Ep 1143 | Jase Suffers an Injury from Missy’s Cast Iron Skillet & Jesus Makes the Broken Whole

Summary

Unashamed with the Robertson Family - Episode 1143 Summary

Episode Title: Jase Goes Bottom up in an Alpine River & God Doesn’t Need Us—He Wants Us
Release Date: August 13, 2025

In Episode 1143 of "Unashamed with the Robertson Family," host Jase Robertson shares a compelling blend of personal anecdotes and deep theological insights, intertwining his recent experiences with profound Scripture reflections. The episode, featuring Phil Robertson and guest Zach Dasher, delves into themes of faith, humility, and the unwavering love of God.

1. A Refreshing Break and Unexpected Adventures [00:01 – 03:35]

The episode begins with the Robertson family expressing their refreshed state after taking a week off from their usual podcast routine. Jase recounts his recent trip to Colorado Springs and Philadelphia, highlighting the picturesque landscapes and friendly interactions.

Notable Quote:

• Jase Robertson [00:01]: "I am unashamed. What about you?"

2. Treasure Hunting in Philadelphia [03:35 – 16:42]

Jase narrates his adventurous pursuit of treasure during his time in Philadelphia. Partnering with local friend Trent and utilizing a metal detector from Garrett, he uncovers several historical artifacts, including rare coins and vintage items.

Key Highlights:

• Discovery of a rare 1797 large cent coin, which elicited excitement and nostalgia.
• Interaction with local treasure hunters who assisted in digging and identified his finds.
• The sentimental value of uncovering items that connect to the past, fostering a sense of community and shared history.

Notable Quote:

• Jase Robertson [15:38]: "That large scent, the second edition. Because it's a rare coin, it's in good condition. Of course."

3. A Back Injury and Familial Support [16:42 – 22:02]

The narrative takes a turn when Jase experiences a back injury while handling his heavy luggage. Despite the pain, his wife Missy's preparedness with a versatile black iron skillet becomes a testament to their commitment to serving others.

Key Highlights:

• Missy's role in cooking for the group, ensuring everyone was fed despite the challenging circumstances.
• The significance of her bringing a black iron skillet, symbolizing strength and resilience in providing for the family and guests.
• The family's ability to adapt and create a warm, hospitable environment even when plans go awry.

Notable Quote:

• Jase Robertson [21:04]: "These meals that were rolled out every night were... it was a night by the fire. There was no going out to eat and all that. I mean, that woman came there to serve."

4. Connecting Personal Experiences to Scripture [22:02 – 35:17]

Transitioning from his personal stories, Jase and Phil engage in a theological discussion about the mission of Jesus, drawing parallels between Jase's experiences and Biblical teachings. They explore passages from Isaiah 40, John 13, and Revelation, emphasizing Jesus' purpose to bring life and demonstrate unconditional love.

Key Highlights:

• Isaiah 40: "He gives strength to the weary and increases the power of the weak" ([05:11] Jase).
• John 13: Jesus washing the disciples' feet as an example of humility and service ([31:07] Jase).
• Revelation & Acts 17: Discussing Jesus' ongoing pursuit of humanity and the nature of God's love.

Notable Quotes:

• Jase Robertson [31:07]: "Do you understand why he came? And he's like, do you understand what I've done for you?"
• Phil Robertson [32:55]: "That's exactly what you're seeing here. Jesus described... he is the great I am, He's a part of the creative process."

5. The Nature of Jesus' Mission and Human Understanding [35:17 – 56:58]

The conversation deepens as they examine why Jesus came to the world, contrasting common misconceptions of condemnation with the truth of His mission to save and uplift humanity. They discuss Peter's initial resistance to Jesus' acts of service and how maturity in faith leads to a deeper appreciation of Jesus' intentions.

Key Highlights:

• Peter's Misunderstanding: Initially resisting Jesus washing his feet, symbolizing a struggle with humility ([40:52] Zach).
• God’s Self-Sufficiency: Emphasizing that God does not need human praise or service, but created humanity out of love ([46:02] Zach).
• Practical Applications: Encouraging listeners to seek understanding of God's will and recognize His pursuit of each individual ([54:33] Jase).

Notable Quotes:

• Zach Dasher [40:52]: "God does not need man. He is not served by human hands as if he needed anything because he gives all men life and breath."
• Phil Robertson [51:06]: "Sometimes you're like, man, how do I keep missing it? But look, Peter did too. And he was literally the right hand of Jesus."

6. Final Reflections and Call to Action [56:00 – End]

As the episode nears its conclusion, the Robertson family ties together the day's lessons, reinforcing the importance of love, service, and understanding God's purpose. They encourage listeners to embrace humility and recognize the divine love that pursues each person.

Key Highlights:

• Romans 12 & 13: Linking love with God's will and encouraging actions that reflect His teachings.
• Personal Commitment: Jase reflects on his and his family's dedication to living out these principles in daily life.

Notable Quote:

• Phil Robertson [56:10]: "We're telling listeners to embrace love and serve others as an expression of God's will."

Conclusion

Episode 1143 of "Unashamed with the Robertson Family" masterfully intertwines personal storytelling with deep theological exploration. Through Jase's adventurous tales and the family's reflections on Scripture, listeners are invited to contemplate the true nature of Jesus' mission and the profound love that underpins their faith. The episode serves as a heartfelt reminder of the importance of humility, service, and unwavering trust in God's purposeful love.

Transcript

[Jase Robertson]

I am unashamed. What about you?

[Phil Robertson]

Welcome back to Unashamed. We are refreshed.

[Jase Robertson]

I think so.

[Zach Dasher]

I think we get. Yeah, we're refreshed.

[Phil Robertson]

We took a week off to. So when you're listed, you have no idea because you're the system. One podcast rolls into the next, you don't know what we're doing. But we actually took a little time away.

