Get TF Out My House

Summary

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We Talk Back — "Get TF Out My House"

Hosts: TamBam & AJ Holiday
Date: October 30, 2025
Podcast Network: The Black Effect & iHeartPodcasts

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Episode Overview

This Halloween-themed episode of "We Talk Back" finds TamBam and AJ Holiday diving into true haunted house stories, exploring the eerie connection between homes and lingering energies. With their characteristic humor, insight, and unfiltered banter, the hosts share chilling tales, discuss celebrity news, and reflect on personal experiences with the supernatural. The episode’s core: whether some houses "remember" the drama, trauma, or even tragedies that take place inside.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Catching Up: Weekends, Blockchain, and Family & Work Life

(03:01–07:49)

• AJ: Shares excitement about Halloween, ongoing love for the season, and recent attempts at blockchain certification.
  • "If you followin' the money, we about to be in a digital society for sure... If you don't get with it, you just gonna get left behind." (AJ, 04:10–05:24)
• TamBam: Describes a whirlwind weekend moving between weddings (both working and as a guest), including attending her father's remarriage, meeting her new stepmom, and letting go of grudges.

2. Celebrity & Pop Culture Round-up

(07:55–26:10)

• Gucci Mane & Keyshia Ka’oir on The Breakfast Club

  • The hosts discuss the couple’s public interview, addressing rumors about Gucci Mane’s mental health and Ka’oir’s role as a "handler."
  • AJ criticizes social media for miscontextualizing Ka’oir's words, defending her but questioning her (non-professional) advice services:
    • "Girl, you are not a licensed therapist, are you?" (AJ, 11:02)
    • "She’s making money off his mental illness, essentially." (AJ, 11:14)
    • "Based on the things you’re doing to your face—it’s with her esteem for sure. Body dysmorphia." (AJ, 15:00–15:38)

• AI and Human Rights — Ohio Bill

  • Ohio lawmakers propose the ban of AI marriages and preventing AI from holding rights or property.
  • The duo spirals into a discussion of the weirdness of our digital era, AI artists, and suspicions about public figures like Elon Musk ("Does Elon Musk look real to y’all? ...He acts like AI," AJ, 19:23).
  • Reference to films and shows about AI consciousness crossing into the real world, blending spooky tech and ghostly fears.

• Versus Recap: Cash Money vs No Limit

  • AJ and TamBam reminisce on the recent Verzus, dissecting the generational vibe (Hot Boys vs. Master P) and the notable absence of Lil Wayne:
    • "If it ain't all of us, it ain’t the hot boys." (TamBam quoting, 23:05)
    • The hosts laugh about Master P’s on-stage energy and Birdman’s behavior.

• Toni Braxton & Family Drama

  • They muse over Toni Braxton and Birdman's relationship, the dynamics involving her sister Tamar, and air suspicions about family roles at public events.

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3. Main Theme: Haunted Houses & Unsolved Mysteries

(30:44–57:31)

The Episode’s Spooky Shift

• AJ: "Tonight's episode isn't just about ghost stories. It's true ghost stories. The kind of stories that make you question whether some houses remember the sh*t that be happening in them." (30:44)
• Discussion about how energy in homes persists or fades depending on human presence, laying the groundwork for their three true haunted house stories.

A. Villisca Axe Murder House (Iowa, 1912)

(35:40–37:28)

• Josiah & Sarah Moore, their family, and two neighbor girls are murdered with an axe as they sleep—killer never found.
• Haunting phenomena: footsteps, laughter, doors slamming at the time of murders, dead flashlights.
• Would they stay?
  • "I'm more scared of the living than the dead any day, period." (TamBam, 38:23)
  • For $10,000 both say they’d stay the night, but with major side-eye.

B. Myrtles Plantation (Louisiana, 1796)

(39:12–44:06)

• Enslaved woman Chloe is punished and later poisons the family (accidentally killing them); is hanged by her peers.
• Apparitions: green-turbaned woman, handprints on mirrors that won’t clean, faces trapped in glass.
• Discussion about spirits in mirrors, dangers of reflective surfaces, and devices as portals ("Your cellphone screen is a mirror...and you know, the phone’s watching us," AJ, 42:41).

C. Sally House (Atchison, Kansas)

(48:21–49:54)

• Dr. operates on young Sally before anesthesia, she dies screaming, now "haunts" men who enter nursery (scratches, cold air, objects flying, dog refuses upstairs).
• Most people can’t last long in this notoriously violent house; TamBam only interested "if there's money in it."
• "Would you go in that nursery alone? With the lights off?" (AJ, 49:54)

Personal Haunting Experiences

(57:31–67:36)

• TamBam: Tells of an attempt to photograph MS treatment info in a grieving teacher's home— every copy or photo failed, the room turned icy, no explanation. "Nobody can tell me I'm tripping." (57:42)
• AJ: Shares stories of "shadow blobs," unexplained noises, haunted childhood homes built on graveyards, and the belief that drugs/alcohol can open you to spirits—“You drinking spirits, literally.” (55:17)
• They riff on kids’ deaths as especially tragic, restless haunting ("Anything with dead kids, little children...I don’t want no part of that." TamBam, 57:13)
• Babysitting story—attic footsteps so strong they never returned ("If it was a squirrel, it had to be about a 210-pound squirrel." TamBam, 65:51)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “If you don’t get with it, you just gonna get left behind…make sure you’re prepared.”
  — AJ Holiday on blockchain and societal change (05:24)

• "I'm more scared of the living than the dead any day, period."
  — TamBam, haunted house segment (38:23)

• "She making money off his mental illness, essentially."
  — AJ on Keyshia Ka’oir selling advice sessions (11:14)

• "Does Elon Musk look real to y’all? … He acts like AI."
  — AJ Holiday, AI segment (19:23)

• "I have done that plenty times in my life. Like, some s**t is going on in the room with me. And I just go to sleep. Like, don't touch me and we good, right?"
  — AJ Holiday, on handling spirits (38:38)

• "Mirrors can trap souls...don’t forget your phone screen counts, babe."
  — TamBam & AJ, ghosts and technology (41:27–41:42)

• "You drinking spirits, literally. We got to pay attention to words—they don’t call that s**t that for no reason."
  — AJ Holiday, on supernatural and alcohol (55:17)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Blockchain, tech society & weekend catch-up: 03:01–07:49
• Gucci Mane & Keyshia Ka’oir discussion: 07:55–15:38
• AI, tech, and weirdness in politics: 15:49–20:57
• Verzus: Cash Money vs No Limit: 20:32–24:43
• Toni Braxton/Birdman family talk: 24:50–26:07
• Begin haunted house topic: 30:44
• Villisca Axe Murder House: 35:40–37:28
• Myrtles Plantation: 39:12–44:06
• Sally House: 48:21–49:54
• Personal ghost encounters: 57:31–67:36
• Zombie apocalypse, coping strategies: 67:36–70:00
• Listener call for ghost stories & closing: 70:06–71:15

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Episode Tone & Closing Advice

• Unfiltered, comedic, and real; a mix of spooky, sassy, and reflective.
• Laughter is never far, even while talking about the dead, technology, or mental health.
• Final wisdom: "Energy doesn’t disappear, it just finds a new room to live in." (TamBam, 56:14)
• AJ closes out: “Don’t hold that house. Get the f**k up out of there.” (71:04)

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Listener Call-to-Action

• Share your own ghost stories for Halloween via social media.
• Tune in every Thursday for more of TamBam & AJ’s unique takes at the intersection of Black femininity, culture, and unfiltered everyday realities.

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This episode is a prime example of "We Talk Back"'s ability to blend personal stories, cultural critique, and humor—even in the face of ghosts.

Transcript

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[AJ Holiday]

Wait a minute, Sophia, how do you know she's a cult leader?

[Sophia]

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[AJ Holiday]

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[Tam Bam]

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[AJ Holiday]

Welcome to We Talk Back podcast, a production of iHeartRadio and the Black Effect Network.

[Tam Bam]

We're just two unapologetically black women with an opinion who talk back.

[AJ Holiday]

What's up, y'? All? It's your girl, A.J. holiday. What's up, Tam Bam?

[Tam Bam]

Hey, y'.

[AJ Holiday]

All.

