Uncertain Pathfinders

The Uncertain Necessity of 混

（中文往下👇）In today’s episode of the Uncertain Pathfinders Podcast, hosts Jeffrey and Miranda welcome guest Sharon Ho, a philosophy student and marketing specialist from Indonesia currently studying in Taipei.We begin with a word that doesn’t translate neatly into English—but many people, especially college students, know the feeling well:混 (hùn) — pronounced “hwoon” (similar to moon, but with an h).混 can look like drifting, going through the motions, or loosening effort when clarity hasn’t arrived yet.It’s often misunderstood as “not caring,” but 混 can be a protective, transitional state—a way of resisting false certainty, conserving energy, or simply being honest about not knowing.In this conversation, Sharon shares her journey as an international student with mixed Taiwanese and Indonesian heritage, navigating uncertainty through philosophy, marketing, identity, and life between cultures. She reflects openly on her first years at university—periods of confusion, anxiety, low motivation, and the pressure to “figure it all out.”Together, we explore:the emotional weight of uncertainty in university lifehow philosophy can help us sit with not-knowingthe overlap between philosophy, marketing, and storytellingcultural identity, language learning, and personal growthand why 混 may sometimes be a necessary phase before clarity emergesThe episode closes with a look toward the future—Sharon’s uncertainties, her curiosity, and the exciting possibilities ahead.If the idea of 混 or Uncertainty resonates with you, we invite you to reflect, comment, and connect with us. At Uncertain Pathfinders, we believe that inviting Uncertainty can unlock possibility.👉 Reach out through the Pathfinder Connections form（合作探索表） if you’d like to collaborate, explore 1-on-1 career or life coaching, or bring workshops to your team focused on leveraging Uncertainty, embracing failure, and navigating constructive conflict through Nonviolent Communication (NVC).Related Links:Uncertain Pathfinders WebsiteUncertain Pathfinders IGUncertain Pathfinders LinkedinSharon's LinkedinSharon's IGMentorshiftSongshan Cultural and Creative Park松山文創園區Tiny Hills CoachingInvite Uncertainty. Unlock possibility. Press play together.在本集 Uncertain Pathfinders Podcast 中，主持人 Jeffrey 與 Miranda 邀請來自印尼、目前就讀於台北的哲學系學生與行銷專才 Sharon Ho 一同進行對話。這一集，我們從一個很難直接翻成英文，但許多人（特別是大學生）都能深刻感受到的狀態開始：混（hùn）。混，看起來可能像是在混日子、隨波逐流，或是在還沒找到方向前，暫時不那麼用力。它常被誤解為「不在乎」，但對很多人來說，混其實是一種過渡狀態與自我保護——在答案尚未出現前，拒絕假裝自己已經知道。在這段對話中，Sharon 分享了她作為一名擁有台灣與印尼背景的國際學生，如何在哲學、行銷、身分認同與跨文化生活中，與不確定性共處。她也誠實談到大學前兩年的掙扎——迷惘、焦慮、缺乏動力，以及「應該要趕快想清楚未來」的壓力。我們一起探索：大學生活中的不確定與焦慮哲學如何幫助我們安住在不知道之中哲學、行銷與說故事之間的交會文化背景、語言學習與自我成長以及為什麼「混」，有時其實是走向清晰前的必要階段在節目的最後，我們也聊到未來——Sharon 正在面對的不確定，以及解鎖新可能的機會。如果「混」或「不確定性」這個主題對你有所共鳴，歡迎留言、提問，或與我們連結。在 Uncertain Pathfinders，我們相信：擁抱不確定，能解鎖新的可能。 👉 歡迎透過 Pathfinder Connections 合作探索表與我們聯繫，無論是合作、一對一職涯／人生教練，或為你的團隊設計關於不確定性、失敗學習、以及以非暴力溝通（NVC）為基礎的工作坊。擁抱不確定，解鎖新可能，一起按下播放鍵。Leave a comment and share your thoughts: https://open.firstory.me/user/cm81rx1oo07d7012vcyv33asu/comments Powered by Firstory Hosting

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Uncertain Forever of Now （中文為主）

