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Jase Robertson
I am unashamed. What about you?
Phil Robertson
Welcome back to Unashamed. We are. We're in our boxes, but I'm looking at the studio. Jace in my chair and Al's chair is my ersw son in law. Stone has joined the Unashamed podcast. Welcome, Joe.
Joe
Thank you. Good to be here.
Chad Wright
He got caught. He got called up to the. To the bigs from duck call room.
Phil Robertson
Stepped up. It's a. It's a. It's a move up from the triple A's J into the major leagues. You probably won't be here long. We'll send you back down. But today you're here.
Joe
Well, I've noted there's a big difference between unashamed and duck call room. The biggest difference is organization.
Chad Wright
We're not that organized either, but you guys are on another level.
Jase Robertson
So your leader is Uncle Sigh.
Phil Robertson
Oh, I'm aware that's where.
Jase Robertson
Can you spell disorganization with that? Si. Nope.
Phil Robertson
Well, I say Jay I talk about all the time. So. So in fact, Jay was down here a couple of weeks ago and we did a little crabbing off our dock down here and you know, Stone is always learning things and then teaching them and so he's teaching me about how to boil these shrimp and crab. So Jay, I had to call you this week because I'm. I'm organizing a little din of some of my friends down here and I'm going to take my first shot at the old shrimp barrel. And so I'm going to have to get all your insights. But you, what'd you learn from a Cajun online? Where'd you learn?
Joe
There's this fellow on. On the YouTube. The stale cracker. He's a stale cracker. You seen him, Zach?
Chad Wright
Yeah, Put it on a cracker, dude.
Joe
That's it. That guy, he said, we don't burrow these shrimp. Yeah, but he's very entertaining, you know?
Jase Robertson
Do they use subtitles for.
Joe
I think so.
Chad Wright
He's Cajun. I mean, his boy.
Joe
Oh, he's full blood. You know, he's one of them. He got papers.
Phil Robertson
But that dude, he said, while we wait. While we wait, we hydrate.
Joe
Yeah.
Chad Wright
And then he's getting shotguns. A beer.
Phil Robertson
Yeah, they drink the beer.
Chad Wright
He's got it. He wears, like, a holster with, like, two beers in it. But he. And he's very aggressive in his cooking. He does a jambalaya and he's got his paddle. He's. He's like, hitting the pan and he's screaming. I mean, it's. It's intense.
Joe
Oh, he's very entertaining. But he's got his little belt. He's got four holsters in it. Two of them is for Cajun seasoning and the other two for natural lights. But.
Jase Robertson
Yeah.
Chad Wright
What. What does he say? Hit it. Hit it with that two step.
Joe
Yeah, Cajun two step seasoning. It's. It's. It's good. But the dude, he knows what he's doing.
Phil Robertson
He does ache.
Chad Wright
He does.
Joe
Yeah.
Phil Robertson
And those. Those shrimp, they peel perfectly. He's got it down on the. When to put the seasoning, when not too. So Jay has got it perfected. And he does.
Chad Wright
But he does all that. He does the cracklings. I mean, he does anything that's like Louisiana cooking. I mean, he's got the recipe for it, and he. Turtle soup. He does the. I mean, I've watched him quite a bit, and at the end of each of his recipes, he says, put it on a cracker, dude. And he puts it on a saltine cracker, and he takes a bite of it.
Jase Robertson
That's your go to, man.
Joe
Oh, yeah.
Jase Robertson
Because, I mean, I think I told the story here. When I was up in Nashville a couple weeks ago, Reed had a smoking issue, which was he put the meat in the smoker. Did I share that story on the podcast?
Joe
Yeah, you did.
Jase Robertson
Oh, I did.
Phil Robertson
He did.
Chad Wright
He had to call Jay.
Phil Robertson
I'm glad you clarified. He had a smoking issue. I was like, did re. Start smoking now? I realized where you were going with that.
Chad Wright
And you said, don't let the temperature get above. Yeah, I forgot the degree.
Jase Robertson
You were just like. It was like a. You know, it was a hotline it was a smoker's hotline.
Joe
Yeah. Well, I notice anytime I get a call from Reed is about smoking meat.
Jase Robertson
Yeah.
Joe
You know, something done happened. What do I do, you know?
Chad Wright
But I've called the hotline a few times.
Phil Robertson
Yeah.
Chad Wright
Yeah, I've called. I couldn't figure out the brisket situation, and. Because I'd made a couple on my Traeger, and. And I just couldn't quite figure it out. So called Jay on the last.
Jase Robertson
You know what's funny is a spiritual application just popped in my mind over that, because. So he. He. He. There was a busy week because we were there. I forgot what they had going on. Oh, it was Easter. It was Easter week. And so he was singing at the rhyming, you know, leading worship. So he was practicing all hours of the day. And I had all his friends over. Of course, he goes and buys a mighty fine piece of meat. I mean, it was a whole rib eye, and so it goes out the smoker, because he just put it on a timer. But when he woke up, went out there to get it. It should have been ready.
Chad Wright
Yeah.
Jase Robertson
But it was zero temperature.
Joe
Yeah.
Jase Robertson
So he called you. But what I notice is all his buddies, they were all there. They were in the panic mode, and they kept. They kept tempting him to do something other than what you said because you could. You just gave it kind of off the top of your head, which I guess that's happened many times.
Joe
I've had that happen before.
Jase Robertson
Yeah. And he kept looking at me, and I said, trust what the man says. He. Your buddies are. You know that they're tempting you. I say, this is going back to the garden here.
Joe
Yeah.
Jase Robertson
I need to trust what the man says. He's the smoker.
Joe
Well, hey, our buddy's calling us right now. I guess he's at the back door.
Jase Robertson
All right, well, go get him.
Chad Wright
Go get him. We got. We'll continue with. This is. We're breaking the fourth wall again.
Phil Robertson
Yeah, we are. We've got a. We've got a guest on. Originally, we were going to have Chad Squared, is what I call him back home. Chad Robichaux, Chad Wright, couple of really fantastic guys. And Chad Robichaux is somewhere out there doing good. But Chad Wright still. Still came.
