Broke, Bougie, Basic

Summary

We Talk Back Podcast "Broke, Bougie, Basic" (June 4, 2026)
Hosts: TamBam & AJ Holiday

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Episode Overview

This energetic and humorous episode centers on the ever-relevant social media debate: What qualifies as broke, bougie, or basic in today’s world? Hosts TamBam and AJ Holiday, two unapologetically Black women who “talk back,” dissect these labels across the realms of dating, travel, friendship, social media, and daily life. Using a game-show style format, they read aloud scenarios shared by listeners and social media, sparking lively debate marked by personal stories, sharp opinions, and lots of laughs. Along the way, they riff on personal birthday plans, solo travel safety tips, relationship dynamics, and societal expectations about money and class.

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Main Discussion Points and Insights

1. Birthday Vibes & Solo Travel Safety

[02:17–07:44]

• AJ is turning 42 and taking a solo spiritual trip to Costa Rica. She discusses asking her partner for "permission" and shares TamBam’s advice to hide an AirTag under her wig or braids for safety, as seen among solo female travelers.

  • AJ humorously resists, noting, “I’m not wearing a wig over there…where I’ll put it at? Underneath my baby?” [05:00]
  • They riff on hiding valuables (and even paper towels) in bras for convenience and safety.

• AJ seeks "cleansing and healing," anticipating visiting a shaman. Both hosts recommend yoni cleansing and spiritual retreats for self-care.

2. Festival Fumbles, Exploring Roots Picnic

[08:07–09:01]

• The hosts express confusion at names like “Roots Picnic” for music festivals, expecting a literal picnic.
  • TamBam: "Why they call it a picnic? ...I was like, I ain't going to that."
  • AJ: "It's not, because they're probably out there selling food. It's just outside."

3. Weekend Recaps & Dating App Tales

[09:01–12:43]

• The duo trade weekend stories, from lazy, rainy days with crab bags to attending influencer events.

• TamBam shares a DM slide from a “white chocolate” ginger man at an Asian fusion restaurant, noting hesitation and referencing news stories that make her wary of interracial dating.

• Commentary about how social media distorts reality, including misleading viral videos and AI-generated content, especially concerning Black representation.

  • AJ: "It's so weird. We don't know what is real or fake now." [12:43]

4. Pride Month, Relationships and Hidden Lives

[13:42–16:38]

• AJ discusses a recirculating true crime story: a man murdered his ex-wife after she discovered his secret same-sex relationships. They question why the story resurfaces for Pride Month and talk about the dangers women face from DL (down-low) men.
  • AJ: "We are not the reason y'all can't come out the closet. It's your homeboys."
  • TamBam: "It's very sad and scary because you never know who you laying next to."

5. Family Secrets and Taboo Topics

[16:38–21:27]

• Reading a post where a divorce attorney recounts an incest confession, TamBam and AJ explore taboo family dynamics, referencing Game of Thrones-style storylines and noting these aren't exclusive to any particular community.

  • AJ: "A lot of things be so taboo in the Black community. We think we above it...but people be doing shit." [17:26]

• Further discussion explores toxic sibling relationships and possessive mothers or sisters as red flags in dating.

6. Rich Men, Women, and Career Choices

[21:27–24:28]

• The hosts react to Rick Ross' claim that exposure to a wealthy man can make women abandon their careers.

  • Some debate about “provider mentality” versus control, with both hosts agreeing that women shouldn’t drop their passions for a man.

  • AJ: "[Celebs] want somebody that's accessible, but they also want to chase. You gotta find a median somewhere." [24:02]

  • TamBam: "Don't lose yourself following no man."

7. Defining 'Broke,' 'Bougie,' and 'Basic'

[24:36–28:30]

• The hosts lay out working definitions:

  • Broke: Cheap, struggling, or cutting corners.
  • Bougie: Extra, luxurious, doing the most.
  • Basic: Normal or ordinary—for those with or without money.

• They reflect on the rising cost of living (e.g., $65k now considered “poverty” in Charleston, SC) and how real life often clashes with Instagram flexing.

  • AJ: "It just seems like rich people can't do basic and regular people are overly drunk trying to convince that they..."

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Game Show: Broke, Bougie, or Basic?

[28:30–74:00+]
(Timestamps refer to when scenario discussions began.)

Dating Edition

• Happy Hour on the First Date?
  [29:22]
  • Both: "Basic." Normal and reasonable.
• Splitting Appetizers, Ordering Own Entrée?
  • Both: "Basic/smart"—prevents overeating or overspending.
• Bringing a Coupon or Using Groupon?
  [33:35]
  • TamBam: "I like a man who knows how to save."
  • AJ: Could be "broke" if it's habitual; "frugal" if it's about smart spending.
• Ordering Water When Someone Else Is Paying?
  [35:45]
  • Considerate, sometimes "broke" depending on intent.
  • TamBam reflects on dating “working men” versus hustlers and how expectations shift.
• Using Gift Cards or Strange Payment Methods?
  [38:14]
  • Both hosts agree: That’s sketchy—and often a sign of scamming or “broke” behavior.

Travel Edition

[42:51]

• Bringing Your Own Snacks to the Airport?
  • Both: "Basic/smart," to avoid high prices.
• Refusing to Check a Bag?
  [44:57]
  • TamBam: "Broke," if it’s just to avoid the fee.
  • AJ shares plans to pack light for spiritual (and practical) reasons.
• Wearing Pajamas/Bonnet on a Plane?
  [48:52]
  • Both: Firm "broke," considered tacky and unprepared.
• Paying for Priority Boarding/First Class?
  [50:25]
  • "Bougie," especially for short flights; but also a motivator/networking opportunity.

Social Media Edition

[55:32]

• Renting Luxury Cars for Content?
  • Borderline "broke" (if flexing for clout), otherwise just social media “basic.”
• Buying Followers or Blue Checkmarks?
  [57:19]
  • Both: "Broke." TamBam dismisses the blue check since it can now be purchased.
• Posting Cash or Making Breakup Announcements Online?
  • "Broke" and unnecessary—deemed attention-seeking.

Friendship Edition

[58:49]

• Keeping Score of Who Paid Last / Venmo Requests for $4:
  • Both: "Broke." But they admit, “I was broke so I needed that $4 back!” - TamBam
• Never Bringing Anything to a Cookout:
  • "Broke," as is taking back opened bottles.
• Asking 'Who All Gonna Be There?’:
  [61:49]
  • Not broke, but “I always ask that,” says TamBam—sometimes it’s about boundaries.

Home & Relationship Edition

[64:00]

• Sleeping on a Mattress with No Bed Frame/Paper Plates at Home:
  • Both: "Broke"—and reminisce about households washing and reusing paper plates.
• Sharing a Netflix Password or Subscription:
  [68:26]
  • "Basic"—everyone does it, but streaming platforms keep cracking down.
• Having a Wine Fridge:
  • "Bougie," as is having a wine rack purely for aesthetic.

The “We Talk Back” Edition

[69:30+]

• Screenshotting Messages Before Replying:
  • For gossip; not about money, just “basic.”
• Hiding Snacks from Family:
  • TamBam: “Not ‘Big Back,’ it’s for bougie snacks nobody else paid for.”
• Calling Yourself an Entrepreneur With Nothing to Sell:
  • Both: "Broke," unless you’re hustling “coochie”—then technically, that’s “an item.”

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “If your breast can hold a pencil under it, it’s too big. You got them goddamn porn titties.” —AJ Holiday [06:27]
• "We are not the reason y'all can't come out the closet. It's your homeboys. Just come out." —AJ Holiday [15:39]
• “If I’m a family secret, how do you counter that?” —AJ Holiday, on shocking relationship revelations [20:19]
• “Don't lose yourself following no man.” —TamBam [22:57]
• “Why are you washing a paper plate? Even buying them is expensive!” —AJ Holiday [66:09]
• “You want to be first on the plane so you can make sure you get your bag up in overhead—that’s really the only reason.” —AJ Holiday [52:07]

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Tone & Style

The conversation is raw, unfiltered, and grounded in sisterly banter, as TamBam and AJ bounce between playful shadiness, real talk, and moments of vulnerability. They tackle “broke, bougie, basic” scenarios with comedic repartee, but also offer pointed social commentary on dating, class, and expectations for Black women.

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Useful Timestamps

• [02:17] — Birthday solo trip & AirTag debate
• [06:02] — “Titty-stash” tips
• [13:42] — Viral crime story & Pride Month
• [16:38] — Family secrets & taboo confessions
• [21:27] — Rick Ross and “Provider Mentality”
• [28:30] — Main game-show segment introduction
• [33:35] — Coupon dilemmas in dating
• [42:51] — Travel hacks
• [48:52] — Pajamas and bonnets on flights
• [55:32] — Social media flexes
• [58:49] — Friendship cash etiquette
• [64:00] — Home edition scenarios

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Final Takeaways

• Navigating “broke, bougie, and basic” is mostly about intent, self-awareness, and context—not just money.
• Social media often distorts what’s “normal.” IRL, practicality and self-care trump flexing.
• Sisterhood, laughter, and authenticity form the heart of “We Talk Back”—as does dragging anybody recycling old gossip or “doing the most” for attention.

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End of Summary
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Transcript

[AJ Holiday]

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[Tam Bam]

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[AJ Holiday]

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[AJ Holiday]

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[Tam Bam]

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[AJ Holiday]

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[Fernanda Echaberri]

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[Tam Bam]

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[Isaiah Thomas]

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[AJ Holiday]

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[Tam Bam]

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[AJ Holiday]

I like watching it with my dad. It's a connecting force.