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(English below) 在本集 Uncertain Pathfinders（UP）Podcast 中，共同主持人 Jeffrey 與 Olof 邀請即興表演者、演出者、旅遊產業專業人士、抱石愛好者，同時也是戲劇治療學習者與引導者的「J」走進錄音室。三人一同探索不確定性（Uncertainty）、戲劇治療（Drama Therapy），以及如何透過故事、即興與遊戲，促進個人成長與自我理解。對話中也談及如何打破既有標籤、在舊有關係中嘗試新的開始，並透過一個個「微型人生實驗」，測試不同的可能性。本集內容也深入討論：遊戲在理解情緒與內在狀態中的角色關係如何影響我們的成長與選擇透過搭便車（Hitchhiking）等經驗，展開自我探索之旅整段對話強調：擁抱不確定性，是通往可能性的道路；而真正的連結，存在於此時此刻——「當下的永遠（the forever of Now）」。重點亮點與收穫（Highlights & Takeaways）不確定性為人生帶來新的可能與成長戲劇治療的力量，協助探索創傷與情緒遊戲是一種理解感受的強大工具搭便車作為人生不可預測旅程的隱喻真正的連結，發生在當下的此時此刻跨文化經驗有助於挑戰與鬆動既有成見章節（Chapters） 00:00 不確定性與可能性的開場 06:05 戲劇治療的探索與影響 12:29 遊戲在理解情緒中的角色 18:09 人生選擇中的不確定性 25:53 關係與個人成長的反思 28:35 關於愛與時間的思考 30:50 緊急應變與文化觀察 35:37 危機中的幸福感 44:21 自我探索的實驗 51:19 關係中的不確定性導航相關連結（Links）Uncertain Pathfinders 官方網站小C的FB (Su Cecil)Formosa Improv Group（FIG）福爾摩沙即興組合Uncertain Pathfinders InstagramThe Hutong關於 David Read Johnson 與心理健康J 的LinkedinUncertain Pathfinders合作探索表感謝你收聽 Uncertain Pathfinders Podcast。在這裡，我們邀請主持人、來賓與聽眾一起擁抱不確定性，解鎖新可能。歡迎與我們連結、走進錄音室，或與我們聯繫，了解一對一生涯與人生教練，以及關於團隊合作、建設性衝突、擁抱不確定性的工作坊。 UP 的方法論結合了 Co-active Coaching、Lumina Spark、應用即興（Applied Improv）與非暴力溝通（NVC）。歡迎在留言區寫下你的想法，或來信至 📧 uncertainpathfinders@gmail.com Leave a comment and share your thoughts: https://open.firstory.me/user/cm81rx1oo07d7012vcyv33asu/comments Show Introduction: In this episode of the Uncertain Pathfinders (UP) podcast, co-hosts Jeffrey and Olof welcome fellow improviser, performer, travel industry professional, bouldering enthusiast, drama therapy student and facilitator, “J” to the studio. Together, all three of them explore the themes of Uncertainty, drama therapy, personal growth through storytelling and improvisation, as well as breaking stereotypes and testing new beginnings in old relationships through tiny life experiments. They discuss the role of play in understanding emotions, the impact of relationships on personal development, and the journey of self-discovery through experiences like hitchhiking. The conversation emphasizes the importance of embracing Uncertainty as a pathway to unlocking possibilities and highlights the beauty of the present moment, and the “forever of Now!” Highlights and takeaways include:Uncertainty leads to new possibilities and growth.The power of drama therapy helps to explore trauma and emotions.Play is a powerful tool for understanding feelings.Hitchhiking as a metaphor for life's unpredictable journey.The present moment is where true connection happens.Exploring different cultures challenges preconceived notions. Chapters 00:00 Introduction to Uncertainty and Possibility 06:05 Exploring Drama Therapy and Its Impact 12:29 The Role of Play in Understanding Emotions 18:09 Navigating Uncertainty in Life Choices 25:53 Reflections on Relationships and Personal Growth 28:35 Reflections on Love and Time 30:50 Emergency Preparedness and Cultural Insights 35:37 Finding Happiness in Crisis 44:21 Experiments in Self-Discovery 51:19 Navigating Uncertainty in Relationships Links:Uncertain Pathfinders website小C’s FBFormosa Improv Group (FIG) 福爾摩沙即興組合Uncertain Pathfinders InstagramThe HutongAbout David Read Johnson and mental healthJ’s LinkedinPathfinders Connections (services and collaboration form) Thank you again for listening to the UP podcast, where we ask co-hosts, guests and listeners to invite Uncertainty and unlock possibility. Welcome to connect with us, join us in the studio, or reach out to us for 1-1 career and life coaching or workshops related to team collaboration, constructive conflict, and embracing Uncertainty. UP uses methodology related to Co-active coaching, Lumina Spark, applied improv, and Nonviolent Communication (NVC). Please write us a message in the comments, or send an e-mail to uncertainpathfinders@gmail.com!  Powered by Firstory Hosting

