertson
Let me tell you this story. You're not gonna believe this, because when you go to Nashville, things happen.
Al Robertson
Things happen.
Jase Robertson
You're never gonna guess what happened on Sunday morning. All right. We go to the. The Easter service. You know, we're at the rhyming. I mean, it's. It's.
Al Robertson
You know, it was Instagram.
Jase Robertson
Everything was. So I go outside after the service. I was actually looking for a bathroom. And. And that because they wouldn't let me in. And look, it was complete facial profiling. So I terrorized not only my daughter in law, but the security guard, because I was like, I really need to go to the bathroom. He said, you're not coming in there. I was like, I was just in there, you know, because I walked out.
Zach Dasher
Yeah.
Jase Robertson
And then I was like, oh, I got to go to the bathroom. He's like, no. So I wound up bribing some company that hadn't opened next door to let me in. I was like. But I had to go get Missy. I was like, she's with me and this is an emergency. And so anyway, guess who I bumped into who went to the same service I did with a friend of my son's, which is weird. Guess who I bumped into just outside the Ryman on the sidewalk while I'm looking for a bathroom?
Al Robertson
Dave Ramsey.
Jase Robertson
No. Brock Purdy, the quarterback for the San Francisco 49ers. Remember I told the story weeks ago about one of his offensive linemen.
Zach Dasher
Yeah.
Jase Robertson
Meeting me at my house during his bye week. Coming in, Jesus. And it also from a. From a conversation that he heard Brock having with somebody else about he was ready for Jesus to come back, you know, and it convicted Colton. Let him. Him to me. And I was like, what in the world? He's like, small world. And so I'm glad we got to meet. So we took a pit. Missy. It was Missy's idea because somebody asked me that because I told my. Yeah, my son asked me. He's like, did you ask for the picture or did he? And I was like, no, he. Number one, he was way more popular than I was. While we were standing there chatting, him and his wife, he got like 10 picture requests. And I'm like, Because he looked, you know, you see these football players and all, but when you see them in real life, he just looked like a kid.
Zach Dasher
Yeah.
Jase Robertson
And he was about the same size as me. I'm like, how have you not just been destroyed? Because, you know, his offensive lineman, I mean, he could eat him.
Zach Dasher
Yeah.
Jase Robertson
I mean, he's just so huge. And I thought, man, it must be. You must have God's presence on you. You know, I didn't tell him because you look small to me. I didn't say that. I just said, you know, you're in a world where dangerous man. You know, but so we kind of caught up with that, and that was awesome.
Zach Dasher
Well, I guarantee you he didn't get. He could have went to the bathroom if he'd have wanted to.
Jase Robertson
So. Oh, they let him ride in and probably rolled out a red carpet.
Zach Dasher
So. All right, so we got, we got some, we got some guests coming on we're super excited about. So we're going to take a break and when we come back, we'll introduce our folks from Nashville that are on the podcast. So one of the things that people are realizing, especially with inflation and, you know, the economy's been a little bit rocky, is that personal debt is at an all time high. And I can relate to this because when I was in full time ministry especially, I mean, Lisa and I always struggle with debt, especially in our early years, we also had a premature baby. And so we just had these issues that, you know, continued to plague us throughout our early life. And so we understand that. And if you find yourself in a similar situation, you need Done With Debt. This is a group I wish I had known about back in the day. The credit system is rigged to keep you trapped. There's no doubt about that. And Done With Debt has a unique and brilliant escape strategy to help end your debt fast so you can keep more of your hard earned money. Done With Debt doesn't try to sell you a loan or bankruptcy. Their tough negotiators go one on one with your credit card and loan companies with one goal in mind. To drastically reduce your bills, eliminate interest, and erase penalties. Most clients end up with more money in their pocket month one. And they don't stop until they break you free from debt permanently. Look, take a few minutes and visit donewithdebt.com talk with one of their strategists. It's free. And listen up. Some of their solutions are time sensitive, so you'll need to move quickly. Go to donewithdat.com that's donewithdat.com. so, welcome back to Unashamed. We've got some special guests in the house. One is an old face. Well, he's not very old, but he's. He's been on our podcast for Christian Huff. Welcome back, Christian.
Christian Huff
Thank you. I don't know if you're introducing Jace or me.
Zach Dasher
No, we don't have to introduce. Trust me, he does plenty of introductions on his own.
Jase Robertson
I like how this is starting.
Al Robertson
A man who needs no introduction.
Zach Dasher
Exactly.
Christian Huff
Now, well, honored. Honored to be back on the podcast. And today I brought my good friend Connor Smith with me, who's a country music singer. And, yeah, he's in town to do the podcast. So we're excited to chat with you guys today. So thanks for having us on.
Zach Dasher
So, Connor, welcome to Unashamed Nation.
Phil Robertson
Happy to be here.
Jase Robertson
And he made us feel all at home because we're the only ones wearing camouflage. It's a really good start. Yeah.
Phil Robertson
This was the only sweatshirt I brought, so it just kind of worked out.
Jase Robertson
I like how you roll.
Phil Robertson
I think. I think it fits in for today.
Al Robertson
What's interesting, Jason, about Connor, I found this out this week. So this is a good connection with my son. Max is in Nashville, and he. He's playing music, too. He met, I think, your manager because he was playing at a place called the Duck Blind. Oh, wait, a place.