[Fernanda Echaberri]

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[Point Game Podcast Host]

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[AJ Holiday]

Welcome to We Talk Back podcast, a production of iHeartRadio and the Black Effect Network.

[Tam Bam]

We're just two unapologetically black women with an opinion who talk back.

[AJ Holiday]

What's up, y'?

[Tam Bam]

All?

[AJ Holiday]

It's your girl, A.J. holiday. What's up, Tam Bam, y'?

[Tam Bam]

All? It's Tam Bam. I love y' all so, so very much. Thank y' all for coming back again this week. What's up, aj?

[AJ Holiday]

Mario?

[Tam Bam]

What's up, birthday girl?

[AJ Holiday]

Gemini's the Gemini twin them what's Up.

[Tam Bam]

You ready for your birthday?

[AJ Holiday]

I am, man. And my birthday feels different too. I don't know why. I feel a little bit different.

[Tam Bam]

Different good or different bad?

[AJ Holiday]

I'm in a very good space, y'.

[Tam Bam]

All.

[AJ Holiday]

I am turning 42 years old. You know, I'm 20,000 years older than Tam. I'm actually 20, 42 years old, type of. Yeah. If y' all watch the show, y' all know

[Tam Bam]

you always gotta listen. Just let them think what they think. Okay, go ahead.

[AJ Holiday]

Little trans age. So, yes, and I am taking a solo trip for my birthday this year. Had to ask for permission first. And thank God my guy is so cool because my homeboy was like, you going to do what? Like what, bitch? Your nigga ain't like, like, y' all not the same people, right? Trust. Okay, you know what I was thinking though, because you know how we met? We went to Puerto. We went to Puerto Rico. That's our first trip.

[Tam Bam]

Like, first, he might just pop up on your ass out there.

[AJ Holiday]

And if he does, it's fine. But like, I'm wondering if he's thinking like this. Probably meeting a out there, Right? I am going to Costa Rica to try to meet God some more. That's about it.

[Tam Bam]

Okay, well, tell them what I told you to do.

[AJ Holiday]

This bitch is trying to convince me to purchase a air tag and put underneath my wig.

[Tam Bam]

Yes.

[AJ Holiday]

I am not. First of all, listen, if I send

[Tam Bam]

it to your house, will you just put it under your.

[AJ Holiday]

I'll put it in my suitcase. Thank you.

[Tam Bam]

Oh, you gotta put it on you. You gotta air tag you.

[AJ Holiday]

I'mma google whether or not the air tag can even pick up in a whole nother country if somebody looking for me.

[Tam Bam]

Yes. That's what the girlies are doing. That's doing solo trips. They air tagging they braids and putting it up in the middle of their bun. They air tagging under they wig.

[AJ Holiday]

I just don't see some like, I have traveled like, to China essentially by myself and like that. I just don't see anybody wanting to kidnap my 200 pound ass. Like, they might want to rob me. Okay.

[Tam Bam]

You don't know what they need. They don't know what they want.

[AJ Holiday]

And they might try to rob me, but they ain't picking me up and taking me nowhere. So you don't get up playing, y' all gonna know who did it because at least my name gonna be carved inside of their face by the time it's done. And an air tag is just going to allow people to find my. My remains if something crazy actually happens and it's okay. Yeah, like, I trust God and it's not my time to go.

[Tam Bam]

Like, I will be girl, I'm about to see you this month time. I'm gonna send you this airtag.

[AJ Holiday]

I'll be on this planet for a long time. Y' all gonna have to deal with me for at least a hundred more years in this life. And then I'm gonna come back as a baby.

[Tam Bam]

All right, But I'm just gonna send it to you just in case. Okay. Can you just put it under your wig? You got a whole wig on. Just put it under there. You're not gonna feel it.

[AJ Holiday]

I'm not wearing a wig. Over there. Where I'll put it at underneath my baby.

[Tam Bam]

Put it underneath your titty.

[AJ Holiday]

Underneath my little hair.

[Tam Bam]

Stick it right up under one of your breasts, and then fluff it down.

[AJ Holiday]

Hey, y', all, when I'm cooking and like that, and usually I'm naked in the house, I literally be putting paper towels underneath my titties. Not for sweat, but just to hold it there while I'm cooking. It's like a holder with the paper towel. And I'd be cooking and grab the paper towel, wipe the counter, like,

[Tam Bam]

Is a paper towel holder. That's crazy.

[AJ Holiday]

My mama always be like, if your breast can hold a pencil underneath it, it's too big. You got them goddamn porn titties, right her like a nice little cup. These things hang up. Yes. I could put money underneath here. I could put a underneath here. I can do all type of. With these titties.

[Tam Bam]

I don't mind. Ain't gonna hold nothing, I don't think.

[AJ Holiday]

But yeah, that's my birthday plans, y'. All. So hopefully I'll be able to get some content.

[Tam Bam]

Yeah. At the least, make sure you just document for everybody. Just to keep track of you.

[AJ Holiday]

Yeah. I'm going over there.

[Tam Bam]

This coming on a spiritual retreat. She gonna come back with her wig off. Don't come back with no bone in your nose, like my grandma used to say. I don't know.

[AJ Holiday]

I think it's gonna be a good time, man. One of my. I'm actually gonna go see. She's like a shaman somebody. One of my. One of my friends also did some work with. So I think it's gonna be good. And I start the work on my birthday on Monday, June 8th.

[Tam Bam]

Excellent.

[AJ Holiday]

It's gonna be real good, man. I need some cleansing.

[Tam Bam]

A lot of cleansing and healing.

[AJ Holiday]

Yeah, man. I gotta get. How many years I've been. I gotta get A lot of years of up off me.

[Tam Bam]

I'm here for that.

[AJ Holiday]

Yeah, man. I suggest everybody do some yoni cleaning. All type of man, so you can move forward in life, period.

[Tam Bam]

Your birthday plans is way different than mine. I'm going to do like a. A whole day at a spa. Go see Jay Z in New York, you know, go to park.

[AJ Holiday]

I might go to cj. I was kind of jealous that everybody was at the roots picnic and I wasn't.

[Tam Bam]

Me too. And I was talking to Taylor, shout out to Taylor, and I was like, I ain't want to go to that. Because I thought it was a picnic. But it's not a picnic

[AJ Holiday]

festival.

[Tam Bam]

It's a festival. But no. Why they call it a picnic? Because I was like, gonna be sitting out there with their little baskets of food. I ain't going to that.

[AJ Holiday]

Are you okay?

[Tam Bam]

I don't know why they call it a picnic.

[AJ Holiday]

It's not because they're probably out there selling food. It's just outside, like roots picnic. I don't know why they call it that.

[Tam Bam]

That threw me off.

[AJ Holiday]

I've never been to a roots picnic, but I feel like I shouldn't have missed that one. Yeah, I definitely feel it was huge because it's not like he's about to do that intro again, you know,

[Tam Bam]

it's over for that.

[AJ Holiday]

How was your weekend? We didn't even get into that.

[Tam Bam]

We didn't. I didn't. I didn't do this weekend because. Was it. Because it. It wasn't Memorial weekend this weekend. It was the weekend before.

[AJ Holiday]

Right? What memorial weekend was that? Last week?

[Tam Bam]

Girl, my days is running together. My weeks is running together.

[AJ Holiday]

Mine too. Yeah, I feel you.

[Tam Bam]

So no, this weekend it was rainy and it was kind of cold outside too. It was chilly. So I just didn't do anything. I went to work and came home. That was it. Oh, I had me a crab leg bag. That was the highlight of the weekend

[AJ Holiday]

from the Asians

[Tam Bam]

from one of those

[AJ Holiday]

places in Charlotte, black owned seafood restaurants for y' all to go get y' all a crab in the bag from the black people. Why y' all going over there?

[Tam Bam]

Well, I don't know who owned it. I just assume it was Asians because I did a doordash. So I don't. I didn't even go get it, so I don't know who owns it, but I just. No, I didn't. I did not. So nothing. That was my weekend. What about yours?

[AJ Holiday]

I did hang out, y'.

[Tam Bam]

All.

[AJ Holiday]

Okay. I hung out from 2pm this is Sunday now. So from 2pm to, oh, damn near 12 o'. Clock. I was outside on Sunday.

[Tam Bam]

Oh, you was outside?

[AJ Holiday]

I know. I met some lovely women. My homegirl, Laquandra invited me to this girl. Her name is Courtney.

[Tam Bam]

Her.

[AJ Holiday]

Her birthday. She had her birthday at Gullah Grooves. You've been there and it was a good time, man. You know, I gotta cut up. Whenever I do go outside. I always gotta entertain people. And I've been recovering since fucking Sunday.

[Tam Bam]

Damn.

[AJ Holiday]

I graduation cookout on Saturday because I had just got back in town and I just could not get back on that road. So I just kind of chilled out Saturday. And you know when people want me to do stuff, you got to tell me at least two weeks, two weeks in advance for me to mentally prepare. But I was able to pull it off. And I got outside on Sunday and you know what?

[Tam Bam]

I lied. I did do something this weekend.

[AJ Holiday]

You always be lying. Me too.

[Tam Bam]

I just forgot my mind.

[AJ Holiday]

Just.