[Tam Bam]

It's Tam Bam. I love y' all so, so much. Thank y' all for coming back with us. It's a scary week. I'm excited.

[AJ Holiday]

I love Halloween, I think. I think people like Halloween more than any other holiday. For real.

[Tam Bam]

Christmas for me.

[AJ Holiday]

But then, yeah, Christmas and Halloween right after that, I think, yeah, my weekend was, you know, regular. Same thing. TJ Maxx, Target, Costco, the whole nine yards. I did do something I've been doing recently. I started trying to get certification in. In blockchain. Okay. So I took a couple courses this weekend I was supposed to be doing all year long because that's what we heading at. You know what I'm saying? If you follow in the money, we about to be in a digital society for sure. So you better understand what that looks like for you and your family.

[Tam Bam]

I don't even know what blockchain is. So what is that?

[AJ Holiday]

Like crypto? Oh, yeah. So everything is very hard to articulate, you know what I'm saying? It's hard to explain any of that, which is why I'm taking the courses, so that I can. So that I can also understand because I got plenty coins, you know what I'm saying? But it's not just that. There's a lot of. There's fundamentals behind all these different coins. Right? So in the future. I know I've been saying xrp, xrp. Xrp for how long? Okay. So that is probably going to be your payment systems XRP would be used for. So most of the banks will be using xrp. Y' all know how LA was that last week when Twitter and all that went down? Because aws, Amazon went down. Was that last. Yeah, me too. I missed it and I saw it after the fact. But even how. When you think about how when TikTok supposedly went down because they were being, you know, bought, or they shutting it down. No, they were switching that to a different server. That's what the BE had like is they want to make you think that.

[Tam Bam]

All this going on. We're really.

[AJ Holiday]

Exactly. Yeah. They just. Really just gearing up for the New world order. So that's where we at. So if you don't get with it, you're just gonna get left behind. There's no sense in complaining because the things are happening. So just make sure you do. Do your due diligence to make sure you're prepared. And that's what I've been doing. Well, what were you doing for your weekend?

[Tam Bam]

This weekend was a weekend of love for me. I had a wedding, I had a bride, so I had to do. I had to go to Spartanburg. It was crazy. I worked all day Saturday, Friday in Charlotte. Drove back to Columbia that night, got up early that morning, drove to Spartanburg for that wedding, did hair for the wedding, attended the wedding. I left a little bit early, drove back to Charlotte from Spartanburg so I could catch a flight to Chicago for another wedding. Lord, I know. So then I flew to Chicago.

[AJ Holiday]

You was working at these weddings or guests?

[Tam Bam]

So the first one I was working and a guest, because this is a friend. Then the second one was my father's.

[AJ Holiday]

I hear that. Big Daddy. Big Daddy Kane.

[Tam Bam]

Yeah. He got married again over the weekend, so he had a good time. We got toe up party, and I like his new wife.

[AJ Holiday]

I was just about to ask you how you like your mama, you know, your young mama, because how old is she in comparison to you?

[Tam Bam]

She's. She's 55, I think.

[AJ Holiday]

Oh, okay. Oh, she ain't like my. My. My step mama. Literally a few years older than me.

[Tam Bam]

No, she's in her 50s. But she seemed nice and she was a lot of fun. So I let go of all the grudges I did have that I came with.

[AJ Holiday]

Is that your first time meeting her? So how you had grudges without meeting her?

[Tam Bam]

Girl, that's a long story. I have to tell you. The hell, huh?

[AJ Holiday]

I said, what the hell?

[Tam Bam]

Yeah. But I let that go and we had a good time and it was nice. And then I. We. I missed my flight, so I didn't end up getting back home till late last night or getting back to Charlotte. I didn't get back to South Carolina, too, moments before we got on the mic. So it's been a big thing.

[AJ Holiday]

Busy body.

[Tam Bam]

Hope you get some sleep right tonight. Let's get in the sins.

[AJ Holiday]

Okay. Have y' all seen Gucci Mane and Keisha Kior on the Breakfast Club? This is last week, but I want to talk about it. Okay. Because I watched the interview, but I.

[Tam Bam]

Saw them, all the clips and stuff. That brought me, like, some pause, I'll say that.

[AJ Holiday]

Yeah. The reason Why I want to talk about. Because I did watch the interview, right? Because I like them. I like Keisha Ko and Gucci Mane. It's like, a little. It's kind of weird. The interview was kind of weird because I think people expect Gucci Mane to be like, y' all don't realize these motherfuckers is almost 50 years old. Like, y' all want them to keep this real nigga Persona the rest of their lives. It's almost like men who. Like, dudes who walk around knowing they need glasses and just be blind their whole life because they think glasses is whack. You know what I'm saying? He's recognized because even though he's a celebrity, celebrities are not exempt from being serial killers. They're not exempt from having mental health issues. They're not exempt from being schizophrenic, human. They're not exempt from. None of. They are human, right? So people saying that Gucci Mane is cloned and she's the handler. This is like, y' all know I go deep with conspiracies. That's not this. That nigga got the same birthday as my ex fiance, bitch. I know exactly who she dealing with, and I know what she's dealing with. But in the interview, you know, Charlemagne asked her a very important question, like, who do you talk to? You know what I'm saying? Like, you've been showing up for Gucci Mane, and you're. You're always on the front line when he has these episodes. He hasn't had one in a couple years, she said, because she can see when it's kind of coming on. And the things she was saying, I'm like, damn, I don't know if this could have been medicated or not, but a lot of the stuff, like, for real, I literally have seen it, you know, like, you in a relationship with somebody, and they're not speaking all of a sudden, just not talking. Just in the house, quiet. Like, I do, like, silence, too. But imagine, like, you was just having a conversation, and now you giving me, like, silent treatment for the rest of the day. Like, just.

[Tam Bam]

I've never seen nothing like that before.

[AJ Holiday]

Yeah, so this is what some of the things she said, like, some of the signs when she thinks the episodes are coming on, right? And Charmaine asked her, like, you know, you've been so strong. Like, how do. Who do you talk to? And she was like, she don't talk to nobody. The reason why I wanted to talk about this is because I go now. I went to her website after the fact. But I saw a post on Instagram where a therapist and this therapist, he actually came on on the show once on, we talked back, but he posted where she was on her website. She is selling general life advice and it says nothing is off limits. You or your family members struggling with bipolar disorder, mental health issues, relationships, mindset, goal. Mindset, body goals, confidence. If you need clarity, Keisha's listening and keeping it real with you for $525. Okay. To get a one on one conversation with her. Girl, you are not a licensed therapist, are you?

[Tam Bam]

Okay, right. Well, that's what she said. General advice. Because that's all she can give, right?

[AJ Holiday]

Yeah. And I mean, you know, I want.

[Tam Bam]

To talk to Keisha korra. I don't know, 5:25.

[AJ Holiday]

I feel like she's almost like, you know, she's. She's making money off of his mental illness, essentially.

[Tam Bam]

Might as well. I mean, y' all went on the interview and talked about it. If you can turn it into a coin, I don't see why not. But I agree. I just didn't like I did. I won't say I didn't like. I didn't. I would never show nobody's platform with my man and say he is weak and I am strong.

[AJ Holiday]

See now, okay, I watched the interview, right? And I saw that clip. I don't remember that being said in the same context as what the Internet is putting it at. I mean, what social media now has it as in that clip and the whole weekend. Like, not the whole weekend because I watched it Sunday. So when I saw that clip, I kept saying I need to go back and see because it be that type of shit. I really be wanting to see if people really just be putting stupid ass propaganda to make shit up. I do not remember hearing her say that. And I pay attention because I be, you know, we got to talk about shit on here. Like, I be wanting to know what's going on in the world. So I did not hear her say that at all. She said it right, but not in the context of how the clip's in it. Yeah. So I. I'll let y' all know next week. Okay. Y' all ain't gonna do the research. I'll do.

[Tam Bam]

I'm not.