Phil Robertson
I'm making this connection. He met Jake. Is he in, like, a band with this girl?
Al Robertson
Yeah, my daughter. Yep.
Phil Robertson
Okay.
Al Robertson
They called my daughter.
Phil Robertson
Sorry, that was the only.
Al Robertson
Yes.
Jase Robertson
Hey.
Phil Robertson
They're incredible. They're incredible. So my. My. My manager, Jake, who's like, my best buddy, he's, you know, young kid like me, and he's at the Duck Blind one night, he starts sending me this videos of this band, and they're up there, and he's like. He's like, man, I talked to them after. They know all the Duck Dynasty crew, whatever. And me and Christian have been friends for two or three years now, and. And so he. He sends me all these videos. I'm like, this band's unbelievable. They're way too good to be playing in this Duck Blind, you know, midtown bar. And then he starts sending me all the. All their demos because they became buddies, and they're phenomenal. Like, they're real deal. Very, very Good.
Al Robertson
Well, thank you.
Jase Robertson
Well, they can actually sing. Like, when I saw that, I got. I had to familiarize myself with the country music world since I knew you were coming.
Phil Robertson
Okay.
Jase Robertson
We've had a. We've had a weird relationship through the years. I kind of, you know, had one moment when the Country Boy Can Survive came out. Okay.
Phil Robertson
I thought you're going to say country girl. Shake it for me. But you. I didn't know where you fit into the country genre.
Jase Robertson
You said a title that I'm really glad I'm not familiar with. Country Girl Shaker for me. No, I missed that one. But. Because I thought now country boy, because I never. You know, we were raised. My dad, he was kind of a. Well, how would you depict his music?
Zach Dasher
He was kind of a classic rock guy.
Al Robertson
Yeah, they like Queen and Foreigner, and.
Zach Dasher
Well, he's more ccr. Yeah.
Jase Robertson
Yeah. So it was a little. I mean, he liked Leonard Skynyrd, but Eagles. Yeah, but I heard you. You know, you. You had some outs with Alabama, but we can talk about that later.
Phil Robertson
Not the band, but the state.
Jase Robertson
Yeah, the state. Just the whole state.
Zach Dasher
Oh, that's my new favorite song. Just the School.
Al Robertson
I saw that and I thought, this is gonna be great.
Zach Dasher
My wife thought the same thing. I thought, I like this kid already.
Al Robertson
I'm gonna send that to Jill today.
Jase Robertson
You know what I found fascinating? I was researching you, and, I mean, that song immediately came up, and I thought, oh, we got some controversy here. I was like, I hate Alabama. I was like. He just went ahead and said it.
Phil Robertson
I swung the bat.
Jase Robertson
Yeah. And then. So what I found fascinating was all these people interviewing you, and you're like, no, it's not really about Alabama football. It's about your ex girlfriends or whatever. It's like. Then I looked at the words of the song, and I thought, looks like it's about Alabama football.
Phil Robertson
It's about both. Yeah, man. I mean, I'm a Tennessee guy, so I grew up, like, Tennessee. You know, my. My dad is the biggest Tennessee fan I know, and so grew up going to games every year in my entire life. I mean, I'm 24 now, so my entire life, I'd never seen Tennessee beat Alabama. And then we put out that song because it was kind of that funny little play on, you know, I hate Alabama because of football. Whenever. And I thought nobody outside of Tennessee would care. Like, it was the fourth song we ever put out. I was just like, let's put it out. It's fun. All my friends were up in Knoxville. I kind of My. My biggest dream was to hear that at a tailgate in Knoxville, going to a game. So we put that song out. You want to talk about the lowest timing? So 10. So Alabama hadn't lost in football in two years when we put out the song. And the next day, they're playing Texas A M. We put it on a Friday. The next day, they play Texas A M. They're number one in the country. Texas A and M's unranked at the game. Texas A M plays the song in the stadium.
Jase Robertson
Oh, my God.
Phil Robertson
Texas A and M goes on to beat Alabama.
Jase Robertson
That day, you brought down Alabama football.
Al Robertson
I brought it down.
Christian Huff
You're saying that was the Lord's timing?
Phil Robertson
It was the Lord's timing.
Al Robertson
Was Saban the coach then?
Phil Robertson
Yeah, Saban was the coach.
Al Robertson
That's why he quit.
Phil Robertson
Yeah, that's why he.
Al Robertson
That's why he quit.
Phil Robertson
No, I had heard that before, too, but no, I mean, this was 20. 20, 22. And so the next day, my life changed when there was a field goal that went through the uprights and Texas A and M beats Alabama. They stormed the field the next morning. It was. It was a different ballgame because everybody was like, oh, they lost because your song. You know, that whole narrative. And so that was definitely, like, a Lord's timing moment. That was pretty wild.
Jase Robertson
I thought you were gonna say the state of Alabama stormed your house. That's how you liked it.
Phil Robertson
I did have.
Zach Dasher
No, that's gonna happen now.
Phil Robertson
I did have some, like, buddies. Dads who were, like, big Alabama fans, like, hate commenting. My Instagram. And I was like. I was like, guys, have y'all not listened to the song here? Like, literally, guys. I know. Yeah.