[Jase Robertson]

Jason, I've been humming that song. You know, I've been to Phoenix, Alabama. I've been everywh.

[Phil Robertson]

That's what I used to say when.

[Jase Robertson]

I started that song.

[Phil Robertson]

That's Johnny Cash.

[Jase Robertson]

Yeah, that's Johnny Cash. I went to Colorado Springs is 80 degrees and at night, Jason, Locally, they.

[Phil Robertson]

Call it the Springs.

[Zach Dasher]

Yeah.

[Phil Robertson]

Yeah. It's a beautiful place.

[Jase Robertson]

We had a little mini vacation and we got some good friends there.

[Phil Robertson]

The Lang offers we've had.

[Jase Robertson]

We've had Trent on the podcast, and.

[Phil Robertson]

He used to be our pastor here at wfr. Great young man.

[Jase Robertson]

Me and Reed played a. A golf course there called the Kissing Camels. And so I was. While I was playing, I was looking, kissing. Oh, this place was spectacular.

[Phil Robertson]

I played one out there called the Iron Horse, but I never played the Kissing Camel.

[Jase Robertson]

I thought, okay, kissing. I kept looking for two.

[Phil Robertson]

Did it have, like, some humps out there?

[Jase Robertson]

I kept looking, I thought, where are the camels? Place was spectacular.

[Phil Robertson]

Did you go to Garden of the Gods?

[Jase Robertson]

Well, we were. It's right across from the Garden of the Gods. And I. I had a lot of awkward conversations with people, like, from the Uber drivers to shuttles, talking about, look, there's actually one God. He's.

[Phil Robertson]

That. It is Little G. It's not Big.

[Jase Robertson]

G at this stage of my life, because every time I'd pass the sign, say, the Garden of the Gods, I said, what does that mean to. That was my conversation. And they're like, well, I really don't.

[Phil Robertson]

Know what it's always.

[Jase Robertson]

Then I would ask, and where are these kissing Camels at? What was there one day back in the prehistoric time of man that we saw two kissing camels up here? I'm pretty sure it's probably some part of the mountains, because a couple of the places you tee off, the elevation was just so hot. You're just. You're teeing off into. It felt like the abyss.

[Phil Robertson]

Yeah.

[Jase Robertson]

And what I noticed there, if you want to feel better about your game, the elevation there next, the ball go further, way further. And I bet your boys, instead of being mad about every time I flew the green and all, I'm Like, I just hit that nine iron, 185 yards.

[Zach Dasher]

How far do you.

[Phil Robertson]

Felt like a pro? Not that it's at about 150, probably.

[Jase Robertson]

No.

[Zach Dasher]

Oh, you get an extra 40 yards out of.

[Jase Robertson]

Well, it just depends on the win. Those. Those guys, they rolled out the red carpet for us, and so I'll give them a shout out if you ever want to, you know, play a really nice course. They have 27 holes and so kind of like Peninsula. Yeah, yeah, we played it two days, different nines. It was. It was fantastic. But most of the time. You know what's funny? I mean, I'll tell you this story in all seriousness. So, I mean, you're going on vacation, and I have my golf clubs, and I had to go from Colorado Springs while I did an event in Philadelphia. Remember, I did a little promo about that.

[Phil Robertson]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Jase Robertson]

And I'm so mad because I was gonna. I was gonna read that. Is that Isaiah 41 about.

[Phil Robertson]

We're gonna wind up in Isaiah 41. Yeah.

[Jase Robertson]

There's in our text, the soaring on the wings of eagles. Or is that 40? Yeah, I think it's 40. We need that. Is that 40? L. I had. Look, I had this whole.

[Phil Robertson]

Yeah, 4031 is.

[Zach Dasher]

It's also an exodus.

[Jase Robertson]

1931. I mean, it. It is a spectacular passage and.

[Phil Robertson]

Oh, no, we're in Psalm. Psalm 41. I had the wrong tape.

[Jase Robertson]

Let's fix this. Yeah, yeah.

[Phil Robertson]

Jesus. Jesus quoted Psalm 41.

[Jase Robertson]

So.

[Phil Robertson]

Yeah, they will soar on wings like eagles. They were.

[Zach Dasher]

Hold on.

[Jase Robertson]

Where are we at?

[Zach Dasher]

Isaiah 41.

[Jase Robertson]

No, Isaiah.

[Phil Robertson]

This is 40. They were sore.

[Zach Dasher]

Y' all got me excited because I'm actually preaching on Exodus on Sunday. You know, that's in the Exodus 19 text as well.

[Jase Robertson]

Well, listen to this. This was going to be my opening line when I got to the event in Philadelphia. Yeah, because it says in Isaiah 40.

[Phil Robertson]

I know where you're going.

[Jase Robertson]

Oh, I was going to get the crowd.

[Phil Robertson]

I know where you're going.

[Jase Robertson]

40, 28. It says. Do you not know? Have you not heard? The Lord is the everlasting God, the Creator of the ends of the earth. You want to talk about the garden of the gods? He will not grow tired or weary. And his understanding no one can fathom. He gives strength to the weary and increases the power of the weak. Even ewes grow tired and weary. This is going to become a theme to the story I'm fixing to tell you. And young men watch this close stumble and fall.

[Phil Robertson]

Jason, you're not a young man, but Though.

[Jase Robertson]

Oh, I'm young now. It's all relative, you get me.

[Phil Robertson]

I know where you're going.

[Jase Robertson]

To blind with, you know, my dad over the last few years and people like Burley. I look like a young whippersnapper inside.

[Phil Robertson]

Yep.

[Jase Robertson]

But those who hope in the Lord will renew their strength. They were sore on wings and I was going to get the whole crowd to say, like eagles because I was in Philadelphia.

