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Unashamed with the Robertson Family
Ep 1160 | Rowdy Uncle Si Derails Jase’s Sermon & Al Referees Miss Kay & Ann’s Sisterly Squabbles
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I am unashamed. What about you?
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Welcome back to Unashamed. We're still the day or two after all of our double commanders. Send in all that. We're recording today. And we didn't mention this earlier when we were talking about but mom was able to come so that was pretty neat. Jay to have her be able to be a part of it is outside. And of course she loved it. She loved getting to hear she loves hearing her boys. And of course Willie said you can wake up now. Okay. Jason's gone. Like making yeah. After Jay spoke is like you know, now you wake up Mom, Jason's gone. I'm up here. But Willie went about another 20 minutes. Oh yeah. Yeah. He, he. At first I thought he was just going to make the appeal, you know to.
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Well that's what I thought because he.
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Did a little 20 minute gospeller.
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You know he was like I don't know how I'm going to follow that. And that was my yeah. Exit strategy. And I thought well that was nice. But. But he did. He did.
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He did and he did. Really?
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Yeah. After he said that he said but I'll start with what a train wreck it was.
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So he, he I heard it was really good.
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Jace, Max and Layla said that the whole your everything was just all of.
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It was great and and so that that was good. He of course you know Willie, he best pokes at mom and gets her going. But I didn't mention that sigh was the whole time Jase was preaching Cy was preaching from the front row and of course you couldn't tell what he was saying probably could you from the stand.
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Al we went to Bible school. They don't train you for the crazy uncle hollering at the top of his lungs while I'm trying to talk for.
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You tongue speakers out there in our audience and interpreters, I want you to interpret that tongue, because whatever Si is saying, I don't know that anybody's going to get it.
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I ignored it the first time because I had no idea what he was saying. It was. I looked at him because I thought for a second he was in pain. Then I realized, no, he's got a smile on his face. And he. And so I went on, and it wasn't 20 seconds later, he just started hollering louder.
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You were scratching his edge, I'll tell you that. Because he was loving every minute of it.
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So, yeah, it was all good, clean fun. I mean, just whatever. Everybody's got the crazy uncle, but nobody's quite like, sir.
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And, yeah, he's. So I tell him all the time, I said, no. Sigh. If this works the way it's supposed to, either you or mom is at the plate. The other one's on deck, and I'm in the hole. I'm just waiting to come.
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No. He did say one of the lines. He said, Zach was. I said something about the resurrection, and he said, hey, I'm next, Jack. But he was, like, saying it as a positive. But the crowd was looking bewildered, like, should we laugh?
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Should we cheer? We don't really know how to respond to that.
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So it's been an interesting week for Lisa and I because Anna has been looking after Mom. She's been staying with us since dad crossed over. And, you know, and she's doing. She's doing pretty good, but she's doing well enough to come and be a part of it. But I didn't realize how hard it is to take care of not just one older lady, but two, because her sister Ain't Ann is here, and ain't Ann is 86, but she's in pretty good health, mentally and physically. But, you know, still, she. She gets in. She tries to take care of mom, but she's the big sister, Jay. So she'll start bossing mom around. And Mom's like, quit bossing me. It's funny because it's like, now there's almost like they've gotten to that place where they're little girls again. And it's been an interesting week, but I've really loved it. It gives you a chance to serve your parents in a way you didn't really know. And we kind of went through that with dad as well. So we Appreciate all you guys thinking about mom and, And. And asking about her, but she's doing pretty well, so. Which has been a blessing. So that's that. So let's get to John, because last podcast, we talked a lot about the other and just barely got into this text. Jay's reminded us of the Paracletus passages about the Holy Spirit, which are really throughout this whole passage. And it is important to understand that. And I think, as you said, the love aspect of this is what he really zeroes in on.
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He does. When he gets to chapter 15. Of course, this is all within kind of the introduction of. Maybe introduction is a bad word, but a focus on the Holy Spirit is going to be sent from heaven to human beings, to dwell with human beings. And what's tricky to wrap your head around is that he's bringing the Father and the Son with him because of the nature of God's being.
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Right.
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And it's all woven around Jesus, introducing a new creation.
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Yep.
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To this planet, a new world within a world that's gone bad. Zach brought up talking about the Paracletus in the last podcast. This idea of Christians, or disciples of Jesus overcoming the evil one based on Revelation 12, which is a word John.
