Mile A Minute!

Summary

We Talk Back — "Mile A Minute!"

Podcast: We Talk Back
Hosts: TamBam & AJ Holiday
Episode Date: January 22, 2026
Network: The Black Effect and iHeartPodcasts

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Overview

In the lively season five finale of "We Talk Back," hosts TamBam and AJ Holiday dive into candid, hilarious, and sometimes vulnerable conversations about personal quirks, dating standards, relationship drama (with a sharp focus on the Kevin Gates/Drika saga), social media trends, and the daily realities of Black womanhood. The episode delivers their trademark unfiltered repartee, comedic timing, and genuine connection, inviting listeners to embrace honesty, self-compassion, and a little bit of messiness.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Catching Up & Winter Blues

• Both hosts lament the cold, hibernation vibes of January and the lack of weekend excitement.
• They riff on body quirks in cold weather: AJ’s purple feet, TamBam’s numb nipples, and the varying sensitivity of body parts.
  Quote:
  • “My nipples turn purple?”
    — TamBam (04:16)
  • “I can barely feel my nipples...You could pinch these off. I’m not gonna flinch.”
    — TamBam (05:08)

2. Weight Loss Struggles, Peptides, and Wellness Culture

• TamBam describes a carb-free diet with little progress: “It’s been 20 days. I had no bread, I had no rice, no sugar … The scale is just not moving.” (06:27)
• AJ mentions peptides (but not Ozempic) for weight loss and wellness, referencing Kevin Hart’s superfood mix.
• Frustrations with protein sources, boredom with salmon, and the desire for “aliens to bring a new meat.”
• Hilarious sidebar about conspiracy theories of human flesh in fast food.
  Quote:
  • “I want the aliens to bring a new meat down...”
    — TamBam (09:20)

3. Carnivore vs. Vegetarian – Personal Food Journeys

• AJ hasn’t eaten steak since 2015 (“That’s a long ass time…” 08:29), and poultry since 2016.
• TamBam jokes about being a carnivore, contrasting their dietary preferences.

4. Trendy Skits & Black Twitter Debates: The Drewski Church Skit

• Conversation about the viral Drewski “mega church pastor” skit. Public divided—“he’s mocking God” vs. “he’s mocking man.”
• TamBam and AJ criticize performative outrage and hypocrisy in online religious debates.
  Quote:
  • “Look at all the perfect saints casting stones that they ain’t got no business casting.”
    — TamBam (12:24)
  • “Prosperity comes from God. I don’t got to go through you to get to God.”
    — AJ (14:38)

5. The Return of 2016: Social Media Nostalgia & Viral Challenges

• Explores the trend of sharing throwback 2016 photos, filters, and challenges and speculates on who starts these trends—light conspiracy talk about social engineering.
  Quote:
  • “Are the powers that be just trying to get some images of us now and then…?”
    — AJ (17:22)

6. Kevin Gates vs. Drika: Relationship Drama Breakdown

• AJ summarizes Kevin Gates’ recent public tirade against Drika, contrasting his claims with Drika’s dignified silence.
• Discussion on spiritual energy, emotional vampirism, and the dangers of publicizing private disputes.
  Quote:
  • “She is why you are who you are right now, and now you’re trying to tear her down. That’s the mother of your kids. I don’t like it.”
    — AJ (21:21)

7. Season 5 Finale: Radical Admissions & Vulnerability Challenge

• The hosts play a game admitting embarrassing habits, secret standards, and things they might regret sharing.
• Topics include:
  • Embarrassing body/facial tics (scratching throats, weird sounds)
  • Double standards they don’t fully live up to
  • Dirty closets and messiness behind curated exteriors
  • Lying to themselves about fitness (“I can lose them 15 pounds by next month…” — AJ 34:56)
  • Holding onto relationships for convenience
  • Petty reasons for ending (or avoiding) conversations
  • Dating expectations they know are unreasonable (money up front, demanding personality changes)
    Memorable Exchanges:
  • On personal messiness:
    • “The divine feminine is highly chaotic. It’s straight chaos. On the surface, my shit is together…You open the closet, that is really my life.”
      — AJ (33:43)
  • On gym avoidance:
    • “I’d be lying to myself about the gym too. And then I just like to put it on how nasty the gym is. But really I just haven’t been feeling like going.”
      — TamBam (35:16)

8. Out of Context Rapid-Fire Segment

• Petty reasons for ghosting (the sound of someone’s voice, thick tongues)
• Secret beliefs:
  • TamBam: “I secretly believe that I am a mermaid.” (42:56)
  • AJ: “I secretly believe that the earth is flat.” (44:16)
• Pettiest recent annoyance (AJ: “I don’t like people asking me questions.” TamBam: “Socks sliding down in shoes.”)

9. Standards Not Always Met

• Timeliness, cleaning, and the hypocrisy of being more frustrated with others’ mess than their own.

10. One Last Real Admission

• TamBam: Recalls leaving a date’s house after a bathroom disaster and never returning his calls out of embarrassment (61:39)
• AJ: Admits to very "vanilla" behavior, no wild stories.

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Notable Quotes & Moments (with Timestamps)

• Body Oddities:
  • “You could pinch these off. I’m not going to flinch. Move on.” — TamBam (05:08)
• On Cleanliness:
  • “The divine feminine is highly chaotic. … You open the closet, that is really my life for real.” — AJ (33:43)
• Self-Deception:
  • “I can lose them 15 pounds by next month.” — AJ (34:56)
• On Double Standards:
  • “It’s just the fact of somebody else doing it that bothers the shit out of people.” — AJ (56:44)
• Petty Ghosting:
  • “I just didn’t like the sound of a voice.” — TamBam (41:08)
• Secret Belief:
  • “I secretly believe that I am a mermaid.” — TamBam (42:56)
• Earth Flatness:
  • “When I say flat...it’s not to say, like, it’s flat like a piece of paper. It has texture…it’s just not a ball.” — AJ (44:20)
• Embarrassing Admission:
  • “We went to, like, one of those Asian fusion places, and that…my stomach up so bad…blew that man bathroom up so bad, and then the toilet would not flush. I left. I didn’t even say nothing.” — TamBam (61:39)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Catching up/Body quirks: 03:27–05:21
• Weight loss and health habits: 05:27–09:20
• Viral skits and church debate: 11:15–14:41
• Social media nostalgia: 14:46–17:42
• Kevin Gates & Drika analysis: 18:31–22:28
• Season wrap-up and radical admissions: 23:33–61:55 (throughout, with segment intros)
• Petty annoyances/dating: 47:02–60:56
• Final admissions: 61:31–65:17

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Tone & Style

The hosts are candid, irreverent, and deeply relatable, blending humor with moments of real vulnerability. Their dynamic seesaws from roasting each other and social absurdities to reflecting on personal growth, disappointments, and Black womanhood.

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For Listeners: Why Tune In?

This episode is a masterclass in honesty and comedic self-reflection. If you love hearing Black women keep it real about body image, dating, pop culture, and personal growth—with plenty of laughs and zero pretense—this finale is for you.

“Y’ all remember, speak now and never hold your shame. Just say the thing out loud, right?” — TamBam & AJ Holiday (66:49)

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Transcript

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[Tam Bam]

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[AJ Holiday]

Welcome to We Talk Back podcast, a production of iHeartRadio and the Black Effect Network.