[Tam Bam]

I went to a grand. Like, it was a private event for a restaurant called Leela. It's like an Asian fusion. And they opened on the six and they had like a event where they invited influencers and business people and we got to try the menu and things. Like some of the, like small bites from the menu. Yeah, it was. That was fun. Yeah, the food was good. And guess a girl, a white guy from the event, sliding my DMs that night. I was like, oh, hell, White chocolate. He was a ginger too. Shout out to.

[AJ Holiday]

Shout out to the ginger albino.

[Tam Bam]

Right? That happened. That happened and that was it. Me too. I do. I might let him take me out. I don't know. I just be scared because, you know, that black girl that was in Rest in Peace, that was in Africa with that white man that had me shook. Yeah, I guess so.

[AJ Holiday]

We'll see. What was you saying about the video?

[Tam Bam]

Which video? Oh, that video. That wasn't them. Oh, that was like a whole nother. So that video was like a sex worker. And I can't remember what city they were in, but I think she was like robbing him and he went chasing her behind her. That's why he ain't having no clothes. And they. And that. And they stole that video and applied it to those people. And that's just fucked up. People just trying to create content. It don't matter.

[AJ Holiday]

It's so weird. Like we don't know what is real or fake now. And like I said last week, how they be putting. They. They pick and choose what illustration they want to use. For particular stories, they put black people. And it's not. It's always the black person. They putting on some shit. And I'll go Google and it's a whole nother, you know, ethnicity. Like, what the is happening, right?

[Tam Bam]

Or I have bitches sending me hairstyles and that. Like, one girl's like, you can do this. And it was like, braids. But the braid didn't have no start or no end. I was like, this is AI. This is not a real.

[AJ Holiday]

See those AI videos where they use a MA to braid hair down?

[Tam Bam]

Somebody sent me a video of that. It was like this little thing that pressed the hair. Like she just combed through it. She was like, you should get this. I was like, that's not a real thing.

[AJ Holiday]

Oh, my God, man, this is weird.

[Tam Bam]

It's weird. It's weird outside.

[AJ Holiday]

Weird, man.

[Tam Bam]

Let's get in this end.

[AJ Holiday]

What we got going on this weekend, child in the world of stupid it Internet news. Did y' all see this article where this. This man murdered his ex wife because she apparently found out that he was engaging in extramarital gay affairs? Basically, she did everything right. She divorced him, she left him, you know, and he shot her 15 times.

[Tam Bam]

Damn.

[AJ Holiday]

That is, like, cold blooded.

[Tam Bam]

I know.

[AJ Holiday]

This was a. It was like, last week this started being reported. The woman filed for divorce after leaving after learning new details about her husband online. But the situation escalated into a violent incident that left her critically injured, it said. But I believe she did pass away.

[Tam Bam]

Like, this story is kind of old, and I think it's recirculating because it's Pride Month. Why is this story.

[AJ Holiday]

I didn't see that before.

[Tam Bam]

I feel like I saw this a year ago.

[AJ Holiday]

Let me see. No, I saw another story.

[Tam Bam]

This story was from three years ago. Sadly, she died. He was sentenced to 25 to 50 years.

[AJ Holiday]

Damn, that's fucked up. Why would it be recirculating?

[Tam Bam]

Because it's pride.

[AJ Holiday]

Why is Pride month in June? Let's talk about that.

[Tam Bam]

I don't know my month. Please.

[AJ Holiday]

And let me get the rainbow. Like, why y' all get to have the rainbow?

[Tam Bam]

I know, I love the rainbow. But there's no straight month. We don't have no straight month either.

[AJ Holiday]

Y' all have all the rest of the year.

[Tam Bam]

Okay, fair enough.

[AJ Holiday]

Some Black History Month type, right?

[Tam Bam]

Fair enough.

[AJ Holiday]

Straight month all year, year long.

[Tam Bam]

All right, okay, fair enough.

[AJ Holiday]

Yeah, but why not just leave? Or I guess she did leave, right? Why not just go on with your life like you want to take her out? Because even though it's old. Like, we know that men abuse women when they get found out about it. We are not the reason why y' all can't come out the closet. It's your homeboys. Just come out of it. Come out like women be. Our women are the number one supporters of the LGBTQ community.

[Tam Bam]

Right?

[AJ Holiday]

We ain't never gonna be the problem. But I just. That was so unfortunate, man.

[Tam Bam]

It's very sad and scary because you never know who you laying next to.

[AJ Holiday]

You know, my homegirl be so pissed at me because I'd be like all these gay, like. And I'm not saying that in a way, like there's a problem with it. I just have more respect for men who are out with their sexuality. I am afraid of DL men.

[Tam Bam]

Yeah, me too. Just be yourself.

[AJ Holiday]

Yeah, I'm scared of this.

[Tam Bam]

Sorry. Listen to this one. Divorce. This is a divorce attorney. She says, so tell me your story. And this is the client responding. I've been married for seven years, and my wife always said my sister's anger toward her felt too personal to be normal, too possessive, too deep. Like my wife had stepped into a place my sister still believed belonged to her. I finally told my wife the truth. My sister and I crossed the line when we were teenagers, and that secret followed us into adulthood before becoming a husband. Now my wife. Now my wife wants a divorce because she says she is living inside a family secret. She wants out. E. Yuck. Is that his real sister? These just don't sound like us,

[AJ Holiday]

girl. People be doing shit. And, you know, a lot of things be so taboo in the black community. We just think we just above and this stuff don't be happening. I know some women. Some girls I went to school with, like, out there from that country. First, second, third cousins. They deaf. And these are black people. Definitely was having sex.

[Tam Bam]

Were they first cousin?

[AJ Holiday]

Yes, for sure.

[Tam Bam]

That's crazy to me.

[AJ Holiday]

That sounds both sides of the family and all.

[Tam Bam]

And then having sex with your sister is just insane.

[AJ Holiday]

Yeah, that's nuts.

[Tam Bam]

I mean, why do you even look at your sister sexually?

[AJ Holiday]

Depending on the age of the people, people be experimenting. And who else you gonna experiment? Y' all right there in the house together. I'm not saying, like, that is normal, but some people's brains, like, just think about animals. I was having a conversation with a friend, and he was asking if cats know because I just bred Dasha again. Hopefully she pregnant. Jesus Christ. He was asking if cats know, like, their siblings, you know, whether they raise in the same house or not. I was like, if they know, they probably don't care amongst the animal kingdom. And I always be saying like you take away laws and religion, like we are just like supposedly sophisticated animals, right? And we know like these, these super billionaire families, these old ass rich families, like they believe in incest, they believe in keeping things in the family. Okay, so uncles be. Remember that show? Not Game of Thrones.

[Tam Bam]

But it was Game of Thrones though.

[AJ Holiday]

They were like, oh yeah, Game of Thrones too. And the spin off, Cersei and her brother. The spin off. Exactly. The spin off was House of Dragon. Dragon, yeah. Like she was with her uncle. Like, yeah.

[Tam Bam]

All her kids was by her brother. She was married. Her man, her husband had dark hair and all her kids were blonde because all her kids were by her.

[AJ Holiday]

That was her uncle she was with. Remember she was a little girl. He was already. When she got older, that was her. Her uncle she had children with. Yeah.

[Tam Bam]

So easy up.

[AJ Holiday]

Yeah. That's crazy, man. I don't know what I would do if I found out my husband has slept. And you know what she's saying is that the sister probably was having an attitude and just never liked the wife type shit, right? Yeah, exactly. Imagine that. Imagine like this bitch beefing with you in her head because this her brother, but she's also in love with him. You gotta leave. If I'm a family secret, how do you counter that? Like how do you like.

[Tam Bam]

First of all, that would have stayed a secret. There was no way she would have ever known that.

[AJ Holiday]

I have felt like that in a relationship before. Like that's why. I mean I be joking, but I really don't like with mamas and sisters. Cuz I do be feeling like it'd be some little like if it's not like they actually like the mamas be in love with their sons. It's. What is it not Is Oedipus compact complex. Like the sons be in love with the mom type. It's just a weird dynamic. Like where do I even fit in?

[Tam Bam]

Right?

[AJ Holiday]

Your sister don't like me for what?

[Tam Bam]

Yep, that's how. When I was my first boyfriend, the sister just did not. She hated my guts.

[AJ Holiday]

Yeah.

[Tam Bam]

And she had no reason. Like that's a good kid. Better than your brother.

[AJ Holiday]

I'd be trying to understand, like I'm better than your brother. Why are you treating me like I'm the one that ain't right? I'm better. I am better than you and your brother. As a matter of fact, it's a I ola. It's a sister Iola ass whooping to to this day for how she treated me.

[Tam Bam]

Yeah.

[AJ Holiday]

Anyway, y', all, Rick Ross says Richmond will make some women forget all about their careers once they get a taste of the lifestyle. So basically, Rick Ross basically said once a woman starts dealing with a rich man, that 9 to 5 mindset might go right out the window. He explained that wealthy men expect women to be available during the most inconvenient times. Why you make it inconvenient for a And then claim some women eventually stop caring about their careers altogether once they get comfortable with the luxury lifestyle. Ross even joked that if a woman can't cook, she can just use ChatGPT to figure it out. I agree.

[Tam Bam]

I mean, all that is if you can read, you can cook. That's how I feel.

[AJ Holiday]

Social media is already divided with some saying he's speaking provider mentality facts while others feel he's promoting control and expecting women to drop everything for a man. Is Rick Ross speaking facts or nah. My favorite comment, somebody said Rick Ross, your contracts only last 90 days.

[Tam Bam]

Right.