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Uses a lot in John, and in first, second, third John, that overcoming by.
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The blood of the lamb is Revelation 12. And the word of their testimony, which I was focusing on the missional aspect of God through human beings because we left off saying the time we used in John 14:16, that this counselor, this Holy Spirit, will come to you. Another counselor. So obviously, and Zach may have a better way to explain that, but it's like he's taken my place to be not just alongside of you, but because Jesus had limitations in that he was in a human body, the Word became flesh, made his dwelling among us. Well, now this Holy Spirit, he uses that word, this helper, this counselor will be in you. I mean, but it's the same Holy Spirit that when you read Genesis 1:1, which I read on Doug Commander Sunday, in the beginning, the earth was formless and empty, and it says the Holy Spirit was hovering over the waters.
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Right.
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And then God said, let there be light. But, you know, God creates the heavens and the earth. Holy Spirit is hovering over the waters. What's the significance of that? It was a part of creation, bringing life.
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Yeah.
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Well, think this same Holy Spirit, I think this is. I mean, we're starting off very powerful. That same Spirit that's hovering over the waters, which I've said many times in response to the Gospel, is Still hovering over the waters because of the new creation, which I brought that up. So fast forward to this Holy Spirit being introduced. And then Peter getting up after the Holy Spirit is poured out and made available for everyone in Acts, chapter 21 through 4. And then Peter gets up and he shares Jesus. First gospel sermon post. Jesus resurrection, him leaving. The Holy Spirit's been poured out, and he shares Jesus. Wonderful sermon. And the people heard it. They were cut to the heart. They said, what do we do? And he said, repent. Be baptized, every one of you, in the name of Jesus, for the forgiveness of your sins, and you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. Well, where's it going? It's going in you.
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Yeah.
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And so I think when we get here and you realize that this is the new creation. This is what he was pointing to in the book of John. And to me, I don't know. Y' all may have others, but the two big clues to what he's revealing in John 14, 15, and 16 is when in John 7, you remember where he said, this is in verse 37. And he starts talking about this. If anyone is thirsty, this is on the feast. This was the feast of the tabernacles in John 7, which was. It was a festival where they kind of celebrated the waters being split at the Red Sea. And so they were emptying these waters. And it was kind of. The ceremony was revolving around this aspect of God parting the waters. And so then Jesus, not by accident, takes that moment to. To say this in John 7:37, if anyone is thirsty, let him come to me and drink whoever believes in me, as the Scriptures has said. And I want to read that Scripture where it says that streams of living water will flow from within him. Now then John clarifies this in verse 39 of chapter 7. By this he meant the Spirit whom those who believed in him were later to receive. Up to that time, the Spirit had not yet been given, since Jesus had not yet been glorified. So now fast forward seven chapters, and he starts talking about this. I'm leaving. I'm going to the Father, but I'm going to give you this counselor to be in you and with you forever. And he says, another counselor. So it's like as Jesus leaves, he then becomes the paracletos. First, John 2:1. In God's presence, the Father. But he pours out his Spirit. Well, now that spirit no longer has limitations. Which goes back to. Remember John 3, when John was talking about the Spirit.
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Yeah.
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And at the end of John 3, it says, and I've read that. We've read this many times. But it says in verse 34, for the one whom God has sent speaks the words of God. For God gives the spirit without limit. The father loves his son and has placed everything in his hand.
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So just think about that. These are the clues. And now we're getting well even back.
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To bolster your point about the tabernacle or the feast of booths or tabernacles they call it. The water was one aspect of it, but the other part was they were living in the tents in the desert. And the whole idea by the tabernacle being added was so that God's presence would be right there with them. The idea. So even that picture you see in that was just this little glimpse of what was coming and later became the temple. But it was the same idea that they wanted God to dwell there, but then there was this distance because they feared him, and back to Mount Sinai. So all these are pictures and glimpses that Jesus now has been talking about in this whole sort of district.