Chad Wright
And so, yeah, I've seen Chad Robichau, who was. What was he, a Marine? Recon.
Phil Robertson
I mean, he recon.
Chad Wright
He. So he's an MMA fighter, and he's a tough dude.
Phil Robertson
So he's also a black belt, Jiu Jitsu, which is what drew Jay into His circle. We first met him because Jay is, you know, has a. He's part owner of a jiu jitsu school, so he kind of was drawn to these guys. And Jay's, you know, military as well, so. But Chad Wright, I mean, man, he.
Chad Wright
Was a member of Navy Team 2, I believe.
Phil Robertson
I think it was. I think it was.
Jase Robertson
Yeah. He actually went to where we used to do the podcast.
Phil Robertson
Yeah. And this is the second time this has happened. Godwin. Godwin went out there.
Chad Wright
So that's where Chad. That's where Chad. Right.
Phil Robertson
Went.
Jase Robertson
Yeah. Zach, what kind of ship are you running here? This thing is taking on water. All our guests are going to the wrong location.
Chad Wright
That is a bad sign.
Joe
Well, that was partially, partially my fault, you know. Yeah, I could have communicated a little better.
Jase Robertson
I'll give you another spiritual application. If you're not careful about who you're running with, you'll wind up in the end in the wrong place. And you're like, what happened? What happened?
Phil Robertson
All right, well, look, let's take. Let's take a break, and when we come back, we'll. We'll have Chad set up to join us on the Unashamed podcast.
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Jase Robertson
Nope.
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Chad Robichaux
That's not on you, Zach. That's my man, J. Stone. I learned so much about J. Stone this weekend, good and bad. I thought I knew Jay, but until we had the hunting hell week this week, you know, we have hell week in SEAL training, and for some reason. So Navy seals, we got to make everything hard, even hunting.
Joe
Yeah.
Chad Robichaux
And so we wanted to plan a hunt. And I said, well, may coon hunting, squirrel hunting, backwater mosquitoes, heat snake day, night snakes. This is the hunting hail week. We had about 15 students to begin with, and we dwindled down the last hunt to four.
Chad Wright
So who were the last men standing? I want to hear that.
Jase Robertson
This was like some kind of like. Were you in? You invited guests?
Chad Robichaux
Oh, we.
Joe
Oh, Once the word got out, then everybody and the brother wanted to come. Oh, we had. Oh, we had people from New York, Christian, and one of his. Jonah, the security guy. I mean, everybody was there.
Jase Robertson
This was a training op.
Chad Robichaux
Yeah, yeah. And we had about the same attrition rate. As soon as SEAL training, we went from 15 to 4.
Joe
Yeah.
Jase Robertson
Mission success.
Chad Robichaux
Before you got here.
Jase Robertson
Before you got here, I told a story about the Jay's a smoking guru, smoking meat. And I got these young bucks in Nashville to trust what Jay said because the smoker going on. But, Jay, you asked me, which I thought was a curious question. That makes sense. You remember you sent me a text about what was this? When did this hell week start? About a week ago.
Chad Robichaux
Started Friday.
Joe
Friday night.
Chad Robichaux
Started Friday night.
Jase Robertson
Jay sent me a text, which I thought was weird, but now it's all making sense. He said, you want to go squirrel hunting in the morning? You remember what I said?
Joe
I can't.
Jase Robertson
Yeah. I can't. You should have trusted what I said there. Wrong time of year. This is the wrong time of year.
Chad Robichaux
Let me tell you, Jason, I disagree because we killed a passel of squirrels.
Jase Robertson
I'm not saying you couldn't get them. It's just not worth it. Well, we had.
Chad Robichaux
We had the dog, you know, and that makes squirrel hunting so much better. When you've got that dog to show you where they're at and, you know, you're moving. You're steady moving, so. But we killed a bunch. We took a mess over to Sigh. We took Sigh a whole pan of squirrels yesterday.
Jase Robertson
That's his favorite thing to eat.
Joe
Oh, he loves it.
Chad Robichaux
That was. It is funny that here we've come down here to Louisiana, drove eight hours to do some hunting, and by the last hunt, there wasn't a single member of the hunting party from Louisiana. We had three Georgia boys and a Florida boy out there, a North Florida.
Chad Wright
Boy from Lake City, from what I hear, right.
Chad Robichaux
Running around a corn field last night. We had no idea where we were, where the water was, but we had a buggy to hunt out of and a dog out there running a coon, and we made it happen, so. And Al, I want to congratulate you, man, because I know a lot of people are listening to this on audio and they can't see we only have half of Al. Where's the rest of you?
Joe
Al.
Chad Robichaux
I mean, I am so proud of you, man.
Phil Robertson
Thank you, Chad. Thank you for noticing. Yeah, I lost like a chunky middle schooler that I had around my waist. I'm still going. But you know what? It's amazing because I have not look back because I've been just looking forward, you know, where I want to get to. And I was actually looking back at the last time you were on the podcast, and there was a picture of me and Jace and you and Chad Robichau, and I was like, whoa. You know, you look back and you think, ow, you didn't look so good. So, yeah, it's. It's. It's definitely feels better to lose a little weight.
Chad Robichaux
And I can appreciate the amount of discipline that it has probably taken you and mental fortitude to not only just begin that journey, but to stick with it to the point that you have to feel so much better now, man.
Phil Robertson
No doubt about it. And then your energy comes back and you're able to get out and do stuff you used to do, which makes it a lot better. But I appreciate guys like you that are that way consistently because they help guys like me figure out, you know, hey, we got to. You were right. It's a mental beginning. I mean, you've got to start with the mind and say, okay, this is something that's got to be done. If you don't start there, you're never going to get the results you want.
Jase Robertson
You either do that or you come to Louisiana and run around in a cornfield at night chasing a dog. Ain't no way you're going to Be heavy if you do that consistently.