[AJ Holiday]

Your job. And take a little FMLA FMLA to with Rick Ross because they know they gonna get fired from his real quick.

[Tam Bam]

It's not a lifetime high turnover rate. Very high.

[AJ Holiday]

So yeah, I agree. You know what I'm saying? I think all women in a position to not have to work.

[Tam Bam]

Right? But don't. Don't lose your falling. No, man. I had this guy that I was talking to here recently, he's in the NFL and he keep trying to just get me like come tomorrow. Come tomorrow. I'm not a come tomorrow kind of woman.

[AJ Holiday]

Yes. My ain't even prepared for nothing.

[Tam Bam]

Yeah. For tomorrow you have to give me some advanced notice because I have shit going on and I can't just abandon everything to come lay up with you. So.

[AJ Holiday]

And then they. That's what they want initially. And then you complain. They then complain about those women not having enough going on. You know what I'm saying? Not having no motion. That's what you wanted, right? You wanted a puppy. Now you got a puppy. Now you want a woman with some depth. Get your ass on these. Don't know what they want. But I mean, I would love to be in a situation where I did not have to work and feel like I had to build everything myself.

[Tam Bam]

Facts. I should have probably got my ass on that plane.

[AJ Holiday]

Oh, man. Them I feel like, especially like celebrities and with the super bad athletes, you cannot move when they say usually the one they end up probably being with is the one who wasn't Paying their ass no attention. Yeah. They want somebody that's, like, accessible, but they also want to chase. You gotta find a median somewhere. Middle ground.

[Tam Bam]

That part. It's hard.

[AJ Holiday]

Yeah.

[Tam Bam]

What are we talking about today?

[AJ Holiday]

So some social media. All right. Bougie are basic. Okay. Since everybody on Instagram are, you know, millionaires and billionaires now, when the majority of people are living below poverty, poverty level right now. I saw an article for Charleston that said now like, 8. What is it, 65. $65,000 in Charleston is considered poverty. It's very expensive to live here.

[Tam Bam]

Yeah.

[AJ Holiday]

Like in West Ashley, where I live at. I was looking for a house, and there's nothing under $400,000. Nothing. So you paying a million, half a million dollars for a house now? Like that, you have to have, like, a lot of income.

[Tam Bam]

Everybody get to work. Yeah. Because.

[AJ Holiday]

Yeah. So, you know, it just seems like rich people can't do basic and regular people are overly drunk. Trying to convince that they. So this is just a big game today, Right? We'll get into it after the break.

[Jonas Brothers Podcast Host]

Number one hits, millions of records sold

[AJ Holiday]

awards, sold out tours.

[Jonas Brothers Podcast Host]

You think the Jonas Brothers are satisfied?

[AJ Holiday]

Nope.

[Jonas Brothers Podcast Host]

It's podcast time.

[Point Game Podcast Host]

We get to ask other people questions because we're sick and tired of being asked questions.

[Jonas Brothers Podcast Host]

A Jonas is available now, and their first guest is a big, big one. Paul Rudd.

[Point Game Podcast Host]

You know, Steve Carell is a great singer.

[Tam Bam]

Didn't he tell you not to audition

[AJ Holiday]

at the office or something?

[Point Game Podcast Host]

I told him, whoa. We were filming Anchorman. Clearly, I was the idiot. Thank God he didn't listen to me, right?

[Jonas Brothers Podcast Host]

Listen to hey, Jonas on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Fernanda Echaberri]

I love the sounds. The buzzing from the stadium, the chanting from the fans, the announcers calling the the place. Soccer, football at home.

[Tam Bam]

Why do I watch the World Cup?

[Isaiah Thomas]

That's like asking me, why do I breed?

[Fernanda Echaberri]

I inherited that fandom from my mom.

[AJ Holiday]

I like watching it with my dad. It's a connecting force.

[Fernanda Echaberri]

From Futuro Studios, I'm Fernanda Echabarri, and this is American Football, a show about soccer culture in the US and its underdog roots. We go beyond the game to the people and the stories that make it great.

[Tam Bam]

A soccer game is a festival. It's not just a game. It's your culture.

[AJ Holiday]

I took an elbow to my head,

[Tam Bam]

which cracked my skull. It is an American game.

[Point Game Podcast Host]

The Brazilians don't like hearing that, though.

[Fernanda Echaberri]

Are they the only ones that don't like that?

[Tam Bam]

Nobody likes that.

[Fernanda Echaberri]

As we get Ready for the men's World cup this summer? Listen to American football as part of the My Cultura podcast network, available on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Isaiah Thomas]

What's up, fam? It's Isaiah Thomas and I'm CJ Toledano,

[Point Game Podcast Host]

and our podcast Point Game is about defying the odds.

[Isaiah Thomas]

Like LeBron heading into the playoffs without Luca and Austin Reed and finding ways

[Point Game Podcast Host]

to win no matter what.

[Isaiah Thomas]

He's the smartest player to ever play the game. His, I check is at a level that we've never seen before. And he knows without Luka and Austin Reaves, I gotta manipulate the game.

[Point Game Podcast Host]

We get a player's perspective on the challenges of the playoffs.

[Isaiah Thomas]

I think Joker's gonna be exhausted this series because when they don't have Rudy in the lineup, he has to really guard guys like Nas Reed, he has to guard Julius Randle, and then he has to give us everything. He gives us on a night to night basis on offense.

[Point Game Podcast Host]

And when it's friends stop by like, like Quentin Richardson, we dive into some playoff history too.

[Tam Bam]

Steve Nash would get that thing, that

[AJ Holiday]

man, hell, get the flying.

[Tam Bam]

He running up the court, licking his fingers while he got the ball. Like you go through a training camp

[AJ Holiday]

with that, Isaiah, you figure it out real quick.

[Tam Bam]

Oh, yeah. Get your ass up and down the

[AJ Holiday]

court and you gonna get the ball.

[Point Game Podcast Host]

So listen to Point game on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[AJ Holiday]

Craving something specific. From global flavors to viral snacks, TikTok has it all. If you can dream it, you can make it right at home. Find your next favorite dish on TikTok. All right, y', all, we are back from break and today. Today's game show topic is Broke bougie or basic. We're going to read, you know, a couple different scenarios and discuss them. Is it basic? Is it broke shit? Is a basic shit? I mean. Yeah. Yeah. All right, so the first topic is the dating edition. All right, so you got to tell. We have to tell each other if it's like some broke shit.

[Tam Bam]

Okay.

[AJ Holiday]

Basic shit. So taking your date to happy hour instead of dinner. Basic, basic shit. Oh, let me go back. So broke shit equals cheap, struggling or cutting corners. Bougie is extra luxurious doing the most. And then basic is just like normal, normal shit. Right. That shouldn't seem abnormal just because somebody has money, basically.

[Tam Bam]

So, okay, I still feel basic. Like basic happy hour.

[AJ Holiday]

Yeah, I mean, I. I mean, we can technically do both, but. Or, I mean, if most Restaurants have a happy hour. Five, seven, after work. I don't see anything wrong with that. That is definitely basic. Basic, yeah.

[Tam Bam]

I agree. All right, the next one. Splitting an appetizer but ordering separate entrees,

[AJ Holiday]

that's basic. And I feel like more people need to do that. I was out. I did take myself out to dinner Saturday night, and the couple next to me at the bar at this little Italian place, I've been frequent. Freaking. How do you even use the word frequency? Freak. Is it. Is that the word frequenting? I don't think that's right. It's just freak.

[Tam Bam]

Frequenting. Yeah. No, frequenting. Yeah.

[AJ Holiday]

Y' all tell us this Italian restaurant that I frequent with, because I think that's how you use it.

[Tam Bam]

But you can. You say I've been frequently. Okay, I've been frequenting. Maybe I made that up. I don't know.

[AJ Holiday]

Yeah, I think you made that up. Anyway, so I look over and, like, they. They split all their food, and I feel like that is a good way to not, like, overeat. Right? I don't think it's on some cheap. Like, why are. Sometimes it's just too much food on one entree. Why are we not just getting one meal that we both like and. And splitting it?

[Tam Bam]

I mean, that's. That's smart if you trying to, you know. Yeah, but I say unbid your back and save money.

[AJ Holiday]

Yeah, I.

[Tam Bam]

But these that I be hanging out with, they ain't trying to share enough food. Big ass. They be fatter than me. Like, I made some. I cooked, and I made a blackened salmon with a pineapple salsa. Y', all, it was so good. I'm so. I was proud of myself because, you know, I don't want all of that. And it was so good. And I got four fillets, and they were nice sized fillets. Cilantro lime rice, and the Uncle Ben's. Huh? And then I just realized Zataran's. It was Zatarans. And I made him a plate, and I put him one piece of salmon, but I had two for him, you know, And I put one on mine, and he was like, yeah, I'm gonna need that other piece right now. So I put the other piece on his plate, too, and then he ate both of them. And then I only ate about a third of mine. He's like, you not gonna finish that? And then ate my shit, too.

[AJ Holiday]

I like that. Like, I like a. Who be eating? Because I like. Yeah, I like to feed people. So I like. I don't want to pile your Plate up initially, but I always be like, it's something on the stove if you want more.

[Tam Bam]

Yeah, I don't mind that. But don't eat mine too, because what if I get hungry later? Yeah, right. No, I really like when a clean this plate, so. But yeah, no, you know, I don't

[AJ Holiday]

know if that is. I don't think it's broke. You know, I could say that it might be bougie to be watching your figure and splitting entrees at a very expensive restaurant. I mean, you know, splitting. This actually says splitting entree. I mean, appetizers. But ordering separate entrees, I don't know how that could ever be.