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You bring up Mount Sinai in Exodus 24 after Moses gave the Ten Commandments in chapter 20. And then you have the book of the covenant that's given in the next three chapters. There's the scene on Mount Sinai, which you go back to 19, and they can't even come up the mountain because God's too holy. And then something happens in chapter 24 that it's a pointing forward to Christ in that Moses comes down and he alone meets with God. God gives him the words, he comes back down, he tells Israel what God said, and everybody's like, we're going to obey. We'll obey everything that he said. Now, just a few chapters later, they don't, because they make an image of this golden calf and they end up worshiping him. But what's interesting is in Exodus 24, Moses constructs an altar, and then he has a sacrifice on the altar. And he does it at the foot of the mountain, which I always thought was interesting. Why would he do it at the foot of the mountain? He does it at the foot of the mountain because it's at the foot of the mountain that is the barrier between man and the presence of God. To get through that barrier, there had to be a sacrifice, an atoning sacrifice that was foreshadowing and pointing forward to. To ultimately what would be fulfilled in Jesus. And I think where this discussion gets wonky for a lot of people is that we've typically left it just at that. Like, literally like the gospel. This was what I grew up thinking. The gospel was simply about just the atonement. It was just, okay, now that's erased and that's done. Okay, good. Now we can. We can move forward. But it wasn't just the atonement, because if you read the end of Exodus 24 at Mount Sinai, you know what it says they did at the very end of it, they had a meal with God. So the end of it was actually presence. Like the atonement of Christ is just the entry point. You go through the atonement to the presence of God. And that is the point, I think, of the Holy Spirit coming more than anything else. It is like the Spirit comes into a human body when that person puts their faith In Christ Jesus, it's that repent and be baptized. Acts chapter two. And you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. So the repentance and the baptism, like the being born again, like this is happening, like I'm getting. I'm going through that atonement process. Why? But why? So that God may dwell in me. I can now. I will be that temple. I will be a living stone on the cornerstone of the temple.
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I'm glad you said that, because I was going the same direction, because the reason I read the John 7, you got to remember, he's taking a Jewish festival, this feast of the tabernacles, and he's applying this concept of living water. But he's doing that by introducing that this spirit is going to come from within you. But it says, up until that time, the Spirit hadn't been given because he hadn't been glorified. Well, the next catalyst or clue is when he gets to John 12 and the Passover. He then has this moment in verse 20 where it says there were some Greeks among those who went up to worship. So it's mainly, we got Jewish festivals, we got Jews. Jesus is a Jew. You have what Zach just said about the history of Exodus and the part of the Red Sea and Mount Sinai, but still that presence of God was the point. But when the Greeks came up to worship, well, then Jesus replies at verse 23, the hour has come for the Son of Man to be glorified. Well, we just read John 7, that when he's glorified, this spirit's going to be made available and flow from within you, which is. And he chose to make this statement, not by accident, when some Greeks showed up. And it's at the Passover, which he's going to. He's fixed to provide atonement for sins, but he's also. What's the catalyst of him being glorified? Well, he goes on to say, what else is going to happen when he's glorified? In verse 30 of chapter 12, this voice was for your benefit, not mine. Now is the time for judgment of this world. And then he brings up the evil one. He says, now the Prince of this world will be driven out. Well, don't you think it's interesting. You probably see where I'm going with this, that simultaneously when Jesus is glorified, whatever that means, which we know what it means, he dies. He's buried, he's raised, and then goes to the presence of God and pours out his Spirit, simultaneously with the Holy Spirit being available the presence of God being available to come from within humans. How close is that presence to God?
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Can't get any closer.
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Well, to do that, the prince of this world has to be driven out.
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Yep.
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Well, think about in. I know this is deep, but just think about how powerful this is. When you go back to the first creation, where did it go wrong? You know, the first two chapters, everything is great. God wants to live with humans. He's given them dominion over all these animals and creation itself. Everything's good. When he got to humans, it's very good. He actually makes Adam. And it's like, it's not good for man to be alone. And, you know, since we've been looking at the nature of God, why that is. Because how can you love somebody if you're all alone.
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Exactly.
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So here comes a helper. That's what Eve was described as, you know, a completion.
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Made from man.
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Yeah, made from man. And everything's great. Look, then we have all these trees that you can eat from.
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They would walk along with God in the cool of the day.
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I mean, you know, you also have the tree of life in the garden. That will keep you alive. It will keep this relationship forever. You can eat this from this tree.
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Literally the fountain of youth that everybody's always.
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You have it, but there's one tree, and he described it as the knowledge of good and evil. And then here comes the evil one who's lost his place because he didn't want to.
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He rebelled.
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Yeah. He did not want to surrender to his role that God created him for. And then he starts saying, oh, if you eat of that tree, you won't die. He wants them to eat that tree. So here comes. You know, we're now in John, and he's saying, this new creation, I'm going to deal with that problem. Yeah, yeah.