Chad Robichaux
No. And it's amazing too, man, when you, when you consider how much our, our physical body and our mind, we call it our soul, our mind, will and emotions, and our spirit, they're all so interconnected in so many different ways. And, you know, we don't do the best job as the church in terms of holding each other accountable to our physical health. Right. And when we can improve our physical health, health by discipline, by doing the things we know we should do, it does have a major positive impact on what we are able to accomplish as an ambassador for Christ out in the world. Not only the image that we portray in this physical world, but we just feel better. We have more energy, we have more drive. I think our mind is clear when we read the Word, when we read Scripture, when we pray, our mind is clear to receive what the Lord has for us in His Word. It's just all connected. And I would challenge every follower of Christ who's listening to this show. If you need to lose a little weight, get out and move your body, put in the work, and it's going to make a positive impact in the kingdom. It's definitely not everything, right? I'm not saying we should get to the point where we are worshiping our bodies and idolizing our physical fitness and our health, but it will make a tremendous impact, I believe.
Phil Robertson
Well, you make such a good point, Jad, because, you know, since I was 18 years old and came to Christ, I've been able to maintain a very strong spiritual discipline in terms of my approach to the Word of God, to my conversations with the Almighty, to, you know, on mission, with the Gospel. But what happens is a lot of times you then lose containment on some of the other basic things, which I did as well. And you're right, that's just as much an attack by evil as anything else. Because if you don't feel well, if you're sick, if you're limited, if you limit yourself and your opportunities, then that's an attack on you as a whole person because it's, it's body, soul, mind and spirit. You're right. It's all together. And so it's such a great point that all of it is, is the Almighty's to use for his will. And so the evil one, you know, if you can't get through in one attack, He. He comes at you another way. And that's a lot of times what happens with people. It certainly happened to me.
Chad Wright
Well, your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit. I mean, let's not forget that I think Christianity is unique in that of all the religions in the world, it actually has the highest view of. Of the human body in the physical world, and particularly that God incarnated and came into a human body, and then the Holy Spirit now lives in the bodies of believers. Romans, chapter 8, First Corinthians, chapter 6. There's a lot of verses in the Bible about that. Your body's a temple of the Holy Spirit. That's a big deal.
Chad Robichaux
And, Al, you made the point of how the Evil One will kind of wage war against us in terms of, on that physical side, our health.
Phil Robertson
Right.
Chad Robichaux
Well, what is. What is the Evil One's ultimate goal is to kill you. It's to kill you. So he wants you out of here.
Jase Robertson
Right.
Chad Robichaux
Because he knows if he can take you out of the equation, that's less that you can be used in the kingdom for the work that you've been given to do. And so I've just never thought about that before in terms of a spiritual attack. How addiction to food and sugar and an unhealthy lifestyle. Yeah, you can view it in that way. And you've got to wage the war on that front.
Joe
Well, you know, I used to be a little heavy myself.
Chad Robichaux
I know, Jay.
Joe
Yeah. You know what motivated me to lose weight? I had crippled down a Mallard Drake. I was about 235, 240 at this point, I remember. And I went to run him, and I finally caught up with him about 300 yards later. And when I finished him off, I started wheezing like an asthmatic. Like, I sound like W.E. phillips. He and I sat there on that levee for 45 minutes, wheezing. And I thought to myself, you know what? You are one pathetic individual. And from that point on, I said, I'm fixing to get my tail back into shape. And I've been in shape ever since. I'm just glad I didn't kill that.
Chad Wright
And how long was that? That's been. You kept it off for years. How long ago was that, Jay?
Joe
Oh, good night.
Phil Robertson
Yeah, it's probably been seven or eight years.
Jase Robertson
And it came about the time that your wife said, once you reached a certain weight. Oh, yeah, Just don't come back.
Joe
Yeah, Anna told me. She said, you get up to 300, I'm out of here. Think about her. When she says something, she makes it.
Phil Robertson
So the Robertson is strong in that one.
Joe
Oh, yeah. Oh, she's ate up with it. And I told her, and I told her I messed with her a few months ago. I said, since I'm in better shape, she is now. I said, I'll tell you what, you get up 200, I'm out of here. She cut them eyes. Over.
Chad Wright
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Chad Robichaux
Nope.
Chad Wright
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Yeah, we had some fruit trees, limes and lemons because they do really well of my sector.
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Jase Robertson
I thought about this passage in 1 Thessalonians 5. I mean, this is right after he's like, describes this, you know, Jesus coming back, dead bodies coming out of the ground. And then it's like, well, when is this all going, going to happen? And he's just like, well, don't be surprised when it does. He didn't really answer the question. He's like, nobody knows. Then he's like, we're, you know, children of the light. Live in the light. And then he gets to the end and he says, do not put out the spirit's fire. This is verse 20. Test everything. Hold on to the good. Avoid every kind of evil. And then he makes this statement in 23. This is first, Thessalonians 5. May God Himself, the God of peace, set you apart or sanctify you through and through. May your whole spirit, soul and body be kept blameless at the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ. The one who calls you is faithful, and he will do it. I think that's pretty powerful.
Chad Robichaux
It is man.
Phil Robertson
So, Chad, it's so good that we just naturally went here in this conversation, because the last time you were on the podcast, you. You had us riveted telling us your story of when you came to Christ. I mean, I'll never forget it. I've told a lot of other people as well. You were in that you were in North Africa someplace. You were. You were on mission, but you were surrounded by forces of evil, and you felt it and you knew it. And you wound up talking. Your. Your brother's pastor had prayer with you as you went around through this place, and it ultimately led you to the. To the feet of the cross. And it changed forever. And I just remember the impact of that, you telling it. And so recently we. We've been in the book of Ephesians at our church preaching, and Jace is up this week to wrap it up. But a couple of weeks ago, I preached on Ephesians 6, 10, 20, which is that great passage about spiritual warfare and the armor of God. And so I immediately thought about you, thinking back to your story, and then when you were going to come on the podcast, I said, oh, man, I want to get your perspective as. As both a physical warrior, you know, for our country, but also a spiritual warrior for Christ. And. And talk about a little bit us today. Talk a little bit about this passage about spiritual warfare as we've already led into that is more than just, you know, after our. Our soul. I mean, this is an eternal battle for everything, because once you become new in Christ, the eternity actually begins while you're here. I mean, there's no doubt about it. The line I use was, is eternal life. We've always thought about it as a quantity word. You know, in other words, it's forever. And we talk about that. What's heaven going to be like, and. And stuff like that. But it's actually a quality of life that begins here because once you've crossed over, you understand eternity, because the Holy Spirit of God lives in you. And so that brings eternity to camp. As Zach said earlier, as the Holy Spirit, you are the temple of the Holy Spirit of God. So that eternal life begins even now in this stage we're in on earth. And so the quality of life should go way up for believers who understand who God is. So I want to talk about that a little bit today and just get your perspective on that. I mean, have you thought much about that in terms of Ephesians 6 and how that applies into your daily spiritual walk?