[AJ Holiday]

So Nicki Minaj had hella to say and all. And they really didn't even say much about Nicki Minaj. You know, Keisha Ko was alluding to the fact that how people don't pay homage to Gucci mane as much as she thinks that they should, you know, Charlemagne challenged her a little bit on that too. Like, you know, like Gucci mane is a staple in hip hop. Like, you know what I'm saying? I feel like he get his just due for the most part. But he has crossed up some people. You do keep doing, like how he was selling niggas on Twitter. When was that? 2000. Whenever. Right before he went to prison and did that bid. He was literally selling his artists on Twitter. Like, I let Walker go for about whatever that. Like 2 million or something. Just being. But he was having an episode at that time. He was even going in on Keisha Kyor at that time too. But Nicki Minaj, all these. I don't know why. I guess they have an ongoing beef now. There were images that came out the show. Nikki said, this bitch been trying to be me for years. I don't. I don't know how many pictures they have of Keisha Kor wearing the same shit Nicki Minaj is wearing. And y' all know that's a big thing for women, especially in. In the entertainment industry. Like, ain't no other clothes out here. So that was one of the things that Nicki Minaj was trying to point out, like how if that's fair.

[Tam Bam]

Yeah. Because if you look around, all the got the same hairstyle. Everybody wear this. I mean, it's trending. So if you were wearing something that look trendy, she and she can afford to get the same.

[AJ Holiday]

They all wear trendy. Yeah, they all look trendy to me. Like, I mean, I don't think I. I think Keisha Ko be putting on too much. Too much at one time. Especially when we used to do Mohawk. I mean, cute, but damn, man, that was so much stuff. Like a damn Power Ranger every time.

[Tam Bam]

It's a lot.

[AJ Holiday]

But everybody was talking about Keisha K on face. Okay. Including Nicki Minaj on Twitter, on space.

[Tam Bam]

She got stung by a bee.

[AJ Holiday]

Oh, no.

[Tam Bam]

I woke up.

[AJ Holiday]

I got stung by a be. That was so funny. So I guess that is so since the Internet is talking about her face. That was. Was her rebuttal that she no girl.

[Tam Bam]

Some filler and ain't healed, ain't set yet.

[AJ Holiday]

It hadn't set yet. That's what I was thinking too. But just to close out this Gucci mane right quick. She can say that it's not with her mental health, but based on the things that you're doing to your face. Imagine if your having an episode and he say some to you like, you ugly today. Because she said he would say Real mean, nasty things. She thinks it is not affecting her mental health. It absolutely is. And it's showing in how you. The things that she's doing to herself. It's with her esteem, for sure.

[Tam Bam]

Body dysmorphia. Yeah, exactly. A lot of us got a little touch.

[AJ Holiday]

Yeah. And that's her prognosis while she diagnosing him.

[Tam Bam]

Right.

[AJ Holiday]

That's what I see, girl. I know what else we got going on.

[Tam Bam]

Spiritual World put out this article saying that Ohio lawmakers have proposed a bill to ban AI from marrying humans. House Bill 469 will block AI from gaining any human rights, including owning property or running a company. And it's crazy that this is the world that we live in.

[AJ Holiday]

Is nuts.

[Tam Bam]

But, you know, Ohio lawmakers have introduced a new bill that would ban AI from marrying humans and block artificial intelligence from gaining any human rights, including owner property or running a business. And it makes sense because I did not see that Timberland got a new AI artist that he just signed.

[AJ Holiday]

But, I mean, and artists are businesses. Right? So there's a thin line right there. Right. That's like the gray area, because that AI artist will essentially be participating in commerce like he. That AI artist would be doing business. Yeah, Right. But I could see just how people do like the. When they want to hide money like that. Not high, but it's just business. When you put all your shit, like in a trust or into an llc. Now you could put all your. Into an AI, Right. And now that's your surrogate acting as you in the virtual world, basically. So they do need to put measures in place. Just imagine, like when they first came up with cell phones, nobody was calculating the fact that gonna be texting and driving. And you know what I'm saying, like, until people started dying from texting and driving. So we all. This technology is. Is, you know, coming faster.

[Tam Bam]

Yeah.

[AJ Holiday]

Then they could put the protocols in. Into place. So I definitely agree that there needs to be something in place because. Remember that little boy who committed suicide.

[Tam Bam]

Because the AI told me advocated. Yeah. For him to go.

[AJ Holiday]

Yeah. Like, come to me, basically.

[Tam Bam]

Yeah.

[AJ Holiday]

So is this. Is this show. Did I mention this before? This show called Feed on Amazon. It's a series on Amazon called Feed. Y' all watch that? Because AI in this movie was actually consciousness. It was conscious, it was artificial. Well, I think artificial consciousness is coming next. Right. But it was actually spirits. The AI were actually spirits that were trying to come back to this side, and they were hijacking people's bodies through the technology, through these like the little glasses or whatever that they put on to review all their memories. And like, that. The AI was hijacking that. The AI was spirits.

[Tam Bam]

I seen this movie on Tubi the other night about some good woman spirits that wanted to come back because they never had a good man. And they was taking the body of hoes and they was turning women.

[AJ Holiday]

They was like, pray the ho away.

[Tam Bam]

Pray the hoe away.

[AJ Holiday]

And like, you can't spell ho without house. I mean, housewife without hope.

[Tam Bam]

Right? They was the h. The hoe. Her spirit would go to, like, this oblivion of some sort. And then a good woman from the past would be in her body. And cupola can be a wife.

[AJ Holiday]

Yo. So basically, that's like repenting, I guess. I don't know. I gotta watch that. What the. Who came up with that?

[Tam Bam]

I know that was.

[AJ Holiday]

That's not like some. I would come up with shame. But, yeah, they gotta put some to measures in place because, you know, I think that there are probably a lot of AI companies being ran right now.

[Tam Bam]

Right?

[AJ Holiday]

Does Elon Musk look real to y'?

[Tam Bam]

All? No, but he got all his babies. He can't. We can't make no air.

[AJ Holiday]

Do we. Do he. Do we know if he actually exists? We haven't seen these people. I need to see in person because everybody could be in on it. The president could be in on it. We don't know until we see them because he definitely looks like a robot to me. He acts like. He acts like AI. The guy who owns. Have you ever. I forgot his name, but he owns Chat GPT. He created Chat GPT, the creator of Chat GPT. Google him and watch. He did an interview with Tucker Carlson like, a couple months ago. That isn't real.

[Tam Bam]

That right there is not real. Like on the plane. That white lady on the plane.

[AJ Holiday]

That is not real. That ain't real for real. She might have. She might have been telling the truth that day. And I need her. They made her recant. But to wrap up sins. Did y' all watch Verses?

[Tam Bam]

Okay.

[AJ Holiday]

Cash Money versus no Limit. Did y' all watch it? I watched it.

[Tam Bam]

I just saw the little ending. I missed it because I was at the wedding.

[AJ Holiday]

Oh, yeah. I mean, I didn't watch. It happened.

[Tam Bam]

It was the very end.

[AJ Holiday]

Because it was live on the 25th. I watched it on Sunday. Either was Sunday or Monday. I watched it, you know, like, it's just two different. I don't want to say generations, because essentially they were in the same generation. It's just that, you know, hot boys Music sounds like that's the new sound. And Master P sound was a little bit older based on how it sounded at the. At the. At the verses. Like all the hot. Boy, I want to hear right now. Every single song that they played.

[Tam Bam]

I'm not really. I still listen to all that too, though.

[AJ Holiday]

You be listening about. About it.

[Tam Bam]

Yeah. I don't know.

[AJ Holiday]

You go right now about.

[Tam Bam]

About it to Columbia.

[AJ Holiday]

Girl, you crazy as hell. I had a no limit chain. I tried to tattoo Tru on my arm. I'm saying right now. I'm not. I'm still listening to hot boys. Like all that. I want to hear like bg. Like, I don't go listen about it. That's what I'm saying right now. Back then. Absolutely. I had every CD every week. Them was dropping a CD every week for like a year or two. Yeah. I had all of them have all of them, actually.

[Tam Bam]

It's nostalgic. All that is a bunch of old up on that stage.

[AJ Holiday]

Yes. So Lil Wayne apparently was in Vegas, because that's where it was. And he didn't show.

[Tam Bam]

They played a millie and everybody just was on. First of all, the crowd did not pass the vibe check. Ain't it?

[AJ Holiday]

Was them too high up or something? I feel like the stage was high.

[Tam Bam]

Yeah.

[AJ Holiday]

Because I was looking in the audience. Yeah. I was trying to see, like, was people lit for real? Like when they put cameras on people, they wasn't looking too lit.

