Ep 1195 | Jase Officiates His Son’s Wedding & Miss Kay’s Blessing to the Newlyweds Moves Jase to Tears

Summary

Unashamed with the Robertson Family

Episode 1195: Jase Officiates His Son’s Wedding & Miss Kay’s Blessing to the Newlyweds Moves Jase to Tears
Date: October 27, 2025

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Episode Overview

In this heartfelt and often humorous episode, the Robertson family dives deeply into the story of Jase officiating his son Cole’s wedding. The conversation weaves together candid reflections on family, faith, and the challenges and joys of marriage. The hosts (Al, Zach, Jase, and guest appearances from Missy and references to Miss Kay) share behind-the-scenes moments of the wedding weekend, discuss the foundations of Christian marriage, and offer wisdom on parenting and generational faith. Memorable anecdotes, including wedding day mishaps, touching blessings, and philosophical musings, create a rich tapestry for listeners—especially those navigating similar milestones.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

Reuniting and Setting the Scene

• [01:06] The guys return to the studio, sharing a sense of being on the go amidst busy family and ministry lives.
• [01:12] Discussion opens with Jase's role officiating his son Cole’s wedding; a notable surprise that Zach made it despite a scheduling conflict.

The Wedding Weekend Experience

• [02:00 – 07:10]
  • Al and Zach share efforts and sacrifices to attend the wedding (“I literally got up at 2:30 in the morning, drove back to Austin, got on a 5am flight to get to Birmingham. No, I made the sacrifice…” – Al, [02:03])
  • Zach expresses regret for missing his first family wedding, emphasizing the importance of presence.
  • Jase details how performing a family wedding is emotionally challenging (“…performing the wedding, especially for my family, I’d rather just be a dad and sit there...” – Jase, [03:59])
  • Jase and Cole’s playful “game of chicken” about whether Jase would really officiate until the bride-to-be asked him directly (“I need to hear that question from your future wife…” – Jase, [04:33])

Planning the Ceremony and Challenges

• [07:11 – 09:23]
  • Jase was approached with practical and personal concerns, e.g., wearing his signature hat at the ceremony (and the reactions to it).
  • The wedding was held at a Birmingham country club, not a church, which shifted the feel and logistics.

Pre-Wedding Golf Shenanigans

• [09:03 – 14:33]
  • The groomsmen and family enjoy a competitive golf scramble with a stern-yet-humorous course pro (“If you do not play in the allotted time, we will come, speed you up or throw you out.” – Jase quoting the club pro, [10:01]).

The Ceremony: Structure and Surprises

• [14:33 – 23:41]
  • Jase describes last-minute preparations and the difficulty of balancing sincerity, brevity, and emotional investment (“…it’s not about you but you don’t want to be a distraction.” – Jase, [15:03]).
  • Wedding planners made things more interesting by denying him a microphone stand or podium, forcing him to project his voice and juggle Bible and notes.
  • The importance placed on brevity for the ceremony (“Their one request: we don’t want it long.” – Jase, [15:28])

The Opening Joke: Risk and Reward

• [19:40 – 22:03]
  • Jase shares his internal debate over opening with a classic “If anyone objects...” line, ultimately delivering it for comic relief: “If there’s anyone here who has just cause for why these two should not be married... you may go now.” ([21:30])
    • The joke landed well, lightening the mood and setting the tone.

Ceremony’s Theological Foundation

• [26:23 – 32:50]
  • Jase intentionally began with a Genesis reference about the institution of marriage and the unity of man and woman, tying theology directly to the practical wedding rite (“God is the architect of marriage… Every house is built by someone, but God is the builder of everything.” – Jase, [29:55]).
  • Zach and Al reflect on the importance of marriage as a biblical institution predating all religions and societies.
  • Jase describes integrating Miss Kay’s message to the bride (Emilyn), revealing her absence due to health but emotional presence through her blessing.

Miss Kay’s Blessing Moves Jase

• [31:25 – 41:37]
  • Miss Kay’s legacy: her mantra, “fight for your marriage,” and how her perseverance influenced generations (“If she hadn’t had that mantra… we wouldn’t be standing here.” – Jase, [31:25])
  • Phil Robertson’s tradition of quoting 1 Corinthians 7:28: “Those who marry will face many troubles in this life, and I want to spare you this.”
  • Jase is visibly moved when reading Miss Kay's message during the ceremony, his emotions briefly overpowering his voice:
    • “I did get emotional one time… my voice just stopped working for five seconds when I made that line about, you Gotta fight for your marriage.” – Jase, [41:05]

Parenting, Generations, and Family Legacy

• [37:44 – 43:25]
  • Al and Zach reflect on raising children through “ups and downs,” sharing encouragement and lessons from Missy and Jase (“Don’t ever give up on your kids. Always push, push, push…” – Missy to Zach, [39:00])
  • The transition from parent to supportive in-law: allowing grown children to make their own marital journey, learning to “let them fail, let them work out the difficulty…”

Marriage and Family as Godly Witness

• [43:39 – 47:04]
  • The role of Bible study and authenticity in building family faith—Jase shares how openness about spiritual life at home translates to deep bonds and influence on kids and in-laws.
  • Importance of “acting the same way in private as we do in public” and modeling a Christ-centered life.

Personal Reflections & New Traditions

• [54:23 – 55:57]
  • Family group texts from the honeymoon—signaling healthy, joyful new beginnings and continued closeness.
  • Zach’s favorite wedding wisdom: the ceremony is the “birth of a new family,” celebrating the couple as a new entity.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Jase debating officiating his own son’s wedding:
  “Performing the wedding, especially for my family, I’d rather just be a dad and sit there.” [03:59]

• Al on flying across the country to get there:
  “No, I made the sacrifice and got to see old Cole man get married to a beautiful woman. That was a beautiful wedding.” [02:13]

• Jase on the importance of hearing the bride’s request directly:
  “I need to hear that question from your future wife.” [04:33]

• Jase’s ice-breaking joke at the ceremony:
  “If there’s anyone here who has just cause for why these two should not be married... you may go now.” [21:30]

• Zach on marriage’s biblical roots:
  “Marriage… predates Christianity, predates Judaism, predates any of the world’s religions. It literally was a gift from Almighty God to the very first man and the very first woman.” [28:49]