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And he. And you know, he does it. He does that through us. I think this is what's interesting. When you read John 7, I was thinking immediately of, well, two passages, one in Ezekiel 47, which is a pro. Which is a picture of a. Of the temple. And the vision that the prophet had was there was water, a stream. A stream of water flowing out from the threshold of the door. And everything that that water touched would just. Like, trees would pop up and fruit would pop up. And Ezekiel says, all this food, it's for food and for the healing of the nations. Well, then if you get to the end of the Bible, in the very last chapter, it says, then the angel. This is Revelation 22. Then the angel showed Me, the river or the stream, if you want to use that term, of the water of life. Streams of living water.
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Right.
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John 7. Bright as crystal, flowing from the throne of God. Well, what's the throne of God? And of the land? Well, that's the temple motif. That's the holy of the holies. That's where God's presence is at. So whatever this river is in Revelation 22, it's actually the spring of it. The spring head of the river is coming out from the very center of God's presence, and it goes through the middle of the street of the city also. And on either side of the river, the tree of life with its 12 kinds of fruit, which is obviously talking about Israel, the twelve tribes of Israel yielding its fruit in each month. The leaves of the tree were for the healing of the nations. Well, that sounds a whole lot like Ezekiel 47.
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No longer. I'm in Ezekiel 47. And I'm glad you brought that up, because it was predicted. Jesus then promised it, and then it was revealed in Revelation by Jesus, his revelation.
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But the point I was going to make about this, though, is. Think about this for a second. I just saw this. When you read John 7. When I read this, I'm thinking of God sitting on his throne away from humans, and this river's coming out of him, and we're all downstream of it. That's how I view when I read Revelation 22. But when you read John 7, that's not the picture you get.
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Well, it's coming from within you. It's bubbling within you.
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God's throne is in my body. Think about this. His presence is in my body. So the river that's feeding the whole entire globe is actually coming from the bodies of believers, because that's where the Holy Spirit dwells. That's the stream of life. So when you talked about the liberation of the whole creation, which I'm. I'm so glad you said that, because it's not just that our bodies are the temple of the Spirit. In fact, if you read the scripture here, the whole world is going to be the temple of God. In the end, the whole universe is going to be the temple of God. And it's going to happen through the bodies of the redeemed believers. One of the most difficult things to determine is what does the future hold for business? You can ask nine experts. You'll get 10 different answers. Bear market, bull market. Are the rates going to go up or down? Is inflation going to go up or down? It would be awesome if we had A crystal ball that we could see into the future. But until then, over 42,000 businesses have future proof their business with NetSuite by Oracle, which is the number one cloud ERP, bringing accounting, financial management, inventory, HR into one fluid platform.
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Oh, we're, we're tracking and we didn't know it because. That's because look, now, since I'm so glad you took. You took a whole section that I was fixed to do.
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Let me add one thing to that, because when you were talking about that, I thought about what he told the woman at the well. Everyone who drinks this water will be thirsty again. But whoever drinks the water I give him will never thirst. Indeed, the water I give him will become in him a spring of water welling up to eternal life. That's the exact picture you're describing. That's what he told that woman. Remember? The Samaritan woman.
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So if you're wondering why we're going down this trail, because we're fixing to read John 15 that says, I am the vine or I am the tree, you're the branches. Well, does that sound familiar?
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Yep.
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We're going back to the garden where there were two trees. One's going to keep you alive. One is going to give you the knowledge of good and evil. And the evil one came in there. And like Ooh, yeah. Because he knew, based on our human weakness, which is what Romans talks about, that once we had that knowledge because we were weak, we. The curiosity and the prompting of the evil one led to us choosing evil. Once they had that knowledge, well, all kinds of evil started flourishing.
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Yeah.