[Tam Bam]

Yeah. They just looked there. I was like, they. Where's the energy?

[AJ Holiday]

And it was too many people on the stage. Like, Master P was just running in place the whole time doing his little thing. Like he couldn't even move around.

[Tam Bam]

First of all, that little jog is so tired. Please stop doing it.

[AJ Holiday]

They can burn a calorie. He's trying to get his last few steps in. You know, you try and reach that 10,000 for the day, you just run in place for a little bit.

[Tam Bam]

And Birdman said, foot turf on the mic. Did you hear that?

[AJ Holiday]

They say that's why Lil Wayne ain't come. Because Lil Wayne don't go. Don't ain't with hot boys if Turkey ain't involved.

[Tam Bam]

He said, if it all of us, it ain't the hot boys.

[AJ Holiday]

Yeah. So. And that's real. That's real. And Birdman basically kept leaving off stage every time Master P come to came to perform. Like he was real.

[Tam Bam]

Like, wow.

[AJ Holiday]

That on drugs. Okay. He was falling asleep. I saw a video. Not. Not at the show. Birdman. Not at the show. But another Video recently where he was falling asleep and at the very end of verses, like he talking is like that nigga on something. It's like he could have went to bed right then too.

[Tam Bam]

And slurring and get Toni Braxton. Every time I see him, that's what pop in my head.

[AJ Holiday]

See, we be thinking people be bad bitches, and then you got to look at who they fucking like, girl, what's your esteem like aside from the money? What. What are you doing, Toni Braxton?

[Tam Bam]

What are you doing? I'm confused because I just feel like you could just have any man in the world. In my head, that would be the case.

[AJ Holiday]

You know that don't be the case. Maybe women don't have access to the men that they think they should have access to. Just like men don't have access to the women that they think they should have access to. But I know, I don't know where.

[Tam Bam]

In my heart Toni Braxton, the she.

[AJ Holiday]

She a bad. Still.

[Tam Bam]

Still 50?

[AJ Holiday]

Hell yeah. I don't know. So you saw that.

[Tam Bam]

It's crazy.

[AJ Holiday]

But didn't they say they had an annulment? Didn't we read that a couple months ago?

[Tam Bam]

But I said I remember talking about it in his head, so they must do.

[AJ Holiday]

I was just about to say that. So Tamar was up there wiping the sweat off a Birdman head and she's saying, that's my brother.

[Tam Bam]

Right.

[AJ Holiday]

But that clip I sent you with them arguing on their. On the Braxtons, what the was that about? Because I feel like the sister was like you. Birdman, I think that was. Well, I mean, steal it from me. I don't know. Why would Tony Braxton would get up to fight her about that then and then now you wiping his head.

[Tam Bam]

First of all, why would I wouldn't. Personally, I'm just not wiping none of my nobody's husband head for no reason. Nobody.

[AJ Holiday]

They got nobody else to do it.

[Tam Bam]

My sisters know. Nobody says, why are you there?

[AJ Holiday]

And Toni Braxton ain't there.

[Tam Bam]

She said her sister couldn't be there, so she was there to support.

[AJ Holiday]

So you got more time than Tony Braxton to be there for her husband. Okay.

[Tam Bam]

Maybe she just wanted to go to the show. Her brother in law is the hang in in charge of, you know, one of the side. I'm trying to just find a way.

[AJ Holiday]

For you go to the show. But why is you wiping my head?

[Tam Bam]

Like, don't ever wipe my head. Let him sweat. Let that sweat burn his eyes out. Don't touch him. It's weird.

[AJ Holiday]

Yeah. What Was that now? No.

[Tam Bam]

What are we talking about today?

[AJ Holiday]

I don't know. You tell me.

[Tam Bam]

It's Halloween, y'. All. Y' all know I love my Halloween, so I wanted to talk to y' all about some true stories of houses. How much do y' all love your house? We're gonna talk about it when we get back.

[AJ Holiday]

I've never done a live recording before podcast. I've just never done it this week.

[Sophia]

On the Bright side, Chrissy Teigen, like, you've never heard her before.

[AJ Holiday]

I think I showed the messiness of life, like, even before kids. So, like, it was kind of a natural thing just to show every part of it. After kids, too, from viral moments to.

[Sophia]

Real life motherhood, Chrissy opens up about what it means to live life out loud, even when it's hard.

[AJ Holiday]

When Miles was diagnosed with type 1 diabetes, I remember feeling like, okay, I want to get this right for everybody that's depending on us.

[Sophia]

Chrissy talks about turning fear into advocacy, building community, and finding joy in a very full house.

[AJ Holiday]

I had four kids for a reason. I love the chaos of it.

[Sophia]

This live conversation is raw, funny, and full of heart.

[Tam Bam]

Don't miss it.

[Sophia]

Listen to the Bright side on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[AJ Holiday]

Here we go.

[Kal Penn / Johnny Knoxville]

Hey, I'm Kalpen, and on my new podcast, Here We Go Again, we'll take today's trends and headlines and ask, why does history keep repeating itself? You may know me as the second hottest actor from the Harold and Kumar movies, but I'm also an author, a White House staffer, and, as of, like, 15 seconds ago, a podcast host. Along the way, I've made some friends who are experts in science, politics, and pop culture. And each week, one of them will be joining me to answer my burning questions, like, are we heading towards another financial crash? Like, in 08, is non monogamy back in style? And how come there's never a gate ready for your flight when it lands, like, two minutes early? We've got guests like Pete Buttigieg, Stacey Abrams, Lilly Singh, and Bill Nye. When you start weaponizing outer space, things.

[AJ Holiday]

Can potentially go really wrong.

[Kal Penn / Johnny Knoxville]

Look, the world can seem pretty scary right now, because it is. But my goal here is for you to listen and feel a little better about the future. Listen and subscribe to Here We Go Again with Kal Penn on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Podcast Advertiser/Narrator]

The Big Take podcast from Bloomberg News dives deep into one big global business story. Every weekday.

[Kal Penn / Johnny Knoxville]

A shutdown means we don't get the data, but it also means for President Trump that there's no chance of bad news on the labor market.

[Podcast Advertiser/Narrator]

What does a bacon, egg and cheese sandwich reveal about the economy? Our breakfast foods are consistent consumer staples and so they sort of become outsized indicators of inflation. What's behind Elon Musk's trillion dollar payout?

[AJ Holiday]

There's a sort of concerted effort to message that Musk is coming back. He's putting politics aside. He's left the White House.

[Podcast Advertiser/Narrator]

And what can the PCE tell you that the CPI can't?

[AJ Holiday]

CPI tries to measure out of pocket costs that consumers are paying for things, whereas the PCE index that the Fed targets is a little bit broader of a measure.

[Podcast Advertiser/Narrator]

Listen to the big take from Bloomberg News every weekday afternoon on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Sophia]

I live below a cult leader and I fear I've angered her.

[AJ Holiday]

Well, wait a minute, Sophia, how do you know she's a cult leader?

[Sophia]

Well, Dakota, luckily it's I'm not afraid of a scary story, but week on the OK Storytime podcast, so you'll find out soon. This person writes, my neighbor's been blasting music every day and doing dirt rituals and now my ceiling is collapsing. I try to report them, but things keep getting weirder. I think they may be part of a cult.

[AJ Holiday]

Hold up, Sophia. A real life cult? And what is a dirt ritual? No clue.

[Sophia]

But according to this person, contractors are tearing down the patio to find out what's going on with their ceiling. And her her neighbors are not happy.

[AJ Holiday]

Well, she needs to report them asap.

[Sophia]

She did. And now they've been confronting her in really creepy ways all the time.

[AJ Holiday]

So do we find out if this person survives their neighborhood cult or not?

[Sophia]

To hear the explosive finale, listen to the OK Storytime podcast on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.

[AJ Holiday]

Welcome back to the show everybody. Witches and weirdos. Tonight's episode isn't just about ghost stories. It's true ghost stories. The kind of stories that make you question whether some houses remember the shit that be happening them. Like they say it's these serial killers. Yeah, serial killing. You know what's weird about houses is that if you don't live in it, if you don't give it energy, if there's no soul in the house, it's like the house loses a soul. Everything is energy. But you ever looked at a house like my stepdad house right next to my mama, nobody lives in there. It's a storage unit at this point, right? And it's, like, falling apart because there's not no energy in it. There's no soul in it.