[Phil Robertson]

Fly, eagles, fly.

[Jase Robertson]

I'm doing this because I didn't do this. When I got up to speak, there were so many people and I was so overwhelmed by how many people. You just lost your whole opening, lost the whole thing. And Holy Spirit took over. It wasn't. Isaiah 40 wasn't a part of it. So I'm giving it to them now who are listening because I made a lot of good friends. But they will soar because you get it. Philadelphia.

[Phil Robertson]

Yeah. Wings like eagles.

[Jase Robertson]

They won the Super Bowl. I was going to tell you. You, you want a Super Bowl? How about us gathering up to live.

[Phil Robertson]

Eternally and fly, Fly away.

[Jase Robertson]

Oh, you want to fly like an eagle? How about with a new, imperishable immortal body? I had it all ready to go.

[Phil Robertson]

And it never came out of my failure to launch.

[Jase Robertson]

So they will soar on wings like eagles. They will run and not go weary. And they will walk and not be faint. So I had the perfect setup and I'm gonna tell you where this started. It started at a checkout, or not a checkout, check in counter at an airport in Monroe, Louisiana, right here. So I, yeah, we're going on a little four day vacation. But look, I have to pack to go for four or five days to Colorado. Well, then I'm going to go to Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, where I'm not playing golf. So I have golf clubs. And when I'm in Philadelphia, since it's logistically impossible to get from Colorado Springs to Philadelphia in one day, like if you start late in the day. I looked at my schedule. Look, my assistant, who I love, and she does great.

[Phil Robertson]

I hope she doesn't listen to this podcast.

[Jase Robertson]

That's fine. It was not her fault. I'll tell you what happened. She's like, well, I have you leaving Thursday night at 10 o'. Clock. You will arrive Friday morning at night.

[Phil Robertson]

They call that the red eye.

[Jase Robertson]

Then you will go treasure hunting. Because these people had said, look, you're going to be in Philadelphia. We have some property that has never been treasure hunted. And I get these requests all the time. But there was something about this paragraph that I thought I think this sounds legit. So I said, this is the former.

[Phil Robertson]

Capital of the United States of America.

[Jase Robertson]

Oh, yeah?

[Phil Robertson]

Yeah.

[Jase Robertson]

And there's a place right next to Philadelphia called. A little place called Washington's Crossing. We're talking about George Washington. He crossed the Delaware River.

[Phil Robertson]

Yeah.

[Jase Robertson]

The Brits were chasing him or whatever.

[Phil Robertson]

Oh yeah.

[Jase Robertson]

And this family who owns a butcher shop, I'm like, little family business, you know, called the. They're called the Ely's, but it's spelled E L Y Y. Wouldn't that be Eli? And he said, no, it's Ely. And so if you're in that area, it was the finest cuisine of meats I've ever participated in. So y' all need to rush. I don't know where exactly it is, but go to somewhere around Washington Crossing and there's a butcher shop with meats and cheeses that is absolutely out of this world, I think. And look, it's a. They're all. All their family works there. Reminded me, look, I got chill bumps just looking around people working. Cuz I thought this reminds me of being a teenager with a family business. Yeah, the nicest.

[Phil Robertson]

The only thing we didn't have was a butcher shop. We had a fishing enterprise.

[Jase Robertson]

God loving, Jesus focused. First thing they did was pray for me, you know, for the event I was going to do that night. And so I know I'm telling five stories at one time here, but that's never happened. And look, so this guy, he's like, I have this place not far from here that he owned that had these foundations and all in the woods. And that's where I was going to go hunting. Had never been hunted. I was like, well, don't tell anybody about it. But while I'm getting all my stuff ready in which look.

[Phil Robertson]

So did you have to take metal detecting stuff?

[Jase Robertson]

Well, I had my basics, but I didn't have my big detector. And so I reached out to Garrett, who we've been in cahoots for years. And I have. They sell a metal detector with my name on it that I love.

[Phil Robertson]

Right.

[Jase Robertson]

And I call them up. I was like, is it possible for you all to send me a detector in a box there? I mean, because I'm like, people are going to take pictures. And I was trying to sell the idea that, look, I want to use your detector, but I can't.

[Phil Robertson]

Zach, you take a notes how to sell these.

[Jase Robertson]

They did that. Which was so kind of them because I said, you know, I'll probably wind up giving it to them or whatever.

[Phil Robertson]

Sign it gives them.

[Jase Robertson]

So they did, you know, and because I thought they were all metal detectors, I thought, no, I went metal detecting and they just followed me around and dug the holes for me because the only thing I didn't have was a shovel. I got, I looked around, I was.

[Phil Robertson]

Like, now these are the meats people.

[Jase Robertson]

The meets people, their whole family and friends. They were just, I'm telling you, the salt of the earth forever family. I love, I fell in love with these people.

[Phil Robertson]

So you guys ready for some good news? We like good news on this podcast, don't we, Jase?

[Jase Robertson]

Yeah.

[Phil Robertson]

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[Jase Robertson]

Look, the first thing I dig up significant, I dug up two modern coins, but I look like a genius because I they were on top of the ground and my machine goes off. I said, there's a modern quarter. And he was like, you think? I said, oh, it's a modern quarter. So I dug it up, this modern quarter and it had a bullet. You could tell someone shot the quarter. Well, these two boys who are now, I would guess late 20s, they said when we were kids we would throw up coins and shoot them with a BB gun or 22 I was like, you sound like my kind of people. And I found one. So then it got nostalgic because now I found something, part of their history when they were kids, you know. And so I walked a few steps and I said, well, here's a modern dime. And guess what? It had a bullet. I was like, y' all must be pretty good shots if you're hitting dimes and quarters in midair. So look, then I got a signal. They had a trampoline.