Al Robertson
That's a risky deal.
Phil Robertson
I mean, as a new artist, I guess you got to have a little controversy like that. I mean, that's a. That's a pretty easy way to do it. The funny thing is, we've played in Tuscaloosa, you know, four or five times. They love the song there more than anywhere. Like, it's massive there, because all those Alabama girls just think that their ex boyfriend's singing it about them so that they kind of end up liking the song. So.
Jase Robertson
So you've made. Yeah, you've made it. Okay. I was wondering if you've ever done an event in Alabama since that song came out.
Phil Robertson
Oh, yeah. Well, I mean, you know, Christian's an Auburn guy, so they. They love it down there.
Christian Huff
So.
Jase Robertson
Auburn. Well, I'm sure they love it.
Christian Huff
Yeah, Auburn loves it.
Jase Robertson
Yeah. Because I was fixing to Say, my son just proposed marriage to a girl from Alabama, but she went to Auburn, so she's good, right?
Christian Huff
Yes.
Jase Robertson
Yeah.
Phil Robertson
Yeah. It's about the school, not the state, so we're clean.
Christian Huff
It's definitely about the school.
Phil Robertson
Yeah.
Al Robertson
About the school.
Jase Robertson
That's funny.
Al Robertson
Christian, I want to hear about the. Now you are going to be a dad for the third time.
Christian Huff
Yep.
Al Robertson
How's the pregnancy coming along? What's the update?
Christian Huff
Well, good question, Zach. Thanks for asking. You know, it's going really good. It's definitely been a lot different than the first two. She's been. Yeah. Not as sick as she was the first two. The two times going around. Yeah. Trying to navigate filming the show and traveling and, you know, and all the. All those different things with being pregnant and chasing the two we have right now. But she's doing really good. She's feeling great. She's. Yeah. Entering into almost her third trimester, which is crazy. So it's going to be here before you know it, but she's feeling really good. Still not talking about the gender, because it's still a surprise.
Jase Robertson
Oh, y'all go. I was wondering if y'all were going to do this.
Christian Huff
Well, we know. We. We know what the gender is, but we're not sharing it publicly yet, so.
Al Robertson
I think you should break it right here on this. Ratings right there.
Christian Huff
Yeah. But, yeah, no, she's. She's. Yeah, she's doing really good. She's. She's thriving.
Phil Robertson
She's currently. I just keep.
Al Robertson
I just keep going, man. You know, don't stop. Don't stop after three.
Zach Dasher
Well, it sounds like it's getting easier, so I think you just need to keep going. So, Connor, tell us. So you're. You're newly married, Is that right? You're a newlywed, Connor?
Phil Robertson
Yeah, we've been. We've been married for a year. We just celebrated a year. And, you know, so Christian and I, we met, like I said, two or three years ago. He invited me and some buddies down to do a little hunting trip down here in Monroe. And so that was two years ago. And so we came down here and it was Christian, like, you know, his eight. Eight buddies down in Monroe doing a whole hunting trip. And. And all of them were married and, you know, baby on the way, or they had one, and they all got married at 19. And I was dating my now wife, you know, at the time. And I left that trip. I was like, all right, I need to. I need to go and get. Hurry this thing up and get a ring. So.
Jase Robertson
So basically they gave you the birds and the bees talk.
Christian Huff
Yeah, essentially we pressured him into hurrying it up.
Jase Robertson
Yeah.
Phil Robertson
Now they showed me the example of, of, of the goodness of marriage. So we got back and we dated for a little bit over a year. She moved to Nashville. Yeah, we got engaged and then got married last April.
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Jase Robertson
Congratulations. See, my dad, he's always had a way if, like if someone's dating and Al will remember this hundreds of times, he'll meet somebody, he'll say, hey, Connor, it's better to marry than to burn with passion. And then if you say, yeah, I think I'm gonna marry you, then he comes back with the verse. What is that one?
Zach Dasher
He says, oh, it's the one at 1st Corinthians 7.
Jase Robertson
He said, I wanna, I wanna warn you though. Life is, I mean, a marriage is filled with Trouble.
Zach Dasher
He who marries will be taking on many troubles in this life.
Christian Huff
That was how he started our wedding.
Zach Dasher
I know he did.
Al Robertson
Don't ever bring your wife on this podcast, though. I made that mistake last week. And when I. These two guys tried to create a divorce moment that funny.
Jase Robertson
Let me just tell you what really happened. Zach did one of the more stupid stunts that a husband could ever do. He forgot the rule, which is a godly principle, that when you get married in God's math, it's. It's supernatural math. It is one. One man plus one woman equals one. So that's math that you won't find at your local public school. So Zach has this moment that says, oh, Florida. Because he's a Florida fan. She's from Alabama and is an Alabama fan. And we probably shouldn't let her listen to this. Probably.
Zach Dasher
But she. Trust me, she doesn't listen.
Jase Robertson
So Zach's like, well, I'm Florida. Basketball goes to the. Whatever. What do they go to?
Zach Dasher
Final Four.
Jase Robertson
The Final Four. And so Zach, he starts buying. He starts buying tickets without remembering the one plus one. So he.
Zach Dasher
When Alabama was one step away. I mean, when he was buying the.
Al Robertson
Tickets until they got beat in the elite eight. And then. But here's what happened.