[Tam Bam]

Well, yeah, because, I mean, most times you share appetizers anyway.

[AJ Holiday]

Right? That's what it's supposed to be for. Like, why you got an entree and a whole two appetizers to yourself?

[Tam Bam]

Right?

[AJ Holiday]

I mean, I'd be doing that, but I'm just saying. Why? This is a big one. And actually, I feel like this has been on social media before, but bringing a coupon on a first date, like, would you go out with a dude who got that book of greenback stamps for the movie theater?

[Tam Bam]

Yes. I like a man who know how to save. I don't care about that. Save your money so you can spend it on me somewhere else. Groupon.

[AJ Holiday]

Kevin, do some shit off Groupon.

[Tam Bam]

How you gonna know? Yeah, I got a coupon code. I got a Groupon code. I don't mind that as long as. As long as you like, not, bro, you know, and you using Groupon because you're just a broke person. But if you using Groupon because you're a saver, I'm here for it. Frugal.

[AJ Holiday]

Yeah, some people could be too frugal. Like, I probably can come off as too frugal sometimes. I will take a long time to, like, make a decision about some because I want the best for the least amount of money out of everything.

[Tam Bam]

Like, yeah, I've seen that before.

[AJ Holiday]

Like, I. Why are we paying this much money? I understand the value of. You know what I'm saying? So why am I paying this much for this service? You know, products. Like, I know I can get it cheaper somewhere, and I'll just take the extra time to get it cheaper. I don't know, maybe people might consider that broke behavior, but some people would in the bank. Tell me what you think.

[Tam Bam]

Right?

[AJ Holiday]

So I don't know. I feel like bringing the coupon, like an actual coupon on a date.

[Tam Bam]

That might be a little.

[AJ Holiday]

That might be A little broke behavior we had to pick. I wouldn't say it's basic. That's not basic behavior.

[Tam Bam]

No, I'm just trying to think of where we going that got coupons, you know, like I don't know.

[AJ Holiday]

I don't know.

[Tam Bam]

Some place I can't think of nowhere we going that got a coupon

[AJ Holiday]

in real life.

[Tam Bam]

Yeah, we going grocery shopping. Like where we going with coupons? I don't know.

[AJ Holiday]

So Paris Teeter right? I don't know.

[Tam Bam]

This one is done to me ordering water when someone else is paying. Not me, I'm. I'll have a water along with my cocktail. The.

[AJ Holiday]

But why have like when someone else is paying cuz you trying to be

[Tam Bam]

thoughtful or you trying to be considerate of their pockets?

[AJ Holiday]

So is that broke shit on you or broke shit on the other person that you have to even be conscious of their pocket and what they can afford and can't.

[Tam Bam]

Well, I think it's thoughtful of you and broke shit on the other person. Yeah, I remember. No, hold on. Yeah, I'm always ordering what I want but I remember one time being out with a guy and I was like, I was like three drinks in at this point and I was like he don't sell drugs. Maybe I should slow down. You know like this is a everyday once I stopped dealing with those kind of guys and I was like dealing with everyday working guys. I'm like this is adding up and I haven't even considered that but because I've never been, I haven't, I haven't ever thought about it until this time when I started dating men who work regular jobs. I'm like oh yeah.

[AJ Holiday]

Because they, they, they budget their money different.

[Tam Bam]

Yeah.

[AJ Holiday]

You know what I'm saying? Like even if they make a lot of money, somebody who works or runs a business versus somebody who hustling or scamming like it's never going to be the same the pop the balloon but it was like a, like a sequel where they did like a reunion kind of thing with these a couple like one of the. He owned a jet or some like that One of the dudes was a doctor. One of the other contestants was like a doctor and then here goes this drug dealer or whatever he does probably scamming with hella jury on he talking about talking to the doctor like you don't got a private jet. Like he was like the doctor said I'm gonna call the feds on you know how you make your money.

[Tam Bam]

That part the ir.

[AJ Holiday]

Do you file taxes? Does the IRS know How you. It's just different. You can't compare the two. And, like, yeah, I'm not risking my life to have things or to take a. On a date and where she has unlimited access to my wallet.

[Tam Bam]

Remember going on a date with a guy, he's like, get what you want. And I was like, I was. And then I got what I want. And then this paid with, like. I don't. I feel like I told this story before. He had, like, 30 Visa gift cards. It was like, 30, 30, $50 Visa gift cards. I was so embarrassed.

[AJ Holiday]

That's bringing a coupon on the first date, essentially because he not using his money. We know he's scamming. We know he's scamming with them gift cards. I remember I went out with a mutual friend and a guy she was dating when I went to New York one time. And the guy she brought, I knew he was a. How you doing? Just seemed like he was. And he pulled out a Rolodex of gift cards and told a waitress, pick one

[Tam Bam]

embarrassment.

[AJ Holiday]

Pick. Just scamming.

[Tam Bam]

But, I mean, it's so much fun, though.

[AJ Holiday]

A couple of them wasn't working, so you should have to come back and get another one.

[Tam Bam]

That's what was happening. Like, he had to go over there to the service station and, like, just keep giving her different ones until the tab was clear. I was like, oh, my God, I'll never go out with him again.

[AJ Holiday]

Yeah, they should have called the police on his ass because. Why you got all these gift cards?

[Tam Bam]

Mm. The hell

[AJ Holiday]

asking? You got this when the bill comes. That's.

[Tam Bam]

Bro.

[AJ Holiday]

I went out with a nigga one time, and it kind of, like, sealed a deal. Like, that was kind of like the beginning of the end of our dating.

[Tam Bam]

He asked you if you had it?

[AJ Holiday]

No. No. So he was. So we went out, the bill came. The bill was, like, $80, right? We didn't even get food. That was, like, drinks and us playing pool. And he invited me out. So when a bill come, it was like 80. $90 or something. He was like, damn, what the.

[Tam Bam]

I only had this.

[AJ Holiday]

He was, like, fretting about it. So the next morning, he was still fretting about it and thinking about it. Like, damn, I spent such and such. And you just. You just look down at your purse. Was I supposed to pull something out of it?

[Tam Bam]

Right?

[AJ Holiday]

I supposed to, like, offer you some money on the tab or something. You want that for your daughter, right? Why, like, why did you think I was supposed to go in my. My. My bag? Because you Invited me out, and you picked this place. Right. And then you thought. And I feel like I only had, like, two drinks, so I don't know how much the. The pool was. I don't give a. How much any of that stuff was. None. It's none of my business.

[Tam Bam]

Right? You don't have nothing to do.

[AJ Holiday]

I didn't go in my purse. Are you okay? So, yeah. That's broke.

[Tam Bam]

Yeah, definitely broke. Going on a coffee date.

[AJ Holiday]

Kind of on the fence, but with

[Tam Bam]

that one, like this bougie.

[AJ Holiday]

Yeah. To me, a little bit, you know, like, hey, you want to meet up for coffee? And if we're in Europe, that means you want to.

[Tam Bam]

Does it.

[AJ Holiday]

I heard that. I don't know where I read it at, but it's like, hey, do you want to come over for coffee? That means you want to.

[Tam Bam]

I thought after. At the end of the night, asking somebody, did they want some coffee? Oh, not in the morning or afternoon.

[AJ Holiday]

I went on a. On a Whole Foods date one time. I got groceries. I help him grocery shop.

[Tam Bam]

That was cute.

[AJ Holiday]

I like that. And Whole Foods is whole paycheck.

[Tam Bam]

And he paid for your groceries. Yeah. That was cute. That's a cute date.

[AJ Holiday]

So I don't know. I don't think that. I think it. To me, I understand something. We go back to talking about, like, the working man. They. You know, if they're dating and they're actually out here dating with intention, like, dating could get really expensive. So if this is not somebody that you can see something, whether you just want to talk to them in person as opposed to, like, texting and talking over the phone. What's wrong with meeting out at a public place for first, you know what I'm saying? Going to Starbucks. You can get it. Like a little tr. Like a little tapas.

[Tam Bam]

Yeah. See if it's worth even spending $300. Yeah.

[AJ Holiday]

In this economy. Yeah. So the. The. The more expensive outside gets. I'm with y'. All.

[Tam Bam]

Yeah.

[AJ Holiday]

I am so happy.

[Tam Bam]

I'm not mad at that. Me too.

[AJ Holiday]

I'm happy I'm a female.

[Tam Bam]

I. I heard we couldn't say female no more.

[AJ Holiday]

Okay. Because female is like, you know, women are human females. Right. So when you say female, like, what, Animal?

[Tam Bam]

Dog? Like, I don't know, girl. It's too much.

[AJ Holiday]

Too much caring about nothing.

[Tam Bam]

All right, let's go to travel edition.

[AJ Holiday]

All right.

[Tam Bam]

Bringing your own snacks to the airport. I love you.

[AJ Holiday]

Your water will get thrown out.

[Tam Bam]

You don't know your food. Your food won't, but your. Your beverages will. I Always bring my own snacks in my bag. First of all, the snacks are overpriced in the airport and they don't have the shit I want.

[AJ Holiday]

Yes.

[Tam Bam]

I just for a long flight.

[AJ Holiday]

Yeah. I'm always rushing. I never like have what I want on the plane and I'm never buying anything in the airport because I just feel like I'm getting finesse and I hate feeling like being finessed. Like why this is like, it's like the club. It's inflation in the airport.