[Phil Robertson]

I feel if I.

[Jase Robertson]

If.

[Phil Robertson]

Here's the. What would Phil say, Jase? There's hope for America. I mean, Philadelphia, they're shooting dimes. They're shooting grinding.

[Jase Robertson]

And I only had three hours to hunt because I had this huge event and I hadn't slept much and I was like, I need to take a one hour nap and then we'll go to the event. But we're going to hunt for three hours. Well, then I get a signal on this trampoline. I thought I was picking up part of the trampoline. It's in their yard, small yard, because the house was built in 1800. I'm like, forget this place in the woods. This place was built in the year 1800. So I get a signal and I said, now, I don't know what this is, but it sounds good. But I may be picking up the trampoline. So I dig this hole. As soon as I saw the coin, and it was a copper coin, but it was big. I just immediately went into. It was like we were filming for Duck Family Treasure. I took off running, hollering. I didn't even know what it was. Thought it was a King George from Europe because that's what it kind of looked like. And they were like. Because I didn't realize, you know, everybody's watching me and they're like, what is it? And I said, I don't know. I said, but the fact that I don't know is exciting. Exciting because I know it's old and it was real deep, you know. So I lightly took. I said, has anybody got a stick? Because you can't. They're like, rub on it. I was like, no, no, no, no, no water. No. I was like, it's a copper coin. I don't know what it is. And so I lightly cleaned it. And the first thing I saw was 1797. And, oh, here's another surge. And they're like, what is it? I said, I don't know. But it says 1797. And it's unusual. It turns out we had found through the Years, large scents that started, I think around 1800. Well, this was a second edition large scent. They only made them for 10 years. So it was like before the large. That was a penny, but it's huge. But this had a different shape, different look. Lady Liberty is on it, but it has Liberty on it. I was like, look, Liberty and. And quite rare and worth some money. And this was in way better shape than any of them you've ever seen. And I just went nuts. And I found a lot of other stuff after that. I found.

[Phil Robertson]

Is that your best find?

[Jase Robertson]

That was the best find. And look, I found a Masonite buckle from a pair of suspenders from the early 1800s that was also valuable. I found a silver dime from 1890, only hunted three hours. I found a flat button with writing on it from the 1820s. It was a civilian button, but still.

[Zach Dasher]

What was the most valuable find?

[Jase Robertson]

Oh, that, that large scent, the second edition. Because it's a rare coin, it's in good condition. Of course. I gave all the stuff to them. I was so overwhelmed. And they were like, no, you keep some of that. Keep that coin. I was like, oh, no. I said, because number one, I want to come back. I said we hadn't got to the place. And so anyway, when I got back to the hotel, fixed to take my nap. Fixed to the event. I was kind of getting my bag in order and all. They put that coin in a box, had it wrapped up with a nice letter from the mom and like, this is your coin.

[Phil Robertson]

Oh, they sent it home.

[Jase Robertson]

I got all misty eyed because I made such a big deal of it, you know, and so it was fantastic. So to go back quickly to the other story, this all started at this check in at the airport. I have all my treasure hunting stuff, but which it's a lot of stuff, you know, my little side pouch bag and my pin pointer and I got batteries, I got my golf clubs. I've got clothes for a week. I have, you know, my other bag with my Bible and all this stuff. Well, when I put my golf bag up there, it weighed 44 pounds. This is everything I got. And I thought, that's pretty good. I was shocked. Yeah, well, missy who's not going to Philadelphia with me, she just has a suitcase. Well, when I reached and grabbed it to put it up on £62. No, when I went. But there's something that happened, a pain. When I made that one little move, my back felt like somebody shot me right in the lower back with a.22. And when it got on there Because I'm just wincing. She said, what's wrong? And I said, my back. And when that weight popped up there, I said, Yep, 66 pounds.

[Phil Robertson]

That was close.

[Jase Robertson]

And so I looked at her and I said, babe, the whole purpose of a vacation is to relax.

[Phil Robertson]

Oh, Jason.

[Jase Robertson]

I was going to play golf for two days at Kissing Camels, which I did anyway. But now I am now injured for the whole trip. And it was just getting your bag on this. And so you got to pay extra for that, too.

[Zach Dasher]

Over £50. You got to. You got a pony up.

[Jase Robertson]

It's another point that I didn't care about Zach because I thought I was dying. But now, when I walked out of the house this morning, do podcast Missy, final words before our pleasantries. Cause we've gotten through that now. She said, don't throw me under the bus. Cause now this is a happy ending. Because she knows how.

[Phil Robertson]

You know what we call that? Maddie. Too late.

[Zach Dasher]

Yeah.

[Jase Robertson]

So when we get to our little home that was awesome. Some kind of Airbnb, she's like, will you help me get my bag out? And I went, no, I'm not able. So Reed was there. You know, we had our little family. Reed was like, good grief. What do you got in there? I was like, it's 66 pounds. I was like, look at how much bigger my golf bag. So we. He gets the bag in there. Well, me and Reed started talking on the way I was escorting him. I'm like, reed, is this wrong that since I'm injured now, I want to see what's in this bag? Is that wrong for me to do that? And he's like, dad, I think you should. Well, when she. When Reed opened the bag, you know what the first thing that popped out to me was? There's a black iron skillet.

[Phil Robertson]

Maddie laughed out loud.

[Jase Robertson]

I'm talking a big black iron skillet. I was like, you packed a black iron skillet?

[Phil Robertson]

Now, look, she went to the K.

[Jase Robertson]

Robertson school of you might be a redneck.

[Zach Dasher]

Yeah, yeah, that's the old Jeff Fox. If you pack a black iron skillet.