[Tam Bam]

We're just two unapologetically black women with an opinion who talk back.

[AJ Holiday]

What's up, y'?

[Tam Bam]

All?

[AJ Holiday]

It's your girl, A.J. holiday. What's up, Tam Bam y'?

[Tam Bam]

All. It's me, Tam Bam. I love y' all so, so very much. Thank y' all for coming back again this week. I missed you so much. Ow. How was your weekend, girl?

[AJ Holiday]

Uneventful. It's cold as outside. Like this is hibernation season. Oh, okay. I didn't do much this weekend. I tried really hard not to leave the house. It was raining and as a matter of fact, we did have one good day kind of Saturday. And then Sunday it just was downhill. So, yeah, I've been in the house with my feet curled up. My feet turn purple in the winter. Purple?

[Tam Bam]

Yes.

[AJ Holiday]

I don't get it. It's like maybe it's a circulation thing, but my feet are really, really cold in the winter and my nipples.

[Tam Bam]

Your nipples turn purple?

[AJ Holiday]

They don't turn purple. But if I look around and brush against something, even if I brush against it with my own forearm or something, it hurts so bad.

[Tam Bam]

Really?

[AJ Holiday]

Yeah. It might got something to do with my low iron, but these nipples and.

[Tam Bam]

Feet, I can barely feel my nipples. Don't have no feeling in them at all. Like when the sucking my titty, I'll be like, come on. What?

[AJ Holiday]

I love it.

[Tam Bam]

I'll be pushing his head down.

[AJ Holiday]

Cause that's how be when you licking their nipples and they like. You know, some men like it and some men don't. So I guess the ones that don't are Tam Bams, right?

[Tam Bam]

Because I don't feel. Get off.

[AJ Holiday]

That is funny as like.

[Tam Bam]

What?

[AJ Holiday]

What is up with your titties?

[Tam Bam]

I know. They just don't have nerves. Yeah, the nerve sensation in my nipples. I don't feel. You could pinch these off. I'm not going to flinch. Move on.

[AJ Holiday]

That's funny as you stupid. What did I do going on this weekend?

[Tam Bam]

Nothing. Same it was just too cold to do anything I know I've been doing. I haven't had a carbohydrate since the second. And the scale is just not moving. I'm about to say it and just eat what I want and just go get lipo like the rest of these. Because I'm just. The scale has not moved. It went down two pounds and then went right back up.

[AJ Holiday]

I've been looking into those peptides. Not the Ozempic. They got like other out here to try to regulate your system. Right. So that everything, like all your vitamins and all that is good that promotes, you know, weight loss.

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I don't know.

[AJ Holiday]

They got peptides for, like, your skin. There's a million different peptides. Not really a million, but there's a lot of different peptides for different things.

[Tam Bam]

I feel like Kevin Hart just came out with some shit that's supposed to be like every. The superfood of superfoods. Like some type of peptide powder. Yeah. That has just like everything in it that you could need as a human being.

[AJ Holiday]

Yeah, I need that.

[Tam Bam]

I need that too. But I'm just pissed off because this is like, it's been 20 days. I had no bread, I had no rice.

[AJ Holiday]

No sugar either.

[Tam Bam]

I had no sugar.

[AJ Holiday]

Have you been working out, though?

[Tam Bam]

I've been walking. I ain't been like. And I did a little bit of weight lifting, but I've been kind of waiting to go into the gym because it'd just be nasty in January. But I've been walking like four miles. Like, the first week I did 20 miles. The next week I did like maybe 17. Like, I've been walking and I'm. The scale is just not moving. And that pissed me off so bad today. It pissed me off so bad when I got on that scale today. I almost went and got me a cheeseburger and it was just like it.

[AJ Holiday]

Why was I in the grocery store yesterday? And just something came over me and I was like, I'm gonna eat a steak.

[Tam Bam]

Welcome. Really?

[AJ Holiday]

No, I ain't coming back. I really feel like it's these fucking iron pills. Like, is it. You know, they red? Is it blood? Are y' all making me crave blood? Want a juicy fucking little medium well done burger? A medium well steak? Like, you might.

[Tam Bam]

But you know what, your body might want some meat. And not to me, a different type of meat than what you've been getting.

[AJ Holiday]

Some actual meat. I don't know, man. I just never felt good eating meat anyway, you know what I'm saying? So I don't know. It's something that's with my psyche that's making me want like a ribeye, a good ribeye. Is it the cracker gene tapping in? I don't know, is it like from taking those pills, did they add like some type of cracker gene?

[Tam Bam]

I don't even know what that means.

[AJ Holiday]

You know what a cracker gene is? You got them. You got a cracker jeans. That's why you ain't gonna never not eat no meat. Vampire.

[Tam Bam]

I love me. I love it. Yeah.

[AJ Holiday]

I don't know how my stomach or how my body would handle that. Y', all, it is 2026. I have not had steak since like 2015. Okay.

[Tam Bam]

Damn.

[AJ Holiday]

Mighty. It might have even been longer than that, now that I think about it. I haven't had poultry since like 2016. And prior to that I was already not eating beef and pork. So I had a long ass time.

[Tam Bam]

I had all of that within the last 42, 48 hours. Yeah.

[AJ Holiday]

And I'll be trying to figure out like, why can I not. Like I should be small as hell, right?

[Tam Bam]

No, no, because you eat. Because a lot of people who don't eat meat eat high carbohydrates and that's what happens. They eat a lot of carbs and. And that's why they don't lose a lot of weight. Yeah.

[AJ Holiday]

And I don't get enough protein in my diet whatsoever. Like, and you can't supplement enough, right? That's not like that. I need protein. Like, I'm sick of salmon. The salmon be tasting weird nowadays. It doesn't taste good. I just. I'm tired of cooking. I'm tired of eating. I'm tired of thinking about.

[Tam Bam]

I want the aliens to bring a new meat down this. I'm so sick of eating the same. I wish they just brought like, you know, some hybrid.

[AJ Holiday]

Gonna be human. Okay. You know, have you been seeing those articles or like headlines that saying, like they found traces of human flesh like in McDonald's burgers and like that. Have you.

[Tam Bam]

I've been seeing people talk about that. Like when they say millions of people serve, they don't mean like that they're serving us food, they're serving people.

[AJ Holiday]

So when I think about these, these iron pills, right? Because a lot of times like they are based basting like our genetic makeup to somebody else's. Like just because they need this certain amount of vitamin D, that doesn't. That doesn't necessarily mean I need it. Right? So what if they have been putting things in the Food to make it more palatable for another group of people. And that's why black people in particular are super sick from eating this food. Because it's really not for us to be eaten. Right? So we don't eat humans. We not carnivores, but there are carnivores amongst us. Okay, y' all can go back to school.

[Tam Bam]

I'm very much a carnivore.

[AJ Holiday]

When I say carnivore, I'm more so talking about, like, me eating you like humans.

[Tam Bam]

Look at me.

[AJ Holiday]

Look at this. I. I knew it. Nasty ass. So they around. They be putting some extra in the food to taste good to that. Those people, right? They put this extra in the food, and now it's making us sick.

[Tam Bam]

Yeah.

[AJ Holiday]

Why. Why do I want a burger? Why do I want a steak? I don't know.