Jase Robertson
No, no, hold on, Zach. I'm not finished. So he invites his son never invites.
Al Robertson
His wife, who's a Florida fan. My son's a Florida fan.
Jase Robertson
Well, because he's like, well, she's not. She's not a Florida fan. She. One plus, she's you. If you're going to any event, the first invitation is to your wife, because one plus one is one. And so then he calls her and says, can you come pick me up in Louisiana? But not only did he not invite her, then she drives 11 hours to pick him up. And then it's like, oh, while you're here, come on our podcast.
Zach Dasher
So in a big party bus, you've taken the story.
Al Robertson
You've taken the story to a different level. Now, that's not actually what happened.
Jase Robertson
Now, these are the facts. So look, then when she sat down on the podcast, she just exploded. It had nothing to do with me or Al. She said. I said, are you. Are you. Are you upset? And she's like, yeah. And she told us.
Al Robertson
Connor needs to know this because the reason why Jill did not get the invite, because I was on YouTube and I was doom scrolling and I came across a song, I Hate Alabama. And it inspired me to not invite my wife on the trip.
Phil Robertson
Hey, don't put me in this so.
Jase Robertson
Is your wife from Alabama?
Phil Robertson
No, she's from North Carolina.
Jase Robertson
Okay. So if Tennessee ever makes it to any kind of championship game, remember, don't say, oh, you're from North Carolina. I mean, she's in. She. I mean, that's something you want to experience with your other half that's now become one y'all with.
Phil Robertson
Y'all would think this is funny, talking about, you know, the marriage is troubled, whatever, you know, Phil says, so we moved into a house, and I'm not going to tell our address, but. But we moved into a house. And so right when we got married, we bought a house. And so I was like, kind of wondering if there was any verse that could be, like, prophetic over our home or whatever. And so the numbers are 1913. And so I was like. I was like, I wonder if there's any verse, you know, 1913. So the first one I looked up was Proverbs 19:13. Well, Proverbs 19:13 is a quarrelsome wife is like a leaky roof. Straight up first verse.
Al Robertson
Yeah. You know.
Phil Robertson
And so now, you know, when you go to weddings and they'll have the. The Bible open and they'll have, like, highlight your favorite verse and write your name. If I know the couple well enough, I'll go highlight Proverbs 19:13 and just sign my name with a heart.
Zach Dasher
I am liking Connor more and more.
Jase Robertson
So Connor, you. You read that verse and did. Did you then say babe?
Phil Robertson
Yeah. Oh, I called her immediately. No, actually, I think I texted her and I go. I go, babe, like, you know, just found this verse. I feel like it's prophetic over our home and just put Proverbs 19:13. Made her go look it up, you know, made her do the work to get the laugh, but she thought it was funny.
Al Robertson
I have a question for you, Connor, because I've been looking on Instagram and at some of Yalls post, and this is. So I've talked a lot about. In theological circles, there's a. You probably heard this. There's a. What's called the secular sacred divide. And you don't cross over. You got your church life over here and you got your secular life over here, and those things do not interact. And I think it's one of the tragedies of the church in the last 50 years is that we've adopted this lie, that there's these spaces. And, you know, I operate under the assumption and I think the truth, that it's all sacred, it's all his. And so I've been watching you Guys, there's these clips that are going viral of your, your concerts and it'll say something like, worship service breaks out at a country music concert. Which is awesome because what you're doing, I think in this I'd love to hear about kind of how that, like, I think our audience will love that. And I want them, by the way, to go watch some of these lips because they're incredible. But like, how did that start and what, like, what in the heck is going on?
Phil Robertson
Yeah, man. I mean, from the beginning, I've always had felt like I had a dual calling on my life of ministry and country music. You know, I grew up in Nashville, started writing songs at six years old. A lot of that early stuff was worship songs, contemporary Christian songs. I always say that, you know, I was too scared to write love songs for girls, so I just wrote love songs for Jesus. And that was kind of how I started and thought that that was going to be what the Lord had for my life. And then as you know, I grew up 13, high school, really fell in love with country music and I started to write country songs. And then, you know, I started. I signed my first deal at 16, record deal at 18, and so was pretty young as I started, but I always felt this kind of calling on my heart towards ministry towards Jesus. How I say if I wasn't, you know, a country artist, I'd probably be a pastor or something of the sort. And so I've spent the last four years growing up a lot and trying to figure out how do you marriage the two, you know, to step into a secular industry where, you know, and country music is specific industry that Jesus is allowed in. Yeah, but it's the same. To say the name Jesus on stage can oftentimes be the same thing as saying the name Trump, where people just celebrate because it's a part of culture.
Jase Robertson
Yeah.
Phil Robertson
That makes any sense.
Jase Robertson
At a festival or whatever, they either celebrate or boo.
Phil Robertson
Exactly. You know, and so, but actually like creating not just, you know, country music is faith, family, sports, hunting. Right. But how do you actually bring revival into country music has been a big part of my heart and I don't, I don't have all the answers to that. But I do know the Lord's called me into that and I've been trying to slowly figure out or he's been unveiling some of those things and we've definitely just had some massive breakthrough. I mean, what you're talking about, Zach, we just did a tour. I did a co headlining tour with, with my best friend in the music industry named Dylan Marlowe, another country artist at the same level. And our friendship is really centered around how do we do this genre that is of the world, but how do we steward what the Lord gives us to Jesus in the same way, you know, you guys had this TV show, but the TV show, you were using the TV show as a platform to speak the name of Jesus.