• Miss Kay’s timeless advice:
  “You fight for your marriage.” (recounted by Jase) [31:25, 41:05]

• Phil Robertson’s classic wedding reminder:
  “Those who marry will face many troubles in this life, and I want to spare you of this.” (1 Corinthians 7:28, quoted by Jase) [31:26]

• Al encouraging perseverance in parenting:
  “Don’t ever give up on your kids. Always push, push, push, push, push. Even when they’re in that season where it’s tough. …Love covers the multitude of sin.” [39:00]

• Zach on multigenerational faith:
  “If you don’t have some depth from God, and that comes from studying, that comes from having a relationship with him … in your family, it can become a void and just a landscape of nothing, which is why your kids would then look to other places to fill that void.” [47:41]

• Jase’s summary lesson:
  “Love in its truest form is you doing something that you don’t necessarily want to do for the benefit of others… That’s what I should do. I should go up there and do that, especially for the little kids there. I mean, this is raw and it was real.” [49:21]

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• [01:12] – Jase expresses the emotional difficulty of officiating Cole’s wedding
• [04:33] – The “game of chicken” over who asks Jase to officiate
• [09:03] – Golf outing with stern club pro; bonding before the ceremony
• [15:03] – The challenge of emotionally connecting but not overshadowing the couple in a wedding ceremony
• [21:30] – Jase’s opening joke lightens the ceremony
• [26:23] – Jase lays down theological marriage foundations
• [29:55] – Jase shifts to Hebrews 3:4, God as “the builder of everything”
• [31:25] – Miss Kay’s message and Phil’s 1 Corinthians quote, moving Jase to tears
• [39:00] – Missy’s encouragement: never stop fighting for your kids
• [41:05] – Jase gets emotional reading Miss Kay’s line
• [47:41] – Zach discusses spiritual leadership and filling the family “well”
• [49:21] – Jase on love as sacrificial action, vulnerability in officiating
• [54:23] – The significance of the honeymoon family text
• [55:57] – Zach praises the wedding as a “birth of a new family”

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Podcast Tone and Style

True to their trademark Louisiana authenticity, the Robertsons blend spiritual depth, humor, and vulnerability. The conversation is peppered with gentle joking, affectionate teasing, and candid admissions of nerves, especially from Jase. Faithfulness to the Gospel and the importance of generational family legacy are constant threads, underscored by real-life experiences.

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Conclusion

This episode of Unashamed is an intimate look into the Robertson family’s life as they celebrate and reflect upon the union of Jase’s son and the new daughter-in-law. Through stories, scriptural insights, and honest emotion, the episode offers practical biblical wisdom on marriage, parenting, and the unending call to “fight for your marriage”—leaving listeners with hope, laughter, and encouragement wherever they are on their own faith and family journeys.

Transcript

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[Jason]

I am unashamed. What about you.

[Zach]

Jace? We're back on unashamed. I feel like I'm back in the studio. Aren't you?

[Jason]

Yeah.

[Zach]

You and I just. We both hit town yesterday. It's like. But we're heading out again soon. It's like we're in, we're gone, we're. We're somewhere. You had a wedding. Oh, I saw pictures of the wedding, Zach. You were there.

[Al]

I was there. I was there.

[Jason]

That was the most shocking development. When I looked up and saw Zach, of course I had been there.

[Al]

Yeah. I don't know.

[Jason]

Why.

[Al]

I don't know.

[Zach]

Maybe it's because when he comes by you, he just blows the horn on the way.

[Al]

Like, how did you get an invitation to this thing?

[Jason]

What was. I figure if you see a man four or five days a week equivalent of that, he would say, oh yeah, I'll see you there. No, nothing, Nothing.

[Zach]

He just. He wanted to leave you hanging. Well, he. What he was doing is leaving his options open, Jace. Because I know how Zach is. If a better offer had come along, he'd have been like, I had to.

[Al]

That's not true.

[Zach]

I had to go to L. A?

[Al]

Actually, no, I was in outside of Austin, Texas, at a men's retreat. I left early. I got up. I literally got up at 2:30 in the morning, drove back to Austin, got on a 5am flight to get to Birmingham. No, I made the sacrifice and got to see old Cole man get married to a beautiful woman. That was a beautiful wedding.

[Zach]

I hated this. The first one I missed of any of my nephews and nieces. And I told. I called Cole as soon as they had set their date. And I said, cole, man, I can't. If there was any other event but this one, I might even see if they could move it or something. But this was the one Zach, we missed last Year. Because the hurricane.

[Al]

Yeah.

[Zach]

His first event we've ever missed. And we couldn't even tell them till day of. And so one of the guys on their board had to do his testimony, which turned out great. I mean, the Holy Spirit took over. So it turned out to be a great thing. But it was like, I have to do this event. If I have to walk back to North Carolina, I'm doing this event. So I missed it, unfortunately.

[Al]

What paid off for me?

[Zach]

How did J. Stoozer, let me ask you, since because it's hard for. To self. What would you call it? It's hard to.

[Al]

To brag on yourself.

[Zach]

And.

[Al]

Well, he did. It was really good. In fact, I told him afterwards, I said, you that. That one right there.

[Jason]

From.

[Al]

From now on, whenever I do a wedding, I will. I will employ something he did that I thought was really good.

[Jason]

So he started that kind of made my. My day on that because he. Well, there was him and there was a elderly woman from the other side of our. Of our new family.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Jason]

That caught some of the theological foundation because it was. It did not.

[Zach]

Did the podcast fuel some of your thinking? Is that what.

[Jason]

Oh, no, just, you know, it was. It was a whirlwind when you. You know how I feel about doing weddings.

[Zach]

Al, I know you love them.

[Jason]

Well, I do love them, but performing the wedding, especially for my family, I'd rather just be a dad and sit there. And so it's a.

[Zach]

It's a hard role because you're called upon to do something specific, but at the same time, you don't want to overshadow the couple. So it's a difficult role from a speaking standp. It's not easy. We've all done it because you're kind of, you know, for me, I used to just be, in some cases, an efficient. Like, I didn't even know the people that well, so.