[Jase Robertson]

In your luggage and appliances and all these kind of curlers for your hair, and there were spray bottles. And I'm like, how'd you get through security? You know? She's like, well, that's why I checked it. And so I thought, what is she doing? She's going crazy. Here's what I didn't realize, and this is why I'm not throwing her under the bus. I'm glad you're not realized that My wife plan to cook for this crew. And look, we had the Langhofers over. We had other.

[Phil Robertson]

It was because she had a kitchen.

[Jase Robertson]

It was a night by the fire. There was no going out to eat and all that. I mean, that woman came there to serve. And look, these meals that were rolled out every night were. Imagine cooking for 15 people every night on your vacation.

[Phil Robertson]

Yeah.

[Jase Robertson]

And I, you know, felt pretty bad. I couldn't do anything else because my back hurt and, and Reed strapped me in the golf because, you know, I'm like, every time I swung, you're a one handed man. So we only played those two days and I suffered. But I just thought, man, she, she cooked the whole time and I thought, you know what, I'm glad she brought that black iron skillet. I mean, we had to have it. It was an electric stove. These people, they don't know how to cook. We went to Colorado.

[Phil Robertson]

I agree.

[Jase Robertson]

And so that was the key piece. And I thought it was worth me going through this. Suff had an image of what Jesus went through. I thought, yeah, this woman came to serve. And so, so I had to be the sacrifice of getting it up on there so we could weigh it and pay our $100 whatever we had to pay for that. But it was, it made everybody feel better. It created the right atmosphere to be refreshed. And guess what? Right now, knock on this wood, my back feels wonderful.

[Phil Robertson]

You weren't limping when you came in.

[Jase Robertson]

Now the problem is the last day we were there re was like the night before. He's like, dad, you want to go trout fishing? I was like, we're in Colorado. This is what they do.

[Phil Robertson]

Yeah.

[Zach Dasher]

I spent $11 on one package of bacon. Have you ever heard of such nonsense?

[Jase Robertson]

I didn't realize bacon was that high.

[Zach Dasher]

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[Jase Robertson]

So he organized a little trout fishing because look, we had Reed and Brighton. Well, Brighton has three kids. Three, two and one. And just watching that in a four day period made me exhausted. Just watching her, I thought, these wonderful kids and she's got them in tip shop, tip top shape. But the fact that there are three. Yeah, I just man, this woman.

[Phil Robertson]

You realize why the Almighty made it where young people have young babies.

[Jase Robertson]

Exactly. I came in there one morning, she was cooking bacon, had had the little, was one on one hip, the other two were over there, you know, do. I just looked at her and I thought, you need some help? She's like, oh, I got it. I was like, no, you need, what can I do to help you? Because right now I just feel like you're a rock star. And so we were going to take her on a little trout fishing adventure because she had gone with us in Montana. And so me, her and Reed. Well, what I didn't realize, we had to drive about an hour. We walked a mile just to get to the stream and I was looking around like, are you sure you can walk them all? I mean, you know, she's, oh, I'm good and worse, no problem. So we get to the stream, it was awesome. We caught a couple fish. She hung about five, but we had to use real little flies to get them, get them to bite. So a lot of we hung a lot and had long fights, but we actually only landed about four. So at the end of it this, we had a guide and he's like, look, there's a little spot. You get about halfway into the creek and there's. See those rocks. I was like, yeah, well, when I got out there, I thought, oh, this current's a little stronger. I mean, it was so strong. I felt, like a little uncomfortable. And he's like, no, you keep going, keep going. But the further I got out there, the water got deeper. It was up to my belly button. That current was pushing against my legs. Then the wind started blowing because the storm was coming up. And I was like, you know, I'm not sure I cross this creek. I mean, because my legs were shaking a bit. And I thought. I said, this current pretty strong. He's like, yeah, it's strong. And watch your step. And so I finally pulled the plug. I was like, you know what? This is too strong. And so as I turned around to come back, I could see a rock under the water. I thought if I step on that rock, because I was losing my traction. I felt like I was just fixing to be blown away when I stepped on that rock. It was slick. It had a film on it. That was the last thing I remember. And then my. My feet went to where my head was just straight up and my rear end hit that rock hard, and I popped up downstream. Of course, I didn't realize it was 80 degrees and I was kind of warm up until then. That water was ice cold.

[Phil Robertson]

Oh, yeah, these are mountain streams.

[Jase Robertson]

There was searing pain happening on my rear end. And I thought, well, I broke something. And they said, you all right? I went, yep. But I was. I was not all right. And so I just. I really don't remember getting out of the water, you know, because I was hurting so bad. And so I stroked. It went from the back to the rear end. And I kept thinking until today that I was going to have to see a doctor. But today I woke up for the first time, I walked without a limp over that.

[Phil Robertson]

Let me read this again. He gives strength to the weary and increases the power of the weak. Even youths grow tired and weary. Young men stumble and fall. There you go.

[Zach Dasher]

You need those eagle.

[Jase Robertson]

Eagle wings. You see why I was going to do it? I was going to tell the story. I was going to read the eagle. And look. Then, I mean, there's a section in Revelation that says, to the church at Philadelphia.

[Phil Robertson]

Yeah.

[Jase Robertson]

Now, it was over in modern day Turkey, right? And I was going to go where we're at in John 13. I was going to go to the different kinds of love. I did mention that in my speech, the brotherly love it's the city of brotherly love.

[Zach Dasher]

It is.

[Jase Robertson]

And so which is the Greek word? The root for that is that fileto, or however you want to see it pronounced, that there's alternate pronunciations. But then I, you know, in that section, which I didn't say I should have, you know, they were the only church that he addressed that he really didn't have a problem with anything. They. They did.

[Phil Robertson]

They were the least chastised.