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And so that's why the evil ones. This has to be dealt with, because how are we ever going to overcome that problem? And so I'm going to introduce something I've never. I didn't read this in a book, and I just noticed. Here's why I came to this conclusion. One is, why is Jesus saying, I'm the vine, you're the branches, you bet. Remain in me, you get apart from me. Well, it comes back to those decisions of the first humans with those two trees in the middle of the garden. Why is that a big deal? Oh, it was a huge deal, sure. And why does Jesus keep bringing up the evil one? I just read the first one in John 12 when he said, when I. Now's time for me to be glorified. And by that the prince of this world will be driven out. But when I am lifted up from the earth, will draw all men to myself. Well, we know how that's happening now because he's going to leave and give the Holy Spirit to people. We're drawn together, heaven and earth connected. We have a new creation. So just watch this. How many times the evil one is brought up and there may be more. I didn't. I didn't do a Greek lexicon search, but off the top of my head, in John 8:44, he. Remember when he said murder from the beginning, the argument with the Jewish. With the Jewish leaders. And he says, you, Father is the devil. You belong to the devil. John 8:44. And you want to carry out your Father's desire. Well, what was his desire? Get them to eat of that tree which brought sin and death into which he's now running rampant through. He was a murderer from the beginning. When he lies, he speaks his native language. And so here's Jesus, like, testifying. He's saying, can any of you prove me guilty of sin? I mean, we don't have a problem proving the evil one guilty of sin. He's like, why don't you believe in me? He who belongs to God hears what God says. So he introduces it there. Then in 1231. Is that the one I just read? Yeah, I think so. Now, at his moment of glorification, the prince of this world will be driven out. Then look at 13. Is that 2713 27. Let's see what that says. Oh yeah. Remember when Judas took the bread? What happened? Satan entered and entered him. Here we got a prompting. Same thing that's happening in the, in the garden. This is the problem. You have one of Jesus friends betrayed him. This is the problem when you leave us up to our own devices because of our human weakness. And what was his problem?
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Same problem they had at Mount Sinai.
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Same problem.
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They said they'd obey, but they didn't.
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They didn't.
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So look at 14.
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All you needed was 40 days and then it's a golden calf.
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Look, look at 1430. Look at 1430. I will not speak with you much longer, for the Prince of this world is coming. He has no hold on me because he doesn't have sin or death. He's fixed to conquer death and he's fixed to conquer sin because he had no sin. The world must learn that I love the Father and that I do exactly what my Father has commanded me. Those are two things that didn't happen in the first creation. He said, don't eat of that tree. All you had to do was trust and do everything he said and everything would have been great. Didn't do it. And the Evil one played a role in that. So then look at 1611, which we haven't got there yet.
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Well, just real quick, because the big juxtaposition there is that the big problem is our lack of obedience. But the solution is what Jesus accomplished. He obeys everything that his Father said. So you're seeing Jesus as the centerpiece of the accomplishment of this.
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So how can we do that? Well, that leads us to 1611, because what was the problem with humans? We wanted that knowledge of good and evil. The Evil one seized upon that and made us not do everything God said. So what is Jesus going to do about that? That's a problem that has to be solved. Because okay, Jesus came down, he died and buried and raised. But guess what? We still sin.
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That's why I brought up. Because here's the point, is that this is the point of the law. By the way, Paul said that the law was given so that the trespass might increase. Romans, chapter 5, verse 20. The law was given so that the trespass might increase. What does that mean? The law was given in part because it was to show humanity that it gave you the way. The law did give us the way. The problem with the law is it didn't give us the means. And so what you're leading up to here is what are the means? Because we know the way is to be obedient, be like Christ was, who did it perfectly. That's the way.
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But we're still not going to be able to pull it off. Which is. Which is why in John 16, he says, Unless I go away, verse 7, the counselor will not come. Yes, but if I go, I will send him to you. And we've already read that he'll be in you when he comes. He'll convict the world of sin and righteousness and judgment in regard to sin, because men did not believe in me in regard to righteousness, because I'm going to the Father. But you'll have the Spirit, right? So where you go where you can see me no longer, because he at the right hand of God. But watch this in regard to judgment, because the prince of this world now stands condemned. Why is he bringing up the evil one? Because you now have the means inside of you. The evil one comes to you and accuses you and says, oh. And you're like, well, I'm weak. I'm human. But you have God's spirit. You now have the means to say, nope, you can't accuse me. I have the spirit of Jesus inside of me. Sin and death.
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The only way to get there is through honesty and submission. It's really interesting because I. This morning, before you came in to the podcast, I have a weekly call with. I call her my fat counselor. You know, me being the fat person, not her. But we have these conversations, and she said something this morning that struck me. She said, you know what I love about you, Alex? You're always honest, even when you don't have a good week or there's reasons why in this diet that I'm on. And I told her, I said, well, Heather, why would I lie to you whenever you're here to counsel me? Because I would just be lying to myself. And that's exactly what happens in a spiritual sense as well, if you lie to yourself and don't submit. But you keep saying, well, I keep doing the same thing I've always done and expect a different result. How is it you can. Only God's going to know.