[Tam Bam]

You might need to just try, like, a little piece and just see if it, like, gives you energy or something like that. I love me a ribeye.

[AJ Holiday]

It might make me bite people.

[Tam Bam]

You never know what's gonna happen. Let's get in the sand.

[AJ Holiday]

What we got going on? So I know.

[Tam Bam]

I love.

[AJ Holiday]

Listen, I feel like Drew speaking is the funniest on the Internet. Okay.

[Tam Bam]

I love me some juice Ski.

[AJ Holiday]

Like, I just wish. I don't know. I wish I was like 10 years younger, because I'll just be. If I didn't, like, if I had the current mind I have now to really not give a even more. Like, I would be on the Internet like, Drew Ski. Now. I just don't feel like that it's not too late. But he literally wake up and make these, like, you just gotta unlimited budget at this point. His views be in the millions. His comments be in half a millions. You see what I'm saying? Like, this is. It's amazing.

[Tam Bam]

But.

[AJ Holiday]

So he recently did this mega church skit where he was basically mimicking how to the mega church pastors be. And the Internet is divided. And, you know, it's the black. Black people, okay? We got the heathens and the heathens that go to church arguing. So people are like, oh, he's mocking God. No, he's mocking man, right?

[Tam Bam]

I don't feel like he's mocking God whatsoever. I don't have no judgment or jury for nobody. Under no circumstances do I. Yeah, I was in the comments. Like, look at all the perfect saints in the comments. Look at all the perfect saints casting stones that they ain't got no business casting.

[AJ Holiday]

So, you know, the people. The people who don't subscribe, you know, to the Church who may not subscribe fully to the Bible and stuff like that, who haven't accepted Jesus Christ in their life. Y' all niggas have. So I'm a gentile. You gonna get judged before me because you know better. So how you in the comments talking crazy? Like, at the same rate that you are judging somebody else or. Yeah, you're judging while talking about somebody judging. Basically, yeah.

[Tam Bam]

That's the part. That's the irony of it all. That's why I'm like, just. Everybody just be quiet. Including your own house. That's what you need to do. Even. Even the pastor, if there is, like, he got to clean his house the same way you got to clean yours. So that's what you need to focus on your.

[AJ Holiday]

The funniest part is when the dude pulled up to the. Pulled up to his Bentley or whatever at the end. At the end of the ski.

[Tam Bam]

Did you give time? Get away from my car.

[AJ Holiday]

Was so funny because those people do go home and take their mask off, and that's exactly who they be.

[Tam Bam]

Not always. There are. You know, there are good. There's good and bad in every.

[AJ Holiday]

And we ain't got no megachurch, though. They don't have a mega church. There's a certain level of finessing you gotta do.

[Tam Bam]

I don't want my pastor to be broke, though.

[AJ Holiday]

Me neither. Me neither. If I. If I'm go to the church, he better be rich. And I do like. I do, like, when they teach, they preach prosperity. I like that.

[Tam Bam]

Yeah. Yeah, me too. But, like, flying through the sky like that, I think that is extra. But, hey, make it fun, making people.

[AJ Holiday]

Want to come but don't. Don't teach, preach prosperity and act as if my prosperity only comes via you. That's the problem.

[Tam Bam]

Yes.

[AJ Holiday]

Prosperity comes from God. I don't got to go through you to get to God.

[Tam Bam]

I agree.

[AJ Holiday]

Whatsoever. What else we got going on?

[Tam Bam]

So 2026 is the new 2016. It's trending, so I don't know if you've seen it, but everybody's posting their pictures from 2016. They're posting the old filters with the dogs and the roses and flowers around. Oh, she sucks, y'. All. She just stuck a who. I'm sorry.

[AJ Holiday]

You can't even talk.

[Tam Bam]

I was taking it back, y'. All. AJ Put a banana so far down her throat just now.

[AJ Holiday]

Damn.

[Tam Bam]

Lie half of the banana down her throat while I was trying to turn.

[AJ Holiday]

You ain't catching me doing no tricks for free. None.

[Tam Bam]

Well, anyway, people have been hungry. The dog filters The OIG filters, the mannequin challenge I've been seeing people do again. The water bottle flip era, throwback music and aesthetics. And it's given. Basically, we need fun again or something.

[AJ Holiday]

I had to go back through my Instagram because I'm like, where the y' all got pictures from? From 10 years ago? I'm like, you do have pictures from 2016.

[Tam Bam]

Yeah, my phone. My. My pictures go all the way back to 2014.

[AJ Holiday]

Mine go back to 2020. So I'm thinking maybe. I'm trying to remember when I switched over to iPhone. That wasn't always the iPhone, girly. Okay. I had both. And I really just used. Used to use the Android for my personal phone, but I don't know where the is my 2016 pictures. I don't have a whole lot in your Android. Yeah. You know, I almost went to prison. 2015, 2016 is like a blur, bitch. I was fighting for my life. I don't got no pictures of that was stressed. I do have one picture where I cut all my hair off because my was thinning in the middle.

[Tam Bam]

That was great.

[AJ Holiday]

That was not a good year for me. Yeah. So maybe that's why I don't have a whole bunch of pictures. I want to hear about that one day.

[Tam Bam]

2025 really kicked my ass. That's the year that 2016, when I moved to Charlotte back from Florida, wasn't that bad. 2025. Yeah, that was last year.

[AJ Holiday]

Last year. I thought it was a year before last because when you broke your foot.

[Tam Bam]

I broke it in the end of 2024. It was going.

[AJ Holiday]

I was still booted in 25.

[Tam Bam]

Like, I drugged the foot into the new year with all the.

[AJ Holiday]

Or the. Or the foot drug you.

[Tam Bam]

Right. But anyway.

[AJ Holiday]

But it's so. It's so weird when people start doing these challenges. I'm always like, who started it and what was the purpose of it? Like, are the powers that be just trying to get some images of us now and then, you know what I'm saying? Trying to make sure they know who's who. Like, we don't start these trends and they just take off out of nowhere. Right.

[Tam Bam]

It's probably some stupid. Like, just like that six, seven, six, seven. All the kids going, it's some. There's some of it just don't be having no rhyme or reason.

[AJ Holiday]

No, that 6, 7 is like some demonic.

[Tam Bam]

You think so?

[AJ Holiday]

Yes. I did a whole deep dive rabbit hole. Yes. That six, seven didn't come out of. Out of nowhere. You see what I'm saying? And even the song that these. That the kids were singing at 6, 7. Let me stop saying that. Off of the. The guy who raps the song. I forgot the actual name of the song. Girl, that is listening to that song is crazy. Demonic as hell.

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[AJ Holiday]

So ain't nothing ever happenstance. Not on this planet. Not on this realm. It'd be programming for sure.

[Tam Bam]

Anyway, what else happened?

[AJ Holiday]

Oh, girl. Okay. I feel like everybody on the Internet loves Drika. Drika Gates. I don't know what her. With her draca. Drika. I don't know what her maiden last name is, but Kevin Gates took to the Internet on. I guess that was either Friday or Saturday. And he was talking hella. And I personally have never seen her address him at all.

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All.