[Jason]

But.

[Zach]

But, you know, you had a role.

[Jason]

That was part of the. Part of the deal here. You know, Cole don't say a whole lot. Yeah. And I kept pushing for a meeting before the wedding. Like they asked me or Cole asked me. And I was like, well, I'm going to need to hear that. That question from your future wife. He's like, dad, will you do my wedding? And he said, oh, yeah, we made this decision together. I said, but still, I don't know her very well. We're getting to know each other.

[Zach]

Getting to know.

[Jason]

So I didn't hear that question until the day before the wedding. So at that point, I had no. Nothing Prepared. We drove over there and I.

[Zach]

So you were still waiting on the. The first.

[Jason]

I was serious. I wasn't bluffing. I think he thought I was. I mean, I was headed that direction.

[Zach]

Well, y' all had a little game of chicken going.

[Jason]

Yeah. I was like, I need to hear it. Because I just thought. I don't know, what, were you prepared.

[Zach]

To just go up just to not do it at the last second? Who was gonna.

[Jason]

I had the vowels and the I do, but I just thought, I'm going to hear that. And so really it worked out because I got there, Missy drove us to Birmingham and I kind of got the basic. Because there's a. There's a. It's busy. Yeah, there's a. I mean, the wedding. There's a lot of things that you have to do.

[Zach]

Oh, yeah.

[Jason]

And so I had all the basic skeleton outline, but you know, I just had to had a deep conversation with him. But really what happened was in the rehearsal dinner, I got to know her.

[Zach]

A lot better because they're telling all the stuff.

[Jason]

Well, they had a huge. What do you call those people that flank them? Bridesmaids and bridal party. Groomsmen.

[Zach]

Yeah, the party. The wedding party.

[Jason]

So they got shared and. And then we, we had a conversation, me, Cole and Emily, which is his new wife now your daughter in law. And it was good. So we got the expectations because I once again said, look, because when they first asked me, I was like, you could do better this. I don't think I'm your guy.

[Zach]

Which is what you said every time.

[Jason]

I told that.

[Zach]

Every time.

[Jason]

And I said, but I wanted to ask her that. She's like, no, no, we would love for you to do it. I was like, look, I'm not a normal preacher and I don't know your family real well. I don't know if they want a. Like a rigid, ritualistic type because I'm. I have a hard time with that. So they were.

[Al]

Well, you had a. Well, Al, he had a. A hat on there. I. Which I've never seen.

[Zach]

I saw the hat. Yeah.

[Jason]

Yeah.

[Al]

I never seen a preacher where.

[Zach]

Well, well, it was. Cuz he has to keep the hair out of his. I understand why he does it.

[Jason]

Yeah.

[Zach]

Cuz if that tangle mess. If you didn't have a hat, trust me, it would be worse.

[Al]

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[Jason]

Yeah.

[Al]

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[Zach]

I know why.

[Jason]

It was the wedding planner. Actually, you know, we had a conversation about that. Just like, you're wearing a hat. I was like, well, here's the problem. Because there was. There was a series of unfortunate events. We actually didn't have it at a church building. We had it at, like, it was a kind of a golf.

[Zach]

I thought it looked like a golf course.

[Al]

It was a country club. It was a country club in Birmingham, Alabama.

[Jason]

Is that what we still call.

[Zach]

Was it a nice country club?

[Jason]

We played golf the. Yeah. During the day with all the groomsmen. Had a little healthy competition.

[Zach]

Did you take them?

[Jason]

Which. Me and Reed, we scrambled. Because this course was built in, like, 1929. And it was fantastic. I mean, fantastic. And the club pro came out because there was 14 of us fixing a play. Yeah. And we had the first tee times, and he came out drill sergeant style, was hilarious. It's probably the hardest I've laughed over some kind of event that was fixing to happen because this guy was like, this course has been here almost 100 years, and we have the tee time stacked behind y'. All. And we're. This is a service that we're providing for y'. All. So let me go through the basics. Number one, you're scrambling. Pick a partner. Number two, if you do not play in the allotted time, we will come, speed you up or throw you out. I mean, it was very Kind of like in a chuckly way. But I was, he. He meant business. He showed the prompt.

[Zach]

You weren't gonna wreck his day.

[Jason]

To fix divots to. To fill sand. Filled divots that you make, but divots on the green. I mean, so it was kind of a gulp. But I kept laughing because I was like, this guy is making it clear, don't tear this course up.

[Zach]

What you think about it, A bunch of, you know, young men, like wedding party.

[Al]

They're sophisticated that these are, I mean, well, this one.

[Zach]

But I can understand from his perspective because a lot of these things, trust me, I've been around wedding situations where it's a big drunken bash and you got a bunch of idiots. I mean, it wouldn't be that for Cole's group. But I'm saying, you know, I've seen the groups before.

[Jason]

That was the feeling. And it was so hilarious. And so then we're kind of making the team, which I liked. I thought, yeah, I don't want to be out here all day.

[Zach]

Well, of course.

[Al]

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[Zach]

And if people, if some of the guys don't play much, you sure need somebody.

[Jason]

Well, here's what happened about three or four members of the family that was going to be married in. After they heard the speech, they had golf clubs, they said, we're out, we're Just going to ride. So he kind of thinned the herd right off the bat.

[Zach]

You know, Zach, this is like the professor that comes in and reams you out the very first time. Because if you're not going to be serious about this course, you might as well hit the road.

[Jason]

So funny. So then we started picking the teams. Well, Cole, who's fixed to get married, hadn't played golf, and. Because I said, when's the last time you played Go? Because after that speech, I mean, there's dew on the ground the first hole. There's out of bounds on the right, and there's a creek on the left all the way down. There's nowhere to miss it. Yeah. And Cole said, oh, I'll start it off. Which was. I was like, okay. He teed it up 300 yards, right down the middle, which I said, that looks like a man that's fixed to get married.

[Zach]

That's a confident man that does that.

[Jason]

And the next guy did the same thing. And the third member of their team, so they kind of figured out who the worst golfers were. The third member hit it dead right into the clubhouse, ball rattling around. So that was a little embarrassing. But, you know, the drill sergeant was looking around like, hey, it happens. But. So that's kind of how. How it started. But I'm not sure where I was going with that, but it was. It was fun. Oh. So we scrambled, right. So one of the team shot 4 under, and me and Reed and our partner, who hadn't played golf much, we shot three under, and Cole's team shot one under. So we all the three teams.