[Tam Bam]

I don't read that house out, girl.

[AJ Holiday]

I don't want to talk about it, okay? My parents are some. That's why they think they're gonna die with all the things, girl, you should rent that house.

[Tam Bam]

That's another stream of income. Just.

[AJ Holiday]

Well, you don't. As much as I. As. As financial savvy. Okay. As I am, you think I don't be on their ass about that. Absolutely. They just some. I don't know.

[Tam Bam]

All right?

[AJ Holiday]

That's. They. I ain't harassing a body now. I ain't waiting for nobody to die to acquire anything. I'm building my own. Okay?

[Tam Bam]

All right. We're talking about the houses that hate you. Three real places, three true events, and maybe a few restless souls still waiting for the lights to go out.

[AJ Holiday]

You know, last night, I kept hearing in my house, for real, that happens a lot. And I think that. I don't think I live in an apartment. I don't think it's haunted. I just think that I have the ability to see sometimes and just be going on. Sometimes.

[Tam Bam]

What?

[AJ Holiday]

No, for real, like the other Realm or. Or just, you know, because energy never dies. So this is just around. They just. Exactly. Might just be in another realm, but the veil is getting thin, you know what I'm saying? And sometimes, you know, the day before my friend passed away, I kept seeing something from the corner of my eye before I knew she was gone. Right? So when my. When the person called and told me what happened, I immediately thought about the night before, and I'm like, that bitch probably was in my fucking house. You know what I'm saying? She probably had passed away at home and, like, was in here doing shit because I kept seeing something from the corner of my eye, and I. I don't be seeing shit.

[Tam Bam]

It's.

[AJ Holiday]

It's there. It was there, like.

[Tam Bam]

Well, I always have, like. I don't know if it's. I don't know what it is, but I have, like, flashes of light that go, like, down my eye like this. And I don't know what it is. And I've been going to the eye doctor several times to see, like, what's going on. There's like, your eyes are fine. Your vision is great. I don't know.

[AJ Holiday]

That happens to my mom, though. It's.

[Sophia]

It's.

[AJ Holiday]

What is it called? She Complains about that, like, having, like.

[Tam Bam]

Like spots, like bubbles that just kind of like explode, almost like. Like stars, but then it just floats down. It floats, though. So I don't know.

[AJ Holiday]

Floaters. That's what they call them floaters. That's what they call it, floating.

[Tam Bam]

Where is it? Why they can't see?

[AJ Holiday]

I don't know. Maybe it's. Maybe it's some inflammation in there or something. Maybe.

[Tam Bam]

I don't know, Chad.

[AJ Holiday]

I don't know. Anyway, but, yeah, I be seeing all the time, so, yeah, I definitely believe in. Believe in ghosts and spirits and all that.

[Tam Bam]

Me, too.

[AJ Holiday]

All right, y', all, so grab a drink, light a candle, and lock the door. Cause by the end of the episode, you might just hear something knocking from inside your walls. We ain't talk about your coochie either. All right, so this first story, it is from Iowa, 1912. Okay? It's the. Here we go. Vilsa Villisca Axe murder house. Okay? Iowa, 1912. Okay? It says, girl, why the hell is this a day after my birthday? What is happening? It's June 9, 1912. The Moore family. Joshua, Sarah, and their family. Four kids. Huh? Josiah. Girl, same thing in another country. Joshua, Josiah. Like I can't be scary at the same time?

[Tam Bam]

Hold on. Let me.

[AJ Holiday]

Let me. Y', all.

[Tam Bam]

Let me redo it.

[AJ Holiday]

Okay? The Moore family, Josiah, Sarah, and their four kids walk from church in the sleepy town of Villis. I cannot pronounce this. Villisca, Ohio. I mean, Iowa. They've got two neighbor girls with them, the Stillinger sisters, who'll be spending the night.

[Tam Bam]

They blow out the lamps, they say their prayers, and they settle into bed. The town sleeps, too. No sirens, no cars, just the hum of the night.

[AJ Holiday]

But sometime after midnight, someone walks through their unlocked front door. Maybe barefoot, maybe in socks. They move through the house. Quiet. Patient carrying Josiah's own ax.

[Tam Bam]

By dawn, eight people are dead, y'. All. This is a true story. This is not just a joke. This is. This really happened. Every mirror covered. Every victim's face straight with a bed sheet. And the killer gone. The weapon left behind, washed almost politely.

[AJ Holiday]

Bullies never solved it. And 100 years later, the Villisca house is still there, exactly as it was. People who stay overnight say they hear footsteps pacing above their heads, above their beds. Children giggling in the dark. And the attic door clicking shut when no one's there.

[Tam Bam]

One guest even said the closet door opened at 2:17am the exact time the murders likely happened. When she tried to leave, her flashlight died.

[AJ Holiday]

Would you stay at this house overnight for $10,000? Or would you be out of there the second you heard the floor board move?

[Tam Bam]

See y', all, this script said I'll be gone but a bitch money. Right now I'm staying in that motherfucking $10,000. I'm staying one night. Would you not staying?

[AJ Holiday]

Yeah, I scared of no ghosts. I'm always trying to figure out why ain't nobody attacking the ghosts. Why y' all sitting there letting the ghost attack you?

[Tam Bam]

Like when.

[AJ Holiday]

When the are y' all gonna run up on the ghost?

[Tam Bam]

First of all, I'm more scared of the living in the dead any day, period.

[AJ Holiday]

Okay.

[Tam Bam]

Yeah, yeah. I'm saying let them kids come. Y' all better carry. It's two in the morning. Carry your ass to bed.

[AJ Holiday]

I have done that plenty times in my life. Like, some is going on in the room with me. And I just go to sleep. Like, don't touch me. And we good, right?

[Tam Bam]

I'm covered in the blood of Jesus, so whatever. Do what you will up in here. But run me my 10k because I'm getting it. All right, here's the next story. It's the Myrtles Plantation. And this is Louisiana, 1796.

[AJ Holiday]

Now we travel to the south to St. Francisville, Louisiana, home of the Myrtles Plantation. They say it's one of the most haunted homes homes in America.

[Tam Bam]

Built in 1796, it looks peaceful. Wide porches, moss, draped oaks, sweet tea on the swing. But behind that charm is a story steeped in jealousy, betrayal and poison.

[AJ Holiday]

The legend says a woman named Chloe worked there as a house servant. She was caught eavesdropping on the family secrets and punished. Her ear was sliced off and she began wearing a green turban to hide the scar.

[Tam Bam]

To win her way back into favor, Chloe baked a cake for the family laced with oleander leaves. A small dose to make them sick. Just enough that she could nurse them back to health. Except the plan went wrong and the mother into the two daughters die. I feel like I've heard before.

[AJ Holiday]

Me too. I feel like I got her too. Okay. Is that. The other slaves hanged Chloe from a. What the. Why do other slaves hang her?

[Tam Bam]

These are some good white people.

[AJ Holiday]

The other slaves hanged Chloe from a tree outside the house, afraid they'd be blamed for her crime. And legend says her spirit never left.

[Tam Bam]

Visitors still see her wearing their green turban, roaming the veranda. Sometimes she appears in the photos, half visible, standing behind tourists who didn't notice her there.

[AJ Holiday]

In the mirror. Inside, guests swear there are handprints that Reappear even after it's polished clean. One tour guy says she's been facing. Excuse me. What the fuck? One tour guy says she's been. She's seen faces trapped inside it. Sarah Woodruff and her daughters. Because after their deaths, no one covered the mirror. Hmm.

[Tam Bam]

You know, they say that mirrors can trap souls. I'd be covering every reflective surface in my house tonight. No, I.

[AJ Holiday]

No, I'm not.

[Tam Bam]

I'm be looking in the mirror because I got a date.

[AJ Holiday]

This is interesting. This is the interesting part. They said don't forget your phone screen counts, babe. Right? So here's the thing. Remember when we was doing a good mom's bad choice. Bad choices. Yeah. I'm about to say bad decisions. I mentioned scrys. Right? Like that's what your crystal ball like black your phone when you turn your screen off. This is definitely a SCRY for you to look into the future and shit. Or look into the current, maybe some shit you wasn't even there for if you could tap in that way. You just need a mirror. And this. That's all it is. Your cell phone screen is a mirror. So just think of black crystal ball is the same shit. And you know, the phone's watching us.