[AJ Holiday]

She always looks so poised, grace, graceful, cute, nice. I know. At the live show last year, remember Good Moms had her on one of their segments and they actually asked her about the divorce that hadn't been made public yet. And she basically glazed right over that. Like, I don't know what y' all talk about next. Next question. No comment. So for him to come out and do a video, he's saying how. How their kids have been living with him for the last two years. I doubt it. You stay online with your. With your girl, your new young girl from your new host to.

[Tam Bam]

Well, that's his wife. He's married.

[AJ Holiday]

He calls everybody his wife. See, that's the thing. So what he was saying about Drake is that they. They had an Islamic marriage. It's not under. It's not like legal. You know, no legal United States documents. You know what I'm saying? No legal marriage license is an Islamic marriage. So it's probably. He's making all these women his wives. I mean, the Bible say if you. That's your wife.

[Tam Bam]

But here's the thing. Well, then why. He said she filed for divorce after he stopped giving her money.

[AJ Holiday]

But see, that's what he's saying. He's saying like, you can't file for divorce because we not married. And furthermore, I've been going since 2020. He was like, I was taking care of you while you was with that. And now you just mad because the money stopped. He was saying how her and her family embezzled money from him to start to open up a hemp or not a hemp store, like a thc, like a weed bud store. And said it was only open for a month because the funds were obtained illegally. All type of little things he was saying. But I know for sure, and I've been saying this, that that goddamn Kevin Gates is a warlock. And I believe that Draka is a damn. She the witch. And she was allowing him her energy until she wasn't. The nigga's gaining weight. Like, at one point, he was looking like her to me. He was looking like he was morphing into her in the face. And he looked like how he was looking. I want you to go look at pictures of Kevin Gates before and after. And when he was like, when he got out of prison, remember he kicked the girl in the face? Look at him. That was like 20. Was that not 20?

[Tam Bam]

20.

[AJ Holiday]

20, 21. He started looking like Draker to me. And I just feel like now he got a new host, somebody's energy. He's about to suck because he ain't nothing but a incubus.

[Tam Bam]

Yeah.

[AJ Holiday]

That's all he is. And I mean, she was his manager. She is why you. You are who you are right now, and now you're trying to tear her down. That's the. The mother of your kids. I don't like it. I don't like Kevin Gates.

[Tam Bam]

And that' sucks about these relationships. When they dissolve, it makes you scared to get in one because they're saying it's a thin line between love and hate. It is the truest thing ever. So I just be very cautious about who I let get that close to me because I be scared of some like this happening, you know?

[AJ Holiday]

Yeah. She's not even engaging with him publicly, talking to him.

[Tam Bam]

We would have seen it.

[AJ Holiday]

You know, I follow her, so I. I haven't seen her. I mean, I've watched interviews she's done. I've never seen her say anything disparaging about him. Even when people try to ask, she just kind of skate over it. But here he comes, attacking her publicly, and I really feel like it's because she's get. She's paying that dust right now. He can't take it. Well, get well, Kevin Gates, period.

[Tam Bam]

So what we talking about today is the final episode of season five. We've been doing this five seasons, girl.

[AJ Holiday]

Five crazy years.

[Tam Bam]

Where did the time go?

[AJ Holiday]

I. I don't know. And y' all know how hard it is to talk this much. Like 5 years talk too damn much.

[Tam Bam]

Yeah, we need to change the name of the show to stop talking.

[AJ Holiday]

Shut the up, stfu.

[Tam Bam]

So I wanted to do a thing, an episode about things that we said on the show that we wish we hadn't, but I couldn't think of that. And I knew we couldn't talk for long about that because I feel like we just comfortable with what the we'd be saying on the show, period. So I just found a few things that we probably might regret later to say today.

[AJ Holiday]

Wait, so we gonna talk about the that we shouldn't say, but we gonna say it? Like what?

[Tam Bam]

Yeah, yeah, we gonna say we just gonna admit some shit.

[AJ Holiday]

So we adding some shit to wax? Basically we're adding it and saying it.

[Tam Bam]

On wax and just say it so next season we can regret it.

[AJ Holiday]

All right.

[Tam Bam]

When we get back, we go get into it.

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[Tam Bam]

The first one A habit you have that you would never admit on a first date.

[AJ Holiday]

You know, in one of my last relationships, you know, I'd be scratching my throat a lot.

[Tam Bam]

Oh yeah, I was about to say.

[AJ Holiday]

That same and I remember my ex was like, you gonna do that your whole life? And I said, shut up.

[Tam Bam]

See, I don't feel like. I don't feel like that scratches my throat good that I go that one.

[AJ Holiday]

I do that. I do the finger, I do the tongue. I really like the silent one. Like you use your tongue to scratch the back of your throat. I suck.

[Tam Bam]

Dog.

[AJ Holiday]

Like when the get real bad. Like I gotta get out the bed and get me some Zyrtec right then and there. But my boo gotta understand that yes, I have had this problem my whole entire life. Yeah, I don't. I mean, I don't know. I just got allergies. I'm Urkel, so I'm allergic to all Type of. And I still be eating it, so I may not tell somebody that on the first date. They might hear it, though. I might already do it on the first date, though.

[Tam Bam]

Same say I wouldn't do it on the first date. But I eventually.

[AJ Holiday]

How can you stop it?

[Tam Bam]

I gotta. I excuse myself.

[AJ Holiday]

Oh.

[Tam Bam]

And do it in the bathroom or do it somewhere else or find a reason for that to leave. But I'm just gonna. Yeah, okay. Let me see.

[AJ Holiday]

I'm trying to think what else I would never admit on a first date.

[Tam Bam]

A habit. It's a habit, though. Not a. It just. It has to be a habit.

[AJ Holiday]

I don't.

[Tam Bam]

What is.

[AJ Holiday]

What are some things I got a problem with creating habits. I don't have enough habits, so I don't know. I don't know. And be a different Gemini every day.

[Tam Bam]

All right. Something you just.

[AJ Holiday]

That might be a thing. I might not tell a. I'm a Gemini.

[Tam Bam]

If they listen to this. Oh, they gonna know. All right. Something you judge people for, but also you do.

[AJ Holiday]

I don't know what you think.

[Tam Bam]

I got one watch. I watch baddies and I judge riches that were like, how are you watching that garbage tv? And then I'll be watching it. I love baddies.

[AJ Holiday]

Something I judge other people for and I secretly be doing.

[Tam Bam]

Let me tell you who I like on baddies. Why are you thinking I like. I like. I always wanted to like Lex. I did not like her before, but I like her this season. I like dtb. She not on this season, though. She's so funny. I miss her on the show.

[AJ Holiday]

Is that. Is the Lex girl, the one from South Carolina?

[Tam Bam]

No, that's. That's a different show. She ain't on no more. Okay. No Lexus. I don't know where Lex from, but I do like her now. Scotty, my favorite, she from Charlotte. I. I think she's from Charlotte, but I ain't never seen her around in Charlotte. But then I guess I don't be outside no more either. You thinking of your thing while I'm telling the people? Yeah.

[AJ Holiday]

I can't think of anything I'd be judging people for because I listen. Y' all know I'm highly judgmental. And I'm trying to think, like, I don't really have a thing that I'll be. I practice what I preach, so I don't really. Can you think of something that you judge people that you do and I'd be doing? I don't know.

[Tam Bam]

I can, but I ain't gonna say her on here. What? No.

[AJ Holiday]

This is the episode to say.