[Zach]

That's pretty good. It was a very difficult course.

[Jason]

So you think. And I think if.

[Zach]

Especially do busting, that's. That's the worst.

[Jason]

Well, and the greens were real fast and tricky. So, I mean, if we had a putted. Well, we played well enough to shoot eight under, but making a putt was pretty difficult. But anyway, so we kind of. To get back to the. To the message, I guess.

[Zach]

Yeah. What was your. Tell us your. Just your basic there for you.

[Jason]

Well, we.

[Zach]

After.

[Jason]

We had this session with the rehearsal dinner, and we got to know everybody, and I had that conversation. And of course, that went late.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Jason]

The rehearsal dinner. And then that night, didn't get much sleep, but next morning, I woke up, and about three hours into it, you know, I had it. And because you want to. It's not about you, but you don't want to be a distraction. Right.

[Zach]

That's on 10. That's the tricky part about it so the wedding. But it is your son.

[Jason]

So you do have some wedding planner. And my wife, when I got there, they're like, you know, I have my Bible, and I had about four pages of notes here, which. Two of the pages are actually the vowels that, you know, so. Because they said that don't be long. And I was like, that was their one request. We don't want it long. Yeah. I don't know how long it was.

[Zach]

Which is what everybody tells me. That's. That's the one.

[Al]

And it wasn't long. I mean, that.

[Zach]

Tops.

[Al]

They.

[Jason]

That wasn't.

[Al]

Well, that's what I was worried about when I saw Jace. I didn't know you were preaching, and I saw you walk out, I was like, here we go. This is gonna be a.

[Zach]

You're thinking about podcast.

[Al]

I'm thinking we got 45 minutes right here. I mean, this is. He'll get it. I mean, we got. I know it won't go over 50, because that's what we're all used to doing. No ads, though. I know there weren't many.

[Zach]

Did Maddie have to count him down for him to start the wedding?

[Al]

I was waiting for it.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Al]

A three. Two.

[Jason]

Two. But.

[Al]

But what he did. This is what. This was different. So at first, because, I mean, I thought he's forgot that he's supposed. Because the. You know, the father, Jimbo, who's awesome, by the way, who's got to meet him. He listens to the podcast.

[Jason]

The father of the bride.

[Zach]

Oh, he listens to the broadcast.

[Jason]

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. They. They were. They watched Duck Dynasty, and so we. We had gotten past that. Awkward. But when I first met their family, when they got engaged, we kind of had the first meeting, Right. And they were asking me about Duck Dynasty episodes, which I couldn't remember, but yeah. And you have that awkward conversation, and before Zach tells you about the sermon, I had a few hurdles to get through because I was a little nervous. I mean, Zach, Miami and Missy said I didn't act like I was nervous, but I was. I mean, it's my. I'm emotionally invested in this, you know, and so I'm like, I love my son, and it's just different. So they said, no, Mike. It was like, we can't have a mic stand up there. And I was like, well, why not? And they're like, well, we don't want it in the pictures. So I. You know, I. I'm used to a mic.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Jason]

So, yeah. I don't like it to speak three.

[Zach]

Times louder, which Is another awkward because you got people.

[Al]

But it was small. It was. It was kind of real intimate. Like, I mean, we were. We were all packed in there.

[Zach]

It's not that you don't have the voice to care, but I'm with J. I don't want to have to be loud if I'm speaking to people.

[Jason]

I don't know what Zach thought, but I was speaking three times louder than normal, and only because we tested it out, and the little music operators in the back of the room, I would start talking, and they're like, nope, nope. So I raised it. Nope. So about the third level, they said, that's it. And so that was the voice that I talked with 90% of the time. And then they said, no podium. I was like, well, I got a Bible and I got four pages of notes. And they're like, nope. I was like, why not? They're like, we don't want a podium in the pictures. I was like, okay, let's make this as difficult.

[Zach]

Yeah, it sounds like a production team just followed you to a wedding and.

[Al]

Yeah, but, you know, if you're not used to. If you're not in the vein of, like, rhythm of preaching weddings, I mean, it is.

[Jason]

It may.

[Al]

I got. I did one two weeks ago, and I got nervous. I don't get nervous anymore. Speaking in public.

[Zach]

I'm telling you. I'm telling you. Out of everything I did in all my, you know, pastoring years and ministry years, weddings were the most difficult and for a lot of different reasons. One is, it's also two days that you're involved in these situations, and a lot of times, if there's a problem in this family, you. You will find it on the night before, which I did many times.

[Jason]

So. So. And then I'll let Zach break down the speech. The one thing when we were driving over, Missy was driving over. She said, so have you got your wedding outline? And I was like, no. And I told her the bit about I'm waiting on the conversation, which made her nervous. I said, the only thing I have is I said, I want to do one joke, and it's never been done before, but. And I told her, well, I'll give you the reason for the joke first. I said, I have. I believe that my son and this woman are the most compatible couple that I pre marriage that I've ever seen. I'm like, if this is the exact.

[Zach]

Opposite of his parents, because, remember, your guy told y'. All. No, no.

[Jason]

Oh, exactly. I was like, this just. This is incompatible. This is Right. And I knew it was going to be a small family wedding with just friends. And I. I told her. I was like. I said, but I'm not going to do the joke. I said, but I thought about doing one. And she said, well, what was it? I was like, well, no. First she said, well, why are. Why are you not doing it? And I was like, well, I did go to Bible school, and I know that every professor there, I know, my brother I was speaking of, you would say, do not do this, especially when you don't know half the people are going to get married. I was like, but I really want to do, because I think it's the right time, and I think it'd be really funny, and it'd be a good iceberg.

[Zach]

And, you know, Jaz, you're unintentionally funny. If you tried to be intentionally funny, it was funny.