[Tam Bam]

I be that on the plane be like, who brought Popeyes, guys? Thanks.

[AJ Holiday]

So is that broker bougie or basic

[Tam Bam]

where I'm sitting in the plane when

[AJ Holiday]

somebody bring onions on the plane? Why you should not ever take a crab boil in a public place or anything with onions. Yeah, confined space, right. You have to breathe it in.

[Tam Bam]

I agree. But I also like, we'll crack open some beef jerky on the plane real quick and that'd be like it smell it. Smell good though.

[AJ Holiday]

I don't like beef jerky, but it doesn't. It's not, it's not a bad smell if I smell it for a little while.

[Tam Bam]

Yeah.

[AJ Holiday]

Yeah. So bringing snacks at airport, I don't think that's like broke.

[Tam Bam]

No, me neither.

[AJ Holiday]

Yeah. I said not wanting to be finessed is smart.

[Tam Bam]

Yes.

[AJ Holiday]

Let's see. Refusing to check a bag. I always check a big stupid ass bag.

[Tam Bam]

I'm gonna say refusing. So that means like they're asking you to check and you don't want to check it. That's broke.

[AJ Holiday]

That means like, that means like every time you travel, you like that whatever I can fit in this bag is what I'm taking because I'm not checking the bag. I'm not paying extra to check a bag. So you're always using extra carry ons.

[Tam Bam]

That's broke to me.

[AJ Holiday]

Is it broke A little bit.

[Tam Bam]

I feel like you like if you are leaving, you need. Because you don't want to check a bag that's broke, but you could just

[AJ Holiday]

purchase it over there when you get to where you're going.

[Tam Bam]

Okay. I mean if that's the case, if you don't want to check a bag because you don't want to spend the money, but then going to buy shit over there, it just don't make no sense. You.

[AJ Holiday]

So for this Costa Rica trip, I. And it's not because I don't want to pay for check bag because I love to have everything I need on deck. Right. But I got a couple train plane transfers and I just don't be. I don't feel like having to worry about my luggage or. Or like it not getting to where it needs to be or lugging that shit through the airport to the next airport to my next gate and shit like that. A big bag. So I am going to try to. Because I. I feel like this is also like something I need to accomplish. Packing fucking light, right? Packing light. Like, why you need all these things? You bring all this clothes, you end up not fucking wearing five pairs of shoes and only end up wearing two. A flip flop and one heel. You don't curl your hair over there. So why you brought those curling irons? It's all type of like, I am really going to try to pack light because that's how I want. I want my life to be light. I want to be lighter. Physically, mentally, spiritually. Like, I don't want to. And when I get back home, I'm clearing everything out my motherfucking house. Like all this I've been holding on to for years. So to me, that's the representation of taking a carry on.

[Tam Bam]

Okay, that's fair. That's what I need to do to my closet. Like, I really need to let go of all these old ass clothes. Like, I got a whole.

[AJ Holiday]

Get back into. I got so many. I got jeans from art and B,

[Tam Bam]

it ain't even getting back into. It's just like, I've attached memories to outfits.

[AJ Holiday]

Mm.

[Tam Bam]

It's hoarding. That's what that is the example of. That's the definition of hoarding.

[AJ Holiday]

Yes.

[Tam Bam]

Like, oh, I remember I wore that and I just have it in my closet taking up space. I'll never wear it again.

[AJ Holiday]

Yeah, I'm kind of jealous of people who can let go of. I am trying to let go of something.

[Tam Bam]

Yeah, me too.

[AJ Holiday]

Yeah. And really your clothes for beach, you know, resort beach attire. Like, it really. The stuff ain't that big. So all this extra you end up putting in your bag. Like, do I need all my brushes for makeup or do I need like one or two brushes in a sponge?

[Tam Bam]

Like, Right.

[AJ Holiday]

You know what I'm saying?

[Tam Bam]

Exactly. What was up? I had like three different sets of dishes. Like, why do I have three sets of dishes?

[AJ Holiday]

Like throw Facebook Marketplace right now? Ain't nobody bought them, but I do have some plates I want to like. Yeah, why. Why do I have like the cups, the. The four plates, the bowls, the, like

[Tam Bam]

for three different sets. Yeah. Throw some of that shit away.

[AJ Holiday]

You really. How many forks and spoons do you need?

[Tam Bam]

I still got diamonds. Doggy plate,

[AJ Holiday]

mama hold on, Bella. Stuff. I still got my dog stuff. And look, it's not in my house. It's in my stepdaddy house.

[Tam Bam]

You got somebody else hoarding it?

[AJ Holiday]

Yes, I still. I got hoard. I'm hoarding at other people. Like, I want my mind clear, dog.

[Tam Bam]

All right, what's the best? Wearing pajamas on the flight, bro.

[AJ Holiday]

Nasty.

[Tam Bam]

Ugh.

[AJ Holiday]

Disgusting.

[Tam Bam]

I hate that.

[AJ Holiday]

Take that bonnet off. Take that hair scarf off.

[Tam Bam]

Like, listen, if you are on a long flight and you get on the plane and then put your bonnet on when the lights go out, I'm not mad at that. If you're on a long flight, roll your hair up and put your bonnet on. We gonna be on this plane nine hours. I don't care. But don't walk through the airport like that. That's just so tacky.

[AJ Holiday]

I. I don't even understand, like, the thought process, for real. Like, I don't even. Like, nowadays, Like, I have been trying to consciously, consciously, like, put clothes on. So let me tell you what my putting clothes on is. It's like putting on workout clothes and throwing on a blazer. That's it. And so that's usually how I go to the airport. And, I mean, you are relaxed, but it looks. It just looks nice, right? It just looks bougie.

[Tam Bam]

Yeah, it looks done.

[AJ Holiday]

Sneakers on with your leggings and a little blazer.

[Tam Bam]

And I believe in having airport sweat. I believe in having airport swag. You're not gonna see me catch me walking through the airport looking crazy because you never know who you want to run into.

[AJ Holiday]

Exactly. Exactly. See, y' all ain't prepared for greatness, right? That's really what. Is what it's about. Like. Yeah, Ain't nobody checking for you with the bonnet on, sweet pea.

[Tam Bam]

Right?

[AJ Holiday]

Y' all got all these requirements for these men?

[Tam Bam]

Yes.

[AJ Holiday]

Let me see. Paying for priority boarding.

[Tam Bam]

I'll do it.

[AJ Holiday]

I've done it.

[Tam Bam]

Yeah, I'll do it.

[AJ Holiday]

Kind of waste of money, because I could. Wait. I have done it.

[Tam Bam]

I've.

[AJ Holiday]

I've only flown, like, first class twice. Like, nowadays. Have you seen the price of first class tickets just to go, like, to Costa Rica? The first class ticket was like, $5,000. For what?

[Tam Bam]

Yeah, yeah, I see. I'm kind of spoiled because, you know, I got y'. All. I got a spouse pass, so it's not even a buddy. It's like, the upgrade. So I'll be flying, and if there's a first class seat, I'll get it, you know?

[AJ Holiday]

Really?

[Tam Bam]

Yeah.

[AJ Holiday]

Somebody to get me a Spouse pass.

[Tam Bam]

Yeah. So y' all fly international first class. I'll look for the seats with extra, like, flights with the seats that have first class seats on it. Just so I can be in one of those, you know.

[AJ Holiday]

But you're not. So now that's a coupon.

[Tam Bam]

But it's not because I end up paying. Yeah, yeah. You have to pay like. And they don't went up. These ain't doing it for 2,000 no more. It's like $5,000 for your.

[AJ Holiday]

Because you paying $5. Well, I mean, not when you get left at airports and like that. Sometimes you get booted off a flight. But like I'm saying, this one flight for business class or first class is five grand. Like. Yeah, I would pay for that for a whole year of flying. For sure.

[Tam Bam]

Right.

[AJ Holiday]

I'll take more trips if I had some like that.

[Tam Bam]

Right.

[AJ Holiday]

So I would say paying for priority is not broke. It's not basic. Consider it bougie.

[Tam Bam]

Yeah.

[AJ Holiday]

You want to be first on the plane so you can make sure you get your bag up and overhead. That's really the only. What is the other reason to want to be first onto the plane? Like, it's very bougie. It's very bougie. And I am also the type of person who won't give a damn about the airline for the most part. I'm not with a Frontier boy, y'. All.

[Tam Bam]

Don't you have like.

[AJ Holiday]

Yes, I bought that last year. I bought it last year. The Go Wild pass. And I haven't been able to go wild yet.

[Tam Bam]

Yeah, I heard it's hard to go. Wow.

[AJ Holiday]

They're not even in Charleston anymore. I gotta. I gotta drive to Myrtle beach or Charlotte if I want to take a flight. And you know what the thing is with the Go Wild? You got to book it the day before you're trying to travel for international. I think it's five days in advance. Ten days in advance maybe. But for like, domestic trips, domestic flights, you gotta book the day before. How am I supposed to gauge that? Yeah, and the flight. Flights for other airlines would have went up sky high by the time I fuck with.

[Tam Bam]

Right? So, like, you ain't wild enough if you can't do it the day before.

[AJ Holiday]

They are fundraising. I think they're just trying to stay out of bankruptcy. Like Spirit, They. They. They're taking people's money because Priscilla just bought the shit. And she paid 399 for it. Can't find no flights. The next week it went down to 199. You know, like the, the rate is fluctuating. Like, my boyfriend bought it last year and I think he paid 399. At the time I turned around, I paid 199, like in February. And it's supposed to last until next year. Like, I should be able to use it until 2027. But now you're not even in Charleston.