Jase Robertson
Right.
Phil Robertson
How do we do that in country music? And. And so as we stepped onto this tour, we had had a lot of conversations before him, and we said, hey, it doesn't matter how many people show. It doesn't matter how many tickets we sell. It doesn't matter, you know, if they came here for me or for you. How do we unite together and speak the name of Jesus? Because there's such a boldness with two of us up there doing that.
Zach Dasher
Yeah.
Phil Robertson
And so we had this song. I mean, all of it was kind of God ordained, but so we had this song that we were getting ready to put out together called country in the Clouds. And it's kind of this, you know, kind of a gospel country song about hoping, you know, heaven looks like the sticks sort of idea.
Jase Robertson
Yeah.
Phil Robertson
And so I called him one day, and I was messing around in my living room playing the song, and it. And it led perfectly into, like, a mashups of some worship songs. So I sent him a voice memo. Hey, what do you think about doing this? And he loved it. And so we were gonna do this one's. Brandon Lake, Gratitude. We're gonna do this song and then go into the chorus of Gratitude. Switch it up. I do half. He does half. Well, the first night of the tour, I sang the wrong song, so I ended up singing great. Are you Lord? Instead of Gratitude, David Leonard. Yeah, exactly. And so I started. I start singing this David Leonard song, and I get to, like, the second line. I'm like. I'm singing the. I'm singing the completely wrong song. So I just finished the chorus. I'm just like. I'm just. Let me just get through the course. And then I. I look over to Dylan on stage and I just go, hey, sing Gratitude now. So then he does the whole course of gratitude when I tell you that in the middle of this bar where everyone is drinking tall boys and trying to, you know, flirt with a girl, the atmosphere shifted like that.
Al Robertson
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Jase Robertson
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Tell us.
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Phil Robertson
And the presents fell down. I mean, I almost got emotional every night and there was such a weight in the room that it brought. And so we did it every night and every night the Lord came. I've had more comments after the show about how much it impacted people than anything we've ever done. And it was such an eye opening thing for me and for Dylan to go, man, this is how you represent Christ in these atmospheres that no one's coming there, you know, to encounter Jesus. But man, we've got a platform. We're on the stage, we got 1200 people looking at us and if we could just take a moment to go, hey man, the only reason we're Here, the only reason we've been given this platform, there's a CS Lewis quote I love that is like, I think is in Mere Christianity where he says somewhere a man can't take credit for his giftings and talents any more than a man can take credit for having blue eyes. Right?
Jase Robertson
Yeah.
Phil Robertson
And so I think about that a lot of, like, why was I given the gift of singing? I have no idea. Why was I given this gift of being able to write songs and, and communicate in that way? No idea. But God picked me for. For that and gave me that attribute. And, and so my stewardship of that, my response of that in Thanksgiving is to give it back to him. And. And so, yeah, that mean in those worship moments, man, it was really special. And it was a. It was a revival moment for me in my heart to realize how to take those atmospheres and shift them towards the Lord in a really authentic way that doesn't feel forced.
Jase Robertson
I would call that Jesus stuff. You know what's crazy? You said that. So, like, two nights ago, I was doing a show and I was west of Abilene, middle of nowhere. I think there was 94 people there, which.
Al Robertson
And by show, you don't mean you were singing, you mean you were.
Jase Robertson
You were speaking.
Al Robertson
That's his.
Jase Robertson
I'm just going to tell you what happened. You can do with this what you want. I was asked to go and be a part of this show. It was a jazz concert, and someone, they had had a meeting and they wanted to do a fundraiser to raise money for these high school kids who are jazz musicians. And it was about 30 of them. And I'm at the concert. So I kept thinking, why am I here? I assumed it was a Christian school because I'm more about my faith than anything else. But, oh, no. They said, well, we know you're musically inclined because you blow a duck call. So I thought, wow. So it was the same atmosphere you described. I quickly figured out that the people in the audience, even though it wasn't a lot of people, it was basically a private party. They had a lot of money, and that's why they were there and they had the concert. And I was just there to kind of bridge the gap. But it's funny because I don't know what they thought I was going to say, but when those kids who were. When I say they were talented, was off the charts, but I went the same direction you did. I said, you know what you just saw there? This is my opening line. I said, you saw the image of God being Shown through their talents because they were doing most of their songs ad lib just off the top of their head. And it was really impressive. Of course, I have my Bible. I did my little duck call thing. I was like, it's a lot like playing a trombone, I think. And of course, I shared Jesus. And just like you said, the total atmosphere changed because I'm pretty sure me and the kids were the few sober people there. But I think it went well and it was one of the few events I stayed after because There was only 94 people there, so it wasn't a rush to the door. And, you know, the altar call just happened organically. People came up with tears in their eyes and it's like, we need to hear more about that. So I think that's Jesus stuff. That's beautiful, you know.