[Jase Robertson]

And what I noticed in that passage is he uses the agape love.

[Phil Robertson]

Yeah.

[Jase Robertson]

In it. But it's that Jesus loved them. And so I think that's in. You'll see it if you read it. It's chapter three and verse nine. He said there was, you know, they were doing this, and I was going to go into this kingdom, the kingdom of the Lord. And then he references the kingdom of the evil one here.

[Phil Robertson]

The.

[Jase Robertson]

He calls it the synagogue of Satan.

[Phil Robertson]

That could be a sermon right there.

[Jase Robertson]

Who claim to be Jews, though they're not, but are liars. I will make them come and fall down at your feet and acknowledge that I have loved you. Agape love. And so I did do that little bit about the unselfish love. And that takes us back to John 13, which, because I've just been obsessed with those first three verses of John, and I know we've kind of moved on from there, but in the section that we haven't covered in detail, I think it throws back to those first three verses when he says. When he says, John says in John 13, 3, Jesus knew that the Father had put all things into his hands and that he had come from God and that he was returning to God. So he got up and he washed their feet and he showed them this love, which he would then say, this is an example that you should do this to others. And the point I was going to make and that I would like to discuss is where he says they were having trouble understanding this. I think he's going back to. In. In verse 12, he says when he had finished washing their feet, he put on his clothes and he returned to his place and he asked this question. This is a question I wanted to put in the. Oh, the list Questions. The list. We. Yeah, I forgot to do that last podcast. And it's a good one. Do you understand what I have done for you?

[Phil Robertson]

That's a good one.

[Jase Robertson]

Let's have a little Selah moment. So just think about that. And you know what it made me think, which is a secondary question. Why did Jesus come? You know, he says that in Verse three. He knew he had come from God and he was returning, but he wanted to show them the extent or the end that we did do a section on that, of his love. And he washed your feet. And then he asked that question, do you understand what I've done for you?

[Phil Robertson]

Right.

[Jase Robertson]

That just hit me like a ton of bricks. Just because I thought, why did Jesus come? What's his will? Why is he. Why is he doing this? And I think that's a very good question.

[Phil Robertson]

You know, you think about it, Jase. It's when you. I tell couples all the time, when you create life, you know, two people come together, a man and a woman, husband and a wife is the way God designed it, and you create life. The idea is, once that life is created, or you do like you guys have done, Zack, you did. You adopt a child. So the life has already been created. But you decide, I'm going to be. You know, I want to take responsibility for this life. It's not. You don't do that to lord it over this creation. You do that to serve, nurture, and raise up this creation to hopefully be the best it can possibly be. You want it to even be, in our case, as humans, better than you are. And when you think about. That's exactly what you're seeing here. Jesus described. I mean, he is the great I am, He's a part of the creative process, and yet he's showing in a physical form exactly what you do with creation. You come to serve, you come to raise up, you come to make up.

[Jase Robertson]

We're trying. That's what it hit me like a ton of bricks. I thought, here's the creator of the universe. And John pointing this out. He knew that he had come from God. Well, why? And he's like, do you understand this? And it made all these stories pop in my head. I thought about the Zacchaeus in the tree. I mean, here's a short guy and he's up in a tree, and I don't care who you are. I know. Jesus had a smile on his face.

[Phil Robertson]

That's funny.

[Jase Robertson]

It's just funny. He's like, but what does he do? He's like, I'm coming to your house today. I mean, do you realize this is the creator of the universe in human form saying, I'm going to go to your house. It's like, we don't preach that side of Jesus, like, even in this. Do you understand what he's saying? He wants to come to my house. And he's a tax collector. There's Nobody in any generation since the beginning in the world who's ever liked a tax collector.

[Phil Robertson]

Exactly.

[Jase Robertson]

And here he's like, you know, he had a smile on his face and, no, I'm coming to your house. Well, then he. Then he tells why? Because it says, because he came to seek.

[Phil Robertson]

That's right.

[Jase Robertson]

And to save the lost. Which gets back to my question. Do you understand why he came for you? And he's doing this. And. And, boy, unfortunately, there's so many religious wings of Christianity that focuses on, oh, he came to punish or condemn. And it's like, have you not read this?

[Phil Robertson]

Yeah.

[Jase Robertson]

I mean, he came to our weddings. What? Yeah, he's healing the sick.

[Phil Robertson]

So, guys, summer is here. That means our kids are at home. Our grandkids are over for a visit. Jase, you just spent some time with your grandkids on a little vacation, right?

[Jase Robertson]

I did. It was awesome.

[Phil Robertson]

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[Jase Robertson]

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[Phil Robertson]

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[Zach Dasher]

I mean, think about the people that Jesus went after. They were almost all ceremonial unclean. I mean, we just did a podcast not yet. Now, we talked about Mark, chapter five. When he goes in and he heals the woman who had been bleeding for 12 years, he should not have touched her. Right? She touches him, he touches her. You know, they have an interaction and she's healed. So he's going to people who nobody else would touch. The outcasts of society. He goes into dead corpse. Right after that. The 12 year old little girl who's dead. You can't touch a dead corpse. Right before that, the demoniac in the tombs, right? Unclean around dead people. Everything that Jesus did, yeah, it seems much more about. He came to bring life to the desolate and the broken and the downtrodden and all the places that. And the people that nobody else would have anything to do with. Jesus is like, yeah, that's, that's where I'm going. And I'm bringing life with me. I'll make the unclean. The unclean won't make me unclean. In fact, I'm clean and I'll make them clean. I'll give them life.