[Tam Bam]

Right. Can't even go out flying first class for a one hour flight.

[AJ Holiday]

That's bougie.

[Tam Bam]

You put me in first class for a 15 minute.

[AJ Holiday]

It's bougie. I think that's bougie. It's not. Definitely not regular.

[Tam Bam]

Yes.

[AJ Holiday]

Yeah, I think you should get in first class at least once in life, man, so you could get some motivation you can manifest from first class. Like, that should like to aspire for that to be your. Your all the time.

[Tam Bam]

And not just that. It's good networking up there.

[AJ Holiday]

That part. That part too.

[Tam Bam]

Some interesting people doing interesting things.

[AJ Holiday]

Packing your own liquor in your suitcase.

[Tam Bam]

I don't see nothing wrong with that.

[AJ Holiday]

Me either. Did y' all be taxing?

[Tam Bam]

I think that's basic. I don't think that's broke. I think it's basic.

[AJ Holiday]

Yeah. Yeah. Cuz I think even if you got M's, like, you trying to take what you like,

[Tam Bam]

you go some places and they don't have, like, you go to Paris, shout out to Paris. I love y'. All. But the liquor selection is yuck. I don't want to drink Jack Daniels Daniels all day. Like, and then it's like stuff you don't recognize, you know, so you just have to bring your own with you.

[AJ Holiday]

Let's go down to social media edition.

[Tam Bam]

Okay. You want me to go? Okay.

[AJ Holiday]

Yeah, go ahead.

[Tam Bam]

Renting a luxury car for content.

[AJ Holiday]

I mean, I feel like people do that all the time. It's almost like the basic.

[Tam Bam]

That's what I say. Yeah. I just say that's basic because it's not broke. It's not broke. If you get. If you rent a luxury car, you're not broke, but it ain't bougie.

[AJ Holiday]

No, you could definitely be broke renting a luxury vehicle. That's the whole, like, premise of this whole, like, you're renting a luxury vehicle, spending how much? Way more money than it would cost you if you were able to afford to actually lease or get to make

[Tam Bam]

it look like it's really yours.

[AJ Holiday]

Yes.

[Tam Bam]

Okay.

[AJ Holiday]

Yeah. Like borderline broke.

[Tam Bam]

Yeah.

[AJ Holiday]

You, you, you, you flexing for the gram.

[Tam Bam]

Yeah.

[AJ Holiday]

Who they playing with? Talking about taking 50 pictures to post one. So how is that like broke bougie.

[Tam Bam]

They are basic.

[AJ Holiday]

That's basic? Yeah. Like, how is that. I don't understand.

[Tam Bam]

I don't get that one either.

[AJ Holiday]

Everybody does it. Especially if you're a female

[Tam Bam]

going on vacation. Just for content.

[AJ Holiday]

Just for content.

[Tam Bam]

I mean, I guess if you're a content creator, then that's work.

[AJ Holiday]

Yeah.

[Tam Bam]

And if you're getting paid to go on vacation, I ain't mad.

[AJ Holiday]

Yeah. I don't know. I wouldn't put that under any. That's. I think that might be just basic. Basic. Basic bougie. Basic bougie.

[Tam Bam]

Right. Right in the middle.

[AJ Holiday]

Six buying followers. And let's add on there. Buying a blue check.

[Tam Bam]

Broke, broke.

[AJ Holiday]

Why you got a thousand people following you and you need a blue check. You ain't even got no business. You're not even running a business, dog. You just want to have. You want to see that by your name. That does not.

[Tam Bam]

Once they made the blue check something you could buy, I no longer wanted it.

[AJ Holiday]

Me either.

[Tam Bam]

They ruined the value of it.

[AJ Holiday]

Yeah, me either. I'm cool. Posting cash online. Broke, broke, brokey, broken. Now it's funny, like, when people do the fan shit, man. They rapping like. I think it's funny then, but like, how the dudes be. Wait. Doing like, just. Yeah, yeah, yeah. In the bathroom, counting out honeys, like, get. Man, you probably had that same knot for 10 years. That's your bank right? Right there.

[Tam Bam]

That's your bank account right there.

[AJ Holiday]

Savings account on the floor. Or it could be rapper money.

[Tam Bam]

Yeah.

[AJ Holiday]

It's not even real bills.

[Tam Bam]

Making a breakup announcement.

[AJ Holiday]

Why is that even under any of these categories?

[Tam Bam]

I don't think that has anything to do with money or mentality. There's just some people do.

[AJ Holiday]

Yeah. I don't know.

[Tam Bam]

Go to Friendship Edition.

[AJ Holiday]

Keeping score of who paid last.

[Tam Bam]

No, that's broke

[AJ Holiday]

me. I believe so.

[Tam Bam]

Because if I got it, we going Venmo requesting 4.27. That's broke. Listen, I've been her. But I was broke. I was broke as. So I need my money.

[AJ Holiday]

I never bothered nobody about nothing. Like, it wasn't maybe middle school, maybe

[Tam Bam]

it was never like $4. But it was definitely small amounts. I want it back because I didn't have it. I didn't have it to give. You know, you're right. $4.

[AJ Holiday]

Had a friend text me about $2 or some change. We're at the. The line in express and she gave me like some extra change for some shit because I was short and I was like, I'll give it back. I did tell her I would give it back, but it was $2 and some change. And this is somebody who I would give my last. All the time. I couldn't believe it actually was. I turned off in the relationship. Turned me the fuck off in the friendship. Broke ass. Never bringing anything to the cookout. I do. I think that's some broke shit.

[Tam Bam]

Yeah, that's broke. You know what else is.

[AJ Holiday]

Without bringing something and don't.

[Tam Bam]

If we. If. All right, let's say you bring liquor and it never opened and you take it back. Fine. But if you taking an open bottle from a party that you brought. Okay.

[AJ Holiday]

All right. Leave that bottle there, right? Yeah. I don't go any place empty handed like this girl's birthday. Just, you know, this on Sunday. I didn't know her never. Well, I have actually seen her before, but I don't. I didn't know them personally and only seen them in social settings. But I'm bringing. Because I expect you to bring some. When I have something, I like to receive things.

[Tam Bam]

Right.

[AJ Holiday]

I just bought her a bouquet of flowers. You know what I'm saying? And I'm like, I'm just setting the expectation in case we end up friends after today, I'd be liking people to give me. And I just feel weird showing up to someplace I was invited to with nothing empty handed. Yeah, I'm bringing something, you know, all the time. I told y' all how I went to. To Camp Duvall. I brought Duvall a plant. He have no plants in his house. And he was so grateful for that plea. Like, man, I'm always giving people. Nobody bought me nothing. Just a plan. And that plant better be a live the next time I see it.

[Tam Bam]

Right?

[AJ Holiday]

Water in that plant because that was a 55 monsteria. Okay, that wasn't a cheap plant. Give me that plant. I got 20 plants damn near my house. Give me that. Give me that plant back if you ain't to taking care of it. But yeah, don't be going pulling up that people with nothing.

[Tam Bam]

No, I agree. Asking who all gonna be there that broke. I don't know. I always ask that.

[AJ Holiday]

Yeah. Because I might not want to be around them people.

[Tam Bam]

I need to know halfway.

[AJ Holiday]

Don't want to come. So now you let me. That's really why I didn't go to my nephew's cookout over the weekend.

[Tam Bam]

Because who all gonna be there? I had a friend that I was really close with and her dad used to just be so aggress sometimes. So I would ask her, who gonna be there? Because, you know, I ain't trying to be wilder with your daddy. I would never say that, but that's how I would be feeling. Like.

[AJ Holiday]

Yeah, like, you know, like. So my sister has some family members that she has to deal with because they're her family. Those people I don't with, I want to be around them being fake because I'm probably going to be there saying little slick shit to get a. To want to fight me me, because I want to fight them. So I just really just didn't go because of that. Because I want to beat somebody to up in my sister's family. So I didn't go sending a birthday text instead of a gift. I always said I'll send a little $50 lunch money, $20 or something, maybe.

[Tam Bam]

All right. To who? It just depends on who it is. Because some people just get a text and that should be. That should suffice, you know?

[AJ Holiday]

Yeah. So I don't think that is broke, Bougie. Or basic. That is regular. I mean, it's basic, I guess.

[Tam Bam]

Taking food home without asking from like. Like from your friend house.

[AJ Holiday]

Like just you just in the refrigerator and your mama refrigerator you broke.

[Tam Bam]

I would go in my mama. Yeah, me too.

[AJ Holiday]

And she give me.

[Tam Bam]

Yeah, like, that's. I don't know. I don't know what that is.

[AJ Holiday]

I about to eat all that. Take this all the time.

[Tam Bam]

Okay, Home edition, let's do a couple of these ones and a couple.

[AJ Holiday]

Having a wine fridge. You got one, don't you, Bougie? I don't even drink enough wine. I just bought like a little rack for decoration because I really don't drink wine like that. But I put it on the counter just to have a little wine spirits

[Tam Bam]

for somebody once I get. So I have a rack that holds like a hundred bottles, right? That big ass. Maybe not 100. I'm exaggerating. Maybe like 50 bottles. And I'm gonna have a sip and settle in party just so bitches could bring me bottles to fill that rack up. So next one is. Hold on. Sorry, y'. All. My phone. Having a guest bathroom nobody can use broke.