Chad Robichaux
Yeah, I think about it quite often. And by the way, we were fortunate enough to interview my brother Zach on our podcast, and he laid out this whole doctrine of the eternal life beginning now for the believer in long form. And so beautifully, Zach, you are just onto something there that has impacted me and really changed my perspective on the time that I have here on this earth as a follower of Christ. And, man, I just pray that the Lord continues to use you to put that message out, because it's a message that the church needs to hear everywhere, and especially here in America. This isn't just us in survival mode, man. This is us thriving. Our eternal life began the moment we received the gift of salvation, and we are walking in that power through this life, man. And that message has changed my perspective, Zach.
Joe
So I want to Inspire me.
Chad Robichaux
Thank you, brother. I love you so much for that. But as far as spiritual warfare, the thing is, a lot of Christians might be listening to this, and it's hard to understand because we live in a country where our lives can be pretty cushy, right? And we're thinking about spiritual warfare. What is all this talk about spiritual warfare? You know, I've got. You know, even our problems that we have here in this country are pretty silly. I mean, they're a big deal to us, but they're pretty silly problems for the most part. Right? So what is the battle for every believer, the battle that every believer can identify with Earth? It's the battle between the remnant of the old man. That is that because you are still on this earth, there is a remnant of flesh, and the warfare is the battle between that remnant of your flesh and the sanctifying work of the Holy Spirit in you. Right? And, you know, I read Romans 12, and most of my speaking is off of Romans 12. Do not be conformed to the patterns of this world, but be transformed, literally go through a metamorphosis by the renewal of your mind. And when I speak on that, I have to wonder how many Christians are out there in the audience thinking, well, why do I need to renew my mind? It's because you are in a fight. And the fight is between that remnant of your fallen man and the sanctifying work of the Holy Spirit. And it's a daily battle for us to put that remnant to death. Right. As much as we possibly can. And now this is not for salvation. Right. This is fighting the good fight. This isn't salvation. We're saved by grace through faith and faith alone. But to me, that is the daily battle. And the spiritual warfare aspect, it doesn't always play out in the same type of experience that I had overseas. Right. That's what we want. We want to experience something like that because it's this confirmation that, okay, this is real. I mean, you sense the realness of it. But, you know, that experience that I had, I don't attribute that experience I had to the work of Satan, because Satan is way smarter than that. Yeah, he wouldn't. Satan would have never orchestrated that experience because he's smart enough to know that that's going to probably put me on a different course. Right. And so, you know, you think about how smart, how smart the enemy is he. Should you fear Satan? That's a question that I struggle with.
Jase Robertson
Should be the word respect, you know, because there's a story in Jude where he's like, don't even, you know, make fun of him. You know, it's a. It's a idea of respect. Where's that?
Chad Wright
Don't slander celestial beings.
Phil Robertson
Yeah.
Chad Wright
Even the Archangel Michael did not bring a slanderous accusation. Devil, when disputed over the body of Moses.
Jase Robertson
Jude. Yeah, that's Jude 9, verse 9. There's only one chapter in Jude. But even the Archangel Michael, when he was disputing with the devil about the body of Moses, which is an interesting thing because if you go back and read in Exodus about Moses, it says God buried him.
Phil Robertson
Yeah. In the Numbers.
Jase Robertson
And then later he showed up on that mountain, transfigured, you know, you kind of got a glimpse of some kind of new body. So. So something happened there with a. When you made the statement earlier about the number one goal of the evil one, the devil, it is to kill, destroy all the mind.
Chad Wright
That's it.
Jase Robertson
Hebrews 2:14 said Jesus came to destroy the power of the work of Satan, which is death. That's Hebrews 2:14. So that's why he's always associated with the realm of the dead. And so that is the enemy. So they had this, when he had this argument, it says he did not dare bring a slanderous accusation against him, but said the Lord rebuke you. So fear, respect. I mean, even the archangel wasn't like going to accuse him. He just said the Lord rebuke you.
Chad Robichaux
Yeah, because.
Chad Wright
But to be fair though, I do think that like that's a good point. But I preached on this this week, last week. We're going through Exodus and there's A, well, Exodus 3, there's a scene where Moses, he's at the burning bush, right? And Pharaoh in the book of Exodus represents the evil one. He represents everything that's evil. And God's instruction to Moses is not, go run from the devil, go run from Pharaoh. He says, I want you to go confront Pharaoh.
Jase Robertson
Yeah.
Chad Wright
And it reminds me of that, what Jesus told Peter when he said in Matthew 16, I tell you, you are Peter and on this rock I'll build my church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it. Now why do you have a gate? You have a gate to protect your fortress. It's to keep people out. The kingdom of heaven is storming the gates of hell and the gates of hell will not prevail against the onslaught of, of the kingdom of God. And I, to me, that's. The power is in Jesus. The power. We say the Lord rebuke you, but when we're coming on behalf of the Lord, we're not running from evil. We're, we're. The kingdom drives through evil and conquers it. It's a different way to look at it.
Phil Robertson
So guys, summer is almost here and if you got kids at home or like me, you got grandkids to come and spend time with you at your, your southern layer. You're always trying to find things for them to do and you know, whether it's activities or even things to do inside your home. A lot of times we read our grandkids books, which is why we love brave books because they help parents raise strong families by teaching biblical values through powerful faith filled stories. And Jace, you know something about brave books, do you not?
Jase Robertson
I do, Al. My wife help write this because you're my family. And I will say, Al, I'm also a dad and a granddad. And one of my favorite lines, to be honest, when I was busy, I would tell my kids, go read some books and they actually have a set of 10 in this little feature Here, look, you can just go read some books. These are good. Lots of books.