[Tam Bam]

I'll tell you after that we finished recording. All right. A routine you'd be embarrassed to explain out loud, Man.

[AJ Holiday]

This is essentially the same thing.

[Tam Bam]

A habit. Yeah, a routine.

[AJ Holiday]

I just said I can't even form habits.

[Tam Bam]

One of mine is like, all right, so I really need to see a chiropractor. And since I broke my foot, I feel like my hips are off. So after I been sitting a long time, my shit start feeling stiff. So I'll be having to, like, drop down and get my eagle on and loosen my hips.

[AJ Holiday]

And you don't want to have to explain to somebody why you twerking in the middle of dinner?

[Tam Bam]

Yeah, like, why is you dropping it low? Why are you down low like that? Because my hips is tight and it hurt. It don't feel good.

[AJ Holiday]

You know, you got to get on the floor and like, you know, do like the froggy and get your legs spread out as far as possible. And I be doing that.

[Tam Bam]

It just don't seem to be helping. Like, I need to go to see somebody. My be sounding like. You know when. Remember how we used to have, like, Trapper Keepers and used to have the metal prongs down the middle and you open it and it click it back together. That's what my hip sound like when it clicks. A trap will keep a closing.

[AJ Holiday]

That's how my sound when I'm riding dick. I be hearing it. I should be clicking and I can feel it like. And I'd be right there in there with the beat. Drop the beat. I don't know if it's my knee on my hip. It's one or the other, but I'd be feeling something, and I know the be hearing it right.

[Tam Bam]

That's how my hip be sounding now.

[AJ Holiday]

I don't know if I had a routine that I'm embarrassed. Best to explain out loud. I don't know. I feel like we be telling all the things. Like, I know even in relationships outside the podcast, like, I. I talk too much. I've been out, over, shared all the. So I'm trying to think of. I don't know. I don't know. I mean, I. I'm embarrassed about my closets. I'll be honest. I'm embarrassed about my closets. I'm embarrassed about my drawers. I've seen a post on Instagram one day was like, you could tell a lot by. By about a woman when you go to their house. Like, either it'll just be like, just super messy. As soon as you walk in or look nice on the surface, but then they got a bunch of in the closet. I'm like, first of all, okay, the divine feminine is highly chaotic. Okay? It's straight chaos. So on the surface, my shit is together, bitch. You open a closet, and that is really my life for real. You open a closet, you open a drawer, you open a cabinet. No, you're not gonna see the labels facing front. It's a mess. The refrigerator a damn mess. And I struggle with this all the time. I literally will clean my closets all the time. And I just have a problem with putting back back.

[Tam Bam]

It's just when I get dressed, like once I get dressed, everything just go everywhere. Sometimes I don't like, you know how some people have like they can get dressed and the room will be clean before they leave. Yeah. I'm not her. I'm not.

[AJ Holiday]

It's like packing clothes and unpacking it, right? So when I got back from Barbados, I unpacked my suitcase. But I didn't put nothing up. And in my mind I did a good deed because the suitcases are empty, right? Because before my would be in the suitcase for a whole month now, at least the suitcase is empty. But all the clothes is. Is falling over out of a bin in my spare room. And I just keep closing the door on it. That's my life. That's my brain right there.

[Tam Bam]

Does it exist?

[AJ Holiday]

Exactly. Now that's. And that's the problem.

[Tam Bam]

All right? A lie you tell yourself regularly.

[AJ Holiday]

Oh, I can lose them £15 by next month. Yeah, but I already started telling myself that about Valentine's Day. If you lose it last mother, you about to lose it by February Valentine. I lie to myself all the time. Every night I go to sleep, I lie about waking up and going to the gym.

[Tam Bam]

Me too. I'd be lying to myself about the gym too. And then I just like to put it on how nasty the gym is. But really I just haven't been feeling like going.

[AJ Holiday]

You just said the gym was nasty. What you meant by that though? Because I know January 1st, the gym be full of a bunch of people.

[Tam Bam]

Who about to be the first couple weeks. It do be a lot like, it'd be very like a lot of you go in the gym bathroom on the first three weeks of the year. It is disgusting the machines. People don't clean their machines. It'd be sweat all over it and it just be gross. And I still probably should go. But I just blame it on them, right?

[AJ Holiday]

I got the whole apartment complex gym, nobody being. They got New equipment. But in my mind, because I can't get to the gym I want to go to, I can't work out. First it was a watch. My fitness watch wasn't working properly. Bought me a new one for Christmas. Like, if I go to the gym and leave my waist trainer, I can't work out. If I go to the gym and leave my headphones, I can't work out.

[Tam Bam]

Oh, I will not work out without headphones. That sucks. It's so boring.

[AJ Holiday]

I want to stop doing this to myself, man. I'm full of.

[Tam Bam]

Yeah, same a situation you stayed in longer than you should have for convenience, all of them.

[AJ Holiday]

What are you talking about? I feel like that is the reason why you end up in situationships, you know, you ain't supposed to be in anyway. Obligation, convenience, you lying to yourself. It might get better. You know what I'm saying?

[Tam Bam]

I remember, and this is so fucked up, because I was ready to break up with my boyfriend when I thought I was about to get this job. This was many years ago. And then when I didn't get the job, I wanted to stay together.

[AJ Holiday]

What job was that and how much was they paying?

[Tam Bam]

He was like, you was ready to. You was ready to be out of here. Now you ain't get that job, and now you're ready to stay. I was like, that's not true. That's not true. It has nothing to do with that. It had everything to do with it. Whole time I was trying to be a flight attendant for Delta.

[AJ Holiday]

Oh.

[Tam Bam]

And I didn't get it because this tattoo on the side of my hand, they saw it.

[AJ Holiday]

Oh, really?

[Tam Bam]

I didn't. Yeah, I meant that I forgot to cover it with makeup.

[AJ Holiday]

I didn't know that they had those type of stipulations.

[Tam Bam]

Yeah, interesting. That me over.

[AJ Holiday]

I'll be looking at people. I thought you was about to say. Because your boonki would be like, going through.

[Tam Bam]

God, don't make no mistakes. I ain't meant to be nobody flight attendant. I would. First of all, my ass would be knocking people over the whole time. Like, the flight attendant's ass is so big.

[AJ Holiday]

I always feel like that when I'm walking down. I just feel like I'm hitting everybody with all my in my ass walking down the aisle.

[Tam Bam]

And then I'm like, too scary to be anybody's flight attendant, so the slightest bit of turbulence, I'll be spazzing on the plane. Huh.

[AJ Holiday]

So you never sit in the exit row, I guess, because you got to help people before, but you ain't about to help nobody. You probably gonna take the door off.

[Tam Bam]

I say, yeah, but we gonna see what happened.

[AJ Holiday]

They're gonna sue your ass if they see you run off the boat. I mean, run off the plane. You had already told them.

[Tam Bam]

Yeah, y' all did not train me for no emergency situation.

[AJ Holiday]

You're supposed to read the pamphlet. You supposed to read the door.

[Tam Bam]

I read that, and that's how I knew how to open it.

[AJ Holiday]

I didn't comprehend they want a verbal yes from you.