Zach Dasher
Well, I couldn't help but think kind of when you were talking about it sounds so much like David, like King David, I mean, who's famous for being a king and slaying Goliath and doing all these things. But really his heart, it was the heart of a musician. And the writing of the psalms, I mean, those weren't. We think of those now because they inspire so many worship songs. It's like he was just. It was strictly that. But these, A lot of these were just where his heart was at the moment. Some of them are rough, some of them are raw, some of them are about destroying my enemies and all these different things. But it was a. A word spoken into his culture at his time, but that God was always a part of it. And so, you know, like you, I mean, he had different gifts, but that was the one it seemed like that he relied on the most, which I thought was pretty powerful.
Phil Robertson
Yeah, I mean, I mean, David's roadmap is something that I look at every day because you look at the life of David, he's a shepherd boy, he's out in the field. Samuel comes and anoints him and says, you're going to be king. You can just imagine his confusion in that moment. And I look at him, he's out in this field and he's like, probably wondering, how in the world am I going to become a king? I'm from the lowest tribe, I'm the last in my family. Some say he's an illegitimate child. Right, right. And he's like, how in the world would that even happen? Well, it was through the gift of music that he was brought into the throne room. Right.
Jase Robertson
It was.
Phil Robertson
It was when Saul lost the spirit of God and Couldn't find any peace. Someone said, I know of a boy from the tribe of Benjamin who can play skillfully. The lair. So he was good at guitar and he could sing songs, and he carried the presence. And so that gifting that David had stewarded in the field with the sheep winds up getting him in the throne room and finding favor with the king. And I think that's so beautiful because you see what David ended up doing with that opportunity. But it was really through music that he was allowed into the door.
Jase Robertson
Some people play a harp for the Lord. Some people blow a duck call. That's my point.
Phil Robertson
Amen.
Al Robertson
I was thinking of where we sit today. We're doing this podcast we have. I mean, it's one of the biggest Christian podcasts out there. And then there's you guys.
Jase Robertson
Not to brag, Zach. Humility is a staple in the kingdom of God, but go ahead.
Al Robertson
I wasn't bragging. Jace Christian, you're laughing too hard, man. I was going to compliment you next. You guys are filming. Filming a TV show. All. All of Sadie's ministry. Every. We did. We did a movie. There's so much going on, and you think, man, what if you could, like, isolate that to a birth moment? What was. What popped in my head when you were talking, Connor, was a moment where Phil did what he wasn't supposed to do. He broke through that secular sacred divide. He was down in, I think, the Superdome in New Orleans receiving an award. I think it was the Louisiana Sportsman's hall of Fame induction or something. I can't remember what it was. But he's standing on the stage at this sportsman's banquet, and he sees the audience and he's like, I have to tell him about Jesus. And he looks down in his bag, he's got his Bible. So I think he'd already maybe done his duck call demonstration, his whole duck hunt thing. He said, boys, I gotta tell you something before I leave. He said, I stand before you tonight beneath the sign King of Beers, because they had the Budweiser sign above his head. He said, but I can't leave without telling you about the King of Kings. And it was that moment, and he preached the gospel to him. And all these grown men were like, just started to weep. Like, you talk about the atmosphere change. He went and he brought the sacred into the secular because it's all sacred anyways. And that seemed to be the moment. Would you say, Al, that was kind of the birth of really Phil hitting the speaking circuit. I mean, that was kind of a big moment. For. And we all kind of. So I'm not bragging, Jason. I'm saying we're, we're like standing on the shoulders of a decision that he made in a moment that now we're, we're able to even have the platform that we have here.
Zach Dasher
But, you know, it's so. Zach, it was, you're a little off. It wasn't the hall of fame deal, but it was in the Superdome and you described it perfectly. And it was just 400 surprise Cajuns that, that dad would do this. But you're right, it immediately changed the impact kind of what Connor was describing. But what's more interesting, when dad walked off stage, because I was there, the guy who was selling our duck calls for us. He looked at dad and he was like, Phil, you can't do that. He was a cage, you know, he said, you can't do that. You, you can't mix your business and your religion. You'll lose both. And I'll never forget. Dad looked him square in the eye and he said, dubasad, do you understand? Without Jesus there would be no business. It's, it's the reason I'm here. And I saw that like ironclad, this is our culture now. And that went forward and that was, you know, 25 years before anybody even thought about television show or an ability to do it on a bigger platform. But that's the thing. I mean, what Connor's describing is when you make a decision and do it on whatever platform you're on, God can trust you with a little and he can trust you with a lot.
Al Robertson
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Zach Dasher
You're right. I think that set our culture as a family. Wouldn't you agree, Jason?
Jase Robertson
Yeah. I thought he was going to say this moment because my wife reminded me last night because I thought Connor Smith, I was like, oh, he's a country music singer. And I said in front of my wife, don't. I don't want to hurt your feelings. I said, what do I know about country music? I was like, what are we going to talk about? She said, babe, you, you were part of country music. And I was like, what? She's like, you don't remember we. We have a country music album that you sang on or mostly talked, but on one song that went platinum, that.
Phil Robertson
Christmas record y'all did or something.
Zach Dasher
Yeah, yeah.