Phil Robertson
I love it. Jace. It's. It's a one man Brave skit. Each month, Brave sends out a new book that teaches lessons like courage, forgiveness, standing firm in your faith. Jace mentioned Missy's book because you're my family. Jeff and Jessica, also in our family, they release Dear Valor, which is a great story about adoption and what it means to be chosen. So when you subscribe, you not only get a new book each month, you'll also get access to Brave plus their new streaming platform packed with safe, uplifting shows like Strawberry Shortcake, Bob the Builder, and Iggy and Mr. Kirk with Kirk Cameron. So while the world tries to confuse and distract, Brave Books helps families stay grounded. Head over to bravebooks.com unashamed use the code unashamed to get Missy's book Because youe're My Family and Jeff and Jessica's book, Dear Valor for free. You can't beat that. That's bravebooks.com unashamed. Raise them with truth. Raise them Brave.
Jase Robertson
Now, I heard somewhere you brought up something interesting. So it's hard for me to do this off the top of my head, but I was listening to a sermon a year or two ago when. When he says that, that verse you just got through saying in Matthew 16, where he says, who do people say the Son of man is? They replied, some say John the Baptist, others Elijah, Jeremiah, Jesus says, verse 15. What about you? Who do you say I am? Peter answered, you are the Christ, son of the living God. And he said, blessed are you, Simon, for this was not revealed to you by man, but by the Father in heaven. I tell you that you're on Peter. I mean, that you're Peter. And on this rock I'll build my church. And the gates of Hades, it says, will not overcome it. And the guy I was listening to preach looked at the Greek, and when he got into the Greek language here on this phrase, one of these prepositions that we put in here in the translation does not exist. And of course, he started talking about it, and I was like, where's he going with this? But his point was, when you read it, the way we translate it, we're acting like it's coming at us, but it's not going to overcome it. But when you actually take that preposition that we just put in the English language, trying to grab a hold of it, it actually should read, the gates of Hades won't withstand it. You know? And his point was, who's dishing out the power here when you read it and insert that. And look, I'm not hating on the translators. They were just trying to get a picture of it. But I think we, a couple thousand years later are trying to wrestle with it and we think they're the one putting all the resistance and it's kind of the total opposite. They're not going to be able to endure the power of spirit filled people. Because if God is for us, who can be against us? Against us? And he solved all the problems that the evil one used. That's why I read that about he disarmed the rulers and the powers when he died on the cross and came back from the dead. Because what are their tools? They want to get you to sin and wallow in it, become a slave in it, and they want you to die. And that's what Jesus overcame. So I think just acknowledging that on who we are should make us way more aggressive in the face of evil.
Chad Robichaux
Yeah, that's good, Jase. That's good. Isn't it funny how we can read these specific scriptures and kind of misinterpret them for years and years and years and then it just doesn't quite make sense. When something in scripture doesn't make sense, it's because you're not understanding it.
Jase Robertson
Right, Exactly. That's why we need to go down the rabbit hole or the cane trail, you know, and say, wait a minute.
Chad Robichaux
Now just back to your original question on the Ephesians, you know, in spiritual warfare, I just think it's, you know, don't always. Because you can get carried away with spiritual warfare too. You know, you see people that they're in, their entire ministry just revolves around that one single, you know, aspect of scripture and you get carried away with it, you know, but. But there is a battle. It doesn't always look like what you think it's going to look like. And the battle is the forces of evil basically playing to that remnant of your fallen man, I think, and trying to bring, you know, manipulate the mind into succumbing to that, you know. Now I don't believe in this battle that's being waged. And I don't know about you guys, but I don't believe that there is any force of evil or the evil one that can actually create a scenario where the child of God can lose their salvation. I don't believe that. I think if we could lose our salvation, if it was ours to lose, we would darn sure lose it. And so that's another thing. When we talk about Spiritual warfare. I think so many Christians are out there going through life and they hear about this spiritual warfare and they get scared in a sense of I might lose this battle and therefore lose my salvation. And so that's another important thing that I think should be discussed in terms of this conversation is Satan is not powerful enough to come in and basically usurp the work that is done in you in terms of the work of salvation that is done in you as a believer. You can rest in that, man.
Jase Robertson
Yeah, well, I think it all comes down to just God's perspective versus your perspective. I mean, because there are some interesting verses, I think if you kind of wrap your head around this, which I find fascinating about the text. And I recommend everyone listen to that sermon Al preached because it was fantastic. And you kind of touched on this about usually spiritual warfare. We look at it just kind of from our own perspective, just like day to day. Oh, the, you know, Satan's behind every corner in these little decisions, but we don't really look at the big picture. But he had already addressed this in Ephesians 2, where he said, you remember when he said, as for you, you were dead in your transgressions and sins in which you used to live. When you follow the ways of this world and the ruler of the kingdom of the air, the spirit who is now at work in those who are disobedient. Well, we know what he's talking about. He's talking about the evil one. Because something that's fascinating in Ephesians 6, which he's later going to say is, it's your struggle's not against flesh and blood. But we generally think that you think about all the problems on this earth. It's usually person to person. It's his people. We think, oh, that's a struggle. That old boy, he don't like me. He did me wrong, I tell you. But there's a bigger picture going on, you know, I mean, that's what the Bible just said. I read it and you get the idea that there's two kingdoms here. The one of the air, who. How does he work? Verse 3. All of us lived among them at one time, gratifying the cravings of our sinful flesh and following the desires and thoughts. And then it says what you get as a result of that, like the rest, we were by nature objects of wrath. And then you get into the. But because of his great love. Well, the only time he mentioned mentions God's kingdom in Ephesians is. Is in chapter five, which I think is Kind of setting up this spiritual war, you guys, you got the evil one's kingdom out there. And he described what's going on. We've all been there. And then in five he says, be imitators of God as dearly loved children and live a life of love just as Christ loved us. And then he says, but among you there must not even be a hint. This is kind of the stuff you were talking about of sexual immorality or of any kind of impurity or of greed, because these are improper for God's holy people. Nor should there be obscenity, foolish talk. And he goes through a whole list of things and then verse 5 of 5, which is where I want to get to be sure of this. No immoral, impure or greedy person, such a man as an idolater. Because now you're worshiping something other than the one true living God has any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ. So he really sets out the battle, getting to the battle of the two kingdoms and you have a choice. So I think from your perspective, when people say, well, can I lose my salvation? I don't think from God. He's done everything that he can do and should do to take care of any kind of problem. And many times Jesus said, no one can snatch them from my hand. But I think it comes down to a question and it's pretty obvious. Are you, do you believe that Jesus Christ is the son of the living God? Because when that is a reality, people see that in your life and you know, the evil one is saying, just like when he took Jesus and tempted himself, he was trying to challenge his belief system. Are you going to serve the God and Father who wrote this, which is why Jesus quoted the passages, or do you want to come to my kingdom, which is all pretty much earthly based.