[Tam Bam]

Yeah. All right, what's the next one? Something you pretend doesn't bother you while you think about it. I got one. When y' all have them boho braids and y' all stop brushing that, The. The straight. The curly hair in it, and it just be matted in the braids, and y' all don't, like, take time to, like, separate that curly piece from the braid and it just look a mess. I act like it don't bother me, but it drives me so crazy. I just want to, like, run up on a. With a brush and just.

[AJ Holiday]

I don't even know what you're talking about.

[Tam Bam]

Boho braids with the curly pieces. Yeah, and it's just like, people act like they just regular braids and they don't have to do nothing to their curly pieces.

[AJ Holiday]

Oh, they gotta comb it out and put some mousse on it and stuff.

[Tam Bam]

Do something to that. Be walking around with that. Just mad. Mad at this. Hell, look at crazy. That bothers my soul.

[AJ Holiday]

Something you put something. Something you pretend doesn't bother you.

[Tam Bam]

That bothered. Like, it irks me. And if you got them boho's in right now, I want you to stop what you do and get a brush.

[AJ Holiday]

I don't know. I guess I got a lot of personal things that bother me about people. Situations that I just don't be saying about. And I. Look, I still don't want to share it on the podcast because it's, like, about people. It's not necessarily about, like, I don't know, just random people. I don't have a thing about random people. I gotta think about. I actually know that I'd be biting my tongue about, like, why is you still for free? Your lights off. I'm mad about that. If you don't pop that pussy for five niggas, ask each of them for a hundred dollars and stop calling me.

[Tam Bam]

Right. No, I agree here.

[AJ Holiday]

That's the type of shit I'd be mad about.

[Tam Bam]

Okay, that is a good reason to be upset, because why are you mismanaging your vagina like that. Yeah.

[AJ Holiday]

All right, so this next segment, out of context, is the next segment. I once decided not to text back because.

[Tam Bam]

I just didn't like the sound of a voice. You ever had somebody, like, voice just irk your nerves? Like, it just don't sound good.

[AJ Holiday]

I got a friend of mine, he has, like, a real long tongue. Like a list. I don't know how it feels, but he has a very long tongue. And it just. It just sounds slacking.

[Tam Bam]

Slack.

[AJ Holiday]

When he talking. I don't feel like it. I don't feel like talking to you because it just. Now you got a mouthful of stuff. Spit.

[Tam Bam]

Yeah, just thick tongue. Like your tongue thickened your mouth or something.

[AJ Holiday]

I like thick tongues. But his one, I don't know what the hell it's like. And he got, like, a crazy ass. Like, it's a whole lot of going on.

[Tam Bam]

So that's not a reason. It wasn't. I just stopped talking to him because I just couldn't stand the sound of his voice. And I know that sounds so mean, but it's honest, you know, I couldn't stand it.

[AJ Holiday]

No, I've hung up for People on People for Less. Like, I just. I don't know. I've started hanging up on people mid conversation, actually. Like, I don't want to no more.

[Tam Bam]

Click. You'll say something. I listen. My go to is like, this is my mama calling.

[AJ Holiday]

I won't say nothing. I just act like the phone died or I just act like the service disconnected. I don't call back. I don't feel like explaining, you know.

[Tam Bam]

Like I'm victorious for ending a conversation. And just like, I call you back and hang up. Charlemagne the God for that. You just call you that.

[AJ Holiday]

Answer the phone.

[Tam Bam]

No. He'll call you and start a conversation with you about some. And then after however long, he. I guess he's done with the conversation. I gotta go. Click. Oh, it's so. Oh, it pissed me off so bad. Shame.

[AJ Holiday]

I secretly believe that.

[Tam Bam]

That I am a mermaid.

[AJ Holiday]

No, definitely. I mean, why wouldn't we be?

[Tam Bam]

I really believe it, though. Like, people be thinking, like, when I say that, they'd be like, oh, my God, Tammy, here you go with your.

[AJ Holiday]

Do you get your hair wet at the beach?

[Tam Bam]

My hair is braided up under my wig. My wig.

[AJ Holiday]

But do you go under the water? No, you're not a fucking mermaid.

[Tam Bam]

I am a mermaid. I'm a descendant of mermaids, okay? The only reason I don't go under the water is because I can't get my weave with like, this, you know.

[AJ Holiday]

I did all this preparation for Barbados and I barely swam. Like, the. The place we stayed in was, like, on the beach, but it was so many rocks, like, under the water, it was rocky as fuck. Like, it hurts walking on it. And then we. When we did go, like, to the nicer beach with the calm water, I just wanted to lay out there. I really didn't get in the beach, but I be liking a swim. And I'll go far out. You ain't no damn mermaid.

[Tam Bam]

I am a mermaid. See you. Another naysayer. I am. My. My psychic friend told me I was descended, and I believe him. Okay. I'm a siren, as a matter of fact. All right.

[AJ Holiday]

I secretly believe that the Earth is flat.

[Tam Bam]

Flat.

[AJ Holiday]

Y' all probably know that. And when I say flat, okay? Or when people who are flat Earthers. I'm not a flat Earther, or whatever that is. I'm not a anything. But when we say that, it's not to say, like, it's flat like a piece of paper. It has texture because obviously we got mountains and planes and rocks and all this stuff. It's just not a ball, right? I believe the Earth is sphere shape or oval. Like shape. Matter of fact, if y' all go look at the United nations symbol for the United nations, that is how the Earth actually looks. It's not a ball. I'm not driving from South Carolina, and I can keep driving north to Canada, and I could keep driving around Earth and then end up, I don't know, in Mexico somewhere. It's not happening. Okay? The sun and the moon is out at the same time every day. Explain that. And most round Earthers will say that gravity explains the round Earth theory. Gravity itself is still a theory. It hasn't been proven. It's literally a theory. So, yeah, I'm secretly a flat Earther. I don't know if that was really a secret, though.

[Tam Bam]

You know? Do you see that video where that guy was, like, trying to explain to my wife that the Earth is flat? And she's like, it don't matter if the Earth is round and flat. I'm still gonna have to pay ass bills either way.

[AJ Holiday]

The thing is that that's where it starts at though, right? If we question that's a big ass lie. That is a huge lie. You have to think about, why would they tell that lie, right? If it is actually a lie, why would they tell that lie? Why would they lie by ever having been to the moon? We gotta look at those things and understand it's not about, oh, we still gonna have to pay bills. It don't matter. It does matter, because once we start dismantling all the lies, we get to the truth, and you realize we supposed to be living for free. We actually forced them to stop acting like we need to be paying for lights. When lights.

[Tam Bam]

The lights when lights. Electricity is all around us.

[AJ Holiday]

Water is free. You know, all of this is free.

[Tam Bam]

It's free. Animals.

[AJ Holiday]

Just, like, soon as I get out the bed, Dasha gets right in my spot. I could send you a picture where she's, like, literally laying on my pillow. Like, how I would be sleeping in the bed. We should be able to do that as humans. Like, we literally get pimped by our animals. By the animals. I want to be an animal.

[Tam Bam]

All right, what's the. What's the pettiest reason you've been annoyed recently?

[AJ Holiday]

I don't know. I don't like people asking me questions.

[Tam Bam]

Really?

[AJ Holiday]

Stop talking to me.

[Tam Bam]

Yes.

[AJ Holiday]

Sometimes I just don't. You know, I. I don't know. Like, I don't be feeling like answering questions sometimes. And then depending on who it is, I do get hella annoyed secretly, though, I just be like, what?