[AJ Holiday]

Yeah. Because it's a guest bathroom.

[Tam Bam]

Why can nobody use that?

[AJ Holiday]

You can't go in my bathroom, but you can go in the guest bathroom, right?

[Tam Bam]

That's what it's for.

[AJ Holiday]

Is it nasty in there?

[Tam Bam]

Yep. I don't know. It must be clean if nobody can use it, right? What is it? I never. I don't know nobody who has that. I've never seen that before.

[AJ Holiday]

Me either. Like, that's weird sleeping on it. Sleeping on a mattress with no bed frame. Listen, I'm gonna call broke.

[Tam Bam]

Broke.

[AJ Holiday]

And why your pillows so flat? It's paper thin.

[Tam Bam]

Yeah, you're brown.

[AJ Holiday]

That mattress, the mattress with no frame. You change that mattress and them damn pillows. Invest in some sleep. Get more over there.

[Tam Bam]

It's usually men paper plates at home every day,

[AJ Holiday]

man. I mean, my mom be washing paper plates, girl. And I had sent her a post one time off Instagram and say, I don't trust no that wash paper plates. It literally was made for her. I didn't even have to go created my mama. Like if, even if it's like a cookout or something like that, she be like, wash that plate off, cuz you gonna use that same plate again. And don't you can't get it real wet because then you gonna have a soggy plate. That is broke.

[Tam Bam]

That is broke.

[AJ Holiday]

You can just wash your plates. Why are you washing a paper plate? Even buying them? And I'm expensive, so is it broke?

[Tam Bam]

It's broken, but that's just. That's a broke shit. My best friend, even though she got plenty money, please do not snatch three paper towels off at her house. Like, if you take three paper towels, she will look at you like you fucking crazy. Why did you take three, even two? She like, you just need one for your hands. Why are you getting that many paper towels? She is the paper towel Nazi. And she will even have you like lay it out to let it dry. So by the time you have to wash your hands again, you can use it again, girl.

[AJ Holiday]

Why my boyfriend me doing shit like that? Like I don't give a fuck. I be using hella paper towels. And I buy Viva. So he, he will hide like paper towels that he wants to reuse because he knows as soon as I see some shit balled up somewhere, it's going in the trash. He'll put it in the drawer because he wants to reuse it. And he feels like I'd be wasting paper towels, I guess. Or like, these are pretty thick, you know what I'm saying? You remember the old lady who was living with me, Selita? So I've always purchased Viva. I just like the thick paper towel. But once I saw how she was utilizing my paper towel, the bitch had lined the refrigerator, lined all the drawers with my Viva paper towel. And so I started buying cheap paper towel. You know, she. She had like a Canadian, European, Caribbean accent. So one day she was like, you stopped buying the nice paper toes. I'm like, yes, because you be overusing them. Yes. Like you're bougie. She's bougie as but can't afford.

[Tam Bam]

But broke at the same time. Yes.

[AJ Holiday]

So hey, you want to do some bougie shit on somebody else's dime? No.

[Tam Bam]

All right. Relationship Edition.

[AJ Holiday]

This one. Sharing a bank account before marriage. How I don't understand. Like to me that's too grown for me.

[Tam Bam]

Right.

[AJ Holiday]

Each other a little too much for me. Like.

[Tam Bam]

Right. You're going together.

[AJ Holiday]

Like we could actually we could have an account together. But not my primary.

[Tam Bam]

I understand how these would be bougie. Basic or broke. This is just preference.

[AJ Holiday]

Yeah. None of these. Actually sharing one Netflix account after. No, I won't say after breaking out. Let me add my own in here. So sharing one next Netflix or Amazon or any subscription amongst your whole family that is not broke because why Amazon

[Tam Bam]

Prime Netflix done got slick. Because they keep kicking me off my sister every. Every day. I had to go ahead and just buy one. Yes. Okay.

[AJ Holiday]

I'll add a broke one in there. For me. I have the cheapest netflix. It's 7.99amonth. I'm not paying for.

[Tam Bam]

No, I don't give you watch commercial.

[AJ Holiday]

Yeah. I don't care. I just get on Instagram in between time if I'm. Because I still don't watch Netflix enough to give a damn. So I guess that would be my broke for subscriptions.

[Tam Bam]

I'm definitely paying the 19. All right. So now you can get the ones without commercial and then you can get 4k without commercials. I was like that 1080p is good enough for me. That's how I feel like I can. So that's my broke right there.

[AJ Holiday]

Talk Back edition. We got the we talk back. This is the last segment, y'. All.

[Tam Bam]

All right. Yeah.

[AJ Holiday]

Taking your wig off the minute you get in the car.

[Tam Bam]

That's for you.

[AJ Holiday]

I've never. You know damn well I'm not about to be a driving down the road with little hair. No. You never see that.

[Tam Bam]

All right, this one. Screenshotting messages before responding. How's that broke Bougie or basic.

[AJ Holiday]

I don't know. You throwing them in GP chat GPT first.

[Tam Bam]

But that's. How's that broke basic mind.

[AJ Holiday]

Depending on Chad GPT. Having a going out phone and a real life phone.

[Tam Bam]

Let's just hope. This is hoe right there.

[AJ Holiday]

Adding the extra category.

[Tam Bam]

Hiding stacks from your family. That's his big back. That's not broke.

[AJ Holiday]

Oh, I. I thought it was stacks like money. Oh, hiding snacks. It's really not big back. Like, I want to keep my bougie snacks that y' all won't pay for, but you'll eat up because I got it. I bought it.

[Tam Bam]

So, bro,

[AJ Holiday]

Calling yourself an entrepreneur but selling nothing. Most of the on the Internet facts.

[Tam Bam]

I'm an entrepreneur. You don't sell that. But coochie. But I guess that's the. I guess that's a.

[AJ Holiday]

That's an item that Entrepreneur. Entrepreneurs.

[Tam Bam]

That's the first entrepreneur in America, as a matter of fact. Last one. Ordering lobster every time someone else is paying.

[AJ Holiday]

It depends on how much money someone else got.

[Tam Bam]

Yeah, but I order that when I'm paying, too, though, so.

[AJ Holiday]

Yeah, me too. But will I ask for the biggest lobster y' all got?

[Tam Bam]

Let me get a tomahawk.

[AJ Holiday]

I've done that to Charlemagne before we was in Grenada. And when I tell y', all, my lobster was, like, as big as a baby. The claws was like. The meat that was in the tail was like a lobster was like a chicken breast size like a stick.

[Tam Bam]

Wow. I know. That was so good. When it came to the table, everybody was like, God damn.

[AJ Holiday]

God. The claw was as big as my face. It was like. And it was only 70, though. Yeah, it was only 70. It still was. But I did order. I asked specifically for the biggest lobster they had in the. In the restaurant, though, and wasn't caring about how much it was. The could have came out to203,400. I wouldn't have known. Not to say I don't care, though, because I definitely am not taking advantage of my friends.

[Tam Bam]

Right. But he said, get what you want right there. This was fun.

[AJ Holiday]

I know. Anyway, yeah. We just wanted to do something outside of the normal talking about and Right. Whatever.

[Tam Bam]

Now we just call broke.

[AJ Holiday]

I wish you could get to some on these wild cards on an. On a designer belt, but driving a busted car. Look, I got a couple designer belts, and my car is 2012, 2013. I don't even know what year my car is real. No, it's not busted. My. My car is running. I have been looking for a new car, y'. All. Car payments on new pre owned used. Man, this is nuts. It's nuts. It's nuts, man. But I'm.

[Tam Bam]

Here we go.

[AJ Holiday]

I might have a Porsche parked outside of my apartment.

[Tam Bam]

That's broke. Yes.

[AJ Holiday]

Would I be, like, crazy if I bought me a Porsche? She was like, before you got a house. Yes.

[Tam Bam]

Yes.

[AJ Holiday]

I.

[Tam Bam]

But I'm like, why don't you lease one?

[AJ Holiday]

It's the same car payments. Is the same car payment, you know?

[Tam Bam]

Right.

[AJ Holiday]

But it's more so because if you want to get a new car in the next five years or whatever, but the payment is going to be the same.

[Tam Bam]

Yeah, the payment is going to be the same, but you're not locked in. You're not stuck with a Porsche. You know, you could drive it for two years and then buy a house.

[AJ Holiday]

Same money as if I had a 3,400 thousand dollar house.

[Tam Bam]

Yeah.

[AJ Holiday]

Why can't I park, park a Porsche out this? Yeah, I can go buy me a house. Yeah, I could. So I don't know.

[Tam Bam]

Touche.

[AJ Holiday]

Get the porch first.

[Tam Bam]

Yeah, I ain't mad at that. Come pick me up,

[AJ Holiday]

Y'. All. If you enjoyed this episode, y' all tuned in every Thursday on the iHeartRadio app. Whoever the you get your podcast at, this is your co host, AJ Holiday 2.0 on Insta. 2.0 on Instagram. It's kicking.

[Tam Bam]

Tam y. It's official. Tam bam on Instagram. I love y' all so much and I appreciate y' all for tuning in to us every Thursday. We've been doing this six years. This is our sixth year. That time just flew by, you guys. I love y' all so much. Y' all. Follow We Talk Back podcast. Y' all remember, speak now

[AJ Holiday]

and never hold your bougie or broke.

[Tam Bam]

Never hold your broke and never hold your basic.

[AJ Holiday]

Basic.

[Tam Bam]

It's all good.

[AJ Holiday]

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[Tam Bam]

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