Chad Wright
Well, that's why the, the word respect I think is a good term to use because I've actually, I know what you're hitting on, Chad. And I've had this conversation this week about a certain topic where somebody was concerned that someone had brought a demonic spirit into a small group and that had imparted almost like this demon on somebody else just by their very presence. And the other person was a spirit filled believer. And I'm like, no, like, like we're not, like it's not a virus that we're like, you're living in fear. Like we're not walking around and someone's going to throw a demon on you. Like if you have the Holy Spirit living in you, like you are a child of God. You are like you are in his hand. And now you may. You want to invite a demon in, that's a different discussion. But I'm. But you're, you're. No one's going to throw a demon on top of you. Are demons real? Yes. Is the demonic world real? Yes. But we, we shouldn't over, over realize this. There is a tension here. And I was reminded of this quote, I just looked it up from one of my favorite books called the screwtape letters by C.S. lewis, where he kind of paints this really incredible picture of what kind of spiritual warfare looks like because it's this. The book is about like a head demon with his protege demon and he's coaching him on how he's going to go after the soul of this individual guy. And one of the things that Lewis writes in the book, he says there are two equal and opposite errors into which our race can fall about the devils. One is to disbelieve in their existence. The other is to believe and to feel an excessive and unhealthy interest in them. Yes, they themselves are equally pleased by both errors. And hail a materialist or a magician with the same delight. The idea is, is that like you mentioned, like some people make a living off this, like, like conjuring up these fears and like that we have to rest in the fact that we do serve a God who has a kingdom that cannot be shaken and will not be destroyed. Daniel, chapter seven. Right. And it goes to the entire New Testament. We belong to the kingdom of God. We, the Holy Spirit lives in the bodies of humans. So we don't have to fear, but we do need to respect. So I think that's the tension we're trying to hold. So our friends over at Tomorrow Clubs are reminding us that more than a billion children in the world have never heard about Jesus Christ. And that feels overwhelming. But God's got a plan. And Jesus told his followers to go and make disciples of all nations. So this summer, Tomorrow Clubs is hoping to bring Christ centered summer camps to 30 communities around the world alone. You met Jesus at a summer camp, am I right?
Phil Robertson
No doubt. And you know, the people that invested into my life, I think about an old preacher that you lived up the street, your mom getting me to that camp. I mean the people that invested in my young life are the reason that I have faith today. There's no doubt about it.
Chad Wright
So we really do believe in Christian summer camps and Tomorrow Clubs. Summer camps are more than just a fun experience though. They're a powerful launching point for long term discipleship. Many children meet Jesus for the first time and at a camp. And they continue to grow in their faith through the local Tomorrow Clubs. I want to tell you about Ksenia, who fled the war in Ukraine twice carrying the weight of fear, grief and the loss of a very close friend. Last summer she attended a Tomorrow Clubs camp and met Jesus for the very first time. That moment changed everything. Today, Ksenia is a leader. She's sharing the hope of Jesus Christ with others. Summer camps are the primary way that Tomorrow Clubs are introduced into new communities, often in some of the most overlooked and underserved places in the world. That's why we're inviting Unashamed Nation to bring Christ centered discipleship to 3,000 kids this summer through 30 Bible camps around the globe. Here's what you can do. Just $1,000 is enough to sponsor a full five day camp in an underserved community. Let's help this incredible ministry bring the gospel to 3,000 kids in some of the hardest to reach places on Earth. Visit tomorrowclubs.org 30camps or simply text 30camps to 44321. To give today.
Jase Robertson
I think so, because look, I skipped over chapter four. But he had just said, put on the new self and take off the old self. That's in 4:22. You remember that. But then he starts talking about loving your neighbor. And in your anger don't sin and don't let the sun go down when you're angry. And then this curious verse in 27 says, and don't give the devil a foothold. And I think you know, as us being cleansed by the blood of Jesus. And we're out there representing him. We're imagining him in this world. There's always a temptation for him to want to take you down. I mean, I know y' all do all the wrestling and all. I don't know. Is there some kind of foothold that can and make you tap?
Joe
Oh, yeah, there's all kinds of them.
Chad Robichaux
You know what that is? It's that little thing you got sitting on the corner of the table right there. For 90% of people.
Jase Robertson
Yeah, that's that daggone foot.
Chad Robichaux
That's that foothold that's liable to make you tap.
Jase Robertson
I only use that for phone calls and sports and weather.
Joe
The black box.
Chad Wright
Yeah, I can't see. I'm assuming you're talking about a cell phone, Chad. Is that what it is?
Joe
That's what Phil calls the black box.
Chad Robichaux
I noticed this the other day. Just. I'll share a little Part of recently, obviously I'm connected in the fitness world and a lot of the pages and stuff on Instagram are fitness pages. Right. And by the standards of the world, it is not wrong for a female athlete to post these pictures of themselves that really don't leave much left for the imagination. I mean, if you follow fitness content, you are going to see some stuff from female athletes. And I'm a man and I like women. And by the standards of the world, that's not an issue. But just to talk about how something like that gives the devil a foothold, as I scroll through Instagram, I realized I was seeing these, these photos of these female athletes and by the world standard, there's nothing wrong with it. And I realized I liked it. Yeah, I mean, you know, you hit one and then you see the little dots across the bottom and you're like, oh, she posted a bunch of pictures. Let me swipe through these real quick. But then what ends up happening? If you don't nip that in the butt, what ends up happening? You go out into public and a glance becomes a gaze in real life, right? And then what ends up, it progresses.