[Phil Robertson]

I did a lesson one time, Zach, called the Untouchables. And I had some of those same examples you just said and made those points that Jesus did that. And I was making the point because this was a real life experience for me, because when we had Anna and she was in the hospital, we couldn't hold her because, you know, she had all these tubes and wires and all this. And so we would just stand there and rub and touch her legs and her arms and that was all we could do, you know, it was our child, but we couldn't like hold her like you would a normal child. And there was, there was a child a couple of beds over and unfortunately she had been abandoned there because she was premature like Anna. And I don't know the situation or what, you know, what happened with the mom, but so there was no one to touch her, you know, and it just, it broke my heart. And so the nurses would try. Even some of us, when it was allowed, would try because. But that child, you know, that child probably always had issues because, you know, they needed that touch. And so I had made that same point that you made, that the beauty of what Jesus does is he touches the untouchable, which really think about all of us are Jay's. You made the point about Zacchaeus. I love Luke's account because he tells the Zacchaeus story right after he tells the story of the rich young ruler who is exactly the opposite, a guy who seemed to have it all together. But wasn't really seeking who Jesus was for the right reason. And when you look at those two pictures, everybody wants to be the original ruler. Nobody wanted to be Zacchaeus except for Jesus recognizing that that was the house he needed to go to. And so it really does change your perspective when you think about how you look at people.

[Zach Dasher]

Well, you think about the. Jay said that people have like this idea that Christ came to condemn the world. And it's kind of a mis, a distortion of the Scriptures, right? I mean, it is. But think about, like what they, I think what people want to avoid is this, and I get this, on some level, they want to avoid a gospel that puts man at the dead center of it instead of God. But you have to deal with a text like this because I think what will happen is if you, if you get off on this, you're going to have the same problem that Peter had. Peter understood on some level who Christ was and his power and sovereignty in some level, because he's like, no, no, no, Jesus, you got this backwards. You don't wash my feet. I'm not going to let you watch my feet. And in Peter's mind, Peter's saying this as a way of respect for Christ, a way of upholding his power and his sovereignty and his kingship. And like, he's saying, you're greater than I. There's no way you should wash my feet. I'm not, not going to let you do that. And I think that we, if we're not careful, we can create theologies that do the same thing where we, we, we minimize what Jesus is actually trying to do. But what Jesus said to him, he, he came to Simon Peter and said to him, lord, do you wash my feet? Jesus answered him, what I'm doing, you do not understand now, but afterwards you'll understand. And Peter said to him, you shall never wash my feet. Jesus answered them, if I do not wash you, you have no share with me. So this is like a super humbling thing, because what it calls us to, it calls us to a certain type of humility to be able to.

[Phil Robertson]

Express.

[Zach Dasher]

Enjoy, and receive the love of God. And Peter had to deal with this.

[Jase Robertson]

Pretty obvious. But I just want to give a little recap. So look, you remember in John 3 when he said, I didn't come into the world, I did not send the Son into the world to condemn the world, John 3:17, but to save the world. And remember when in verse 31 in the second half it says, the one who comes from heaven is above all So I think to your point, Peter was responding like that. It's like, oh, oh, no, you can't be serving us. Which I think is why Jesus said, do you understand what I did? Yeah, you understand what I'm doing? And he. And he uses that word later in the text. I've set you an example. Well, what Zach just quoted without quoting it is in John 10, when he has this metaphor for I'm the shepherd and you're the sheep. He uses this same phrase in verse 10, he says, the thief comes only to steal and kill and destroy. I have come that they may have life. That's why when you get to 13, and it's. And John says he knew he came from God, well, why did he come? He's like, do you understand this? And so when he says, do you understand this? I've left you an example that just as I've loved you, you should love one another. Well, when Peter, who comes full circle and writes his letter, just listen to how the wording of this is. If you don't think he grasped at some point what Jesus did here, when he gets to first Peter 2, it says, talking about suffering for wrongdoing, especially in the name of Jesus, in verse 21, it says to this, you were called because Christ suffered for you. Well, here's this phrase, leaving you an example that you should follow in his steps. He says that exact phrase in John 13:15, I have set you an example that you should do as I've done for you. And then it says, he committed no sin, no deceit was found in his mouth, which is a quote from Isaiah 53. 9. When they hurled their insults at him, he didn't retaliate. When he suffered, he made no threats. Instead, he entrusted himself to him who judges justly. He bore our sins in his body on the tree so that we might die to sins. Look, here's this. John 10:10, and live for righteousness. He came that you could have life and have it to the full. By his wounds you have been healed. But here's the kicker. And people go here and they're like, you know, let me explain to you why Jesus died. Look at this. And this gets into why he came. The will of God for you were like sheep going astray, but now you have returned to the shepherd and overseer of your souls. Does that not sound like John 13:3, when Jesus knew that the Father had put all things under his power or into his hands, that he had come from God and was returning to God, it's like he Set that example. And what's fascinating about this, and this is all over the place. It's in Paul's sermon in Acts 17, where he's like, he gives you life and breath and everything else so that you would seek him and find him. But what happens is when you do seek and find him, you realize, well, he came here to seek me.

[Phil Robertson]

Yeah.

[Jase Robertson]

And that started before even time began. He's been seeking me the whole time, which. That's why I went to that the Zacchaeus, when he said, you know, I came to seek and find. He's pursuing me.

[Zach Dasher]

What Peter's doing in this passage, he thinks that he's doing a good thing by saying, christ, you'll never wash my feet. Because what he thinks he's doing is he thinks he's elevating Christ and he's saying, I'm not worthy for you to wash my feet. Right? So that's. He's thinking that he's putting himself in that posture. What he's actually doing is he's actually elevating himself over Christ because it's a. It's a very nuanced form of pride. Because what. What it. What it's saying is, is in the end, it's saying that God needs him for some purpose. Right? And Acts 17 says this. I. I mean, it's funny, we just had this conversation on the other podcast, but in Acts 17, which you just mentioned, Paul says something really, really powerful about the character of God. He says that God does not need man. He said he is not served by human hands as if he needed anything because he gives all men life and breath. In fact, let me read it directly.