[Jason]

And that. That also. So I said, but I'm not doing it, because at the end of the day, I prayed about it, and I thought about it, and I just think it's too risky. I don't want to alienate this new family that we're going to be involved in. It's risky. And she's like, well, tell me what it is. And I said, no, because I know you would. You wouldn't want me to do it. I was. She's like, tell me. I said, what I want to do for the first time in the history of weddings. I said, I want to do the part where it says if there's anyone here who has just cause for why these two should not be married. I said, I want to say that, and then say, you may go now. And I said, but. And she's like, that's hilarious. I think you should do it. And I was like, yeah, yeah. And she's like, no, I'm serious. You should do that, because I feel the same way. That's just ridiculous that we're even doing that in our modern culture. I was like, babe, you're talking me into this. So Zach was there, and I did it.

[Zach]

You did it?

[Jason]

I did it landed.

[Zach]

It was open.

[Jason]

Landed. And I think I thought you were going.

[Zach]

I would have said if I would have done that joke, I would have said, pause and said, keep it to yourself.

[Jason]

No, I said, you may go now. Everyone laughed. But here's al. Here was the bonus, because I don't feel like you should get up there and be funny or make it about you. But then I made the point with passion. These two people, I am convinced, are brought Together by God almighty, you turned it into. Oh, I did it with some passion.

[Zach]

He did.

[Jason]

But then it just turned out great because the poor father of the bride, they changed up how they were going to do the song. Well, I thought we were all going to stand and sing. They had a woman lead a song who was fantastic, by the way.

[Al]

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[Jason]

Saying great is thy faithfulness. Well, everybody got the memo except the father of the bride that this change occurred. We all had a little meeting. Well, he wasn't in the little pre meeting. They're like, no, she's just gonna sing it. That's what the family wants to do. But his cue to, like when I say, who gives this woman in marriage? And he says, her mother and I. Well, then I was going to say, let us stand, you know, and as we're standing to sing this song, he was going to go to his seat, but they said, no. She's just going to sing it, so everybody's going to remain seated. So when I said that, he said, her mother and I. Well, then I was going to introduce the singer and I was. I was waiting on him to go to his seat, but he was just kind of looking bewildered, like. And then I realized, oh, no, he doesn't realize we've changed this and he needs to go sit down. And so I thought about saying what I'm fixing to say that I did say. And I thought, ah, that's risky. But I know this. I know this will break the tension that's mounting right now. And I said, you may go now. Well, it's the same thing I said.

[Al]

It was kind of like by.

[Jason]

Because it's like the same.

[Al]

Well, she just. I mean, he gave the daughter away. And he's standing there and Jason, like, okay, you can go now. It was pretty funny.

[Jason]

It was funny. But he kind of turned red. And I told him later. I was like, we love you, Jimbo. I apologize for that. And he's like, oh, I took it for the team. He's like, I really didn't know what to do.

[Zach]

You kind of did a two style little Johnny Tyler. You did a. Oh, I didn't realize you were there. You made me go to Austin.

[Al]

You might go now.

[Jason]

But I think everyone knew I was joking, so it was okay.

[Al]

It landed. It landed well, I don't know. I guess the producer in me, I was kind of nervous for you, Jace. I mean, I don't know why I was thinking, I hope. Does he know that? Like, the whole time I'm like, you know, because when you're not up there on the stage, you know, you kind of know. You're a little more aware of the process and how it should flow. And I knew. And when the father or the bride walked the bride down the aisle, at that point, you're supposed to say, who gives this woman in marriage? Or something to that effect. And then the father says, her family. And I. And then the father goes and sits down. And then you start preaching, well, Jace. And I thought, I didn't know you did this on purpose. Jace goes right into the sermon, and I'm like, I don't think he realizes he's supposed to.

[Jason]

I realized it. And that was the one thing Zach pointed out. I just felt like in our culture now, I just wanted to lay the foundation that God is the architect of marriage. And I wanted to say that right off the bat. I mean, I had an icebreaker, you know, love is in the air. This is a joyous occasion. I'm looking at what I did.

[Al]

Well, you. You read out of Genesis, a man shall leave his father and mother and be united with his father, become one flesh. But I'm watching it now. That's in ours. But he started off with that, with the dad's, like, sitting there. But it was. It worked out awesome because it was like a. A physical demonstration of this theological truth that's in the very foundation of marriage. Because he. Jimbo's standing there with his daughter.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Al]

And he gives the verse, like. Like a man shall leave his father. So you see kind of this, like, separation, which is in your. Your notes when you do a wedding now. But the idea of separation and then going.

[Zach]

I do like the idea of doing it there at the beginning. That's a great.

[Jason]

Oh, well, I. I worded it into my sentence. I had this all written out. I was like, based on. And I quoted. I put. I actually took two verses, one from Genesis 1 and one from the back half of 1, or maybe it's in 2. And I combined them that God created male and female in his image. And for this reason, a man will leave his father, mother's wife, and the two will become one flesh. And so then I was like. And in. Based on that, who gives this woman in marriage? Because it's not just the. The man and the daughter are leaving their parents. Well, the parents are. You need to be a part of this leave and cleave process.

[Zach]

Yeah, it's the foundation building.

[Jason]

Yeah, exactly. And so I asked him. So it was kind of some legs to that question. And so Zach noticed that. But I thought, hey, these days, I think we need to bring that principal back.

[Zach]

That's good.

[Jason]

There's a male, there's a female. They make a perfect one flesh just based on human anatomy. And this was his idea for them to form a family unit. And so that's what I did.

[Zach]

Well, what I like about it is, outside of even a point I always make in a wedding, is that marriage is such a strong institution because it predates Christianity, it predates Judaism, it predates any of the world's religions. I mean, it literally was a gift from almighty God to the very first man and the very first woman. And so you think about all the thousands of years of human tradition, and yet here, here, this last Saturday night, Jace is still in a setting where we're still implementing the things that God created for us to do from the garden to today. And so that's why when you see these Attacks on. On. On family or marriage or when you get into all these different things that are. Attack. It has to be of some point of evil or lies, because this has been a part of human tradition since we've been around. It's such a crucial point to me. And I love the way you did it, because I love that illustration that you're watching it happen. That's powerful.