Jase Robertson
From there and then it becomes a distraction in what you're supposed to be doing. Because all these little things here is like when he says, don't steal, and we're thinking, oh, I don't need to steal. That wasn't his point. He said, don't steal. You need to work so that you can share. Because that's imaging God is sharing. That's the whole point. It's just like this imaging God. We're supposed to be sharing Jesus with men and women, you know? Well, if you're spending all your time just looking at what she looks like, it's a complete waste of time and will captivate.
Chad Wright
Well, not only that, just not only that, Chad, you run that out a little bit further and, and then you have an encounter and you meet the, the woman in real life that you're, that you're checking out and then you run a little bit further and, and maybe you meet up for coffee. You run it a little bit further. You're having an affair. You run it a little bit further. And now you're looking at your, your 8 year old son who's devastated that mommy and dad are getting a divorce. And all of a sudden, if you can fast forward that in your mind, I think that's what the saints are saying.
Jase Robertson
There was a couple things that helped me with the cell phone. I'm glad you brought it up. One is I saw how much my kids struggle with finding their way to Jesus because of the distraction of the phone. But. But another thing is there was a guy I was fixed to baptize who just gave a tearful confession that Jesus going to be the Lord of his life. That's it. He's done, you know, And I noticed he had his phone in his back pocket. I said, well, you might want to take that out before I baptize you. And he started to do it. And he said, you know what? You need to go ahead and baptize that too. Because that has been one of the most contributing factors of me not coming to the Lord sooner. And that Gilman, if he didn't do it, you know, praise the Lord for that man. Well, it was just something that really touched me, you know, I thought, you know, he's recognizing right here in this moment, we're putting it all to death. And I thought that was a noble thing. Al, I know we don't have much time, but I wanted you. You shared a story that we've shared here before from your past in your sermon about New Orleans and your life. And you told that story about Phil. I think you should tell that. I think it would culminate this.
Phil Robertson
Well, two things to set that up. One is when you think about the armor of God, it starts off by saying, it's God's armor. It's not ours, so the power is his. You know, it says, be strong in the Lord and his mighty armor and his mighty power. So it's his. And I made the point about standing and first surrendering, because that's what we have to do. If the. If the armor is God's, then I have to surrender to put it on. And Chad, I made the point that when you stone did the same thing, when you raised your right hand, you surrendered your rights as a US Citizen to be then a warrior for the United States government to defend the Constitution. And then they took you and trained you to do that. And so you surrender because you saw the evils that face our country. And so in us. And it's not a perfect analogy, but in some ways we do the same thing. We raise our right hand and say we believe that Jesus Christ is the son of God and we're all in the kingdom of God, and therefore we go all in to do it. And so I made the point about taking your stand, which is how he starts. He says three times to stand. And if you think about it, Zach talked earlier about Exodus 3, when Moses found that burning Bush. The bush told him to take off his shoes because he was standing on holy ground. And the reason that ground was holy was not because it was out in the desert somewhere and there was a bush on fire. It's because the presence of God was there. And so anytime we stand with the Holy Spirit of God living in us, that's holy ground. And so I made the point that when I was a prodigal, I left New Orleans literally with my tail between my legs and scared to death because the Eve one had almost taken my life. And I never wanted to go back there. But wouldn't you know it, two years late, less than two years later, we were going back to New Orleans. But this time I was going with my dad and doing a duck call demonstration. And I was afraid. I was like. I was afraid I'd run into some old running buddies and all this stuff. I was young. I just gotten married. And when we walked into that Superdome, and we mentioned this on a past podcast, when dad stood up and declared, I mean, he was sharing his faith in a public setting, which was the duck call setting, he talked about the Lord Jesus, I was just filled and inspired because I realized that my dad was standing on holy ground in that same place that I had given away so much of my spiritual wealth, mouth to the evil one. And I watched the Holy Spirit of God work through him in that moment. And I knew then I was like, I will never turn back from the Almighty. And that's what happens when we go on offense. So I love that. The armor. Every one of those is three sets of three when you look at it. And all three of them start with a defensive posture, whether it's, you know, the truth, you know, the belt of truth, the, you know, the faith that distinguish extinguishes these arrows and prayer. But they all end on offense. With us going out with the gospel, with us having the word of truth that divides good from evil, and also praying that we can declare fearlessly. And so every one of us have the defensive stand of God, but we have the offensive ability to share that. So that was kind of my whole thing, but I couldn't help.
Jase Robertson
It was fantastic. Al and the famous line that Phil gave, because you got to remember he was a raging alcoholic. In his past life, Al had had about lost his life, dabbled in it. Yeah, yeah. In New Orleans. And so this whole event, it wasn't a church event. It was in the Superdome. And the sponsor was Budweiser, and it was a. They had a banner. My dad was Speaking right in front of the banner that said Budweiser, the king of Beers. And so everybody's drinking. I'm pretty sure you and Phil were the only sober people there. You know, if not, it was a small percentage. And it was that moment that you told in the story when Phil reached and grabbed his Bible after the duck call thing. They were all. Everybody was cheering, drinking beer.
Chad Wright
It's all fun and games.
Jase Robertson
It was all fun and games. And my dad had that moment of clarity. You described it real well, Al, where it's like, should I do this or not? And he picked that Bible up and he said, yep, you see this behind me? Budweiser, king of Beers. He said, I've drank a many one. He said, but I need to do you right as a fellow human and tell you about the King of Kings. And that was to me, in that moment. He drew a line early on for our family that no matter where we're going to be, this is. This is spiritual warfare. These people are going to die and they're going to be lost for eternity. And over what, a few beers and just having fun.
Joe
Well, I got to say this. I've been around Chad a couple times and. And listen to him speak and watch him operate. I always thought, you know, he kind of reminds me of a young Phil.
Jase Robertson
Yeah.