[Tam Bam]

What. What is. What you mean is watching us.

[AJ Holiday]

This is. This is how we are all tethered. Like they got us up with these cell phones. Even your TV. Your TV's turned off. You know how people be hacking into the TVs and. And watching you through the camera on the TV? Same. Your microwave.

[Tam Bam]

I'm sl.

[AJ Holiday]

You know, you be watching your food in the microwave.

[Tam Bam]

Dancing.

[AJ Holiday]

Microwave. Hate to see me coming. Now, I don't use no damn microwave, but.

[Tam Bam]

Yeah.

[AJ Holiday]

Are you.

[Tam Bam]

That's a good tip. Oleander leaves if you want to. You know, somebody need to go up out of here.

[AJ Holiday]

No, girl. Ain't no good tip.

[Tam Bam]

No.

[AJ Holiday]

Are you okay? Now y' all be talking about me now you try to. Don't remind how to poison people.

[Tam Bam]

Because.

[AJ Holiday]

You might mess around and get them too much. And then now you're gonna get hung from a tree by your brethren, right?

[Tam Bam]

Damn. I want to know what was the family secret that she heard me too. Families be having secrets, child.

[AJ Holiday]

I mean, I don't know.

[Tam Bam]

Probably.

[AJ Holiday]

Probably the daddy had a baby with a slave, right? Probably some like that she might have been smashing. Damn, daddy.

[Tam Bam]

This is a real place y' all can go to if y' all into that kind of thing. The Myrtles Plantation in Louisiana.

[AJ Holiday]

I've never done a live recording before. Podcast. I've just never done it this week.

[Sophia]

On the bright side, Chrissy Teigen like you've never heard of before.

[AJ Holiday]

I think I showed the messiness of life, like, even before kids. So, like it was kind of a natural thing just to show every part of it. After kids too, from viral moments to.

[Sophia]

Real life motherhood, Chrissy opens up about what it means to live life out loud, even when it's hard.

[AJ Holiday]

When Miles was diagnosed with type 1 diabetes, I remember feeling like, okay, I want to get this right for everybody that's depending on us.

[Sophia]

Chrissy talks about turning fear into advocacy, building community, and finding joy in a very full house.

[AJ Holiday]

I had four kids for a reason. I love the chaos of it.

[Sophia]

This live conversation is raw, funny, and full of heart.

[AJ Holiday]

Don't miss it.

[Sophia]

Listen to the bright side on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.

[AJ Holiday]

Here we go.

[Kal Penn / Johnny Knoxville]

Hey, I'm Kalpen, and on my new podcast, Here We Go Again, we'll take today's trends and headlines and ask, why does history keep repeating itself? You may know me as the second hottest actor from the Harold and Kumar movies, but I'm also an author, a White House staffer, and as of like 15 seconds ago, a podcast host. Along the way, I've made some friends who are experts in science, politics, and pop culture. And each week one of them will be joining me to answer my burning questions, like, are we heading towards another financial crash? Like in 08, is non monogamy back in style? And how come there's never a gate ready for your flight when it lands, like two minutes early? We've got guests like Pete Buttigieg, Stacey Abrams, Lilly Singh, and Bill Nye.

[AJ Holiday]

When you start weaponizing outer space, things.

[Kal Penn / Johnny Knoxville]

Can potentially go really wrong. Look, the world can seem pretty scary right now because it is. But my goal here is for you to listen and feel a little better about the future. Listen and subscribe to Here We Go Again with Kal Penn on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Podcast Advertiser/Narrator]

The Big Take podcast from Bloomberg News dives deep into one big global business story every weekday.

[Kal Penn / Johnny Knoxville]

A shutdown means that we don't get the data, but it also means for President Trump that there's no chance of bad news on the labor market.

[Podcast Advertiser/Narrator]

What does a bacon, egg and cheese sandwich reveal about the economy? Our breakfast foods are consistent consumer staples, and so they sort of become outsized indicators of inflation. What's behind Elon Musk's trillion dollar payout?

[AJ Holiday]

There's a sort of concerted effort to message that Musk is coming back. He's putting politics aside. He's left the White House.

[Podcast Advertiser/Narrator]

And what can the PCE take tell you that the CPI can't?

[AJ Holiday]

CPI tries to measure out of pocket costs that consumers are paying for things, whereas the PCE index that the Fed targets is a little bit broader of a measure.

[Podcast Advertiser/Narrator]

Listen to the big take from Bloomberg News every weekday afternoon on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[AJ Holiday]

I live below.

[Sophia]

A cult leader and I fear I've angered her.

[AJ Holiday]

Well, wait a minute, Sophia. How do you know she's a cult leader?

[Sophia]

Well, Dakota, luckily it's I'm not afraid of a scary story week on the OK Storytime podcast, so you'll find out soon. This person writes, my neighbor's been blasting music every day and doing dirt rituals and now my ceiling is collapsing. I try to report them, but things keep getting weirder. I think they may be part of a cult.

[AJ Holiday]

Hold up, Sophia. A real life cult. And what is a dirt ritual? No clue.

[Sophia]

But according to this person, contractors are taking tearing down the patio to find out what's going on with her ceiling and her neighbors are not happy.

[AJ Holiday]

Well, she needs to report them asap.

[Sophia]

She did, and now they've been confronting her in really creepy ways all the time.

[AJ Holiday]

So do we find out if this person survives their neighborhood cult or not?

[Sophia]

To hear the explosive finale, listen to the OK Storytime podcast on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Tam Bam]

All right. Our last story takes us to Atchison, Kansas, where a sweet looking house on a quiet street hides a very violent energy. They call it the Sally House.

[AJ Holiday]

According to legend, a doctor once lived there. A frantic mother brought in her daughter Sally, complaining of stomach pain. Before the anesthesia took effect, the doctor began operating. Wait, what stomach pain? He automatically gonna get operating on? Okay. And Sally screamed until her heart gave out.

[Tam Bam]

Since then, people say she's been stuck in that house, angry, scared and confused.

[AJ Holiday]

In the 1990s, a young couple moved in. The husband started waking up with scratches, deep, bloody welts, welts across his chest and back. Objects flew off the counters. Lights flickered. Their dog refused to go upstairs.

[Tam Bam]

Investigators later recorded male voices saying get out. And every time a man entered the nursery, the temperature dropped and the toys would move by themselves.

[AJ Holiday]

It's like she was protecting her space or warning them to stop hurting her all over again.

[Tam Bam]

You can still tour the house today, but most people don't last long There's a park upstairs. Cold, heavy air. And they say if you stand there too long, Sally lets you know you've overstayed your welcome.

[AJ Holiday]

Would you go in that nursery alone? With the lights off?

[Tam Bam]

I don't see no point. Ain't no money attached to this conversation. $10,000 are going up in there. They about to cut off everybody food stamps. I'm taking that $10,000.

[AJ Holiday]

So, you know, remember when was that?

[Tam Bam]

Last year?

[AJ Holiday]

Yeah. No, this was actually. Yeah, last year. Last year at the. Oh God. What is the kids Foundation. This is terrible. What's the foundation in. In Memphis?

[Tam Bam]

Oh, the hospital.

[AJ Holiday]

St. Jude.

[Tam Bam]

Jesus Christ.

[AJ Holiday]

Yeah, St. Jude Hospital. So annually they have an event for creators, right? Podcasters, radio personalities, all that stuff. Tammy and I went a couple times and last year my room was six, six, six. And I couldn't. I almost went downstairs and I asked the girl why the hell she put me in that room. And mind you, I stayed at the end. My room was at the end, very end of a hallway, right? So it's like the last room a little bigger. The room was very end of the hallway. So all the other rooms on the sides, my room.

[Tam Bam]

And this is an old ass hotel. The Peabody. Like historic the Peabody.