[Jase Robertson]

Oh, just think of that verse, though. He gives all men life, which we just read. He came to give life to the full. Not only do you have this life look and breath and everything else, I mean, we're acknowledging that people are going through tough times and their struggles and all that, but for a moment, just stop and recognize that everything you have was given to you by God. He's pursuing you.

[Zach Dasher]

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[Phil Robertson]

So let me put a practical point in here for folks listening, because this is some pretty deep thoughts here. Is it that Peter, here's something practical for you because a lot of you are listening out here and you're still thinking sometimes, and you have reactions, because I did for many years too, as a young man in faith or young woman in faith, and you miss it. You feel really strongly about something and you realize as you get a little bit older, it's like, man, what was I thinking? Peter, the same Peter who's in our context in John 13, who misses what Jesus was here to do, is the same guy that wrote that text that Jay said 30 years later. So there is hope for you. Sometimes they're thinking, man, I just. I just seem to miss it so many times. Look, maturity that you grow in Christ creates something so fantastic. When you finally get there and you see things a lot clearer, you appreciate them. So when you read a text like this, I always like to throw that in because sometimes you're like, man, how. How do I keep missing it? But look, Peter did too. And he was literally the right hand of Jesus.

[Jase Robertson]

I mean, I hate to say this when I put that question, which I'm not even sure where the idea must have came from. The Holy Spirit, just looking at the 300 questions Jesus asked in the Gospels, because he had just said, John said he knew where he came from and where he was returning. I feel like we need to start over the whole book of John, because when I started going back, we'll be here for four years. Look, this theme is all over the place. And look, I had in my notes to read John 7:16. But while I was here, I was just Thumbing through, looking for other passages. And literally in the moment, right here, while you were talking, I noticed John 8:14. Watch how all this comes to life. I want to read John 8:14. Jesus answered, Even if I testify on my own behalf, my testimony is valid. Watch what this phrase says, for I know where I came from and where I'm going. Well, where does that sound like? It's the exact quote in John 13:3 that John made. But Jesus says it here, but you have no idea where I come from or where I'm going. And the point is, when I was going to read John 7:16, Jesus answered, because the Jews asked him a question. How did this man get such learning without having studied? And you know what Jesus answer was in 7, 16? My teaching is not my own. It comes from him who sent me, which goes back to the John 3. He sent him into the world not to condemn me. Goes back to John 10:10. I came that they may have life. It's literally in every chapter. He keeps saying that. And what I was going to say is, it's like as Christians and followers of Jesus, we can't get past the question of where we came from. We have a big debate. Well, you know, I wonder if there was an explosion, you know, this floating matter that came out of nowhere and all of a sudden life exists. Y' all have heard, heard this story. They teach it in public schools every day. You know, we came from just this random explosion, primordial suit. And, you know, and so we have debates, you know, where did we come from? But the question Jesus keeps addressing is where he came from. And what I wanted to say is, when he gets to this point, and even way back in John 7, and says in verse 33, when he says, I am with you only for a short time, and then I'm going to go to the One who sent me. Because it's always, he came from God, but he's returning to the Father. And Even in verse 34, chapter 7, you will look for me, but you will not find me. And where I am, you cannot come. And I think we are always trying to go to heaven or go find God. Which is why you read that passage in Acts 17. Oh, well, he put me here to find him. And then when you read the words of Jesus, he was like, no, I came down and I'm going to leave. But guess what? There's something else going to come down.

[Phil Robertson]

That's where we're headed next.

[Jase Robertson]

Yeah. In John 14:16, which is the same thing he did in John 7 he repeats the same phrase in verse 36. You will look for me, but you will not find me where I am. You cannot come. But he keeps saying, but I know where I came from. I've come down to you. I'm seeking you. And you're like, yeah, but I want to seek you. And he's like, no, don't get the cart before the horse. You're going to realize when you find me that I've been looking for you all along and I came that you might have life. And I'm going to show you what my will is. When you read chapter 7 and verse 17. This is a point I want to make to introduce for our next podcast. It says, now listen to John 7:17, if anyone chooses to do God's will. What is God's will? So I went down a rabbit hole because based on that question, he's like, I came from God and I'm returning. Do you understand what I've done for you? What is my will? Why did I come? Which John 10:10 is pretty evident. Came to have life. But here in John 17, he attaches that if you choose to God's will, he will find out whether my teaching comes from God. You know what I found fascinating? Now, I've never noticed that when you do a rabbit hole on God's will, you know what you're going to find right next to it?

[Phil Robertson]

Love.

[Jase Robertson]

Love. Think Romans 12, where it says you'll understand what God's will is. Well, in Romans 13, what's he start talking about?

[Phil Robertson]

Yeah, love.

[Jase Robertson]

There's a whole section on it, and I think it mirrors what he did in John 13, that connection with God's will and why he came. He's pursuing us, seeking and saving. It always goes hand in hand with this example of love that he's mirroring here with washing the feet. Even with my wife's black iron skillet, she was. It was a form of foot washing for her family.

[Phil Robertson]

You know what she should have done? She should have looked up at you and you saw that black skillet and said, do you understand what I've done for you?

[Jase Robertson]

That Al, you could not have put a better button. Because you know what I said? If it took a back injury to serve my family, who's a forever family, we're doing it.

[Phil Robertson]

We're doing it. All right, we're out of time, but pick it up next time on Unashamed. Thanks for listening to the Unashamed podcast. Help us out by leaving a rating and review on Apple podcast. And don't miss an episode by subscribing on YouTube, and be sure to click the little bell and choose all notifications to watch every episode.