[Tam Bam]

Like.

[AJ Holiday]

This guy I know, he was. He was asking me. And this is via text also. I don't feel like answering no questions via text because it might take, I don't know, a very long text message to answer a question. Like, why are you even asking me questions via text?

[Tam Bam]

Really, I don't mind, because I'll just ignore that.

[AJ Holiday]

I feel obligated to respond, oh, no. If you ain't did nothing to me, I feel like me not responding.

[Tam Bam]

You tell them, how many unopened texts can you see that?

[AJ Holiday]

Does that say 4000?

[Tam Bam]

4400.

[AJ Holiday]

Oh, yeah. That's mostly fashion. Nova, cut it out.

[Tam Bam]

Yeah, but 85. I will leave you right sitting right there.

[AJ Holiday]

Your phone is going to break, girl. You got to get off there.

[Tam Bam]

I just. I definitely need. It's just so much. How can I get. Go through it at this point? Let me tell you the prettiest reason I was annoyed and I had a little attitude because my sock kept on going down. Have you ever had your sock go down in your shoe and no matter how much you pull it up, it keeps life?

[AJ Holiday]

One of my favorite posts on Instagram was like, I look like I'm all right, but deep down inside, my socks are sliding down.

[Tam Bam]

So bad. Or you ever had some leggings that just won't stay up and it keep creating that space?

[AJ Holiday]

Girl, I'LL be all in the grocery store, leg in the air, like throwing. See how you got to kick your leg up and pull your leggings up. I'll be doing that randomly looking for jelly, annoyed.

[Tam Bam]

Like the.

[AJ Holiday]

Anywhere I'm pulling my leggings up, I'll give a who's watching me too.

[Tam Bam]

I'm snatching them up because I cannot.

[AJ Holiday]

Walk with that gap between my leg.

[Tam Bam]

First of all, I don't know when the last time I wore a real pair of pants. Let's go there. I got so many pairs of leggings. I got so many pairs of leggings. Y' all matte collection. I got every color. They got every color legging they got. I got it. I don't even wear real pants anymore.

[AJ Holiday]

And you know, that's kind of messed up. And I was asking my mom because I looked at a picture of her, I'm like, how the was y' all getting inside those jeans with no stretch? The denim had no stretch.

[Tam Bam]

No stretch whatsoever. Y' all was really living. Yeah. Cause it was no training. That was before trans fat.

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[Tam Bam]

All right. A standard you have that you don't fully meet yourself. I be wanting to be on time and then I'll be late. Oh really?

[AJ Holiday]

That feel. I feel like that's all people in the beauty industry. All y' all beauticians be like that. Y' all got all these stipulations the mute.

[Tam Bam]

The. The. I'm not that bad. I'm not bad at as these new hairsty. Dallas. Like, I don't be tripping, but it's hard. It's hard. Like if I'm. I try to be on time, right? I try my damnedest to be on time, especially when people bring me money. But then if you all. If you late it up the whole day and everybody think it's just. It's my fault no matter what I'm. Even if I'm on time, if my client is 15 minutes late and it just makes my day be behind.

[AJ Holiday]

Well, I mean, either way, it is your fault.

[Tam Bam]

Fault.

[AJ Holiday]

It's your fault if you were late. It's your fault if the other client was late.

[Tam Bam]

Yeah.

[AJ Holiday]

So next line.

[Tam Bam]

But they always think it's like Tammy's just late, but it's not because they.

[AJ Holiday]

Calculating in the times you relate for them.

[Tam Bam]

No, I'm just saying, like, sometimes it's just not me, you know, it's just things I can't control.

[AJ Holiday]

So the last time I got my makeup done, you know, because when you. When you book an appointment with these makeup girlies, they'll send you a whole slew of rules so you can't be on your phone. All this different. So the thing said you cannot come 15. I mean, excuse me. Don't show up more than five minutes early. And after 15 minutes, your appointment canceled. I'm like, this is so strict when I tell y' all I was sitting outside in that girl's parking lot because I did not want to miss my makeup appointment. But that is. Isn't that really strict?

[Tam Bam]

That's a. Yeah, it's real.

[AJ Holiday]

Don't come early. But you. A couple minutes late is over for you.

[Tam Bam]

Right, but maybe I need to be like that. So. But I don't mind if you come early, but I guess you was at a house. Don't come to my house. Yeah, don't come to my house early. I feel them on that in a salon. Just sit in one of these seats. I'll be with you. But at the house, you just sit in my living room.

[AJ Holiday]

A standard you have that you. I feel like I answer none of these. A standard you have that you don't fully meet yourself. I don't know. I. I can. I can admit to this, and I think this might just be everybody when you cohabitating. You know, everybody benefits off of a clean space, but everybody's level of cleanliness is just different. Right? It's just subjective. So what I Realized now having, you know, living by myself when I don't put some back.

[Tam Bam]

Like.

[AJ Holiday]

Like it's only me that has to put it back. Right. I'm not. Like, somebody else put some up there and they just taking three, three days to move it. Like, I'm annoyed. Even though I might put some out right now. Living by myself and it's okay, but let somebody else do it. It's a problem.

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[AJ Holiday]

Like, I experienced that at my mama house. Like, my mama acts like she's the cleanest person on the planet, but she be. She got her little shit that you point out and she's like, I don't do that. Yes, you do.

[Tam Bam]

You do.

[AJ Holiday]

But it's just the, the. It's just the fact of somebody else doing it that bothers the out of people.

[Tam Bam]

Yes. So my best friend, like, if you pull more than one, maybe two paper towels, but if you. No, you shouldn't even snatch two. But I done seen her pull three at a time.

[AJ Holiday]

That's her paper towel.

[Tam Bam]

But if I get more than one, it's World War II in this.

[AJ Holiday]

I don't know why humans are like this. Like, yeah, if I up, it's on me. But if you my up, I'm pissed.

[Tam Bam]

Right?

[AJ Holiday]

Like, I'm mad. It's just. It's just I just rather me my own stuff up than you because I'm be triple times more mad at you because I feel you should be careful with other people's.

[Tam Bam]

More careful, right?

[AJ Holiday]

Yes, more careful than I am with my own.

[Tam Bam]

Right. All right, last one. Oh, no, it's not the last one. A little bit more. All right. Something about dating, you know, sounds unreasonable.

[AJ Holiday]

I mean, I just want a. To give me money day one, no ass.

[Tam Bam]

Like.

[AJ Holiday]

And I just want sometimes, like. Okay, I know this is a big ask and this is why I got out my last relationship. Like, I was really asking for some unreasonable shit. Like the nigga to be somebody else. Like, you can't, like, can't be somebody else. Like, all of these things. I'm telling you. Like, I like this, I like that. I like this. Like, you're not going to morph into that thing overnight, right? Yeah. Or a person with those characteristics.

[Tam Bam]

Like, it's like, do you like me? Right?

[AJ Holiday]

Like, I don't think so. Right. Like, you can remain you, but can you take on all these other characteristics, heuristics, please, so I can breathe easy? Yeah, that's unreasonable.

[Tam Bam]

Yeah, that's unreasonable. Yeah. Just you try just asking a to be a totally different person.