[AJ Holiday]

And you know, while I was there, I'm like, let me look and see. I. Or maybe the first time we went, I was looking up, trying to see if they, they, they got ghost stories in that hotel. Like people have died there. Multiple people have jumped off the roof of that hotel. And if you look out your window, depending on where you're staying at in the hotel, y' all know how like some of these buildings have like these like demon looking little, little goblin ghouls. Yeah, gargoyles on it. Yeah, that building has those at the top of the building. So from my window I could see these little gargoyles all night long noise in this room. And it wasn't like. Because it's an old hotel. So you know, older buildings, they have more insulation. I feel like, like you really can't hear through the walls. How you. These newer buildings? Because it's like usually it's like concrete in between the walls or bricks or whatever. Man, this noise all night in this room. Ain't nobody touching me. Ain't nobody took the. I'm always scared somebody gonna take the covers off slow. You're gonna be eating ghosts.

[Tam Bam]

You gonna be impressy.

[AJ Holiday]

Take my covers off. Clothes slow. I'm opening my legs.

[Tam Bam]

You gonna be. What's up? It's crazy.

[AJ Holiday]

Ghost Busters.

[Tam Bam]

Hotel got a 666.

[AJ Holiday]

I mean, most of us don't have.

[Tam Bam]

A 13th floor and they don't have a 666. They just.

[AJ Holiday]

That hotel got both. Yeah, that hotel got both, Yep. She put me in 666. I mean, I wasn't. I mean, because I have a different understanding of all that shit. Like, people say 666 is the market of beast. It's literally like the mark of man. Six neutrons, six electrons, six protons. That makes human. So that's the 666. And we are beasts, essentially. What the separate us from animals, laws and religion. That's it, really. My cat, pretty smart. She just can't talk to me about it. But animals, smart as hell, man. These.

[Tam Bam]

Animals. Your cat can't. Your cat can't doordash me no food right now.

[AJ Holiday]

Like, drive it to you.

[Tam Bam]

Drive it or order my shit.

[AJ Holiday]

She can run it over there faster than I could, though. Like, humans are so fragile. I said, she could probably run it over there faster than I could. Faster than I could. Humans are fragile as fuck, bitch. We can't fly. Like, we had to create some shit to fly. Like, yeah, we did that, but just naturally. Like, just. We can't, like, live underwater for a long time. I mean, unless you like the mermaids. We whack. Like, animals could do all type of cool. They could run up a tree, which we can't do that.

[Tam Bam]

Fly typically can't live underwater. And the ones that live underwater can't fly. We all got our shortcomings.

[AJ Holiday]

Some of them birds.

[Tam Bam]

There is a.

[AJ Holiday]

There is a fish that can. There are flying fish.

[Tam Bam]

Yeah.

[AJ Holiday]

There are also fish that can climb. So it just depends. Like, I'm about to morph into some. I want to fly. If I could do anything, I want to fly. I want to be able to fly.

[Tam Bam]

Airlines. I want some money. That's what I want.

[AJ Holiday]

Barely. American Airlines be canceling them flights. You barely fly with American Airlines. Barely. But I would say in any. I mean, if it was like a contest or something like that. Ah, I don't know if I' ma sign up to. With spirits now if they come around. You know what I'm saying? Because maybe. I don't know if my energy is. Is inviting it maybe, but, like, to go into a place where a lot of bad things happen, that you don't want anything following you home.

[Tam Bam]

Right.

[AJ Holiday]

You know what I'm saying? Because depending on, like, people. This is what I. I always say about people who, like, are on drugs, you know, Heavily heavy drinkers like you leave your body open and susceptible to outside entities. And there are such things as walk ins. Right. So that's why sometimes, like, I have a person that's close to me, like, I hurt. Like their faces change when they start drinking. They don't look the same, you know what I'm saying? They don't act the same. They be giving like a little mean little mug, you know what I'm saying? Like, who. Who. Who's this right now? Who are you right now? And I mean, you're drinking spirits, literally. We got to pay attention to words. They don't cost that shift that for no reason.

[Tam Bam]

This is.

[AJ Holiday]

Is exactly what it is. I mean, so there you have it. Three real houses with bodies, legends, and energy that refuses to die.

[Tam Bam]

All right, so we always say energy doesn't disappear. It just finds a new room to live in. And that's the truth. Mm.

[AJ Holiday]

Which house creeped you out the most? I mean, the stories are pretty short.

[Tam Bam]

Yeah. It wasn't really in depth like I thought it would be, but I think if I. Which house would creep me out if I had to visit any of these would probably be the one with them kids in it laughing and listen with the mirrors when I stay at my guy kids house. Like I've stayed there while they were out of town before. And a fire truck when I just started making noise by itself in the middle of the night. Baby, when I tell you that scared me out of me, like, because there's nobody here and a child's toy just started going off. Anything with dead kids, little children. Yeah. No out of here. I don't want no part of that.

[AJ Holiday]

Because we know they got unfinished business. They didn't even get to live for real.

[Tam Bam]

I didn't even get to grow up. Yes, I know. They Big Mac and probably strong as hell. You know, kids be strong.

[AJ Holiday]

You know, most kids are not dying from diseases, right. If a child dies, usually somebody did something to them.

[Tam Bam]

It's tragic. So yeah.

[AJ Holiday]

Yeah. So they're dying in a real tragic way. And soul is just restless at that point. Have you any. Have. Have you ever had any real life experiences?

[Tam Bam]

I have. And nobody can tell me I'm tripping. Not a soul can tell me I'm tripping. I was in. I told this story before, but I'll tell it again. I was just moved back from Europe and I had been gone a couple of years by that point. And I thought I had to get my license again to practice cosmetology. So I thought I Had to take the state board again. It turns out I just had to pay some money. But I went to one of my old cosmetology teachers to walk me through the exam again, and she's like, well, you can just come to my house as a white lady. She did our state board practice, and I went to her house, and I told her I had just previously, that same year, been diagnosed with ms, which I don't even think I got, but okay. And she was like. When I told her, she was just very, like. She was like, my son died last year from Ms. I was like, oh, I'm so sorry. And she wanted to, like. She said, I research, research so much to try to save him and try to give him the tools to be healthy, but he just didn't survive. And she's like, I have this book of all the things you need to eat and all the things you need to do. She's like, but I can't give it to you. I need it. But I'll photocopy some of the pages for you. No. She said, take a pictures of some of these pages, like, with this information. No. First it was the photocopier. She's like, I'm a printer, y'. All. I swear she printed the page. It was black. All you could see was the white bind of the page. It was completely black. The page was black. She tried to print something else. It'll come out. But any of the Ms. Information. The page was completely black. I don't know why. So then I was like, well, let me just take a picture with my phone, y'. All. Why? The only thing I could see in that picture was the bind of the book with my cam, my damn phone. I was like, this here. And he do not want me to have this information for whatever reason.

[AJ Holiday]

What the hell?

[Tam Bam]

So cold. It got so cold in there, baby. I was like, I know. I feel like I'm ready for the test. I got the up out of that lady house so fast because what if he's racist or so why he don't want me to have this information? And she was like, the sun races.

[AJ Holiday]

With the lady, not perhaps.

[Tam Bam]

You don't think it's white people with sons. That's right.

[AJ Holiday]

I think the mama made him that.

[Tam Bam]

Way usually, but she was like, I think he just wants me to give you the book. I think he's here, and I just think he wants me to give you the book. You ain't got to give me. I'm getting the up out of here. And I got up out the house.

[AJ Holiday]

He can have that book.

[Tam Bam]

Yeah, you can have all that information in all that book. I'll Google it hoe I'm getting up out of here. And that was, like, the scariest because I just. I felt his presence there. I felt it. It was freezing cold in there. She seemed, like, so full of sorrow. And then when I shared, because she said she had just lost him a few months back. The year before this was. I probably came in, like, February. So that last year. And now I. All right. I thought something was wrong with the copier. It was weird that you could see the actual inside of the book, though. It wasn't like the copier wasn't working. It's just like, the information. But when I try to take a picture with my phone and, like. And then I wanted to take a picture of something else, and the picture came out fine. But every time, it's like, he. I ain't got time. Let me get the up out of here. What about you?