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Uncertain Reunions

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Welcome to the Uncertain Pathfinders (UP) podcast, where we ask guests, hosts, and listeners to invite Uncertainty and unlock possibility. On this episode, Jeffrey and guest co-host, Olof, invite Chairman and CEO of Pershing Technology Services Corporation (PTSC), Sean Chen, and AI Technical Manager, Karnan Gopalakrishnan to the studio. This invitation is a long-awaited reunion of sorts, as prior to starting UP, Jeffrey worked with both during his 5 year tenure as PTSC's Chief Learning Officer (CLO). In this engaging conversation, the hosts and guests explore the multifaceted nature of Uncertainty, particularly in the context of AI and personal experiences. They discuss the balance between structure and flexibility in professional settings, the emotional challenges of personal relationships, and the importance of embracing Uncertainty as a pathway to growth and innovation. Through personal anecdotes and reflections, they highlight how Uncertainty can lead to unexpected opportunities and deeper connections with others. Episode highlights include:A.I. as a significant part of our past, present, and futureTemperature in relation to Uncertainty and codingTransitioning from single life to cohabitation with a partnerRunning a business while balancing structure, flexibility, and UncertaintyUncertainty prior to exiting the wombLeaving one's home country and finding a new home in abroadTraveling with animalsAging and family dynamicsWise words from Jeff Bezos Suggested links:Uncertain Pathfinders websiteKarnan's LinkedinPTSC's websiteLowCarbonPowerUncertain Pathfinders InstagramUncertain Pathfinders Service and Collaboration Request As always, we welcome any comments or questions. Please contact us if you would like to collaborate, or are seeking 1-1 coaching, or training for your team. UP offers career and life coaching, in addition to applied improv workshops, and workshops related to Nonviolent Communication. 🎙️ 歡迎收聽 Uncertain Pathfinders（UP）Podcast，在這裡，我們邀請來賓、主持人，以及正在收聽的你，一起擁抱不確定性，解鎖新可能。在本集節目中，Jeffrey 與特別來賓共同主持人 Olof，邀請到 北祥科技服務股份有限公司（Pershing Technology Services Corporation, PTSC）董事長兼執行長 陳欽祥（Sean Chen），以及 AI 技術經理高卡納Karnan Gopalakrishnan 一同來到錄音室。這次的對談，也是一場久違的重逢。在創立 Uncertain Pathfinders 之前，Jeffrey 曾於 PTSC 擔任 首席學習長（Chief Learning Officer, CLO） 五年，並與 Sean 與 Karnan 共事。這次再度相聚，也為對話增添了更多層次與情感深度。在這場充滿張力與溫度的對談中，主持人與來賓一同探索「不確定性」的多重樣貌——特別是在 AI 發展 與 個人生命經驗 的交會點。他們談到在專業環境中如何拿捏結構與彈性、在人際關係中的情緒挑戰，以及為什麼擁抱不確定性，往往是通往成長與創新的入口。透過個人故事與深刻反思，來賓們分享了不確定性如何帶來意想不到的機會，也如何促成與他人之間更深層的連結。 🎧 本集重點包括：AI 作為我們的過去、現在與未來的一部分不確定性、溫度（temperature）與程式設計之間的關係從單身生活轉換到與伴侶同住的歷程在經營事業時，如何平衡結構、彈性與不確定性出生之前的不確定狀態離開家鄉、在異地建立新的「家」與動物一起旅行的經驗關於老化與家庭關係的思考來自 Jeff Bezos 的智慧之語🔗 相關連結：Uncertain Pathfinders 官方網站Karnan 的 LinkedInPTSC 官方網站LowCarbonPowerUncertain Pathfinders InstagramUncertain Pathfinders 服務與合作洽詢一如往常，我們非常歡迎你的回饋、想法與提問。如果你有合作想法，或正在尋找 一對一教練、團隊培訓，歡迎與我們聯繫。 Uncertain Pathfinders 提供 職涯與人生教練服務，以及 應用即興（Applied Improv） 與 非暴力溝通（NVC） 相關工作坊，期待與你一起在不確定中前行。 Leave a comment and share your thoughts: https://open.firstory.me/user/cm81rx1oo07d7012vcyv33asu/comments Powered by Firstory Hosting

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The Uncertain Necessity of 混

Uncertain Forever of Now （中文為主）

Uncertain Reunions

Uncertain Pathfinders

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The Uncertain Necessity of 混

Uncertain Forever of Now （中文為主）

Uncertain Reunions