Jase Robertson
So she said, and did you realize that it was the number one Christmas album in 2013? And I was like, well, the number one Christmas album. She said, we beat Garth Brooks. And I thought, are you kidding me? And I'm not bragging because I just found this out last night. I was like, what does going platinum mean? But she said, you don't remember? The whole time we were doing it, you said, this will never work. Which I did. I was like, this will never work. But what it made me think the reason I'm telling you that is really singing is storytelling. And I saw that all over the place where the media and your fans, when I was researching you, that seemed to be the one thing that came out above all others. And so I'm not shocked because the greatest story in the world is the story of Jesus. And so I think you combining that in this kind of spirit filled way is why, you know, the Lord is blessing your endeavors.
Phil Robertson
Thanks, man. I mean, you look at Jesus, it's all parables, you know, and there's such an easy way to connect those with country songs.
Jase Robertson
Oh.
Phil Robertson
I mean, I've written a ton of country songs that are just directly tied to scripture, but you wouldn't know that unless I told you the scripture.
Jase Robertson
Oh, it makes you smart and clever. I mean, it's this. My point was, it's the same thing that we deal with, duck dungeons, because when people look at us, they think. Think, oh, a bunch of dumb rednecks, you know, but really having that connection with the creator of the universe, it immediately makes you way more smarter than you might look.
Phil Robertson
100.
Christian Huff
Yeah.
Al Robertson
Christian, how'd you. How'd you. How did you guys meet up, by the way?
Christian Huff
So we met up from. Actually, from social media.
Jase Robertson
So we.
Christian Huff
Me and Sadie spoke. We did a Q a together in D.C. at a church. It was a relationship Q A. I was with my family during the summer, like, three years ago, and my cousin was, you know, playing, like, Spotify, you know, through the speaker of the house we were in. And he was playing Connor's music. And at the time, I wasn't really listening to country music that much. And he was like, connor's the next big thing in country music. And it didn't. Didn't really think much of it. And then the next week, me and Sadie went and spoke at this event. And then the next day, I got a DM from Connor, which you can kind of tell that story.
Phil Robertson
Yeah. Yeah.
Christian Huff
That's kind of how we ended up getting in contact with.
Phil Robertson
Well, yeah, I mean, I was. It was. So I just started touring kind of full time. I'd gotten asked to be on the Thomas Rat tour, and that was kind of my first massive moment for my career. And so I was just getting started. I just started dating my now wife. And so, so much was getting thrown at me. I was in the middle of this big transition life of touring, being on the road, and just trying to figure out who I was. You know, it's one thing to, you know, say you're going to do it for the Lord, but then you get thrown into the fire and everything gets tested. And so I was really kind of fighting. Fighting for my faith out there, fighting for my calling and trying to figure out what that was. And so a lot of that for me was every night on a tour bus. I would just go to bed, listen to a sermon, listening to wisdom, you know, whoever it was. And there was one night. I mean, I think my. I mean, we might not even have Started dating, but I was trying to get. Convince her to date me sort of thing. And so I was listening to a lot of relationship stuff. I stumbled upon their video and of them talking about their relationship, and I was really encouraged by it. So I hit up Christian and just told him, hey, man, I'm encouraged by your faith and the way that you're walking in this calling, the way that you're standing for biblical manhood in a way that is sincere and approachable and also, for lack of a better word, cool.
Jase Robertson
Yeah.
Phil Robertson
You know what I mean? And. And so we connected through that. And then I think was on his podcast from there.
Christian Huff
Well, then I invited you to. Yeah, what's. That's what I'm saying. That's why the timing was so funny, because my brother was. Or my cousin was showing me his music. And then the very next week, he had DM me talking about how me and Sadie's talk had really impacted him. And then I invited. Yeah, I invited you down after that. Then you came on a. You know, we duck hunted a couple days, and then. Yeah, we've been good buddies ever since.
Al Robertson
Yeah.
Christian Huff
And then. And then it's cool now because now Connor's good friends with all my friends, so we kind of all got a. The little group hang going on, so it's been fun.
Zach Dasher
So, Connor, did you. Did you grow up watching the show when it was on?
Phil Robertson
Oh, yeah, Every Wednesday night. I mean, we go to church on Wednesday, come home, watch as a family, which. Which was. I mean, it's cool. It's wild. I mean, even being in this building right now. This building?
Jase Robertson
Yeah.
Phil Robertson
Famous in my head. Right.
Jase Robertson
Kind of weird. Like, right next door is the duck call room. So this is.
Zach Dasher
So, Connor, did you. Do you listen to Unashamed? Do you have an opportunity to ever listen to the podcast?
Phil Robertson
Yeah, we. I mean, I listened to Unashaved a good bit. That was. That was. I mean, like Zach said, one of the biggest Christian male podcasts. Right?
Al Robertson
Yeah. When I said that, that was bragging. But when Jay said he went platinum, he said he wasn't.
Zach Dasher
He said, I wasn't bragging.
Christian Huff
I was laughing at J. I just.
Jase Robertson
Found out about that. I was like, I still didn't think that worked. I don't do social media and stuff, so, I mean, my wife was like.
Zach Dasher
Tell us, Connor, is there. How can folks find your music and. Or find out where you're touring and stuff like that?
Phil Robertson
Yeah, man. I mean, Connor Smith music. C O N E R Smith music on pretty much all the. All the Social medias, instagram and then connorsmithmusic.com is. Is the easiest way to do it.
Zach Dasher
Well, your story is amazing. I want to. I want to leave with this. Psalm 19:13, written by King David says, keep your servant also from willful sins. May they not rule over me. Then will I be blameless, innocent of great transgression.