[Jason]

Yeah. Which led to them when he sat down and we sang the song Great is Thy Faithfulness. I started off that God is the architect of marriage. And I went to Hebrews 3:4. Every house is built by someone, but God is the builder of everything. So that was kind of the theme as this went on. So then I used a real personal illustration with our parents, because my mom sent a message to Emilyn because she was really sad that she couldn't go. She was not physically able to go. And she said, tell Emilyn.

[Zach]

Scratch that.

[Jason]

Tell Emilyn that she is the most beautiful woman that Cole could have ever gotten inside and out. And so then I said, well, what do you want me to tell Cole? And she's like, well, just tell her that in front of him, and that'll be good enough, you know, which was kind of. Everybody laughed when I said that. But, you know, I found out later that, you know, even when she came over to Dad's funeral, I wasn't aware that on the way to the funeral in the cars, that Emily held my mom's hand the whole time, you know? And so I brought this point out about how different my parents are in that Kay always had this mantra that you fight for your marriage. And I talked about that, and I said, you know, if she hadn't had that mantra go, I'm pretty sure we wouldn't be standing here.

[Zach]

You may not even be here.

[Jason]

And I was like, and then there's my dad, who every wedding he was ever involved, involved in, in any capacity, started off with a very obscure passage, First Corinthians 7:28. And I'll quote it because I'm sure no one out there knows what First Corinthians 7:28 says. And I'll do it in my Phil voice. Those who marry will face many troubles in this life. And I want to spare you of this, which everybody kind of chuckled it, but I'm like, you know, he was right.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Jason]

He was saying, it's not easy get married. Trouble is coming. And I thought it was a good way to build on the foundation that God made them male and female. Of course. Then I went to the roles in marriage. It's both a Jesus role, but it's different. You're a man created by God. You're a woman. There are plenty of differences, not only just in the body, but our emotional makeup. And somehow that joining together, especially as you're vowing this to God, you not only complement each other, but you complete each other. And I said that. And so then I went through the rolls. I'm like, you trust God's process of this? And that was the basic gist of it.

[Al]

I thought it was great. Me and Jase looked like. We looked like, yeah, there's a picture, y'.

[Zach]

All. Maybe Matt. It'll show it. It's. You're both in your black suits, and it' a kind of a Blues brother. If you'd have had a hat.

[Jason]

I said the same thing.

[Zach]

Yeah, it could have been a Blues Brothers.

[Jason]

I said, which one is Jake and which one is Elwood?

[Al]

Yeah, we cleaned up. We cleaned up. Well, we had our black tie.

[Jason]

Only I only have worn that hat twice. And it was the other one.

[Zach]

I said, reed's wedding.

[Jason]

Yeah. When I did Reed's wedding. And.

[Zach]

Well, it's funny, because I was sitting at a table full of people while you were doing the wedding, and. And someone sent me a picture from. I guess it was one of my kids that was there, sent me a picture of you. You were speaking, actually, at the wedding. So the people at the table I was telling was like, we're missing my. My nephew's wedding to be here tonight. And they're.

[Jason]

Oh.

[Zach]

And I said, no, no, it's. It's okay. So then I was showing people the picture of you. I said, this is Jason. This is his wedding hat, is what I call it. So, Jason, this morning, it was cool, crisp outside. It had the feel it. We're getting to duck season. We're getting to the time. We're going to be outdoors a lot.

[Jason]

Duck season is upon us. And the wilderness and woods and swamp, that's always been my happy place.

[Zach]

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[Jason]

I thought it was awesome. I mean, we all stayed at a couple of houses that were big together, five minutes away from where the wedding happened, and it was all of my immediate family and minus Mia for the first time. She had the stomach flu.

[Zach]

Oh, really?

[Jason]

Oh, it was terrible. She was going to do the worship for the rehearsal dinner, but she made the wedding, but she did not feel good. Yeah. And bless her heart, she's just like, I'm not missing this. And so. But. And then we had all of Cole's groomsmen. They were on the compound. But, you know, we had so many Bible studies and just kind of worship moments, and it was just fantastic. But it was. You know, it was a whirlwind of three days. And look, the family that were marrying into, I mean, we couldn't be more joyous about that. So we kind of got to know all them, like, after the wedding. Right. Because then it was.

[Zach]

Yeah, because you spend the rest of now, their lives together. You guys are joined. It's a new family. Zach, what's cool for me and you is we happen to get to be there. The night that Cole introduced Emily to Jason, Missy, because it was at the Caleb Awards when we were getting our podcast, that was the first time anybody had met her, because that's true.

[Jason]

But I felt so terrible because we were involved in the program. And so it's like, I'm like, hey, hope this works out. We might have had two sentences because it was so busy. And look, that's happened a lot, like, every time we're together.

[Zach]

But that also takes some pressure off, too, because, you know, y' all were in the world we have to be in when we're in settings like that, when you're on, you know, because you're. You're up in front of people. But for her to get to see that and kind of see this is what it's like to marry into this crazy group of people. I mean, I guess. I guess maybe it's not a bad thing.

[Jason]

Well, I think most people who are, you know, at the sound of my voice, you don't realize when you go these events and things, it's chaos and every. They have everything planned out to where you go. It's just hard to sit down and.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Jason]

Have a real conversation with anyone. It's just mass chaos and organized.

[Al]

But it was encouraging for me to see because y' all are. You guys. You and Missy are a little bit ahead of us in kind of like life in terms of your age and. And where that. Whatever point of you guys are in. Y' all in the grandkid phase. You got two kids, married. Yeah. Mia's, you know, almost out of college, and we still got little kids. And so one of the things I told Missy, I went up to her during the reception and I said, you know, really, you guys have raised amazing children. Like, all three of them love Jesus. All three of them. I mean, two of them that are married, married, godly Christian women that I just are amazing and. But there was times when I look back at your life, I thought, I don't know how. I don't know how that was going to turn out. And it made me feel good, though, because we're raising kids and it's so encouraging. I said, but y' all, like. But, like, even the ups and downs are just raised. I think everybody kind of goes through that. I said, but, like, it made me feel really. Give me a great deal of peace. I was like, you know, you train a child right, the Bible says, and they may drift away, but they will come back. And you guys are a living testimony. And Missy said that she looked me and right in the eye, she said, I'm going to tell you something, Zach. Don't ever give up on your kids. Always push, push, push, push, push. Even when they're in that season where it's tough. And that was super encouraging to me because she's like, you know what? We were not going to relentless on our. On our children. And she said, never did. And now, you know, they all turned out to love Jesus. For me, that's an encouragement word to anybody listening right now. You think, man, my kids are this, my kids are that. Like, you just keep pursuing them. Like, don't stop. Do not Stop. Because love covers the multitude of sin.