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Isn't that what the spirit's doing, though? He says, I'm going to guide you into all truth. And so a lot of this is this conviction that comes from the spirit. But the reason why you had the means and the reason why you had the spirit is because you are the housing God now. You are part of the temple motif. And I think this is why I was thinking of a good title for this episode. And I was thinking about this because this is hot topic right now about this third Temple being built at some point in Jerusalem or the Gaza Strip area. And I'm thinking the third Temple is already under construction.
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You are the third Temple.
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It's being built.
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Third temple has begun. Everybody, like, what are we looking for? Like, this is the whole point of the.
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We watched another couple of hundred bricks just two days ago.
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I would change third to the word forever. You are the forever temple. There will be no more. But just getting started. You get to John 17. Look, John 17.
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Oh, he's just getting started.
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17, 14. He's now praying for his disciples. And watch this prayer in 14. I have given them your word and the world has hated them, for they are not of this world. What are you talking about? They are not of this world. Because he is going to create a new world within the world. And he describes it any more than I am of the world. Didn't he come into this world? Yeah, but he came from heaven. Well, where did the spirit come from? That will house. That we will house his disciples and eventually us. Same place, same place, same place. Which is why eventually he's going to tell Pilate, my kingdom is not of this world. So people are like, oh, say that's a later thing to happen. No, he's talking about the origin. It didn't come from this world. Because this world, men and the evil one created a world within God's world that he then came to save and then came to solve by giving us the Holy Spirit, which then made God's presence in a world not of his making and doing once sin and death entered. So watch what verse 15 says. My prayer is not that you take them out of the world. Now this is where it gets very inspirational. But that you protect them from the evil one. Well, how's he going to do that? They are not of the world, even as I am not of the world. Set them apart or sanctify them. When you look at what that word means, set apart for sacred use are made holy. Set them apart. Sanctify them by the truth. Your word is truth. As you sent me into the world, I have sent them into the world. For them I sanctify myself, that they too may be truly sanctified. Well, how's he going to set them apart and sanctify them? He's given them his spirit.
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I'm just getting started because now when you go to 1 John 2, he just described what I'm fixing to read. Because now in 1 John 2, the other use of Paracletus, which is why I wanted to do that review last podcast, watch how this all works. And you say, how what works? How the first creation. In the beginning, God made humans. Here comes the evil one. And he introduces or he makes use of the knowledge of good and evil to prompt humans to fall. And then here's God coming to the world, saving it through Jesus and making right what the evil and his contribution in that to stop that from ever happening again. So that's what we're talking about through Jesus, dying, being buried, being raised, going to the presence of God as a human, in the presence of God forever, and then pouring out a spirit. So one John two, you get the time frame of where Jesus is at now, because verse one of chapter two says, I write this to you so that you will not sin. Because we still have this sin problem. We still have this knowledge of good and evil, and we're weak as humans. But if anybody does sin, we have one who speaks to the Father in our defense, Jesus Christ, the righteous one. Then it goes full scale, global. He is the atoning sacrifice for our sins, and not only for ours, but for the sins of the whole world. So then he goes, and I'm going to skip through this. He gets into God's love, verse 5. Anyone who obeys his word, God's love, is truly made complete in him. This is how we know we're in him. Whoever claims to live in him must walk as Jesus did. Well, how are we going to do that? He's given us his spirit, which we'll get to. So then I want to skip down to verse nine and this is what Zack just said, because here's what the Spirit does. Anyone who claims to be in the light but hates his brother is still in darkness. Because now this spirit has brought light into the world. Jesus is the light of the world. We have his spirit. You're going to see this as we continue through John. And it says, whoever loves his brother lives in the light and there's nothing. Notice those next two words in him to make him stumble, because you have the Holy Spirit in you. But whoever hates his brother is in the darkness and walks around in the darkness, he does not know where he's going because the darkness has blinded him. But here's the kicker. When he gets to verse 13, it says, I write to you fathers, because you have known him who is from the beginning I write to you young men, watch this next phrase because you've overcome the evil one. Now we're post. We're reading in John. Now we're post death, burial and resurrection. Post born out of the Holy Spirit. And he's saying you've overcome the evil.