[AJ Holiday]

What's. What's those, girl, I don't have plenty low. It's just like. I remember I was at my cousin's house. This is when I was a little bit younger. Like, imagine you walking down the hallway and you hear somebody clearly in the kitchen cooking and doing all the things, Knocking dishes around, all that. I don't know if they had rats, maybe. I don't know what the was happening. But you go in the kitchen, like, you're the only person up. You go in there, and there's nobody in the kitchen. It would be shit like that that has been happening to me my whole life at my mom's house. My mom's house has a lot of going on in there. And even though, like, she's been living there as old as I am, like, they moved in that house the month before I was born, right? So she's been there for a while. But the park that's in the neighborhood, you've been at mama's house. So there's a park at the end of the street. That park used to be a graveyard, right? So it's some shit going on in the soil, in the land that this neighborhood is now on top of. And that's like. That's a lot of. A lot of people. It may not even be something that's in the house. It's literally in the land. So these entities come into the house. But, you know, it's. This is why it's so important to watch your energy. Like, not just alcohol and drugs, but when you, like, Mad and upset. Like, evil feeds off of that, too, right? So my mama be mad. You hear me? She always be mad. If there's a heaven, she going. But my mama be mad and mean sometimes. Okay? She just say, like, low. But literally, when I was staying at my mom's house, there was like a. It wasn't a person. It literally. Have you. Oh, have you gotten to the part in Stranger Things yet where I was telling you about Russia? Have you gotten there yet? The blob of black, which is essentially like. That is the abyss, right? That is the black. Black hole, basically. No, it's just like, that's. That is the abyss. That is the chaos energy that they have bottled up in a laboratory.

[Tam Bam]

No, I don't.

[AJ Holiday]

But imagine that. That. Imagine that above your head in the bed. Why are you sleeping? That happened to me. Like, I just looked up, like, what the. And I just put the COVID over my head. My niece. A couple months later, my niece was sitting there. My mom thought that we had orchestrated to tell this story in front of her. I don't know why we would. But she's saying. My niece, she was saying. Yeah. When me and my mama used to stay here, and I was like. In elementary, it was like this black. I was like a gab. Literally finishing each other's sentences about what we saw in the house. And my mama definitely got, like, hags and shit. They will ride you, okay? You can get you some pussy or some dick. Like, you def.

[Tam Bam]

They.

[AJ Holiday]

They definitely be in there pulling sheets, laying behind you, cuddling, all type of shit, for sure. I remember my mom said she thought it was one of us that got into bed because literally some. Something got into bed and wrapped their arms around her. But then she wanted to get up, and it wouldn't let her. But the whole time, she thought it was one of us laying in bed with her. And this is a house. Like, nobody died in there. You know what I'm saying? And she's been living there for 40 years. So it's just these little. Sometimes we be inviting these things. That's why you shouldn't sleep with your windows open all the time. You use Sage Palo Santo. Make sure you burning some of that. And keep your energy clean. And stop being mean. That's another way.

[Tam Bam]

Now, let me tell y'.

[AJ Holiday]

All, this be really nice.

[Tam Bam]

I got one story. I was about, like, 13 years old, and I was babysitting my old neighbor from my mom's neighborhood. She bought a new house, and she needed someone to watch her kid while she went and she got a new overnight job and she's like, he would be sleep. He'd be in the bed by the time you get here. Additionally, you know someone here with them, so just spend the night, baby. I did that job one night because it sound like somebody was walking in the attic. Just walking across the floor on one side and then Here again about 15, 20 minutes later you hear footsteps to the other side.

[AJ Holiday]

Like they pacing.

[Tam Bam]

Hmm.

[AJ Holiday]

Like they pacing.

[Tam Bam]

Yeah, they're pacing the flow.

[AJ Holiday]

And it might have been a squirrel.

[Tam Bam]

Yeah, that's. That's what I was about to say. A squirrel. If it was a squirrel and it had been about a 210 pound squirrel on that, either way it's a problem because that's how strong the footsteps were. They were big, you know, it wasn't like something small. It sounded like something big was up there. A human.

[AJ Holiday]

Did you tell her?

[Tam Bam]

Baby, I got. No, I ain't tell her. When she. I stayed up all night. I did not sleep and I. And at 7 o' clock when she got in there, she took me home and I. I refused to come back. But let me tell you why. I shouldn't have been watching. I did not go check on that baby boy, not one time in that house. I did not check on him at all. I was so that might have been.

[AJ Holiday]

His ass in the attic.

[Tam Bam]

You don't even know how he was too little to pull that string and get his ass up there. How would he have gotten up there?

[AJ Holiday]

No, I don't know. Maybe he would have like.

[Tam Bam]

Well, if it was him, then he enjoy his night all night long pacing back and forth in a dark ass attic in the winter time, child. And. And she just moved in the house. So maybe it was some squatters living up there.

[AJ Holiday]

That happens too now. Because there are plenty stories out there where people are actually living in somebody else's home.

[Tam Bam]

Yep. And it was cold outside. Maybe they went up there and they were just staying up there. They thought she was gone. I don't know. But either way, I ain't never come back to that place.

[AJ Holiday]

I don't know. I ain't that scared. I feel like we. Like there's a thin line between living and dead. It's a very thin line. There's a lot of people that are alive who are not living anyway. And there's a lot of people who.

[Tam Bam]

Are dead that won't die.

[AJ Holiday]

And it's people who like waiting to get the up out of here. Also, I realize how depressed a lot of people are. A post on INSTAGRAM one day, and people's like, man, for real, I'm ready to go. Like, the. The question was, like, if a catastrophe, like, something real serious happens, like a zombie apocalypse or, like, I don't know, like, some real live devastation. Are millennials, like, fighting for their life or not? Was like, man, I'm already tired, y'. All Tell me. Tell me what happened later. Like, they're not staying around for it. I'm a fighter. I never. You don't really have to kill me. You, I never laying down, ever.

[Tam Bam]

Oh, I don't know.

[AJ Holiday]

You ready to go?

[Tam Bam]

I ain't ready to go, but I ain't trying to be out here with no zombies. It.

[AJ Holiday]

Oh, you said you was gonna do some coke. You said she was gonna do all this.

[Tam Bam]

Yeah.

[AJ Holiday]

Whoa.

[Tam Bam]

That's how I'm going up out of here. Let's go.

[AJ Holiday]

Give me something. Give me some fenty. Hell, no. Damn, man.

[Tam Bam]

But I'm definitely gonna try it.

[AJ Holiday]

I might try. What's that?

[Tam Bam]

What's that? That.

[AJ Holiday]

The people, like, the military people was up on spice. No, not spice. Like, back in the day, like, they were quaaludes, and. Damn, it's like a psychedelic already. Shut up. Yeah, like acid. I would try acid. Yeah, I would try acid if.

[Tam Bam]

Yeah, I don't know why it's called you drop acid.

[AJ Holiday]

Yeah, because it's like a little sheet people just put on their tongue, like, you know, those little mints. Yeah, I would definitely do acid. Yeah, I would do acid.

[Tam Bam]

You know, you're not too far off from where I'm at.

[AJ Holiday]

Girls that happened on the Walking Dead, they took some acid and, like, the zombies started coming. They didn't know if it was real or fake. I don't want that to happen now. But, no, Hell no. I. I need to be. I need to be coherent. I need to know what the Is going on at all times.

[Tam Bam]

Well, cocaine, so, yeah, that's what I'm going with.

[AJ Holiday]

Be woke. All right, y', all, we want to hear y' all go stories for Halloween. Okay? I want to know what's some creepy y' all experience. You know, I'm from Charleston. This is. It's a lot of ghost going on around here. New Orleans. One of the stories from New Orleans, we want to hear ghost stories. Let us know. All right. If y' all enjoyed our ghost stories, y' all tune in every Thursday on the iHeartRadio app or wherever the you get your podcast at the show. Co Ghost AJ Holiday on the ones and twos. Kick it, Tam.

[Tam Bam]

All right. Y'. All. It's official Tam bam on Instagram. You follow me there? Follow We Talk Back podcast as well. I love you so much. I appreciate y' all for tuning in every week and sticking with us. Y' all are homegirls and homeboys and everything in between. Honestly, we love y'. All. Remember, speak down.

[AJ Holiday]

And never hold your. Don't. Don't hold that house. Get the fuck up out of there.

[Tam Bam]

Yeah, get up out of there. If it's. If it's issues, get up.

[AJ Holiday]

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[Tam Bam]

I'm not that gibberish.

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[Tam Bam]

So we're sitting like, oh God, what do we do? What do we do?

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[AJ Holiday]

Wait a minute, Sophia, how do you know she's a cult leader?

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[AJ Holiday]

Hold up A real life cult. And what is a dirt ritual?

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[Tam Bam]

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