[Zach]

Well, and you want to raise them to the point too, Zach. And this is one of the things I've learned because I'm a step ahead of both of y', all, because now I have. I mean, I, for example, a 40 year old kid. And which is, I mean, you then, as your kid being turning 40 is like, really? And what happened? But the idea is, is that, man, it's back to that Ephesians, because you, you probably did some out of Ephesians 5, but Ephesians 6, you know, he goes right into that idea of parenting right after that.

[Jason]

Well, spiritual war, right?

[Zach]

And the responsibility of children to parent. But that, man, that verse, you know, do not exasperate your children. You have to discipline them in a way that is best for their future and what they're doing, but in a way that you can also maintain an adult relationship. That crossover is so crucial because I see so many people that miss it. And then what happens is once that happens, it's so hard then to have that relationship the way you want it to be going forward as adults. Because it's going to be, you know, it's going to be bumpy. I mean, you're going to have to be the bad guy that.

[Jason]

Letting them go, that leaving in Cleveland, which is why Zach made such a big deal about that. That process too is difficult because you just want to hover. But that's not healthy. I look back on that. Some of those moments were, I think, where you're fighting for your kids the whole time, which is the word Missy's always used. Just in private with me, she's like, I mean, we gotta keep fighting, you know, keep fighting.

[Zach]

Which is kind of what your point was earlier about mom saying that, about fighting for the marriage.

[Jason]

Well, right. And that was the one time I got. I did get emotional one time. And what. You know what's so weird about it? I knew I wasn't like fixing to cry, but my voice just stopped working for five seconds. And because I think I was looking at Emilyn, she had just. She had a smile on her face and tears were just coming down her face and tears of joy. So Cole had a little bit of deer in the headlights, which is understandable. And so I looked over at Missy, but I was reading the thing about Mom.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Jason]

Oh, she's. I was like, I don't know why I look there. She's. She's lost it. And I just. My voice quit working for a second when I made that line about, you Gotta fight for your marriage. Because I remember all those conversations my wife and I had. But the point I was gonna make is once they did get married, even like Reed and Brighton, I was like, babe, we got to fight ourselves now because we got to let them fail, let them work out the difficulty. I was like, they're a marriage unit and we're here when they need us. But it was a little easier for me than her. Not that I think it's easy for anyone, but I look back on how that relationship has evolved. I mean, my oldest son and his wife are two of my best friends in the world. I mean, and really just in the last couple years, you know, with his wife Brighton, who we had on the podcast, I mean, we're, I just love her. And, and we, we're. We're good friends. And so I think that's a blessing. So I appreciate you saying that, but.

[Zach]

That takes effort to Jace, I mean, that, that, that takes effort as adults, like anything else, and sometimes even the hardest thing as par to tell your kid, hey, you know, we did this, we thought this was the right thing to do. Maybe it wasn't, you know, or even apologize sometimes to your kids for things that have happened because I'm telling you, you want to maintain that relationship because it's just important to continue to build those foundations. Was once you lose that man, it's hard to get it back. And I can't imagine being in a situation where I never got. I saw my kids and my grandkids once or twice a year. And I know a lot of people in our culture, that's the way they live. I can't imagine that life. I mean, I can't imagine not being a part of all of it.

[Jason]

You know, I mean, I would say the two things that I've stressed, which weirdly enough, which is, is how you know my daughter in law, how we got to be good friends, was through Bible study.

[Zach]

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[Jason]

Because she made a comment one time. Of course, y' all know me. I don't need an excuse to give a mini sermon. And I've done that throughout my kids lives. You know, when they invite their friends over, I know it's not long, two minutes before we eat. I don't give just a prayer.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Jason]

I'm like, here's the thought for the day. And it's a mini sermon because I want to build that in our relationships. I'm like, let's talk about life's tough. This is the greatest manual. I'm holding my Bible here and let's dig in. This is thrilling. This is exciting. And so it's interesting that I think that one key nugget has always been there. And the other thing I was going to say is we act the same way in private. And I'm talking about my wife and I as we do in public. And I think that really impacts your kids. There's no when we're at the secret life. Yeah. We're having the Bible studies we're having and we go out. There's no that's that and this is this. So I think those two things. I'm not saying that as far as points. I'm saying that I've heard that from my kids that they were really grateful for. We want to talk about the Bible. We want to have discussion. So to get back to Brighton, she said one time in passing a couple years ago, she's like, I've had a lot of questions, but I didn't want to bother you. I was like, questions about what? She's like, the Bible. I was like, that's not bothering me at all. I love that. I was like, send me a text. That one little statement. They just started firing. And I thought, man, what a privilege and honor to be talking to your family and having Bible discussions.

[Zach]

Well, I know a lot of listeners out there. You. We hear from you all the time. In fact, we were on our way to this event, which was in Raleigh, and we were in the Charlotte airport, which is this disaster zone. The Charlotte airport is the airport that wants to be bigger but can't quite get there. And so it's very difficult to navigate. We have 40 minutes. I thought, we'll never going to make it. I already decided we're probably going to rent a car and drive the rest of the way, but we made it, but barely. And so I've got to make a quick bathroom stop and then I'm trying to grab Lisa. We're already late getting on our time to get on the plane. And one of our listeners. Listeners. Comes. He recognized Lisa first. And then. And I felt so bad because I had like literally a minute, you know, to shake his hand and. But he sent me an email later through Jen, who got it to me, and I'm so glad that I did because he told me what the. What the podcast had done for him and then his family. That's what I thought about in the context of what we're talking about, because he was like, you know, I was just so lost and adrift and I just had nothing to offer my family. But then when I got into the word with you guys, I realized, you know, a life change and some depth is what my family needed. And just. It was very heartfelt. I'm sorry, I know you listen to the podcast that I didn't get a chance to talk to you more than that airport, but that's what this is about, what you just described. If you don't have something in your own. Well, if you don't have some depth from God, and that comes from studying, that comes from having a relationship with him, that comes from being willing to share who. What he's done. Your life. If you don't have something in the well, you don't have anything to give. And so in your family, it can become a void and just a landscape of nothing, which is why your kids would then look to other places to find something to fill that void. So, you know, everybody that's listening, you want to. The first foundation is you have to have that relationship with Christ and deepen that and have something that you then have to share. And that's got to be your starting point. If you're not there, I'm glad you're listening to us because this is the place to do it, because we're going to get into the word of God and we're going to talk about how Jesus does that. But I'm telling you, it won't just affect you. It will affect your marriage. Then it will affect your parenting, your generations, and you'll have these same stories.