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Yeah. Decades have passed.
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Look, he says it again in verse 14. I write to you fathers, because you have known him from who is from the beginning. I write to you young men, because you're strong. Now watch this. And the word of God lives in you. Well, how does he live? How does the word of God live in you? And I'll just cut to the chase. You're like, give me a verse that. That's referring to the spirit. Okay? Chapter four in verse 12 says, no one has ever seen God, but if we love one another, God lives in us. His love is made complete in us. Where are we fixed to get to? In John 15, he said, I'm the tree, you're the branches. This tree is a tree of life. You see how this is working? And then he says in verse 13 of chapter 4, we know that we live in him and he in us, because he has given us his spirit. So back to First John 2. Watch how this works. He says, the word of God lives in you, verse 14. And you have overcome the evil one. So to Zach's next point about the resurrection, go to chapter three of first John. How great is the love the Father has lavished on us that we should be called children of God. Remember in John 14 when he said, I'm not going to leave you as orphans. I'm going to give you my spirit. He'll be with you forever. You'll be my children. And that is what we are. The reason the world does not know us is that it didn't know him. Dear friends, we are children of God, and what we will be has not yet been made known. But we know that when he appears, we shall be like Him. Well, there's our new body, but we shall see him as he is.
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So, Al, this is that time of year where everybody's back in school. And you know what that means.
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What does it mean, Zach?
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That means a lot of car drop offs, a lot of football games. It means early morning rides to school, and the gas bill just keeps going up. But this year, it's going to be a little bit different because I have the Upside app. And the Upside app, it gets you cash back on daily essentials like gas and other things as well, like groceries and dining. There are over 100,000 gas stations and grocery stores and restaurants on the app. There's a lot of them right here in my area. And so cash back is just always just around the corner when I use it. Actually, right now I'm going to go fill up today. And I think it's like 69 cents a gallon on diesel. So that's quite a bit. When you're putting 25 gallons of diesel in your truck, it's substantial cash back savings, no confusing reward points or credits. It's just straight up cash back into your bank account.
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A
Upside for us is mostly used on gas, kind of like you were talking about because we spend so much time on the road back and forth between West Monroe and Gulf Shores. And so Lisa has told me we save a ton because of using the Upside app.
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But watch. What then does. He backtracks and says the same thing. He goes to verse four and starts talking about this sin problem. Everyone who sins breaks the law. In fact, sin is lawlessness. But watch verse five. But you know that he appeared. Now we're going to the first time he appeared, Jesus, so that he might take away our sins. And in him is no sin. No one who lives in him keeps on sinning. And that's the problem people have with this verse. They're like, well, wait a minute, I thought we do sin. But you have the spirit in there and the evil one's coming saying, oh, yeah, yeah. You're like, nope, he paid for it. It's a continual forgiveness that's hard to wrap your head around. And it's a purpose that you're now illustrating. That knowledge of good and evil and you being weak, no longer has that power because Jesus destroyed that power. Who had the power that is the devil. So watch though. I want to read this last verse and then we can talk about it. But he then goes right back to the same theme in verse 7. Dear children, this is 1 John 3.
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7.
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Notice how the family reference here.
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Do not let anyone lead you astray. He who does what is right is righteous, just as he is righteous. Well, that's all about the Holy Spirit. He who does what is sinful. And. Well, here we go again. Is of the devil. Because the devil has been sinning from the beginning. The reason the Son of God appeared was to destroy the devil's work. No one who is born of God will continue to sin. And I skipped forward to chapter four to share why that's true. Because you have the Holy Spirit in you. The evil one comes. You're like, not today, buddy. Sorry.
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There's so much meat here. Like, I. I don't even know. I had this thought, I'm probably going to butcher this, because this is something I have not studied. But I just had this thought as this conversation has unfolded. You actually started this entire podcast with what's called the hypostatic union, which is the.
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C
Is that a good thing or a bad thing?
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That's a good thing. That is an essential thing for us to understand as Christians that in Christ. That in Christ, the fullness of deity was pleased to dwell in a body. That Christ was fully God and fully man. Not parts, not separate, but fully God, fully man, in one union. And when you think. When you were talking about that earlier, I was thinking man. Isn't that interesting how that hypostatic union of Christ is the precursor for heaven and earth coming together? Because the big thing that we've always thought about if you grew up in the church, is like, heaven was out there, earth is here. Heaven's where we're going. One day, instead of thinking of what the Bible teaches is, no, heaven's coming here. There is going to be a new. There's going to be a fusion of heaven and earth, and Christ.