Jase Robertson
So he gave you a 1913.
Zach Dasher
I gave you a replacement.
Jase Robertson
Thank you very much.
Phil Robertson
I needed that for my marriage.
Zach Dasher
And tell your wife we said hello as well. Christian, it's always good to have you as well. Connor, God bless you and what you're doing. We're 100% behind you. To tear down that wall and be Jesus servant in front of people and for people is an amazing calling. So we're excited to see where God takes you and all that.
Phil Robertson
Praise God. Thank you, guys.
Jase Robertson
Connor, just when I thought I was done with country music, the Lord sent you and pulled me back in, which is actually funny.
Christian Huff
You said you're going to work on the. On the Duck Buns later because the. Because the river's rising. He has a song called the Creek Will Rise.
Jase Robertson
Really?
Christian Huff
You'll have to listen to it going down to go fix it.
Jase Robertson
Well, remember this, when the creeks rise, I'm moving blinds. This is a once in a five year opportunity to get the blind on the X.
Phil Robertson
Come on. Well, we got. Yeah, we got a song coming out Friday called Country in the Clouds. That. That's just a Jesus country song. So you'll like that one.
Zach Dasher
Everybody, everybody look for it. Connor, God bless you, brother. We'll see you next time. Thank you for being on Unashamed. Thanks for listening to the Unashamed podcast. Help us out by leaving a rating and review on Apple podcasts. And don't miss an episode by subscribing on YouTube. And be sure to click the little bell and choose all notifications to watch every episode.
Podcast Summary: Unashamed with the Robertson Family
Episode: Ep 1080 | Christian Huff Drops Baby News, Jase Meets Brock Purdy & Conner Smith Mixes Faith with Fame
Release Date: April 24, 2025
The episode kicks off with a light-hearted acknowledgment of minor technical delays in recording. Zach Dasher and Jase Robertson briefly discuss the challenges they faced, including unexpected phone calls disrupting the session. This sets a casual and relatable tone for the listeners.
Jase Robertson shares an entertaining and heartfelt story about spontaneously deciding to fly to Nashville to surprise his family at a significant event—the Resurrection Weekend at the Ryman Theater, where his son is leading worship.
However, the surprise doesn't go as planned. Upon arrival, Jase’s daughter-in-law, Missy, isn't present, leading him to contemplate a playful prank. Instead, circumstances change, resulting in an unexpected and deep conversation about faith with Missy.
While navigating a personal emergency during the Nashville trip, Jase unexpectedly meets Brock Purdy, the quarterback for the San Francisco 49ers. This serendipitous encounter highlights the intertwining of faith and fame, as they discuss Brock's readiness for Jesus and its impact on his life.
The podcast welcomes back Christian Huff, who brings along his good friend Connor Smith, a rising country music singer. The hosts express excitement about Connor's presence and delve into his background and connection to the Robertson family.
Connor Smith shares his dual passion for ministry and country music, explaining how he strives to infuse his faith into his musical endeavors. He recounts a pivotal moment during a tour where accidentally singing the wrong song led to an authentic worship experience that profoundly impacted the audience.
Phil Robertson adds depth by relating Connor’s experience to biblical narratives, emphasizing the power of music in ministry.
The discussion shifts to the challenge of maintaining faith in secular environments. Phil Robertson recounts his experience of preaching the gospel at a sportsman's banquet, illustrating the impact of bringing sacred conversations into everyday settings.
Zach Dasher emphasizes the importance of integrating faith authentically into all aspects of life, drawing parallels to biblical figures like King David.
The conversation takes a personal turn as Christian Huff shares joyous news about expecting his third child, reflecting on the challenges and blessings of balancing family life with ministry and music. The hosts engage in humorous banter about marriage, highlighting the importance of unity and mutual support.
The discussion culminates in a powerful exploration of breaking the perceived barrier between secular and sacred life. Phil Robertson reflects on historical moments where faith was boldly proclaimed in unlikely settings, inspiring the current generation to use their platforms for genuine spiritual outreach.
Connor Smith echoes this sentiment, sharing his vision of using country music as a medium to share the gospel, emphasizing storytelling as a bridge between his faith and his audience.
The episode wraps up with heartfelt goodbyes and encouragement for listeners to support Connor Smith’s musical journey. The hosts reiterate their commitment to intertwining faith with every aspect of life, leaving listeners inspired to embrace their own platforms for spiritual influence.
Integrating Faith and Daily Life: The episode emphasizes the seamless integration of faith into all aspects of life, including secular environments like music and sports.
The Power of Storytelling: Through personal anecdotes and musical storytelling, the hosts and guests illustrate how sharing one's faith can create impactful and transformative experiences.
Community and Support: The importance of community, family, and mutual support in maintaining and expressing one's faith is a recurring theme throughout the discussion.
Boldness in Faith: The conversation encourages listeners to be bold in their faith, using their unique talents and platforms to share the gospel authentically.
This episode of Unashamed with the Robertson Family masterfully blends personal stories with profound insights on faith, demonstrating how one can navigate and merge the sacred with the secular. Through engaging narratives and meaningful conversations, listeners are encouraged to embrace their faith boldly and authentically in every facet of their lives.