[Jason]

To go, you know, and that's the bottom line. I think at the end of the day, your kids watch what you do, not what you say. So I think what you say becomes more meaningful after you've lived it out here. And so, look, just seeing those little kids, knowing that I'm uncomfortable about getting up, doing weddings. I mean, let's just face it. I mean, I don't have the look for it or the feel, nor do I want to, but this is a God thing. And I think love in its truest form is you doing something that you don't necessarily want to do for the benefit of others. And I want to leave my family. So it's okay. I was vulnerable, uncomfortable, and my favorite part is when it was over. But, you know, I just feel like that that's what I should do. I mean, I should go up there and do that, especially for the little kids there. I mean, this is raw and it was real. And that was the main comments I got, even from the new side of the family, because to them, I mean, I thought that was the more sophisticated my new family. Well, yeah, but I mean, my presentation, that was about as reverent and sophisticated as I can be. But the phrases I heard were. That was so heartfelt and personal.

[Zach]

And that's what surprises people, Jase, at weddings, because they're not used to. They're used to very formal tone. And, you know, I'm saying it's. And it's usually not, which is what I always. I always embrace family weddings. Of course, again, I admit, I'm a professional person that does it. So, I mean, I've done hundreds of weddings, but when I would do a family wedding, I felt free because, like, you know, I didn't have to worry about offending anybody. It was my family. So I was like, you know, so that's kind of how foul felt like you did. You know, I felt a little free by that.

[Al]

So, yeah, the verse again is, train up a child in the way he should go Even when he is old he will not depart from it. I think you saw that, you know, Saturday Saturday evening. That's what. That's what. That's what I saw Saturday evening. It was absolutely beautiful. I'm glad we get to be a part of it.

[Jason]

Well, and.

[Zach]

And the thing about con man is that he. To me, he's. Out of all your children days, he. He has the most Jace like tendencies, like, from just his life. And me seeing you grow up and him, because you're like that too, which people would be surprised because you're like. You're willing to talk and you're willing to share with people, but you've always been like a quieter person. That's the way Cole was. I mean, he is. And so I've always seen the tendencies there. He has to me the most qualities like that.

[Jason]

But then Reed's got everything but one thing. He's like a million times smarter than I am. I mean, this guy. So it's caveat. I mean, that dude, he'll start talking sometimes, and I'm like, okay, you need to call Zach, tell him that and let me see what he does.

[Zach]

Well, I knew. And he said. He said, okay, I'm going to Pepperdine. I said, what are you studying out there? He said, philosophy. I was like, well, okay, then you're smarter than all of us.

[Jason]

He's one of the. The. Well, he's probably number one person in my life who has asked me several questions that my answer was, I have absolutely no idea. Like, he. He really like a philosophy question that's based on some kind of biblical concept.

[Zach]

And you're like.

[Jason]

Kyle's like, I don't know. I got nothing for you. Which is, okay, I got nothing. You know, I was like, that's. I went so far over my head, I don't even know a starting point. But he's. Interesting question. Yeah. He's a really smart guy. We'll tell you this as. As kind of aloof as he is and as how much, like, I knew, you know, Reed's bride a little better because she was from here, hometown or whatever. I was shocked that. So they take off. They're on to. They went to an island. They're on their honeymoon. And so yesterday, which was their first. I mean, they took off. I think they stayed somewhere that night, but then they left the next day. Yeah, the next day while we're coming back. And they actually sent a group family picture of just their toes in the sand. And this is like, I forgot what the little caption was. But, you know, beautiful day or whatever. I was so shocked. And Missy's like, who sends who sends a group text to their family on the first day of their honeymoon. And I was like, babe, I think that's a good sign. I think they. They really enjoyed us all being together in that moment. I just thought, that's a really good sign.

[Zach]

Yeah. Plus, you know, Tommy Emin used to. He said this first, and I use it now in my weddings because I love the concept. And it's just. What just happened. It's the joyful part of watching this. This new couple is you're actually. It's a birth of a new family. And so it's still in your wing, but at the same time, it literally is the birth of something, a new entity, because when two become one flesh, it's a new person. And so, like, the two of them together now become their own birth of a new family. And I love that because the idea is. That's why we get so excited about it. I mean, it's a life thing.

[Jason]

Well, it was. And the backstory on why we were kind of shocked about that is because they're. They're the two worst. I'll text you back. People in our family, and they just got married, so it's like. I mean, I'll text Cole, and three days later, it's like he's answering like, it's current.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Jason]

Like, that would have been great information. That's why I texted you three days ago. But so the fact that they did that. So ole. Reed took that as an opportunity. He's like, boy, it's a whole new you. All you had to have was that night. And then it was a couple of memes that he creatively put there about what happened the night before, which turned out to be hilarious. But I think that was a good moment again. And even Missy said, oh, that was hilarious, though.

[Zach]

All right, we're out of time. I guess this became the wedding episode, but I kept looking, thinking, were we ever going to get to John? But not today day. But it was. It was.

[Jason]

Well, I appreciate indulging, because, look, those three days were very emotional, very exhausting, very enjoyable.

[Zach]

Yeah, it's good, but Birth of a New Family, I love it. We'll see you next time on Unashamed. Thanks for listening to the unashamed podcast. Help us out by leaving a rating and review on Apple podcast. And don't miss an episode by subscribing on YouTube. And be sure to click the little bell and choose all notifications to watch every episode.