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Is the.
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First fruit of that. And so this intermediate not yet now state that we're in. We're in the not yet. We're in the now, but not yet fully there. The Spirit now is coming in us. So you're seeing another type of union that's happening. How in the world can a human body house the Holy Spirit? What does that even mean?
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That is the question. How. How in the world can the human body house the Spirit? Because here's why I said all that and read all that. I didn't say it. I read it because I always struggled with people who came to me and said, why do you claim God is Lord of heaven and earth? Look at all the evil. Well, now I'VE got the answer in a quick, short answer. And I'm answering your question because God kicked the evil one out of the world that we're in. In the world you see, we're in a world, a new creation within a world of the old creation. But in our world within the world, Jesus kicked the evil one out.
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Yeah, that's what happened.
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And you know what?
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The evil one, what he's trying to do, the entire work of the devil is to separate.
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He's trying to get you back into that world. That's why he said, don't let anybody lead you astray.
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But if he wants to split heaven and earth and he wants to split our union with God, that is his work. But in Christ there is no splitting. There's only union.
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What was his statement? The union.
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Hypostatic Union.
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So Zach4Al gives his comment. You need to print up a shirt that says hyperstatic union member, not hyper hypostatic. Hypostatic union member.
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All right. Or you know what? That the letters. Would that be. Would be that hum. Hypostatic union member.
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So what were you going to say?
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I'm sorry, I thought it was too good. Now I was going to say, was that to answer Zach's question too, with a question? Because you think about it, if you're in that other world, you look at this world and say, well, that's not possible. You people are crazy. You got some spirit living in your body. Well, let me ask you, this person in that world, looking in our world, saying, you think you figured something out. How does your spirit work in you?
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Exactly?
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You got one too. Oh, exactly. And Jesus said, every time you think some before you ever do something that's bad, you thought about it before you did it. Well, what was that? That was your spirit in you.
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It's a great point, Al, because look what the people in the world do. And I've done it myself. I've been stupid. We try to divide up our body and soul in our spirit. It's like, well, my body, remember Paul? Like, man, I got this thing inside my body because he was.
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I'm so weak.
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Yeah, but he said, what we all do, you don't. You can't divide it up. That's you.
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That's you.
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That is you. And Jesus is God and the Holy Spirit. You're like, well, how does that work? Oh, it's working.
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It's working.
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It's not only is it working, it has to work. Because Christ being God and man is the only way that we as Humans could even have access to God. This had to happen. There had to be this incarnation of God for us to be able as mere humans, to be connected. And I think that's the point, right? I mean, it's heavy. It's a lot, but it's why. But it also kind of speaks to what we all feel inside. We want to be whole, we want to be connected, we want to belong. And this is the basis for all belonging.
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So we're out of time.
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But we never got to the love thing.
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We will. We will next time. But I was thinking about the whole time we were talking today, I think about the hat I'm wearing. For those of you watching, I've got one of the gospel symbol hats. And I just thought about the brilliance of what the Holy Spirit did through one of our mentors, Bill Smith, who came up with these little symbols as ways just to show what we've been talking about. But if you look at these symbols as the arrows that we're talking about here, they're right there. I mean, that arrow coming down was so important that Jesus did come here to become a human. The hypostatic union, as Zach talked about. The cross, of course, the atonement, but then the tomb and coming forth, this idea that you can be glorified and not have to worry about death. And then you got those, those last two arrows, which is where we're in now, because he left here. He poured out the Holy Spirit, and we're just waiting for the final component.
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The evil one's still around.
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Still around.
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But guess what? We kicked him out of our world. And every day he comes to us just like he came to Adam and Eve. And we're like, nope, that's been taken care of. You lost. Get back to sharing Jesus. I mean, this is what we're doing as God's representative.
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So, Maddie, I guess you'll queue up some, just as I am. If there's anybody out there in that other world, we're saying, come on over, because this will change your life forever. So we'll pick this up next time in John 15. Thanks for listening to the Unashamed podcast. Help us out by leaving a rating and review on Apple Podcast. And don't miss an episode by subscribing on YouTube. And be sure to click the little bell and choose all notifications to watch every episode.