[AJ Holiday]

I remember like when we first, like moved in here and I'm like, you coming home like, you we old as like, you smell like weed every day. One day I was like, you know, I like that smell good just like that. That's the easy ass though, right?

[Tam Bam]

But it's better that you said I like that smell good instead of saying you stink. Like chat. GPT has helped me with, like, how I get things from people, and that was one of the things they told me to do. Don't say, what's wrong? Offer what you like. So that was good that you said.

[AJ Holiday]

That, you know, okay, so maybe when another ex was repeatedly. Okay, so this cousin was staying with him at the time, and she had like this nice curly weave, right? So he kept asking me why you don't wear like, curly weave? I wear my hair basic as weave, right? And I was, okay, Send me examples of what you're talking about when I tell you that flooded my Instagram page with a hundred thousand with natural curly hair. And I'm like, that's never going to be me. And so I kept saying, hey, stop. Hey, stop. He was literally doing this on purpose, right to with me. Y' all know what I did? I went to the Explorer page and I typed in fine ass men with bald heads. And I flooded that Instagram for 30 minutes with every fine ass with a ball hitting a beard I could find on Instagram. Because, mind you, this had a little goatee and braids, like with the shave on the side. This what I like right here. This is what I like. This is one of the things I like.

[Tam Bam]

Can you. Yeah. Can you do this Right, because these is tall.

[AJ Holiday]

That part. And I don't need no super tall, but yeah, that would probably be your thing, but yeah. Can you get taller?

[Tam Bam]

Right?

[AJ Holiday]

I don't have no silky curls. Little loose curls you can rub your fingers through. I'm sorry, I don't. It's kinky over here.

[Tam Bam]

I got real.

[AJ Holiday]

All right, Something might not be necessarily 4C, but it's something.

[Tam Bam]

Something about dating, you know, sounds unreasonable. And see, this is probably my problem in relationships because nothing that I want sounds unreasonable to me. Can't you just give me the moon, last of the moon, and pull it down to me? Right? I can't really come up with one for that, but. Okay, here's the last one. One last admission each. Anything you gotta admit something that you would never necessarily admit. I got a story to tell. Yeah.

[AJ Holiday]

I already said how I be using the same piece of tissue to wipe the toilet seat before I got one. Why you think?

[Tam Bam]

All right, I was. I had just started talking to this guy. We have been seeing each other a little bit. I don't know why all my stories got dookie in it, but this one do. Y', all, we went to, like, one of those Asian fusion places. And that. My stomach up so bad. And we went. We was at his house, and we were supposed to just kick it a little bit. Y', all, I blew that man bathroom up so bad. And then the toilet would not flush. I left. I didn't even say nothing. I just left. And I never answered his call again.

[AJ Holiday]

Well, that. Please step to the pulpit. I want to talk to him. No, I'm sorry.

[Tam Bam]

If you're listening, I'm so sorry. I was just so embarrassed. I didn't know what to do, so I left.

[AJ Holiday]

I never embarrassed. And maybe that's my problem, because I would have literally walked out of like, hey, I think I your bathroom up. I. I wouldn't be able to just leave knowing that somebody knew I they up like that. Like, I would know. I'll be trying to fix it. I left.

[Tam Bam]

I got up out of there so fast. I gotta go. I think now. I think as a grown woman at this age now, just be like, hey, do you have a plunger?

[AJ Holiday]

All of a sudden, somebody knock on that boy door. You done call a plumber, right? Call a plumber over there from the toilet.

[Tam Bam]

Like, oh, something. But I was like, maybe like 28. I was. I just got up out of there and he was calling me. I just would not answer because I just couldn't imagine him saying, so you dookie there? My house, and laugh like that. Yo, I couldn't imagine him saying that to me, so. Because that's what I would have said. All right, one last admission.

[AJ Holiday]

I'm. I'm trying to think, like, what do I want to share on here that I haven't already shared? I don't got no more dookie movie. Not movies. Might have been a movie. I don't have no more dookie stories. I'm trying to think about my day to day. Like, what's some shit I'd be doing that I ain't got no business doing? I would like, if the ancestors could see me doing it, they're gonna be.

[Tam Bam]

Like, ew, two of them little eating. Two or three of them little footballs with the ice.

[AJ Holiday]

I do not eat those. Well, if I was in Charlotte, I'd probably still be eating them, but they don't have a place there like that. And I Have been looking up some ingredients, like a recipe to try to do it myself. I can't find anything. Yeah, I don't know. I don't have one.

[Tam Bam]

You ain't got one. Admission knows nothing. Like, damn, why I do that? Or, damn, that was crazy, y'. All.

[AJ Holiday]

I'm very vanilla, you know. You know that. Yeah, it's just regular Degular Smegala over here. I don't got no extra. I never did no threesomes. I never eat no coochie.

[Tam Bam]

Your wig ain't never flew off while on the back of a motorcycle. I remember one time.

[AJ Holiday]

What the.

[Tam Bam]

We said I had made my. I had made my cousin this wig. This is a long time ago. And we was at bike week, and we was on some bikes, and we was, like, riding side by side and then hit the gas, and her wig flew off. But she was fast because she caught.

[AJ Holiday]

That in the wind.

[Tam Bam]

Like.

[AJ Holiday]

That'S a cartoon. I want somebody to do a cartoon version of that.

[Tam Bam]

I swear, she called. She was so fast. She was not letting that wig fly away.

[AJ Holiday]

Bike Week. I only been to bike week, like, one and a half times.

[Tam Bam]

One and a half?

[AJ Holiday]

Yeah. Like, we drove there early today and came right back the same day.

[Tam Bam]

Yeah.

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[AJ Holiday]

Like, I never, like, been to bike week for real.

[Tam Bam]

That's it. You cannot die, baby. Okay, well, AJ ain't got no admission for y' all this time. I had to.

[AJ Holiday]

That was somebody else's. Your wig ain't even fall off.

[Tam Bam]

That was. No, it wasn't mine. Yeah, I guess you're right. I just had one.

[AJ Holiday]

All right, y', all, we look forward to hanging out with y' all in the next couple weeks. We'll be back in February, actually. So this is the last episode. Okay. For this season, and we'll be back.

[Tam Bam]

The week of Valentine's Day with our first episode, and we will be filming. So y' all can go to YouTube and see us, or y' all can just listen to the audio like you usually do. But definitely go check us out. We're gonna be visual, so we'll see y' all in February.

[AJ Holiday]

All right, y', all. So if you enjoyed this episode, y' all tune in every Thursday on the iHeartRadio app or wherever the you get your podcast at. This is your co host, AJ Holiday 2.0 on Instagrams. Kick a tam.

[Tam Bam]

Yeah, it's official. Tam. Bam on Instagram, y'. All. Follow me there. Follow. We talk back Podcast on Instagram. Continue to send us your dumbish stories. We're gonna definitely reason when we get back. I love y' all so much. Y' all remember, speak now and never hold your shame.

[AJ Holiday]

Just just say the thing out loud, right? Deuces We Talk Back Podcast is a production of iHeartRadio. Visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows.

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[AJ Holiday]

We're back for season four to talk to some incredible small business owners.

[Tam Bam]

The big thing about working at tech is that it's ever evolving, ever changing. Everyone's a rookie, that's how fast the industry is changing.

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[Tam Bam]

To be part of that change.

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[AJ Holiday]

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