Joe
But he confirmed it during the. During the squirrel hunt. Okay. So he's got his crew. Crew with him. Great guys. And we got on that first squirrel, and they let that squirrel get away without killing it. And he chewed their tail just like Phil Robertson would chew our tail when we let him out or Drake get out of the hole.
Jase Robertson
Yeah.
Joe
And I thought, boy, that's.
Chad Wright
That's funny.
Jase Robertson
Yeah.
Chad Wright
I said the same. Hey, Chad, what I tell you when I came down to Rome, Georgia, I told you the same exact thing, didn't I?
Chad Robichaux
Well, I tell you that I appreciate that. I don't accept it, because I'm going to tell you, Phil, man, there's not words that can express how thankful I am for, feel for Phil. Even though I've never met him, he has been such an impactful force in my life and just a steady, calm voice of truth, man. And I've gotten so much from that man. And I've never met him, never will meet him.
Jase Robertson
Well, you'll meet him one day.
Chad Robichaux
Well, I'll meet him one day apart from this earth. But I'm going to tell you. Yeah, I mean, I don't accept that compliment because I look at him as.
Phil Robertson
Like, you know, look, Chad, you realize when it comes from us, it's heartfelt because you know how dad is our patriarch as well, so.
Joe
Yeah, man.
Phil Robertson
What a great testimony that you are. I can't believe we're out of time, but we are. We're actually over time, but we invite you anytime you're in town. We love chatting with you. You are a warrior for the kingdom first and foremost, but you're also a warrior in terms of everything you've done in your life. So we appreciate what you do. You're always welcome here. Check him out. Just. Just Google Chad Wright. It's two Ds, Chad, and you will find some amazing content.
Chad Robichaux
You don't worry about all that, Al. I just want to encourage every one of my brothers and sisters out there to today reflect upon what Jesus Christ said on the cross right before he gave up the ghost. It is. Is finished, man. It is finished. We're talking about the spiritual warfare, all this stuff. Look, reflect upon that. It is finished. Praise the Lord for that, man.
Jase Robertson
Yeah, that's a great.
Phil Robertson
That's a great final word. Thank you, Chad. Thank you for being on. Thank you, Stone. Thanks for listening to the Unashamed podcast. Help us out by leaving a rating and review on Apple podcast. And don't miss an episode by subscribing on YouTube. And be sure to click the little bell and choose all notifications to watch every episode.
Podcast Summary: Ep 1089 | A Navy SEAL’s Guide to Fighting Demons, Distraction & Spiritual Decay
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In Episode 1089 of "Unashamed with the Robertson Family," host Jase Robertson, along with Phil Robertson, Al Robertson, Joe, and Chad Wright, delve deep into the themes of spiritual warfare, the impact of distractions on faith, and maintaining spiritual and physical discipline. The episode features a special guest, Chad Robichaux, a Navy SEAL, who shares his unique perspective on combating spiritual decay alongside his military experiences.
The episode begins with the Robertson family welcoming their guest, Chad Robichaux, playfully referring to him being "called up to the bigs from duck call room." The hosts humorously discuss the differences between their usual "unashamed" setup and Chad's more disciplined military background. They touch upon Chad's experience in Navy Team 2 and his involvement in jiu-jitsu, highlighting the blend of physical and spiritual disciplines.
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Chad shares his recent experiences with "hell week" in SEAL training, emphasizing the rigorous challenges faced during a tough hunting expedition. The conversation seamlessly transitions into spiritual lessons drawn from these experiences. Jase recounts a story about a smoking issue with meat, metaphorically linking it to avoiding temptations and trusting in God's guidance.
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The discussion highlights the importance of discipline, trust, and perseverance both in military and spiritual contexts. Chad emphasizes the interconnectedness of physical health and spiritual well-being, urging listeners to maintain a balanced lifestyle to better serve as ambassadors for Christ.
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The conversation delves into the concept of spiritual warfare, referencing Ephesians 6 and Romans 12. Chad discusses the battle between the "remnant of the old man" and the sanctifying work of the Holy Spirit, underscoring the daily struggle to put away sinful tendencies. He reassures listeners that Satan cannot usurp the work of salvation done in believers.
Jase and Phil expand on these themes, sharing personal stories of overcoming addictions and the transformative power of faith. Phil recounts a pivotal moment in New Orleans where he publicly declared his faith amidst challenging circumstances, illustrating the victory of spiritual discipline over worldly temptations.
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Jase references 1 Thessalonians 5:23, emphasizing the holistic preservation of spirit, soul, and body, and how maintaining physical health contributes to spiritual effectiveness.
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Al Robertson introduces the topic of modern distractions, particularly the pervasive use of cell phones. The hosts discuss how seemingly innocuous habits can become significant spiritual "footholds" for the devil. Joe shares a personal testimony about losing weight motivated by health concerns, linking physical wellness to spiritual vigilance.
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Jase shares a moving story about a convert who chose to remove his phone from his pocket before baptism, recognizing it as a barrier to fully embracing faith. This act symbolizes the deliberate removal of distractions to prioritize spiritual growth.
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As the episode wraps up, Phil shares a heartfelt testimony about his transformation and the role of the Holy Spirit in overcoming past struggles. The hosts reiterate the importance of standing firm in faith, using the "armor of God" as a metaphor for spiritual preparedness and offensive evangelism.
Chad Robichaux leaves listeners with a powerful reminder of Jesus Christ's victory, urging them to reflect on His declaration, "It is finished," emphasizing the completion of God's redemptive work.
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Episode 1089 of "Unashamed with the Robertson Family" offers a profound exploration of spiritual warfare, highlighting the necessity of balancing physical health with spiritual discipline. Through personal testimonies and scriptural references, the hosts and their guest Chad Robichaux inspire listeners to remain steadfast in faith, resist distractions, and actively engage in the battle against spiritual decay. The episode underscores the belief that with God's armor and discipline, believers can thrive both spiritually and physically, effectively serving as ambassadors for Christ in a world filled with challenges.
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This comprehensive summary captures the essence of Episode 1089, providing valuable insights into fighting spiritual demons, avoiding distractions, and maintaining a resilient faith. Whether you're a new believer or a longtime follower, the Robertson family's candid discussions offer practical and spiritual guidance to navigate the complexities of modern life.